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>Won't be able to run AC-Quest this week, sadly. Hopefully some Fate/Again will make up for that.

I take a deep breath to steady myself as we walk across the bridge. Somewhere in the city ahead, a man who until recently I considered my best friend is waiting for us.

"Shirou?" Saber looks at me. "Are you alright?"

"Yeah. It's just.... this is really it. We're about to walk into what's likely going to be our first real battle in the Grail War."

"True enough." I hear Archer's voice from somewhere nearby. "Are you ready?"

"As I'll ever be." I respond.

"If you decide you can't handle it, get the hell out." He says. "We might have the advantage of numbers, but we can't afford deadweight. If he knows we're coming then he's probably choosing the battlefield right now."

"How would he know we're coming?" Rin asks.

"If Rider's connection to Sakura is strong enough that she can feel her from across the river, then odds are good the connection runs both ways." Archer answers.

Before long, Sakura leads us to a large indoor mall. The same one, I note, that we've met Ilya in twice now. The door's unlocked, and as I pull it open I can feel a chill in the air. That boundary field's been reestablished here.

I hear Shinji from somewhere up ahead. "Another Master's come? Go ahead and step out into the open. I'll be forced to take... drastic measures otherwise."

[ ] Step out.
[ ] Send (Archer, Saber or Rin) out.
[ ] Ask what he means by 'drastic measures'.
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>>21573105

Saber, Rin.

He thinks that Archer is ours and his ability to appear disappear can catch Shinji off guard and steal/destroy the book.
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[x] Step out

Don't afraid of anything.
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>>21573105
[x] Send Saber and Rin out.
Distract the shit out of him so Archer can steal the book.
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>>21573105
WOO
anyways now that that is out of the way, i think WE should step out, becaus you gys know, full blown hero that shirou is wouldn't let it any other way.
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>>21573241

Right when I go to type out the actions....
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>>21573252
Tie votes is fate's way of saying that it's still paying attention to you, AC-guy.
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I'll untie. Let's be dumbshits. Step out.
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>>21573295
I concur, we are HERO!

[X] Step out
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>>21573252

Saber Rin.

This Shirou isn't that much of an idiot this time.
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>>21573105

[x] Send out Sabeer and Tohsaka

Tactical operation gooooo
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>>21573295
>>21573312
>>21573323
>>21573329

Whelp.
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>>21573163

This was the plan proposed last session right?

Lets go with this.
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>>21573105
>[ ] Step out.

BRING IT YOU SMUG LITTLE DICKMUNCH.
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It seems tactical forethought is prevailing tonight.
>>21573167 changing to
[x]Send Rin and Saber
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>>21573396
>>21573350
ahaha
We're not breaking this deadlock any time soon.
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>>21573416

>>21573414

Speaking too soon brah.
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>>21573105
Send Saber and Rin. Tactical thinking yo.
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>Sorry about the Delay, Dog went apeshit over a squirrel outside, almost destroyed about eight grand in sensitive electronics trying to go out the window.
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>>21573622

Did it get the squirrel?
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>>21573622
Is this the same dog that set fire to a couch?
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>>21573637

Wait what?
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>>21573634

Ran right past the motherfucker on the bird feeder.

I swear to god, the tree rat looked at me and shrugged after he ran by, before continuing to stuff his face with seeds.

>>21573637

No, that dog passed away from old age over the summer.
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its a pity we lack a gun to shoot Shinji in the face with. In any case Plan Kill Shinji is GO!
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>>21573662
>Killing Shinji

I know he's scum, but do you even seigi no mikata?
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>>21573105
[x] Send Saber and Rin out.
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I nod to Rin and Saber, and the two of them step into the open, Saber summoning her armor as she does so.

"Oh-ho!" Shinji says, stepping out onto the third floor balcony. "So you ARE the one then! I figured you were a Master as well, but couldn't be sure. If you tracked me here, I can only assume that means you're the one who destroyed the Blood Fort?"

"The barrier at the school?" Rin asks with a shrug. "If I knew someone as hopeless as you was the architect I wouldn't have bothered to even try."

Shinji's eyes go cold as his face turns to a grimace. "Well then, that's how it's going to be?" He asks, and Rin nods. "Here I was, planning to make this fight on the level and fair. Rider!" He turns to the masked girl on the level above him. "Set the field and prepare the shields."

The girl nods, and I hear Archer's voice in my ear as Shinji begins to walk up the stairs. "He's got hostages. Looks like about two dozen people, mostly employees." Rin and Saber begin to walk up the stairs, and I feel the boundary field beginning to close. "Shit." Archer breaths out. "When it closes completely, he'll know that the three of us are here. We're going to lose those hostages...."

>What do?
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>>21573754
CALADBOLG

CALADBOLGS EVERYWHERE
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>>21573754
"Archer, get to a good place to turn his head into chunky salsa with an arrow, we don't have that much time.

I'll get to the hostages and try to get them out while Saber and Rin tarpit Rider."
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>>21573754

We lose the hostages when the field closes completely?
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>>21573754
Sakura is with us, correct?

Lets have her assist in distracting Rider, while Archer goes after Shinji. We'll try to get the hostages to safety.
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>>21573754

Go up the service corridors to level the hostages are on with Sakura.

Send Archer to find a good spot to snipe at Shinji, so he's in a good place to shoot him and/or the book.

Pray we're fast enough.
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>>21573832

I should probably clarify: The bloodfort, among other things, acts as a form of territory creation.

As soon as the field shuts completely, Rider will know how many people are there, as well as their locations.

What Archer's implying is that when she notices two more magi and a Servant, Shinji will probably flip out and start killing hostages.
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>>21573894
how much time before the field shuts? It's sounding like we really only have time to set up an ambush, try and blitz Shinji
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>>21573894

Ohh kay. Thats clears things up.

Is Rin engaging Shinji?
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>>21573912

Blitz and have Archer snipe or steal that book
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>>21573645
AC-Guy had his couch lit on fire by a dog relatively early in AC-Quest.
The man is jinxed. Whenever he tries to run, crazy shit happens.
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Alright, consensus seems to be to send Archer to a good sniping spot and to have Shirou go after the Hostages.

What do you want to do with Sakura?

[ ] Bring her with.
[ ] Tell her to hide.
[ ] Send her to distract Shinji/Rider.

>>21573912

You have a couple of minutes, tops. No time for anything fancy, but you could do something like try and run up the back stairs undetected.

>>21573948

Rin and Saber are currently walking up the stairs to the food-court where Rider and Shinji are. They haven't engaged YET, but they're headed that way.
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>>21573968
If Archer is the fastest, then I'll support this plan.
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>>21573968
This.

Its basically Rider + however fast Shinji can run vs 2 Master-Servant pairs. We should be able to end this fast if we don't waste the element of surprise.
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>>21573998
>[ ] Send her to distract Shinji/Rider.

Hopefully either Shinji or Rider will be distracted by a bout of "MUH EMOTIONS!"
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>>21574006
>>21573968
Posting in support of this. Might as well also have Sakura try to distract Rider since people never follow the protagonist's orders when you tell them to hide.
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>>21574003
Well, his Agility is C rank, so...
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>>21573998
>[ ] Send her to distract Shinji/Rider.
And hope against hope that it doesn't backfire.
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>>21573998
[x] Send her to distract Shinji/Rider

And go from rescuing hostages to blitzing Shinji, Archer stealing the book, if possible.
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>>21574044
Oh god, Archer is going to purposely snipe Shinji in the face. Then Sakura is going to go full angry man jew and om nom nom everything in the room. This is why we can't have nice things.
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>>21574071

And then she will only talk in RAP when in Dark Sakura mode.

>>21573948
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>>21574082
>Dark Sakura freestylin' all over everybody
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>>21573998
This day started out terrible, but continually got more awesome (and /tg/ related) as it kept going. This thread confirms it.

[X] Send her to distract Shinji/Rider.

Shinji may become verbally abusive, but he won't kill her when she's the reason Rider exists. Also, Rider will do everything in her power to protect Sakura.

Send out Sakura, but have he prep a lie like "Sempai sent me out for Groceries". Shinji knows she's with us, we might as well cover for ourselves.
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>>21573998
[x] Send her to distract Shinji/Rider.
And a clarification for Archer to snipe THE BOOK or whatever limb is holding it.
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I turn to Sakura. "If it comes to it, do you think you can distract Shinji?"

"Sempai? What do you-"

"I mean, if the situation goes south and it looks like he might start killing his hostages...."

Sakura visibly quakes slightly, but then she takes a deep breath. "I- I'll try." She says after only a moment's hesitation.

I nod. "All I can ask for. Archer?"

"Yes?"

"Get to somewhere with a clear shot at Shinji. Take out the book if you can, but whatever happens go for non-lethal if it's an option."

"You're sure?" He asks.

"He's rapidly losing my respect and sympathy, but we need to at least give him the option to surrender." I respond. "We owe Sakura that much." I end with a whisper as I begin to move towards the back stairs. If Rin's got his attention, then I might be able to sneak past and do something about the hostages....

[DC13 Stealth check]
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>>21574323
Let's do this thing.
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>>21574323

SNAAAAKE
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>>21574323
WE ARE THE STEALTHIEST!
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>>21574343
NO WE'RE NOOOOT
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>>21574323

Shirou, this is a solo sneaking mission!
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>>21574341
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W61uuS35gX8
>>21574365
Weapons will be On-Site Projection.
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>>21574112
>>21574082
Damn you all. I now can't help but imagine Sakura cooking to Nujabes

[http://www.endlessvideo.com/watch?v=WrO9PTpuSSs&start=0m0s&end=2m51s]
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>>21574378
>Not linking to Lady Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5powxvY5YfE
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Hmm just imagine the snark we will get if we can manage to get rider back under sakuras control
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>>21574422
We can get Rider and Archer snarking back and forth. It'll be magnificent, and might end in sex.
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>>21574430
>Rider/Archer snarksex
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>>21574422

I just want to see Rider squirming when Sakura tries to teach her about rap.
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>>21574331
>>21574341
>>21574343

The key to stealth has nothing to do with how quiet you are, or how fast or gracefully you move.

You don't even have to hide, you just have to evade notice. I drop the coat off by the door, since the black would stand out too much. I move at a brisk walk under the stairs and around the back, placing as much weight as I can into my arms on the rails to muffle my footsteps.

I hear a sharp clang nearby, as Rider and Saber engage each other on the balcony below the Food Court. I look over and see that Rin's trapped a level down, cut off from the hostages by the fighting. She glances my way only once, clearly contemplating another approach but decides to instead try and send a couple of blasts Shinji's way when she sees me.

Shinji for his part pull out a weird paddle from his pocket. Apparently it's some sort of ward, because he manages to nullify Rin's blasts with a few swipes as they approach. They begin their banter as Rider and Saber continue their duel. Rider's superior speed and agility are definitely letting her keep her own, since Saber has less room to maneuver. Shinji might not be winning, but he isn't losing. I can feel the barrier beginning to close as I reach the level Shinji's on. I see Archer looking for his shot....

[ ] Wait for Archer.
[ ] Go for the hostages.
[ ] He's distracted. Punch him in the face.
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>>21574378

>That pic.

I am laughing so fucking hard right now.

Did you make that?
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>>21574451
>Implying they wouldn't team up to dominate the Japanese Hip Hop scene, with Rider as DJ and Sakura as MC
Step up your game, sempai.
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>>21574485
PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE!

PUNCH
HIM
IN
THE
FACE!
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>>21574485

[x] Go for the hostages

When he finds out, he will THEN be very distracted and archer will have a good shot.
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>>21574485
>Hostages

We'll punch him later.
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>>21574485
>[ ] He's distracted. Punch him in the face.
SHINJIIIIIII! LET'S SEE YOU GRIT THOSE TEETH!
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>>21574485
[x] Go for the hostages.
We hero of justice now!
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[X ] Go for the hostages

Archer has Shinji covered get the hostages
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>>21574485
Punch him.
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>>21574485
[X] Go for the hostages.

As much as I want to punch him in the face, with Berserker's sword, the hostages are more important. Archer can deal with Shinji.
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>>21574485

IN THE FAAAACE!
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>>21574485
Hostage saving time!
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>>21574485
>[ ] He's distracted. Punch him in the face.

SNEAK ATTACK +2D6
FINISH HIM
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>>21574485
>[ ] He's distracted. Punch him in the face.

We need to save the hostages.
Thankfully, beating him into unconsciousness will accomplish that goal nicely.
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>>21574503
I wish.

Another treasure I discovered on my various wanderings of the 'nets.

>>21574485
[X]Hostages

As much as punching Shinji in the face is satisfying as fuck, freeing people is still our Heroic M.O.

Shinji is distracted. He's in a statemate as of now. Take away the hostages, then let Archer do his job. Shinji will have less resources, and - once Rider is freed of him, we can just saunter out.
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>>21574584
>SNEAK ATTACK
>punching him full in the face
""I will have to use stealth instead" said L and jumped in the broken window screaming."
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>>21574485
[x] Go for the hostages.
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[ ] Punch Shinji.

Guys, we need to end this before he activates the Bloodfort. If he does that, the hostages are going to pass out, and he can just hold the battle of attrition until we run out of energy.

In this situation, Shinji wins a draw. If we don't make a move against him, Archer's gonna shoot him in the face.

WHILE SAKURA WATCHES.
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>>21574485
[X] Go for the hostages.

Although I do badly want to punch him in the face again.
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>>21574645
Also we can yell at him to grit those teeth, which we all know results in character development. Worked on Forehead Boy, after all.
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>>21574645
Is the Blood Fort Active yet? If it is, free the hostages. Otherwise, change my vote to [X]PUNCH. An unconscious Shinji can't do shit and nor can an unfinished Blood.
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>>21574485
>Not solving the problem with FALCON PUUUUUUUUUNCH

Do you even hero?
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>>21574112
this is my fetish
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>>21574672
It is not currently active, no.
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>>21574672
Well, he's charging it, but it's not active YET, or he'd know we're here.
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>>21574645

>Told Captain Murder-boner to get ready to shoot him.

Yeaah.... Changing my vote to punching Shinji.

Besides, even if it doesn't go EXACTLY right, we get to punch Shinji in the Face.

>>21574672

I think his point was that the Bloodfort trying to activate at all meant trying to save the hostages directly is pointless.
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>>21574645
Good point. Also going to go ahead and change my vote to punching Shinji in the face then.
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>>21574645
Also voting for this, need to keep with our save everyone thing.
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>>21574409
>Not World's End Rhapsody or Aruarian Dance

Step it up, sempai.
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I examine the situation objectively. The most important thing is to neutralize Shinji as quickly as possible. Archer could do it, but he might not be able to get a non-lethal shot off.

I begin to run towards Shinji. He slowly turns my way and his arrogant grin turns confused. In the back of my mind, as I pour more power into my limbs, I wonder if what I really wanted wasn't just an excuse to hit Shinji in the face.

I conclude that since the result's the same, maybe the intent doesn't really matter. Shinji pulls out what looks like a switchblade-knife while I twist to maximize the effectiveness of my punch.

[DC10 Fuck Shinji check]
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>>21574739
All this top of gangsta Sakura just makes me wonder how she discovered rap in such a scary-ass household as the Matou's.... then I consider that Zouken tends to wear traditional garments, and seems to have respecty for older tradions.


Do you suppose Zouken was a fan of Enka?

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1rURoB7ZNE]
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>>21574826
GRIT THOSE TEETH!
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>>21574826
Fuck Shinji!

(Nat one, here we go!)
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>>21574826
IT'S FISTING TIME!
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>>21574826
BRINGING A KNIFE TO A FIST FIGHT? HOW AMATEUR.
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>>21574826
IT'S CLOBERRING TIME
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>>21574858
Way to FAIL, tripfag-self
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>>21574826

Shirou, don't forget the basics of CQC.
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>>21574826
>pulls a knife
Punk BITCH!
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>>21574873
You said it, not me.
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>>21574873
It's dice+XdY, tripfriend.
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>>21574877
So in other words, don't do what you just did? Boss? Boss?! BOOOOOOOOOOOOSS!
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>>21574847
>>21574848
>>21574865
2/3rd made contact, so I'm good
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>Fuck Shinji check
>Will save vs. Loli

This quest has the best checks.
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>>21574847
>>21574848
>>21574865

With a thought, I reinforce my shirt, and Shinji's knife goes sliding across it without cutting. Meanwhile, with the extra momentum my physical reinforcement caused, He goes flying several feet away before hitting the ground in a tumble.

For a split second, I worry that I might've broken his neck, but he slowly starts to stand up, and then scramble towards the book he dropped. I calmly pluck it off the floor and toss it in the air, listening to the sound of Archer shredding it while never taking my eyes off Shinji.

"You just lost your Servant, you're out gunned and outnumbered. Surrender."

"You dare? RIDER!" He yells, and the girl appears on my left, jumping up from below. "Kill him!"

The girl nods, and then hesitates as she steps forward. "It seems I have different orders." She says after a moments pause, before stepping back.

"What?" Shinji breaths, before slowly walking over to the rail. He sees Sakura down below. "So that's how it is then? After everything we've done for you you're going to-" He visibly shakes in rage for a few moments, before turning away. "Fine. I'll call the supervisor and withdraw." He says, pulling out his phone and having a brief conversation I don't quite hear. He then walks down the stairs as the boundary field collapses, pausing as he comes next to Sakura. He turns to her and calls her a traitor, and then pauses once more as he gets to the door. He says something at her and makes a gesture.
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>>21575142

Sakura promptly begins to vomit as she collapses onto her side, and Shinji sprints off into the night.

I rush down the stairs, and reach Sakura only moments after Rin and Saber. Saber starts to pick her up and hold her over a trash-can while Rin brushes the hair out of her face and closes her eyes. "Some kind of poison." She says to me as I get near.

"Can you help her?" I ask, and I feel like I've been hit in the stomach when she shakes her head.

"Kirei might be able to do something." She says, looking at me. "He specializes in healing magic."

Rider steps forward and nods. "I will take her to the church then." She then looks at us. "Unless you wish to settle our quarrel?"

"Go." I tell her. "I don't know if we're friends yet, but Sakura comes first right now if you can get her there."

Rider nods. "Of course. She's my Master." With that she moves with incredible speed out into the night.

[ ] Go to the Church.
[ ] Attempt to follow Shinji.
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>>21575148
>[ ] Go to the Church.
We owe Shinji an ass whupping, but I don't trust Kirei.
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>>21575148
[X] Go to the Church.

We stay with Sakura.

But ask Archer to maintain surveillance of Shinji, he's up to something.
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>>21575148
That Shinji bitch needs a harsher beating... but one of the reasons we went after Rider was because we thought Lancer might show up around her. This would obviously be a fine time for him to attack.

>Go to the church, just in case.
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Kill shinji before he gets to the Church
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>>21575148
>[X] Attempt to follow Shinji.

Someone needs to be taught a lesson about what is right and what is wrong. Besides, we do not want him getting another servant.
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>>21575163
Oh yeah, Archer. Good plan. I add this to my vote for going to the church.
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>>21575148
[x] Go to the Church.
Send Archer ahead, just in case.
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>>21575148
>[x] Go to the Church.
Gotta make sure Kirei doesn't pull some bullshit. Also supporting sending Archer after Shinji.
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>>21575163
This. Have Archer bring Shinji to us if he does anything stupid.

We're going to beat some sense into that kid even if it kills him. hopefully it kills him.
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>>21575142
>>21575148
I said PUNCH HIM UNCONSCIOUS. He can't hurt people if he can't think!
[X]Go to Church. He said something to Sakura and she puked? Sounds like post-hypnotic chicanery.

I was gonna say Archer AND Rin go track Shinji (I somehow suspect Archer might not have any qualms killing a potential Master. I don't want Shinji dead.)
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>>21575148
>[ ] Go to the Church.
Rider is in arm's reach. Gotta stay on target.

I'll also throw in a vote for Archer following Shinji (provided the fucker doesn't walk directly to the church like a good little loser). He's probably up to something.
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>>21575148
Attempt to Follow Shinji, he can tell us whqat the poison was which will allow us to treat it more easily.
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>>21575233
Probably gonna go whine to Zouken or something.
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>>21575228
I personally have no objections to Shinji turning into a red smear on some wall. But that might just be me.
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>>21575148
Also going with [X] Go to the Church.
But with a side of "Archer go stalk Shinji"
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>>21575247
>go whine to Zouken
And get bitchslapped by Japanese Rapeworm Clint Eastwood for being such a little shit? That would be pretty funny to see.
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Oh shit I recognise this pattern

this is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.
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>>21575273
I'm not the only one thinking it, then?

He's getting Gilgamesh.
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>>21575295
He's gotta go to Kirei first to get Gil.

We're going to Kirei's.

If we see him again, we beat him until he stops twitching.
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>>21575295
Probably. But hey! Maybe Zouken summoned True Assassin and will give Shinji one last chance to prove himself.
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>>21575295
I'm thinking that "rescuing" sakura is the first step into the whole "worm that eats her magic and makes her get taken over by angry manjuice" plotline

which you know, leads to lots and lots of suffering

Lets try to avoid losing an arm, gents, that memory loss part was super fucking sad
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>>21575368
On the plus side though Sakura needs to be driven to absolute despair for that to happen and so far we've not fucked up too bad in regards to upsetting her.
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>>21575368
She needs to be around Zouken for that. Also we need to be boning her/romancing her instead of nobody. And spending a lot more time with Rin.
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I turn to Rin. "I'm following them."

"What? Why not go after Shinji?"

"While I think I might have to kill him the next time we meet, Sakura surviving is more important. If Rider gets attacked with the way things are...."

Rin looks thoughtful. "Good point. I'll be along as soon as I deal with things here."

"You're staying?"

"I need to deal with the hostages. It's better for everyone if they don't remember this." She says. "I can send Archer after him after I catch up to you, but before then-"

"-if you're attacked...." I finish the thought for her, and nod. As I get to the door....

"Shirou? Take care of her until I get there."

"Of course." I respond, running out into the night. Saber and I move quickly, heading south. Rider notes our escort, and we have no trouble until we get within sight of the church.

Rider goes on into the building, while I slow down and catch my breath as we walk up the path. Saber's dismissed her armor, and she turns to me. "Do you think we made it in time?"

"I hope." I respond, when I hear a voice behind us.

"Oh-ho! I thought I recognized you at the mall, but I wasn't sure." turning around, I see the blonde man that had Sakura and Saber both running scared. "Tell me Saber, what has you moving in such a hurry at this time of night?"

Saber's armor is back, and she grips her invisible sword at the sight of the man. "Archer. Why are you here?"
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>>21575426

"If I answer your question, will you answer mine?" He asks with a smile. "I'm here to see if you've put any more thought into that offer I made at the end of the last war. I'm in a good position to make it seem more attractive if you're hesitant."

Saber's eyes narrow. "My answer is still no. And as for your earlier question, there was a girl injured by the activities. We brought her to the supervisor for proper care."

The man nods. "So like you to look out for the little people. you still refuse me?" He asks with a smile. "Even if I said I could hand you the grail?" Saber's eyes go wide. "Circumstance means I no longer have a need for it. If you were willing to work with me we could get you your wish, and I could get what I desire of you at the same time." Saber stares, shocked. "Need time to think it trough? Very well. I can grant you that much." He then turns to me. "Make sure that she sees no harm, Master of Saber. I'll be quite... cross if I can't get my answer from her."

With that, he turns and walks away into the night.

Saber and I head inside and I see Rider sitting on a bench, waiting.

[ ] Ask Rider for Sakura's status.
[ ] Ask Saber what 'Archer's' offer was.
[ ] Wait.
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>>21575416
>Also we need to be boning her/romancing her instead of nobody.

Um....can we NOT bang the only chick infested with worms? There are like 3 other fine ladies we could be going after, none of whom are infested with bugs.
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>>21575453
[X] Ask Rider for Sakura's status.

We'll talk to Saber in private about a lot of things when we get home. But right now Rider could be listening and we have to make sure Sakura isn't going to kick the bucket.
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>>21575453
>[ ] Ask Rider for Sakura's status.
Not that i care about wormslut, but its a fine excuse to talk to Rider.
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>>21575453
>Sakura first

But we won't forget that second option!
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>>21575453
[x] Ask Rider for Sakura's status.
We can give Saber time to process Gil's offer. Though admittedly it would be real nice to have him on our side.
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>>21575453
>[x] Ask Rider for Sakura's status.
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>>21575456

You do know that the magic rape worms in her cannot and will not affect us, right?

I mean, the only things they'll do is make it so that we have to sex her up every so often to give her a 'prana transfer', and makes it so she can't get pregnant.

They might hurt her, but they can't hurt us.
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>>21575416
No no no, you get the harem ending by NOT choosing any one girl as long as the plot lasts, and then marrying them all afterwards by word of god. Worked pretty damn well for that Masaki kid after all.
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>>21575471
Soon we'll have all the servants on our side! Gotta catch 'em all!
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>>21575456
4. 5 if you count Illya, but that's a long-term investment kind of thing.
Or it should be.
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>>21575334
>implying Zouken would be so stupid as to waste a valuable pawn on a shit like Shinji.

What's really obnoxious about Shinji isn't that he's morally disgusting (though he is that plenty). It's also that he's fucking stupid tactically and has nothing to back up his ego.


Hell, Roa from Tsukihime was a cannibal rapist torturer who did pic related ("I finally grasp what it was this bastard was sitting on while he gave his long speech."). But even he had chops to back it up (despuite being going bugfuck crazy due to reincarnation shenanigans
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>>21575456
You do know all the worms do is make her constantly horny right? The worms are conected to her nerves and as such don't affect us.
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>>21575476
>shirou_has_worms.jpg

[X] Ask Rider for Saturn's status.
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>>21575481
>he married Ryoko AND her mom
How does he even walk
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>>21575509
>>21575476
...your point?

Its still nasty.
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>>21575514
*Sakura's
Fucking phone autocorrect.
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>>21575482

How do you intend to get Lancer? All he wants to do is fight.

Maybe if we have Rin seduce him...
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>>21575470
[X]Talk to Saber about this new Archer's offer.

Great, we have ANOTHER Servant of the Archer class and he's a dick offering our Servatn back-door deals. Fun times, like a root canal.
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>>21575526
We should start going down the Sakura route just to spite you.

>Every day until you like it.
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>>21575515
Better than Seina. Poor guy didn't have what it takes to keep his harem in line...
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>>21575538
Get Ilya to have Berserker befriend the shit out of him of course.
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>>21575576
Illya DOES have something weird going on with berserker and lancer... hmm

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOfbTKnG1qw]
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>>21575576
Wow, this is way better than my idea. Let's do it.
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I sit next to Rider. "How's Sakura?"

"The Priest said that he'd do what he could, but he couldn't even guess what he could do before he had a chance to examine her." She hesitates. "Our connection gives me something though. She's weak, and in a lot of pain. I think the priest put her to sleep to keep the worst of it from bothering her, but...." She's quiet for a moment. "She's not fading at least. She's not very strong, but she's there. Now that you're here, I'll let my physical form go."

"Why?"

"Less of a strain. If I need to protect her from something, I can come back, but...."

I nod, and give her shoulder a light squeeze. "I'll keep watch for now, and Rin's on her way as well." Rider nods, and then fades away.

It's about ten minutes later when Kirei comes out of the back. "She's alive." He says, seeing ym concerned face. "I'm not sure she'll stay like that forever, but she'll live for now."

"What do you mean?" I ask, before Saber steps between us.

"Shirou, this man was a Master in the last war. He was the one Kiritsugu feared the most."

"Was I now?" He says with a faint smile. "I'll take that as a compliment."

"You were in the last war?" I ask.
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>>21575748

"Not by choice. The church decided that Tosaka Tokiomi was the least terrible choice for winning. I was selected for that purpose alone, and never had any interest in the Grail myself." He answers. "Before you accuse me of keeping secrets, I didn't bring it up simply because it wasn't relevant. I wasn't chosen as a Master here, and I was instead entrusted with the duty of supervision."

".... Alright." I say. "I'll trust you for now. Now, Sakura?"

Rin enters, and he nods. "If you're both here I might as well explain it to both of you. The 'poison' Rider described to me isn't a poison at all. Sakura has a strange type of Parasite living in her nervous system. Judging by how ingrained it is, I would say it's been there growing for almost a decade now."

"... Can we do anything about it?" I ask.

"At the moment? I might be able to destroy most of it, and clear some of the damage. However, I couldn't remove all of it. I might be that destroying it in part would be more damaging in the long run. In adition some part of it are too close to her heart to operate on safely, and from the way it affects her Mana flow, it's bound to her as a type of familiar. Between it's entwined nature and the magical contract.... I don't believe it can be safely removed unless we can break one and find a way to keep her alive through the fatal wounding needed to remove it."

[ ] Ask him for more detail.
[ ] Talk to Rin, she's taking it hard.
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>>21575755
[X] Ask him for more detail.

We'll have a nice hugging and comforting talky session with everyone when we get back. Right now we have priorities, those priorities being Sakura not dying.
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>>21575755
>[ ] Talk to Rin, she's taking it hard.
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>>21575755
>More detail

We can ask Rin about her reaction later too!
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>>21575755
>keep her alive through the fatal wounding
Anybody have any ideas for how we can give Avalon to Sakura?
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>>21575755
[X] Details.

We are sequence breaking like a boss.
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>>21575755
[x] Explain further.
>>21575780
Well, it's only temporary, right? Give her a Traced dupe.
Of course, we need to get at the original first.
... and to know that it even EXISTS.
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>>21575755
[X] Additional information

The more we know, the more we can use this knowledge to overcome what stands in our way.

>>21575780
I like this idea. My plan was to abuse meta-knowledge a little, buddy up with Caster and get her sympathies on board with Sakura. (Caster know what it's like to be used and discarded by glory-seeking men, and Shinji has more than a few echoes of the man who fucker her over in life).

We magic time now!
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>>21575755
>[x] Ask him for more detail.

>>21575780
Perhaps if we were to sword her and then sheathe that sword...

But seriously, Shirou removed Avalon and gave it back to Saber in Fate. So maybe if we were to ask Saber about it or maybe Kiritsugu had some notes around or something. Problem is that no one knows that Shirou has Avalon at the moment.
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"What else can you tell me?"

"The surgery would be rather risky without either of those available to us." He responds. "Having either some form of contract breaker or powerful healing magic would significantly reduce the risk for complete removal. Without either, I would rather optimistically give her slightly less than 10% chance of survival."

I glance over at Rin, who seems to have bitten a finger in an effort not to cry. "Can you think of anything else that might help?"

"Hmmm.... If I had access to more Mana that would help, but that almost goes without saying. Some herbs and substances would help as well. Perhaps if one of you spoke with her? People can do better in survival situations if they feel like they have a more compelling reason to live."

"That's all you can do for her?" I ask, feeling the weight of despair in my stomach.

"From the perspective of a healer? Yes." He answers. "However, I'm also a priest. I can provide some measure of comfort there as well, to her and you. Should the worst happen, I can also administer her last rites." He places a hand on my shoulder. "For now, I'm forcing her to sleep. Whatever triggers her health to worsen seems to require her to be awake. So at the least, she won't get worse. It's only a delaying tactic, but...."

"How long does she have?"

"With no treatment? I might be able to keep her for a week if I can keep her subdued. If I can remove it partially, then I can extend that to at least a month."
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>>21576018

"If you can heal it completely?"

He shrugs. "How long does anyone last? She might develop a medical condition that will put her in a grave a year from now, or step out in front of a bus in a weeks time. I won't speculate on such matters, but she won't be in any immediate danger at least." He looks thoughtful. "Barring some terrible accident, her body is in good enough shape currently to last several years at least, assuming she does nothing to care for it."

"Anything else?"

"I would speculate on some at least mild psychological damage, given that apparently this was done to her by someone she trusted. She's also not a pure virgin." I hear Rin gasp very lightly behind me. "Judging by certain factors in her physiology, I would say that at least one time it was forced upon her."

"... Sakura was raped?" I respond, disbelieving.

"Either that or she enjoys it exceptionally rough." He responds bluntly. "Though I would consider that highly unlikely given the circumstances. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go keep an eye on my patient." He gives a small bow and retreats from the chapel.

[ ] Talk to Rin.
[ ] Talk to Saber.
[ ] Talk to Rider.
[ ] (Other).
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>>21576024
>Rin

Or just leap to the conclusion that it's Shinji and go beat his ass.
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>>21576024
[x] Talk to Saber.
[x] Hug Rin
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>>21576024
[X] Talk to Rider.

We need details, she might have some. I think Shirou is very very mad at this point, extremely mad.
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>>21576024
>[x] Talk to Rider.
What was going on in that madhouse!?
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>>21576024
>[ ] Talk to Rider.
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>>21576024
>[ ] Talk to Rider.

Man, i wonder who it was that did that to Sakura? It would sure suck for the culprit if we ever found out, because we would probably run off with Archer and get our Vengeanceboner off.
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>>21576024
Talk to Rider. Harden your heart we need all information before we can act. How much did we miss because of willing obliviousness to her situation all these years?
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>"Either that or she enjoys it exceptionally rough"

Oh Kirei.

[X] Talk to Rider. Dafuq's going on here?
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>>21576110
Man, it'd be a crying shame if someone set the Matou mansion on fire, Excaliblasted the ashes and pissed on whatever was left.
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>>21576144
"Boy, Mister Matou, dat sure is a nice mansion ya got dere. it'd be a cryin' shame if yer little shit of a grandson was to do sometin' ta piss off somebody what decides to burn da whole place down, wit' all o' yous inside."
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I slowly sit down. "Rider. Are you there?"

"Yes." She responds, appearing next to me. "What is it?"

"Do you...." I struggle trying to find the words. "Do you know anything about....?"

"Sakura's treatment?" She asks. I nod. "Some. I know that Shinji resented her. Or she represented something to be resented in his eyes." She answers calmly. "I did what I could to mitigate the damage, with the yelling and occasional bouts of rage. He's rather easily distracted sometimes."

"Did... did he?"

"Rape her? Not that I'm aware of. Then again, I've been in her life for less than a week." She responds, looking over at me. "He's not really evil, I don't think. He may have treated Sakura roughly, but it seemed to me like he was receiving it as bad or worse elsewhere."

"And that excuses it?" I ask, a bit of anger creeping into my voice. I force the emotions back down.

"No. While I can't fault Shinji for his mood, I can fault his choice in a target. Sakura did almost nothing at home that wasn't trying to please him or her grandfather." She looks away. "In truth, she reminds me of myself and my sisters. Hated by many despite never taking action against them. Perhaps that's why she called me instead of my opposite, since I would understand her pain better than him." She suddenly stops, slightly shocked at herself before turning back to me. "In any case, if you want to help her I would suggest finding a way to help with her cure now."

"But what about-"
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>>21576225

"Her scars will matter little if the current wound kills her." She responds bluntly. "The priest's suggestion to talk to her might also be prudent. She thinks highly of Rin, and she rarely smiles when she isn't speaking of you." With that she chooses to fade away, relieving some of the strain on Sakura.

[ ] Talk to Rin.
[ ] Talk to Saber.
[ ] Talk about a cure.
[ ] Talk about the war.
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>>21576232
Talk about the war, what is her end goal. We need to know she isn't going to stab us in the back once that knowledge is secure then we can devote our full efforts to fixing Sakura.
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>>21576232
[X] Talk about the war.

Okay, speaking metawise there are two ways I can think of to save Sakura, either getting Caster on our side or stuffing Avalon into Sakura.
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>>21576232
[x] Talk to Saber.
I seriously doubt Rin would know of anything that could help and not speak up immediately.
Also, [x] Hug Rin
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>>21576284
I agree on the Hug Rin, no matter what choice we make we should give her a hug.
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>>21576232
>[ ] Talk about the war.

Also, yes, hugs for Rin. Just because we don't think she has any game-changing input at this point doesn't mean she shouldn't get hugs.
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>>21576269
We could also just copy RUURU BUREAKA (if we ever encounter it) and use it ourselves. That's how Shirou severed her connection to Angry Manjew in HF after all.
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I move to sit next to Rin, and slowly put an arm around her. She leans into me, but turned away enough that I can't quite see her face.

"We need to figure out what we do next." I say after a moment.

"What do you mean?" Saber asks, sitting on Rin's other side.

"I mean what do we do right here in the immediate future? I'd personally love to go and beat some answers our of Shinji, but doing that wouldn't help Sakura or our position in the war."

Saber looks at her feet for a minute, and then nods. "If we intend to help Sakura, it means fighting the war. I know Caster said something about having a means to break bonds, so perhaps talking to her would help." She then looks at me. "Though I'm not sure I'd want to owe one such as her a favor."

Rin speaks up after a few moments hesitation. "If we can help her somehow, I think we should. If nothing else a wish with the grail would heal her."
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>>21576398

".... A steep price, but I'd be willing to pay it." I respond. "But could we get six different servants killed in less than a week?"

"I don't know." Rin responds weakly. I've never seen her so... helpless. "We know where Caster and Berserker are at least. Rider too, if it comes to it."

"Lancer and Assassin are still off our Radar though." I respond with a sigh. "I don't really know what to do." I finally admit. "I didn't exactly have high hopes of winning this war BEFORE we got a time limit."

Saber hesitates before speaking up. "My sheath has potent healing powers, but I know not what happened to it."

I nod. "That's something, at least." I lean back. "... how the hell am I supposed to go back to school tomorrow?"

[ ] Ask Saber about the Sheath.
[ ] Try to comfort Rin.
[ ] Go talk to Caster.
[ ] See if I can talk to Sakura.
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>>21576405
[x] Ask Saber about the Sheath.
Maybe Rin knows a tracking spell or something.
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>>21576405
>[ ] Try to comfort Rin.
A would-be hero who ignores the human side of things is no hero, but a well-meaning sociopath.
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>>21576405
Hm. Let's see.

Comforting Rin... we just did that. Although theoretically we could include it as part of any action. I dunno. Alone, it's useless

Talking to Sakura doesn't seem like it'd be too helpful? I'd say one of the solution based options. Probably suggesting Caster. Information on the sheath might be nice, though, but for now...

[X] Go talk to Caster.
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>>21576405
Try to comfort Rin, Sakura is still unconcious for the moment so we can leave her be.
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>>21576405
>[ ] Go talk to Caster.

We might be able to pull double duty with this by furthering our goal of getting Caster to abandon the war in favor of a romantic wedding in Hawaii.
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>>21576405

[x] Try to comfort Rin.
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IC choice would be to talk with caster.

After we comfort rin abit
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[X] Try to comfort Rin.

This shouldn't take up too much time, some more hugs, reassuring words, get Saber in on the hug action as well.

We can visit Caster afterwards.
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>>21576405
>[ ] Try to comfort Rin.

SABER!
Rin is clearly in need of further hugs.
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I give Rin a little squeeze. She responds with a slight sniffle. After a few moments of holding her, she finally talks. "I feel terrible. I don't know whether or I'm more worried about Sakura or more angry at myself for letting it happen."

"Hey." I say pulling her closer and making her look at me. "Whatever did and didn't happen to her, it isn't your fault."

Rin looks away. "I should've done something. I knew she wasn't exactly happy, but she keeps to herself so much I never imagined...."

Something hits me. This is a bit more than how a concerned friend would act. ".... There's something you aren't telling me."

For a long minute, Rin doesn't respond. Then she says it in a voice so quiet I can barely hear her. "She's my sister."

My heart skips a beat. "What?"

"She's my sister." She says more loudly, sitting up. "When I was little, not long before the last Grail war began, my father chose me as his successor. Normally a magic crest is passed onto one member of the family, and the rest are kept in the dark. But Sakura and I were both powerful enough Magically that we would both eventually discover our talents on our own." She brushes my arm off and stands up, walking a few paces away to the end of the row and she leans against the pew slightly. "So for reasons he never bothered to explain, he sent my sister to be raised by the Matou house since their bloodline was fading. I was told to stop thinking of her as my sister, and move on."
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>>21576545

Saber and I both stand up, and walk over to her more. "So hat was it then?"

".... We were close, before we were separated." Rin says after a moment. "I tried to keep an eye on her afterwards, but I didn't know how close I could get before the Matous would think my Father plotted to steal their crest for our family. I figured the best thing would be to keep a careful distance and try and make sure she was doing alright. I couldn't be her sister, but I thought I could be a friend. A good Sempai." I see the tears start to form in the corners of her eyes. "But I think it's obvious how badly I screwed that up. That's my curse. I always manage to overlook the most important detail. She never smiled. If she was really happy and healthy, why did she never smile?"

I'm not sure if she's asking me or not, but she seems almost desperate for an answer.

I wish I had one for her. That I could somehow make the pain stop, make everything better. But I suppose that there's a perfect world and there's the one we live in.

I reach out and pull her into a hug, and she cries into my shoulder for almost an hour before she calms down.

Archer enters the room shortly afterwards. "How is she?" After I explain the situation, he sighs deeply and leans against the wall. "Damn. All of that trouble and it still looks like we'll lose her." He looks at me. "If you think Caster might help or something, go. I can keep an eye on things here."
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>>21576547

[ ] Go to Caster.
[ ] Talk to Sakura.
[ ] Talk to Archer.
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>>21576549
>[ ] Go to Caster.
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>>21576547
Alright, but keep an eye on Rin she's pretty shaken right now.
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>>21576549
[X] Go to Caster.

Though make sure to leave Archer with a brofist and a manly nod. Tell him that even though we are somewhat antagonistic towards each other we trust him.

Pick up cigarettes on the way to the temple.
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>>21576549
Go to caster
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>>21576549
[x] Go to Caster.
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"Keep an eye on her." I say to him quietly as I walk to the door. "She's really shaken right now."

"Of course." He responds as Saber and I pass him.

With my reinforced legs, we make it all the way to the stairs leading up to the temple less than twenty minutes later. Out of breath though I am, I begin the climb with Saber. When we begin to get closer to the gate, and man in a purple Kimono holding a strangely long Katana appears and smiles down at us.

I hesitate. The man before us is clearly a servant, but he's also not attacking.

[ ] Attack.
[ ] Talk to him.
[ ] Try going around.
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>>21576664
Well, we found Assassin as through process of elimination there's no one else. Though we might find it strange for there to be an Assassin standing in plain sight with a long katana.

[X] Talk to him.
We're here to negotiate, see if Caster can help, fighting won't help with that.
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>>21576664
>[ ] Talk to him.
We need to talk to Caster. We come in peace and all that jazz.
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>>21576664
[x] Talk to him.
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>>21576664
>[ ] Talk to him.
Kojirou is pretty bro-tier, even if he IS a Freaky Temple Guy.
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>>21576664
Talk to him. Hello can we speak to the Mistress of the house hold please?
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>>21576733
LADY of the household.
She's not a rich man's Sally on the Side, she's a genteel lady of class and refinement.
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"Hello." I venture cautiously.

"Hello." He returns cheerfully.

Several moments of silence pass uncomfortably, while he stands there watching us.

"Uh..." I look at him. "I don't suppose you'll let us past?"

"No." He responds. "My duty is to make sure nobody enters or leaves if my Master doesn't will it."

"Is your Master cooperating with Caster?" I ask.

"You could say that." He responds, not moving.

After a few moments, I take a step forward, and he raises the sword slightly. I sigh. "Would you be opposed to conveying a message?"

"If it didn't require me to abandon my post at the gate, then certainly not." He responds. "But I can hardly leave here when there's someone to guard against."

We stare at each other for several minutes. ".... You aren't going to make it easy for me to talk to Caster, are you?"

"I suppose not. I certainly can't think of a way to allow it that doesn't directly contradict my current orders."

"... You're enjoying this aren't you?"

"A little, if I'm honest. Normally I simply fight whoever comes and they run away when they realize they can't kill me. Conversation is an unexpected pleasure."

[ ] Try a different approach.
[ ] Ask him to pass on a message.
[ ] Fight through him.
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>>21576768
Try a different approach.
Ask him which room Caster is in then throw rocks at it. It works in the movies right?
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>>21576768
[x] Try a different approach.
Offer to guard the entrance for him while he delivers our message to Caster.
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>>21576768
>[ ] Ask him to pass on a message.
No reason to get fancy with it.
After all, Caster probably wouldn't leave her gatekeeper without a way to contact her when necessary.
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>>21576768
>[ ] Ask him to pass on a message.
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>>21576768
[X] Ask him to pass on a message.

Ask him to pass on to Caster that we'd like to come in, under truce, to talk to her and her master about some grail stuff and if he can't deliver it while we're here we'll just head down the stairs and hang out for 5 minutes and come back up. Sweeten the deal by offering to visit with some tea and a snack so we can chat for a bit when we get a chance.
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>>21576722
He was only a "freaky temple guy" due to Caster summoning him and tying his prana draw into the ley lines the temple sits on top of. And while that means he can not leave the temple grounds (without a substitute prana source? Or at all? Can't remember... ) it does make him an excellent guard.

Koijiro was an odd assassin as well. He allowed Shiro to pass by in exchange for having an honorable match with Saber.

>[X] Try a different Approach
We have a telepathic bond to Saber, yeah? And we've seen Rin mentally converse with Archer. Ask him to mentally contact his master with the message and ask them to pass it on for us, please.
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>>21576768
>[ ] Ask him to pass on a message.
Lets do our best to keep this nice and civil.
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>>21576822
Dude. I know all that shit.
But that conversation he has with the temple in those images is almost identical to the whole "the ocean says yes" thing, making the title "Freaky Temple Guy" just too good to pass up.
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"If I were to give you a message to pass on, would you be willing to deliver it if I promised to leave for a certain amount of time? I mean, walking up and down the stairs would take me a few minutes at least."

He smiles. "Not for your servant though. Or for Another Servant, should they come along."

"What if I offered to guard the gate for you?"

"On your word alone?"

"I could sign a Geas."

"Can you craft one? Because I'm not a mage."

"... I'll admit that I can't." I respond with a sigh. "How often do you speak with Caster?"

"Almost every day." He responds. "She at least stops by to ask for a status report if nothing else."

"So if I were to leave a message with you, would you be willing to pass it along when you have the chance?"

He considers it, and then shrugs. "Alright then. What message would you like me to pass on?"

"That I would be interested in an exchange of favors and/or information." I respond, managing to find a pencil and a notepad in one of my pockets. "And that if she's interested in talking turns to either call me or have her Master contact me at this number." I say, writing down my phone-number and handing it to him.

"Very well." He says. "I don't suppose you have any real reason to remain, so you might as well depart."

"I don't HAVE to leave..." I respond.

"No, you don't. But that little girl is upset with me for turning back her Berserker, and I think she will try again tonight." He answers.
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>>21576862

I decide that catching Ilya in a fighting mood is probably a bad idea, so I leave and-

[ ] Head back to the church.
[ ] Go home.
[ ] Talk to Saber about ____.
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>>21576865
[X] Talk to Saber about ____.

Well, we have lots of stuff on our plate. I think Golden Boy is the most pressing at the moment. So talk to her about who he is, what he wants, how in the flying hell he is still here.
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>>21576865
Talk to Saber about her thoughts on us putting things on hold for Sakura. I doubt she's best pleased that we're prioritising Sakura over the war.
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>>21576865
[x] Talk to Saber about the Sheath.
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>[ ] Talk to Saber about ____.
The previous war's Archer. We need to know more about him.
>>21576869
>Golden Boy
Who me?
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>>21576865
>[ ] Talk to Saber about what 'Archer's' offer was.
Is gold boy trying to steal Rin's woman? Or something more sinister?
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As we walk away from the temple, I turn to Saber. "So that other Archer, the one from the last war.... What was it he offered you?"

She lets out a deep sigh. "He wanted to marry me." I stop walking for a second. "Shirou?" She says, turning to me. Catching myself, I begin walking forwards again.

"THAT'S what his offer was?"

"He claimed to know a way for us both to benefit from the Grail's power to take on True incarnate forms."

"What?"

"It requires a lot of power for Servants to live. A lot of that burden is placed on the Grail. So in theory, a Servant could drink some of the Grail's power for themselves and receive a form of their own, not just a borrowed shell granted by the Grail. That was the goal of the Rider in the last war."

"I see...." I respond, before a thought occurs. "Wait, is that what he did? Is that why he's here still?"

"I don't see how he could have." She returns. "I was forced to destroy the grail before it could fully manifest. I suppose it's possible that he did manage to take a sliver of it's power for himself."

"So, when he offered to help you-"
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>>21577028


"If he's already found a way to remain in this world, then he could both grant me my wish and receive his own by giving me form. I don't doubt that I could acquire the grail easily with his assistance."

I hesitate. "So why don't you?"

"I already swore myself to you. Accepting his help means betraying you, Rin, and Sakura."

I smile. "Nice to know I can rely on you."

"Also, I think he's a pompous ass."

"Really."

"I made the mistake of imagining taking his assistance, and I almost vomited at the thought of submitting to him in such a fashion. I took an oath to do what I could to help my people, but I also have my pride as a Knight and a King. If I fail here, I'll simply try again another time."

"... A king?" I ask, turning to her.

She nods. "In life, I was destined to lead a country. I did so pretending to be a man, since they wouldn't allow a woman the throne. I did my best to rule, but in the end I failed and my country was in worse shape than when I took the throne." She turns to look at me. "So there you have it, Shirou. You asked me before what my wish was, and now you have the complete answer."

>What say?
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>>21577035
I'm afraid I can't believe that Saber. That your country was worse off afterwards I mean. I've only known you for a few days and I feel that there is no way you wouldn't have ruled fairly and decently. I don't mean to belittle the troubles that signified the end of your rule but, you're only human. Noone can do better then their best in any situation sometimes it doesn't work out but that doesn't mean they are to blame you know? Besides how do you know that you weren't the best option? Maybe if someone else had taken the throne it all would have turned out worse?

So Saber, could you tell me your name?
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>>21577035

"Empires rise and fall. That has been the history of ever since our kind gathered in groups but I think you would have heard that often enough.

What happened? Knowing you, I don't doubt you gave everything you could, and then some."

[x] Ask her story
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>>21577035
"I'll do everything I can to help you achieve your wish. I don't want the grail for myself and it seems like you have a good and selfless cause.

Perhaps too selfless, I have spent time with you, and in between you eating me out of house and home I have gotten to know you somewhat. I know that you would have done everything you could, that you would have led with as much fairness, kindness and nobility as possible. If there's one thing I've learned this past week it's that no one can shoulder everything themselves.

What was your name Saber?"
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>>21577035
"But that's not the complete answer; there would have been a great many factors affecting the wellbeing of your kingdom. I really doubt you could control all of them. Did you suffer from droughts? Floods? Fire? Invasions? Destructive internal politics?"
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>>21577105

didn't we tell her that we probably wont be winning the grail war in the dojo?
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>>21577035

Preaching without knowing the full thing is going to be odd and we've only heard the barest of details from her.

Lets hear her story in full.
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>>21577321
Indeed.

Ask Saber who she is, what her name was before the Grail called her as a servant.
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"That's not the whole story." I respond, almost immediately.

"Are you calling me a liar?" She asks, angrily.

"Never. I'm certain what you're said is the truth. From your perspective." I answer easily. "But I've gotten to know you these last few days. Given how selfless your wish is and how seriously you take everything, I have no doubt that you ruled wisely and well. Despite what may have happened to you in life, we're all only human. Nobody can do better than their best."

"That's why it would be better if someone else took the throne." She responds.

"To what end? How do you know yours wasn't the best possible rule? How do you know what happened wasn't inevitable no matter who took the throne?" I ask, looking at her. "Or here's a better question. You're clearly a famous hero, so there should be some record of your deeds. Maybe you should see what people thought of your rule in the grand scheme of things?" I ask, looking at her. "You said you died in the middle of your task. How do you know what effect your rule had then? You weren't there to see the end of your story."

She's silent for a long moment. "Are you saying I should abandon my oath?"

"No." I answer. "The only person with any right to that decision is you. It just bothers me that you think so badly of yourself, when I've never seen you fall short of any goal set before you."

"I haven't helped Sakura."

"I feel better knowing you're trying." I respond. We continue walking along, when I get a call.

>Answer?
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>>21577387
Yeah, answer the phone, if we have caller ID on our cellphone, which we should, see who it is first.
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>>21577387
Answer. This is probably either Raiga or Caster
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>>21577387
Answer with "Hello Sexy" in a deep voice
No real reason, just to change things up and keep it entertaining.
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>>21577439
Or just "Emiya" for the full Kiritsugu experience.
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I answer the phone. "Hello?"

"Hello." Shinji answers. He sounds tired. Not like he's exhausted, more like someone resigned to their fate.

"Shinji." I respond, trying to formulate a sentence from behind the sudden anger clouding my mind. "Why are you calling me?"

"I don't know. I guess apologizing is part of it, though it feels kinda weak to do that over the phone." He responds. Something about the way he's talking.... I find myself less angry with him. Not ready to forgive by a long shot, but willing to back off slightly. "The situation with Sakura.... shit, is she still alive?"

"For now."

"Good." He says, and he breaths a small sigh of relief. "I hope she makes it. I know you probably hate me, god knows I've given you good reason to, but I need you to listen for a sec."

".... Go on."

"I've been a terrible brother. I was always angry with Sakura for something that wasn't her fault. The person I should've been mad at was Zouken. He was the one who.... I'm rambling." He says with a chuckle. "Listen. You need to worry about Zouken. He's the one who put that worm into Sakura. He's the one that told me to activate that kill switch if she turned against us. I know I'm an evil bastard, but Zouken's sins make me look like an angel by comparison. That Worm in Sakura has the potential to control her if he can beat her in a battle of wills."

"Why tell me all this?"
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>>21577476
I like this idea. Make it happen.
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>>21577566

"Because fuck him and fuck this war. I found another way to get what I wanted from life, so I'm leaving. I don't expect to see you again before it's all over, and I won't come back if Zouken's alive. He'll kill me by inches if he learns what I've told you. If you can, there's a secret door in Sakura's room. If you want to kill him, there would be a good place to start."

"Shinji-"

"Don't go thanking me or cursing me just yet. I'm not sure I can take either right now. I'm not even sure whether my info made the situation better or worse, but Shirou?"

"Yeah?"

"Take care of my sister for me. She deserved better than all this." With that last statement, he hangs up on me. I idly wonder if it'll be the last time I speak to him.

"Shirou?" Saber looks at me questioningly. I pass along the content of the conversation. "Perhaps Rider was right, if he really did risk his life to help you."

I nod, lost in thought.

[ ] Go home.
[ ] Go to the church.
[ ] Go to the Matou house.
[ ] Other.
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>>21577570

Local time check please

[x] Go to the church

Need to pick up Rin.

Maybe we'll storm the Matou house tonight.
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>>21577570

Waddiya know

Keeping the fag alive had its uses.

[x] Pick Up Rin
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>>21577570
[X] Go to the church.

As tempting as it is to pull off plan gasoline we should regroup, share information, and plan before we do anything.

I wonder what would happen if Kiritsugu shot Zouken with an Origin bullet and Zouken tried to defend against it.
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It's dangerous to go alone! [X] Take Rin!
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>>21577570
FUCK YOU SHINJI.
YOUR ASS WAS OURS, AND YOU HAD TO GO AND RUIN IT BY NOT BEING A RETARDED LITTLE SHIT THIS TIME AROUND.

Eh...whatever.
>[ ] Go to the church.
We should have Rin with us before we go storming the Matou house. Plus, she will probably want in on the action.
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>>21577570
Go to the church.
>>21577611
On that topic what would happen if we had Sakura swallow an origin bullet and activate her magic? But yeah only face Zouken when we have a method of killing him.
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>>21577648
I dunno, but it'll certainly be an awkward request to make.

"Sakura, would you mind eating a bullet made out of one of my dad's ribs? I think that it'll break you magic, in a good way!"
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>>21577570
[x] Go to the church.
We really should talk to Sakura. And ask Rin about magic for finding lost artefacts.
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>>21577714

Wait what?

Why?
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>>21577725
Saber claimed her sheath had potent healing maigcs but that it was lost. It's likely it was lost during the last grail war here so maybe we could find it eh?
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>>21577748

Ah. I guessed the use but that makes sense with the knowledge we have IC.
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>>21577748
It is almost assuredly lost forever, with no hope of retrieval.
No, the odds of us finding it and next to none. In fact, the odds that is inside us right now thereby granting us superhuman regenerative abilities are so miniscule that they aren't even worth contemplating.
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>THIS FUCKING ROUTER.

>Sorry guys, had a bit of a moment there. Which turned into almost an hour of profanity.
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>>21577948

We all hate it when our gateways into the world wide web suddenly close on us.
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>>21577948

IT LIVES

>thought you went to bed
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I return to the church with Saber.

When we arrive, I notice that Rin is sitting there with Archer. She seems like she's still concerned, but she's managed to compose herself a bit more.

"Shirou?" she turns at the sound of the door. "Did you talk to Caster?"

I shake my head. "Somehow, she apparently has Assassin working as her door-guard. Best I could do was leave a message."

Rin nods, and then turns back towards the front. "It's weird sitting here in a church. I feel like I should pray for Sakura's sake, but I can't seem to find the proper words for it."

I put a hand on her shoulder. "Something else happened while we were gone."

"Yes?" She asks nervously.

"Shinji called." i then relay the conversation between us.

"He might be lieing." Archer points out.

"I wouldn't put it past him." I respond. "But I think he was genuine on this. Zouken is the most dangerous player on the field right now."

"So then we kill Zouken?" Archer asks, tentatively.

"Yeah, I think we might." I respond, much to Archer's surprise. "He's clearly evil, plus he seriously fucked up both Shinji AND Sakura in different ways. I mean, I might spare him if he changed his tune and helped us, but somehow I doubt it."

"Are we moving tonight? It's almost three in the morning." Saber asks.

[ ] Go home and sleep.
[ ] Attack now.
[ ] Other.
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I guess I missed the thread. What a shame.
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>>21577948
Recite the litanies and perform the rite of internet reconnection hit it with a wrench
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>>21578052
Maybe we should put it off for the night.

>>21578053
Or not.
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>>21578052
>[ ] Attack now.
CHAAAAAAAAAARGE

May as well get the jump on Zouken. He might not have realized that Shinji has jumped ship yet.
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>>21578053
Missed the thread?

More like just in time!
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>>21578063
Well it goes two ways. One, we attack now while he is most unprepared, or two, we wait until we ourselves are more prepared. Zouken is not exactly getting stronger, unlike Caster and ourselves.
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>>21578052
Other. Talk to Sakura. We aren't going after Zouken just yet and Caster still might call this evening.
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>>21578052
[x] Other.
Go check the secret door. But send Archer in first in case it's a trap.
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>>21578052

[x] Honest assessment by Rin, Archer AND Rider

Could we take down Zouken? What does he use, what specialties did he display? What are the defences of the Matou house?

Bring in Rider, we'll need her help if we're doing this tonight.
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>>21578074

Seconding. I think Sakura's gonna want to talk to us before we go off to murder Zouken. Plus the possibility of Caster talking to us....
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>several minutes in GIMP later...
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>>21578082
Isn't checking the secret door pretty much the same deal as attacking him?

Its not like we can just march into a magus' house and start poking around without him noticing us. It'll either turn into a fight or he will figure out we're after him and scamper.
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>>21578052
[X] Go home and sleep.

We know NOTHING about Zouken's capabilities right now, we need more data before we go after him.

We've had a long night, we need to rest, evaluate the situation and work out what to do.
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>>21578052

Well servants don't need to sleep, does saber need to sleep? Seeing that the only way we can give her prana is to sleep with her or use the MANA TRANSFER DRAGON

>[x]Check our status.

On yea, we do need to go to school tomorrow.
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>>21578109
Ilya, Rin, and Sakura can all give her prana as well.
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>>21578107
Long night?

Pffff

We haven't even taken a life-threatening injury yet. This has been a relaxed evening on the town by F/SN standards.
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>>21578114

Ilya is not on our side... yet.

I wonder if she is going to ask us to "Be mine"
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>>21578128
And Sakura is indisposed.
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>>21578138
So there is only one way to get Saber into tip-top shape.

Rin, you know what you must do.
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>>21578052
>Other

Check on Sakura. Ask Kirei if he would consider joining us in the attack: he mentioned herbs and partially removing the
parasite familiar might help, and also told us his role as a master in the past war. He might be able to identify items beneficial to Sakura in the Matou household, if not be able to find information on how to remove it entirely without killing the host. He may be willing to hrlp due to Zoken not beung part of the current grail war, but may also violate his neutral status. Worth asking.

Also seconding assessment of situation by allies.
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>>21578128

Quite possibly. We've accommodated everything shes asked for.
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>>21578145
If he helps take Zouken down it disrupts the natural course of the War.
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>>21578145

Mmm. That Zouken did something to the master of rider means he is already involved.

Kiritsugu and Kayneth both also had outside backup/interference. The precedence is there and he probably won't lift a finger.
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>>21578153
True but OOC he really hates Zouken. Besides in char he has no reason not to move against him because Zouken isn't involved and is unnaturally sustaining his life. As a priest he should be against that sort of thing.
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>>21578218
He does have a reason not to; I just listed it, in fact. Sure, he also has reasons to do so, but it would not be unreasonable for him to refuse.
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I walk towards the back of the chapel, and as I approach the door, Kirei steps out. "Can I help you?"

"I thought I should talk to Sakura." I respond. "Can I see her?"

He nods, and leads me back. The room isn't far back at all. In fact I'd guess that it shares a wall with the chapel, even if we had to walk around to get to the door.

Stepping inside, I see Sakura stir slightly. She opens her eyes after a few moments. "Sempai?" She asks weakly, voice barely a whisper.

"I'm right here." I respond, gently taking her hand.

"...What happened?"

"You're sick Sakura. Very sick. We had to take you to the church because Kirei is the only person we know who could even try to heal you. you had us worried there, but now we're gonna make sure you get better."

"... sorry..."

"Don't be. It isn't your fault. right now, your sister and I are very upset with the people who did it to you, and we're going to deal with them. We're gonna make you better too."

"Sister?" Sakura asks weakly, but with an obvious note of happiness in her voice.
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>>21578277

"That's right. Rin told me everything. Kirei told us what's wrong with you, and now we're going to fix it." I lean in and give her a gentle kiss on the forehead. "Now you get some rest. Rider's gonna keep an eye on you for us, and we're gonna go get to work on helping you."

Sakura smiles at me, managing to mumble that she trusts me before falling asleep again. Kirei tells me that he's going to rest, and asks Rider to inform him if something happens with Sakura.

The rest of us....

[ ] Go home and rest.
[ ] Begin planning our attack.
[ ] Other.
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>>21578234
Never hurts to ask.

After all, Kirei is a stone cold badass. Plus, never hurts to get a glimpse of his fighting style. You know, in case he turns out to be an evil mastermind attempting to being forth an eldrich abomination to destroy the world of man. Though i admit that is unlikely.
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>>21578283

[x] Begin planning attack

Ask Rin if she has any spells that can refresh her and Shirou so they're not too tired.
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>>21578283
>[ ] Begin planning our attack.
It is time. Let us marshal our forces, and plan the downfall of the abominable Matou fortress!
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>>21578283
Go home and rest. Tomorrow we check on Sakura and then plan our attack until we recieve word from Caster.
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>>21578283
[x] Other.
Ask Kirei if he'd be willing to assist in taking down Zouken.
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>>21578283
>[X] Begin planning our attack.

Always helps to be prepared. Unfortunately, the "Multiple Simultaneous Devastating Noble Phantasm Bombardment" stratagem probably won't fly.
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>>21578311

I suppose a preemptive attack would give us an advantage. However I wonder if attacking him would provoke him into summoning True Assassin (unless he was going to do it anyway)

I'm a bit hazy on the HF route.
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>>21578352
At this point, doubt anything we do (short of killing him of course) will affect whether he summons True Assassin or not.

My gut says he will since Shinji is out of the game but Rider still lives, which is something that only happened in the HF route, but we've gone off the tracks far enough it could go either way.
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Alright, I have to be up at something resembling a respectable hour tomorrow, So I'm gonna cut it off here.
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>>21578352

Doesn't need to provoke him. In HF, he summoned True Assassin after Shinji fucked up with Rider. Basically he summons it if two conditions are met:

1) Shinji Fucked Up. Big Time.
2) Rider/Sakura are still in play and thus the Matou house still has a chance for victory.

Basically he should be summoning it right about 5 minutes ago.
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>>21578352
Attacking him leads to bad ends always in HF.
Plan attack, so long as that doesn't mean attack right now while we're sleepless and overly emotional.
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>>21578376
Shinji just quit. Get ready for True Assassin and the Shadow.
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>>21578371

Thanks for the quest, I hope things get better on your end.
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>>21578371
Aw man.
Thanks for running, and good luck with your crippling depression! I suggest a healthy dose of chinese cartoons depicting cute girls doing cute things.
Or giant robots blowing shit up. That works too.
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Nothing quite like ARIA
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>>21578383
Well yeah, but Shirou in HF is a pansy girly man up until the very end. We are certainly not that.

>>21578387
True Assassin probably, Shadow i somewhat doubt. Didn't Sakura become the Shadow in large part due to her mental state? Aside from the horrible worm slowly killing her, she shouldn't have much reason to be unhappy this time around. We've been pretty considerate towards her, and nobody she cares about has died.
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>>21578371

Thanks for the session AC-Guy.

Any idea when we can expect the next one?
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>>21578410

Sakura and the Shadow were events set in motion by Zouken. He needs to start them before the can begin, hence why you don't see it appear in Fate and UBW.

(Reading through material, them fucking worms eat the uterus. Sakura will never have children.)

I have no face
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>>21578431
I thought the Shadow was equal parts a side effect of Zouken activating her as an imperfect Grail (allowing it to leak through), and Sakura's latent levels of buttmad causing her to sympathize with Angry Mainecoon (since he couldn't act without at least a semi-willing host).

So its possible that if she's all roses and sunshine, she won't start channeling the ultra-devil even if she is activated as a Grail.
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>>21578485

If the shadow appears.

What will /tg/ decide?
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>>21578496
Use her body as the Grail sounds good.
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>>21578496

No Deaths.

Except those who are major dicks
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>>21578496

Actually, if Sakura keeps staying at the church, she should not become the shadow, since Zouken needs access to her to start off the shadow and Kirei will not abide his presence.
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>>21578553
Zouken is a Worm That Walks. He can get in there and get out and nobody would ever know.
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>>21578562

I think he hid this main control worm inside of Sakura, near her heart
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>>21578584
He already has all the access he needs, then.
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>>21578562

Well, hes no assassin and he can't summon true assassin until the shadow consumes assassin. I don't think he can hide his presence that well. Gil or Kirei should detect him or his worms breaking and entering.
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>>21578496
Superhero, durr. Thats not even a choice.

As a fun bonus, if Sakura becomes the Grail then that means we might be able to save Ilya from dying from her shitty homunculus body.
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>>21578594
But Sakura is made of tougher stuff than that. Telling her Rin accepts her as her sister and inducting her into the fold would only strengthen her resolve.

And Granddaddy Dickworms isn't much of a threat unless you're a slasher movie victim.
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>>21579286
It is going to bug the hell out of me if we end up with the everybody lives except Ilya and Gilgamesh ending. I mean, yeah, we will probably have to fight Gilgamesh to the death, but who the hell likes Sakura?
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I do
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>>21579354
Really? Why?
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>>21579323

I do too.

>>21579357

Girl next door type. You know.
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>>21579409
No, I really do not. Please explain.
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A combination of crushing on the cute domestic type who's affectionate and feeling sympathy for her wretched backstory.

Personally, I'm more of a Rin fan (I love intellectual types), but I'm not in this quest for waifus. Whichever leads to a good story, I'm fine with.

>>21577387
This has been interesting and fun so far. I'm amused at how we've been playing it safe this entire quest, and Shirou's never even been seriously hurt (that misstep in training with magecraft aside). We've not even had to rely on Avalon, because we're so cautious/diplomatic.
Will Saber ever find her missing sheath, at this rate?

>>21578283
Things look like they're heating up. I wonder, will we have time to train more (in either Magecraft or Combat)? Are we prepared to take on a properly-trained magus who has no qualms about just killing us? At least Illya wanted to spare our asses.

>>21577570
While all this business with Zouken looks excellent, I'm also intrigued about Shinji. When did he become so reasonable? I'd have thought he was a sore loser to the core.

But what's this about getting what he wants another way? I thought he wanted to be a mage, but he can't do so without circuits.Unless...

>MFW he found a style of magecraft which has no need of circuits.
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>>21580268
Setting aside the second part, I feel the need to readdress the subject. We are talking about Sakura. I mean, Sakura. Okay, let's try that again. We're talking about the girl who's innards are made of worms, and literal, physical evil. All of it, in fact. And dickworms. I mean, I get the whole opinion thing, in theory. But I really do not understand how anybody could like her. It is not just the dickworms; I am not nearly as sexual a person as /tg/ is - I just disliked her from the start.
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>> MFW Shinji is now a Dead Apostle.
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>>21580392
We could try to project the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. Would help us kill Zouken anyway.
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>>21580392
I was thinking more "he learns Atlas-style alchemy and number-crunches combat away", but fang-banger Shinji would be funny, too!

>>21580326
Fair enough.

My personal beef with Sakura is less of the character herself (though her constant cries of "Sempai!: grated after a while). It was more about how her Sakura's backstory was handled.

It struck me as the worst sort of tragedy porn - that wretched cliche of rape-as-backstory taken to ludicrous extremes. She's so helpless and defenseless and self-loathing that Shirou (and by extension the player) cannot help but want to save her (at least, in theory. I've seen far too many /a/ threads argue about the practice and I don't wanna start here).

Shit, this is the Nasuverse - where, if folks get broken badly enough but still hold onto ideals, they can and WILL fuck with the laws of reality to earn a happy ending. Sakura was just too passive for a character in this setting, for my liking.

OPINIONS, OPINIONS EVERYWHERE
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>>21580463
>project
>an abstraction of a concept humans aren't normally capable of bearing

I want to kill you
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>>21580640
Actually, that was exactly why I mentioned setting aside the second part. I felt no sympathy for her and found her backstory obnoxious and her person weak instead of wretched and tragic, respectively.

>>21580655
MEoDP come from a circuit in the eyes, though. There are actual magic shenanigans going on. Surely for a guy who's entirely existence is a falsehood, rewiring his eyes, which he already does very frequently, albeit in more of an enhancement aspect, should not be impossible.
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>>21580687
Dealing with MEoDP almost broke both Shikis mentally. Not to mention that MEoDP nukes Tohno Shiki's brain everytime he uses them extensively. I'd hate to see how Shirou would deal with looking around and seeing the death of all his friends.
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>>21578496
I save Ilya.
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>>21580832
Shirou is already a broken human being. Though I feel like OP is failing to truly encapsulate that, to be honest. I think he might be able to handle it. It would probably encourage him to do something stupid like make Saber stand back while he tries to solo Berserker.
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>>21580640
Ritual magic needs no circuits. Or he could join the Church and learn sacraments.

>>21580687
Well we can't change >opinions
anon.

>CAPTCHA: fami ridertan
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>>21581408
>ridertan



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