Week 10:
Population: 277
Technology: Robotics, Basic AI, Automation, Comms, Explosives. Basic Anti Ballistics, Taser Weaponry, Firearms, Hydroponics.
Weapons: AntiAir Guns, Assault Rifles, SMGs, Shotguns, Semi Auto Pistols, Revolvers, Combat Knives. Tasers. Grenades, RPG Launchers.
Armor: AntiBallistic Vests, Riot Armor
Soldiers: Gun Rovers, Security Guards, 2 armored WreckingRovers.
Defenses: Exclusion Zone, Exclusion Zone Wall.
Contacts:
The Parish: Allied
The Vice Lords: Blood Fued


A: Explore
B: Scavenge For Supplies
C; Construct Something New
D: Research New Technology
E: Make a Suggestion.

The Vice Lords are quite simply, finished. They don't have enough elders to maintain their culture. A few have fled deep into the city, hoping to find ruins where they can ply their drug trade in piece. A lot of them leav willinging (or unwillingly) with the Mollochians. The rest just sort of...wander around in a daze.

continued.

Rolled 92

>>21509366
Right now after that battle, I think we need more supplies to do anything useful.

Rolled 69

>>21509366
Actually, I want to go visit the military guys now since the largest threat in the city is gone for now.

We should build a monument to our fallen near the tower and possibly another one near the Parish.

We bury our dead and hold services.

This will cement our bonds and ease the loss.

>>21509410
The Mollochians?
I agree with chasing them down and routing them.

The Parishioners are holding a Funeral Service for their Dead Next week. Lord Bishop Harlan would like the "Spiritual Advisor's" permission to pray for the souls of the dead Security guards and the Gun Rovers who bravely sacrified themselves for the sake of the Samaritans and Security Professionals.

The Processed Junkies are proving to be quite adaptable. After a period of reorientation they've begun taking to our culture with a gusto. They're quickly becoming a part of every division, and are more than happy to do their share of work if it means food, shelter, and respect.

The Mollochians have left Light city with 95 Vice Lords.

A pair of helicopters are circling the old Vice Lord Fortress and several patrols of power armored troopers are looting the battlefield. They show a particular interest in anything Manufactured by our company.

Rolled 87

>>21509427
Looks like we do have a costumer after all, we should talk to them then.

>>21509427
We should definitely have our own funeral services, and the Bishop can pray for whoever he wants.

>>21509421
The Molochians were just a travelling slaver band. The military group has a base near the city and uses power armor.

>>21509410
We should develop power armor and helicopters of our own first, then we can do that.

>>21509392
We definitely need supplies. Let's gather resources as soon as we build a monument and bring in as many people as possible. Our population needs to massively expand.

>>21509427
>>21509427
Something about this tells me about something larger, that this is only a scout group scavenging from city to city. Inquire about them and talk about trading for their power armor technology.

>>21509512
Also, reposting from old thread. Suggestions and comments solicited.

In the meantime, we can plan out future weapons systems.

For the moment I was mostly thinking about ground and air systems as follows:

Ground forces:

Power armor - a powered exoskeleton that uses electrodes, sensors, and motion detection/response systems (like for RL bionic limbs and powered exoskeletons like the one being developed by Raytheon/SARCOS) to detect the user's thoughts and motions and move in concert with enhanced strength. This will give our troops increased strength and self sufficiency and very good defense. As such, we'll be able to minimize loss of life to a great extent.

Walk-capable tanks - The tank is the king of the open plain, but we're inside a 250-mile-wide radius of wreckage and other cities could be similar ruins. We'll need to develop a suspension that is capable of raising the tank from the ground enough to get over obstacles, but not enough to make it an easily visible target - probably something with six legs. However, regardless of the utility of such suspensions they would likely be slower and less efficient than rolling caterpillar suspension systems; as such we should give it the ability to lower itself back onto treads.

Mechanical walkers - Tanks are great, but operating them requires a crew of several individuals with significant training. If we scale up the power armor concept, we can keep the motion and thought detection systems it uses to create a middleweight option, halfway betwen a power-armored infantryman and a 'mech. It would be capable of hauling around smaller weapons and be pretty short to avoid having a profile that would get it spotted and rapidly targeted (no more than two stories tall, preferably about as tall as a tank), but would be much easier to control for one person.

>>21509525
Aerial forces:

Gun drone - small, potentially disposeable, close to man-sized weapons platform easy t mass produce. Carries a couple of SMGs to start, can be upgraded to whatever's necessary. Can run on biodiesel. Preferably able to hover and operate a visual link (cell phone cameras for still photos all the way up to a proper video feed) or mount a sensor suite. These would be much easier to, for example, maneuver into tight spaces in an urban ruin - and would be an acceptable loss where a heavier vehicle would not. Helicopters are expensive.

Attack helicopter - Think of your standard helicopter gunship or the Jigabachis from Ghost in the Shell. The capacity to hover is pretty damn useful when you're shooting things rather than carpet-bombing them, and the ability to automate movement would be helpful if the crew all got killed.

Tiltrotor aircraft: Think of the cargo Vertibirds from the first Fallout games or of the Boeing Osprey. These have vertical takeoff and landing capabilities, can carry thirty-some troops or tow ten tons of cargo (sevenish tons on an external hook with the bay empty, so they can tow vehicles), and can carry armament. very good when you want to land in a small space or move people around.

>>21509525
>>21509534
We should with the basics such as the power armor and the gun drones, then slowly make our way up to the tanks and helos once we have enough resources and manpower.

>>21509525
>>21509534
Interesting long term plans, but only possible if you develop an adequete power source. Not like you have a great big natural power generator just lying around right...?

Okay what are we doing guys? The bishop is praying for the souls of people he thinks deserves it. You can stick a fork in the Vice Lords because they are DONE. You still have that mysterious sky scraper you never bothered with (remember the Men in White?) and finally you have the dudes in power armor.

What do?

>>21509512
I'm actually thinking we should do the funeral first, then handle the militarty guys.

>>21509525
>>21509534
We need to at least match their power amour, also improve our rover, they do have some, and can expect duplicates to apear we need something better, gotta keep the big dog image you know.

>>21509611
For the power source, the geddonite crystals are very useful.
>>21509611
The funeral, first please.

Rolled 18

i recommend resource gathering there were some kick-ass rolls for it in the beginning of the thread besides funeral services are next week.

Okay you have enough resources to build a monument of sorts, what do you want? A statue, a wall with some plaques, a holographic image? As things go this isn't terribly resource intensive. (I mean, how many buildings have you broken down into rubble?) So I'll allow a small monument without resource gathering.

Oh and if you want power armor you need at least a high scale power generation devices and strength enhancement systems.

>>21509670
Holographic image.

Rolled 35

>>21509670
Holo.

>>21509683
This

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>>21509670
We build a stone monument outside the detox bunker gate - a cenotaph, which is also known as an empty tomb (pic related is the one in london, with the stone casket on top). We inscribe the names of the fallen (ours, and those of our allies) and praise their sacrifice for the sake of a better future for our community. We hold ceremonies. We can invite the parishoners.

Alright, you can only install a holographic image at the Tower due to power concerns. I'm thinking it will be an inscribed dedication to the men and women who died and the image will be still frames and recordings taken from GunRovers and the WreckingRover before its optics were destroyed.

>>21509711
the cenotaph can display the faces of the fallen with a built-in holoprojector or something if you guys want a holo but think this is classier.

Rolled 23

>>21509711
>>21509720
A combination of ideas, I like it.

>>21509711
as long as its made of brick and mortar with some metal in the form of plaques I'll allow it.

>>21509719
Pictures before the battle, not during.

>>21509737
Sure.

A: there really isn't much in the way of footage or stillframes of people from before the battle, yuou don't exactly have a press corps.

B: what are we building her, cenotaph, holo cenotaph what?

>>21509802
A holocentograph on the front steps of the tower.

>>21509825
Fund it.

A Cenotaph is built near the entrance of The Tower. The structure consists of a silver casket (kept shiny and clean) perched on top of a structure held aloft by six, stout pillars. The small holoprojector in the roof of the Cenotaph displays the names of all the people who have fallen in battle to make the city a safer place.

>>21509898
H'okay. Now we gather resources. Then, we research Geddonite as a potential power source.

>>21509908
Agreed.

>>21509908
We gather resources, but we should meet the military guys soon.

Week 21:
Population: 277
Technology: Robotics, Basic AI, Automation, Comms, Explosives. Basic Anti Ballistics, Taser Weaponry, Firearms, Hydroponics.
Weapons: AntiAir Guns, Assault Rifles, SMGs, Shotguns, Semi Auto Pistols, Revolvers, Combat Knives. Tasers. Grenades, RPG Launchers.
Armor: AntiBallistic Vests, Riot Armor
Soldiers: Gun Rovers, Security Guards, 2 armored WreckingRovers.
Defenses: Exclusion Zone, Exclusion Zone Wall.
Cool Stuff: HoloCenotaph
Contacts:
The Parish: Allied
A: Explore
B: Scavenge For Supplies
C; Construct Something New
D: Research New Technology
E: Make a Suggestion.

The employees are rather happy with the new monument, especially the new recruits.

The Parishioners are having a funereal service for everyone who died in Operation: Samson's Fury.

The men in power armor withdraw to their base at the edge of the city.

The Men in white armor have put machine gun emplacements in strategic positions around their tower. They also appear to have a howitzer on their roof.

>>21509967
Soon as we have power armor.

alright gimme 3 rolls for resource gathing then, you know the drill 1d100s.

Rolled 29

>>21510013

Rolled 47

>>21510013

Rolled 51

>>21510013
rollan

Rolled 5

>>21510013

Rolled 54

>>21510013

>They also appear to have a howitzer on their roof.
Sir I do not think this bodes well. Perhaps some long range anti-vehicular weaponry would be apropos.

>>21510045
Long range artillery and a way to communicate less directly(losses should be avoided at all cost especially during the greaving processes)

Alright you send out your wrecker rovers, some security guards, and some workers, though this time you're more intent on gathering resources than tearing down buildings. You bring in the usual collection of pipes, wires, glass, plastics and other recyclable garbage and convert it into usable materials. Nothing of real note occurs during the gathering.

>>21510088
Alright, we should meet the men in white and come with no intentions to harm as of this moment.

Week 21:
Population: 277
Technology: Robotics, Basic AI, Automation, Comms, Explosives. Basic Anti Ballistics, Taser Weaponry, Firearms, Hydroponics.
Weapons: AntiAir Guns, Assault Rifles, SMGs, Shotguns, Semi Auto Pistols, Revolvers, Combat Knives. Tasers. Grenades, RPG Launchers.
Armor: AntiBallistic Vests, Riot Armor
Soldiers: Gun Rovers, Security Guards, 2 armored WreckingRovers.
Defenses: Exclusion Zone, Exclusion Zone Wall.
Cool Stuff: HoloCenotaph
Contacts:
The Parish: Allied
A: Explore
B: Scavenge For Supplies
C; Construct Something New
D: Research New Technology
E: Make a Suggestion.

At the moment your only depndable way to expand your numbers is to pressgang junkies. To be perfectly honest though you're doing them a favor. A lot of them are in withdrawel now and there's been a lot of murder and suicide ever since their dealers left the city and went into hiding.

Oh, and the Perishioners have delivered their tithe of resources.

Rolled 89

>>21510100
Send diplomats to the men in white.

>>21510100
E: We should get to know the men in white, maybe send a small CTF team to show them no harm.

>>21510100
>>21510117
>>21510118
>>21510123
We'll radio the parish inquiries about them and ask our recruits the same thing first, they may know more than we do.

>>21510100
Also we should really research Geddonite, we've been neglecting it for weeks.

>>21510133
I think we have before and their answer was "We don't know besides the odd human/animal disappearnce near their building now and then."

Well your contacts don't know anything about the Men in White. So far you've just seen guys in white riot armor capturing dogs and junkies (which is a practice you indulge in.) Oh, and then they fortified their sky scraper. Which, as I recall is 150 stories tall.

animals and people avoid the area for some reason.

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For when we get around to tanks:

The foremost idea is a power transmission assembly that allows energy from the motor to be transmitted to one of the tank's multiple locomotive systems. This means that power can be sent where necessary without much in the way of an efficiency loss, allowing these massive redundancies in the way of extra movement systems. These will in effect render our tanks nigh-unstoppable unless they are literally blown into pieces - you can chuck shaped charges at the movement systems all day before they finally have to stop for repairs.

Pic related features a conventional tread suspension with interrupted treads. This is desirable, especially if the treads can move up and down slightly, as it will give the tank greater maneuverability and traction (think four wheel drive) and the potential to keep moving should one tread fail so long as the failed tread is not immobilized - as well as the ability to adjust to minor differences in elevation. This system will be the most energy-efficient due to its low ground pressure, as it spreads the weight of the tank over the widest area.

Continued below.

>>21510139
We should set up an isolated lab before we touch it, it could be posionus to humans.

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>>21510157

Above the treads, we can install an armored six-leg walking suspension akin to pic related, preferably one that can fold together when not in use and simply be another layer of armor. This adds yet more redundancy and grants the tank the ability to step over the aforementioned obstacles, climb slopes, navigate ditches and trenches without a bridge, etc.

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>>21510163

Given the slower walking pace the tank would likely achieve on its legs, a third redundancy in the form of wheeled emplacements on the ends of the legs would not be unwise. These would be purely secondary, but faster than walking should the caterpillar treads fail (which is likely, given that it's how tanks are generally disabled). This system will spread the weight of the tank over less room than its treads and be less energy efficient, but will be a faster backup than the walking system.

>>21510158
Our people grow geddonite crystals for kicks in their living quarters and have not been harmed by them. The people we've observed have not been harmed either. As such they're unlikely to be toxic.


However, we do have an ideal location for a lab where that strange crystal formation's located. Since the crystal formation shoots off lightning and so forth, it is likely somewhat problematic.

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>>21510180
Anyway, we'd likely have to research the tank tread and spider suspensions separately, then research the combined version at the least.

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>>21510221
Comments solicited on the tank system.

Research geddonite or go bother the men in white, guys? Keep in mind, they have riot armor - something only our elites have.

>>21510233
I thought we reaserched better production

>>21510100
While researching Geddonite is a priority, we should first round up as many junkies as possible for detox.

>>21510221
yes, and you'd have to research an adaptive power suppy, though I'd include the automated systems to run that AI. So you're looking at a standard tank, that interrupted tread, sextaped locomotion and an additional research date if you want wheels on those legs.

>>21510238
We don't need to has we can crank out 10000 units of ammo in a matter of hours.

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>>21510255
He means better riot armor production. At the moment our production line is not optimized to produce it, we'd need to research a better method of making the stuff so we could churn it out en mass and cheaply.

>>21510252
>sextaped locomotion
>sextaped
>SEXTAPED
Oh my!

>Civilization Quest
>Set in post appocalyptic world.
Oh shit nigger, what are you doing?

>>21510289
he is being awesome that is what.

>>21510289
angrydorf what are you doing not playing god game

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>>21510289
We've had them set in a variety of places, man. What do you want, a copyright?

>>21510289
It's being awesome is what. We're a megacorp that specializes in robotics!

>>21510276
Sextus is latin for six. Though the pun is not lost on me.

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>>21510318
What do the parishioners and our recruits say about the men in white? Are they hostile, dangerous?

How many junkies could we concievably nab if we went out and grabbed them? Dozens? Over a hundred?

>>21510289
At the moment? Waiting for my players to decide if they want to Research Geddonite, or Talk to The Men In White.

anyway, shouldn't you be running a HARDE MODE civ?

Rolled 84

>>21510332
Men in white, preferably.

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>>21510339
We've gotten vital intel on groups like the Molochians by asking our allies before sending delegations.

>>21510339
I'm with squire on this one.

>>21510329
depends on how well you roll, at max you could process 80 junkies.

Your contacts tell you they know nothing about the Men in white, and your recruits only know vague rumors. Mostly that anyone who went into that area with hostile intent disappeared and was never heard from again.

Also the people there like capturing animals for whatever reason.

>>21510364
If they capture animals, that means they have horses.

>>21510332
I have that scheduled for thomorrow...

Why is everyone suggesting I leave and start a thread, i'm quite content lurking this thread...

>>21510364
Then I'll bow to prevailing opinion. Send in a Contact Task Force under a white (ha) flag of truce and a radio.

>>21510387
Absolutly.

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>>21510375
Because we like your threads, probably.

>>21510375
We like your threads, and who said for you to leave?

>>21510375
I like your threads and I was jumping on the band wagon, feel free to lurk or post AD, you've certainly earned some liesure time with your cool threads.


Okay writing up CTF encounter.

>>21510431
Oh boy, capture the flag!!

Rolled 37

>>21510364
>depends on how well you roll, at max you could process 80 junkies.

But we can grab as much as we can and put them into holding cells in our tower and keep them alive and stabilized before we go through detox and rehabilitation procedure, right?

We should do this first. Since every turn we do not help these junkies, they kill each other, die of withdrawal or commit suicide.

Rolled 41

>>21510375
When are you going to run Drow Civ quest.
I don't like the deity quest...thing you have, I bet it turned into namefag circlejerk soon.

>>21510450
AD, in this quest CTF means Contact Task Force.

Rolled 73

>>21510431
Personally, I think we should have gone for military guys first.

These Men in White seem to be the crazy, moralless, evil scientist type of faction.

>>21510459
Next turn, then. Or we just put a Contact Taskforce on standing duty for junkie capture and detox.

A CTF group is assembled, as per usual it's led by a man in riot armor and made up of several specialists, among them a diplomat trained by HR and Marketing. They are accompanied by Gun Rovers and bear a flag of truce.

The travel through Light City is a tad chaotic, animals and junkies are out in abundance but most people know not to mess with Fabrique Generale security forces by now. After a few hours of travel on foot you finally reach the building where the Men In White are known to lurk.

It's your standard sky scraper, about 150 stories tall, polarized glass windows with the occasionall LMG turret in place. You know for a fact that they have a small artillery piece on their roof. The Sky scraper has a large sigil emblazoned over its entrance: a staff tipped with a pair of wings. The staff is circled by a red, and white snake. The snakes form a double helix over the staff. Underneath the staff are two words is a banner proclaiming "Darwin Biological Research Labrotories."

continued.

>>21510506
If we do go to war with them, those labs could be of some use to us. Other than that, they seem friendly enough.

>>21510506
I think we benefit more with being at peace with them then going to war.

Rolled 5

>>21510525
>>21510538

Why are we immediately thinking of war?

>>21510473
It didn't actually turn into a 'circlejerk' the players have simply creating a character for their god (which is unnecessary but awesome nonetheless) it's actually really cool watching them collaborate and roleplay.

Drow civ quest died man, I posted a thread a week ago and only one person posted, my fault aswell since I screwed the pooch and missed my own schedule, since then I created a forum so I can update my players on the current schedule of threads.

>>21510525
>>21510538
Lets see their attitude before coming to any conclusions

>>21510545
Because /tg/ loves to kill things.

Rolled 25

>>21510550
Aww come on!
Why the heck does this keep happening with your civs?!
I loved each and every one of them. Especially the mountain machine men.
God dammit!

you should try again!

After several minutes of waiting you are finally approached by two men in White Riot Armor. (the armor has the snake helix symbol on its helemt and on a badge on the chest, over the heart) They both have a large holster slung across their back and a large holster on their hip. Both holsters contain what appear to be high caliber weapons. They stare at the CTF team silently for a few minutes until one speaks, he sounds uncomfortable.

"What do you want?"

CTF chied Julius Shmidt makes it clear that he wishes to discuss trade opportuinities and information exchange, after the pair stare at your men for five seconds (judging from their motions they're checking helmet radio sets) they begin to speak.

"Standard protocol allows three of you inside. You may not keep your weapons. We'll leave a hostage with you to ensure our good behaviour. You may not negotiate these terms, but you are guaranteed at least an hour's conversation with someone in a position to make decisions. How would you like to procede?"

Well?

Rolled 32

>>21510608
Sure.
I do not think they will try anything bad, we are a formidable force and they wouldn't want us as enemies.

Though our dudes should have constant connection to us through radios or bodymounted cameras

>>21510608
Do it.

>>21510608
Those terms are acceptable, though if we can make sure that they send someone reasonably important as hostage.

Make sure that the diplomat is among the three that go in.

>>21510608
Sounds reasonable as they have been attack before and they must have not met anyone who wasn't hopped up on drugs for awhile.

Rolled 2

>>21510550
>>21510606

And tell me about your forum.

You should use a twitter account for updates and quest information. All the cool quest runners are doing it.

>>21510608
I agree, as long as we can keep in contact with the team.

Rolled 42

>>21510608
Sounds good, as long as we're not hostile.

>>21510608
((Back for a bit at least))

It's a risk, but not only to us. I suppose I consent to these terms.

Because of the nature of paranoia and the possible types of research they are implied to deal in, I would suggest anyone entering their complex be briefly quarantined before reentering the GF Tower.

>>21510608
It's fine so long as everyone has radios, yes.

Send the diplomat, obviously, and a couple of guards.

>>21510665
Their most likely, bioresearchers or mad scientist geneticists types.

>>21510665
This is not a bad idea.

>>21510657
http://fourthhaven.forumotion.com/

There's the link.

>>21510689
Too bad the mountain machine men died. Really liked that as well.


Also PostNuclearNerd, just found this thread, looks neat so far. How often and at which times do you start, if I may ask?

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Chief Julius Shmidt Agrees to the Men In White's terms. They commune with whoever it is they're talking to and within 5 minutes a portly man wearing a pair of round spectacles leaves the building. He's wearing a white jumpsuit withe snake helix symbol on it's breast pocket. He introduces himself as Jonathan Brown and hopes that everyon can come to a civilised agreement. With that your diplomat and two guards are disarmed and escorted into the structure.

It's a fairly standard office building, except that the lobby looks like a warzone, there are craters from explosions in the floor, bullet holes, what can only be described as laser burns and no less than four LMGs have been set up to guard the entrance. While there were eight entrances and to the lobby all but one have been barricaded shut. Your guards lead the team down a long hall way and they pass through several security checkpoints before being escorted to an elevator. Your people are blindfolded.

continued

>>21510714
So far sounds like what we'd do.

Rolled 6

>>21510689
Yeaaa man, you really should use twitter instead for announcements. Seriously, lots of quest player and runners use it. Its much easier when you have a place to check up on several quests at once.

Some people have it against twitter on principle, I used to be that way too. It is still a confusing mess to me, to be honest.

>>21510735
Nah, we'd meet them at the gates.

What do people think we want, assuming these people don't immediately strike us as needing to be wiped off the face of the earth?

Radio exchange, diplomatic contact, trade and information can't be everything we can think of. Possibly a corporate merger.

Rolled 82

>>21510748
A corporate merger? I'd roll for it.

[a few times a week, usually at noon to late afternoon.]

Several floors later your people are escorted out of the elevator and into a dim hallway. So far they haven't seen much in the way of people, just guards in white riot armor and a few men and women in white jumpsuits. After a few minutes they're led to a door labeled "DR. NICHOLAUS BRENN." They're led into a large, sparesly furnished room. A man sits behind a desk observing a holographic screen projected by the machinery inside the desk. After getting a good look at his visitors he snaps his fingers and the screen disappears.

The man in question is in his early thirties, has short black hair, a goatee and a mild paunch. He sounds like he smokes 3 packs of cigarettes a day. Interestingly enough his eyes, from the iris to the cornea are bright blue. He gives a gracious smile and gestures at three old, but well maintained chairs. "Oh, come in, come in." He gestures at something only he can see. "Tandi get me some coffee. I have guests."


continued.

>>21510772
What time zone would that be? I suppose you're american? Sorry for interrupting again. I'm a yuropfag, so a clarification would help.

>>21510748
Merger? Jumping the gun a bit isn't it? I won't deny it might not have its charms, but even if it was a good thing to do don't you think that'd be a difficult sale to our people? For about two hundred years our tribe has been it. It's one thing to open the doors to new employment, but we might have local problems to work out with that sort of thing.

Rolled 24

>>21510809
Yeah, I agree.
don't even bring that shit up.

>>21510809
It's an eventual possibility, friend. I'm just saying, what does everyone else think we're possibly doing here?

A petite woman in a white jumpsuit brings in a tray of coffee and passes it around. Even your guards get a cup. They remove their gasmasks to sip at their drinks. It becomes quite clear that everyone in the room has bright, blue eyes.

After some small talk Dr Brenn gets right to the point. His people have been the subject of raids by "The Majesty" not once, but 3 times in their history. Apparently it started 50 years ago, so if you're with the majesty he strongly suggest you find an excuse to leave. James Rubel, the diplomat, makes it clear that you have no idea who The Majesty is.

It Turns out that The Majesty are the people in the Power Armor, and that they have a nasty habit of taking whatever they want, resources, technology, schematics, people. The Darwinians would be more than happy to trade for food, medicine, ammunition, weaponry, technology, and new recruits. (They're willing to pay top dollar for young junkies, the younger the better. Apparently you have the same recruiting methods.)

continued.

Rolled 92

>>21510839
Just meeting new people?
We want to know who they are, their history, what their goals are and what the fuck is up with those giant dogs and cats.

>>21510813
o.0

>>21510809
A merger would be better than going to war, I can tell you that much.

>>21510839
Truth told I'm not sure. Merger *is* a possibility, just wanted to make clear that I don't think it's something to speak of with them at this meeting.

>>21510849
>the Majesty

That so? Looks like stamping 'the final argument of kings' into our heavy weapons is going to get downright thematic.

>>21510876
It's obviously too early for anything like openly talking about it, yes. I'm talking long term, what's within the scope of the interaction with a bunch of other corporate survivalists with some modern standards left in them?

>>21510881
Ha! Forgot about that motion.

Rolled 11

>>21510849
>The Darwinians would be more than happy to trade for food, medicine, ammunition, weaponry, technology, and new recruits.

What can they offer for us though?

[yeah, amerikunt, central time zone to be exact. nothing wrong with asking questions.]

After that bit of unpleasantness is out of the way Rubel gets to asking just what Dr. Brenn and his people could provide Fabrique Generale with.

Dr. Brenn states that his people have developed a series of detox drugs to clean out the junkies systems and an education program that turns them into useful workers. A few have even managed to make it into management positions in The Darwin Labs. They also have a variety of controlled mutation therapy treatments that can make a person, tougher, faster, or more alert. (the blue eyes are indicative of a mutation therapy that increases resistance to disease and other contaminants) They can also clone organs and know of a variety of advanced surgical and pharmacuetical methods that can be used to treat and cure some pretty horrific diseases and medical conditions.

Okay those are their trade goods. Whtcha want?

>>21510940
Can they teach us how they do it?

>>21510940
Could they tell us more about the Majesty and what we may be going up against?

Rolled 81

>>21510940
>They also have a variety of controlled mutation therapy treatments that can make a person, tougher, faster, or more alert.

This seems awesome. Our security forces would benefit.

>They can also clone organs and know of a variety of advanced surgical and pharmacuetical methods that can be used to treat and cure some pretty horrific diseases and medical conditions.
Do we have people with diseases that we cannot cure? Cancer perhaps? Then we could send them here for treatment.

Ask them about giant dogs and cats.

>>21510940
Ask about the animals they've been capturing.

>>21510967
I imagine they'd be tight-lipped on the exacts of the matter. Just like we'd be tight-lipped on the extent of our facilities and capabilities.

>>21510940
First, we want to offer them a two-way line of communication via radio, at the very least.

Second, we want to offer assistance in improving their fortifications and anti-aircraft defenses in exchange for various things including their howitzer's specs and the improved detox and education procedures.

Third, we want to know about Geddonite and the mutated animals.

>>21510940
I'd say with this information, we're ready to start talking numbers, ask them what kind of ratios they are looking for.

>>21510940
Okay, cross employee training programs are big on my list of priorities. Like internships at each other's bases, but post-apocalyptic.

We probably have better weaponry, or will have it soon, and are rather efficient at salvaging so we can even provide raw materials if they make it worth our while. We can provide protection as well.

Our manufacturing abilities probably are far better than theirs when it comes to weapons so we can take care of ammo needs.

The beneficial mutations would be great on our security teams. And being able to fix up our guys if they get hurt beyond what we can deal with would be really helpful.

They can improve on our detox drugs and we can swap notes on junkie rehabilitation.

>>21510899
A corporate merger is possible but you're gonna need to be real motherfuckin' cozy with these guys before they consider doing something like that.

>>21511001
>>21510987
>>21510973
>>21510978
Seconding, though we're going to likely earn their trust for organ replacements and mutations and etc.

>>21510940
Cool. Might be a little late for me but I will try to drop in for the next threads. This looks promising so far.

For now, though good night and have fun, all of you.

>>21510940
damn I wanna merge with them combine that tech with our tech the result would be holy shit level results. Problem we can't really offer them much other food and spare parts I can't think of anything. hm ask if they would be interested in exchanging members of our groups basicly interners roughly. after a set period of time the interns will be exchanged safe and healthy. After the swap old interns have the option of moving over to the other group permenantly if they so desire.

>>21511056
We could offer them some of our gun rovers. We are a robotics company at heart.

Rolled 44

>>21511012
>>21511056
>>21511072

I am all for merger but that should come after a lengthy friendly relationship.

The giant animals in the area are escaped experiments. They were let loose around 50 years ago when The Majesty first moved into the area and broke into Darwin Research Labs. They still serve as pretty good research subjects, though rats or condemned criminals (rapists, murderers, child molestors etc. etc.) serve as better test subjects.

Also they've gotten pretty good at training the modified animals to do things and they serve as excellent attack animals.

They are unwilling to share certain kinds of information on the majesty, aside from the fact that use power armor, helicopters, conventional firearms and explosives of various kinds, and they occasionly field heavy laser weapons.

>>21511056
>>21511072
We can offer them the security we have built for ourselves peicemeal, until our tech levels are comparable but our industrial production vastly outshines theirs.

At that point, there will be less and less reason not to band together so long as our interests align.

However, we should find out more about their culture before we go very far down that road.

>>21511090
Okay, what can they tell us about geddonite or how the Majesty power their power armor? Bearing in mind that this might lead to supplies of power armor for them down the road.

Rolled 63

>>21511090
What is their weapon and armor situation. We could provide them with some.

Also, we might offer to build AA-turrets on their tower against Majesty's helicopters.

Maybe we can exchange technology? Our robotics for their genetic enchantment of humans?

>>21511128
I did suggest trading our AA gun tech for their howitzer tech.

you're gonna need to be in like flynn with these guys for at least a year before a merger is possible. That said do you want to build a stable business relationship with them? Putting, for instance, a small consulate inside their building, attended by a group of guards and some administration types? (radio, trade good examples, etc. etc.)

If so, they want 500 assault rifles, 500 SMGs, 500 shotguns, and One Million rounds for each weapon type. In exchange they're willing to provide you with war animals and custom mutation therapy as well as some medical expertise. (The custom mutation therapy would allow you to create 6 elite squads of security troopers, their asking price would use up your current reserves of supplies but it's nothing you can't replace with another gathering expedition.)

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>>21511140
>and custom mutation therapy as well as some medical expertise. (The custom mutation therapy would allow you to create 6 elite squads of security troopers

Are they doing this for all of our security forces?
And would the price be lower in the future?

Is there any technology that we do not have they would be willing to teach us?


I'd like more information about Majesty though. Did they just come, without saying anything and just started shooting up the place? Or did they try to be diplomatic first? How many people have they lost during the raids (both sides)

>>21511128
at the moment they're unwilling to discuss their armor and weapon status but it's pretty clear that they're low on personel. In all likelyhood the majesty raids have forced them to sacrifice quantity for quality when it comes to arms and armor. Each suit of riot armor looks a little different for instance, as if it were hand made.

They do want more weapons and armor, but they're unwilling to trade any of their medical technology at the moment. Obviously they don't trust you enough for that.

They don't know anything about The Majesty's power armor or their power supply, just that they can shrug off high caliber bullets and explosions and that they have a self destruct funtion that activates on user death.

>>21511180
Idea
Get in good with them, get them to like us and have us supply the majority of their defense force, then just simply gank them and take their tech

>>21511140
This seems solid, though I wouldn't mind getting more if possible.

I do want a stable relationship with them.

Does it seem like they would be amenable to a employee swap, where we each borrow some of each other's junior employees and intern them some?

See if we can swing having a consulate in their place and offer one for them in our location.

Does them offering medical expertise include the improved detox drugs?

Rolled 16

>>21511180
Is our armor better than theirs, at least by visual glance?

Okay, we should agree with the trade. Maybe negotiate for better prices (we are a corporation after all, this is expected of us). I'd like to secure future genetic enchantments at much lower price. We are going to have more people in future after all.

>>21511203
eh, lets not, we are going resort to violence only as the last means. These guys seem okay.

>>21511179
The Majesty take what they want, when they want, how they want. Apparently they've poached a lot of the Darwin Researcher's best and brightest. Judging from their side of the story the Majesty demanhing, and if they aren't given it, they get violent.

They are offering the Mutation Therapy for everyone in your organization, the initial fee just covers six squads of soldiers however. You can buy more treatments later and they will be chr (part of the cost covers medical fees, fees for setting up a permanent residence in the tower... stuff like that.)

>>21511140
Their asking price might give us an idea on their numbers. I imagine that, if their info's mostly on the level, there are rather more of them then there are of us.

>>21511128
>Maybe we can exchange technology? Our robotics for their genetic enchantment of humans?

Tech exchange is a very troublesome idea, and not to be rushed into. Our robotics and industrial capabilities are probably the heart of our advantage over our competitors after all.

>>21511180
We should go through with the initial trade, though they need war animals more now than we do so if they can give us a supply of advanced rehabilitation drugs and educational materials instead of giant rats, that works for me.

Thoughts?

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>>21509525
>Walk-capable tanks - The tank is the king of the open plain, but we're inside a 250-mile-wide radius of wreckage and other cities could be similar ruins. We'll need to develop a suspension that is capable of raising the tank from the ground enough to get over obstacles, but not enough to make it an easily visible target - probably something with six legs. However, regardless of the utility of such suspensions they would likely be slower and less efficient than rolling caterpillar suspension systems; as such we should give it the ability to lower itself back onto treads.


STINGRAY BEYOTCHHHHH

Rolled 44

We could also offer them our non-lethal weapons. Since they recruit new people similarly to us, it would be beneficial for them.
If we truly want to make the city a better place, we cannot be greedy about that. We cannot capture and rehabilitate ALL the junkies at once, many are going to die because we didn't get to them. If these guys do the same as we, then together we will save more people and restore order and civilization faster.

>>21511220
Eh, same quality as your own riot armor at first glance. They also look like they're using high caliber scoped rifles and high caliber automatic pistols.

Oh, and yeah you can by cheaper genemods later, at the moment you're entering a contract so there's a steep entrance fee.

>>21511203
Civilized, friendly people are rare just now, so no raider bullshit. Plus if it fails we just lose people. The price is too high.

>>21511238
We really don't need large animals that much since our drones serve the same purpose and don't need to be fed at all.

>>21511238
We absolutely should haggle for better margins on the trade, if we accept it. Maybe not much better, but do we want to set an image that we'll simply acquiesce with the first offer?

>>21511269
I second this. By the way, you might want to remove the diceroll from your email line in case yu roll low unintentionally and it hits us hard.

>>21511203
We've already destroyed the Vice kings because of this, we do not need to degrade to such a level.

>>21511287
The margins are in tech exchange, not war materiel.

Throwing the tesle tech into the offer drops the price to about 250 Assault rifles, 25o SMGs, 500 shotguns, 50000 rounds for each weapon, and 100000 taser rounds for various taser style devices.

Same resource drain really.

Rolled 38

>>21511238
They can be meatshields just like our rovers. Nothing wrong with getting bigger army force. Besides, our security will love to have personal pets each.

>>21511287
Yeah, we need to haggle (politely) if only for our face's sake.

>>21511271
Lets throw in our non-lethal weapons in the mix too.

>>21511269
Well some of us are a little more interested in what makes things better for us in the collective sense than for others. That said much of the time that goal coincides with making Light City better.

I also concur with countering some of the price with the non-lethal equipment.

>>21511311
Might as well take it at this point.

>>21511312
I'm not saying never, I'm saying 'later than now.' Probably after we've built pens for the things.

>>21511311
>>21511335
Yes, do it.

>>21511312
Animals have their uses but it will require us to further spread our resources/manpower/training in care of them. This seems like a project for further down the line.

>>21511342
>>21511338
I also concur with the deal excluding the large animals, we'll need a few base facilities and the need to grow food for them due to their size.

Rolled 45

>>21511311
I'm fine with this.

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>>21509525
I always liked these guys from the flashback episodes of SAC. (kind of a lousy picture of them.) Walker tanks that walk on legs with caterpillar treads.

>>21511338
Speaking of 'later than now', it seems to me like we may be slowly entering a position where we can take control intra-city communication and trade. This would put our presence at both Darwin Labs and the Parish, in addition to our own Tower. Furthermore we have an undeniable ability to clear streets.

>>21511356
Nice in theory, but a secondary set of legs is more redundant and therefore probably better. If the caterpillars are also your ambulatory legs, a failure in one system may more rapidly immobilize the other.

Dr. Brenn shakes hands with each of your people after having them sign a contract to the effect of promising the aforementioned items in exchange for gene therapy, promised medical treatment, and cheaper prices on future gene modifications. (also a guarantee of the effectiveness and safety of the gene modifications or your next of kin will be well compensated) With that said your people are escorted out of the building, the hostage is returned and your people return to The Tower.

the weapons and schematics for Taser Tech are produced and brought over the Darwin research labs. The contract is considered in effect. Several administrators are chosen and placed in a guarded apartment on the higher levels of the sky scraper. They have a radio on hand at all times.

continued.

>>21511389
Very good then, next order of buisness is research and recruitment!

Hm. We need heavier duty gear. Why?

Because we are becoming a large target towards Majesty.

>>21511440
Actually I've got a plan for that. When they do come around, we had a few bits and pieces to some simple gun rovers to keep them occopied, but really the gun drones would have a simple program that turns the gun drone into a spy drone.

Okay there's three currently available genetic modifications.

Note that all Gene Mods increase life expectency by 100+ years.

the "Toughness Mod"
+Makes your skin Tougher (You can take a combat knife or sword in your bare hands but a bullet will still cause damage)
+You're effectively immune to Disease and RadiationYou can eat just about anything.
+You have an insane pain threshold.
-Your eyes are bright blue now.

There's the "Brawler Mod"
+You're a lot bigger and stronger. (Like Tiger level strength in a human frame) so you can use much heavier weapons than anormal human. Oh, and needless to say you do a lot of damage in CQC.
-You grow to be about 8 feet tall and you're freakishly muscled...like Rob Liefeld muscled.
-Creepy red eyes.

The "Agility Mod."
+You have greater visual acuity, like hawk level eyesight.
+You have incredible hand eye coordination, even without training or talent you're a damn good sniper.
-You have bright yellow eyes

You can mix 2 mods in one group of people, but not all 3.

>>21511389
I remind the board of temporary quarantine. Brenn specifically touched each of our people. It hurts little to be a *little* paranoid.

Rolled 96

>>21511440
Yeah, I agree.

Focus on new weapons, anti-tank rifles, rocket launchers, etc. Offense always outperforms defense.

>>21511389
We should go capture and recruit junkies now. This means that we taze and bag whoever runs if we want, but we also g around with a public address system offering them a better life, with volunteers from our own recruit groups along to verify that they won't be slaughtered or whatever.

We should also comb the ruins for abandoned children, they'll be a long-term boon.

Do the Darwinians want to trade AA guns for their howitzer design?

>>21511440
I've been saying this forever, glad to see other people coming around to this point of view.

>>21511479
oh, and you have enough credit for 6 modifications. Soiyou can put 2 modifications on 3 groups or 6 modifications on 6 groups. Feel free to ask questions.

>>21511472
We don't need to spy on the Majesty, we need to wihstand their assaults and be able to harm them. None of our current arms or armor come close.

Rolled 68

>>21511479
I say we do Toughness + Agility for 3 super elite groups.

Advanced weapons kinda make Brawler obsolete. Besides, we want to make power-armors at one point anyway, so we'd have the strength anyway.

>>21511479
Toughness and Agility please. Green eyes ho!

>>21511479
Toughness, agility, and power armor will make very good troopers and somewhat obviate the need for the brawler mod package.

>>21511496
>>21511511
I want some good snipers

>>21511493
at the moment no, though they would like you to callthem back on that in a few weeks.

>>21511518
2 mods on 3 groups also.

>>21511519
>>21511518
>>21511511
Why don't we just go straight agility? We won't need Toughness with Power Armor.

Rolled 63

>>21511479
Agility and Toughness sounds good.

>>21511496
Okay. Let's get 1 Agility Mod for a dedicated sniper squad.

One Toughness for good solid troops.

1 Toughness/Brawler squad to make a invincible spearhead shock trooper brigade.

1 Toughness/Agility for special forces, tough enough to get anywhere and then blow heads off.

>>21511511
Imagine a Brawler in Powered Armor. Imagine it.

Rolled 82

>>21511493

I agree on recruitment run. Every turn we spend neglecting this means that they die out.

We might want work together with our new allies for better efficiency.

So it's basically toughness and agility the "Steve Rogers Special?"

anyone dislike this idea?

>>21511531
Power armor can still fail, rations can run out, diseases can be caught if the seals break.

>>21511490
We have a population bottleneck. We need much better personal defenses.

>>21511533
>brawler in power armor
I see you one and raise you an agile pilot in a mech.

>>21511542
I vote 6 teams of Agility.
More special soldiers, Power Armor makes the other two pointless.

Rolled 25

>>21511542
>anyone dislike this idea?

Nope. Lets do this.

How much would it cost for future gene-mods? We'd like to upgrade all of our forces at some point.

>>21511559
We don't have power armor yet.

>>21511533
To be fair a brawler in power armor would be stronger than a brawler out of power armor.

however there is strength cap, the suits would normally grant a person a brawler's strength so you'd have someone stronger than a brawler but not strong enough to lift a tank.

>>21511518
I concur. The 'Brawler' package has its uses, but in general these would be of more interest for our forces.

Don't forget the Geddonite Battery formation, and our conjecture on using its surrounds for a Geddonite testing lab.
Don't forget the second wall.
Also don't forget we've never surveyed nor secured the tunnels.
Not saying what we should *do* with these yet, but don't discount their importance.

With that said, Scruffy's got some quality hammock time coming.

((Going to bed. Have a good night!))

>>21511584
later dude

Rolled 8

Personally, I don't think we should focus on power-armor but on robotics and AI. This is our specialty after all. We probably get bonuses in these researches.
We'd make powerful combat robots outperforming normal humans with power armor and gene-mods. And they would be disposable too.

>>21511559
>>21511548
>>21511571
Agility would make for better piloting skills.

Agility would just give you excellent snipers, which is useful in uits own right I suppose but you've basically been using slight;ly retooled assault rifles as assault rifles so it wouldn't be much help with your personal weaponry situation as is.

>>21511612
sounds like its time for a tech advancement

>>21511607
Mans got a point, don't fight the majesty on their playing field, we'll make them fight on ours, and ours comes with loads of angry metallic friends.

>>21511584
Good Night scruffy.

>>21511612
*slightly retool sniper rifles

damn typos...

basically take an assault rifle, lengthen the barrel, mess with the internal mechanisms, give it a stronger than normal ammo load out, and give it a scope. That's your "sniper rifle" your snipers have a fondness for semi auto fire. They call it Triple Tapping.

>>21511607
Agreed, but with one point of contention.

Our robotics are hardly disposable. We must conserve our resources.

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>>21511612
In general this is what we're going to be doing for the next bit

>>21511607
The technology involved in creating power armor is of extreme utility elsewhere; everything but the manufactured suits themselves would be cross-applicable - though with interchangeable parts between the suits and other tech this could be minimized to some extent.

>>21511631
If we do not provide good armor to our people, we will never really be up to par. We don't know their mechanization capabilities. It would be unwise to assume we can avoid infantry combat in all scenarios, let's make our infantry harder hitters and harder to kill.

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So, we recruit this week right? And we ask if the Darwinians want to trade howitzer tech for AA emplacements?

Pic related - probably somewhat like the Majesty pa suits, note the crown.

Rolled 5

>>21511693
>Our robotics are hardly disposable. We must conserve our resources.

By that I meant that a destroyed robot can be rebuild or repaired. You cannot bring back a dead person. Also, each dead person is a hit on morale, they have their families and whatnot and they will be sad forever. Dead robot is just a broken tool (unless we're going to get sentient AI or something).

>>21511722
Absolutely.

If we develop powered armor, then we only need to develop an AI to place in it, and voila, a robotic army. Currently, however, it is in our best interests to equip our men well until they can resign from combat duties.

Even after the creation of such forces, I believe that a power-armored security force could be quite a valuable asset.

>>21511742
Fair enough. I would still advise caution in our use of robotic warfare.

>>21511739
The suits are about 7 feet tall, have a power pack, usually carry HMGs or overgrown shotguns and sometimes have a bulky weapon that's plugged into their backpack.

They have more of a chess motif, in both iconography, and detailing if I'm to be perfectly honest. So only commanders get crowns. Good initiative though.

Rolled 82

>>21511722
if no power-armor means a murderbot for each pa we could have had, it's a good trade, don't you think?

>The technology involved in creating power armor is of extreme utility elsewhere; everything but the manufactured suits themselves would be cross-applicable - though with interchangeable parts between the suits and other tech this could be minimized to some extent.
That depends how OP rules it. Would be kinda cheating if getting PA would mean that we also get improved in other fields such as robotics.

>>21511739
Yes, lets sweep the streets for junkies and such. I suggest again that we work together with Darwians on this.

>>21511742
Note that so far your AI is very simple, so at the current level, even if you did develop robot tanks, you'd still need feet on the ground to command them and make them effective.

You'll only ever be able to phase humans out of the equation ntirely if you develop sapient AI and that brings up its own issues.

You can however minimize the people needed on the ground by improving AI and weapons efficiency.

>>21511796
actually developing power armor would put you one step off from developing humanoid robots. You'd just need to develop a mass production facility for humanoid robots. Would be pretty expensive to make an army of humanoid robots.

anyway I need consensus. What kind of gene mods are you buying?

Hawkeye Sextet or Steve Rogers Trio?

Rolled 46

>>21511845
I thought we agreed on toughness + agility mods.

Okay, if you say so. Then we could first develop PA and then robots and AI

>>21511767
>>21511742
>>21511782
Until we have loyal, reliable, and tactically viable standalone AI, you can forget about using robots without people involved to a pretty extensive degree. This likely includes the front lines, even if it means a ratio of one man to ten machines/per unit. And then there's the maintenance work.

>>21511796
Cheating? Because our technology is useful in more than one place? Is it cheating to use the computer circuits in your phone as well as the ones in your PC? Psh, the power armor components are nearly all related directly to robotics and the antiballistic elements are obviously applicable. The power generator or battery is OBVIOUSLY cross-applicable.

And yes, we can work with the Darwinians.

>>21511863
Though we should probably expand our weapons a bit more first. Get some actual sniper rifles, some heavy machine guns, better rocket launchers. We're managing with just a lot of assault rifles, but we should improve that some.

>>21511863
>>21511845
We seem as close to a consensus as we'll get on this - toughness + agility.

>>21511900
Our assault rifles, etc are working fine. It's the casualty rate and lack of aerial vehicles that's hamstringing us, really - we need power armor and aircraft.

Cross applicable tech is cross applicable tech, a battery is a battery, a manipulator is a manipulator. Using you knowledge of power armor antiballistics make I dunno... Beteamng is bullshit though. Apply basic logic to tech advances and we should be fine.

Okay you have 3 squads of 6, very tough, very agile men and women. moving on to next week.

>>21511927
Well for the powered armor we're going to have to develop some bigger arms to actually make full use of them.

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Rolled 64

This is what we need to develop along with AP ammunition and we're set against Majesty. We'll mount them on rovers if our forces are too weak to wield them.

>>21511978
>AP ammunition
Why not incendiary?

Week 22:
Population: 277
Technology: Robotics, Basic AI, Automation, Comms, Explosives. Basic Anti Ballistics, Taser Weaponry, Firearms, Hydroponics.
Weapons: AntiAir Guns, Assault Rifles, SMGs, Shotguns, Semi Auto Pistols, Revolvers, Combat Knives. Tasers. Grenades, RPG Launchers.
Armor: AntiBallistic Vests, Riot Armor
Soldiers: Gun Rovers, Security Guards, 2 armored WreckingRovers. 3 Tgh+Agl Squads.
Defenses: Exclusion Zone, Exclusion Zone Wall.
Cool Stuff: HoloCenotaph
Contacts:
The Parish: Allied
D.B.R.L.: Allied

A: Explore
B: Scavenge For Supplies
C; Construct Something New
D: Research New Technology
E: Make a Suggestion.

Okay so far your Assault Rifle Sniper variants are working just fine, what they lack in stopping power they make up for by triple tapping. (3 high caliber bullets to roughly the same area, think about it.)

The Darwinians are more than happy to coordinate with your "Catch a Junkie" efforts and state that you should focus on children and females.

Roll up if you have consensus.

Rolled 76

>>21512001
AP is probably better against power armor, right?

Rolled 3

>>21512005
I am in agreement.

Rolled 9

>>21512005
We're going to coordinate with Darwians on catching as many junkies and rehabilitating them as possible.

>>21511974
That won't be difficult, basically we can just scale up the weapons we already have.

Rolled 91

>>21512005
>The Darwinians are more than happy to coordinate with your "Catch a Junkie" efforts and state that you should focus on children and females.
>
>Roll up if you have consensus.


Lets do this

>>21512001
how would fire help against armor made to shrug off grenades and high caliber bullets?

>>21512005
I concur. But we will need to work on our technolgy if we're going to stand any chance against the Majesty.

Rolled 65

>>21512005
Next week - Geddonite power/superconductor/battery research?

Possible weapons application - power for lasers.

>>21512049
I'll agree with this, then the week after that if anything doesn't go bad, we should scalvage. Then do more research.

Rolled 20

>>21512049
Id' suggest we develop Anti-tank rifles and produce them in case Majesty comes knocking at our doors.
I doubt their armor can stand against weapons designed to KILL TANKS

>>21512039
In the case of incendiary bullets, it wouldn't.

However, incendiary weapons are highly effective against armored targets.

In the Finnish Winter War they used molotov cocktails (That was actually the war where they were named) against tanks with great effect. The sealed air inside the tanks would get very hot through the heat conductive metal and the people inside would basically boil to death in the air around them.

So incendiary weapons, yes.
Incendiary bullets? No, not enough heat or a long enough burn duration.

>>21512070
That makes more sense actually, then the Geddonite should be next.

You set out early morning with a force of men and women in white riot armor. Your CTF teams are armed with Taser weaponry and some lethal weapons just in case. You prove to be extremely successful in your hunt for new recruits, in part to the simple fact that you're recognized as a major power in Light City.

Many of the Junkies run towards you and beg you to let them join, they even help you capture the more reticent ruin dwellers. By the time the hunt ends you've bagged 191 junkies.

Rolled 89

>>21512005
concur

>>21512081
Well, let's get to detoxing and indoctrinating them, then!

Rolled 79

>>21512070
Anti-tank rifles are an older and weaker classification. We'll want anti-material rifles. However, we won't get anywhere if they can kill us from the are much more easily than we can kill them.

they could very easily lift a bomb into the cloud layer over the tower with a chopper, fly in over our detection range, and drop it right on us.

>>21512081
Damn, that's a lot of junkies. How are we splitting it? 60/40 in our favor as we provided more manpower and tasers?

>>21512098
>from the are
Air, even.

>>21512096
We automatically do this per OP's earlier statement.

Let's get researching, ffs.

Rolled 5

>>21512106
What about a 50/50 split instead?

Rolled 90

>>21512081
>By the time the hunt ends you've bagged 191 junkies.

Total, between Darwinas and us, or just us?
If the first, then we split them.

If not, then standard procedure like always

>>21512124
Why would you want to go down from 60% to 50%?

Rolled 63

>>21512134
First, that is too much junkies for us to handle.
Second, it will show that we see them as equals and would be good for our relationship.

Week 22:
Population: 357 (Next Turn: 437)
Technology: Robotics, Basic AI, Automation, Comms, Explosives. Basic Anti Ballistics, Taser Weaponry, Firearms, Hydroponics.
Weapons: AntiAir Guns, Assault Rifles, SMGs, Shotguns, Semi Auto Pistols, Revolvers, Combat Knives. Tasers. Grenades, RPG Launchers.
Armor: AntiBallistic Vests, Riot Armor
Soldiers: Gun Rovers, Security Guards, 2 armored WreckingRovers. 3 Tgh+Agl Squads.
Defenses: Exclusion Zone, Exclusion Zone Wall.
Cool Stuff: HoloCenotaph
Contacts:
The Parish: Allied
D.B.R.L.: Allied

Prisoners: 111 (Next Turn: 31)

A: Explore
B: Scavenge For Supplies
C; Construct Something New
D: Research New Technology
E: Make a Suggestion.

Once the withdrawl, VD, and other ailments that best the junkies are cleared away they prove quite receptive to new ideas and education. Your labor pool grows with each week as former savages step onto the path of education and enlightenment.