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Holy hell I just got done reading the archives for this half a minute ago.

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Rolled 6, 2, 1 = 9

Favorite time of the week~

Hey guys I'm wondering this. Did our nation ever figure out how to build those long range weapons that was used on them so many threads back?

Hey y'all. Gonna partake for a while tonight.

> Good to see you all ready to roll. Let's do this!

Turn Report

Population: 391 (161 elders and children)
Food: 6/15
Morale: 7/15

Known Food Sources: Depleted deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liqueur, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets

Moon 8

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river

>>21461486
Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Gather wild food in the forest
E) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
F) Hold a cultural event (specify)
G) Craft specific objects
H) Send envoys to another tribe
I) Other
J) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

> ALSO! There seems to be some confusion of late about just how certain things may work, like research and creating magical items. You can feel free to ask any mechanical questions and I'll answer them promptly.

Here just in time.

>>21461509
H) Another time completing the expansion of the fields, also inform those guys if they keep being dicks they will be stripped of their fieldness.
F) Construct tools to work stone, out of Bronze. However if this is not an option I say fully tend to the new animal enclosures and begging working out a system of how to collect eggs and what not.
G) Send an envoy down river to that tribe with the single chieftain. Pile them up with gifts so that we can trade for both information and goods.

Rolled 5, 2, 1 = 8

>>21461531

Seconding this.

>>21461531

thirding

>>21461531
Also, just so we have it clear, we are heading down river to talk about their harvest god and possibly build a temple to him/her in our city. Also to trade technology, such as the knowledge of how to construct bronze. I want to spread that knowledge as far as possible so that really powerful tribe by the sea has their power base crumble. We need to inform the chieftain however the must keep it a secret so as we can bleed more information from the sea tribe.

Besides that we'll see if they have any herb lore, or plants we could add to our field (At the moment w shave grain, wild carrots, some kind of tuber, and wild onions I believe... oh and some kind of herb Nettles I think). Do you guys think they have anything else we should try and barter for?

>>21461642
I would rather keep bronze age to ourselfs. That way we have a good advantage if a war breaks out.

Rolled 6, 4, 4 = 14

>>21461708
Bronze Age isn't to ourselves, the city state on the coast has it, the only reason we got it is because they loaned us a smith.

>>21461708
I think it is more prudent to lessen the strength of the really powerful tribe. If it comes to war the sea tribe will certainly use the single chieftain tribe to fight us (they already have strong ties). We need to plants seed of distrust between the two.

Giving the single chieftain bronze is the first step, the traders will be angered that we gave it to them so cheaply when they could have sold it. We need to strengthen our relationship with them for now. If it is just the single chieftain tribe who attacks we have the Lion Lords and the River Brothers at our side. It will be 3 against 1.

>>21461728
Also, next turn I am putting forth some different ideas of the route we could take.

We either need to improve our carpentry or gather stone and go for learning masonry. Also digging a well might be a good idea in case the river ever becomes undrinkable (some kind of poisoning or what not). Also, once the field is good we need to expand the animal enclosures (At the moment we have ground fowls in there and some kind of rabbit I believe) and also go and capture some deer to put in that big old pen we made way back when (if I remember correctly we did finish it).

Lets call the found fowl Rock Wobblers.

>>21461781
We might want to get closer ties to the bronze smith. There is also the problem of wolfsbane starting to favor the river brothers.

>>21461509
Howdy all, glad to see no wars started in the time it took me to recover from the hurricane. Anyway, I say it's about time we at least get a chief. I understand, and am willing to support the family system, but the disobedience of the farming family just serves as an example of how we need a strong single voice to make the different communities fall in line. We need a leader to bring order, or things could get worse.

>>21461869
apologies, that me by the way.

>>21461858
Good idea, increased ties with the smith. Give me a reason to want to stay with our tribe. Do we have any eligible women in our tribe we could use to tempt him?

As for Tyrm, we're one tribe now. It doesn't matter who he favors as we are a single nation, though I must say I am slightly concerned. Possible we could barter for the child and his family spending time in our tribe after the kid is born.

>>21461869
But we mustn't fall into a system like that tribe down river where a single man controls everything. Remember how disappointed the sea tribe was when they heard we were a council. Though it has some draw backs it is far harder to corrupt and buy a council than it is a single man.

Oh shit, I almost forgot, there is something we need to do this winter. Kihone needs to be brought into the tribe and given permanent residence with Mickey (Our resident sun priest, I gave him a nick name). She has proven to be unstable and has already caused a tribe to turn hostile against us. She needs to have Mickey around to be kept stable, and if we give them a wedding we'll probably have a demigod baby in another 9 months, which will be very useful.

>>21461905
I think they were less disappointed and more condescending. By the way, how did you guys not jump on how they gave awesome gifts to the other two tribes, and just gave us those rings, when they clearly had silver stashed away with them. Trym saw it himself! These people think we're goddamn rubes, simpletons, idiots! I don't mean to come off as pushy, but we can't have these people underestimating us, that could lead to them trying to subjugate us. I'm already EXTREMELY uncomfortable with them using our citizens to pay off a debt, I shudder to think what may happen next. We need to come off as as powerful as we are. True, they may beat us in some areas, but surely we excel in some area, something with can hold over them.

And as for the one leader tribe down river, did we see how happy the people were with his leadership? How he became leader in the first place? I'm not saying he may have come into it fairly, I'm honestly asking if we know enough about the history of this tribe to start calling them an authoritarian dictatorship.

Yeah I'm thinking we should get some more warriors while trying to see if we can get the bronze smith to get good ties with us.

We need a good miltary we might want to get them trained well.

>>21462068
I don't think they are underestimating us, they are afraid of giving us too much. They must have heard from the other tribes how we are basically the local power house, they don't want to give us too much.

Also, that's another thing. In a few months time we will send ten citizens down river to them and ask that they return ten of our workers back to us.

Also, what we excel in is our god strength, that's the only way we can fight on an equal playing field at them honestly. We'll need the god's strength to empower ourselves, until we can find a way to increase our strength to meet theirs.

One last thing, the people did not seem happy when we went. From what I say it seemed like people were afraid to say no to him.

>>21461531
Also Britfag, we aren't arguing over what to do this turn, just general arguing. So you can write up the turn report if ya want. :D

See, I'm not even killing your gods; I'm being nice today.

>>21462121
So you think like me that we should get more favor from the gods? Personally I would say we need to get our miltary organized and get us some bronze shelds.

>>21462121
I don't think they actually knew about us, they just kinda seemed to happen on us. Or maybe the one man tribe downriver told them we met, but I don't think he'd have heard of our power. By the by- still haven't gone back there to learn what we can, and possibly trade. I know it's a sore subject for you, but consider it.

>>21462184
Didn't they say "Is this the villege of the man known as wolfsbane?" basicly at our front door?

>>21462169
Gods are the quickest and must unstable route to power, if we want to take the slow and steady route then military is the way to go.

>>21462184
I already voted this turn to go trade there. I have swallowed my dislike of them as I know none of you favor war and instead are going to bleed them dry of resources via other means. If I can't kill them then I must make them my own.

>>21462234
Yes I believe they did, they knew the name Wolfsbane. His name has traveled at least a bit.

>>21461642
Your current foods... It's getting pointless hiding what they are. You have oats planted in the fields and have recently discovered wild carrots, peas, nettles and bullrushes (seriously, bullrush roots are edible and high in carbs, fibre and protein.) There's been no mention of rabbits yet, but it's safe to assume the bastards are out there SOMEwhere; they get everywhere!

The tribe puts some real effort into expanding the fields this moon, clearing and tilling land and making sure that it's ready for planting in the spring. The family or farmers are extremely affronted to be disgraced in such a way and are exceptionally sullen for the rest of the moon.

The loan-smith from downriver agrees to make bronze tools, such as much be used for cutting stone, setting to work with a will. He is only one man, but by the end of the moon, he has managed to produce a number of bronze chisels and the like, that should be suitable for the task.

Rina is contacted again and sent downriver, though she is slightly resentful of it, claiming she seems to spend more time visiting people than tending to the needs of her goddess these days. She again urges the tribe to look into training some more translators.

What will the envoys take in the way of gifts?

>>21462234
Yea, just saw that, my bad, though still, I doubt they've heard we're powerful, it's possible the other tribe told them of us, and thought to come trade with us like they do that tribe, maybe see if they could use us.

>>21462243
War is on my mind as well. But we don't know anything about them. So I would agree with trading. On the other hand we need to build up our warriors, Get them organized and things like that.

If we don't grow at all we will get wiped out.

>>21462269
Yes! god, imagine what we can accomplish now. We could try writing on the clay tablets again, for instance.

>>21462269
I'm curious now, Britfag. Do or did you read up on stoneage cultures and everything that might be relevant to this thread? Do you just wing it and read up stuff as we go? How much did you prepare?

>>21462269
Also, could this problem with Rina possibly lead to schools? Have a wise one that is in charge of teaching the younger members of the tribe so they can help with translations, and possibly many other things.

>>21462324
I would like to second this motion for schools to be implemented in order to learn the cultures of other tribes.

We shall destroy them via Mantling. We shall walk as them til they walk as us.

>>21462324
Interesting idea. I would say we should get the idea to build something like a school. We also need to see if the priests and priestesses of our gods will take a successer.

>>21462364
Also we might want to say sorry to Rina for having to send her out so much and how we will make sure to give her some space once we get our translators done.

Proposition: We need to train dedicated diplomats who learn the languages of the other tribes. We cannot rely on the river priestess. That is not her job. If she is busy translating, she will not be able to work as effectively in her normal tasks.

Hey britfag, can we have our wolf priest back now? He should have learned SOMETHING awesome by this point, ja?

>>21462380
Agreed. If we have the students maybe help Rina and Chani, maybe she'll help teach them translation, or give them ideas about healing.

>>21462324
Organised schooling is very demanding resource-wise. We probably can't manage it at the moment. What we can do is set-up formalised apprenticeships.

>>21462269
Ok, next turn lets build a large building to begin teaching the young how to write. Who agrees with me?

>>21462392
I proposed on an earlier thread that a postal service might encourage at least the tribes allied with us to learn our language, grow accustomed to it's use, and maybe even adopt it.

>>21462269
Also, as for the gifts we send. We send with them part of our varied harvest this year. We also send some instruments, trinkets, rings we made, alcohol, some of our fine bows, and one of our bronze tools to prove we know the art.

Also send some wise ones so we can trade information as well.

>>21462413
Too ambitious. Start by teaching unusually clever people how to write. Primitive writing systems(like ours) are ridiculously complicated to learn. That's why scribes were a thing.

>>21462411
Well, while we are in need of some more food, wood isn't exactly hard to find. We could probably manage it, thought it'll maybe take more than one turn.

What we may want to do in regards to future trade is to build roads of some sort between the tribes. Even if all it amounted to was gradually felling the trees in a straight line to the other tribes it would greatly accelerate communications.

>>21462435
One hope is that a school might actually improve our writing system, just by people using it so much, and getting new ideas.

>>21462435
>>21462450
Ok instead of a school I say we create a religious order to Chani centered around the river, maintaining her tribe, and education in order to create diplomats up and down the river. We will invite the other tribes to send people as well if they desire.

>>21462450
I was not reffering to the structure. It is very difficult to organise and you need a proportional amount of specialists to be teaching rather than doing their jobs. We don't have the human resources to do organised schooling. It's why I suggested formalised apprenticeships. One of the things you could apprentice for would be scribe.

>>21462487
If the nature of worship can expand the influence of a deity, then this is brilliant. If not, such an organisation should not be dedicated to a river deity. I do agree with most of your suggestion though. I just don' think Chani is the most applicable deity.

>>21462487
Even better make this order for all the places. You want to be a warrior? You join the god of wars group. A hunter and friend of the wolves? Join that order.

Also did we ever get the goddess of winter to meet with that one guy again?

Also, I think the gifts to the river tribe should be samples of everything we have to trade. Perhaps with an addition of large quantities of, say, food if we want immediate gain. It would be a good idea to know what they want. I also suggest we not tell them that there is a sample of everything but that is just a general selection.

>>21462535
We could have the different families be put in charge of things like this, like with the farm family. It could better organize our tribe, improving our efficiency, and possibly lead to guilds one day. Though this would require opening up talks about having maybe a system like the traders; a chief, but head families a part of the gov't.

>>21462535
We're waiting until winter to do that, she doesn't have a priest so we can't summon her out of the blue.

>>21462570
I agree, a small smattering of all our goods is the best bet.

>>21462575
The lead trader smiles and explains that their village is ruled over by one chief, who is chosen from among the families, by a council of the family heads. For three generations, this practice has brought them great prosperity, he claims.

Hey, I don't trust 'em, but you can't argue with results.

>>21462575
Not families. Having an occupation belonging exclusively to a family creates a new problem. If it happens organically, then it would be acceptable but we are not making it law that you have to belong to a family to occupy a particular role.

>>21462316
I'm a histroyfag like you wouldn't believe. Not to mention an interest in sociology, mythology and awesomeology. I've visited archaeological sites since since I was a kid, grew up around archaeologists and scholars of ancient history, visited more 'living history' bronze and iron-age replica villages than I care to count, looked into woodmanship, survival tips, traditional cultures around the world and have been in and around the woods in England for most of my life. I also categorise and keep notes and tables on all the heroes you've gathered, the artefacts you're so eager to claim, the population and stores of the village and map the surrounding area.

Other than that, yeah I just wing it. Feels more organic, don't ya think?

>>21462628
Not belong to a family, we could have people work with that family, I'm just saying that that one family would maintain order among those specific workers, and maybe specialize in their craft, encouraging new discoveries.

Britfag, would it be to much to ask for you to list our active heroes? I can never remember who they are and have to go archive diving every time. I'm asking this under the impression that you have a list in a word document somewhere.

>>21462655
Or even better, when you are a child you are apprenticed off into one of the "guilds", and that guild becomes your new family.

>>21462620
They labor under a pretty strict theocracy, as we can see from their belief of being the "one true people'. We have no such thing, our leader would not be able have such authoritarian power. I enjoy the council we have now, it could eventually develop into a parliamentary system.

>>21462655
Just for the record: I am as troubled with the childish elitism of the farm family right now was well, but order could reign them in, and humble them.

>>21462655
I'd prefer if they were explicitly organizations of some sort rather than a family craft. I honestly think it's a bad precedent to structure our society on bloodline. These things have a tendency to crystallise. That is another reason why I was in favour of formalised apprenticeships; the craft would be formed of people who elected to practice it.

>>21462673
We have:

Tyrm
Rina
Our Wolf Priest (I named him a while back but it never stuck)
Mickey
Gerin
Our Lesbian Love Priest

I propose we establish a few stand trade and diplomacy standards. I'm fairly certain we would benefit form standardised practices in those fields. For maximum benefit, I recommend that we establish them in cooperation with our neighbours. Perhaps the establishment of regular trade-meets?

>>21462799
We have already established that there is going to be a yearly festival, so I think this wouldn't be too hard to organize.

>>21462799
I am an idiot who can't spell. I meant ''standard trade and diplomacy practices''.

>>21462713
Alright, I can see your point, but I think for the workers to be willing to be unionized by an organization, the organization would need command respect, I said the head families because they seem like the easiest choices, they are already a connected group of people, who maintain a high rank in our society. Organizing separate groups of people into an working leadership position would be more difficult, I'm not necessarily against it, it just seems like it'll take some time, and has a higher chance of disbanding, or falling apart. However, it is true that future generations of the family may not possess the same skill as the earlier one, and lose respect.

>>21462811
If the festival is already yearly, perhaps a proposition that all tribes bring forth their trade goods at such a time would be likely to be agreed upon. This would also likely lead to the emergence of dedicated merchants/diplomats.

>>21462843
I understand your reasoning because it's the same reasoning that was used historically. On top of the instinctive desire for your children to be a better versions of you, of course. Honestly, britfag might veto this because my argument relies on too much hindsight.

>>21462843
Or, there could be a selection process whereby a young villager becomes a farmer/warrior/whatever, and then goes to live with that group as their new family. This will breed a loyalty between all the farmers and warriors within their own groups, as the other farmers and warriors are literally their family.

The only tricky part to get down would be the selection process. Maybe there's a particular astrological sign that denotes what profession a child shall take?

>>21462881
Interesting idea.

It would create a situation where everyone is tied to their particular piece of the community, and would prevent families from dominating or controlling one particular region by having traditional bloodline based families be basically removed.

>>21462881
This runs the risk of factionalism. I know I'm nit-picking everything, but major organisational details like this are very hard to reverse if something goes wrong. The problem with my own proposal, by the way, is that it limits the quantity of specialists we can have.

>>21462881
Show the gods our yearly crop of kids. Maybe they can see talent, or passion in the field, or something. Or they could just favor some kids more than others, either way, we let the gods who clearly have highest authority in what they do decide. Having a specific god to look up to could also breed loyalty to their position. Everybody loves a nice father figure they can look up to. Or resent. Who knows?

>>21462635
You certainly seem like an interesting chap. Personally I'm also interested in (pre-1500) history but it never really got to a point where I would actively look into those things thoroughly.

And yea, it really feels that way most of the time. Haven't had a feeling of being railroaded or being cockblocked in here yet. (The random events like spirits appearing and stuff could be considered a bit pushed in our face, although of course you leave it up to us how far we dip into there. I like your style.)

End of praise for now.

>>21462939
Exactly!!

>>21462939
Sorry, but are you proposing we let gods dictate our demographics? If so, is it your goal for the gods to directly control the tribe?. I know this sounds like an attack but it's not; I genuinely want to know if that's the goal.

>>21462956
I say all of this division of labor and talk of guilds is a bit far down the road, lets focus on what we have not and take on the possibility of specialization when the time comes.

>>21463014
We may not have a choice. If we let it grow organically, the family trade thing is likely to be what happens. I'd suggest we take the incident with the farmers as a warning. Otherwise this sort of organisation could just gradually happen and produce undesirable results that won't be as easily dealt with as the farmers. If it is in fact dealt with, that is.

>>21463008
No, I'm proposing it.

And the gods/spirits are already much wiser and more powerful than we are. Yes, that power is at least somewhat relative to how much faith we put in them, but if we elevate our gods to the highest order of our society, would they not then grant us with their most precious gifts in return? Plus, I'm sure that Gorza would have a better eye at picking out warriors than Chani.

>>21463054
I'm wary of cultivating servility as a cultural trait within our tribe. I am certain it would be dangerous to have a population whose first instinct is to ask someone else to solve their problems.

>>21463014
The farm family kind of makes this a present pressing issue that, if handled early on, could come out favorably later. But we do also need to decide what we're going to do next turn.

>>21463049
I vote for creating a system of different organizations that children will be put into depending on their talents shown when they are young. We just need to know how to decide which kids goes where,e the best method I think is having the gods choose. I mean, they are powerful and have otherworldly knowledge.

In order to do this however we're going to need a few more gods to cover all subjects, a few craftsman gods, a god of death, a god of magic, a god of lore keeping, and other stuff of that nature.

>>21463054
While the gods do have very useful, and impressive powers, I don't think there's anyway they can call themselves more powerful than us, need I remind you of the asses Trym has kicked for this tribe? I just want a way of further ingratiating the gods into our culture so yes, they provide us with gifts and endowments. But I won't have the tribe become bootlickers to them just because they can bend the heavens. They are just as young as we are, apparently, and if anything, they look up to us.

>>21462939
> Aaaas fascinating as this is (and believe me, it is,) you're getting ahead of yourselves. A cultural event could give you the new trait of established specialisation within the households, but a lot of this advanced stuff I will have to veto, simply because the tribe doesn't have the hindsight for it. It's a good plan though!
> On another note..! You'll notice I have not added 'bronze' to your technologies list. This is because you DO NOT have it yet! The loaned bronzesmith may work with you, but he is NOT beholden to the tribe and has not taught anyone his craft yet. The secret is still not something your tribe has.

Rina and her small party head downstream, laden with gifts. Bows, bronze tools, berry liqueur and heavy pots of grain are all brought with them downstream. The tribe greets them gladly, especially when they see everything that has been brought. At first, they assume that Rina's party are traders, but even when told that is not their purpose, they bring them before the chief. The powerful man greets them within the longhouse, smiling broadly, "Wolfsbane! I had a thought some time soon to send my own people to visit your tribe, but it would seem you have beaten me to it! Welcome to my village. The Earthsplitter Clan welcomes you." He grins and chuckles, "What? With you and your friends taking such grand names, I thought it only fitting I chose one for my people too! Now, tell me... Why have you come here? Or was it simply to eat me out of house and home? You picked a fine time of year for it, if so!"

What will the tribe discuss?
> Specifics or so help me gods..!
A) Make request
B) Offer gift
C) Cultural exchange
D) Discuss military
E) Make agreements
F) Other

>>21463109
I approve of this. Also, while the god of battle is useful, I think we should consider looking into aspects of this concept. Specifically, we should decide which aspects of this very wide concept we should focus on. I suggest that the martial virtues we cultivate be honour, discipline rather than great feats of arms. We want our warriors to think that warriors should be more than strong.

>>21463109
There's that harvest god we could befriend, that would have to help with the farm family problem. And besides that, we could use the help. I'm tired of the 'food stocks are low' warnings.

>>21463134
Of course, we must respect the gods and they must respect us. We must have a mutual system of check and balances between us and our gods in order to map sure neither become too powerful.

Also I love the fact Gerin praises Groza by sitting around, drinking, and getting into fights.

Could you plase give me a minute? There's a proposal I'd like to script out correctly.

>>21463156
Training warriors to rely on their own strength, not simply the strength of their weapon is how heroes are born. Metaphorically speaking of course, Britfag's the one throwing us the curveballs like that, and it's part of the reason I come back every week.

>>21463154
"Aha, I like the name. Earsplitter fits you well, we've come to discuss some mighty things my friend. It would be good for us to discuss this in private, prying eyes might get jealous of what we are offering."

B) Offer him a gift of our finest wines first
C) Ask him about his harvest god and any specifications needed to build a temple to said god, or specifics for a priest.
E) Tell him how we have begun learning bronze trade from the tribe by the sea, and ask if he would like to know about it. Also tell him of our animal husbandry, not only the cows but the chickens and well and if he would like to know more about it in exchange for technology.

The tech we want is more seeds for our fields, advance agriculture, and we don't know much else they have that is useful, so we ask him hat he has to offer to us in return.

>>21463240
Whoops, Rock Wobblers, not chickens.

E) Also show him our goods we have brought and ask if he would like any of them to trade for singular goods.

This tribe is included in the yearly festivals, yes?

>>21463268
Yes, we're the one who proposed it and runs it. Next year however I think the Lion Lords are hosting it.

>>21463240
Since they've had longer relations with the traders than us, it's possible they already know bronze working themselves, and if they don't, then they probably know the traders have it, and will be impressed and grateful we shared it with them. It's an interesting proposal, and I'll support it, along with the other ideas.

>>21463288
Yes, like I said. If he doesn't know it I expect he'll be angry they didn't teach him and jump at the opportunity. We must plant the seeds of distrust between him and the ocean tribe, it will only do us good to get them apart in case war is on the horizon.

>>21463240
Though it's Earthsplitter I believe, unless you're trying to insult them, in which case, clever, but poor diplomacy

Rolled 3, 6, 3 = 12

>>21463323
Blame it on a translation error.

>>21463312
My thoughts exactly. To think, war against them would have sullied such an attractive opportunity.

I would go right to trading . Then go for culture study.

>>21463323
Whoops, strange autocorrection error, I meant earth splitter.

Also, if we can get this guy on our side I expect he treats his friends like bros. He is arrogant, but that's a good thing if that arrogance is on our side instead of against us.

>>21463359
Haha, funny. The only reason I don't support war against them now is because the Ocean Tribe is even more powerful and even bigger dicks.

>>21463154
We have come, chieftain of the Earthsplitter, for several reasons. To begin with, We have come to trade, so that both our tribes may achieve greater prosperity.

Secondly, we have a proposition for you that we will also, in full disclosure, offer to any who would be interested. This proposal is that every year, during our festivals, each of the participating tribes will bring with them all they might wish to trade in order to facilitate such exchanges in the future. These would not be gifts of any sort, we merely propose the establishment of a ''trade-meet''of sorts.

Thirdly, we would like to send one of our kin to live among you for some time, that he may learn your language and customs to aid future discussions and forge stronger bonds between our people. In asking for this, we also offer one of your own the opportunity to join us for a similar study if one so desires.

Finally, we wish to call you and your own friend, chieftain of the Earthsplitter, in the hopes of continued good relations between the your kin and ours.

I am open to any amendments. I strongly oppose antagonism though.

>>21463393
Note: the last line is not part of the speech.

>>21463385
Hey, I don't mean to sound insulting, in fact, if(when) war does break out with this trade tribe, you're the person I'm looking to for the battle strategies.

>>21463393
I like the language and customs bit. That seems pretty important, and I'm sure Rina will be happy to hear it.

>>21463432
Trust me, I already have a strategy to reduce their city to a stain upon creation is three months. Grass shall never grow again were we choose to defeat them, the smoke shall block out the sun.

>>21463475
So I take it you very strongly disagree with my proposal then?

>>21463475
I meant in three months if they declare war on us, they are too useful to kill now.

>>21463475
No no, I want these guys to be our friends. The tribe by the ocean is the one I do not like.

>>21463503
Best plan for taking down the Ocean tribe is offering them our most powerful warriors as slaves, in a show of humility to such a wise and powerful nation. Then, our fifty powerful warriors shall break free of their bonds, free the other tribes slaves, sack the city and return home with phat loot.

>>21463520
Well, the people who we sent there aren't slaves anyway, just workers. We basically sold them cheap labor, I don't really see anything morally wrong with that yet.

But I like your trojan horse plan, mine involved a lot of firebombs.

>>21463520
No. Nobody would ever trust us again.

>>21463559
But then we would be seen as paragons of freedom, a beacon of hope across the land. All the tribes that we want to trust us, will. All the tribes that would stab us in the dick to increase their own position will drift away from us.
Maybe

>>21463559
"Naw I saw it in this awesome movie once, it'll totally work."

Just thinking up what we're going to say to the other tribes when we propose it.

So, is anyone willing to use my speech? If they are any objections, I like to hear them so I can edit it.

>>21463520
But we can't just return with loot, we need to occupy the city and have an army waiting to invade once these warriors open the doors for us. Kill their king and occupy the city, kill their god too if we need to.

>>21463593
Enough Meta you guys! We need to advance the thread before Britfag calls it a night!
All in favour of Spine Snapper's diplomancy plan say "Aye!"

Dissenters, please respond with your reasons and addendum.

>>21463600
Did your speech have the points I put for in mind? Scroll up, because those were the ones we are using at the moment. Add your own points, I agreed with everything you said, but I would like mine included.

>>21463615
Aye!

>>21463615
Aye!

>>21463588
I think we would likely be seen as treacherous cowards who break their engagements. I'd like to note that for most of history, the trojan horse story was seen that way. It's only quite recently that it's become perceived as clever rather than treacherous.

>>21463624
Give me a minute. I'll update it.

>>21463641
Then we must breed and promote a culture in the tribes around us that appreciate cleverness as well as honor.

>>21463600
As I said before, I would like your point about the writing to be brought up, but I'm pretty much seconding Spine Snapper's whole plan.

>>21463650
Let me update mine instead, I'll just add in your thing.

"Aha, I like the name. Earsplitter fits you well, we've come to discuss some mighty things my friend. It would be good for us to discuss this in private, prying eyes might get jealous of what we are offering."

B) Offer him a gift of our finest wines first
C) Ask him about his harvest god and any specifications needed to build a temple to said god, or specifics for a priest.
C) Also propose exchanging a few citizens so we have more people who understand each other's languages, the citizens would live and work among the other tribe to help learn their culture and facilitate cohesion.
E) Tell him how we have begun learning bronze trade from the tribe by the sea, and ask if he would like to know about it. Also tell him of our animal husbandry, not only the cows but the chickens and well and if he would like to know more about it in exchange for technology.

The tech we want is more seeds for our fields, advance agriculture, and we don't know much else they have that is useful, so we ask him hat he has to offer to us in return.

>>21463703
I'm not gonna ask you to update it again man, but come on, you really didn't mean to insult them? Really?

>>21463738

*cough cough*

Of course not.

*cough*

Though really I just copy pasted this, forgot to change it to earth splitter.

We have come, chieftain of the Earthsplitter, for several reasons. To begin with, We have come to trade, so that both our tribes may achieve greater prosperity. In order to thank you for hearing our proposal, we offer a selection of our finest wines, if only to begin on a joyful note.

Secondly, we have a proposition for you that we will also, in full disclosure, offer to any who would be interested. This proposal is that every year, during our festivals, each of the participating tribes will bring with them all they might wish to trade in order to facilitate such exchanges in the future. These would not be gifts of any sort, we merely propose the establishment of a ''trade-meet''of sorts.

Thirdly, we would like to send one of our kin to live among you for some time, that he may learn your language and customs to aid future dicussions and forge stronger bonds between our people. In asking for this, we also offer one of your own the opprtunity to join us for a similar study if one so desires.

>>21463864
In fourth order, the ocean tribe that presented itself recently revealed their knowledge of a magnificent metal known as bronze. It is much harder than copper, and is quite effective in the construction of arms as well as tools. They have sent one of their specilists in its creation to our tribe so that we may learn of its construction, we would like to share this opportunity with you. In addition, we have found that keeping animals in pens and tending to them ourselves greatly reduce the strain on our hunters and provides much security during the winter months. We would be happy to share knowledge of these things with you if you but only reciprocated. In short, we propose a trade of lore in addition to a trade of ressources.

In truth, we may well be in need of your knowledge. We have begun to grow crops in the filds around our tribe, but have encountered some difficulties. If you have knowledge of a harvest deity, we would be most appreciative if you would tell us of it. If you would also consent, if you do in fact have knowledge of such a deity, to share your knowledge of the rites associated with its worship then we would be most appreciative.

Finally, we wish to call you and your own frind, chieftain of the Earthsplitter, in the hopes of continued good relations between the your kin and ours.

Did I miss anything?

>>21463890
I like. Always impressed at the quality level of writefaggotry I see here.

>>21463881
Sounds good to me, that'll be the fluff for my bare minimum one.

It occurs to me that my proposal is very open. If they agree, do you think we should also extend that level of openness to the other tribes?

>>21463393
Thirded on this one if it isnt too late.

Also, man, voting today took forever.

> You folks are livelier than usual tonight!

The Earthsplitter chief accepts the gift of the berry liqueur, but seems surprised by its strength. He calls for his wife, who brings a fine pottery jug and mixes the strong drink with water, "Like the Spray-Folk do, eh?" he smiles, raising a silver cup to drink from, "It is good and potent. I thank you for the gift."

When the discussion turns to their harvest god, he smiles, "Perwan? It would please her greatly if another tribe were to start to worship her. But I see a chance to kill two birds with one stone here." He holds up a finger and smiles, "You wish to send folks to learn of our language and customs. This is good! Why not then, send one who would learn from our priest? Then you could take back knowledge of how to honour our goddess, as well as our tongue. And the more of you know how to speak like us, the easier trade will become!" He seems quite proud of himself to have thought of such a thing.

"Friendship I gladly accept, as I will, any secrets of the Spray-Folk's bronze that you might barter with us," he goes on, "They bring us valuable things, but I would be a fool to pass up the chance to learn their secrets for myself."

"I am pleased to see," he notes, nodding, "That this time, you come to me as equals. My hall is ever open to such. But I have little patience for those who stick their noses in the air and look down upon me and mine." He invites the party to stay for a few days, as the details are arranged, before Rina and the others depart again for home.

>>21464146
> Ask me if I care. The more you folks debate and discuss, the better, in my opinion.
> Of course, after a point, even I just want to get on with it.

Turn Report

Population: 391 (161 elders and children)
Food: 5/15
Morale: 7/15

Known Food Sources: Depleted deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liqueur, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets

Moon 8

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
Natural quarry

>>21464382
> CORRECTION!
> It's moon 9


Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Gather wild food in the forest
E) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
F) Hold a cultural event (specify)
G) Craft specific objects
H) Send envoys to another tribe
I) Other
J) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

>>21464298
Oh sweet jesus. How long I've been waiting for this post- entire threads. And it's just as glorious as I'd dreamed it'd be... *sniff*

Though, whatever we reply, I would like us to add, "Yes, it will be very nice for BOTH of us to BOTH learn of each other's respective languages."
Just seemed a little one sided is all. But still, super friendly guy.

Rolled 1, 3, 6 = 10

>>21464298
I'm really starting to like this guy, he's a go-getter and a real bro.

>>21464403
Let's just take it in stride. He is proud and unlikely to respond well to confrontation. Remember that this is something we will likely repeat with other tribes.

>>21464400
H) Pick someone to stay with the other tribe. Someone smart, preferably.
A) Send some scouts to discreetly check out the Foamers (as I like to call them, it sounds insulting, without being insulting).
I) Let's test those clay tablets out again, shall we, with these newfangled bronze tools. Carefully though, can't risk breaking them.

>>21464400
So it's fall now then. And welcome back Mojo!

We've got a quarry now too? Nice.
C. Gather stones from the quarry.
C. Go gather some clay for further experiments into building homes/monuments.
D. Its fall and fall means fall fruits.

H) Lather, rinse, repeat what we just did for the other two tribes in our vicinity. They need to know about the trade-meet to be able to participate.
H) Send a volunteer to live with the Earthsplitter to learn all he can of the cult of Perwan. Ideally someone diplomatic.
G) Craft a more serviceable gate. It is rather unappealing to visitors and caused difficulties the last time we were invaded. I suggest double gates but if the majority prefers a portcullis of some sort I don't mind.

>>21464479
Optimal writing tools for clay tablets are sharpened reeds. I just don't think we have any useful for such purposes nearby.

>>21464578
Hey, it's called experimentation for a reason. Let's just give it a try, y'know? We're so close to making writing a staple of our culture, we'll pull a China on these bitches and they won't be able to say anything about it!

Actually, never mind that. We came up with ideograms from nothing, we're prodigiously advanced as far as writing is concerned.

>>21464624
Ideograms are extremely complicated to learn. There is no way it can be learnt by more than a small elite. The next step would be coming up with phonograms.

>>21464556
I throw my support behind this.

we need to train some translators too guys

>>21464556
The new tools prove their value the moment they're put to work. While an impact like cutting stone would bend and warp copper, hard bronze is more-or-less un-effected by the stress. The issue comes however... In bringing the cut stone back. The paths over the mountains are simply not suitable for the village's carts. The stonecutters are forced to fall back on older methods - travois. This means however, that in the space of the moon, they are unable to bring back more than a few of the heavy, rough-cut blocks.

Yet MORE clay is gathered from the marshy area upstream. The problem with storage has gone from minor to severe, as there is quite literally no-where left in the village to store much of anything else!

Those few members of the tribe who were not involved with gathering resources, head into the forest to gather the fall fruits from the trees and bushes. A hefty supply of pears and blackberries, the main types of fruit to be found nearby, are gathered in for the village, supplementing the food supply for winter.

>>21465189
Turn Report

Population: 391 (161 elders and children)
Food: 6/15
Morale: 7/15

Known Food Sources: Depleted deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry, natural medicine,
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, crude instruments, rough berry liqueur, tribal militia, crude ideograms, primitive copper trinkets, crude clay writing tablets

Moon 10

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
Natural quarry

>>21465201
Action Points: THREE

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources (not food)
D) Gather wild food in the forest
E) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
F) Hold a cultural event (specify)
G) Craft specific objects
H) Send envoys to another tribe
I) Other
J) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

>>21465201
Hey, nothing to do in the cold months but experiment. So let's see what these bronze tools can do.

>>21465213
I) Clay tablet testing
I dunno if we have to research this, but stone carving? Maybe take a bronze pick axe to the stone so we can have some memorial obelisks decorating our side of the river.
And let's call the snow goddess, let her know who's back.

>>21465255
What is your opinion of people who ditch you?

>>21465255
Hey, Britfag hasn't ditched me, and that's all I'll say about that.

>>21465213
E) Start figuring out how to write on clay tablets, we've already done it, but we should refine it.
E) Start trying to figure out the problem of how to make better carts, possibly by researching a yolk to put on one of our cows to pull the carts.
I) Send men upriver to the tribe with the single chieftain, a few to learn about his god and a few few language, as well send someone with enough knowledge of our tribe to start giving him some cool ideas to tie us together, and drop hints that a political marriage would be very useful.

>>21465297
I meant her attitude towards her friend disappearing on her could be somewhat dramatic.

>>21465316
Oh wait, it's winter. Change my clay tablet one to sending Mickey out to try and get Khione to come back to the village and invite her to stay with him in the same house permanently.

>>21465316
Oh yea, let's change my vote from stone cutting to sending that tribe member

>>21465338
Ah. Well. We'll just leave that one up to Mickey I suppose... lover's quarrel and all that...

If she shows up without the necklace though we're fucked.

>>21465316
Useful refinement of writing at this point would involve either: A) transitioning to paint/ink rather than engravings or B) addition of phonograms to our writing system. Of those two, the first is by far the easiest.

Rolled 2, 3, 4 = 9

>>21465316
Seconding

>>21465222

Yup.

E. Have the wise ones look into using the clay to make improvements in housing.

H. Send some envoys to the lion tribe offering the same thing we did to the last one. And also: "Rina, though we know it annoys you to constantly be asked to leave your shrine and help us translate, we assure you that this will soon change. We acknowledge that we have used your god given talents and even abused them from time to time but with these last couple of trips we are leaving behind villagers to learn the languages of our neighbors to not only strengthen our relations, but free you up to honor Chani in the way that you desire. All we ask is that you hold with us just a little while longer so that these final agreements can be made."

I. Make some new liquors using the new fruits we gathered. More flavors means better trade-ability!

>>21465373
Also, I like how we're still the only tribe who hasn't watered down their booze yet. If no one else is opposed, I'd like to keep it that way. Something special we can bring to the festival.

>>21465396
Yea! Those damn sissies waterin' down their drink. We iz gonna drink rubbin' alcohol and go blind and like it!

What exactly are people trying to do with the clay tablets? At the moment, our written language includes ideograms and the step beyond that is phonograms. Honestly, we skipped a few steps(and about 500 years) in the development of our writing. We are geniuses when it comes to writing. I will be surprised if we can transition from ideographic writing to an alphabet in just a few years.

>>21465453
We're geniuses period. We're trying to figure out a way we can write stuff down and keep it so we can preserve knowledge for later use. Basically it's this or trying to figure out a simple way to make some kind of paper.

>>21465442
The tale of that elder who drank himself silly until he passed out in the snow and froze- one of tribe Wolfbane's most celebrated drinking stories. Tragic, yet bittersweet.

>>21465483
Parchment is a better option then. We live in a forest. With no bamboo like the Chinese had.

>>21465483
Not just that, if we're first on the scene with writing, then we get to say what happened here. History belongs to the writers, and all that.

>>21465497
Actually, wait a tic. I seem to remember than in the fluff text for the development of writing, the elders painted the ideograms on hides. Let me look this up because if that's the case we already know the answer you're looking for.

>>21465508
The problem about improving the writing system itself, by the way, is that the current on will have to have been in use for long enough for it's deficiencies to manifest.

>>21465488
And Gerin, all he does is drink and get in fights. Honestly with the amount he drinks he should be dead at this point.

Wait... our alcohol is so potent..

does anyone else think we might just be able to use it as an explosive?

>>21465549
There is no way a non-lethal alcohol is volatile enough to not just catch fire, but to explode.

>>21465549
Oh shit. Refrek you genius.

>>21465568
...do you think we might be able to distill it to explosive levels though?

Because I think us developing explosives would give us an enormous military advantage.

>>21465549
We are turning into Norwegians. I'm fine with that.

Also yes! Molotov cocktails!

Ok, suptg is down so I'll ask outright. Britfag, am I remembering this correctly about the hides? If so, do you want to run with it? We are skipping literally millennia of historical development

>>21465582
This is the leg up over the foamers we've been looking for.

>>21465606
Yeah, if we develop explosives and a simple catapult we can rain down fiery death from the skies above. It's perfect.

I know the perfect excuse to develop it too, we need to find a better way to break stone. Someone gets the idea that since a forge can melt rocks then a lot of fire really fast might be able to break it. So the people set about trying to find something that goes boom. I expect it to be like a fairly long research, but it'd be worth it.

>>21465582
Alright, I'm sorry, but I'm putting my foot down right here. Your boozeahol is 'strong' by other people's standards, but next to today's stuff, it's still gnat-piss. We're talking American beer here. It's just flat-out not refined enough to even set light, I'm afraid.

Further, your current research abilities just do not allow for that. Tribal-level research is "See immediate problem, look for obvious solution." There's little to be had in the way of true innovation yet.

>>21465671
Damn, and I wanted to make stuff go boom.

>>21465599
Yeah, I dropped the ball on that one. The first ideograms by the tribe were in charcoal, on scraped hides. They disappear FAST though, if handled even slightly badly. Your writing system is, in a word... Only one step up from utterly useless.

>>21465671
So, about those painted hides. Am I remembering this right? It is the best thing we could conceivably use for a civilization as small as this single tribe. Much better than paper actually.

>>21465704
So they are not ideograms then? If the only missing link to storing writing is to find a juice that stains then it is a really easy problem to fix.

>>21465704
Wait a minute, we used charcoal! Charcoal on hide lasts a respectable amount of time. Ancient storage problems were because papyrus degrades. Parchment is very resilient.

Ok everyone. It seems we have a fairly pressing storage problem. I say we start a plan I have termed.

"The Massively Big Expansion Thing."

What we do is start building outside of our current city wall, we will build housing and storage facilities out there, along with the construction of a large market and housing out fields and animal areas. Outside this second expansion we will build a second larger city wall. Every time out population grows to fill a wall we all build outside of it in another expansion.

We will call this the Inner and Outer Cities. The Inner city will house leadership (meeting houses and such), churches and shrines, the tribe main houses, commercial building, and the like. The outer city is where the agriculture, markets, lower branches housing, fishing district, animal housing, and warehouses will go.

>>21465704
Do you want to ret-con this to berry juice or something? Stumbling upon charcoal on hide is literally the best possible combination we could discover short of Chinese ink.

>>21465704
You may want to retcon this. Charcoal + hide is basically the best option we could have taken.

>>21465784
As an aside, we would need both soot and a binding agent of some kind(like gelatin) to make ink.

>>21465780
Sort of like how Rome expanded? City expands? Add a wall. Expand again? Add another wall! It'll work for a while, but the farms, for the most part, will have to be outside of the walls.

>>21465853
Rome was worst designed city in the entire empire. We are not emulating the design of the most infamously labyrinthine city of the ancient world.

>>21465847
Or animal fat.

>>21465876
We are simply emulating the idea of expansion outside of a wall, and the construction of another wall. We need to start expanding soon.

Britfag, how cramped is the inside of our city at the moment?

>>21465784
Sometimes, you just hit the good combination. The main problem is the ideograms themselves are complicated and cumbersome. They're not really much good for anything but basic records at most.

Anyway, on with the game. This'll be the last update for tonight.

>>21465912
Ah, so what we have are pictograms then? Ideograms are symbols used to represent abstract ideas such as love, faith, anger, hope and so on. You are talking about a writing system where 1 symbol=1 object right?
Anyway, here is my vote: HSend our ambassador/priest in training to the Earthshakers,
H)Send Chani with a delegation to the Lion tribe with a similar proposal to the one we gave to the Earthshaker.
G) Begin construction of a set of outer walls to expand the city. Do not know down our current walls, wee need them for the protection they accord us from the winter winds.

>>21465912
Is anyone with me that next thread we forgo going to any other tribe or anything in exchange for simply getting through as many turns as possible. We need to advance some more, the last 5 threads or so we haven't got much done.

>>21465912
H) Send Mickey out to try and get Khione to come back to the village and invite her to stay with him in the same house permanently.
E) Start trying to figure out the problem of how to make better carts, possibly by researching a yolk to put on one of our cows to pull the carts.
I) Send men upriver to the tribe with the single chieftain, a few to learn about his god and a few few language, as well send someone with enough knowledge of our tribe to start giving him some cool ideas to tie us together, and drop hints that a political marriage would be very useful.

>>21465966
We got plenty done. We just didn't do much that would go up on the turn report. Forging long-lasting alliances with our neighbours is infinitely more useful than simply working on our own.

>>21465989
Yeah, but we need some infrastructure fast. We don't want to have good relations while our own city is crumbling around us.

>>21466007
I agree. I just disagreed with the implication that we didn't get much done

>>21466007
Good point. Our walls are old, our houses are basic. I think next thread we should continue with the relations, but seriously jack up our focus on our village becoming as formidable as possible.

>>21466064
True. With bronze tools we can get very far with woodwork. Saws, chisels, planes, nails and hinges will dramatically improve our construction capabilities. Or will we have to develop those tolls individually?

>>21466098
Saws, Chisels we already have I believe. Nails are pretty butt fuck simple, planes and hinges we'll probably have to develop.

>>21466113
Also I wonder when our wolf priest is finally coming home (it's been six months of communing in the wild now, and it's starting to get to winter. Much longer and I am sending people to look for him). Also I wonder how long until the bronze smith takes an apprentice, he refused to let us send people before.

>>21466113
Copper saws and chisels would be so infective that they would be functionally unusable. With copper, we likely used a lot of axe-heads.

>>21465906
> You're not particularly cramped, yet.
> I would advise you this though... You're a bronze-age society, hell, not even that!
> Don't get ahead of yourselves

The tribe's wise ones begin the slow process of creating a new, better way to pull the tribe's carts. The idea of using cows to pull them is a good one, but the design of the yoke is difficult to imagine. Further; the tribe doesn't have very many cattle to experiment with.

A man is chosen from among the tribe to go downriver to the Earthsplitter Clan, to learn their language and the teachings of their goddess of the harvest. Rina accompanies him for a short time, so that he can at least learn the basics of their language without being hopelessly lost.

>>21466155
And what of Mickey and the Snow Godess?! What?!

>>21466155
God, sorry that took so long. I must be more tired than I thought.

I'll handle Mikuhla's part next time, as it's going to probably be important. If it's not... Well I guess nobody's perfect!

Hope you all enjoyed tonight! The next thread will be on THURSDAY and I'll endeavour to have thread up at 1600EST, for a start at about 1630EST. I'll see you all there. Have a good one!

>>21466174
I am so glad my nick name stuck.

Also since it is difficult it just means we need to spend a few more turns on it.

>>21466191
It's a bit odd that we're having trouble with it though. The yoke is a neolithic invention.

>>21466186
A cliff-hanger. Damn you Britfag. Damn you and your good thread. See ya Thursday, glad I made it back for this session.

>>21466191
We can conceive of a system of writing, but making a yolk we all just drink liquor, hide behind a rock near the cows, and throw sticks at them waiting for something to happen. This is what I am convinced is happening.

We are drunken irishmen with momentary flashes of super brilliance.

>>21466264
That or we missed something.

impolite sage

>>21466278
Nah, yolks are a very simple idea, so it must be we're all intoxicated.

>>21466317
Or your GM is just very tired and being a bit dense.