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Kirei-sama just asked me why the quest wasn't up.

>Are you gonna run it?
"No, but wouldn't it be good to-"
>If it's my quest now, you quitting fuck, I make the decisions.
"But, but-"
>Fuck you.
"People liked it when you ran."
>They liked it when you ran too. Run the quest.
"No."
>Fuck you.

Oh well, I didn't have anything too important happening right this second anyway.

We're at the morning of Day 5 right? Just needed to check my timeline.
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Wow what a faggot.
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So far as I know we are going to get Kiritsugu's old shit.
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>>21420087
Uh, let's see. Just got a bit of a dressing-down by Souichirou-sensei... getting Kiritsugu's stuff from Raiga was being considered. Two votes for that, one for a write-in --
> [ ] Mark out all the locations for the blood fort.
-- which does strike me as a good thing to do at some point...
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>>21420326
Tohsaka and Archer should be able to take care of it.
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>>21420087
We just decided to go see Raigo about Kiritsugu's old gear, right after broing it up with Souichibro-sensei
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>Kirei-sama bitching about quest thread he no longer runs

lol

Anyway I was looking for this thread. Glad it's up.

And I believe we were going to ask Raiga for some of the old man's gear.
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YESSSS, ITS THE BEST TIME OF THE DAY AGAIN!
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I decide to call Raiga. After a few minutes, I get through to him.

"Shirou!" He says after getting the phone. "What can I do for you?"

"You assume I'm calling for a favor?"

"Well.... If you're talking to me instead of Taiga, I'd assume it would be something either she can't help you with or you don't want her to know about."

"... Yeah, I guess that's true. I've got a weird feeling there might be something happening in town."

"Yes." He replies. "With these recent mass faintings and such... If you wanted to know what I know, it's nothing. Simply by noticing such strange happenstance you're as knowledgeable as me. The last time unexplained things happened was about a decade ago, around the time of that big fire. Your father told me he was looking into it, but wasn't able to find an answer before he passed away."

My blood runs a bit colder as I remember the flames of that hell tens years ago. "... Speaking of my Father, do you know if he left anything behind? Anything I should know about?"

"He didn't leave much that wasn't to you." He says after a few moments thought. "A few last minute charitable donations, but that's not unheard of. He did have a storage unit in town somewhere though. He asked me not to open it, just make sure dues were payed and no-one asked too many questions."
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>>21420401

"Do you remember where it is?" I ask, surprised at the information.

"Not off the top of my head, and it's a bit of paper diving. I'll let you know in a day or two if I find anything." He answers.

We exchange pleasantries as I walk along, and I promise to tell Taiga to visit him more often. By the time I get to my house, I've long since hung up the phone.

As I enter the house, I idly wonder how my father knew him.

Rin's waiting for me.

"Archer said it's probably a bad idea for you to do magic, but we can work on the more academic side of things if you want. Training with Saber would also be a good idea for right now."

[ ] Magic.
[ ] Swords.
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>>21420411
We need to sword up. Magic practice does us no good without the ability to actually practice magic.
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>>21420411
But our magic is swords. What's the difference? I kid, I kid.

Let's do [X] Swords, spend some time with Seiba and get some choppy practice in.
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>>21420411

Either way it's swords. Shirou's not too good at theory, so it's probably best to rest our circuits and get some physical training in.
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>>21420411
>[X] Saber~
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I am the bone of my [SWORD]
...

what? Someone had to do it
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[x] Magic.
I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure Shirou's magic lessons with Rin kept him from getting his ass killed in at least one instance, or knowing how to use his sword magic well enough to use UBW, or something like that.
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After training we need to go and lift the blood fort. It's been sitting there for too long like a sword over everyone's neck.
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>>21420411
To become chinese magic batman one must first
>[x] Sword
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>>21420411
[X] Swords.

Swords are what's going to keep us alive in this war.
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>>21420411
Lets practice swords with our Sword, then stick our other sword in our Sword, if you get my drift.
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>>21420843
explain further
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>>21420843
You want to spar with Saber and Archer at the same time?
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>>21420870
We're going to violently clash our swords together and hope to get better at it.
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>>21420870
>>21420874
He means practice with Saber, then have sex with her.

>i don't follow.jpeg
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>>21420922
I have no idea how sex involves swords, but it sounds fun.
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"If I can't actually do magic right now, it might be better if I did physical training." I answer, and I notice Rin wince slightly.

Saber nods, and starts toward the Dojo, but I hesitate.

"Shirou, what's wrong?" Rin asks, looking at me.

"Are you alright?"

"Yeah, fine." She responds, giving me a more concerned look.

"It's just when I mentioned not being able to practice magic-" She winces. "Yeah, definitely saw it that time. Rin, you're not blaming yourself for what happened?"

"It.. it was a decision I made out of hand." She responds, not meeting my gaze. "I figured it would be the fastest way to get the desired goal, and my mistake almost killed you."

"Not your fault." I answer. "You had no idea it was going to happen, and just by the way you're ac ting about tells me it wasn't intentional."

"If I thought it out more-"

"No, no 'ifs'. You had no reason to consider it further. Looking back at a bad result in hindsight is always good. It helps you learn from your mistakes. You can't let it warp your perspective though. Maybe what you know now could've changed it, but you didn't know then so what happened is nothing to be ashamed of."
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>>21420949

She hesitates, and then sighs. "Yeah, I guess." Then, jumping as though she just received an electric shock she blushes slightly and turns away. "A-Anyway, weren't you going to go get beat up by Saber attempting to learn something?"

"Yeah. You planning to watch again?"

She blushes harder, leaning into a bag she brought from her house. "N-no. I'll use the time to figure out how to teach a lost cause like you, since we're stuck together for now."

Confused by her sudden change in tone, I step outside, and see a rather distracted Saber waiting for me. "You ready?" I ask.

"Hmm? Oh, yes." She says, seeming to come back into the present. "Just waiting for you."

We head to the Dojo, where as Rin predicted I get severely beaten for about an hour before Saber calls a break. She seems.... distracted.

[ ] Ask her what's wrong.
[ ] Ask her who she is.
[ ] Ask her about my progress.
[ ] Ask her about the War.
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>>21420931
Ever heard of the mercenary position?
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>>21420958

[x] Ask her whats wrong
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>>21420958
[X] Ask her about the War.

If she's fought any Holy Grail Wars before, how they usually go, where they were, that sort of thing.
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>>21420958
>[ ] Ask her what's wrong.
I swear she doesn't just wear her emotions on her sleeve, she waves them around like a goddamn battle-standard.
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>>21420958
[X] Ask about the war.

She might be concerned about the remaining servants.
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>>21420958
Ask about the War. Even if it is off the mark, it would help bring her to focus on what our goal.
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>>21420959
>Ever heard of the mercenary position?

Oh you

>>21420958

[x]Ask her what's wrong
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>>21420958
[x] Ask her what's wrong.
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>>21420958
>[X] Ask her what's wrong.
If she had input about the War, she would offer it. Something else is bothering her.
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>>21420959

>mercenary

Mother-Fucker, I was drinking Dew. That shit burns when it goes out your nose.

And now I need to clean up, back in five.
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>>21420958
[x] Ask her what's wrong.
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>>21421019
Like hell it does.
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So how are we going to handle the Rider fight? Use Kiristugu tactics, or send in Rin as the vanguard?
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>>21421275

>implying we'd do anything but rush Rider with our sword and try to impale her with it

>and not in the lewd way, either
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>>21421275
Do you even have to ask? We're banking so damn hard towards Kiritsugu i'm surprised we haven't spontaneously acquired manly stubble and a nicotine addiction in the last two days.
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>>21421305
So the Saber runs interference while we go after the master?
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>>21421305
Who's to say we haven't? We're going to wake up tomorrow with a lit cigarette in our mouth and a 5 o'clock shadow and not have any idea how either of them got there.
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"Saber? What's wrong?"

"What?" She says, surprised. "Nothing's wrong."

"Really."

"Really." She says, looking away voice slightly distant. "Nothing's wrong."

"Something's bothering you. I can tell because you do the same thing I do and avoid the topic."

"I'm telling you there's nothing wrong." She responds, slightly indignant.

"Then I shall be forced to assume the problem is me, and become depressed." I respond, adopting a thousand yard stare. "Maybe if I was a better master there wouldn't be these sorts of problems. Or maybe I'm just a lousy student." Saber has her back to me, obviously trying to ignore me. "Maybe I'm just not handsome enough. Is she jealous of Rin? Nah, it's probably because I'm a lousy mage. I can't get her a lot of energy or even cast a spell. Since I can't do that she has to eat my terrible cook-"

"You're a good cook." Saber finally comments, breaking her stoney facade.

"Oh, so all those other things were true? Wow, now I am depressed." I say, slumping my shoulders and leaning into the wall.

"What?! No, I didn't- There's nothing wrong with you r looks- not that I care- and you can't help that you were never taught to-" She blinks, and then narrows her eyes. "You're more clever than you look."
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>>21421336

"That's not saying much." I respond. "So out with it, why are you so worried?"

"Does it really matter to you?"

"Of course." I respond. "If I don't know, it's going to haunt me like an angry ghost, and I'll be forced to wonder about it for the rest of my life. Which, in a war, will be dramatically shorter if we're all so concerned about hiding our feelings."

"... Alright." she says. "Do you really believe what you said to Rin? about perspective warping judgement?"

"Well... yeah. I mean, falling down sucks, but you have to get up eventually. You can't let mistakes be anything other than a learning experience or they'll destroy you."

"What if it was a really big mistake?" Saber asks.

"Any mistake you can walk away from is one you can learn from."

"I died." She returns dryly.

"... Yeah, I think you get a pass for being bitter on that count. But you aren't dead now. Sort of. I'll be honest, I'm not entirely clear on how the whole 'heroic spirit' thing works." I sigh. "I'm not sure what happened to you, but I'd hate to see it rule you. It already got you killed, how much more do you want to give it?"

She's silent for a while. "I'll think on this later. For now, would you like to continue training?"

I look at the clock. There's still four hours until lunch.

[ ] Spar.
[ ] Do something else.
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>>21421347
Let's ask about the Grail War. Ask if she's been in any before, who she was with, how they panned out, any effective tactics and strategies that were employed, that sort of thing.
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>>21421347
>[x] Do something else.

Another hour of sword training, maybe split the rest of the time learning magic theory with Rin and finding the locations of the bloodfort?
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>>21421347
>[ ] Do something else.

talk about >>21421374, then go see what Rin is up to, until its time to deal with the Bloodfort.
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>>21421347

[x] Spar abit more
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>>21421388

I like this. Lets go with this.
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>>21421347
[X] Spar.
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>>21421388
Dis.
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A three way tie.

Good to know I'm consistent about that at least.

>>21421388
>>21421460
>>21421447

You guys realize that it's going to be several hours before schools out, right? And that you can't go there until it lets out?
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>>21421529
That's a lot of swordan' an' spellan'.
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>>21421529

Oh.

Derp.

Then an hour of sparing and three hours of magic theory.
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>>21421529

Ah.

[x] Spar. Then perhaps some alchemy.

RIn did say she'll teach that to us.
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>>21421543
Agreed.
Gotta keep our training balanced.
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>>21421347
[X] Do something else. Solo practice with magic.
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bump
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>>21421611
No. No Swording Swords out of Swords today. If you do, you'll Sword out. And then you'll never get a Saber Sheath.

Also: AC-Guy - You're awesome.
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>>21421776
Who cares about Saber?
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>>21421808
Considering I'd rather have the Bazett route unlocked? not me. I was just saying. The whole "Dying" thing leads to the land of the of bad end. And no Taiga Dojo will save you in this quest. (Or will it?)
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"Yeah. Another hour of sparring, and then maybe talk to Rin about Alchemy."

Saber nods, and after a minute we begin to spar again. We start to approach the hour mark, and I feel slightly frustrated. I know, logically that I can't match a servant in direct combat, especially not Saber.

She's got a lifetime of experience behind her, and that's before the boost to speed and strength she gets from becoming a servant. Yet I can't help but feel....

A sharp crack as her sword hits mine. I'm off balance, next she'll come in low and knock my legs out from under me.

I can't deflect the blow in time. But if I was just a bit faster-

I feel myself shift, and for a split second the world moves slower. I deflect the blow.

Saber adjusts quickly and smacks the inside of my arm as I over-correct trying not to tip after my wild swing to deflect. Two blows later, I'm disarmed and on my back, saber standing over me with a smile. "You're improvement is rather amazing, for someone who's only been training for a couple of days."

"I used to train with my Dad. Maybe some of that's just coming back to me?"

"... Perhaps." Saber responds. "But you have a bit too much of HIS style in there for that to be the entire reason."

I don't even need to ask who she's referring to as I stand up. "Two hours of training for now." I say. "Maybe we'll do more after lunch."

Saber nods, and we head back to the main house. Tosaka's sitting in the living room when I return.

"Finished sparring, Emiya-kun?"
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>>21421850

"For now." I respond, sitting down. "You said something about teaching me Alchemy?"

"Certainly. It can be difficult, but requires little in the way of magical power to do. Most normal people could manage Alchemy, if they knew how. for someone like you with little ability as a Magus but lots of patience it would seem a good match."

"I see." I respond, looking at her. "So alchemy is what, potion making?"

"It would be more accurate to say that Alchemy is using magic to turn something into something else. Mostly that amounts to potion making. You could say that it shares similarities to your structural magic." Rin says, getting into a full on lecturer mode. "Since for instance, making a healing potion would involve taking herbs that stimulate cell growth and numb pain, and using magic to make the effects more potent."

"So it's still the same herbs, just enhanced. The same way that stick was still wood."

Rin nods, satisfied. "Exactly. It tends to be an under appreciated field, simply because a mage with the right spells could do it faster and easier than a potion. It also, frankly, tends to be boring compared to most forms of magic. Who wants to make a better stick when you can rain fire from the sky?"
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>>21421904

"I would. medicine seems more practical in the long run."

She smiles. "Well, yeah. You would. You're also rather strange."

"You seem to like it. I'm glad you're here to teach me this stuff."

Rin nods, then blushes.

"Archer, shut up." I say with a sigh.

He materializes next to Rin. "How did you know?"

"Your touch has become too heavy handed. You also said something to her before I went to the Dojo?"

"He did." Rin says, narrowing her eyes. "Archer, what're you doing?"

[ ] Tell Rin he's a dick.
[ ] Keep the conflict secret.
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>>21421914
Keep her out of it. This is between us and ourselves.
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>>21421923
Agreed
[X] Keep the conflict secret.

Its the gentlemanly thing to do, and I feel we should be dapper on top of snarky.
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>>21421914

Man to man combat is between men.
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>>21421914
[x] Keep the conflict secret.
No reason to drag her into it yet.
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>>21421914
>[ ] Keep the conflict secret.
We will defeat ourselves without any assistance.
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>>21421914
[X] Keep the conflict secret.

She doesn't need to know.
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[x] Keep the conflict secret.

Man to man combat is between men.

We won't let ourselves cockblock us.
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>>21421991
Does it count as masturbation?
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"Nothing too important." I cut in. "He's dissatisfied with me as an ally, much like we all are. While Saber's helping me learn to fight and you're helping me learn magic, he's helping me to prepare for the rigors of combat by what he calls 'psychological warfare'."

Rin blinks. "What?"

"It's actually rather useful, since if I can't focus on something as simple as cooking with someone ribbing me, how can I hope to concentrate on what I'm doing in a fight when something happens like you or Saber gets hurt?"

Rin turns to Archer. "Is this true?"

"He's downplaying it slightly, but yes." He answers. "I have been messing with him to test his resolve. Also because I find your reactions hilarious."

"Really now." Rin responds with an annoyed expression.

"Of course." Archer answers with a smile. "Hormones are FUN. Now then, if Shirou's becoming used to my current avenue of attack, then it means I need to vary my training style. with your permission Master, I think it would be best to scout the town a bit more while you teach him. You should be safe enough here with Saber."

Rin looks between us. "Of course." Archer leaves, and Rin turns to me. "You're really fine with this?"

"If I can't handle his childish taunts, how am I supposed to stare down Berserker?"
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>>21422107

She she looks thoughtful, then sighs. "Well if you're fine with it. If he gets to be too much, let me know and I'll tell him to stop."

We then spend almost three hours practicing Alchemy, when Archer returns.

"The field around the school is a bit stronger, but it's not complete yet." He says. "If we don't do something about it tonight, it could be completed within a day or two."

Rin hesitates. "We'll have to do something about it then. Tonight's our best bet, but it will have to be after sundown."

"What do we do in the meantime then?" I ask.

"Well, we could go into town to scout, or we could keep training here." She says. "If we fight another Master before we're ready, the results could be disastrous, but it might be even worse if we have no idea what they're capable of when we meet."

[ ] Suggest scouting.
[ ] Suggest Training.
[ ] Train while Rin scouts.
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>>21422111

[x] Scouting together.

Don't split the party. If Rin runs into lancer and berserker, she'll be in trouble.
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>>21422111
Haha! Time for patrols!
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>>21422111
>[ ] Suggest scouting.
Our body is adequate, and our mind believes itself to be prepared. TO WAR!
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>>21422111
Go out scouting I guess. Cannot just sit in the house and train forever.
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>>21422111

Also... Rin, have you learned how to read and send a text?
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>>21422111
>[X] Train while scouting with Rin and Saber.

Nothing saying we can't discuss magical theory while walking around. Or alchemical theory, for that matter.

"By the by, can you teach me to heal my servant? And what do they run on, anyway? Food?"
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>>21422149
Because blabbing your weaknesses to someone you will have to fight to the death sooner or later is a great idea.
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>>21422111
>[x] Suggest scouting.

And while we're at it, why don't we scout out Rin's panties?
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Actually, while scouting, mix up the Servant-Master pairs, that way if we run across any other Masters and Servants, they will think we have the other Servant, and it will ruin plans they make to fight us.
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>>21421850
>I feel myself shift, and for a split second the world moves slower. I deflect the blow.
>for a split second the world moves slower
>the world moves slower
Did we just subconsciously Time Alter?
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>>21422222
I was thinking we either did that or tapped into the SWORD skills of the SWORD dimension.
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>>21422222
I sincerely doubt it. Kiritsugu would have had to have given us his magic crest, right? But on the other hand, it is magic.
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>>21422222
That should be impossible what with the - as far as I know - lack of any of the Emiya crest and what-not.
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>>21422157
I think it's safe to say Tohsaka already knows we suck. Also, having two fully healed servants is better than having one and a half. IIRC, Saber's wound from Lancer is still in effect, and continues to be until the second Berserker fight in the VN. So, if we can learn how to A) Heal her with mana and B) Get her into spirit form for daylight protection, we'll be better off and won't burn a second command spell just to summon her to our side in case of an emergency.
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>>21422244

We can't get her into spirit form though, because she's not technically dead, remember? She made a contract with Gaia before she died. That's why she can't enter spirit form.
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>>21422240
>impossible
No such thing. Just highly improbable. Hell, we are doing our best to channel him, so maybe wherever he left his crest it decided to latch onto us, especially since we sent Raiga to look for it.
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>>21422222

Given the way Shirou's magic works, I'd say it's more likely that he used enhancement magic on himself, in the same way Caster buffed her master.

I mean, given that it's structural, and all his magic is based on some form of that from basic tracing all the way up to full on projection, it's entirely possible.

Also, since the Emiya crest died with Kiritsugu and it might be impossible to pass on anyway (since we were adopted), time magic become more unlikely.
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>>21422237
>>21422240
I KNOW it should be impossible.
But how ELSE do you explain time slowing down?
I mean it shouldn't be possible, but we've seen Lancer pulling a sword, and we know THAT shouldn't be possible either, so who knows what other rules might be breaking down?
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>>21422240
Also, in FS/Z, didn't Kiritsugu kill his dad before getting the Emiya family crest? If so, Time Alter was either am innate ability to Kiritsugu, or he learned the ability from someone.

>>21422265
Is that why? Huh. I don't remember that bit from the VN. Of course, it's been a few years since I read it. Meta: So, can Gilgamesh go into Spirit Form, now that he's been effectively 'resurrected' / stabilized by the previous grail? IIRC, he appears and disappears frequently in the FS/N VN in his civilian outfit.
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>>21422317

I don't know if Gil would be able to go into spirit form or not, but I would assume not, since the Grail mud resurrected him.
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>>21422317
His has his armor inside of his treasure, along with his spaceship, so he can just warp it in and out of being. Saber cannot become intangible even though she is a Servant because she is alive in two places in time, but Gilgamesh became a proper Servant, even if he is alive now, so it could go either way for him.
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>>21422302
Technically, the rules were always more like guidelines, because they were established not only with the intent that they would be unbalanced but with the intent that they would be broken later on.
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>>21422317
>Also, in FS/Z, didn't Kiritsugu kill his dad before getting the Emiya family crest?
The Association allowed him some of the crest after his father's death.
>>21422302
Instinctual Reinforcement of his brain and/or nervous system? It could, theoretically, explain the seeming slow down in time. Or it could have just been simple prose for the story's sake.
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>>21422370
Plus it's the Nasuverse, where "THE RURUS" are really just "THE RURUS as known by the guys in-universe".
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>>21422282

>Same way Caster buffed her Master.
>Caster's master won a fistfight with Saber.
>Physical boosts to Saber level.
>Projection magic equals instant limited mastery of the weapon in question.

Jesus CHRIST. If you're right, we're going to kick the shit out of servants as soon as we get this sorted out.

>>21422317

I know the light novel said that he had the crest, in fact the Emiya crest was so well developed it took up most of his back.

Time magic was most of his dad's specialty, since he was attempting to refine the magic to sorcery level to reach the Root.

Kiritsugu could do what he did because he managed to artificially create a lesser reality marble, and combined it in himself to bend time on the fly. I think Lancer's master said as much when he figured it out.

>>21422317
>>21422352

Gil I'm not sure if he can go invisible or not. I can't remember him ever doing it in the VN. I'm pretty sure he just walked around.
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>>21422360
I figured he kept his Armor inside the Gate of Babylon when he wasn't using it. I just seem to recall early in the VN, where Shirou bumps into Gil and apologizes, but Gil just up and disappears on him. But, as I said, it's been YEARS since I read the VN.
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>>21422396
I doubt Gilgamesh would deign to walk everywhere when he was alone. Aside from his phenomenal physical abilities and his spaceship, he does have other vehicles, including a motorcycle.
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"Scouting would be a good idea." I respond. "I'm not even sure how much I'm lacking, so knowing what our enemies are capable of is a good start."

Rin nods. "Alright then. Should we stick together, or split up to cover more ground? And which side do you think we should go on? Shinto or Miyama?"

[ ] Together, Shinto.
[ ] Together, Miyama.
[ ] Separate, Shinto.
[ ] Separate, Miyama.
[ ] Separate, different sides of town.
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>>21422521
I won't lie...i have forgotten which side of town is which.

In either case, together.
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>>21422432

I don't know why, but that gave me the mental image of Kirei giving Gil one of those 'loose cannon, turn in badge' lectures with a mildly irritated Gil and a newspaper asking if Fuyuki's about to be invaded by aliens.

The idea that Gil had to be talked into buying an expensive as fuck sport bike because it would be LESS conspicuous amuses me greatly.

>>21422534

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Fuyuki_City

Feel free to educate yourself before you make your choice.
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>>21422521

Seperate should be fine if its on the same side of town.

Also Miyama. Thats where most stuff happens.
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>>21422521
>[x] Together, Miyama.
Might out as well scout out our side of the bridge.
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>>21422521
Shinto, because I believe that is where Kiritsugu kept some of his shit and we could run into Raiga.
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>>21422566

Miyama city it is.

And separate.
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>>21422534

Same...I forget which side is which.

Separate, Miyama.

Did we teach Rin how to make calls yet? We should in case shit goes SNAFU.
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>>21422521
who knows what we might find

>[x] Together, Miyama
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>>21422566
"Will you be wanting the spaceship, Gilgamesh?"
"In the day, Kirei? Not very subtle."
"The sport bike then. Much more subtle."
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>>21422593

And teach her how to text.

Silent information sending is a godsend.

Especially in class.
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>>21422521
Together, Miyama
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>>21422607

Oh god, why can I see that happening?

Even a massive dick as he can be, he had to be doing SOMETHING to entertain himself for the last decade.

Why not fight crime?

You guys need to stop giving me ideas, since Fate isn't nearly as sacred a ground to me as most people.
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>>21422634
Dude, Gilgamesh fighting crime both makes complete sense (they're mongrels, he can beat up on them, and he receives the public's adoration for it) and is hilarious enough that I'm surprised they never did it in Carnival Phantasm.
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>>21422634
now i wonder what would happen if Gil became a fan of Batman
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What's winning? I think it's to scout Miyama together?

>>21422566

Just realized that thing has a MAP. That will make this SO MUCH easier.
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>>21422655
You are now aware you would read the fuck out of Gilgamesh Batman Quest
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>>21422714

Yeah, I already have it open in another tab.

Thanks for sharing with the rest of the class though.
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>>21422714
What I love is it doesn't say which is Shinto & which is Miyama.
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>>21422732

If I decide to do Carnival Phantasm shit on the side or something, Bat-Gil is going to appear at some point.
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>>21422738
Shinto is the right, Miyama is the left. I believe Shinto may hold some of Kiritsugu's things, like that locked storage container that was mentioned.
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>>21422751
Actually, that reminds me. Kirei said he was no familiar enough, but will you be including any other Type-Moon works? For instance, will we run into Shiki, Shiki, Shiki, Shiki, or Shiki?
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>>21422714
I love how the Tohsaka & Matou are, literally, living right beside one another.
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>>21422634
In that case, I think we need to give you more ideas, and have you run with them.

>>21422655 >>21422732

"I am... Goldman."

Kotomine Kirei was many things. A man of the cloth, yes. A man of near infinite patience, yes. A man with no sense of right or wrong? Yes. "What... are you doing, Gilgamesh?"

Gil turned from the television to provide the mongrel his beautiful profile, and so he might witness and behold the beauty of his new accessory. "I am.... Goldman!" he repeated himself, as much as he was loathe to do so.

Kirei looked at Gilgamesh, who was now sporting an elaborate mask made of gold, and back to the television, which was displaying reruns of the 1970's Adam West Batman. "I do believe you realize this, however... we are in Japan, Master Gil."

"Indeed we are. Your point?"

Kirei sighed. "Your... moniker should be in Japanese, if you desire to set the proper fear in your victims."

Gilgamesh slapped his fist into his palm with a metallic clang. "Of course! But then, what should I call myself?"

And so the legend of KinKaiser was born.
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>>21422732
>Implying I was not already aware of that
>>21422751
Pic. Related.
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>>21422761
What about SHIKI?
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>>21422771
Oh shit, I knew I was forgetting something.
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>>21422766

>KinKaiser

Yes.

Fund it.
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>>21422766

Or Kamen Rider Kin?
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>>21422792
Not Batman enough.
Besides, if we're doing that then Shirou would have to be a Kamen Rider-inspired inferior counterpart.
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>>21422732
>>21422751
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>>21422801

Fuck you, Jim.
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Ok ok guys, Gil being the hero Fuyiki City needs can come another day.

Right now, we need to be focused on our main goal: Fucking Rider.

Wait...i got that wrong didn't I?
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>>21422832

Guys...what about

Rin/Rider/Shirou threesome
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>>21422832
I can get behind this. Behind....
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>>21422838
Rin/Rider/Shirou/Ayako foursome.
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>>21422824
jim? now i am confused, i'll just assume that you were thinking of someone else and hopefully we'll both walk away from this on a high note
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>>21422838
I'm not strictly opposed to this. In all likelihood though we'll have to give Shinji the sword and then give Sakura the "sword" beforehand.
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>>21422832
Rider ends up *Prana Transferring* us wither we want her to or not.

>>21422838
Didn't that already happen? I mean, Rider was pretending to be Rin in that illusion based *Forced Prana Transferring* sequence, right?
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>>21422865

Yeah, but it wasn't really a threesome, since it was still Shirou and Rider wearing Rin's guise.
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>>21422849
I give this the Rance seal of approval.

But first things first: we have to stop the Bloodfort and shanghai Rider away from her current master. Thats step 1.
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>>21422849
>Ayako
Haha!
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>>21422885
Why is /tg/ so obsessed with sex?
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>>21422895
It's less about the dickings and more that "foursome" is faster than "four member polyamorous romance with all participants being equal".
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>>21422895
Its F/SN, we're going to be fucking SOMEBODY at some point. May as well go for gold.
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>>21422923
So... you're going for Gilgamesh, then?
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>>21422920
When you put it that way, can we just go back a step or to and leave it at "obsessed with sex"?
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>>21422953
I guess. If you really have a problem with polyamorous relationships between groups of consenting adults.
Next you're gonna say you don't like lolis. Fuckin' pervert.
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>>21422940
There are worse things than death here.
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>>21422920
>>21422838
>>21422849
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"Scouting Miyama sounds best for now, and we should probably stick together."

She nods. "We should be aware of the Masters closest to home first. I already think I know where Ilya might be headquartered, since the Einzberns have some sort of a Villa out in the forest."

"What about the Matou house?"

"They were Magi, but the magic died two generations ago."

"Two generations? What about Zouken?"

"Eh? Zouken?" Rin asks, turning to me.

"Yeah, Sakura's Grandfather, I met him a couple days ago."

"You think he's a mage?"

"I have no idea, I didn't really think about it at the time." I respond, thinking.

"Exactly what happened?" Rin asks, leaning in.

"The other day, Sakura was acting like she wasn't feeling well. I happened to be passing close by, and stopped near their house, wondering if I should check in on her. That's when her grandfather said he was calling the cops and tried to beat me with his cane."

"What?"
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>>21422965
>polyamorous relationships between groups of consenting adults
Yeah, but what is the appeal? Where is the draw? Can you really find an entire group you like, let alone could love?
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>>21423010


"Apparently Sakura had some guy bugging her about something, and he thought I was the guy. When I told him I was a friend of his grandchildren he apologized and introduced himself."

".... I think I remember my Father mentioning Zouken. What kind of an impression did he give?"

"Have you ever met one of those old soldier types? Or one of the old martial arts masters? Age kinda took their strength away, but there's still an air about them?"

Rin, Saber, and Archer all kinda nod slowly.

"Well if he is a mage, then he'll make for a dangerous opponent if he's a master."

"You think so?" I ask.

"Magi on the whole can be rather cut-troat. If he's gotten old, odds are good he didn't get that way by being weak or stupid." Rin responds with a sigh. "In any case, let's put him down as a maybe and move on. If he isn't, we don't want to upset him or our friends by peeking in on them. If he IS, we'll be tipping our hand by arriving with servants."

"Mmmm. Let's stay on the north side of town then, and work our way south. If we stop to get groceries, then it'll be our excuse to Taiga if she asks. I'm running low on rice and bread anyway."

We head out into the street. Almost an hour passes with no results, when something catches the corner of my eye.

Purple hair. Only two people I know of with that weird color are Shinji and his sister.

[ ] Investigate.
[ ] Ignore it.
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>>21423010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NelBNtNm8l0
Zouken confirmed for Japanese magical rapeworm Clint Eastwood.
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>>21423031

[x] No question about it
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>>21423031
>[ ] Investigate.
What would Shinji or Sakura be doing wandering the streets?
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>>21423031
>[X] Investigate.

KinKaiser Rider Kiaku!
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>>21423031
>Shinji
>FUCKING SHINJI
INVESTIGATE WITH THE FORCE OF AN INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE
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>>21423034
Did you know that Araki used Clint for character inspiration?
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>>21423031
[X] Investigate.

INVESTIGATION HO!
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>>21422634
Kill sacred idols, make Gil a vigilante.
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>>21423018

Personally, I can't see a particular draw of a Harem to a one woman deal. I mean, there's ups and downs for both sides. Most people just think 'more bitches for the swag pile', which while admittedly tempting, don't seem to realize that for each additional woman you're putting a minimum of half again as much work into keeping them happy.

That said, I actually know at least two 'couples' that are polymorous, and they seem quite happy together.

>>21423058

Did he like, really hate Dirty Harry or something?
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>>21423058
Yes I did.
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>>21423031
>[x] Investigate.
Let's get on this.
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[X] Investigate [spoilers]Rin's panties[/spoilers].
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>>21423094

...

well shit

damn spoilers
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>>21423069
>Did he like, really hate Dirty Harry or something?
Why would you think that? He based Kujo's appearance on him, and they actually met earlier this year.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-10-14/jojo-bizarre-adventure-creator-meets-clint-eastw
ood
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>>21422990
It's okay, Gil is usually the bitch in these sorts of things. Fujoshi told me so.
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>>21423003
You HAVE to give me the name of the doujin this is from.

>>21423031
[x] Investigate.
Doesn't Rider have purple/violet hair too?
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>>21423119
>dat pic
Her Riding is ranked A+!
Makes you wonder what she could do with a Sukhoi...
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>>21423128
She'd make that shit DANCE, obviously.
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>>21423003
Is there a source on this? Shirou's breaking brain amuses me.
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>>21423105
I'm terrible with names. I thought he was one of the type moon guys from the context.
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>>21423114
Gil is the top man with men and with women. Surely you would expect no less from a king.
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>>21423137
You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7f_kI5aREp8#t=201s
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Hurrah! Another F/SN quest! I can live up to my name again and still be /tg/ related!

[X]Investigate. More info is a Good Thing (tm)
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>>21423185
Yes. Complete with aircraft transformations and a soundtrack that no one can find the source of.
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>>21423185
Did he just use thrust-vectoring to literally PIROUETTE across the sky?
...
I'd forgotten about that scene.
Now, I know for a fact that the G-forces involved would turn just about any Human pilot's brain into mush attempting that shit, but it's still fucking awesome.
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>>21423181
Unless he's been Gender-swapped as a Queen. In that case, a Gil is fine too.
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>>21423230
>Implying Femgil wouldn't still be top
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>>21423119
>>21423167

http://exhentai.org/g/157815/b635d2d3a8/

It's all about breaking shirou and making his life miserable, though. Heh.
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I follow my hunch.

"See something?" Saber asks beside me.

"Yeah, hold on. I need to double check." I respond, taking a few steps past, and looking. It's definitely Shinji, and he appears to be carrying some kind of large, old book.

I report my findings back to Rin. "An old book huh?" she says over the phone. "Let's try not to spook him. I'll keep Saber with me and send Archer with you. You're friends, right?"

".... Kinda." Truth is, our relationship has been a bit more... strained, lately. "He'll definitely be less suspicious of me though."

"What happens if he says something weird? Can you act dumb?"

"You have no idea." I respond easily, before hanging up the phone. A moment later, I feel Archer's presence, before he mutes himself as much as possible.

I see Shinji up ahead, he seems to be watching for something.

[ ] Confront him.
[ ] Keep my distance.
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>>21423248
>[ ] Keep my distance.
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>>21423248

>"Can you act dumb?"
>"You have no idea."

I am laughing so hard, I am in physical pain.

Oh god, YES.

>Confront him.
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>>21423248

[x] Keep distance and tail
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>>21423248
If I may bring in meta-knowledge, SHinji with a book is Dangerous Shit. Proceed with caution

[X]Keep my distance
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>>21423248
[x] Keep my distance.
Maybe this is when he ambushes Ayako?
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>>21423248
>[ ] Keep my distance.
He's up to something. Lets find out what.
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>>21423248
become one with the hunt

>[ x] Keep my distance.
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>>21423248
[X] Confront him.

"Is that porn?"
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>>21423248
>[x] Keep my distance.
Follow that little fuck. We need to find a good reason to shank him.
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>>21423282
Boy i hope so, because that would be the perfect excuse to introduce him to a whole new spectrum of pain.

Pic somewhat related.
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>>21423248
I don't care what we do beyond >[X] Steal The Book.

So, proceed. and >[X] Steal The Book.
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>>21423003
I would also like to ask for source, google gives no results and IQDB gives two hit, but niether have useful tags that I can see.
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>>21423317
So once we confirm what's going down do we cut his arm off our steal his book. We need to incapacitate this "master."
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>>21423332
Here >>21423245
Thanks for that by the way.
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>>21423337
1. Steal book
2. Cut off arm
3. "You can have one of these back when you learn to be nice to others."
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>>21423354
If you do that, you will break him. And then he is going to kill people.
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>>21423224
They don't call him Jenius for nothing.
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>>21423360
It's easier to reshape something once it has been broken.
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>>21423319
Actaully, ignore my previous post.

[X]Steal the book would be hilarious, fun, and would probabluy be brushed off as playful goading between old friends.
Does Shirou drink in F/SN? if so, we could totally write off this act as him having a bit tio drink with his boss after work.

[spouiler]Off topic, when to you plan on posting, AC-Guy. My schedule is whack right now, so knowing when you're gonna fire up the thread would be really bitching[/spoiler]
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>>21423360

>implying he'd have the courage to do that

He only rapes Sakura because she's so timid, and he's only arrogant because he has Rider.
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>>21423373
Depends on how it is broken.

>>21423381
And that lasts as long as it has to, because that is all he has. You do that, he loses his shot, his arm, and every reason to be afraid or to hold back. He will kill people and it will be your fault.
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>>21423360
>And then he is going to kill people.
With what? He wouldn't control Rider anymore, plus he'd be, y'know, hospitalized from getting his fucking arm cut off.
>>21423370
But that wasn't Maximilian Jenius. It was Isamu Alva Dyson. Fun fact, he's voiced by Brian Cranston in the English dub. You are now picturing Walter White flying a Variable Fighter.
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I keep my distance, and I see Shinji suddenly smile and mumble something before moving on.

I see... Ayako? Is Shinji?

Yes, he's definitely moving towards Ayako.

What the hell are the two of them doing out of school? Class isn't out for another hour.

[ ] Follow.
[ ] Confront.
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>>21423407
>[ ] Follow.
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>>21423407
Step in. Talk him down, get him out of the war, but do not cut his fucking arm off.
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>>21423381
Afraid I disagree. IMO, he became amondo dick after He found out his adoptive sister would be supplanting him as an inheoritor of the family magecraft.[s/poiler]

I'd like to think we could redeem him. He's a misogynistic shit and distasteful person, but I've seen even people like this come to regconize the error of their ways.

However, despite it not being Shirou-like, I have little problem with taking him out if he's unwilling to change. SOemtimes heroes have to get their hands a bit dirty, and Shinji at his worst is the poster child for the banality of evil.
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>>21423248
[X] Keep my distance

With extreme prejudice.
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>>21423380

I have a twitter I use for AC-Quest. I'll probably post there with something like 'Kirei-sama can fuck himself with a rake' like I did this time.

twitter.com/ArmoredQuest
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>[ ] Confront.
Oh naw...BITCH NAW.
We KNOW what Ayako thinks of Shinji. She wouldn't be skipping class with him.
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>>21423407

[X]Follow
This is interesting. I want to know more. Are the two having a tryst? Why are they out after wschool when they're both supposed to be the poster-children of responsible student-hood.
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>>21423407

[x] Follow

Innocent until proven guilty... At least for now.
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>>21423404
>Thinking Isamu is Max Jenius

Fuck, I need to sleep.

Also: we don't have to cut Shinji's arm off. Just burn the book. And beat his ass.
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>>21423407
[x] Follow.
But be ready to
[x] Confront.

>>21423380
>>21423416
Dude. You totally suck at spoilers.
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>>21423407
[X] Follow. Don't pull the trigger until we have reasonable cause.
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>>21423407
[X]Follow

we will wait 'till he is too distracted, then we can strike
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>>21423444
But we can't be her hero 'til there's something to save her from. Just like Sentinel V3 can't take revenge if there's nothing for him to swear vengeance about. Thus why he arranged for the deaths of the very group that payed for his superpowers. Then arranged for a sidekick with regenerative powers.

The Sentinel chapters are fucked up. Even for Franken Fran.
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>>21423439
>twitter.com/ArmoredQuest
You sir are a gent
Still saying we {X]Follow. The more we learn, the more we can piece together how this Grail War bullshit works (and then win, and then have delicious romantic relations with the best girl, i.e. whichever girl we end up with the most relationship points with
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For all you Ayako fans.

KinKaiser!

http://pastebin.com/FkqUDDv2
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[X] Confront.

HEY SHINJI WATCHA DOIN
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>>21423407

[X} Follow.

Once he makes his move he has no excuse and he's going down hard.
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>>21423439
>Kirei-sama can go fuck himself with a rake

Well I know what this thread's archive description is going to be.
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>>21423407
>[x] Follow.
We gotta be sure on this.
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>>21423458
I just came back from the bars. I apologize for nothing except for posting on 4chan in the first place.

I didn't mean that. I still love you guys! You're all awesome and fun!
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>>21423486
>Fuck you. Not going to happen.
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>>21423512
Maybe you should turn in man. You can read this on one of the archives come morning.
>>21423486
Heh.
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>>21423486
>All three command seals burned off in an instant, as Rider turned to leave. “Fuck you. Not going to happen.”
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>>21423524
You're right. I really should get some rest.

Still: play it smart: follow SHinji, get at take on the situation. but, be prepared to drop and say hello to these folks at a moment's notice. My Eye of the Mind (False) rank B says something interesting will happen if we do so.


>All three command seals burned off in an instant, as Rider turned to leave. “Fuck you. Not going to happen.”

PWNT!
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Wait, does "confront" necessarily mean we go all "HEY, SHINJI, ARE YOU PART OF A SECRET MAGICAL MURDER COMPETITION," or can it mean we just sort of, you know, intercept the guy? Like...

"Hey, Shinji," he said, putting an end to the boy's sneaking mission with just enough plausible deniability.
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>>21423563

We need to give him enough rope to hang himself.

I wonder if we can reinforce our ears to hear what they're saying.
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>>21423578

Or we can ask Archer to lip read.

He can probably do that.
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>>21423563
hopefully the latter, maybe we can come up with a excuse of wondering when he'll notice us, keeping it playful of course
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>>21423563

Why don't we just cockblock him?

Just turn on our Shirou swag and let the rest handle itself?

Maybe Archer can get us some bitchin' shades first...
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Dammit, aren't we supposed to be a hero?

If we're willing to let Shinji possibly kill Ayako just so we know how to make a move against him, that's the same as getting one man die to save ten!

And that's just not down, man.
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>>21423580
>implying he wouldn't troll our asses
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>>21423594
To be fair, we don't know hes become a crazed murder-hobo yet. And i'm assuming between us and Archer we'll be able to intervene before things get out of hand.
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>>21423594
Dude, from a non-meta standpoint, we don't KNOW what's going on. We can't just barge in and solve all our problems by killing them.
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>>21423594
In character it's probably more along the lines of. Oh shit Ayako and Shinji, who we know hate each other, are having a meet and greet in some shady alley.

We should probably make sure that Ayako doesn't straight up murder Shinji.
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>>21423594
Shirou doesn't know what's about to go down. We do.

Meta-knowledge and character knowledge are two vastly different things.
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>>21423630
Worked for Kiritsugu.
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>>21423656
Well until we take up cigars and scotch, we cannot really occupy that mantle.
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>>21423656
No. It didn't. In the end, he hated that he couldn't save everyone.
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>>21423656
Yes, but he solved his problems by killing them WITHOUT barging in.
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>>21423656
To be fair, most of the situations kiritsugu found himself in, he already knew everyone involved wanted him dead. Therefore, barging in, kicking down doors, and solving all our problems via murdering them was a justifiable course of action.
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>>21423689
Well we just have to be better than him, then. Surely we are saving countless lives by killing people. A lot of people. In fact, all of the people. The ones who do not die deserved to live.
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>>21423700

Not only that, but Kiritsugu had the means to deal with any problems. We only have Reinforcement and limited sword skills.

(Archer doesn't really count in this instance because he's on loan to us)
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>>21423699
Yeah, they came barging into him.

>>21423689
>>21423700
>thatsthejoke.tiff
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>>21423604

Not when lives are at stake. At least I believe hes better than that.
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I see them begin to leave the markets area, and sure enough Shinji steps forward to confront her outside an alleyway not much further along.

"Why Hello, Ayako." He greets her with a smile.

"Shinji." She says, surprised at his sudden appearance. "What are you doing here? Shouldn't you be in school?"

"My Grandfather asked me to stay home, run a few errands." He responds, before tilting his head. "Speaking of, why aren't YOU in school? I'm just a lowly sub-captain, but as the captain of the Archery club you have a duty to be a shining example."

"My Mother's sick." Ayako responds, "I'm out to care for her until the fever breaks." She answers, pulling a bottle of some kind of medicine out of her bag.

"Oh." Shinji says, belligerence gone in a heartbeat. "I'm sorry to hear that. Heh, and here I thought I stumbled on prime blackmail material." His tone changes from a apologetic to smug in record time. "Would you like me to escort you home? The streets are dangerous these days for a woman alone, and I'd hate for your mother to worry more when she's already got her health on her mind."

"No, I think I'll manage." Her brash temperament gone as she takes a step back, clearly confused by his sudden concern.

"You're sure?" He asks, learing at her.

"Piss off."

"Manners." he chides softly.

"Servant." Archer says in my ear.

"Where?" I ask, just before a chain loops around Ayako's neck and yanks her into the Alley.

"THERE!" He responds urgently, and I run to the alley.
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>>21423911
Yeah...that's a stabbin'.
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>>21423911

>ayako is a good girl~

shinjiiiii! I will kill youuuuu~
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>>21423911
Only one path remains.
Lets give Shinji a Grail War he won't believe.
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>>21423911
Shinji, you're about to get Paladin'd.
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>>21423911
time to strike!
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>>21423911
And here is the part where /tg/ overreacts.
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>>21423911
[X] Punch Shinji
[X] Follow that chain

If we beat him retarded here, he might get a priapism so Sakura can keep getting her essential semen intake.

Or, you know, we could just fuck her.

>>21423989
There is no overreacting with Shinji.
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>>21423989
>Implying Global Thermonuclear War would be an overreaction to motherfucking SHINJI
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>>21423989
to be fair here, it's kinda expected
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>>21424022
I never said it was not.
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>>21424029
true but i did said that, and it is my fault for stating the obvious
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>>21423911

I reach the entrance to the alley, and I see Ayako hooked to a fire escape by a long chain that a mysterious girl is holding.

A closer look at her, with the short dress and the weird blindfold confirms my initial suspicions. I send Rin a text telling only servant attack as Shinji turns to face me.

"Oh, hello Shirou." Shinji greets me. "Shame you had to come at such an inconvenient time."

"Shinji, tell me this isn't what it looks like."

"That would depend on what you think this looks like." Shinji responds. "All I'm trying to do is help my poor sister with a bit of heartbreak."

"Heartbreak?" I ask. "What happened?"

"You called him Shirou?" The girl asks. "Is he the one?"

"Quiet Rider." He responds with a grimace, before looking back to me. "It seems my sister developed a crush on a boy that won't return her affections, and now Miss Ayako is taunting her with the knowledge that she already tasted that forbidden fruit."

"You should know." The girl named 'Rider' comments.

"Wait, Sakura has a crush on me?" I respond, before all the implications fully sink in. "Wait, you thought Ayako and I- Shinji, we've barely spoken since I left the Archery club!"

"You lied to me?" Rider asks, turning her face to Shinji. "I only agreed to the plan to despoil the wench because you said she slighted Sakura."

Ayako, looking between me, Rider, and Shinji in equal parts terrified and bewildered speaks up. "WILL SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK'S GOING ON?!?"
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>>21424060

"Everyone shut up." Shinji says, shooting an Irritated look at Ayako. "I'm the only one with a servant here, so I-"

"Have dramatically miscalculated." Archer says, putting a sword to Shinji's neck from behind.

Rider's silent for a moment. "Master would be upset if I let him die when I might do something to save him. Trade him for the girl?"

"I think I have the advantage."

"How? He isn't my Master and I could kill the girl and be gone before you could draw your bow, Archer."

Archer hesitates, then looks to me. "Your call Shirou."

[ ] Kill Shinji.
[ ] Release Ayako.
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FUCK why must this run at unreasonable hours? Time to catch up...
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>>21424063
Well, does your focused hatred overpower your hard-on for as many women as possible? For my part, I care not.
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>>21424063
>[ ] Release Ayako.
We... we can't let her die just to get Shinji.
There'll be other chances to make him pay.
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[X] Release Ayako.

Dammit.
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>>21424063
>[ ] Release Ayako.
PRIORITIES

We know what servant he has, and they've been tricked into thinking we're Arhcer's master. Lets just secure Ayako and call it mission accomplished for now.
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>>21424063
Oh shit this is serious. Let's be cool. First order of business is to secure the innocents.
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>>21424063
>[X] Believe in KinKaiser?
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>>21424063

[x] Release Shinji, have Archer snipe Shinji once we're out of Rider's range
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>>21424063
[x] Release Ayako.

Get the girl back and proceed from there.
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>>21424063
[X] Release Ayako

"If he isn't your master, than can I beat his ass?"
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>>21424089

er, release Ayako, not Shinji

point still stands though
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>>21424063
AC-Guy you are a glorious bastard, for putting me in a situation where I have to let Shinji go in order to save Ayako
Release Ayako.
>>21424077
>Implying my hate for Shinji doesn't stem from what he did to Ayako
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>>21424063
[X] Release Ayako.

Then have Archer live up to his namesake and put an arrow through Shinji's head from a large distance.
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>>21424089
Failing the KinKaiser hijinks, this works well. Seconding.
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>>21424099
Is that the case? Then I must be misremembering, as I cannot recall her to have taken a large enough role to give her a credible, emotional impact.
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>>21424085
BELIEVE!
Even if there is no God, Buddha, or even a fair system of law...
There is, without a doubt, KinKaiser!
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>>21424063

[x] release ayako

Shinnnjiii. "i hope you dont mind me giving him a good hiding for this. Don't worry, i wont kill him."
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>>21424114
Oh. You're THAT faggot again.
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>>21424063
>IMPLYING ARCHER NEEDS A BOW

But no, release Ayako. We're a hero. We save people, not kill them.

Also, take note that Rider said she only agreed to do this for Sakura. Connect the dots. Sakura's involved in the war.
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>>21424114
The quest-goers here have a weird boner for Ayako, but Shinji fucked her up and Rider drained her in UBW I think?

It's a running gag with Ayako thinking she's gay and Rider teasing her in HA.
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>>21424063
[X] Release Ayako.

we can kill him later for this
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>>21424089

No killing of him, yet.

Snipe that damn book. On account of shinji never walking around with one and that it looks like trouble.

Hes still sakura's brother, we can save his soul, yet.
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>>21424135

>we can still save his soul

ha
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>>21424135
Can he use those fake command seals in his magic book to force Rider to kill herself? Because if so I know what we should do if we ever get his back against the wall again.
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>>21424063
[X] Kill Shinji.

We Mind of Steel now.
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>>21424063
[x] Release Ayako.
We'll get another chance at killing the little shitstain. Can't bring Ayako back from the dead.
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>>21424152
I honestly was a little surprised it took so long for a vote to be cast for this.
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>>21424147

We owe sakura to give him this chance.
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Hang on, I just thought of something

What if Archer is testing us? The whole reason he even is in the War is to kill us before we give up our ideals and turn into him, thus freeing him from his contract with Gaia.

So what if he's trying to see if we're willing to throw away our ideals? To become like Kiritsugu and the Shirou that would become Archer?
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>>21424131

It is not a weird boner. Ayako is a lovely girl.
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>>21424182
Ok, he gets ONE.

But the INSTANT he tries his little serial-killer routine again, no force on heaven or earth will save him.
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>>21424189
Pretty sure she's gay though.
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>>21424135
>we can save his soul
Pic says it all.
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>>21424189
She's a bit character.

>>21424200
What if he has KinKaiser?
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>>21424183

To clarify, if we are willing to throw away our ideals, he would kill us. If we aren't, he wouldn't, because we wouldn't have as much of a chance of becoming him.

Because I think this happened in the UBW route. I'm not sure, it's been a while since I've played F/SN and I lost the game file when my laptop suffered two crashes (and I can't find a patch that doesn't require me to have the disk).
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I hardly even hesitate. "Let her go." I turn to Archer. "No innocents."

He nods, and releases Shinji.

Who I immediately punch in the face. "HEY!" Rider yells. "I said you get the girl if I get him back."

"And I said I'd let him live, not that I wouldn't slap his shit. Consider it your measure of payback for lieing to you."

"... In that case, hit him again. And put some feeling into it this time, you hit like a prince's pleasure bitch."

I oblige Rider, and give Shinji a second black eye, before releasing him into her custody. Ayako is set free, and she immediately hides behind me. Rider grabs him and flees, stealthily. I turn to Archer. "Can you get him from here?"

He draws his bow, and hesitates before shaking his head and putting it away. "At this range she can protect him, either by deflecting it or yanking him out of the way."

Saber and Rin appear a moment later. "What happened?"

"Shinji tried to do something to Ayako. Apparently he's working with Rider, but isn't her Master."
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>>21424223

I apologize for my rambling, it's late.
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>>21424232
>not that I wouldn't slap his shit.
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>>21424232
>you hit like a prince's pleasure bitch
Reminds me why I like Rider. She's tall and she's not some shrinking violet.
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>>21424232
I guess Rin has to erase Ayako's memory now.
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>>21424242
Can you possibly make a more pointless comment?
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>>21424245
Fuck that. ALLIES

We collect allies like Kid Vid collects pogs!
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>>21424232

Archer says. "We've also got a bit of a snag." He says, waving to her. "His victim saw the whole thing, and she's clearly not savvy."

Rin sighs. "Only one thing for it then." She says, walking forward and placing one hand on either side of Ayako's head. "Sorry, but it's best this way." She says, and then Ayako collapses.

"Rin, what the hell." I not quite ask, looking at her.

"Knocked her out, purged her memory of the event. We drop her off, and you say you chased off her attacker but didn't see his face."

I hesitate. "Yeah, that might be for the best. She gonna be alright?"

Rin closes her eyes, and gently places a hand on her neck. "She'll bruise, and she'll be sore. She'll live though, and she should be fine in a week at the latest."

I follow her advice, and take Ayako home. Her Mother, clearly ill, thanks me, and I stay long enough to cook dinner for them. Ayako doesn't wake up when I leave, but I trust Rin's assessment.

I meet the three members of my group back at my house a little bit later.

"I'm going to fucking kill Shinji." Rin says, fuming.

"He did involve an innocent, when there was no reason to. He intended to abuse his power for petty vengeance." Saber comments.

There's a pause. "What're you looking at me for?" I hear Archer's voice. "I advocate killing SHIROU and he's technically on our side. you think I have any sympathy for the little shit?"

I enter the room, and they look at me.

[ ] Kill him.
[ ] Spare him, maybe.
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>>21424249
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>>21424232
Rider confirmed for bro tier perhaps?
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>>21424183
Even so, it would stand that Ayako is probably killed / raped in most universes that Archer Shirou could come from. If he had a chance to stop that, I think he would. Because Shirou.

>>21424210
Not if we Kinkaiser first. Because KinKaiser is the Ruler of Justice! Shirou could become his side kick, GinSchwert, the Silver Sword!
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>>21424269
...but pogs

pogs rin

pogs
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>>21424272
>perhaps
There was a question in your mind? Rider is awesome.
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>>21424269
Go ahead, give him his chance. But that does require removing Zouken, of course.
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>>21424232

>inducting ayako into knowledge of the arcane

Haha, expected this.
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>>21424269
>[ ] Spare him, maybe.
We're supposed to be a hero, not a vigilante.

However, make it abundantly clear that if he leaves us with no choice we won't hesitate.
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>>21424232
>you hit like a prince's pleasure bitch

This is why Nasu is a Riderfag.

>>21424269
[X] Spare him, maybe. Mainly because I want him to suffer, partially because Sakura might snap if we haul off and kill her brother/medicating dick.
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>>21424269
[X] Kill him.

He would have killed that girl if we hadn't happened along. He does not deserve life.
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>>21424295

Spoke too soon, fuuuu
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Shit, I don't know how to vote on this...let's leave this up to the roll of my trusty d20. Evens spare, odds kill.

...2.

Spare him, but find a way to destroy that book so he doesn't have control over Rider.
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>>21424269
Neither.

Bring up the fact that RIDER SAID SHE WAS ONLY DOING THAT BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT AYAKO SLIGHTED SAKURA.
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>>21424269
>[ ] Spare him, maybe.
If we kill him, Sakura won't take it well. Shinji's a worm, but she cares about him, for some unfathomable reason, and I don't want to hurt her.
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>>21424269
Meta says kill him. In character I'd say spare him (unfortunately)
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>>21424314
Well I thought that would be obvious, but you have my vote. Remind them that Sakura is the actual Master.
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>>21424282

You realize that when she wakes up, first she's going to be regaled with how a dashing young man named Shirou not only defended her honor and life by killing the murder/rap guy who attacked her, but also cooked dinner out of concern for her and her sick mother before leaving?

Then, the second thing she'll do is eat our cooking.

This is cooking that tamed Taiga, made Rin drop then 'tsun' in 'tsundere', kept saber sharp, kept Sakura from bugging us, and also made Archer miss his mark.

I give her thee hours before she wants in our pants.
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>>21424323
>rap guy
She hates music?
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>>21424269

Spare him, maybe

But we find out the relation to sakura since the servant was awfully concerned about her.

I hope she drops by for dinner today, would be able to talk with her.
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>>21424314
POINT

We need to deal with that little situation pronto. I'd argue that Shinji's life, or imminent lack thereof, is a secondary concern.
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>>21424269
>[x] Spare him, maybe.
Sakura would freak out if we killed Shinji. Hell, her killing Shinji pushed her along on the road to becoming all the world's evils.

We need to keep a really close fucking eye on him. He might go to ground though.

Hopefully, this doesn't push Shinji into doing something desperate now that he's been found out. Like make Rider activate Blood Fort Andromeda.
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>>21424326
>implying rap is music
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>>21424323

Eagerly awaiting the next day in school.
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>>21424326

Rap is hardly music.

Also, it was typo. it was supposed to be 'rape', which is almost as bad.
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>>21424314
>>21424333
Also throwing in for bringing up this fact.
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>>21424323
>murder/rap guy

In west Fuyuki born and raised
In the dojo where I spent most of my days
Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool
And all shooting some arrow outside of the school
When a couple of Magi, they were up to no good
Started making trouble in my neighbourhood
I got in one little fight and my Servant got scared
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>>21424335
>>21424346
Why do neckbeards hate rap so much?

[X] Spare the douche. Inform/infer that Sakura is most likely Rider's Master.
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>>21424323

>This is cooking that tamed Taiga, made Rin drop then 'tsun' in 'tsundere', kept saber sharp, kept Sakura from bugging us, and also made Archer miss his mark.

I am vaguely impressed.

>>21424357

I am vaguely irritated, yet amused.

>>21424367

I don't hate rap as a Genre, but a I hate a lot of specific examples of Rap.

Then again, I also subscribe to Dave's 'theory of musical relativity'.
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>>21424367
I dunno. All I listen to is jap shit and whatever noise video games make, which means as a result rap almost never comes up. I do not hate it, though.
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>>21424367
Our coat should give us +10 to detective power
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>>21424367
As the first guy who made that joke, I was actually kidding. I just despise most modern rap because the genre is, largely, dead. There are exceptions, but the vast majority these days suffers from the same problem as pop music. It's overly-commercialized, emotionally-dead garbage shoveled out to the braindead masses of morons who consume this garbage. Essentially the Reality Television of music.
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>>21424385

Havnd retrieved it from dad's storage locker, though.
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>>21424402
We got the coat out of the closet in the first thread, actually.
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>>21424269
looks like he's stayin alive for now

[x ] Spare him, maybe.


>>21424385
this
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>>21424401
A lot of neckbeards take your joke to be truth, though.

And
>implying hip-hop is dead
>implying rap isn't thriving through mixtapes
>implying radio rap isn't its own genre instead of the sum total of rap music.

Step it up, sempai.
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>>21424407

Oops. He cant be wearing it everywhere, though
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>>21424425
Nice abuse of the quoting function, ``sempai.''
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>>21424269

[X] Kill him.
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>>21424425
Your points are all valid, in truth, and >>21424439 is not me.
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>op post
You're both clusterfucked faggots. seriously.
>quit
>another guy take it
>you come back
>other guy quits
you're going to quit this at the end of the thread, or starting the next one? bah...
Or we're assisting to the birth of multi author open quests?
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"I don't have much love for him either." I say, sitting down in the circle. "I'm not a hundred percent ready to put a hit on him yet, either."

"Why not?" Rin asks, outrage.

"I don't think I could look Sakura in the eye if I had a hand in killing her brother." I answer, looking away. "I don't know. I can't think of any good reason to let him live, especially if he keeps doing shit like this. I'm just not quite ready to kill him. I mean, until recently we were good friends."

"What happened between you two anyway?" Rin asks, looking at me.

"I found out he hit Sakura and beat the shit out of him."

"HE WHAT?!"

"It was one time." I respond. "And as far as I can tell he completely stopped after the.... incident. That's actually part of why I'm not sure I want to kill him. He's a bastard, but we might be able to just beat the stupid out of him."

Rin sighs, Archer shoots me an irritated look. Saber merely nods, as though accepting the fact.

"What I'm more concerned about is the fact that Rider said he wasn't her Master, and inferred that she was only in on it for 'her' sake."

".... What do you think that means?" Rin says, but it looks to me like she's already drawn the same conclusion I have.

"Sakura might be Rider's master. It fits. I don't think she'd hurt a fly, but I could see Shinji stepping in and offering to do the dirty work for her, especially if he sees profit and thinks she lacks the spine."

Archer looks between us. "Sooo.... we kill Sakura?"
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>>21424269
Spare him maybe, because what the shit Shinji explain this in a way that isn't retarded plz kai thnx .

>What're you looking at me for?" I hear Archer's voice. "I advocate killing SHIROU and he's technically on our side. you think I have any sympathy for the little shit?"
>I think I broke something laughing.
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>>21424490

Wrong guy, faget

There were 3 folks involved, not two.
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>>21424490

I don't think he's going to quit. I just think he was irritated that the previous DM was being a prick about the thread not being up yet.

For the record, AC is doing a pretty damn good job. This is one of the better F/SN quests I've read.
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>>21424439
>Marisa go back into /jp/.jpg
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>>21424502
>Archer looks between us. "Sooo.... we kill Sakura?"
Someone best be leaning over to slap his shit.
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>>21424502

>kill Sakura

oh shit nigga wut r u doin
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>>21424502
...Because that is logically what I was about to say. Seriously now you're not even trying any more.
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>>21424502
Punch him in the FACE.
Full whiteknight mode ENGAGE.
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>>21424528
>>21424529
>>21424536
He has a very good point. She is a corrupted grail. If not for the fact that we can use her to make a wish instead of Ilya, I would agree with him.
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>>21424543
You're metagaming SO FUCKING HARD.
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>>21424543

We don't know that Zouken used her as a Grail core though. Hell, I don't even think Future Us knows, because EMIYA didn't come from a Heaven's Feel route.

Also, >>21424553
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>>21424543
I agree. Of course, I do think killing is OTT at the moment considering we don't know what. As far as we're concerned atm, why not just ask Sakura to get rid of her command seal or join us or something?

Doesn't make any sense to leap to the conclusion "Well, Sakura is a master, guess we have to kill her" at the moment, even if I do support it.
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>>21424502
Oh Archer.
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>>21424543
Only works like that in HF, chummer. She needs the push to nom the Servants to work as a Grail.

You see any Shadows about?
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>>21424502
Bad Archer, bad! Now go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
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>>21424553
>>21424561
How is that metagaming? I sincerely doubt you people would let it go and kill her right now even if we did have the chance.
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>>21424580
Because
>If not for the fact that we can use her to make a wish instead of Ilya, I would agree with him.

WE DON'T KNOW THAT EITHER OF THEM ARE GRAILS AT ALL
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>>21424597
But my reasoning is irrelevant if the situation fails to arise until we do know.
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>>21424580
It's knowledge that's only learned of or relevant on the last route by the players, and on like the last day of that route by Shirou.

Shirou doesn't even realize Sakura is crushing on him at this point. Also
>>21424597
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>>21424580

>How is that metagaming?

BECAUSE SHIROU DOESN'T FUCKING KNOW SHE'S A GRAIL CORE
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>>21424605
NOW Shirou knows Sakura's crushing on him. Rider spilled the beans back here.

>>21424060
>"Quiet Rider." He responds with a grimace, before looking back to me. "It seems my sister developed a crush on a boy that won't return her affections, and now Miss Ayako is taunting her with the knowledge that she already tasted that forbidden fruit."
>
>"You should know." The girl named 'Rider' comments.
>
>"Wait, Sakura has a crush on me?" I respond, before all the implications fully sink in.
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>>21424605

Actually... That should no longer be the case after what shinji and rider said. Since shirou isnt totally you-lost-me mode, here
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>>21424580
What everyone else said. It's metagaming so hard even I can see it. And that says something.

For now I think we should question Archer about what he just said. Exactly why is the logical solution "kill everything", Archer, and if so why not just Shinji without asking us to get rid of his servant? Bah.

If we can attempt to reason with Shinji (...well, not brutally murder him, at any rate) there's no reason to believe we can't just talk with Sakura of all people, right?
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>>21424628
I'm certain I made so little sense there it isn't funny.

Rephrasal: Ask him why he didn't just kill Shinji when he had the chance, considering he's hardly beholden to listen to us (that he did is surprising, we'd expect him to do the opposite at this point almost) if he thinks that killing is the solution to everything.
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>>21424618
>>21424625
Yeah, I accidentally a tense there. Didn't instead of doesn't.
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>>21424502

"NO!" The three of us return at once. Archer takes a step back, eyes wide and hands raised in mock surrender.

"She's my s- friend!" Rin yells.

"She loves me!" I let out subconsciously.

"She cooks!" Saber adds, a note of concern in her voice.

We then all pause and look to each other with a simultaneous "What."

"Alright." Rin says pointing at me. "She LOVES you?" Her voice irritated and seemingly betrayed.

"I'm not completely sure." I say. "But Shinji's leverage for Rider to help him amounted to Sakura's feelings for me. Which in retrospect, I should've noticed sooner. And you were totally going to say something other than 'friend'."

"N-no I wasn't!" She protests, then turns to Saber before she can lose momentum. "And your reason to spare her is 'food?"

Sabers eyes go wide with shock, before she looks away embarrassed and scratches the side of her face. "She's a really good cook. I don't think anyone who cooks meals that wonderful can be evil. It just doesn't make sense. Also, I've only met her two times. I don't know her as anything other than 'Sakura the shy cook'." She starts to lose steam and looks back and forth between us like a puppy fearing a beating. "What, I voted to let her live. Yell at Archer."

"An excellent point." I say turning to him.
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>>21424670

"Look, from a purely tactical standpoint, it's the best choice. Not that I expect you lot to notice, since I'm the only one not crippled by hormones." He returns.

"She can be reasoned with, and we might be able to come to terms with her." Rin says.

I choose to mime smacking him with a newspaper while saying 'bad Archer, bad'.

"And then what?" Archer returns incredulously. "We all hold hands and sing for peace? Are we fighting a fucking war or building the Ginger a Harem?!? We have to eliminate servants by either killing them or their Masters! How are you going to talk her into that? 'Hi Sakura, I hope you don't mind but I'm going to pop in here and murder your friend so I can earn a wish I haven't even made up my mind on yet'?" He looks around at us. "Is it just me? Am I the only one who sees how insane you people are acting? Am I taking Crazy pills here?"

"Archer?" Rin says, shocked by the sudden outburst. "Alright, you make good points, but we need to calm down and-"

"Fuck calming down. I'm going for a walk." His physical form vanishes and his voice comes out one last time before his presence departs. "Maybe when I get back you people will have stopped fucking around."

Nobody knows what to say to that, or each other.

I feel the need to say something.

[ ] Sparing Sakura isn't wrong.
[ ] We need to be ready for Shinji's revenge.
[ ] Man, fuck that guy.
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>>21424502
Archer. You're a eunuch aren't you? I mean everything up until this point makes perfect sense then, with you going on about how hormones must be wonderful and wanting to kill everything.
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>>21424670

I am trying not to bust a gut and let my sides fly but it is terribly hard.
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>>21424677
[X] We need to be ready for Shinji's revenge.

We need to be prepared.
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>[ ] Sparing Sakura isn't wrong.

We know her, she can be reasoned with. And Rider seeming...nice.
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>>21424683
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- too late.
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>>21424677
[x] Sparing Sakura isn't wrong.
[x] We need to be ready for Shinji's revenge.
[x] Man, fuck that guy.

Seriously. Fuck that guy.
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>>21424690
*seemed

not seeming

god what is wrong with me tonight.
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>>21424677
[X] Man, fuck that guy.
then
[X] Sparing Sakura isn't wrong.
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>>21424677
>[ ] Man, fuck that guy.
>[ ] Sparing Sakura isn't wrong.
Regardless of any feelings she may have for me, she's a good friend, and I'm not just going to kill her. Especially since she obviously means something to you too, Rin.
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>>21424677

Man, whiplash of feels

[x] sparing sakura isnt wrong
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>>21424677
He has had nothing but valid points, except for trying to kill us. We do need to decide how to address Shinji, though. Get him out of his house, away from Rider and Sakura, might be a good start, and then see what happens.
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>>21424683
>Archer. You're a eunuch aren't you?

You are aware that Archer is Shirou, the only thing in existence with a greater density than a black hole, right? Being a Counter Guardian/Heroic Spirit/Sword hasn't changed that.

Also,
[x] Fuck that guy
[x] Sparing Sakura isn't wrong

>"She cooks!" Saber adds, a note of concern in her voice.

Isn't it sad, Saber?
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>>21424677
[x] Man, fuck that guy.
then
[x] Sparing Sakura isn't wrong.
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Voting against the [] to hell with archer

He is right, from a tactical standpoint but we other concerns are more important to us. We still need him to keep asking the hard questions.
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>>21424715
I am but Shirou isn't, 'sides he could've been castrated later in the timeline. Mostly I wonder how Archer would react to Shirou saying that though.

Still what the fuck Archer you have no wish either aside from killing shirou why so upset?
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>>21424677
[ ] We need to be ready for Shinji's revenge.

there's a good chance that he's gonna try to get back at us for that swoop to the rescue
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>>21424731
Thing is, do we have to kill the Masters?

Speaking as a Nasufag instead of as a player, the main reasons for killing opposing Masters is so they don't dick you over later/cut off your arm and steal your seals. If we're bros with the vast majority of them, this is much less likely to happen.

Killing Servants is a whole different kettle of fish, however.
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>>21424731
I don't think we should hate Archer for playing devil's advocate and voice of reason. There may be a time when the purely logical standpoint is one we'll want to take into account, even if this isn't that time.

Voting against the going [] to hell with archer as well.

We need to figure out what to do about Shinji. Nothing wrong with sparing Sakura, either.
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>>21424773
This isn't Archer being reasonable, this is Archer having a bitchfit. Fuck 'im. He's a big boy; he can take care of himself.
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>>21424771
>the main reasons for killing opposing Masters is so they don't dick you over later/cut off your arm and steal your seals.
And there's the fact that it's virtually always FAR easier to kill the Master than the Servant.
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>>21424787
I mean reason as in logic.

Logically speaking, his solution of dealing with Rider and Shinji is efficient. Kill Sakura, no more Rider. It's not exactly reasonable per se, but it is logical.

I'd rather at least consider it briefly before dismissing it as insane than not consider it at all. An open mind, and all. No need to be as dickish as archer and throw a tantrum about others not sharing our viewpoint.
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>>21424798
But, but, but... most of the servants are bro-tier dudes and dudettes....

[X] Ask Rin if there's any other way to fill the grail besides with the souls of Magi / Servants.
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>>21424798
On paper. Command Seals and tactics make that much less of a sure thing.

>>21424807
But that's not how Shirou rolls. If we were being logical we would've iced Shinji already.
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>>21424807
>I'd rather at least consider it briefly before dismissing it
He proposed that we murder one of our oldest friends. That's not something you give consideration to.
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>>21424825
I know that's not how Shirou works. That's why I'm not advocating killing Sakura.

I am not supporting Archer here, simply stating that he does have a point and that speaking in terms of effectiveness, his solution is probably optimal.

We have other concerns than effectiveness.
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>>21424829
Everything deserves consideration, even if that consideration is so much as "Mmm, no, that's a really fucking retarded idea" which is kind of what I'd imagine the case to be here.

Nor is there no need to throw a tantrum given that Archer is, well, right. Also because it'd put us on his level.

Archer's solution in this case is terrible, yes, but I think it's best not to get worked up about it. I might be being a little too calm and logical here, honestly.
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>>21424814

Well lets math it out.

If i recall the scene where the Shadow eats Gil in the HF route, his soul is extra-tasty, so lets say he counts for 2. That leaves us with 4 slots to fill.

1. Assassin would be one, because who cares about him?
2. Probably can't save Lancer since he's primarily in it for the sake of fighting, and for that reason I doubt he would want to be saved.
3. Berserker is obvious, no point in keeping a 'zerk around.
4. Archer, probably? We don't need two Emiyas around, and he'll probably try to kill US at some point.

If the Gil=2 assumption is correct, we could get out of it with Rider, Saber, and Caster.
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>>21424876
>Caster
I haven't been following this too much, but this isn't Extra Caster by any chance? Love me some fluffy tail.
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>>21424856
Not everything requires consideration. There are ideas that are obviously unworkable for various reasons, and considering them is a waste of time. Your logic is flawed because it doesn't take into consideration our allies and human morale, which is the fatal flaw these "logical" solutions tend to have.

If we murder Sakura now that we know she's a Master, we ruin morale with the rest of our crew and are down a Master/Servant pair we could use to fight hostile Master/Servant pairs. Our backup and the people making us competent in this War are also opposed to the idea; if we lose them we lose our chances at advancement. We'd make our (vastly stronger) fighting partner leery and our guide to the Grail War disgusted. Archer just likes fucking with us, so we'd be essentially on our own again. Which makes us a sitting duck for hostile Masters.
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>>21424896

No. Housewife caster...

Actually all the female casters have been wife material.
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>>21424896
Not that we are aware of. Haven't had any interaction with Caster yet.
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>>21424902
Gilles de Rais was the husbando in their relationship, which is essentially a waifu for fujoshi.
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I sigh. "Man, fuck him."

"Is he really wrong though?" Rin asks. "it would solve all of our problems-"

"No it wouldn't. From a certain point of view, that point of view being the one of a complete sociopath, it makes an objective amount of sense. But I also know, from a purely tactical view point that even if I had the perfect shot, it's Sakura. I couldn't pull the trigger and I won't pretend otherwise." I sigh. "My point of view is even more warped because I don't care about winning the war. I don't have a wish. I just want people, especially the ones I care about, to survive it. From his point of view, it makes sense. From mine, it's unacceptable. You can make up your own mind, but I refuse to acknowledge that wanting to not murder one of our friends is 'wrong'. Fuck that and fuck him."

".... Shirou," Saber begins. "Did he mean it when he was talking about a.. 'Harem'?" Rin turns CRIMSON. "I'll admit that I'm fond of you, but that's a bit... much."

"Man, I don't even know. Honestly. I'm trying not to even think about my hormones and the related emotions. Plenty of time for that when we're not all dead from people chasing after a magical wish-cup. Also, I'm pretty sure that was mostly just Archer flipping his shit."

Rin sighs. "Well, ignoring Archer's not entirely unjustified tantrum, we've made progress. We know there's a Rider working with Shinji, who may or may not be her Master. In either case...."

"In either case, they live like a block away from you. Do you want to stay here for now? There's plenty of room and we have the false pretense of my health to keep you covered from Taiga's point of view."
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>>21424876
Meta: Caster summoned her own servant in the original VN, did her Assassin-class servant Sasaki Kojirou count towards the grail? If yes, then Caster counts as two as well, assuming she also summons him in this Quest.
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>>21424876
>who cares about him?
His bro cares.
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>>21424876
>Probably can't save Lancer since he's primarily in it for the sake of fighting, and for that reason I doubt he would want to be saved.
I dunno, if he gets a chance at better fights working with us than against us, then we can probably rely on him.
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>>21424917
Block away? Don't the Matou and Tohsaka estates share a back yard? It looks that way according to the map posted above. It's their front doors that are facing away from each other by half a block.
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>>21424919
Remember that even after Caster died, he continued to exist for a while because he was drawing power from the location he was bound to, not her, she just had the Command Seals. I'd say he counts.

Also, depending on how this plays, we might end up with REAL Assassin running around, which would certainly count. But god help us if we end up on that path.
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>>21424917

Rin hesitates, and I can't quite tell if she's suppressing a blush. "... Yes. It makes sense, I'm teaching you, we're allied, it's farther away from our known enemies, and as you said: plenty of space." She then looks at me. "And don't be reading too much into Archer's comments just yet. I certainly don't hate you, and we're on friendly terms, but-"

[ ] - anything resembling romance can wait.
[ ] - you don't like me like that.
[ ] Blank, uncomprehending stare.
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>>21424955
For some strange reason... I *would* like to buy a Camel.

>>21424960
>[X] - anything resembling romance can wait.
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>>21424960
>[ ] Blank, uncomprehending stare.

my fucking sides
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>>21424960
>[ ] Blank, uncomprehending stare.
Let her say it, or leave it unsaid, herself.
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>>21424960

Shirou-style relapse time.
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>>21424960
[X] Blank, uncomprehending stare for effect, then anything resembling romance can wait.
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>>21424960
>[X] I don't follow
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>>21424960
>[X] ...You lost me.
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>>21424960
[X] Blank, uncomprehending stare.

Complete with head tilt and confused expression.
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>>21424960
[x] - anything resembling romance can wait.
No denying; accept the possibility and contemplate it further later. We have a war to fight first.
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>>21424960
>[X] Still not following you here
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>>21424960
You lost me.
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Even if we're playing shirou, we still enjoy seeing him suffer.
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[X] Blank, uncomprehending stare.
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I stare at her.

She stares back for a minute. "You know...." She says, hesitantly.

I continue to stare.

"Oh come on, you know what I mean!" She exclaims, getting more flustered by the second.

"Rin? Is he having a stroke?" Saber asks, concerned.

"No, come on Shirou. Do I REALLY need to say it?"

"Say what?" I respond.

"Oh god, you can't this dense." She answers. "Come on, the chemistry..."

"What, you mean Alchemy? Did you forget something? Are we doing that again?"

"What, no, what does Alchemy have to do with this?" Rin asks, bewildered. Saber leans in, and I see her wink. Good girl.

"That's what I'm wondering."

"No, I mean OUR chemistry!"

"I am so confused."

"Like you and I we're like- ugh. Saber, help me out here."

"Why?" she asks. "I'm hardly getting between you and Shirou."

"A good idea." I cut in. She's scary when she's mad."

"God!" she yells in frustration. "You're seriously blind to people getting crushes?"

"Wait." I say, looking between her and Saber. "Are you a lesbian? Because I don't want to stand between you and-"

"No, jackass!" She yells, "I mean I think I like YOU!" There's a full beat before she realizes what she said, then she immediately scoots back against the wall mortified, both hands clamped over her mouth.

"Well, I'm glad that's out there already." I say.

"Yes. It was obvious from the start, but now it's not something we have to feign ignorance of." Saber responds with a small smile.

"You're shitting me." Tosaka says, all attempts at composure gone.

"I was. Now, I'm going to make tea." Which i do, after Saber manages to wrestle Tosaka away from her attempt to choke me to death.
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>>21425141
That was beautiful.
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>>21425141
The Clocktower's gonna give us some ridiculous epithet like "The Blade of Wit" or some bullshit like that based on stuff like this, aren't they?
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>>21425141
10/10

So lets recap this day so far:
-Ayako saved.
-Archer lost his cool.
-Rin trolled successfully, and wants our dick.
Today is a good day in the life of Shirou.
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>>21425174
Probably more like "Ragged Edge of Disaster".
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>>21425141

10/10 trolled softly
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>>21425181
>-Rin trolled successfully, and wants our dick.
I think it's more important that she ADMITTED she feels that way. Because this is Rin, who COULDN'T say it outright in the VN. Period. She had to beat around the bush.
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>>21425141

>Optional Goal achieved:
>Got the idea of being lesbians with Saber in Rin's head

Marching ever forward towards Rin's harem.
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>>21425141

A few minutes later, we all sit around the table having tea.

"Alright." I say, looking at Rin. "I apologize for apparently taking the joke too far."

Rin sighs. "And I'm sorry for losing my temper."

"And?" Saber asks.

"...For yelling at you."

"And?"

"... for trying to choke you to death." Rin finally admits. "Since this also went against the terms of our non-violence pact, I'll make dinner tonight as an apology."

"Though I wouldn't say you need to go as far as to cook dinner to make up for it, I appreciate the gesture and the implied meanings, and accept your apology. I also promise to do something so ungentlemanly as to use your feelings, implied or otherwise, as a source of personal amusement."

Archer then reappears in the room. "I'm back, and I think I've managed to calm down enough to talk reasonably."

I turn to him. "While I disagree with your point of view, I can appreciate the reasons you took that stance."

Archer turns to me, clearly shocked to see me offer the olive branch "May I ask why?"
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>>21425281


"Simple. My goal isn't a Grail victory, it's to keep someone evil from misusing the power. My secondary, only slightly less important goal is to minimize the collateral damage and protect the people I care about. That's why I can't support killing Sakura: it flies right in the face of that goal."

Archer takes a deep breath. "Alright, I'm willing to accept that. Killing the master might be easier, but it's not the only way."

"Due to the mixed opinions, I'm voting we table the rider issue for now, and reevaluate our overall tactical position."

Archer hesitates. "Alright, fine." He says with a sigh. "I guess I'll be the bigger man here."

"What?"

"Archer told me about breakfast." Rin says. "How he offered to help you cook, but you refused his peace offering to try and show him up."

THAT CLEVER BASTARD.

Past my incomprehensible rage at being so cleanly outmaneuvered and Archer's small wink, I note that we still have a few hours before we're expecting company. Leaving is probably unwise.

[ ] Spar.
[ ] Magic class.
[ ] THAT BASTARD.
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>>21425141
Delicious.
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>>21425287
>[ ] Spar.
Let Tohsaka stew a little more. You don't disturb the meal until it's ready to eat.
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>>21425287
>[ ] Magic class

I wanna be
the very best
like Archer never was!

Learning magic is our real test
Showing him up is our cause!
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>>21425287
You win some you lose some. We don't have a chance of outtrolling ourself, he's taken our current skill and honed it.

[X] Magic class.
Basic magical theory, make sure we don't miss any of the essential cornerstones of magic. Then we can focus on chemistry, I mean Alchemy.
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>>21425281

>promise NOT to do

Yay, proofreading!

>>21424425

>Step it up, sempai.

Just noticed this.

Since it amuses me greatly and contradicts nothing, Sakura is now a closet fan of rap music.

It is her most closely guarded secret.
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>>21425287

[ ] Spar.

Let's give Rin some space.
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>>21425329
She is dead to me now. The worms can eat her for all I care.

I kid, I kid.
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>>21425287

[x] Spar, then

Gotta rack up those saber points.
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>>21425329
>Since it amuses me greatly and contradicts nothing, Sakura is now a closet fan of rap music.

Yeah good morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGHjp1qHI8g
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>>21425287
[x] Spar with Rin.
Just because we're not going after servants yet doesn't mean we shouldn't be looking at grapples and counter-grapples.
Saber can provide close supervision to ensure we don't hurt ourselves. Or each other.
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>>21425360

>Practising Grappling with someone who finally vocalised her feelings

Not that its a bad idea but I can just see how that practise session is going to go.
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>>21425360
>Girl admits her feeling in the most embarrassing way she could imagine.
>LETS WRASLE!

Yeah because that would end well.
I mean...I don't THINK it would end well...right?
Is this secretly the best idea?
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>>21425360
>>21425371
>>21425385

It's worth noting that you have no idea if Rin knows kung-fu.
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>>21425385
our minds say yes,
our nerves say no

oh the humanity
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>>21425395
Well there's only one way to find out.
I'll need a captain's chair, some random tubes and wires, a computer, and a metal spike, as well as assistance from a sailor in the Vietnam-era American brownwater navy nicknamed Mr. Clean.
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>>21425371
>>21425385
We're not going full Undertaker with her, just basic 'if the opponent grabs you here, do this' type stuff.
Very few people have even that much knowledge, and it would likely come as a surprise to an enemy. That's a pretty neat advantage to have in any circumstance.
Also no, it cannot possibly end in any manner other than SHUT UP ARCHER THIS ISN'T FUNNY.
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I decide that giving Rin her space is a good idea, and head back to the Dojo with Saber.

"So Shirou. I think that as an honorable knight, I'm not supposed to support you toying with a Lady's feelings."

"My goal was not to toy with her, it was to get her to admit those feelings so she wouldn't compromise herself later on. Now that it's in the open between the only people who need to know right now, it's no longer an issue."

"I see." She says, testing the weight of the wooden blade in her hands before moving to a ready position. "And this Sakura?"

"I'll admit to having no idea. I feel guilty for not knowing sooner, but that's not something I can do anything about." I answer, falling into stance and gesturing that I'm ready for her.

"Do you have feelings for her?" She asks lightly, as she delivers a pair of swings to test my guard.

I repel the blows. "Yes. I care for and about her. I'm not sure if they're romantic or platonic."

"Hmmm." She launches a furious attack, and I manage to avoid all the hits while only giving half a step. "Well then, you have at least two women with feelings for you. How do you intend to handle that?"

"Hopefully without breaking hearts." I respond, blocking her newest attack. "Honestly, I intend to see if I can set the issue aside until the war is over."

"Will that make it easier?"

"No idea. Honestly, It might be a moot point because we're all dead."
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>>21425480
>"Well then, you have at least two women with feelings for you. How do you intend to handle that?"
By going for the HIGH SCORE, BABY!
What IS the high score for largest harem in a VN, anyway? And no, straight up all-porn-no-plot games don't count.
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>>21425480

Saber frowns at my answer, but doesn't refute my logic. "You think you can get everyone out alive?"

"I hope so." I respond. "Before I can prepare for the challenges, I have to properly analyze the situation. I'm a terrible Magus, my Servant is crippled by my lack of ability, I'm not yet strong enough to even consider fighting a servant myself, and we still don't know who two of the servants are. We've significantly improved our odds by aligning with Rin. With two servants we're twice as powerful, and between her feelings and my sense of honor I don't think we'll have any trouble keeping the alliance."

"You're using her?" Saber asks, almost angrily.

"If I'm using her, then she's most definitely using me. If I win the war, she wins since I have no reason not to simply hand my share of the prize to her, the way things stand." I parry a few more vicious blows. "Besides, I hardly think she'd object to being used if one of my most important objectives is her survival."

Saber pauses, and nods to me. "For what it's worth Shirou, I think you're a good man and an acceptable master. Your lack of ability bothers me much less than if you instead lacked morals. I had a master like that once."

We spar for almost an hour before we take a break.

[ ] Ask Saber who she is.
[ ] Ask Saber about the war.
[ ]m Ask Saber about the other Master.
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>>21425544
>[ ]Ask Saber about the other Master.
Who, pray tell, could this mysterious dastardly character be?
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>>21425544
>[x] Ask Saber about the other Master.
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>>21425494
Koihime Musou. After beating the game with all the girls, the Harem Route unlocks. you get everybody. I think that's 22 girls, all told.

The only thing that might beat that would be one of the Rance games. But I don't play those - more sex than plot.

>>21425544
[X] Ask Saber about the other Master.
[X] Ask Saber about the war(s). She did let slip that she had been summoned into this time before.
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>>21425544
[x] Ask Saber who she is.
[x] Ask Saber about the war.
If she doesn't feel comfortable with the first, she's free to answer the second.
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>>21425544
[X] Ask Saber about the war.
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>>21425567
Are you saying this thing has TWENTY-THREE ROUTES?!
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>>21425544
[X] Ask Saber about the other Master.

And this can segue into asking about the other wars.
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>>21425567
>>21425571

It hasn't come up yet, but if you wouldn't mind restricting yourself to picking one option at choices, it makes my life easier.
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>>21425571
>>21425567
>People still pick 2 or more choices

Full plebs.
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>>21425544
>[ ]Ask Saber about the other Master.

The anticipation is killing me. I mean, who could it possibly be?
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>>21425582
No, it has three. The others are mini-routes that can be completed simultaneously, and there aren't actually that many iirc (some have multiple girls, for example).

Basically between missions you pick, uh... two main girls, three side options to speak with. There's something like 10-16 side options. Think so, anyway, never bothered to finish it

>>21425544
>[X] Ask Saber about the other Master
Metagame, ahoy!
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>>21425582
Three main routes, with the others being 'mini-routes' you do in between chapters.
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>>21425633
Oh. Okay. That's a lot more manageable.
At the same time my inner completionist is kinda disappointed. That would have been the ultimate challenge.
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>>21425594
Like I care about how easy this is for you. I'm here for my own enjoyment, nothing more. And you're lucky to get my attention; your pacing is bad, your characterisation is poor, and there is nowhere near enough action.
In fact, the only thing keeping me here is the other posters, they're far more entertaining than you, baka.
[x] Ask Saber about the war.
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>>21425639
Are you trying to horn in on my gimmick, you insolent little cur?!
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As we sit down, I ask the question that's been bothering me.

"So what was the deal with this other Master of yours?"

Saber hesitates, and then sighs. "He was brilliant tactician. He was also utterly ruthless and without qualms. He used underhanded tactics, lies and slander to get his way. I found out later that there once was a man he needed to kill on a plane. Rather than come up with an alternate plan, he simply killed almost a hundred people to ensure his death. He brought that same mindset to the war."

"How'd it work out for him?"

"It was fucking brutal." She responds, and her uncharacteristically vicious response catches me off guard. "He had a Master gunned down like a dog after he forced the servant to kill himself. He allowed a child murder to roam free with the power of a twisted caster behind him to distract other servants. He destroyed an entire hotel in an attempt to eliminate the master staying there. He brought his wife along to keep an eye on me so he wouldn't have to deal with me, and later killed her when it suited his goals. He only ever spoke to me three times." she says, and then taps the back of my hand, where my command seals are. "You can guess when that was."
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>>21425648
"Who... who was he?"
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>>21425648

"Wow." I respond, failing to come up with anything else. "I can't imagine what sort of a person would do that."

"The worst part was the ending." She responds. "After everything was said and done, with the Grail before our eyes and our victory complete, he used his final command seal to order me to destroy it." The memory makes her so angry a tear goes down her cheek. "The bastard used me and trampled on everything I held dear as a knight, and I barely tolerated him in exchange for the fact that I would get my wish. I told myself that it would all be worth it if I could get my wish. But even that hope turned to ash in my mouth."

I don't know what to say to that. I settle for the only thing I can do, and slowly put an arm around her. She leans into me, and takes a minute to compose herself.

"Sorry." She says after sitting up straight again, her face having no trace of her earlier tears. "That was undignified."

"I don't care." I tell her. "You don't have anything to apologize for, in fact I feel sorry for making you relive that. I can't imagine having such a horrible Master."

"It is not your fault." she responds. "You are not him. Shall we continue?"

[ ] Yes.
[ ] Back to Tosaka.
[ ] Ask Saber about ____.
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>>21425688
[X] Ask Saber about ____.

Ask when this war was, where it was, if there are any figures that featured in that war and this one.
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>>21425688

She needs some cheering up

[x] More sparring
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>>21425688
>[ ] Back to Tosaka.
Nothing like a good bit of gossip. Girls love talking about that shit.

Also...we can't forget our, uh, secondary goal regarding that topic.
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>>21425688
>[X] Yes.
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>>21425688
Alas, poor Saber.

I suggest continue sparring. I don't think she's in a talking mood right now.
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Just an FYI:
Thread is on PG 5, ad Auto Saging.
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Sorry about the delays, but my internet is fucking up so I think it'd be best if we killed it here tonight.

Feel free to speculate on whatever in the quest with whatever's left before the thread dies.
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>>21425866
Just curious, have be abandoned the dice-roll mechanic in favor of full-VN style, or did we just not choose any options today that you thought warranted a roll?

I'm happy either way, just wondering.
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>>21425880
>Just curious, have be abandoned the dice-roll mechanic in favor of full-VN style, or did we just not choose any options today that you thought warranted a roll?

This quest uses dice?
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>>21425896
We have in previous threads, to some pretty hilarious results. Although I can see how nothing we did today would have called for a roll.
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>>21425567
>But I don't play those - more sex than plot.
Confirmed for only knowing about Rance based on /v/ hearsay.
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>>21425935

Nope. I installed Sungoku no Rance 3. I attempted to ply the strategy game, but didn't like it. So I found a clear save file, and went after the 'recollections' section, which, I reasoned, ought to have some of the plot.

Nope. Just sex scenes.

A lot of people enjoy Rance. I just didn't like the strategy game involved. And as much as I ended up enjoying Koihime Musou, I'm still glad I could skip the battles after winning them the first play though.

Also: Saging a thread that's already deep within autosage? Really? It does nothing at the best of times, so why even bother now?
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>>21425567
>Rance
>More Sex than Plot

Well fuck you too.

And while we're on the topic, here is a better candidate for a female Saber than gender-bender-Arthur.
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>>21425956
Didn't realise we were on autosage, I wasn't saging as a "downvote", it was because my post was unrelated to the thread.
Force of habit than anything else.
Also, downloading a cleared save-file and looking through CG scenes?
Are you fucking retarded or what? Most of the plot comes through character interaction and even then there are plenty of CG scenes with plot, hell even a lot of the H-scenes have plot in them.
Christ you're stupid.
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>>21425956

Umm, recollections are usually the porn. It's there so its easily accessible. So you don't have 30 odd saves when you're fapping.

Plot isn't anywhere in there.
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>Someone insults Rance
>Ignore it like mature gentlemen
>Thread over? ITS ON NOW MOTHERFUCKER.

You amuse me /tg/
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>>21425979
>>21425956
CG005
CG006
CG010
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CG015
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CG022
CG025
CG026
CG027
CG029
CG030
CG031
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CG042
CG064
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CG092
Those are the CGs with major plot relevance, this list doesn't even include all the H-CGs in which plot development takes place, or it would be much longer.
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>>21425993

It's denizens desire more entertainment.
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>>21425975
As I had just finished Koihime, I was hoping the clear file would allow me to skip the battles, like Koihime's did. It did not - or rather, I was unable to figure out how, if it does. Which is sad, as I've actually seen the Rance OAV, and enjoyed it, which is why I went looking for the games in the first place.

>>21426007
You, sir, are both a Scholar and a Gentleman. +1000 Internets to you. I had thought some of the plot would be in there somewhere, since what I did click on had some story elements involved, but at the time I lacked the patience to pursue it.

>>21426009
We do. Myself included.
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When will the next installment be?
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>>21425880
>>21425896

Yes, the dice will be a recurring thing.

Certain things will or won't require dice, depending on circumstance.

Say for instance Shirou's structural magic. I'm never going to make you roll for a trace. That's about as difficult as staring at something REALLY HARD.

The Reinforcement I would only make you roll for in circumstances where it would be difficult: such as being horribly injured. Before, you had to roll for it because Shirou was doing magic the stupid way. now though it's going to be auto-success outside of special circumstances.

Projections, once you've done a few, will probably be free for like the first one or two. Like just holding a sword or something? Free. Trying to summon multiple swords at once (like say to pass them out to your friends)? Will have to make a DC-Check. Trying to pull Gilgamesh style Sword-Bullets? Difficult. Trying to Drop UBW? Wait for a plot point, or expect to most likely shit out your lungs.

In addition, I'm only gonna have you roll when it's something that affects you. If Archer or Saber need to do something hard, that's on them. Not you.
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>>21426102

I have no idea. Monday at the earliest, I still have AC-Quest to run and I need to worry about work/SATs/friends.
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>>21426123

Alright cool. Will just keep tracking your twitter. Thanks for the session.
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>>21425957
Well shit, gender-swapping aside, he actually would make a pretty good Saber.

He was nicknamed the "God of War" and was a contemporary of Oda Nobunaga, and he'd probably get a pretty big boost due to being a hero native to Japan.

Would probably be weak to Assassin though...that could be embarrassing.
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>>21426180

Personally, I want to see Lancelot as Saber.

Imagine him doing all the shit he did in Fate/Zero, only with a determined brilliant tactical mindset and unmatchable swordsmanship.

When it came down to it, all the legends agree: Arthur was better suited to be King, but Lancelot was in many ways the superior Knight. He was the King's right hand for a reason, after all.

Plus, imagine what he could do teamed up with Shirou after he becomes a proper Magus.

Lancelot+UBW. I'm just gonna leave that mental image there.



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