>Magical Girl Gilgamesh

I am intrigued and shall be monitoring.

Last relevant post was a quick summery of what we have so far for our narrator:


Onigawara Yuri
- Hard-working, contemplative, brooding, determined, unyielding
- Large family, lower-middle class. Eldest sister used to taking care of everyone.
- Enjoys cooking and painting.
- Has some sort of really bad medical condition, implied leukemia (?)
- Still not living 24/7 in the hospital, but she's getting weaker by the day.
- Feels that she is now a burden upon her loved ones.
- Wears an adorable hat.
- In Magical Girl mode, conjures and throws knives from afar. Her already impressive perception becomes unnaturally keen. Uses radiation themed magical attacks.
- Plans to use her Wish to return to full health.

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I don't care how or why, but at least one tsukaima has to look like this <<

Say what you may about the ancient Mesopotamians, they had an awesome mythology.

>OP has genderbent Gilgamesh.
> Thread is about generic moe ill girl with hints of Madoka.
Fuck you.

>>21165246
You haven't actually looked at what they wrote so far, I can tell.

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>>21165246
Welcome to Japan, where King Arthur is a faggot chick who acts nothing like King Arthur and Gilgamesh, bro of all bros, is a CRAWLIIIIING IN MY SKIIIIIIN generic lesbian moebitch.

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>Magical Girl Gilgamesh
What does this even have to do with traditional games.

>>21165334
you must be new here.

>>21165334
The idea came from a character generator designed for a role playing game.
Heck, didn't /tg/ help with testing the game out?

>>21165357
/tg/ developed the fucking game

>Magical Girl Gilgamesh
>"So moe I'm going to die"
>"welcome to japan where[tl;dr staple type moon genderbending barking]
>you must be new here.

just, go away.
sage.

>>21165353

Somebody is deleting off-topic threads. So, crossed fingers this one gets deleted soon.

>>21165334

I was under the impression that this was some kind of setting/fluffy writefaggotry thing for Magical Burst? I mean, it isn't any less relevant than any one of infinite discussions about the Warhammer verse, if that's the case. Hopefully actually badass characters will appear soon.

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First Enkidu writeup from the original thread, for some reason missing in the second one:

>What kind of girl are you?
>Tomboy
Hopefully not a surprise to anyone.

>What convinced you to make a contract?
>She begame a magical girl, and now someone's going to have to look out for her.
Retuning to the city only to find that Yuri (ok, I just noticed yURi) has gotten both cancer and magical powers, something obviously needs to be done.

>What is your wish?
>I wish my perfect imaginary lover was real.
Now this could be both her mental image of Gilly, which is almost ads idealized as Gilly's own, or it could be her memory of Yuri through a rose tinted welding mask. Or quite possibly a mix of both, and Enki herself doesn't know how to sort that one out, and she's working quite hard to ignore that.

>Weapon
>Baseball bat
Down to earth, potentially brutal, and she's obviously the sporty type, so now we know which sport.

>Magical Element
>Lightning
Sudden outbursts of untamed nature.

>Magical Power
> Summon Cake
>You have the curious power to summon forth cakes and other sweets. Mostly they're just tasty (if a little unhealthy), but maybe you can find something useful to do with this power.
Fits with the new origin story.

>Costume Elements
>gold
Going for the bombastic here.

>Crisis
>My power went out of control and killed someone.
Barely tamed primal nature again.

>www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/
You forgot this guys

Oh, I forgot
>bro of all bros, is a CRAWLIIIIING IN MY SKIIIIIIN generic lesbian moebitch
ten stars post.

>>21165618
>I am upset other people are having fun without my permission!!!!!!!

Go troll a sex in game wat do thread.

Is anyone actually doing the writefaggotry here behind the scenes or is this just a discussion of characters and such for now?

>21165618
Not all ideas are GOOD. The vast majority are frankly BAD. But if you don't give the weird ones a chance, you'll never find out. Most weird unlikely ideas you'd follow won't go anywhere, but who knows? One might become the next Love Can Bloom.

While I'm loathe to agree with an obvious troll, he does have a point of sorts. While POV character may be very cute, and I'd love to one day read about her, this is supposed to be about Gilgamesh. More focus on Gilgamesh being badass (even if he's a little girl), less on generic moe, should all work out in the end.

What's the idea here? A genderbent gilgamesh, because kaleidostick or something)? An ordinary girl whose transformation turn her into female gilgamesh?
What is it.

>>21165929
As last thread OP pointed out, the plan is to make a story based on the Epic of Gilgamesh in the same way Madoka Magica is based on Faust.
Someone said Yuri works a personification of Uruk.
But yeah, the story itself will have lots of badassery.

>>21165582
The person who wrote that got confused.
The backstory they reffered to was actually for Yuri.

So what do we have about Gilgamesh?

1. King of Uruk.
2. 2/3rds divine, 1/3 mortal.
3. Quite simply the awesomest, most badass person to ever exist: infinitely wise, godly powerful, unbeatable warrior, loved by everyone, So Sexy Even Godesses Want Him.
4. Works his people to death building a giant wall to stroke his own galaxy-sized ego - becoming such an immense dick in the process that THE GODS take offense.
5. Meets a worthy rival and a friend in a city destroying, priestess raping wildman.
6. Wrestles divine bulls into submission then throws their asses at the gods - Kratos is a huge, gaping, wet pussy compared to him.
7. After said friend/rival/lover dies, becomes terrified of his own mortality.
8. Goes on an epic journey to find eternal life only to lose it to a fucking snake because he chose the worst time ever to take a shower.
9. Learns The True Meaning Of Love (or something) when he realizes that being awesome as he is and the king of such a wonderful city he'll live forever anyway as a legend. Turns out to be half right as his legend survives but his city doesn't. Nobody's perfect.

Now, how can those facts be changed, tweaked, or referred to when creating a magical girl sort of character?

>>21166431

Pretty much. The idea itself also comes from Madoka: recall that while the story follows (loosely) this of Goethe's Faust, it is told from the viewpoint of "Gretchen" (Madoka), who for the vast majority of the series doesn't actually DO much (all the fighting and dying and magical girl-ing is done by others), but by virtue of being in the center of just about every relationship/event that happens makes for a perfect "main character" narrative wise.

In our case, there is also the matter that Gilgamesh (or any character standing for him, for that matter) is so incredible that he's actually somewhat hard to relate to on such a deep level. The way around it is to relate to him indirectly via a an intermediary.

Thus comes "Uruk" - just like Madoka, the city (obviously) does very little, but the story ultimately revolves around it still. We decided to replace "City" with "Sick Girl", but that's just because we're faggoty like that.

>>21166447
The easiest approach would be some school idol sort of character, no?

>>21166634
I'm just a watcher of this project, but 'city' to 'sick girl' seems to me to be too much of a stretch. Why not have a favorite cake shop or high school or pony stable as the Uruk standin?

I'm not saying to toss out Yuri, she's still a good main character that's more relatable than Gilly and Enka. It just makes more sense to me to have a place represent a place. Hell, you could have it be pretty much the same if it's a family shop that she lives at.

>>21166447
Well the shower is pretty easy, especially if we're going with normal magic burst fluff.
Gilly is off doing something and someone (an evil rival/nemesis?) steals her not-greef seeds, meaning no immortality wish.

If we go with Yuri as Uruk, then Gilly would probably be condescending to Yuri until Enki comes in and makes her stop that shit.
Think Nanoha/Alisa/Suzuka. Kind of.

>>21166688

That was the plan, so far.

Things we have right now of her:

- "Anime School Idol" stereotype. She's beautiful and mature, student council president, perfect grades in every subject, probably plays an instrument or three, athletic. Probably wears glasses, since in anime little square glasses mean you're a ice-cool, rather than that you are nearsighted (big round ones mean you're an adorable klutz. Opaque ones mean you're a rapist)
- Is a kendo goddess, and very proud of her skills, to the point of becoming madly obsessed with beating the one person who manages to tie with her.
- Comes from a rich and powerful family (natch), some complex shit I didn't quite get about her parents remarrying that's apparently an allusion to Gilgamesh' 1/3 mortality.
- Haughty, stuck up bitch who looks down on everyone who isn't as awesome as her - that is to say, everyone at all.
- Has a thing for sick girls, apparently (?)
- In magical girl form, fights with a katana and a revolver for double awesome. Random Roll said her costume would include an eyepatch - I like to imagine it as some kind of technomagical targeting monocle, but that's just me.

As with the previous character discussed, much writing would have to be done before she is turned into something other than a walking anime stereotype.

>>21166850
>complex shit I didn't quite get
Her mom is rich, high class
Her biological father is middle class
Rest of her family complains 'til her mom divorces him

This is also why she's so stuck up, from trying to get her families approval.

Rather than make a character as an audience surrogate, I'd think the story would be better served by making Gilgamesh a three dimensional character. You can actaully have good stories centered around a crazy awesome protagonist.

>>21166850

Also, she has no name. Can anyone please take the initiative and come up with a name for her? It needn't be a brilliant one - seriously, just random roll some Japanese sounding name, as long as we all agree on it it'll do a lot better than "Gilly".

Y'know what? I'm going to just go forward and do that for you.

...

Her name's "Wakahisa Tomiko". Apparently the first means "longevity" and the second "wealth" so it obviously fits perfectly so can we please either agree on this or not and finally have a name for our hero and go on?

>>21166927
We're just rolling with what we've got.

>>21167005
I like Tomiko. Definitely sounds like the name of a rich girl.

>>21167055

Tomiko it is, then. Now, can we move on to adding a little spice to her character? (or alternatively, starting with actual plot theorizing and moving forward from there?)

Do we have any writefags willing to volunteer? Drawfags, anything of that sort? Seriously, this thing only LOOKS like a terrible idea, I assure you.

>>21167073
I know some writefags and drawfag from MGNQ should I ask them?

Also please note that everyone thought that mickey mouse, star wars, and stealth based games were doomed to fail.

>>21167163

Please do! OP also mentions a drawfag, hopefully he'll appear sooner than later (sooner meaning before trolls sagebomb this thread into oblivion).

I really think this idea has a lot of potential. I want to see it becoming something awesome like those Mass Effect/Eclipse Phase thread series or whatnot. This board needs more wacky fluffy threads among all the quests and MT:G deck building guides (not that I have anything against those, I read the quests with great interest and play Magic, I just miss the other kind too)

>>21167073
What exactly does 'spice' mean?
Also I can write, but I don't think I'm too good.

>>21167163
Please do. If they don't mind helping.

>>21166927
>Girlgamesh is perfect. Genius intellect, olympic athlete and humble, respectful and outright submissive like a proper japanese woman.
> Also a member of a family that's richer than God, possibly related to the emperor. Despite how awesome she is, she's a pariah because she's an illitimate child from a foreigner, hence her blond hair.
> Whether idolized in public or bullied at home, she bears it all with serenity. All the same, she regards everyone around her as complete trash
>When she's not fighting the monster of the week, she abuses her magical girl powers to take revenge/take over the family.
There.

>>21167270

Try your hand at it. How bad can you really be? Right now all we have to arguably "lose" is a crazy idea. Give it your best shot and I'm sure it'll be fine!

>>21167374
Well what do you want written?
There's a lot of different ideas we've come up with, and none really solidified.

>>21167438

Dunno. Some kind of combat scene? An introduction to some character? Things should start flowing a lot better once SOMETHING'S being produced, right?

>>21167490

A combat scene, well written, would be just what we need right now. Sticky lesbian kisses and a sick girl being melancholy are all good, but this story should still revolve around an awesome person fighting monsters and being awesome.

>>21167163

If you can get the guys from MGNQ, it'd be of enormous help. Thank you very much.

In the meanwhile, how about we do a quick "concept" of Enkidu like we did Yuri and Tomiko, so that we have a skeleton to work with?

>>21167855
>>21165582

I(>>21166722) still say we should have Uruk as a cake shop or high school or something. Any thoughts on this?

>>21167914

You can combine them. Sick Girl is supposed to be a good cool, right? Maybe her family owns a restaurant or something. Would fit with them being poor fucks who can't afford chemotherapy.

>>21167947

cook*

>>21167947
I like it.
A family restaurant that the girls often hang at.
Maybe they told Yuris parents about them being magical girls and the chance for a wish?
Also, I imagine Tomiko and Enkiko pooling their victory trinkets so Yuri can get her wish sooner.

>>21168049

Doesn't that stand against everything Magical Girl shows stand for? Or for that matter, Tomiko? Isn't she supposed to be a stuck up bitch? Why help like this? If she likes sick girls, that's her fetish, I get it, but why help the failing restaurant?

Also, you're saying she's rich as fuck - why not PAY for treatments for the poor girl rather than letting her go kill monsters for a wish offered by a demon?

Can you guys post up the character descriptions?

>>21168281

Physically, you mean? I don't think anything ever came up, other than (a) Yuri wears a hat and (b) Tomiko wears glasses. And Bull of Heaven has some mythical boobage.

More is, indeed, needed.

>>21168334
Then I'll tell them that it is a work in progress

>>21168353

Yuri: small, skinny, flat, pale as a ghost, looks vaguely annoyed at the universe, walks slouched (projects lack of confidence), probably doesn't look at people's eyes when she speaks. Short, messy brown hair and a "Cancer Kid" hat (whatever that means)

Tomiko: Tall, gorgeous, reasonably busty, athletic yet refined, long hair, "cool person glasses", projects supreme confidence, arrogant expression.

How's that for a start?

>>21168419
It a start.

>>21168419
cliched.

>>21168243
That's why I've been pushing for having her not AS stuck up as she ACTS.
I've been trying to put up more ideas to make her not have the only personality point be "jesus christ is she stuck up".
Also treatment might not be taking too well.

Also are we going to base this purely on The Epic of Gilgamesh or are we going to use other stories as well?

The reason I am asking is because PMMM got some ideas from the Little Mermaid as well.

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>>21168419

So, long straight blonde hair? Hime cut? Drills? Twin tails?

Don't say twin tails...

>>21168862
> "I will FUCK YOU until you cannot even remember your own face, bitch!".

>>21168901
> lick my feet, mongrels.

>>21168862
Twin tails is normally for tsundere (though overdone all the same).
Tomiko is stuck up ojou-sama, which normally gets long straight loose hair.

>>21168518
>>21168741
As long as any other stories we add don't (somehow) overshadow the king of kings.

Bump from 9.

Any update on the state of writefaggotry/drawfaggotry?

>Gilgamesh Myth
Awesome
>Gilgamesh Fate
Pretty cool if a bit edgy
>Gilgamesh Mahou
Same shit as every other Magical school girl with special powers

>>21174174
Good for you, you have opinions.
Now get out of the thread for people who like the idea.

>>21168518

This cannot be stressed enough: while BASED upon the epic of Gilgsmesh, this is not a retrlling of it. If something either doesn't work or will work better if changed, it will be.

>>21167286

Some of those ideas aren't bad at all. Focusing on that aspect of Tomiko's personality (she's a bitch because she secretly feels inadequate and wants her mommy to praise her) can go a long way towards making her a more sympathetic, less godlike character.

>>21168862

Wait, blonde? Wouldn't a gender bent Gilgamesh look a lo... Darker? Ethnically Iranian, right?

>>21168955

You know, giving characters a look which doesn't confirm to the stereotype can go a long way towards making them less stereotypical...

>>21177721
Good point, so less trying to hit the anime girl cliche and more writing a character. If she's of mixed ethnicity like >>21176833 says, she'll look pretty different already.

>>21177721
I posted that to point out stereotyped traits, so they won't be picked right away.
Also, blonde hair is just how the Japanese portray all foreigners.

>>21176833
That's a good idea and I like it. Many times better than just lol blonde hair.

I'd like to point out this thread:
http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/21169392
Quick discussion last night about what the Sumerians were like and what they looked like.
If we want to make her more Sumerian.

>>21178438

Ethnically, there appear to be two main types of the "Ojou-Sama" stereotypes: Either she's tall, blonde, busty, blue eyed, dresses like a Gothic lolita (because the people making anime are apparently under the impression that everywhere the isn't Japan is Germany), lives in a castle and has a French maid.

The second one is a snow-white Yamato Nadeshiko in a kimono with straight black hair who is so Japanese that her father's katana has it's own katana. She probably speaks like a Meiji noblewoman, too.

Conforming to either one of those two stereotypes has the obvious advantages all stereotypes do: it makes it easy for the viewers to get a quick idea of a character based solely on their appearance.

The advantage of not conforming to either of those is originality.

Of course, as the link shows us, nobody can quite tell a lot about the Sumerians ethnically (other than that they had fabulous beards, which Tomiko probably doesn't have), so pretty much everything other than Inuit goes.

>>21179032
Make her a tall, straight blonde hair, busty, blue eyed yamato Nadeshiko who speaks like a Meiji noblewoman?

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>>21179032
>that her father's katana has it's own katana

>>21179032
I would pefer originality over stereotypes.
But there is a point of trying to be TOO original.

We should start with the foreign ojou-sama type and slowly work on changing it to fit what we want. A solid starting point is good to have.

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>>21179262

Delicious blond Africans.

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More unlikely skin and hair color combinations!

Although this is probably too extreme, isn't it? Perhaps blonde with a significant tan? Or go with a completely different style?

Also, there's more to the stereotype than the race itself. You can change surprisingly much when visually designing a character by giving them an unlikely haircut, face shape, body shape...

Maybe Tomiko is dirty blonde with a light tan?
How would she dress normally?

>>21179663
What's an unlikely hairstyle that doesn't make gravity shit itself?

>>21179964

I don't know, but I guess there a lot of options beyond long-straight, long-wavy, and princess curls. Aren't there?

>>21179964

Sounds sexy and exotic. If her original father's a foreigner, where did he come from?

Also, if she's trying to Make Mommy Proud, she might actually TRY to look classical on purpose. As weird as she'd end up, given her body shape and color.

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>>21180048
But wavy is so sexy.

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The Whore of Babylon?

What about Enkidu's appearance (and name)? I suppose you specifically want to avoid the obvious "short hair, cocky smile, flat and muscular" anime tomboy look?

>>21180253
I'm not too good at the common features of different peoples. Is anyone here good at that?
And I like the idea of her trying to look like what her family wishs her to be, but can never get it.

>>21180360
The big part for ojou-sama hair is looonnng, like to her ass about long.

>>21180922
We don't want to just make her that way and 'call it a day', yes.
She probably does dress like a tomboy often, though. Best for hard work.

>>21181086

This is actually relevant to the both of them: fabulous as they might look, remember that both are supposed to be very good sportswomen (kendo, specifically). Realistically, not many girls looking like Saeko Busujima are in kendo.

As for Yuri, I think at least a part of her cliched appearance is a function of the "chemo patient appearance". Cancer (and treatments) has a ways of making people alike: pale, skinny, bald, miserable...

>>21181086

I guess twintails and ponytails are out too, than... Avoiding stereotypes sure is hard.

How's it coming gents?

>>21181928

I think at this point we're all holding out for the writefags and the drawfags that are supposedly on their way. Hold the line, men. Hold the line!

>>21181780
Obsessively avoiding stereotypes is just as bad as specifically using them.
Every trait is part of SOME stereotype.

The important part is making the characters look and act like something more than their origins.

Also sometimes a stereotype is just right on the head, like what >>21181492 said about Yuri.

>>21181941
I'll try to ask decult directly.
If he approves then that problem should be solved.
If he doesn't then you're on your own.

I've been thinking about how all three girls get together.
Currently what I've thought up:
Tomiko is extorting/terrorizing Yuris families restaurant, on behest of her family
Yuri asks Enki to help (maybe this is after watching some of her kendo matches?)
Enki confronts Tomiko, who makes a deal to stop annoying the restaurant if she loses.
They duel (maybe as part of the tornament?)
Both get a point off each other at the same time, DRAW

Full of problems, but that's what's floating in my head right now.

Bump from ten.

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>>21179663
>>21179964
>>21180253

Gilly/Tomiko is trying to be Yamato Nadeshiko, so toss on a Hime cut. As for color, we could go blonde/red for realism...but
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouGottaHaveBlueHair

or black/silver hair

>>21186698
I prefer realistic hair colors to being able to make a rainbow out of the people you know.
But that's just my say.

>>21186863
>I prefer realistic
>SO LETS MAKE ENKINDU A LITTLE GIRL

>>21186915
Did you read the rest?
I take it no fun is allowed around you?

I was only talking about hair color anyways.

>>21186915

Well, given that both Enkidu and the little girl are, as far as we know, imaginary characters, there's nothing strictly unrealistic about making one the other - what matters is if it's consistent with the rest of the work. Besides, why would that bother you while the magic and monsters wouldn't?

How much Mesopotmaian mythology is actually going to be relevant to this story? I mean, is this like a modern world+Mesopotamian mythology is the "correct" cosmology with a focus on little girls, or is it just a magical girl world with a strong Mesopotamian theme?

>>21183377

While I understand what you're getting it, realistically, what does a rich and powerful family stand to gain from terrorizing a failing restaurant? It's not some huge and successful business chain that threatens their profits or who would be valuable to attain... Assuming they're not some kind of Yakuza organization who lives off terrorizing small businesses on a massive scale, it's pretty silly.

>>21189947
Mythology is completely normal, subtle Mesopotamian themes.
We're going for the same style of "based on..." Madoka Magica has to Faust.

>>21190536
Like I said, FULL of problems.

>>21191151

Could be just a personal thing - Tomiko mocks Yuri because her parents are failures. This still doesn't work as it is, though, since Tomiko is supposed to be a school idol loved by everyone - and no matter how beautiful and smart she is, nobody'll really like her if she regularly goes around bullying poor kids, and that's assuming most people don't know that this particular kid is very sick. If they do, Tomiko would look like a monster.

>>21191186
There's also that Yuri would be able to take only so much antagonism and still be able to forgive Tomiko.

We can handwave others not caring (we shouldn't), but Yuri can't be done that way and have a good story.

What about "Tough Love"? If we want to stick to the stand-ins as you've written them, Gilgamesh did indeed work his people to death building a wall, and obviously it was to boost his ego but at least in part, it was because as king he cared about the city.

What if people DO know that Yuri is sick, and now they're treating her differently? It's a sort of hypocrisy that isn't uncommon among children. A year ago she was a nobody, now she's a virtual "celebrity" surrounded by fake love and reassurance - kids following her around out of pity or misguided mercy, teachers letting her off unfairly, "All The Terrible Kindness"?

Tomiko wouldn't have any of this shit. "They may have given up on you, but I can't stand people who give up.", or somesuch. End result being she treats her harshly, but not cruelly, because she thinks being treated harshly is a sign of respect for the strength of a human being, sick or not.

I don't know, man. You seem to know a lot more than I do about how those stories work.

>>21191391
Hm, it makes sense.
She looks down on everyone as not as good as her, but that doesn't mean she likes seeing people not being their best.

Which would explain her becoming fast friends with Enki. They're both the same level, so Enki must have put a lot of work to be her best.

>>21191494

A warrior can't help but respect strength, and see injustice where it's denied.

>>21182062

Any news on that front?

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>>21191494
>Enki

>>21191869
Would you like to give the girl that takes the role of Enkidu an official name?
'Enki' is just a placeholder, so our character doesn't get confused with the original in the epic.

>>21191948

It's also the name of a Mesopotmaian god that actually has little to do with EnkiDU, the wildman from the Epic of Gilgamesh, leading to further confusion.

Random generator to the rescue once more:

Shizuka Inoue.

And there you have it.

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>>21192037
This whole project depresses me.

>>21192037
So our three main characters are...
Onigawara Yuri, as Uruk
Wakahisa Tomiko, as Gilgamesh
Shizuka Inoue, as Enkidu

Sorry, didn't know Enki was in use.

>>21192080

Yet it interests others. Move along.

>>21192106

Sounds legit. What about Ishtar, Shamash, Utnapishtim and Bull of Heaven?

>>21192106
It looks like Yuri is utterly pointless to me. She can't even be the Watson to our Holmes because Enkidu's already there.

>>21192936

I think her point is being mostly a witness, although it does seem like she actually makes the Contract first. So it's more like a witness who's also a shitty combatant who can't work by herself.

Cute, though.

>>21192936
>>21192958
As people keep saying, she is Uruk.
In the Epic, Uruk isn't on screen often, but it's basically just as important as Gilgamesh himself.
Hell, realizing the might of his city is what makes Gilgamesh accept his mortality.

>>21193249

So Tomiko ends up giving up the fight after seeing Yuri doesn't mind dying after all? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Tomiko isn't actually the one who's life's in danger.

>>21193761
Remember that Gilgamesh doesn't realize his city can last as a testament to him, so he fervently seeks a way to become immortal. He finds a way to, even gets his hands on it, but then it's (literally) stolen from him.
How it could work in our story is:
Tomiko is collecting seeds to grant Yuris wish, after finding all the seeds she needs they're taken from her.
She goes back to collecting them, but a lot sadder since she was so close. Eventually Yuri starts to make a full recovery, which makes Tomiko happy and what not.

Needs refinement, but it's a start.
How can we work in both Tomikos wish for immortality and her want for Yuri to get better?

>>21193903
>Tomiko is collecting seeds to grant Yuris wish,
Why? She doesn't care abuot anyone but Enkidu.

>>21193981
You do realize the pride Gilgamesh has in Uruk, right?
And this isn't 1:1 epic of Gilgamesh, so far the relationship between Tomiko and Inoue is centered around only being impressed by each others skills.

Seriously. This is BASED on the epic, not "Gilgamesh just with girls".

>>21193981

Assuming that they represent elements of the Epic, than I guess it's a different sort of care? Or just different roles? Gilgamesh becomes obsessed with immortality after Enkidu dies, and finally "finds it" in Uruk.

So either a love triangle or a sort of cynical replacement kind of thing? Like, Shizuka dies, Tomiko RAGES for a while an eventually settles for Yuri? It sounds a lot worse when you replace the kingdom with a person.

>>21194096
but Gilgamesh was proud of his city only at the very end of the epic, why would you have her start with that in this story?

You have a character whose fundamental flaw, as in the thing that'll be fixed by character development through the story, is looking down on EVERYONE. Why does she care about the ill girl?

>>21194100
>sounds worse
>based something based on Madoka
Sounds right.

>>21194169
Because we have no plotline of events for ours.
Because it's stuff thought up in the first thread.
That's it.
Suggest more than questions of "why would it be THAT way?".

>>21194263

Someone mentioned her secretly being jealous of/admiring the sick girl for some reason? Shit like that happens all the time in anime. "For all of how I'm prettier, stronger, smarter, richer, and more popular than you, I'll never have love/family/friends/bravery/somebullshit like you do!"

It's very romantic.

>>21194263
Well when you're deviating so far from the source material, it calls into question WHY you are even referencing the source material at all. Why call elves elves if you're gonna make them brachiating gibbonfolk who act nothing like elves?

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>>21194309
>It's very romantic.
I bet you think Nicholas Sparks is the pinnacle of heartfelt, emotional love stories, too.

>>21194333
I don't think he meant romantic in that sense.

>>21194310
Then suggest something better when you think something is getting too far from the source.
Now please stop if you don't have any way to improve upon what has been laid down. You're just making pointless(IE, they give us no way to make things better) criticisms.

>>21194389
I like to believe simply pointing out a bad avenue of discussion, while fruitless in creative aspects, at least helps you realize that you're heading down a shitty route. Its the editors job to point out mistakes, but its the authors job to fix them.

>>21194448
I just think this whole idea is retarded and would like it if they removed Gilgamesh from the name entirely.

>>21194480

The idea isn't bad at all. Just need to fine tune it a little and add some sexy drawfaggotry. It's infinitely better than some other threads going on at the moment.

>>21194915
>It's infinitely better than some other threads going on at the moment.
Thats not exactly the highest praise, and it really isnt.

>>21195010

And still I think this idea has a lot of potential and I'd love to see it develop further and give the people who do so the chance to do so, rather than saging them because I don't like little girls.

Maybe have Yuri as a decoy protagonist? Starting the story with her, introduce Yumiko through her eyes, get her to become a magical girl, have her firstbattle be more than she can chew, and when you expect Tomiko to step in and save the day, she walks away instead?
A comatose Yuri could keep being the narrator through the power of magic/unealthy obssession for Tomiko, and after she gets a heart, her guilt would lead her to try to save her?

Ok, I've tried to catch up with where people have gone with tall of this, but a few things here might be slightly out of alignment.

First, IMO judo or similar would fit the basic story more than kendo. (Well, the family koryu jujutsu for Tomiko). And going by my ideas for Enki's attributes, she's obviously pretty baseball happy too.

Regarding things in the previous thread:

Viewpoint and grand heroes: Tomiko and Enki do some pretty messed up stuff at times. I suggest luring their classmates into being sued as bait for Huwawa, then there's Huwawa begging for it's life (Denied!), and the fat of the "Celestial Cowgirl", who doesn't just get killed in a rather thorough fashion, but also has her corpse mutilated for good measure. Using the heroes viewpoint may take a good bit of the bite out of this, so Yuri would work better, even though she may filter things through fluffy, pink welding mask of love.

Tomiko fucks everyone: just as Enki's backstory needs a bit of pruning to fit the genre, this may be best reduced to a "popular girl" variant like we see in Utena. Perhaps with a cut or two of some girl in the arms of her boyfriend, only to have gher attention entierly on Tomiko as she walks past.

Now for Enki's ultimate fate: assuming we're running with a Madoka style explanation or how things work, Enki probably won't take very well at all to learning the truth of things. I suggest that this turns into a major rant at Yuri for having pulled her into it all, which Tomiko defuses (a good point to let Tomiko discover a few things about her own feeling).

After this there would appear to be two obvious paths to go, either have Enki waste away to despair (but possibly annihilating herself at the very last moment instead of turning youma), or have her cheer up a bit, only to get caught alone by a youma, and mortally before Tomiko and Yuri can arrive to help defeat it. This based on the following passage:

>There appeared a man of dark visage--
>his face resembled the Anzu,"
>his hands were the paws of a lion,
>his nails the talons of an eagle!--
>he seized me by my hair and overpowered me.
>I struck him a blow, but he skipped about like a jump rope,
>and then he struck me and capsizcd me like a raft,
>and trampled on me like a wild bull.
>He encircled my whole body in a clamp.
>'Help me, my friend" (I cried),
>but you did not rescue me, you were afraid and did not.. ."
>"Then he... and turned me into a dove,
>so that my arms were feathered like a bird.
>Seizing me, he led me down to the House of Darkness,
>the dwelling of Irkalla,
>to the house where those who enter do not come out,

Cue a Yuri-Tomiko fight&reconciliation.

>>21192685
Probably best to try and keep the character gallery from swelling all too much.

>>21192936
Enki is basically as super-/inhuman as Tomoki. Yuri provides the humanity, in all its frailness. And the third point for the love triangle, along with a sizeable chunk of motivation for the other two.

>>21193761
Gilgamesh strives for, obtains, and loses immortality. But as he returns he notices the splendour of his city, and is content.

In this story we let Tomiko fall in love with Yuri, and through that accept her own imperfections (mortality being the poster child amongst them) and through that become a decent human being instead of the near psychotic bitch she starts out as.

This may include curing Yuri to the point where she has the same expected lifespan as anyone else, or it may simply be the two of them taking a big pile of terminal-care painkillers and symptom supressors and going on a vacation to enjoy the last few months Yuri has left. (The "Charlie goes to Lesbos" variant of http://zocalopublicsquare.org/thepublicsquare/2011/11/30/how-doctors-die/read/nexus/ )

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>>Costume Element
>>gold

>>21196238

While this is probably not the original intention of the script, it could be interpreted as "Enkidu entered alone a fight he couldn't win and right at that moment the mighty and wonderful Gilgamesh got cold feet and watched his friend die horribly."

Which I think is terrific if we want to imitate Madoka.

>>21196808
And then Yuri turns up, dives right in, and Tomiko finally gets going. Yeah, that works.

>>21195638
That... actually sounds pretty good. But then, so does >>21196808/>>21196883


Anyone got any ideas of how we can combine them?

>>21196935

Do you mean putting Yuri in a coma or turning her into a decoy protagonist?

>>21196935
Possibly by limiting the comatose bits to lesser sections instead of mostly the entire show.

As it is the Heavenly Bull fight will have to be shifted to before Huwawa. A good place to have Yuri pounded into the dirt (I like the bell idea from before btw, turn the bell itself into a Japanese temple bell to reinforce the divine connection and cower up the cow side a bit).

Then for the school trip/Huwawa fight arc, Yuri's knocked out in the hospital, following things through magical stalker powers. Then as the beast from Enki's nightmares turns up she manages to pull herself up again to assist (maybe she recovered a decent bit during the trip), though this isn't exactly good for her health, so as Tomiko sets out for immortality Yuri ends up in bed again.

>>21197435

Wait, isn't Bull of Heaven a fellow magical girl, simply far more aggressive? Or is she a servant of the gods/the tsukaima/a youma?

>>21197890
My idea is to have her be a magical girl, who also has a contract with Ishtar. Being unquestionably obedient, she gets called in whenever Ishtar wants to get some less savoury things taken care of, such as pressuring Tomiko and Enki into accepting contracts by beating Yuri to a pulp.

The resulting beatdown that the wonder duo delivers may end up being a touch more severe than Ishtar had anticipated. Win some, loose some.

>Between the nape, the horns, and... he thrust his sword.
>After they had killed the Bull of Heaven,
they ripped out its heart and presented it to Shamash.
/.../
>When Enkidu heard this pronouncement of Ishtar,
>he wrenched off the Bull's hindquarter and flung it in her face:

Also, while it may not be the case in this specific instance, I think that quite often when the epic mentions Shamash we can probably find an opening there for Yuri, as Shamash does at times appear to be the god of the city or so.

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Add skirt, make redhead, Inoue?

>>21202688

Pretty close, I'd say, although I think if any one character has to be an obsessive gum chewer, it should be Bull of Heaven - cows spend a lot of time chewing, after all (since they regurgitate their food). Hell, if you really want to go that way, give her a nose piercing. There are more ways of making a teenaged girl look like a cow than giving her enormous breasts (although that helps).

>>21203758

Speaking of tits (everybody's favorite subject) and Inoue, in anime stereotypes, tomboys (actually very similarly to "shy moe girls") rarely have average ones: they're always either completely flat (which they're either totally cool with or secretly bothered because they're more feminine than they let known) or they have gigantic boobs (possibly bound in a sarashi and a source of great shame, since they don't like being feminine/it interferes with them being badass).

Also, what's the connection between her and Yuri, again? This hasn't been made clear before - is she just in love or something?

>>21203758 cows spend a lot of time chewing
That bit could fit there, yes.

>>21203851 Also, what's the connection between her and Yuri, again? This hasn't been made clear before - is she just in love or something?

While Enkidu never seems to take to Uruk the way Gilgamesh does, he is brought in the wilderness by a rather thorough show of the romantic delights city life has to offer (ie they bring him a whore, who he proceeds to fuck for seven days straight).

So warm friendship with a romantic option which ends up unexplored? Or we could just go for a full blown love triangle, that works too.

Also, see post #21136636 in http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/21136546/

As for the mammaries, I can't really see Inoue being bothered by their size, whatever it is.

>>21203851
DFC please

i dunno why, but of this trio yuri seems to be the big titted one to me

>>21204473

While that might be the cutest option, it's also the least realistic one. My girlfriend was on chemo for a couple years when we were in high-school. She started it with some very impressive tits, and for the most part (and for a long while after it ended) she looked like an emaciated zombie.

Of course, could be at the time of the story's beginning chemo still hasn't had such a strong effect on Yuri, so she still looks relatively healthy (still has hair, tits, whatever, but it's falling off and fading away and such)

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>>21204473

I am fine with that.

>>21204569
we could also go for the thing where they simmilar but different bodies when in magic girl form instead of regular girl form. She'd be all sick and broken from chemo in regular form, and with the obligatory 10 minute transformation sequence, she looks like she did when she was still healthy

>>21204694
Then again... animu seems to be devoid of anything resembling science in any form

>>21204408

So Shizuka comes to town, Yuri shows her around, brings her to the family restaurant, then goes to watch her in the tournament? Isn't she rooting for the other girl already?

>>21205062

The way to a tomboy's heart goes through her stomach.

Although, going by certain parts of the Epic, Gilgamesh also has some pretty epic appetite.

Yuri cooks, Tomiko and Shizuka are Fucking Big Eaters. Everything is clear now.

>>21197435

Wasn't the heavenly bull fight a result of the fight with huwawa, though?

>>21205168
100 lbs chick that eats 90lbs of food a day?
yep, proved my: >>21204703

>>21205555

100 lbs and 90 lbs are of course a massive exaggeration, but the idea itself isn't so far fetched. There's a lot of genetics involved, for once, and do recall that we're dealing with people with a very active and stressful lifestyle. Surely you know someone like that in real life? The guy who keeps eating and eating and eating and forever looks like a toothpick? (there's one of those for every guy who diets rigorously and spends two hours in the gym every day and will forever look like The Blob)

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>>21205572
(guy from >>21205555)
there are folk like that in animu, but yeah i WAS the guy that ate 7000 calories/day during high school. (combination rock climbing/ track/ puberty growth) but was still ~4% body fat. I kinda figured these gals would be in a similar place, sans magic. then again, how many times have you seen way too skinny people swing around a impossibly large weapon all day without problems?

>>21205612

Well, unlike the weight thingy, the weapons in this case ARE, in fact, explicitly magical, so something as simple as "they shouldn't physically be able to pick them up" really matters very little (especially if we're assuming a Madoka-esque world where magical girls routinely make ridiculous jumps, smash buildings, change direction in mid air, and other things that are so awesome nobody cares that they don't make sense)

>>21205625
sorry, had just woken up. my suspension of disbelief take a bit to warm up

>>21206066

You're dealing with a story that tries to combine a Mesopotamian Epic and Magical Girls - I don't think realism was even remotely a factor in this way. It goes as far as it does without making things less badass.

>>21206149
Badass isnt even a factor when you are watering down one of the greatest Mesopotamian legends with pedantic shit like kawaii uguu magical girls.

>>21206241
>greatest

the only you mean.

>>21205530
Originally, yes. But since we in this case have motivation for Ishtar to unleash bovine terror regardless, that won't be a problem.

>>21206682

Who is Ishtar, speaking of that? A Tsukaima? I don't think this' been established before in this thread. She's the one who contracts people?

Also, are you planning to eventually give all of those characters stats in Magical Burst?

>>21206997 Who is Ishtar, speaking of that? A Tsukaima?

Ishtar would be the one establishing the contracts.

>>Also, are you planning to eventually give all of those characters stats in Magical Burst?

I'll leave that to someone else.

I still don't understand why Tomiko cares at all about Yuri. I see a lot of thing about her going out of her way to save her, developping a romantic triangle with her and Enki, but I have no idea how she gets on her radar as anything more than "that sickly mongrel."

>>21207155

That same question was what started this whole operation. Back then, they were just two of a hundred randomly rolled characters. Than anon said they are in a relationship, another anon asked what the fuck "perfect girl" sees in a sickly moe, and third anon suggested Gilgamesh (for... some reason.)

And the rest is history.

And I'm fine with that.

>>21207205
He said it reminded him of Gilgamesh or something.
Either way it's fun to make.

>>21207155
Tomiko probably wondered too. It's just a sickly classmate which she helped to the nurse when necessary. So why does she keep lingering and talking beyond what courtesy demands? Why does she keep lingering longer and longer? Why does the girl pop up in her thoughts more and more? Those sad, clear eyes. That smooth, milky skin. Why...

Oh bother.

>>21207205
W'ell then I'd like to someone to tell me the history, because right now you have a character that's dropped in the story with little to no purpose. She has no relation to the other charcters, add nothing to the plot but somehow ends up being at the center of the plot for no discernable reason.

Someone explain this to me please.

>>21207155
Tomiko doesn't like poor people because they die. (Gilgamesh, contemptuous of mortals, denying his own mortality.) It's what happened to her birth mother: she died and left Tomiko, even though she promised never to leave. Her rich father remarried within his own social level. (Gilgamesh, two godly parents, one human one.)

When Tomiko looks at Yuri, on some level, she sees her dying mother, whom she still hates and still loves.

>>21207260
>>21207283
Unremarkable classmate of Tomiko collapses, and being the class president, Tomiko takes her to the nurse. Thus she notices Yuri's existence.

Now Tomiko is "miss perfect" and she knows it. But as we know, no human is perfect, and Tomiko is quite obviously far from it. But with a perfection complex (or whatever we're to call it) the size of a decent mountain range...

So as Tomiko is busy trapping herself in a web of her own impossible standards, she runs headfirst into the obviously anything but perfect existence of Yuri (humans aren't supposed to cough blood on a regular basis after all). This manages to make it through Tomiko's ironclad self-deception and give a good tug on her hearth.

>>21207205
And yet, its nothing like Gilgamesh.

>>21207375
Okay, that's something.

>>21207378

Wait, I though she has leukemia? She has tuberculosis now? Or does leukemia make you cough blood? I thought it just makes you bruise easily and bleed a river (in addition to fucking with your immune system and giving you headaches and pulmonary problems and various neurological problems)?

>>21208106
She has a generic degrading disease.
Because it's animu and we never decided on one.

Also the 'cough up blood' was just superfluous to emphasis SHE BE SICK.

>>21208266
To be fair, it's not like that's limited to anime. Dickens didn't specify what Tiny Tim was suffering from, either.

>>21208330

Well, if we want to get at least some things right, isn't this pretty easy to do without disrupting the flow of moe?

>>21208348
It should be entirely possible as long as someone who cares has a go at it.

>>21208548

Well, tuberculosis probably isn't it. While very scary in a 19th century setting, modern medicine, for the most part, makes it exceedingly easy for the vast majority of people in first world countries to overcome tuberculosis with little-to-no difficulty or risk.

Some kind of cancer, than. I'd say go with some kind of genetic defect that causes premature death (like cystic fibrosis or Huntington's) but for the most part those don't HAVE a cure, so you can't have that sort of hope in the story. Do we want hope in our story?

>>21208612
I'd prefer picking the "accept death, live what life you have" option instead. As it is it does seem to be a story about accepting your shortcomings after all, with shortcomings in lifespan being the one put in front of the rest.

>>21209053

But in the Epic, Gilgamesh accepted his own mortality because he realized his kingdom will exist after his death.

This doesn't make sense if you explain it like this.

bump

>>21210149

Well, as has been established before, this depends entirely upon the writers' preference, seeing as this was never supposed to be an accurate retelling in the first place.

Instead of going around in blind circles, did anyone so far actually try to come up with some sort of timeline or plot synopsis for this story?

>>21221114
A few scene ideas, but no overarching plot.

>>21221295

That's something already! Care to describe them? Perhaps we can help with expanding them or helping connect them?

Yuri is the narrator, right? Or did you decide to make her a side character?

>>21221295

How does it start? Who does the story follow at first?

>>21210149
With the kingdom recast into human form, the outlasting bit kinda falls to the side, and instead we get acceptance of mortality by noticing the good things here and now.

>>21221114
Chronologically:
Inoue meets Yuri, a week of good food and candy follows.
Yuri gets sick, forms a contract.
Yuri collapses in school, Tomiko takes her to the nurse, love happens and gets denied.
Inoue transfers in, Ishtar tries to make her and Tomiko form contracts.
Ishtar unleashes the Heavenly Bull on Yuri, finally getting those contracts. Looses the bull in return.
Class trip/Huwawa arc. Yuri currently stuck in hospital.
Inoue gets jumped by an outright nightmare, Tomiko finally finds fear and doesn't help. Yuri finally drags herself out of bed to assist, which makes Tomiko snap out of it. Too late for Inoue though.
Search for an loss of immortality, Tomiko and Yuri finally realise that just spending what time they do have, however brief, is what it's all about.

For Inoue and Yuri's first meeting, something has dumped Inoue in town on her own for a week. Single father on a business trip that coincides with a school break?

The story probably starts around Yuri's collapse.

Why then does Inoue transfer in? Remains to be answered. Father gets in an accident/trouble, she move sin with relatives? Ishtar may have sent the heavenly bull to make it happen...

For the Heavenly Bull fight I have a set of images in my mind of Inoue pinning her down, with Tomiko then putting her revolver to the "Bull's" neck, or shoving it into her mouth. Add a few suitable cold words (if the "Peasants!" bit hasn't been toned down, then possibly "You're not even one of the peasants *thumbs back hammer* You're just livestock. *BANG*). Take her magical gem thingamajig and use it to stabilize Yuri at the cost of the bull's life (and the Bull gets to watch, lying there twitching with the brain stem blown to mush). Ishtar complains without revealing all too much, causing Inoue to flip out, tear the corpse apart, and toss half of it at Ishtar along with some harsh language.

Huwawa, use their normal classmates as bait, or even fodder? From her sickbed Yuri calls down a black rain on the beast, weakening it enough for Tomiko and Inoue to break it. At this point it starts begging for its life, probably revealing a few uncomfortable facts about where the monsters come from. The wonder duo ain't big on taking prisoners though.

>Now, Enkidu, clemency is up to you.
>Speak to Gilgamesh that he spare my life!"
>Enkidu spoke to Gilgamesh, saying:
>"My friend, Humbaba, Guardian of the Forest,
>grind up, kill, pulverize, and destroy him!

As for the immortality arc, if anyone can weave in some old family secrets of Tomiko's, all the better.

>>21223781 Yuri is the narrator, right?
Yes

>>21226483
I'm thinking her dads in the city on a job trial period or similar, which is why for the first week Inoue is out of her element looking for things to do (got a hotel room, don't want to get permanently settled before the job is permanent)
Then her dad is confirmed for the job and they settle in propper, including getting her enrolled.
Moving in with relatives is still possible with this, just have to say they don't want to annoy them if they end up needing to leave soon anyways.

What city is the story to be set in? Nothing's been said of that.

anime is for faggots

>>21227496

Tokyo is the center of the universe? Or some made up one?

>>21230952

Thanks, but no thanks.

I thought there was some talk about Tomiko eventually deciding to use her "due" price to make Yuri immortal instead of herself. This changes the theme from "accept mortality" to "compassion is the virtue of the true king, not strength", which is admittedly kind of gay, but it does maintain the idea that Tomiko is content because she knows Yuri will outlive her...

>>21236343
That depends on if Yuri would accept going from probably being outlived by her pet goldfish to outliving everyone she knows.

An idea: Tomiko offers to get Yuri immortality instead of using it on herself, to which Yuri replies basically "I'd rather get better and live a life with my friends"
Which is the starting point of Tomikos turn to realization.

>>21230952
I wouldn't say anime itself, but the way the fandom gets, obsessing over it, putting it on a pedestal over everything else, yeah that's for fags.

>>21210149
... see, to me it seems like that's just asking for Tomiko to accept her own mortality because her children with Yuri will live on after her.

>>21237588

Her children with another girl? Either something very strange is going on biologically or Japan allows 17 years olds to adopt kids...

>>21237745
Magical lesbians. Do not question them.

>>21237807

I like the way this guy thinks. Carry on with the magical lesbians.

Does Bull of Heaven actually have a background of some sorts beyond being the Annuna's magical leg-breaker?

>>21237807
So we magical underage futa now. Welp

>>21238693

Probably a farmgirl. Or, fitting with the general theme here, some kind of abused girl who takes her rage out on the world by smashing it to pieces with a giant bell.

>>21237745
Actually modern science has figured out a way to make babies using two egg cells.

>>21239772

Does that make for a good plot point? Considering that they are (AT THE VERY MOST, given what we know about anime) 17?

Why would them having a child (adopted or SCIENCE'd) even be mention outside an epilog?
Doesn't seem fitting for a (albeit grimdark angst angst angst) childrens show.

>>21238693
Not really, no. The parts she's called in to perform doesn't exactly require a lot of backstory. But if we want to fluff it up somewhat at least, well, temple bell weaponry, serving the "divine". Sounds like a miko outfit and a religious background may be in order.

>>21241497
That does sound more like things the creators may have an "understanding" about, but which will never get mentioned in the actual work itself.

>>21247658

Miko Cowgirls. I don't know if I should be proud or ashamed that I actually have several (NSFW) pictures like this in my folder...

>>21247658

That is almost certainly for the best. So at the beginning of the story Yuri is healthy, and by the end she dies? How much time does the story span? Few diseases of this sort kill in mere weeks...

>>21245273

Agreed. Even if it wasn't a children's show, it just isn't one about underage girls raising kids. There are different shows for that.

Bump.

>>21254998
Clearly, this little project of yours isnt taking off as you had hoped. Just let it die with the few scraps of dignity it ever had.

>>21255052

I blame this on the lack of write and drawfags. Guess we haven't managed to create enough interest after all...

>>21255104
You create interest by doing those things yourself. You cant just go
>hurr, what if Gilgamesh was the little girl
And expect /tg/ to do all the legwork for you. Christ, you're worse than those people who show up to /tg/ with their custom space marine chapter recolor and one sentence that gives a vague idea of what they're about and then expects /tg/ to come up with 10 pages of background fluff for them.

This is a shitty idea that has attracted exactly no one and you apparently dont even give enough of a damn about it to try your own hand at writing or drawing for it, so just let it fucking die instead of waiting around stewing in the aftermath of your own circlejerk waiting for someone to give you a hand out.

>>21255194

I don't think the idea being shitty or not has much to do with it. It's a matter of taste, for once, and besides, a thread with a shitty idea wouldn't have survived as long or with as many posts. Even if it was just "carried by bumps" so far, it still means enough people cared about it to keep bumping, which is both good and far better than can be said about the vast majority of threads on /tg/. It's simply the sad coincidence that none of the few who've cared happened to have had any significant writing/drawing talent (you do realize that some people can come up with good ideas and don't have the talent to make them happen by themselves, and that those ideas are sometimes good nevertheless?) or indeed cared enough to put in the effort. It happens, It's legitimate, there's no point to denying it.

But the idea being shitty isn't a starting point for any argument.

tl;dr "It's not a quest or Warhammer it was doomed to fail" isn't a point to make.

>>21255388
>a thread with a shitty idea wouldn't have survived as long or with as many posts.
Harem. Knights.
>tl;dr "It's not a quest or Warhammer it was doomed to fail" isn't a point to make.
Oh baby, I just LOVE the way you cram your words into my mouth. I never said that shit and don't pretend that I did.

>>21255388
The only time bumps have been needed was server nightime.
This is the first time there hasn't been any daytime activity.

Also I've just been keeping it bumped so that those interested enough to make new threads wouldn't be making a new one every day.

Project might be completely dead now.

>>21255602
Hope not, I would've followed the shit out of this.
It seemed like not enough people really knew the Epic of Gilgamesh well enough to contribute. Maybe a sort of tablet-a-day group reading thread where we can just get everyone acquainted with the story would help? It'd get more in-depth discussion going and maybe also bring in others who weren't here at the start but could take a crack at writefaggery.

>>21255858
Would also help to have a link to the epic in the OP.
A good compilation of what's currently agreed upon would help too.

>>21256542

Well, seems like this thread is dead, but the project isn't, than. The one in the archive still exists, so all that's needed now is reopening a better one at some later point.

You did good, people. You did good.

>>21257030
I find it ironic and hilarious how you are priding yourself on all the nothing you did for 200+ posts. /tg/ gets shit done indeed.

>>21256542
I posted the damn link
>>21165600
here

>>21236567
just like every hobby in earth

just look at Warhammer fanbase

damn

>>21261979
Which is not the opening post.
Which means not everyone sees it.