FELL FLIGHT LASTS 24HRS, THERE'S NO NEED TO "ACTIVATE" IT ONCE IT'S ON, UNLESS YOU EXPLICITLY STATED YOU WERE WALKING (WHY WOULD YOU?). DM'S A DIPSTICK.

Fell Flight gives a fly speed equal to your land speed with good maneuverability.
Good maneuverability grants hover.
Your DM is an asshat.

Should have had the books with you OP.

>>21139217
Did she swing her arm so fast that the shockwave not only took out those dues and that wall, but those buildings in the background?

That's one badass arm.

>>21139252
I wasn't flying at the moment...

>>21139322
How are those guys still intact? You can clearly see the buildings getting utterly destroyed, but the two men are seemingly fine.

>>21139337

YOU EXPLICITLY STATED "I PUT MY FEET ON THE GROUND, RATHER THAN HOVERING ONE INCH OFF THE GROUND, AS GOOD MANEUVERABILITY PERMITS ME TO AND ANY SENSIBLE, SEASONED ADVENTURER WOULD BE ASSUMED TO DO"?

WHY?

>>21139341
Well, it sort of looks like she threw that one guy out after she demolished the wall, what with the way her hand is outstretched like that. As for the other guy, maybe it missed him but he was still carried along from the force, sort of like a tailwind.

>>21139337
Fell Flight does not give you the ability to 'make a move as if you were flying, end turn on solid ground or fall' or any other crappy attempt to balance flight.

Fell Flight gives you a fly speed and sufficient maneuverability to hover.
Gravity alone is not sufficient to make you fall; unless something suspended or ended Fell Flight, or you were subject to an ability that slammed you into the ground, your character had the option to simply float there.

>>21139252
this
/thread

>>21139377
That's asking an awful lot of the audience to get. The two men seem relatively the same in terms of distance from the initial sockwave point, and her other arm isn't bionically enhanced. So I doubt she would have been able to throw him that far.

>>21139354
well, i don't know, but if you put that way, probably because i'm an idiot...

>>21139427
Maybe those guys have impervious skin.

>>21139427
>>21139377
You can't see the shockwave that hit the OTHER building behind the guy flying on the left?

Their innards are probably mush by now.

>>21139462
Even their clothes are impervious?

>>21139477
>cartonboard city

>>21139462
Yeah, maybe they're the same type of hardware she's got. Once they land, they're going to get up and head back to that lab/hospital for round two.

It doesn't seem unrealistic for them to survive the fall if they're some sort of cyborgs, especially given the level of power on display here.

>>21139443

I'M MORE DISBELIEVING THAT YOU EVER ACTUALLY SAID THIS, AND ARE INSTEAD CONFLATING "I DIDN'T SAY I WAS FLYING" WITH "I SAID I WASN'T FLYING."

WHEN IN DOUBT, ASSUME THE CHARACTER IS DOING WHAT HE WOULD LOGICALLY DO. FOR A WARLOCK WITH ACCESS TO FELL FLIGHT, THAT'S "HOVER AN INCH OR TWO OFF THE GROUND, TO AVOID TRAPS AND FALLING HAZARDS."

THAT ALL SAID, EVEN IF YOU *DID* EXPLICITLY STATE "MY CHARACTER TURNS OFF FELL FLIGHT AND WALKS," YOUR DM IS A MONSTROUS DIPSTICK FOR HIS REACTION.
ANY DM WHOSE THOUGHT PROCESS GOES:
>A HAZARD APPEARS!
>I HAVE AN ABILITY TO PROTECT ME FROM THAT HAZARD!
>I NEGATE THAT ABILITY, TAKE DAMAGE ANYWAY!
IS A FUCKSTAIN.

>>21139517

Yeah, this.

Fuck your DM.

How far can you fall in one round? Also, that is a horrible interpretation of the rules.

The obvious petty response would be to, the next time he uses a flying enemy, just push it and say that it falls because it can't use a move action to fly since it isn't its turn. When he says it doesn't work that way, flip the table.

>Birds, dragons and other flying creatures falling all over the places because when is not their turn they can't fly

>>21139630
The image of dragon up in the air, watching in horror as a small child draws a wooden sword.The child shouts "I CHALLENGE YOU, BIG DUMMY!" and wins initiative.

Shouting and crying"NO, NONONONONOOOOOoooooooo~" Is the last thing the dragon does because speaking is a free action.

>>21139377
No, she clearly slashed with her hand and the shockwave is just that impressive. If you look, its STILL going.

>>21139673
It can't even talk when its not its turn! it would have to make it an immediate action in order to speak out of turn! That Dragon needs to learn its place!
>ndeymen mon-ster
Thank you Captcha!

Your DM is wrong - for reasons others have already outlined.

Politely point this out to him so he doesn't get it wrong again.

>>21139571
This. I don't believe a fall is 90 feet in one round - you should've had time to right yourself, or at least had a save to spread your wings and fly.

>>21139724

Thank you, I was just about to say this.

What about breathing? Is breathing an immediate action, or is it free? I think we need to look this up, because I'm pretty sure that everyone should be suffocating when it isn't their turn. After all, if they can't act, then how in the hell are they breathing? That clearly doesn't make any sense.

Also, Dex to AC. When it isn't their turn they can't attack, so how on earth are they defending themselves? I call bullshit on that.

>>21139517
Not OP, but you have no idea how many times my DM does this. Set something on fire? Oh, the NPC has a wand that shoots water. Get involved in a tavern brawl? The tavern mysteriously has bouncers that are four times your level. Be clever and figure out part of the plot before it happens and try and do something about it? Nope, back on the railroad with you!

>>21139749
9.82m/s ^2 for 6 seconds is most certainly more than 90 feet. Closer to 90 meters honestly, and that's a conservative estimate.

Now if it had been 400 feet in one round we'd have to talk.

>>21139782
Get a new DM

>>21139217
Where do you guys keep finding these DMs?
I can't be the only guy that would have intentionally put your character in a falling damage scenario SPECIFICALLY so that your flight could save you, thus making you feel like a badass hero.

>>21139785
Six seconds is the entire round, not per turn - that said, you still have a point. I thought I'd read something in one rulebook or another somewhere that defined falling speed, but I may be a fool.

That said, a save is still appropriate.

>>21139778
Not only breathing, but what about all other bodily functions? Are those free or immediate actions, like maintaining the appropriate tension in ones bowels to keep themselves from just shitting themselves? And heart beats? Is LIVING an Immediate or free action? Because I don't think a character can be alive if it isn't their turn!
>decision aftenht
Captcha speaks once again!

If it's 90ft., he has approximately 2.35 seconds of reaction time, not including the time it takes for him to begin the fall to begin with. Plenty of time to react and activate fel flight. Just because it isn't his turn doesn't mean that the character is paralyzed over that amount of time.

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>>21139427
If you notice the surgery scars extend across her back to her seemingly normal left arm, perhaps it has a trick of its own? Also perhaps she aimed her shock wave to suck them out instead of making a bloody mess out of the two men. Clearly she was able to get her way with her arm.

>>21139996
>If you notice the surgery scars extend across her back to her seemingly normal left arm, perhaps it has a trick of its own?
Presumably some sort of modification to her spine, to 'plug in' the replacement arm.

>>21139928

In my opinion, every turn should begin like this:

>First, I will take six free actions to blink, fight off common illnesses, breathe, keep my blood flowing through my body, digest my breakfast, and keep myself from shitting and pissing everywhere. Then I'll move 2 squares.

>Oh, sorry Brian, your character forgot to say he was using both feet to walk. You fall prone. Okay, next.

>>21139996
I don't see it mentioned but its the bonic arm that is swinging. it is swinging with such force that it has actually created a line of destruction across the buildings in front of her, you can see the line extending across multiple buildings. the first man us blocking the wave using his hands because supposedly he too is enhanced and the other one has been hit with the tail wind before he could get his defence up.

>>21139928
We'll have to make sure how many free actions the GM allows per turn, see what really matters to people.

>>21140078
>Ok, this turn I blink, fight of illness, breathe, pump my heart, digest food and use two feet and my natural balance and sensory skills to move two squares and see where I'm going
>You forgot to stop yourself shitting and pissing. You're now soiled.
>Yes... 'Forgot'

>>21139217

You need to start doing what these guys are saying

>>21140078
>>21140128

and see how long before your DM throws his hissyfit.

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>>21139217
I love it when an OP posts a pic far more interesting that the actual thread topic.

Also: I really am intrigued by the story behind the pic. Some poor woman forced into a biological modification to replace a missing arm with the limb of a demon.

Captcha: send hoingO

She'll kick his ass, too.

I remember when I was about 13 and my DM friend kept pulling the 'YOU GET NO ARMOR BONUS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE BEEN WALKING FOR DAYS GETTING READY FOR A FIGHT YOU DIDN'T SAY YOU DONNED YOUR ARMOR BEFORE CHARGING INTO THE PIT FIEND'S TOWER' card.

This leads me to my question: Why do half of DMs do it just to power trip about stuff that's going on in people's heads and has no real-world relevance?

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>>21140181

YES! The mighty hoingO will succeed where all others have failed!

>>21140093
Why would you even need to give someone that much power? Maybe this chick isn't on the up and up, and she tricked these guys into grafting that arm on for her? Or maybe they're the bad guys, and gave her the arm for....some reason I can't fathom. Why would you give something that could do that to a guinea pig?

>>21140320

Maybe they had some sort of failsafe in case she went apeshit? I mean, not every plan goes smoothly, maybe the explosives in her arm failed.

>>21140181
Reminds me of GOD HAND.

I love that game.

Magic bionic arm be damned, I want to know whats lighting up her arse. Everything else suggests the only light source is from the hole in wall, did those crazy scientists implant luminescent buttocks too?

>>21140320
Maybe it wasn't meant to give her that much power. Something about extreme compatibility or some such nonsense.

>>21140093
You know, I think this is it. Look at the arm, it has 03 printed on it. So, if she's 03, then 01 and 02 would probably be out flying friends there.

Another question, how is the guy on the right farther away than the guy on her left? She's clearing swinging from left to right, shouldn't the man on the left be farther?

>>21140383
Because of reasons

He may have hit a window rather than a solid wall, or something

>>21140383
Well, lefty arms are raised up to block the blow. Maybe he was able to stand up to it slightly longer than his friend.

>>21140379
Well, you know what that means.

They're all fucked when 00 gets there.

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>>21139217
Your DM is a 4E fag.
Pic related.

>>21140383
Lefty seems to have been propelled upwards by the blast and is probably going against gravity.

Meanwhile righty is falling and is likely assisted by gravity in his descent.

Which creates a little more distance between the two. Being a while since I've done mechanics but I'm sure the maths behind it is solid.

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>>21140423
>00
>threatening
rei couldn't do crap until she got all giant and naked and then she wasn't even using her eva, 01 is the real power house

>>21140181
I love it when an image bored just stops and puzzles out a picture. There's something strangely nostalgic about it, like trying to see shapes in the clouds.

>>21140383

She was building speed and force as she swung, so poor righty got suckered while lefty got bitch-slapped.

Wouldn't it take around 5 seconds for you to hit the ground from 90 feet up? Like, one full round of time?

Even following your DM's bullshit logic, your turn should have come around again before you hit the ground, so you should have been able to do something.

>>21140487
Please don't drag your other stuff into this. These numbers exist outside your precious animus.

>>21140484
logic is sound, but lefty going upwards doesn't make sense relative to the direction of her swing.

>>21140337
She was probably drugged to the gills. Look at all those pill bottles lying all over the floor.

>>21140423

Well, surely if 03 is trouncing 01 and 02 here, wouldn't 00 be a very rough prototype and we should actually be shitting bricks over 04?

I know anime etc has instilled in us that the "zeroth" or "true/secret original" of something is going to be automatically the best, but that really doesn't hold up; logically, the designers would improve upon flaws and inefficiencies present in early designs - or if it's something biological lolevolution.

I know the typical way these things go is to have the first have TOO MUCH POWAH and later generations are scaled back but fuck that shitty-poop trope.

>>21140547
Regular doctor's offices will have those in excess. Them being there doesn't really prove anything, as they were probably knocked clear when she blew up the fucking wall.

And it being a grafted-on arm, she's most likely on sedatives.

Has no one ever thought that maybe this IS the intended outcome. Maybe cross-corporate sabotage is to blame or shes a sleeper agent who decided to steal a rival company's tech by having them graft it onto her body.

I wonder how many stories those guys are going to fall? I'd guess at least ten, maybe 20. If only I could scale it by those buildings in the distance.

>>21140561
Maybe they go down in number?

>>21140379
>>21140423
>>21140561
Not necessarily true. For all we know, she was the test subject for implants 01-03 and 03 was the only one to harbor positive results.

>>21140538
Her entire pose is a little awkward and it's difficult to imagine how she actually swung - by imagine that her arm was moving in an angle slopping from the left down to the right, as the sliced building indicate. Maybe the shockwave hit him in a location that sent him upwards?

I agree that it's hard to picture. It's easier to imagine the shockwave blasting lefty in the shoulders or the head, which would've sent him toppling over instead of flying. In order to propel that dude such a distance, she'd have to smack him right in his centre of mass.

>>21140495
>like trying to see shapes in the clouds.

I now understand why I love analyzing pictures on /tg/

>>21140561
>logically, the designers would improve upon flaws and inefficiencies present in early designs

That's not normally the case. Typically, the prototype is "the best we can possibly make with the budget we've been given". Following that, they show off the prototype, get more funding, and then say "what can we take from the prototype and make cheaper to produce?" That's when the corner cutting starts, and that's when the 01's and 02's and 03's wind up being shitty knockoffs when they have to standalone. They're SUPPOSED to have a bundle of those units, whereas the 00 was only built to work alone.

>>21140561
00 could just be better as a consequence of experience, and uses his/her greater familiarity with and knowledge of the weapon in question to outdo her in spite of a lower degree of power?

>>21140620
Same guy here - just making an observation. Looking at how they are falling, it does seem to me like lefty was hit directly in his centre of mass while righty was hit a little higher, which is what's making him flip like that.

Which makes no sense considering the angle of the shockwave, unless lefty is a giant and righty is a midget.

>>21140561
I wouldn't say she beating them. Looks to me like they got sucker punched.

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>>21140474

>post opens with "3.5"
>responds with "hurrdurr your dm is a 4rrie"

>>21140643
>P-51 A us better tgab P-51 D
Hahaha...no

>>21140664
Maybe she hit righty in the knees, and we're seeing him mid front-flip.

>>21140702
It doesn't always follow that pattern.

>>21140702
That's letter designation, not numbers. I imagine with letters, A would be the prototype model.

>>21139782
your gm is a fucktard and you should feel bad about not causing grievous harm to all his feelings.

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>>21139217

>>21140702

P-51 A and P-51 D were built for entirely different purposes, dickweed. The former was supposed to be a low-altitude recon and ground attacks. The latter was a full blown fighter.

>>21140573
She might very well be the bad guy here, and the story after this point follows the adventures of 01 and 02 trying to retrieve the arm she stole before that sort of power falls into the hand of a rival firm.

>>21140742
>implying A can outclass D in any way
maybe in problems...

>>21140705
Maybe. Seems a little awkward to imagine in motion but that's possible.

So, lefty was hit square in the chest by the shockwave at a slightly upwards angle while righty was hit a little lower, maybe right in the knees at a downward angle. The second one is still fairly difficult to picture but whatever, I can live with it. Another option is that righty was sitting down on a surface and got hit above his centre of mass. Seems a little more suitable for some reason.

I'm just proud that there has only been one "dat ass" comment so far.

Is that guy on the left wearing a sweater vest? Doesn't seem very 'future clothes."

>>21140748
Could be. Or maybe these guys are the bad guys and she just saved the world from some very serious shit. That is, if she can get to the extraction point in nothing more than a patient gown and some panties.

>>21140643

But they would in between generations 1 and 3 make drastic changes in terms of the design to increase functionality and efficiency while minimizing drawbacks, based on the observed performance of generation 1 and the prototype (generation 0). As you say, they'd have less budgetary problems in the latter generation and would therefore have far more to throw at making generation 3 better than ever. Especially considering generation 3 is more likely to have to go up against market competition than the prototype was.

>>21140777
You mean squatting down against that pillar?

Yeah, I can see that. He's relaxing, so he doesn't have the time to react like lefty does before *SMACK*

>>21140702
Honestly though that's a bit of a failure in reason, and they really would lose nothing to fix it up a bit.

Prototypes CAN be more capable than mass-production models, sure. But you know what? Usually they aren't. See, bugs happen. Prototypes are proofs of concept, or first attempts at making it all work right. Even WHEN it proves incredibly effective, its going to still be riddled with so many flaws and defects that even your best aces are better off going with something with a 10% smaller performance envelope.

What's generally better are limited production runs that haven't gone from "we want to impress you for more budget" to "hahah it doesn't work and while we're charging you as much as for the prototype, we've made it lighter by removing all armor and that reactor it needs to run" yet, as is wont to occur once you hand cash so freely to an industry.

Adopting new models takes years, or sometimes even more. I'd feel less icky if 'gundams' and whatnot weren't prototypes, but just rare by politics and budget-shenanigans they actually bothered to cover in the shows, for example.

If nothing else seeing the process of "no, we've got to make it so that our gargantuan biped is the best thing on the field, or we'll never convince them to buy any of the bloody things. Start sabotaging all tech developments everywhere, and see if you can affect current weapon stocks as well, do something to their tanks and planes I guess. I'll start sucking cocks over at the pentagon"

>>21140797
The serious shit in this situation seems more like the massive shockwave that's capable of tearing through buildings.

>>21140819
That's much better.

Now the question is why she's got her left arm extended like that, for any reason other than an action pose.

What if the guy on the left was charging at her, while the guy on the right was standing further away? Being closer and having momentum in her direction would reduce the distance he would travel. If he were jumping at her the effect would be even more pronounced.

>>21140777

Or lefty (and maybe righty) weren't hit by the front of the shockwave at all. They've been sucked out of the building by the flow of air created by the low-pressure wake of the initial shockwave.

>>21140835
Yeah, that kinda wanton destruction is pretty fucking ridiculous. I can see why you would want to wrest that from your competitors. Shit, this is beginning to remind of DXHR.

>>21140835
The sepia makes it feel like the city's probably not a nice place anyway - like abandoned or quite run down.

That or it's late afternoon.

>>21140848
Then why is spectacles still in the room and not sucked out with them?

>>21140848
That doesn't make much sense, though. Why would she judo-chop through the building wall?

She's gotta be attacking the people who are trying to remove her crazy cyborg arm.

>>21140848
What about the doctor, then? Why wasn't he ejected from the building.

Maybe that's why she's extending her arm? A warning to him to stay down.

>>21140876
Maybe it was to test it. And the target has got vaporized.

>>21140883
She might be tossing Lefty out the hole created by the arm, now that I think about it

Explains the height difference between the two, at least.

>>21140894
Shes clearly doing something with her fleshy hand, too. For all we know, there could be some psychic fuckery alongside her mighty morphin power arm.

>>21140876
I get the feeling it's more of a revenge moment. She had burst into the room through the door. The doctor was being interrogated by the two musclemen, one of them doing the talking while the other crouched down against a pillar, chewing a toothpick or something. She yells and gestures for the doctor to get down and judo-shockwaves the two musclemen out of the room.

On the other hand, the doctor could be the villain of the scene. Perhaps the muscle were there to protect him while he packed medical equipment - like the pill bottles scattered across the floor. Perhaps she's going to grab him or making a "YOU'RE MINE, FOUREYES" gesture.

>>21140929
Going back to the corporate espionage concept, that could be the techhead responsible for her arm, so shes stealing both the product and the scientist responsible for it.

You can't hover unless you have perfect maneuverability without taking the Hover feat, all these people are retarded.

Personally though, I would still allow a tumble check if you had it active though (just the fact that you were walking doesn't cancel your ability to fly) even if you weren't trained, because with a 90 foot fall you'd still have 2.3~ seconds to think OH FUCK and adjust your angle to minimize damage. So your DM is still a fucktard.

Does it bother anyone else that she's wearing underwear? I mean, don't patients like her typically wear a hospital gown and nothing else. I see an awful lot of old man ass in hospitals for this pic to suddenly say 'oh no underwear is totally fine.'

>>21140951
>>21140929
and given her apparent disregard for public safety, I'm hoping lefty and righty manage to radio in before becoming paste so she gets what's coming to her.

>>21140951
I agree with this, mostly because Lefty looks like he has a Bill Cosby sweater on and I just can't imagine someone who wears something like that being the villain.

>>21140954
This. I wanted to say pretty much the same thing, but figured it wasn't worth the headache of reading more allcaps and getting chewed out by tripfag worshipers.

So, as we can see from the "slash" going in the background, whatever it was that she did, goes really fast. BUT, it seems that the two guys aren't going as fast as the slash.

So. Slash only pushes humans back. Destroys everything else.

Pushed humans do not move as fast as slash.

So, she slashes, the slash hits guys inside the room, hits the wall, destroys wall before guys have even managed to start being blown off, and then all hell breaks loose as they finally realize what is happening. This is a picture of that moment.

>>21140972
He could be a hipster. Hipsters are always evil.

>>21140975
It kinda looks to me like the slash is increasing in power as it goes.

>>21140951

Makes sense. You'd probably need someone like that to do maintenance and upkeep on your Ridiculously Uber Tech-Arm.

Of course, being a pathetic lab beta getting dragged around by a ludicrously powerful female of the sort that Joss Whedon could only dream about, the lab geek probably Stockholms immediately and creams his jeans until he is nothing but a withered (but very sticky) husk of a man.

>>21140969
I get the feeling from the colours used and spartan look of the room that the city's not exactly in the greatest condition. It's either late afternoon or there's something wrong with the city.

>>21140969
I'm telling you, they're 01 and 02. it's why they aren't smears already. This is the beginning of the campaign, and the pair of them have to track down this woman before she does something terrible with her new implants. But can the pair, with their own obsolete tech, take her on?

It has all the makings of a good story.

>>21140986
If this is the case, she's going to carve off a sizeable slice of the Earth.

>>21140988
Now I may be biased on the subject since I have a thing for muscles, scars, AND cyborgs, but you cant deny that having a cyborg secret agent fighting over you isn't every nerd's secret dream. Shit, if he WAS a wise man he would just go with it and try to get himself better pay and benefits at the new corporation.

>>21140974
Didn't read the thread, did you?
>>21140972
Bill cosby sweater guys are never villains.

>>21140883

His back is against an actual piece of wall, as opposed to standing around exposed. Strong enough suction could of course pick him up and chuck him out, but he'd be less likely to get sucked out than, say, people running up to Number Three to tackle her or whatever.

>>21140993
It's a medical office. Those are usually spartan.

>beige is evil
wait what

>>21141019
Beige is drab and dilapidated, the color of neglect and decay. The people who would let a city reach that level of beige are evil, though.

Granted, its a hell of a jump to be making on colors alone, but I can see where hes coming from.

>>21141009
I believe we threw the idea of a reasonable antagonist out the window when she started cutting buildings in half without even trying.

No pun intended.

Besides, would the earth even react to such a cut? Sure earthquakes and shit would happen, but wouldn't gravity just pull it back together?

>>21141019
Beige isn't evil.

Beige is dilapidated, old, ruined or abandoned - which I suspect the city of being.

then again it could always just be the setting sun, judging from the angle of the light.

>>21141019

Evil is mundane. (Thus 'the mundanity of evil')
Beige is the most mundane colour of all.
Ergo, beige is the most evil colour.

>>21141041
I just assumed it was just the brightness of the sun, as seen from someone whose eyes are adjusted in indoor light.

>>21141032
But like, the room being beige isn't anything special. My doctor's office is painted entirely in beige.

And the colour of the city is almost certainly just the lighting. Take a look at where the light is shining in. It's just glare from the sunset/rise.

>>21141037
She'd create a set of new tectonic plates but other than that, no. You're right.

>>21141015

I think that's the plot to the show Chuck.

>>21139837
You're playing the game wrong.

It's the players VS the DM, after all.

Wai-

>Be the DM
>A player surprises me
>I reward him
>Be the player
>Surprise the DM
>Get punished

Why does this happen, /tg/? Why?

>>21140876

Well, either the guys that she originally hit are now a fine pink mist descending over the city, and the flying dudes are just collateral damage; or she was just making a hole in the building to Supergirl out of, and the flying dudes are just collateral damage.

>>21141063

Because not all GMs are created equal.

>>21141057
>She'd create a set of new tectonic plates
Would it... would it be possible to predict what sorts of terrain changes these new plates would create?

We could probably assume she's in a certain city, like New York, and then extrapolate that she's facing south...

>>21141009
It's not getting bigger. Well, it is, but only in the sense that it hits more things. The type of motion she threw her hand is was probably an arc, so the shock wave stretched and arced outward, possibly losing some of it's power in the process. Those buildings are probably enough to stop it. Probably.

It she swung perfectly straight she would get more penetration.

>>21141058
I think so, too, but with more cyborgs and corporate espionage. And let me tell you, I fucking love me some cyborgs and corporate espionage.

>>21141071
Maybe its not a shockwave of raw force but rather some sort of weaponized pulse that absolutely ravages buildings and only hits humans with concussive force.

>>21141103
But if the wave were getting more powerful, it could explain why the two guys aren't hamburger. Plus it certainly seems like it's ability to cut buildings isn't waning.

>>21141095

Based on the fact that the sky is brighter on the right side, and it appears to be evening and the Sun would therefore be setting, I'd say she's facing West-South-West or South-West - she's aiming a ways to the left (ie West) of the Sun, but not so far left it's at her shoulder (ie facing directly South)

>>21140988
>She's not going to rape you
She's going to rape you. There won't be time for you to cream your jeans, even if you ARE Joss Whedon.

ffs its a roleplaying game not a boardgame (right?), if some one has an ability/power/skill/affinity/whatever that would suit a situation then let that thing be used, no matter what the stupid game mechanics say or dont say. Make it a cool scene, give some love to your players, give them teh fuck yeah moments, it's what were (mostly) there for, dont waste them.

>>21141137
R-R-R-ROBORAPE

>>21141124
For all we know, those buildings could be the only ones hit, stopping parts of the shockwave as it hits each individual building. Like a seawall.

The guys are simply cyborgs like her. That's my reasoning, anyway.

>>21141063
I love how some DM believe that a prepared player are powergamers. One of my DMs thought warlocks were overpowered as fuck because the 24 hours powers (and clerics, wizards and druids not that much because the "they need to prepare spells beforehand" stuff)
>DM "Fuck, you can fly, see invisible, became invisible, etc, at will and for 24 hours?, well then i must do things that negates those abilities even knowing i'm not using rules correctly isntead of thinking outside the box or just using more ranged enemies or creatures that can track through scent"

As if fly at will is OP as fuck...well, then birds must be gamebreakers.

>>21141120
>Maybe its not a shockwave of raw force but rather some sort of weaponized pulse that absolutely ravages buildings and only hits humans with concussive force.

>Dr. Johnson! I have an idea! Let's create an arm.. that destroys buildings!
>Brilliant Dr. Anderson! Brilliant! But where would we house and create such a weapon!
>I've got it! In this huge building surrounded by several hundred OTHER BUILDINGS!
>Dr. Anderson you are the most intelligent woman that has ever eaten me out

Did you notice the twist ending? And you thought they were men just because they're doctors you sexist pig.

>>21141155
>>21141137

The ultimate Joss Whedon-esque geek fantasy - being dragged around by a ludicrously powerful female asskicker who is literally fuelled by your semen.

>>21141124
Don't think it's cutting through any of the buildings, they're merely not perfectly aligned against her swing and got hit on two sides.

Plus, anything strong enough to blast out/vaporize an entire outer wall is going to turn regular people into hamburger. The two guys ain't normal, just less indiscriminate about how they use their powers.

>Righty and Lefty are talking to Spectacles about maintenance for their CYBORG STUFF
>Super Bitch infiltrates as a patient
>blows them the fuck out of dodge
>steals Spectacles
>billions of dollars in damages

>>21141178
Did you mean 'kidnap Spectacles'? Or am I missing a big part of the story?

>>21141169
And she is also a sometimes lesbian. She shares data with her other femmeborgs by making out with them.

>>21141095
I'm not putting any maths into this at all. Someone who ran through the hard science could come up with more detail.

I personally think that based on your suggestion it'd create a fault line cutting from just off the East coast of Louisiana to the middle of the Atlantic ocean, slicing straight through Florida.

That's a personal guess though. It could "harmlessly" slice through the Gulf of Mexico or it could hit further North and slice through six or seven states.

>>21139337
You are flying the power is on the whole time.

>>21141197
Right. I'm sick, forgive my shitty wording.

Though government technicians in the CYBORG FUTURE may well just be considered objects

>>21141168
yes i thought they were men...get out of my head!!

>>21141168
Women can be doctors, too. Its just that psychologists aren't real doctors.

>>21141200

Of course; she starts out the story lesbianing it up good and proper and is very tsundere to the spermbank, gradually coming to love 'refuelling' with him.

>B-baka! I-it's not like I like your dick or anything.

The punchline is sexism.

>>21141223

It wasn't that long ago that medicine (or indeed anything biological) wasn't considered a "real" (ie 'hard') science either.

Because scientists are kind of assholes in case you hadn't noticed.

>>21141238
Now, now, this is a Whedon fantasy, not an anime. She is SEXY and CONFIDENT and POWERFUL, meaning she is a gigantic lesbo slut that only actually “loves” a man. A man who happens to be a pasty shutin nerd type.

This thread is proof that there is no old /tg/.

Time leaves no scars on this place.

>>21141178
The scariest thing about this is that, since those two can take a hit like that, she can probably take it better.

>>21141268

Even so, an 'empowered' woman who literally mechanically needs a man to be/remain strong? Hilariously sexist and if that actually got published/aired/whatever certain corners of the internet would shit themselves.

>>21141302
You mean like every other one of Whedon's fetish characters?

>>21141299
Don't be silly, women can't take hits.

>>21141163
The thing that absolutely pisses me off about that mentality is that preparing for what was coming up ahead is literally 75% of any AD&D or OD&D game. You DO NOT GO AHEAD WITHOUT PREPARING YOURSELF or you will die, no questions asked.

That's not to say that games without a strong bent towards preparation are bad, but holy fuck, if you're retarded enough to think that making any kind of strategy at all is powergaming, you do not deserve to be a DM.

>>21141263
>the joke
>your head

>>21141316

Eh, for all the fun we poke at Whedon he's not THAT bad.

>>21141326

>my balls
>your head

OP here, i left for like a couple of hours and this became awesome in so many ways i totally forgot about my problems with my DM.

Thanks.

Also, i think she's somekind of subject of an experiment, look at that body, she has no scars in legs, no toned muscles...i don't think she's an assassin or a spy.

>>21141334
I know, I know. His shows and movies can be pretty damn enjoyable, too.

>>21141358
Female assassins and spies never have too much muscle though. It's always just curves.

>>21141358
Of course she's an experiment. Your reasoning makes me think that maybe she was born with genetics that are compatible with these sort of "modifications." So she was black-bagged and taken away for tests.

So, Lefty:
>Bigger guy than Righty, looks like
>Rocks the cosby sweater
>Quick enough reflexes to put up a semblance of a defense

Righty:
>Sitting down: lazy, easily bored, or really chill

03:
>Either doesn't know what the arm can do, or doesn't care
>Arm is a new addition, model 03
>Had reason to sucker punch Lefty and Righty through a wall

>>21141397
That's just in films.

Then again, corporate espionage - I suppose that sort of spy wouldn't need muscles. Not much physical strength needed for infiltrating a corporation.

>>21141405
And the rest of the series either follow Goggles as he is abducted by 03 or by the surviving Left and Righty as they go on an uber-modified cyborg buddy cop adventure to get the arm back.

>>21141429
Not even that. Think about how much you would need to get into a clinical trial.

>>21141405
Spectacles:
>Shocked: either by the ability of the arm or scared to death of 03 herself.
>Clearly a doctor judging from the pills all over the floor
>Knew enough about the situation to duck while 03 blasted the other two.

>>21140358
There's an ass in this picture? Where?

>>21141445
Wouldn't a graft rely more on your acceptance rate than physical capabilities?

Upstanding defenders of CYBORG JUSTICE Righty and Lefty would be more easily surprised and subdued by a buxom young woman than some obviously-heavily-trained-and-totally-not-a-soldier girl.

This is clearly her reason for choosing the semi-transparent medical gown despite that not being standard regulation at all.

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Guys.

I've found a sequel image.

Why are we assuming she's the villain here? It looks like a classic case of 'experiment on patient, patient wakes up and is pissed and confused' to me. Hell, Lefty and Righty look like perfect goons.

>>21141515

Wait. Did 03 change gowns? I'm pretty sure they're different shades of green...

>>21141522
Because corporate espionage is more compelling and more fun to play with. She may not even be the bad guy, she just isn't a 100% good guy due to her willingness to incur massive collateral damage.

>>21141515
>digital image
i don't like it

>>21141515
Aww shit, the exosuit is also Mk 3. RANDIS mk 3 to be exact.

>>21141451
So, we can lay out the events.
>Specs is in there, probably working on Lefty as Righty waits for his turn.
>03 bursts into the room, see's the trio, raises her arm.
>Specs, knowing whats about to happen, screams and ducks for cover.
>Lefty, responding to specs, moves forward and attempts to stop 03 while Righty gathers his wits.
>03 slices across the room. Lefty raises arms to defend himself as both men are thrown from the room.
>Shockwave extends past the building, wreaking several others.
>The photographer in the hallway snaps this photo, the flash illuminating 03 ass.

>>21141539
Maybe it's a prequel image, actually - perhaps this fight was before she tore up Lefty and Righty to get Spectacles?

>>21141554
>The photographer in the hallway snaps this photo, the flash illuminating 03 ass.
Oh lordy

>>21141559
>>21141539
Nah, this is after she got back to her own corporation and switched into a nice green dress. Unfortunately, her target sent the RANDIS out to get her, leading to their current predicament.

>>21141559

That... makes sense - look at the city. The light isn't as yellow, suggesting it's not sliding into evening as the first pic was, and the city is also shows no sign of the effects of her attack.

Even if the buildings shown aren't the ones she hit, there'd be dust all over the place from the damage she did cause and way more of an emergency response apparent. But their isn't.

>>21141591
The pseudonym of the artist is actually "randis."

He also provided no story to go with these - they're just prints that he's selling for cash, the asshole.

>>21141522
Mostly because, if you knew what this arm could do, you aren't just going to graft it onto anyone. I certainty wouldn't give it to anyone I even REMOTELY though was going to use it against me, or have any reason to be pissed at me.

>>21141616
The exosuit still says RANDIS MK-03 on the side of it, so that's what I'm gonna call it. And thats fine. This way, we get to make our own story.

>>21141669
>Exosuit
That's just arms and legs, it's kind of stupid for protecting yourself...also, doesn't seem like it can fly or hover, so i think the fall is going to hurt a little, at least for the pilot.

>>21141597
How'd she survive the fall though?

And how'd she even manage to piss off Miss Randis?

>>21141515
Well, she's defiantly the villain. Check out that demon claw from hell. And the fact that she could crush that machine in a instant but doesn't, relishing the look of fear on he pilots face as the hurl toward the ground.

>>21141701
Let's work with this, either though it's obvious the suit is armourless because of the sex appeal.

Perhaps the powered suit is just for heavy lifted? Would you really design something like that for the purpose of combat? If so, how did RANDIS get in this fight?

>>21141597
the first picture may have been sliding into morning rather than evening.

They way I imagine it;

>03 busts Righty and Lefty
>takes Specs
>goes up the giant pharmaceutical building in search of MACGUFFIN X
>meets RANDIS mk 03
>fight escalates until they knock each other out of the window
>they both get splattered on the pavement and die

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>>21141701
This is also an exosuit, you know. For all we know the Mk 03 was either meant for construction purposes or not nearly done, it was just all they had on hand capable of taking on 03 at the moment.

>>21141701
Maybe it isn't meant for combat. It might be a power loader type machine for handling heave equipment.

>>21141754
>>21141757
>>21141737
Maybe she jumped in it because she figured it was the only possible way of fighting off 03?

>>21141785
I said that.
>it was just all they had on hand capable of taking on 03 at the moment.

>>21141799
Fair enough then.

It's almost disappointing that the second image popped up. It really screwed up everything we thought we knew about the image.

>>21141785
Probably to buy Specs some time to escape.

That picture is kind of frustrating. There's not as much to work with.

>>21141515
how that exosuit works? it's like floating in her back with not junction with the legs

>>21141829
I don't think it does. Assuming the first picture takes place in the early morning.
>Specs is in there, probably working on Lefty as Righty waits for his turn.
>03 bursts into the room, see's the trio, raises her arm.
>Specs, knowing whats about to happen, screams and ducks for cover.
>Lefty, responding to specs, moves forward and attempts to stop 03 while Righty gathers his wits.
>03 slices across the room. Lefty raises arms to defend himself as both men are thrown from the room.
>Shockwave extends past the building, wreaking several others.
>03 grabs specs and begins leading him out of the building, fighting security all the way looking for....something.
>Get to area of building under construction, brave ass Randis girl attacks 03 with what she has on hand. Specs escapes at this point.
>Their tussle carries them over the side of the building.

>>21141879
In case you haven't guessed, this artist isn't really so good at details. Sure, he can draw a nice ass but the rest of the anatomy is sort of weird and distorted - just look at her left arm, it seems far too long.

Perhaps she's anchored to it by a strap around her torso or something? We can't see too much.

>>21141889
Nah, they're much higher up in Image 2 than they are in Image 1.

Grabbing specs was probably for bypassing security clearance on the higher levels.

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I fucking Love you guys.

This thread really makes me want to run a "Specs Quest."

>>21141921
both pics are from the same artist? first looks more handcrafted and the second more cgi-ish

>>21141967
So, she grabs him, hauls him up because he has the clearance she needs, get spotted by Randis (probably a friend of Specs, why else would she risk her life with clearly non-combat equipment) who tries to rescue him.

>>21141515
>walks barefoot around the building
>clean feet

>>21142033
Hopefully that's enough to allow for the escape of Specs - considering how high up he is in the building while 03 and Randis are falling to their deaths.
>>21142011
Yes.
http://randis.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/d2uhslk
http://randis.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/d2ux8te

>>21141879
There's no junction with the legs but there's crossing straps that seem to connect to her... chest.

So apparent the suit relies on her breasts not being torn off by the sheer weight.

>>21142090
well, if you could choose one place to stick cyborg enhancements..

>>21142064
Not necessarily. I'm still betting on Righty and Lefty being alive to catch them.

Then they take over the fight in the plaza.

You hearing this, Devientartist? I got part three all laid out for ya, all ya have to do is draw it!

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>>21139782

>Wand that shoots water

It suddenly occurs to me that I've never played a firefighter character in a DnD game before. Policeman, postman, astronaut, president(of a fan club, admittedly), teacher, doctor, lawyer, and a few other stereotypical "I wanna grow up to be an X" careers, but never a firefighter.

Thanks.

>"THE FLAMES OF HELL SHALL DEVOUR YOU ALL! AAAHAHAHAHAH!"
>"Excuse me. Do you have a burn permit?"

>>21139673

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bd2nWh6wui0#t=82s

>>21142143
Decanter of Endless Water

Aura moderate transmutation; CL 9th

Slot —; Price 9,000 gp; Weight 2 lbs.
Description

If the stopper is removed from this ordinary-looking flask and a command word spoken, an amount of fresh or salt water pours out. Separate command words determine the type of water as well as the volume and velocity.

“Stream” pours out 1 gallon per round.
“Fountain” produces a 5-foot-long stream at 5 gallons per round.
“Geyser” produces a 20-foot-long, 1-foot-wide stream at 30 gallons per round.

The geyser effect exerts considerable pressure, requiring the holder to make a DC 12 Strength check to avoid being knocked down each round the effect is maintained. In addition, the powerful force of the geyser deals 1d4 points of damage per round to a creature that is subjected to it. The geyser can only affect one target per round, but the user can direct the beam of water without needing to make an attack role to strike the target since the geyser's constant flow allows for ample opportunity to aim. Creatures with the fire subtype take 2d4 points of damage per round from the geyser rather than 1d4. The command word must be spoken to stop it.
Construction Requirements

Craft Wondrous Item, control water; Cost 4,500 gp

>>21142202

I'd forgotten about that item. Time to throw together a mess of a wand to do the same thing with the rules in the Dungeon Master's Guide to allow for a cheaper alternative that requires a Use Magic Device check, so I can keep the damned thing out of the power gamer's hands.

Hey guys, its just a cool image. Your Assburgers is showing.

>>21142314
That doesn't even make sense - calling out autistic behaviour would be more along the lines of us bitching each other out over differences in interpretation, but this thread's been quite civil. You've never over-examined something for fun? And we're not saying this makes the image bad, either, so...?

>>21142314
An images isn't just color on a paper. The best images are the ones that tell stories. Puzzling out these stories as a group is fun.

>>21142314
Please, go back to /pol/ or /tv/ or /v/ or somewhere else where this is valid criticism.

This is /tg/. We love talking about things and going into needless detail. We love pointing out things that other people don't notice and we appreciate it when we find out about these.

Really, why do all of the other boards go "lol aspie" whenever someone points out an interesting little fact they noticed? It's strange.

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>>21140531

Seriously. Fucking kids making references to things they like. What a bunch of faggots

Why can't they be cool and mature, like us?

>>21142108
>You hearing this, Devientartist?
Archiving and linking the thread to him would be kinda funny

>>21140561
>>21140643
>>21140813
>>21140833

There's also one other scenario. The one where the prototype is shit but proves it can work, then the second wave is fixed and badass but they run out of funding, so the third wave is cheaply made, mass produced models that are shit compared to the second gen. but still work better than the first. This is sorta what happened with the spartans from halo just for an example. If someone already stated this though, I apologize.