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So, you and your heroic band of adventurers discover what appears to be a sealed entrance to a cavern system of some sort. The location is devoid of ornamentation, barring a stone wall inscribed with text in numerous scripts and languages. Much of the text is damaged or otherwise indecipherable, but you manage to decode part of the writing in one of the ancient languages:

>do not enter
>this message is a warning about danger
>this is not a place of honor
>no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here
>nothing valued is here
>what is here is dangerous and repulsive to us

What would /tg/ do?
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Leave. It's dangerous, there's no loot, and there's no reason to be there.
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Blow it up of course
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>>20708035
>there's no loot
OR SO THEY CLAIM
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Build my new headquarters on top of it.

A slab of concrete never hurt keeping shit in. And a spooky sub basement is integral part of any self respecting lair.
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So you basically found a damaged but possibly still usable Rosseta Stone. Who cares what is inside, this wall alone might revolutionise the study of these ancient languages.
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I'm not a stupid movie main character, I leave the place alone.
Maybe even add more warning in new languages onto the inscribed text.
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This place contains an ancient malevolence.

The time of those old horrors is over. Go in to kill what ever is in there in the name of my god..
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Go in. There must be something significantly interesting. Fuck valuables. If it is valuables, good for me. If it's some sort of sealed evil in a can, I now know.

I cannot have regrets about leaving this mystery alone.

>eloquence ddoptsi
What does eloquence have to do with it, Captcha? What I choose to do is the purest form of ROMANCE.
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>>20708082
WIZARD GUYS
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>>20708030
If they didn't want it found, they wouldna made a marker! Bust in.
die of radiation poisoning
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>Control, this is Echo
>I have located the objective
>Request immediate reinforcements
>Deploy Omega team to my location as soon as the area is secured
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>>20708090
And think of it this way:

If you let it sit... You bury it. Section it off. Whatever. That will only delay the inevitable. Someone like me will enter and find/meet/activate whatever consequence which lays inside.

It is better to go in to discover before someone else, to take whatever rewards before the next. To let the world know of whatever evil lies beyond that stone so they shall not suffer it later with a false sense of security.
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>>20708144
Too late already exploded it. Its all exploded out and it wont be unexploded.
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>>20708090
>I cannot have regrets about leaving this mystery alone.

Exactly. This is why putting these kinds of signs in stone above nuclear waste sites (what the OP's messages are from) is a terrible idea. It completely fails to understand human nature.

If they really wanted people to stay away, they'd just try to make the area as boring as possible.
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>>20708184
boring ~= safe

>this is a great place to build a village!
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>>20708204

You're not thinking boring enough. Stick it under a salt flat contaminated with sulfur or something else that makes the salt taste bad. The entire area is completely lacking in use to humans.

Bam, nobody's going near that shit.
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>>20708030
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Man, guys, this is not how you seal something away. I mean, those languages are going to become entirely forgotten eventually, right? What if some aliens come along, or what if it's just civilization collapsing and being rebuilt from scratch before they're discovered again? You need a more universal indicator of "don't go here".

Skeletons.

No matter what kind of creature you are, reptile, bird, mammal, even insects really, skeletons seem to always look like skeletons. And, although some cultures can get pretty weird, it can be reasonably assumed that any creature will associate skeletons with death. So, for a start, put a lot of skeletons around the place. All over. Just statues of skeletons. In fact, just to be sure, line the entry corridor with stern-faced statues of dudes, all of them pointing back towards the entrance, whose flesh is gradually becoming more dessicated as you go down the line until eventually they're skeletons. Have some murals along the walls with skeletons as well, in that sort of half-3D wall sculpture way. Sense of touch is most likely to be universal.
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>>20708236
On the way up to the place, have a bunch of spikes lining the path, pointing away from the place you don't want people to go. Put them in some awkward positions, like one right bang in the middle of the path once in a while. And stick some skeletons on those suckers. Along the passage in, assuming your ancient evil is sealed under a mountain let's say, try some traps. Non-lethal, but painful; the ol' rope-with-spikes, perhaps, spikes that shoot up from the floor, some trap doors. Pain should also be a universal indicator of don-t-go-here-ness. They'd thank us if they knew what the traps were keeping them from.

Finally, the last door should be a mirror, surrounded with a frame filled with a variety of predatory creatures of all types, and skeletons. The handle of the door should reside inside a nook surrounded by a carving of lethal, befanged jaws.

When they open the door, just a room with some skeletons. actual skeletons, if you can manage some really good preservatives. Plus more skeletons statues. Poses of pain and suffering and so forth. The actual entrance to the sealed evil is through a secret door back up the way, open through three hidden levers that need all be pushed simultaneously.
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>>20708236
>>20708245
Or you could just explode it.
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http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/Anthro/Anth101/wipp.html
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>>20708236
>>20708245

"Oh man, if they're going to this much effort to keep people out, there must be mountains of treasure in there!"

--what literally every person says when they see all that shit.
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>>20708236
>>20708245
Sounds like a sick place for a Día de los Muertos party to me.
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The sign I'd put up?

>WARNING: Hazardous chemicals are inside. Hazardous chemicals will cause death via radiation/toxins/biological trauma.
>Do not enter this area without advised protection.
>£500,000 fine for entering this area, prohibited by law.

tl;dr STATE WHAT THE FUCKING HAZARD IS
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>>20708274

The problem is in explaining that shit to cavemen. Who knows what society will be like in 10,000 years?
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>>20708030
>take some rubbings make a few maps.
>sell the rubbings/maps
(adventures, scholars and wizards pay top gold for that dung)
>use money to run up more gambling debts
>move away and change my name again
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I run away and never come back. I have found the tomb of Kenny G.
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>>20708263
I think everyone was aware where OP took that from. Pretty obvious.

Although if your GM stole the warning for use in his own setting, there's no guarantee that whatever's contained there is nuclear waste.
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>>20708274
>>20708280

I'm telling you dude, skeletons.

If you want to be more specific, murals depicting the various horrors caused by your sealed radioactive waste or whatever. Exaggerate a little. Depictions of some terrible sun-entity blasting rays that make your flesh fall off. They'll understand.

If they don't, at least they'll be comforted, while their hair and teeth fall out, by the thought that "oh, that's what that meant".
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>>20708309
Or just explode it.
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>There is a dangerous creature inside
>We are not sure if it can be killed, but it can be contained
>Please leave the seal alone, to ensure that it remains caged

There, a better sign.
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>>20708274
But who are those heathen Chemicals?
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>>20708265
This. The tombs of Egyptian pharaohs were literally lined with all kinds of dire warnings, and people still looted them like it was flooding in Orleans.
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>>20708280
Hmm, good point.
>proximity to the materials inside these chambers will kill you.

If they can't understand that entering will kill them, then there's not much else you can say.
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>>20708315
they are repulsive to us
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>>20708309
Yet, people broke into pyramids. No threats of curses held them out.
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>>20708348
But put yourself in the shoes of say 19th century British explorers. Radioactivity is not yet discovered, warnings would be dismissed as superstitions of an ancient religion. Only this thing really will go full curse of the pharaohs on you.
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This is why I like the Finns approach. They are burying nuclear waste in a totally unremarkable area and leaving nothing that might attract people to dig there.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/waste/finlands-crazy-plan-to-make-nuclear-waste-
disappear-8732655
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>>20708347
>The tombs of Egyptian pharaohs were literally lined with all kinds of dire warnings, and people still looted them like it was flooding in Orleans.

That's because the the egyptian tombs wouldn't have full insigina of how radiation works.
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Leave a set of books in various languages in there with instructions on what to do in event of someone getting in. No matter what you do, it's still going to be possible that someone gets in.
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>>20708386
Pfft, that image just depicts the superstitious beliefs of the ancient ones, keep on digging until we hit the hidden treasure, boys!
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>>20708379
This is why you put encoded stone books about radioactivity and specific descriptions of what occurs.

EFFECTS OF RADIATION EXPOSURE ON HUMAN PHYSIOLOGY -

-LESS THAN 1 SV (5O–1OO REM)
MILD RADIATION SICKNESS WITH HEADACHE AND INCREASED RISK OF INFECTION DUE TO DISRUPTION OF IMMUNITY CELLS. TEMPORARY MALE STERILITY IS POSSIBLE.

01–2 SV (1OO–2OO REM) (LIGHT) 1O%% FATALITY AFTER 30 DAYS

2–3 SV (2OO–3OO REM) (MODERATE) 35%% FATALITY AFTER 30 DAYS

3–4 SV (3OO–4OO REM) (SEVERE) 5O%% FATALITY AFTER 30 DAYS

4–6 SV (4OO–6OO REM) (ACUTE) 6O%% FATALITY AFTER 30 DAYS

1O–5O SV (1,OOO–5,OOO REM) (ACUTE) 1OO%% FATALITY AFTER 7 DAYS

5O–8O SV (5,OOO–8,OOO REM) IMMEDIATE DISORIENTATION AND COMA IN SECONDS OR MINUTES. DEATH OCCURS AFTER A FEW HOURS BY TOTAL COLLAPSE OF NERVOUS SYSTEM.

MORE THAN 8O SV (>8,OOO REM) IMMEDIATE DEATH.
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RADIATION SICKNESS: SYMPTOMS AND SIGNS

NAUSEA AND VOMITING
DIARRHEA
SKIN BURNS (REDNESS, BLISTERING)
WEAKNESS, FATIGUE, EXHAUSTION, FAINTING
DEHYDRATION
INFLAMMATION OF EXPOSED AREAS
HAIR LOSS
ULCERATION OF THE ORAL MUCOSA
ULCERATION OF THE ESOPHAGUS
ULCERATION OF THE STOMACH
ULCERATION OF THE INTESTINES
VOMITING BLOOD
BLOODY STOOL
BLEEDING FROM THE NOSE, MOUTH, GUMS,
BRUISING
SLOUGHING OF SKIN
OPEN SORES ON THE SKIN
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How about "let them die until they learn to respect their ancestors"?

Fucking 4520s kids.
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>>20708386
Obviously this tripartite symbol is their pictogram for "curse."
>>20708451
Some kind of religious text?
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-AVAILABLE SIMULATIONS

FALKEN'S MAZE
BLACK JACK
GIN RUMMY
HEARTS
BRIDGE
CHECKERS
CHESS
POKER
FIGHTER COMBAT
GUERRILLA ENGAGEMENT
DESERT WARFARE
AIR-TO-GROUND ACTIONS
THEATREWIDE TACTICAL WARFARE
THEATREWIDE BIOTOXIC AND CHEMICAL
-
GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR
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>>20708451

I'm now picturing people in big space suit type things delving deep underground to explore these caves.

Anyway, I do like the Finns method. Bury it someplace no one wants to go, then leave no mark that it's there.
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The thing is, you can't stop people from getting in. We're humans. We just go about cunting things up.

So you have two options.

First, make the place horrifying as fuck, showing the progression of radiation sickness. You don't even need to exaggerate. Shit's fucking horrid. Make it obvious, and pictorial, as simple as possible. Do the spike-forest thing to make it horrible.

That way, when humans do find it, it'll be unlikely that they just charge in heedlessly, because scary means pay some heed. That menas not everyonewill die imediately of radiation poisoning, and some will live logn enough to realise SWEET FUCKING FUTUREJESUS THE SHIT ON THE WALLS IS COMING TRUE.

Bam. Nobody's going anywhere near there for another thouand years or so. A few peopel die, but hey, it's minimising damage.

And then there's the Icelandic way of makign it as unlikely as possible anyone will ever find it, and just hoping they figure it out by themselves when they do. The thing about people is that when staying in a place makes you die a lot, people will just move eventually.
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>>20708451
>>20708460
>year 40.000 AD
>implying anyone can read english
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>>20708460
looks like you missed one - well, it's strongly implied but you know how people can be about taking these things too literally and arguing to no nnd that they weren't warned about it

DEATH
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>>20708480
Then what do you get when land developers want to develop that land?

>>20708492
>year 40.000
>not having translator bots
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>>20708451
>IMMEDIATE DISORIENTATION AND COMA IN SECONDS OR MINUTES. DEATH OCCURS AFTER A FEW HOURS BY TOTAL COLLAPSE OF NERVOUS SYSTEM.

>IMMEDIATE DEATH.

Radiation can do that sort of stuff? I thought it was just a sort of slow-burn sort of thing, like being poisoned, but can it really just fry your nervous system like that?

Fuck me, that's terrifying.
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>>20708030

I want all that glowing uranium for myself.
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I'm thinking of copying that into my campaign and putting a world-eating eldritch abomination inside just to mess with savvy players. I can picture it already.

They'd grin smugly and ask me if Remove Disease cures radiation sickness.

And I'd tell them it does.
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>>20708518
Radiation is ionising, which is basically turning your body into ions. Ions fuck up your bloostream and nervous system ability to function.

As well as everything else.
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>>20708514
The entire point is that the land is so shitty that no-one wants to develop it. The Finnish facility is on a some godforsaken island in the middle of nowhere that's made of granite and not much else. The groundwater is salty, the soil is poor and there's no precious metals.
If you want to develop there you'll deserve what's coming for you.
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>>20708514

That's the point of it. The land they've picked is really bad for just about anything.

'The bedrock of Olkiluoto Island is boring, with no valuable metal ores or other enticements to encourage digging. The groundwater is unpleasantly salty, so it's not a good place to put in a well. The soil is bad for farming. Olkiluoto is at best unremarkable, and at worst unpleasant.'

To want to develop on Olkiluoto, you'd basically have to have every other spot in Finland already developed.
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>>20708485
They won't move on if they don't connect the land to the danger. If they're superstitious they might try to cleanse the land or appease the evil spirits.
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>>20708514
>year 2012
>see how well we can translate ice-age texts
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>>20708532
That's still pretty horrifying. I thought radiation, even in its worst doses was something you could away from and at worst, die over a matter of hours.

But dying, right on the spot?
>mfw
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>>20708557

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiCXb1Nhd1o
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>>20708565

Fuck, this wasn't the one with swiftly killing radiation.

Well, watching this made me fuckign scared of radiation.
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>>20708536
>the rhino tribe forces you out of fertile lands
>your decimated clan is forced to try to survive in a barren wasteland
>you dig a well
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>>20708030
I see what you did there op. Ha ha. But does /tg/ see what you did? Don't think so.

I won't approach the highly dangerous radioactive elements, of course.
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>>20708576

And dig up some delicious salt water. Mmm, drinkable.

>you quickly move on
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>>20708030
>do not enter
>this message is a warning about danger
>this is not a place of honor
>no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here
>nothing valued is here
>what is here is dangerous and repulsive to us

RELEASE THE CTHULHU!
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>>20708577
>Don't think so.
well, since the entire thread is about it...
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>>20708577
>I see what you did there op. Ha ha. But does /tg/ see what you did? Don't think so.

Confirmed for not reading the thread
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>>20708525
you sick bastard
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>>20708583

It might turn into a drinkable water in the half-times of the radiactive stuff.

Still, I want to doubt it.
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>>20708576
>even the ancients pick on the Buttmonkey Clan
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You know what virtually everyone finds repulsive? Bronies.

Give some of them the Han Solo treatment and inscribe some choice segments such as the Ponification of Tank Man. No one will go in there.
>The one good thing coming about from bronies is a universal, time spanning language of "get the fuck out."
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>>20708607
what if bronies are the only surviving humans?
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>>20708607

Now this is a good idea.

Only other Bronies will enter such a wasteland, and really, who cares about them?
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>>20708607
>put bronies on the warning sign
>future civilizations assume it was a prison for bronies
>"Let's crack 'er open and throw our unwanted in there!"
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>>20708610

>bronies
>humans

Pick one and only one.
If it gets to the stage that they're the only thing around then it's actually a good thing for them to open it.
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the problem with radioactive waste is that its active for such a long time.

a warning in english wont be enough. our waste will still be insanely deady even when mankind has perished. we are obliged to keep other species or even extra terrestrials safe.

nothing man made has even survived 1/10th of the time it takes for our waste to stop being active.
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>>20708610

I'm picturing an 'I am Legend' scenario where the last remaining human must keep his sanity in a world gone mad, a world populated entirely by Bronies.
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>>20708621

>future civilizations wanting anything to do with bronies

Nah man, they're bury the site and add their own warnings if anything.

There's a thought - they should "artifically" layer the sites with warnings from dozens, if not hundreds of civilizations from across the eras to show how not-to-be-fucked-with it it, culminating naturally with the bronies.
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>>20708624
Yes, thank you for pointing out the thing that everyone in this thread realizes.

The thing that is the point of OP's post.
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>>20708624
I still like the idea of just designing it to need maintenance. If every generation has to protect it and knows exactly what's in there and why, linguistic development/shift won't wreck our knowledge.
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>>20708629

His quest would naturally be to unleash the seal and cleanse the taint forever.
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>>20708610
Bronies are incapable of breeding.
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>>20708643


...unless exposed to radiation.
Dear god.
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>>20708601
>>20708601
They totally deserve it though.
Fucking Buttmonkey trash.
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>>20708643

Unless they capture women, force them to dress up like the damn ponies and use them like broodmothers.
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I don't get it.

Why don't they write two sets of warnings? First one stating scientifically that the stuff is radiactive and will fuck the reader up and the second about the terrible curse that will be on everyone who comes there? Also add all the scary things there.

If the future civilization is somewhat developed, it will get the first warning soon enough and leave the place alone. If the civilization isn't developed, they will link all the deaths caused by the place to the curse and not something else.
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>>20708635
I thought the whole problem in the first place is how to ensure the message comes across WITHOUT there being civilizational continuity in the area.

And in a scenario where a collapse happens but continuous maintenance is somehow still enforced, the meaning and understanding behind the undertaken actions could be lost, with only the ritual remaining. Holy site of a religion ahoy!
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>>20708672
>year 40.000
>implying anyone can read english
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The problem is no matter what they write or how they write it, something or someone is going to get in there.

To that end whilst they make all the warnings to keep anything out, I believe they should include a very small amount of material in a more accessible area of the site with universal symbols (i.e the same warnings or some similar link) so that whatever or whoever it is can witness what happens when they get close to it. Namely, die. Of course there would invariably be certain groups of things who'd see something like that and go "Yeah we can use that to kill things better, or maybe it has some interesting properties we can use if we can just find a failsafe." No matter what, it has to be assumed something's getting in.

They should devote all the resources into a giant catapult and fling that shit into the sun instead.
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>>20708691

That's why they need to add all the scary things.

A civilization that is somewhat developed should be able to decipher the text or atleast link the deaths to the location.
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>>20708630
yes and then some (alien) archeologist sees that the area is perfect for "reseaching" older civilizations.
by doing that you give our hiding place worth. thats the exact opposite of what we try to do.

>>20708633
by reading the thread i came to the conclusion that many posters dont fully realize how terribly long nuclear waste is around.

>>20708635
you cant guarantee that future generations continue the maintenance. we had countless wars/genocides in the past 2000 years alone.

we have to guarantee its safety for at least 250.000 years
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>>20708674
>the Ark of the Covenant was a radioactive waste container unearthed by ancient Hebrews
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>>20708707

>Implying we won't be able to process the waste in the near future
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In spite of the fact that OP didn't mention nuclear waste storage and this is probably intended to bu used on some ancient tomb in a fantasy setting let me add my two cents to the whole nuclear waste site protection debate.

There is no way to make sure nothing digs it up. You can try by putting it really deep into the ground and blowing the shafts (just like that, baby). That should keep animals away. But what about tectonics.

Those super safe salt deposits the nuclear industry is so fond of? Check out the Asse II mine. They can't predict geologic shift for 30 years. They sure as hell can't for 10,000. And water? Ice? that stuff gets everywhere, grinds down solid rock, and transports dust all around the world. There is no save place. Not for 10,000 years. 10,000 years ago the last ice age ended!

And to produce signage that would be universally understood? Impossible! Anything you leave in place will attract attention. Intelligence comes from curiosity. Any society that can produce drills is clearly already very interested it things it cannot reach easily.

Just imagine we found a new pyramid under the sand somewhere, littered all over with clearly understood warnings about some invisible evil entombed inside. Even if the door read "Do not open, everyone everywhere will die!" we'd still have archaeologists digging down. If they didn't believe the warnings. If they did it would be a military operation.
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Rather than just straight up saying "this shit'll kill you" in as many ways as possible it should have that and then turn into like, the E-how of management for the stuff. So, what it is, why it's there, how to look after yourself and not die if you decide to go in.

Then the onus is on them whether they go in or not, we'll be dead by that point.
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>>20708725

That kind of society might have geiger style counter.

Might.
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>>20708729
how will you write the message?
What language? What material?

Its easier said than done. When in 250.000 years mankind is extinct and dolphins rule the planet they wont even know there IS a message.
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>>20708598
You heard it on /tg/ first. The ocean will stop being salt water.
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>>20708747

>When in 250.000 years mankind had evolved into god like beings who can do fucking space magic

ftfy
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>>20708747
fuck dolphins

fuck whales too
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>>20708747

Stick figures.

Any nigger can read those.
May as well turn the place into a museum for both tradtional and abstract art too, see if they can interpret their own meanings out of blank canvases.
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>>20708525
>>20708525
this
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>>20708755
"Oh boy, an art museum! There must be countless treasures in here!"
"Wait... why do they all depict people dying horribly?"
"COUNTLESS. FUCKING. TREASURES. Now get out of my way, I'm going to be famous whether you like it or not."
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>>20708725
>OP quotes nuclear waste disposal site warning
>lol who needs to read the thread
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Wait, so far the solution to nuclear waste is to put them back in the ground.
What if the uranium mines were nuclear/some sort of even deadlier material waste dumping grounds in the distant past?
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>>20708786

Fill it up with the content generated from famous video game review rebsites, one with 3 letters and one with 6. Take that famous social media site and the one that serves to steal everything and put its watermark on it and throw them in too.

They'll burn the place from orbit.
If they're not in orbit, they'll get the tech to be so and then burn it.

>apparently mentioning those is a spam filter
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Idea: make a death trap that will kill them when they try to get in.

Just kill everyone who tries to get in.

Warn them first, sure, but if they don't heed the warning, kill the fuck out of them so the bad stuff doesn't get out.
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>>20708786
>this is what egyptologists actually believe
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Engraved on the stone tab:

"We're not kidding around. To demonstrate this: if you DO enter this place, send one person only, and let him leave. Then watch him over 7 days. He will die.

The same fate will befall you if you enter here."
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>>20708750

Are you that uneducated?

>implying there can't be drastic effects on sea level by sudden tectonic activity or perhaps an ice age
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>Hey guys! How could we make a warning for OTHER SPECIES AFTER WE NO LONGER EXIST

Who.The fuck.Cares.

We should have a sign that says "NUCLEAR WASTE DUMP, STAY OUT!" and then for the little faggot creatures that come after us, a stick man opening the door to what looks like gold doing a thumbs up because who cares? WE'RE DEAD.
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>>20708809
>40.000 years
>implying that anyone can still read english
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Cant we dump that shit into space, presumably into the path of the sun, which in itself is one big ball of radiation?
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>>20708811

Also, Baltic Sea is almost a fucking lake and the sea bed is still rising.

Ocean currents might turn the water drinkable, or several things might dry the thing up,
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>>20708823

We currently have no means of getting it safely into space. Launching nuclear material through the atmosphere = bad idea.
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>>20708823
>Cant we dump that shit into space

>every_fifth_grader's_idea_ever.jpg
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>>20708821
If there's a less-than-completely-specious reason to care about humans while they're alive, but not about aliens after humans are dead, I'd like to hear it.
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>>20708823
No. It's too much. Way too much.

You'd have to lift the equivalent of a city into orbit.

And there's no way telling if our sun can take it. That's a whole bunch of super heavy atoms injected into a giganormous fusion reactor that runs on a careful balance of neutron pressure vs gravitational stability.
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>>20708811
Case in point: the Finnish facility is on an island in the Baltic sea, which is receding because the ground still rises after being crushed by glacial masses of the last ice age. It's been estimated that it will be cut from the north Atlantic in a couple of 10k years.
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>>20708861

He didn't say that the little faggot creatures coming after us weren't human.
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>>20708823
ok are you the one who is designing / building the rockets?

keep in mind you are also the one who is responsible if the rocket launch fails and we shoot radioactive waste all over the globe
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>>20708862
While it's true that we can't lift nuclear material out of Earth's gravity well, nor push it sideways fast enough to cancel the velocity that would cause it to just orbit the sun (it was launched from Spaceship Earth, remember), the sun is MORE than massive enough to devour it and not flinch.

MAYBE if you dropped the entire planet in, it'd notice. Till then, sun don't got no reason to care.
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>>20708862
We can't know until we try it. We should do it and see what happens to the sun. Its like, way big.
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>>20708862
It won't be a problem. Not for a few hundred million years. Then it will have shortened the lifetime of Sol by 1,000 standard years for every ounce injected. Who cares?
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>>20708887
That picture is hilarious
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>>20708887
>MY INCANDESCENCE KNOWS NO LIMITS
>THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM
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>>20708909
Which is actually true. It's not.

Here's hoping that when we're dead and gone, our sun turns into a black hole after going supernova, and swallows up an alien race. Fuck aliens.
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>>20708887
That ozone just deflects off a bit of UV. The real force field is our magnetosphere, supposedly created by earth's spinning molten core.
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>>20708929

The sun is very hot, so is a molten core.
The sun is trying to get to the core.
The core is the suns child that it is trying to rescue.
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>>20708946
The core is the sun's son!
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>>20708946
It makes so much sense!
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>>20708917

Well, it will be less incandescent in its next forms (or, its next form and then its not-being-a-star form), so I'd argue that this is in fact its final form, in terms of power.
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>>20708955

It also has a side goal of eradicating people like you.

Thanks for killing us all, jerk.
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>>20708899
I would still rather not risk it. Sure there's probably some denser materials within the sun, but stars in general find anything Iron or heavier to be an anathema to their lifespan. Thankfully ours doesn't burn hot enough to fuse atoms into Iron... if it did, we'd be looking at a supernova apocalypse. Even so, I wouldn't want to throw something far heavier into our sun on the idea of it being large enough to take a citiy's worth of it.
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>>20708946
What are gas giants then?

My next BBEG is a star given sapience attempting to reclaim its child imprisoned within a world.
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>>20708946
When our solar system coalesced from the dust cloud that made it and the sun was formed it hungrily gulped down all matter into its gravity well, making it stronger and harder to resist. The few planets that remain are the resistance fighters that banded together to overcome the ever pressing urge to drop into the hungry sun with sheer speed. They've been racing for millennia now, and they can't get away, the sun has become too strong. They will never be able to get away.

But they're still running.
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>>20708969
But red giants are more luminous. Incandescence isn't even a real measurement.
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>>20708981

The shedded skin of a star.
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>>20708917
>Here's hoping that when we're dead and gone, our sun turns into a black hole after going supernova, and swallows up an alien race.

Won't happen. Our sun is not large enough to form a Black Hole when it collapse after it's Red Giant phase. It will shrink down and become a white-dwarf as it slowly cools off. The closest star to us with a threat of going either Super Nova or collapsing to a Black Hole, would be Beetlegeuse, iirc.
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>>20708999
u just jelly cuz I'm incandescing on you

I thought red giants, expelling less energy, would be less luminous. Certainly less luminescent, although they're obviously not the same.
Are you certain red giants give off more light?
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>>20709024
Each square meter of the surface is dimmer and cooler, but the total surface is so much larger that the luminosity - the total emitted light - increases.
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Did I hear someone talk about the sun?

Because, you know. PRAISE THE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN

PRAISE THE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
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>>20709037
Well I'll be damned.

Curse you, primary school physics! Curse you and your vague descriptions of astronomy!
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>>20709049
>Curse you and your vague descriptions of astronomy!
I completely agree with you. Everything I learned about astronomy came from the internet and an insatiable urge to learn more about stuff beyond our world. Hell you think primary school was bad? My first 3 years or so of primary were in a Christian School where they were required to have some sort of lesson regarding space... Their way of teaching it was "This is what evil sinners believe, and none of it exists! Our sun is really Jesus and he watches you masturbate and expel solidified evil from your back end!"
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>>20709042
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/tg/ - nuclear waste & astrophysics
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Enter, of course.

For the sake of ADVENTURE!
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>>20709071
I'd fuck schoolgirl rule 53 Solaire.
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>>20709075
/tg/. Idiot Savants. Idiot Savants of all types, everywhere.
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What if instead of text, you just put up pictures of people dying of radiation exposure?

Print them on something polymeric so they don't rot.
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>>20709128
>What if instead of text, you just put up pictures of people dying of radiation exposure?

You know how all those Egyptian pyramids have warnings about curses that will befall you if you enter?

Turns out people don't tend to believe warnings they find on things that could have valuables inside.
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>>20708030
Crack it open,boys! the energies can't harm us if we stand 30 feet back and haul it with ropes!
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I've only read so far as a paladin and a spec ops team raiding the site, and I can't help but snicker.
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>>20709225
(Think captcha stole my pic.)
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>>20709042
PRAISE THE SUN

Before it starts harassing us over our gaming habits
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>>20709082
It's Rule 63 and that's Mabel from Gravity Falls, a fun show whose fanbase is only *just* starting to turn bad.

I have no idea why there are all these Dark Souls / Gravity Souls pictures.
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>>20708236
>>20708245
But something you're overlooking is that some knowledge of our civilization might survive the 10000 years it needs to last: *We've never built anything like this.*
>"Yeah, it's concrete, all of it, like the Americans used to build with... But it's too sturdy to be a simple mausoleum, and it DEFINITELY doesn't look like a military bunker. I don't know what to make of it, orders sir?"
>Keep exploring... but cautiously,"
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Assuming you can get reliable enough spaceflight, put it on the moon. If you can get reliable enough spaceflight with enough power, drop it into jupiter.

If you can't, take a really deep mine (1mile down at least), and shove it in there. Only someone with the tech to know what it is will find it.
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>>20709669
>take a really deep mine (1mile down at least), and shove it in there

Sir, I think we found something...
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>>20709713
MINE. On Land. Like shoving it into TauTona mine after we get all the gold out. Then fill it up with rock and concrete.
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yes, because of this part

>what is here is dangerous and repulsive to us
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>>20708576
>the retarded leftists have come up with such a bad immigration policy that the nig nogs have started forming clans and keep on fighting amongst themselves like they did back in the shit-covered Assholia that is Africa
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fuck it, fill the nuke site with actual treasures along with statues of people melting away to skeletons and engravings of burning cities and all that jazz.

this time the curse of the pharaoh is real, bitch
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>>20709963

Making the places real life dungeons would be awesome.
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after surmounting the poisoned arrow traps, false floors, room of mirrors, den of bears, falling ceilings, doors that lead to pits and swinging blades i have finally reached the dungeons atrium. All of my compatriots have given their lives for the treasure behind these doors.

a bunch of unmarked barrels? Fuck you ancient race.
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Besides he obvious reasons, shooting nuclear waste into space is a bad idea, since it could be the fuel for the next generation breeder reactors. It might be very well that in the future nuclear waste is a valuable commodity.
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Write my initials on the wall and leave.
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>>20708981
A gas giant, IIRC, is an almost-star.

I'm sure you can work with that.
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>>20708236
>build facility in the desert
>wait for hippies to come and protest
>machine gun the fucking lot of them
>leave the bodies as a warning
I like this plan
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>>20708236
"Well, it seems they had a healthy respect for death, and the dead.."

"Maybe this is some form of crypt, or a temple to some death god?"
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Oh hey, cuneiform script. Cool.
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>>20708624
>extra terrestrials
>implying beings capable of interstellar travel haven't figured out radiation yet
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rolled 13 = 13

>>20708030
i roll intimidate at the wall
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I've read that article, so I bug the fuck out as hard as I can in the other direction.
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So, why can't the languages also try to convey:

This is useless radioactive garbage that we had to dump here because it couldn't go anywhere else. if you fuck with it, the stuff will kill you. You know what radiation is, right? Unstable elements that emit small particles as they decay? (Picture of atom, diagrams of people's hair falling out).

How long is the half-life on some of this stuff? Because if it's 5000 years, any humans around will still fucking know what radiation is. And if it's 2,000,000 years, and it's the expansionist conquistador Corvidae Empire fucking around with it, then shouldn't most of it be safe?

Humans will remember what radiation is, and by the time a new intelligent species arises, it'll be safe. What's the problem, here?
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>>20711169
What if there's a race war, society collapses, and idiot niggers inherit the world and disdain any of that "white cracka learnin' shit"?
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>>20711194
...Race war? As opposed to any other sort of war?

Information is SO EASY to get now, and Hardcopy still exists in safe, secure places. It's absurd that EVERY SINGLE BOOKSHELF ENCYCLOPEDIA set would be destroyed. People might not know how to make computers, but they can still read about how electrons and chemicals work

And if such a culture is actually THAT hostile to Knowing Things About The World, then they deserve to die horribly of radiation poisoning.
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Okay, here's what you do.

You line the hall with statues, right? They show a sequence. A man opens a large door, and walks in. He walks for awhile, and comes to a lot of barrels. He then scratches his head.

Then the radiation sickness happens. Display it as gruesomely as possible. His skin bubbles and drips off. His blood boils inside his veins. His veins evaporate, and his internal organs rupture and simply bleed everywhere. His bones crack and tumble, as his body melts around them. The last few statues show the puddle that he once was evaporating, and then the bones sublimate. Then, there is an arrow. It points at the people walking down the hall. The next one has the door from the first one on it, and an arrow moving through the opened doors. Then, an arrow points forwards. The process of the man melting happens again.
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>>20708887
I take it you don't know how fusion works.
Fusing anything heavier than iron takes energy out of the system. Dumping load after load of nuclear waste and shielding into a fusion reaction would start putting it out.
Sun goes out = we're fucked.

By far the best way to dispose of it is to bury it really fucking deep and put as good a warning on as possible. If possible, drill through the crust and send it back where it's meant to be.
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>>20711226
Arguably our information is getting more transient by the day.

Inscriptions in stone last thousands of years. Books can last centuries. Modern digital storage devices have a lifetime of several decades.

Obviously the sheer scope of our civilization and the volume of our creations is enough to ensure some artifacts remain, but much will be lost forever in a relatively short time if not maintained.
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>>20711795
I'm only an undergraduate physics student, but you're an idiot.

The mass of the core of the sun (the place where fusion reactions take place) is around 10% of the sun's mass, or roughly 2E29 kilograms. The mass of all the Earth is around 6E24 kg. That's THE ENTIRE PLANET. If you dropped Earth into the sun, the resulting vapour of ions would be denser than the sun's primarily-hydrogen make up, and would sink to the core, where it would make up roughly three parts in every hundred thousand of the sun's core (fusion reactor).

The Earth is much larger than all of humankind's nuclear waste. Much much larger.
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>>20711795
>Fusing anything heavier than iron takes energy out of the system
Fusing and creating Iron takes energy out of the system, too! A star that burns hot enough to create iron, is a start that's just signed it's own death-sentence and will go Super Nova.
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>>20712189
Further, according to http://chemistry.about.com/b/2010/06/15/chemical-composition-of-the-sun.htm , the sun already contains iron, about 0.014% by mass. That's to be expected, as the sun formed from the same post-supernova cloud of gas and dust as Earth did. Now, this gives the mass of iron in the sun as ~2.8E28 kg, or very roughly 500 times the mass of the Earth. Is the Sun going out any time in the next 5 billion years? No? Who'd have guessed.
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>>20712269
Sorry, reduce those figures by a factor of 100. Percentages, durr.

That leaves merely 5 Earth masses of iron in the Sun. Which is hardly anything. Oh, wait.
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>>20711795
It's a question of scale. Dumping nuclear waste into the sun would be like injecting someone with five molecules of strychnine. We could as just as easily dump it into Jupiter, anyway.

The real problem is what happens when something goes wrong with the launch mechanism. No one wants to deal with an out of control rocket loaded with explosive fuel and radioactive waste.
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>>20712269
B-but, Anon-kun, you don't understand. Humanity strong, humanity can put down the Sun.

Fuck them.
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>>20711015
They're simply a *possible* uncoverer of all this muck, and that's why they were suggested.

And it could be that they didn't think to wave around their Skg-T-g'h'hen counters before entering the area.
...Come to think of it, if they've found Yucca mountain(I think it was?) nuclear disposal site first thing, they're either very (un)lucky explorers, or have set up a colony or something and started exploring the rest of the county/country/planet/etc. Whoever is going in there could be anything, children, hikers...
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>>20712173
This. The CDs you burned yourself 10 years ago are starting to decompose right about now. VHS and audio cassettes degrade with every use and become blank, eventually. It is literally impossible to find a modern computer on the market that has a floppy drive. I'm writing this message on a image board that is transient by nature, and this message will disappear within a day or so.
Even though the information available right now is massive, vast majority of it is stored on media that won't survive hundred years.
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>>20711542
Jesus High-Holy Christ.

... How do you convey that a statue's blood is boiling?
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>>20708716
I now believe this is historical fact.
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/tg/ - Statues of Puddles
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>>20712553
You now witness the apex of our culture.
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>>20712599
>You now witness the apex of our culture.
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>>20712299
what about space elevators?
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bump for hilarity


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