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You are a Magical Girl, and you are not amused.

You've never been good in social situations, especially when you're more or less at the center of them. Guarding a principal in the middle of a record launching-cum-gala doesn't count - in the guise of a maid, you're practically rendered invisible from the sight of others, and that suits you just fine. But for those that actually involve your active participation, when the attention itself is on you - you don't deal with it all that well. You don't want to deal with it at all, period.

But you have to, and you know that the longer you put this off, the worst it'll get.

Just like tearing off gauze from a wound that's already dried.
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>>20056236

It's morning. When you should be in your own apartment and starting your day off with half a bottle of whiskey and a handful of painkillers, you're in the Dining Hall of a certain Garcia Lovelace instead, at the far end of a table long enough to sit a large number of rich people. At the opposite end is Garcia Lovelace himself, sitting right beside your Principal, Minase Iori. They've been smiling and laughing together before you came in, eating breakfast like a couple of lovebirds.

For some reason, you've been clenching your right hand for a fair bit as you watch them together. You loosen your fingers just as soon as you notice, wondering what brought that on.

In any case, Garcia had just asked you to join him - and Iori - for the consumption of breakfast and breakfast-related foodstuffs. You're not really one to barge into other people's houses to join them in the first meal of the day, but you're certainly not one to refuse a free meal. Especially if said meal consists of a nice healthy stack of perfectly-baked pancakes, with the right amount of syrup and a small slice of butter floating at the very top, shaped like a flower. Just like how Mami made them for you.

You start to wonder just how much Iori had told the Lovelace household about you.

Staring at the stack of pancakes, you let out a sigh, before looking at Garcia and then nodding.

"Fine," You hear yourself say. "I can spare a few minutes."

[1/3]
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I MISSED YOU, DECULTURE. DO WE GET TO ADD A LITTLE BROWN THIS TIME?
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>>20056242

You take your seat at the far end, across from Iori and Garcia, and you unfurl the folded linen handkerchief placed near the utensils laid out beside your plate with a snap. Fabiola steps forward to help you place the napkin itself on your lap, but she stops as she sees you tie the cloth around your neck in a crude bib. She all but giggles into a gloved hand as she looks at you, and you give her a glare.

"What?" You ask her, annoyed. She shakes her head and steps back, the small smile remaining on her face moments before it's smoothed out with maidly dignity.

You hear another giggle from across the table, and you turn towards the source of the sound. Garcia is studiously studying the remains of his eggs and bacon, while Iori is turned away, although her shoulders are shaking slightly.

Rich people, you grumble as you pick up your knife and fork.

Might as well see how their kind of pancakes measure up to Mami's, you think as you get started on the pancake at the very top of the pile. Spearing it right through with one judicious stab of the fork.

[2/3]
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>>20056253

[3/3]

"So, um, Matsuda-san." Garcia says after a moment of silence where he - and Fabiola - just stares in astonishment as they watch you demolish three pancakes without even stopping. "I'd like to personally thank you for helping us with the...incident from last night. I don't know what Fabiola and I would've done if you weren't there."

You shake your head as you get started on your sixth pancake, the fourth and fifth already well on their way down your stomach. You tell him that Fabiola was more than enough to get him out of any scrap - you just took the credit by shouting a lot and being really pushy. If there's anyone that needs thanking, it's the both of them - as they helped you get Iori and her friends to safety while you ran off being stupid.

"A-ah. Well, um. It was nothing, really..." Garcia seems to be flushing crimson at your praise, a fact you don't notice as you're literally demolishing that pancake tower. For pancakes that Mami didn't have a hand in, they were...alright. Yes. That's as far as you're going to go with your praise.

You notice Iori elbowing him slightly on the side, and the young man clears his throat.

"Um. Well, in any case. Matsuda-san, Iori-san wants me to tell you that she's happy that you're alright. What she's not happy about is that you took much too long to tell her. She was...very worried, and if she says if you're just going to spend your time fooling around with other girls..." It's here that Garcia goes red. "...you should at least have the decency to tell her first."

How do you respond?
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im here!!!!
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>>20056258
One, there was no fooling.

Two, I don't have to report my activities to a child.

Three, she can talk to me herself or I can leave. I'll have plenty of fun shooting the mecha-bears while she stews here.
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>>20056270
Nobody cares.
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>>20056258
Respond with: These pancakes are delicious, May I have some more?
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It's my decision who I'm drinking with, isn't it? Oh. By the way: You don't mind Iori sticking around for a while longer, do you?
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"I was not fooling around. That was an important work meeting her endless calls interrupted."
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>>20056258
That was actually an interrogation believe it or not.

One should never get ones fans drunk when trying to pry information out of them
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>>20056283
This
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>>20056258
[ ] We were not fooling around with other girls, we were getting very drunk. The drinking partner however was a bit... amorous... on her own. Not doing THAT again.
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>>20056258
Sadly, that was an Interrogation. I spare no methods to get what I want. I know I should have called you earlier, Iori, but I was a bit shaken and needed a drink, then I got called over to the office, and things got a bit out of hand.

I don't really fool about.
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>>20056283
This, We shouldn't have to report everything to Iori.
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>>20056258
Look at Iori and apologize to her.
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>>20056258
>How do you respond?
sigh "I'm not really used to having someone actually care for me. So I underestimated how worried Iori was. The yesterdays mission turned out to be quite challenging, even by my standards, so I needed some time off, which usully means - if I might be so honest - heavy drinking and forgetting the world around. As for the fooling around part - that was kind of unexpected turn of the events. I could explain further but I assume it would be quite awkward for all of us."
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>>20056305
this
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>>20056283
I like this... aside from the harsh third bit.

We should get her to talk alone with us though.
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>>20056283
That's a bit harsh. We don't really want to sever ties with Iori. Or do we? Did I miss something in post thread chat last thread?
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>>20056258

"I wasn't fooling around, I was interrogating someone. Take that for what you will but do you really think I would called during a sex session?"
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>>20056258
Believe me, it wasn't fooling around. I needed a few drinks--a big few, that is--and I didn't want to bother you with the state I was in. The other girl was rather, ah, peculiar in her behaviours, and I apologise for that.
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>>20056258
Face Iori. Make it quite clear we're not going to put up with childish games of 'I'm not talking to you'.
Point out that, after shredding the demon formerly known as Lance Kilgore into meaty chunks with a very large rifle normal used for stopping tanks, our emotional state was not particularly conducive to rational thought.
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>>20056283
>>20056298
Strike Two, I don't have to report my activities to a child. and stuff about being a dick to Iori.
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I was not fooling around, I was conducting an interrogation. admittedly it was an interrogation that got really weird really fast, and involved a lot of alcohol, But it was still an interrogation.
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>>20056258
"I wasnt fooling around. Alright, Im sorry if I didnt respond to you immediately, but given the fact that I was nearly turned into that demon baron's sad excuse for lambchops, along with other nasty things that happened in that fiasco. I think I earned a few hours to waste myself with alcohol"

"And there was no fooling. I just thought that I could waste someone I needed to interview to smooth out her tongue. Though she has a really weak head for booze, but then again I dont particularly care."
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>>20056318
She's getting clingy and possessive, we need to stop apologising for every little thing we do that she disagrees with. We don't necessarily want to sever ties, just stop being whipped.
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>>20056318
We actually want to sever our ties and fork her off on Garcia. She's safer with him, we decided.
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>>20056258
Deep sigh.

"I could explain myself, and how things weren't what they seem, but really, this is a good opportunity for something else.

Being around me long-term isn't healthy, Iori. If being mad at me is what gets you to live your own life, then i can live with that.

I could also live with more pancakes. And some waffles to go, my driver is probably hungry."
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>>20056258

Hmm. Quite a quandary we have here. I'm fairly sure that the explanation of the truth requires a lot of disclosure of Magical Girl internal workings that aren't meant for the general public. Even with all the classified bits left out, I think that it would sound very outlandish and ridiculous.

I wonder if these pancakes and the whole thing are just a way of getting back at us, or if it's something there intended to lessen the blow of some more news that Iori thinks is serious. If Mami was amongst the other Eversors guarding the mansion, it's likely that Iori confided in her about this... although I'm not sure how such a discussion would influence Iori's attitude. What game is she playing here?
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>>20056316
I like this version of it
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Whatever we say, say it to Iori. None of this passive agressive talking through Gracia buisness.
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So, a question about pancakes.
What does the butter on the top actually /do/? I mean, it's there for the first one, but then it's just gone. What was the point?
Furthermore, wouldn't the syrup make them all sticky, especially the ones lower down? Sodden, even, when it's soaked through the layers.
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It wasn't fooling around actually.

Drinking with a subordinate who turned out to be a fan of my work is not really a good idea in hindsight
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>>20056353
If you leave it longer than a few seconds it will soak through the centre of the pile.

Mainly it is there to look nice though.
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>>20056340
she being a petulant child and talking to us though a 3rd party at the same table. I could care less what she wants.

>>20056353
this with >>20056348 . fuck this 3rd party shit.
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>>20056353
I butter them as they're being stacked. The pat on top is just for garnish.

And you make it sound like something soaked with maple syrup is a bad thing. If you used real syrup, i'd probably have a go at eating maple-coated cardboard.
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>>20056353
The syrup is there because it tastes good and you are meant to eat them with a fork thereby avoiding the issue of them being sticky.

Plus there is nothing so good as a stack of pancakes soaked in good quality maple syrup with a pat of butter on top, simple and delicious
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>>20056359
Could it be that she is actually a child that thinks her idol and protector suddenly dumped her emotionally?
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>>20056258
Eat up Pancakes without saying anything. Then proceed to speech the shit up in out in our raspy, booze-face-voice
"..When did it start to be her business what I do and who I fool around after work?. Miss Minase seems to nurture the foolish notion that there is something more going on between me and her than just being the girl I have to protect due to my work."

"Frankly, she is being a pain in the ass. Look around. This is where you belong. In a clean, little, 40-carat coated world with frilly maids and dinner tables huge enough to authorize shouting at each other over the goddamn table.

She doesn`t belong somwhere where people try to murder you in the most bloody, violently way possible. "
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>>20056358
>>20056370
>>20056377
I see.
I'll have to try these pancake things sometime.
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>>20056370
>the one on top is just garnish
nigga what.

however, real maple syrup would make dirt taste good.
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>>20056258
First there was no fooling around.
Secondly, since when are you my girlfriend that I have to report my answers to you.
Finally, if you have something to tell me you can say it yourself, not use your kind host as a referee. That's insulting for all of us.
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>>20056385
>>20056359
You shut your whore mouth.
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Iori's getting complacent. We should apologise for at least not calling her to confirm our well being and the only reason we're apologising is because we view her as a friend now.

We probably shouldn't pretend that what we were doing didn't involve pleasure in some way. The lie will get back to us eventually. Instead we should simply explain that sometimes we need to get away and drink with strangers. It's less intense and doesn't kill the mood with talking about emotions.

She's lived with us for a week or so now. She should get a hint about what we're like. We do this, we are our own agent. She's not our wife.
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>>20056395
Get out, /a/non. You don't belong here.
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>>20056392
actions not answers.
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>>20056395
should I get a WAHHHHHHHHHHBULANCE for you?

she's acting like a faggot and will get treated as such.
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>>20056337
>She's safer with him, we decided.
No we didn't.
She's just going to get killed while under Lovelace's protection instead.
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>>20056359
>>20056385
>>20056283

Let's not do these. We're an alcoholic and a mildly insensitive prick with an ever dwindling social circle, but we are not such a huge asshole to intentionally sabotage one of the only friendships we have left.

Lets apologize for giving her the wrong impression, say we were out drinking or interrogating or some shit, and maybe later we can give her our soul gem to lick as a present of something.
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>>20056427
Yeah. The danger doesn't go away just because she isn't with us any more.
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>>20056427
She'll die under ours, too. Under his she's at least happy for a while. Under ours she'll only be frustrated, sad, angry and neglected.
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>Apologizing to Iori instead of using the opportunity to get her out of our face.

You people are like a bunch of fucking retards. This is the perfect time to get her out of our world, but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo that would be to fucking easy for you waifu-shipping sweaty fucking retards. Lets better endanger some "Normal" people some more by being around us!

Seriosly, it just boggles my mind how people on /tg/ manage to be so fucking-retarded to try to keep Iori around us.

Clearly because I somewhat like Iori, I don`t want her stick around and catch glimpses of our world. You can`t fucking do that for a prolonged time and stay unscathed,

Tell her to stay the fuck away from us!
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>>20056423
>she's acting like a faggot and will get treated as such.
Ah, so just like how we normally act, and why we only have 3 friends and 1 fangirl, and everyone else either hates us or avoids us.
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>>20056429
I agree with this guy.
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>>20056429
Get out, /a/non. We don't want her to jump our bones.
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Look, whatever we say, can we at least underline the importance of the fact that Kyuubies belong in a woodchipper?
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>>20056405
>>20056395
Can we not get into some sort of interboard skimrish and focus on what's important here?

We've got an emotionally vested client. This requires tact. A resource that has been shown, and commented upon, to be lacking in Matsuda. Last thing anyone needs is an emotional breakdown.

So the question is, how to handle this with the minimum amount of tact to not cause Iori to have an emotional meltdown and cause Chernobyl II inside this fellow's (admittedly gigantic) dining room.

There have been a couple decent suggestions. Anyone care to suggest anymore?
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>>20056427
...Does it really matter? This is noir, people die. If you're that worried I'm sure we could post people to look after her.

>>20056429
Why are we being so kind to her? She's acting like a child and should be treated as such. We shouldn't give her out soulgem to lick as a present, or any weird shit like that. I like her, but holy shit, she's got us under the thumb. We shouldn't apologise for what we do in our private time.
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>>20056436
Denying her the choice of her happiness is immorral.
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>>20056288

Seconding pancakes.

If she wants to play this game, we'll respond in kind.
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>>20056438
>push her away in the most painful, insensitive manner possible
>she harbours a grudge
>finds a golden hairpin or something
WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
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I'm in favour of calling her a child. She's acting like one, and even though Chiaki really does care for her, as much as her scabby little soul can allow, she still doesn't have to take crap from her. It makes sense for the character as we've developed her to give into Iori far more than nay other person, but to be frank, Murderface is still a bitch, and if we don't let that show through some times, we're not undergoing character development, we're just playing a different character.
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>>20056450
this. We have no reason to feel bad for doing what we wanted in our free time. she not our "keeper" and we don't have to be her lapdog.
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Iori is a dame, not even our ideal dame. She's the dame that clutches on to us for protection as we've proven time and time again we are the only one capable of it.

All said and done though, she's at best a friend and at worst someone we're getting paid to protect. Not calling her after the incident to confirm we were alright is bad, as a friend, but we're not obliged to keep her informed of our business and pleasure.
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>>20056462
Keep in mind that pretty much everyone in the quest IS infact a child.
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>>20056462
This. She needs some sort of reality check here.
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>>20056429
No more soul gem licking, despite the hot, shiny red button it represents. Just tactfully tell her we were not sleeping around, just drunkenly interrogating someone who idolized us.
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>>20056449
>Anon in charge of not arguing itself to death.
Yeeeeah...
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>>20056452
May I direct your attention to this anon's argument? >>20056462

We aren't nice or moral. We have a code and she currently doesn't fall under it.
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>>20056470
yeah, but some are a bit further along in development then others.

the sheltered idol is not one.
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>>20056438
Goddamn, you're just has fucking retarded as you accuse the rest of us of being.
Iori is going to die, because this is a noir setting. She's going to die, and the only difference between being with us and being with Garcia is whether she dies as soon as we turn around or in front of us.

And as for glimpsing our world, she already has. She's seen what we do up close back in the hotel, and she's already lost almost all of her friends and co-workers in a single bloody night.

Telling her to stay the fuck away from us won't do fucking jack or shit.
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>>20056429
Yes, yes it is insensitive,
Yes it is about sabotaging our friendship.
Yes it is to fucking drive her away from us.
Hello, captain fucking obvious!

How much of a retard can you be? Get it through that thick hugpillow-manhandling chucklefuck-skull of yours.

She SHOULD stay away from us because its safer and better for her. Stop ruining this quest with your goddamn waifu-shipping shit!
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>>20056481
I find that argument to be incorrect. Murderface has tried to reform from the moment she changed her name in thread one. We have tried our best, with failures, to be professional. Professionalism means that we handle this with tact.
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>>20056495
hell, I wouldn't be suprised if QB picks her up for a MG
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My vote is for simply getting up and leaving. We're on the clock, we came here to offer our apologies and tell her we've been re-assigned, not deal with a tantrum.

Just get out of the chair and leave.
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>Soul Gem licking
>mfw
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>>20056470
I do forget that sometimes, between the shit we go through, and the even the way that npcs treat us. Whilst we technically are a child, at this point anime conventions are kicking in and we're something else entirely.
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>>20056502
there's nothing professional here.

the loli is demanding things of our freetime

we're slapping the collar away

>>20056508 this
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Uh, guys, we ARE trying to avoid Iori being raped/murdered/MagicalGirled by keeping her hidden and under MG protection, right? Chances are that Garcia's battle maids can't do shit if someone else hires another MG to capture her again.
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>>20056501
This is noir
Sexual motivations are normal.
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>>20056449
>>20056475
I know, but I haven't had my second cup of coffee or supresse the vestiges of my innate optimism yet. Give me 5 minutes to work up some cynicism.

Anyways, suggestion time! We can handle this with tact. And a bit of PTSD/horrorific war stories.

[x] "I could say it was an interrogation. I'd be lying. It was however, therapy. Or drinking. Lots and lots of drinking. To try and forget. What went down in there is terrible. Very. And it'll only keep happening. There is a reason they call me murderface, as much as I like to deny it. I'm not a bodyguard. I'm not a protector. You're better off here, to be honest. Without me. Sure I can guard you and stay near, but you'll be covered in blood if I do."
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>>20056501
So why not just eat a .50 AE sandwich, then?
It'll obviously be better for everyone involved.

Iori is now supposedly safe, Mami doesn't have to look after us, Sayaka gets the vindication that we really are worthless, and Kyoko won't get her back broken for us again?

Really, your argument is saying that our death is the best outcome because it removes Chiaki from all of her friendships.
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>>20056521
While she is being demanding, we were sort of still on clock when we called her. We just up and left after killing the deamon. But the mission was and has been a continious escort of Iori for a week or so now. We at least should have told her that we were leaving her in someone else's care.
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>>20056534
I like this suggestion.
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>>20056508

This would be the most direct way of going about things. I'd go with something like this:

1.) There was no fooling around with anyone.

2.) Apologize for not calling earlier. We're still getting used to this whole being human thing.

3.) Tell Iori that Chiaki is being re-assigned by the QB corporation. The QB corporation will provide the necessary details and arrangements to smooth out the transition.

4.) Stay safe.
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>>20056537
That's the best idea I heard all thread. Let's do this, please! Oh wait. The quest would end. ABORTABORTABORT!
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>>20056534
why the fuck are we pouring our souls out in front of 50 fucking strangers?

you people are retarded
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>>20056566
There's four people here.
Four.
Not fifty.
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>>20056561
Followup Magical Idol Iori Quest? Attempt blinding optimism in a noir world?

Might be fun.
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>>20056574
Hmm. NO! Stop! I like the current MC! Don't tempt me!
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Giving into Iori's little temper tantrum is just going to encourage her to keep throwing tantrums when she doesn't get her way. She is not our girlfriend nor our boss.
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>>20056537
Fuck man, that is a really good point.

We must really suck for this to sound like a good idea. Now I'm kind of depressed, maybe we should just off ourselves. Everyone else would have alot less shit to deal with and be better of in general...Damn.
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>>20056501
Except we have been over this multiple times chucklefuck
She is fucked if she goes away. Twice this has been proven and that should be enough to reinforce that if you want her not to die horribly, become a magical girl or do something else to fuck us over royally we need to stop being a cunt ( I know this is hard but if you cannot do this then shut the fuck up ) and steer her away from worse influences and situations than she is in just by being near us which she seems to be a fucking magnet for.

Jumping up and down and trying to act like a dick won't magically make her go away, Deculture will just twist it to even worse ends the more we try
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>>20056429

I'm all with you up until the whole licking soul gems thing. I don't even mind the occasional piece fetishism during our downtimes, but giving Iori our Soul gem ever sounds like a recipe for disaster.

It's not a toy. That's our life. We toyed around with Midori's soul gem because we were literally toying with her life during the interrogation, it wouldn't be wrong to call it rape (albeit as a experimental torture technique).

In keeping with our paranoia we should only entrust our soul gem to people we trust without a doubt, right now the closest to that is Mami, maybe Kyoko though we wouldn't have any reason to fool with her. We don't currently trust Mami's judgement so I'd say she's pushing it too.

Anyway, we should avoid direct intimacy with Iori in the hope she gets the hots for Garcia or something. I'm not saying we should dump her entirely, friends are something we like, it's a safety net, but relationship with someone who only likes us because we saved them at a rough time? She was bordering on obcession, who knows what crazy controlling shit she'll do if we give her any power over us.
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>>20056556
Stop the fuck apologizing to her because she is being a goddamn brat!

What the fuck is wrong with you people?!

"Oh no, Iori is upset, lets jump and tut to her every whim, instead of trying to keep her away from our mahou-shoujo shit! WHAT COULD POSSIBLYGO WRONG?!"

Its like you can literally FEEL the /a/ waifufags and chucklefucks oozing in on this quest and being retarded with their Uguuu~~~~~~Waifushit!
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>>20056566
Who said anything about souls? That's just a summary. A life story would be everything about Matsuda's anmesia, pinky, every little thing she's screwed up, and stuff like her relationship with Mami.

What you're calling a life story would take all of half a minute to say aloud. Hardly a life story or pouring one's soul out. I'm sorry it's too verbose for you though.
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>>20056573
and the hundreds of maids waiting for sweet sweet gossip

we barely know the four we're talking to aside from their names

>>20056534 is fucking retarded.
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>>20056581
Actually she is
She hired us to protect her therefore she is our employer.

Now if 765 pro had hired us then it would be a different story but they didn't. We found that out quite clearly
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>>20056592
>we should be a dick to ALL OF OUR FRIENDS! If they get upset, THEY'RE BEING A BRAT!
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Everybody saying to dump Iori like we don't care have to remember that we (Chiaki) actually care about her more than we can admit it.
We liked her, we called her "our idol", and right there was the hand gripping and obvious jealousy tingle seeing her going along with Garcia.
Stop trying to force your opinion into the character.
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You know, if we are talking about suggestions about what Iori should do when we are gone it should be:

"Move on with your life"
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>>20056585
Welcome to the bright world of Puella Magi Madoka Magica.
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>>20056592
You Seem Upset.
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>>20056602
We aren't being a dick, she's being a brat. Apologise for not calling sooner, fine, it's understandable she'd be upset, But don't apologise for our private life or anything. That's pants on head retarded.

>>20056603
We need to set up limits. She can't just start ignoring us and talking through a third party every time we do something she doesn't agree with. She's not our mother or lover.
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>>20056601
Our mission is to protect Iori, we knew she was currently being protected by the Lovelace household. Thus job accomplished.
Matsuda is not Iori's little lapdog trained to do tricks at her command.
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>>20056592
I might agree with you if you weren't a raging faggot
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>>20056601
Not anymore. We've been reassigned this morning/late at night yesterday. Somewhere between 2300 and 0200.
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Gentlemen, we dont need to outright apologize to her, but at the same time, we should keep her relatively close to us. If we do push Iori away, theres a big chance that she'll end up in Pinky's little hands.

How about we go along the lines that after all the shit that has happened, all the crap that we did for HER, we deserve a little alcohol break. and explain the misunderstanding. That can aslo take root and become resentment from her. Best prune in quickly.
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>>20056592
So suggest that we off ourselves.
That's the safest course of action then, isn't it?

Iori is going to die whether she's with us or not because of the conventions of the genre, so it doesn't matter.

If you don't want Chiaki to simply put a bullet through her Soul Gem to end it all, then keeping Iori with us prevents a way from her dying or taking up a contract that fucks us over.
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>>20056626
>>20056626
Now this guy is using his head.
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>>20056601
She hired us to protect her, not be her lapdog. We don't have to justify anything we do on our downtime between missions.

if she wants to be a brat we can just walk out and do the Russia mission.
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>>20056592

It's not bowing to her every whim. It's being diplomatic and trying to calm the situation a bit. Apologizing for not calling earlier when she tried calling us 30 consecutive times just to make sure that we weren't a red splatter on the wall with glasses could help smooth the situation over a little bit. While she's not our keeper or someone who has any direct authority as to what we do with our free-time, we have to let her down gently or she'll snap. We don't want to gain another enemy Magical Girl in the future or provide a potential target for Pinky.

At any rate, we shouldn't get into this game that she's trying to ensnare us in. It's a bit out of our element, and we're still on a schedule here.
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101 posts before the first deculture reply? Sounds about right.

Can Green cast her illusions on other people or just herself? It would be really helpful if we could sneak ourselves into places, instead of just her.
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>>20056626
honestly, I'd rather have to kill her at this point.

100 post of nothing but waifu vs anti-waifu rage.

>>20056637
QB told her we were fine
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>>20056637
We didn't have the phone at the time, did we? We just couldn't know.
>>20056635
We've already accepted the mission.
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>4 posts from OP
>over 100 from others
GO GO GO 1000 POST THREAD
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>>20056618
She has been getting pretty fucking close to it these last how many threads? And murderface for her part seems to be getting those annoying confusing feelings given our interactions with her up until now.

Neckbeards can scream all they want about /a/ shit but this is just how it has been presented to us.
The character that we have ended up as is trying to actually be less of a cunt and less a waste of space and holy fuck there is a character that it is established A cares about her and B is trying to help her change which means we generally avoid going "hurp durp grimdark manly bullshit" every time something happens.

Yes we bend to her a bit much but surprisingly that's what people do for those they care about. Something that is obviously a foreign concept to half the people in this thread.
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>>20056641
she can do area illusions

thus how she made the room full of rapists look empty
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>>20056592
He mad
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>>20056651
No. He tried, but she hanged up every time, like the good little girl she is.
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>>20056603

If you've been reading the quest you will realise that the character does that because of our decisions. There are some things that were established at the start by Deculture, but as we made choices we've started to change. Everyone was at some point including Iori as a possible ship so that possessiveness was picked up on.

Dropping her can be worked out IC, with Kyoko we got a big case of 'people around us get hurt' which can give us a reason to suddenly clam up.

Well, this is all moot point really, as I don't want to dump Iori, just point out we are the character, deculture just rationalises our choices with the setting.

My advice if it's not too late?

Apologise curtly, she's being bratty but she's earned that this time. She's a idol normally it's nice to see she's not mindlessly loyal. If we expect her to let us be ourselves we have to expect she acts like a princess sometimes.

Briefly explain that we needed a break away from all the people you are close to. That's both true AND will imply we're close to her but needed some space.
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>>20056651
Point taken comrade. That would trully simplify things, but with the mutant cat eyeing us and Chiaki being monitored for golden gun corruption, that would be a bad idea.

And to the people saying that she is acting like a brat, no offense but that is to be expected. She is ateenage idol with a pretty face and an even prettier bank account. She may have not been born in wealth, but she sure is in now. BEing rich at that age will have some consequences.

and besides, its fucking noir. If shit went our way it wouldnt be noir
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>>20056668
Seconding this.
Nice to see someone with half a fucking brain in here
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>>20056668
It probably is too late, seeing as it's been almost an hour sinve the previous post. But I'm guessing that means Deculture has been reading through the arguments. I hope.
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>>20056668
I can agree with that.
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>>20056603


This. Even if some people don't like it, our character cares deeply for Iori. The whole idea is for us to make decisions our character would make. The occasional bit of harshness and rough edgedness should come through, but we still put up with far more of Iori's crap than we would from even Mami, and we'll accept pretty much anything from the flaxen haired pancake wench who cared about us when no one else did. That being said, Chiaki can't communicate the way she feels the way we can. She's still learning how to be a human being, so any suggestions where we reasonably discuss our emotional state are pants on head retarded, and very out of character. We should ignore this farce, and just talk straight to Iori. She's being petty because she cares about us, so she get's a pass, but if she keeps on talking through Garcia, we thank him for his hospitality and we walk out.
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>>20056675

>>20056283
was a perfectly fine response. We had just saved her life, again, and took some downtime.

If she had issues with us she could air them in private like a civilized person. Otherwise we have better things to spend our time on.
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>>20056668
I agree with your assessment.
Apologize, briefly explain, don't bow and scrape but try to stop being an utter bitch like Murderface was.
Otherwise, Sayaka is right and we really should just eat a bullet to save her the trouble of retiring us.
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>>20056668

This seems like a nice compromise.

And holy crap guys, calm down. This is getting worse than arguing for requisitions.
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>>20056683
read

>>20056668
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>>20056677
I'm surprised Deculture puts up with the constant shitstorm that is the retarded "HURR must be grimdark as possible vs waifu" debate that pops up EVERY FUCKING THREAD.

In his place I would have just said fuck you all and left it.
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>>20056668
You're a beacon of light in this dark dark world
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>>20056690
>This is getting worse than arguing for requisitions.
Please. Nothing is as bad as Requisitions at its height.
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Aaaaaaaaaah Deculture save us from ourselves.

Or at least give us something new to argue about...
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>>20056693
To be fair, the fact that people are shitstorming proves that we actually care about the quest and are invested in it. It'd be worse if no one cared and no one posted.
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>>20056699
This is fast approaching it.
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>>20056693
I agree. It's also a damn shame that the best responses are only turning up now. When it's far too late.
>>20056683
>>20056668
>>20056603
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I think the concensus at this point is to apologise, but don't be a bitch about it. Then briefly explain ourselves without giving too many details.

Can we move on already? Concession between waifu and non-waifu crowds that works is keeping her at arms length but friend zoning her.

It's a strong point that rejecting her outright will just push her into another dilemma. Let's just have her cool her shit so when we get back from Russia she isn't some crazy ass magic girl obsessed with capturing us alive and licking our soul gem for eternity.
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>>20056699
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>>20056702
It isn't a matter of caring it is the matter of how much can these fucking sperglords argue the one point?

I know I am on tg and everything but this is worse than edition wars and with less basis

It is like listening to the 10 year olds down at GW argue whose army is cooler because of what is written in their codex
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"Iori, let's get some things straight. I like you. And I'm fairly sure you like me too, at least up until that misunderstanding, but I'll clear that up later. Liking someone doesn't mean you should get together. If anything, I want to avoid getting together with you because associating with me longer than necessary means one of two things. One. You die. My work is dangerous. Two. You get recruited to become a magical girl too. Which is worse yet, trust me on that one. Besides you being my principal, I would hate to see either happen. Neither of us can afford getting close to each other, for your own sake. I'm really sorry, it's just better this way. As for the misunderstanding, I was trying to shut the bitch up, but it backfired. Some higher power hates my luck."
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>>20056693
40k fags don't understand that noir does not equal grimdark
Animu fags don't understand skirt chasing in noir (although common) is dangerous
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>>20056705
The consensus at this point is moot since Deculture probably started writing long ago.
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>>20056712
GOTTFUCKINGDAMMIT WE ARE NOT GETTING THAT PIECE OF SHIT!
There are more important things to use Requisitions on than that hunk of scrap metal!
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>>20056716
Well said, Alexi. Well said.
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>>20056677
honestly, he should only take the first ~10 non-retarded replies(no, "stick in her pooper")

waiting an hour between post just lets the shitstorm power up.

>>20056705
either she talks to us herself, preferably in private, or we should walk.

We don't have to take this passive aggressive crap from her, we can offload her to some other unit. It's US that is protecting her, at our willing not hers. We just finished the "unlimited grief seeds forever" mission.
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generally, I'm against DM railroading, but in this case I kind of want it.

I would like Deculture to railroad us right past all of this argument rage-shitstorm bullshit that comes up every time we need to make a decision.

I would not mind getting on with it rather than having a thread filled up with pointless bullshit.
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>>20056722
Honestly I don't see a whole lot of skirt chasing.
I see a character trying to be a better person and not offhand mentally ruining a stupid girl with a stupider crush.

There are bits and they are funny but nothing to the degree that some people are claiming
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>>20056739
half the reason people want to be nice to the loli is so they can read about her masturbating and calling our names from our bed again.
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>>20056735
NO RAILROADING
That would create rage of world ending proportion!
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>>20056716

I still think this is a bit too reasonable for Murderface. Yeah, fair enough that her character is shaped by what we want to do, but we do still need to balance that with what makes sense with previous incarnations. Just because everyone in the thread says "stick it in her pooper" doesn't mean it's in character. We should try and be reasonable, but our plan to stick her with Garcia has backfired somewhat since we feel a bit jealous, so being curt right now makes sense.
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>>20056739
Most of the skirt chasing is TOWARDS Murderface, which is then ignored. As proper for Noir, dames be crazy
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>>20056730

Deculture usually nabs a rough concensus within the first fifteen or so replies. He then posts about 25 minutes later.

That it's taken this long means he's either eating, reading everything, or our suggestions have become the shitstorm and the resulting post is gonna be a super whammy.

Gentlemen. Prepare for the worst. Like Garcia Lovelace taking umbrage at our speach to Iori and having head Maid sort out our shit for us on the front lawn.
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>>20056757
And what evidence do you have to back that claim up?
Because honestly I see none, I see someone pushing what he thinks is the reason onto everyone who has a differing opinion to himself.
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>>20056757
Wow, with your amazing psychic power to know what people are thinking merely by reading words on the internet, how have you not taken over a small country yet?
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Everyone, summon Deculture!
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>>20056760
if fourteen 50 MT bombs suddenly exploded right on top of us...

I would just laugh.

>>20056773
WITH ALL OUR CUTES COMBINED
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Is Midori a reference to any particular show, or an OC? I haven't gone through the extended Madoka stuff yet.
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>>20056767
Well there is the part of us that tries to kill our emotions. Even if we are jealous we desperately cling to reason to get through our job.
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>>20056784
I would say we deserved it for having continual shitstorms over trivial things.
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Nyan nyan nyan nihao nyan!
Gorgeous!
Delicious!
DECULTURE!!
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>>20056773
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>>20056716
>"I tried to punish the interrogated for interrupting my call but she ended up liking it."
I like this explanation.
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>>20056786
I think she is an OC
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>>20056402 >>20056305 >>20056283 >>20056283

You take your time chewing and swallowing the last surviving pancake of your once-tall tower of soft, fluffy, syrup-soaked heaven. You have murdered each and every one that had come before it with the stark efficiency and precision that has become expected of you - and it's with a rare sense of bliss that you savor the very last bite, letting its memory linger on your tongue before you let it slide down your throat. Your eyes closing momentarily as you let the warmth blossom from your stomach.

You open your eyes after a moment, letting out a wistful sigh.

"Would...you like some more, Matsuda-san?" Garcia is the first to speak, and he must have deduced your answer from the look on your face as he nods at Fabiola. She immediately seems to materialize beside you, replacing your empty plate with one endowed with a taller pile. You don't even wait for Fabiola to retract her hand before you start again. Devouring pancakes like no one's business.

But before you stick the neatly-sliced cut of pancake into your mouth, it's then that you manage to stop yourself - and with no small amount of self-control, you place your fork down on the plate as you look at the couple sitting across from you. Garcia 's eyes widen as he sees your glare - but it's mostly Iori you're looking at, who is trying to return it with a good amount of embarrassment and indignation.

You're not a social person. That you understand yourself.

But you think you know how to handle this.
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>>20056757
NO! Bad anon! No more shitstorm causing! Bad!
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>>20056773
WE NEED MORE SCOTTY
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>>20056773
>>20056784
Cute things, you say?
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>>20056801

"I apologize."

You say this. Not murmuring, not mumbling, not grumbling. You say it loudly and clearly enough so that it carries to the other end of the table, eliminating any chance of confusion on Iori's part. You're also momentarily surprised at how rough your voice is, but that's neither here nor there.

Iori blinks at this, but does not look away.

"I apologize for not calling right away." You place your knife down beside your plate, the serrated edge still glistening with syrup. "A mistake on my part. It's only standard procedure that I do so, in order to check on your safety after I left you in their care. I recognize my failing and will be sure to correct it."

"W-well, I don't think you really need to, Matsuda-san, you had pressing issues to deal with--" Garcia seems to blurt out, but Iori shushes him. He hastily apologizes in a whisper, and you wonder just how close they've become in the short time they've been together. "Anyway, Matsuda-san, it was just that--"

"But that is all I am going to apologize for." You cut Garcia off as you continue. "I am sure Minase Iori-san is aware of my drinking habits. It's my way of...unwinding, especially after work. I will not make excuses for it, and only admit that it is a vice I partake in. I will also not apologize for it, nor will I apologize for her hearing a colleague's drunken antics. I do not believe that qualifies as fooling around - but even if it does, why would she care? Why would my client care about how I spend my free time?"

Iori's eyes widen at this, seemingly stunned into silence, before turning away, seemingly angry, embarrassed and close to tears all at once.
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>>20056808
DON'T YOU START

>>20056801
I claim a small part in his summoning
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>>20056801
>But you think you know how to handle this.
Oh god, we're about to start hurling smoke grenades like a deranged pitching machine, aren't we?
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>>20056791
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh DECULTURE R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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>>20056810
Yes finally some progress. Thank you Deculture
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>>20056814
...

why don't we have a Nazi magic girl?

Deculture, WORK ON IT STAT. Misaka must have a German rival!
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>>20056810
Oh dear, this could go either way.

Awaiting third post on the edge of my seat.
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>>20056735

To be fair, it only happens with decisions that are clearly setting the tone for a relationship or a key encounter. The other arguments are never ending, really all I want is something more middle of the road. Pursuing a harem will be the death of this quest, same could be said for unnecessarily cruel torture and decisions.

I want Noir investigations into the goings on in our Magic Girl universe, I want Noir tone to our Magic Girl relationships. I want Magic Girl Noir.

And I guess while I'm at it a slice of 40k is like the cherry on top, not everyone wants the cherry but that's just how shit is and we've got to take it or leave it as we want. Personally I think like the cherry on top it should just be a bit of garnish, not the focus. I like references but don't like when those references come and fight each other in place of Magic Girl duels.
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>But you think you know how to handle this.

Chiaki 'Murderface' Matsuda?

Yep, that just made my night.
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>>20056818
No I think we would generally use out shield to time stop and walk away.

Smoke grenades are a limited resource and you have to fiddle with the pulling the pin etc. overall it is too much work
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>>20056820
>Ph'nglui mglw'nafh DECULTURE 4CHAN wgah'nagl fhtagn
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>>20056829
>another girl for the thread to fight about

no thank you
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>>20056829
>misaka in an arms race with a kraut

OH HELL NO! THE CITY WOULD BE FLATTENED!
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>>20056810


"Matsuda-san, um, I don't think--" Garcia tries again, now clearly distressed as Iori buries her face into her hands. You frown slightly at this, but you can't step back now. Doing so would render everything else you've said moot. There has to be a line set, right now, and while it's regrettable, it has to be done now.

"Garcia-san. Please tell Minase Iori that I will be her friend if she wants me to. But she is my client first and foremost, and our relationship is a professional one." You pointedly ignore how Iori is now slumping forward, sobbing into her hands - and it's then that you feel the strangest compulsion to do someting about it. You're not too sure what you would do, but you're pretty sure it involves hugging.

Off to your side side, Fabiola clears her throat.

[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.
[]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.
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>>20056801
>>20056810
>120 posts of bickering summed up into actual conclusion
Deculture, you have my deepest respect.
I wish I had a GM like you are.
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>>20056829
We ae heading to Siberia for testing
It wouldn't be beyond reasonable to run into a nazi puella magi
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>>20056855
[x]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.

I'm sorry that I didn't realise I meant that much to you.
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>>20056855

[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

That'll do Deculture. That'll do.
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>>20056837
This guy is right
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>>20056810
I.. I like this solution.
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>>20056855
>[x]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.
Promise to bring souveniers.
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>>20056855
Apologize. But not for what we just said, apologize for last night.

No need to ruin a friendship.
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Awwww. As one of the poeple in favour of telling Iori off a bit, I now feel like such a dick.
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>>20056853
but b-but

Think of all the wondrous toy Misaka would make to one up her German rival!

WE NEED THEM.
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>>20056829

Hear hear! I agree - At the Siberian R&D, lies a Nazi German Magial Girl Techpriest-rival for Misaka, and another Harem member for us.
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>>20056855
Apologise.
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>>20056855
[x]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

"If you need me, I'll be in Siberia."
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>>20056855
>[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.
Just tell her about the Siberian mission, grab some food for Midori, and leave.
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>>20056855
[x]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.

This can only end poorly for us if we don't do SOMETHING to calm her down.
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>>20056858
>Siberia
>Nazi
you mean Soviet?
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>>20056879
>another Harem member for us.
Dear god no, the current amount is bad enough for arguing.
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>>20056855
We're sorry Iori.

Take good care of her Garcia.
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>>20056855
>[]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.

If she thinks we are alienating her, things can go south pretty bloody quickly. Especially with a teenage idol that had some/plenty of traumatic experiences crammed in a short span of time.
Might be best to do some damage control
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>>20056855
>[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

We've got cold places to go to.
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>>20056855
Say what we have to and leave.
Then message her an apology while we are in the car
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>>20056855

[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

going to her now would be the complete opposite of what we just did. Talk about mixed signals
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>>20056855
>pancakes and leave
we already apologized.
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>>20056888
Maybe the Nazi won in this world?
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>>20056855
[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

Also, say something to the effect of Garcia taking good care of her or something.
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>>20056855

>[]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.

NO! We do not whisper any apologies! As we said, a line must be drawn.

If we say anything to Iori, then it should be "If you have anything to confess then do so now, you might not get another chance" and "Move on with your life."
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>>20056855
[x]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.

We still need to fill her in on us leaving, don't we?
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>>20056855

[x]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.

As gently as we can. Although I realize that this is attempting to stop an incoming train with a feather.
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>>20056894
Yeah seconding that,
Otherwise we will come back to meguca Iori who wished for something stupid like us loving her and that will be a problem
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>>20056855
[X]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

We already apologised. any more invalidates what we just said.
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rolled 77 = 77

[]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.

BUT DON"T FORGET PANCAKES!!
We promised our new callidus to pick her up something, so lets get like 20 lbs of pancakes to go!
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>>20056855
[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

maybe you shouldn't have thought talking to us through a 3rd party like a bitch would bring us to heel.

I'd been much more responsive if she'd talked to us herself.
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>>20056860
I vote for this. Semi ambigious and we didn't want the staff to know.
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>[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

Faffing around with more apologies is only going to make things confused and worse.

Also relationship talk later, feed the driver now.
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>>20056855
[]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.
this one seems out of place now.
Let's see:

[x]"I'm sorry Minase, you can't be both my client and my friend. That's the kind of things that gets people killed.
Now, if you'll excuse me I have to leave for Siberia now".
Take the pancakes and leave.
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>>20056921
No she hasn't earnt pancakes yet.

We take her waffles or something but we keep our pancake pile for ourself.

Although I suppose if we say we are taking her some as well then we could take more.
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Hello.

I am the unofficial writefag for MGNQ.

In light of the recent updates and subsequent writefaggotry, and the brevity of the next story, I will field any queried, death threats, adulations and offers of sex/violence. Please direct all forms of rage at me. I feed off your anger and tears.
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>>20056860
^
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>Iori's face when
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>>20056855
[x]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.


Give Iori time to let everything sink in and deal with it, apologizing again will now only hurt her more.

Also I think that one should never apologize for being in love or not in love with someone.

Still I`m somehow in awe how Deculture managed to deal with this whole duscussion/raging with both parties being happy with it.
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>>20056855
[x]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.
As much as it might be sending mixed signals, I don't want to come back from Siberia with Iori having become a Magical Girl.
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>>20056894
going over for hug and kisses now completely invalidates everything thing we just said. It's also the largest pile of mixed spaghetti signals we're ever send in this quest.
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>>20056855
>[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.
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>>20056855
This >>20056860
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>>20056939
Brotip: our choice here won't do anything about the inevitability of that scenario
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>>20056855

[x]Take the pancakes and peel the hell out of there.
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>>20056933
Are you that guy on twitter?

maybe i should read those
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>>20056855

i dare not choose because i'm an indecisive cunt but besides that i don't think snatching food in this situation would be a good idea.
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>>20056962
fucking this

get out while the getting is good with some pancakes
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>>20056964
But isn't that really the only given? We love pancakes, and we promised Green we'd get her something.
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[]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

We're all in now. Better not to toy with her, we could have been more subtle but eloquent isn't our style. Deculture got the tone of the argument right and satisfied our ultimate decision.

Let's go to Namek.
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[x]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

We did good. This is the best that could be done. Line drawn. Garcia can move in. No mixed signals.

>>20056879
Die.
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>>20056945
True, but I did not say that we need to be completely close in saying that.
Just a small whisper, no hugs, no plaintative apologies.

"Iori, I sorry for what I said. I trully do, but if you get involved any deeper you'll end up dead. Or worse. Frankly I dont want that to happen to anyone, especially not you"

"I know I cant convince you, but at least try to understand"

Then leave. Granted I only recommend this because Id rather not leave a possiblity of Iori turning to a meguca, which is a step into turning into Pinky's gold wielders
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>>20056963

I have a twitter account, yes, but I don't manage the MGNQ one.
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[]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.
Try and sort things out without Garcia interjecting. Actually ASK Iori what is wrong, about time they had a talk and sorted things out properly.
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[] Whisper apologies

also "You're all better off without me..."
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>[x]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

Now, if we're done with the drama, we have bears to eat and pancakes to hunt.
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>>20056855
[X]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

"By the way, I'm leaving to Siberia. If you want to add something, it's your last chance."
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[x]Say what you have to say and leave. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.

Hard truth to hear for Iori, but Chiaki is a Magical Girl before being a bodyguard. And this passive-agressive stuff is not cute at all, we're the one who were nearly killed by a bloodthirster just yesterday.
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>>20056988
We have a Nazi to befriend while hunting in the wastes of snowland!

I don't not want the Nazi as a harem member. Make her like the cock a lot or think people are a waste of science time. I just want Misaka to have a tech rival.

the Nazi also teases her about her "machine spirits."
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Chiaki only needs one dame in her life anyway.
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>>20056855
>[x]Say what you have to say and leave. Take the pancakes with you. You're on the clock. You'll sort this out when you get back.
"Magical girls don't have lives for people to be a part of."

Thank Garcia, ask what maidlady wants, and let's get out of this goddamn oversized piggybank of a mansion
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>>20057019

Faust Waifu is only Waifu
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>>20057019
I can safely say that that is not the Dame I'm chasing the skirt of.
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>>20057018
Why did you quote that post?
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>>20057036
Of course, Anon. We're the dame being skirtchased.
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>>20057019
Yeah Mami is the only one for chiaki.
Heavenly pancakes and figure, she also doesn't complain about our drinking as much
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>>20057038
wrong one, meant to do >>20056991
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Wrong. Chiaki needs every girl.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
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>>20057044
Well then we had better make this skirt just as deadly as it can be. This being Noir and all, there's simply no choice to be had.
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Why the hell do we keep trying to ditch people who want to be our friends, friends are assets, especially friends who are rich and want to fingerbang you.

[] whisper sweet nothings into her ear.
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>>20057045
That's not the Mami we know. Mami actually complains the most about our drinking habits. So much that even Kyoko lies to her about drinking.
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>>20057019

i think of pinky as a femme fatale,

she has entranced us with that golden gun and it in turn is leading us and everyone with golden weapons to kill each other and innocent bystanders.
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>>20057065
In addition, Mami is the only one so far who has betrayed us.
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>>20057030
>>20057036
>No love for Kriemhild Gretchen
anon is sad
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[x] Apologize.
Also, we haven't said anything about us going to Siberia... and she not coming.
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>>20057065
Actually she has only complained about it when we got both Misaka and Kyoko drunk as well.

She accepts that Chiaki is a lost cause and just makes sure we occasionally have food to go with our booze. She probably made the whiskey pancakes in the first place in the hopes it would lead us to drink less when we asked about it
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>>20057059
Because people are cowards who won't work to become a better human being, and since they won't take that effort, won't at least do everyone a favor and put a bullet through our Soul Gem.
Instead they drink alcohol, eat painkillers, and push everyone away and make other people's lives miserable.
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>>20056853
It would be GLORIOUS. Pink might be distracted for a while too.

>>20056855
I... I can't decide... we can soften the blow a little bit. something about how we do care or we would've have just dumped her our doorstep. Mess up the apology basically, we're terrible at this.

[x]Walk over to Iori and whisper your apology before leaving.
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Oh hey, this is on now. A busy thread, I see.
Also, Kirino has been Deculture approved, so I no longer have even the slightest inclination to stop. Feel free to filter me, though.

>>20057045
Mami is married to the bodyguard from the afterthread writefagging. Just so you know.
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>>20057002

I'm voting for either we whisper "You're better off without me"

or Walking out, no pancakes, just a quick thank you to Garcia for his hospitality and a mention of seeing them both after we get back from Siberia.
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>>20057099
Gents, it's official. We're bigger than Strike Witches Quest.
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>>20057099

>what

does this have something to do with the 4chan add-on which i don't use?
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>>20057099
I think It was good
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>>20057107
That non canon writefag is now canon?
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>>20057089
Misaka build them and Kyoko doesn't need us to encourage her to drink.
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>>20057107
>Mami
>Married

Nooope. Non-canon, nope.
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>>20057107
Done.
>>20057113
Yes. 4chanX. There are a bunch of versions, I use this one.
http://mayhemydg.github.com/4chan-x/
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>>20057107
Mom allowed me to be a little shit so suck It up.

That's how you sound.

And this is your first post in this thread.
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>>20057107
I ignore that and substitute my own reality.
Also I didn't see anything that said she is married to him just that he loves her
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>>20057107
when were you "approved"?
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>>20057107
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>>20057113
the addons are pretty damned useful
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>>20057113
4chan X does that, among several other handy features. You should try it.

>>20057117
>>20057133
I heard he had Deculture's blessing, and thought that made it canon. Guess I may be wrong.

>>20057134
Twitter.

>>20057135
Why, thanks. I agree.
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>>20057117
>>20057126
Canon. He was always canon. Maybe you should listen to what Deculture says.
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rolled 66 = 66

>>20057134
Damn Deculture told him so on Twitter. I don't like it either but he does.
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>>20057126
If Deculture didn't write it, with his Tripcode on, then it doesn't count as canon. And it probably shouldn't be in the thread.

The after story WFing is why I installed 4chanx - to filter it out.
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>>20057107

I suppose Deculture has given you his approval?
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>>20056881 >>20056868 >>20056861

You wipe your lips with your makeshift linen bib, before undoing the knot behind your neck and placing it down on the table, beside the plate of nigh-untouched pancakes. It's a pitiful sight, but clearly not as pitiful as you right now. Still, you have to continue. You have to finish what you've started. Stopping here would only be an insult to you and everyone involved.

You go on to explain in the same tone of voice that you came here for the express reason of notifying Minase Iori, your current client, that you are to attend to something important overseas. You'll be gone for a few days, but you'll be back within the week. In the meantime, Sayaka, Iori and Mami will take your place in rotating shifts.

Iori doesn't seem to respond or react to this, merely continuing to cry into her hands - until Garcia himself hands her an expensive-looking handkerchief with a family seal embroidered in the corner. She brokenly murmurs her thanks, and presses the handkerchief to her face as her shoulders continue to tremble, muffling her sobs.

"I...I see. Where would you be going, then, Matsuda-san? And...c-can we contact you if we need to?" Garcia seems to be taking up the other end of the conversation now, and you're relieved that at least one of you has the common sense to. You nod and reply in the affirmative, at least to the last part. As for where - you mention that it's classified, and that you'll be leaving in less than four hours from now.

"Alright, Matsuda-san. I understand." The blonde young man looks at you, then at Iori. "Does Iori-san need to relocate? If not, then she can stay here until you get back." He turns back to you, smiling rather awkwardly, a sort of appeal in his face that he wants to vocalize but is too polite to.

[1/2]
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>>20057148
Aww fuck, got my dice on from Mad Scientist Quest.
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>>20057145
...Well shit, seriously? She's 15 though? No way.
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>>20057107
You being Decuture approved is hardly new. He was telling us off yesterday I think, just people didn't notice.
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>>20057143
could you link it then?
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>>20057145
Forgive me if I find that hard to believe. Can you link where Deculture says that, Specifically? Might be important if you are correct.
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>>20057152
>with his Tripcode on
>Deculture
>tripcode
uh
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>>20057132
You can filter it easily enough and honestly not that many people are put out by it that you need to derail things any further.

Deculture saying it was ok is his opinion same as yours is to complain about how much you hate it
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Well, folks, you've made you decision.

Don't come running to me when it turns out Iori ends up the right hand of Faust and the second to last boss. You can't possibly think she's going to just get written out of the story here, right?

We told her about staying away from white cats offering wishes. We said nothing about friendly pink haired girls who claim to be our friend's. Who tell her that we only worry about her because we're afraid she'll get hurt. Who say that if maybe she had some power, too, she could take care of herself, and we wouldn't have to worry about her safety. Who tell her that all she has to do is take the offered gem stone, and she can help us and fight at her side...
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>>20057169
I could, but I'm a lazy SOB. Look for it yourself. I think it was in the thread where the writefaggotry emerged the first time. That or on Twitter.

OI! AVATARFAG! You've got your shit better in order than I do. Link them, please.
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>>20057180

Name, Tripfagging, whatever.

I'm drunk and I don't care about making sense.
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>>20057187
We get to kill her?

I feel even better now.
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>>20057187
>/tg/
>having good ideas ever
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>>20057187
We told Iori and everyone else (aside from Midori) about the golden weapons and Pinky.

And it was pretty much a given that Iori is going to become a magical girl and either turn into a witch or fall into Pinky's hands. This is a noir, bad shit is going to happen no matter what choice we make.

That said, we really need to inform Midori about the golden weapons and Pinky. Midori knows of Pinky from her interactions with Pinky but she doesn't know everything. And if she's going to be our assistant she needs to know.
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>>20057143
so, can I start dumping porn then?

I'm not doing it for the attention I s-swear.
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>>20057157
"You're all better off without me..."

c'mon, go for the sympathetic asshole exit.
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>>20057187
At least its closure.
Now we dont need to worry about trying to please her.
However it is risky leaving someone that nows your habits to possibly become the enemy's new goon. And Pinky will more than likely try to take advantage of any of Chiaki's residual emotions to Iori.
But it has been decided. And killing her will make things much more simplier
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>>20057212
We'll, we have the whole trip in Russia to do so.
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>>20057217
No. You are doing it, because you are a fag that wants this thread to die. Fun is poison to you, isn't it?
>>20057212
Agreed.
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>>20057222

This.
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>>20057187
Shit is going to hit the fan either way. Just stop complaining and enjoy the ride. Damn.
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>>20057212
Assuming we fly by plane to the frozen north, that should give plenty of time to fill Midori in, right? Plane flights take a while.

Otherwise, Chiaki could be telling her about it in the car on the way to picking up Misaka.

Pat Misaka on head, tell he she is best girl, yes?
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>>20057194
I must confess, I don't recall that which you are referring to. This being the case, I am unable to assist you. My apologies.

>>20057166
https://twitter.com/magicalgirlnoir/status/228612485983371265
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maybe Iori will become a magical girl just to get Chiaki's attention.
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Honestly, I like how everyone ignores Matsuda's feelings about this.

>- and it's then that you feel the strangest compulsion to do someting about it. You're not too sure what you would do, but you're pretty sure it involves hugging.

You can be harsh and gentle at the same time, we've done it before.

We can tell her off, but it wasn't very tactful of us at all. And there's the fact that Matsuda doesn't WANT to lose the small amount of friends she's made.

I wish that people read the posts carefully before jumping to make decisions.

We do have control of Matsuda, but you have to remember that she also has thoughts of her own. Deculture gives us hints on what to do when we see her thoughts.
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I was in favour of pushing Iori away a bit, and now, when we get back, i'll be in favour of trying to chase her a bit. This is noir, the romance should be complicated and not all our own way. Yes, it is playing with both Chiaki and Iori's emotions, not to mention Midori's now, but that's what the get for hopping aboard the Murderface bus.
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I hope at some point we go to Thailand.
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>>20057187
Funnily enough the decision seemed to be apologize to her but I don't feel like recounting.

It is what I expect thanks to the chucklefucks in here and it is what we deserve for pushing the overly emotional obsessive girl this far because HURR MUST BE STUPID GRIMDERP.
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No more Idol bedwarmer or chances at soft bottoms for Chiaki. Maybe we can get Midori to pretend to be Iori or something.
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>>20057253
The current prediction was that Iori was either going to wish to make Matsuda happy or that Matsuda would love her. Either way, the wish ends up twisted and causes despair. Cue witch/Pinky.
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>>20057254
It is what the majority wants, so we cant really argue with that. Trust in deculture, he'll find a way to piece it all together
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>>20057254
I believe It was something like "Oh god what do I do now I think I need to implement hugs somewhere Oh god I'm taking those pancakes home"
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>>20057143
>>20057245
I'm disgusted at you lying through your teeth. Maybe I should filter you.
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>>20057239
We'll have to more then just pats.

She did just save our bacon for the second time this quest. Mecha-Bear Hunting Party. Midori can carry our guns around.

>>20057254
I thought that was more of how he wanted to vote/things to go. Without you know, actually railroading it.
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>>20057245

>follow link to twitter

>mfw the Chiaki & Misaka image I photoshopped is the background.

heheh. Cool.
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>>20057254
Speaking of hints, there was this one in the previous thread:

>
"Really...? You're alright?" Iori whispers, before sobbing all over again. "I'm...I'm glad. Thank..thank you for saving me again, Chiaki-san. A-and Takane-chan, and Chihaya-chan, too. Thank you s-so much." She's crying, again, and you hear what sounds like Garcia trying to calm her down.
>Your Soul Gem sparks slightly in its whiskey bath.
>"Garcia is with you?" You manage to ask.

Which nobody commented on. Something's happening, and I wish we were looking at a mirror when it was.
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>>20057277
It's a shame the majority is stupid.
>Trust in deculture
Quick, someone edit that Faith in Planefag pic.
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>>20057157

You respond to the affirmative. You were just about to suggest that - after thanking him for providing Iori and the squad of Eversors a safe place to sleep in during the events that had happened. The three girls that you've mentioned will be in fact dropping by here to check up on Iori from time to time, and escort her whenever necessary.

Garcia's face brightens visibly at this. "A-ah. Thanks, Matsuda-san. I'll...I'll make sure that Iori is safe here until you get back."

You supress a smirk as you give him a curt nod. Yes, of course Iori will be safe. With the Head Maid, Fabiola, and any one of your fellow Magical Girls, Iori will in fact be the safest Principal in the history of Principals under the protection of the Officio. No one will be able to lay a hand on her - barring Garcia himself, of course, should he choose to.

YOu find yourself somewhat irritated at that thought, before you banish it completely. You stand up and prepare to leave, but not before taking the plate full of pancakes with you.

"I'll have someone bring the plate back here. Is that alright?" You glance at Fabiola, and then at Garcia. Taking care not to set eyes at Iori.

Don't look. She's alright. Just don't look.

[2/3]
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>>20057277
I wish the majority would fucking read the posts.

Bad decisions are a part of the story, but shit I wish people didn't think "its apart of our character" when the post says the direct opposite.

The posts also have a way of saying "you've made a stupid decision, you fucking idiots". This one felt like one of those posts.
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>>20057266
Except that is just stupid and not what a person would do while trying to avoid hurting a friend.

Because remember Iori became chiaki's friend because she felt sorry for her and now she has lost her best friend, three other good friends and the girl she was in love with in short succession

Honestly we have just asked for a skullfucking that we richly deserve and will get
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>>20057288
Which bit was that, exactly?
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>>20057295

its been on his channel since he created it, i could be off by a day or 2.
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>>20057301
>It's a shame the majority don't want to do what I like.
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>>20057187

Right now we're roughly stuck between feeding Iori's obsession or distancing ourselves from it and calling it professionalism. We've not broken any ties but we've drawn a clear line.

Now I agree this will probably come with consquences, but there are so many arguments for what could set off Iori on the magic girl train that really we'd hear this kind of bitching no matter the choice. If we reciprocated her love she might chose to try and fight along side us, if we push her away because of professionalism she might decide that becoming meguca lets her form a real relationship, not one of a client.

Finally, if we completely cut her off, she might become a meguca out of spite.

All roads could lead to meguca. All of them, you are a fool if you think otherwise. We just make the decision we think fits, right now I don't want to feed Iori's obsession, Garcia is better not because it's safer but he's genuinely a better guy who likes her. We have other people we are chasing. Not Iori.
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>>20057270
>HURR MUST BE STUPID GRIMDERP.
To be fair It's either that or HURR WAIFUS AND PETTING

I prefer the first option
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>>20057307

[3/3]

"Y-yes, that should be alright, Matsuda-san. Don't worry about it. Enjoy the pancakes." The blonde young man says hurriedly. "Please take care wherever you're going."

You say that you'll do your best, and it's then that you say your goodbyes, giving the Master of the House a curt bow before turning on your heel and walking the direction from whence you came. You hear Fabiola hurriedly excusing herself before following you.

"That...was not how I would have handled it, Chiaki." Fabiola says as she catches up to you. "I think you should recognize what she feels for you, instead of pretending that there's nothing there."

How do you respond?
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>>20057301
You aren't the shining beacon of intelligence you believe to be either.
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>>20057143

I have no idea who you are, but please confirm those rumors. I will keep Mami's marital status tight-lipped until Decultire reveals it.

For those of you who figured it out, congrats and keep your mouths shut.

I am Deculture-approved. That is all I will say.
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>stick our necks for Iori for the past 22 threads
>'Pinky may contact Iori! Let's kill her!'
I respect you and all, /tg/, but sometimes...

Also, the threads aren't numbered right on sup/tg/
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>>20057254

Chiaki isn't the cold hearted professional that she's made out to be. She's struggled with that in the past, especially when it comes to relations with other people. She's best when she's in her element and needs to ventilate some annoying bastard, but once she's out of the office, it's back to being annoyingly emotional for her.

One gets the feeling that despite her best wishes, she DOES like having friends. She just doesn't really know what to do from there. You know, because she's, like, 14? How old are we, anyway? None of us seem to go to school, but we also can drive with no one questioning but are underage when it comes to barkeepers. Hmm... seems like twitter question.
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>>20057323
I'm not dealing with her childish antics. If she talks to be herself maybe things will go better.
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>>20057323

It's safer that way.

Much safer...
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>barring Garcia himself, of course, should he choose to.
Ohboy,herewego.jpg
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>>20057327
...Fucking seriously? God damn.
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>>20057350
Who the fuck even cares. Just don't read it.
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>>20057323
But that will make her a bigger target
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>>20057315

Ah. I just don't twitter, so I didn't know. Still cool.
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>>20057323
I don't care about that. It can't and it shouldn't happen. Her current course leads to death. I can just hope that I have forced her onto a better one. Then again, I can't have nice things.
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>>20057323
"Being in love with someone in my profession is a one-way express ticket to pain, suffering and general anguish. I need to make her realise i'm not a romantic prospect as quickly as possible, before she *really* gets hurt."
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>>20057341
*me

>>20057328
we complained about it last thead

>>20057327
No, I'm Deculture-approved. The final battle get a choice between Godzilla or the Nazi Magic girl as an ally.

Picking the Nazi gets you a happy threeway scene with Misaka and her.
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>>20057323
Well thanks for the timely advice Fabiola. It's not like I can just go back and say that this is hurting me just as much can I? No. This is the best way. She can't be near me. It's just not worth it.

Do me a favor, and shoot anyone with black eyes who gets near her. That includes myself.
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There is no need for such hatred gentlemen, it will gain us nothing and only serve to distract us from decultures posts.

>>20057323
But at least she will be safe from the dangers i could bring. that is more than enough
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>>20057323
Take her advice and fix this before we come back to gold crazy meguca Iori.

Get Fabiola to take her somewhere private so we can do so
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>>20057323
"I am in a quest thread."
Because you guys srsly.
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>>20057386
sadly, we have shit to do and our lives to save.

No time for loli dames.
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>>20057371
>>20057375
>>20057384
You honestly believe she is any safer without us?

Fullretard.jpg
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>>20057323
Then what I should I have done?
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>>20057323
"There's plenty there, but how is that relevant when all that would do is either get her killed or worse, recruited? You should know as well as I do you cannot always afford to do the things you want. Now if you're done lecturing me, I have pancakes to murder. With my face. (Hmm, I wonder if that's why everyone calls me murderface)"
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Yeah well, anyone I actually like ends up getting fucked up by me, so ignoring actually sounds like the right thing to do.
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>>20057407
This one.
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>>20057323
"Every bit of advice girls learn growing up tells them not to hook up with alcoholic, emotionally crippled hired killer-men. Why the flying fuck is it suddenly considered okay if it's a woman?"

"She needs to be with someone normal. Like your little master."
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>>20057405
Its what Chiaki will say/delude herself with in character since her social skill are completely nill.
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>>20057328
WE KNOW.

>>20057323
"And how should i do that, Actual Maid? Should I encourage her to stay near my self-destruction? Should i foster her dependency on me? Should i ask her to have her heart and soul ripped out too, so we can be together forever like the sappy goddamn movies?"

Deculture! Your hints, they wound me, but i feel that this is the best course... D:
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>>20057425
But then again I could be wrong.
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>>20057307
>No one will be able to lay a hand on her - barring Garcia himself, of course, should he choose to.
OK, this part just got me an offer to join the Angry Marines.
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>>20057323
"Iori deserves a normal life. One that I can't provide. As painful as it is for her, it is better this way."

>>20057405
Iori's going to die/become a magical girl no matter what we do, may as well try to get her out of the danger zone. We'll fail of course, but that's noir for you.
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I'm out now guys, at least try to salvage the relationship we have with the maid. We want that owed favor to come willingly.
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>>20057323
I don't exactly have much experience dealing with people.
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>>20057399
We have more than enough time to sort out a little problem before it becomes a massive one.

Because we know both in character and out that this is leading to a massive fuck up that some people seem to be going for because they don't like how things have gone
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>>20057379

Yep, this. Maybe with a bit of shouting for emphasis.
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>>20057433
this, the maid is cool.
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>>20057323
"She's got a future, I don't. None of us Magical Girls do. I don't want to see her get dragged down with me."
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>>20057323

I think there was an old saying relevant here. and to paraphrase it in context; "At least the bottle doesn't fucking talk back to me."
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>>20057323

we are in no condition to respond to those kind of feelings, we have a whole load of crazy weapon wielding people out there who would just as easy go after her to get to us.

we actually sort of like Iori but the dangers that come with being... us, are something we want to keep her away from as far as we can.

we don't have many friends in this forsaken world and every one of them is dear to us in some way.
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>>20057323
Damn you and your timely advices. Actually, no damning. Fuck all of this. Fuck my job, fuck my life, fuck the little girl for appearing in my life, fuck me for being jealous and fuck you for not shooting me right now.

>call Midori.
>get the fuck out of there
>getting shitfaced seems like a good idea
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>>20057323
'Explain to me what I have to offer her. I am an alcholic, pill-swigging, contract bound magical girl whose only real talent is in the murder and destruction of other living beings. On top of that, I have issues with... mental stability, and occassionally wake up having no idea where I am, who I am, or even what my name is. I don't even know what my real name is any more. My current one is just something I came up with out of a drunken, pill-laden haze, although I will admit it is much better than Murderface, which is apparently what I came up with last time. Which, by the way, I can't remember either. Now please explain to me what I have to offer a raising pop-idol who, among many things, actually has a chance at a wealthy normal and happy life.'
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>>20057323
I need to drink just to get through the day.

I kill people for a living. Lots of people.

I sold my soul for something I can't even remember what anymore.

I can't remember what my parents look like.

In a few years I'll most likely be dead

I know what Iori feels. And she is far, far better off without me. Like a lot of people.
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>>20057432
Yes but we can see that she dies quickly instead of dying a horrible abomination.

I swear this thread has gone stupider and stupider the longer it has gone on. About ready to say fuck this and leave you retards to it
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>>20057422
I like this one. We aren't a good for relationships.
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Let's also ignore the convenient fact Faust can give the Golden Weapons to non-megucas. As Kilgore has shown.
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>>20057413
This
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>>20057470
please do

one less raging neckbeard in the thread
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>>20057323

"They're all better off without me."
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>>20057487
One less drop of piss in an ocean of piss won't make much difference anyway
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Twitter post by Deculture
>Rain is really bad! I hope nothing happens, but there's a chance I might lose my connection or power.

Just a heads up
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>>20057458
Oh, and add that if she let's Iori die under her watch, Garcia will need a new maid. Several in fact, because Murderface likes to spread dissatisfaction around.

Murderface fucks things up, that's how it works. That's IC. Then when we get back from Siberia, having had a while to mull over how we fucked up, we try and fix it. Sound good?
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>>20057492
Let's stop with the drinking and the pills; they obviously aren't killing us fast enough because we're still causing pain and trouble for the 3 friends we have left.

Just kill ourselves. It's faster, and it denies Pinky what she wants.
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>>20057504
I count every drop that falls into this ocean.

I weep for every single one.
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>>20057470
Don't worry, you presence, or the lack of it, won't make the slightest difference.

The MSQ degenerates have taken over. Just enjoy MGNQ as long as it's not complete crap, won't take long now.
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"It's an infatuation she will have to grow out of."

Being splattered in fat rapists brains is what made Iori fall for Chiaki, it's not a sane base for a relationship. And it's not like Murderface is terrible at basic human interactions after all, nothing could go wrong!
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>>20057517
Pretty sure Garcia will need a new Garcia.
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Guys. Guys. What if this is a warning.

In Noir, you chase the skirt, you hunt down the leads, you act professional, you get your shit kicked in and maybe barely scrape out a half-victory if you're lucky and good.

We're trying to be a little more genre savvy. What if people aren't genre savvy in Noir because it just makes things much, much worse?
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>>20057517
Except you missed the several times that she doesn't like the name "Murderface" and the reputation behind that. Its not in character.
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>>20057518
Already been suggested, still the best idea we have had this thread.
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>>20057323
I am toxic Fabiola. She is better off without me.
At least she will be able to have a normal life with someone else.
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>>20057531
Actually they have been here all along,
It is the summerfags and 40kids who are ruining it this time.

Who do you think waifu'd over everyone from the start?
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This seems like as good a time to point this out as any, if you guys have missed it.

https://twitter.com/magicalgirlnoir/status/226231703981678592

>That's an intresting qualifier, actually. Are you considering the chance that Chiaki could die? Is that game over?

>Her fate is in the players' hands!
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>>20057545

I have so far refrained... but fuck it, I'll say it now.

We need to teach Midori to use her Illisions to make us invisible. Then, practice our evil laughter while we stock up on trench coats and hand grenades.

A time stopping Shadow is terrifying. And should happen asap.
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>>20057546
Except when we're trying to trade on the reputation. You're right, I shouldn't use it as much as I do, but i do think it fits this situation.

>>20057540
And we shouldn't say that though. Threatening Fabiola we can get away with, threatening Garcia will only lose us another friend.
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>>20057518
It's a good way to make sure the other characters have at least a shred of sympathy for the character, or for the npc to say something that could lead to them telling us to stop being such a dipshit.
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You know, we could ask what the news has made of the mansion indecent. Most likely it has been reported as 'an attack by an unknown party. '
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>>20057545
That's what we call "death by genre savviness"
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>>20057610
Just some swamp gas. Swamp gas and weather balloons.
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>>20057612
Seems better than death by genre ignorance.
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>>20057583
that's...

THE ENTIRE POINT OF A QUEST. YOU CAN FAIL.

sweet baby nazi genius jesus
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>>20057612
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathByGenreSavviness
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>>20057545

Getting too genre savvy isn't fun, but us being an emotional cripple and pushing Iori away does make sense.
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>>20057579
I've stopped to bother with posting suggestions 2 threads ago. It usually gets drowned out in the sea of people posting the same suggestion over and over anyway.

The quest is incredibly fun to read on suptg if you skip everything except Deculture's posts, but actually participating? Hell no.
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>>20057583
The more interesting question is what happens to Midori if Matsuda dies? Is she "free" or does she die also? How does our contract with her work?
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If anybody wants tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/TheUniversalGenreSavvyGuide
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>>20057605
>make sure the other characters have at least a shred of sympathy for the character
Well, you have guys like this >>20057531 who want to blame MSQ for everything going wrong when 1. it's a noir game so things are supposed to go wrong and 2. it's this insistence that grimderp is best derp, and that Chiaki should act unlikable to everyone that is continuing to vindicate the opinions of people like Sayaka, who think that we're not worth spending time on.
That's the opinion that Murderface was creating, and that some people seem to want to continue perpetuating.
The booze and pills don't make us sympathetic, they just make us too pathetic to and cowardly to stop being a pain to everyone and ending ourselves.
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>>20056861
>Babe isn't on netflix

fuck this gay earth
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>>20057648
I am close to even giving up on that.

It is a lot less fun if everything is run by a bunch of retards.
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>>20057636

I know that. To be fair, the question was asked during the Kilgore fight when the accusations of railroading were flying thick. Not many people follow the twitter feed, though, so I thought I'd confirm that for the folks over here.

Sorry if I insulted you.
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>>20057648
>The quest is incredibly fun to read on suptg
And then people do something incredibly retarded like basically telling Iori to fuck off.
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>>20057682
It's a pretty good idea, actually. Who the hell wants needy baggage like that clinging onto them?
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>>20057674
sorry, that was a bit much. I had just found out about no Babe.

but that is the point of these quest threads, otherwise Deculture would just be writing really strange AU fan-fiction.
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>>20057669
>>20057682
It cannot be helped.

I'm not exactly enjoying these developments either, but really - the majority seems to want to down that road.
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>>20057698
That would be the 'Waifu' faction.
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>>20057660
I cannot see why anyone would want to make the main character such a boring piece of shit though. Honestly there is nothing worse than a character that has nothing and never developed past that point.
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>>20057660

I find myself agreeing with this. Since the first thread, when we started telling people not to call us Murderface we've been trying to become a better person. It's been bumpy, and we've fucked up a whole lot, but we're trying. And that does count for something. The whole Midori thing happened when we did something stupid while drunk. Now we've hurt someone we find ourselves caring more about than we realised.

We should quit drinking. Now makes the most sense for us to do it, considering the fallout. We'll still fall off the wagon and get drunk and do stupid things, but now, feeling the urge to hug someone that we need to push away, knowing that her tears, and all her worry were caused because we were hiding in a bottle, is the time for us to try and stop hiding.

Saying all this, of course the grim derp people will ignore me, but I had to try.
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>>20057717
>Noir setting
>giving up booze
Get out.
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>>20057698
Its not in character.

There's hints all over the place that Matsuda cares for Iori you fucking idiot.

And there's hints in the post that being a gigantic douche to her was a bad way to go. Especially since Deculture had to throw it in our faces that "IT WAS A RETARDED IDEA TO DO THAT" with Fabiola.

I'm not blaming fanbases or whatever, but the quality of our decisions will go up if everyone read the updates carefully. Instead of skimming and rushing to post a decision that's the direct opposite of what the character is hinting at in her thoughts.
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>>20057698
Because character with no emotional investments are fucking boring.
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>>20057717
>of course the grim derp people will ignore me
No, no. They'll accuse you of being scum from MSQ first.
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>>20057708
I have no problems being better friends with Kyoko, Misaka, fixing what we have with Mami, and doing... something with our new fangirl.

The loli can stay with Richie Rich.
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>>20057708

Because that's cool and edgy and counter culture. Emotions are for suckers, and we're our own dame, striking out on our own and being a rebel! /sarcasm
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>>20057698
We all should, considering she's our first step out of the pit.
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>>20057735
>"IT WAS A RETARDED IDEA TO DO THAT" with Fabiola.
Because every npc has the same views as the quest master.
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>>20057746
Or the MSQ crowd will accuse you of being grim derp.

Another neat quest destroyed by its user base.
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>>20057245
Attention Whoring to the max
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>>20057758
>wahhhhhhhh, they diddn't want to be bestest friends with the character i like

>>20057771
that's fucking stretching it. We can start being friends with anyone else and slowly start getting better.

>>20057773
this. you just want Deculture to be on your side.
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I think we should try and salvage our relationship with Iori. Honestly stomping on the poor girls feelings like this was a dick move. Remember she has had no one else to depend on. Next time we face her we explain that all you can be is friends but that doesn't mean that you want her gone. Indeed you need all the friends you can cling to. Miss Murderface is simply not in the position to be someones lover.
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>>20057803
She has Garcia, if he plays the damn hand we just delivered on a silver platter.
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>>20057803
She has Garcia now. At least, I hope so.
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>>20057789
>>20057773
All I have to say is reread the thread and reread the previous two threads.
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A Magical Girl Noir Quest thread consists of:
~4% story posts by Deculture
~16% suggestions what to
~60% arguing over said suggestions
~20% insulting other posters for having a different opinion than one's own.
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>>20057807
>>20057809
>Garcia
>Most of the mentions of Garcia being overly friendly with Iori has Matsuda feeling jealousy.
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>>20057807
>>20057809
To be honest, if he does something to/with her in the state she's currently in, he's really a dick.
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>>20057778
>>20057789
No, really, you're trying to make Chiaki Matsuda turn back to Murderface. Someone that Kyoko tolerated (she acted friendly when we first met in the bar, but it was apparent that she didn't like us that much), Mami had nearly given up on, and that Sayaka was just champing at the bit to retire.
Someone who is better off dead.
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>>20057379

You thank her for the timely, thinly-veiled insult on your social skills. You would have been offended if you were subscribing to the illusion that you had any in the first place. Maybe, if she was as useful as a Miss Lonelyhearts clone as she was a glorified servant in frilly trappings, she could've warned you what NOT to do in advance. But she didn't, now did she?

"If you had only asked, Chiaki, I would have advised you on how to deal with such a delicate situation. A girl's heart is the most fragile of things, especially one that had been pulled open by another's hands." Fabiola shakes her head mournfully as she keeps up with your brisk walk down the corridor. "Those hands are yours no matter how you try to ignore it or even discount it. Honestly, I thought it would have been obvious to you--"

You stop in your tracks, the plate of pancakes in your arms, and you glare at Fabiola. She tries to meet your gaze, but averts her eyes after a few moments. You hear her mumble an apology, and it's then that you continue on your way. Leaving her in your wake, Fabiola looking after you, clearly disappointed at how well you've dealt with everything.

It's better this way, you tell yourself. No one needs you in their life - the same exact way no one needs a ragged, lacerated hole in their chest where their heart used to be.

[1/2]
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>>20057803
If she doesn't try the 3rd party shit and guilt tripping again I'd be fine with trying to fix the friendship.

No apologies, no groveling.

>>20057818
did... did you count the posts this thread?
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>>20057827
He hasn't turned in to a man yet. Hoping for a Roberta arc later.
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>>20057837
No. It's just a guess.
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Garcia is a potential love interest, not a friend and not someone she can rely on to protect her.
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>>20057717

You don't stop walking until you're outside, and you see Midori leaning against the car's passenger side, fiddling with her smartphone. She looks up at your arrival, and blinks at the plate of pancakes you're carrying. She blinks again as she sees your face.

You thrust the plate into her arms. You tell her that you'll be the one driving for now.

"A-alright, Matsuda-sempai. Key's still in the ignition." A moment. "Do...do you need tissues, Matsuda-sempai? I have some, here..."

No. No, you don't. Not at the moment. You tell her to get in the car and shut up.

You need to get away from here as fast as possible.
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>>20057835
So because we don't want one character around us we immediately are grimderp Murderface lovers? I just can't stand Iori. Never could. I still want us to better ourselves, just without the needy bitch.
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>>20057789
>anyone else
Who? Another meguca? They've been in the shit for as long as we have, and are as fucked up as we are. Yes, even Mami.
Now we meet someone that makes us think the world isn't as much of a shitty place as we think it is, that we can be better, and what do we do? This bullshit.
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>>20057836
No offense to those that chose this path, but this feels like its going to backfire on us horribly.
Unless that is your intention, then I commend you.
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>>20057860

weather sure can change quickly huh?
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>>20057835
Don't bother,
He wants his characters written like ward's character. Bland and overpowered
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>>20057860
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I think the two lovebirds could use some time away from each other. Shit's too crazy to try and sort through at the moment. Falling all over each other without some time to reflect, figure out where they are and need to be in life, and hasty ill-thought-out reconcilliations'll just send the whole house of cards tumbling down.

Enough to drive a bird crazy, this shit.
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Alright, it's really pouring here, guys. I know I promised an extra-long thread but I may be getting cut out before too long, so I'm pausing here.

Thank you for participating again, I appreciate your kind words and support!
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>>20057867
Maybe without the the Iori hate but basically, I'm with this guy.
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>>20057888
Did you draw that? Good work!
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>>20057836

Oh... shit. Someone tapped The Guilt Button.

Welp... time to leave!
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>>20057896

it is raining in more ways than one.

see you next time.
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>>20057867
That's all I have seen from anyone who has supported the current line of reasoning so yes.
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>>20057896
Thank you for the awesome thread Deculture, and forgive us for the shitstorm

I am also terrbily sorry that I could not keep my promise. I still have not finish the pic for this thread. I am sorry, I'll try to make the next thread
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>>20057896
Thanks for the thread Deculture.
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>>20057896

Thanks for running the quest for us Deculture, as always! And good luck dealing with your temperamental weather!
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>>20057860
>>20057896
>Alright, it's really pouring here, guys.

>>20057867
its clear that it won't better ourselves by pushing her away like that.
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>>20057868
Misaka isn't a magic girl. The fangirl is the exact same thing as the loli right now except with powers. Obsessed and needy.

Now you're objecting to making/fixing friendships, just because the characters might understand us a bit better?
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If anybody ever needs proof that euro-/tg/ is worse than us-/tg/ in practically every way, the user base of this quest should be more than enough.
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>>20057896
Well, that's a shame. As always, thanks for running the quest, and I hope your internet survives.
We've had a, if not extra-long, certainly... interesting session, to say the least.
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>>20057860

It is time. To #0069. Misaka is Epic little sister tier. Cry on her shoulder if you need to.
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>>20057867
>I just can't stand Iori. Never could
That's your opinion, not the character's.
And instead of bettering ourselves, this has made us look worse in the eyes of another professional, and it's not exactly going to do wonders for our strained relationship with Mami.
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>>20057857
>Garcia is a potential love interest
And that's why we want him as far away from Iori as humanly possible. Yet here she stays instead of being safely cooped up in our apartment.
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html

Vote it up.
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>>20057896
>>20057860
>rain
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>>20057875
*Jumps up and down waving*
Yep! Me! I wanted this to blow up in our faces!

Seriously guys, what quest have you been reading? Since when does Chiaki express how she feels towards those she's close to? We need something like this, something dramatic, something painful and unpleasant if we're going to let Iori in. If we just walked up to Iori and started whispering sweet nothings, and of our undying devotion to her, then sure, it'd be the better decision, but it wouldn't be Chiaki Matsuda making it! Now, we go to Siberia, hunt mecha bears with Misaka (who is a good girl) stress and agonise over how bad we fucked up, and when we get back, THEN we can try and chase Iori.
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>>20057915
Well then go suck a cock, waifufag.
>>20057921
Maybe not.
>>20057922
Correct, but we shut her down, too and Misaka is a little sister at most.
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>>20057875
Well yeah, but what's the alternative?

Make nice with Iori? That'll have 200 posts of screaming leading to a backhanded apology that's worse than if we'd just stalked away.
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>>20057930
/tg/ in general has been shit since the modpocalypses and you are deluding yourself if you think anything is better or worse than what you see in here.

This thread is just a good example of that.
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Hey guys, how about we stop shit storming over what was previously a consensus; to apologise and explain ourselves without conceding we do what we want. The fact we IC explained it badly is a testament to Deculture getting the tone of our 'thoughts' right and Chiaki's bad personal skills.

This isn't a matter of completely rejecting Iori being around us, just drawing a line on what we think the relationship is. Iori keeps encroaching on our personal affairs and has a unhealthy obsession with us. If we're going to have any chance of a healthy relationship we can't just give in because it looks bad. Defeats the whole point of the original distancing ourselves.

By the sounds of it you'd think we just spelled out doom, but really, we were going to make her cry at some point. Better we set ourselves out now and rebuild then pretend like everything is going to work out while everyone in the quest persues MAGIC RAPE with the other girls.

Yeah, what's more likely to send Iori to pinky? Telling her we are her body guard before her friend, or leading her on while we're fucking about with the girl who almost got her raped?

Both Midori and Iori need to go back to profession relationships slowly building up into friendships, not creepy obsession based relationships.
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>>20057943

Gah, looks like you started your arch a few seconds before mine. *laugh*
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>>20057946
Oh please do not mistake my intention. I DO NOT want Chiaki to get 'busy' with Iori, nor do I like the shipping.

What I mean is, it seems very likely that Iori will fall to Pinky's clutches. But then again that means plot, so Im not particularly against it

Forgive me if I offended you
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In the end the choice was completely irrelevant.

Push away Iori -> Iori gets all depressed and goes magical girl/dies.

Keep Iori -> Shit happens and then Iori gets all depressed and goes magical girl/dies.

Quit bitching, this is noir. Shit will hit the fan regardless.
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>>20057930

That's retarded. the shitstorm is the same, regardless of the time
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>>20057946
>>20057965
>>20057979

These.
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>>20057922
She's fucking needy because her best friend/lover killed herself after being raped, was almost raped herself and now most of her other friends are dead too.

A protector that has kept her safe, and someone she could rely on has now pushed her away like she's unwanted garbage.

I'm saying we should've had much more tact about what we said. How we say shit is important as what we say.
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>>20057972
Had the interface open at the 243rd post.

What was your descriptor going to be?
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>>20057950
Better than a whole thread of "let's go back to being a cunt because I don't like character development"
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>>20057948
Only because you think of her a little sister.

>>20057990
Using a drunken, ill-tempered, amnesic magic girl as your only life line is retarded. If that how you think of it I'm glad we cut it off.
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>>20057990
Don't even try explaining it.
It has been attempted repeatedly with no success and it won't ever get through the skulls of these retards because all they want is grimdark edginess
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>>20057990
But Chiaki does NOT have PEOPLE SKILLS! She said it as good as she was able to.

You are trying to meta, by putting these perfectly crafted responses in her mouth. What you wanted would've only been possible by asking Fabiola for help.

I for one got exactly what I wanted. Noir Drama.
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>>20058008
>Using a drunken, ill-tempered, amnesic magic girl as your only life line is retarded
It's also the only one that's worked so far.
Retarded or not, it's worked when everything else went to shit.
It's even more retarded to discount something that works simply because it sounds stupid.
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>>20058008
That's how Iori sees it BECAUSE SHE IS FUCKING EMOTIONAL YOU RETARD.

Saying it is a bad idea is easy to see when you are outside the situation but being in that exact situation when you are a 15 odd year old girl is not going to make you think with anything approaching logic
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>>20058001
You should have used a "Massive Shitstorm" tag
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>>20057965

THIS THIS THIS MOTHERFUCKING THIS.
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>Entire thread of people raging at noir drama in a noir quest.

Oh, /tg/ you so silly.
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>>20058018
It is no more meta than everyone wanting to push her away because it is genre savvy.
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>>20058001

Yours is better anyway. I was wrestling with how to equate the pancakes and Iori. "A sober but angry magical girl has a teary goodbye to a friend and a stack of pancakes"
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"QB."

"Rogue Trader."

"I had assumed Mami would have briefed you on your new mission by now." I looked at QB quizzically.

"No matter. You are going to accompany one of my agents to Siberia. You will receive your mission once you reach there."

I stare, slackjawed, at the mutant cat.

"Do not worry. You have enough time to pack and request whatever you need. You have been discharged effective immediately and you appear to be well enough." That fucking voice. Always one step ahead of me.

"I've also wired a down payment and am willing to pay you thrice your asking fee." Oh, shit.

"How much time do I have left?" I ask, stunned by the turn of events.

"About three hours. The flight leaves at noon."

"Where."

"As I said earlier, Siberia." QB repeated himself. I'm pretty sure he's not sending me there to sample the finest Russian vodka and shake hands with Putin, so I grab a sheet of paper and hurriedly put together a list of items I might need.

"Very well. Your requested items will be at the airport. See you around, Rogue Trader." And with that, he left.

I collect my wits, the dossier and my jaw. Damn it all to hell.

There's a beep from my handphone. I check the new message. "Actually, you have an hour and a half before the flight. Your cover story is that you are the pilot. I hope you know how to fly a plane."

I stare at the phone. Dammit. Dammit all to hell. FUCKING QB!
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>>20058035
Or "bunch of fucking retards"
Both fit
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>>20057974

Sorry if I got a bit heated, it was uncalled for really. My post was directed at the thread in general really.

>>20058018

This. Despite the shitstorm, this was quite enjoyable really, and I don't overly mind the shitstorm, because, like all grognards, I enjoy being angry.
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>>20058032
>>20058030
Now she has Richie Rich and can hire as many bodyguards and magic girl squads as she needs.

if it is retarded, then we've done the right thing.
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>>20057965
Very much seconded. If we can't say it to her directly, simply send her a message. We could get help from our remaining friends so we don't write complete shit.
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>>20057965
>This isn't a matter of completely rejecting Iori being around us
Except some people do want this to be Chiaki completely rejecting Iori, even though Deculture has written that it is clearly not the case.
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>>20058050
btw, is this crap canon or just fan fiction?
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>>20058071
canon fan fiction, i believe.
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>>20058050
stop this shit, no one want your shit fiction of fiction
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>>20058042
No it is an entire thread of people raging at the choices because they alternately want to act like a human being or act like a retarded child of GRIMDERP.
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>>20058054
I see, still Im sorry for any misunderstanding.

>>20058071
I believe it was the writefag that asked permission from Deculture and received approval. He was the one that tied Mami and the Rogue Trade, but I might be wrong.
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>>20058018
>>20058054
Its also meta as fuck to keep everything "genre savvy"

Every bad decision so far has the crutch of "BUT ITS NOIR SO ITS IN CHARACTER".

That's meta as fuck as well dipshit
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>>20058035
Oh yeah how could I have missed it.
>>20058046
I'm not always around to archive these threads. See you next time if I can make it.
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>>20058079

Of which Chiaki is neither.
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>>20058077

Oh, you're just mad because he thought to edge in and get official sanction to marry off one of the side characters. We all thought it was awesome in the first few threads.
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>>20058087
Too bad he didn't ask for help with his writing skills.
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>>20058079
>No it is an entire thread of people raging at the choices because they alternately want to act like a human being or act like a retarded child of WaifuDERP.
Fuck you, guy
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>>20058088
In character is being meta. Riiiiight.
>>20058077
You are wrong.
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>>20058087
As in "go ahead, write it if you want" or as in "yeah, that'll be official and set in stone"?
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>>20058071

Decide what you will.
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>>20058099
?

I don't want us to hook up with pancakes.
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>>20058058
She clearly doesn't have as much attachment to them as she does for Chiaki.

Does nobody read the posts? Or do you just skim them?
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>>20058116
I'd say he's right.
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>>20058091

I'm not mad, dude. I'm just glade someone is also making sure they're arched; I hate having to leave during the morning and thinking 'gee, I hope someone is paying attention!'

Are you the dude who caught the misnumbering last thread? Good work, if you were!
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>>20058130
Selective reading. Everybody just takes the parts of Deculture's posts that fit their opinion.
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>>20058101
At least he has something, which I cant say for myself.
A bit infuriating on my part, I cant carry the name Amateur Drawfag and not draw. Kinda defeats the purpose.
>>20058119
A bit of both. Deculture welcomes all that wishes to expand the setting, though I think the writefag still inquires with Deculture for continuity.

Mr. Writefag, can you verify this?
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>>20058130
You honestly believe the retards that make up most of the spam in here read the posts?
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>>20058116
So its meta to use the detailed posts that Deculture writes out for us as clues on what to do and what to say, but its not meta use genre savvyness to dictate every decision.

"Well this commonly happens in [insert genre] so we should do it" is also meta.
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>>20058050

Writefag, would you happen to have these all in one place for those of us dig anything Deculture says is canon?
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>>20058134
Then you are wrong too, because there is one person that likes his story. Me.
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>>20058155
You draw for various other threads and most people who see you know what you can do.
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>>20058130
I never said she wanted to fuck him. Hanging for Richie Rich is definitely better for her then staying with us though.
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Am I the only one tired of all the "roleplaying minmaxing" going on in this thread? Just do stuff the character would do, and stop trying to solve our problems with DEEP sentences about our feelings and actions. The aspie vibe it gives is rather disgusting.
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>>20058166
You disagree with me => you aren't anybody => no one wants to read his ff.
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>>20058166
And it seems at least three who dislike it enough to say it.
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>>20058162
NO YOU RETARDED FUCK! WANTING CHIAKI TO HAVE PEOPLE SKILLS IS META! NOT WANTING HER TO HANG AROUND IORI, YOU STUPID FUCK!
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>>20058181
out with*
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>>20058140
The dude complaining about descriptions. I don't namefag is all.
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>>20058191
>Stop trying to solve problems with feelings by talking about feelings.
Uuuuuhhh...
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>>20058194
>>20058195
But one isn't no one. Just accept that one is more than zero.
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>>20058196
>IORI IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SAVE IS

>SHE IS THE GOD-EMPEROR
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>>20058196
I'm starting to think he is a troll.
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>>20058196
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say
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>>20058196
This isn't even about her having people skills it is about her not being utterly fucking retarded.

These big long posts mostly get stripped down for what they mean and rewritten by Deculture anyway
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>>20058214
Murderface's own thoughts keep saying she cares about Iori.
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>>20058210
I am not who you were talking to in the first place and I agree he is wrong that no one wants it

No one asked for it and so far we haven't really found a consensus on what we think about it since no one has brought it up yet.
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>>20058191
What exactly do you mean? As in, us talking about her feelings, or us trying to get her to say what her feelings are?
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>>20058210
I BEND NO KNEE TO MATHEMATICS.

HAVE AT THEE, KNAVE!
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>>20058214
I don't even like Iori. Nice try though.
>>20058218
Me?
>>20058221
I'm trying to say that super verbose, all feely touchy speeches isn't what Chiaki is able to do. Not without help. You want Iori? Employ help to make the feelings clear.
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>every post not by Deculture
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>>20058179
Still, a anon calling himself drawfag and not spitting out draws is unsightly, and frankly insultive to those that are actually good, unlike me.

Ah well, might as well get started on it. Good bye gentlemen. Please, try to remain even just a bit of civility? For Deculture's sake
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>all this bickering

time for porn.
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>>20058196
But Deculture always strips down what we say and runs it through the NO SOCIAL SKILLS filter before having Chiaki say anything.
So really, it still boils down to are we burning our bridges with her or trying to work at our relationship.
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>>20058071
Fan fiction, of course. Has Mami ever mentioned being married, or even close, to any male so far?
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>>20058240
Then you are retarded, because I like them and am clearly more than no one. No one would be none, zero people. I am one person.

Deculture also approved them so that's another one.
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>>20058242
Second. Us arguing about her feelings would be fine I think, if the discussion didn't degenerate into lolfactions like it always does.
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>>20058210
No. I define MGNQ as the ring of integers modulo 1. Therefore, 1=0 mod 1.
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>>20058273
Make it something that gets the board taken down and I will buy you a car.
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>>20058286
Did you even read my post?
I agreed that he is wrong saying no one wants it or likes it but I said that 1 no one asked him to write this and 2 there has been no consensus on what we think of it so far because it hasn't been brought up yet.

I swear summer just attracts all the retards to this place
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>>20058258
Nobody wanted help on what to do at all.

The posts are always stripped down to get to the heart of the matter anyway, so none of the touchy feely shit is ever there.

I don't know why you're getting angry over using the posts he writes to get a clue on what we should do. Its more logical than running the quest into a trainwreck because its genre savvy.
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>>20058164

Yeah, I do inquire with Deculture regarding contiunity. If not, i'd not be writing this in the first place.

>>20058155

I do. It's in my damn phone. I'll see to getting a pastebin for them or something when I fix my computer. Typing on a phone is not a good pain.

Also, would it be fine if I used a name and probably a trip to identify myself from the next thread onwards?
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>>20058287

Then I agree with you wholeheartedly on that, and offer you my hand in friendship. Something that is sadly lacking in these threads. I swear the bickering is getting angrier with each thread.
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>>20058333

And I'm saying that people want the super verbose shit and the only way to get the super verbose shit is to employ help. No one wanted help and as such super verbose shit is not possible.
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>>20058356
Notice in the first dozen odd threads there was none of this shit?
I wish we still had that, I liked that.
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>>20058350
So that garbage is canon? Whoa.
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>Everyone keeps saying meta
What meta actually means
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meta
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>>20058350
It would probably help sorting your posts from the massive spam we get
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I like how in the very first response I said to ask if the Iori would talk about this in private like a reasonable person.

Iori did not do so and for the entirety of this thread let third parties speak for her. Even as her supposed grief overwhelmed her she didn't try talking to us herself. She didn't even look at us as we went on, nor try to dissuade us from making this a purely professionally relationship.

If she wasn't willing to speak for herself nor try to keep what she obviously felt was a deep friendship, then there was nothing in the first place.

Fare ye well fair maiden. See you during the final battle.
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>>20058298

my good man it seems that i have not properly formulated my last post.

it is not my intention to post any pornographic material (which i will be looking at in a mere moment) in this thread.

i apologize for my misleading post.

>don't think missionary would bring down the board anyway.
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>>20058369
I guess everybody will eventually either tire of the constant bickering and arguments, and get back to questing at least a bit more productively, or people will just lose interest because the threads aren't fun any more.
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>>20058371
So doing something "BECAUSE ITS NOIR" is meta.
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>>20058387
Or she was too emotional and hurt like a teenage girl would be to actually talk about things.

Obviously you have never dealt with women in any significant capacity.
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>>20058350
Thank you for verifying writefag.
>Also, would it be fine if I used a name and probably a trip to identify myself from the next thread onwards?

Thats up to you, but I recommend aganst it, at least now. Too many vocal opposing factions, better to let things cool down.
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I think this is, overall, a good test of character for Iori.

Remember that when we first met her, one of the things she told us was something along the lines of "I pity you for letting yourself become someone who can't even understand why someone is upset with you." Shortly after that, we saved her from gang rape and had some awkward attempts at actual human interaction with her. The next day, she began to cling to Chiaki like a puppy, obviously idolizing (heh, pun) the one who had saved her. Not too long after that, the Kilgore assignment was her way of trying to get us to relax and unwind, get us away from a world of guns and death. Her own attempt to save us, I think. That went to the shitter fast, but the sentiments remain: Iori pities Chiaki, idolizes her, and wants to save her.

Now we push her away, for whatever reason, and show that even with her efforts, Chiaki might have improved but she's still emotionally crippled, can't properly express herself and still doesn't understand others well. Now Iori can do two things, run to Garcia and forget about Chiaki. Or she can toughen up and stick to her guns and try to reform Chiaki again once she comes up back. Personally, I think the second one is what is most likely to happen.

She's going to be with Mami, who's stuck with us through WORSE, and has clearly seen that Iori is a good influence on getting Chiaki to become more than an emotionally dead kill-bot.

That's my take on it anyhow.
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>>20058350

I'm one of the people who was interested in what you were writing, but i'd rather you didn't adopt a trip. Though that's more my feelings about 4chan being trip free, other than in cases like quest threads where you need to identify the author.

And I must say, from reading Deculture's twitter, the clique forming does worry me, especially the dude who said he was "gm endorsed". It just looks like this is going to devolve into an attention whoring circlejerk. Which saddens me.
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>>20058404
I share that opinion. I wish you could post such sensible stuff during the quest without getting drowned out by 15 post, consisting basically of the same 1-line reply.
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>>20058404

you!

i like you!
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>>20058404
I'd like to think about it like this if the userbase wasn't so fucking retarded about Iori.

Yeah you personally don't like her, but Matsuda obviously does, as a friend, but still.
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>>20058415
>And I must say, from reading Deculture's twitter, the clique forming does worry me, especially the dude who said he was "gm endorsed". It just looks like this is going to devolve into an attention whoring circlejerk. Which saddens me.

Seconded. So very, very, very much.
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>>20058350
Honestly, you may as well use a trip. It's fairly obvious who you are, but I see nothing wrong with identifying yourself.

If they don't like the way your writing is going, it's not going to be because you're tripping.
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>>20058394
The latter is more likely
And looks to be happening already.
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>>20058404
Can I clone you?
Seriously we NEED more people like you.
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>>20058443
The shitstorm only get larger and smellier each thread.

I expect us to get to 200 post before the second batch of story post next thread.
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>>20058443
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>>20058443
Stop liking what i don't like.jpg was already posted, so i'm going to have to settle for asking you not to be a twat because you don't agree with other people. This is of course entirely futile, because we are arguing on the internet.
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>>20058404
I like that, and it does make sense. People are bitching about us driving her away, but if it was that easy to get her to fuck off and cling to Garcia instead, then she would have bailed at some point anyway.
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>>20058457
I'd say 300 easily.
I will only stick around until it happens then I am not even going to bother with anything of it. Deculture is a good author who is stuck with a shitty audience
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>>20058478
If you enjoy massively derailing shitstorms that have a negative impact on the thread then you really are scum on par with furries and bronies.

If that's what you enjoy though I won't stop you.
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>>20058478
The problem, at least in my opinion, is not the consensus we do eventually reach, but the way we get there.

Currently, everybody is calling every poster with a different opinion names and that's it.

If you like that, I think you're beyond any help.
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>>20058485
Yeah, I really love the story, since I'm a big fan of Madoka, but if this is only going to get worse then i'll probably get driven away. How much do we think summer is to blame? It does seem the first thing that gets trotted out when people aren't happy, but if it is to blame then it'll give me some hope for the quest.
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>>20058515
It's been summer on 4chan for the whole duration of the quest. So that's probably not the thing to blame for the declining quality.
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>>20058503
Yeah, the factionalism is getting pretty bad. I wonder if we could get an official calm the fuck down from Deculture. I doubt it'd work, but it'd be worth a try.
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>>20058515
Really it isn't to blame at all.
Every time something gets popular people shit all over it because it isn't grimdark enough or it isn't needlessly complex enough or god forbid the main character uses their fucking brain.

All that will happen is what has happened to everything halfway decent quest so far, the people who enjoyed it for what is was will leave and the ones who came in thinking it needed to be another terrible 40k tier shithole will remain
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>>20058541

I think that he finds all this shit amusing
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>>20058541
I actually thought this quest would die because of the 40k fags since thread one and they're not proving me wrong.
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>>20058541
I don't think it would work or we would get one.
Deculture doesn't want to try and influence our decisions in any way so he won't do it since it would lead to people saying we can't discuss things.

And you know this is tg where we switch from being bro's of all to the biggest assholes you will ever meet quicker than you can blink
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>>20058547
It was 40k from the beginning. You are in the wrong thread, if you think otherwise.
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>>20058559

Sigh. He is a cruel and angy god.
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>>20058501
Uh. Oops.

I could have sworn that the extension was saying your comment was in reply to the one about deculture's followers on twitter. My apologies.
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>>20058547
>All that will happen is what has happened to everything halfway decent quest so far, the people who enjoyed it for what is was will leave and the ones who came in thinking it needed to be another terrible 40k tier shithole will remain
I refute that remark with AC Quest (which is as much a beta of the Armored Core RPG homebrew), Meta Quest, and Strike Witches Quest.

Though that's not to say that they don't have their own arguments, of course.
Meta Quest has their Requisitions fights, and Strike Witches has 'BOUNCE and PILOT' vs. 'Don't be a fucking retard in front of the world press'.
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>>20058584
No it was noir from the start with 40k references.

Now it is full of 40kids trying to make everything grimdark because that's what noir means to them and that means murderface needs to act like a bitch because that's grimdark.
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>>20058599
AC quest admittedly has avoided it, SWQ went that way for a while but recovered and honestly meta quest swings back and forth between it.
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>>20058604
Actually, it was Madoka/Noir/40k from the start.

Now all the 40k and noir fags try to turn it into a quest mostly revolving around their side.
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>>20058604
Ah. Thanks for the clarification. By the way, Murderface is a bitch. She is trying to get better, but you don't jump from utter bitch that no one likes to perfectly charismatic person with all the lovers.
There have to be bumps in the road.
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>>20058584
It started off as Noir with 40k references.
But now some people want to make it as grimderp as possible, and only Misaka gets any acceptance because she's their techpriestess.
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>>20058583

Yeah... we are awesome, aren't we? Welp, here's hoping this shit calms down, even though it won't.

And it is pretty 40k influenced, which isn't a bad thing, just maybe not a good thing if it gets too much. It's like adding a spice. It adds a certain flavour, and if you like that flavour then it's all good. But as soon as you add too much even people who like it get driven away, until you're left with the people who have no tastebuds. Which is why 40k by itself is bad!
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>>20058404
>Personally, I think the second one is what is most likely to happen.
>>20058479
>if it was that easy to get her to fuck off and cling to Garcia instead, then she would have bailed at some point anyway.
I really, really hope you two are right. I really, really hope she remembers us when we get back, and decides to stay with us instead of going 'I understand you need your space, Chiaki, so I'm staying with Garcia from now on'
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>>20058656
We will see. Either way it will be a challenge to measure Chiaki's character on. I for one find the current decisions to be very IC and satisfying. I can't wait for the conclusion to this "problem".
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>>20058656
Hopefully she recovers and comes to her senses. She's a idol with millions of fans and producers that throw money away trying to protect her. She can get back to work and get out of this messy world.
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I still don't get what the problem is. Everyone assumes bad faith from everyone else.

Let me break down to you what happened here in character. We got to the mansion guilty about magically raping Midori as a experiment and ultimately got a clingy subordinate who doesn't like listening.

So when we got to the mansion, the players weren't in the mood to explain themselves to Fabola nor ask her what the deal with Iori was and get help.

So we get in there and Iori is being childish. We decide and even after 100 posts agree to apologise only for not calling her, which wasn't cool on our part. Chiaki fell on her professional personality (the one she's used to) to do this. So she fucked it up and was blunt as hell when she didn't need to be.

People viewed this as trying to reject her, really we're just drawing a line on what we see the relationship as. She's crying because the way we said it sounds like we're not even friends, bit of a shame but alright. We then stuck to it because drawing a line then going back on it is worthless and would only make it worse.

So that's where we're at. Let's not forget her people who want a perfect solution. We just came back from making the girl (who almost got Iori raped) have a orgasm through magical 'torture' and back then no one was complaining about Iori's feelings.

This whole thing is pretty stupid. We're going to Russia, we caused a mess beforehand but it was still a mess we agreed to make. In the same way people have to deal with the whole terminator part, people now need to deal with the fact Chiaki didn't explain things well.

Big woop. Let's keep going and try and keep the endless accusations of who wants what out. Personally I'm glad deculture has the balls to let us fuck up relationships instead of letting us do everything perfectly without consequence. Everything we tell Chiaki to do goes through her actual talents first. Talking isn't one of them.
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>>20058656

Oh, I hope I'm right too. I've gone from disliking Iori to being on board with chasing her because Chiaki likes her, so whilst I like what's happened thus far, it could really backfire. Which will just make Chiaki want to be a better person harder, so the next time she gets a chance, she doesn't fuck it up.
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>>20058631
>meta quest swings back and forth between it.
That was because MetaOP always dangled the candy-coated apple of Requisitions in front of his players after each harrowing mission.
But now that Requisitions is shut down, the arguments are much, much more muted.

Also, I'd say he's one of the best 'Actions have Consequences, You Dumb Shits' GM's ever.
90 threads. 90 threads where we were allowed to become complacent, when he springs the consequences of once choice we made back in the very beginning, and that we thought we had taken care of.
On top of that, because we didn't take care of another problem that we were told about, and warned about, it's ballooned into a potential crisis.
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>>20058697
>back then no one was complaining about Iori's feelings.

Did you read the same thread I did?
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>>20058700
It's gone the opposite way for me. I used to really like Iori, but then she popped up in this quest and the arguments started. I've started resenting her lately, which is silly. I just want Chiaki to be friends with her, no love involved. It would solve everything.
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>>20058689
Except, you know, Kilgore killed all of her coworkers and staff.

Whoops.
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>>20058735
Word
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>>20058735
I pretty much hate her, but I can accept and support your stance. Friendship is acceptable.
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>>20058718
Yeah he is brilliant as an OP.
I liked that he has kept people on their toes somewhat with consequences because honestly it has kept things interesting.

I got bored with Zerg quest about 50 or so threads in because there was literally no consequences to things, the funniest part of that was having Bernie the rapist zergling become a cerebrate and that biting people in the ass the it was right back to "nothing stops the rape train"
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>>20058697

This. In the end, everyone needs to trust Deculture and stop bitching so much. It's the cardinal rule I use when playing PnP RPGs. I trust the GM to give me a good time and go with what they say, even if I don't like it at the time. If you can't trust the GM that much, you need to find another. Deculture is our GM, he's good at what he does, so we should just go with it.
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>>20058689
>producers that throw money away trying to protect her. She can get back to work and get out of this messy world.
You mean the producers and production studio that just had a majority of its singers and top executives killed?
The production studio that basically had it's heart and guts ripped out, and one of its major shareholders killed?
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>>20058745
Did we ever ask if somebody else actually survived? I know there's that guy's fan fiction, but eh. It's rather poorly written fan fiction.
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>>20058745
At the very least three of her friends and her producer.
And before that her best friend committed suicide after being raped because she was famous.

I honestly don't see her going back to being an idol at all
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>>20058745
durp, they can't find new idols
durp, support staff can't be replaced.
durp, some other talent agency wouldn't like to pick her up now.

anything else numbnuts? The tragic events around her will help her make millions if she takes advantage of it.
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>>20058759
Trusting Deculture isn't the issue here
It is trusting the chucklefucks that make up the majority of this threads followers
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>>20058778
Finding idols is tough, because they need to be groomed and introduced once they're market ready. You can't just do it on a whim.
Support staff can be replaced but it would take a big investment in capital and familiarizing new staff with corporate procedures always takes time.
And given that Iori was best friends with an idol who was raped and had the video released to the Internet, then was herself attacked, and now was at the site of a massive bloodbath, the market analysts would be stupid to just pick her up before checking if she's even still worth it.

The market is fickle, and with everything that's happened to her, Iori may not be that valuable anymore.
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>>20058773
>>20058778
I don't see her even WANTING to have anything to do with that life. It's not like we had any part of that, either; Yayoi happened well before us, and Kilgore was going after THEM, not us.
I think she's done with the whole 'happily ignoring life's problems' Idol Singer thing.

Now she's headed toward the sultry dame crooning on the top of the piano while we cradle our whiskey and watch from the smokey bar.
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>>20058766
No we didn't.
It was asked a few times to be included in the post Kilgore fight but it never got answered one way or the other.

>>20058778
I think it is less her being signed again and more her going anywhere near the industry and spotlight given what it has done to her friends and herself
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>>20058823
she'll get millions of sympathy fans if they play it right.

unless she was actually paying attention in school she stuck with it unless she whores out to the rich boy.
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>>20058835
In her position I would think going outside would be grounds for a panic attack after what has happened to her recently.

Which is why she has clung so fucking tightly to Chiaki because she makes her feel safe despite all that has happened.
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>>20058604

Actually, I want you to prove your statements here. I can understand disliking the idea of 40k having influence on the quest beyond references on parallels, but I've never actually seen someone try and make the quest 'grim and dark.'

Seriously, even the 'Dump Iori on Garcias' crowd explain their logic well enough through I don't agree with the sentiment. Where has anyone tried to make this grim and dark.

We just came from seeing Kyoko's broken back and Sayaka who is really upset with us (again), it's not unreasonable to think people who want to help us will be hurt. No one is saying everyone should be pushed away, just Iori who is a normal person. Mami is a magic girl and we relate to her better.

I've not actually seen anyone suggest in this thread we should be more like 40k. People like that we're getting some Noir drama, some people are upset we're not talking about our feelings openly, I get that, but where is anyone truly trying to derail this shit?
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>>20058756
>I liked that he has kept people on their toes somewhat with consequences
I just like the timing.
He waited until we had built up a battlefleet, that we were confident with our firepower, secure in the idea that we had everything we needed.
Then he pops the bubble by saying "No, not really. That extradimensional entity you decided to show around your neighborhood? Turns out he's now going around breaking into everyone's homes and killing everyone. That little factional war you thought could be kept contained? Congratulations, even after I told you what they were, you let the Magitek Borg get ahold of some of the most advanced magic and technology in the entire sector to assimilate. Oh yes, and you failed to concentrate fire on the transports, which have just escaped and are going to get High Command to label you all as traitors. Good luck fighting against the entirety of your organization."
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>>20058883
Yes, because they don't agree with me, and that's doubleplusungood crimethink.
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>>20058883
Because we went from a professional misfit and general bitch because we hated ourself to being a retarded manchild who pushes people away because "it's totally what we should do because I dislike this character" and because of genre savviness.

Also there has been a lot of emphasis on trying to be dark and edgy because noir means everyone has to act like a 14 year old BB'S role player and try too hard.

Funnily enough exactly what most of what 40k is built on these days
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As someone who generally just watches MGQN instead of playing (mostly because I tend to only get online after Deculture has posted the CHIKUWA sign), this thread actually made me sad.

Between Iori being heartbroken, the signs that Chiaki isn't taking it well at all, and the mass of arguing over the point from the players, this thread really made me feel gloomy.

I'm on the fence regarding if I'd prefer things between Iori and Chiaki to be romantic or platonic (leaning a bit toward romantic, though), but I don't want to see her driven completely away from us.
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>>20058964
You aren't the only one there.
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>>20058818

It totally is though. A lot of people here are saying they don't trust the majority to make the right decision, keep in mind most of the thread is bitching about the decision we mostly agreed on.

All in all, I think it's better to just roll with it right now. Deculture put the decision into the right IC context when he did it, it wasn't a perfect solution but perfect solutions are boring. If we trust him and quit bickering about the consensus we'll enjoy the thread more. Sometimes you gotta fail to build up to the best parts.

I wish more quests understood that mistakes aren't a huge problem. The story is the most important part. Now we've got something to fix when we get back.
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>>20058964
It's as easy as writing her a message saying 'We'll have a proper talk once I'm back.' to keep the situation from deteriorating.

But then the Iori haters will scream at you for being nice to her, while the Iori lovers will scream at you for not begging her forgiveness and declaring our undying love for her.

Then the Noir faction will tell us our PC can't have friends, the 40k faction will basically say the same, and the waifu faction will post reasons why their choice is superior.

>>20058997
Failure isn't a proble,. Easily avoided failure is a problem.
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>>20058865
Assuming, of course, future idols and investors don't look at the company as one who has gotten not only one of their primer stars raped on the internet, but also can't even contain a party from turning into a bloodbath.

Assuming the directors and everyone else who was important would think to skip out on a party this grand, and thus end up victims also.

I don't think there's much of production studio left for Iori to go back to...
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>>20058997
Except the issue came about because twice people went for the full retard option simply because they thought we needed to fuck up on purpose.

Then you have the very real possibility that there won't be anything to fix when we get back, this could have been a very big plot point that determined if we have A or B ending and we just went rocketing down the bad ending path

Remember when he said chiaki's fate was in the players hands? This is one of those times that it was entirely in our hands and it will have repercussions
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Am I the only player worried by the Twitter circle jerk?
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>>20059056
Nope.
>>20058435
>>20058415
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>>20059056
You are one of a very small circle.
Really there is not much of a circle jerk when one of them only used it to get Deculture to say he could avatarfag, two of them don't follow the quest, one reads it on the archives because of time zone differences and the last one mainly uses twitter to watch for thread details ( me )
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>>20059037
" fuck up on purpose"

No, I wasn't going to talk to a her like a brat through a 3rd party. She could have talk to us off to the side. Nor be apologetic for going off for a drink.

She choose to sit there and let Richie Rich fumble the ball around with us.
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>>20059056
>>20058435
>>20058415
Deculture acknowledges people who actually bother to talk to him, what a concept.
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>>20059106
I use it to say nice things at the end of every thread.
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Say, does the phrase 'always darkest before dawn' apply to noir settings?
Because if it does, when we get back we'll have a nice big apology for her and she will have a nice big tower of pancakes for us.
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>>20059114
And we chose overwhelmingly to be so stupid to ignore what reasons she may have for being mad enough to act like a brat because apparently it's in character despite us doing our best to stop being a bitch.

That is after all what 90% of our character development has revolved around
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>>20059075
>>20059056

Meh. He doesn't respond much even when we do ask him stuff. He's answered a few questions like 'what number was Kilgore's gauntlets' (we don't know as it hasn't been revealed) and 'what are the bullets in the op pic for? (the number of threads so far; nothing to do with the DEagle, apparently). Mostly just 'good jobs!' and the occasional write/drawfag.

Feel free to come and observe to keep people on good behavior, though. I'll warn you there isn't nearly as much conspiracy going on as you want to believe, though.
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>>20059145
NO! It's noir 40k, things do always get worse. And grim, and dark, and more noir. Stop trying to meta, you 40k summer MSQ grim derp noir fag.
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>>20059145
No it's always darkest before you get your skull ventilated is how it applies to noir.

That's why you try your hardest to slow down the darkening and your inevitable failure is entertaining
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>>20059114
She's fucking traumatized, dude! Nine-tenths of her social circle was turned to chunky salsa less than 24 hours ago WHILE SHE WATCHED, the only person she knew to trust fucking vanished and eventually drunk-called her from the middle of fucking someone else, from what she could hear.

I mean, we lose track of time because, you know, threads, but this all JUST HAPPENED.
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>>20059176
That has been explained already in this thread repeatedly.
They are just too fucking stupid to understand it because "characters in my GRIMDERP wankery don't let things like their friends dying get to them"
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>>20059162
I'm a bit worried because Deculture has actually, at least from what I've come to understand, sanctioned that pretty poorly written fan fic.
Is the write his friend IRL, or did he just feel nice that day?
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>>20058936

Again, you are projecting what you think everyone wants from this onto what they are actually arguing for. While there are a small number of people who genuinely dislike Iori but all the suggestions fit our current IC mindset. To suggest that Deculture completely derailed all our current character development over this is pretty insulting actually.

When people talk about making this quest more Noir what they mean is more realistic interacting to what we've always been like, even at the start of the thread we're told we aren't good in social situations. We turned down help, we explained what we wanted to say (and mostly agreed on) badly in character and then stuck with it. The fact we feel bad is a testament to our characters growth, but hey go figure, characters make mistakes too (through people might not want us to).

Point is, most of the arguments against Iori and for Iori are well reasoned, the way you dismiss them as grim dark faggots is just more of what's wrong in this thread. People like you trying to dictate that only one action here was in following with our character when practically ALL OF THEM are put into context by a competent GM.

So if you don't trust Deculture to make this work, maybe find another quest.
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>>20059203
Apparently not his friend because he asked in thread and then through email I think
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>>20059176
Ho boy! We were there! We're the ones that saved her ungrateful ass from the giant demon! That's the second time we've saved her!

Instead of, you know, being grateful she decided that we deserve the cold shoulder for saving her!
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>>20059226
I'm really impressed how well you manage to get IC for an emotionally damaged teenager.

Bravo!
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>>20059209
I trust Deculture I just don't trust you or anyone else in this thread defending being a fucking retard.

But I have already said I am leaving if it doesn't get any better. I dare say quite a few people who were here from the start will leave too because we have shown that while we are broken we aren't socially retarded and all we have done is be socially retarded since roughly thread 14 and apparently that is in character because you have all pushed it so much that it became true.
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>>20059106

That is good to hear actually. It did worry me, but I wasn't really sure who is who. Though the dude who popped in at one point to say he was "gm endorsed" could not have been trying harder to attention whore.
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>>20059106
What about the 54?
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>>20059226
We save her. What do we do after that? Completely ignore her and call her while apparently fucking another girl.
And then we are surprised when we get the cold shoulder.
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>>20059240
Guess what, we're not Iori! We the tired magic girl who just saved someone again. Then was slapped in the face by that person!

Everyone seem to forget we just saved an enemy magic girl too. If we were so cold hearted and grimdark we'd have kill her.
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>>20059240
Not sure if trolling.

She isn't being ungrateful, she feels betrayed because we've been nice enough that she thinks Chiaki reciprocates her affection, and then we gave Midori's goddamn soul a blowjob with her on the line.
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>>20059258
Actually, I was just explaining why I was at it again, after deciding to stop, was all.

>>20059106
Hey, now, you got me all wrong. I wasn't doing anything like that which you seem to think I was.
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>>20059037

>Full retard option.

I agreed with the idea of only apologising for not calling her. I wanted us to be nicer about it, but we're not married to Iori and we shouldn't be encouraging the idea we're in a relationship.

Now we fucked up by being so blunt, but going back on the decision would have been worse. The best option is to rebuild from the ground up into a healthy relationship.

Not really seeing how this whole thing is people purposefully fucking things up. We had good reasons to do what we did. Those actions were then played out to our abilities and we sort of messed up, it's not the end of the world, but I don't get why we have to perfectly navigate the quest.

They weren't bad options and made sense within the context of what happened to us. Tired of people ignoring the idea that all our decisions can be reasoned in character and distancing ourselves isn't only linked to breaking from Iori entirely, half of us just want to fix the relationship from the broken mess it's currently at.

So how about we stop with the 'your choice is attempting to ruin things for everyone'. It wouldn't be there if it was.
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>>20059319
No we're not her but we might occasionally try to imagine how other people view the world. That's what's known as 'empathy', and it's widely considered to be an important component of social interaction.
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>>20059319
Yes and that's because no one thought that we might be getting too close to her and freaked out because we need to be more pathetic than the average /v/irgin when it came to handling complex things like feelings and we were trying to be a better person. That has seemingly gone right out the window now because "oh no emotions other than rage are bad"
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>>20059255

If you don't understand what I'm saying. Leave already. You are the problem with this quest and people like you who think every 'wrong' action will ruin it.
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>>20059356
I would have gladly talked with her to see how she felt. But not through a third party.
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>>20059354
It was pretty clear that it was the fucking stupid choice from the moment it was presented.

Everything in decultures post was leaning towards "you guys shouldn't be fucking dense here" and everyone leapt at the chance to be stupid.

The chance to fail is as important as the chance to succeed but when en masse people go for it when there is everything saying they shouldn't? Then it is people going for the "let's fuck everything up because I want to" choice
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>>20059384
There is a time when you can go for the "wrong" option and the time when you shouldn't.

This was so clearly in the shouldn't category that it wasn't funny.

But don't worry, chucklefucks like you have pretty much ensured anything I enjoyed from this is long dead so I will be gone. Enjoy your circle jerk of idiocy and grimderp
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>>20059396
>" Doing so would render everything else you've said moot. There has to be a line set, right now, and while it's regrettable, it has to be done now.

>"and it's then that you feel the strangest compulsion to do someting about it. You're not too sure what you would do, but you're pretty sure it involves hugging

easily supports both sides. "draw the line" is for the people who wanted to break off and "you're pretty sure it involves hugging" was for the people who wanted to make up.


Stop pretending the DM is magically on your side.
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>>20059387
You, sir, try my patience.

You don't make someone get over their problems by yelling at them "HEY DUDE GET OVER YOUR PROBLEMS." That actually makes things worse, interestingly. Just because we didn't actually betray her doesn't mean that she won't feel betrayed, and people who feel betrayed do irrational things like fob off the person they're mad at onto their new friend so they don't have to feel hurt again.
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>>20059396
>>20059427

This is why I posted the "Chiaki's fate is in the players hands!" twit.

Because he's perfectly fine with giving us enough rope to hang ourselves.

We just need to make sure that we want to go that route before making pretty bowties on support beams.
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>>20059427
fare ye well, dickbutt
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>>20059354
>So how about we stop with the 'your choice is attempting to ruin things for everyone'. It wouldn't be there if it was.
But if choices have consequences, and some of those consequences are undesirable, such as character death, are you saying that Deculture will never give us a choice that won't fuck us over or kill our character?
Because that doesn't seem to be the way that Deculture runs things.
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>>20059441
I am not pretending anything beyond Deculture implying that we should probably think before we answer which was clearly something that the vast majority of this thread didn't do in the least.

And if they did then I can safely say that none of you should ever try and have a relationship beyond acquaintance
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>>20059396
And this is what is ruining the thread, goddamn aspie perfectionists whining when things don't go happy wonderland mode.

Chiaki isn't perfect. Doesn't need to be. Doesn't have to be. Wrong choices are okay. You may not like them. Other people won't like other choices you have supported. So please stop whining about them.
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>>20059447
I wouldn't have voted to yell at her. I would have voted to listen. I'm just not going to talk to her though someone else. Why are you mad with me?
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>>20059481
There is a not so fine line between bad and even the fucking DM is telling you that this is stupid for ideas.

Being mad that people willfully ignored it is better than being mad that someone wants to actually think before going for the "give no fucks I am awesome" option
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>>20059461
He's not saying that.

What he's saying is, in his opinion, nobody is making suggestions on the quest with malice aforethought and the intent to ruin everyone else's fun.

I find him somewhat naively optimistic, but i do agree with the point that we should maybe try to make our 200-post shitstorms with a bit fewer personal attacks.
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>>20059358

I'm starting to notice people haven't actually read most of the 100 post shitfest that happened before Deculture posted the choice. We got a pretty good balance of the whole thing in the end, not completely in line with the end decision people started to agree on, but roughly approximating the idea based on our poor social skills (which were stated at the start of the fucking thread).

Maybe a small portion of people are actively trying to get rid of Iori, most people just want to set the situation straight and draw a line. We're mostly getting moderate decisions made. Insulting people who want to deal with this professionally is pretty immature, only a small number of people are even suggesting complete isolation, but the idea of getting some breathing room isn't a bad idea. She's been getting very clingy, it's not good for either of us. Better to have a more normal relationship instead of a twisted one.

Now I'm tired of people getting upset over supposed 'intent' of questers. This works both ways and I'd rather we just make our points over the merits of the decision. I don't think there were that many people voting for this outcome who did it for retarded reasons. I think you guys are just mad it didn't go how you wanted it.
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In all honesty, the worst part is all the screaming and accusing that goes on. Having differing points of views and debating which choice is the best is great. But I wish that people wouldn't degenerate into name-calling and all that. It's clear that a lot of people feel strongly about what goes on in here, but there's no need to get on the rage-train and start shit up.
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>>20059500
I'm not mad at you. Slightly peeved by how you seem to miss my point, perhaps.

What you want, couldn't happen. We fucked it up four threads ago. There's no way we could actually have a meaningful conversation with her without playing her game first for a while, because she's emotionally made of glass right now.
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>>20059510
>There is a not so fine line between bad and even the fucking DM is telling you that this is stupid for ideas.
I don't think a character's opinion counts as the ST's opinion
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>>20059559
All that is annoying me is that people are willfully ignoring the point of view that Iori has in that she is so fragile right now because her friends dying all around her, the one person she thinks will protect her suddenly being a bitch and there being no clear cause for it thinking that what we did was a good choice.

We are terrible with people skills because we are broken not because we have spaghetti issues every time we speak to someone, we managed to do very well while still mostly grunting at people. Now we actually are more eloquent than we have been in a while and it is to basically alienate our principal from the one person she felt she could trust above all others.
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>>20059568
I am not willing to play her game. We played it anyway, giving her an explanation like a scolded rat though her friend. When she can talk to us like we're equals, I'll be happy to listen.

Until then, it's "thank misaka for saving our fucking bacon again" party #2. Maybe getting the fangirl to calm damn a bit too.
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>>20059396

Not really, though please do tell me what the GM actually thought and not what some NPC thought based on their own sensibilities.

Some of us don't think these were terrible options. Perhaps they aren't 'optimal' solutions but they fit what we're trying to roleplay. Sometimes more people want to be nice and attempt social side of our emerging personality, that's fine and when the concensus is to do that then we have to accept it.

Then some people reasonably want to try and be more profession, they feel we've gotten too deep with Iori and at the very least needed to redefine our position. Nothing is broken beyond all doubt, later choices can come back to it, but I think that sticking to this is better then trying to run back and make our we're sorry (after we mind raped the girl who almost got her hurt). We're taking control and it does fit Chiaki's personality so far.

People have thrown around the idea that we're throwing away character development. Climb a wall of dicks. This is part of her character too, sometimes making bad decisions (we might not even see them as bad) is part of that. Our character is determined by our choices and so far Deculture has done a good job of putting it in context.

Now sure, you might get a vibe of 'oh consquences' but I think there is nothing wrong with that. We made our bed, we lie in it. We don't try and snivel back now we've been warned. That's freedom.

Now I'm not saying you have to accept it was a good decision. What I want is for you guys to stop assuming bad faith on MOST THE QUEST. I'm pretty sure if we were destroying the quest even Deculture would stop and say OOC. Everything up to now fits the plot we've got. Let's run with it and stop whining.
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>>20059639
I'm not willing to be part of the "she's angry for perfectly good reasons but fuck her anyway" camp.

Hopefully this doesn't blow up in our face by the time we get back.
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>>20059639
I hope for the sake of whoever would find you attractive that you never end up in a relationship.
You obviously have no capability to empathize with people
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>>20059639
This is what you keep saying that's rustling mah jimmies.

If you're having a fight with someone, you can't fix the relationship by detaching until the other person can "be reasonable" or "talk to us like we're equal". You just can't, real people don't work that way, and you only make the other person worse if you try to do it.

It's not a childish game, it's her pathetic attempt at a defence against getting stabbed in the goddamn heart again.

tl;dr:
Feels, Iori is trapped in a glass case of emotions.
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>>20059705
Ok, maybe 'fuck her' was too strong. Maybe 'I don't want to listen right now' camp.

Either way, hopefully this doesn't turn bad when we get back. This could go much worse then her never wanting to talk to us again in this setting.
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>>20059729
Yeah, we have to kill her.

I want to say that'd help, but then people would bandwagon onto the next most popular girl and the shitstorm would brew again.
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>>20059704
Deculture has shown he is willing to give us enough rope to hang ourselves with and thanks to
>>20059639 and previous posts I am not seeing much of a professional front for the reasons people chose the options they did

Redefining our relationship is fine but doing it at the proper time and under the proper circumstances is as important as what we say when we do it
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That said, SOMEONE was laying out pancakes for us, perfectly knowing that we like them. They molded their breakfast around our needs, here.

I honestly think she's still angry but is trying to make up for it, and was having Garcia talk for her because she was afraid she was going to blow up at us.

Both Garcia and Fabolia think we handled it badly, though. I get the impression that they were both pulling for us to make up and not be pissed at each other.
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>>20059763
>next most popular girl and the shitstorm would brew again.
That'll be Misaka then.
She's already gotten possessed once, maybe the second time is when we put a bullet in her head.
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>>20059773
I would have responded better to her fighting with us then going through another person.

At least then I'd have her her thoughts, not the mangled interpretations of Richie Rich.
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>>20059716
>>20059719

Not that poster, but I've got to ask, for all your talk of empathy, why can't you empathise with Chiaki? Right now, a bunch of us think that she's in no state to try and fix things. She's gone through shit too, so she's handling it by taking control, wherever she can. I voted for her to act the way she did, and if it means that we've permanently lost Iori as a friend? Hell, if we lose Mami too, because she decides we're beyond saving, and Kyouko too? I won't be happy, by no means, but I will be satisfied, because that's the choice we went with. Consequences are important, so if there are negative ones, I'll deal.
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>>20059773
Thank fuck someone else actually paid attention.
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>>20059798
Nah, Mami is more popular.
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>>20059807
From >>20059716
Chiaki is used to this sort of situation, she has handled it and worse many times.

Iori hasn't. Put simply the very worst way of taking her world apart has occurred and now the last thread of hope she had is also gone.

Empathizing with Chiaki isn't as hard as empathizing with a non MC character who isn't under our control and actually has a personality besides what we decide she has.
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>>20059815

But shes married now. Weren't you paying attention?
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>>20059773

I think Garcia and Fabiola were assuming that things between Chiaki and Iori had been going on for a reasonable amount of time (surely for more than a week and a half!). Thus, they attempted to deal with it as rationally as they thought they could.

Things may have been a bit different had they known that the whole 'relationship' could be arguably defined as being built upon blood, trauma, corpses, and possible dependency issues.
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>>20059840
She is undetermined as of yet according to the writefag.
She could be and we are being lead to believe that is most definitely the case but she could just as easily not be.
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>>20059839
Oh, I do agree that Chiaki is in a better state at the moment. Perhaps you're right, since the only way I can argue against you is to say that the fact that Iori was threatened would make her react worse than normal, which is based entirely upon my interpretation of the character.
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>>20059807
No no man, Iori's feeling are the only ones that matter man.

We can't be angry with how our latest bloodbath went, we can't be tired of dealing with the bullshit of the golden weapon, we can't be cranky as shit because we haven't slept in a day and just got done cleaning the blood off ourselves.

Only idols are worthy of being mad.

>>20059840
that just make her death more tragic
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>>20059840
That's ONE thing I'll freely admit I've tried to ask on the Twitter feed. Just... how old is everyone? I don't mind us driving, and drinking, and never going to school, and even Mami being married or whatever.

But even in Japan it seems odd that a 16 year old would be married.
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>>20059863
It actually has been longer than a week and a half at this point. There have been a few skips of a couple of days and one of over a week which would mean it is approaching one month rather than a week and a half, three weeks minimum

Still not very long but obviously Iori has made it seem longer and that she truly does love chiaki
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>>20059626

It's generally accepted that we, as Chiaki aren't empathising well nor are we very good at socialising. Most of the posts before the 'apology' were basically saying we should apologise for not contacting her because we are friends and it was a dick move not to call her.

Deculture took this through our filter and Chiaki fell on her professional view and we got the message out that we're willing to be friends, but then made a huge point about how we're her body guard first.

Point is, we're not exactly some great social decision making machine here. Fabola even pointed it out afterwards and because we were upset we lashed out. Now it's been done though, we're sticking to it. Perhaps we can say a message to explain we really should have called her and feel bad about that. It wouldn't go against what we said much.

Things are fixable, but it's worth thinking we weren't in the best of moods either so we overlooked Iori's circumstances.

Now you guys complain that it's against her development to suddenly relapse into professionalism when we've been getting used to people, but that happens under stress sometimes. As someone said this'll test Iori's character on how dedicated she is to us.

Depending on which Chiaki you want, this was either a bad call we need to fix later, or a tough call that was a long time coming.

I think it's unreasonable to expect everyone to agree to your reasoning. Both sides have strong arguments. Resorting to insults just makes more shitstorms.

It won't be long before this likely happens from the opposite end when someone opts for romance in a arguably poor moment. Better we respect one another then fling shit everywhere like kids.
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>>20059890
Mami is 15~
Chiaki is 14~

Or around about.
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>>20059876
Murderface has been described as emotionally dead more than once.
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>>20059807
But Chiaki has actually handled nearly getting killed many times in the past, even if she doesn't remember all of them. She remembers taking all of the bad jobs, the really messy and bloody ones, ones that even Kyouko and Sayaka turned down. She handled all those with some Kong whiskey and a handful of painkillers.
That shit is her dayjob.

But friends? People that care about her? For a long while it was just Mami. And now Iori, who is trying to be a friend.
And after Kirika's retirement, we're on the ropes with Mami, though we have been able to get Kyouko as a friend.
Chiaki would be desperate to keep any friends she has, even if she feels like she doesn't deserve them, not pushing them away and causing them grief.
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>>20059907
In the anime? Yes.

But in this...? Who knows. We seem to drink a lot more then the girls in the show do, so... *shrug*
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>>20059930
Well, still not old enough to get married or heavily drink, I imagine.
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>>20059876
>No no man, Iori's feeling are the only ones that matter man.
See attached image.

I'm trying to argue a single point with one person who doesn't quite seem to grasp how emotions work, with an analysis of why Iori is acting the way she is. I'd have been completely onboard if murderface exploded at the idol for not bothering to understand us.
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>>20059906

Either way, it'll be a *smooth* ride!
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>>20059921
then how do we expect her to understand Iori again?

either we have emotions and repress and compartmentalize them very well but could still empathize with enough effort or we really are a cold blooded killer and are never going to get better.

pick one please.
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>>20059964
FUCK YOU ORZ! FUCK YOU!
We tried to be your friends, and then you fucking steal all of our shit, *pull* our people, and start flinging shit at the neighbor's house and blame us!
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>>20059719

Eh, if it's wrong then sometimes people think like that. Not really hard to get. Chiaki isn't Mami, she's not good at this touchy feely stuff but she does seem to want space.

I never asked for this. ;_;
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705 posts, people still haven't gotten on the lifeboats off this sinking ship.

this is what the titanic would have been like with 4channers, everyone fighting over who got to be left behind.
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>>20059955

It was a bit meta, but I was hoping that we'd start yelling at Fabiola and that Garcia and Iori would at least hear us being emotional. It might have given us more of a chance of fixing things later.
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>>20059929
This is a Chiaki that used to be Murderface full time.

But now is trying to fix that. She WANTS to be Chiaki. She keeps telling people to call her Chiaki. Especially after Kirika showed her where the Murderface path led.

The thing is, she's GOOD at being Murderface, because she's been doing it for so long it's what she falls back into when she gets stressed. Because Murderface doesn't feel fear. Or stress. Or conflicting emotions. It's EASY to be Murderface.

But that's not Chiaki. And that's not who Chiaki seems to want to be. And she has no practice being Chiaki. She's actually quite bad at it.

But that doesn't seem to stop her from wanting to be better at it.
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>>20059980
Eh... we deal with our feels through drink and pills?
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>>20059980
Mainly by understanding others feelings so that we can apply them to try and make ourselves less of a wreck

We have shown before we understand when we should apologize and when someone is upset hell we did it not even hours before with Sayaka and Kyoko.

And yet with the one person who she should be careful with, the one person who she would tread on eggshells because she knows how much more emotional and emotionally fragile she is we decide to throw it all out the window.
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>>20060002
If the titanic had been run by us, we'd have sunk day one, probably in a way that violates at least one law of physics.
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>>20060040
Heh yeah, we would have accidentally the ocean to make ourself sink against all probability

Warning to future readers from the archive

CTRL + F Deculture, you don't want to trawl through most of this while trying to catch up. A bit late to say that now though
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>>20059929


Didn't we just finish talking to one of our friends whose back they broke because they joined us on our mission?

Just sayian it's not as simple as making the perfect call. Now people might have made this call because they want space from Iori, or because they think it'll help in the long run, maybe they want to save Iori... it's all up there in the air.

But we can easily put all of it into context for our character. Nothing bad has happened to the quest here aside from 300+ posts complaining about what everyone else wants.

How about next time we have to discuss this, we post our decision and reasoning, then any further posts arguing we delete AFTER deculture has posted. Or just not constantly call everyone out on their 'faction' or intent.
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>>20060086
Having spoken to our friend about this very incident should have made it clear we needed to be careful with our handling of the other friends.

It would be a good idea to say why we are supporting which side though
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>>20060020

To be fair, that's not an unreasonable reaction from someone who hasn't slept in 8 hours straight and has had to deal with bloodthirsters and crazy murder harems. And having to constantly re-invent herself every so often, while not having any constants in her life aside from pills and booze and mutant cats.

I think that things will be very interesting from a narrative standpoint when the Siberia mission ends and the 'regular' workflow begins again. As some people have pointed out, there's some room for very meaningful character development and PLENTY of room for tragedy.


>>20059992

In retrospect, we should have considered the fact that they were less goofy extradimensional aliens that could offer us unique services... and more of a singular, hedonistic and chaotic entity that wants to move the entirety of itself into real space. Or that in its native universe, there were races around who made it their business to contain and deal with such entities.
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>>20060012
>She WANTS to be Chiaki.
I agree, it's just that I feel the recent choices did not show Chiaki trying hard enough to be Chiaki, rather than Murderface.

>>20060086
>Didn't we just finish talking to one of our friends whose back they broke because they joined us on our mission?
Yes we did, and we put forth as much effort as Chiaki could to make sure not to screw that up, even with Sayaka being obviously hostile.
I'm just saying that I think we could have tried to be a little more tactful, because we have some tact now. Mami lent us some.

>>20060104
>someone who hasn't slept in 8 hours straight
Actually, Chiaki did get 7 or 8 hours of sleep, and a shower, and changed into a fresh uniform.
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>>20060104
Again that is just Tuesday as far as chiaki is concerned.

On any normal person it would be understandable but we are going from a semi lich alcoholic drug addicted magical girl who is trying to be a lot better and is used to not sleeping as much as falling into a coma.

Also the Orz were just the fluffy tail done perfectly, some of us in the early threads knew that Orz weren't a good thing but they were just too useful and fun to not take.
Personally I thought they might betray us earlier but the wait made it perfect since it allowed them to rape us so thoroughly
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>>20060135
did it say we slept? Because if it didn't I just assume we drank all night and kinda dozed in our chair.
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>>20060135
Well, I DID say she was terrible at being Chiaki. She's getting practice, sure, but she still needs a lot of work.
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>>20060135

D'oh! Still, though. This is obviously something that's deep shit even for MGs.

>>20060142

You know that a DM is doing something right when you find yourself going "oh god... what have we done?" when shit hits the fan.
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>>20060209
Which I fully expect to happen here in about three threads time.
The anticipation makes it all the sweeter
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>>20060209
>"oh god... what have we done?"
Some people might complain about rubberband difficulty, in regards to the Void Engineers.
But really, it's our fault for not smacking them down when all they had were some primitive nukes when we had the chance.
Now, they've assimilated TSAB magitech and WH40k tech into their ships. And if we don't kill them all in one go, they'll just adapt and assimilate our tech as well.
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>>20060230

And I am going to love every minute of voting for the "bad" option. If this turns out right it'll be really cool character development for Chiaki. If it turns out wrong, it'll be because the factionfags have taken over entirely, at which point I won't care since I'll be quitting.
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>>20060259
I missed the threads where we dealt with them.
I don't think I would have voted any differently though, at the time they didn't really seem that big a threat.
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>>20060270
I thought you said you were quitting already? Or was that someone else?
Either way it is a win really, I am just not going to go full rage over it regardless of the result.
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>>20060270
What exactly are you defining as turning out right versus turning out wrong?
Because if it's 'Chiaki comes back to an emotionally fragile Iori, tries to rebuild their friendship', then you'll have people saying that's the wrong way to go and we need to cut all connections with Iori.
And if it turns out that Iori either dies, turns into a puella, or simply doesn't want to restore her friendship with Iori, then there will be others who will say that their prediction that this was a bad option have been vindicated.
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>>20060300
I'm fairly sure this is the first time I've mentioned leaving. I really don't want to since I do love the quest, but I guess I'll have to see how it turns out. And I hate the times when I miss it because it seems like I need to be there to argue against both the waifuharemshipping crowd as well as the grimderpisbestderp crowds.
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>>20060300
>Either way it is a win really, I am just not going to go full rage over it regardless of the result.
If you set your bar so low that simply moving the plot forward is considered a win, or that actions have consequences, then it's pretty easy to win, isn't it?

It just seems that there's little motivation to achieve success or avoid failure if you are unconcerned with the result as long as there is a result.
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>>20060360
My suggestion is just to go into sup/tg/, hit Ctrl + F, and just read every Deculture post and hit linked posts, ignoring everything on the way down.

It's much less rocky once Deculture has filtered it for us.
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>>20060344

Oh, sorry. Ummm, I guess my opinion of the best option is that we come back, Iori is rather pissed at us, but we then try and build a more positive relationship, either friendly or romantic. Though the glass half full version of no one being happy is that no matter what happens at least someone will be happy. So long as Deculture puts up with us. Oh dear.
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>>20060405
You know what, let's call that the win condition.

"Deculture continues to think of 100-post arguments as a compliment instead of a chore."
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>>20060376
It certainly makes things a lot more enjoyable.

>>20060360
Ah ok thought you were someone else who said he was quitting earlier on.
Good luck with trying to rein in either side, I doubt it will actually ever work.
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OI! I never said any of that crap about the twitter! I admitted that I didn't know who was who, and I backed down when someone explained!
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>>20060471

Seems you took me up on the offer to check it out.

Sorry, just making fun. No hard feelings?

>Also, apparently we're dealing with 17-18 year old magical girls, not the 14-15 year old versions from the show.
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>>20060455
After years of being the only organised one in my rpg group, I've learned to enjoy butting my head against the wall. It sorta comes with the territory.
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>>20060492
So we're still illegal anyway, seeing as the legal drinking age in Japan is 20.
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>>20060492
Oh, I've been stalking you guys for a while now really. Oh, and definitely hard feelings. You've ruined my entire day. Aha, that's what your conspiracy was about all along!

Though it's awesome you got an answer on the age question. Nothing major, but it's been bugging a few people.
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>>20060519
I don't tweet. Someone please tell Dee why some people were tweaking about the twitterball.

"@magicalgirlnoir You okayed Logic on twitter, and he told the thread second-hand. People got mad without the full picture, per usual."

"@magicalgirlnoir Also, some anons feel that the rogue trader stories aren't up to par, and disdain their canonicity."

are my opinions.
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>>20060636
Are you asking for one of us to tweet those for you?
Because I could certainly do that.
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>>20060695
Yeah, pretty much
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>>20060710
Done and done.
I shall report back with any response.
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>>20060746
Thanks mate
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>get here after thread

goddammit.
"Iori. That attack in the ballroom? Where Lance killed all those people? Barely escaping with my life? I do that shit on a weekly basis. My nickname, Murderface? I EARNED that. I'm not a good person, Iori, and you shouldn't pretend that I am."

That's what I would've written in.
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>>20060746
Erm. You might mention that those are a commited anon trying to apologize somewhat for and explain the hivemind's snappishness.
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>>20060757
>"@magicalgirlnoir You okayed Logic on twitter, and he told the thread second-hand. People got mad without the full picture, per usual."
>@CallMeLogic I didn't think I'd need to make an announcement for it D: I just didn't mind it at all!

>"@magicalgirlnoir Also, some anons feel that the rogue trader stories aren't up to par, and disdain their canonicity."
>@CallMeLogic Well, that, I'm trying to talk to the person responsible and see what can be done.

Yes, CallMeLogic is me.

>>20060800
Clarity shall be conveyed.
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Reading this thread after the fact it is the first thread that leaves me depressed for the future of this quest. I don't mind Chiaki's actions and I think they can turn out good for the story but the impression I get of the mentality of a lot of voters does dampen my optimism.

It's much the same as I'm seeing in SWQ which I'm reading up on in the archives, the harsh kneejerk reactions the likes of "She's being irrational: Fuck her with a rake.". This is not only on behalf of the people who want to distance MC from Iori, I'm just too drunk to bother coming up with examples for every side.

am I the only one who doesn't care about my specific preferences and just want a good story? Fuck! every quest turns into preference-wars.
I have faith in Deculture, he's impressed me with his ability to make a compelling story out of the normal ADHD nature of quest votes but I know I won't be comfortable about this until I've gotten a feel for how he handles this in the next thread.

I love you, /tg/, and I hate you so very, very much.
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>>20060817
Got to say, saging at this point does seem a bit redundant...
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>>20060817
Yep same problem and maybe the same people.
Not that either side is better than the other really.
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>>20060817
It's waifu-wars. SWQ was full of it. Multiple threads where Planefag made two or three posts and the rest was full of bitching.

Shitstorms of epic proportions. People really care about the fictional characters their fictional characters get involved with.
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>>20060817
>am I the only one who doesn't care about my specific preferences and just want a good story
If that's all you want, then just read a book.
The fact that a quest, just like any other PnP game, has choices, means that players have to choose and create the story along the way.
Of course preferences are going to come up; otherwise, why make a choice?
And then some people will want to succeed while going for a goal, while others will just want to pick the most disastrous choice just to see what happens.


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