>>19941696
Architecture: Mess Hall, Small Armory, Refitted Barracks, Water Pipeway, Professional Laboratory, Clean Water Cistern, Great Machine Shop, Large Yard, Apartments, Indoor Plumbing, Recycler

Weapons: Suppressed Pistols, Upgraded Scoped Suppressed Assault Rifles, Grenades, Lots of Ammo, High-powered Anti-material Rifles, Mortars, One Artillery Cannon, Cure Darts, Tranq Darts, Heavy Machine Guns

Technology: Handheld Computers, Professional Chemistry Suite, Surplus Modified Salient Blue, Surplus Modified Salient Red, Ammunition Press, Alcohol Still, Ten Motorcycles, Carts, Tanker Carts, Professional Medical Suite, Maximum-Security Specimen Storage, Night Vision Goggles, Rage Cure, Scout Helicopter, Large Biofuel Stills, Speed Boats, Surplus Modified Salient Yellow, Radio Tower, Radar Dish, Salient Pills

Defenses: Reinforced Buildings, Thick Doors with Locks, Watchtower, Chain Link-Reinforced Concrete Wall, Sandbags, Crude Camouflage Cloaks, Trip Wire Grenade Traps, Surplus Dogs, Upgraded Combat Hummers, Simple City Bunkers, Three Helicopters, Outer Yard Wall, Basic Airport Fortifications, Combat Armor, Surplus Horses, Naval Wall

Power: Tiny Nuclear Generator

Mutations: Base, Fast Recovery, Normalized Fertility, Strength, Large (20%), Improved Focus, Improved Reaction, Improved Coordination, Alpha Pheromones

-----

A. Scavenge for food.
B. Try to improve the base.
C. Try to improve weapons.
D. Research technology.
E. Pursue new mutations.
F. Explore in a direction.
G. Scavenge for raw materials.
H. Your choice.

>>19941698
Scavenge. We've got a lot of projects in the queue and (almost) no materials to do them with.

Running this again so soon? What a champ.

Another vote for scavenging materials.

Voting for scavenging too.

Set us up an IRC channel as well: http://mibbit.com/?channel=%23starguard&server=rizon.mibbit.org

G.

Get materials.

>anyone want to explain the setting?

rolled 60 = 60

Scavenge!

Got gypsie in captcha, so lets scavenge like champions!

>>19941696
Oh, and the first nine threads:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Star Guard
I always forget to post that in the OP.

Scavenging ho!

>>19941789
Actually, you've remembered it thus far.

G

Lets get some scavenging going, how else we gonna get our infrastcuure going?

The Star Guard decides to try to put together some materials for continued projects. They trade, recycle, and scavenge with humvees and carts, and through their many efforts, they have quite a stockpile collected by month's end.

Population: 560
Food: Plentiful
Water: Above Average
Materials: Surplus
Fuel: Surplus
Test Subjects: Above Average

>>19941879
Architecture: Mess Hall, Small Armory, Refitted Barracks, Water Pipeway, Professional Laboratory, Clean Water Cistern, Great Machine Shop, Large Yard, Apartments, Indoor Plumbing, Recycler

Weapons: Suppressed Pistols, Upgraded Scoped Suppressed Assault Rifles, Grenades, Lots of Ammo, High-powered Anti-material Rifles, Mortars, One Artillery Cannon, Cure Darts, Tranq Darts, Heavy Machine Guns

Technology: Handheld Computers, Professional Chemistry Suite, Surplus Modified Salient Blue, Surplus Modified Salient Red, Ammunition Press, Alcohol Still, Ten Motorcycles, Carts, Tanker Carts, Professional Medical Suite, Maximum-Security Specimen Storage, Night Vision Goggles, Rage Cure, Scout Helicopter, Large Biofuel Stills, Speed Boats, Surplus Modified Salient Yellow, Radio Tower, Radar Dish, Salient Pills

Defenses: Reinforced Buildings, Thick Doors with Locks, Watchtower, Chain Link-Reinforced Concrete Wall, Sandbags, Crude Camouflage Cloaks, Trip Wire Grenade Traps, Surplus Dogs, Upgraded Combat Hummers, Simple City Bunkers, Three Helicopters, Outer Yard Wall, Basic Airport Fortifications, Combat Armor, Surplus Horses, Naval Wall

Power: Tiny Nuclear Generator

Mutations: Base, Fast Recovery, Normalized Fertility, Strength, Large (20%), Improved Focus, Improved Reaction, Improved Coordination, Alpha Pheromones

-----

A. Scavenge for food.
B. Try to improve the base.
C. Try to improve weapons.
D. Research technology.
E. Pursue new mutations.
F. Explore in a direction.
G. Scavenge for raw materials.
H. Your choice.

>>19941879
Can we finally fix one of the planes?

Either:
Investigate the tower in the forest
Investigate the northern remnant
Investigate with the northern vault
or Investigate the southern factory

Also keep working on the pills for the remnant we already know - I want 3D printers

>>19941900
Let's fix one of the planes, we've been putting that of for (in game) month already.

>>19941915
*months

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Im sorry, I can't take this seriously, I saw that picture and thought of one of those female reproductive organ diagrams

Pic related

lets get some antiaging pills going. They'll make a great trade item.

rolled 73 = 73

>>19941922

I agree, one of them could come in handy.

Lets fix a plane!

Produce the pills for the megocorp remant, we need that technology.

>>19941892
We've already been over this. We secure our home enviroment before expanding our horizons.

I say we expand the living quarters for our people, then next turn the water generator we were talking about last thread and then upgrade the machine shop to be capable of building vehicles at a faster rate.

>>19941927
Me too. :(

>>19941927
O.....kay?
>>19941929
Yeah, I suppouse we could trade with the Corp.

But..but planes!

>>19941929
Let's hold off on that, yeah, Trot? We've already got the Salient White pills on order and there are other, more conventional trade goods we can pursue.

>>19941892

We've kinda already got plenty to explore and get working on. The main advantage the plane would give us (apart from letting us perform near constant aerial exploration due to lower fuel use) is the ability to explore the mountains.

I'm not opposed to the idea I'd just rather we explore and secure more of what we already have.

F - Explore factory

>>19941946
But the Corp wanted them in exchange for High-tech stuff that we can't produce and/or find anywhere else.
We should play nice with them, they could be a very, very useful ally

>>19941952
Explore the factory.

Let's do this. Get some hella-sick robots.

OP! Can we get a sitrep from our out-of-region fellow guards and find out if any of the other airbases have working runways that are safe to use?

>That should be a non-action, right? Since all it really needs is a radioman, and our one-armed Guardsman from way back when isn't really useful for patrolling or manual labor.

Pills for megacorp

rolled 10 = 10

>>19941946
thats what the pills are right? no age, no poison, no rads. all the positive effects without the combat advantages. Or did I read the corps requests wrong?

>>19941961
They wanted the SALIENT WHITE pills, which I said we already have on order. Not anti-aging.

>>19941990
Pretty much what you said, if I remember correctly

Lets not mess with the things in the north until we can put them down.

How you ask?

With fucking CANNONS!

Just messing ;p

Keep working on the salient pills

>>19941990
They want just the environmental resistance.

>>19941975
Sure. The retroviral cultures are helping out in the regions to which they were brought, but many of those Guard bases are not nearly so safe and developed as the one in Star City is now. Most of the cities with Gold Star airbases have intact runways.

First things first, take care of the megocorp order, theyve been on hold for a couple of minths now, not to mention the years in front of that, theyre probably getting a bit stir crazy

>>19942027
Are the runways safe for us to land on? If they are, then fixing up a plane and visiting our Gold Star brethren is a viable strategy.

I'm more than willing to support planes once we get a 3d printer from the megacorp.

OP how many more turns of work before we get the salient pills finished?

the effects are anti-rads, anti- disease. There is nasty withdrawal though.
>The one drawback, as shown in rat test subjects, is that taking the pills for many days in a row causes the body to start building up a dependence on the chemicals in their system. A week is enough to cause a nasty withdrawal once stopped. A month is enough to risk serious, permanent damage unless weaned off of it slowly.

The scientists are willing to call it a mixed success and list the recommended consumption pattern as three days of taking it followed by one of detoxing.

>>19942072
Well, starting with a base of the Normalized Fertility Blue, you would need to then remove Toughness and No Aging, so two turns of work.

>>19942100

Why not use salient blue classic as a base?

I know they might consider it an attempt to poison them but would it work?

>>19942078
Would another turn working on them fix that? If not then we should tell the Megacorp in advance.

>>19942072
We've already researched it, so only one more turn to mass produce. But if we can I think we should try to get rid of the addition aspect. It may have it's uses but that's basically holding the people we get addicted to it hostage, which is pretty close to enslavement.

Well we dont nessicarily need to remove the no aging, keep it as a bonus, just remove toughness

>>19942122
Yes. If you did that, the Salient White Pills would double as a potent contraceptive.

>>19942130
I doubt it. But yes, we should warn the corp about the addictiveness.

We have not researched it fully - we simply researched the feasibility of a Salient variant in pill form. We still have to produce the White variant and then pillform it.

>>19942170
Balls, this is me, lost my trip posting in not-this-thread.

>>19942130

I think it was already said in the last thread that the pills were as good as they were going to get.

Yes we should tell them about the effects and the recommended dose schedule.

>>19942170
The megacorp hasn't done anything or given us any reason to view them with hostility. We shouldn't give them a pill that will obviously end in us having either total control over them (controlling the source) and/or making them essentially infertile.

>>19942191
>>19942170

Should we do this or not then?

>>19942195
We know we can reverse the infertility effect, we did it ourselves earlier on. And I don't think OP said the addiction was irremovable.

>>19942211

Yeah actually i agree, i'm the guy that originally proposed the idea.
In retrospect it really would go against the star laws.

>>19942222
I suppose that depends on whether you think the megacorp would look at the contraceptive as an added bonus or an act of sabotage.

Can't they just produce copies of the pills anyway? I don't think we're going to be able to hold that over them.

Let's get that lie detector thing going.

If we trade pills with the megacorp, we should expect that they will reverse-engineer them, so we better get something really useful, like a 3d-printer with some blueprints.

As for everyone saying that they have been playing straight so far, it is because we have them by the balls. The suits are stuck in ther precious tower and cant get out without our help.

We cannot count on beeing in such a good position once we allow them moblity, I say that we wait with the trading, even if it is something extremely useful like the 3d-printer, until we have a hang off how we are going to exploit the item.

All right. Vote to spend the turns to produce Salient White.

We could market it as a two in one package. Or say they are two different pills and sell them at different rates.
CAPITALISM!
FORWARD THE PILLS SCIENCE GUY!

>>19942273
+1

Check out the factory

Also, reposting this: http://mibbit.com/?channel=%23starguard&server=rizon.mibbit.org

>>19942272
Jesus, you're paranoid. They're playing it straight because they have no reason not to. They'll profit FAR MORE by playing by the Star Laws than by dicking people over.

Mostly because the only penalty we have is "destroy."

Voting for salient pills and a timeskip until there done.
We should certainly trade for the 3d printer and blueprints so we can make more printers and put them at each base we have.

>>19942271
>>Can't they just produce copies of the pills anyway? I don't think we're going to be able to hold that over them.

This. They obviously have, or at least the means of making copies. So we may as well tell them how to make the Salient White pills (with no infertility) if we don't want to hold it over them.

How about we explore the factory or the other remnant? Or even the Vault?

>>19942335
This. They obviously have, or at least the means of making copies. So we may as well tell them how to make the Salient White pills (with no infertility) if we don't want to hold it over them.

Contract. See last thread.

>>19942325
On that note, are they offering AutoCad software? It's a bitch to use, but it's WYSIWYG and can produce basic schematics for a 3d Printer.

>>19942273

Another vote from me.

The Guard spends the turn working towards producing a product that can be easily marketed to the corporation. The scientists remove the segments that keep people young, like the parts that toggle the production of telomerase. They're one step closer to having a Blue formula that can be used to make the environmental protection pills.

Population: 560
Food: Plentiful
Water: Above Average
Materials: Surplus
Fuel: Surplus
Test Subjects: Above Average

>>19942365
Architecture: Mess Hall, Small Armory, Refitted Barracks, Water Pipeway, Professional Laboratory, Clean Water Cistern, Great Machine Shop, Large Yard, Apartments, Indoor Plumbing, Recycler

Weapons: Suppressed Pistols, Upgraded Scoped Suppressed Assault Rifles, Grenades, Lots of Ammo, High-powered Anti-material Rifles, Mortars, One Artillery Cannon, Cure Darts, Tranq Darts, Heavy Machine Guns

Technology: Handheld Computers, Professional Chemistry Suite, Surplus Modified Salient Blue, Surplus Modified Salient Red, Ammunition Press, Alcohol Still, Ten Motorcycles, Carts, Tanker Carts, Professional Medical Suite, Maximum-Security Specimen Storage, Night Vision Goggles, Rage Cure, Scout Helicopter, Large Biofuel Stills, Speed Boats, Surplus Modified Salient Yellow, Radio Tower, Radar Dish, Salient Pills

Defenses: Reinforced Buildings, Thick Doors with Locks, Watchtower, Chain Link-Reinforced Concrete Wall, Sandbags, Crude Camouflage Cloaks, Trip Wire Grenade Traps, Surplus Dogs, Upgraded Combat Hummers, Simple City Bunkers, Three Helicopters, Outer Yard Wall, Basic Airport Fortifications, Combat Armor, Surplus Horses, Naval Wall

Power: Tiny Nuclear Generator

Mutations: Base, Fast Recovery, Normalized Fertility, Strength, Large (20%), Improved Focus, Improved Reaction, Improved Coordination, Alpha Pheromones

-----

A. Scavenge for food.
B. Try to improve the base.
C. Try to improve weapons.
D. Research technology.
E. Pursue new mutations.
F. Explore in a direction.
G. Scavenge for raw materials.
H. Your choice.

>>19942273
agreed, lets do this.

>>19942321

it is not paranoia if you're right.

This is a game of power, laws and political power grows out of the muzzle of a gun. The megacorp is an entity that might rival us in every way except for numbers.

If their only goal is profit, like 1700th century mercantilism, then genocide and slavery is not off the list of options.

>>19942365
Spend a second turn developing Salient White.

>>19942386

This I agree

By the way, OP, what is our government? Is it just Colonel Whitcomb calling the shots? If so is he viewed as hero and competent commander, or merely the boss upstairs?
Are there officers in line should Whitcomb die? Would they be accepted by their peers and troops?

Are we in some kind of communist collective thing right now, where people are given their rations, then go off the job they're most competent at? Or do we have some kind of script for the troops to buy things they want like a knife made in the machine shop, or extra food from the granary?

>>19942365
I thought we were going to keep the anti-aging bonus? That would make the corporate fellas quite happy.
Can we put the effect back in as a non-action?

Misc. Actions:
1. Scouting: Even though we're probably one of the best organized armed forces, we explored very little of the map. (3-5 months)
2. Trading
3. Go Redbull curing on the encampments. (4 known locations/4 months))
4. Make a program for facial recognition.
5. Try to appease the tribals and try to get them out of the hospital to somewhere without Redbulls.
6. By the start of the next year, send new salient samples and any schematics/tech to our allied bases.
7. Contact the other Remnants.

Mutation Upgrades:
1. Salient Red 2-A to make lobotomized Dire Sheep that won't harm us.
2. Salient Turquoise 2-A to increase the size of our dogs as additional mounts. Leave say, 25% of the dogs in their current size for scout purposes.
3. Shortened Lifepsan (in the hours) & Extreme Appetire for Salient Red 2-B, which we'd use for Hell Rats.
4. Adrenaline rush for improved combat performance.
5. Reduced Sleep for improved productivity.
6. Reduced Calorie Intake so we can eat less food.
7. Improved Intelligence.
8. Improved eyesight
9. Improved running speed/stamina (this will benefit us greatly)

Military Technology Upgrades:
1. Convert our ammo to AP. The good thing is that they'd still be subsonic. (This is if we want to fight Redbulls).
2. Create armor for the dogs and horses. Rifle/stab plate armor inserted in kevlar would be ideal.
3. Create higher-caliber rifles w/ammo carriers for the Hulks.
4. Create HMGs and mount them on our scout copters.
5. Repair/uparmor the Trucks. We can use these to ferry dogs or rats.
6. For the Dolphin, put two full-auto, belt fed HMGs on them, or one HMG and one grenade machine gun.
7. Mount twin-linked HMGs on the prop planes and repair them.
8. Put the naval warship cannons on our bases and produce ammo for them.
9. Develop flamethrowers to combat bees for when we want to go to the mountains or forest.

>>19942424

I think the idea was to only give them as little as possible.
Especially since the pills are addictive.

>>19942418
Pretty sure we still stick to a military command. So if the colonel dies, the spot becomes open.

How about we tell the MegaCorps about what we want to trade before manufacturing the Pills? We may end up wasting a month otherwise.

Lets get the lie detector app done so we can also effectively interact with the other remnants.

Consesus on IRC says keep working on the pills.

>>19942418
I think the Star Guard is, and has been for the past 29 years, a military operation with a leadership structure closely resembling the current US hierarchy.
I'm very much against introducing democracy, communism or ANY other political movements into our movement.

>>19942424
They asked for "just the environmental resistances." The anti-aging effects would be more expensive, and still addictive to boot.

>>19942468
The current working proposal on IRC is to trade them a month's supply at a time for a set number of people, and make it an ongoing transaction.

>>19942499
>>19942468

But why are we trying to fuck them over? Maybe people here don't like corporations in general, but these guys have done absolutely nothing to draw our ire. Even more importantly, they have no reason to.

>>19942558
WE're not trying to fuck them over. We're trying to maintain a trade advantage, something they clearly stated up front that they understand and even expect from us.

>>19942418
It's the Colonel on top and chain of command has been preserved.

>>19942558
Whilst we don't dislike them, we don't trust them, as we haven't interacted with them much. Also, as we know from resident evil, corporations are evil and secret agendas.

Whilst they would enjoy the age stuff, it is one more thing they will reverse engineer from the pill that they wouldn't buy from us later when we do eventually make them into pills for profit.

We are trying to out profit the megacorp in essence.

>>19942365
Also, As a Non-Action: give half of our horses Salient Purple.

>>19942648
You guys already have.

we can make youth drugs later. Lets just finish up salient white and have done with it. when we REALLY want something from the corps we'll develop some antiaging drugs and offer them immortality in a pill.

>>19942648
Agreed. Then Hulks could travel fast without having to cram into the humvees or copters. In broken ground they could even be faster, so long as they don't break their leg (which they would recover from in a week or less due to that weird water we found in the first 6 months)

rolled 8 = 8

F: Lets visit the factory!

rolled 26 = 26

>>19942648
My bad. Thought that didn't make it in.

All right. Again, let's finish one thing before starting another. Continue work on the SW.

OP get in the IRC chat on rizon. #StarGuard

If only so we can ask you shit more immediately

rolled 7 = 7

I have changed my mind, lets fix salient white first.

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The lab boys finish prepping the diluted Salient Blue, stripping out the various chemicals that cause a systemic increase in toughness. The base batch for a line of environmental-resistance pills is prepared. Trade could begin with the corporation next turn, unless the Guard decides to do another full battery of clinical trials in rats with the finalized pills before trading.

Population: 570
Food: Plentiful
Water: Above Average
Materials: Surplus
Fuel: Surplus
Test Subjects: Average

>>19942787
Architecture: Mess Hall, Small Armory, Refitted Barracks, Water Pipeway, Professional Laboratory, Clean Water Cistern, Great Machine Shop, Large Yard, Apartments, Indoor Plumbing, Recycler

Weapons: Suppressed Pistols, Upgraded Scoped Suppressed Assault Rifles, Grenades, Lots of Ammo, High-powered Anti-material Rifles, Mortars, One Artillery Cannon, Cure Darts, Tranq Darts, Heavy Machine Guns

Technology: Handheld Computers, Professional Chemistry Suite, Surplus Modified Salient Blue, Surplus Modified Salient Red, Ammunition Press, Alcohol Still, Ten Motorcycles, Carts, Tanker Carts, Professional Medical Suite, Maximum-Security Specimen Storage, Night Vision Goggles, Rage Cure, Scout Helicopter, Large Biofuel Stills, Speed Boats, Surplus Modified Salient Yellow, Radio Tower, Radar Dish, Salient Pills

Defenses: Reinforced Buildings, Thick Doors with Locks, Watchtower, Chain Link-Reinforced Concrete Wall, Sandbags, Crude Camouflage Cloaks, Trip Wire Grenade Traps, Surplus Dogs, Upgraded Combat Hummers, Simple City Bunkers, Three Helicopters, Outer Yard Wall, Basic Airport Fortifications, Combat Armor, Surplus Horses, Naval Wall

Power: Tiny Nuclear Generator

Mutations: Base, Fast Recovery, Normalized Fertility, Strength, Large (20%), Improved Focus, Improved Reaction, Improved Coordination, Alpha Pheromones

-----

A. Scavenge for food.
B. Try to improve the base.
C. Try to improve weapons.
D. Research technology.
E. Pursue new mutations.
F. Explore in a direction.
G. Scavenge for raw materials.
H. Your choice.

>In case anyone's wondering, these pills are actually exceptionally difficult to synthesize unless you have actual salient to work off of in the production phase.

rolled 15 = 15

>>19942792
I think that puts most folks' concerns to rest, OP.

Vote we do the trials. Nasty surprises are BAD.

>>19942813
Second.

>>19942838
thirded (?)

>>19942813
agreed, after that, lie detectors, then we can go into the talks with the Opaque Inc. fully prepared for any shenanigans.

>>19942813
you have my vote
>(and my bow)

>>19942813

Another second.

>>19942853
Just so you're aware, the facial recognition software will require you to point the camera at them and look at the screen. It's far from subtle or covert.

rolled 28 = 28

>>19942792
OP, trade objectives question. Does the corp offer an AutoCad program? That could be used to make basic 3d Printer schematics (and I mean do mean basic. And pain-in-the-ass time consuming).

>>19942853
my problem with the lie thing is that they are on the computers. Even if we can make them, they would have to be trained on the guy we're talking to the entire time, raising their suspicions significantly. At least it would if I was them.
I suppose we could explain it away as making a recording of the deal (which we are also doing with the computer anyways)

>>19942869

Good, I mean, they can't possibly be naive to think we trust them.

>>19942869
pfft, like that's a big deal. I honestly think the corps will respect us that much more for developing something like that. They might ask for it as a trade good. It'll also make field interrogations way easier.

The uses are endless.

>>19942869
Would another month allow us to make it more subtle?

>>19942894
Computer-aided design software comes with the 3d printer.

>>19942915
No, the limit is the computing hardware you have access to. It would run on something with the design and interface scheme of a smart phone.

rolled 69 = 69

>>19942909
Neg. So far, we've both negotiated in good faith. Let's not blow that.

screw the lie detector
lets just get on with this.
Pills testing,
then use the 3d printer to help build a hydro powered generator.
then planes

>>19942957
>>19942862
>>19942856
>>19942853
>>19942848
>>19942838
>>19942813
the votes are in OP. We want more testing

I say we get hydro generator parts, construction equipment parts and a 3d printer with as many schematics

rolled 78 = 78

>>19942918
Good to know.

Extensive testing is done on the rats, to fully explore the effects of the pills. The results are actually extremely promising. While subjects still build up a physiological dependency on the pills, now that they no longer retard aging nor make the subject more robust, the process is more gradual to to a smaller extent. By the scientists' estimates, the pill should be safe to take indefinitely with the only side effects being a headache-filled couple days of withdrawal once it's stopped and veins ever so slightly bluer than normal while in use. The withdrawal effects are very much like a caffeine headache, or a bad hangover at worst.

They're willing to call it a rousing success.

Population: 570
Food: Plentiful
Water: Above Average
Materials: Surplus
Fuel: Surplus
Test Subjects: Below Average

>>19943105
Architecture: Mess Hall, Small Armory, Refitted Barracks, Water Pipeway, Professional Laboratory, Clean Water Cistern, Great Machine Shop, Large Yard, Apartments, Indoor Plumbing, Recycler

Weapons: Suppressed Pistols, Upgraded Scoped Suppressed Assault Rifles, Grenades, Lots of Ammo, High-powered Anti-material Rifles, Mortars, One Artillery Cannon, Cure Darts, Tranq Darts, Heavy Machine Guns

Technology: Handheld Computers, Professional Chemistry Suite, Surplus Modified Salient Blue, Surplus Modified Salient Red, Ammunition Press, Alcohol Still, Ten Motorcycles, Carts, Tanker Carts, Professional Medical Suite, Maximum-Security Specimen Storage, Night Vision Goggles, Rage Cure, Scout Helicopter, Large Biofuel Stills, Speed Boats, Surplus Modified Salient Yellow, Radio Tower, Radar Dish, Salient Pills, Environment Pills

Defenses: Reinforced Buildings, Thick Doors with Locks, Watchtower, Chain Link-Reinforced Concrete Wall, Sandbags, Crude Camouflage Cloaks, Trip Wire Grenade Traps, Surplus Dogs, Upgraded Combat Hummers, Simple City Bunkers, Three Helicopters, Outer Yard Wall, Basic Airport Fortifications, Combat Armor, Surplus Horses, Naval Wall

Power: Tiny Nuclear Generator

Mutations: Base, Fast Recovery, Normalized Fertility, Strength, Large (20%), Improved Focus, Improved Reaction, Improved Coordination, Alpha Pheromones

-----

A. Scavenge for food.
B. Try to improve the base.
C. Try to improve weapons.
D. Research technology.
E. Pursue new mutations.
F. Explore in a direction.
G. Scavenge for raw materials.
H. Your choice.

>The pills are circular, flat, blue, blue tablets about the size of someone's pinky finger nail.

Welp lets get to trading then and then back to our other projects, were we able to Purple our horses as a non action?

>>19943111
Oh, and one tablet lasts one person for approximately twenty-four hours, depending on one's metabolism. As such, the recommended dosage is one every twelve hours, just in case. Thought I should mention that, so that everyone's on the same page.

>>19943136
Yes.

well lets trade for some cool stuff. contact the corps, tell them we SCIENCED up some blue pills and are willing to supply them with Enduripills.

Factory and spend a non-action telling them about the pills. We can start the trade talks without trading.

3D printer + schematics is highest priority. Parts for a generator and construction equipment is a secondary priority. Hydroponic farming is a tertiary priority.

rolled 49 = 49

>>19943105
My vote, pending further discussion, is to trade with the Corp. Our first priority out of that trade is a 3d Printer of at least mid-range. Any current information they may have on the Vaults, other Tower, or Factory would be a nice bonus.

Items we should Trade for in order of importance:
3d printer
Schematics
Construction equipment
hydropower equipment
Anything else

I'm guessing we just give the OP a list like the one above and he decides how good a trade we make. Remember the alpha pheremones and make certain the actual terms of the trade take place in person. also take enough forces that they can't rip us off but not enough to be threatening.

Then repair a plane or build a hydro generator

>>19943139
OP, a point brought up on the IRC channel. Can we contact the corp and initiate negotiations as a non-action, or is that a full turn?

rolled 20 = 20

Tell the corp that we have the goods and are interested in 3d-printers.

Visit the factory with a scouting party while negotiations are starting

>>19943200
That's a proper turn. All you can really do in terms of the corp as a non-action is asking basic questions/giving basic information.

>>19943105
Great. Let's contact the corporation and get some trade goodies.

Just an argument in favour of the corporation. If they really were the kind of 'Profit-at-all-costs up to and including child slavery and genocide' I really doubt they would have been holed up in their outpost all these years. We more obvious problems to deal with, like what seems to be a raider CITY to the south.

>>19943220
Just checking. My vote remains to trade.

Spend a non-action asking about Vaults and whether they even want the pills.

Get to the factory.

>>19943229
More likely an entire domain. We'll want to secure our backyard and build up strength before dealing with them.

>>19943246
They asked us for the pills.

rolled 70 = 70

>>19943229

They have not had the means to leave because of radioactivity.

Non action: tell them we've got the pills almost read

Action: visit the god damn factory, finally!

Why don't we go check out the tower next turn?
I just want to know why they are yellow

wasn't the airport yellow before we encountered it or is that just a coincidence.

>>19943263
Exactly. If they were really the evil corporation out to make a profit, then they would have probably be totally fine with experimenting on human subjects (passing survivors or even their own less essential employees) until they found a method of resistance.

If people still don't think we can someway trust them, we can at least agree to trust them to not be stupid and do something hostile towards us.

>>19943301
I think its a color for non-remnants and non-survivors.

rolled 61 = 61

>>19943318

Saying that they have not done that, because they have not yet succeeded is no proof.

I think we should have a cold war stance towards them, trust but verify everything. Always assume that they are potential enemies and do not get dependent on them

lets just trade with the corps and get our swag from them, after that we can deal with the raider kingdom and work on slaying thier king with the jawbone of an ass.

>>19943360
That's not a cold war stance.

I just don't understand why were are so much more distrustful of these remnants than anyone else we have met. Is it only because they are a corporation?

>>19943371
>after that we can deal with the raider kingdom and work on slaying thier king with the jawbone of an ass.
I wholeheartedly approve of this plan.

>>19943301
It keeps being answered time and time again. Geez. Read the older threads as for WHY we don't trust them wholeheartedly.

Gonna have to go for factory.

Factory and open up trade talks with the megacorp

rolled 85 = 85

>>19943375

No, it is because they are powerful. They have a hi-tech advantage and probably a production/trade advantage too. Raiders are a nuisance, these guys could be REAL trouble

>>19943419
Or a powerful ally. The problem is, we can't be100% sure which, and some people are playing it a bit TOO safe.

>>19943419
So what, the answer is to isolate every corporate/remnant group we find and/or wipe them out? I thought we were the good guys.

rolled 97 = 97

>>19943437

I would rather assume malice and have them work towards earning our trust, than get stabbed in the back.

>>19943446
Noone said that. And there's still the other two remnants.

>>19943451
They can't gain our trust if we don't give them opportunities. This is their first opportunity.

>>19943451
But without overtures on our part that will just alienate them. It's almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

>>19943437

"NO we cant EVER give them a helicopter or form of air travel!! WHO KNOWS WHAT SINISTER PLOTS THEY WILL BEGIN WITH THE AID OF AN UNARMORED HELICOPTER WITHOUT GUNS ATTACHED??!?!>>
>certainly not attacking guys with mortars, a howitzer, five planes, and two more helicopters all with guns and huge practically bulletproof soldiers who have knife sharp reflexes, the physique of the juggernaut, and heal like wolverine and outnumber them somewhere around 20 to one i bet.

File: 1342659507274.jpg-(483 KB, 1414x2550, 1341309176396.jpg)

The Guard gets in contact with Opaque Industries (I liked the nickname) and offers them a large supply run of the little blue environmental resistance pills in exchange for a 3d printer. They try to haggle a bit, but when it's clear that the Guard has their eyes set on that specific item, the corporation agrees to the trade. When the products have exchanged hands, the 3d printer is plugged in at the main base and the schematics for all current Star Guard equipment is programmed into it.

The corporation gets back in contact with the Guard shortly thereafter to levy their compliments and satisfaction regarding the product. They would be interested in setting up a trade deal in the future, supplying processed material slugs for the fabricator in exchange for more shipments of the pills. What's more, they would like permission, if possible, to have the option to trade surplus pills to wasteland settlements on the Star City Trade Route.

Population: 580
Food: Plentiful
Water: Above Average
Materials: Surplus
Fuel: Surplus
Test Subjects: Average

rolled 13 = 13

>>19943446

I have spoken for trading with them in the chatroom too, I just dont see why people are so interested in getting them mobile for something we dont urgently need.

And yes, keeping higher standing forces isolated is pretty neat. Atleast they cannot do any harm that way.

Most arguments so far is that they must be benevolent because they have not done anything shitty so far. Aslong as they are stuck they cannot do anything and in their position, be they evil or not. they will do anything to get free.

only way to figure out the corps is totrade with them and then watch thier actions. in the meantime a raider KINGDOM could be trouble. genghis khan came really colse to ocnquering the world. These guys may be brutal assholes but that doesn't mean they're stupid.

if we wanna learn about the corps we have to give them rope to hang themselves with and hope they don't hang US with it. risk nothing gain nothing. Don't have to trust 'em just hgave to watch them.

>>19943519
Architecture: Mess Hall, Small Armory, Refitted Barracks, Water Pipeway, Professional Laboratory, Clean Water Cistern, Great Machine Shop, Large Yard, Apartments, Indoor Plumbing, Recycler

Weapons: Suppressed Pistols, Upgraded Scoped Suppressed Assault Rifles, Grenades, Lots of Ammo, High-powered Anti-material Rifles, Mortars, One Artillery Cannon, Cure Darts, Tranq Darts, Heavy Machine Guns

Technology: Handheld Computers, Professional Chemistry Suite, Surplus Modified Salient Blue, Surplus Modified Salient Red, Ammunition Press, Alcohol Still, Ten Motorcycles, Carts, Tanker Carts, Professional Medical Suite, Maximum-Security Specimen Storage, Night Vision Goggles, Rage Cure, Scout Helicopter, Large Biofuel Stills, Speed Boats, Surplus Modified Salient Yellow, Radio Tower, Radar Dish, Salient Pills, Environment Pills, 3d Fabricator

Defenses: Reinforced Buildings, Thick Doors with Locks, Watchtower, Chain Link-Reinforced Concrete Wall, Sandbags, Crude Camouflage Cloaks, Trip Wire Grenade Traps, Surplus Dogs, Upgraded Combat Hummers, Simple City Bunkers, Three Helicopters, Outer Yard Wall, Basic Airport Fortifications, Combat Armor, Surplus Horses, Naval Wall

Power: Tiny Nuclear Generator

Mutations: Base, Fast Recovery, Normalized Fertility, Strength, Large (20%), Improved Focus, Improved Reaction, Improved Coordination, Alpha Pheromones

>>19943519
I see no problem. Next action gents?

>>19943526
A. Scavenge for food.
B. Try to improve the base.
C. Try to improve weapons.
D. Research technology.
E. Pursue new mutations.
F. Explore in a direction.
G. Scavenge for raw materials.
H. Your choice.

-----

1. Agree to future trade, agree to let them offload their surplus.
2. Agree to future trade, do not agree to let them offload their surplus.
3. Do not agree to future trade, agree to let them offload their surplus.
4. Do not agree to future trade, do not agree to let them unload their surplus.

>If you agree to future trade, it would mean +1 materials on material collection phases. If you agree to let them offload their surplus, they would put the pills on the trade route, guaranteeing that the farms have a supply of the blue pills and netting a profit in the process.

>>19943519
YES.
THAT'S FINE.
NOW WE VISIT THE FACTORY.

Yes thats fine - letting them make a profit keeps them sweet just make sure they don't mark up the price too high for any surplus we give them.

Either fix up the planes or factory next.

I vote for explore the factory.

>>19943519
That is an eminently reasonable offer-slash-request, I believe.

Now I believe that popular opinion makes our next action scouting/contacting the Factory, yes?

rolled 13 = 13

I see no problem letting them sell the pills, now that the rabbit is out of the hat.

>>19943532
H1.
Let's go check out that factory. Btw, its been several months since we cut off the southern raiders supply of slaves, has the squad we left behind reported anything yet?

This deal gains us a fair bit. Has the infertility aspect been fixed yet? Because if they intend on selling of the surplus to the communities (which is fine) then we need to fix that quickly. So agree, so long as we have fixed the infertility aspect.

Guys what about the Stem Cell stuff? We need that too.

I think letting the megacorps offload thier surplus (with the added stiuplation that they must explain any and all side effects and main effects for that matter, of thier product ) enduripills.

Also lets explore that factory and try to at least turn the owners into our employees.

oh and one of my names got used. SWEET.

>>19943519
F1 or H1. I'm willing to let them sell their excess stocks of Rad-X, but we really should either explore over the mountains or set up sherriff's offices in the southern farms for protection if the southern city that bought slaves comes to to see what's going on, and improve our relations especially if the villagers see their brothers and sisters from the Guard working to protect them.

1. Agree to future trade, agree to let them offload their surplus.

We have no real reason/desire to sell any, and it means they"ll depend on us for manufacturing for the moment.

Lets visit the factory.

Oh, by the way, guys. You're currently at the threshold of what your tiny nuclear generator can handle. You can't build any other electricity-requiring things at the main base anymore until you expand your power supply somehow.

rolled 39 = 39

F and 1:

Explore the factory.


Agree to future trade, agree to let them offload their surplus.

>>19943647
TIME TO RAID A VAULT! Actually, we have all this land around us, that is presumably flat. Let's build a windfarm somewhere, and some solar panels. It seems to be viable if only because we have so much god damn empty land. Otherwise it'd be pointless.

>>19943647
anyone wanna do my tidal generator fortress pipedream?

Okay, sounds like consensus is F1, yeah? I'll start writing.

>>19943647
Do you not know how nuclear power works?

>>19943669
Nah. Hit two birds with one stone. Set up a new base by the river/forest to set up a power grid (which the tidal generator cannot do) and logging camp

Visit this "factory"
Apparently I missed a few threads, Last I knew we had like, 100 or so population lol.
I'm glad My scout choppers idea is still holding strong.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18FL-o0ptZ_wF9BCb8xeEN9BW8nrqQyNGUoCciTpKtd4/edit

I'm keeping the Actions list here instead of reposting them twice every day.

I put the ones that are nice,but not of immediate concern in their own list.

>>19943532
B. Wind farms and Solar arrays.
1. Shit, nigga. Dat's fine, do whateva.

>>19943689
A hydrodynamic turbine is powered by steam from the nuclear material core. There's a finite amount of torque that can be provided, hence a finite amount of wattage per hour that can be provided. The one at the base is at that limit; it will run for ages, but it only has so much potential output in a given period of time.

>>19943689

I always assumed it was an RTG

BORING

>>19943701
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Star Guard
We've had about two threads per evening since Friday. Feel free to take a bit to get caught up.

visit tha factory,

then we can work on the pwoer.

>>19943695
Seconding this.

>>19943695
isn't the river generator the tidal generator? whatever the hwole plan was to build a generator by the river, turn it into a fortress, post a garison there and extend a powergrid from it, a dual logging operation meshes with that perfectly.

>>19943765
The other alternative was setting up a tidal generator at the airport, but it wouldnt let us set up a power grid.

Scouting patrols are sent out to the factory, the one that appears active, with smoke billowing out of its stacks. When they arrive, they find it surrounded by a low concrete wall and a high chain link fence with privacy fabric netting the fence. White smoke billows out of the chimney stacks, and the sound of rushing water and the hum of turbines can be heard from within, suggesting that there's some kind of power generation going on here. As the squads approach the front gate, a PA system crackles to life within.

"Please do not enter the compound, Star Guard. We have broken no Star Laws, are in need of no protection, and are not interested in trade. We recommend that you return to your base to continue your normal operations. For your own safety, we urge you not to investigate the lake, as it is home to aggressive, carnivorous fish of unusual size. That is all."

Then the PA system turns back off and doesn't respond to anything the guardsmen say.

Population: 590
Food: Plentiful
Water: Above Average
Materials: Surplus
Fuel: Surplus
Test Subjects: Above Average

>>19943817
Architecture: Mess Hall, Small Armory, Refitted Barracks, Water Pipeway, Professional Laboratory, Clean Water Cistern, Great Machine Shop, Large Yard, Apartments, Indoor Plumbing, Recycler

Weapons: Suppressed Pistols, Upgraded Scoped Suppressed Assault Rifles, Grenades, Lots of Ammo, High-powered Anti-material Rifles, Mortars, One Artillery Cannon, Cure Darts, Tranq Darts, Heavy Machine Guns

Technology: Handheld Computers, Professional Chemistry Suite, Surplus Modified Salient Blue, Surplus Modified Salient Red, Ammunition Press, Alcohol Still, Ten Motorcycles, Carts, Tanker Carts, Professional Medical Suite, Maximum-Security Specimen Storage, Night Vision Goggles, Rage Cure, Scout Helicopter, Large Biofuel Stills, Speed Boats, Surplus Modified Salient Yellow, Radio Tower, Radar Dish, Salient Pills, Environment Pills, 3d Fabricator

Defenses: Reinforced Buildings, Thick Doors with Locks, Watchtower, Chain Link-Reinforced Concrete Wall, Sandbags, Crude Camouflage Cloaks, Trip Wire Grenade Traps, Surplus Dogs, Upgraded Combat Hummers, Simple City Bunkers, Three Helicopters, Outer Yard Wall, Basic Airport Fortifications, Combat Armor, Surplus Horses, Naval Wall

Power: Tiny Nuclear Generator

Mutations: Base, Fast Recovery, Normalized Fertility, Strength, Large (20%), Improved Focus, Improved Reaction, Improved Coordination, Alpha Pheromones

-----

A. Scavenge for food.
B. Try to improve the base.
C. Try to improve weapons.
D. Research technology.
E. Pursue new mutations.
F. Explore in a direction.
G. Scavenge for raw materials.
H. Your choice.

-----

1. Enter the factory compound.
2. Leave the factory compound alone.

>>19943824
Enter it. BY FORCE!

Why dont we just set up one there anyway so the airfield has ample power? And we still need to rid the airport of it's across the ruined bridge Red camp dont we? The Corp will surely appreciate it too since we're getting rid of all the major red threats near them on top of being able to use those cured reds to rebuild the bridge. Then there's easier shipping to the Airfield.

>>19943824
Leave a note saying :"We'll take care of the fish for you." then go about our merry way.

2- robots, totally calling it.
Maybe leave a portable computer outside just incase they feel like chatting

Anyway i vote we build the power generator/lumber mill and then get to work on a power grid for the friendly settlements

Set up a new base by the river/forest to act as a logging camp and give out extra space for the generator we"ll be placing there.

Tell the rural settlements and lighthouse our plans of setting up a powergrid, in addition to giving them some knowledge to build things.

What is the MegaCorps trading with the settlements for?

Yeah, just leave them a portable computer. Even if they don't want to talk, insist that it's necessary for the security of the region.

>>19943824
Time to send them a letter.

'The Star Guard wants to help, not just people one by one, but ALL of humanity, and this city must all be brought into the fold of cooperation if we are to survive, not just in the now, but our children generations down the line. We want to help you and all of Star City, and gain the manufacturing power of this factory. We can assist the surrounding farming communities and those survivors still in the city thicket with your machinery. We still have people who knew what this factory was, before the fall. Be here with us, For Star City's Rise.

>>19943868
Food and cotton, mostly. Wood too. Reports also suggest that corporate security operators have been stripping the blocks surrounding their tower for literally anything remotely scrappable and bringing it into their power.

rolled 11 = 11

>>19943907

They are either robots or stuck-up assburgers fags.

Lets ignore them for now

CANNONS!

WE NEED THEM NOW!

FEAR THE UNKNOWN!

FEAR IT OR BE DESTROYED BY IT!

DOOM!

OP do the ingame factions play by the same starting rules we do.
I think this was asked in the last thread but i can't find it

>>19943817
No point going in and we do need that power. So how about that tidal generator?

Hydro-electric generator/logging camp base please

>>19943907
Oh right, and 1.
>>19943913
Just have some Star Guard idle around those areas, chat and mingle with the corporate mercs if they can. Offer some food, some of our apple booze, a hand lifting if they need it (Hulks can lift up or demolish whats needed) And they might appreciate the female company.

Strictly as a social call, no business or nothing needed.
They ask why, take a seat, take a swig of spirits. Lookings not illegal in our laws.

>>19943936
More or less. Some of them started earlier or later than you guys did, but aside from that, yeah.

Lets set up a river generator and logging camp and turn it into a fortress so we can spread power to the region.

lets also leave a communicomp with the factory folk/robots just incase. we can buzz them with helicopters later to try and fuigure them out at some point.

robots makes the most sense.

well also have to deal with the mongols at some point so when we're done with infrastructure lets start on those guys. We have a city to kill.

>chiverm artillery
captcha wants howizters, howitzers everywhere.

>>19943970
Do you want to start with the logging camp, the generator, or the fortress they're going to be inside of?

>>19943965

So if you don't mind me asking what would the factory go under as a starting location ;)

>>19943977
Fortress. We need to secure our spot.

logging
then fortress (easier mats since less stuff needs transporting)
then power
then power grid

Logging to save up material when we do the power and fortress bit.

>>19943989
I can't tell you for the same type of reason that I can't tell you what's in the wooden tower in the fortress or the vaults. Sorry.

generator, then lumber camp (can run electric saw mill), then fortress.

>>19944004
agreed, lets have snipers and machine gunners guarding our loggers.

>>19944020
Out of curiosity, what would we get from a Fixed Rage (like an adrenaline rush thing that's for combat), improved Eyesight/Senses and Speed/Stamina?

>>19944047
You mean a rage that works the way the designers intended but failed to implement? Situationally boosted strength and toughness. It would only work when adrenaline is firing, so it wouldn't work if you got ambushed.

My vote is for B2, Build a lumber mill. The factory folks are entitled to their isolationism.

It wouldn't hurt to keep a squad stationed in the area for observational purposes, though.

Okay, it's clear that people want to build the lumber generator fortress, but not clear which of those three they want to start with. Everyone vote for one and roll 1d100. I'll look at the first five to determine which one it is.

rolled 30 = 30

Lumber mill.

rolled 57 = 57

>>19944101
start with da fort

rolled 19 = 19

Fortress

rolled 60 = 60

Lumber

rolled 67 = 67

Generator first to power our tools and the saw mill

>>19944101
Good idea, but it shouldnt be too much to have some, a few squads be in the city watching for reds. After all, there's stlll a large red compound near the megacorp, and their mercs might not be enough.

Which is also a good excuse to mingle with them while they scavange

>>19944169
There we go, starting with working on a generator. Typing.

rolled 59 = 59

>>19944169
A basic water-wheel powered mill can be upgraded to an electric mill with a generator.

>>19944172
The megacorps are across the river.

>>19944062
What about speed/stamina?

>>19944224
Toughness and stamina are synonymous for these purposes and raw speed would be enhanced by virtue of being stronger and therefore able to get moving faster.

if the factory folk are robots afraid of genocide they're entitled to thier privacy. If they're conquerer's building mechs they aren't I just wanna know which is which.

In the mean time lets finish Fort:Endurance and work on developing a tank, an honest to god tank so we can really curbstomp genghis khan and his slave city.

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The schematics for parts for a simple, modular, easily-expandable, easily-repairable hydro-electric generator are programmed into the 3d printer. In a stunning amount of time, the fins and axles and tubing and sockets and rotors are all produced. They're transported to the river right at the edge of the forest where they're assembled, generating quite a bit of raw power.

Population: 600
Food: Plentiful
Water: Above Average
Materials: Surplus
Fuel: Surplus
Test Subjects: Plentiful

File: 1342663755834.jpg-(137 KB, 900x590, hydro-electric-power.jpg)

>>19944328
Architecture: Mess Hall, Small Armory, Refitted Barracks, Water Pipeway, Professional Laboratory, Clean Water Cistern, Great Machine Shop, Large Yard, Apartments, Indoor Plumbing, Recycler

Weapons: Suppressed Pistols, Upgraded Scoped Suppressed Assault Rifles, Grenades, Lots of Ammo, High-powered Anti-material Rifles, Mortars, One Artillery Cannon, Cure Darts, Tranq Darts, Heavy Machine Guns

Technology: Handheld Computers, Professional Chemistry Suite, Surplus Modified Salient Blue, Surplus Modified Salient Red, Ammunition Press, Alcohol Still, Ten Motorcycles, Carts, Tanker Carts, Professional Medical Suite, Maximum-Security Specimen Storage, Night Vision Goggles, Rage Cure, Scout Helicopter, Large Biofuel Stills, Speed Boats, Surplus Modified Salient Yellow, Radio Tower, Radar Dish, Salient Pills, Environment Pills, 3d Fabricator

Defenses: Reinforced Buildings, Thick Doors with Locks, Watchtower, Chain Link-Reinforced Concrete Wall, Sandbags, Crude Camouflage Cloaks, Trip Wire Grenade Traps, Surplus Dogs, Upgraded Combat Hummers, Simple City Bunkers, Three Helicopters, Outer Yard Wall, Basic Airport Fortifications, Combat Armor, Surplus Horses, Naval Wall

Power: Tiny Nuclear Generator, Hydro-Electric Generator

Mutations: Base, Fast Recovery, Normalized Fertility, Strength, Large (20%), Improved Focus, Improved Reaction, Improved Coordination, Alpha Pheromones

-----

A. Scavenge for food.
B. Try to improve the base.
C. Try to improve weapons.
D. Research technology.
E. Pursue new mutations.
F. Explore in a direction.
G. Scavenge for raw materials.
H. Your choice.

rolled 97 = 97

>>19944328
Next matter of business is the lumber mill itself, methinks. B.

Lumber mill.

Send a scouting party to the Remnants building up north

hard to argue with that roll.

B: lumber mill for our fortress (which we should name.)

File: 1342664114181.jpg-(63 KB, 640x518, Guardium-ls_UGV_semi-auto(...).jpg)

Trot, get in the IRC chat.

Something tells me we shouldn't try to fuck with robots if their infantry will likely be my pic, and anything heavy will likely be equivalent to main battle tanks (which we can't even scratch)

BTW guys, just saying we don't know the true capabilities of any remnants so far. So lets not get overconfident on our military power. We could easily be just above the tribals.

Lets get an electric lumber mill going

>>19944385

You know the best way to solve overconfidence?

CANNONS!

just saying.

Also voting for lumbermill then fortress and a timeskip until it's finished

Make a bradley ifv

rolled 94 = 94

>>19944421
Seconded. We all know that's what we're going to do, barring major decision-requiring events at the end of the first month.

also OP how easy would it be for someone to tap our comm? Are the channels used for troop movements decently encrypted.
also did we leave a note like the one in alongside a computer:
>>19943907

Out of curiosity, on the talk radio, is the Star Guard ever brought up? What seems to be the MegaCorps public perception of us?

ok i keep seeing things about the irc chat, but i have no idea how to get in this. well someone please tell me?

>>19944511
http://mibbit.com/?channel=%23starguard&server=rizon.mibbit.org

It's IRC.rizon.net #Starguard if you have an IRC client. OP and trot should join

>>19944481
Yes. I should have mentioned that. And it's decently encrypted.

>>19944488
They're brought up sometimes, mostly in the as-neutral-as-possible sort of tone that that BBC uses to report on things.

>>19944522
Dammit OP, type faster!

>>19944427
bradly's aren't all all that good. I think if we're going the tanky route we should homebrew something, like we did with the scout helo.

The 3d printer is used to produce the electric motor and the saw chain that will be used in the lumber mill. The men head out and build a basic mill out of brick and mortar that will allow for the easy processing of logs into planks and columns. Near the end of the month, the Guard gets a communication from Opaque Industries.

"While out agents were out scouting the city, we ran across three tribals executing some tranquilized Salient Red mutants. Knowing the weight you lend to the Star Laws, our agents detained them and confiscated the darts they were using to disable their victims. We'll hold them at our tower for you to collect or for us to release at your command, and humbly ask for permission to begin culturing our own stock of the retrovirus present in the darts, for our agents to use in the event of encountering any Salient Red mutants. If you allow us to, we will of course begin making sure it's sold in all towns on the Star City Trade Route as well."

Population: 610
Food: Plentiful
Water: Above Average
Materials: Above Average
Fuel: Surplus
Test Subjects: Surplus

>>19944613
Like I said on the chat, building a Bradley is on the low-end of Military Shit To Do

We could armor all of our animals, get those cannons up and running, arm our choppers or even build a chinook over a single IFV All of those outweigh it.

>>19944625
Architecture: Mess Hall, Small Armory, Refitted Barracks, Water Pipeway, Professional Laboratory, Clean Water Cistern, Great Machine Shop, Large Yard, Apartments, Indoor Plumbing, Recycler, Saw Mill

Weapons: Suppressed Pistols, Upgraded Scoped Suppressed Assault Rifles, Grenades, Lots of Ammo, High-powered Anti-material Rifles, Mortars, One Artillery Cannon, Cure Darts, Tranq Darts, Heavy Machine Guns

Technology: Handheld Computers, Professional Chemistry Suite, Surplus Modified Salient Blue, Surplus Modified Salient Red, Ammunition Press, Alcohol Still, Ten Motorcycles, Carts, Tanker Carts, Professional Medical Suite, Maximum-Security Specimen Storage, Night Vision Goggles, Rage Cure, Scout Helicopter, Large Biofuel Stills, Speed Boats, Surplus Modified Salient Yellow, Radio Tower, Radar Dish, Salient Pills, Environment Pills, 3d Fabricator

Defenses: Reinforced Buildings, Thick Doors with Locks, Watchtower, Chain Link-Reinforced Concrete Wall, Sandbags, Crude Camouflage Cloaks, Trip Wire Grenade Traps, Surplus Dogs, Upgraded Combat Hummers, Simple City Bunkers, Three Helicopters, Outer Yard Wall, Basic Airport Fortifications, Combat Armor, Surplus Horses, Naval Wall

Power: Tiny Nuclear Generator, Hydro-Electric Generator

Mutations: Base, Fast Recovery, Normalized Fertility, Strength, Large (20%), Improved Focus, Improved Reaction, Improved Coordination, Alpha Pheromones

>>19944635
A. Scavenge for food.
B. Try to improve the base.
C. Try to improve weapons.
D. Research technology.
E. Pursue new mutations.
F. Explore in a direction.
G. Scavenge for raw materials.
H. Your choice.

-----

1. Collect the tribals, allow Opaque to produce Rage Cure.
2. Collect the tribals, do not allow Opaque to produce Rage Cure.
3. Have the tribals released, allow Opaque to produce Rage Cure.
4. Have the tribals released, do not allow Opaque to produce Rage Cure.

When it comes to a mill, it can be powered by a car engine. My uncle actually built one ages ago, and it's entirely powered by an old tractor engine hooked up to a bunch of belts and a saw blade. With the ruined city, I doubt parts are in short supply.

>>19944625
LET IT BE SO. THE GREAT RECKONING OF THE TRIBALS HAS COME! AND THE SKY SHALL BE AS BLACK AS SACKCLOTH, AND THE MOON SHALL BE AS BLOOD.
Send them the final ultimatum: stop this now or we will go trail of tears on their ass

1 - make sure that anyone the sell it to understands about the redbulls being innocent. also make sure no excessive price gouging

Keep working on fortifying lubermill

1 but inexchange for distribution see if we can get some goods from them. also when we get tribals execute them as an example to the tribe.

>>19944675
if we find out their doing it again there WILL be hell to pay.

rolled 94 = 94

>>19944642
B1. Fortify the lumber encampment.

More cured Reds can only be a good thing; fill them in on the options we've been giving the cured Reds, and suggest they do the same.

>>19944385
my PS3 hates all IRC clients and freezes until I close the window. sorry bro it sounds like you're having some amazing conversations.

>>19944522
interesting, wonder what people will think of us when we start expanding our powrgrid to compliant towns.

1 - make sure to try and get something out of it

B - Finish lumber fortress

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>>19944662
They are rightfully enraged though. While the Redbulls are handy folk that are merely gentle giants when vaccinated, they still slaughtered and forced people to become like them as well.
We really should collect the tribals and return them to their tribe and give them a chance to diplomance this shit out.

We are the Star Guard, not tyrannists.

Strike three, hospital tribals. You're out.

2. Collect the tribals, do not allow Opaque to produce Rage Cure.

We'd essentially be telling them to sell weapons. But then we didnt tell them not to do that.

Also, lets ask the MegaCorps about Vaults

Am I the only one who's had enough of this BS? I say we lay down the (Star) law and execute those tribals for murders and get our forces ready to raid the hospital. If the tribals won't listen to reason they can walk the wastes. this isn't them not knowing better, this is them doing whatever the fuck they want because they think there will be no consequences or that they aren't thinking at all and are just consumed with hate. Those tribals don't deserve the hospital.

Also Opaque Inc. gets to produce the cure. Lord knows they'll probably put it to way better use.

Lets fortify the base.

Take the tribals, goto the hospital. Tell them they can either be relocated to an island with no Redbulls, or we"ll put the Star Law on all of their warriors.

>>19944662
>>19944662
I vote for a public execution of the three perps the Opaque security guys caught will be sufficient to deter the rest of the tribals

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>>19944764
We do need to lay down the law. The question is, do we want to take it to the Hospital? The women and children are largely innocent, and any fighting there is going to hurt and kill them too, plus then we'll need to find something to do with them.

1 and make sure they send the cured ones our way, as far as the tribals go this is bullshit we gave them two warnings when they provoked the attack we move on to executions now

>>19944764
Not all of them targeted them. Theres still women and children.

So I think we should force them to the Lighthouse, where there are no Redbulls. They lose a home, but they get to be rid of them.

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>>19944812
Somehow, I don't think the Lighthouse survivors would be happy about that.

To expand. bring the three tribals and execute them in view of the hospital, with a great showing of force. Show them we WIll hold them accountable for their actions.

>>19944779
The Star Laws are not pick and choose as to who follows them, everyone under our jurisdiction follows them (its not like theyre nuanced and irrational) and those who break them face the consequences, They were murdering those cured Redbulls so they face the consequence of murder.

>>19944764
You mean the nice, irradiated wasteland where they"ll all die?

Lets show a HUGE show of force and give them two options:
1. Kill all tribals caught doing this. After the second time they're caught, we"ll attack the hospital.
2. They can be moved to the light house where there are no redbulls, nobody dies.

>>19944792
we'll offer to relocate them and build them thier own town, on the cravan route WAY THE FUCK AWAY from the redbulls. They don't take that offer they get forced out. that's my only sensible solution to this mess.

Sometimes you just can't win and the only option available hurts someone. I say we make ythe stubborn revenge fucks pay this time around. They can keep the wife and kids out of this, all they have to do is give us the hospital and settle in a nice fortified town.

that we will watche like a hawk.

>>19944838
This. Right here. If warriors are caught killing tranqued Redbulls again, we're going to take the hospital.

Also, lets make it clear that by killing redbulls, they're breaking Star Laws and interfering with our internal matters.

Lets not go soft. Those three warriors get executed by our laws.

I think its agreed that we shoot the bastards and bury them in a shallow grave.

Lets send the Opaque Security forces a gift package for a job well done. Apple liquor and some snack cakes maybe?

>>19944998
Agreed. Very much agreed.

>>19944920
Or its possibly a false flag trick by Opague.
Lets all these tribals once we collect them