>CONT

The Iron Dragons tell you that mind-to-mind assaults on a large scale was never the Fire Priests specialty. Subtle manipulation and hallucination just isn't their skill-set, they focus more on the physical manifestation of their powers (Fire, lightning, earthquakes).

Your forces land on the Hulk, losing several craft to remaining mines and enemy fire while maneuvering around wrecked Thunderhawkes and other debris. When they finally touch down, they come under heavy Traitor fire and are pinned down, but this diversion allows the disorganized Astartes and Sisters to regroup and take the fight to the enemy.

Your researches in the pre-fab buildings project believe that this time they have a much higher chance of success in their endeavors (Success, but you won't get the designs until next time-skip)

Your soldiers brave the darkness of the unknown Xenos ship.
>Roll 1d100

>Other Action?

>>19886971

Its seen ok but the State of Emergency protocols should be review, on a state of State of Emergency or war we shouldn't have to pass through the Executive Council (they could still remain adviser even in State of Emergency but only that).

rolled 84 = 84

>>19887025
Our soldiers should be careful. Retreat of the xenos means regrouping, they've shown themselves to be aggressive, so if we can help our troops with scans to detect ambushes, it would help.

How many of the warp drives have we disengaged, what's the status of our cutting explosives/tools, and how far along are we on new cuts?

>>19886971
State that we will take their offer under serious consideration but that it is not feasible under current circumstances due to the pressing need for instantaneous response.and consensus.

(Later, all who are to be eligible to come anywhere NEAR the post of there advisors (or be closely related to someone that comes near) will have to be exposed to the Loyalty Statue before being permitted an office.

rolled 13 = 13

>>19887025
And I have to leave the internet cafe. :/

Can't post (mootykins doesn't like cell-phone IPs in the great nation of the beaver?), but I can lurk. One more roll for great justice!

>>19887025

Ask the AdMech representative if he can dig out any useful date of the xenos from their archives.

>>19886971
Disagree on the executive mandates

They can control their state level but anything above that is still firmly in our control. They can come to us with recommendations that have passed by 2/3 majority in congress and a vote of at least 4/5 from the executive council, these will then be added to our upgrades plans based on the priority of other items but will be marked to shown that they were recommended and so have a higher than normal priority

Basically a space station might be mid level priority to us but if they recommend it we make it high priority

To this end taxes should be split between the state and planetary levels so that the local congress can improve their areas while we focus on the planet as a whole

Have our Cruiser scan the xenos ship. Any readouts can be useful specially if the ship is warp capable.

Guess who forgot to back up their post in notepad just once? THIS GUY!

Give me a minute here. While you're waiting shoot an email to moot telling him to fix this shit.

>>19887025
>>19886971
Rollin'

>>19887101
>>19887074
>>19886971

No executive council. The point of the safeguards is to make them apolitical if at all possible - the ACTIONS of one party warrant a response if contempt of Terra is invoked frivolously. If there are five other guys involved, some state-level governor might decide whether or not to declare a state of emergency or pull troop or fiscal support based on a history or relationship with Executive Counselors.

If another Rodoris arose under this system but half the state governors choose to remain loyal to him because of his executive council, it would undermine the directness of the system.

The Senate and Congress can amend the Federation's constitution, can't they? If so, they can enumerate restrictions on a governor's unenumerated powers as the need arises. If they want to turn us into a First Executive they can try it that way, but we're shortly going to bring their leaders into our confidence about the sector-wide fuckups and then they'll either work with us or not.

Continued.

>>19887308
Continues:

Stick a pin in further negotiations with them re: unenumerated powers except for this: When previously unused Gubernatorial powers are newly invoked, a dedicated judicial body is to review them and make a judgement on whether they were just or unjust as per the spirit of the Federation's constitution and its values; that is, they will be assessed apolitically. The Legislature can then take critical judgements of the Governor from this body and make a political decision about whether or not to try to amend the constitutional body of law to create a precedent limiting Gubernatorial power in fast-tracked sessions that will create an amendment to the laws governing Gubernatorial powers. For any actions involving public funds provided as taxes under Legislature control, for example building a dam or commissioning a space station, we can use the executive order system with their veto power and vote structure.

Otherwise they can wait until there's a problem to restructure the present governments ability to quickly react to all sorts of situations.

In addition, they can create an initial set of amendments that limit our powers which we'll be willing to consider. If we reject them, they can go to the people with the things.

>>19887312
>limit our powers
Nope. We can give them direct control over lower level things all day long but we will keep our powers as a planetary governor completely intact because we are not handing off any more powers to them either now or leaving them a way to remove powers from us later

>>19887200
That turns a legislative body into an advisory body that occasionally can change priorities and fuck up program momentum for other priorities they lower.

Since they can already advise us, they're getting very little except a means to pass a shitload of legislation and fuck around with project priority. Since their constituents set their agendas, shifts in the prevailing winds of public opinion could make our government's budget a tug of war between different groups in the legislature.

And splitting up taxes means we get even less in the way of discretionary funds.

>>19887343

I could like to have that single Spy satellite we dig out last thread up and running. I don't think we might need to spy on someone right now but we could use it to scan the whole planet for now. Also we should check that Aquila Lander too.

>>19887350
Yeah but the planetary levels upgrades could have a limit of maybe 1 or 2 per X amount of time and splitting the taxes means that they have more time spent on fiddling with their own areas and improving them and less bothering us

Also it is only planet wide upgrades that they can vote on for this so it will be something to benefit the entire planet instead of just their constituents

>>19887343
Do you think they're just going to forget about democracy? That they're going to live under a dictatorship for generations?

Our popularity has taken years to raise above 50%. Every time we make a decision that nobody gets to review, they chafe. They're heavily armed, the planetary population's factions include a huge mafia, a mining syndicate, and the remainder of a resistance movement that threw off a Tau invasion.

The leader of this former resistance has little reason to believe we are anything more than a smarter, nicer Rodoris because we have not reinstated more of the democracy he destroyed.

Look where his ultimate power got him. Look what his military might was when he left office - 300K men with shit gear in the PDF who were scared shitless at the thought of an armed uprising and would've likely deserted.

We have a citizen militia of three billion and change that has REPEATEDLY been mentioned as 'being raised and trained to use against you if you prove to be a despot' and similar things. They're not going to forget about their rights anytime soon, they're not going to register their weapons, confiscation will end with us exiled or hung from a lamp-post, and they have connections to the Eldar. Now is not the time to make it impossible for them to take powers away from us.

The system described above requires a kind of supreme court to decide whether or not our actions were bad for Daysimir before the Lawmakers can even try to take power away from us.

We select people for the court, the Senate confirms them.

>>19887393
What?

The Legislature doesn't approve the federal budget, it just creates tax laws. They manage tax rates. They argue for tax hikes or cuts. They don't even control the tax collectors.

The cantons already run local programs themselves.

>>19887417

We are already giving them much. I am in for reaching a compromise and making them understand that we are willing to discuses the fine issues but certain factors are even beyond ours to give.

>>19887417
Yes and with ultimate power we have proven to not be a dick, rodoris got to where he was because he embezzled and was generally a useless shitstain

If we start throwing away our powers we are just going to end up being thrown off the planet once we no longer contribute enough for them to bother with us

>>19887453
I am speaking from a planetary governor level. We leave the tax rate but give a percentage back to the local governments that is to only be used for improvements for their areas. It would be monitored to ensure the money is being spent for the intended purposes only

>>19887080
>>19887101
>>19887107
>>19887281

Your forces are concentrated on cutting free the AdMech Light Cruiser, and containing the Chaos Frigate.

Your soldiers step forward into the darkness alongside superhuman warriors in ceramite and half-machine guardians from a world where technology rules and factory fumes choke the wind. Their flashlights illuminate the dessicated corpses huge, dark green reptilian Xenos with thick, scaly hides, all dressed in leather uniforms and all wearing bladed weapons on their belts. The AdMech identify these creatures as the Kruk, a warrior race that fought alongside the Imperium in several battles during the last Tau incursion into the Sector, of which the Daysimiri 12 Years War and the fall of the string of neglected Fortress-Worlds at the Sectors edge were a part. Hu8ll damage that appears to have been inflicted by Tau weaponry indicates that this battle took part in the fighting.

>Roll 1d100 for scan
>Other action?

>>19887500
The WHOLE POINT of this is to make them like us because we are safeguarding their FUTURE.

They have NO WAY to prevent another Rodoris from arising LONG AFTER WE'RE GONE. They can get rid of him, but they can't limit his power in office or avoid bloodshed in his removal.

As such, THEY DON'T CARE HOW NICE WE ARE. We could die tomorrow and they'd be back to the same risks. THAT IS THE POINT OF GIVING THEM WAYS TO REMOVE A GOVERNOR'S POWER - TO PROTECT THEIR FUTURE.

It was never about us. We're capable enough of maintaining our popularity to not ever have to worry about the Senate and the courts limiting us so long as no more people use stupid policies like 'stick, THEN carrot.'

Remember that? That's one of the times when we were a bag of dicks to people and they responded by saying that they'd already planted explosives under our asses.

The point of giving them a means to remove powers from us is simple: it means they can do that instead of removing us from power. With guns and knives and space marines.

>>19887535

>that this ship took part in the fighting.

Also, sorry about taking 20 minutes to write a one-paragraph post. Had issues.

rolled 82 = 82

>>19887535

>>19887417
>confiscation
Never brought up anymore, we sorted that out long ago
>Rights
We aren't removing their rights but we are ensuring that we are still in control of this planet on the top level. Planetary governors without their powers don't last long and aren't generally liked by the administration that put them there
>resistance
Except we have proven repeatedly that we are doing everything we can to help them and our popularity is high enough that they see they can trust us with our powers and know that we have left them with weaponry, training, good living conditions and he ability to turn around and rebel all intact if they don't like what we are doing

>>19887535

, Secure strong positions and do careful exploration.

>>19887535

Forgot several large chunks of my post:

All Warp Drives on the Hulk are currently shut down.

Message sent.

>>19887553
no way to prevent
Except you know the massive training, weaponry, freedoms and allies who will gladly help them remove who they see as a despot

Our popularity is fine and this isn't going to go much further if we die. At the rate you are going we will be a fucking lawn ornament within a month because they will just take away any semblance of power we had and the sector lords will probably replace us with someone who is a cunt worse than rodoris because he will be efficient, he will murder most the population and he won't give a fuck about the powers we gave the people because surprise that's what most people would do in this situation

We have given them reason to like us through our actions since this started WITH the exception of a few chucklefucks going for the stick then carrot option

Now we need them to respect us and our position because they know we will do everything in our power to use it to their advantage and giving them a way to just write us out of power is not it

>>19887535
>Find aliens that are occasionally allies of convenience with the Imperium
Ask if anyone around here speaks their language, issue a broadcast offering to team up with any remaining ones and maybe bring them home.

>>19887499
>certain factors are even beyond ours to give
Like what? Be specific if you can, I'm interested to know what you mean.

>>19887512
So they ask us for a way to rein us in and you want to offer them money instead?

This isn't a purchase. We don't get to buy them off with more fiscal control, we either let them say 'wow, I really don't think you should have the power to order someone's instant execution and subsequent cannibal consumption' or we don't.

Let the Legislature be the people that make laws about the people's rights and their treatment and their quality of life. They already run and fund sub-federal programs. Keep them out of the federal budget as much as possible.

>>19887558
>>19887571

Scans reveal the ship to be a highly utilitarian, somewhat basic vessel that appears to have been a light cruiser analogue. Life signs have been detected in small clusters on the lower decks.
>+8 to combat aboard the Kruk ship

Your men fortify junctures and exits, then proceed to carefully explore the ship.

>>19887610
Keep in mind, There are lots of powerful people who dont like our choices, The Ultramarines and their friends, The SOB, And the Imperiom doesn't give two shits what goes down so long as a planet pays it's taxes.

>>19887629maybe bring them home.

I am all for being reasonable, but I think proper procedure calls for disabling the vessel and handing it to the AdMech for study and probably destruction(their decision). The survivors are just specimens for the the biomagos. Think about all the good will we can buy.

>>19887629
I wasn't even thinking towards that side of the argument to be honest I was thinking towards the business and upgrading side of the argument

Pretty sure they can already see us about the things you mention though since we already repealed the law of heresy which rodoris set up but if we want to give them the framework to ensure things like that then it is fine

My concern was that they might realize how open that statement is and decide to just fuck us off because they have things running nicely now

>>19887610
I think the point here is this:

While the Daysimiri are willing to rise up in global rebellion, they would rather have a way around.

We either give them that in the form of the completely reasonable system proposed above or they eventually want something they can't legally obtain that we don't feel like giving them and there's no way to avoid a civil war.

>lawn ornament
They don't get any control of the military unless we pull representatives out of the legislature. Same with tax revenue.

>the sector lords will replace us
What are you, new? The Administratum is willing to let the people replace their leaders with their own candidates, the Sector Lords don't have that power.

Your thinking is paranoid and controlling and that's been repeatedly proven to be a pathway toward shitty outcomes in this quest. People wanted to lie to the fucking Munitorum agent who was a psyker and slap around the Resistance for no reason. This had no reward. The BIGGEST reward came from protecting people's rights and coming to a settlement with their factions.

>>19887656
That's sort of why I want us to keep our power so we can demonstrate to those factions that we are doing our job and fuck anyone who tries to come in and change that.

If we start giving up power and allowing the people free reign then it could be twisted to us being ineffective and there being calls to remove us and place someone who isn't nice enough to worry about doing things the right way and resorts to fear and oppression with a side order of planetary cleansing and repopulation

>>19887630

Whats the status on the bioship? Still part of the Space Hulk?

>>19887629
>>19887656

You broadcast on all frequencies, although the Xenos appear to be long dead. You get no response.

The Imperium will eventually intervene if someone is completely corrupt, although they will be reluctant if they pay their taxes on time. In Rodoris' case, he hired on a portion of the fleet of a very wealthy and powerful RT (One Luna Class Cruiser, 7 Cobra Frigates) to hang around in orbit of his planet and discourage dissidents. This presence served as a deterrent to both local would-be rebels and Imperial forces that were already stretched perilously thin. Eventually the Sector Governor and Administratum decided that it would be worth a major space battle to start getting Tithes from one of the wealthiest worlds in the sector again. The RT fleet retreated, because fighting the Navy was not in the contract, and Rodoris was left without a leg to stand on.

Coincidentally, the fleet that kept Rodoris from being lynched early on was significantly weaker than the one that you were strangely allowed to retain command of when you were given power. Funny coincidence, that.

>Roll 3d100 for exploration, Chaos Frigate boarding, and Observation Servitor results.
>Other action?

>>19887719
The sector lords DO have that power they just don't exercise it without there being a very big reason

And there is a difference between being paranoid and wanting to throw away all semblance of controlling the planet because we want to be everyone's friend. We got this job because we were seen as a good candidate. We can give them legal pathways for objection and changes to laws but fucking with the entire structure of things on a planet that is already being watched thanks to the last governor being heretical, having been under xenos occupation and rebelled with the aid of other xenos?

The administratum is happy to let things be run by the people when everything is going well
Here is a little news flash. Shit around daysimir isn't going well, we are still in a shaky position and we aren't making it any better with allowing ourselves less control over our planet

>>19887630
I don't know if you've seen the questions here: >>19887629

>>19887686
The only AdMech available are the locals and a fleet that can only speak for one forgeworld. We don't know what they want and they're not the most powerful presence around.

Kruk corpses are available for samples, and the survivors might be easy to transport home. As for the ship, if anyone's keeping it, it's us. If the AdMech want it they can trade for it.

>>19887687
>My concern was that they might realize how open that statement is and decide to just fuck us off because they have things running nicely now

We're friends with an agent of the Administratum who is a former inquisitor.
We're friends with the Iron Dragons.
We have a fleet of Imperial Navy ships orbiting the planet.
We have the power to bench their legislators if they start frivolously trying to limit our power without a panel of judicial experts declaring that there is a need for it.
They have no way to impeach us.
We have an entire house of nobel prize winning minds to work out disputes and give us recommendations.
The local Arbites judge likes us.

If they decided to limit our power to make us a useless executive, we'd have the option to leave for adventure time and take our fleet with us even if the Imperium wouldn't back our power, and the Arbites and Administratum would probably intervene on our behalf.

rolled 4, 11, 81 = 96

>>19887753

Monitor the Bioship, the xeno vessels are probably the only source of trouble now.

>>19887725

50% destroyed, still part of the Hulk. currently being cut free and examined by the Iron Dragons to see if they can figure out which Hive Fleet it came from. This is important to them, as they were originally created as a Strategic Prognostication measure against a Tyranid threat. The vision was very vague regarding the exact nature of the Tyranid threat the Astartes Chapter was created to fight, just that one was necessary.

rolled 36, 24, 5 = 65

>>19887753

rolling

What are the capabilities of the Kruk? Anything in particular that makes them useful? Is there a Kruk planet in the sector?

I think we could incorporate the idea of giving a couple of Kruk to the Magos Biologis if they haven't already gathered that sort of information, do it with a small group of them we encounter before we meet any other Kruk and they wouldn't need to know what we've done. Only do this if we can do so easily and safely, otherwise rescue them all either for biologis or not.

Also, first post in this quest, followed it on archive, first time i've been on at the same time. I'll try not to mess you over.

>>19887778
I don't see any of the imperial powers looking favorably on us if we go to them and say "I need help reclaiming that world you out me in charge of because I let them take control of it through legislation"

And the idea here I thought was being a planetary governor which generally means governing things most likely a planet.

All our friends and such have proven that they only like us as far as it benefits them as well. None have as yet stuck their necks out for us with nothing to gain

I have no problem with them changing laws, and regulating their parts of the planet but I just do not agree at all with any means for them to remove our powers without us discussing and agreeing to each case such as the repealing of the heresy law Rodoris put in place

rolled 34, 33, 16 = 83

rollan

>>19887778
perhaps we should begin questioning how exactly one becomes a "former" inquisitor... this guy could be trouble long-term.

a plan to turn him over if shit gets too bad might be in order.

>>19887759
>the sector lords have that power

You haven't read the last couple threads very carefully.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19868766/#p19873420

>The one problem that your people might find with this is that the Administratum will be selecting their Governors from here on out. In fact, the Administratum might object to that too, as succession is usually left to whatever system the planet in question has, except for cases of removal from power (Like Rodoris) and appointment of the nearest convenient competent and loyal person.

>SUCCESSION USUALLY LEFT TO WHATEVER SYSTEM THE PLANET IN QUESTION HAS

Yeah, no. In TheGameroom's interpretation of the setting, the Sector Governor isn't likely to remove us and name our successor, and the Administratum isn't interested in having yet one more chore every time Daysimir needs a new Governor.

>>19887759
>fucking with the entire structure of things on a planet that is already being watched thanks to the last governor being heretical, having been under xenos occupation and rebelled with the aid of other xenos?

Except that the system Rodoris fucked with WAS the democratic system which worked fine for millenia.

Except that Rodoris is being watched and blamed for the heresy.

Except that the sector is too fucked and too far away from Terra for them to give two shits about xenos activity so long as it does not threaten Imperial interests, which it doesn't with Daysimir.

Except that THE MEANS OF CONTROL THAT THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT PROVIDES HAS BEEN STATED TO BE FAR MORE EFFICIENT THAN A DICTATORSHIP SINCE THE VERY FIRST THREAD.

>The administratum is happy to let things be run by the people when everything is going well

They're actually happy when power-mongering fucks like Rodoris don't have to be removed by them because their fiefs fall into civil war that starts off a wave of fuckups throughout the whole sector.

>we aren't making it any better with allowing ourselves less control over our planet
Yeah, you're assuming they'd do something they don't seem to want to do.

Now that I think about it...
Issue a public request that the people of our hives and potentially even in the PDF elect spokesmen that are to collaborate with each other and their communities to produce a relatively short list (They'll simply have to prioritize) of general (emphasize that no opinions expressed in these papers will be punished on an individual or collective scale and are in fact untraceable to the individual) opinions, desires and requests (and so on) that are to be delivered directly to the Governor's Office.
(They should of course pass security stations to ensure that no one plants bombs or stuff.)
Also, unknown to everyone feasible, they will in fact not be brought into the Governor's office, but be photographed/copied page by page.
The copy will be read by the governor. (Just in case)

>>19887868
You don't ever really retire from being an inquisitor

You are one until you die, he has just changed the methods and tasks he is taking

rolled 13, 62, 25 = 100

>>19887868

Why could he be trouble we are not planing to do anything traitorous? He is probably a strong ally to keep close and happy.

>>19887890
That seems excessively pointless we already delegated local governments to do that for us.

>>19887881
I didn't say they did it all the time but they can if they need to

Basically what you just repeated

rolled 49, 84, 20 = 153

>>19887753

rolled 33, 97, 64 = 194

>>19887868
He's a powerful psyker.
>let's roll him over if shit goes bad
>oh shit he read my mind

>>19887908
Look, this sector is in a terrible position they've lost most of the planets to various others and the Imperiums grip on this sector is waxing, The last thing any sane person would do would remove someone who is well liked by the planet and risk a revolt.

>>19887814
Welcome.

>>19887890
That's what the legislature currently in operation already does. We could just tap them.

Also we don't have any hives, this is a paradise world.

>>19887932
Yes but if we lose power they will replace us with someone who is decidedly less nice and likable who will get the results they want

>>19887908
The LORD SECTOR is the governor of the capial system of the sector and doesn't do that.

The ADMINISTRATUM doesn't want to do it and has no reason to unless we are corrupt.

If the planet ran itself fine they'd have no reason to remove us.

>>19887950
That is the opposite of what they did with Rodoris. You're just grinding an axe.

>>19887960
No I am just trying to explain my meaning
I am not changing my opinion based on any arguments offered because I have not honestly seen one which seems to make the argument seem right

I don't see whats the problem they have their democracy back and government control on local stuff, we are fairly popular, they have a multiple legal pathways to stop a new Rodoris. We have give them a lot already we can afford to to put our foot down own further limiting our power.

>>19887903
We do?
>>19887946
It does?

In that case, is it explicitly clear to the people themselves that this is brought directly to the governor's attention?

Also, if this is the case, why didn't we see a list/"report from the people" like that in The Gameroom's openion report?

In addition to
>>19887890
can we schedule bi-monthly press talks that will consist of nothing other than the governor personally responding to the requests sent to us through these sources?

Otherwise the risk is that they think we're just 'shitting them.

Alright, since people are evidently afraid that the planetary population will strip us of our powers I have a compromise: it will require unanimous ratification. This is in addition to first having to pass the gauntlet of a judicial body that will have to find fault with the Governor's actions for the legislators to try limiting our power.

If even one member of the Legislative Houses thinks it isn't worth doing, it doesn't go through.

They'll argue for three fourths or something but we can probably get them to commit to nine-tenths. That means we only need one tenth of them to vote against limiting executive power.

Second this if you think it works. Going to post the overall structure of the proposed governing system momentarily.

>>19887993
opening!* Damnit. >.<
Need to spellcheck better.

>>19887997

Hopefully we can move on pass all this fine points in the local government. They seen like a waste of energy to discuss to much for so little thing.

>>19887997
That is agreeable
If an overwhelming majority thinks the governor is doing something wrong then obviously we are

>>19887993
What point would there be in giving it to us? It would near always consist of boring mundane stuff.

They don't care what we do so long as it doesn't involve taking their rights or expanding the government.

>>19887993
Yes, we do. To quote the last thread, "The Cantons and States are already effectively running at the local, Canton, and State levels, as per your specifications when you first took power, the Congress and Senate are just for regulation at the Federal level."

We can tap into that anytime, but just letting them continue to exist serves to demonstrate our benevolence.

I'm suggesting we create a whole house of people to work to fix public problems. Posting more in a sec.

Guess who forgot to save to notepad again?

Seriously, fuck you moot. Fuck you.

In my envisioned system, it works as follows:

Planetary Governor - unimpeachable 'First Executive,' but malevolent interference with lower branches creates repercussions in the form of portions of the military no longer reporting to the governorship. Military power (roman political concept of Imperator) emanates directly from harmony with representative government. Has unenumerated powers the way citizens have unenumerated rights; these are curtailed by powers granted to lower branches of government through devolution, separating them from the governor's post. Issues mandates when necessary, but these are inferior to laws passed by legislative branches. Is a Peer of the Imperium and serves the Priesthood of Terra; impeachment pointless because of any connections this gives them with, say, an Imperial Navy bombardment squadron so stripping them of military power systematically if they're tyrannical is the way to go. Can hold senators and congressmen in 'Contempt of Terra,' removing them from their legislative duties if they are judged not to be serving the Golden Throne and the Federation. They're not jailed or anything, just not allowed to enter the Legislature and pass laws, effectively suspending district representation. Possible misconduct reviewed by judicial body; if misconduct is found, a nine-tenths majority in the Congress may pass a bill to restrict the Governor's powers and a nine-tenths majority in the Senate will be required to confirm it.

Parliament, consisting of the following houses: House of Lords, Senate, Congress.

>>19888036fix public problems

Unless its serious enough to come to our attention leave the local, Canton, and State levels deal with it. we have more important thing to focus on.

>>19887997
Agreed, we would have to be extremely incompetent/bad/evil to convince 90% of them to want to limit our powers, especially when we have been proving ourselves so useful.

This way they have their failsafe but it shouldn't apply to us unless we become as bad as Rodoris.

i dont like this whole reinstating checks for our acton thing.


id rather we formed a dynasty.

fuck vetoing legislature on our actions.


we are currently above avrege in popularity for a Planetary Governour, we dont need this shit or headache.

Not now when we have more pressing concerns at hand, and especialy not when we do the xeno mall, or start launching crusades.

>>19888070
The alternative to the checks is our military adviser (the head of the rebellion) executing us.

House of Lords: apolitical, chosen on basis of merit in relevant areas by all branches, confirmed by legislature. Functions to liaise between Planetary Governor and governor's various staff and all other branches; the 'glue' that holds the system together and allows all portions to work together, working to take gubernatorial mandates or proposals for laws and pass them through the legislature or create laws through the Confederation itself. Seeks relationships with foreign powers. Works to replace the Governor when the post opens by selecting a candidate from among the planet's population based on merit - the elite doing the greatest service to the common man in choosing a candidate capable of serving the public. This candidate cannot be one of their own members. The Legislature jointly confirms the candidate by simple majority, and then the populace confirms the candidate with a straight yea or nay vote. If more people vote against the candidate than for the candidate, the candidate is ineligible for governorship but potentially given a seat in the House of Lords, and they must produce another in a year. In the interim, the dean of the legislature - either the longest-serving elected legislator or the one with the most authored laws if there are no clear winners for longevity - is the acting governor.

This prevents demagogues from being elected by a populace they can manipulate through mass media by forcing all candidates to pass the judgement of the nobel prize and congressional medal winning public servants in the House of Lords. Only capable candidates here.

Senate: Has the power to approve treaties with foreign entities and approves laws proposed and passed by Congress. Presence of a senator in the legislature guarantees State-level support for the PDF - if a Senator is frivolously removed from office by the Governor, that state does not report to PDF commanders absent a state of emergency recognized by the state governor. 'Frivolous' to be defined strictly and a judicial body to be set up to come to a rapid finding of the frivolity of such a removal. Confirms congress's proposed limitations on the Governor's authority with a nine-tenths majority.

Congress: Has the power to impeach elected members of the government at any level (so anyone but the Governor, who gets to be removed by the entire military refusing to accept gubernatorial authority and deciding to forcibly vacate the gubernatorial office). It also has the power to declare war against foreign powers, which allows the Governor to mobilize the PDF outside of the solar system. Main function is proposing and passing laws and funding bills, the former of which require approval by the Senate via 50% majority and Gubernatorial approval. Presence of a congressman in the legislature guarantees Canton/province-level tax revenues - if a Congressman is frivolously removed from office by the Governor, that district does not contribute to tithes or government funding outside its state absent a state of emergency recognized by the state governor. 'Frivolous' to be defined strictly and a judicial body to be set up to come to a rapid finding of the frivolity of such a removal. If an appropriate judicial body deems the governor to have committed an act of misconduct in executing gubernatorial duties, the congress can pass a law limiting the governor's powers with a nine-tenths majority; this law will require a nine-tenths majority in the Senate to be confirmed.

>>19888070

I have serous misgivings about the xeno mall, seems like the thing that can created huge trouble for us the moment something previously unknown as dangerous passes through it and people start pointing fingers for the person responsible.

General: The people of the Confederation of Daysimir also have the power to propose a law so long as the petition gained 50,000 signatures within 100 days. This law is then voted on by Congress, and, if it passes, the senate and Governor. If the Citizens of Daysimir wish to bypass this process, a petition requiring 100,000 signatures within 100 days is required, if this succeeds the Citizens of Daysimir can repeal any existing law save the devoluted constitutional structure guaranteeing the Federation's existence or put any law that does not violate the Constitution of the Confederacy directly before the Planetary Governor for approval. The power to propose laws before Congress is also available to the Planetary Governor.

>>19888121
The numbers need to be adjusted to reflect the size of our population for this still

>>19887997
>>19888052
>>19888092
>>19888116
>>19888121

That's the proposal.

Second or amend please.

Lets not do the legislature change.

things are working fine as of now. plus any thing we do is our culpability not Daysimir due to said totalitarian system.

I say we leave it as it is.
and if we want to be safe from the powercheck we have, we should get more troops loyal to us personaly and the von Braun name, enough to take on the spec ops as a hard counter. for the head of the rebelion, i think we can have something similarly good prepared.


less of a headache to do and prepare and not risking impeding our designs.

>>19888117
We could have a ban on unknown artifacts and require Rouge Traders to have it examined before it can be sold at the market and maybe also have them put up collateral if we really don't want to risk it and if the artifact in question turns out to be benign return it to them when they return.

>>19888144
Second.

>>19888121
>>19888137
I'll agree to it under the changes I posted

>>19888137
Nah, that stuff's just to schedule a vote in the legislature. It doesn't instantly create a law.

If a hundred thousand people want a vote, they can have a vote.

>>19888070
We ARE forming a dynasty. It just won't be dependent on our governorship. There will never be a hereditary governorship on this world though. The citizen militia killed a band of chaos marines, they're absolutely never going to yield to a hereditary ruler.

>>19888060
That's how the system currently works and the expansions on it we are proposing will largely work better.

>>19888144

Sure, lets just move on. but change the numbers as a appropriated.

>>19887794
>>19887800
>>19887868
>>19887892
>>19887914
>>19887923

Your forces aboard the Wind of Skulls are wiped out by a traitor ambush using your own tactics against you: Make Your Own Door. The hanger floor collapses from beneath your landing craft, plummeting your soldiers into a pit of waiting Traitor Marines and Cultists. Soon the horde swarms out of the gaping holes to assault Iron Dragon and Sisters forces from two sides. Although the forces of the Imperium cut a bloody swath through the heretics, they are overwhelmed A few surviving Marines, mostly Terminators, along with a handful of Veteran Sisters and Skitarii fight their way free of the Killing Ground and take up defensive positions.

On-board the Kruk ship, your men carefully fan to to search for anything interesting. During this time the tentative life signs in the lower decks disappear, and are spotted again in the midst of your soldiers too late to warn them. The Genestealer ambush is swift and deadly, although the survivors manage to pull back to established fortified positions. The counter-attack wipes out the Genestealers with minimal (additional) casualties.

>CONT

>>19888147
I say we hold off on this as well for the time being and agree with the points made here.

>>19888036
Excellent, so why aren't we getting that report?
Seriously, knowing if they're thinking "Ah shit, another corrupt bastard" or "Saint hath arrived" is VERY useful. In short, it allows us to keep in touch with what the populace thinks and makes it far harder to feed us false information about our policies or whether they are being enacted at all.
Corruption only needs to happen one step above the common man to go to hell.
In addition, the shortness of the message assures that only things they actually consider important makes its way onto it, lets us detect patterns like cults or disease and otherwise provides a handy shortcut from "The people we're actually governing" that doesn't have to go through "the shortsighted aristocrats" to reach our ears.
>>19888032
Isn't most of the report boring mundane stuff anyway?
Still, if there is nothing noteworthy of the report it can easily be summarized as "A few border conflicts, some complaints about medical taxes and otherwise mundane materials".

In short, it's a reality check. Pretty much all our other sources of information are very vulnerable to corruption or plain incompetence at any step.

>>19888168

We might want to cut our losses and blowout the Wind of Skulls. Its just too many losses.

>>19888147
>>19888170

>things are working fine as of now.
Half the populace wants us gone most of the time, things are not fine.

>plus any thing we do is our culpability not Daysimir due to said totalitarian system.
It's not a totalitarian system, and if we want things to be our personal responsibility we already have corporate interests.

>and if we want to be safe from the powercheck we have, we should get more troops loyal to us personaly and the von Braun name, enough to take on the spec ops as a hard counter. for the head of the rebelion, i think we can have something similarly good prepared.

You don't get the situation.

We have a militia of THREE AND A HALF BILLION described as follows:
"Equal in training to standard Guardsmen, are excellent shots and masters of Guerrilla and mountain warfare. Armed with Autoguns (Local design, extremely high quality), standard Flak Armor, and Ragnarok Tanks."

NO AMOUNT OF TROOPS WE COULD HOPE TO MUSTER would overwhelm them without rendering the planet useless.

>less of a headache to do and prepare and not risking impeding our designs.

We will absolutely not get important things done without long-term security on this world.

>>19888181
>Excellent, so why aren't we getting that report?
We have a popularity metric available to us.

If you want a general-purpose body created to sift through the interests and wants of three and a half billion people, there's a proposal for one here that you can second or amend >>19888144

>>19888223
To say nothing of the Iron Dragons being very likely to kill us if they discover we're a pro-totalitarian who likes killing commanders that oppose us.

>>19888223
Not who you are quoting but where are you getting that half of them want us gone still?

I thought given we were pretty damn popular as governors go we had some dissent but for the most part people liked us instead of the idea of any alternative

>>19888168

The recording Servitors come back into communications range and begin transmitting their findings. The Mechanical spiders and Ork remnants appear to be fighting a large and aggressive species of insecticoid Xenos, who are divided into different sub-types not unlike Tyranids. Main castes appear to be a basic fighter caste, a larger and more intelligent Warrior caste, and an Elite caste. These creatures use weapons and armor that appear to have been grown or crafted organically, but are no longer alive. The same goes for their ship. Primary weapons appear to be railguns. Fighter caste creatures did not exhibit much intelligence beyond that of a common animal, while Warriors and Elites seem to be smarter and serve as commanders.

>>19888168

The Kruk are huge and strong, standing eight feet tall and are even stronger than an Ork, with fast reflexes and a thick, tough scaly hide, although they are less durable than Orks. They are a young race and slightly less intelligent than humans, so most of their advanced technology was traded for with other races. Notable examples include the use of Tau warp drives and Imperial Flak Armor. Their home system is in this Sector, in which they have four inhabited planets plus two smaller colonies in nearby systems, one of which was destroyed in fighting with the Tau during the Tau expansion that began the Daysimir 12 years war.

>Give AdMech Kruk Bodies
>Attack the Spiders
>Attack the Insectoids
>Attack the Orks
>Attack everyone
>Ask the AdMech about the Insectoids
>Attempt to communicate with the Insectoids
>Other

>>19888168
>>19888187
Tell the commanders that if they want to mount another assault you will do so but if they wish to instead retreat remaining forces and recover the dead you will agree.

Tell them you'll consider careful lance and antipersonnel fire directed at the frigate in an effort to break all pressure seals, and that now that she has no engines and therefore no generator, life support should periodically fail as it is.

Tell them you regret the boarding action's failure and will memorialize their losses.

If they want to get out and bombard the ship, place charges on the hull that'll crack it open or lance and blast it with precision after placing markets on the hull. Target life support system locations and work to expose much of its guts to vacuum.

If we get away with so much as the starship's frame, that's better than nothing.

>>19888266
I also thought that we were pretty popular considering the type of government we currently have.

>>19888283
Give AdMech Kruk bodies
Ask AdMech about spiders

>>19888285
Personally I would be happier pulling them out and just turning it into slag

We were just being greedy trying to take it as well and we have paid for it

>>19888144
Seconding the hell out of this.
Take that, hell!

>>19888283
Give AdMech Kruk bodies
Ask AdMech about spiders
Attempt to communicate with the Insectoids

>>19888266
Back when we had the Trust & Popularity system, trust started off at 16 and only got above 50 temporarily when we made a deal to integrate the Resistance into our military. It was occasionally raised by some speeches Editor wrote IIRC.

Our popularity was 30 at around thread 12. It rose as high as fifty by the last thread, and was at 50 when we got another +10 bump by leaking that we were trying to restore the old parliamentary system and another +1 bump for hazard pay.

That puts it at 61 for now with a 39% disapproval, but if nothing comes of the attempt to restore the democracy it's going to fall lower than it was before we got started.

Add to that all the fucking casualties we've just taken and it's not looking good, so we need to cement our relationship with the people.

>>19888168

The presence of gene stealers worries me, I don't think it could be wise to let any xeno alive to spread the infection and draw the attention of the hive mind to the sector.

>>19888340
I was under the impression we were sitting around 90 because I remember a lot of bumps and very few losses

Can gameroom clear this up please?

>>19888316
It takes a few months to install components on a ship. It takes decades to build one.

It's power generation is gone. Life support will fail. The warp drive is sealed away or not operational for now, they can't escape. It's an imperial design, we don't find that many of them. Onboard forces have been reduced to a skeleton crew in all likelihood because it was drifting around in a hulk.

You go ahead and tell me it's not worth getting our hands on.

Go ahead and tell me it wasn't just the dice.

Careful assault is the way to go.

>>19888347
He did in the last thread:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19868766/#p19870721 for the question and
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19868766/#p19870868 and http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19868766/#p19871264 for relevant responses.

>>19888356
It was worth it but we were benign greedy, we have gotten how many ships out of this hulk already? But we went for the one filled to the brim with chaos raiders which were just asking for a chance to wreck our shit

I am not saying it wasn't a good opportunity but we rushed into it and paid for it

>>19888340

Until told other wise we are still highly popular. And we have been getting along the locals and militia just fine, we are giving them back more of their old government holding back a little is not going to make everyone hate us suddenly. Let's move on already.

>>19888376
I agree that we should focus on the task at hand until it is complete.

>>19888365
Yeah I remember the first two I must have missed the 60 popularity though

That is still above average and I don't think it means 40% of the population wants us gone

>chaos ship
We've done quite well in worse spots and they have like 40 chaos marines. We have far more to bring to the table.

Don't wuss out on us now, guys.

>>19888345
>>19888338
>>19888300
Seconding these.

Give the AdMech an offer regarding Kurk bodies later, but collect the bodies when there's time and we'll bring them to the negotiating table. Figuratively, though.

Ask the Mechanicus about all the xenos. Ask all present forces about them, actually, maybe someone knows something.

Attempt communication with the Insectoids, sure.

>>19888376
Agreed.
We are pretty damn well liked as far as things go so we shouldn't begin panicking because an unexplained numerical figure isn't high enough

( before anyone bitches we know popularity is how liked but we have had no indication whatsoever the actual effects of that mean )

>>19888388
>>19888376
See
>>19888365

>>19888389
What do you think it means when our own advisors tell us that a militia has been trained to use against us in case we require removal, that they trust us completely and see no need to change anything?

Some people.

>>19888375

Salvage operation on the imperial vessels should continue, I think the chaos ship should be blow up. Ask the sisters and the ID to pull back and fire on it until their is nothing. Xeno ships should come last and the rest of the hulk should be scan for possible salvage. But focus on cutting the adMech vessel first.

>>19888394
40 chaos marines and a shitton of cultists who just about wiped out our entire force

The only thing stopping me from saying we should just go full broadside rape on it is that we should get the equipment and bodies of our allies back for proper burial and ceremony

>>19888402
Yeah, wait for all the heavily armed people to come and kill us instead of giving them a legal resolution. They haven't threatened to bomb our palace or anything.

OH WAIT, THEY DID.

>>19888285
second that

>>19888405
It means that when we got here ( and that's when they said it ) that they didn't trust us and didn't
Iike us so we were given a direct sign that they were ready to fuck us off when needed

Lately we have had nothing but them being happy and being told we are more liked than most governors , now I am pretty solidly of the opinion our people are the biggest assholes this side of ultramar but I don't think they are on the verge of kicking us off planet yet because we aren't kneeling down to suck their dicks every time we meet them unlike you and it seems others

>>19888408
>>19888409

Our luck changed swiftly and repeatedly when we took the Ork ship. However, the prize was archaeotech.

Tough dicerolls are just that, guys. Let's see what the commanders are saying.

>>19888413
Are you fucking dense?
That had nothing to do with not giving them a legal resolution but getting it and leaving all this fucking retardation behind so we could get on with it

I have been called paranoid multiple times already for not wanting to give up power but now you are all being fucking paranoid that we have a gun to our head for the moment we cough without these fucks giving us leave

>>19888439
Yes tough dice rolls are just that but I am reacting to them as I think is reasonable

We can't just go "oh well that's too bad throw more men at it" forever without losing friends, popularity and more than we gain in the endeavor

>>19888285
>>19888285
>>19888285

M'rak informs you that they would like to assault again, this time through the Observation Deck, once the ship has been voided and the hangers have been destroyed by external strikes after evacuation of the wounded and dead. He says that the Iron Dragons and Skitarii will continue the operation from here, and suggests that you utilize your human forces elsewhere, as boarding operations aboard Chaos ships are bound to be extremely lethal for unaugmented humans lacking Powered Armor.

>Should have been "Ask AdMech about INSECTOIDS. The Spiders, as far as they know, are new.

The AdMech easily identify these creatures as Xin'Tar, a warlike Insectoid race from the "Southern" edge of the Sector. They have a checkered history of conflict, peace, and cooperation against mutual foes like Chaos or the Tau Empire (And, of course, illegal trade) with the local Imperium, although they eventually recognized the Imperium as an entity capable of destroying them if they became too much of a a nuisance, and have been quietly co-existing for the last century. The ship is one of their Capital ships, the equivalent to an Imperial Cruiser. Life Signs indicate a large entity on the upper decks, which the Mechanicus theorize to be a young queen, possibly one setting out to establish her own Fiefdom in the stars. The last notable event including the Xin'Tar was a fleet of warships sent East to combat the Tau Incursion, seeing the Tau expansion as a threat to the Unified Hive.

>Roll 1d100 for communication attempt.
>Other

>>19888409
Not to mention that the vessel should be far to tainted for salvage or refitting considering its black legion origin. Destruction is its likely future either way. Unless someone can give a good reason to capture it I say burn it with plasma.

rolled 90 = 90

>>19888451
Let's try and talk to them and see if we can get their help.
Even if we don't get their ship out of it we can at least get them to help us clear the other ships out and get this hulk done with

>>19888454
Thats why I just wanted to destroy it in the first place.
Now we should at least recover the dead and then slag it

>>19888451
What's their likehood of gene stealer infection?

>>19888442
There are eldar in regular communication with elements of the population.

There is a sector-wide risk of genestealer infestation, which tends to create revolts and destabilize governments.

There is evidence of a sector-wide conspiracy to destabilize governments.

Yeah, we're not at risk of them manipulating our people at all. Let's be confident in their respect for our success so far.

>>19888478
>>19888454
The Gameroom has mentioned that it is salvageable and that, without life support, most of the cultists will die over a period of days.

It currently cannot power life support or weapons.

We have an Ordo Malleus Inquisitor en route that could help us with the matter.

We were able to sanctify the Chaos Raider just fine, and it had Emperor's Children as operators.

You are all afraid because the initial assault didn't go well, and for that you are bad at 40K. We have over a thousand marines and over thirty thousand troops in reserve to draw on before we even bother with the Skitarii.

We roll again and we take it.

>>19888463
Seconding.

Offer them opportunities to fight Tau for you and make their names in the stars if you free them from the rocky confines of the hulk.

Tell them you will need their help to do so in terms of killing the other aliens present.

>>19888451
>M'rak wants to assault it again

He can do so with that plan, but we should ask him if he wants to take advantage of its engine-less and therefore probably generator-less state to starve them out and suffocate them in droves.

>>19888548
Well I must fucking suck that I actually respect our allies losses and don't want to throw away more of them in a mad rush for one fucking ship then. I wonder why I even bother trying to I don't know stop you all from going full fucking retard constantly when it seems that's all you want to do

>>19888523
Let's see on that
Eldar we helped the resistance reclaim soulstones for them
Genestealers our first acts were to wipe them out completely including gene scanning people
Sector wide conspiracy not much we can do about that either way because it has been shown getting people into our administration is a fucking cakewalk and making them have more autonomy only gives them an easier time at infiltrating our planet

Our people have gone from hating us just for existing to liking us somewhat because we are helping them. They aren't about to go "Allahu akhbar" and fucking blow us up for not rolling over on every little thing they want

>>19888454
>>19888463
>>19888482

One of the ships in your Fleet, the Even In death, was one of the Chaos ships captured from the raiders that destroyed one of your port cities. It has been cleansed and repaired, although there was a Dark Age Logic Engine on-board that was possessed a Tzeentchian Daemon which proved impossible for the Iron Dragons or Sisters to exorcise and now resides in Stasis in the ID Fortress Monastery. Most of the remaining Warband fleet was also captured and is being cleansed to return to service in the local Imperial Navy. The Warband was Emperors Children with Thousand Sons elements.

Unlikely. The Xenos appear to have just come out of hibernation and are hostile to Genestealers along with everything else.

A small group of Special Forces and Armsmen makes their way to the edge of the conflict zone, and one soldier waves an Imperial banner at a Warrior while making non-threatening hand gestures. Soon the area has been cordoned off by Elites and a creature that appears to serve as a Diplomat of some kind approaches under heavy escort and greets your men in gurgling, but passable Low Gothic.

>Ask for their help in cleansing the Hulk
>Offer aid in removing their ship from the Hulk in exchange for help in cleansing it
>Attack them
>Other

>>19888595
Offer aid in return for their help

>>19888548
Being "good" at the 40k setting is partly why Rodoris was hated in the first place, we have been liked by people so far for actually giving a shit about them so stopping that now seems more than a bit stupid

>>19888592
Yes, you're a wuss who can't seize the initiative or deal with a bump in the road.

The fact that you cannot recognize genuine risk when it is present in the form of a likely revolt down the road doesn't help the now apparent realization that you've utterly failed to understand the nature of the entire operation and the weight of overall losses.

>>19888595
Tell their diplomat that if their forces work with yours in destroying the spiders and orks and working to secure the hulk, you will free their ship from the hulk and offer them the locations of troubled areas that they could assault in order to 'make their name in the Stars,' and that you might give them some foodstuffs and would be willing to entertain other requests for aid.

>>19888613
And you seem to be the biggest dick I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with

Throwing away troops for a ship we don't even need isn't a good risk/reward balance it is being greedy

Not being paranoid that our mostly happy populace is going to suddenly revolt for no reason also isn't being a wuss but reasonable expectation given WE ARE MORE FUCKING POPULAR THAN MOST GOVERNORS YOU FUCKING MORONIC CUNTSACK

>>19888608
Rodoris had shit troops and sided with the enemies of humanity.

He wasn't good at taking advantage of his position, and anyone who thinks he was isn't good at understanding 40K.

And nobody's going to hate us if we let the Iron Dragons continue the assault on the word of their own commanders.

The SPACE MARINES think it is a situation they'll handle in time, you want to gainsay them and are wrong.

>>19888639
indeed.

I say we let this whole legislature and government change on the afterburner, after we deal with the xeno mall, the hulk, the projects we have running and in afterburner and after we get a new planet by right of conquest.

just to be sure, we wont be cockblocked or otherwise


right now we are pretty secure in our position from both imperial and Daysimiran POV, and both POVs like us.

>>19888639
Yeah, our popularity's never taken a huge dive after spiking before.

WAIT, WAIT, IT DID

And all those troops that gave their lives to purge the genestealer threat, that was just a fluke that it didn't get us killed! SAME WITH THE TENS OF THOUSANDS REPELLING THE RAIDER'S GRIEF RAID.

Your understanding is unimpeachable, like the dictatorship you have such a hard-on for.

>>19888663
yup. let the SM do their thing.

but perhaps suggest we cut and cripple the chaos ship first from another direction , to cut down on the number of enemies that can ambush them.

at least they wont have to deal with the cultits. and the SoB might again try one for glory at hunting CSM without loosing to much in ambushes by cultist and the like. - to gain morale at least.

>>19888666
An afterburner? You mean 'the back burner?'

>>19888666
I think we should just put editors suggestion from >>19888052
And be done with this whole situation

And maybe a "YOU AREN'T ABOUT TO BE FUCKED OVER FOR NOT SUCKING EVERYONE'S DICK" word of god from gameroom would be nice so people could stop being such idiots about our popularity being too low

>>19888695
Let's go with that for now.

>>19888678
Have you ever fucking paid attention to what I am saying you colossal shitstain?

I am supporting the system editor proposed so that the majority could vote our powers out if it proved necessary and yet for apparently agreeing to the dictatorship but not wanting to throw our resources into a meat grinder I am bad at the 40k setting? I think you are bad at fucking anything relying on rubbing more than two brain cells together to troll.

>>19888684
This would be nice, at least remove their numerical advantage

>>19888608
>>19888637

The Diplomat checks in with the Queen and agrees, stating that they fear that it would be difficult to establish a new Hive Dynasty now, with the small fleet that the [UNTRANSLATABLE] was traveling with destroyed by the Chaos Warband that crippled the mother ship, resulting in it eventually becoming part of the Hulk. However, the chance of successfully carving a small empire of their own from the stars remains zero as long as they're cemented in the Hulk.

The Queen expresses her thanks through her agent for the offer of food resupply and maps, although they had not planned to stray this far from Hive space and will likely found their new household (If any) close enough to the main body of the Unified Hive to stay in contact for trade and military support.

>Action?
>Roll 2d100

>>19888721
>>19888684
Seconded, provided M'rak approves. Let the Marines decide what would be to their best benefit, they are very capable when it comes to boarding.

rolled 33, 17 = 50

>>19888743

rolled 77, 63 = 140

>>19888743
Get them to guide our troops.

Coordinate assaults aimed at encircling and eliminating enemy forces.

Place tracking beacons fucking everywhere.

Use the tracking beacon data to create a map of the hulk's interior and, if you get an 80% chance of clean shots with lance weapons and other penetrators at an area where enemy forces have massed, take it.

Cut out the AdMech cruiser while we have the chance, tow it to safety for later clearing.

Bombard concentrations of the spiders with EMP weapons. Outfit our teams with EMP and melta weapons as well. This should have the benefit of being effective against the orks and the spiders at the same time.

Ask the insectoids for tactical input and give it to them.

rolled 13, 77 = 90

rollan

>>19888743
Gameroom, for the record:

Is our popularity and the safety of our seat as governor more likely to stabilize and/or climb if we restore the old governmental system with the modifications I've proposed?

Are there still a number of factions on-world that actively dislike or oppose us or would prefer us gone?

Are there still likely to be significantly powerful groups open to the influence of machinating Eldar that might one day decide they want us gone?

>>19888842
And please give us an overview of what the popularity system means mechanically so that people can stop bitching about it

>>19888842
>>19888855
I think this would greatly help keeping arguing down to a minimum.

>>19888777
>>19888798
>>19888803

Your forces combine with the Insectoids following the Mechanical Spiders being routed and destroyed by waiting entrenched Imperials. Xin'Tar forces board the Spiders ship while your troops eliminate the remnant Orks.

The Iron Dragons dislike working alongside strange aliens with uncertain relations with the Imperium, but see that it is an opportunity to more easily remove a threat to the Imperium while preserving human lives, and the AdMech support any course of action that speeds removal of the Light Cruiser from the Hulk. The Sisters, on the other hand, are horrified by this decision and pull out support in the Wind of Skulls battle. -30 rep with the Sisters of Battle. Relations between the Sisters and Iron Dragons worsen. Relations between the AdMech and the Sisters slightly worsen.

Despite the lack of Sororitas support, the Iron Dragons are successful in their new assault, attacking through the Observation Deck to divert enemy forces from the hangers, retrieving dead and wounded, and then withdrawing to hit the enemy with precision bombardment and wait for life support to fail.

>Action?

>>19888907
Make sure we return bodies and equipment to the sororitas in order to start patching up any issues with them but leave it for now otherwise

See what the mechanicus has to say about the progress of getting the ships out and if they have any clue on what our timeframe for the hulk to phase back into the warp is if they have any clue

>>19888907
How the fuck the Sororitas, who were only supposed to be clearing the Chaos ship, were able to find out about private diplomatic arrangements that command and the Governor ordered undertaken on the Hulk, is beyond me. Are we just giving everyone the same channels now?

Quietly consolidate intelligence data on the xenos and see if it would be easy to kill them all in the event that you decided to dispose of them after their usefulness to you was at an end. Meaning, observe their numbers and see if anyone knows what they're vulnerable to - for example, insecticide. Don't make it obvious, just ask them how many forces they have available on the hulk and see if the AdMech know of any weaknesses.

We may be able to reverse the reputation loss in time.

Tow the chaos ship to a location where it can be watched carefully and bombarded with EMP weapons until everything on it is likely dead or hibernating, we'll be in a good position to reclaim it then.

Assault the remaining forces on the hulk.

>>19888963
And keep up the pace of cutting ships out of the thing.

>>19888960

Seconding.

>>19888842
>>19888855

Yes, it is. Especially if you state that more of the old system can be restored once the situation in the Sector has stabilized and point out how bad it is.

Unknown, but unlikely. No doubt many people would prefer their old system back, but it's not likely that there are hooded conspirators plotting your downfall. At least, not on YOUR world...

Unknown. Obvious candidate would be the Resistance, but they fought alongside the Eldar despite initial mistrust, not under them. The relationship appears to be closer to that between the population of Tanith and Biel-Tan, but with less Eldar Supremacy and a few Exodite Worlds thrown in.

Popularity is just that: A measurement of roughly how popular your regime is on a scale of 0-100. It does not reflect the percentage of the population that supports you, at least, not directly, but measures what your people think of you in general. If you want, you can conduct a detailed survey of what demographics support you the least/most and why, although your Citizens are not guaranteed to be 100% truthful.

Also forgot to mention in >>19888907 that your troops are being kitted out with tracking devices and EMP grenades/Melta grenades as fast as possible.

Also, the reason why the +15 bonus from previous threads is no longer applying is that most have the ships that composed the upper layers have been cut free, with the exception of the two upper layer Human Freighters, and the scans did not penetrate this far into the Hulk.

>Anything Else?

>>19888963
There was probably a large scale advisory to not shoot the bug people

>>19888994
What of the popularity meter determines how likely we are to get blown up because we farted in the general direction of a citizen? Because honestly it seems like we are doing pretty well but I seem to be the minority who isn't paranoid that we are going to die unless we bend over so far that our head touches the ground at all times

>>19888994
Implement scans as before.
Implement:
>>19888960
>>19888963
>>19888968
>>19888973


>>19888998
On dedicated voxnets used for people onboard the hulk, maybe!

We need to improve our fucking OpSec.

>>19889020
That's a given
We need to improve just about everything about our security though since it all seems to be so full of holes there isn't really anything holding it together between this and the infiltrators in our administration

>>19889018
I find that the best policy is to push the popularity meter as high as possible and keep it there.

As my instincts were good in resolving the Resistance dispute, the Ultramar negotiations, creating the settlement agreements and arrangements with the Sororitas, and using multiple speeches and other measures to get trust & popularity (back when trust was a thing) where they are now, I'm not going to start second-guessing myself when it comes to trusting my instincts and the PR and governmental strategies I'm persuing.

I don't think you would in my place.

>>19889035
To be fair, the infiltrators were inserted into Rodoris' administration by a former Inquisitor and removed from ours.

Nevertheless, you can bet we'll be overhauling intelligence operations soon enough.

>>19889049
I trust you editor
I just don't trust the guys from earlier screaming that we were going to be killed because we didn't ask permission to cough from our populace

>>19889070
I don't know that there's ever an argument in a Quest thread of all places that so desperately needs to be won as to somehow justify that kind of shit.

>>19889020

Done done done.

Time frame is unknown, as Space Hulks are not a well understood phenomenon. Time frame for cutting everything free is several weeks once main enemy forces have been destroyed, as the Hulk gets denser and it becomes harder to tell where one ship ends and another begins the further down you go.

>Roll 2d100 for Scan and Combat
>Action?

>Had a bigger and more detailed post, but I screwed up saving it and wound up with half a sentence preserved after Captcha ate it.

rolled 90, 75 = 165

roll

rolled 56, 5 = 61

>>19889097
It doesn't but it gets annoying, just like edition wars

>>19889121
What is our current financial situation? We should see about providing support for the families of the soldiers that died invading the chaos ship

>>19888907
How much rep do we have with the sisters now?

>>19889121
get 4chanx? you only need to retype the captcha if you fail, the thread gets auto refreshed while you type, the reply window floats so you can read the posts etc.

>>19889138
You fucking tard. Couldn't just stop rolling after that great 165, right?

>Action?
If we kill the hive queen, will the Unified Hive istantly know it? Will they know how the Queen died? Will they be able to see her death through her eyes, etc?

Otherwise we might be presenting the xeno's corpse to the Canoness and asking if she honestly thought we were going to do anything other than disposing of the xenos after using them.

What are the legislators saying about our proposal?

>istantly
instantly.

rolled 99, 75 = 174

>>19889121

>>19889132
>>19889171
Well, thank fuck for you two.

>>19889171
I wuv you

>>19889150
Fuck you I don't have 4chanx on my tablet and didn't refresh before posting because it didn't take me that long to type that up

>>19889236
Sorry, in that case you're just a lazy idiot, not a fucking tard. I apologise.

>>19889236
>>19889150
Let's cool off a bit there, guys. Rolls go however they go, strategy fixes the rest.

>>19889132
>>19889138
>>19889143

Combined, you are unstoppable. The remaining Tyranids, Orks, Traitors, Spiders and Genestealers are crushed as your forces cleanse hall after hall, deck after deck with las, grenade, bolter, or alien projectiles. The main bulk of your foes have been defeated, all that remain are clean-up operations and, of course, cutting.

Scan complete, your forces now have +8 to Combat on all future combat rolls.

Kruk ship is ready to be cut at a moments notice.

Cutting o the AdMech ship is mostly complete, but one of the Human Freighters currently being used as staging grounds is partially blocking it in. Removal of the Freighter will make removal of the Light Cruiser simpler.

Your total rep with the Sister is 30.

>Treasury: 50 C
>Von Braun Holdings: 18 C

>Action?

>>19889254
>Action?
I would like the answers to these questions:
>>19889157
As they will influence my next suggestion.

Aside from that, cut out the freighter and the light cruiser and all the rest.

Change orders for cutting and wreckage scanning to the ones that will give us the greatest chance of gaining the most from the hulk and damaging ships the least.

If possible, tow the hulk deeper into a gravity well of a moon or other suitable body. It'll be much harder for it to enter the warp when deep in a gravity well.

>>19889254
>Your total rep with the Sister is 30.

Oh boy, that's going to take some serious mending.

>The main bulk of your foes have been defeated, all that remain are clean-up operations and, of course, cutting.
Well, this is probably what we should be doing clean-up and cutting. And get the wounded and dead of that hulk.

>>19889171

Forgot to add this to

>>19889254

Result is the same.

Also, I would appreciate it if you guys would cool down a little and refrain from name calling, especially over something like /tg/ dice.

>>19889299
I have no problem until people start insulting me for things I don't actually control such as dice

>>19889254
Set aside 4c from government funds and 1c from personal in assistance to the families who lost people in the action to assist with costs of living etc until they adapt

>>19889157

No, not the the Techpriests knowledge.

>>19889341

Done.

>Treasury: 546 C
>Von Braun Holdings: 17 C

>>19889157
That is risky because she could still say it was wrong to use them at all but I like the idea

Also it might sit badly with our other allies and possibly xenos that might be contacted by these things if they have a mental link

>>19889341
I insulted you for not checking the thread before posting, not for the act of rolling dice itself.

But I'll keep quiet from now on and just bear with you.

>>19889341
1C = 1 billion thrones/credits.

As no more than five thousand spec ops were involved and the casualty count hadn't quite hit 700 before we assaulted the chaos raider, that's potentially splitting up five billion between a thousand families, which is five million per family.

If we ever have a large-scale war and this is the set precedent we will go bankrupt. This could also create accusations of favoritism.

Give them funerals with full honors and burial rights in the Capital memorial cemetary, standard reparations plus double hazard pay, and memorials, and spend 2C on developing a boarding operations training program at the academy.

>>19889157

I'm not really sure about that. While hating the xenos is always good and proper in the imperium, it could net us a reputation as a sub-par ally, if word gets out.

And I'm sure we'll have to rely on the Eldar on some point of time, with the state the sector's in.

>>19889393
>As no more than five thousand spec ops were involved and the casualty count hadn't quite hit 700 before we assaulted the chaos raider, that's potentially splitting up five billion between a thousand families, which is five million per family.

Maybe some kind of fund to provide cheaper housing, and job training for their families until they can stand on their own feet again? And perhaps a few scholarships in honour of the soldiers' sacrifice?

>>19889372
Easy there, Gameroom. Please consider >>19889393

Take some Iron Dragons commanders aside and ask them what they think of the idea of disposing of the xenos we allied with and if it would be an honorable act given the Imperium's policies.

If they don't like it, we don't try it.

If they do like it, we come in hard and overrun them and take their Queen's skull.

>>19889415
>Maybe some kind of fund to provide cheaper housing, and job training for their families until they can stand on their own feet again? And perhaps a few scholarships in honour of the soldiers' sacrifice?

Already in existence, and these are Spec Ops families largely recruited from the Resistance. They have five generations of scholarships, cheap taxes, etc. We're dangerously close to favoritism.

>>19889380
One step at a time. First, we ask the Space Marines if it's even a sane idea. If they say no, we have other things we can do to placate the Sororitas.

Couple of things. To those worrying about the legislative options, remember this: under the scheme they proposed we only have to control/be allied with 1/3rd of the legislative branch to be able to do whatever we want. As for the possibility of someone staging a coup with our pdf, well our troops are likley to tell this person to go to hell

>>19889429
Hm okay. And we managed to get rid off some of the best trained resistance guys there are. Not bad either.

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>>19889437
>placate the sororitas
>placate

you mean like in pic related?

>>19889418
Maybe we could leave it as a standing fund and not just split it amongst the families who lost people, then we are both showing we are taking care of those who lost something and looking to ensure any future losses are covered.

Reducing it is also fine though

>>19889382
And it doesn't change you from being a massive dick because it was one roll that was worse than the ones prior to it that really affected nothing

We seem to have attracted assholes lately. Fucking summer

>>19889442
> As for the possibility of someone staging a coup with our pdf, well our troops are likley to tell this person to go to hell

Depends who is staging the coup, I guess. If it was some former commander of the resistance, we'd better get off the planet as fast as we can.

>>19889454
I wouldn't put it past them

>>19889470
Yes. Because you know, after you set up a bitchin' operation that improved the life of almost everyone and promises to get better, got fucking Astartes here, showed how strong the united and improved military after straight-up fucking up a chaos raiding force etc. SOMEONE will just go "yeah this governor is shit, I can do better because RESISTANCE" and everyone will follow him
I mean I know it's summer but are you just plain retarded?

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>>19889454
>mfw

>>19889499
Don't even bother
I just tried arguing that for hours and got told I was a retard

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>>19889454
This thread is now about pedoSOBs.

>>19889457
We're going to need that money, and I think the next speech I write will cool a lot of heads. However, we will set up a charity fund soon.

>>19889470
See, this is why the new arrangement with the legislature using the representatives to guarantee military loyalty is awesome.

Now, the troops are loyal to their own people, government, etc. If some commander tries to stage a mutiny or coup, they're going to make him disappear up his own asshole because betrayal of their elected officials etc is against their loyalty oaths.

>>19889499
Did somebody run over your cat today?

>>19889525
I have no idea, I woke up half an hour ago and have no memory of yesterday past 10pm. So maybe.
Still doesn't make the "hurr resistance coup durrr" any less retarded

>>19889538
Thank fuck someone with half a brain besides editor has turned up then

>>19889538
Just wondering why there's such a lot of butthurt suddenly.

>>19889544
Because we have so many retarded assholes in here today

>>19889538
That's currently scorched earth you're walking on, Anon. The point has been effectively made, I think, but if you want to keep going it's not like anyone can stop you.

>>19889549
maybe if you stopped reacting with such hostility to them there wouldn't be all this singed sphincter sulphur everywhere
you're only propagating the cycle

We have the loyalty of the fleet anyway. Planetside resistance isn't going start shit with us without very good reason.

>>19889393
>>19889415
>>19889418

Previous instructions were to put negotiations with legislators on hold until the Space Hulk crisis was over. Do you want to re-open negotiations?

M'rak is...less than enthusiastic. Tactically, it is feasible, but he believes it to be dishonorable to turn on a former ally the moment it becomes convenient, even Xenos, and states that his Astartes will support you in this action, but nor will they interfere.

>Treasury alterations reversed until consensus is reached.

>Action?

>>19889565
I had no problems until people started insulting me for having a different opinion or god forbid daring to roll the dice when prompted and they have pissed me off to the point where I almost just said fuck it.

Right now I am trying not to keep snapping but it isn't exactly working

>>19889581
I'm not really happy about it, but I'd say we just let them go.

The marines are the more important allies, and I'm sure we'll be able to make up with the SoB somehow.

And we really need to keep this whole incident under wraps.

>>19889581
See what the mechanicus and our people think of the idea

If they are neutral or opposed then leave it

>>19889581
Leave the xenos alone. SoB can go choke on a dick as far as I'm concerned, maybe it will improve their mood. We'll get a load of dosh and loot off this hulk, we can pay them off later. However, getting a bad rep from cleaning up xeno allies would be much harder to negate.
Also cut up and clean up the hulk so we can get on POLITICS

>>19889499
Je's probably right that the ex resistance leader would probably have the best chance to convince people to back him. Though I doubt it would be a very good chance. As for backstabbing our xenos buddies, I would recommend against it, if only because our population would be rather against it.

>>19889620
I'm gonna give this one more post before I stop.
The populace wants protection from the Tau and general-ish independence.
Us: improved the PDF immensely, are getting together a fleet, starting to pull some influence strands in the inquisition and mechanicus, got the Astartes here, got the SoB here (though that's a mixed blessing), demonstrated the sheer amount of rape we can bring at the Chaos incursion and now on the hulk
Resistance leader: I'm resistance, fuck you. Yes, I'll be rather new to politics, have no backing from the Imperium and would start a brutal civil war again. But, but RESISTANCE!

>>19889581
Thank M'rak for his judgement in discerning the honor of the action and resolving the stance on Imperial policy towards Xenos. Tell him that were it not for his wisdom, we would have made a grave mistake. Invite him to send a delegation of Marines and Daysimiri followers of the Imperial cult to return the Sororitas' wounded and dead to their local installation.

Ask the local Imperial cult to contact them and inform them that their fallen comrades are being returned.

Price check on a series of shrines to the Imperial Saints important to the Sororitas placed in locations of great natural beauty across Daysimir. Saints to include: Anais, Arabella, Aspira, Celestine, Alicia Dominica, Katherine, Lucia, Mina, Praxedes, and Sylvana from this list: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Category:Characters_(Adepta_Sororitas)

These would be famous figures and founders of various orders of the Adepta Sororitas, and would be a HUGE boost to pilgrims and tourism - especially those seeking to join the Sororitas.

Ascertain the legislature's take on our offer of the system as modified above.

>>19889647
Not to mention we are on good terms with Davos and his men now

>>19889666
We even made it through the hazing, that means we aren't pledges any more, right?

>>19889618
>>19889615
>>19889610
Let's leave the xenos for now, deliver the food and maps and cut them out of the hulk.

If the SoBs have anything to say about it they're welcome to assault the xenos with any forces they care to muster to resolve the matter.

>>19889672
Yep, there was even nearly a "just fuck already" moment from some of the people present for the event and when he apologized

>>19889676
>>19889661
>>19889620

seconding

>>19889610
>>19889615
>>19889618
>>19889661

M'rak thanks you for heeding his counsel. He agrees to personally lead the delegation.

The main legislators say that they find it generally agreeable, but would rather discuss it with you in person some time in the near future.

Simple statues for 2 C, Polished for 5 C, grand for 8 C, or Great for 10 C? Will you be putting these monuments in protected areas and parks as well?

>Roll 3d100 for Hulk actions, and something else.
>Other

>Word of Quest Runner: You won't actually get popularity loss from not personally overseeing the operation, although you'd probably have gotten it if you were feasting and partying with the Von Braun Clan while the battle was going on. Now that major enemy forces have been crushed you are free to pursue other matters.
>Also holy fuck it's almost 7:00 AM, let's wrap this up with final; actions and rolls.

I think we really need to address the Van Braun issue. This kind of networking and alliance is something we can't miss, and I feel it should be our number 1 priority after the space hulk.

I like to think we left quite an impression in their minds as they docked at our planet, seeing astartes, skitarii and legion upon legion of guardsmen successfully capturing a space hulk

>>19889676
>>19889672

Done.

He claims it was an accident...

rolled 53, 5, 24 = 82

>>19889765
I think grand. Might as well go all out and shut them up

Agreed go start politicking

>>19889785
Yeah, it was an amusing accident when all was said and done

rolled 6, 7, 41 = 54

>>19889765
Whatever we chose to do, most of the funds, if not all, should come out of our pocket.
We're trying to atone for straying off the path. I think it will seem a lot more sincere if it actually hurts us, at least financially.

>Will you be putting these monuments in protected areas and parks as well?
Put the more agreeable ones in more popular places. I'm not saying Saint Murderface, the killer of 10000 orphans who didn't say their prayers properly shouldn't get a statue, but it should not have to be the biggest nor the one placed in the most popular park.

>>19889768
I agree, it would be a nice first impression.

>>19889765
Great Statues, 10C, smaller than the ones of the Primarchs in our capital city but not by much, and put them in manicured parks with good protection in locations that are famed for the impact the natural landscape has on the viewer. Though these are to be shrines or small temples.

Tell the local Imperial Cult and have them contact the Sororitas about returning their dead and wounded, etc.

After we take care of that, we need to meet with Mirak, the Departmento rep, under the statue of Malcador at the palace.

>>19889768
The Clan is happy to stay for as long as we'll welcome them, but the Rogue Traders and Xeno Traders aren't, and we can only see them after the AdMech fleet leaves, and we can only negotiate with the AdMech after strengthening our position in terms of tech heresy for later leverage which requires agreement from the Legislature, Iron Dragons, and engineers.

Also, the longer the clan stays the longer we get to observe them and find out which ones are cool and which ones are corrput fucks, etc.

So, y'know, party time.

>>19889825
Welp, so much for the 30% chance to roll even worse than the guy before me.

rolled 84, 49, 91 = 224

>>19889825
>Whatever we chose to do, most of the funds, if not all, should come out of our pocket.
>We're trying to atone for straying off the path. I think it will seem a lot more sincere if it actually hurts us, at least financially.

This is actually part of our deal with the SOB order, and as such is a public affair. It'll also boost tourism.

rolled 6, 36, 3 = 45

>>19889765

rolled 32, 38, 3 = 73

>>19889765
Okay, rolling. Guess my chances to lower the average are pretty slim.

>>19889852
Thank god for one good set of rolls in the batch

>>19889852
THANK YOU

>>19889794
>>19889825
>>19889870
Fucking dice.

>>19889874
>>19889870
>>19889794
>>19889852
>>19889825

Wow, only one roll manages to beat 151.5. I guess the dice function isn't really that well done.

Welp. Maybe my luck will be good this time...

rolled 70, 92, 61 = 223

>>19889893
Hurr. Got tired I guess.

>>19889898
Well, holy shit, I actually did okay.

>>19889898
Haha and now editor comes through with his forgotten dice and blows that away

This whole statue thing to appease the Sisters is a little transparent. Wouldn't we be better off taking the hit to our rep with them and keeping our money?

We can explain why we did it - the battle against the archenemy must always come first - and just leave it.

Buying statues isn't going to make them feel substantially better towards us. In fact we'd be better off spending it on their moon base, at least that's a practical outlet for our cash.

>>19889963
I agree with this. Give them something substantial, like money for gear and shit.

>>19889963
We're doing it to fulfill our obligation to them as per thread eight here: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19243277

Whether or not it is a transparent act, it's what we said we would do.

>>19889963
They likely wouldn't take it directly since it would be seen as a bribe or some bullshit like that

And they can't just snub us if we make them some great statues dedicated to their saints without losing what little face they have with the populace and causing some internal strife as we are proving our piety while explaining that we fought the greater of two evils as you suggested

Sadly these sororitas aren't very liberal ones

>>19889963
>>19889976
>>19889994
It doesn't matter whether or not the local bunch think we're bribing them.

We said we would bring an influx of the Faith to Daysimir in the form of pilgrims that they could recruit from.

We're doing that in a way that might influence Adepta Sororitas from all kinds of orders, militant or otherwise.

You guys didn't forget the Ordo Hospitallier that's coming in our direction, did you?

>>19890005
Hospitaller on the planet, Militant on the moon. That was the deal, right?

>>19890005
>Ordo Hospitallier
>Order Hospitallier. God fucking dammit, I need sleep.

>>19889986
Ah, I remember that now. I guess it really won't do much for our rep then if we already promised it. I suppose we have to deliver though.

>>19890013
The moon base for the Sisters Militant of the Order of Sworn Swords was part of the deal, but since we have not yet met with the Sisters Hospitallier we have no arrangements with them as of yet.

Regardless of that, it'd be pretty fucking useful to have these statues built for when the Sisters Hospitallier come to visit if we want to convince them to base off of Daysimir permanently.

>>19890005
No I meant the sororitas would say we are bribing them not our people

Our people would just as soon we tell the sororitas to GTFO

>>19890020
It'll do plenty for our rep when we follow through and the Canoness of the local bunch or the one in charge of the entire Order of Sworn Swords notes the influx of recruits and the teeming masses of Imperial Cult pilgrims on one of her monthly visits to the surface that we're going to organize.

It won't do anything for our rep if we don't do it.