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Old thread is here:
>>19663543

Mainly we're just statting servants for the fuck of it, and considering where to put all the Fate/tg/ stats we've created in one place for future reference.
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>>19674077
Some Servants statted up.


Germanicus Julius Caesar
Saber

Strenght:B
Endurance:A
Agility:C
Mana:D
Luck:C

Noble Phantasm

Triumphus - The Sword of Rome: The Triumphus is the highest gift any roman can have receive from it's country and it's usually given at it's Emperors. Germanicus was the last citizen to receive this legendary gift and so he carries with pride. It's a a fairly simple Spatha but anyone who looks at it will sense a great power within it, as the sword carries the pride of the longest empire in the whole earth.
Triumphus while not a particularly powerful sword when compared to the other legendary ones, it will make lesser opponents cower instantly to the user and make it's user allies rally stronger to his cause.
Rank C

Teutoberg Forest - The Bloody Revenge of the Roman Legions: The Battle of the Teutoberg Forest was one of the biggest disasters that ever happened in Roman Military History, where over 20,000 romans were killed and one of the Legendary Eagles was lost in battle, and Germanicus whole military carreer was about revenging this shameful defeat.
Teutoberg Forest is a reality marble where Germanicus transforms the world into the so fated forest, where 20,000 butchered roman corpses were left hangeds in the inumerous trees, and with an enraged Germanicus appears 8 mighty bloodthirsty for revenge roman legions, who will then use a ferocious charge at the enemy.
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>>19674102
Baron Samedi
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Strength: E
Endurance: E
Agility: C
Mana: A
Luck: B

Special Ability - Friends on the Other Side (Voodoo Magic): Baron Samedi's magic is particularly oriented towards control of dark spirits, loa and the boundaries of life or death. Through his magic, the Baron is able to summon spirits, bind spirits to bodies and he's capable of powerful restorative magic or debilitating curses. Treat any defensive magic that Baron Samedi performs relating to his voodoo knowledge as B rank thaumaturgy. Treat offensive voodoo magic as C rank thaumaturgy. Treat any magic used from outside his regular domains as D rank thaumaturgy.

Noble Phantasm: Things I Haven't Even Tried (D - A++ Anti-Person)
The Baron is a master at sympathetic magic. Items and knowledge he possesses of the target of his magic increase his magical potency. This Noble Phantasm can cause Baron Samedi's thaumaturgy to increase in rank based on how much knowledge he has about them or any items he has of theirs, a common item or a servants true name would cause all his magic to go up by one rank, a vial of blood - two ranks, stealing a noble phantasm or an artifact related to that hero's legend would cause all his magic to go up by 4 ranks, up to a maximum of A++.

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>>19674119
Noble Phantasm: I Am You (A)
The Baron is really just the true spirit of Baron Samedi acting through the spirit of the human most like him upon summoning, the spirit is not Samedi, but Samedi acts through it. Should the spirit be on the verge of destruction, the spirit of the true Samedi may jump to the Master and act through him (completely overriding the Masters free will). This technique can be used in situations where the Servant does not risk destruction (such as in cases of extreme need by the Master) but for its duration it leaves the spirit that Samedi normally 'rides' essentially a lifeless defenseless husk. The Master retains all access to noble phantasms that Samedi possesses, and full use of all of his powers for as long as Samedi is "riding" him.

Parameters:

Territory Creation : B - Samedi can create a workshop (where he more easily casts curses, summons spirits and works his voodoo).
Charisma : A - Samedi is a ruler of spirits, this skill downgrades one rank when interacting with non-spirit entities.
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There's my old Harun al-Rashid write-up in the original build thread. Has everything but I think actual letter ratings for stats.
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Does this statting include skills? Because that Achilles is just sitting there without even ranks.
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>>19674146
Go ahead and post it.
My personal favorite, though as it was made by me, I'll admit the effect of bias.
Class: Saber
Name: Beowulf
Alignment: Neutral Good
Strength: A
Endurance: B
Agility: D
Mana: C
Luck: B

Ability: Monster Slayer (B+): Beowulf inflicts more damage against anything with beastial or draconic traits.

Noble Phantasm: Hrunting, Sword of the Red Plains (C+)
Hrunting is a incredibly sharp blade, able to cut through almost any substance. However, it cannot damage anything constructed magically.

Noble Phantasm: Naegling, The Unfailing Blade (B+)
Naegling is Beowulf's trusted family blade. While it caps his strength at C, it at the same time increases his damage against monsters and dragons, as well as boosting his Endurance, Luck, and Agility to A.

Noble Phantasm: Bypassing the Hide (B)
No matter the defenses, Beowulf can use his Strength to break through. He can forgo the use of his swords to boost his Strength to A+, and attempt to simply rip his target in half. This attack must be contested with the target's Strength.
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>>19674171
If you want to include skills go ahead. I try to include a couple each time.


Altair
Class: Assassin
Alignment: True Neutral
STR: C
END: D
AGI: B
MANA: C
LUCK: C+
Ability: Mental Pollution (C)
Altair's devotion to the Creed is such that little clouds his mind.
Ability: Vision of the Eagles (A)
Altair sees the world in a very unique way. These mystic eyes tell friend from foe.
Ability: Presence Concealment (A): Altair was never discovered or found out during his lifetime as an hassassin.

Noble Phantasm: Zabanyia - The Piece of Eden (A)
Altair's greatest weapon. Capable of bringing entire armies to his side, or melting the mind of lesser men. This Phantasm forces opponents to make a Luck check to resist it, and if failed, become either his to command, or kill themselves in an attempt to escape out of the sheer mindblowing power of the artifact. Even those uneffected are filled with an overwelming sense of fear of the Assassin.

Noble Phantasm: Zanbanyia - The Hidden Blade (C)
The favored tool of Altair throughout his life, the hidden blade is a blade attached to the wrist, and can be deployed at will. Demanding total commitment from it's wielder, Altair sacrifices his ringfinger to use this weapon. Capable of punching through the strongest of armor, and resisting the mightiest of blows, yet small enough to slip through the gaps between the ribs with ease. Altair can use this weapon without breaking his Presence Concealment. Outside of Presence Concealment however, it's rank drops down to E, and it loses much of it's damaging properties.
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El Cid
Rider
STR: C
END: D (With Exception: See Valencia Heart)
AGI: B
MAN: B
LUK: E
Noble Phantasm: Babeica
Rank: B
Type: Anti-Army
A horse of perfect breeding and loyalty. Babeica can be summoned at any time by El Cid, regardless of surroundings, the horse will always arrive healthy and intact. While riding Babeica, El Cid cannot be stopped by barriers of any sort - magical, physical, or martial (such as armies). However, it has the stamina of a mundane, if perfect horse, and thus cannot run forever.

Noble Phantasm: Army From Nothing
Rank: A
Type: Anti-Army
Possessing great charisma and ability of leadership, El Cid can draw men into battle seemingly with disregard to context. Individuals are drawn to his prescence, and are granted weapons and armor from a Reality Marble that does not manifest externally, holding 'the equipment an army needs'. Those who weild these sub-Phantasms and wear his armor become lesser Servants, with no noble phantasms of their own and Rank E abilities.

Noble Phantasm: Tizon
Rank: C
Type: Anti-Unit
A sword imbued with fire. Said to inspire fear in others, which manifests as a simple spell that most magically-resistant Servants can dispel. However, on normal humans and Masters, it might cause them to flee.

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>>19674266
Noble Phantasm: Colada
Rank: D
Type: Anti-Unit
An 'untouchable' sword. Said to possess the ability to never erode, break, or become dirty. Similar to Tizon's fear ability, Colada is imbued with the same - though this one works over a much wider area, for Colada shines even in the darkest night.

Noble Phantasm: Valencia Heart
Rank: B
If El Cid's heart is peirced and the blow is lethal, El Cid does not dissipate. His body becomes incapable of action, but his army grows in strength, becoming C-Rank in all attributes and weilding E-rank sword-shaped Noble Phantasms with no special abilities. To anyone in the army, El Cid persists as a powerful illusion, leading his men from atop his horse.

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Lovecraft
Berserker Class


STR: C
END: C
AGI: C
MAN: D
LUK: D

Skills:

Mad Enhancement : At the cost of mental acuity, Lovecraft has been granted otherworldly strength and power.


Noble Phantasm: Beast Within
Rank: C

Lovecraft's eternal foes, the Elder Ones, have planted a 'seed' within him. Whenever Lovecraft is in combat, he may randomly summon Beast-class Servants. These Servants draw mana and prana for their abilities from the Master.

Noble Phantasm: The Forgotten City
Rank: EX

Lovecraft can bend the space of a large area, randomizing where doors and paths lead entirely. This ability manifests whenever Lovecraft is in danger, and its unpredictability may lead to a tactical disadvantage.

Feeling kinda lonely here.
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>Simo Häyhä
>Strength: E
>Endurance: EX
>Agility: C
>Mana: E
>Luck: A

>Weapons
Mosin-Nagant M28 "Pystykorva"
Suomi KP/31 submachinegun
Simo can spawn ammunition for these weapons in the appropriate feeding devices, but only in his pockets or pouches. Weapons still have to be loaded manually.

>Ability: Breathless (B)
Simo can stay unseen with ease, having evaded counter-snipers, artillery-strikes and a full infantry battalion. This ability raises one rank if the terrain is familiar (needs to scout it once) to Simo. If he is not appropriately camoflaged for the area he's in, the ability lowers a rank, and cannot benefit from the familiar terrain bonus.

>Fantasm: White Death (EX)
A white, brightly glowing bullet. It contains relatively little mana, but it's concentrated enough in that little projectile to pierce any armor without fail. If Simo is detected, the bullet may be dodged if the Servant's Agility stat is high enough. The requirement drops as range increases, due to the flight time of the bullet. The second limitation is ammunition. Simo only has 5 cartridges loaded with these special bullets. For ease of carry, they are stored in a standard stripper clip, but they can be used individually like any other cartridge.
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I love this one just for how crazy it is.

ackie Chan

>Class: Assassin/Rider/Berserker/Lancer
>Alignment: Lawful Good
>Strength: E
>Endurance: B
>Agility: A++
>Mana: E

>Luck: D

>Noble Phantasm: Don't Want Annie Trabble A++
As long as Jackie Chan is defending himself, or his master, and is unarmed or using an improvised weapon, his Agility, Luck, and Endurance become A+ Rank.

Regardless of the above, if Jackie is ever holding a baby, raise his Endurance, Agility and Mana to EX. If Jackie is ever in a ladder factory, on a ladder, or within 100' of a ladder or fire excape, raise his Strength and Luck to EX.
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>>19674077
>and considering where to put all the Fate/tg/ stats we've created in one place for future reference.
Shouldn't that be 1d4chan?
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This is possibly the scariest motherfucker that could be summoned in a Grail War outside of Gilgamesh.

>Rider: Patient Zero/The Pale Rider, the first bringer of sickness and the epidemic he unwittingly unleashed on his community. Their names have been lost to history and they now only serve as personifications of the devastating power of disease.
>Strength: E
>Endurance: C
>Agility: E
>Mana: A
>Luck: E

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is there an internet dumping ground for servants people have thought up?
it's such a dick when everyone starts ideas from scratch every time, and I'm assuming other fate fans have done it before
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>>19674404
>Noble Phantasms:
>Rank B++: Miasma-- The Air that Brings The Stench of Death
Patient Zero can exude a mist from its mouth that brings with it the stink of disease. Anyone who breathes this in will be afflicted with its effects: normal humans will die painfully, while Magi will receive constant damage. Servants receive a Rank Down in Endurance.
>Rank C++: Infection-- The Spreading Sickness
Patient Zero can inflict sickness on people simply by touching them with one hand. Used on a normal person, it renders that person comatose and susceptible to Rider's possession, while Magi will receive constant damage for a certain period of time and Servants will be momentarily stunned (as they get overwhelmed by nausea) and receive a Rank Down in Endurance. Can only be used at point-blank range.
>Rank C: Incubation Period-- The Hidden Vector
The Pale Rider can move into any body rendered comatose by Touch of Death. This kills its current vessel and the new body, but in 24 hours it transforms its new body into a perfect copy of Patient Zero-- unless it is intercepted or the host is killed before it is fully transformed, in which case the Pale Rider appears in its true form, a shapeless black cloud. While outside of a host, the Pale Rider is completely vulnerable.
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>>19674410
I don't think so, but we could use 1d4chan as >>19674397 suggested.
>>19674437
>Rank EX: The Walking Dead-- The Dead Are Without Number
Emerging from Patient Zero (and killing him), the Pale Rider splits its essence to create a horde of walking corpses, Rank E Servants with the Infection Noble Phantasm, except that its downgrade to E means it can only spread the infection via contact of infected fluids with mucous membranes, like a bite. He can fuse these corpses together to create more powerful Servants. A "zombie apocalypse" type of Noble Phantasm, it is more useful with a constant source of bodies, like a hospital. However, killing all of the corpses created with this will permanently kill the Pale Rider.
Pale Rider (and Patient Zero by extension) have the following abilities:
>Riding: A-- Pale Rider can infect animals as well as people. Vehicles, on the other hand... it lets Patient Zero handle them.
>Bloated Endurance: C-- Patient Zero is extremely resistant to pain due to being essentially a walking, disease-ridden corpse. Raises Endurance by one rank.
>Self-Modification: A-- The Pale Rider twists its subjects' looks so they become proper avatars of Pestilence.
>Mental Pollution: EX-- Pale Rider is so utterly inhuman that it essentially shuts out almost all attempts at magical interference by sheer dint of being an eldritch entity and by Patient Zero being brain-dead.
>Aura of Revulsion: EX-- The ability to cause disgust and nausea simply by being seen. Because disease and pollution are two of man's primal fears, Pale Rider and Patient Zero's rank in this skill is EX.
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Do keep in mind - since the limitations for the next Grail in my quests have been heavily loosened, there is a chance that anyone posted could be included.
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>>19674346
I think this one should be more balanced.
Seriously, the whole "baby and ladder factory" thing is overdone. Make it a more general thing, something like "every object in the general area around him allows him to raise some of his ranks".
Also, there's a stat that raises your ranks when you are defending someone.
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>>19674489
Guardian Knight, yeah.
>Arjuna
>Alignment: Lawful Good
>Strength: C
>Endurance: D
>Agility: C
>Mana: C
>Noble Phantasm: C to A
>Luck: B

>Noble Phantasm:
>Rank C++-- Gandiva: The Invincible Bow of Victory
>The bow given to Arjuna by Indra, it comes with a quiver of infinite arrows and lets Arjuna fire his other two Phantasms. The twang of the bow has a sound like the cracking of thunder, so while it gives the arrows piercing power, it makes stealthy shooting harder.

>Rank B-- Vajra: The Diamond Thunderbolt of Heaven
>Once every three days, Arjuna may invoke Indra's name in a prayer. The result is that the next arrow Arjuna fires becomes an extremely fast attack that can penetrate any defense: as fast as lightning, as strong as diamond. However, Arjuna must keep the arrow on the string for five seconds before it can be launched as a Vajra shot.

>Rank A-- Brahmashira: Oh Brahma, Sunder the Earth
>Once each week, Arjuna can pray to Brahma to use this weapon, which is a single, powerful prana-charged shot that creates an explosion comparable to a bomb. Like Karna's version of the Phantasm, it can only be used on those with weaker abilities than himself. It also can't be supercharged with prana, and drains a lot of his prana.

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The Viking at Stamford Bridge - Berserker

STR: B
END: A
AGI: B
MANA: E
LUCK: D

Skills:
Mad Enhancement (C) - Rank up for all parameters except Luck and Mana, but in exchange one can no longer think and speak properly.

Battle Continuation (A) - Makes possible to fight even with deadly injuries and can remain alive so long as one does not receive a decisive fatal wound.

Noble Phantasms:

Permission to Die Honorably (A) - The Viking at Stamford Bridge cannot be harmed by frontal attacks whatsoever. The only way to hurt him is from behind, and such attacks deal normal damage.

Impassable Resolve (C) - The Viking at Stamford Bridge can set an area as his "Bridge". While he is in this area, physical parameters increase by one rank.


Simple, but absurdly resilient.
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>>19674513
Arjuna has the special abilities:
> Independent Action: B- Allows Arjuna to operate without a Master for three days.
> Divinity: A- As the son of Indra and having joined his brothers in the heavens after death, Arjuna has the highest rank in this attribute, like his half-brother Karna.
> Riding: A- Qualifies Arjuna for Rider class.
> Magic Resistance: C
> Eternal Arms Mastership: B- Prevents degradation of fighting skills when under the effect of mental hindrance. Arjuna's rank in this is lower since Karna is thought of as the superior warrior, though Arjuna is still the better archer.

A side note: Gandiva can be taken apart to create two golden curved blades: to ready the bow, the ends of the blades' hilts are attached to each other.

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you should really include a short blurb with each of these about who they are
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Rider: Steve Irwin
>Strength: B
>Endurance: A
>Speed: C
>Mana: D
>Phantasm: B
>Luck: B

>Noble Phantasm: Life Of A Hunter
Steve Irwin's life was dedicated to an endless chain of hunting, and as such cannot successfully fight without choosing his prey. Selecting a class of servant (or a master, should the name be known) will allow Steve Irwin to use his other phantasms against the chosen servant and master. All other servants consider him one rank lower for every attribute but Luck, which becomes E. Additionally, he cannot use his phantasms against them. This will not change unless the prey he has chosen is killed, or a command seal is used.

>Noble Phantasm: Beast Tamer
Steve Irwin has defeated many beasts stronger, faster and more cunning than him, and his link with the land connects him with those he has conquered. Steve Irwin can call the beings he has faced to aid him in battle, along with anything lower on the food chain. Should a Servant be killed by him, he gains a one-time ability to call upon their aid for five minutes.

>Noble Phantasm: A Fool's Immortality
Steve Irwin has survived countless fatal encounters, and by normal logic it should have been impossible to live to the age he did. Should Steve Irwin engage in dangerous activities, his Luck is considered one rank higher, and only damage to his heart will kill him.
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>>19674572
Yeah. We SHOULD. But there is always Google.


Teddy Roosevelt
>Class: Rider
>Alignment: Chaotic Awesome
>Strength: A++
>Endurance: B
>Agility: C
>Mana: E
>Luck: A+

>Noble Phantasm: Speak Softly
As long as Roosevelt has no allies, treat his Mana stat as the same rank as his Strength stat.

>Noble Phantasm: A Big Stick B+
Roosevelt's trusty hunting rifle. Unless a Noble Phantasm of equal or greater rank is used to oppose, this rifle always hits its target. Roosevelt can command this rifle to fire any ammunition, even if no rifle could feasibly fire it.

>Noble Phantasm: Bull Moose A
The first time that Roosevelt would be killed, instead he is raised at half of his full strength.
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>>19674572
The Viking at Stamford Bridge was a Norseman whose sole duty was to defend his camp from invading English while they organized for battle. For an hour, this lone man stood resolute, slaughtering every Anglo in front of him with an absolute disregard for self-preservation. However, he was struck down when one man floated a barrel underneath the bridge and attacked him with a spear from below.
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>Ivan IV Vasilyevich
>Beserker
>Alignment: Lawful Evil
>Strength: C
>Endurance: B
>Agility: E
>Mana: B+
>Luck: B+

The Spirit appears as a tall, dark haired man with calloused, wrinkled skin and piercing dark eyes. He stands tall and straight like an immovable pillar against fate and garbed in royal furs, jewels, and gold befitting a great king. Yet when he speaks, naught comes out but Biblical ramblings and truly, one can see madness in his fervent gaze.

>Noble Phantasm: Absolute Edict
>Ivan was characterized largely by his style of politics: absolute control and a hatred of nobles. In life he may have held political power, but as a Heroic(HA!) Spirit, this extends into the mystical as well. Absolute Edict is a heavy, 3 foot long golden mace that will instantly nullify any magical constructs (including other noble phantasms) of C rank or less at a touch. Against those of noble birth, Absolute Edict nullifies any magical constructs of B rank or less.
>Rank B

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Julie D'Aubigny - L'aupin

>Saber
>Alignment: Chaotic Good
>Strength: C+
>Endurance: E
>Agility: A
>Mana: B
>Luck: A+

>Skill - Audacity (A)
D'Aubigny does not have a weapon noble phantasm, but rather one based on her own audacity. The more difficult a task is, the easier it is for her to achieve it. Ergo, any negative penalties she should take instead become positive.

>Noble Phantasm - Elegant Duellist (B)
With a single handed weapon, count D'Aubigny's Strength and Agility as one rank higher

>Noble Phantasm - Enchanting Voice (B)
D'Aubigny had a famously enchanting voice, used in both her opera and in her... dalliances. When she uses the power of her voice, all attention comes to her and as long as she remains singing, everyone suffers a Rank reduction to combat stats.

(Even had the corrections you suggested.)
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>>19674623
Beowulf killed Grendel, a massive Ogre, and his mother, ruled a kingdom for 50 years, and died in battle with a dragon. He killed the dragon.
>>19674626
>Whispers of Angels
By far, Ivan was most known for his periods of insanity, during which he claimed God spoke to him through His Messengers. While most believe his psychosis and paranoia were due to his blood and attempted treatments, there may have been some truth to that. Ivan cannot speak intelligibly; he only spews out verses of holy scripture that are jumbled together and frankly confusing. Rather than insanity, this is a side effect of Ivan's connection to the Divine. Ivan has startlingly accurate precognitive visions of the immediate future, though their meaning is not always clear, nor can they be reasonably conveyed. This significantly boosts his otherwise mediocre combat capabilities. In addition, Ivan will instantly know the True Identity of a fellow Heroic Spirit after 24 hours since their first meeting.
>Rank EX

>Healing Mercury
>Ivan's chronic arthritis was frequently treated by large doses of mercury. While this seldom worked, it has given Ivan a rather unique Noble Phantasm. A small vial of silver liquid hangs around his neck. Once per Grail War, any servant can ingest this potent mixture to unlock some of his inner ability. The servant is instantly cured of all wounds and permanently switches their Strength and Agility with their Mana and Luck respectively. In addition, the imbiber's toughness is increased by one level. However, partaking in this toxic drink prevents the servant from accessing any Noble Phantasms (besides weapons) or using magic for the rest of the war.
>Rank A
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>Isaac Newton
>Caster
>Alignment: Lawful Neutral
>Strength: E
>Endurance: E
>Agility: C
>Mana: A
>Luck: A

>Item Construction: A
>Territory Creation: A
>Magecraft: A

>Personal Ability: Opticks
Can create illusions by magically bending light, see objects closer than they appear to be and functions as a scry.
>Rank: B

>Noble Phantasm: Principia
Creates a Reality Marble in which the Laws of Motion are subject to the whims of Newton. This ability is actually True Magic thanks to...
>Rank: A++

>Noble Phantasm: Philosopher's Stone
Newton secretly created the ultimate Alchemical goal. The power of the philosopher's stone is the ability to artificially create True Magic. He does not share this ability with anyone. Newton always kept secrets to himself.
>Rank: EX
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Carl Jung
Caster
>Alignment: True Neutral
>Strength: E
>Endurance: C
>Agility: D
>Mana: A
>Noble Phantasm: A
>Luck: C

>Territory Creation: A
>Item Construction: C
>Magecraft: C

Carl Jung is skilled in illusions and imagery, adept at creating labyrinthine landscapes that reflect the true nature of his opponent's minds and souls. Only servants possessing true sight or madness enhancements are immune to his abilities.

>Noble Phantasm - Rank A "Individuation"
Jung is capable of identifying any servant with significant ties to a major religion or belief system, including knowing their true name and the nature of their noble phantasms.

>Noble Phantasm - Rank A "Anthroparion"
Twice during a given lunar cycle, under a full or new moon, Jung may create a homunculi capable of independent thought and action. Although typically born to serve as Jung's personal assistants, they may be bred for battle and stat-ed as low tier servants.

As fully realized creations, rather than familiars, they have the ability to act and think for themselves, and may or may not go along with Jung's wishes. Additionally, they are capable of persisting indefinitely in this world even in the event of the caster's death.
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>>19674687
BROKEN! SO BROKEN!
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>>19674687
>isaac newton had the philosopher's stone
wat
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>>19674720
Welcome to the Grail War. If it isn't broken in some way, you're doing it wrong. Case in point, see the picture.


Perseus
Class: Rider
Alignment: Chaotic Good?
Strength: B
Endurance: C
Agility: C
Mana: B
Luck: A

Skill: Divinity (B): Born of Zeus, King of the Gods, who conceived him in the form of a shower of gold. Kinky.

Noble Phantasm: Aegis - Shield of Athena (B)
This shield returns the effects of mystic eyes back on their user, and reduces the effect of any energy based attack by one rank.

Noble Phantasm: Sandals of Hermes (A)
With this phantasm, Perseus moves as fast as the God of Messengers (Agility: A++), or fly for short periods of time

Noble Phantasm: Harpe - Blade of Many Cuts (B)
The scythe like spear that decapitated the monster Medusa. It seems to strike from many angles. In reality, it attacks through a portal. It bypasses any divine protection.

Noble Phantasm: Helm of Hades (A)
Possibly the most powerful phantasm in his armory. Renders the user undetectable to any form of detection. Even the most powerful mystic eyes cannot see through this gift of the god of the dead. Grants Presence Concealment (EX) for a short time the first time it is used. Afterwords, it only grants invisibility.

Noble Phantasm: Head of Medusa (C)
Petrifies those who gaze into its eyes. Can be resisted with a Magic Resistance of C or higher, and has no effect on someone who has already seen it.
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>>19674739
He was into alchemy. I'd have given it to Nicholas Flamel, but that's just me.
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Samson

Class: Berserker


>Alignment: Chaotic Good
>Strength: A
>Endurance: A
>Agility: B
>Mana: E
>Luck: D

>Skill: Mad Enhancement (EX)
So long as Samson's hair remains free and untouched, Samson is considered to be under the stat-effecting boost of Mad Enhancement (Rank A). If he is ever shorn, he loses the abilities of all his Noble Phantasms. Samson can fly into a blind rage is goaded, but otherwise is only moderately out of touch with reality.

Noble Phantasm: Ass's Jaw
Rank B
An ancient legend tells of when Samson, at the height of his power, destroyed a great many Philistines with an improvised weapon. In some lore, it is his bare hands, in others, an ass's jaw. Due to the many apocryphas and translations of the Bible, Samson is capable of using any weapon as if it were his own Noble Phantasm, replacing this NP with that one. If it was not magical, then it gains a magical rank of C, if it is but has a lower rank, it is uplifted. Any weapon used this way must be discarded at the end of battle, and never used for this purpose again.
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>>19674849
Noble Phantasm: Temple of Dagon

When he lost his power and was chained to the Temple of Dagon, Samson prayed to God for a final burst of might, so he might destroy his enemies even at the cost of himself. This ability is only usable when Mad Enhancement is gone, and requires a use of a Command Seal to use.

Samson draws all the Mana from the surrounding area, and draws all the Prana from his Master. He expends this all in one great, empowering surge of might, in an attempt to finish off the foe before him. Once finished, he dematerializes, whether he succeeds or not.

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Class: Caster
Name: Morgan le Fay

Strength: E
Endurance: D
Agility: C
Magical Energy: A
Luck: C

Class Abilities
Territory Creation: B
Item Construction: B

Noble Phantasm
Accolon
Rank: E-A++
Morgan le Fay steals an enemy's weapon, shield, armor, or accessory type Noble Phantasm and replaces it with a mundane replica. Only Noble Phantasm's whose name is known may be stolen, and only one Noble Phantasm may be stolen at a time. The change happens without anyone being aware except for Morgan until the phantasm is invoked, at which point the fake one breaks. The only way to retrieve the phantasm is to either take it back from Morgan or kill her.

Mark of the Green Knight
Rank: A+
Transforms a willing target into the Green Knight. If the subject is a human, they gain the physical abilities of a servant, granting them Strength B, Agility D, and Endurance C. If the target is already a servant, all of their physical parameters improved by one rank. While in the guise of the Green Knight, the target gains A+ regeneration, healing any damage received from attacks of a lesser rank in a matter of seconds. Morgan receives three temporary command seals with which to control or augment the Green Knight the first time this phantasm is used (these command seals can be overridden by her master's command seals). The target remains as the Green Knight until Morgan removes the mark or uses all of her command seals. Once all of the command seals are used, this phantasm becomes sealed and unable to be used for the remainder of the war. Only one target may be marked as the Green Knight at a time, and it cannot be used on Morgan herself.
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>Haile Selassie of Ethiopia
>Caster
>Strength: D
>Endurance: C
>Agility: C
>Mana: B+
>Luck: A

Noble Phantasm

Rastafari Messiah: Emperor Selassie is not a mere Monarch, no he is the reincarnation of God. When used this Noble Phantasm increases all of Haile Selassies stats to A. If Haile Selassie is killed he will reincarnate 24h after his death but he will not be able to use Rastafari Messiah ever again.

Son of King Solomon: The Emperors of Ethiopia are all descendent from King Solomon and Haile Selassie is no different. This Noble Phantasm permits Haile to summon any person/creature from the Bible and he can perform any miracle mentioned in the Bible without spending Mana.
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OK, I'll try to stat Koshey.

Koshey the Deathless
Alignment: Lawful Evil
Strength: D
Endurance: E
Agility: C
Mana: A
Luck: B

Territory Creation A

Animal Dialog C: since in Russian folklore talking animal are common, Koshey doesn't have problems communicating with them.

Divinity C: Koshey's legend descends from a legend of a god of the Underworld. In later tales he's treated as a sorcerer, but he still have some measure of his former glory.

Magecraft A: Koshey is basically an epitome of a sorcerer in Russian folklore. His abilities include flying, turning people into stone or trees, breaking of enchanted chains and, according to some tales, control over weather. He's awful i mind control, however.

Noble Phantasm: Sword-Kladenecz (fake) Rank: D
Koshey is often described as using a two-handed sword similar to the legendary Sword-Kladenecz. However, this sword is not a truly powerful weapon and good only against weak Servants. "Heroes at the beginning of their journey".

Noble Phantasm: Island Buyan Rank: EX
A floating island covered in clouds that prevent most people from discovering it. Always appears on the nearest lake or sea (whatever is closer) whenever Koshey is summoned.
An old oak tree grows at the center of the island. A massive chest hangs on the golden chains from this tree.
In the chest is a mare, in a mare is a duck, in a duck is an egg and in an egg is a needle.
Koshey's death is hidden in the needle. Unless the needle is destroyed, Koshey can't die. He still can be wounded or disappear if his Master is dead.
Koshey himself can't step on the island. His Master, however, can.

Not sure about the island. Should it have some additional properties or be treated like Reality Marble or something?
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>>19674962
Eh. The island seems pretty good, and if you're not close to a lake, make it appear in any near by body of water. I'd consider it a reality marble that seemlessly blends in with actual reality.
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Achilles (Saber, Rider, Berserker)
Strength A+
Endurance B
Agility A
Mana C
Luck D

Divinity A
Natural Body
Charisma B
Riding A+ - Only Achilles can control his two immortal mounts

Noble Phantasms

Rank EX: Achilles' Heel, the death of heroes
The very concept of weakness is tied to Achilles' Legend. Prana and stats are slowly drained near him, eventually granting him the edge in combat if his natural talent did not provide it already.

Rank B: Achilles' Chariot, the rattle of grief
Pulled by two immortal horses, this is the chariot that dragged Hector, embodying the grief of war. The chariot forces a repeated flight response in its presence, diminishing over time. It nullifies damage by attacks or Noble Phantasms that don't affect Fate/Luck. These qualities allow Achilles to hunt down his mark in battle.

>I wonder what Balius and Xanthus would do on their own if they were called forth when Achilles was Rider. They wee either Zeus-lings or former Titans. Ideas?
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>>19675023
No idea. If they were former titans, they can't be summoned as Servants. If it was human at one point, it can be summoned.
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>>19674999
Yes, nearest body of water seems right.
So, Reality Marble in which Slavic legends become true, animals talk and thirty tree bogatyrs and dyadka Chernomor rise from the sea if the right conditions are met.
Also, normal people shouldn't be able to find it. I'm thinking about a standard hypnotic compulsion here.
Koshey has no way of knowing whether or not the needle is destroyed, by the way. Unless his Master place some familiars here or something.
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I haven't seen this man yet, which is a damn shame because he's pretty much the only American legend that fits the bill of a Servant properly.

"Big Man" Paul Bunyan
Rider/Saber/Berserker
Alignment: Neutral Good
Strength: B+
Endurance: A
Agility: D+
Mana: D
Luck: D

Animal Handling: A+/B/-
While not a "Rider" of creatures per-se, Paul Bunyan was capable of taming a giant ox and trained it to do the supposedly impossible, raising its class to Mythical Beast. As a rider, this ability extends not only to livestock-class creatures, but any creature on the Earth, as evidenced by his poorly-thought-out crossbreeding of wasps and mosquitos.
Resistance to Cold and Wind: A+
Charisma: C/C/-
Paul Bunyan was known for leading the lumberjacks of the Canadian border from the moment he grew a decent enough beard to do so, his charisma stemming from his proficiency at his job, his exquisite facial hair, and his large stature.
Mad Enhancement: -/-/A
Ubiquitous for a Berserker-class servant, this skill grants a one rank boost to all stats. Note that this also grants him [Battle Continuation A+], for having an already extreme Endurance score.

NPs next...
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>>19675077
That seems like a good way to do it. Yeah, I'd make the island undiscoverable by your run of the mill mortal, unless Koshey wants them to enter his magical realm.
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>>19675101
>evidenced by his poorly-thought-out crossbreeding of wasps and mosquitos.
what
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>>19675131
Paul Bunyan is one hell of a guy. He isn't always the smartest dude though.
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>>19675048
I meant Rider Achilles, summoning his horses to full potential. He can use them as mounts, but what does a Divine Spirit horse do, anyway? These bastards survived Troy and wept for Patroclus.
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>>19675158
They'd disappear with him. They're under his command, and without him summoning them, they aren't going to stick around.
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>mfw Iskander releases his Reality Marble
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Baba Yaga the Bone Leg (yes, real title. It's actually a rhyme in Russian)

Caster
Alignment: Neutral Evil
Strength: B (she IS strong in legends)
Endurance: E
Agility: C
Mana: A
Luck: B

Territory Creation B (comes with pre-existing workshop, see below)

Animal Dialog C (same deal as with Koshey. Also, much more likely to use it)

Magecraft B

Witchcraft B (not sure if they you can have both skills. Some of the things she does seems more magecraft, other are things like curses which is more in line with witchcraft).

Abilities include control over weather, enchanting forests, turning people into animals, summoning swans to kidnap people or serve as familiars.

Riding C

Noble Phantasm: Bone Leg Rank: D
Has a Bone Leg. Can kick ass. No, seriously.

Noble Phantasm: Mortar and Pestle Rank Rank C
Method of transport. Capable of flying, also a tool to brew weather.

Noble Phantasm: House on Chicken Legs. Rank: B
An old house which is treated as workshop with everything that entails. Usually can't be accessed without the right parole. Capable of moving.

Noble Phantasm: Oven Rank: C
A tool to turn people (preferably children) into prana. The method is obvious. That allows Baba Yaga to survive even without Master as long as she has enough victims.

Also has a black cat as a familiar. Nothing special about it aside from being able to talk.
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>>19675242
>Ionioi Hetairoi vs Teutoberg Forest - The Bloody Revenge of the Roman Legions
Trust me. It will be a battle to remember.
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>>19675116
Something like this, yes. It is possible to discover the island if you're a magus or have a help of one, but normal people are out of luck. Koshey doesn't seem to have any control over the island, however. It's... just kinda there.
It's also a very popular place in folklore for various mythical creatures to hang around.
A squirrel with golden and emerald nuts live here, for example.
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Name:Mario Mario
Class: Rider
Strenght:c
Endurance:A+
Agility:A+
Mana:C
Luck:B

Noble Phantasm:

Yoshi the Dinosaur: Mario can summon his migthy steed Yoshi when ever he wishes.

Mushrooms: Mario can summon and consume different types of mushrooms, all of which have different effect on him.

Luigi: Mario can call upon Luigi to assist him on his quest. Luigi is only a bit weaker then Mario and functions as a second servant when summoned.
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>>19675319
Baba Yaga is a Muscle Witch? Sweet.
>>19675451
>Mario having A+ endurance.
>Can only take one hit without a size boost mushroom
>LaughingGoombas.jpg
>>19675415
Sounds like Koshey has one hell of a phantasm then. He's set to be a sweet ass Caster.
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>>19675101
Noble Phantasms:

>Boreal Taiga - One Stroke, Many Trees
Saber/Berserker B-Rank Anti-Army NP
Consistently in his legend, Bunyan has been noted for the ability to clear entire acres of forest singlehandedly with only a normal lumber axe. This is due to his ability to cleave through multiple trees in a single swing, and leaving a smooth slice through. When using this NP, Bunyan ignores the Armor Value of any target in a 15-meter radius from him, and the range of his melee attacks are increased to match.


>Whispers in the Wind - The Frozen Winter
All Class A+-rank Anti-army NP
Bunyan extends a Reality Marble across the battlefield, overlapping with the world in an unusual way. The Marble is filled with snow and buffeting winds, and buildings are slowly destroyed from the natural forces involved. Sound is "frozen" when exposed to the winds, and must be heated in order to become audible once more. The cost of this NP is reduced the farther north it is used, and can be used nearly freely when near the Canadian border where Bunyan was born.

>Babe - The Great Blue Ox
Rider class A -rank Anti-army NP
An ox raised from birth by Bunyan, it grew to similarly huge proportions as its master and friend. It turned blue when it survived a particularly fearsome blizzard where even the snow was stained blue from the cold. This act of survival caused Gaia to recognize the creature as a Mythical Beast, granting immunity to cold and wind and tremendous feats of strength duplicated only by gods and dragons. Due to its might, it is dangerous to use anywhere near civilization, as even its smaller movements cause great damage.
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>>19675101
>pretty much the only American legend that fits the bill of a Servant properly.
Should do John Henry as well then.

Ned Kelly would be pretty funny too come to think of it.
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>>19675536
One of the few very well written servants I've seen so far in these threads. Well done.
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>>19675536
>Whispers in the Wind - The Frozen Winter
All Class A+-rank Anti-army NP
I'd reduce this to B+
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Has anyone statted Tesla?
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>>19675508
Not to the extent of the Muscle Wizard... but yeah, she is strong. To the point that she apparently shoved a few lesser heroes into her oven. WITH HER BARE HANDS.

Also, enchantment on forest around her house usually prevent people she doesn't want to see to find a way anywhere. They're pretty much doomed to forever walk in the forest. Proper magus probably can deal with it.
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>>19675621
Nope. I'll give it a shot.

Nikoli Tesla
Caster
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral.
Strength: E
Endurance: E
Agility: C
Mana: B
Luck: C
Skills:
Territory Creation: A
Item Creation: B
Man of Lightning (A): Tesla is a master of electricity. Whenever he casts a spell involving electrical power, raise it by two ranks.

Noble Phantasm: The Machine of Earthquakes (C)
Tesla has a device that simulates Earthquakes. Whenever activated, the effects can be targeted towards whatever he wishes it.

Noble Phantasm: Ray of Death (A)
Telsa can create a man made lightning bolt, and throw it like an energy beam at his foe. This attack bypasses any magical defenses.
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>>19675146
>>19675131
Stingers on BOTH ENDS. What the hell was he thinking?
>>19675609
Thanks muchly. Honestly, I've had him brewing in my head for a servant for a long time. If I were a Magus invited to the war, I'd have done everything to summon him.
>>19675618
I see where you're coming from. I figured it might be an A+ for plot reasons, due to it being a Marble that neither Gaia nor Alaya have issue with existing, as it's a natural phenomenon that already happened. Hell, a weaker version of the Marble appears annually in the midwest, and the Counter Force hasn't done shit to stop it yet.
>>19675563
I also considered John Henry and Pecos Bill, but JH's legend is a little brief to extrapolate from, and PB uses guns, which disqualifies him from normal Grail Wars.
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>>19675654
Dang yo'. Baba Yaga is also one hell of a scary Caster.
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>>19675818
Paul's marble is likely the same one that hits the midwest, just hijacked. That, and it's more like a marble phantasm than a reality marble.
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Did anybody stat Jesus?
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>>19675974
I don't think so. I'm not touching that one with a ten foot pole though.
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>>19675974
There are rules against summoning anything outright divine.
He would be a good Caster, though.
Reminds me of an old joke: "Turning water into wine. Human body is 60% water".
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>>19675974
boring
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>>19676068
Technically, he isn't really divine. He's like a demigod. He'd be Divinity: (A+).
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>>19676129
He's part of the trinity. He's a third of god.
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>>19676165
But at the same time, still a man. So he would be summonable.
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>>19676129
That depends on Bible interpretation.
IIRC, there was a huge debate about exact nature of Jesus.
There were some funny theories. Like that one about how Jesus is possessed by God not unlike our Baron Samedi.
In the end a conclusion was reached and Jesus is postulated to be a man and God at the same time, equally.
It can be changed for the purposes of the Grail War, of course. But I'm not sure why Jesus would answer the call of the Grail.
Church's reaction would be hilarious, though.
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>>19676259
The Church would freak the FUCK OUT. His Master would be enemy number one. There would be infighting, because he has risen again right? Is this a sign of the end of days? The chaos it would cause would be enormous.
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Did Genghis Khan get stated already?
I wonder whether he would be Rider or Archer?
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>>19676223

Yeah. Jesus as Caster. Judas as Avenger.

If I was going to GM something like this, all of Judas and Jesus' interactions would be ripped for Jesus Christ Superstar.

... they might even sing.
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>>19676299
> Is this a sign of the end of days?
...Summoning Jesus. The one-way ticket to the end of days and an eternity in hell. I've never seen a more extreme idea of blasphemy.
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>>19676299
I think the opposite. They would merely call the Jesus Servant a mockery created by the grail.
No debate, no infighting, no interest.
They may still target the Master, though.
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>>19676330
See Pic.
>>19676317
He'd be a Rider. Go ahead and post your stats for him.
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>>19676317
Most servants have several classes they are eligible for
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>>19676317
Rider. Fits the leader and mount theme.
Berserker. Because leveling cities and drowning books is a high level of not giving fucks.
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>>19676377

I'll first have to think of how to stat him and which Noble Phantasm he should have. I think he would be to similar too Iskander in that both were famous conquerors and rulers. A NP similar to Ionioi Hetairoi could be possible, only the summoned warriors would all be horsemen. I think he could work as a combination of Iskander and Gilgamesh.
I think I won't stat him since any role he could play is already taken by either Iskander or Gilgamesh.
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>>19676443
is he known for having succumbed to madness at some point in his life?
that is the prereq to be a berserker
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>>19676472
You kidding me? Sure, he's a lot like Iskander. But that shouldn't stop you. This is all about letting your creative juices flow. Even if it's shitty, its still OC.
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Why hasn't someone put the thought into creating a whole system for Fate/Stay Night? Or creating a document that makes the appropriate adaptations of an existing system?

Assign the letter rankings in the stats with some numeric modifier (Ala d20) or maybe a plain dice value. (A rank is d12, B rank is D10, C is D8, D is D6, E is D4?)

Figure out how to work from there.
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>>19676554
Someone already did. The system is for the whole Nasuverse. And it's SHIT. That's why we use other systems, like the DFRPG, WoD, Legends of Wulin, and GURPS.
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>>19676585
I still think that Kerberos Club FATE would fit F/SN best.
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>>19676585
The Nasuverse isn't compatible with itself half the time. I'm talking just Fate/Stay Night, converting as much of the game stats as possible and making sense of it.
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>>19676554
How about compiling the rules of the Grail War, system independant?
Seriously, you don't need extra rules for the system. Just give a framework for adapting it to any system.

I'd also suggest looking at D:tD for a viable system.
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>>19676609
Hmm. That would be difficult, but I guess it would be possible. Mainly because HAX A beats HAX B which in turn beats HAX C, but HAX A isn't beaten by HAX C, and so on and so forth.
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>>19676619
What's D:tD? My Google-fu is weak.
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>>19676628
Dungons: The Dragoning.
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>>19674849
As I recall, as a Nazarite, Samson had three vows to uphold, all of which he broke. The thing about not cutting his hair was just him breaking the third oath.
1: Abstain from wine, vinegar, grapes, and anything derived from grapes. It's unclear if any alcohol not derived from grapes is also forbidden. This was the second one he broke, by drinking at his wedding feast.
2: Refrain from cutting the hair upon one's head. This was the last one that Samson broke, when he told Delilah that he would lose his strength when it was cut.
3: Avoid dead bodies, even if they are family. Samson broke this one first - by eating honey from a beehive inside the corpse of a lion he had earlier killed.

Perhaps make it so one has to get him to break all three vows? You could probably do the grapes/alcohol one if you slip them into a meal, or force-feed it to him. It's not going to be hard to find dead bodies during a Holy Grail War, and the hair thing is obvious.
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>>19676650
Yeah. EGO is going to have to modify that.
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I was thinking of Caster-waifus and it touched me

>French mistresses
>Pompadour, La Valliere, O'Murphy
>Marie Antoinette
>ROBESPIERRE

Is Assassin Robespierre possible?
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>>19676675
No, but a Berserker Robespierre is.
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>>19676650
most people don't know about the other two, especially the dead bodies one
servants are shaped by the consensus of the stories
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>>19676650
Forcing it on him doesn't count.
>but what about the haircut thing? He didn;t willing cut his hair
And it's ignorant to think nothing ever happened to harm his hair up until that moment. The problem is he gave away his weakness to someone AFTER THEY HAD PROVEN THEY WERE GOING TO TRY IT ON HIM! He claimed goat cord could hold him, they tied him with it and it didn't work... and that right there should have been the dumbass's clue not to tell his actual weakness. He had it coming.
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>>19676627
It is possible to stat using skill weaknesses or whatever they're called. When the right conditions are met, skill lose a tier or a few. So God-tier Hax A would always be better than God-tier Hax B (because agains Hax A it's treated as Ex-tier), and God-tier Hax B would always be better than Hax C which is always better than Hax A. Meanwhile, all Haxes are better that regular magecraft because regular magecraft is Ex-tier or close.
You would need to be very accurate with wording, though.
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Here's my attempt at Genghis Khan:

Class: Rider
Name: Genghis Khan Tamujin
Strength: B
Endurance: B
Agility: A
Mana: D
Luck: A

Noble Phantasm

Mongol Terror:
Tamujins sheer presence is his Noble Phantasm. Having destroyed, pillaged and terrorized the entire known world Genghis Khan and his Mongols became the epitome of terror. Whenever a servant is in the presence of Genghis Khan his stats drop one level and his Noble Phantasm is less effective. The enemy servants must also constantly fight a mental battle against this Aura and if he fails he must either flee or succumb to it.

Sons of the Khan:
When in battle Tamujin can summon his sons to assist him. Each one of them is a great warrior and worthy of being a servant themselves.

Riches from the Danube to Korea:
Tamujin ruled over one of the biggest Empires in history and his final Phantasm permits him to call upon everything his Empire could give him. He can summon riches, relics and weapons from these lands at any moment. This means any Noble Phantasm that has it's origin in a territory that was part of the Mongol Empire can be used by Genghis Khan wheb ever he wishes.
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>>19676704
EX is not the lowest rank. It's the highest. It pretty much means, "This is so special, it's in a tier of it's own."
The rule system is going to be a nightmare though.
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Found Harun. Ideas for skills and stats?

Harun al-Rashid [Aaron the Rightly Guided]

Caster-Class

Noble Phantasm: Bayt al-Hikma ["The House of Wisdom"]

Rank: A+

A vault-type Noble Phantasm, the House of Wisdom was the grandest library since Alexandria, home to a magnificent number of magical grimoires and the wisdom of the ages. Harun is capable of producing many tomes of wisdom from this library, giving him mastery of nearly all forms of sorcery, especially the binding and summoning of djinn and spirits.

Noble Phantasm: The Caliph Walks Among the People

Rank: C

Harun al-Rashid is infamous for walking the streets of Baghdad in disguise - once, he was hired to assassinate himself by a group of conspirators. When this Noble Phantasm is active, he cannot be recognized by his seeming, but it cannot be used together with his other phantasms.

Noble Phantasm: The Thousand and One Nights

Rank: B

Harun is the subject of many of the stories of the legendary collection known as the Thousand and One Nights, and is capable of playing any archetypical role in fiction. Because of this, he takes on an aspect of myth no matter where he goes - while this Noble Phantasm is active, Harun is always 'someone you know', capable of performing any mundane task through his vast store of wisdom. When the legends of the Caliph of Baghdad are spoken while he walks the Earth, he gathers mana, giving him an almost unlimited supply so long as his name is known and remembered - his glory and his power are one and the same under God.
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>>19676723
I'd drop the last one. That's Gilg's shtick. Gengis can't do that. Otherwise, it looks pretty good.
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>>19676723
Just pick a weapon and give it to him
>Riches from the Danube to Korea
don't bother with this
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>>19676739
Err, ex as in Exceptional. I may be misusing terms here, but IIRC in Kerberos Club it's a tier right above Mundane. Then you have Supernatural, than, IIRC, one more, than God-tier.
The difference between your skill's tier and your opponent's tells you how many of the four fudge die you change into regular d6.
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>>19676662
>>19676650
Maybe have Mad Enhancement's bonuses be reduced for each vow he breaks, and on the third, it's locked down?


I'm throwing a couple other thoughts out there.
Adam (Rider) - Adam was supposed to be master of all beasts, which would make Rider the obvious choice for class. Also, having access to the Original Language has to be helpful for something.
Lilith (Caster?) - One interpretation of Lilith says she became the lover of many demons after she left the Garden of Eden. Maybe her Noble Phantasm involves conjuring said lovers (or perhaps her children from said unions) to attack/defend for her.
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>>19676755
>>19676779

I'll drop the "Gate of Babylon lite" and try coming up with some weapon for him. I'll probably give him a bow.
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>>19676723
Needs:
Everything fades
Despite Ghangis Khans massive victories and accomplishments during his own life, many people only have a general idea of what he did. Because of this, he is normally weaker than he should be. All scores increase by one rank against anyone who knows who he really is and what he's done.

Really, Ghengas Khan is one of the most bad ass mother fuckers to ever live. Even more than Gilgamesh.
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>>19676751
Skills in mage craft, item creation, and territory creation obviously. Likely some skill in some sort of knowledge based thing. As for stats, I'd go with
Strength: E
Endurance: D
Agility: C
Mana: EX (See One Thousand and One Nights)
Luck: C
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>>19676751
Also, I can't think of a fancy name for The Caliph Walks Among the People, but Thousand and One Nights' name should totally be Scheherazade, going by the "Mythological Name: Long Title That Explains the Nature of the Phantasm" scheme.
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>>19676619
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>How about compiling the rules of the Grail War, system independant?


It might take a bit, but I can tell you what I know.
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>>19676834
Go right ahead.
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Give Genghis a degradation NP. He destroyed so much, NPs and artifacts are downgraded near him.
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I'm half tempted to toss the Saber from our game into the mix here, but, she's likely been statted already, and she was.....odd, to say the least.
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>>19676879
Who was your Saber?
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>>19676827
Yeah. In terms of ability, I figure he's probably low-output: he has no signature spellcraft to claim as a Noble Phantasm, merely the many wonders of Baghdad and not one, but several legends. That's the main thing that makes Harun unique, is that there is no one iconic Harun al-Rashid - the Caliph of Baghdad is hero and villain, swordsman and mystic, ruler and peasant throughout the Thousand and One Nights, but he is always the divinely-appointed Caliph. The idea of inherent Nobility.
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>>19676859

That's actually what I made his main NP. Everything and everybody is weaker in his presence and servants must constantly resist fear and terror overcoming them.
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>>19676808
>Maybe have Mad Enhancement's bonuses be reduced for each vow he breaks, and on the third, it's locked down?
Shouldn't it be the other way around? He became truly mad after breaking all his vows, IIRC.

My thoughts on Lilith:
>Well, she became some sort of a monster in legends, and I'm not sure about Nasuverse rules about summoning someone-who-once-was-human...

>Aside from this, yes, she would make a terrifying Caster.
With NP allowing her to gave birth to various monsters or call her children from across the world.

>Also it should be noted that she could literally become pregnant from breath.

>And... err... I remember a legend that she rapes boys when they reach puberty which is why their voices start to change and hair start grow... I'm not sure that that legend should be made into NP...

>Church would have... many words to say to her, however.
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>>19676906
Also, with Biblical figures tossed around, Holy Grail War suddenly become more Holy.
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>>19676906
>someone who was once human

Medusa.
So yeah.

Also, a full Lancer version of Fionn should be completed at some point. He IS canon to the Nasuverse - He's mentioned but never seen in Diarmuid's flashbacks and Cu references him in his win quote against Diarmuid in /unlimited codes
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>>19676922
Yeah. We need to see Fionn as Lancer. He'd be pretty fucking terrifying I'd think.
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Genghis Khan part 2:

Class: Rider
Name: Genghis Khan Tamujin
Strength: B
Endurance: B
Agility: A
Mana: D
Luck: A
Weapons: Master crafted Bow and Sword.

Noble Phantasm

Mongol Terror:
Tamujins sheer presence is his Noble Phantasm. Having destroyed, pillaged and terrorized the entire known world Genghis Khan and his Mongols became the epitome of terror. Whenever a servant is in the presence of Genghis Khan his stats drop one level and his Noble Phantasm is less effective. The enemy servants must also constantly fight a mental battle against this Aura and if he fails he must either flee or succumb to it.

Sons of the Khan:
When in battle Tamujin can summon his sons to assist him. Each one of them is a great warrior and worthy of being a servant themselves. If killed, the sons are no longer permitted to return and partake in the Grail War.

Everything fades:
Despite Ghangis Khans massive victories and accomplishments during his own life, many people only have a general idea of what he did. Because of this, he is normally weaker than he should be. All scores increase by one rank against anyone who knows who he really is and what he's done.
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>>19676887

Jeanne D'Arc.

Fun fact: In canon Fate/Stay Night, according to information in Fate/Zero, Saber:Pendragon and Saber:D'Arc look exactly the same.
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>>19676938
EX Rank Throwing Everything

What's the Gaelic for biting? Gae [Biting] would be a good name for the spear he killed the fairy king with.

Its poison protects him from mind-affecting spells and his cloak protected him from the sidhe's flame, so they're both worth being Phantasms on a younger Fionn, while an older Fionn would likely call on the rather Arthurian 'he sleeps in a dun beneath Ireland with the Fianna' myth.
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>>19676808
Speaking of Adam. Wasn't it stated that in Nasuverse the more there are humans, the less power each of them have?
And Adam (and Lilith for that matter) lived in a time where there were only two (three counting Lilith) humans... A bit more later, but not for much.
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>>19676955
Now I want Saber Roland.

Also inexplicably blonde and female.

The Saber Triplets.
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>>19676939
This anon likes it
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>>19676966
Cain would also be one scary Servant. What would he be, Berserker?
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>>19676955

Wait, there's a Joan D'Arc as Saber somewhere?
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>>19676999
Yep.
>>19676990
Roland actually works better as Rider. No shit. His horse is an integral part of the Song of Roland.
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>>19676955

ARGH, hit enter too soon. This is mainly notable for one reason: In the game, the "canon" end we went with was Unlimited Blade Works: Good End.

Oh, and the Caster of the war was Morganna Le'Fay
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>>19677013

Where?
Are there any pictures?
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>>19677013
True enough, but he could EASILY be Saber using the horn and Durandal.

Hell, Durandal, Excalibur, and Kusanagi are probably some of the best-known swords in the world, but Susano'o would be disqualified hard due to the Divinity clause.
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>>19676701
The vow allows for things like scratching your head or your hair falling out naturally. It does forbid combing, however, as it's almost certain to rip hair loose. It seems that minor accidental pullings of a few strands of hair are overlooked.


Since Fate/Apocrypha listed Frankenstein's Monster as a Servant (evidently Victor Frankenstein did actually exist in the Nasuverse, and did create a monster - although it was a woman in this case), there may be other classical novels that can be dipped into for Servants.
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>>19676999

Counter-Guardian, actually. Although all of those can double as Servants, so yeah.
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>>19677026
Here:
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Fate/Apocrypha_characters#Joan_of_Arc
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>>19676996
Definitely Berserker. Doubt he qualifies for any other class.
His NP would be Mark of God that forbids anyone from touching him. Maybe it even applies to his Master and magecraft, so no prana without prana-snacks.
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>>19677066
Avenger too.
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>>19677049
Rider/Berserker Ahab?
"WHITE WHALE! HOLY GRAIL!"
>>19677041
Yeah. I prefer him as Rider though. Durandal in the Nasuverse has three miracles right? First two are being eternally sharp, and unbreakable righ?
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>>19676999
Only downside is that her NP is complete shit.
Of all the Sabers out there Nero and Gawain have probably the most "HAAAAAX!"-worthy though.
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>>19676853
First, the basics on how it starts:

The Holy Grail is a font of Mana that is created from multiple leylines that converge, with some help from Magi. Imagine it as a sort of treetap, really - the sap is there and flowing, but Magi stick a big ol thinger in there to draw it out and make it into a different form. The Grail usually has a human, or humanoid 'vessel', as well, though this element is rarely explained.

The Grail gives rise to SEVEN Servants. These are drawn from the Throne of Heroes, which exists OUTSIDE OF TIME. Technically, this means servants from the future are possible. But more on this later.

The Grail then selects seven people who want the grail, and gives them each three command spells.

The Seven Servants are given Classes and summoned by masters. This step is mostly done by the grail - it's incredibly easy to do on the Master side, such that even a nigh-mundane can do it, or even do it on accident.

These classes are:

The Three Knight Classes (These are more powerful than the other classes by design. More on this later)
Saber (A hero who uses swords.)
Lancer (A hero who uses spears)
Archer (A hero who uses ranged weapons)

Then we have the other Classes
Rider (A hero who rode on horseback or a vehicle)
Caster (A hero who cast spells)
Berserker (A hero who went insane)
Assassin (A hero who killed without detection)

Finally, there is, technically, a time limit - the Grail dissipates in usually about seven days.

(Cont)
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>>19677079
As the first murderer? Yes, that fits.
And he actually would be effective Avenger 'till he runs out of prana.
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Now, Noble Phantasms and Stats/Skills.

First of all, the difference between NPs and Skills. Skills are inherent in the class, or are things many heroes can have. For instance, the ability to ride things, the ability to command armies, the ability to identify art. These are Skills.

Noble Phantasms are, essentially, their legends boiled down into abilities and weapons. Excalibur, Avalon, and Invisible Air are all Noble Phantasms.

Ranks between them range from E, the weakest, to A, the greatest. EX is "unique", or "Cannot be ranked". The same with Stats. In terms of stats, C is average for a SERVANT. E is average for a human. A is average for no one, it is so exceptional as to almost be an NP on its own. a stat that is EX is a stat that is so extreme it is out of the bounds of the stat system.

Noble Phantasms also have a 'type'. These are, in order of least to most impressive:
Personal (passive or non-aggressive)
Anti-Personell (Single target)
Anti-Army (Many targets)
Anti-Fortress (Strong enough to take apart a castle or a fortress with a single use)
Anti-World (Strong enough to threaten a planet or an Existence [Such as a Reality marble])

Remember, try to limit NPs to ONE TO THREE a servant. Five is the MOST one Servant should have.

Cont.
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>>19677049

I have that one, too!
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>>19677079
Yeah, he'd definitely qualify as an Avenger.

Also, as a Nasu-newb, is the Angra Mainyu Kotomine seems to desire the same as the Avenger from /hollow ataraxia, just with the energy and taint of the Grail, or what? What's Angra's deal?
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Finally, some extra information:

Usually, there are a few additional restrictions on Servants. Use or disregard these at your leisure.

First, Guns are not, according to Nasu, heroic. If you want to have a gun using Servant, stat up the gun. I'm not joking.

Second, most Heroes are 200+ years old.

Finally, the older a hero, the stronger. The more famous a hero, the stronger, as well. Gilgamesh is a good example of the former, Arthur, the latter.

Heroes are given information enough to live and function alone in the modern world. Riding skill gives ability to ride vehicles.

That about sums it up.
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>>19676999
Fate/Apocrypha. She was actually a Ruler (a class specially suited to be the Administrator for the War), but could also qualify as Saber.

>>19676955
Not quite *identical*, but it is quite a resemblance.

If you really want to push things further, add in Mordred (Arturia's son got his looks from her, it seems) and Nero from Fate/Extra (looks like Arturia in a different dress and with bigger tits).
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>>19677103
Yes. Avenger was summoned by the Einzberns in the 3rd War. He died and when he was pulled into the Grail, the Grail was confused. Avenger was so weak the Grail thought that a human had won the war. It granted his wish, to become the personification of All the Evils in the World. From then on, the Grail granted his wish every time it was summoned.
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Class: Berserker
Name: Atilla the Hun
Strength: A+
Endurance: A
Agility: B
Mana: E
Luck: E

Noble Phantasm

Scourge of God:
Attila exists only to destroy and spread terror. He is therefore immune to any magic or noble phantasm of ranks lower then A.

Trail of Destruction:
The more Attila destroys the stronger he gets. One of Attilas stats increases for every servant he kills or for every 1000+ killed innocent bystanders he sacrifices.

Sword of Mars: Attila carries the sword of the God of War himself. It is a powerful noble phantasm, maybe even stronger than Excalibur, but if it is destroyed Attila becomes weaker and all his stats drop two levels.
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>>19677089
>Dat Archer David
I LIKE IT. He could work as a Caster in his King David incarnation though. Ark of the Covenant, Anti-World, anyone?

>Dat Caster Shakespear
9/10 classiness would summon again.
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>>19674720
>>19674739
>>19674827

You all have to consider that Newton:

>Created calculus to easily explain how objects move when a gravitational force is acted upon them

>Discovered that light was composed of many colors and was not a "pure white light"

>Thanks to this notion he created the modern telescope which we still use today as a toy

>Figured out how Gravity worked

>Helped Haley (comet dude) how celestial bodies moved in an elliptical way

>Did not believe on the trinity and did not believe that Jesus was divine

>Practiced a lot of Alchemy and pretty much applied scientific principles to it

>wrote more papers regarding alchemy and theology than science and mathematics

>Was a bad ass mother fucker and among the smartest humans that ever existed
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>>19677054

Oh, right. Translation.

Jeanne d'Arc

The heroine of France who liberated Orleans in the Hundred Year War. A Catholic saint. As a heroic spirit who was summoned by the Holy Grail War itself, she holds the duty of administrating the Grail War. For this reason, unlike other Servants, she retains memories of the repeating game (Grail War). When acting as a Servant, she is taciturn and cool. On the other hand, the natural Jeanne is a plain and quiet 16-year-old girl. She puts order first, and will wield a sword for the sake of the rules, but fundamentally believes "all people/Heroic Spirits participating in the Holy Grail War are important".

Class: Ruler (Saber)
Source: History
Place of Origin: Domremy, France
Alignment: Lawful Good
Sex: Female
Height: 159cm
Weight: 44kg
Arms: Flag

Stats
Strength: B
Endurance: B
Agility: A
Mana: A
Luck: C
Noble Phantasm: A++

Skills
Magic Resistance (EX)
In addition to the Saber class's Magic Resistance, she demonstrates strong anti-magic due to her firm piety. However, since she can only divert/evade magic, in the case of a wide range magic attack only Jeanne herself can be saved. Doesn't apply to the church's sacraments.
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>>19677158

Charisma
The innate ability to lead an army. The appearance of Jeanne hoisting the flag and participating in the assaults raised the soldiers' morale to the limit, and united the troops. Thanks to her charisma, she is able to make others believe her "Revelations" without basis.

Revelation
A skill equivalent to "Instinct". Instinct is a sixth sense in battle, but "Revelations" apply to all events relating to the achievement of the goal (for example, choosing the best route when travelling). Since they have no basis (she thinks), she cannot explain them well to others.

Saint
Signifies being known as a saint. When summoned as a Servant, a Saint's ability is chosen as one out of: "raise the effectiveness of sacraments", "automatic HP recovery", "Charisma rank up by 1", or "can produce a holy shroud".

Noble Phantasm
La Pucelle (Crimson Saint)
A holy sword that releases flames, using the words spoken at her death, "Lord, I entrust this body to you--", as an incantation. A conceptual crystal armament that releases the fires that burned her on the stake offensively. It is another sort of Reality Marble, and her inner landscape crystallized as a sword. This sword is the Heroic Spirit Jeanne d'Arc herself, and if she materializes the Noble Phantasm, Jeanne will disappear after the battle.
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>>19677133
Holy crap that is crazy. Trail of Destruction guarantees that he's going to end up killing a lot of innocents. His Master is going to be such a big target it isn't even funny.
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>>19677106
>Finally, the older a hero, the stronger. The more famous a hero, the stronger, as well. Gilgamesh is a good example of the former, Arthur, the latter.
That's one of the things I'd just disregard and instead replace with actual balance and the heroes being larger-than-life.
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>>19677106
Two questions.
One, what is the war administrator?
Two, what do you mean "stat the gun"?
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>>19677130

It was enough that the Caster in Fate/Zero was utterly sure it was her. That was more then good enough for shanagians in our game.

Now, throw in that Saber:Pendragon is still around, and that Saber:D'Arc and her Master are...close....

And that Rin and Shirou are at the Clocktower, where post war said Sabermaster is going....
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>>19677172
The administrator is the guy supervising the war to make sure no one breaks the rules. Unfortunately, it tends to be this guy, and he loves breaking rules.

"stat the gun" means that Nasu thinks all the skill of gunfighters comes from their weapons and that the gun is the real hero. Its retarded.
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>>19677191
Caster also has Mental Pollution. He's literally insane.
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>>19677172
The War Administrator is an individual, usually assigned by the Chruch, to make certain that the Grail remains unharmed or undefiled.

Naturally, they typically aren;t very good at it. They also shelter individuals who bow out of the War, and can, in some circumstances, award Command Spells.

>>19677194
What this guy said.
If you wanted Billy the Kid? You'd stat up his six-shooter and the Master would, essentially, become The Kid by dint of weilding it.
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>>19677194
>Kotomine

He makes me rejoice in F/uc
Such crazy, nasty combos with quick sword tosses to keep 'em chaining, and great supers.

Though I primarily play Lancer, [False] Assassin, and and Girugamesh.
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>>19677191
Oh boy, that's going to go well.
>>19677172
The administrator makes sure the damage from the Grail War is contained.
Stat the Gun is a bit of stupid BS we have to put up with, but for the most part is ignored.
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>>19677172
I'm honestly not sure about that rule - it gets argued about a lot whether it actually exists, or if it's just speculation that just sticks around on the Type-Moon wiki.

If the claim in question is in fact valid, the claim is that a modern hero that uses a gun in their heroic acts would end up with their gun becoming the Heroic Spirit, as 'the greatest gun of its era'. But this would require the gun itself to have a soul to be able to enter the Throne of Heroes.
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>>19677194
>>19677212
So I can summon Samus' power suit?
Fuck yeah!
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>>19677170

It's notable that it's muddled even more by the power of the Master, as well. Note the jump in Saber's power when she was swaped to Rin.

>>19677106

>Heroes are given information enough to live and function alone in the modern world. Riding skill gives ability to ride vehicles.

This picture is utterly canon.
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>>19677212
>If you wanted Billy the Kid? You'd stat up his six-shooter and the Master would, essentially, become The Kid by dint of weilding it.

Holy fuck, it IS retarded. Personally I would've disregard it. What's you opinion? Especially in regards for future HGW Quest?
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>>19677131
So wait. Kotomine is right and Shiro is kind of a huge dick for murdering a relatively okay guy who was hoping to purify the world of evil by gathering it in on himself, even if it did save the world, because Avenger really isn't that evil except by dint of the effects of the Grail?
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>>19677164

He is supposed to be very evil/brutal and hard to kill. With his stats and the ability to grow stronger there should be only three options of dealing with him:

1. Kill him early before he gets stronger
2. Kill his Master
3. Destroy his sword somehow, making him a lot weaker
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>>19677212
>Naturally, they typically aren;t very good at it. They also shelter individuals who bow out of the War, and can, in some circumstances, award Command Spells.

It would be refreshing to actually see them do their job. Sometimes Nasu's tendency of creating rules for the sole purpose of breaking them can get obnoxious.
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>>19677238
I like the idea of a Gun Servant, but agree that it's mostly retarded. Somewhere in the building threads I statted him up, it was entertaining to attempt.
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>>19677243
No. Angry Manjew would end up destroying the world by being born. At worst, Shirou's action is Neutral.
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>the gun is the hero.
Is there any canon of this happening? And does anyone know where it's mentioned?
Seriously, that is fuckstupid.
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>>19677233

That is...a lot more tricky.

To Summon False things, is...hard.

There's been only one example of it: False Assassin, summoned by Caster.

We, of course, took this and ran, and the caster of our war summoned a False Caster.

>>19677227

You got no idea.
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>>19677281
The only Gunhero that could exist is Black Barrel. However, no gun can enter the Throne, because they are not sentient.
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>>19677299
>To Summon False things, is...hard.
This implies that all Myths are true in the Nasuverse.
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>>19677243

AVENGER the SERVANT is a decent guy.

The Source of all Evils? Yeah, that woulda fucked the world bad.

Confusing? Welcome to Natsu, enjoy the seafood.
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>>19677320
Well, they are. Because Zelretch.
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Let me try something":

The Organization

The representation of all "secret organizations" and "hidden power groups" that ruled the world without its existence being known to the public. The Organization is composed of 24 class D Servants named after the letters of the alphabet, each with its own speciality (defense, offense, weapons, marketing resources, recon, espionage, sabotage yadayada) and 3 class C servants acting as the Triumvirate.

Class: Assassin
Origin: All over the world
Alignment: True Neutral
Sex: differs per agent
hegiht: same as above
weight: same as above

Stats
Strenght: D
Endurance: B
Agility: A
Mana: C
Luck: A
Noble Phantasm: A

Skills
Prescence Concealment (EX):
All agents share this exceptional hiding ability, making them undetectable. However, his can be shattered with a sufficient amount of detection magic, or foreknowledge of the location of the agent

Marketing Resources:
The Organization is extremely flexible and easily adapts to the surroundings. As such, with the sufficient man/prana sacrifice, one can amplify any and all skills of The Organization.
One may even resurrect a dead Agent, though this requires powerful magical knowledge and at least 20 normal humans

Professionalism:
All agents are equipped with the knowledge of an advanced and experienced government agent, like gun usage, forgery, interrogation and the like.
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>>19677301
The obvious solution to this is, of course, to stat a sentient Gun from the future who answered the call of the Grail to correct his past mistakes.
Can Gun be GAR?
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>>19677326
Yeah. Oh god the seafood.
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>>19677301
...Does that mean that a Servant could be a car or a plane or a rifle or a toaster from the future?
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>>19677320

No, not all are true.

But Belief is a power all it's own. It's tricky as all hell to work out, honestly.

Because then you can start throwing in time travel and alternate demntions...
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>>19677341
I wonder if the SCP foundation exists in the Nasuverse... It's exactly the kind of thing that would fit Gen, at the very least.
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>>19677341

Interesting idea, I like it.
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>>19677364
...

Yes?

If it is sentient and has a legend, it's a hero.

>>19677376
In my canon, they do, they're just critically underfunded.
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>>19677341
Interesting idea.
However:

>Prescence Concealment (EX):
>All agents share this exceptional hiding ability, making them undetectable. However, his can be shattered with a sufficient amount of detection magic, or foreknowledge of the location of the agent

If it can be countered by magecraft or foreknowledge, it's not EX. Make it A.
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>>19677355

He's gotten better. I hear the stuff in Fate/Hollow is half-fappable.
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>>19677368
And suddenly Anon and Xenu were servants.
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>>19677391
brb, summonning servant
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>>19677396
Ataraxia has fucking great H scenes. The CGs alone are awesome.
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>>19677396
You know what pisses me off?
Ride has this fucking awesome body. Yet I find no fappable fanart of her. Everything that's supposed to be "sexy" just looks retarded to me.
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>>19677341

Noble Phantasm:
Sphere of Influence:
The Organization has its hands on all major powers since the dawn of time. As such, this gives this SErvant the ability to influence the decisions of all large groups/parties/governments/organizations within a 100,000 km radius of the Grail War.
They can also "hire" normal people to guile and deciet to become their eyes and ears. These moles share the Presence Concealment, but at rank E.

The Powers That Be:
The Organization can ise the Sphere of Influence to use all resources of the groups it has infiltrated for a period of 2 days. This includes financial, intelligence and military resources.

Web of Deceit:
The Organization has mastered the art of information control over the ages. This gives them the ability to warp/vhange at most 1 information concerning any Servant or Master, even thier true name, to everyone, including the target. this also gves the Organization the ability to find out everything about a target after the period of 2 days.
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>>19677320
If the Servant shows up in the Nasuverse, their legend happened (or at least it happened the particular reality that Servant showed up in), though some details may be different from what we expect (see King Arthur, Frankenstein's Monster, Jack the Ripper, and Emperor Nero being female, or Alexander the Great being a big, redheaded man, or Sasaki Kojiro's legend being a composite of several different individuals' feats).
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>>19677391
>If it is sentient and has a legend, it's a hero.
Well, there's the matter of souls in Nasuverse. Do they exist? Does sentience/sapience equal soul?
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>>19677435
Jack could be female. Though I don't expect him to be a loli, still.
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>>19677407
Well, I guess the time has come.
How would you stat anonymous?
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>>19677426

Hrm. Try this?
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>>19677435
>Frankenstein's Monster
Please tell me that this asshole didn't turn the monster into a Berserker. PLEASE.
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>>19677395
Thats mainly because The Organization has the ability to use normal people as moles, sort of like Big Brother. The Prescence Concealment is shared also to the moles. But yeah, that should be A, sorry about that

>>19677435
So, we can make let say The TechnoCore, as the representation of the future AIs?
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>>19677451
Wow, first decent picture of Ride I've ever seen.
I must thank you.
Do you know where I can find more good stuff?
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>>19677451

Different anon then you were replying to but I have to comment:
Too Asian looking, Rider is supposed to be Greek.
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>>19677458
She has a very low grade of Mad Enhancement, and is capable of emotion and limited speech.
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Are there any classes that are under-represented so far? Berserkers and Casters seem well represented, as well as Sabers. More Lancers or Assassins, maybe?
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>>19677472
Isn't she's supposed to be a Gorgon? She could look like ANYTHING.
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>>19677450
Anonymous as assassin class?
The Anonymous condition is transferred via memetic mutation. Basically, memes spontaneously appear on the web and anyone afflicted with them becomes part of the servant.
You can't kill the Servant, but it's also extremely weak because it consists of a random sortiment of average joes.
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>>19677447

D'Arc Saberguy here.

We had a female Jack for the Assassin in our game.

No loli, she was just this utterly psychotic, grown up guttersnipe.
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>>19677479
This sounds a lot like what I was fearing. Do you know what the original monster was like? It's completely different from the pop culture version and the Mad Enhancement sounds more like the latter.
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>>19677447
Plus Frankenstein DID make a female monster. Why it's a heroic servant I do not know though.
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I just kept poking around on Dan and Gel. 's the best advice I can give.
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>>19677484

Well, she was a normal women before Poseidon raped her and then Athena turned her hair into snakes. So she would at the very least look more Greek then Asian. But it's always the artist choice how to represent somebody.
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>>19677504
Well, yeah, but he also killed it shortly before it could awaken.
Then the original monster took revenge for him not following the deal and killed his family.
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Part 1

Lilith
Alignment: Neutral Evil
Strength: D
Endurance: D
Agility: D
Mana: A
Luck: B

Skills:
Unholy Mother (A++): Lilith is the mother of all monsters. Her mere presence commands them, and the range of her call increases the more burnable mana she has access to. Werewolves, vampires, and demons of all sorts are compelled into obedience. Even mixed-blood humans find it difficult to disobey the Unholy Mother.
Dark Allure (A/B/C/D): Lilith possesses a ‘Mystic Form’. She is preternaturally attractive in all aspects of her being, and it requires either exceptional Magic Resistance or truly inhuman willpower to resist her advances. Those subject to the effect will often stop at very little to gain Lilith’s attentions. The power of Dark Allure diminishes by a rank if an individual is female, is aware of her identity, or wears the sign of the angels Sanvi, Sansavi and Semangelaf.

Noble Phantasm:
(RANK A+) The First Womb: The Cradle of All Evils
In Jewish lore, Lilith mated with the angel Samael upon the shores of the Red Sea, and from their coupling came the first demons. As such, Lilith’s womb itself is a Noble Phantasm, and is capable of converting mana into beings of the Sixth Imaginary Element (i.e. demons). These beings can be considered E to D rank spirits, and are intimately connected to Lilith – any prana they absorb is accessible to her. Mostly The First Womb produces incubi and succubi, but it can produce more precise results with higher ranks and varying abilities if she has a mate. Due to the nature of the Womb, Lilith can conceive by any partner… whether they be monsters, magi, or even other Servants.
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>>19677489
>Memetic Mutation reaches military.
>You can know call airstrikes on your enemies
>Memetic Mutation reaches the populace
>No need for discretion, everyone is under your control
>Memetic Mutation reaches financial centers
>Possess control over money flow

That servant is pretty damn useful
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>>19677466
your bound to find something good in there
http://g.e-hentai.org/?page=2&f_search=fate+stay+night+rider&f_apply=Apply+Filter
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>>19677518
I was actually searching on Gelbooru when I gave up.
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>>19677502

I have her translated stuff, actually.

Berserker // Franken Stein
STR: Rank C
STA: Rank B
AGL: Rank D
Mana: Rank D
Luck: Rank B
NP: Rank C

Birthplace: Central Europe
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Sex: Female
Height: 170~ cm
Weight: 40~ kg
Weapons: Mace

An artificial lifeform created by the researcher Frankenstein; she was rejected by her creator when she professed a love for him. Fearful of her interests, her creator dismembered her and escaped to his birthplace in an Alpine village outside Geneva. Reassembling herself and pursuing him on instinct, she began to recognize over time that though she was kind in nature, she was also an existence of cursed monstrosity. The understanding of the reasons behind her creator's rejection drove her to anger and despair, and she took the lives his family members, pursuing him across Europe. Her creator eventually suffered a breakdown, and at the loss of the subject of her love, hopes, and hatred, she drowned herself in the icy waters of the Arctic.

Normally slow to respond in interpersonal interaction, she exhibits surprising agility and toughness in combat; in Berserk Mode, she executes commands with extreme faithfulness. Due to a lack of skill in expression, and fearful of her own monstrous nature, she maintains a shy silence that conceals her high intelligence and empathetic capabilities. Extremely mindful of energy conservation; if her Master leaves the lights on in the bathroom after use, she will turn it off for him.
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>>19677489

Could work like the episode of Durarara where the Dollars (a ripoff of Anonymous) help a girl escape an attacker. Members are just everywhere - they hand the girl from one escape route to the next and keep putting obstacles in front of the pursuers that just look like a string of bad luck.

Facing the servant Anonymous automatically reduces every other Servant's luck rank to E. Stats are randomized for every combat encounter as a different Anonymous member shows up for each fight.

To make a clear win condition I suppose there would have to be a limited number, akin to the multiple-Assassin problem in the Fourth Grail War. Or due to the short attention span of the internet Anonymous automatically disbands and loses after two days, meaning they have to win the war in a hurry.
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>>19677523
Part 2

NOTE: Incubi & Succubi:
Rank E to D spirits that take the forms of beautiful humans. They can easily physically overpower humans, and their talons count as magical, but are hardly a match for a Servant. They possess Mystic Eyes of Charm and the ability to absorb all the prana in a person’s body through sexual contact.

(RANK A) Lilitu: The Divine Form
Lilith, if her legend is to be believed, is a being never exposed to the Apple of the Serpent, and thus without the imperfection and corruption of Original Sin. This Noble Phantasm, a part of her very body itself, reflects her incarnation not as the Mother of Monsters, but as a perfect divine human. By activating Lilitu, Lilith severs her command over the monsters of the world, but in return she receives a +3 modifier to her STR, END, and AGI scores and is in her entirety a Conceptual Weapon for the purposes of dealing damage. Additionally, in this state, she can be considered to have a Divinity rank of A+.
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>>19677528
Yes, but it's not full control.
Have you ever seen a full-time anon?
Anons come and go. They aren't fully dedicated to being Anonymous.
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Maximilien Robespierre (Berserker)
Strength C
Endurance C
Agility D
Mana C
Luck C

Manic Enhancement - Robespierre has a version of Mad Enhancement that affects his Luck and Mana. Through it, his passionate and convincing persona shows, allowing him to gain followers and support. It also means he needs less Prana than other Berserkers.

Rank C: Spark of Revolution
Robespierre inspires people to stand and act for a brighter, better future. His followers share on their and his Prana, becoming a group of low-level Spirits, capable of withstanding magical attacks. The stress on body and mind makes them uncontrollable after some time, and Robespierre will dispose of them swiftly, absorbing their Prana.

Rank B++: Reign of Terror, Republic of Virtue
Robespierre tried to build his republican utopia through swift justice, disregarding the contradiction in actions and ideals. Reign of Terror appears as the eponymous guillotine, its blade flying towards the intended target. It triples in power against beings with Divine qualities or magical talents.

Rank A: The Supreme Being
Robespierre was the leader of his own ideal of Virtue. The Supreme Being grants him passive immunity to Magecraft, as the laws of Nature are bent instinctively by his will. It also allows him to reshape these laws temporarily in his favor, mimicking True Magic in a small area. This ability comes at a great burst of Prana expenditure each time it is invoked.
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>>19677543

Skills

Scream of the False Lifeform // Scream of Terror - Rank EX
While Berserk Mode is active, the Servant is capable of emitting an immense scream, temporarily robbing enemies and allies alike of their ability to think and respond; those who do not expect it or are incapable of the mental resilience to withstand it may temporarily lose their ability to breathe. Incidentally, in Berserk Mode, the Servant expresses approval with the phrase "Yaaa," and disapproval with the phrase "Uiii." When Berserk Mode is inactive, it is impossible to detect the Servant's madness.

Galvinism - Rank EX
Free conversion of prana and electricity, with allowance for storage. Thaumaturgical attacks involving no material existence -- wind manipulation, energy bullets, beam attacks -- are converted to electricity and rendered without effect. Absorb electricity may be used to implement rapid self-repair and physical attribute reinforcement. Galvinism is a technique that falls within the domain of Alchemy.
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>>19677523
>As such, Lilith’s womb itself is a Noble Phantasm

I don;t have a reaction image horrified enough

Have Odysseus looking worried/sad
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You know... if a game did happen. I don't know what I'd wanna do more. L'aupin Saber... or Judas Avenger.

Oh well. I probably wouldn't get a chance to play the latrer, so the former it is.
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>>19677556

Noble Phantasms

Bridal Chest // Maiden's Chastity - Attack Rank: Medium
A large mace used by the Servant as a weapon. In reality, the Servant's reactor core / heart is contained within the large spherical bulb, and the fin on the opposite end remotely transfers energy to the Servant's main body. The implement constantly gathers energy wasted the Servant or present in her surroundings, and is constantly manifested outside of combat to power her. If exposed to a high-prana environment -- for example, in the midst of combat against a magic-wielding Servant -- the function of Galvinism and Bridal Chest combine to qualify the Noble Phantasm as a "Type II Perpetual Motion Engine."

Blasting Tree // Thunderous Tree of Execution - Attack Rank: High
Use of the Bridal Chest in a suicide move -- the fin of the mace is planted into the ground, and the reactor's limiters are completely released, dumping all gathered electricity into the surrounding environment as an area of effect attack. Energy release may be guided by homing sensors; may be implemented from the Servant's own body rather than the Bridal Chest if the enemy force is a single opponent within short range. Use of this technique results in permanent deactivation, but there is a low probability that a second Frankenstein's Monster will be materialized in the wake of the attack.
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>>19677489
Definitely assassin.
Probably actually has the mental form of a quest thread MC.
What kind of phantasms would s/he/it/they have, though? Maybe some kind of body splitting?
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Does anyone understand the Noble Phantasm ability stat? Saber has a C in Noble Phantasm, but I'm pretty sure that Excalibur alone is worth more than that.
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>>19677554
Fuck, I posted smack middle in Lilith
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>>19677543
Wow, I'm surprised. It's a lot closer to the original version than I though.
Though the AGL rank should be at least C. The original monster extremely agile.
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>>19677543
>>19677556
>>19677568

There ya go, all clustered up for you.

>>19677458


And for the Rider fan...hrm. All I can say, is it doesn't need to be directly sexual to be erotic.
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>>19677549
What if you had to defeat the concept of Anonymous?
Many heroes have supernatural charisma, after all.
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>>19677543
Posting one of my old servants

>Sanada Yukimura
>Lancer
>Alignment: Lawful Good
>Strength: B
>Endurance: B
>Agility: A
>Mana: C
>Noble Phantasm:EX
>Luck: C

Noble Phantasm:
>Osaka Castle: The Unbreakable Fortress
It was in this castle that Sanada Yukimura made a place on Japanese Story as one of the greatest warrriors of the country. There Sanada defended against the inumerous soldiers, cavallary, guns, cannons and other mighty warriors that Tokugawa throwed at him in order to defeat the last bastion against Tokugawa rule's in japan. While Sanada may have defeated later his acts of bravery during the siege were left in japanese history forever leading to him being called "The Crimson Demon of War","A Hero who may appear once in a hundred years" and the "Number one warrior in Japan".
When he uses this Anti-Army NP, the whole mighty castle appears behind Yukimura. The castle comes with a contingent of soldiers(not Ionian Hetaeroi level) who may help Yukimura and it's master, and a group of 10 ninjas(The Sanada Ten Braves) who are Heroic Spirits by themselves but as they are being called by Yukimura they appear weaken than if they were normally summoned. While fighting in defense of the Fort, All Yukimura stats go up in one.

Sanada can also use a minor version of it where he begins to consider any edification that he wants on the Osaka Castle gaining the bonuses on stats and half of the Senada Ten Braves but only a small handfull of souldiers
>Rank EX
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>>19677588
It's cool. Everything's getting cut up at the moment.

I imagine there'll be ANOTHER thread soon. Probably with everything dumped at the beginning again.
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>>19677607
>Noble Phantasm
Yukimura: The Hero's who appear once a 100 Years

While he made himself famous as Sanada Saemonnosuke Yukimura his true name is actually Sanada Nuboshige. Nuboshige himself adopted the name Yukimura to be able to finally become one of the greatest warriors leaving all his weakness behind with his older name
Yukimura is adept in fighting with all kinda of spear, or anything that could pass for a Lance, and every spear he uses is considered a Noble Phantasm, and will gradually become his favourite kinda of Spear : The Jumonji Giri
>Rank B

>Obligatory Genderbending version
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>>19677601
>All I can say, is it doesn't need to be directly sexual to be erotic.
Yeah, but a surprising amount of Ride art suffers from weird viewing angles.
Then again, I hate 95% of all artworks for most characters and especially hentai. My standards seem to be to high.
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>>19677592

Well, nothing is ever a direct translation for Natsu. He always tinkers a bit, but there's ALWAYS a good nod to the orginal legends.

Personally, I adore that version of 'stine. The thing that sells me is this one line:

>Extremely mindful of energy conservation; if her Master leaves the lights on in the bathroom after use, she will turn it off for him.

I don't know why. It's adorable.
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>>19677605
You mean defeat the concept of not having an identity?
Okay, this is going to end broken. Even in nasu terms.
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In the last thread you had the Lionheart, so why not Saladin?

Also, Patient Zero made me think it would work better in the constrains of what kind of souls become Heroic Spirits if he/she were an Amerindian typhoid mary of smallbox from the Columbian Exchange period.
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>>19677605

Wait them out. The meme gets stale after a short time, meaning Anonymous has to win it quickly or else everyone gets bored and dissipates back to wherever Heroic Spirits come from.
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>>19677669
Dumping Lionheart.
I'm not exactly proud with this one, but yeah

>Richard the Lionheart
>Saber
>Strength: A
>Endurance: B
>Agility: B
>Mana: C
>Luck: C

Noble Phantasm
>Lionheart - The Neverending Courage
Richard is renowed for never backing down a challenge and for being the biggest king warrior of all england history.
When Richard charges he becomes immune to any negative effect and can not be stopped until he ends the charge.
Rank: B

>Virtus - The Blade of the Lion
Different from most Sabers, Richard doesn't use a sword but actually his Great WarAxe who only he is able to use. The Axe is also different from most servants weapons because it wasn't gifted by any god or blacksmithed with an special power, it was just a normal axe until Richard made it famous by choosing it as his main weapon.
Thanks to Richard's battles, Victus begun to turn into a Noble Phantasm specialist in cutting through anything, including divine or magic protection, and as such when used, Victus will go through any protection hitting directly into the flesh
Rank:A
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>>19677669
Saladin would be vulnerable to concealed attacks, as his experiences with the Hashishins show.

>First Assassin victory ever
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Regarding Biblical servants, the Church is known to keep a lockdown on holy relics to prevent that sort of dickery.
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>>19677669


Saladin: The one who united Islam

Class: Rider/Berserker/Saber
Gender: Male
Attribute: Lawful Evil
Strength: B
Endurance: C
Agility: A
Mana: C
Magic Resistance: C-
Instinct: A
Charisma: B~A++

The One who united all of Islamic faith and is the harbinger of doom to those of Christian ties, Saladin was born a humble slave and was adopted by an Islamic aristocrat in his early years as a kid. He was just reaching his early teens when he witnessed the brutality of the Christian crusaders. Witnessing the horrible, bloody massacres of his friends and families during the most fragile periods of his life, Saladin swore an oath to his god that he will purge the enemies of his god. Ignoring the message of peace that the jihad embraced, Saladin set out on a bloody conquest to unite the people of Islam and drive the lowly heretics out of his rightful homeland. His name is feared by all who endorse the belief of Christianity and those alike.

Special feats:

(Fake-Radical) Muslim:
True Muslims are pacifists who refrain from using force. Saladin, as a Religious Warrior who is motivated by rage of Christianity rather than by the code of Jihad will use any means necessary to gain victory against Christianity and believers of heretics.

Eye of the mind Rank A:
Through countless battles and series of Heroic Victories, Saladin has earned the ability to literally foresee the outcome of a battle. While Rank B eye of the mind only boosts the chance of winning a battle, Rank A eye of the mind goes beyond that restriction. Even in a certain death situation, Saladin will almost always avoid fatality and live on so long as he keeps his focus.
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>>19677601
>using your own hair as a scarf
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>>19677523
>>19677552
You know... after reading back over that, I realized that I may have created the most /d/ Servant ever. I can't think of a way to play this without turning a campaign into a very dark ERP.

Oh well. Fate is technically an ero-setting anyway.
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>>19677722
Wasn't Saladin a pretty swell dude in real life?
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>>19677722

Doom bringer of Christians:
Upon encountering Christians, his mental abilities such as his charisma will dramatically increase. For example, confronting an agent of the burial agency will Grant him a charisma of (A+). Maximum stat (A++) will be achieved when he encounters a Christian divinity such as that of a pope.

Mage craft :E-
Saladin has absolutely no knowledge of sorcery since he is a radical muslim who hates anything related to magic.

Codes of Honor, Mercy:
While a radical Muslim, he hasn’t entirely abandoned the teachings of jihad. He will leave be his opponents so long as he/she surrenders regardless of their religious backgrounds

Noble Phantasms

Scimitar of Bloody Cross (Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm, Rank C~A++): Including Mystery Rank
The ultimate Anti-Christian Armament, Stained with the blood of approximately nine thousand nine hundred and seventy six Christian pilgrims, it failed to achieve its peak power as it failed to kill ten thousand pilgrims. If perfected, the max rank would have reached beyond A++ to EX rank. When fighting a Non-Christian opponent this scimitar has only the potency of a Rank C Noble Phantasm but when faced with a Christian related opponent such as the burial agents it’s rank will exponentially increase in accordance to the (adversary’s Christian faith + the strength of the opponent’s Christian armament.)
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>>19677747

Round Shield of Crescent Moon (Armor-Unit Noble Phantasm, Rank D~A): Including Mystery Rank
Similar to the scimitar of bloody cross, with an emphasis on the defense. It is made from the burnt out remains of the first ever sheep slain for an offering to the god, for which god is not yet known. (Effects everything religious)

Shadowmere (The Beast that walks the Void of desert Night, Mythical Beast Rank: B~B+)
A hybrid Stallion, Born between a Divine mythical beast that dwells on the surface of the Dead Sea and a beautiful Black Stallion that ate only the flesh of deceased Royalties in the Royal kingdom of Egypt, It boasts Skin as hard as the famed Lost armor of Mythrill and Fur as dark as the shadow of the night itself. It is as agile as ten horses combined and can out class any conventional four wheel drive of the present in a speed fight (170Km/hr). When used as an offensive Measure Shadowmere Accelerates to its Maximum speed (Temporary Speed 300Km/hr), as it creates attritions on the ground, his hooves heat up to almost a thousand degrees, fire engulfs him before his body is entirely lit up in flames, at this point the beast will charge at its enemy, when hit, it will not explode but cut right through the target, incinerating everything around along with it. The fire will die down as Shadowmere stops his acceleration. (Could kill Berserker 6 times in a go when hit directly)
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>>19677743

As long as you were not a Christan, yeah.
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>>19677766
No, but like a pretty swell guy compared to the christians?
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>>19677760

Signature Move: Reality Marble

Chant:

“Cry out the sins of thy kin, Drown under the cauldron of molten lead.
The crescent moon hath awakened.
Thou hath stained the words of the divine with thee stench.
With thou false belief thee hath undone our unity.
So we say, with the voice of truth we shall prevail,
With our religion of immaculacy we shall bring thou salvation,
With the might of our god we shall giveth hell.
So forth now champion, we challenge you!
“The Legion of faith!”

Legion of Faith Anti-Fortress (Base Rank A, relative rank can reach up to EX)

Saladin’s true origin is in “Heroic Victories” (Much like shirou’s origin is swords). He has gone through impossible odds and emerged victorious in almost every confrontation against vast armies. While these kinds of battles usually remain just an imagery of the past to many heroes, Saladin is special in that Every “Heroic Victories” he has won is literally ‘gained’. The victories he won are accumulated in the records of Akasha and are stored within his origin until his Reality Marble chant is invoked. Upon the activation of LOF, detailed record of the battle in which Saladin achieved “Heroic victory” is manifested to a pristine detail as an innate bound field. Once the initial expansion is complete, Both Saladin and his enemy acquire ‘armies’. The enemy will take control of precisely the same number of armies as when Saladin faced that particular army in the original given condition. Saladin too will take hold of the same number of army as when he had started the battle prior to his “Heroic victories”. Positioning of the armies are also exactly the same as designated, prior to the original battle. The geographical conditions will also mimic the original condition to around 95%.
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>>19677592
Keep in mind that even a D is well beyond a normal human. Hell, E is supposedly above the level of your average human.
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>>19677664
I actually meant the movement itself.
The individuals don't have a name, but the movement does.
Anonymous would also be highly unstable due to its random nature of people constantly joining and leaving.
I guess there'd be some supernatural aspect in being cross-cultural and working despite language barriers.

How about this:
You need to defeat Anonymous to destroy it.
What this means? Depends.
Example:
HBGary lost against Anonymous.
Simply raiding a website is obviously not enough, though. You have to strike against the banner of Anonymous and humiliate it.
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>>19677719
You can summon without relic. You would get a Servant most close to you in terms of personality. Also, thrifty.
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>>19677779

The RM doesn’t require additional mana to sustain but it does set limitations. The Battle should be resolved within a set amount of time. For example, if the original battle took precisely 24 hours to finish, then the current battle should also be finished within that 24 hour time. Plus, both Saladin and his adversary are stripped off of their noble phantasms during this battle. In effect, only mental stats such as charisma, Instinct, Eye of the mind and experience plays the decisive role in the outcome of the battle.

If Saladin either annihilates his enemy or at least reduces the number of the armies to 20% its original strong within that designated time, the battle will be considered as another “Heroic victory” and will also be added to the records of Akasha. But, if Saladin fails accomplish any of the feats above, he will lose a record of his heroic victories at random which will result in a loss of some of his natural traits. If the enemy is still alive in the event of Saladin’s victory, the enemy’s NP’s/weapons will be stripped off of him/her forever, effectively ensuring victory to Saladin.
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>>19677743
Not really. Like many such figures, his better attributes have been heavily romanticised and saturated with hyperbole. He was just as dickish as anyone else was during the Crusades.
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Normally depicted in Japanese media, both old 70's/80's live action shows and contemporary anime/vidya, as having sold his soul to the devil in his dying moments in order to avenge his slaughtered Christian followers, Amakusa Shiro, the Japanese Christian martyr of the Shimbara rebellion, would make a good edition to the ranks of Heroic Spirits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimabara_Rebellion
The discontented, masterless samurai of the region, as well as the peasants, began to meet in secret and plot an uprising; this broke out in the autumn of 1637,[1] when the local daikan (tax official) Hayashi Hyōzaemon was assassinated. At the same time, others rebelled in the Amakusa Islands. The rebels quickly increased their ranks by forcing all in the areas they took to join in the uprising. A charismatic 16 year-old youth, Amakusa Shirō, was soon chosen as the rebellion's leader.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amakusa_Shir%C5%8D
The son of former Konishi clan retainer Masuda Jinbei (益田 甚兵衛?) (according to some sources, Shirō may have been the illegitimate son of Toyotomi Hideyori), Shirō was born in modern-day Kami-Amakusa, Kumamoto in a Catholic family. The charismatic 15-year-old was known to his followers as "heaven's messenger." Miraculous powers were attributed to him.[1]
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>>19677766
He was a total bro to his archnemesis, even helping him out.
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>>19677800

There is, of course some more drawbacks. Due to the inherent nature of “Heroic victories” Saladin’s armies are almost always going to be outnumbered by his enemy’s armies. But as Saladin has an innate talent in command, Deep knowledge of the battle conditions present and complete mastery of medieval warfare, the odds are going to depend on the opponent’s mentality, not the actual number of the army. If you’re anything Christian this Reality Marble is an assured gateway to death. It is estimated that this Reality Marble could have the power to devastate the entire church organization put together. In that case the only way to avoid Destruction is to surrender. (Against church=A++ Charisma)

Heroes such as Gilgamesh (Rank A Charisma, Lack of Medieval infantry knowledge, lack of geographical knowledge) and Arturia (Rank B Charisma, Probably a bit of christian tie) should be able to fare reasonably well with Saladin, Gilgamesh will give him a tough stalemate fight while Arturia will rely heavily on defense and skirmish to survive.
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First Magic: Ether Hax
Second Magic: Space
Third Magic: Soul
Fifth Magic: Time

Are these tied to Elements or something? What would the Second probably do?
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There you go, the Saladin in my notes. Sorry it's so damned long.
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>>19677793
This is actually contentious.

The only servant we have EVER seen summoned without a relic is F/Z caster. And some people are willing to argue the terrified child serves as a perfectly fine catalyst. A lot of the stuff about catalyst (and that one line where it talks personality) are worded weird, possibly due to poor translation.
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Sometimes I suspect that Nasu just randomly threw stats and numbers together and that the perimeters in Fate don't mean anything at all.
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>>19677822
>What would the FOURTH probably do?
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>>19677840
DBZ Abridged put it best:
"Power levels are BULLSHIT"
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>>19677822
Second Magic isn’t space, it’s about Parallel Dimensions. We know that it allowed its master to hop between dimensions, draw infinite energy by siphoning from infinite other worlds, and a bunch of other stuff.
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>>19677840
Sounds like Jojo stands.
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>>19677839
Rin explicitly mentions that servants don't have to be summoned via relic in F/SN doesn't she?

As I recall, F/SN Rider, Caster and Fake Assassin didn't have relics, and True Assassin's relic was a huge stretch, being the flesh of fake Assassin.

F/Z Assassin didn't use a relic either did he? Was Zero Lancer even summoned by a relic?
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>>19677822
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-184
Maybe like this.
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>>19677803

> Shiro led the defence of Hara Castle and defeated the strongest of the Shogunate attackers in a series of coordinated defensive surges. But, because the rebel force had no logistical support, their morale was seriously weakened in the following days. Shiro displayed posters in the castle in an attempt to enhance the morale of rebel force, saying "Now, those who accompany me in being besieged in this castle, will be my friends unto the next world." But a rebel soldier Yamada Uemonsaku betrayed Shiro and notified Shogunate the truth that rebels food supplies were becoming strained. The Shogunal forces performed a final assault, taking Hara Castle in the process. The Shogunal forces massacred almost 40,000 rebels, including women and children. Yamada, who previously betrayed his fellow rebels, was the only recorded survivor.

>Shiro was executed in the aftermath of the fall, his head being displayed on a pike in Nagasaki for an extended period of time afterward as a warning to any other potential Christian rebels. His final words were: "I shall return after 100 years and take my revenge." Even now, many Japanese christian consider Shiro as a saint, but the Roman Catholic Church has not officially listed him as canon.

> pic: statues of Jizo, boddhisatva of mercy, beheaded by the Amakusa sect
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>>19677879
Rider and Caster were both summoned with relics.

Of the assassins I am not particularly certain. I doubt Fake Assassin counts for much, considering how fucked up that was already. And True Assassin wasn't catalyst'd by the flesh of Fake Assassin, he just used it to become actualized. Zouken had already summoned his spirit and put it inside a bug, IIRC.
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Guan Yu
Lancer

Strength: A
Endurance: A+
Agility: C
Mana: C
Luck: E

Noble Phantasm: Green Dragon Crescent Blade. The first guandao, this noble phantasm shatters whatever it strikes unless it's a higher-ranked Noble Phantasm or possesses unusually high magical resistance.

Reality Marble - Oath of the Peach Garden

Guan Yu recites the oath (or a slightly rewritten one that focuses on "Though we were not born on the same day, may we die together!") to summon the Peach Garden where he, Zhang Fei and Liu Bei swore the famous oath. Within the garden hs brothers in arms battle by Guan Yu's side.

>A general in the warring states period. Revered for his strength and virtue, inventor of the Guan Dao, brother in arms to Liu Bei and Zhang Fei.
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>The Three Knight Classes (These are more powerful than the other classes by design. More on this later)

Has this been elaborated on?
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>>19677957
Sorry!

Essentially, the Main Families (Tohsaka, Matou, and Einzbern) gave themselves the strong classes. Everyone else was just included to fill the spots.
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>>19677957
What do you want to know about them?

They're the three original classes that were present in the first war. The others were added later when they figured out they needed more participants. The implication is they are intentionally weaker in order to trap outside magi.

I'm not sure they're exactly stronger. They are, on the whole, better than Caster, Assassin, and Berserker, but I'm not entirely sure they're straight up better than Rider.
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>>19677957
Yes. Basically, the whole Grail War is a sham. It is designed to give its orchestrators access to the Great Grail’s wish. So, naturally, they built in a way for them to maximize their success rate.
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>>19678001
Wasn't that Rider in FSN a special case? Having such a bullshit powerful phantasm and all?>>19677975
I see.
>>19678006
I was about to ask about this.
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Jezebel
Berserker
Alignment: Chaotic Evil

Strength: A
Endurance: A+
Agility: C
Mana: D
Luck: E

Description: Jezebel appears as a powerfully-built, 6'2 woman with black armour and a large sword, and fiery red hair. Once, she may have been simply an unpopular representative of the Phoenicians, but now she has been fully corrupted by her portrayal in myth and legend, and embraces her role completely. Jezebel is consumed by hatred for all aspects of Abrahamic religions, and seeks the grail to wipe them from the world utterly.

Ability: Hated Foe - Jezebel is empowered by her hatred and thirst for vengeance when presented with a foe from Christian, Jewish, or Islamic tradition, pushing her already mighty strength and endurance to near-insurmountable levels, although collateral damage is unlikely to be considered.

Noble Phantasm: Hounds of Jerusalem - Jezebel may summon a pack of spectral hounds that hunt down and rip her foes apart. The hounds are invisible unless attacking, and thus this Noble Phantasm is particularly dangerous, although the individual hounds are weak (Rank B)
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The Lilith in this thread vs the Solomon from EGO's Grail War would be apocalyptic as fuck.
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Manfred von Richthofen

Strenght: E
Endurance: B
Agility: A
Mana: D
Luck: B

Ability: Dicta Boelcke (C) (Passive)
The Red Baron sticks close to the rules laid down by WW I, German flying ace Oswald Boelcke, no matter what. He may resist attempts compelling him to do otherwise.

Phantasm: Flying Circus (A)
Von Richthofen can summon his subordinates from Jagdgeschwader 1, composed of Jastas 4, 6, 10 and 11, as Rank E servants at the cost of a continuous drain of his mana, untill he no longer needs them or his mana runs out.

Its very generic but this guy needs to be a Heroic Spirit. Please do a better job if you think you can.
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>>19678006

...why have a war at all, then?
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>>19678085
Because it is necessary for the Grail to achieve the Wish.

Otherwise it just doesn't quite work.
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>>19678085
Because a Grail is Hax.
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>>19678085
Because they need a way to convince a load of magi to spend their resources so that ONE guy from one the three orchestrator families gets a wish.

The Grail needs its sacrifices. Without the sacrifices, no wish. And without the promise that anyone can get the wish, there’s no sacrifices.
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>>19678106

Didn't they create this Grail, though? I thought there was something in Fate/Zero about how the Grail in that war is only one of a large number, and not the original.
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>>19678085
One, the grail can only help one person and magi are selfish pricks.

Two, I think it might be part of the ritual, but that just might be certain people talking bullshit. We do know that the Servants have to die for the ritual to work. We don't know if the war bit is strictly necessary.

ZOMG SPOILERS: Keep in mind that it doesn't actually grant wishes at all. It's just a portal that takes people to the Root when activated.
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>>19678129
They created the thing, but they still need to fuel it to make it function. That's where the Servants come in. Each dead Servant provides a bunch of power to the Grail. It takes about six Servants worth for most wishes. It may need seven to achieve the really bullshit ones.

In fact, as I recall, the first War was a bust because they only used three Servants then and ended up with too little 'fuel'.
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>>19678129
The Church calls pretty much anything that resembles the mythic Grail a Holy Grail. The Fuyuki Grail is one of many in that regard.

The specific form/mechanics/attributes of the Grail are unique, though.
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>>19678148
As far as I know, it *does* grant wishes. But it's expected to take seven Servants worth of power to manage breaking through to the Root.

Not that anyone has managed to do that in the span of five Wars.
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>>19678148

Interesting. What exactly is The Root, then?

I thought that the reason the Grail turned evil was something about one of the original three families summoning Avenger during the third war? Was it always tainted, or just after that?
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>>19678191
So.... did a shitty servant ever win?

also, 0 out of 5 is not a very good record...
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>>19678191
You could use it to grant wishes, in the same way you can use a gun to grant wishes, so long as your wish is GIVE ME YOUR MONEY.

It's just a large amount of magic energy, not an 'omnipotent wish granting machine'.
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>>19678196
> What exactly is The Root, then?

Akasha, or the Root, is where EVERYTHING comes from in Nasuverse. Everything can be traced back to it, period. Everything has a place in Akasha's records, everything is connected to the Root.

Now. Imagine a Mage got a good look at that.
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>>19678208
I think a Saber took home like, 3 out of 5 wars in the canon.
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>>19678196
The Root is the source. What is exactly is is pretty unclear, but it may or may not be the blueprints of the universe or some shit. In any case, it is what all magi aspire to reach.

>I thought that the reason the Grail turned evil was something about one of the original three families summoning Avenger during the third war? Was it always tainted, or just after that?
You are correct. They attempted summon an evil god, got some shitty dude from a backwater village who basically voted him to be Official Scapegoat For Everything. They basically beat the shit out of him and called him All The Evils In The World.

He got his shit kicked in during the Third Grail War, got sent to the greater grail, which apparently granted his wish or some shit and made him literally become All The Evil In The World, irrevocably corrupting the Grail.

Happy fucking times.
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>>19678278
Considering it has been taken home a grand total of no times, that would be rather difficult.
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>>9678287
What is the "Greater Grail"?
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>>19678323
Part of the Grail.

Don't worry about it.
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>>19678208
If you count one of the Bad Ends, yes. Caster in F/SN won by using Shirou as a wand (don't ask). I think there were other Bad Ends where Berserker or some other Servants won.
You can also win with Caster in Fate/Extra. But it's very different from regular War. Whether it's canon or not produce flame war, however.
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>>19678335
Shirou's pretty OP, presumably wins the war with no servants at all in Mind of Steel.
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>>19678332
If I ever play a game based on the grail war THERE IS SO MUCH SHIT I AM IGNORING.
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>>19678390
Such a fantastic concept, so much bullshit fucking with it.

We should just say fuck the grail war and come up with a cleaner excuse to have ancient heroes fighting eachother with POWER LEVELS.
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>>19678429
Why do we need an excuse? One night heroes of legends appear in one city and start fighting. The end.
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>>19678390
Things that I'd ignore:
200 Year rule
NO GUNZ
Otherwise, it's pretty solid.
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>>19678429
Yes! Absolutely!
It will be GLORIOUS, and SIMPLE.

I prefer the reason of 'WHY THE FUCK NOT?!' myself.
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>>19678429
i would think a setup similar to fate/extra's would work
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>>19678481
no the "glorious hassan" one?
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>>19678518
Eh. Hassan is a pretty quick "I want this to be my Zabanyia" and BOOM. Instant Servant. It just has to be killy. Or have the potential to be extremely killy. Stats are second with a Hassan. The Zabanyia is everything.
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>>19678481
I would've also get rid of the "the older the better" rule. If a hero is strong in legend, he/she is strong as a Servant.

And Hassan. We need more different assassins.
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Archived. Since somebody archived the previous tread.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19674077/
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>>19678572
I agree. Having Multiple Hassans is more a stop gap measure. The problem is, there aren't really any people outside of the Hassans that fit the requirements: Killing without becoming discovered. Jack The Ripper, The Zodiac Killer, they fit. But most of the others... It's going to be pretty damn hard.
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>>19678618
Mmm, serial killer who haven't been found? Political assassins in cases where nobody proved anything? Like this guy with polonium. But yeah, I see your point.
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>John Paul Jones
>Rider
>Alignment: Chaotic Good
>Strength: D
>Endurance: A
>Agility: D
>Mana: A
>Luck: C

John Paul Jones was a celebrated naval hero of the American Revolution, a fiery commander with a fighting spirit second to none.

Abilities:
Command: JPJ commands a ghost crew of every sailor he'd ever commanded - A captain and his crew form a bond never broken, even after death itself - these men crew JPJ's weapon, the Spirit of Revolution.


>Noble Phantasm - (A, Anti Army (Navy?)
The Spirit of Revolution
An amalgam ship of every command John Paul Jones had ever had, crewed by the souls of sailor who was under his command, the Spirit of Revolution is a ghost ship capable of leveling entire harbors. It may also be used on land, whereupon the ship takes ghostly flight and bombards whatever is unfortunate enough to fight it.

Noble Phatasm: I Have Not Yet Begun To Fight!

JPJ's stubbornness and spirit were legendary. With great determination and a little luck, even the most imbalanced situations can be brought to your favor. Once per fight, if deemed suitably desperate, JPJ may make a boastful taunt - this repairs damage to himself, his crew, and his ship and allows them to keep fighting as if nothing had happened.
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>>19678653
Yeah. That's why Hassan is used. Otherwise the only other real option that I can think of is Jack the Ripper.
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One of the main things I don't like is the the NO REAL MAGIC bullshit.
If someone thinks it's an actually very good system, PLEASE explain why.
(yes, I know real magic exists in the setting and can be used by the number of fuckall people)
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>>19678711
It's because NOW magic is a lot weaker.
Normal magic can bend the laws of nature, not break them. Even in the past that was true, it's just they could be bent further.
The sorceries literally defy the laws of reality. Creating something from nothing. Altering the fabric of reality. Traveling through time. Creating souls. Entering parallel worlds. Accessing infinite energy.
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>>19678699
Fate/Apocrypha had Semiramis as a possible Assassin. Unfortunately, it seems her development was incomplete - we have her legend, but not her skills or her Noble Phantasms.
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>>19678711
What are you talking about? Thaumaturgy is basically magic; it just has its limits.

This is good because it negates certain Deus Ex Machina (the wizard brought them all back to life, huzzah!) and it gives the mages of the setting character. They have a goal to strive for.
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>>19678711
>One of the main things I don't like is the the NO REAL MAGIC bullshit.

Thaumaturgy is "Magic".

The Sorceries are just "JESUS CHRIST DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT" level magic, while most mages in Nasu are heavily focused.
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>>19678816
Yeah. Also, time mages have it tough. The world actively tries to kill them when they use their magic. The Fifth Sorcery finds a way around that I think, which is WHY it's the fifth sorcery.
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Grigori Rasputin

Caster

strength: c
Endurance: EX
agility: C
Mana: A
luck: B
charisma:C~A

ability:holy healer (B)
Known as a healer during life, Rasputin has the ability to heal both chronic and acute illneses for himself and allies

ability:Tsar's favour
Rasputin is a master at ingrating himself with the ruling powers, and as such, when dealing with them, increases his effective charisma from C to A

Noble Phantasm: the eight lives of the mad monk
Rasputin was legendarily impervious to death, and as such has to be killed eight times, each death reducing his endurance (EX>A+>A>B>C>D>E>dead)
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>>19678855
Could use some work, but a solid foundation in my opinion.
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>>19678562

Example:

Hassan-i Sabbah
Assassin

Strength: D
Endurance: E
Agility: A
Mana: C
Luck: C

Skills:

Presence Concealment: A
Body Modification: B
Projectile (Daggers): C

Noble Phantasm:

Zabaniya: Delusional Nightmare
Somehow, this Hassan managed to remove his face and replace it with that of Satan. Upon removing his mask, all who see it must either deflect it (by means of Magic Resistance rank B or higher) or resist through sheer force of will. Any who do not negate it fall into their own worst nightmare, where their fears literally kill them.
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>>19678816
Yeah. The one mage I created for one of these [Salomé Chastain, servant: Hannibal Barca] focused heavily on frictional magic and creating 'shells' of different movement levels, allowing her to curve shit crazily by manipulating the forces pressing on it, the disadvantage being that since she was always adding resistance, used on a bullet or whatever it would slow it down and rob it of force - it was mostly a defensive magic.
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>>19678562

Also worth mentioning, Zabaniya involves removing a body part and replacing it with the Devil's equivalent. The only exception was already in Fate/Zero
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>Acting like I know the setting after me asking who the administrator is
I don't know the setting all, I just know
>legendary souls fighting for a wish
>Gilgamesh is strong
>POWERLEVELS
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>>19678911
Never before has my old Persona battle-cry "BY SATAN'S SIXTH TIT" seemed more appropriate.
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>>19678911

And they all essentially look like this.
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>>19678911
Actually, it's just modifying the body. So, in the case of True Assassin, it was literally making his arm the devils. For another assassin, it might be concealing blades within his arms, or extra arms. Or replacing his legs with more powerful versions. There's no limit to it really.
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>>19678958
Minus the lost one, of course.
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>>19678945

Did...did Satan have tits? How would that work? Kills dudes via excess of blood in one region of their bodies?
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>>19678958
>Female Hassan

Yep, Tits of Satan.
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>>19678915
Here's a quick rundown for you

>>19677092
>>19677096
>>19677106
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>>19678980
The Persona Satan design does.

Six of them.

And technically, he'd have to. You could call them pecs, but that's not as funny.
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>>19678975

That's...extremely correct, now that I think about it. Always remembered it as having to graft a piece of Satan on yourself.
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>>19678980
>Did...did Satan have tits?
Depends on who you ask.
Some describe the Devil as having both male and female genitalia. No clue about tits.

>beenxir appearance
Captcha's opinion
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>>19679033
Well, I assume most of the grafts would be of supernatural origin. Werewolf legs, Djinn arms, that sort of thing.
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>>19679052
>Futa Hassan

...Well, someone had to say it.
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>>19679124
Zabaniya: Ungodly Penis?
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>>19679124
The only futa is Arturia. Just enough to give Mordred two mommies.

>Not letting you play Lucius Artorius Castus
Fucking Nasuverse
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>>19679150
So is Mordred a girl or a dude?
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>>19679150
Merlin: ultimate troll.
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>>19679157
I think it's a dude with a lady face.
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>>19679185
Or the reverse.
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>>19679157
Dude. I think. I'm not too sure. And I think that it wasn't Arturias bastard in the Nasuverse. He was a cousin or something.
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Hey, EGO (or anyone who has it saved), do you still have the servant stats from the last grail war quest? If so, would you mind posting them?
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>>19679292
Not on me, sorry. Wouldn't be that hard to look through the archives.

I will happily admit that many of the Servants in that war were fudged beyond belief. I only wrote Skinwalker's stats once, then erased them and ran him off "This seems right".
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>>19679139
Yes. But what would it DO?
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>>19679292
http://pastebin.com/QcayLfgP

Here's a couple of them. Check out Holy Grail War in the suptg tags.
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>>19679319
Rape you to death?
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>>19679319
"That I can answer in one word: Tentacles!"
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>>19679362
I was thinking...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pWvKx1x1pk
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>>19679416
Hahahaha. Missed that.
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Zabaniya: Ungodly Phallus would surely implant the seed of demons on a target. They would grow through the Pana expenditure and lolhauntrape them until nothing remains.

Sixth Elementh forever, baby.
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>>19679502
Now combine this guy with Servant Lilith.
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Dante, Son of Sparda
Saber
Strenght:A
Endurance:C
Agility:B
Mana:B
Luck:A

(Skills go here, something for his acrobatics and his battle skill, probably EoTM and Battle Continuation)

Noble Phantasms

Alastor, the God Of Lightning
Anti-Personell
Rank C
A hand and a half broadsword imbued with the power of lightning, Alastor is a tried and true blade of Dante's. When used against 'demons' of any sort, it is treated as a rank higher. Dante is well-versed in swordplay, and has many manuevers for this weapon.


Ebony/Ivory
Anti-Personell
Rank D
Two firearms, one black, the other silver. Both weapons can be assumed to have infinite ammo so long as Dante is supplied with mana, and can retrieve them from their holsters instantly. The impact of the bullets is far greater than physics should allow, keeping enemies in the air and knocking them about.


Wild Style
Personal
Rank EX
Dante is a master of flamboyant and excessive manuevers. When in battle, he may commit such wild manuevers at no penalty to himself - but those caught in them find themselves having trouble acting at all. This ability is similar to a weak Reality Marble, but does not manifest an internal reality.


Devil Trigger
Personal
Rank B
Once a day, Dante may unleash his demonic heritage. While in this state, Most Style is always active, and all abilities are up one rank. Other Anti-personell Phantasms he uses are also up one rank. Attacks do not damage him unless they are above C rank.
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>>19679544
Dante confirmed for the Grail War then?
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>>19679567
Possibly.

really, I'm just hashing shit out.
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>>19679574
Ah. How many spots are still available for servants?
Because having Kharne as Berserker would be awesome.
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I think we should stick with real/mythology guys
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>>19679605
Agreed. But EGO said the Grail got fucked up. So, yeah. Gonna have to work with that.
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>>19679574
>>19679567
wait a second
does this mean statting video game characters?
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>>19679620
it could just mean more villains, evil guys or concepts(Nusery Rhyme)
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Almost made Anon-kun from MxD into a Servant. Glad I stopped myself.
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>>19679632
It's only a possibility - this next Grail I have planned releases penalties for being a False. Which means fictional heros are available.
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>>19679635
True. But what EGO said was that they were available now.
>>19679632
I guess, if you want to.
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Only old (setting?) game characters, I think. They need a barely plausible Legend, after all.
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>>19679767
I'd say any character with believable motivations for seeking the Grail would work. For example, the Master Chief seeking it to kill off the Flood in all galaxies.
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>>19679808
I just think we will enter a very DARK territory if we start putting videogame characters in it
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>>19680071
Agreed. But it's what EGO wants. Blame him. I'm just along for the fucking ride.
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Had to try creating a character.

Zero, Maverick Hunter
Saber
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Strength: A
Endurance: C
Agility: A
Mana: B
Luck: D

Zero is skilled with blades and also has knowledge to pilot/drive most vehicles.

Noble Phantasms

Z-Saber
Anti-Personnel
Rank A++
Zero's main weapon. It is a powerful close-range weapon with a blade composed of energy. It has the ability to slice through most materials (up to 300 mm of reinforced steel in one stroke), and has been known to slice lesser enemies in half with great ease. Due to its unique construction, it has the ability to charge, unleashing an explosive shockwave upon impact. This charged attack be unleashed on the ground in order to attack enemies above as well. In the hands of Zero, the Z-Saber can also be used for various special attacks (EX-Skills).


Z-Buster
Anti-Personnel
Rank B
A chargeable arm cannon embedded in Zero's arm and his only concievable mid- to long-range weapon. Powered by his mana, it is assumed to have infinite ammunition. As it is chargable, it can charge up to three levels, each consecutive level more dangerous than the last; this is limited to the fact that it takes varying amounts of time to charge up past level one.

(cont.)
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>>19680111
Command Arts (More commonly referred to as EX-Skills)
Personal
Rank EX
Zero is a master swordsman, and as such has the ability to gain new techniques or fighting styles after combating another Servant. Each technique gained has some attribute derrived from the Servant. He already knows several EX-Skills from battles he has had in the past (future?), such as Raijingeki, Kuuenbu, Kuuenzan, Ryuenjin, Hyouretsuzan, Shippuuga, and Genmurei, among others.


Dash Boots
Personal
Rank C
Zero's legs have jets built into them, allowing him to dash for short distances at greater speed.


Zero Virus
Personal
Rank EX
Activated only once, and from then on his alignment is forever changed to Chaotic Evil. If an enemy were to strike (and destroy) the crystal on Zero's head/helmet, it would awaken his "true" self. Zero then hears the voice of his creator inside of his head. The voice tells him to wake up, assuring Zero that he (Zero) is the best of all his (Dr. Wily's) works and ordering Zero to destroy "it". Zero's purpose for the Grail then changes to allowing him to destroy his one-time friend, X.


Thoughts? I didn't want to include the last one because he now has five NPs, but it could definitely provide an interesting dynamic.
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Well, if we're doing videogame characters...

The Nameless One
Any class
Alignment: True Neutral
All stats are E rank
Has skills appropriate to the class he's summoned in at low rank.

Noble Phantasms:

Forgotten Lives (Personal) A
Certain events and words trigger memories of the past incarnations of the Nameless One. Experiencing of this memories increases ranks of stats and skill and might even grant new NP. It's impossible to predict what a certain memory would do in advance.

The Void of the Multiverse (Personal) EX
Every time the Nameless One dies, some other Servant dies in his place. The Nameless One himself revives shortly after losing all memories and benefits of the Forgotten Lives Phantasm.

So yeah, completely broken but fun.
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>>19680284
From Planescape: Torment?
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>>19680325
Yes.
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>>19680332
I love it.
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>>19680111
>>19680124
I probably would leave Zero Virus to be an NP that only activates when summoned as Berserker.

Dash Boots doesn't really need to be a Noble Phantasm at all.

Command Arts... I'm not quite sure about.
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I mean fuck

Asura The Destructor
Berserker
Strenght:A+++
Endurance:A+
Agility:A-
Mana:B+
Luck:F

>Mad Enhancement:EX
Asura anger at the beginning of the war will start at C level and as the war goes on it will gradually rise as he and his master faces more danger.
If his master(or someone he grews attached with) dies and Asura fails to protect him his mad Enhancement will grow to EX level where every single one of his stats, outside of luck, will reach maximum level possible for a servant. During that time Asura will begin to self destruct and will attack anyone in sight until he gets knocked out or someone dear to his hart manage to stop him

>Noble Phantasm
>Wrath Reactor - The Eternal Rage That Boils Within His Belief
Every living being has 8 Mantras who fuel their spirits, but Asura different from the others is fueled purely by the Mantra-type Wrath. Because of it Asura is constantly on a eternal rage, and while he will not attack anyone who he seems innocent his rage is never fulfilled leading Asura to slowly self destruct.
Because of the reactor that fuels his body with wrath Asura can Grow New Sets of Arms, Create Armour around him and throw mighty blasts of pure wrathful energy,and fly at highspeeds, and as his wrath grows all his attacks will grow stronger with him
>Rank EX

the stuff you can do with videogame characters is fucking ridiculous.
JUST LOOK AT THIS FUCKER.
the amount of shit he did at his game surpasses anything that Gil can even think on doing
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>>19680411
thats a nice luck you have there.
would be a shame if something were to happen to it
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>>19680382
Good point about the Berserker/Zero Virus aspect as well as the Dash Boots. I just figured that if the boots were damaged, he'd be out of luck for that extra speed boost (and subsequent attacks made with the Z-Saber).

As for the Command Arts, it's honestly the only thing Zero has going for him as he can be disarmed and his Z-Buster can be destroyed (so easily that he actually does it a few times). It just gives him an extra facet to his glass cannon status. It could probably be toned down to just grant him the special techniques he learned from destroying past Maverick bosses, though, if it needed a lot of tweaking.
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>>19680411
Fuck that noise. His stats are that high right off the bat, along with those powers? For balancing purposes, I'd say give him:

Strength: B
Endurance: B+
Agility: D
Mana: C
Luck: F

That way there's a distinct growth for Mad Enhancement.
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>>19680561
Indeed that's probably the only thing that can fuck Asura
though is one of those things i'm not sure how to gauge at all.

How do you guys decide the luck of a servant?
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>>19680592
Luck is something like 'how much you can defy fate'. Hence why high Luck is a potential defense against Gae Bolg's melee activation - after Gae Bolg rewrites causality to predetermine that you've been stabbed, one with high Luck can reject that fate, making it possible for Gae Bolg to miss the heart anyways.
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>>19680710
Well.
Shit.
I guess Asura has high Luck after all...
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>>9680741
No he doesn't, he dies. MULTIPLE TIMES.
All he has is RRRRAAAAAAAGGGEEE.
His berserker enhance should be EX++++
I mean FUCK.
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>>19680874
Yes
And with his rage he managed to destroy The Creator Himself.
Fuck, if this isn't the most extreme act of "Defy Fate" i don't know anything
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>>9680907
Phantasm: RAAAAGE
Holy fuck is this mother fucker angry! He killed killed THE top god... With nothing other than his HATE! When Asuras mad enhancement peaks, his luck stat turns to EX, because how else can you kill your own god?
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>>19680953
>>19680874
Jesus Christ Man, get your links straight
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>>19680965
Damnit. I'm doing this by hand, because quoting on 4chan mobile is a lie.
So is turning OFF mobile view.


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