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Part 6 has begun, rejoice players, rejoice!
The forests are a temperate wooded region covering the majority of Delta continent. Four seasons of spring, summer, autumn, and winter, take place yearly. The woods can grow so thick as to block sunlight from entry, other times the trees disperse into a clearing.
Animals present include the Webspinner, the Silverwyrm, Barkworm, the subterranean Tunnelsinger, the Gardenback, the Heater Bug, the Wood Beetle, the Cleaner Tick, the Grey Wretch, and the Forest Tick. More can be found about these critters here:
> http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Parting_of_the_Ways_(Fortune:_Evolution_Game)#Forests
It is also here that you'll find the images for editing, as we're too close to the previous thread, and many of these currently would be duplicate images.

New players are welcome, but are advised to check out our extensive 1d4chan page, as it details how to play, and, if interested, also details what has gone before and what shenanigans we've gotten up to in the past.
> http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Fortune:_Evolution_Game

A note: The tone of this game veers more towards the scientific, so technobabble is encouraged. What we're looking for is a working ecosystem, rather than Godzilla-esque bio-weapons. To me, even the smallest, most docile creature can be amazing, not just the lions and tigers of the world.

Now that's out of the way, let's get started, forest region AWAY!
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Alright, I'll join in just a second, got to resolve some computer technical issues first.
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Working right now on something, have a return bump.
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Grey Wretches evolve long ass necks in order to better reach garden backs.
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>>19469786
Maybe it's just me, but didn't the wiki say that Gardenbacks don't have much meat on them?
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Known for their large hoods of fur the Silverwyrms cousins the S. Lionwyrm take it to a new extreme. They weigh in at roughly 250 lbs and reach a maximum of 9 feet in length and have detached from their brethren. They prefer to live on the ground as opposed to the trees and as such have over developed their hood to puff themselves up even larger in displays of intimidation and mating displays with the still hoodless females.

They tend to scavenge currently but are beginning to hunt other species, mainly Wretches. And have become the first mammal predators. It is a dangerous and messy affair usually involving constricting and lots of roars and intimidation on both sides. Aside from this they enjoy eating eggs, also of the Wretches.

As always took some liberties with the background of the creature due to little information given. That said, future installments will come with smaller evolutions. I just want to give the wretches some competition.
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>>19469907
There's plenty of info on the wiki, I like it, but don't say there wasn't info, Fortune and the gang put some work into it.
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>>19469907
This is something that would be at the bottom of the food chain in your typical Talislantan ecosystem. Wow, it must really suck living in Talislanta eh?
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>>19470030
Talislanta 4E has the best magic system out of all RPG systems. Prove me wrong.
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A separate line of Wretches develop more powerful limbs, helping them in climbing and jumping. Their forelimbs develop a stronger grip, allowing them to awkwardly climb trees, while their hindlimbs gain a form allowing for powerful jumps. This allows them to reach arboreal creatures before they can get away, as well as better reaching gardenbacks.

>>19469841
Wretches gotta eat something in this land of snakes and bugs.

>>19469982
I doubt Father meant it in any offensive way. Don't worry though, we'll lynch him if he did.
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DONUTS!
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>>19470030
>>19470041
In the words of Red Leader "stay on target"
Though I *am* interested, feel free to continue this little discussion in the foolz archive, or in another thread, though if the latter, link to it for me that I may check it out later.

>>19470124
Are you lost, sir? >>/ck/

>>19470051
Please, no lynching in my name! Actually, no lynching at all, if you please.

For the edification of the players, here be a map, highlighting the area we're playing in, here.
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A branch of cleaner ticks emerge which instead of eating lichen, have more of a taste for carrion. These new bugs assist in breaking down dead creatures. A random mutation changes their coloration from Cleaner Ticks.

>>19470124
... Now I'm craving some.
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>>19470175
Sorry Fortune, we gotta lynch someone. Gotta meet the quota, just be glad it's not you.

The Hopping Wretch further develop hindlimbs more suited for a hopping movement. It becomes their main mode of locomotion. While it sacrifices some speed, there is little need for chasing in the forest, and this new way of movement allows them to conserve precious energy.
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A strand of Webspinner starts developing its silk gland to produce different kinds of silk, along with a more specialised pair of spinnerets.

The main way they use this new, thinner - almost invisible - silk is to lay tripwires all over the entrance of its nest. When an oblivious Barkworm touches these tripwires, the awaiting Webspinner senses the vibrations through its nest and fires a sticky glob of silk at its prey; once trapped, it will finish it off with a series of bites before dragging it inside to devour it.
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>>19470793

The Trapspinner's fangs elongate and strengthen, a single bite is now usually enough to kill a Barkworm.
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>>19469786
No more evolution for the long-necked Wretch until the Gardenback evolves a response.
>>19470935
No more evolution for the Trapspinner until the Barkworm evolves a response.
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>>19471076
...Interesting. Very interesting, I approve.

The Hopping Wretch's horn begins to face forward, the Wretch using it to deliver a killing blow straight out of a jump.
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Tunnelsingers develop additional "fingers" to aid in digging, manipulation of small objects, and gripping insectoid prey.
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>>19469786
>>19471076
The gardenback makes use of the tree trunks and branches surrounding it by evolving a longer split trunk, and guiding its movement by grappling onto its surroundings. Though clumsy, this is faster than its natural movements, and aids it in avoiding Longnecked Wretches.
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>>19471382
Excellent, Long necked wretches are back on the table, though feel free to keep evolving the Gardenbacks.
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No visual change, but some gardenbacks begin to store an incredibly bitter-tasting chemical in their skin. This makes them unappetizing to predators.
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>>19470935
>>19471076
Hmmm, no love for the barkworms I see?
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Some Hopping Wretches take to an arboreal lifestyle, evolving more even limbs. This sub-species of Tree Wretches shrinks massively in size, becoming about the size of a wolf.

>>19471382
>>19471418
So these changes both apply to the main species, there isn't enough here for a split, is there?
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Hey hey Fortune and friends, been outta commission for a few days (only the power of ancient technologies tentatively allows me on at this time), what'd I miss? The wiki looks updated and diversified, is this the first thread since the Roo tits?
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>>19471951
Yep, just one discussion thread in between.
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>>19471889
No split. Love the new treewretch btw.
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>>19471951
>>19471965
This is correct, but also, we don't talk about the Roo tits.
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>>19471965
>>19471983

Vundabar, I'm not really in a position to do updates at the moment but I'm happy I haven't missed anything.

I noticed some wiki things though. Where the Shogun at? Last time I checked we decided not to phase them out. Also I noticed none of the gels have a description, is there an issue with their wiki entries? Lastly a suggestion; the gel-moles are split between burrowers and bottom-dwellers, an offshoot would probably do well to be in the swamps.
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>>19470935
>>19471780
The Barkworm's eyes move up its head, allowing it to detect Webspinners and Trapspinners which have a clean shot on it more easily.

>>19472069
Honestly, the wiki article is mostly a work in progress at the moment, there's some weirdness with species placement and a lot of things don't have descriptions yet. We only really need to forest part for this thread though, so that's fine.
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>>19472196
Derp.
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>>19472196
That's fine, I only ask about the gels specifically because I made entries for them. I imagine that unless they have glaring errors in them and require a bit of editing he'd just need to copy-paste them in.

Unless I'm supposed to I dunno.
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>>19472239
Stooge is correct the wikis are still "in-progress", I just figured you all had waited long enough for part 6.

>>19472210
Hmm, it's good, but perhaps another adaptation before Trapspinners are opened up again.
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>>19472239
Nah, we just haven't copy pasted everything yet, there's a lot of things with descriptions in previous threads that just aren't on the wiki page yet. I'll do it up in a sec, in fact.
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>>19472269
Alright cool, thanks. I'd hold off on the moles though, I don't think my entry accounts for their behavioral changes in the desert.
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>>19472269
Thanks for the wiki updates, Stooge.

I gotta run, Fortunates, perhaps I'll get to more of Fortune and its wiki tonight.
If you guys notice the wiki is lacking feel free to add to it, I've been rather busy this week and haven't been able to spare as much time as I'd like, so any help is much appreciated.
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>>19472210
>>19472267
The Barkworm's eyes further advance, bulging out of its head and freely swiveling about, though the cannot see independently yet. These eyes become specialized for perceiving detail quickly, and the Barkworm uses them to look for Trapspinner's wires, scanning over before stepping.

They legs become thinner and longer, allowing them to navigate around the tripwires without setting them off.
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>>19472486
>>19472750
I don't particularly want to backseat GM, but since Fortune's away I think it's safe to assume that the Trapspinners are available again.
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>>19472750
>>19472777
You're correct (still busy doin' yard work, but may come back every so often during my water breaks).
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>>19471889
I'd say they're splits, even if just minor ones.
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The front limbs of the Long-necked Wretch extend, which give better support and balance.
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>>19473087
Could very well be, we'll see if anyone's interested in evolving the Bitter Gardenback away from the Grappling Gardenback.

A random mutation to the Tree Wretch's colouration proves to be beneficial in an arboreal environment, and their fur spreads further down their legs. They settle at around the size of a large fox or jackal.
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>>19473283
T-Rex monkey? In MY Canadian-wilderness? It's more likely than you think.

The Tree Wretch begins dining on Grappling Gardenbacks, especially as they escape from the longnecked Wretches.

I'd originally ruled the two as the same species but if you guys wanna make a go at turning them into separate lines, go ahead.
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>>19473315
I thought of it as a split, but if that wasn't enough, here's this.

The snouts of the Grappling Gardenbacks split apart higher up. They also being pushing themselves through the branches with their side fins.

Grappling and Bitter now have substantial differences.
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>>19473315
The Grappling Gardenback begins to specialize its split trunks, the lower being a long grappling trunk, while the upper becomes a shorter pushing trunk, used to push itself away from a surface with some force, allowing it to escape with more speed. The pushing trunk develops a hard leather bulb at the end
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>>19473370
>>19473425
...This is awkward. Should they interbreed?
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>>19473437
Nay, good Stooge, they shall be two new breeds! Blimpies, blimpies EVERYWHERE!
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First time I've ever been to /tg/ I am monitoring this thread. So, do the species try to evolve to counter each other?
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>>19473437
Some can, but there'll be some others splitting off. I've got an idea. For these, and the bitter.
This may be too soon to do something again with them, but something to show a little more difference.

The rear fins also are used in pushing the Gardenback through the branches.
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>>19473563
Action, reaction. Some are to better adapt to the environment, occupy a new niche, avoid predation, specialize to a niche, or become a better predator.
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>>19473563
That's the idea, in previous threads, some creatures got all the attention and others just got totally left behind. Hopefully by locking creatures temporarily we can avoid that this time around.

It's a new mechanic, and one that seems to be working as intended for now.
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>>19473563
Sometimes, sometimes it's more general evolutions to fit further into a particular niche, move to a different niche, etc. Basically, anything that makes sense for the creature's role in the system works, as long as it's not too drastic. We're trying to accomplish more of that back and forth adaptation at the moment because it's worked well in the past. Feel free to join in, just read the wiki entries and the thread and you're set.
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>>19473618
Paint skills = bad, but I'd be more than happy to love the bottom of the foodchain creatures. What needs some work (and what are its predators/prey?)
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>>19473235
The elongated tail on the giraffe wretch serves the purpose of balancing the long body. It is tipped with a keratin blade, serving the purpose of protecting the wretch's back. Its axe-like shape also allows the wretch to cut down low branches in order to catch the tree wretch both as prey, and to lower competition for garden backs.
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>>19473631
Your paint skills need not be amazing. Just do a little doodle and you're all set. As for critters unloved, for now, the "back/forth" system seems to be working, so just evolve some critter that looks cool to you.
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>>19473652
The blade is a little soon, for now, it's tail is just longer. Spread it out to two more posts and i'll allow the keratin blade.
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>>19473631
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Parting_of_the_Ways_%28Fortune:_Evolution_Game%29
Just scroll down to the forest section.
The bottom of the food chain would be bark worms, heater bugs and maybe the Wood Beetles, the only ones touched so far in this thread have been the barkworms. The gardenbacks are also basically helpless herbivores, and they already have three species in this thread so you can grab whichever one catches your fancy and play with it.
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The carrion tick now eats by vomiting digestive digestive juices and sucking up the results. Less energy is spent chopping up dead meat.
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Leaping wretchs' bodies start to thin and become more lithe, as bulkier bodies do not lend well to their home. This also allows it an easier time when leaping towards prey.
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A new Wretch species emerges, tentatively dubbed the Less Tree Wretch. They are smaller than their cousins, ranging between the size of a small fox and a domestic cat, and begin nesting between the roots of the Asparagus Tree, protecting them from their larger cousins, though rendering them vulnerable against the S. Lionwyrm. They use their horn to pick away at the roots, gaining a horn that is inclined forward.

Seems the posting issues still aren't resolved.
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>>19473930
And I still messed up in the end.
>Lesser
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So, are gardenbacks aquatic or arboreal?
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>>19474028
Arial. Most of their bodies are full of lighter than air gasses.
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>>19471346
Tunnelsingers' ears become retractable to keep them out of the way when digging. No major visual changes yet.
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Due to a genetic defect, some heater bugs have slightly larger & deeper mouths are able to store more food and water in them, allowing them to gather more food outside of their burrows. Increased gathering capabilities allows more to survive rainy seasons and harsher winters more easily
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Now all I can think of is Shrek, and a hyper inflated frog flying into space. >>19474074
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The Lesser Tree Wretch's 'beek' grows larger, protruding further, but does not gain much mass by developing a slim, blade-like shape. This allows them to dig into the trunks of Asparagus Trees, nesting further up, avoiding Lionwyrms. They will now be known as Woodpecker Wretches. In order to create functional nests without having to seek out huge trees, they shrink further in size, now somewhere between a domestic cat and a large squirrel. They develop a mostly insectivorous diet, occasionally raiding other species' nests for their eggs.

>>19474028
Floating. It's a long story, but they're largely bags of lighter than air gases. Its also the reason they're so helpless, they literally just float around freely, they can barely control their movement and can't naturally build up speed.
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>>19472750
Barkworms' eyes start growing out on stalks as eternal mechanisms within advance their vision. Their frontal "blades" grow long and slender, this allows them not only to balance themselves on tripwires but to stab bad things in the face better as well.
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>>19471418

Cleaner ticks with longer wings are able to latch onto the gardenbacks. They digest bloodsucker lichen and, if their host is clean, will start to eat young plants growing on the gardenbacks.
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>>19474094
The Tunnelsingers' "nose" grows, forming a structure similar to a satellite dish. This serves to amplify sounds and enable better reception of reflected sounds, for use in echolocation. When not in use the dishlike structure contracts to form a narrow, sensitive tube, which aids in navigation while tunnelling.
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>>19474250
Deus asked me to post his picture since it wasn't going through for him.
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>>19474250
This also aids in communication with their own species, does it not? Perhaps this allows them to communicate through their tunnels and burrows?
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>>19470371
Carrion beetles realize a potential food source. They will now dissolve absent tripwires and vacant hovels, then hobble up the proteins from the web. >>19470793
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>>19474207
Lesser Tree Wretches locked until the Silverwyrm or Silver Lion evolves a response.
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A third caste of Heater Bugs evolves from the Kamikaze caste, Sprinklers lose most of their functions and their heating organ, in favour of producing massive quantities of potent acid. They are a vast majority, with a bare handful being guarded along with the queen. They are fed by bulls, and their acid is used to break up difficult to digest materials, such as scavenged bones, the resulting slurry is then eaten by the queen and the various other bugs.

>>19474240
>Cleaner ticks eating gardenback plants
motherofgod.jpg

With this, I'll have to leave for today. Sorry about the massive amount of species that ended up appearing, I promise I'll find ways to make the ones others don't pick up cool. The thread's really looking up, some of these are crazy interesting.
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>>19471346
Tunnelsingers living near the coast and other bodies of water start to develop proto-filtration systems, allowing them to strain a small amount of oxygen from water. This gives them a larger survival chance if their burrows flood with water.
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>>19474515
It's been fun. Shall we continue posting?

Also, bitter gardenbacks start to develop smooth musclebands on the inside of their air bladder, which can swell and contract, allowing them to release some stored gas. While it does lower them in the sky, it acts as an escape mechanism, allowing them quick propulsion.
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>>19474649
Inb4 fart attacks killing off chasing predators.
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>>19474649
Continue posting? Surely, dear Fortunates! Stooge put it well when he said "crazy interesting"

>>19474694
Well I'd hope we wouldn't do that *again* give we've already got a skunk critter in the desert.
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>>19474649
Hmmm...smooth muscle bands develop into small chambered organs, on the inside walls of the air bladder. These ballasts can be inflated with additional gas to allow to slowly rise and sink through the canopy.
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I also think that I'm the only one playing atm...
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>>19475026
It's of no matter, enjoy a little more freedom to do what thou wilt with the creatures in the meantime, though I imagine one of our regulars "nongent" will be around soon.
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>>19474898
do you think this is enough for speciation between bitter and grappling gardenbacks?
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>>19475045
Oh absolutely, their two new species, unless you'd like them to start interbreeding (it's happened before, so if you wanna, go for it!).
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>>19474315
Some of the fingers on the Tunnelsnakes' faces move forward toward their nose, which is starting to see use as their primary sensory organ. Their manipulator digits are now in close proximity with what they use to touch and see via echolocation. The ears further back on their head still see use, but are not relied upon as much. Some fingers remain by the base of the head, to dig wider tunnels with and to hold prey before it is shoved into the mouth.
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>>19475078
nope. I like my little airships in the sky :3

Bitter-ballast gardenbacks gain more rigid tails. This allows gardenbacks to increase the size of their grazing grounds, and allows them to navigate through thicker pockets of woods.
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>>19475148
Oh god, it's just getting freaky now. (I approve, don't misunderstand)

>>19475167
Bitter-ballast Gardenbacks locked until the Longnecked Wretches evolve a response.
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A subspecies of Barkworm appears in darker areas of the forest. They are completely blind, their eyes exist only as remains of past biology. Luckily they eventually develop sensory antennae from their front-most legs.
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Heater bug queens, if killed can throw part of the hive in a frenzy, attacking anything near them that isn't their own class. Heater bugs become much more protectant of their queens, and even more territorial.

>>19474142
Heater bug hives near rivers and the ocean start to develop proto-filters inside their mouth to mill mosses and lichen, as well as sift algae and fine particulates.
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>>19475337
These amphibious heater bugs are now a separate subspecies, and may one day form their own genetic line.
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>>19473235

More aggressive Long-necked wretches have grown to cannibalizing other species of wretches when gardenbacks are scarce.
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Never posted here before, just found this tonight so feel free to correct me if I'm fucking this up too badly. I know you prefer evolution spread out over numerous posts, but..

>>19474228

The barkworm with its new and improved more spindly legs begins to use its tail for balance making it slightly thicker and shorter akin to a tiny tiny kangaroo's. It begins to harden as a result.

Barkworms that are carefully trespassing upon the trapspinner's webs are now able to traverse with a bit more ease due to their increased balance, however not all hope is lost for barkworms born without such a tail. Barkworms that so happen to miss their step and fall unto the ground begin to sort out those able to take the fall from those who are not. Barkworms become slightly more adept at not dying at the loss of a leg.

On an unrelated note to balance and webs, claws begin to develop slightly further and curl slightly at the ends, allowing it to break bits of wood and animals that are only just beginning to decompose into manageable bites as well as rip said bits up with its newly acquired "hooks". This provides a slightly more immediate food source and presumably more protection should the need arise, although the trait itself occurred due to its small mandibles, inadequate for normally larger particles of matter.
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>>19469907
Runts of silverlions tend to feast upon the blind barkworms that stray from the dark woods allowing them to thrive near in clearings near these thick dense areas.
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>>19473882

Leaping wretches, though small, work together in small packs to take down prey much larger than themselves. They become more bonded to each other and feel much more emphatic. If a longnecked wretch tries to make a meal, they can quickly outmaneuver and take one down. Runts and smaller silverlions are now being actively fed upon by packs of leaping wretches.
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>>19475466
Welcome, I hope you enjoy playing the game. It's my first time running a quest so feedback in the discussion threads is appreciated. Even criticism, I mean, hey, can't improve if I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

These are a bunch of little changes, so I'll allow them, but in the future usually each of them should be relegated to a post all their own.
>>19475546
Leaping Wretches now locked until the Long necked Wretch evolves a response. So far the locked critters are:

> Leaping Wretch
> Lesser Tree Wretch
> Bitter-Ballast Gardenbacks
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>>19475611

Just made one, but I don't think it'll work for the unlock.

With the long necks, another supply of food opened to the wretches besides the Gardenbacked Blimpies: Leaves. A stocky herbivorous species of branches off from the main line of Longneck Wretches. They live in small herds and eat to put on weight for the winter season.
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>>19475765
No unlock but you've created a new species. Also, don't forget to bump the Primordial evo thread.
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>>19475787
where's that o.o

also, sorry. I've got nothing for the longneck species...I think I evolved the bitter-ballasts outside of their ability to hunt them xD

I think perhaps a sturdier, more rigid and muscular tail tail would be advantageous to swat at the much smaller prey?
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>>19475897
Primordial Evo Thread: >>19470773
It's run by a guy named Indonesian Gentleman. It's in the tribal stage right now, and I play a tribe known as the Mohu'awane.
Primordial's been around for quite a while, and a LONG ass history. While it's got a slightly different flavour (less science more storytelling/narrative), it is what inspired me to make Fortune, and welll worth a look.
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>>19475897
Well it can start going after silverwyrms instead or start rooting around in the ground for tunnelsingers, that's one option.
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>>19475944
not in the mood for storytelling tonight...I'm....ugh. I think of this more as a co-operative/combative strategy game. I used to play these a lot with my brother, so they have a special place for me...

I like story lines, but I find them more of a vehicle to the actual game. Game wise, it's quite lovely and you've done a great job moderating. I just wish there was a little more variety with starting species. I feel like there only 3 main groups of mammals in the forest, with reptiles and insects owning everything. Are the gardenbacks reptiles? I feel like they should be, since any sort of procreation might be out....
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>>19476035
Well, Fortune's a *weird* world, one that doesn't really conform to Earth taxonomy. Other than these two snakes, the rest of the world is what we'd call reptomammals or gorgonospids.

The Gardenback reproductive system is a strange thing, one that was discussed in an earlier discussion thread, look it up on the archives (linked from the 1d4chan page) if you're interested.

The starting species are a little limited for this reason. Just wait until we get to the ocean and the jungle. Biodiversity up the wazoo, I tell you. Do remember though... we started from three small macroscopic beasties with really retarded names.

We're well above 50 species now, and will probably hit 100 before part 6 is over.
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>>19475988

It's big and has a long neck and only a pair of sturdy legs. It's kinda awkward. If it went after small things it'd spend too much energy being awkward. I can't draw this, but let's say that the plating on its head starts to travel and extend into rigid plates down its neck, in a thick, part bone, part leathery plate. Its population sharply falls as hunting from leaping wretches and Silver Lions increases. The long-necked wretches slowly become more and more armored to protect their exposed necks from the crushing bites of Silver Lions, while their base legs become tougher and more rigid, allowing them to more about more gracefully.
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>>19476127
Meant to say that they're limited for a reason. That reason is that before, these creatures were spread across a single supercontinent, and didn't have to worry about dwindling food supplies as they could follow bigger prey. With split continents, this is no longer an option.
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>>19476154
Maybe it should just BITE BACK and start eating it's agressors, though I imagine the armour would help in this endeavor.
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>>19475897
The may be hitting a dead end. If that becomes the case, I've got something here.

Some of the few remaining base Grey Wretches become smaller pack animals. They work together to bring down larger creatures such as the Silverlion or herbivore wretch. Since they have to do a lot of running for taking down prey, their tails have elongated, becoming a better counterweight.
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>>19476219
Except the base no longer exists, it split into the long necked and tree wretch (which turned into tree and lesser wretch).
I'm afraid you guys are just going to have to be clever here, you've yet to disappoint in this area, I'm sure you'll come up with something.
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>>19475765
i wont give this thing a name yet, as fortune said its a whole new species, so perhaps by the time we are done twisting it it will be ready for a name.
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bobbed tail and neck fur to protect against predators.
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>>19476350
nongent! Good to have you sir! I've never seen Fortune move faster than Primordial, but holy shit, it's happening today. There were a few times I had to bump it just to make sure it didn't 404, if you can believe. Nad went to bed early and the place is a ghost town. >>19470773

As for the name, I'm tempted to call them Falcor (the Luck Dragon). It's so fluffy!
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Longer, more pronounced horn can almost ensure a killing blow if the long-neck can hit the Silver Lion, ensuring lots of meat for it and its family.
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>>19476458
Excellent, one more evolution for these folks and the Leapers and Lesser Tree Wretches will be unlocked.
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>>19476350
Hope you like ticks.
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>>19476350
>>19476506

Cleaner ticks have been known to form small colonies on the shaggy wretches. Now, with it becoming harder to leave the dense shaggy fur of this wretch, attached ticks slowly replace the bloodsucking lichen as a terror of the forest.
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>>19473881

A splinter species of carrion ticks emerges, as over time, some of the carrion ticks started using their digestive vomit as a weapon. First it was only to deter other scavengers from the corpses they had claimed for themselves, but eventually this caustic spit started to serve a role in hunting.

The spitting tick uses it's acid spit to kill or incapacitate small prey, such as carrion ticks and web spinners. Over the generations, their mouth parts have changed to be better suited for spitting. They can spit over 6 times their own body length, allowing the creature to attack it's prey from quite afar.
They also use the spit to defend themselves from predators, by aiming it into their eyes and nostrils.
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>>19476350
I see how those would help in keeping warm for the winter, but protecting against predators I don't get.

>>19476261
Few isolated populations barely clinging to life is the first thing to come to mind. Long neck and jumpers quickly adopted new niches. If not, split off from Tree Wretches. Used an older pick for the unfolded legs. They look like they could still be used for running in that posture.

Still prefer back from the brink though.
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>>19476609
Hmm, interesting, alright, back from the brink it is, though I don't want the longnecked predators getting unloved.
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>>19475148
The side fingers of the Tunnelsnakes become larger, tougher, and stronger. They are used solely for digging. The fingers near the nose remain thinner, as they are still used for fine manipulation as well as digging.
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>>19476620
And I forgot to attach the image again.
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>>19476618
Okay, deleting new pic then!
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>>19476458
...You edited the herbivore pic.
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>>19476654
No there's a longnecked predator as well. The herbivore split off from the carnivorous one.
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>>19476671
Yes, but the stockier long necked ones were the first herbivores. Leaner ones are carnivores.
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>>19476654
I would assume a sturdier platrom to charge at Silver Lions would be advantageous. Either the tail gets heavier and longer to counterbalance 2 legs, or the front legs help with a gallop. Either one is fine.
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>>19476587
Cleaner ticks actually eat bloodsucker lichen, they're helpful, not predatory, despite the name "tick".
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>>19476710
I've just got a thing for continuity is all. The last carnivorous long neck was posted before yours was at >>19473652
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>>19476751
sorry. IGNORE THAT THEN.
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>>19476774
Well, actually that adaptation would suit the Forest Tick just fine, and it certainly hasn't seen any love, not since... oh, Part 2.
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I'm retarded. I should stick with my water beetles....you guys have fun with the mammals. My beetles are just going to swim away from the snakes.

The proto-filters in the heater beetles evolves to filter oxygen from water. They cannot sustain themselves underwater, but hives that break into wet ground can create farms with lichens, mosses, mushrooms, and algae. If a tunnelsnake breaks into a hive of these semi-aquatic beetles, the mushrooms can start spreading along all of the tunnel systems.
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>>19476764
If I upset you or anything, I didn't mean to. It's just a bit of a pet peeve of mine.

>>19473588
The fins of the Gripping Gardenback (to tell this apart from the other Grappling Gardenback) become both longer and stronger, better supporting the weight of the creature instead of as much gasses. They're still buoyant, but not as much as before. They pull themselves along with their trunks and push off with their fins.
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Bumping, in case anyone's forgotten about poor old Fortune. We were going fast at first but seems we've slowed down considerably.
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>>19477526
I fell asleep in my chair. It's 4am here. I actually pulled a few friends from /x/ and /b/ and they posted a few times.

but we all hit the hay :/
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>>19477611
No worries, I've done that a thousand times myself. One last bump before I too must away to the hitting of hay.
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Funny, there was a ton of posts after I left, and they all stopped about an hour ago.

>>19471218
Alright, so I never actually intended to get rid of this one, but are we assuming that it's evolved into the Leeping Wretch?

>>19477263
I propose the names Even-Trunked Grappling Gardenback and Odd-Trunked Grappling Gardenback for now.

>>19477611
>>19477677
Funny, that's what I did last night.
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The Silverwyrm's whiskers become more sensitive, as they use them to sense vibrations by pressing them against a tree. This allows them to quickly find Woodpecker Wretch nests, and to consume them, their eggs, and their hatchlings.
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The Odd-Trunked Gardenback's 'pusher' trunk bcomes a mass of compressed muscle, allowing them to push off from tree trunks by springing it out with a fair deal of force.

They find a secondary use for it when they stumble upon small Asparagus Trees, using the force of the pusher trunk to slowly smash through the top, allowing them to reach the nutritious resin centre.
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>>19478717
I'm not sure if this constitutes Woodpecker Wretches getting unlocked, but I gotta run and Fortune's away, so as a compromise I'll make a couple of changes that aren't a direct reaction but more an adaptation.

The Wretch's speed and agility is useful for an insectivorous lifestyle, but not all of its features are fit for a small prey species. The Woodpecker Wretch lays large soft eggs, which hatch within days, the hatchlings staying within the nest for up to two years. They begin their life hairless, but grow a coat depending upon season - in Winter they are white, camouflaging themselves among the snow that will pile into their nest, while in Summer they are a dark brown or black, retreating into the shadows of the cave. As they age, and leave the nest, their black coat is replaced with a lighter brown, more suited for camouflage against trees, rather than dark nests. Their hair spreads further down their legs.

Again in favour of camouflage they begin their life bald, and their beak slowly grows in over two years. It is situated further down its snout for ease of use, and they also lose the scales and plates that surrounded it in the past, making them lighter as a whole.
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So, what did I miss?
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>>19479531
Quite a bit my friend, but I'll have to let someone else fill you in, I've got grown-up work to do (blargh, no fun).
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>>19479825
Just in case you have enough time to answer, is it alright if I play around with the Woodpecker and Silverwyrm as I see fit for now? I just got back and I've got a few ideas for both, I'll try not to make either too ridiculous, just some interesting adaptations.
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>>19479531
Some interesting stuff, as you can see. Probably not the most interesting stuff yet, as I suspect Fortune's going to spring Asparagus Trees and the Swarm on us later, but for now, some interesting speciation, and too many Wretch and Gardenback species to keep track of.
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>>19479859
it happens hilariously enough I saw a documentary on Madagascar and how a few main species developed rapidly to fill niches as well as things like convergent evolution events
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Ok since bitterbacks propel themselves now, they'll evolve to be more aerodynamic.
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>>19470935
the trapspinner has developed longer legs for enhanced dexterity and mobility.
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>>19480013
Funny, I watched one not too long ago that was about Madagascar. Funny, one of the ideas I have for the Silverwyrm is based partly on a lemur species.

>>19479838
Eh, I'll just do it, no harm done as I see it.

The Woodpecker Wretch becomes largely nocturnal, sleeping inside of its cavity nest. Its small body becomes bushier to allow its small frame to cope with the low temperatures of the forest at night, and its eyes also change structure, becoming more suited for night vision.
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The Silverwyrm's lower feelers develop a hard bump, used for knocking on the surface of wood to detect cavities within, much like an Aye-Aye's finger. They will crawl over trees, knocking with their lower feelers, then using their hearing and sensitive upper feelers for detection. This not only allows them to easily seek out Woodpecker Wretch nests, but also to detect Barkworms and dig for barkworms.
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>>19469907
Silver Lions develop longer and wider ribcages, which help to soften indirect blows. their hides start to thicken into a soft leather.
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>>19473882
Leaping wretches will now start to groom each other to remove any bloodsucking varieties of the wood tick. If they are near water, they will take short baths and play in the water with each other as a form of social bonding.
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The Woodpecker Wretch responds to predation by developing a strange behaviour - they spend much of their time compulsively chipping away at trees, creating countless holes, each of which could be mistaken for a nest. It soon becomes very difficult for predators to track the real nest down, and the Woodpecker Wretches further benefit from this due to the large number of Barkworms they are able to consume while engaged in this activity.
It leads to a number of small changes to further adapt to this lifestyle, including different internal positioning of the brain to protect it from repeated impacts, stronger neck muscles, a sharper beek, and a stronger grip. All of this enables them to be superior woodpeckers, but has little benefits outside of that.

I don't have the authority to block them, but I'll refrain from editing the Silverwyrm and the Woodpecker anymore until the Barkworms respond.
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>>19480677

Some Woodpecker wretches start to hunt in the large burrows of tunnelsingers, using their small, manipulative frame and forward horn to navigate and kill a prey before dragging it to the surface. Their eyes come forward on their face, and start to develop thicker eyelids and longer lashes to protect against grit and wood debris.
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>>19480968

Following this new social activity and to aid nimbly grabbing branches as they travel through the forest, the Leaping Wretches develop longer, more dexterous fingers and a tall grasping palm & thumb.
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>>19481117
Yippie. Tunnelsinger now have an actual predator!

Barkworms color changes considerably. While tripwires and webslingers are still a large threat, the smaller wretches have been gobbling up a large portion of barkworms. Their chitinous body has hardened, and changed to a darker,
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>>19481208

Why is it so damn cute?
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>>19475335
The blind barkworms eyes, thought to be vestigial are actual devolved proto-eyes. They sense dark/light, which keeps them safely secluded in only the darkest of thickets, away from the runt Silverwyrms and Silverlions that started to encroach on their territory.
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>>19481208
fuck...it deleted the last part of my comment. I was going to say that their internal structure has changed, favoring their organs to be located closer together and closer towards the head. amputation of the tail does not mean certain death for these barkworms.
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>>19473652
The long tailed giraffes gain a small lump of keratin, which grows from the end of the tail, used to balance their weight while running, as well as to attract mates.
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>>19481196

Further advances in arboreal travel includes a semi-prehensile tail. Though not able to grasp, it can bend and flex with considerable force; this allows them to start swinging from branches that would otherwise be out of reach and offers a potential saviour from a slip or fall.
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>>19481337
already speciated into these two: an omnivorous (though mainly carnivorous) variety and an herbivore.>>19476350
>>19476458
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>>19481337
The giraffe wretches develop their keratin tipped tails into make shift shovels, used to dig holes into dirt, allowing the wretch to stick its head in so it may look for its prey- the wyrms and the snakes. Stronger wretches can use the shovels to break down tree branches, allowing them to catch prey more easily. This falling of trees contributes to the natural fire cycle of the forested continent. Another strange mutation in the wretches gives them red skin, allowing them to be more easily spotted in the green of the forest. This makes finding mates easier, but also makes it easier for predators to find them, had they any predators to begin with.
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>>19481397
The Leaping Wretch's spike elongates, becoming a much more dangerous weapon. This allows it to injure larger wretch species, and deliver more reliable killing blows. Though this makes it somewhat more top-heavy, it is offset by the creature's agility.
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>>19481479
Forgot the picture...
>>19481519
It's a different breed if you're wondering.
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>>19476601

Archer beetle's acid breaks down and binds to proteins, making it even more effective against thicker muscle tissue and hides. They have been known to occasionally attack wretches, in addition to webspinners and barckworms.
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>>19481525
Well that was weird, it told me I was banned but the ban wasn't in the database, then a minute later it let me post.

>>19481117
I'll assume this is a split off, anyone feel like naming it? Badger Wretches?

>>19476350
Also, how about Bearded Wretch for this one?
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>>19481527
Silverwyrms and silverlions are going to have a feeding frenzy with these things. >>19469907
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>>19481563
I don't think the silverwyrms can take down any Wretch larger than a Leaper at most, but silverlions and other Wretches, oh yes.
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So, we have

-Leaping wretch
-Long-necked wretch
-Woodpecker wretch
-Bearded wretch
-Tunnel wretch
-Digging wretch

sound about right?
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>>19481585
>>19481593
Long-necked in this case, being the aggressive, jousting variety. They can certainly attack the new digging wretch.
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>>19481593
Assuming the old Hopping Wretch >>19471218
is gone, yeah.

In the interest of keeping the names distinct, why not call the Digging Wretch the Red Wretch?

Also, we have

>The Bitter-Ballast Gardenback
>The Odd-Trunked Grappling Gardenback
>The Gripping Gardenback/Even-Trunked Grappling Gardenback
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>>19480552

A splinter species of trap spinners emerges as their ancestors become more active predators. They use their long legs to quickly skitter on the ground and their forelimbs change into long sharp talons they use to kill even bigger prey.

The spar spinners hunt by laying many thin lines of silk across relatively large area, and then hold until something moves over them. This triggers their attack. They will run to the creature who moved over their web and spray it with their sticky silk. Their elevated position allows them greater degree of control and range to their web attacks. They often finish of the victim with their blade arms by impaling it to them.
The attack method of the creature depends on their prey. Smaller things that can't really fight back are simply impaled right away, but more dangerous ones, such as the spitter bugs first get blasted with sticky silk, so that they would be more manageable.
The long blades are also used for defense as well as competition for mates. When the spear spinner feels threatened, it will rise to it's attack position and quickly wave it's forelimbs at the threat. If the threat doesn't back of, it gets blasted with silk, which often can irritate eyes and nostrils. If this doesn't work, the spinner attacks, ferociously stabbing the threat with it's blade arms.
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>>19481632

I thought your next post was a next step in evolution, not specification, but I was wrong. Hopping wretches are still here.

we also have:
-aqueous and non-aqueous heater beetles (both of which include the sprinkler beetle)
-Wood ticks and Flesh ticks
-Carrion and Archer beetles
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>>19481640
A thing on nightmares.

carrion beetles gain more manipulative feelers, able to twirl web silk and stuff it into their mouth.
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you know /tg/, I love how I participated in the first thread that brought on all these future evolution games. Its nice to see how far its come. You guys are awesome.
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>>19481703
yesterday was my first day on /tg/
this game is radical and awesome (save for my horrid paint skills)

You're awesome for helping with this.
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>>19481666
Eh, I'll wait until Fortune confirms it either way before messing with the Hopper.

>>19481731
Nice to see you hung around, bro.

The remaining Webspinner population of the forest is sorely outcompeted as hunters by the newly emerged species. To survive, they must make use of whatever food they can gather more efficiently. They begin wrapping newly caught prey in their silk, helping preserve it for longer. Over time, their silk comes to possess qualities that allow for food to be stored over long periods of time, tightly sealing flesh away. They dig small nests in the ground, covering them in tick layers of web that only they can maneuver around, storing any food they do possess in their nest, sealed and refrigerated by the subterranean temperature. This behaviour is most prominent during Spring, where they will hunt more often and pack away more food than usual, saving it for the winter months, which they will attempt to spend in their nests, completely sealing themselves away from the outside world. They grow large bulges containing additional material for constructing these sealing webs.

The Sarcophagus Spider emerges.
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>>19481899
>Sarchophagus Spinner, rather.
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>>19481899
why do I feel like a poor tunnelsinger is going to find a cache,get stuck in it, and then die?

Also, the Sarcophagus Spider, begin to lay their eggs in a small, separate cache of food. When their brood hatches, it has an immediate food source to nourish it until it eats its way into the outside world.
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>>19474515
both species of heater bugs make larger chambers in their hives, especially their farms, to facilitate the growth of mushrooms, a better food source than the roots of trees. This allows them to burrow deeper into the ground, using sprinkler's acid glands to help break through tough soil and rocks.
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>>19481899
>>19481977

Prolonged periods beneath the surface fade the Sarcophagus Spinner's colours to a dusty beige.
Their eyes also grow to better exploit the minimal light underground.
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The Carrion ticks that stuck to just feeding on dead meat begin to lay more eggs to keep the species alive. The large sheildlike thorax shrinks, making way for four vestigial wings to sprout. What attracts them to a meal is the sweet stench of decay.

Reminder, as these occupy a whole different niche, the original Cleaner Ticks should still be around.
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>>19482182
cleaner ticks are still living on most animals, cleaning bloodsucking lichen from them. Or on Bitter-Ballasts, eating lichen then plant matter.
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I have returned.

Wow! Seems like quite a lot of awesome evolving happened while I was at work!

Let me read through it all and catch up and then I'll get back to you.
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>>19476601

I don't know if this is too drastic development, but fuck it! I am gonna post it anyways.

A splinter species of the spitting tick adopts even more predatory lifestyle. These ambush predators have developed more armor to better protect themselves, and also grown bigger. ( I am imagining the size of chihuahua)

They can shoot their caustic spray over 3 times their body length. This makes them ambush predators, they move in the shadows, stalk their prey and at opportune moment strike, spraying the victim's body with the acidulous fluids that quickly incapacitate even bigger targets. Their darker coloration allows them to move unnoticed through the undergrowth.
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Christ th e insect kingdom of this planet. It's terrifying and inspiring.
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>>19481525
A branch of the leaping wretch evolves webbed fore limbs, allowing them to slow falls slightly leaping from tree to tree.
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>>19483397
DAmmit
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>>19483427
none of this gay flying squirrel bullshit!

Silverwyrms adapt to the variety of changes in the leaping wretch. It becomes more slender, longer, and ans a more muscular tail and body more focused on grasping the tree where they live. With the added muscularity, They are able to spring forwards a small deal, which allows them to snatch leaping wretches while they are in the air.
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>>19483152
You've got some pretty dense reading ahead. I have to say, I was impressed with the Desert game, but we really went all out with diversity in this thread. Only problem is, if we want to revisit Delta continent, we'll need to split it into regions some more.

>>19483281
Sometimes a bit too on the horrifying side.
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The leaping wretch (we need a better name for these guys) develop small claws on the back of their rear limbs, which aid in gripping tree limbs.
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>>19483798
> split delta even more
Sweet mother of Christ... I don't even wanna know what happens when we get to the ocean and jungles, which are already pretty crazy in terms of diversity.
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>>19482551
That's what I thought.

The heads of the dog-sized Pack Wretchs changes slightly. They take on a more slender shape with eyes which face more forward. The claws on of of their fingers become more pronounced.
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>>19483802
Which leaping wretches, the webbed ones, or the prehensile tailed ones?

I propose gliding wretches be the new subspecies?
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>>19483934
Hopping wretches now know as pack wretches?
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>>19483951
Thought they were the same. If they aren't, then the prehensile tailed ones
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>>19483963
>splinter group of wretches evolve webs between fingers to aid in slowing their fall.

To also aid in their fall, a sort of sensitivity to gravity/accelerations. They try to orient themselves to fall on their feet and hands, or to reach for nearby limbs that might slow them.

OP, think we should lock leaping and gliding wretches until even/odd trunked gardenbacks, tunnelsingers, and runt silverlions get love?
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>>19469907
The Lion Wyrm begin to develop their front sensors into thick, poisoned barbs, allowing them to more easily attack prey. Rather than using normal hunting tactics, the Lion Wyrm will stalk its prey quitely, using as little energy as possible, moving exactly like a snake. Then, it will attack its prey, then hide away, waiting for its prey to succumb to the loss of blood and poison in its blood stream. Needing less effort for hunting, the lion wyrms have grown up to twelve feet long, and over three hundred pounds in weight.
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>>19483843
Well, there's some pretty similar creatures that might not evolve away from each other as much as you might want during the thread's duration, and there's a lot anyway, so we're probably going to have to split it in two at least. It might end up being a lot of work after we're done with all the regions, but eh, as long as everyone's having fun.

I'm thinking we should make a list of all the species that are around at the moment, with a link to the last post they were in, to avoid confusion. We probably have enough Wretch split offs for now, they could still be open for speciation, since some are quite similar, but I don't think we need more of them.
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>>19483955
No, these were a split off of the base wretches.
See here:
>>19476618
>>19476609
>>19476219
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>>19484242
I thought base wretches evolved and diverged, the common ancestor becoming a 2 legged -> 4 legged longnecked vareity, and the other branch becoming the small hopping, leaping, burrowing, woodpecking, and gliding varieties.
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Man I feel really bad that as soon as the new thread comes up my real life gets in the way and I disappear leaving the poor Silver Lionwyrms to rot. Promise I'll be more active. That said, time for some evolution.

I added in the real small things people did to the overall creature, so I made note of the expand ribcage and soft leathery areas developing.

The S. Lionwyrms have begun to establish themselves as a solid ambush predator, hunting in solitary and with effectiveness. They tend to swallow pray whole fitting it down its mouth by twisting and breaking its prey not unlike the snake varieties on Earth. That said they tend to have issues with prey moving and squirming while they swallow them, and that is solved with this >>19484184. I noticed that right as I posted, thanks Anon.

The Lionwyrms have also developed to mainly use their grand displays of roaring and puffing up during mating displays. It is quite a sight given how large they tend to get.
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Catching up the past days work I'd say that the Wretches are like a bird variety on earth that has quite a few diverged looks and evolutions but at the base are still the same thing only in a larger scale. I like it, but I think we're good on the Wretches.
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>>19484326
>mfw steamshovel and jousting varieties of long-necked wretches. You're right though. Almost seems like the Galapagos birds with just slightly differing beak structures.
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>>19483802
>>19484291
>>19484184

The leaping wretches, being committed to safety and well being of their packs, will try to rescue poisoned wretches and take them away. Silverlions might not be able to find their prey after they die, or they might be greeted by the rest of the pack, now exhausted from fighting.
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>>19478783
The lower trunk of the garden back becomes akin to that of a spring, allowing it to simply bounce off the head of a predator should it be in danger.
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>>19485057
This seems a little silly, Anon.
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>>19485324

I feel like the woodpecker wretches and any of the long necked wretches get all the delicious trunk meat they want....
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>>19485324
>>19485390

Omnomnomnom...
Still here Fortunates, keep evolving! I'm loving what you're doing with the Wretches, vastly more interesting than how I predicted they'd go. That's what I love about this game. Creative players coming together and doing nothing less than building a world.

I expected Princess Mononoke's Forest Spirits, I got Darwin's finches. FUCK YES, I am super-ecstatic about what you've done with the place.
At this point, though, I wonder what region I should do next? If you'd like to cast your vote or opinion for this, then say so (but please include it as part of an evolution, we're 205/300 here, a post containing nothing but your idea for next region would be a waste of space, I think).

Here we have the labeled regions available. Yes, there are more, but some of them I'm saving for later. Pick one that appears here.
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>>19485390
Man, maybe it's just be abuse it's late here, but I'm not seeing it. Is the trunk still prehensile? How does it coil, is it sorta like the compressing muscle on the upper trunk? If the trunk becomes less agile because of this, foesn't that limit actual control it has over movement?
>>19485057
The woodpeckers certainly don't, they're like insectivore squirrelcats. The leapers do, I guess, and the Longnecked/Red Wretches, but that's it, really. Hunting a floating creature seems like a fairly tenuous process anyway, so I don't imagine they're always successful.

I'm far from against the gardenbacks having defended, but, well, that upper trunk is silly enough and I feel bad for it, but I'd rather we didn't pile extra cartoon physics on. It's not terrible, and I' not asking to retcon it or anything, I just wanna make sure what the repercussions of the change are and hope we don't get increasingly zany with them from here.
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>>19485762
Anon from >>19485324, here. That's exactly what I'm worried about. I mean, we justified the blue of the Roos with ammonia and pH chemistry, but I think we'd need a similarly detailed explanation to let "bouncy springs" fly.
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>>19485762
I think if the lower trunk became prehensile, it would allow it to forage food much easier, and at a safer distance.

>>19485739
My vote is for highlands (unless that's already been done)

The aqueous heater beetles gain a multitude of tiny hairs on their legs, which allow them to float on water without break surface tension.
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The Tunnel Wretch abandons its previous arboreal lifestyle, instead dwelling on the ground, only occasionally climbing trees to escape predators. They begin nesting between the roots of the Asparagus Tree, much like their ancestors, and forage for insects on the ground, however, their main food source is Tunnelsingers, whose burrows they invade to hunt them, occasionally taking abandoned burrows as nests.

They assume a darker colour, due to spending much of their time in the shadows, but not having an entirely subterranean lifestyle, they do not lose pigmentation but rather adapt it for camouflage. Their beak becomes a full axe-head, allowing them to more easily deal with roots and tough soil, and they increase in size to hunt Tunnelsingers efficiently, becoming about the size of a badger. Their sense of hearing becomes poor, leaving them less susceptible to the Tunnelsingers' defenses.

>>19485739
Mmmm, either the Highlands or the Swamp. If we do go Swamp though, we need to add Raibow Blimpies or at least flying insects to it for those poor starving Spearfish.


>>19485845
Yeah, exactly my thoughts. I don't want to complain for the sake of it, but this is one of those things we need some banter over. I feel like one discussion like this per thread is pretty standart for us, it's happened with Spinebacks, Gel Wolves, Roos, etc.

>>19485864
I assumed the trunks were always fully prehensile, but the fact that it assumed a weird shape like that threw me off, and I'm not sure if it's means to always stay in that shape. I mean, the trunks are pretty important to the gardenbacks, and I'm not sure if a defense mechanism is worth losing so much.
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>>19485762
>be abuse was meant to be because
>various other typos
Sorry about that, technical issues and I had to use a small crappy device for that post.
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>>19485739

I'd say Swamps, Jungle or Highlands. I'm trying to figure out how we can get a little bit more diversity strung out from certain things. We have some pretty standard fair creatures, but surprisingly no creatures of paradise or a lot of color in the creatures. Just an observation.

Volcano Island is also an idea, but I assumed that would be a primordial self contained soup that would run post Valley of the Giants because that sounds awesome.

>>19485762

Going to agree with that. I know the R Blimpies got a little silly with their defenses but I cannot legitimately say that seems like a reasonable evolution. That and I can't see that actually helping with how slow the Blimpies are as a species, sure they bounced but still mad slow. I don't know just my two cents.
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>>19486027
>Volcano Island is also an idea, but I assumed that would be a primordial self contained soup that would run post Valley of the Giants because that sounds awesome.
That's how I imagine it, Volcano Island and Pickle Island would be our Madagascar/Australia/Galapagos?distant places with crazy evolution.
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The Woodpecker Wretch, to protect its young, begins to separate litters into twos and threes, keeping them in separate nests some distance away from each other. She will often even relocate their nests after they have settled, carrying them as a cat would a kitten. Due to the decreased time she can spend with each pair of hatchlings, two behavioral changes occur.
The mother, to keep her hatchlings fed, will go out and hunt more often than caring after them, popping into the nests occasionally to lay a clutch of trophic eggs, little more than soft pouches of nutrients. This means that the male also has to take part in the raising of hatchlings, splitting his time between each nest, bringing them live prey and teaching them to hunt and interact normally.
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One more post on heater beatles before I'm going to stop on them for a while. Heater beatles living in or near bodies of water have slowly become more lightweight, losing some of the hard chitinous shell for larger mouths and additional stomachs. This overall reduction of weight also allows them to use their heat generating organs as a motor to propel them through the water. They open their mouths and can gorge on algae,
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The Tunnel Wretch develops stouter limbs, more suited for digging rather than climbing.

Also, the same membrane that protects the Woodpecker's eyes while chipping away at wood protects the Tunneler's eyes while digging. Just something I picked up about real woodpeckers but forgot to add to the wretches, probably because it's a minor non-visual change - they have membranes/secondary eyelids that shut an instant before impact so wood sediment doesn't get into their eyes.
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>>19476458
The Longnecked Wretch develops longer, almost crocodilian jaws, furthering its reach by about a foot.

With this I'll leave you for today, or at least my computer will take some well-deserved downtime, I might browse for maybe half an hour more. Sorry if it's been a bit heavy on the Wretches, but they're turned out pretty interesting, so I don't feel too guilty
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>>19485739
I did not realize this at first, but a stage that the Shaggy Wretch will pass through will actually bear a slight resemblance to the Great Forest Spirit.

A number very of small changes occur in the Shaggy Wretch. They begin to lose their claws, their feet become broader. The armor on their heads begins to recede slightly, and a mutation results in brown fur to become a dominant trait over grey. The brown furred wretches tend to blend into the forest setting better than the greys.
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>>19486390
Oh yeah, popped in to say these guys will need a new name at some point, we already have Longnecks in the Desert.

So, we're in an Asparagus forest, right? So why is the only species that eats the resin cores the Odd-Trunk?
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The trunks and front fins of the Gripping Gardenback become more muscular. They weigh more than before, but they become more reliant on climbing through branches rather than idly floating about.
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>>19486413
I dunno why their helmets recede? Isn't it favorable to have protection, especially against other wretches? I haven't seen any posts diminishing the fact that they duel and compete for mates by ramming each other.
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Alright, I'm getting ever so lost, anyone want to make a list of the critters we've got so far? I'm wanting to make an image-less evo tree to help me keep track, but I can't begin to sort through all of this. :P
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>>19486715
Ramming each other just doesn't sound like a good idea with such a long neck. They'd be likely to break each others necks in displays. Less headbutting, don't need to hunt, and they probably just stomp on things that try to attack them.
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>>19486805
>>19486805


Leaping wretches
Hopping wretches
Red-bellied wretches
Bearded wretches
Horned wretches
Tunneling wretches

Jet beetles
Heater beetles

Cleaner tick
Carrion tick
Archer beetle
Black beast

Forest tick
Flesh tick

Wood beetle

Odd-trunked gardenback
Swinging gardenback
Bitter-balast gardenbacks

Tunnelsinger


Blind barkworm
Needle barkworm (with camo)
Rake-legged barkworm (with camo)

Stunted silver wyrm
Stuned silver lionwyrm
Silver wyrm
Silver lionwyrm

Spar spinner
Trapspinner
Sarcophagus spinner

I BELIEVE that's everything. I don't want to have forgotten anything, but I'm almost certain that's it. Did the tunnelsinger ever speciate?
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>>19487027
Good lord, madams and sirs...

Thanks for that anon, an invisible cookie for you.

So we've gone from 10 species to 29. Alright, good to know, and again, thanks for your help.

Alright, been doing some work on the wiki, but there's a storm heading my way, and I think I'm gonna shut down the PC before it gets here, lest an errant lightning bolt zap my files.
Keep evolving in my absence, Fortunates, and I shall gaze in wonder at your results in the morning.
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The shaggosaurus (that's what I dub these magnificent creatures) develops its horn into a rounded shape, preventing males from puncturing each other when competing by attacking each others most readily available body part, the neck. A sharp horn could easily pierce the wind pipe, or cut the jugular vein and cause a bleed out. The new, rounded horn, still preserves the competition, but holds no danger
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>>19487356
SHIT, forgot pic
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>>19487356
that actually may be counter intuitive to the species, the puncturing of the windpipe would leave the horned males in a position of having better fecundity with the females as they have less competetion.
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>>19487405
My original concern however was neck damage from the impact from charging headbutts causing something to bend wrong and damage the spines of both involved.
And I don't know if this'll have any relation to this, but they are social animals that travel in herds.
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>>19487515
Why not harder skulls to cushion the brain, and thicker spinal columns to cushion their spinal chords?
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>>19487515
it will and it won't males having spikes may become a sexual trait while females lose them as a way to conserve energy. But, a bull losing its horns would leave it horribly understrength if others still had them which would happen leaving it vunerable and easy to be removed from the genepool
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>>19487405
Giraffes actually used to be more like gazzelles, then they got those long necks, and suddenly EVERYONE IS DYING FROM NECK WOUNDS. That's why they have rounded nubs on their heads. Their like horns, except without the puncturing
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>>19487576
true but they also use their necks as a weapon, their courtship ritual is one of severely beating another male with their neck. If you're aiming for a girrafe that's fine but I'm point out things that may happen, you also have something very strange in a long necked animal in a forest given the nature of trees.
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>>19487576
I think that was because the males would accidentally kill the females during mating rituals, or vice versa, ensuring that males without rounded horns, or females who did not rounded horns attractive, would be unable to mate due to death.
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>>19487608

Well, you'd have a point if I had made these guys in the first place, but all I did was make their horns round. In all honesty, I just wanted to make the parallel to the girrafe SLIGTHLY more accurate
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>>19487633
If we're playing genetics. I guess we can have nub horns as a dominant allele and the sharp horns a recessive gene.
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>>19487363
The horns have become even more so for ritualized rather then deadly combat. A need to eat from higher food sources where there is less competition has led to an evolutionary stretch...literally...i intend for this to be the new baseline, but if you want it to be a whole new species, yay for that too.
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>>19480552
trap spinner is dead, long live the glider spider...but call it the trap glider. by carefully creating membranes of web between its legs the trap glider can enable short to medium distance flights from tree to tree, or onto the back of its next victim. no one is safe.
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>>19488616
>hankhillBWAAAAH.gif

Eats from tops of trees, while others eat from the bottom? I know birds have close niches such as one species only east bugs on the tops of branches, one searches the bottom, and another eats from the trunk.
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that looks kinda derpy. Did it get taller to reach higher up?

A supspecies of wood beetle attaches themselves to the now much more mobile swinging gardenbacks. While much more dangerous (since gardenbacks are quite often attacked by larger predators), the wood beetles use the gardenbacks as a mating ground. They start to develop more varied colors, with brighter ones acting as a signal to nearby mates. They segment further into castes, even developing differing color patterns to match them to mates.

also, bump for tonight. Hopefully it doesn't 404.
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>>19484291
silver lionwyrm grows a thicker and more luxerious mane. better mane means better fed, and better mate. During times of duress or after being beaten by a stronger wyrm their mane will fall off.
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>>19488616
Legs or horns, nongent. One adaptation at a time. This too, shall pass, but remember, one at a time, in the future. ONE at a time, and that goes for everyone. I try to be permissive.

Also, PLEASE link/quote when you make an adaptation. Quoting the previous critter helps me keep track of everything.
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>>19488784
Did you know that male hippos bite off the tails of the ones they beat in a fight? You should have the lionwyrm somehow rip off their rival's mane. It wouldn't just fall off of its own accord.
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>>19488854
Whoah whoah whoah whoah, slow down there, man. That's *at least* five new changes there. Possibly more. I like the idea, but their little glowy butts just make them endothermic at the moment. That'd take a *long*-ass time to develop from their current state.

Sorry to step in and rain on your parade, but one post is not enough time for that big a jump.
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Bumping like the FIST OF THE NORTH STAR
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meet the napalm and nitro beetle, evolved form the fire bug. travel loving swarm based colony, no queens here. just eager parents. when attacking a larger creature they will attempt to bore into the flesh and ignite or detonate. while the tribe looses a few, they gain a lot more in terms of food. Napalm beetles when stomped on or crushed ignite. Nitro beetles blow big enough to take a fist sized chunk out of you (like holding an m80)
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>>19489486
Not... quite what I meant when I said 7 stages (i actually meant 7 posts), nongent, but you know what, the baseline heater bugs needed some love and you've explained it very well here. It's canon.
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>>19488627
The trap glider's webbing grows, allowing for longer gliding times and greater control.

By the way, Fortune, I need your verdict on whether >>19471218 are still around.
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>>19489713
I thought I had already informed you that they were, I apologize, guess it was in my head but never got down on paper (or print, as it were).
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>>19489761
Alright, thanks, getting a bit lost with all the Wretch species here. I'll get around to giving them some cool gimmicks before the thread is over.

Longnecked Wretches evolve larger hindlimbs and heftier tails, allowing them to temporarily assume a bipedal stance, leading to the emergence of the Tall Wretch. This allows them to snatch higher altitude gardenbacks before they can escape, and also snatch arboreal animals such as Silverwyrms out of trees.

I'm not sure whether I should make this a new species or the next stage of the Longneck, but there's already a few other quadrupedal Wretches so I'll go ahead and say it's the latter unless anyone objects.
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Poor barkworms have become an almost universal food source now, they need high birthrates to keep up. This causes a minor change in appearance. The creatures now lays thousands of eggs every year, half or more of wich never actually hatch.
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>>19489827
Hey, don't worry, I'm having the same problem, keeping up with all these Wretches. I'm way too hyper/energetic at the moment anyway, so once this manic episode* passes, I'll give the thread a more thorough reading. Give it the attention it deserves.

Also, if it doesn't sound too silly, I'd like to name this guy the Crocowretch. If other Fortunates approve, that is. Perhaps it'll help to differentiate it from some of the other species.
Other names: Snapper
Ooh! Perhaps we could name the Red-Bellied Wretch the "Red Snappah" for an extra-shameless Internet reference!

*No, not an actual manic episode, dear players, just a hyperbole on my part. Though I did have a girlfriend like that once... but this isn't my blog, and I doubt anyone cares about my personal life. Ha ha ha.
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>>19489882
Thanks for giving the Barkworms some love, though which Barkworm species are you referring to? There are a few, and you aren't quoting/linking any previous adaptation in your post, care to specify, friend?
That said, I like this evolution, it's realistic (a common response to predation, of course, *is* an increased birthrate) and in no way feels too "bio-weapon"-y. It's canon, either way.
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Hopping Wretches remain a bipedal, balanced predator. Their forelimbs begin to atrophy from lack of use, while their hindlimbs move forward, distributing their mass more comfortably.
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>>19481527
Red bellied wretches grow padding on their hind legs, which protects them partially from the lion worm's venom.
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>>19488616
dont mind me..just..walkin thru.
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>>19489827
>>19489961

The Crocowretch become more bipedal, adjusting its body to allow it to walk nearly upright. When standing straight, with its legs extended and using its long snout, it is able to reach the tops of many trees and more importantly, to hunt gardenbacks with ease.

Though these adaptations provide the Crocowretch with plentiful food, it faces health issues due to its size and the distance of its extremities from its heart. The Crocowretch needs a massive, powerful heart to circulate blood around its body, however, the stress placed on the organ is so great that it is the sole reason for the Crocowretch's pitiful lifespan, or 8-10 years on average.

This line of four posts is the weirdest thing, if only due to the images. Just shows you how many weird variations we can get from just the one creature.
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Oh, before I leave, can we get a consensus on how big these things are? I mean, Woodpecker Wretches are about the size of a small cat, and I imagine a large Croc might reach 10 or more feet in height, which is pretty ridiculous considering they all evolved from one species.
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Looking at the crocowretch I can't help but feel it needs a longer tail to balance dat upperbody
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>>19490268
Not ridiculous, I mean, look at penguins, then look at peacocks. Or hell, sharks and manta rays are even more closely related and see how much they differ! Whale sharks to devil rays, all the way down to the tiny dogfish (and that's just size). Such diversity is certainly feasible, and welcome!

10 feet sounds right to me.


>>19490276
Well, the power of evolution's in your hands, my good Anon.
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>>19490357
yay!
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I am the terror that flaps in the night, i am...BAT SPIDER.
>>19489713

the trap glider becomes more mobile in the air, now able to truly fly.
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>>19490673
Oh man, it even makes one of the Bat-Symbols in silhouette.
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nitro and napalm beetles, for ease of editing. someone give them some love.
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>>19490863
In a moment


Both the prehensile tailed leaping wretch (which I dub the monkey wretch) and the gliding wretch, both begin to lose their top heavy horns, and the scales on their faces begin to recede.
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>>19490903
FORGOT PIC AGAIN
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>>19490914

Although times of little food are few and far between, Monkey Wretches decide to search for other potential sources of food. One fateful day, a single Monkey Wretch comes across the previously smashed open resin packet of an asparagus tree and discovers the delicious nutrients inside.
News of this spreads quickly and the Wretches strive to find a way to open the resin packets themselves; eventually, they discover the advantage of holding a rock as they pummel away on the packets of trees.
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>>19491481
Hory crap. I was thinking of hyper-intelligent wolves. You went to monkies xD

Wood Beetles start to exclusively mate with their own caste, each caste starts to release their own mixture of chemical pheromones to aid in attracting mates as their 'host' gardenback moves through the woods.>>19488753
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>>19490028
wtf is this thing?

also, as for the 10 foot tall croco-wretch...why are they eating gardenbacks, one of the shortest rungs on the food chain? They used to be designed to take out silverwyrms and silverlions. It seems like you adapted them to nothing. You just wanted something that was upright and had specialized to charging, to just stand up again, even though we still have hopping wretches that are partially upright with stronger hind legs. I just...don't know the reasoning behind giving a hyper-aggressive carnivore the ability to eat a piss-poor amount of meat, when it evolved to combat silverlions and silverwyrms...
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The woodpecker wretch develops a pouch on its front to aid in transportation of eggs
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>>19491647
It makes sense got the same reason the Longnecked Wretch originally made sense - this is a forest, and a lot of the meat is high up in the canopy. It's not just gardenbacks (though with 3 species floating around, being a predator capable of consistently hunting them is rewarding), it's the arboteal wretches , those same silverwyrms you mentioned, which are also arboreal, and any of the tree dwelling insectoids. If anything, being able to reach up and snatch things from branches is more rewarding than being a ground based predator, where it would only have access to silverlions and smaller wretches.
Besides, there's nothing preventing them from going after terrestrial prey, they still walk on the ground and can reach down, and probably even assume a quadrupedal stance. They probably don't have a lot of speed to them, but, well, silverlions are giant snakes, so I can't imagine they're speed demons either.
Anyway, this way it at least doesn't occupy the same niche as the Red Bellied variety, so they actually have some non- superficial differences.
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>>19490028
Why do they stand on their tiptoes?
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I thought the shaggosaurus had become a herbivore?
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>>19492658
Unless someone's mixing them up with something else, they are.

The shaggosauruses which still had shorter legs regain their long tail. They had much more use in defense from predators than the short one had, because it could be used to knock them over to be trampled with their big feet. It also holds more fat reserves for the winter, as well as acting as a counter weight for getting up on their hind legs to reach higher leaves, which begins to intrude on the food supply of the Stilt Shaggosaurus (as I'm now calling it. Stump for this one maybe?).
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>>19492931

The red bellied ones are also herbivores, I thought.

>>19491683 mate, woodpecker wretches are no more. They eventually became the burrowing/tunneling wretches since they found it advantageous to hunt tunnelsingers with their horn. It also kept them from being hunted by the carnivorous longnecks, and the pack-hunting monkey wretches.

>make list that has all the species, sans ancestors
>people still think ancestors are fair game
>I actually put work in reading whether things for evolutions of, or splinters from the population that evolved separately
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The Lionwyrm develops backwards curving fangs, preventing prey from wiggling out from its grip, which is critical since it is an ambush predator, and can hardly chase its prey
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>>19493199
No, just the shaggy ones. Rest of the Wretches are still carnivorous.
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>>19493275
Except a that monkey one. Forgot about it for a moment.
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>>19493289
monkey wretchs are now what used to be the leaping wretches. They're omnivorous.

Also, teeth start to develop to eating sticky resin, grinding, and milling, while still able to chew flesh.
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>>19493199
I checked the thread, red bellies are never stated as herbivorous. Besides, we need a prey animal besides bloats and those insect things


Also, the Shaggosaurus develops are larger, more powerful digestive tract, as it now eats vegetation whole, instead of chewing.
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>>19493199

>mate, woodpecker wretches are no more. They eventually became the burrowing/tunneling wretches since they found it advantageous to hunt tunnelsingers with their horn. It also kept them from being hunted by the carnivorous longnecks, and the pack-hunting monkey wretches.

Where did this happen?

In these two posts they are clearly different species:
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The wings of the carrion ticks become longer, making them capable of flight. They also begin to lay their eggs in fresh animal droppings.

>>19493386
All that bulk. All the the better to stomp on predators with.
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>>19493275
>>19493289
>>19493325
>>19493386
>>19493560

Fucking Hell, I'm even more confused now...

>>19493679
Quote/link your post to the previous adaptation please.
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>>19493560

I'm going with them being different species
The tunnel wretch loses its eyesight as it becomes more accustomed to a subterranean lifestyle
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This is why we need to keep track of species.

>>19490007 - Hopping Wretch - carnivorous
>>19493386 - Stump Shaggosaurus - herbivorous
>>19491683 - Woodpecker Wretch - insectivorous
>>19491481 - Monkey Wretch (I totally made that pun earlier in the thread, in a filename) - omnivorous, eat meat and Asparagus resin
>>19490414 - Crocowretch - carnivorous
>>19490028 - Stilt Shaggosaurus - herbivorous
>>19490025 - Red Bellied Wretch - carnivorous
>>19494015 - Tunnel Wretch - carnivorous, insects and Tunnelsingers
>>19483934 - Pack Wretches - carnivorous

Yeah, we've definitely got more than enough Wretch species going.
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>>19494040
Fuck, I knew I forgot something. If anyone finds the gliding wretch, link the last post it was in. That said, either they need to get some advances that allow actual gliding, or they need to interbreed with the Monkey Wretches and combine into one species.

>>19490673 - Trap Glider
>>19482062 - Sarcophagus Spinner
>>19481640 - Spear Spinner

>>19486565 - Gripping Gardenback
>>19485057 - Odd Trunked Grappling Gardenbacks - debated change
>>19480365 - Bitter Ballast Gardenback
>>19478783 - Odd Trunked Grappling Gardenback, previous change.
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>>19494040
>>19494120
You are a saint, scholar, and gentleman, Stooge. Thank you. A thousand times thank you.

I agree though...
> all Wretch derivatives locked
until further evolution from the other critters.
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>>19493257 - Lionwyrm
>>19480860 - Silverwyrm
>>19476632 - Tunnelsinger
The idea of separate populations of Lionwyrm and Silverwyrm 'runts' somehow got pervasive, but I don't really see evidence of them being speciated, there is evidence that they are separate populations and play a different role in the food chain though?
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>>19475546
>>19481247
>>19484021
Mentioned here. I'm not sure if that really constituted speciation, but if it does then they might as well interbreed into a single variety.

>>19475335 - Blind barkworm - last image post
>>19481247 - Blind barkworm - last text post
>>19489882 - Common? barkworm
The idea that there's two species of barkworms that are not blind barkworms is weirdly pervasive considering I honest to god have no idea where any other split are mentioned. >>19487027 lists them as 'Needle Barkworms' and 'Rake-legged Barkworms'. I ctrl+f'd the thread for 'barkworm', and I think people might be confused because >>19475466 said 'The barkworm with its new and improved more spindly legs' which was a universal adaptation, but sounds like it may refer to a portion of barkworms. Please help me if I'm wrong, I'm utterly stumped here.
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>>19494287
I was just as confused as you are, bro. Mind you, before that, we need to sort out the Gliding Wretch.

The Gliding Wretch originated here.
>>19483397
>>19483427
Now, mind you, it was immediately followed by an adaptation from the Silverwyrm that specifically targeted them - >>19483575
Aaaaand also didn't receive any changes until one that it shared with the Monkey Wretch:
>>19490903
>>19490914

So, as far as I'm concerned, it's not really a separate species at this point, since it's evolving alongside the Monkey Wretch, it might be a slightly separate population at best. We can either leave it open for people to make it a bit different, or we could just breed it back into the Monkey Wretch, either adding the webbed fingers or discarding them.

Now to just do all those nasty bugs. >>19487027 is infinitely helpful for this, but I'm taking it with a pinch of salt, it's mostly accurate but the lack of links and possible inaccuracies really prevent it from being the end all of references.
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>>19494457
True, but we appreciate said Anon's help nonetheless. When Part 7 rolls around, you've probably increased the speed by which it will arrive by several HOURS with this chart of yours. Were I in such a position of authority, I would knight you for this.

As far as "splits" are concerned, a branch-off occurs whenever a player says it happens, I'm not really worrying about whether it taxonomically qualifies as a species, really. If it's different and someone could logically take it down a new route, then it's separate in my book.

Also, I'm thinking of making an email account, just for the use of Fortune, here. Goodness knows I won't be giving out my regular e-mail address, not to 4chan, no siree-bob. Would that be helpful to anyone, or does it strike y'all as a waste o' time?
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Accidentally found another mention of gliding wretches, it's only a minor behavioural change though - >>19484021

Heater Beetles:
>>19490863 - Nitro/Napalm beetles, explained
>>19489486 - here

>>19476907 - Aqueous heater beetle mentioned here
>>19474142 - Originated here?
>>19475337 - and here
>>19475363 - Separated here
Please help me, this one is hellish.

Are Standart Heater Bugs still around?

>>19474515 - Universal third caste added to all Heater species here

Wood Beetles:
Standart Wood Beetles untouched, as far as I can see.
>>19488753 - Unnamed, I think the filename is directly from the wiki. Dotted Beetles?


Ticks:
>>19493679 - Carrion Ticks
>>19476601 - Spitting Tick
>>19483240 - Great Spitter

Cleaner Ticks only mentioned here - >>19474240

Forest Ticks unmentioned, but this change applies to them - >>19476587
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>>19486565
The Swinging Gardenback's body adopts a slimmer form. Unfortunately, it causes them to lose their signature garden pool from their backs. The stone coloring of their bottom has disappeared, allowing them to better camouflage with the tree canopy.
Although they have started to become heavier than air, they drift down gently rather than fall.
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>>19480365
Although the move slowly, Bitterballast Gardenbacks begin to migrate south for the winter. When autumn comes they island-hop down to Alpha Continent, and then return in mid-spring.
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>>19494549
Oh yeah, I more than appreciate his effort. As for the gliding wretch, my concern isn't that it doesn't constitute a species, it's that if it's locked now it'll end Part 6 very similar to Monkey Wretches. Should I add a list of where species are split off, as well? I don't want to take up too many posts with these, but I figure it's something that needs to be done.

I figure as it stands, when we make the wiki entry for Part 7, we'll just mention the runt snakes and gliding wretches as separate populations that may take down a different genetic path over time. We can do the same for the barkworms, it's just that they confuse me because I have 0 idea what the two barkworm variations are. As far as I can find they never actually diverged in the thread.

In fact, to justify this post somewhat, I'll go ahead and fluff out the change in >>19485057
It was a bit controversial at the time it was added and ideally I'd like to talk it over with Cemjjs, but he never got back to us, so eh.

The Grappling Gardenback's lower trunk remains prehensile and continues to be used for gripping branches and trunks, however, its muscle tissue becomes similar to that of the upper trunk. It is compressed differently - when the gardenback is flying the trunk assumed its casual position, coiling into a tight spiral shape. Force is built up, causing it to spring out violently when uncompressed, allowing it to move at lightning fast speeds. Together with the upper 'punching' trunk, this allows them to escape with great speed, rapidly compressing and decompressing its trunks while using them to navigate among the trees, and it can also be used as a whip allowing them to swat jumping Monkey Wretches out of the air.
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>>19485057
>>19495162
The upper trunk of the Grappling Gardenback moves up to the middle of its head, separating entirely from the lower. The lower trunk begins to coil the other way, becoming more useful at pushing away at things that are below the Gardenback.

>>19495097
I support this, it means a short season of extra food for the Oceanic Spearfish, and also we can bring them in at the end of the Highlands game, as a food source that's only around about half a year. This does bring up the issue of how they survive such a long trek though, and it's fairly abrupt, but the idea of the Bitterballasts migrating is good. Not sure if they should enter the Jungles, there would be a lot of competition with Rainbow Blimpies. Either way, Tick cross-contamination! Whoo!
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>>19493257

Including both in the new evolution. However, if you evolve please use the current image and link, the second I didn't notice until Stooge linked it.

That said, we need to get a bit more organized. FortuneHost, I'd start posting the rules in thread again to avoid to much of the mess that Stooge just had to sort out. Anyway, evolving time.

The Silver Lionwyrms for a period had a "runt" version of the greater kind, through years of interbreeding the runts have all but disappeared and lucky for them as their smaller size proved to be a great disadvantage. (Also I agreed with Stooge and found it pointless)

The S. Lionwyrms have developed a new trait as a species though, from the RS Lionwyrms. They begin to form up in prides of 8-10. With a single alpha male leading and smaller beta males supplement him. This is in response in part to some prey running suicide missions and saving their dying, and the RS Lionwryms hunting in packs. The Alpha male, usually signified by a black streak of fur running down their spines tends to poison the prey and if it escapes the beta males will follow, the greater numbers of the secondary hunting group leads to a higher possibility of extra prey from suicide missions and higher successes in general.

I know it looks like for one post but I'm trying to combine everything that has happened into one single post with its explanation. So just a bit of catch up.
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>>19496357
That's a great idea, though this is post 296/300 for autosage. Keep posting here until the thread 404's, but I'm going to start working on the next region now, and it's there that I'll post the rules, along with some new ones (and clarifications) I've added. If there's ever any confusion on the guidelines and/or mechanics of the game, please, don't hesitate to ask! I'm more than happy clearing anything up, I won't bite, I pride myself on trying to make Fortune as newbie-friendly as possible.

As for the next region, which will it be? We had... two votes for the Highlands, one vote for the Jungle and three for the Swamps.

Guess that settles it, Swamps of Alpha Continent here we come!
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>>19494015
The Tunnel Wretch's nose elongates, largely bald with a number of sensitive whiskers on the end. It uses these whiskers and its now increased sense of smell to navigate, having lost its eyesight and incapable of developing more sensitive hearing without being over stressed by the Tunnelsingers' howls.

>>19496586
Need any help with the wiki? I'll go ahead and add the Spearfish descriptions, actually. Should I name the varieties the Oceanic and River species? Also, any idea what the final species list is going to be?
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>>19481247
>>19475335
The Antennae on the blind barkworm grow longer, more numerous and split. This gives them the appearance of twigs covering its frontal legs.
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>>19497020
Whoops, forgot the Wretches were locked. Oh well, it's the last couple of posts anyway.

The Trap Glider evolves a flexible web shooter, allowing it to aim and shoot during flight, though assuming the position it needs to aim causes its flight to falter.
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>>19497446
Vestigal parts in the blind barkworms body and tail are converted to create a sort of anti-camoflague. A butterfly shaped appendage grows and barkworms tend to draw attention to it by flapping their tail back and forth. This way their tail is eaten but their body remains unharmed.
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Oh my god this has continued going?
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>>19497925

You bet your ass it's still going, Anon! This threads in autosage, but feel free to keep evolving until the thread 404's. I will link the next thread either here, or if the thread times out before I get to it, I'll post it on the foolz archive version here, which lets you comment on dead threads.
> http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/19469528

I'll also link the next region on the Wiki, once it's set up. But until then, until the dreaded 404, continue the mad science!
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>>19498004
I mean the series not the thread, I was there for the first two but I guess I was just never online for the any of the other four threads.
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>>19498030
Still going, as you can see. It's probably a bit unrecognizable since the second thread, the Ravesharks are still around though. You should join in once the next thread starts. Also, you should really use http://catalog.neet.tv/tg/ to browse for threads.
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>>19498357
Ok thanks I'll try that out.
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Well, sad to see the runts go....they were the ONLY predators that hunted the blind barkworms, seeing as how barkworks aren't enough of a meal for silverlions, The runts could sustain themselves on them though :/

>>19480365
Bitter-ballasts, in preparation for ritual migrations, start to grow specific varieties of plants on their back, selecting varieties that attract insects to nest and feed on them, allowing each one a small renewable food source during their travels. This also means that they will need to bring BACK varieties of insects and plants from these locations.
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>>19494549
>>19494549
Fortune, I'm going to start posting as Aura. I'm the one who started the other day :P

I made this list, and I'm sorry that it wasn't...perfect. I tried to count every time someone mentioned a sub or splinter series, and every time someone just added to an existing one. I'm sorry for not having it perfect. Stooge is a hero an a saint of the people.
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>>19498392
They were the only ones specifically stated to eat the Blind Barkworms. There's no reason why the Barkworms eaten by the Spinners, Silverwyrms, and Woodpecker Wretches should exclude the blind variety, especially the latter two, since they don't use sight when hunting as much. It would also make sense if they were included among the unnamed insects the Tunnelsinger and Tunnel Wretches ate.

Also, just a note, is the implication that the Gardenbacks feed on the insects during their travels, or that the insects just hitch a ride on the plants? Just a bit confused about the wording there.

>>19498481
Don't worry, bro, mine wasn't perfect either, half of it was me rambling trying to figure stuff out. Besides, if I didn't have yours as a reference I'd still be stuck trying to count everything, and the only thing I think you actually got wrong is the split Barkworms, which I'm still not sure about myself.

On that note, doing it made me wish more people namefagged in these threads because I realized it's much easier to keep track of things that way, since I think we all have a few species we generally focus on a bit (guilty as charged).

Now I actually need to go get some sleep, it's nearly morning here. I feel like my tone's been bossy in some of my posts and I think I just need more sleep.
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>>19498660
Night mate. Well, I believe that gardenbacks are insectivorous, so yes. If they aren't then they eat the additional plants?

Also, to account for the additional requirements for travel, their body lengthens slightly, allowing a deeper and longer pouch for more water, and more plants.
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Popped in to say either I'm too tired to count or we ended up with 30 species.

>>19498772
Well, I'm pretty sure all of the gardenbacks are herbivorous as of the moment, but I actually like the idea of an insectivore blimpie. There's still time to add it to the Bitterbalasts if you want, personally I suggest we wait for now, go with the secondary explanation and eventually give that feature to the Rainbow Blimpies on Alpha Continent.
Alright, night for real now.
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>>19498481
Don't be so down on yourself, mate, your list was very helpful. Any help, great or small, is appreciated.

>>19498930
Gardenbacks are indeed herbviorous. Goodnight, Stooge, and thanks for all *your* help too.

I should say, there's no need to focus on creatures, it's no competition, though I understand we all have our favorites. Namefagging is fine by me, but as long as each post is linked/quoted, it won't be essential.
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>>19490028
still needs a name, but now has longer horns. next evo turns them forward like a ram...sort of. longer horns protect the neck from reward pouncing attacks as well as aid in fights for mates.


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