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Well, here we are Fortunates! Third thread of part 5, this time, we're only doin' desert creatures. Which ones are those? I'll post 'em here along with quick info. If you need or want to know more, there's our lovely little corner of 1d4chan you can check out.
> http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Triumph_of_Spring_(Fortune:_Evolution_Game)

Newcomers are also reccomended to visit the page below, as it details how to play.
> > http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Fortune:_Evolution_Game

For everyone else, let's get going!
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>>19279836
Herbivorous reptomammal, lays eggs. Lives in herds of anywhere from 12-100. About the size of a horse.
More info found on wiki entry:
> http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Triumph_of_Spring_(Fortune:_Evolution_Game)#Chomper.2C_Camleback
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>>19279836
Thumb-sized insect, feeds on blood of animals like a vampire bat. Lives solitary life except during mating season. Lays eggs. Lifespan: 5 Earth years (hereafter abbreviated as "ey").
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>>19279836
Forgot to link to Piranha Fly entry. Derp
> http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Triumph_of_Spring_(Fortune:_Evolution_Game)#Piranha_Fly

Geophage (a creature who eats dirt) that eats with a hole where the tail connects with the body. Made of jelly-like substance consisting of proteins and nutrients, all inside a leathery sack of an outer layer. Reproduces by fission like an amoeba. Can shoot out its potent stomach acids through the two holes that look like nostrils. Has no eyes navigates the world through the use of its "whiskers" which are very sensitive to changes in air-density, allowing it to pick up movement.

More Info:
> http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Triumph_of_Spring_(Fortune:_Evolution_Game)#Desert_Walrus
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Bloodsucking parasitic insect. Size of a fingernail. Eats its fill then sleeps it off for 3-4 days under a rock, then looks for new host.
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>>19280664
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Triumph_of_Spring_(Fortune:_Evolution_Game)#Snow_Tick

FFFFFF- forgot link.
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Well, that's all of the critters, get to it Fortunates, let's see some evolution!
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>>19281040

Bumping.

Give me a tick I'll be working on it right now.
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>>19280152
Desert Walruses develop a longer and hairier snout which enables them to shoot acid further and more easily navigate due to having more whiskers.
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>>19281222
(technically that's two adaptations, but I need the bumps)
Welcome back, Deus! Haven't seen you in a while and missed you the last time you were around these parts.
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>>19280664

The Sand Ticks begins to develop more powerful piercing and grabbing units on its forearms.

The piercing unit serves a dual purpose, the secondary claw is an on off button then when pressed down will drain some blood into the hollowed needle to bring back to the hives. The Tick will also gorge itself on blood before returning as well. Most Sand Ticks are male and serve a Queen(roughly fist sized and buried deep underground) and thus provide her and the offspring with the blood in their needle.

I took some liberties with the Sand Ticks background just to get things rolling.
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>>19281251
Thank you. I'll hold off on altering the walruses for a while then.

Piranha Flies grow antennae to help detect other creatures that they can feed off of.
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>>19281273
That's a LOT of change in a single post (and you've guys have made another hive? What is it with /tg/ and ants, ha ha ha), but again, this thread is in need of bumps.

Try to slow it down in the future.
> Hopes he doesn't sound overbearing or like a jerk.
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>>19281300
No, no it's fine, just letting you know, you don't have to hold off or anything!
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>>19281303

Yes yes I know, as stated within the post. But I figured it was a necessity seeing as there is very little background to the creatures, future installments will come in small dosages as per usual. Besides, I just enjoy adding fluff to creatures.
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>>19281347
By all means, do continue (just don't turn them into some super-organism hive, please, it's been done way too many times in my opinion)

Hope that's not too much to ask.
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I tried to draw it but I'm too tired and not artistic enough. The picture is its basic shape.

The Desert Shogun's tail extends in length, the weigh it enough to allow the walrus to stand hunched over. It often shifts between walking on 2, 4 and 6 legs.
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Can I evolve other creatures to the desert, or do I have to use these?
>>19279946
The hair on the camel back's head thickens to become thick scale-like coverings which protect both from the desert sand, and the parasitic animals which live in the desert.
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>>19281395
Evolve these if you please. I'd love to see these few critters branch out into a zillion things.
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>>19281386

Actually hadn't intended upon it. Different idea. Mostly because I wanted to make a big fucking bug reminiscent of the Human Centipede.

But... That's a long ways off and too much spoiler.
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>>19281428
> Human Centipede
Oh god wat?!
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>>19281453

Not saying another word. And I promise it won't be fetishy. Just... Weird.
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>>19281482
I believe you. I just saved that image a lo-o-o-ong time ago, hoping that one day it'd be useful. I can cross one off the bucket list now, Father. Ha ha ha.
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>>19281393
Is this an acceptable rendition?
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>>19281531
No that's horrifying, appreciate the effort tho. The plan is to get him walking on two legs and eventually become a kangaroo. I'd do it rather than say it usually, but I'm going to bed. G'night.
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>>19281531
Fine by me, thanks Deus.
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>>19281395
The camel can now fly and shoot lasers from its eyes!!!!!!!
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>>19281597
Ha ha ha. Amusing, but try to avoid images for joke creatures so as not to take up the image limit.
It's an image heavy game and we need every one.
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>>19281619
I wasn't joking...
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>>19281273

The Sandticks begin to develop fangs that exceed the limits of their mouths. Since they rely heavily on the Camelbacks to stay alive thy use these fangs to pierce deeper and stay attached longer given their new harder facial plates, a la >>19281395.

Including size as per usual.
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>>19281655
Sand ticks begin growing! They are now the size of a small dog!
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Oh hey Fortune do you want to try playtesting some of your newer ideas from the discussion thread? Like evolutions must wait so many, among others that I can't think of off the top of my head, or do you want to just go with the flow on this one?
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>>19281626
>>19281684

Okay then, you're obviously new. No problem, we're glad to have you.

While there are some evolution games that are fantasy or "comic-book" science, nothing wrong with these games, but this isn't one of them.

For this game we use plausible creatures backed up with a little hard biological and ecological science. Slow, small changes, one at a time, changes one would see in nature, or would be plausible in nature.

These changes don't just *happen* there needs to be an environmental or ecological pressure that affects the change.

Or to put it simply... we're REALLY geeky in here. Feel free to try another one though.
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>>19281722
I think, for now, I'm going with the flow on this one. Feel free to post them as "suggestions" here, if you like, but I won't be using them just yet.
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>>19281582
>>19281596
Here is a second attempt.
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>>19281745

Fine by me. Just figured I'd ask.

I'll also assume that>>19281684 is now retconned and shall wait a bit for some new evolutions from others. Hopefully we can get some new people in here.
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>>19281774
You are correct. Unless they come back with an explanation as to why it happened, then no dice.
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>>19281770

First split off? It would be the Gel- family.

>>19281972

I don't think that will be happening. So... Yeah.

Anyway bed time for me. Final bump from me night all.
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The scimitar crab is a desert dwelling cousin of the spear fishing crab. Like their relatives, the scimitar crab are omnivorous hunting animals, however, they do not fish. Instead, they use the sharpened blades at the top of their arms to effectively cut down prey. They are also terra-cotta colored as opposed to the usual sandy color of the spearfishing crab. Two flaps grow from the side of its head which can retract in order to keep out sand during a wind storm.
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>>19281300
Piranha flies start to develop stinger that inject a rudimentary numbing agent that helps them go undetected by their host.
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>>19282116
Uhhh, man, OP said no please... >>19281421
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Bump. C'mon guys, where'd everybody go?
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Baughagah I woke up after five hours of sleep.

Time for evolution.
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A distinct breed of camelback separates itself from the Scaled Camelback >>19281395

The Fat Camelback is separated by its habit of binging hugely on food whenever it finds vegetation-heavy spots, adapting to store more fat. This makes it awkward and slow, but allows it to travel over longer distances to find these spots.
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>>19283513
The Fat Camel's eating habits allow it to grow in size, giving it a more comfortable distribution of weight.
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>>19283594
The Fat Camelback's uses its neck to guide its body's movement, causing it neck to elongate. The added weight leads to a different relaxed position of the neck.
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>>19283513
>>19283594
>>19283735

Thanks Stooge, you're a lifesaver... or thread saver, I suppose.
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One final bump before ol' Fortune hits the sack.
For reference, to both vets and newbs alike, here's a map of the planet.
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Bump to avoid the dreaded 404. Will check back in the morning, but for now, sleep.
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I love this Evo String of threads. Best one I've seen in my opinion, though granted I've only been here maybe a year.

I lack any artistic skills whatsoever, but would love to contribute bump using this post.
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>>19281395
The nasal passageways of Scaled Camelback start to elongate to lessen moisture loss when breathing.
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>>19281770
I appreciate it.

The Desert Shogun develops stronger legs and longer feet able to support its weight with the help of its tail. It is flexable enough to use it's forefeet to move.
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>>19285033
Wow, thanks, that's very kind of you to say.
If you wish to contribute, I certainly wouldn't mind just text, describing the change and the reasons for the change (and don't be afraid to go all out in regards to detail, in fact, I encourage it!)

I will say this regarding art though,
1) don't feel bad, I'm an art major and have been drawing for the majority of my entire life, and
2) you're probably not quite as bad as you think you are, a quick MSPaint job is really all you need, you don't need to be the next Rembrandt.
(Just don't be the next Jackson Pollock, ha ha ha).

>>19285108
Huh, I didn't even know that (that elongated nostril passages reduce moisture loss). That's something fun about this game, learning some real-life science in the process.
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>>19285301
elongated and convuluted folds in the tissue does it. Large ears also help to fight heat by radiating blood far out to the body. Same with long limbs.
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>>19285301
>2) you're probably not quite as bad as you think you are, a quick MSPaint job is really all you need, you don't need to be the next Rembrandt.
This. Just open your paint and doodle away, that's what I do. Like, what's the worst that could happen, someone dislikes your effort on an anonymous board?
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>>19285421
Huh, all I knew about was long ears, like those of the desert rabbit versus arctic rabbit.
> mfw SCIENCE!
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>>19285460
actually not a rabbit, that would be a hare, which is a seperate species. Also apparently animal planet is airing a mockumentary of what it would be like to have mermaids as a biological species on Earth.
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>>19285490
Hmmm, might be cool. Hey, ecofag, have you ever seen Alien Planet by any chance?
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>>19285540
yes though of course like always the book is substantially better, its a nice little documentary. There's also one about a biologically sound dragon out there somewhere
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>>19285558
Yeah, tried to watch that, but the copy I rented from the video store was so badly scratched that I never got more than five minutes into it.
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>>19285569
its happens though did you at least see the T-rex vs prehistoric dragon fight?
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>>19285277
No picture for this one.

Much like its arctic relatives, the Desert Shogun develops a simplified hydraulic muscle. The "muscle" is strongest in the hind legs and tail. This allows the Shogun (after this I'm going to call it the Sultan Roo if that's cool, I have a theme going) to make bounding hops when traveling quickly. This method has proven energy-efficient and allows the Roo to travel long distances fairly quickly, when not in a hurry, it will usually bend over and move on 4-6 legs to save energy. It can also support its full weight on its tail for short periods to free its legs.
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The some piranha fly's seem to benefit more from hard colored big wings scaring away insectivores than from the speed and maneuverability their plainer cousins retained.
New subspecies: The piranha moth(?)
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What sort of plant life do we have?
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I'm trying to pinpoint where the desert walrus started being called a shogun but I can't find it.
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>>19285892
That was just me, I preferred calling it a desert shogun to desert walrus cuz I made it into a kangaroo.
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>>19285809
Looks good to me, man. In the future, it's assumed approved unless I say otherwise.

>>19285881
Here we go. The misleadingly named Alpine Herb, the Spineroot, and the Bloodsucker Lichen. Form more info on the first two, follow the links to their wiki entries.
> 1d4chan.org/wiki/Triumph_of_Spring_(Fortune:_Evolution_Game)#Alpine_Herb
> 1d4chan.org/wiki/Triumph_of_Spring_(Fortune:_Evolution_Game)#Spineroot

As for the Bloodsucker Lichen, it's wiki entry is blank. Give me five to ten minutes and I'll add ecologyfag's excellent background information for it, both here and on the wiki,
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>>19286021
Decided not to go with salt cacti?
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>>19286049
Despite their name, they are in fact a plant that lives along the banks of freshwater ponds and rivers. The name "cactus" just comes from the fact that they are covered in spikes.
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Gah, sorry about only popping in for three messy doodles earlier, it was pretty hectic but I wanted to throw that out there. Going to do some more now.

You gonna make a new discussion thread since the last one 404'd, Fortune?
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>>19286126
I'm trying to justify some sort of color change for the Roo, hoping I could do it with some sorta salt intake. Trivial thing I know but I think it'd be neater if they weren't all purple.
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>>19286247
Sure, perhaps after this. Although I may choose instead to take a break and just commit fully to updating stuff, so that we can get to part 6.
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>>19286307
Me too, there are all kinds of salts, some guy in an earlier thread mentioned 'em I'll post it along with the Bloodlichen description.
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>>19286307
>>19286320
quartz = black sand
gypsum = white sand
oxide/rust = red/brown sand
ammonia = blue sand

Funny, I always though it was volcanic rocks that caused black sand, but I'm no geologist.
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>>19286480
> AH, at last I found the description! Thanks again to ecologyfag.

This lichen is not a true lichen, rather it is a form of fungal life. Like many members of this is a non vascular plant. Rather than relying on rocks to slowly gain calcium ions and other vital compounds it instead has begun to cling to the mobile rich sources of minerals. Primarily demolishers and aquabeasts.

There are several species of lichen that do this, each a distinct color and feeding on a distinct nutrient from the shells alongside the living tissue rich with water. Vampiric lichen does however live mostly on Rock faces like it's ancestors, providing a source of soil as the ages go by.
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Honestly, we could use this thread to brainstorm for now if anything actually comes up.

Kudos on the thread name, by the way, forgot to mention that.

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A distinct fat camelback population continues to elongate their necks - though this new form is less efficient, it provides a unique advantage in that the newly emerged Longnecked Camelbacks are able to use their longer, more flexible necks to reach back and remove Bloodsucker Lichen, Sand Ticks and Piranha Flies, preserving the moisture that would otherwise be lost to them.
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>>19286933
OOOooohhh, I like it.
The brainstorm sounds like a good idea, with creature descriptions separated from brainstorm talk by dividers (like the way you used "--" just now).

Glad you liked the name, too bad non-English speakers probably won't get it.
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Ammonia eh? I like the idea of a blue kangaroo. Mebee his digestion could become adept at extracting ammonia out of sand and water and whatever else, making his stomach acid essentially liquid ammonia that turns into gas on contact with air, which would be a defensive deterrent. All for the sake of justifying making him blue.

Does this sound somewhat acceptable?
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>>19281655

The Sandticks develop larger pincers on each of their legs to more firmly grasp onto the (Fat) Camelbacks due to some of their more recent evolutions and ability to scrap them off now. They also tend to stay by the creatures rump now to maximize their gain on their stay.

They've also grown a bit in size. The colonies are very reliant on the males bringing back substances to the rest of them and due to a lack of proper storage they tend to just gorge up as much as they possibly can from what is brought home.

I know their are two here but the second one is a set up for most of the future updates so it'll work out.
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>>19286971
Good thing it makes some sense without the pun as well.

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>>19286933


The Longneck develops longer legs to allow its gait to accommodate for the longer neck, this leads to their legs being used to scrape off parasites as well, allowing for the development of small, primitive claws.
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So what kind of desert terrain is DEFINITELY uninhabitable by any hypothetical creature?
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The venom of the piranha moth increases in potency, rather than just stop the irritation of the sucking it tackles a more complex knot in the nerve centre: the brain. The afflicted start hallucinating, this diminishes the chance of being swiped of by routine behavior that isn't caused by irritation since the host thinks it's a blimpie or crazy stuff like that.
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Feel free to make it bluer.
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>>19287241

The SandTicks begin a more slightly more effective means of storing food for their colony. Using spittle, blood and surround sand they begin to form a mound in the sand right above the colony. They then inject their harvested blood into the mound to be later picked up by other workers to feed to the queen and young.

It's crude and prone to be stomped on by passing Sultan Roos and (Fat) Camelbacks but it serves the colony well.
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>>19287702

And forgot picture.
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>>19287204
Absolutely, though all of that should probably occur over about 3 posts. The first blue, the next changing stomach acid, the third a mechanism that turns it into gas.

>>19287558
Oh that's wonderful... genius even. Back and forth, back and forth adaptation and counter-adaptation. It's exactly what I'm looking for.

>>19287638
Oh, you saint, you. Thanks again as always for your stellar work.
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>>19287638
From proud Shogun to a Porn Stache-sporting Kangaroo.

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>>19283735

The Fat Camelback, hereby known as the Binger, continues its nomadic lifestyle, traveling between areas of vegetation which it consumes whole. It stores of fat increase massively, merging the two humps into a single large one, and providing thich layers of fat underneath the skin, making it more difficult for parasites to find spots where they can draw blood.
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>>19287638
it may not be able to hold itself together don't forget this is a creature that's acidic chemistry and that's about it. Ammonia is a base...which means that its going to well...turn to water in essence

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Following the camel backs come the wretches, though they are not as hardy as their prey a few do have an advantagous mutation in the form of over extended vertebrae resulting in an ever so slight sail, this sail and the loss of any remaining fur has allowed them to survive the desert, maintaining their core temperature.
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Water essence? Sounds like symbiote species to me!
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>>19287906
> sadface.jpg
No picture, and you guys keep moving species in. Ah well, it makes sense, so I can't rightly say no, though I was hoping to see some cool radiations from the few critters available, see what you guys came up with when there was less to choose from.
But I'm getting terribly close to complaining, so I'll shut my gob now.

>>19287928
Um... what?

I'm not sure I want too much symbiosis, it tends to get overused as a concept, I think, when it's not *super* common in nature. Yeah it exists, but compared to non-symbiotic beings its practically rare, partly because it makes a species more vulnerable should some major turd come it's partner's way.
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I keep leaving for reasons. Would it be possible to make the Sultan basic in nature?
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>>19288055
I would have no problem with that, if you can come up with a good reason for the beast to do so (some advantage it provides as well as some pressure, either from predators or the environment, that affects it).
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>>19288082
What pressure could it even have.
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>>19287983
I was thinking of suggesting that the Brown Wretches might be alright in the Desert, then I realized they evolved halfway through Part 5 so I never suggested them. They'd probably be developing around this part of the timeline.

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The Binger's body becomes more balanced, and its legs thicken and strengthen considerably, making it significantly more mobile during its long trecks.
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Actually almost all mammals are symbiots with their intestinal bacteria. But without broad interpretations like that, I think that when a creature exits in the desert that produces water it would be strange if it would NOT have a whole bunch of creatures utilizing. Tough maybe if you define a symbiote by anything reliant on that specie you end up with a pretty broad concept
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>>19288140
Creature that develops water, what on Earth are you talking about?
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>>19288209

I think he's talking about how ecofag mentioned that since ammonia is a base and the Gel-Family relies solely on an acidic complex to survive that the combination would essentially make water.

That said a creature that produced water in an arid desert would be something that I'm sure would be sought after by other creatures. Though I highly doubt it would just be symbioses and likely would just end up being hunting.
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>>19287906
>it may not be able to hold itself together don't forget this is a creature that's acidic chemistry and that's about it. Ammonia is a base...which means that its going to well...turn to water in essence
>>19288140
>>19288209
I think there's some misunderstanding of how the whole Gel/Ammonia chemistry's going to work.
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>>19288243
>>19288262
Ah, I missed that last line. Father had it right when he said
> doubt it would just be symbioses and likely would just end up being hunting.
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>>19288262
Yeah my bad I should elaborate I guess. Since A gel anything has a body chemistry that's very acidic taking in compounds like Ammonia is very dangerous, it's like us huffing Arsenic. The ammonia would latch onto the ions and begin to buffer it out and move it's body towards neutral PH which would be very bad for it as that would cause it's cells to have trouble functioning and effectively break down as it becomes more and more basic. Once it hits somewhere around Seven(water's ph) it would die and basically fall apart due to its body chemistry literally being stopped dead in its tracks. So ammonia is not safe for them in fact it's probably one of the few things that can effectively kill it.

It would be terrified of bleach in other words.
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What if the Sultan was Basic but its stomach fluid was still acidic (separated by a thick membrane). It could convert one of the stomach chambers into a water storage area. Basically it'd take mass from its own body and mix it with the acid to create a water gelatin that it would store for times of need.
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>>19288326
So what would happen if it, say, vomited some gel/acid over the ammonia salts? What would that end up producing?
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>>19288334
it would take a complete rewrite of its biochemistry to do that. It'd be like you suddenly being able to convert silicon in place of carbon. It's fundamental to its biology which leaves it in a bind for taking in bases.
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>>19288357
Ok then the walrus is still acidic but the stomach fluid becomes basic.
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>>19288342
fizzy bubbles mostly its like mixing baking soda and vinegar actually they release inert compounds and gases and fiz a lot as they cancel each other out and turn to what amounts to really dirty water.
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I think the best call for the Jelly Roo's would be a separate area to process the ammonia in their new diet. A stomach for the sole usage of creating the "dirty water" that they would sweat out later. It would be a long process to evolve such but I image it could happen.
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>>19288369
Keep in mind it has two stomach chambers, so it could convert one stomach chamber into a water and eventually a basic without it being unable to digest food,
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>>19288409
One of them is used for defense, right? Without predators it could lose the acidity in that one.

The Longneck becomes more mobile and slender, picking away at the abundant parasites. It becomes slightly omnivorous, treating the insectoids, as well as the lichen as a welcome snack when it gets them.
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>>19288425
Yeah, if their are no more objections I think we can begin turning the kangaroo blue (the sole purpose for this evolutionary endeavor)
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>>19288409
the issue is why? There's other safer compounds it could eat to turn blue things like cobalt and copper would tinge it and not interfere with its biology near as badly though I can see it storing some ammonia salts as a way to ensure in an emergency it won't lost all its water releasing small amounts from specialized storage organs to make water and ammonium chloride which it would have to get rid of some how.
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>>19288451
Because where is it going to find and abundance of cobalt and copper to eat?

I plan of starting the evolution off as just a coincidence of eating too much sand and salt.
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>>19288472
copper is easy cobalt not so much especially in a desert. Though like I said it could be a survival mechanism not unlike a camels hump, it just happens to use it to create water so it doesn't move to far out of balance.
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>>19288377
Wait, so, the Roo, with its weird internal makeup could possibly use this dirty water, right? So why not just have it occasionally vomit some acid to obtain water.
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>>19288497
it could though it would never acquire that blue color unless it found a way to store the salts, in theory it could develop a sort of 'calloused' throat that allows it to swallow small amounts which are used to internally create water. The also means that when one dies it leaves behind basically a puddle if it falls where ever there's enough basi compounds.
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>>19288492
Yeah that's what I planned for it to do here >>19288334

>>19288497
I imagine it making very little water, losing most of it and being terribly inefficent. But I dunno.
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>>19288547
through vomiting yeah it would lose a lot. which may explain why it eats and stores salts so that way it can do it in house and then just have to deal with toxic gasses. Also, This leads to a horrible idea for a Gel plague bacteria which use weak bases to infect and live inside gels leaving them slowly turning to water.
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>>19288524
>>19288547
The process could become internal eventually, that just seems like a logical first step for me. It doesn't have to turn blue at the beginning, or it could turn blue because of something unrelated like the above copper suggestion, I just think the idea of it creating water is interesting but needs to be gradual.
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>>19288589
They might need to be toughened but it has some very thick stomach membranes, they might deteriorate and burst in the Roo's old age but they should be fine for most of their lives.
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>>19288607
Ah I see, lead off with that. Yeah that could work.
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>>19288607
agreed hell may be that some older roo at first grow so acidic from losing water they eat their own membranes like a giant ulcer and WHAM puddles everywhere. Slowly they develop an ability to store ammonium and other basic salts to ensure they have a steady water supply to maintain PH balance.
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Ok so start with them making puddles. Eventually drinking puddles leads to an overly basic diet and begins changing the digestive system (cue blue color). Stomach membranes thicken to counter deterioration, the first stomach chamber becomes fully basic (it now spits basic fluid out the nose, same diff I imagine). The second chamber, which is still acidic, is used to make water by mixing basic from the first chamber (we already have a membrane separating the stomachs and preventing fluid from meeting in he middle, bit it probably needs strengthening too). It now stores water in the second chamber (as more acid is produced, more basic is added and more water is consumed to make room).

Is this the gist we're going with and if so what'd I miss?
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>>19287241

The Sand Ticks themselves remain unchanged, they've discovered a solid niche and intend to use it. Despite the Camelbacks brushing them off and eating them now they still manage to drain enough blood due to sheer numbers.

The colony is what has changed the most though.
Inside of the blood mounds they've begun to construct tiny triangles out of the encrusted blood and of course more spittle. This is mostly done to store the blood and keep the mounds structural integrity intact.
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>>19288744
sounds logical enough though they'll have a blue line but hey it's close enough I'd think that and the excess salts may tinge it as well.
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>>19288767
Basically a light blue kangaroo with a dark blue digestive system radiating out?
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>>19288786
yeeep maybe at times turning redder as they're bodies get out of whack. Coloration would be a health indicator really too blue and it's going to love cohesion due to too much ammonia, too red it's going to turn into a giant ulcer and eat itself to bits.
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>>19288815
That just sounds really fuckkin neato. I don't wanna dominate the thread with this, so I think stooge should kick it off since the water puddles were his idea and we'll take it gradual.
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piranha fly's benefit from obscurity, to combat self cleaning hosts they shift to a smaller more camouflaged form.
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>>19288864
Hmm well sadly I cannot do art from here but:

The grey wretches have deviated from the main line. Those few that were equipped with a slight sail have developed a more pronounced one, allowing them to radiate out heat through a blood filled ridge along their back, tissues weaved between vertebrae. They've also started to growing lankier, their center of gravity lowering closer to the ground while their tails extend out to maintain balance.
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I think stooge is out for the moment so I'll just set it off.

>>19285754

Through sheer coincidence the Sultan Roo has discovered an interesting chemical reaction. When its acid hits salt patches, watery mud puddles begin to form. In the desert this is quite an asset and the slurry becomes a staple of its diet.
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The longnecks shrink in size, and become much slimmer and sleaker, losing much of their stores of fat, though their humps remain. They become increasingly mobile, more flexible and capable of cleaning themselves. Members of a herd will sometimes clean other members, searching out parasites on each other's skin. Their insectivorous tendencies increase, as they become essentially omnivorous, and will specifically go after insects given the chance.
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Fortune mind if I do a few diseases for the world?
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>>19288864
>>19289083
Oh yeah, don't worry about me bro, I'm just here to offer ideas. I've got my hands full with my camelbacks anyway. It's not a huge deal at this point anyway, since there's no art changed involved yet, at best we could change its snout structure.
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>>19289187
I just figured since it was your idea you could describe it best, I don't think their will be any external change besdies color.
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The piranha moth revises it's poison again: seeing as longnecks are a very big food source besides bingers the poison causing increased aggression is a very big advantage wich alienates the longneck from the group and makes the rest of the herd to cautious to go near it for grooming.
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>>19289281
That's alright, I'm pretty sure you got the jist of it.

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Longneck herds take to following Sultan Roos when in need of water, and drinking any leftover slurry. Thought this does nothing for their health, it is often advantageous to drinking nothing at all, and they soon begin filtering out some of the harmful substances.
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>>19289083
The high-ammonia diet and lack of natural predators begins diluting the acid of the first stomach chamber, the shift in PH is tough on the stomach lining and it begins to build a resistance.
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>>19289180
Not at all. Knock yourself out, eco!
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> have to step out for a moment
> come back see what you guys did with the roos in my absence
> mfw

You are all amazing, the creativity of the players never ceases to astound me.
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>>19289756
We really wanted them to be blue.
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>>19289816
And from that one thing you guys start discussing acids and bases and work together to build a detailed digestive system, the Sultan Roo (is that what you're calling them now?) is a marvel of collaborative creativity
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>>19289848
Shogun Walrus, Emperor Wolf/Boar, Sultan Roo; now we just need a czar, could probably rename the boars that.
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I have to say, I was worried the desert game would be boring, seems it was unfounded. Walrus pseudoscience and back and forth evolutions with parasites? Yes please.

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The Binger grows increasingly bulky, becoming an almost entirely solitary creature. As they consume all the plant life they can find to support their massive stores of fat, they are unable to move in herds simply because that would result in a shortage of food. Older Bingers, once they can't move as much weight, begin to eat less, slowly losing their humps, at this age they join up into mated pairs travelling together. Bingers are usually large and powerful enough to fight off Wretches, whose horns are stopped by layers of fat, but they spend their lives rife with parasites, and soon after their death their corpses are typically consumed whole by hordes of piranha flies and moths.
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>>19289631
The digestive fluid in the first chamber has been fully converted to basic. While it can now digest food normally, it must cleans the meal in acid before releasing it into the body.

Lo and behold, combining the basic and acid and allowing them to gestate for a while produces life giving water. The digestive tract now radiates a deep blue color from the center of the Sultan.
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>>19285108
While the hardened fur was enough to keep sand out, to protect the camel backs from the spikes produced by the spine root, the armored camel back must rely on old genes, growing plates of thick calcium over its head and the stumps of its legs.
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>>19291398
> it_begins.jpg
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Sooo, anyone in here up for giving the roo its digestive system?

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The Binger's coloration darkens, as the dark fur along its back also creeps down.

I hate to ask you, Fortune, but could you keep the brush effects down in the future when making bases? It looks great, and it generally doesn't get in the way, but it does make it a bit difficult when you're looking to just fill tool something. I had a bad taste in my mouth removing the fur effect from the Binger, but I figured we needed some colour difference between the different Camelback descendants.
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>>19291677
Yeah, sorry about that.I get carried away with detail sometimes.I'll do my best to keep it in check in the future, or at least provide alternate/editable templates.
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>>19291811
Yeah, I was thinking it would be best if there was a solid colour template as well. It's not necessary if you're just making small additions or for the better drawfags among us. The detail's great in pretty much any other case, but it just makes life a bit more difficult for us Paint scrubs sometimes.
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>>19288752
an offshoot of the sand tick. the sand crusher, named so for its large mandibles and bigger frame. Atavism is a bitch, and the crusher demonstrates a more primitive build. fewer leg segments, a bulkier musculature, and a thicker shell. The eyes are also simpler, only able to see into the infrared. fine detail is gone, sensitivity to movement is up. Aggressiveness is way...way...way..up. Crushers primarily eat other ticks and insects. It is not unheard of for a swarm to kill an animal that is unable to defend itself, each one ripping out a chunk of meat and running off with its prize.

Imagine with me, a really pissed off horse shoe crab, stomp-charging towards you. its not very agile. its not even that fast. but fuck. that little dude is mad as hell.
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Bingers develop a yet larger frame, distributing stores of fat more evenly across its body, and gains thicker legs to carry itself with.

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I think that's it for the Bingers, now I have no idea what to do with the Longnecks. I know there's a sensible adaptation in there somewhere to the moths, but I just don't know what it is.
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>>19291398
The armored camels grow a sharpened blade-like horn from their top head piece. This horn allows one armored camels to set off the spike trap prematurely, while another camel cuts the spikes before they retract.
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Man, I regret calling them Bingers now because I mentally pronounce it Bing-ers instead of Binge-ers.
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>>19288975
lament. i brought you this...
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the piranha fly's jaws have overlapped and separated. two internal jaws each flanked by two secondary jaws from the opposite side. six shredding jaws. it is for its gristly purpose, perfect.where it once took a swarm three times the size to strip a creature to the bone, now it takes one a third the size.
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>>19292126
Oh my god... my sides hurt... that last line man, just laughing my ass off.

>>19292431
Cooperation. Spike Camel is credit to team! One question, why do they need to go near the Spineroots at all?

>>19293258
>jesuschristhowhorrifying.omg
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>>19293475
>Red bug things are poisonous
>Eating other offshoots seem like cannibalism (then again, I've eaten monkey brain before... I'm Cambodian if you're wondering)
>Gel walruses don't seem very appetizing
>If it can get to the spineroot, it'll be a good source of food. After all, the spineroot is a producer, so it will have more sugars in it, though there's no actual reason the armor camel can't hunt for food.
>I assumed that the trab only triggers if something is near the spineroot
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>>19293621
Ah, you've clearly thought about it more creatively than I have. Wasn't trying to stop you. Carry on...

Also, they told me the monkey brain thing was just something they made up for the Indiana Jones movie. They lied to me!
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>>19292235
The binger's teeth become broader, especially the incisors in front. In addition their bottom jaw begins to stick out a little more. The teeth allow them to chew on plants with harder fibers and the jaw shape allows for better shoveling of food into their mouth.
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>>19289155
To extend their reach and "comb through" when plucking parasites from their kin, the longneck's average tongue size extends in length.
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Water blight

A bacteria found only in certain moist acidic regions of the world, Water blight is a bacteria that has become skilled in producing simple low ph compounds. These compounds react poorly with gel walrus tissue because of their chemistry. The reason originally for this trait was as it is with the walrus to create a safe growth medium. Preferring a PH of seven the species that cause the disease will release these compounds when exposed to acidic conditions buffering their micro environment and allowing for growth. On a walrus this is a small spot that begins to seemingly melt and shed away. If left unchecked the bacteria will gouge massive wounds in the animal effectively killing it by water.
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>>19295016
Their teeth continue to get bigger and longer to help chew through plants. Their ability to pull off and chew through the spikes of a spineroot flourishes.
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Bone rot:

An often late in life disease for demolishers and their ilk. The onset of bonerot is seemingly harmless, a small greenish splotch of discoloration appears on the armored carapace of the beast. Overtime the splotche grows, the fungi within the patch slowly working its way across the bony armor, converting the calcium and tissue that is present into food by secreting mild acids. These acids soften the bone tissue and allow the mycellium to delve into the bone, where it secretes more acid and proceeds ever deeper, creating 'chinks in the armor' where it's more readily broken through as well as issues internally if left unchecked. The fungal growth will eventually reach the internal organs of the animal causing lesions as the acid eats it from the inside.
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>>19295291
As their teeth reach a good length. They also begin developing larger pockets in their cheeks to hold unchewed plant matter for later. (Similar to the ones brontosauruses had)
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>>19289430
The piranha moth develops small spikes that contain their poison to make them self less attractive to eat then their spikeless cousins, the piranha fly.
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Lung bloat:

An odd disease. This is a parasitic worm found in the roots of many species of bluegrass. This micrometers long creature infests the nasal cavities of camalbacks and howling snakes. Working it's way into the lungs of the creature it tears a small gash in the oxygen rich tissue and burrows into it. Slowly creating a cyst, that it will live in. Reproducing asexually it begins to fill the cyst and creating more cysts. Effectively filling the lung with worms and creating breathing trouble and coughing, releasing small worms back into the world as eggs eventually once the worms reach a critical number. The worms will then burrow below ground and attach to roots, forming cysts to survive till the next host comes around. In most cases this is a non-fatal disease however lethal episodes have been found often such severe cysting that there is no lung left only worm filled tumors.
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Any species that needs a hit on the train?
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>>19295064
Their tongues elongate more and as does the increase of insects in their diet. Using enzymes found in their food sources, the longneck's saliva becomes a bit stickier and makes snatching bugs out of the air a breeze.
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>>19295352
curious. to combat this, every demolisher has become a sentient colony of nano demolisher to make up the whole. they kill the foreign bodies at the microscopic level.
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sand crushers grow in size, they are now about the diameter of a basketball. they feed amost exclusivly on smaller hard shelled creatures and the occasional dead or dieing creature.

with the increase in size so does their fury. their wings are no good for flying, but for short hops to jump on a face and chew it off.
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>>19295553
Only a matter of time now we shall have glorious anteater camels.
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Creatures infected with a piranha moth are less efficient self-cleaners seeing the brightcoloured wings of a piranha moth becomes a stimulus for other parasites to nest in that creature.
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>>19295520
(a voice choked with the buzzzing of a thousand flys) all...of...themmmm. blurghhahahahahaaaaaa*Cough spit*haaa
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Mothblight:

A recent development, spread by the piranha moths, this small(we're talking a speck of dust) mite like creature. These burrow into the flesh of a beast which is has fatty tissue. Once inside it begins to chew the fat...literally. Other mites will joing infesting the beasts skin and creating intense itching sensations As they reproduce they will continue to infest the fat and skin till a seething mass of mites is found on the skin. A few will hitch a ride on the moths that bore then there in the first place riding to another creature. Again, this is a non-fatal disease.
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>>19295611
(Thats the general idea behind it I suppose, though i didn't really think about anteater til you mentioned it)
The longneck's mouth enlogates even more to extend their reach
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Needle worms:

An intestinal parasite that makes its way through the food chain of the shallow coasts. Needle worms Are small creatures which are notable for their bony hooked heads which allow them to dig into the gut tubes of their hosts. Starting in leeches and other bottom feeding creatures they work their way up in the food chain, riding through the various prey and predators lodging themselves in their intestinal(what ever) lining and feeding off the food of their hosts.

Symptoms include malnourishment and weight loss. This is most pronounced in mid level species such as the feather scale.
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should I do more?
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>>19296471
By all means, feel free to, if you wish. These are great, they add a wonderful level of detail to the world.
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>>19293258
the piranha fly has undergone a similiar evolution to the sand crusher. hostile environment has stripped down the creature to the basics. eyes, gone, a hazard to loss from sand storms. antenna, gone, a grappling hazard in combat, long run of intestines, gone, meat doesn't need it. long lives? unneeded. breed quick, die young. spare legs? dont need em. the piranha fly is a blind insect now that hunts by scent and a vague sense of echolocation. yep. alive one day, swarm of bugs that ate your family on the ground and dead for you to eat the next.
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Well, it's time for me to call it a night, keep posting and evolving, Fortunates and I'll see the fruit of your labors in the morning before work.
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>>19290374
And I'm back to finish this off, sorry I went to bed (at 5pm).

The Sultan has taken to using its second stomach chamber exclusively to make and store water for when it needs it (of course it still distributes nutrients dissolved by the basic chamber after cleansing it of basic fluid, essentially mineral and vitamin rich water).

The ammonia was dyed the Sultan a light blue, with a dark blue interior radiating out. However, it's coloration changes with its ammonia levels; to quote ecofag "too blue and it's going to love cohesion due to too much ammonia, too red it's going to turn into a giant ulcer and eat itself to bits."
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>>19295287
I think to counter this the Sultan can simply suck in the infected part of its body and dissolve the disease in the basic fluid of its body. The now watery gel would then be cleansed in the second chamber and be put back.
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>>19298693
Wouldn't that simply bring the disease into it's body, though?
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>>19299510
Do you mean spread it or after it dissolved it and uses it for food?

If you meant the first one then I dunno maybe, depends on how much control we say it has over that I guess.
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>>19299556
I guess that's kind of what I was wondering myself. I don't know chemistry and how'd that affect the pH balance that you and ecologyfag set up.
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A different strain of piranha flies begins to inhabit Bingers and Armoured Camelbacks almost exclusively. They lose the need for their wings, as there is no need for escape and these hosts are not difficult to keep up with, their claws grow more advanced in order to cling to their fur.

Due to the huge number of parasites on these creatures, there is a lot of competition for the Piranha Hoppers, leading to them consuming other insectoids as much as feasting upon their host. To accomplish this they grow in size considerably.

This allows them to find a new host when their current one dies, hopping across the desert, satisfying their appetite with insects while searching for the nearest Camelback.
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>>19299761
Quick query, how big are the hoppers, and on that note, how big are some of the other critters? Some of you have provided size charts and I appreciate that. Now, it's not necessary to do that, don't worry, but if there's a size change, some description for how big they are (eg. they are as big as an American-football*).

* I originally just said "football" but then I realized non-American Fortunates would be thinking of a soccer ball and have a completely different size in mind. I'll try and remember little things like that, so as to be inclusive.

I may just use the nickname "pigskin" in the future in order to differentiate, and because "American-football" is rather tedious to type.

If I just say "football", go ahead and ask which one I mean, though it probably means I slipped up and just meant "pigskin".
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>>19299856
Huh, not sure about that, actually. About the size of a large hornet, I'd say?
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>>19299951
So about the size of a thumb, okay.

If all else fails, just give it a measurement, in either inches/feet (Imperial) or in centimetres/meters (Metric).

(Sorry, did some research and now I'm phrasing everything all academic... pffft, like my 4chan posts would be entered into some encyclopedia.)
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Its actually an issue Sultans wouldn't have to worry about to much they're in an arid climate so, the disease barring artifical introduction wouldn't reach them. However in wetter swampier regions Gels will have to deal with this issue.
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Tremor blight:

A plant disease found in asaparagus trees of the northern mild regions of the planet. Tremor blight is brought about by a species of piranha fly and their larvae. The flies will bore into the young stems and lay eggs. The larvae will hatch and create a Bole, a large woody tumor in the wood. Flies will come and go turning this bole into a sort of hive storing eggs within its woody confines.

The constant movement of the larvae as well the eating of the sap and sap wood will result in a constant slight vibration through the tree. This has a slow and steady decline on the plant killing it over time.
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>>19300194
Actually that gave me an idea for the gel creatures in general. Since threads are going to be broken up by region, we should break up the jellies by region too, and I found a way that makes sense.

In the Arctic Circle and Great Northern Savannah, the walrus became wolves (not coincidentally these are the areas where demolishers and walrus overlap, I can explain this in further detail if requested), leaving the Walrus and Micro-variant in the meadowed plains. The wolves in the Great Northern Savannah are the ones who evolved into the Emperor Boars.

What do y'all think.
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>>19300370
makes sense though I'd say the micros are everywhere really just moving in the background. The only place they may not be is the permafrosted tundra because they'd have trouble moving through the soil.
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>>19300384
I don't think they'd do too well in the desert either, not the lake-dwelling variants anyway.
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>>19300404
True they'd be dealing with the whole water issue though some may dive deep to get to the deep aquifers that would be present. they'd be a bit like reverse sandtrout from dune.
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>>19300434
Haha that does sound pretty cool.
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>>19300370
Hmm, that's not a bad idea.

>>19300434
I'll have to look that up... never really got into Dune. Read the first few chapters, didn't care for it (I know, it's nerd heresy, and I usually have such good taste too.)
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yeah they may actually overtime given microwalrus would slowly travel about anyways help to create the beginnings of oasis' in the desert and slowly bring more and more greenery to it. Sandtrout, did the opposite merely seeking out water and taking it for themselves.
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>>19300529
Once again, my players are geniuses.

Also taking the opportunity to post an editable template for the Sailed Wretches described here: >>19288990
When the Sailed Wretches started getting lower to the ground, offspring with longer tails came to be selected as said tails provided better balance.
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>>19300837
Here at fortune we don't just evolve the fauna, we evolve the forest.
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>>19288752

No picture because I'm not at all and it doesn't really change much anyway.

The Sand Ticks have begun a strange process with their blood triangles, instead of simply letting it sit there and dry out they begin a process of eating and regurgitating the blood, this combined with their own saliva and other bodily enzymes produces a "blood honey" over time. The Sand Ticks use this as a means of food storage and a way to avoid having to make too much contact with other species that tend to eat them now. Instead only a few swarms leave at a time to retrieve blood while the rest mind the blood mound hive and queen.
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>>19300903

*not at home

Man I cannot word today at all.
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The sailed wretch has to look over big empty horizons, the eyes shift to the front of it's head for stereoscopic sight, it can see depth.
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>>19298623
Here's a cheap re-color.

To help it better sense its surroundings the Sultan grows longer, more sensitive wiskers. (Goodbye pornstar hello gentleman)
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>>19301014
Not very visible and I Can't be arsed to get in close for it. But; Some wretches have started to develop more specialized teeth to deal with the Bingers and other Camelbacks fatty tissue, growing longer serrated teeth that are more readily able to cut through the thick tissue.
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>>19301259
> goodbye pornstar, hello gentleman

A captial re-colour, my fine fellow!
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>>19301551
In addition, the Sailed Wretch develops larger, stronger arms for dealing with Camelbacks.
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I tried pronouncing the eyes with some shadows but it sort of looks like make-up. I also added the teeth for you.
I'm getting the hang of this paintbrush thing.
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Oh no! I was ONe update behind! Can someone combine these?
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>>19301726
>>19301756
Derp.

I'll just add your teeth on.
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>>19301779
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Hmm Microwalrus have begun to do a slow migration from deep below ground to the surface in flocks these gel beasts emerge at night into the cool air. This has the benefit of creating small tunel ways to deep below ground forming condensation traps in the process and underground water supplies in small amounts
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I don't want to alarm anyone but... Sultans make Water, micro's burrow in the Earth, Wolves use Wind to see and hunt, and the Boars create explosions of Fire. If we can move the walrus away from asexual reproduction we might just make captain fortune yet.
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Bumb
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>>19302773
ohdeargodthehorror
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>>19292431
Armor backs continue to grow armor, this time on their backs. While it doesn't help with the bone rot, the hardened exoskeleton does help protect against the sailed wretches. That being said, the exo-skeleton doesn't grow on an armor back until early adolescence.
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>>19302773
Anon... you bastard. You magnificent bastard.
Pardon my French, but the motherfucker actually did it.

When an Anon said he wanted to make Captain Planet on Fortune, I said it was probably a no go, unless they found *some* way to justify it scientifically... there's no way they could explain it, but then... goddamn, they fucking did it.

> said Anon's face when
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>>19304936
Ah I thank you, but we have a ways to go yet.
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>>19305042
If you are the same anon... well played, when I said that, I never thought you'd actually try it, much less actually pull it off.

Like I said here, >>19300837, you Fortunates are geniuses, and the creativity you all show just blows me away.
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Hell I didn't realize I'd set that up.

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A population of wretches living out on the more open expanses of the desert have developed a four legged gait similar to a large Felid, Their front claws are still a useful weapon they are however now four legged.
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>>19305143
forgot my damn pic
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>>19305078
I'm considering just giving myself a name at this point.

By the way, when do you plan to add the jellies wiki entries? Are you waiting for the next thread or just need the fact check them or somesuch?
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>>19305362
keep on anoning anon it leaves a mystique hell the only reason why I'm namefagging is because I apparently am a wealth of info and should said info be cited it makes things simpler to Ctrl+F ecologyfag
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>>19305378
Ah yes the mystique is nice. Is that just some random douche or is it OUR random douche? The world may never know.
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>>19295868
The longnecks mouths continue to elongate, with this an alteration in their tongue shape emerged. The end of their tongue develops a bulb-like growth, the added weight smashes into insects better, disorienting them before the voracious insects can chew on their sensitive tongues.
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>>19305362
Waiting for the next thread.

>>19305378
A wealth of information indeed. You've been immensely helpful in giving Fortune the scientific bent I desired for the game.

>>19305401
Had a good laugh at that. Feel free to stay mysterious, Random Douche (by which I of course, mean Our Random Douche).

>>19305420
How weird... and wonderful. I like it.
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>Behavioral change in the microwalrus of the desert. In order to maintain a healthy moisture level they have begun to carve out niches into deep soil where they congregate using their body heat and the naturally cool enviroment to encourage condensation on the stone and rock around them. These 'nests' occur around ten to fifty feet below the top soil. Often only a foot in diameter they are a vital source of moisture in the harsh desert.
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>>19305464
The perk of being able to say stupid shit and have no one know who I am is pretty appealing.

>>19305490
these micro-moles have been unexpectedly significant.
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>>19305464
Thanks, I'd like to see vast change with the camelbacks. I imagine them becoming quite a few vastly different desert reptomammals.

>>19305420
The longnecks bulblike tongue enlarges and the sticky saliva commonly collects and hardens the tip. Combined with a tiny evolved alteration in the musculature of their mouth this allows the camelbacks to shoot out their tongue and crunch up insects easily.
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>>19305588
You'll give into the temptation to namefag as Our Random Douche soon enough.

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>>19305851


Longnecks begin to gather in larger herds, causing them to take a hit to their stores of fat. Without the food needed to maintain their lifestyle, they lose their humps, but with larger groups, they become more social. With this, and their increased numbers, they are able to subdue aggressive members of the herd under the influence of the Piranha Moth's venom, and drive the insect away.

The discoloration from their humps remains in the form of stripes.
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>>19305882
I could already be a namefag for all you know.
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The Longnecks develop larger front claws for digging up Sand Tick nests and eating those within.
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BORING
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>>19306214
Then don't play.
Let those who are enjoying themselves do so. There is no need to intrude on other's fun when no harm comes of it. It's a philosophy I live by.

I can't stand Love Can Bloom, but do I go there and whine about it? No, I just don't go to those threads, I let those who enjoy it do so without me barging in and telling them to "stop having fun".

Not like sage does anything, anyway. So I bump, that others who may enjoy this can see it and join if they wish (but if I'm honest, a portion of it is just to spite your pettiness). If you want to participate and enjoy yourself you're welcome. Should you wish to be antagonistic, I ask you to take your rage elsewhere.
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>>19306419
Apparently he didn't sage (thank you fourchan extensions).
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>>19306604
> checks own extension
Huh, fancy that. Silly troll, can't even impotently rage correctly. Ha ha ha.
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>>19306764
Or do you mean...
*puts on sunglasses*
Seal with it
(Not the same anon...)
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>>19306604
Looks like he saged from here. Says mailto:sage on mouseover and my extension put a little sage leaf right next to.
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>>19306038
The Longbecks develop a taste for the 'blood honey' produced by Sand Ticks.
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>>19306830
> http://yeahbutton.com/
This is for you.

>>19306884
Seems when I refreshed my "sage count" went to one, here, as well. Oh well.
> haters_gonna_hate.gif

>>19306892
Anteater bears? I like it.
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>>19306764
keeping this to a mimimum the best way to kill a troll in these threads is to bury it under a pile of your own productivity. their goal is always to eat threads with inflamatory posts and generate responses thus shortening the length of the game. the beauty of that is...its futile. just do "part 2, part 3" and its indefinite thus completely castrating their capability. i post this here realizing it also diminishes the thread count, but the content of it is worthy. i also piggyback with this!
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the piranha fly is now stripped to the bare essentials, wings are gone. down to a three legged hopping configuration, its skull has split down the center revealing yet another facet to its gaping maw. the sense of smell minimized, echolocation is up significantly. eat-breed-eat-breed.
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>>19295609
the sand crusher is quite possibly the most hateful creature on the face of fortune. Its "shell" if you can call it that, is actually a collection of sand bonded to their body by a specialized excretion. They build large "hammers" on their forlimbs to crush the bodies of their predators and prey alike. Their steady angry scuttle forward is the stuff of terror. They are now about the size of a small dog... and they have all the compassion of an ethnic cleansing in 90's Serbia.
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>>19307300
Where did its limbs go? They need to be somewhere on there. No species ever loses their limbs truely. Even snakes.
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>>19307300
Hmm, I hadn't thought of it like that. I just figured bumping it was the right procedure. I'll remember this for the future. Ignore it, post away. Got it.

Love the creature, btw.
> jesuschristhowhorrifying.jpg


>>19307557
Love the adaptations, but that's probably a few too many changes for one post. It's all approved, just remember that in the future. Thanks for the new art too!
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>>19307762
rear leg is a fusion of both, the wings have internalized into part of the shell, the former muscles acting as accessories to pull the many jaws open and closed as fast as the wings used to flap. suitable?
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>>19307762
True, but said missing limbs aren't very noticable on snakes. I imagine the screamer's missing legs are just small vestigial bumps on the side.
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>>19307796
very that also means that rear leg is strong as hell. It's a hopper I'd imagine.
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>>19307557
This needs a 'how about I wreck your shit caption'
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>>19307927
I can do that, after autosage kicks in, so as not to take up anymore of the image limit.
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>>19308339
I'd say you could justify making another thread after this one.
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>>19308589
Yeah, originally I was just going to do one thread for the desert and then start working on number six, but, hey, people are enjoying it, no need to cut and run now.
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The quadrepedal wretches have become more suited to their shape, their snouts becoming longer and their bony helms receding to promote a lighter frame and better aerodynamics.
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>>19309954
Excellent. I like how far away from their roots you're taking them. So far you've all done an excellent job in giving this world variety.
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>>19307927
>>19311516

Bumping again, still have about 50 or so before autosage. Get crackin', Fortunates!
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Piranha Hoppers nearly double in lenght, as this happens, their two back legs merge into a single more powerful limb, allowing them to hop despite the added weight. Their front claws become more adapted for combat, rather than movement.
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The Binger grows increasingly massive, and their molars begin to grow increasingly quickly without a limit to their size, forming small tusks in adolescence.
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>>19312288 >>19312411
Excellent, thanks for keeping this thread bumped.
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>>19312411
Wait, doesn't fat retain heat, ya know blubber? How would the binger not overheat with all that flab?
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>>19312789
I'd assume that most of their body fat is still in a huge hump on their back, and the remainders are mostly in clusters rather than distributed evenly. The rest is camel magic.

If we want to be out there, maybe all the parasites on them help them lose heat, somehow?
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Bingers dealing with the heating problem are now only active at night, coupled with the fact they also will form ruts in the ground to lay in during the day it allows for them to stay cool.
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>>19312789
>>19312870
>>19313340

Excellent discussion, Fortunates. Keep it up.
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>>19313340
wtf's a rut?
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>>19313680
A depression in the ground.
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>>19313680
A shallow pit think like a dish in the ground that you can lay in. chickens will do it for dust baths to keep mites off as well as to keep cool. A large animal like the Binger would do it for a number of reasons
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>>19313692
>>19313705
oh, thx.
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Bingers, unable to develop larger eyes without their eyes becoming even more vulnerable to parasites, instead develop more powerful senses of smell and hearing. During mating season, they will often let out loud bellows and leave trails of scent making it easier for potential mates to find them.

Piranha Hoppers move away from traditional Piranha Fly mating habits, instead timing their mating season to coincide with those of the Bingers. The Hoppers, both newborn and old, use the bellows and scent to seek out Bingers.
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>>19313767
Forgot to mention, these adaptation are because of the Bingers' nocturnal lifestyle, as their sense of sight proved unsatisfactory during the nighttime.
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>>19313767
>>19313778
Usually I'll ask that you stick to one critter-per-post, but these two are closely related enough in this instance that I'm okay with it.
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>>19313789
Yeah, I was hoping it would be okay since they have a fairly direct relationship and the changes are non-visual.
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>>19313797
And it is, don't worry.
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Hey Fortunates, some cat named Spec is starting out his own evo game, maybe you can head over there and lend some of your know-how to his burgeoning world (I think it's called New Nut... or something).
>>19311902
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>>19301259
This may be a bit of a stretch and forgive me if it is.

Being that the body of a gel creature is mostly uniform and semi-solid, they are actually quite sensitive to vibrations in the Earth. This has never really come up in the past and as a result gone unnoticed. However, the Sultans have been feeling slight vibrations as of late and, with some instinct telling them they are distantly related, have begun following the tremors across the desert. The fact that they usually lead to water has only reinforced that it seems like a pretty good idea.


(They are following burrowing micro-walrus (can we call the micro-moles?))
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>>19313869
That's a great idea, and you justified/explained it very well. It makes sense, and seems like a natural development from their adaptation you gave them as well as reacting to, and referencing, what's gone before.

Feel free to call them micro-moles or micro-walruses. Both names are fine and dandy by me.
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>>19313902
Thanks I needed to justify giving them hands.

>>19313869
The Sultans have begun digging for Micro nests stated here >>19305490 when they sense a concentration of vibrations in search of moisture. To help them dig they have developed hands (and fingers). While they rarely find the nests, the digging does help the Micros when they move to the surface.
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The mole-gel populations attacked by the sultans use the new shallow pits to their advantage, boring holes into the surface of the indent allowing air to flow into their hollows, this allows for microbial growth to occur and thus more food to be present as well as increase the rate of condensation. These are small holes however merely a few inches across shored up by using their own protoplasmic mass.
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>>19314457
Oh god I was trying to help.
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>>19313767
The gland that produces the scent evolves to grow bigger, stronger, and muskier over time. This allows for longer range "communication" of food sources and mating needs. As a plus the smell is a bit unappealing to carnivorous reptomammaloids, especially during mating seasons when the glands go into overdrive.
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>>19314656
We're going to have to be careful that the binger doesn't turn into a joke "fart camel" creature...
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The sail wretched become more and more accomplished predators. The front limbs become stronger and more appropriate for sprinting while still retaining the claws.
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>>19314656
Bingers alter their diet, tending more toward different plants and minerals. Overtime the buildup of these cause chemical shifts in the makeup of the gland stench causing it to have a pesticidal effect in the oldest, alpha bingers. One alpha binger commonly has dozens of others following it around to take advantage of the scent.
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>>19314671
That said, I'm cool with them being giant Desert Skunks.

>>19314878
Younger Bingers, having to eat the leftovers of the alphas, become smaller in size, with fewer fatty deposits and a less noticeable scent. Some young Bingers remain solitary, retaining their size, but missing out on the benefits of the pesticidal effect and the increased efficiency thereof. These solitary Bingers have a chance to develop their own following over time, if they survive long enough to begin producing a potent stench.
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>Bueno
Bachelor herds awaaaaaaayy.

Also:
some varieties of plants are lucky enough to adapt long deep taproots that reach into the water cysts of the gel-moles, their long roots provide a delicious snack for them but, they are able to ensure a steady supply of water in this arid land.
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>>19306892

>develop a taste for the 'blood honey'
>blood honey produced by their own blood
>ohgod.jpg

>>19300903

The Sand Ticks have developed an entire living on the production of the Blood Honey. The sticky red liquid is high in water content and other essentials for a creature to live in the hot desert. The Ticks defend their homes with mass aggression and as such have developed their arm stinger to be larger, pointier and meaner. Their diet high in blood has begun to change their own color scheme and their bodies begin producing Carminic Acid (the primary ingredient in red dyes).

They tend to swarm quickly and with efficiently, avoiding the rump and head instead aiming for the reproductive organs where they siphon blood and then leave before being smashed, eaten or killed off in some other way.

Their homes have grown taller to accommodate the massive storage they do and have become Blood Cacti, not organic but essentially like a Bees Nest.

>that feel when making another prey species
>okay.jpg
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>>19315155
>Cannibal anteaters
Not what I expected from Fortune's desert. I do suspect we're starting to run out of steam on this particular region though.

>>19314878
>>19315017
Over time, the Binger's herd dynamics become gender-dependent - males are almost always solitary, while females tend to follow larger alphas in a small herd. Accordingly, females become significantly smaller, with smaller stores of fat. Males who survive into old age but do not form a harem will typically bond with a singly partner, as Bingers did before the recent developments.
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>>19315155
> blood honey
> aiming for the reproductive organs
> Blood Cacti

Buddy, you didn't make a prey species, you made nightmare fuel.
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>>19315263

I feel like it sort of is an ignorance is bliss type of deal. They're just big dumb animals, and that shit is delicious.

>>19315274

In the world that is Fortune, even the bugs will make you cry. Harmless little blood sucking bugs.
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>>19315308
I still think the proboscis scorpion holds the prize for Fortune Scariest Horror Insect.

And yeah, I'd rather think the Longnecks don't realise they're committing an atrocity, because the alternative is that their newfound taste for blood leads to vampire anteaters.

Anyway, it won't get truly freaky until some desert civilization begins cultivating Sand Ticks for their blood honey. Probably letting them feed on their own herds.
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>>19315263
Yeah, I 'd be okay with moving on to another region. We could even still leave this one open. I'm running out of ideas for most of the creatures. But if anyone has some vast changes to make that would get the inspiration ball rolling again, thats fine too. just my two cents.
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>>19315410

Those things truly are frightening. I think the bug life has taken the cake for land creatures that will haunt your dreams.

Also I made them for that sole purpose in the future, this particular strain at least. They have quite a few uses; dyes, food, warding off other animals that will kill you. If anything they can fade into the background now.
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>>19315440
That's pretty much what I am gonna do with this. Keep evolving 'until 404, then I'll get to working on Part 6.
There might be a discussion thread, but it'll be just for you guys, and I'll likely be largely absent working on the illustrations and the wiki.

>>19315509
That's not a bad idea, I'll consider it.
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Longnecks have become more of a scavenger species is both requires insight and problem solving skills and gives them the right meaty proteins to develop larger brains. Can't be that big of a jump, they already interact with eachother in complecated patterns like grooming.
Anyway: toolmaking!
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>>19315980
Hope those tools don't require thumbs.
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Haha can you imagine? That's like a snake species developing an easy way to produce footwear.
No, they have their tong they can figure something out.
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>>19315980
where's my Idontthinksotim?

Honeybacks are actually pretty stable anon, you managed to create a niche that barring something horrific won't change much for any period of time. Welcome to the rare balance that is ecological relationships. The species are not stagnate they're merely comfortable in this state they are happy as a clam, its why we have things like lions and woodchucks and sparrows because species don't need to have all the tools in the world or the biggest brain just a nice place in the biosphere that happens to work for them.
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>>19317760
>>19315980
Given their role, I could see longbackhoneynecks developing roughly hyena-like intelligence. I could see the armoured camels being about the same since they've exhibited teamwork and some innovation. Nothing like tool use yet though.

Anyway, I'd say most of the animals in this thread fit into their individual niche pretty well at this point. If the thread's still around tomorrow I might mess around with the Sailed Wretch, but I'm pretty much fine with where everything is now. Given that if we do threads by region we'll probably revisit the desert eventually anyway, I think I'm just going to stop here for now.
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>>19317760
>>19318345
You guys have a pretty good idea of how this works, didn't even need to say anything. Ha ha ha.

I think I'm going to call it, here, 292/300, so it's unlikely there will be any more development here.

Stooge, feel free to post that last Sailed Wretch evo, but as for everything else, I think we're done here.

Great game everyone, thanks for playing. I will get to working on Part 6 soon. It may be a day or two, though. In the meantime, I'll consider setting up a discussion thread for you all later.
Don't forget to upvote us on suptg!
> http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Fortune%20Evolution
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Alright, from now until 404, this is now discussion thread, feel free to ask me question about the game, and to talk about what you want or predict for part 6.

and here we... GO
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>>19319495
Is part 6 going to be a region or the whole?
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>>19319604
Region by region, because now, the continents have split apart, and the creatures will likely be developing on their own.
For the most part, it'll be continent wide, but some continents have more than one region, different enough that I want to see them blossom into their own ecosystems.
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>>19319707
Which region were you thinking next? Which one needs more creatures in it/evolving of basic creatures?
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>>19320012
Well, actually, the desert was the only one that was *really* behind, so next time I do a region it'll be as part of Part 6.
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I'm gonna bumb this, just because I can.
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So, since this game technically ran concurrent to Part 5, are we going to want written descriptions of the creatures from this thread, assuming you're going to make that 'list of creatures at the end of Part 5' page?
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The Wretch's sail grows larger and spreads further down its back, assisting it in dealing with the temperature.
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>>19324184

Their sail continues to grow and develops a series of veins along its length; this allows for more efficient temperature-control through vaso-dilation.
As a side effect, the Wretches start waving their sails, which become stained with red when enflamed, as a display of aggression / masculinity.
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Hey wait just one minute! Don't act like I was changing any ecological niches now! Scavanger species is the description for the creature you people made that hunts insects and crackeds open bloodhoney hives. I just said that comes with an increasing intellect.
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>>19324987
didn't say the niche had changed it's just reached a stable point it will be smarter yes but no more than a bear is to get into a bee hive is all.


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