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So I'm supposed to be starting a pathfinder game with some uni bros soon. I've only ever played a few months of 4th Ed, which was simple enough, but I've heard 3.5/pathfinder can be incredibly arcane. How hard will the backwards shift be?
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>but I've heard 3.5/pathfinder can be incredibly arcane.

Oh, you and your puns.

Here have a link, it's the hypertext SRD, it will get you around the basics of 3.5.

d20srd.org/index.htm
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I've always thought that the biggest hurdle for D&D was character creation. If you can figure that out you're good to go.
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>>19135311
Not nearly as bad as 4e fans make it out to be, and not nearly as easy as 3.5 fans make it out to be. Make sense, mate?
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Same shit, really. You pick your race, you pick your class, you pick your spells (if any), pick your skills, and you're good to go.

In-game its just roll 1d20+modifiers and compare result. The difficulty of all D&D editions is really overblown, it is a very simple game.
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>>19135365
I dunno, there was some pretty complex shit in AD&D, but that was mostly on the DM end.
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3.5 just has a bit more rules and a slightly different combat system. Much easier to get into than people let on. Pathfinder is essentially 3.5 with some fixes.
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>>19135365

Well then the real trick is making a character that's not horribly gimped
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The complexity comes mostly from the situational rules - there are loads of them. As a player you won't have to know them, and as a GM you can just improvise a new system (skill rolls can cover everything), so it's not a big obstacle.

You'll do fine.
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>>19135311
GUYS.


GUYS.
....That woman don't got no clothes on!
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>>19135404
You reckon she might let us have our way with her?
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>>19135404
She might very well have clothes on, Jeremy.

Don't act like you haven't seen naked ladies, Jeremy.

Go stand guard, Jeremy. Don't be a fool.
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>>19135323
He's starting a game of Pathfinder. Why don't you link the Pathfinder SRD?
OP, use this: www.d20pfsrd.com
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Terrible dungeon masters experiences general?

Once played a game with a guy on a dungeon "he made" was a lvl1 dungeon for new characters, linear path, no story and every room just had a single very strong creature in it room after room with no puzzles, traps or anything just one strong creature after another. Then we died to like the 5th dragon he had in the dungeon because he assumed we would have gained enough experience to fight it by then even though it was silly strong without it being a boss or anything, just another enemy in one of the rooms.

We didn't play his dungeons any more.....
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>>19135410
But... but...

SHE'S ALL NAKED AND WHATNOT!
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>>19135436
I think jeremy may be on to something here...
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>>19135463
Jesus Christ, Donny. Why do all of you have dicks for brains.

Go on, be quick about it. I'll keep guard. But I'm taking one more share once we kill that fucking dragon. And if she turns out to try to eat you, I ain't helping you. You knife your way out of it yourselves.
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>>19135493
Wait... you don't think she could be one of them succubus type things, do ya?
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>>19135436
>>19135463
Of course she's naked you nitwits, she's taking a bath! You don't take baths with your clothes on, do you now?
Show's over you all, get back to the line you hear me?
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>>19135505
Don't listen to him, mate. Even if she is, I reckon she'll give us a right good time before we've got to fight our way to safety. And hey, even if he does take an extra share, if it turns out to be a succubus, I bet she's got some neat trinkets too that we can split.
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>>19135505

Succubus, in water? Probably not.

She's more likely one of them Bog Hags or even an Rusulka. Sure, she looks hot as hell and is beckoning you to join her for a short swim. But the second you're in the deep, bitch just drags you under, laughing the entire time.
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>>19135509
Y..Yes sir. I didn't mean to cause no trouble.
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>>19135519
Oh gods. Maybe we should cut her up, just to make sure... Don't want no bog hags lurking round here.
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>>19135528
True that. Can't risk bog hags trying to snatch people, even if they have a beautiful rack of tits.
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>>19135538
Right, its sorted then. We all attack her at once.

Ready?
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>>19135528
No-one's cutting no-one up anymore, don't you remember what happened last time when you were convinced that peasants are vampires? The reason why we can't ever go back to the Dukedom even though it was a honest mistake when you think about it?
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>>19135543
Wait wait wait. I still want to fuck her. Ain't nothing wrong with taking a little fun with the bog hag before we kill here, aye? Let's catch her with a net, pass her around for some fun, then kill her. Everyone wins, and we've done away with an evil creature to boot.
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>>19135555
>bog hag
>bog
>hag
>little fun
what
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>>19135554
Hey, I'm still not convinced that he wasn't a vampire. Never saw him walking about town during the day, did we? I don't care if they said he's a 'night watchman,' that's still right odd.
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>>19135554
I still say they were vampires...


What kind of vampire worth his salt can't leave no convincing corpse, eh?
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>>19135558
Hey, as long as she keeps looking like she does right now? I'm quite alright with it all.
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>>19135555
Fine donny, go get your dick ripped off.

I hope it's worth it.
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>>19135560
The peasants didn't leave corpses BECAUSE WE FED THEM TO THE PIGS 'JUST TO BE SURE', REMEMBER?
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>>19135555

It's a Bog Hag, you moron. Do you know why they're called Bog Hags?

Because underneath the sexy skin lies a wrinkled old green monster with female pattern baldness. If you want to fuck old women, you do that on your time, but we're not going to delay a killing blow just so you can fuck it,
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>>19135570
Well you have to be careful with these sorts of things, eh?

Better safe than undead, I say.
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>>19135573
Eh, I dunno. As long as she keeps wearing that sexy skin, I might still want to have a go at her. I don't think I would be much of a looker without my skin either.
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ITT: CE adventurers.
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>>19135570
I still say we should have roasted those pigs on a pyre, just to be sure.
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>>19135573
Wait, are we still talking about killing it?

What if its just a regular person taking a bath?

Actually nevermind... she's run off now anyways.
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>>19135567
>>19135569
>>19135573
AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS HERE? She doesn't look like anything like a bog hag or a vampire or anything! She's not an evil demonic entity focused on seducing men to their doom, but just a regular peasant taking a regular bath in a regular lake! She's worth like 1 XP fer chrissakes!
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>>19135581
Chaotic Stupid, more like.
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>>19135585
Holy shit she turned invisible! Grab your weapons and alchemist's fire!
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>>19135585
Dammit, look what you all did!

You let the bog hag get away!
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>>19135594
Can bog hags do that?
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>>19135585
>>19135586
But what if she isn't? Seems a bit suspicious, doesn't it, for our party to just coincidentally happen upon a perfectly safe, normal, sexy woman taking a bath. I mean, really, how often does that happen, happening upon bathing women? I think it's almost more likely for it to be some kind of bog hag. Can't let that slide, a bog hag so close to town.
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>>19135594
SET THE LAKE ON FIRE!
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>>19135601
Vampires can, I reckon.
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>>19135604
KILL THE HOG BAG!
AAAIIIEEEE!
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>>19135606
You think this town has a vampire infection too? We had better build a proper pyre this time, I'm still a bit miffed that we only had pigs to get rid of the vampire corpses with.
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>>19135606

Goddamit charlie, when are you going to realise it's not vampires?. It's never BEEN vampires and it's never going to bloody be vampires.

What the hell is it with you and vampires anyways?

>>19135610
And tookie, stop encouraging him, or I'm going to have to tie you to the tree again.
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>>19135628
A vampire killed my parents.
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>>19135610
WHAT VAMPIRE PIGS NOW? OH GOD THE HOG BAGS ARE UPON US, FLEE WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
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>>19135631
For the hundreth time, no it wasn't a vampire, it was an angry peasant.
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>>19135631
That's a bloody bare faced lie charlie, and you know it. Your parents are alive and well, they just don't like you.
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>>19135628
Hey, vampires ain't got no mercy. You give them an inch and before you know it, they're sipping you like a pint before they even get going for the night. And now here you are, just letting vampire pigs roam about without even building a proper pyre. For shame.
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>>19135610

Well, for what it's worth, I think we still have enough Alchemist's Fire for the rest of the town, so we can probably just torch whatever building would be most likely to hold the Vampires.

As soon as Charlie finishes burning the lake.
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>>19135639
Don't listen to him. He's talking arses.
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>>19135639
What kind of angry peasant waits until the middle of the night to kill someone? Seems right suspicious to me.
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>>19135642
Uh, it's Steve who's running around the lake on fire. They look like twins, sir, but it's just a coincidence, honestly.
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>>19135654
Goddamit, you little shits. Listen to me.

IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
HE'S MAKING IT UP.

I'VE MET HIS PARENTS AND THEY'RE BOTH LOVELY.

Now, about this invisible bog hag...
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>>19135661
Um, guys...


Why is steve bleeding from his neck like that?
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>>19135665

Steve lit it on fire, so I think we've got that covered.

You can even hear someone screaming.
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>>19135661
>coincidence
Is it, though?
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>>19135671
He said he cut himself shaving, but I'm not so sure about that...
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>>19135676
It is, though.
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>>19135686
IS IT, though?
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>>19135679
He seems to be staring at us an awful lot.


Oh look, now he's tossing us a bottle of alchemist fire.
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>>19135694
OH FUCKING CHRIST, SOMEBODY CATCH IT!

Steve so help me if I don't die, I AM going to kill you.
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>>19135692
It is, though...
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>>19135705
IS.

IT.

THOUGH!?
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>>19135703
AAUGH GETITOFFME GEITIOFF
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>>19135705
Sir... Tom and Tom are arguing again.
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>>19135709
...well, there is this one thing, though.
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JUMP IN THE WATER!
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>>19135718
Oh, aye, and what's the thing, then? Out with it.
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>>19135719
NO THERE'S A BAG HOG IN THE WATER
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>>19135719
But what if the bog hag is in there?
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>>19135710

SWEET JESUS IT'S MELTING MY WEAPONS

NOW HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FIGHT VAMPIRES
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>>19135724
We were going to net and fuck her anyway, grab the net and jump in!
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>>19135722
Well, you can never see Charlie and Steve at the same time, you know? That's kinda odd, all I'm sayin'
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>>19135719

THE WATER'S ON FIRE TOO

STEVE LIT IT ON FIRE BECAUSE OF THE BOG HAG
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Guys, I got steve... he's dead now.

It turns out he actually WAS a vampire.
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>>19135736
AHA! Right under our noses the whole time.

I bloody knew it.
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>>19135732
I saw them together once, talking to each other through a window. Or... Or was it a mirror? They were wearing different clothes, but that's how magic works anyway, innit?
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>>19135742
Well, let's get the bag hog to gobble him up while we're building the pyre.
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>>19135725
Hold still, I've got a bucket of water!


Oh fuck wait, that wasn't water... that was the leftover rum.
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>>19135742
Then why didn't you say anything?
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>>19135752
You chucked our last rum bucket on our vampire-fighting weapons? Damn it! Now we're right fucked.
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>>19135755
Because...

Well, because...
Shut up, tookie.
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>archived
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/19135311/
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>>19135764
FUCK THE WEAPONS, HE JUST WASTED THE LAST OF THE RUM.
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All the same basic stuff is there. If you start at level one, I'm sure you'll adapt fine.
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>>19135781
I know, what did you think I was talking about? Oh, wait, shit, the weapons are still on fire too!
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oh Fuck
I go to take a leak and you guys set everything on fire again, Is it really that hard to not burn down everything we come across?
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>>19135831
It's not everything, just dangerous shit pretending to be safe. Sometimes some other stuff gets burnt too, but that's just 'cause it's in the way.
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>>19135831

It wasn't me, it was the INVISIBLE BOG HAG.
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>>19135831
If they'd all listened to me, the only thing we'd be coming across right now would be some beautiful naked breasts.

All this bloody talk about bog hags.
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>>19135843
Bog Hags can't go invisible, that's vampires that do that
...
Gods above What Happened to Steve?
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>>19135868
He was secretly a vampire the whole time. THEY CAN WALK IN THE DAY NOW.
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>>19135878
Well we better find some pigs then. We can roast them afterwards this time seeing as we have all this spare fire
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I lol'd
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>>19135900
We would have a pig to feed Steve too if he hadn't burnt up the Bag Hog. Wily bastard. Now we can't get rid of his body and my knob's not going to get polished.
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>>19135416
and this OP
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/
It's the official website. Smoother and easier to use than the srd, but does not contain any information, creatures, items et cetera from splatbooks or any of the adventures they've made.
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>>19136104

Fer chrissake, Dan, just go ask Chris to polish yer knob again. We all know already, ain't no point in tryin' t' keep it secret.
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>>19136191
I would, but he was rubbish at it. No offense, Chris, I just don't think you have much practice and I don't much care to be your practice.
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>>19136226
Are you really saying you're rather have a rusty knob than help a guy improve his technique?
You're an ass Dan.
And for the record, saying "no offence" doesn't make it hurt less.
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Hey guys, everything's on fire again. The druids and elves are gonna be pissed.
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>>19136442
Sorry, but if I'm going to get my dick wet, I would, you know, like to have someone with a bit more practice have a go at it. If you get some practice in on a banana or some other bloke or something, I would totally give it another go.
>>19136459
Shut up, mate, we're busy talking about my knob. We'll get to the fire later.
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>>19136481
Maybe if it was bigger than an inch I'd have made a better job of it, but there's only so much one can do with a thing like that.
I mean seriously, where do you get a knob that small?
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>>19135340

nope. grapple rules.
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>>19136513
Hey, listen, I'm just saying you need practice, not that you can't get good. I may not have the biggest cock but it's a fair sight bigger than that, mate. Come on, now.
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>>19136513
>>19136531
Seriously, the forest is burning down. Are you two just going to stand around chatting about his knob or are you going to help us try to find the bag hog so that we can feed Steve to her? We really do have some pressing concerns at the moment.
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>>19136531
I'm talking about the knob, not your sodding chickens!
By the gods, I don't know why you insisted on buying it in the first place if you've nothing to put it on.
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>>19136630
I'm talking about the time you gave me a blowjob. Maybe we shouldn't have been arguing so loudly about this in front of the other guys.
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>>19136630
>>19136671
God damn it, I'm on fire over here!
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>>19136731

QUICK! GRAPPLE THE INVISIBLE BOG HAG!!
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>>19136809
Are you kidding? She's on fire.
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Fuck all of you, I'm off to kill me some vampires.


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