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    16 KB Planetary Governor Quest: Part Six TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/14/12(Sat)23:57 No.18717305  
    You are former Imperial Navy captain Elyssa von Braun, the Planetary Governor of the planet Daysimir, appointed following the previous corrupt, incompetent, and, as it turned out, Tau-Sympathizing Governor Rodoris Caliphate the Sixths removal from office for failure to pay the Imperial Tithes.

    The world itself is somewhat larger than Terra and has gravity roughly 10% higher, along being notably richer in mineral resources, it also has deposits of several useful substances not found on Ancient Terra. It's population of 3 billion 42 million souls (The old Governor was fastidious about keeping up population census, if nothing else of practical value. Your staff has carried on the tradition) is spread more or less evenly across the single inhabitable mega-continent of Daysimir, stretching from pole to pole and containing a wide variety of environments. The planet is dotted with smaller island chains and landmasses, but due to harsh climates they are populated only by research and weather-observation outposts, along with the occasional goat herd that remains only because they have no means of leaving. You have recently begun using the worst of these isles as harsh-environment training camps for your PDF.

    Aside from divergent continents the planet is practically the twin of Ancient Terra, having been terraformed and seeded with Terran life forms during the Dark Age of Technology, the planet has both a massive moon similar to Luna and a range of trace minerals nearly identical to Old Earth, meaning that the population of Daysimir, unlike most other planets in the Imperium, does not require regular supplementary pills to make up for trace minerals that the planet is deficient in.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/14/12(Sat)23:59 No.18717327
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    Aside from divergent continents the planet is practically the twin of Ancient Terra, having been terraformed and seeded with Terran life forms during the Dark Age of Technology, the planet has both a massive moon similar to Luna and a range of trace minerals nearly identical to Old Earth, meaning that the population of Daysimir, unlike most other planets in the Imperium, does not require regular supplementary pills to make up for trace minerals that the planet is deficient in.

    The people of Daysimir are a hardy, independent, and freedom-loving folk, heavily armed and used to telling authority figures to go to Hell when their interference becomes annoying. Many of them were veterans of the conquest of the planet by the Tau Empire, and the following guerrilla war to free it. Resistance forces eventually won with the help of Eldar strike-teams from Exodite worlds in the sector and a nearby Craftworld. After 12 years of bloody guerrilla warfare beside their Eldar allies, along with the occasional Gue’Vesa or Kroot Turncloaks, the people of Daysimir shed the Imperial propaganda that the Ecclesiarchy had managed to hammer into the population after Imperial forces shut down their trade with nearby Xenos Empires. Since the end of the war the neither the Ecclesiarchy or anti-Xenos propaganda have been welcome on Daysimir, and clandestine trade with old Eldar allies continues in the wilderness to this day, far from prying eyes. The general population (All adults from 18-40) have been recently inducted into a Planetary Militia and are trained to Imperial Guard standards, armed with lasguns, flak vests, and Ragnarok tanks.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)00:01 No.18717345
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    It was because of this bloody-minded independence, martial spirit, and near-total disregard for the ancient Laws of the Imperium that Governor Rodoris was blocked from tyrannizing his people, by fear of a planet-wide rebellion, and was thus limited to squandering tax money on a lavish palace and personal pleasures instead of holding his populace in an iron grip as he had intended. The Governor was eventually removed from power when he began cracking down on the ancient civil rights of the planets citizens. Imperial authorities in the sector feared that a successful rebellion (As the PDF had atrophied from constant embezzling of funds for several decades) would encourage unrest across dozens of worlds and removed him from office. The planet is also unusual in that most positions normally held by Techpriests are instead occupied by civilian engineers and technicians, leaving the Techpriests in control of only the most complex and advanced pieces of machinery and greatly reducing the amount of influence the AdMech holds over the planetary government. The population of Daysimir boasts both a very low rate of mutation and almost twice the number of Geneseed-Compatible citizens, making it a popular recruiting world for fleet-based Astartes Chapters. This was also one of the main factors in the Iron Dragons Chapter deciding to settle on Daysimir as their Homeworld.
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    Planetary governor quest? BUENO
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:03 No.18717380
    clearly this anon hasn't read lord quest.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)00:03 No.18717385
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    The planet is also home to several million Ogryns living in tribal groups on the northern reaches of your world, which has had the effect of making your people far more tolerant of Abhumans and even more mistrustful of the Ecclesiarchy. Until the Tau occupation and Rodoris the Sixth’s disastrous appointment to Governor, it was customary for the Regiments Ogryn attachment to simply be recruited from their homeworld. You have started recruiting and training these Abhumans into your PDF.

    The Nobilis Proscriptae Sector is located on the farthest reaches of the Eastern Fringe, being far enough away from both the Tau Empire and Ultramarine space to keep interference by both parties to a minimum. In the immediate sub-sector (Called Kri by the local merchants) there are three Civilized worlds, eight Frontier worlds (Backwater Civilized worlds with little to no Imperial presence, often ignore Imperial laws concerning trade with Xenos, although this is true of most of the sector) one Feudal world, and a Death World that is the proud home of the fiercest and most highly decorated Regiment in the sector.

    In the sector at large is more of the same, a mix of Frontier and Civilized worlds with a peppering of feudal and feral worlds. In the capitol system of the sector there is one Hive World (Magnoris, the Sector Capitol) one Forge World, two civilized worlds, one Agri-world, and a very lucrative asteroid belt mining colony.
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    I was tired of people not reading the text telling them that their planet was infested by Genestealers in the early threads.

    Of the Xenos presence in the sector, there are four major Empires: The Xin'Tar Warrior Hives to the "Southern” edge of the sector, the Kraan Hegemony to the North, The Jarki stars to the center of the sector, and an unknown reptilian race run by a "Cabal" in the East (And that's right near you!). There are also five Eldar Exodite Worlds, three Ork worlds, two of which were once Imperial, (which are a constant pain in the ass) and one Daemon world (Which is a bigger pain in the ass to everyone than everything else in the sector combined). There are also several dozen minor Xenos races whose dominions extend over only one planet.

    Items of interest:
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)00:10 No.18717490
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    Your PDF has grown in size from 300,000 to 9 million; armored vehicles are in short supply simply due to the massive increase in PDF numbers, even after old armories were opened. The Munitorum Rep is correcting this and re-arming your PDF.

    You have begun local production of the Chimera APC and Ragnarok MBT (A Leman Russ alternative developed during the Krieg War, designed to be as simple to construct as possible, essentially a Plasteel box on treads with a cannon and Heavy Stubber) to supply your PDF and even export a little on the inter-planetary market. The Ragnaroks have taken the place of Leman Russ tanks in much of your PDF due to sheer shortage of the latter. The Departmento Munitorum is correcting this, however.

    Former Resistance leader Davos Ithkael has started a Planetary Militia, training troops up to the standards of modern day U.S. Marine Marksmen and arming them with Flak Armor, lasguns, Heavy Stubbers, Autocannons, and Ragnarok Tanks. It is unclear whether he has built up this force to fight off future invaders, you, or both.

    Your PDF has been armed with a improved mark of the lasgun used by the Krieg regiments, packs more punch at the expense of using more ammunition, has longer range, is even more durable than the standard, and comes with an advanced targeting system that replaces the standard IG iron sights, although they are still included in case the targeting scope fails or is destroyed.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)00:17 No.18717565
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    An improved mark of Flak Armor, commonly used by the Elysian Regiments, is being distributed to your PDF, old flak armor is being kept in storage.

    The Iron Dragons have discovered one of the original Dark Age settlements on the mountainside of your greatest mountain range, a factory hidden from scouring winds in the skull of a huge fossilized Dragon-like creature buried in the mountain. The Iron Dragons have taken the discovery of a Dark Age forge located INSIDE an ancient Drake on the side of a mineral-rich mountain as an obvious sign, and are constructing their Fortress-Monastery there, incorporating the super-strong fossilized bones into their Monastery as its foundation and support structure.

    The Iron Dragons have been delighted to discover within he ancient manufactorum several Dark Age Fabricators that produce 300% more efficiently than the ones they possess, still in working condition, and the STC printout to construct some kind of automated mining and mineral refinement facility.

    The Iron Dragons have begun reverse-engineering the PDF vehicles you sent them, and the Master of the Forge has shown interest in manufacturing a new mark of tank based on combing the Leman Russ Vanquisher with an old “Abrams” tank design, apparently dating back to before the Dark Age of Technology, that was discovered on a Dead World recently by the Dragons.

    Many of the Iron Dragons not on active duty have begun to lead normal lives among the people of your planet after the fashion of their Parent Salamanders; the population has come to trust them more than they trust you. One Brother-Sargent has started a pizza delivery business in your Capitol.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:22 No.18717628
    This is so awesome!
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)00:23 No.18717636
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    Centauran wheat has replaced all previous varieties as both a staple and long-term storage food.

    The Herbs you purchased, medicinal, edible, and recreational, have become popular garden plants planet-wide and are becoming a minor export item.

    Sarian Bell Flowers have become a great source of profit for wealthy business ventures specializing in rare plants, they grow well in the native soil, although they require climate-controlled greenhouses to thrive, and already they are becoming a profitable export. Many advanced Pharmaceuticals have been derived from the plant.

    Infrastructure Repair is complete.

    Orbital Defense Repair is 70% complete (Sped up thanks to Iron Dragons Techmarines)

    Orbital Docking station Amir is repaired and functional, an increase in inter-planetary trade has already been noticed.

    Dozens of defunct Orbital Defense Platforms have been towed back into orbit for later repair.

    The civilians that came with the Iron Dragons, mostly the families of recruits that were offered to come with their Aspirant sons and work as crewmen on the Chapter fleet (One of the reasons why the Dragons empathize so much with normal humans), have settled on the planets surface, most in the harsh icy regions near the Fortress Monastery, the rest as near the Chapter Bastions as they could.

    Your scribes have found no items of heretical nature among the old books, tomes, and fragments of text purchased from the Rogue Trader. You have loaned these tomes to your new University.

    You are constructing a combination University and Art School, along with a nearby Military Academy.

    You are fortifying your cities and building large bunkers in key points within them that are capable of holding out against entire armies of ground opponents and provide limited defense to defending forces against Orbital Bombardment.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)00:24 No.18717652
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    Sorry I'm late, I was busy playing Aerobiz Supersonic, I thought you said you would be starting earlier last thread, so I got bored waiting around.

    Here's an idea:
    Public work camps: For anyone unemployed, send them to public work camps, constucting public works, new levies, beautifying the cities, the works.
    Pay them a small salary and give them free food and logings. Food will be eaten out of mess tents, and housing can be government owned tenements. (Assign a small security detail to the district to prevent crime)

    Offer them free night classes to learn basic trades, nothing advanced, but enough to get them a better job.
    Do a lot of PDF recruiting from these places, while still maintaining our recruitment standards.
    Hopefully this'll lower/remove unemployment, while at the same time, provide an incentive to get a better job.
    (These jobs aren't designed to be luxurious, merely a way to get them off the street and on the way to a better job.)

    We want to get as many people off the streets as possible as homlessness contributes to crime and hinders tourism, so instead of letting the mentally ill wander the streets, put them into asylums.
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)00:25 No.18717665
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    One of your scribes believes he has identified the location of the star system etched onto the Xenos Helm you purchased earlier, somewhere in the neighboring Sector...

    You have finished training a much more relaxed local version of the Commissar that lead by heroic example on the battlefield and preach a hybrid of a much more Freedom-Oriented Divine Mandate and a very liberal and vague version of the Imperial Creed.

    You have started construction of statues of the Emperor and his loyalist Primarchs around your Palace. You are also building a monument to the freedom fighters whose lives were lost in the war against the Tau.

    An Ultramarine Battlebarge and two Strike Cruisers are en route with three companies of Ultramarines to lay claim your planet, which they see as being in the dominion of Holy Ultramar. They seem to believe that your planet is being overrun by a Genestealer infestation (Which was easily contained and were cleansed by the Iron Dragons within days of their arrival) and defended only by an undisciplined, poorly trained, and under-strength PDF (Which was true when you first arrived four months ago) and a deviant, war-battered Chapter that numbered no more than 400 Marines and was riddled with Geneseed faults (Them jumping to conclusions with a healthy dose of Superiority Complex) and will likely be surprised by the actual state of your world and the Iron Dragons. Open combat is highly unlikely.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:26 No.18717681
    Not joining, just saw you play aerobiz supersonic. And might I say that it is an oft overlooked game that is actually worth playing. Leaving thread now.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:27 No.18717707
    Hey namefag, why don't you note the titles on the quester's post and then consider deleting yours until later.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:29 No.18717738
    Almost sounds like we are starting another Ultrimar Segmentum... Fucking sweeeet!!!
    >> Opening text, please hold your posts and read thoroughly. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)00:31 No.18717758
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    Notes to self:

    Consider converting the moon of your world into a massive orbital defense station and shipyard.

    Consider changing the name of your planet to something more “Grimdark” at the behest of citizens who are tired of being called “Daisies” by off-worlders.

    Discuss starting up a Xenos-Artifact distribution business with your RT friend, allowing Xenos merchants and human buyers to trade freely using Rogue Traders as middlemen to put a “sanction stamp” on Xenos artifacts to prevent the Inquisition from having cause to come down on you.

    You are currently looking over your Rogue Trader friends wares, and were down to deciding between:

    Eight particularly vicious and high-quality Combat Servitors, heavily armored and armed with a variety of nasty close-combat and ranged weapons. (14 C)

    Strong Balgor: Scaly Gladiator (Slave) (Necromunda-native Abhuman) absolutely loyal to its master and a vicious fighter. Pretty damn smart to boot, allowed each of his enemies to cut him once before killing them back in his arena fighting days. According to Malector he has killed World Eater Berserkers in single combat before. (10 C)

    >You action, Governor?
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:32 No.18717784
    Are those SoB still inbound? I've missed a thread or two.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)00:33 No.18717792
    Welcome back, Gameroom! Was looking forward to this, good to see it continue.

    >Purchase mutant, gives you a few bucks for any more shenanigans.

    >Make the speech to the resistance I posted in the last thread. I can paste it in again if people want a look, but I'd rather not clutter the thread unless they do.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)00:33 No.18717797
    Is there any way to modify our sewage plants and have them produce fertilizer? also might I redirect you to >>18717652
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:36 No.18717835
    rolled 22 = 22

    Change the name of the world to Drachnia.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)00:36 No.18717844
    I think we told them we hand things under control and they left IIRC, we also declined the ultramarines for help, but they're coming here anyways because "their" world is now being occupied by a non-codex chapter.

    My details are a little fuzzy though, as it's been 2 weeks since the last thread.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:37 No.18717847
    Whats our money situation like? Personel funds? Planetary funds?
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)00:38 No.18717874
    SoBs may still be inbound but they do seem to like us more than before possibly, considering we offered them a place to rest and repair.

    This is not a bad idea. Secondan.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)00:42 No.18717931
    We have 15 currency units in the planet's treasury and no data as yet on personal funds IIRC.

    We spend ten bucks on the abhuman bodyguard, gives us five to spare in case the RT pulls any more silly shit before leaving like last time when the resistance fighters could have used our help.

    Re-reading archive for details on the proposal to get private sector industry running and so forth for more on personal funds now.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:45 No.18717979
    Woah. 10 units for a personel bodygaurd? We can't just drain the treasury for our benefit like that... Can we? Will the people hate us? If not I second buying the abhuman.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)00:45 No.18717989

    The Sisters will be here in a few weeks to rest before returning to their base at Agri World Jalkir (Capitol System).

    Incidentally, it appears that they constitute fully half of the remaining Sisters in the sector, as casualties exterminating various Genestealer nests across the Sector were absolutely horrendous. If the Iron Dragons had not immediately sent most of their Chapter forces to assist they may have taken so many casualties that the Pyrrhic victory could have destroyed the Covenant. It will be quite some time before they return to full strength.


    Spend 2 C implementing this?


    Confirm Abhuman Slave-Gladiator purchase (A Mutant slave as a bodyguard may attract Puritan attention, but Abhumans are more tolerated)?

    Re-Post it if you don't mind, so other readers can read it to yes/no or suggest changes.


    You currently have 15 Currency in your Treasury, (1 C=1.5 million $, roughly).


    Confirm name change, or survey populations view on this first?


    You have your staff start looking into it.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)00:46 No.18718001
    Here's an Idea, when the Art School is open, sponsor an end of term/year project/contest where the winner of each category (cooking, music, painting, sculpture, ect) gets their works put on display/served/played/whatever. (Sculpture in the city square, winning dish served by the winner at an important event, ect) Do it in a public ceremony as a "sponsoring the arts" program, and offer them a small monetary prize.

    This gains the students some reknown and prestiege for when they leave school, and gets us some nice art peices on the cheap, AND gets us known as a patron of the fine arts.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)00:47 No.18718017
    Before I forget:

    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:48 No.18718038
    >Spend 2 C implementing this?

    Make attending those camps voluntary. I doubt our population would accept anything else.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:49 No.18718060
    Hold on that name change until the ultramarines get here. I feel that the outcome may weigh in favour of the name.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)00:51 No.18718103
    It's public security, and we collect fuckloads of taxes, and we're way better than the last governor, and we sold his private horde of bullshit to invest in repairing schools and roads. They won't lynch us for it.

    Also seconding.

    >Consider converting the moon of your world into a massive orbital defense station and shipyard.
    Not converting, like, the whole moon, right? Just maybe installing a pretty huge station and shipyard on it.

    >Consider changing the name of your planet to something more “Grimdark” at the behest of citizens who are tired of being called “Daisies” by off-worlders.
    Let's start a list of proposed names.

    >Discuss starting up a Xenos-Artifact distribution business with your RT friend, allowing Xenos merchants and human buyers to trade freely using Rogue Traders as middlemen to put a “sanction stamp” on Xenos artifacts to prevent the Inquisition from having cause to come down on you.
    Do this, but have inspectors put into place to divert truly dangerous artifacts away from public consumption. We don't need to create weird motherfucking shit on our world by importing warp artifacts and selling them freely.

    Special services customs agency. Maybe with a holding facility for the wacky shit, so the =][= can come take it off your hands...unless you find a better use for it. Like trading it to the Tau and sitting back to watch one of their fleets implode.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)00:53 No.18718147
    I don't think I'm allowed to vote for my own ideas, am I?
    Did we implement the idea of a government sponsored free education, where you work for the governemnt for an equal amount of years after you graduate, and idea of offering extended benifits to all government employees (NOT labour camp, Healthcare, Dental, discount/duty free shopping at gov't stores ((with set limit based on household size, ect))?

    Here's an idea, request the techmarine and apothecary for advice on training/running our enginseers/medicae.

    We ask them to see if there's any ideas they'd like to implement, and if they will so, have them help form lesson plans and the like.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:54 No.18718159
    >trading it to the Tau and sitting back to watch one of their fleets implode.

    Since we are more understanding of xeno cultures could we possibly do this for tech?
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)00:55 No.18718184
    Voluntary good. If they want to walk around fucking up their lives and starving and wasting time, whatever. But provide transportation to the camps for those in rural regions, etc.

    >The Sisters will be here in a few weeks to rest before returning to their base at Agri World Jalkir (Capitol System).

    >Incidentally, it appears that they constitute fully half of the remaining Sisters in the sector, as casualties exterminating various Genestealer nests across the Sector were absolutely horrendous. If the Iron Dragons had not immediately sent most of their Chapter forces to assist they may have taken so many casualties that the Pyrrhic victory could have destroyed the Covenant. It will be quite some time before they return to full strength.
    Let's ask our advisers if it would be at all wise to offer them recruiting rights from those citizens loyal to the Imperial Creed (I believe we have a minority?) assuming these citizens agree to it.

    >Spend 2 C implementing this?

    >Confirm Abhuman Slave-Gladiator purchase (A Mutant slave as a bodyguard may attract Puritan attention, but Abhumans are more tolerated)?

    >Re-Post it if you don't mind, so other readers can read it to yes/no or suggest changes.

    >Confirm name change, or survey populations view on this first?
    Survey population, start list of potential names to change to. Put 'Malcadoria' on the list, after the Sigilite.

    >You have your staff start looking into it.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:55 No.18718187
    >the population has come to trust them more than they trust you

    Is that so simply because the last governor sucked so much or do they dislike something about Elyssa herself.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)00:56 No.18718212
    The goal wouldn't be to have cheap labour, it'd be to get people off the streets, the reason for substandard conditions and pay would be to encourage them to get REAL jobs (hence the nightclasses).

    It's basically for anyone who can't get a job until they can get a job, so it's basically labour for welfare.

    We get people off the streets, we get some shit built, and they can get the resources needed to get better jobs, win-win-win.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)00:56 No.18718215
    Evidently we didn't give you the tl;dr: this planet fought a very bitter campaign to throw off a Tau holding force after being invaded and held by those weaboo fucks.

    TRADING for Tau tech would throw the planet into a firey rage. STEALING Tau tech wouldn't be too bad.

    Trading for xeno tech with the neighbors might be worthwhile, if we can talk to them and they're more than a bunch of tribal cavemen.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)00:58 No.18718252
    I still doubt our population would be okay with forced labour.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)00:58 No.18718255
    First off welcome back gameroom. Love this quest.

    I'd prefer we buy the services of the Tau expat mentioned in last thread if possible.

    If not possible, voting for purchase of gladiator.

    Would not purchase both. Rationale is to increase staff of specialist warriors with different combat expertise/experience/views.

    I'm wary of getting in bed with the Xenos Cold Trade as we appear to be pretty radical with respect to Imperial norms. How heretical would this action be?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:00 No.18718271
    Fine, but we should ramp up the penalties for petty crime, squatting and the like, the goal of this project is to eliminate vagrancy, as rich tourists don't want to see panhandlers.

    We have a budding tourism industry, we should try to nuture the hell out of it.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:02 No.18718306
    >How heretical would this action be?

    Consider our Commissars. Not very.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:02 No.18718310
    Oh, I still think it's a great idea basically, simply don't make it mandatory. Keep bothering people who don't join to do so.
    Once the first guys learned valuable skills or got the help the needed to deal with their problem, voluntary enrollment should go through the roof.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:05 No.18718359
    Bro, are you in politics? This should be implemented now. I would sign up for sure.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:05 No.18718366
    An idea; do we have a large body of open water near the capitol? If we don't we should see about the possiblity of using the empoyment camps to construct an artifical lake nearby, like 100-150km from the outskirts.

    Gives the tourists a nearby place to go yachting, swimming, fishing, do shit on the beaches, camping and the like.

    (For the record I envisioned the labour camps as some kind of New Deal thing, not some horrible dictatorship thing.)
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)01:06 No.18718384



    Camps being voluntary was assumed by me, it seems I should stop doing that in the future. Work Camps open (Popularity +15, Trust +1)

    Membership in your PDF, and the eventual Guard Regiment, is voluntary, after the manner of the Elysians.


    Considering that most Forge Worlds would be unable to do that even if they dedicated all of their resources to it, simply adding a Docking Station/Shipyard with weapons batteries was assumed.

    You don't have any proposed names yet. Request some from the population?

    This was included in the original plan for the station. Tell Malector (RT) to put the word out to his colleagues? Also, there is going to be a Von Braun "family gathering" in about 6 months at your Palace, among your relatives are two Rogue Traders of unknown standing. Do you want to contact the Inquisition about your operation, possibly through the highly suspicious Munitorum Rep?


    No. Unless you feel like being a dick and samefagging.

    I forgot about that. Yes, it is implemented (-1 C to Treasury for operation)

    You agree to the purchase. Malector suppresses a sigh of relief at having one less semi-heretical item on his ship with the Inquisition breathing down his neck and leaves to fetch your purchase.

    >You have 2 C in your Treasury.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:07 No.18718410
    To be honest, I didn't imagine that anyone would turn it down, I mean it's designed for people who can't get a job, and in return you get some money, food, a roof, and job training to get a better job.

    The only people I pictured refusing would be addicts and the mentally ill, and they have rehab and sanitoriums for them.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:09 No.18718430
    Would you second it if the program was voluntary? If so, I'd be right there with you, Anon.


    So, on the Resistance and the problem of their xeno weapons and winning them over to your side with benefits:

    We need to finalize a deal with these people. I'm thinking something like this:

    -We don't register or confiscate weapons, but we do get them to submit a weapons inspection and we number the types and so on so we know that there's x many thousand pulse rifles out there in the northern plateau. We convince them to do this by:
    -Giving them a carrot to the tune of several generations of lower tithes, tuitions, and conscription on their families so they can grow and prosper, but also cheaper officer's commissions so they're motivated to enlist.

    If we give them generational rights like Vostroyan Firstborn to any weapons they have and replace the xeno weapons with good quality imperial manufacture weapons, they can keep on with their whole thing.

    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:10 No.18718444
    Condensed version of speech (see below) is:

    -Resistance fighters and descendants get five generations of cheap tithes on their farms, cheap officer's comissions if they volunteer for the PDF or other military, cheap college, and lower likelihood to be drafted into Administratum manpower tithe that the planet will be forced to pay.

    -In exchange, veterans come forward, get a physical exam, get their wounds noted down, and give an account of their historical role and present their weapons, and weapons are neither registered nor confiscated though the type of weapon is noted down. Identity of veteran is not recorded to protect privacy of veteran and family. Participation in resistance to tau and wounds taken in battle and weapon info noted down in writ.

    -Blood and skin samples are taken from veterans, affixed to a purity seal, seal affixed to Sigilian Writ. Writ is presented when benefits are claimed. Writ may be freely traded as commodity as desired. Copy of writ may be attached to veteran's weapon.

    -Dead or disintegrated veterans are vouched for by vets that are alive and obviously members of the resistance, starting with Davos Ithkael if necessary. This way, nobody gets left out because they got unlucky. Anyone that was lucky enough not to take wounds or had records destroyed or whatever, same deal - someone vouches for you, your story checks out, you get the benefits.

    -When resistance vets die, if they have xeno weapons, the weapon's firing mechanism is deactivated. To replace these, their families are given the right to own better Imperial weapons as a heirloom like Vostroyan Firstborn own their own weapons.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:10 No.18718445
    There are always people who don't like to be forced to do things, even if it's in their best interest. E.g. compulsory education.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:10 No.18718450
    Do we have overall numbers of popularity and trsut?
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:11 No.18718456

    Benefits here are:
    -you know what kind of weapons the resistance vets have even though they're not registered.
    -the xeno weapons are taken out of circulation to a great degree when the vets die and replaced by Imperial ones, so you have less heretical shit on your world
    -the resistance guys and their families are given opportunities to excel, and given that they're already probably overachievers this is not a bad thing for your world.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:11 No.18718470

    Next time the Resistance fighters are in a meeting with you, gather their officers and tell them the following:

    “You wanted a chance to return to your farms, to grow and prosper without the worry of a knife at your back or a noose closing around your family’s throat. As such, I will do you better. For five generations, the following benefits will be granted to those who can prove direct descent from a participant of the resistance - and these proofs will not be frivolous, though the benefits may be claimed posthumously as it was a long fight.”

    “First, your farms will be tithed more lightly than planetary standard. Not so much as to make your neighbors hot with envy, but enough to let your crops prosper. Let the breadbaskets overflow for those that held the cause.”

    “Second, your descendants will be at lower priority for all manpower tithes. Though they may volunteer freely and will be given good training and slightly less costly commissions for officer roles, we will honor the blood you have shed for this world and give your descendants a chance to shed less - though I fully expect they will be of mich mind to volunteer given the following.”

    “Third, subsidies will be paid into scholarships and other means of seeking after education for yourselves and your descendants. For five generations, the cost of learning - whether in university or at the military academy I intend to see built on this world - will be far lighter on the purse.”
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:12 No.18718485


    “These benefits will be noted down on Gubernatorial Writs, perhaps even writs that can be traded freely if the family wishes to do so - I will not deny them that freedom - and affixed to them will be some note of the exploits of the resistance veteran to whom the writ will be issued, whether posthumously or otherwise. The writs will have in them some estimation of the costs of the resistance campaign if the resistance fighters wish, and a total summa of benefits to be divided as appropriate among your descendants, in an amount of currency. Once this runs out there will be certain discounts for tuition, commissions, tithes, and land purchases that will last as long as the generations in question do. I would make it permanent, but that would be to create nobility - so after the last generation has had a try we will have to trust that your descendants showed spirit and steel as you yourselves did and secured prosperity for themselves.”

    “In order to issue the writs, the following steps will be taken: first, if possible, the veteran in question will be interviewed by an authority trusted both by the veterans and the Gubernatorial administration, and as a gesture of forthrightness and a historic telling of deeds some record will be made of the veteran’s deployment, wounds in battle, and armament. NO record will be made of the veteran’s name or identity save a small sample of blood and tissue to be placed into a purity seal attached to the writ itself. This will protect the identity of the veteran’s family for future generations, as we will not track names but possession of the writ, which we will also give the veteran and their family the means to defend.”
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:13 No.18718502


    “Second, the weaponry used by the veteran in the course of the resistance, if it survives, is to be examined by this selfsame trusted authority and its age and use determined. A copy of the writ may be attached to the weapon as further proof of authenticity. In this way, the weapons themselves may be passed on as symbols of the resistance veteran’s valor and proof of benefits to descendants.”

    “In the case that neither the veteran nor the weapons provide physical proof, we will institute a program whereby those that have physical proof may vouch for a limited number of fellows, such that those who are deceased, disintegrated, unmarked through luck in war, or otherwise off-put by this are not denied what they deserve.”

    “In return, we ask that when you do retire to your estates and avail yourselves of these benefits, the following be observed: if the weapons are less than pure in the eyes of the Imperial Creed, they NOT be openly displayed or used barring times of great need, as we are under greater scrutiny. To compensate you for this, we will also issue warrants to your families allowing them to own mightier weapons of whatever sanctioned make they choose, within reason. These will be passed down through the family and available at birthright.” (Think Vostroyan Firstborn here)
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:13 No.18718509

    Continues and ends.

    “Finally, should the weapon be of impure make and thus a weapon of desperation taken up by resistance veterans to defend their world, we would ask that the firing mechanism be disabled at the end of the veteran’s life, and that the weapon be enshrined as appropriate. This may also ensure that the souls of the veteran’s descendants are not affected by xenos taint, which may blight the brave spirits of those that threw off the yoke of the Tau in the time of need. Let us give you greater arms for the next crisis, arms that will not have you hewed down by a supposed relief force from deep within the Imperium, and lay to rest the arms you needed when things were at their worst when you go to meet your fates.”

    "As such, I give you these writs and style them after Malcador the Sigilite, who like yourselves served when proper authority was absent. You may come forward on your own time to recieve them, and to take your place as members of the Sigilian Band of Daysimir."

    Tell me what you think, questbros. I will work your changes into the text.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:14 No.18718512
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    Actually I specifically chose to namefag so people wouldn't think I was trying to vote multiple times on things, I'm assuming that you think people vote for what they post.

    How about next year we see to the feasiblity of converting exhausted mine shafts into supply chaches/bunkers/safehouses.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:15 No.18718525
    Wow. All of the above.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:19 No.18718585
    At some point, the minority's going to have to go and be overruled by a majority. Not that they couldn't become a majority and overrule someone else later, though.
    That would be cool.

    >You don't have any proposed names yet. Request some from the population?
    Yes, please, but see if they like 'Malchadoria.'
    >This was included in the original plan for the station. Tell Malector (RT) to put the word out to his colleagues?
    Sure, why not.
    >Also, there is going to be a Von Braun "family gathering" in about 6 months at your Palace, among your relatives are two Rogue Traders of unknown standing. Do you want to contact the Inquisition about your operation, possibly through the highly suspicious Munitorum Rep?
    We were going to invite the Munitorum Rep back anyway, and as such we'll have to decide that if he returns.

    We want to find contacts with Radical =][= elements, go for the saner ones, and make some friends. Past that, we'll have to see what we're working with here. Xeno Hybris =][= extremely welcome, if anything like sane/stable.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:20 No.18718589
    Not a terrible idea, secondan.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)01:23 No.18718618
    >2c left
    Voting suspend purchases until next season/cash flow.

    If the Xenos artifact trade program makes us a less likely target of the inquisition I'm all for it.

    Comprehensive scan of moon for minerals/ruins/etc before construction plans

    >mutant gladiator
    Interview him to make sure he is clear of heresy. Pick his brain if he has anything useful to add to our tactics database(vs fighting chaos space marines you do x) vs rare Xenos.

    Maybe have him spar/train against our elite soldiers as a sort of golden gloves competition if both are amenable.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:23 No.18718622
    How about we put some of that farmland to good use, and start up some vineyards to produce amasec, high quality amasec could be sold for significant sums as a luxury item.

    Experiment with diffrent types of grapes and different cilmates and soil types to have a variety. (Icewine!)
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)01:33 No.18718757
    Seconding the Voluntary work camps if not already implemented.

    Also seconding the >>18718001 yearly art school competition. This year have it be focused on sculpture for Tau war memorials, genestealer skirmish remembrances, and statues to impress the ultramarines. Perhaps of salamanders and ultramarines fighting sideby side in historical occasions.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:35 No.18718805
    Hmm, I didn't think about themes, I just pictured at the end of the year/term, everyone submitted something (if they entered) to their perspective category, and the winner of each category got their creation put on display and got an award/prize (So there'd be a winner for painting, another for suclpting, another for cooking, one for music, ect.)
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:39 No.18718871

    Some names:
    Pandora (generic but seems like it would work)
    Malchadoria (editor's (the namefag) pick)
    Drachnia (some anon's)

    Come up with your own names or second some here.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:41 No.18718892
    Bob (Yes I like Titian AE)
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:44 No.18718933
    How about we name it after an Imperial hero or popular (non-controverisal) saint, like Ollanius Pius?
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)01:46 No.18718962
    The themes for the art grant can be general to avoid micromanagement but since we are on a statue building spree why not have one feed into the other for this year.

    >SoB coming
    If we can find out what type of chapter it is and do a little prepwork for gifts/resupplies. Ie they seem like a martial chapter so prepare with some top tier weapons, barrels of promethium, etc that they would appreciate. Guns not fruit basket diplomacy.

    When the sob arrive how about a day celebration for sectorwide conflicts against the tyranids. Something like shark week on the history channel, but with videos on our well fought defeat of the genestealer cult, make sure you and your kids are genetically registered, how to fight a termagaunt in close quarters, and videos celebrating the courage of the sob's campaigns in the sector. With a day of remembrance and prayer.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:47 No.18718977
    So let me get this straight. Iron dragons have made this their homeworld? And the ultramarines are on the way to claim it?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)01:50 No.18719038
    Trust is 16, Popularity is 65. Average popularity for a Dictator Government is 50, Democracy 90. Average trust is 40 for Dictator, 75 for Democracy. Corporate Governments are too rare, vary too much, and change too rapidly for the Imperium to get an accurate average.

    The people are...Unsure of you. They see the Resistance and liberators (Which, to be fair, they are), and won't fully trust you so long as you are at odds with them. Many fear a civil war and yet another long guerrilla war is imminent, although there is no doubt that the well armed and incredibly well trained PDF would side with them despite Iron Dragons Mental Conditioning. The real question is whether the Iron Dragons will side with you or remain neutral, and if the Tau will see an opportunity to attack.

    There is no lake within viewing distance of your Capitol, but there is a rather nice mountain range. You don't have the funds for this project right now (Artificial Lake, 15 C) so you put it on your To-Do list.

    All four major Xenos Empires number roughly between 50-100 worlds each and are Warp-Capable, there are many Empires smaller than that with varying tech levels. It's considered normal to trade freely with Xenos outside the Capitol as soon as the Imperial Navy patrols are gone, your planet is particularly Xenos-Tolerant, the local Arbites have decided to just not fuck with that arrangement until they have more resources in-sector (Only 1/10 planets has an Arbites presence).

    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:51 No.18719057
    They've setteled down here, but we still control the planet.
    The Ultramarines are frustrated because they were using this as a recruitment world and they were in talk with the previous regiemt. (We didn't help by requesting their help and then turning around and saying nvm we got another chapter we like more than you.

    Neither chapter hold control over the planet.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)01:51 No.18719059
    >Imperial hero or popular saint

    I get the feeling that you're just being contrary because I've irritated you or something. Didn't intend that if it's the case.

    Malcador the Sigilite is perhaps the most well known mortal imperial saint and certainly not controversial. Pius has conflicting legends told about him, and is only a mortal to the guard. Others claim he was a Space Marine.

    Hence my suggestion.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)01:53 No.18719097
    They were cut down to half their numbers. Our planet is quickly becoming very martial and we still have some imperial creed supporters. We can offer them recruits.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:54 No.18719104
    Honestly I didn't know Malchadoria was named after anything important, I saw Pandora and assumed they were just taken from pop culture (I know Pandora's name originates elsewhere, but considering the popularity of the xenosmurfs movie...)
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:55 No.18719115
    Oh yeah, and by not-controversial, I ment anything not radical enough to bring down head from the =][=.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)01:55 No.18719120
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)01:56 No.18719129
    >>18719038 (CONT)
    >They see the Resistance AS liberators
    >"Local Arbites" means all Arbites in the Sector
    >I was referring to the Capitol system.

    You tell Malector about the idea, he seems highly enthusiastic but says he has to finish selling off all his questionable items before his "We won't send the Assassinorum after you" grace period.

    You don't know how to contact the Inquisition, much less especially Radical elements.

    Do you want to have a final meeting with the Resistance to settle the matter and give you your proposal, or meet your bodyguard first? Remember, in previous threads you said you wanted to see a demo of his abilities and run the idea past Davos (Resistance leader, experienced commander, and local Folk Hero) before the main meeting.


    Exactly, although the Ultramarine claim is extremely dubious at best (Previous Governor was negotiating joining the Ultramar Dominion, built statues to Rawbutt Girlyman that rapidly crumbled due to metal elements in the planets rain that the expensive imported stone was highly sensitive to. Ultramarines took this as an insult and cut off negotiations).
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)01:58 No.18719155
    >>planet name
    Sure poll the population first.

    I'll vote for any name that reflects the fact the Salamanders chose us as a chapter world. They should be honored for the strength they bring the planet and the sector
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:00 No.18719183
    Sallies successor. Don't think the Sallies themselves would move in from Nocturne, though the Iron Dragons are a chip off the old block to be sure.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:00 No.18719186
    Hence why I suggested Drachnia. For the Iron Dragons and the giant fossil they found dark age tech in.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)02:04 No.18719220

    What exactly does Drachnia mean? Google is giving me nothing but some WoW boss.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)02:05 No.18719230
    I abstain, I don't know enough about names to make an informed decision.

    Make streetwalking illegal but, sell licences to brothels to operate, and conduct quarterly checkups. Make protitution a legitimate profession if it isn't already.
    (Again, getting people off the street, and maybe bring in more revenue.)
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:06 No.18719234
    Some WoW boss? I just threw "draco" and "nia" together. Put a h in the middle and blam. Totally planet sounding.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:07 No.18719236
    Yeah, can't have those prostitutes skipping on their taxes.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:12 No.18719290

    Seems to me there are two types of planet namers so far. those who are looking real deep into their name's for lore and those who just throw some names out to get it done. These two conflict a bit and it makes slower going.

    In another aspect, can we prepare a diplomatic welcome for the smurfs? Gameroom said combat is highly unlikely but there will at least be heated negotiations, and we should minimize the damage done in astartes planetary relations by the confusion of their misinformed arrival.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:14 No.18719311
    There was a plan to do with this and making it very hard for them to declare us all heretics or leverage their political power. Checking archived thread.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:15 No.18719322
    Draco is latin for dragon...
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:15 No.18719327
    Can we get some yes or no votes on the speech with the resistance, incidentally? It's something we need to resolve and currently the only proposed solution.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)02:15 No.18719328
    Er Iron Dragons then. Just consider my vote a +1 to any Iron Dragons reference.

    Finish up talk with resistance first.

    >family reunion : future plan
    Since our focus is on a tourism economy, part of that is the Hospitality industry. So we should build a convention center/surrounding hotels. Let's make the hotels attractive for upperclass business travelers without being grandiose or elitist. And plan for our first convention to be our family reunion. So we have a fresh new buildings for our family that we then immediately can turn into profit making assets. Focus on security for business travelers with state of the art communication and financial connections for the convention center.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:16 No.18719331
    Thank you. It had been a while since I read the other threads and I wasn't sure of the exact course of action we had/should do.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:16 No.18719343
    The idea was about how to do something awesome that would take the legs out from under the Ultramarines' claim that we were a bunch of heretics, and it was explained as follows:

    The objections the Ultras have to us are twofold. First, we are allying ourselves with something outside their power structure in the Realm of Ultramar and the group in question (Sallies and successors) happens to be a bit of a political opponent for the Ultras. Second, tyranids and gene-stealers are a major fucking concern for the Ultras for obvious reasons.

    Once you strip away/adjust for the Ward faggotry, the Ultras are very roman. They invest in power, expand their domain, deal harshly with rivals, and try to incorporate everyone else like them (other chapters) into their culture and thus their power structure (accept rowboat as spiritual liege).

    Philosophically, that cultural structure fits into a broader one, however - Rowboat is one loyal primarch of nine, and the primarchs are sons of the emperor.

    What we need to do is create an incredibly obvious symbol of this and confront the Ultras with it, which will make accusations of heresy difficult and requests to favor their primarch less than apt on their part. We need to put them in a position wherein they would look bad politically pushing us either into the Realm of Ultramar or away from other spess marine chapters, without making them hate us for it.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)02:17 No.18719344

    Brothels are already a licensed business. Increase taxes, increase regulation, outlaw street-walking, or all three?

    Something I forgot to mention: You already have a local Amesac industry (Probably misspelling it), but importing different plants from off-world will probably bring in lucrative trade (Cost 5 C to import and grow plants, along with specialists to help grow them).

    Crime is very low and the homeless population is steadily decreasing with economic growth. Jack up penalties for petty crime in your capitol or planet-wide? -5 to Popularity if planet-wide, -2 if city-wide. -2 to Trust if planet-wide, no penalty for city-wide except for a slightly increased chance of Civil Unrest during difficult times.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)02:17 No.18719350
    But seriously, taking them off the street helps eliminate pimping (another non-taxable profession) and by having them work in safe conditions makes it better for them and their customers.

    Helps cut down on crime, brings in revenue, removes unslightly elements from the streets, increases public health and the like.

    Also legalize and tax any recreational drug that isn't dangerous, if any tax it.

    Send a message that we're helping root out crime and corruption and creating jobs.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:19 No.18719373

    To this end, we constructed huge statues of the Emperor and the nine loyalist primarchs around our palace, and put void shield emitters under the statue bases to form a shield over the palace as insurance.

    The Emperor is front and center and is the biggest statue. On his right is Rowboat, to appease the Ultras. On his left is Sanguinus, so they wouldn't get bitchy if we put Dorn or Russ or Vulkan there. Across from him is Vulcan, as a tribute to the Iron Dragons.

    If we weigh them down with gifts of adamantium or some relics of the old governor's (or weave them a battle standard/banner of adamantite strands or something), show them the progress on the genestealer cult, and ask them to commemorate an enormous statue of Rowboat when they land, while filming everything for the evening news, WITH as many munitorum/administratum officials on hand as possible, they're going to have to balance the political exposure and hospitality with their urge to call us all heretics and start shit. Plus we have a chunk of the Iron Dragons chapter hanging around to back us up.

    As such, get some astropaths to broadcast their arrival and subsequent news to the sector capital and the Segmentum Fortress at Kar Duniash, and get every remembrancer/media figure possible to cover the event.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:21 No.18719394
    >Increase taxes
    Not really necessary.
    >increase regulation
    Where it's sensible. Make sure the workers have to take regular health checks and make sure nobody is forced to do it.
    >outlaw street-walking
    I'd suggest having communities set up designated areas where it's allowed.

    >Jack up penalties for petty crime in your capitol or planet-wide?
    Nope. If we manage to get everybody proper jobs, petty crime should be low. And every person in jail is somebody who probably won't be able to do their job either.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:21 No.18719397
    Don't increase penalties, we're not getting reports of problematic behavior.
    Increase regulation only if there is corruption. Certainly create regulation for prostitution. Those who have to stoop to it shouldn't be running a risk of sexual assault, to whatever extent we can prevent it.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)02:23 No.18719416
    Voting for amasec improvements (5C).

    Try to negotiate with Families for bonds/long term investments in this to shave cost down a C or so
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:24 No.18719423
    Addendum: DECRIMINALIZE and tax any recreational drug, and use part of the revenues to ensure that the drugs are clean. Don't need heretical cults cutting that shit with poison or using it to screw with our citizenry and turn them to the ruinous powers.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)02:25 No.18719434
    Well crap, outlaw streetwalking and pimping, provide incentives and information for brothels.
    I totally reccomend improving our Amasec production, we've got a LOT of unused land, let's put it to good use.

    Rather than just increasing punishments, how about we create information centers. Create an information and promotional ad campaign detailing its virtues and uses (Free food and lodgings, free job training!)

    Also lets start recruiting heavily for the PDF amognst the lower income neighbourhoods, desperate people are more likely to sign up, extoll the benifits of working for the PDF, free education, gov't benefits and the like.

    Since these people are so freaking reactionary with anything negative, let's bombard them with positive crap, if they refuse the stick, we'll shove so many carrots down their throat that they'll choke.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:26 No.18719438

    sounds good
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:30 No.18719486
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    How about implementing some kind of youth organisation?

    -Have them offer various activities for the children including military training and internships in various government organisations.
    -Organise yearly visits to the capital and the governor's palace.
    -Hold some kind of olympic games equivalent in the capital every few years for the members to compete in various fields. Have Elyssa chair the whole thing.
    -Offer the chance to join on excursions for the children of poorer families.
    -Have the most promising members meet the governor, spend a week in palace or something like that.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)02:32 No.18719498
    I'm against this myself, trying too hard to appease them might give them a sense of entitlement and might increase their resovle, prepare a warm welcome and offer some minor gifts is okay, but I don't think we should bend over backwards for them.

    I'm aginst streetwalking myself, not only is it so popular because they don't have any alternate, but it's more dangerous to them, exposed to the weather and harder to monitor/protect them.

    Brothels offer a safe, warm place to work, protected against the elements and anyone who might take advantage of themselves, streetwalking seems to be an uneeded risk, and would be harder to tax.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)02:35 No.18719529
    I vote yes, those resistance members are being a huge thorn in our sides, we might as well give them some more stuff to get them on our side.

    Make it a publicised event though, doing this could give us a bunch of good plublicity.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)02:36 No.18719537

    You do not have the funds for anything except maybe a fancy necklace right now (2 C in Treasury). Although the Iron Dragons may be willing to help pay for >>18719486 if you work a recruitment ad for them in there somewhere.


    You already have several native species of recreational herb, and nearly a dozen more were imported by you along with the other medicinal and edible herbs and plants you bought from the RT. None are dangerous except for a local Meth-equivalent that is in very low circulation and is already illegal. None of these plants are regulated and all are in wide circulation, if you try to tax them it would both piss of your population (-25 Pop, -10 Trust) but since both the police and PDF are locals after Rodoris' off-planet enforcers were kicked off most of the population will simply ignore it, confident in the fact that you would have to import hundreds of thousands of mercenaries or one Hell of a lot of hard-ass Arbites and Commissars to actually enforce it.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:37 No.18719541
    Hey, guys, listen...if you want to develop your social programs, that's cool with me but you may have missed something.

    We have LESS TRUST than a fucking dictator, and the Resistance has far more than we do, and we're still nowhere near a resolution with them.

    I'm thinking if we actually settle that, we might get a lot more friendship from the citizenry.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)02:38 No.18719553
    For the record supporting Editor's speech and ideas to the resistance vis a vis Xenos weaponry.
    Voting against additional crime penalties city and post wide because that would increase unrest. Our next big goal is to avoid a civil war.

    If you gents could opine for/against some of my ideas:
    >Week of celebration against tyranids for SoB (tyranid shark week)
    >scanning moon
    >build convention center in preparation for Family Reunion

    Much appreciated gents
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:38 No.18719559
    >trying hard to appease them

    No, that would be letting them have the planet as part of Ultramar.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)02:40 No.18719576
    >You already have several native species of recreational herb, and nearly a dozen more were imported by you along with the other medicinal and edible herbs and plants you bought from the RT. None are dangerous except for a local Meth-equivalent that is in very low circulation and is already illegal. None of these plants are regulated and all are in wide circulation, if you try to tax them it would both piss of your population (-25 Pop, -10 Trust) but since both the police and PDF are locals after Rodoris' off-planet enforcers were kicked off most of the population will simply ignore it, confident in the fact that you would have to import hundreds of thousands of mercenaries or one Hell of a lot of hard-ass Arbites and Commissars to actually enforce it.

    ...Why not make the non-horrible recreational drugs and sell them yourselves, as part of your pharmaceutical industry?
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)02:42 No.18719591
    >If you gents could opine for/against some of my ideas:
    >Week of celebration against tyranids for SoB (tyranid shark week)
    Yes, as soon as we have some tax money to spend on something for the people.
    >scanning moon
    Very yes.
    >build convention center in preparation for Family Reunion
    If we don't already have anything suitable in our touristy capital or inherited from the last guy...yes.
    Much appreciated gents
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)02:44 No.18719610
    Dammit, these local populace are so freaking entitled to everything, is there anything we can tax without our populace khorne-raging over?

    Let's bring the Iron Dragons into the youth organization, this'll help our ties with them as well!

    >Tourism economy
    I think we can do this, but remember, this planet is 10% larger than earths, and less than half the population, we have a LOT of room to work around with (Especially since the population density of Imperial cities seems to resmble downtown Tokyo on steroids rather than rural Idaho.)

    Honestly I think the planet should be a genreral planet, we've got a *lot* of room, so we should have enough space for tourism, agriculture, AND industry.)
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)02:50 No.18719667
    Frankly, our populace are assholes, we come in, do a whirlwind of activity and rebuilding, and rather than be optimistic about thechanges of the new regieme, they think we're going to convert to Chaos any second.

    I'm assuming our pharma company isn't selling anything already patented at competive prices, if we aren't, why the hell aren't we?

    Also nobody's voting for increased punishments, not even me, see >>18719434 >>18719434
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)02:52 No.18719683
    Our populace are the abused bunch of individualists that threw off the yoke of the Tau without help from the Imperium and then got a shit governor.

    You wouldn't necessarily warm up to the new guy after that either.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)02:55 No.18719714

    As was mentioned in the previous thread, if you want to go into business for yourself you might piss off the Families (Who may be even more suspicious of you than anyone else) if said business is government-owned. Dividing your personal funds and the government Treasury into two separate accounts and going into the Private Sector as an individual will not only avoid this, but might actually increase popularity and make the Families less suspicious (Whoever thought of that in the last thread was brilliant, by the way). The only problem is that you will be unable to transfer money from the Treasury into your Personal account without a risk of massive popularity and trust loss, although doing the reverse to fund public works and projects will increase your popularity slightly. It will also draw a clearly defined line between "Government Property" and "Von Braun Property".

    In case you haven't noticed, the population trusts you about as far as they can throw you right now, and even then they have a very Libertarian ideology and will just ignore the shit out of what they see as over-reaching laws.

    Now that you mention it, the population density of Daysimir is MUCH more like rural Idaho than Tokyo (Closest comparison I have is Alaska pretty much everywhere with more even population distribution).
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)02:57 No.18719740
    Considering the amount of impovement we've done in such a short period of time, you'd think they'd be slightly less hostile to everything we do.

    Hell I wouldn't be suprised if they're Khorne worshippers with the amount of rage we seem to get from them.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)03:01 No.18719763
    Wait, I thought we already started with the private companies plan last thread? If we don't, I wholeheartedly am behind it.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:03 No.18719780
    >Dividing funds
    A good idea. Just make it so that every good idea we implement, such as the orbital trade, continues paying royalties to us.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)03:05 No.18719785
    They aren't really "raging" at you, they are just very, very wary after the first Imperial Governor in over a generation was such a colossal fuckup. As long as the Resistance are still waiting to see if you try to start shit they are going to keep on their toes due to the constant threat of civil war, with the Iron Dragons being a massive X-Factor that nobody is really sure of. Until you find some kind of reconciliation with the Resistance they will view you as a potential enemy.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:08 No.18719812
    Guys lets just chill about the trust issues. Since we have no money lets wait till the ultras are here.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:12 No.18719852

    The idea of inspecting public utilities (which was Rohan's) wasn't bad.

    Trade Advisory Legislator was the one that came out and said something about separating public and private dealings on the Governor's part, though he did so with very strange phrasing. I think this is pretty cool.

    I may have been the one to suggest openly trading shares on a stock market.

    I think we ought to do the following.

    As Governor:

    Create an agency that works to inspect public utilities (test water tables, well-water, and so forth for toxins or worse, test generators for maintenance issues) and create policies that will allow said agency to maintain public utilities and public goods should private owners be unable to. This can range from minor EPA-style interests in maintaining the environment to keep water clean all the way up to court cases and fees and serious infringement if some privately owned hospital's generator dies twice in one week.

    Policy should exist to allow the government to sieze control/buy out privately owned utility companies should they exhibit failure to provide what they claim to be selling to their customers, turn the companies around, and sell them back to private citizens or trade their stock on a stock exchange while retaining a controlling 51% ownership share. This will prevent the Enron-style blackouts sort of thing that was mentioned earlier.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:13 No.18719859


    Another agency (like the Better Business Bureau or something) should exist to turn any given company around on a more voluntary basis - if someone comes to the government and asks for intervention and retraining and so forth, we can teach them how not to suck at running a business. Possibly in exchange for a certain number of shares of stock in the business over time for the government to do with as it pleases (probably just sell 'em off for a profit when the business can run again).

    And separate the treasury, maybe selling off any private assets you may hold, to endow Von Braun Holdings.

    As a private citizen:

    Assume your position as owner/chairman/CEO/etc of Von Braun Holdings and investigate where you can create companies and enterprises that the citizenry won't hate you for.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:13 No.18719861
    Or we could talk with Davos about our ideas for weapon management. Then go to a meeting with the guerrilla members.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)03:14 No.18719866

    I thought we didn't get around to that, might be wrong.


    Divide 1 C to Personal Account (PA) and 1 C to Treasury. Your possessions from your Navy days are yours, along with the Trade Fleet, Valkyrie, the Xenos Helm, and bodyguard. Everything else is now technically Government property. You can donate from PA to Treasury at any time and gain a small Pop bonus if you do so regularly, you can also do the reverse at the risk of an embezzling scandal.

    Meet with Resistance to hammer out agreement, then time-skip to Ultra Arrival and next Tax Collection, or meet your new Bodyguard first?
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:14 No.18719878
    Until you find some kind of reconciliation with the Resistance they will view you as a potential enemy.

    We have some votes for the offer of benefits and speech mentioned earlier, and we were going to mention it to the leader of the Resistance first and ask him if it was a good idea.

    I vote we timeskip to the meeting with him.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)03:16 No.18719894
    Meet with Davos to ask about agreement, tweak it as needed, meet with Resistance.

    Time to get this sorted already.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:18 No.18719915
    Bodygaurd then resistance and timeskip.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)03:19 No.18719921
    I thought we already implimented the failure buyout program?

    I'm against selling of shares myself, selling shares means that we'll start having to pay out dividends and the like, having a soley-government owned comany would mean that all the profit would go straight into the treasury.

    Do we have a government runn lottery? We can divert some of the profits to public works projects, and the rest can go into our treasury (And we can advertise how well the lottery is doing for the community, too!)
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)03:22 No.18719956
    Timeskip please, we can't really do much with our treasury depleted.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)03:23 No.18719962
    >I thought we already implimented the failure buyout program?
    >I'm against selling of shares myself, selling shares means that we'll start having to pay out dividends and the like, having a soley-government owned comany would mean that all the profit would go straight into the treasury.

    We can also buy the shares ourselves and sell them to the Von Braun dynasty. However, let's recall that when a company that is 51% owned by the government sells shares, the government still gets 51% of payouts.

    Any profit we may lose by selling shares for initial investment we more than make up for in volume once this gets rolling.

    Also, the idea is NOT to own these companies forever. This is catch and release for a slew of reasons that we have already covered, like not getting lynched. It is LIMITED interventionism.
    >Do we have a government runn lottery? We can divert some of the profits to public works projects, and the rest can go into our treasury (And we can advertise how well the lottery is doing for the community, too!)
    We've mentioned getting one before, and it certainly wouldn't go against our whole Vegas kick with tourism complemented by gambling halls in our capital.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:25 No.18719976
    >I'm against selling of shares myself, selling shares means that we'll start having to pay out dividend

    No, it does not. At least in the real world it doesn't.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)03:27 No.18719992
    I did fail to mention that the owner sets the profit compensation and share structure. Thank you, helpful anon.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)03:27 No.18719997

    You will do this once you have the funds.


    You take your proposal to Davos. He thinks quietly for a then speaks:

    "This does sound attractive, so long as it's just the Tau weaponry you're talking about. Most of them are just old trophies, very few are still kept as serious weapons. Although many would prefer it if their children could inherit their weapons without fused firing-signal amplifiers, and I can see the whole "Xenos Taint on their Souls" thing not going over well with some people."
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)03:29 No.18720006
    To clarify all of my ideas (including voting to invest in amasec production for 5c) i support to be done in turns only when we have the money. I'm just suggesting plans to best prepare for known future events.

    Vote to meet with resistance using Editors plan about Xenos guns-scholarships and his speech.

    Then talk to gladiator

    Then skip to next income tax
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)03:32 No.18720035
    >To clarify all of my ideas (including voting to invest in amasec production for 5c) i support to be done in turns only when we have the money. I'm just suggesting plans to best prepare for known future events.

    Pretty much took the words right out of my mouth.
    Fine let's go with the shares, if we have ourselves as a major investor we'd be funneling quite a bit of funds into our personal coffers, we should look into doing this for any failure buyout programs, too.

    Let's hurry this show on and get to the money.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)03:34 No.18720062
    Remove Xenos Taint thing, make fusing firing mechanism voluntary, reward exchanging xenos weapons for Imperial ones. Paragraph will now read:

    “Finally, should the weapon be of impure make and thus a weapon of desperation taken up by resistance veterans to defend their world, we would ask that the firing mechanism be disabled at the end of the veteran’s life, and that the weapon be enshrined as appropriate. This may also ensure that the veteran’s descendants are above suspicion from offworld authorities, which may blight the brave spirits of those that threw off the yoke of the Tau in the time of need. This will be voluntary, but we will give you the incentive of a greater arsenal given in exchange - as much as we are able - as we feel it will benefit you far more to have something that may give your descendants opportunity to forge new tales to be passed down the generations. We will give you greater arms for the next crisis, arms that will not have anyone hewed down by a supposed relief force from deep within the Imperium, if you but lay to rest the arms you needed when things were at their worst when you go to meet your fates.”
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:38 No.18720102
    >Let's hurry this show on and get to the money
    >hurry this show

    personally I kinda want to play politics instead of talking about treasury units and stock all night so how about we actually do that at least once in this quest session?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)03:42 No.18720149
    >For a minute

    "Regarding other Xenos weapons, well, I'm sure you've heard the rumors about relations between former Resistance and the Eldar, and there are still a few old Spike Carbines and Shred-Net launchers left over from when Daysimir was a Frontier World and nobody cared if the merchants were Imperial or Kraan, I believe the planet was named "Traders Folly" back then, as the first high-tech inhabitants in over a thousand years were Void-Pirates. Anyway, back to the point, it is the belief of the Resistance that it's a good idea to have an unknown number of unknown weapons of unknown capability in the hands of an unknown number of hardened Guerrilla keeps Governments polite, especially with Astartes living next door. Aside from that, any hypothetical trade between the Resistance and the Eldar would, hypothetically, mostly constitute of minor trinkets and art, and such hypothetical contact would be infrequent."

    "Aside from that, I believe we have an agreement that suits both our needs."


    "That works much better, it seems you have a gift for Public Relations. If I might ask a small favor of you though, it would put a lot of people at ease if you took "Heresy" off the books as a Death-Penalty crime, considering how incredibly vague and broad it is and how much potential for abuse exists there. I don't think it'll bring down Inquisitorial attention on its own so long as Chaos-Worship and the like are covered separately, which they already are"
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:46 No.18720199
    >Taking Heresy out of the books

    "You know entire planets get virus bombed from orbit, left to rot for a few hundred years and then repopulated again for such things, right?
    For once you'll have to trust me, something I myself had to do quite a lot since I arrived here."
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)03:51 No.18720245
    >Response? Anyone still here?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)03:53 No.18720269
    Nothing really to say, I agree with >>18720199 100%.

    I kinda want to advance the plot to see the results from the last thread 2 weeks ago.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:54 No.18720276

    "That unfortunately is not one of my laws. Its actually Imperium-wide. That law was made by the Inquisiton for the Inquisition... and the Commissars. I'm sorry but for this matter my hands are tied."
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)03:55 No.18720279
    "You do realize I'm trying to keep the Ecclesiarchy pleased here, yes? Because we have the Sisters of Battle visiting, the Sons of Gulliman coming by to accuse us of whatever they want, and the Inquisition due any old time now? But yes, we can lower the penalty to something other than death. Arco-flagellation and the like is in line with tradition, not to mention disenfranchisement or public stoning or whatever else you do to embezzlers or rather serious frauds or corrupt officials, and we can simply cede detection and punishment of certain kinds of heresy to more appropriate parties like the newly adopted Promethean cults on-world. However, in some areas we will retain it if only because not doing so will look less than equitable should the Arbites send a Judge here to wave about the Lex Imperialis and execute anyone that gets in the way of 'restructuring the planetary legal code.' More than that, I shall have to consult my advisors on."
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)03:55 No.18720280
    Yes I'm waiting for something to comment on.

    Also agree with this guy.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)03:55 No.18720289
    I forgot to mention an hour from now is about the time our ISP takes down the internet for maintenece, it might be the same for them now. (Insert crazy ass asian shrugging emoticon here)
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)03:57 No.18720296
    "And you can go trade for your hypothetical dangerous trinkets all you like, but for the sake of appearances if nothing else I'll at least know what the Resistance had at the time of the war of liberation with the Tau. This is a measure to document SOMETHING and a demonstration of trust, and entirely voluntary - but I answer to the Priesthood of Terra and they will want at least some reason not to put the lot of you to the torch. I'm of a mind to put the offer on the table, take it or leave it, and if a blind eye were turned towards the acquisition of new arms, so be it - but note that those individuals will be beyond my help if the Ordo Hereticus comes calling."

    "And remember, this isn't registration, the hands in which the weapons reside are not to be known to the government, and we will not track whatever else you do have if it was not used in the War of Liberation. So: take it or leave it on the guns, and let's get on with making this world safe from all the threats we know we face."
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)03:58 No.18720311
    How about drafting into a penal legion?
    That's pretty much a death sentence in and of itself.

    Dead men shoot no xenos.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)03:58 No.18720313

    They're not asking for that, they're asking that the Planetary Government not execute people for it. They know you can't control the Ecclesiarchy, Space Marines, Inquisition, etc, etc.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)04:00 No.18720333
    >If I might ask a small favor of you though, it would put a lot of people at ease if you took "Heresy" off the books as a Death-Penalty crime,
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)04:00 No.18720336
    >resistance speech
    >now this
    I reccomend appointing this guy as our press secretary.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)04:02 No.18720351
    Just to clarify:
    -Planetary Government cedes on-world detection of and punishment for heresy to religious people in faith-related cases if the people want and retains non-lethal punishments in secular cases.

    -We learn what weapons were used in the resistance's struggle to free the world of the Tau, turn a blind eye to the aquisition of new xenotech which may include arms (for now, anyway), and tell those that want to play with wraithbone pistols or whatever the fuck else that if the =][= comes calling we don't know anything about them.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)04:05 No.18720368
    I'm saying, assume he's not an idiot and that 'the books' he's referring to are the books of law YOUR GOVERNMENT is able to write/modify.

    Besides, you could always execute a heretic for a different charge: 'convicted of heresy' could just be a generic investigation-opener, you convict them of heresy and then you add on whatever specifically they did, which may warrant the execution.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)04:06 No.18720381
    I'm not sure if you understand 40k in that aspect. Heresy is, at least in most cases, not about disagreeing with the ecclesiarchy that the Emperor was awesome and grand, instead of grand and awesome.

    It's a crime against the Emperor, the Imperium and mankind itself.

    I don't really want to get into a discussion with any kind of imperial official why we took the crime of heresy out of our books. And I doubt we'd even get the chance to explain.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)04:07 No.18720389
    Couldn't you just substitute every charge of heresy with treason?
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)04:08 No.18720394
    Keep heresy on the books as a category, not a specific charge.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)04:09 No.18720405

    He smiles and raises his hands in a defensive gesture:

    "I'm not asking you to deny Heresy as an Imperial law, I'm asking you to remove the LOCAL one. Right now, in the Daysimir law-book, is a crime referred to as "Heresy", which refers to anything that the Planetary Governor or "Any of his officials" deems to be Heresy. Punishment is execution. No trial required. If we just follow the official Imperial Law, you can outlaw anything too bad *under* Heresy while not have anything and everything that could be defined as "Heresy", from disobeying an Imperial Official, to protesting something that Imperial Official did, to weakening the Imperial presence on the planet by calling out an important official on some kind of corruption, to Xenos fraternization, to philosophically debating the Emperors divinity, being a death sentence. Hell, the Promethean Cult is technically Heretical as the Emperor isn't at the center of it all, but I don't see the Inquisition hounding the Salamanders. I'm not asking you to defy the Ecclesiarchy, I'm just concerned about street cops having Arbites-level authority."

    "It's not really that important anyway, there hasn't been an execution or charge for Heresy since the week Rodoris first took charge."
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)04:12 No.18720431
    Some thoughts:
    Establishing a better business bureau and a government EPA-like group to maintain infrastructure are very good ideas.

    >issue of current low trust
    I think a majority of the issue is just time. Eventually the population will come around.

    Immediate issues:
    -we understand your desire to maintain an unknown number of weapons for personal security and ultimately as a bulwark for your self determination. Understand -our- main concern is human dependance on a Xenos power. Xenos firearms require ammo and maintenance, both of which cannot be supplied by human sources and shackle you to the economics of a Xenos power. Since you cannot make them yourselves reliance on a Xenos make firearm ultimately undermines your self sufficency and independence...which was the point of an armed populous in the first place, yes?

    Honestly this would be less of an issue if instead of elder weapons you had an unknown number of human pattern weapons from a hypothetical 'rival' human empire.

    Food for thought.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)04:14 No.18720444
    >What heresy is
    This breaks down into preconceptions of 40K, which is not where we're going to need to go.

    We're not taking it out of our books, we are agreeing that as a matter of procedure it will not be the crime people are convicted of when the penalty is death. The guy's asking for it to not be used as the vehicle for which people will be killed.

    We're a semi-democratic government with a capable police force. We can simply structure local laws differently. It will still be on the books, it will simply be policy that capital crimes must include a conviction of something other than mere heresy - that a conviction of heresy LEAD TO the investigation that creates a capital conviction.

    If anything, we'd look MORE vigilant in the eyes of the Imperium. We don't just kill heretics - we find out EXACTLY what the nature of their crime was first.

    Doesn't interfere with the Ecclesiarchy, Arbite, Space Marine, or Inquisition in terms of THEIR ability to execute heretics, which is where I think you're getting left behind. Their authority supercedes local laws, as they are Imperium-wide organizations and we will be unlikely to oppose them if they're doing something useful and they'll be unlikely to go on a rampage IF HANDLED PROPERLY.

    Meaning: cool your jets, we're not promising them anything more than exactly what we ourselves can do AND IT WILL MAKE US LOOK BETTER, NOT WORSE.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)04:15 No.18720454
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    Sure whatever, let the Adeptus Arbites handle any allegations of REAL Heresy, and let local law enforcement handle stuff that doesn't bring everything crashing down on our heads.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)04:21 No.18720495
    Concur w/ editor
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)04:21 No.18720499
    >If anything, we'd look MORE vigilant in the eyes of the Imperium. We don't just kill heretics - we find out EXACTLY what the nature of their crime was first.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)04:23 No.18720520
    >Change local heresy law
    Done. We can totally live with this.

    New policies:
    Any charge of heresy is only sufficient for a suspect to be brought in for questioning.
    Questioning will be reviewed by internal affairs and must be reviewed by juries if the suspect is held for trial.
    No charge of heresy is sufficient to suspend trial.
    No charge of heresy is sufficient for a capital punishment at sentencing.
    Charges of heresy may be pressed by any officer of government working in an executive capacity or to enforce laws.
    Suspicion of heresy may be used for an officer to procure written permission to enter, search, and seize private property, but charges unsubstantiated within a given timeframe will force release of all seized property.
    Assault on citizens or damage to private property occurring under an unsubstantiated heresy charge will be made right by the local government at the precinct level.

    Let the administrators quibble over the phrasing for a while and seal the deal.

    >hypothetical 'rival' human empire
    We kind of had a policy of integrating/converting them at the sword under the Emperor in the Great Crusade.

    But agree with the rest, excellent points.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)04:27 No.18720555

    "To clarify: Chaos Worship, Rebellion, harboring of Chaos Artifacts, etc are all already illegal. Hell, I don't mind if you just replace one law labelled "Heresy with another, just so long as it doesn't give you and anyone working for you Carte Blanche to execute anyone you want for any reason you want without a trial as long as you say the executed were Heretics. I recommended that you read some of the laws we have here, Infrastructure is great and all, but knowing how your legal system works and the basics of local law is also important."

    "While we're on the subject I would just like to say that you must not know much about Guerrilla tactics. If you did, then you would have to be absolutely insane to think that an entire Guerrilla force would have their supply lines dependent on an ammunition and weapons source that can be totally and irreversibly cut off with a well-placed Lance Strike and an orbital blockade with half-decent Auspexes. And on the bit about maintenance, I'd suggest you not make assumptions. Regarding manufacturing new ammo, a lot closer to the nail, but I still wouldn't make assumptions."
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)04:28 No.18720562
    Sure why not, now all we need is CSI 40k and we're good to go.

    Timeskip? Or do we have anything else left to do?
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)04:29 No.18720571

    >Inquisitor, we executed a million heretics.

    >Inquisitor, we executed a hundred thousand corrupt officials who had their hands in the public purse, a cult of chaos-worshipers three hundred thousand strong, fifty thousand PDF deserters, one hundred and fifty thousand employees of a house that was engaged in the crime of industrial reverse-engineering and risked chaos possession of the tanks they were building because they heavily deviated from STC design, and four hundred thousand smugglers and mercenaries a rich noble was using to run xeno artifacts and alien drugs up and down the continent in his own private cold trade distribution network.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)04:33 No.18720593
    > a cult of chaos-worshipers three hundred thousand strong

    BRB, exterminatus on your planet. -][-

    But really, do what you want. You have the GM's ear.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)04:35 No.18720613
    Just damage control for looking dumb. Should be quick.

    "Very well - you have exposed me as a former naval captain and neither a general nor a logistics officer. I will endeavor to turn my attention to reforming the legal code further in the near future now that we have begun to stabilize the political situation and killed the aliens under the capital, not to mention fixed the roads and all the rest."

    "For now I will ask if the offer is acceptable and offer you and your confederates handshakes, somewhere to sign some names, the first of these writs, and rapid transport home if we're done clearing tunnels. The administrators and legislators can quibble with you over any small print in the next few weeks, but this is the gist of things as I see them. What say you?"
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)04:35 No.18720615
    What the fucking hell is wrong with this guy?

    We give better equipment from rifles to tanks to an army we can not trust to be loyal to us in the least and he keeps on threatening us.
    We improve the infrastructure, increase the medical standard in do everything to raise trade opportunities and he just keeps on being an asshole.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)04:37 No.18720636
    I don't think he's threatening us, though he IS taking us to school on ground combat and logistics 101.

    We're an ex-navy brat talking to a resistance fighter who fought a jungle war to keep his homeworld free about how his guns are undermining his force's fighting readiness and he's like 'no, newbie, it's not really like that.'

    No threats.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)04:40 No.18720653
    -exterminatus on a cult that's not even a percent of the population of a hive city

    An underhive gang could prolly take that cult in a fight.

    All in a day's work in the -][- I guess. Waste those virus bombs, bro, not like they're made in limited quantity or anything...
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)04:47 No.18720708

    He gives you his best Diplomatic smile, although the scars on his face makes it look only a little different from the smiles you got from many a "Gentleman" Void-Pirate in your Navy days.

    "I did not mean to insult your intelligence, my Lady, in fact, if you are interested, I could supply you with materials to help you learn more on the subject. Or, if you wish, I could teach you myself. However, I am quite lacking in conventional warfare knowledge, hopefully your new Military Academy will help correct this."

    "Aside from that, I believe that we have come to a quite satisfactory agreement." He raises a flask and pours some whiskey into a small glass taken from a hidden pocket with the expertise of a seasoned street magician: "I propose a toast, to future relations free of political tension, threats, and Genestealers."
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)04:53 No.18720739
    >Action, Governor?
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)04:54 No.18720748
    Produce another glass if he hasn't got one, but take his whiskey as a sign of trust.

    "I'll accept the offer of further military education and the libation with it, and I rather think I'll end up attending lectures you'll be giving on light infantry warfare at the new academy - when you get tired of the farm or whatnot. To a better tomorrow, and salvation through will - whether that of Him on Terra, who is ever a good example, or our own - and to the annual week of celebrations I will inaugurate to celebrate your victory over the alien once again, for the service you have all done this world and its government here under our capital."

    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)04:54 No.18720750
    Here's an idea, ask if he's willing to teach at the Officer's Academy lessions for conducting unconventional warfare.

    This shows the that we place our trust in the Resistance and we get our officers a thorough grounding in a field they might be lacking in.

    If news of the arrangement were to 'leak' to the media, so much the better.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)04:56 No.18720764
    Naturally he gets all the benefits of an instructor as long as he's working there of course (Salary, gov't employee benefits, the works.)
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)04:56 No.18720765
    Definitely take him up on that offer and bow out gracefully as Editor wrote emphasizing we respect his ability as a military commander and at gurella war, but our focus is more global and sector wide including economic self reliance and concern for populations exposure to possible taint.

    Really our focuses are different but not incompatible.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)04:57 No.18720770
    That was me, in case I'm our current designated dialogue-writefag.

    Incidentally, can you tell us our new trust and popularity scores after news of all this has been announced? I hope the resistance veteran's benefits are taken well by the populace.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)04:59 No.18720780
    >not incompatible
    Nicely spotted there.

    This is why we offered him a place in the upper echelons of government quite a while back in like thread two or something IIRC.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)04:59 No.18720783
    2:00am here, don't be suprised if I stop responding for awhile, that'll be my ISP taking the network down for maintenence.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)05:00 No.18720791
    Good idea
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)05:03 No.18720815
    Already dropped the hint. Was thinking of getting quite a few Resistance guys jobs there, really.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)05:06 No.18720842
    Sorry, I tend to skim through rhetoric.
    Not your fault, I'm more of a numbers and blunt statments kinda guy myself.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)05:08 No.18720859

    He smiles again, you notice that most of his front teeth are artificial, but the rest have apparently been excellently taken care of:

    "I was going to ask you later about having some of my officers teach at this Academy, and I'm honored that you would give me such a high position. While I wouldn't make a career of it, I would be willing to instruct them for a few months, or however long it takes to get the current Officers Corps up to speed. While we're on the subject, I was also thinking of re-organizing some of the Ex-Resistance that are willing to join the PDF or Guard into a Spec Ops Corps, since I think their talents would wasted as troops-of-the-line. I understand the Imperium, for the most part, lacks such a force, save for the odd specialized Stormtrooper or Guard Regiment."

    "Another thing I was wondering about was your offer of a Government position, I believe I could be of service regarding military matters, after training in conventional warfare of course, and as an adviser regarding the history, factions, and political Climate of Daysimir, if the offer still stands.

    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)05:13 No.18720893
    Yes to the sappers/gurella unit

    Yes to him

    After this scene (whenever) talk to gladiator
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)05:13 No.18720895
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)05:15 No.18720907
    I'm thinking Y. His working title can be Special Advisor, so long as that doesn't piss off any of your current underlings too much.

    We'll develop something more specific for him later.

    He can have some quarters in the palace/administrative complex and all the benefits of being a military instructor mentioned by Rohan here >>18720764 and we'll extend the latter to his fellows that'll teach at the academy.

    What do you guys think?

    And it'd be cool to get those trust/popularity numbers when you have a chance and then mutant/timeskip.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)05:24 No.18720989

    "Thank you my Lady, you do me an honor. Now, to more serious business: Alcohol."

    You drink, within seconds you start to feel strange, your vision begins to fade. You hear Davos saying something but it sounds muffled and distant, you can't make it out.

    You fall to the ground, right before you slip into unconsciousness you see him leaning over you. You make out one final sentence:

    "My apologies, Governor."
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)05:27 No.18721004
    Let me guess, the bodyguard hasn't been delivered yet, right?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)05:27 No.18721007
    >Forgot half my post.

    You awake in a strange room, it is small, with walls of grey Ferrocrete, and featureless except for your bed, the door, and a security camera.

    There are voices from down the hall.

    >Action, Governor?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)05:28 No.18721015
    Don't we have like a bunch of Elite PDF with Hotshots and Carapace as bodyguards?
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)05:29 No.18721025
    Davos What the Hell!
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)05:29 No.18721028
    Do we have our archaeotech pistol or any other fun devices hidden on us? Any means of communication?

    If not, indicate to our captors that we're awake if we have no means of escape.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)05:30 No.18721039
    >"My apologies, Governor."

    How nice of him. Just like you guys said, he's relly swell, isn't he? We should try to crawl up his ass just a little bit further.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)05:31 No.18721044
    >They're not assholes, they just have trust issues.
    >Bend over backwards and give them everything they want
    >Still betrayed.
    Frankly, our populace are assholes.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)05:31 No.18721046
    Go to bed and have a nap. This just isn't our day.
    If we can't sleep, do push ups or something like that until we can.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)05:36 No.18721066
    So let's make them our assholes.

    If the Resistance doesn't knock off their stupid hazing sometime soon, we'll just have to burn a few of them to atoms.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)05:37 No.18721084
    >didn't buy digi weapon


    Also betting either Xenos takeover or we failed some inquisitor test
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)05:38 No.18721097
    Honestly I wouldn't be suprised if we're sacrificed to the ruinous powers.

    Fuck that.
    >Commit Suicide
    >Govener vanishes after talking with resistance leader
    >Iron Dragons get fet up with this redneck bullshit.
    >Takes control of planet, PURGE THE HERETIC
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)05:38 No.18721098

    Your bodyguards are still being trained. Stormtrooper-level takes time. It seems that, in hindsight, you might have been prudent to invest in some more mundane bodyguards until they were trained.

    You have your Navy Saber and Plasma Pistol on your belt, which is hanging on a bedpost. Both seem to be in working order. You also have an emergency signal beacon, but you neglected to recharge it with your new position and so many worries, and it's effectively useless.

    It strikes you as very odd that any kidnapper with half the experience or common sense Davos has would leave you armed and with a functional but currently disabled signal beacon.

    The door is a simple push door, no locks are in evidence.

    The voices outside grow louder, some sound familiar. You think you recognize the voices of Chapter Master Ar'kryn and several other Marines.

    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)05:40 No.18721113
    rolled 3 = 3

    What. The. Fuck.
    I roll to wake up from this fucked up dream.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)05:40 No.18721119
    If we can make it work, charge the beacon with the power source of our navy pistol. Nobody'll know it's unable to fire.

    Step outside the door, look around.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)05:41 No.18721125
    Put the equipment back on, open the door and investigate.

    "Oh, Chapter Master - it's so nice to see you here. I take it your drinks were spiked as well?"

    Assholes, every single one of them.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)05:42 No.18721133
    Make ourselves look respectable, grab our gear and walk out of the door. Best see what all the noise is able in a casual manner.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)05:43 No.18721147
    >Cue failed mission as some civilian made us rewrite imperial law
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)05:46 No.18721175
    rolled 11 = 11

    If this is anything hostile, I say we go Lu Bu on everything.
    I would rather die than sign anything by swordpoint.
    If they try to coerce us into anything, we attack Davos, if he's not nearby, anyone important/vulnerable.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)05:51 No.18721222
    Full femshep renegade mode
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)05:54 No.18721261

    You don't have the technical knowledge to do this. Even if you did, fucking with the power cell of an Archaneotech Plasma Pistol sounds like a great way for most of your skull to wind up drifting into the air vents in a fine powder.

    You walk into the hallway, you see hundreds of doors stretching off into the distance, each with a number on it.

    The group approaching you is composed of several members of your Staff, the Chapter Master and his commanders minus the Fire Priest, along with Davos, Malector, the Munitorum representative, and several PDF troops.

    Behind them is a massive, hulking thing resembling a humanoid toad with a mouth bristling with razor-sharp teeth. It wears a set of Flak Armor obviously designed for a somewhat smaller Ogryn and carries a pair of well-cared-for Scimitars on its belt and a Heavy Bolter slung across its back. It's skin is scaly and thick, sleek enough to shine in the light. It looks almost like dried snakeskin.


    The group stops, then your statement gains chuckles from most of the group, except for your Staff and the PDF troops. Davos seems almost embarrassed.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)05:57 No.18721287
    Explanation. Now Davos.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)05:58 No.18721300
    Time to get gubernatorial.

    "I think I will dispense with greetings. Someone owes me a report, lest I ask my personal bodyguard to lethally violate the trust I have worked long to established with my newly hired advisor. What has been done bears explaining, I think."
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:00 No.18721309
    "Well, gentlemen, I'm glad you find that so incredibly amusing but I'm waiting for an explanation. And in your interest I hope it's going to be a good one. Because if it isn't, you'll have to look for a new governor willing to waste his time on the constant headache this planet has turned out to be."
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)06:01 No.18721319
    Fuck that, if anyone tries pulling any bullshit, we shoot him and say "Kidnapping a Govoner is a capital offence.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:01 No.18721325
    Belay that. I don't think threatening to quit your job's going to strike anyone as worthy of respect. You're their boss, not the other way around.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:02 No.18721340
    Really? Haven't noticed it so far.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)06:13 No.18721416

    He looks at you with the closest thing a veteran of 20 years of total war can to sheepishness:

    "Er, well, your drink, wasn't spiked, at least not intentionally. You see, there's this type of fungus, it's everywhere around here, grows on the walls, cracks in bathroom tiles, so on. If you add a specially bred form of this fungus to whiskey, it reduces the normal flavor of Angry Fire and adds a unique flavor depending on what you're using. It's a Daysimir specialty that's not likely to catch on due to an unfortunate fact: If you haven't grown up around its mundane cousin, you're going to have a reaction to it and pass out for 8-12 hours at a time. We used to slip into Tau water supplies during the War and then just breeze into camp once they were all down to slit their throats. It's pretty commonly used as sort of a hazing ritual for off-worlders."

    "I...May have produced the wrong flask to toast to our agreement. I tried to apologize before you crashed, but you went out pretty quick. Must not have had any serious fungal infections recently, I brought you here because the best course of action is to just bring them to the nearest bed and let them sleep it off. Good news is you should be fine now, it only knocks you out once. So you can get roaring drunk on Freedom Moonshine without passing out any earlier than normal."

    He looks at his companions: "If it makes you feel any better, I spent the better half of the night tied to a chair with a very intimidating Munitorum pencil-pusher sitting across a blood-stained table from me and a Storm Bolter pressed against the back of my skull until the drink came back from the lab and the whole fungal spores thing was confirmed by three separate reputable sources."
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)06:19 No.18721449
    Fucking Tzeench.
    >Tax collector confirmed for =][=
    I KNEW IT!

    Confirm truth of statement, if so, inform him that in the future saying "I'm sorry" before you black out sounds like you're being poisioned.

    Thank the Munitorium guy and the Iron Dragons and the PDF for their vigilance, offer to send Davos free bartending lessions, then timeskip.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:20 No.18721450
    Well, Davos, be glad you are breathing. I trust that everything has gone smoothely while I slumbered? Reports?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)06:21 No.18721459
    Oh yeah, introduce yourself to the BATTLETOAD. See to arrangements to get it some custom carapace and powerswords.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:22 No.18721466
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    "I'm surrounded by assholes.... If you'd simply tried to be nice to the Tau, I think it wouldn't have taken 20 years to get rid of them."
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:23 No.18721475
    "I'm...going to not kill you now. My Lord Chapter Master, Representative Malector, I thank you for your effort on my behalf. Davos, rest assured that when the citizenry gets its precious homeworld's name changed I will do my dead-level best to ensure one of the archaic translations of what is chosen is something akin to 'pain in the backside.' I am strongly considering whether it is wise to release news of this particular incident as some sort of humorous anecdote about how the Governor can drink with the best of them or perhaps simply tell the shifty sorts in some degree of temporal power about storm bolters behind the ear and the intimidating capacities of our Munitorum representative."

    "Gentlemen, we have work to do, the Ultramarines are coming and wish to integrate us into their realm, the orks are going absolutely nowhere, the Daemon World is still very much within sector borders, and apparently the laws no longer let me kill anyone I want on my say-so despite any desperate urges brought on by...alcohol. Let us try and keep the planet from rolling gently off its axis for another few days, yes?"
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:26 No.18721493
    Me again there.

    Oh, meeting with Munitorum rep. Tell him it'd be cool if he could confirm or deny being =][= but since he can't could we pretty please have the blueprint for makan Gorgons? Preferably Krieg style, with the cover on top.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:27 No.18721497
    This. All of this.

    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:27 No.18721503
    >and apparently the laws no longer let me kill anyone I want on my say

    Nononono, we can't get them killed for heresy any more. Poisoning the governor is probably still punishable by death.
    Not that there is any way we could actually have it carried out without resorting to having the whole planet nuked from orbit.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)06:29 No.18721509
    Do this, and throw in a cupon for free bartending lessons.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:30 No.18721518
    Promise him to return the favour in the future.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:31 No.18721524
    Checking archive for what we wanted to talk to the Munotirum =][= dude about.

    Yeah, that was me being witty and letting Davos know we weren't THAT pissed.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)06:31 No.18721527
    Yes, heresy isn't, assassination and poisoning and kidnapping of the governor are.
    Not that i'm suggest we should, it's just that charging him for heresy would be the least of his worries.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)06:32 No.18721531

    Raltus laughs: "It's true all right, we checked five more sources after we let him go and tested a sample on some Aspirants. Unfortunately "

    Davos shrugs: "Nothing new, these people have great OpSec. Nobody knew I'd been held hostage until I was let go. There is one thing though..."

    He looks at you coldly: "I know that you're mostly ignorant of Daysimir law, but I believe it should be obvious that slavery is not a common practice here."

    You can feel the Iron Dragons judging you from behind their helmets, the PDF troopers are looking at you similarly. Your staff and Arkhan Mirak assume neutral expressions. You will find no sympathy here.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)06:34 No.18721543

    Forgot to add this to this:


    Let's just say the mood has slightly improved.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:35 No.18721553
    >Poisons governor
    >Just let go by the inquisition
    >Steps on our toes the next chance he can

    I really cannot into this guy.

    Why the hell would we want that crap? They're incredibly stupid vehicles, even by w40k standards.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:36 No.18721554
    I have no idea what the hell kind of slavery he's talking about.

    "I think we've made it rather clear that my administration has little interest in conscripting soldiers, impressing workers, or otherwise forcing labor out of the unwilling. The planned workhouses are voluntary and teach useful skills. What sort of slavery are you referring to?"

    Oh, we wanted the =][= 'Munitorum' guy to stick around for the Ultras' meeting with us in case he had =][= clout and could help sort things out, or failing that mention our problem to his boss.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)06:37 No.18721563
    Who the hell's a slave? I just hired me an expensive bodyguard.

    Bloody hell, even after accidently poisoning us, he's STILL bitching at us. I don't know why we even purchased a Xenos slave in the first fucking place.

    In the future, no slaves, no xenos shit, any time we do ANYTHING people still complain about it.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:39 No.18721577
    Covered gorgons, actually. Here's my thinking, feel free to tell me yours:

    Raises our capacity to field siege regiments, lets us practice makan that chassis, and transports fifty men instead of twelve. Much of our PDF is mechanized, so why not get higher capacity vehicles?

    Frankly, the strategic situation suggests Steel Legion and DKoK tactics to me, and those require siege and breakout capacity. Until we get High Imperial tech levels we're going to need some kind of supply chain that isn't too demanding.

    If you have a better idea, do tell - I'm all ears.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:39 No.18721578
    The toad guy is an abhuman, so he's on one level with ogryns or ratlings. Not exactly a favourite of the more puritan elements of the ecclesiarchy or inquisition, but usually grudingly accepted by imperial organisations.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:42 No.18721601
    The Kriegers are basically applying ww1 tactics in space. Lots of artillery, lots of dead infantry.

    Steel legion is basically mechanised infantry supported by tanks. Fast chimeras supported by armoured vehicles.
    A gorgon is neither fast nor anything I would call a flexible troop transport.

    Not that sensible military strategy means anything in this universe. The Elysians haven't won a single battle that's covered in canon.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:43 No.18721608
    Oh, right, at the time of purchase our gladiator bodyguard was a slave.

    Ascertain whether the abhuman can talk, and if he can offer him his freedom in exchange for service, pay, an attempt at life here on this world, blah blah assuming he seems relatively sane.

    Otherwise we'll have to hook up a neural interface to communicate with him/let him communicate.

    Tell him we'll be treating other abhumans well and if he likes it here maybe we'll bring others like him here if he wants that or some shit.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)06:43 No.18721611
    This planet is so fucked up, they'll be bitching at us for consorting with abhumans next.

    Inform him that it's also not a common pratice to be poisioned when you're negoiating trade deals where you come from.

    Ignore him for the rest of the time, chill out with your new pimping battletoad, then drag your heels over the agreement you made with davos to make sure that the paper wasn't damaged after you passed out.

    Seriously this guy is everything I hated with Carth Onasi and Navi the fairy all rolled into one.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:46 No.18721633
    I actually favor Warhawks over Elysians, but as I understand it the Guard's regiments are most effective when different regimental types fight together, and this is by design to make it harder for an effective fighting force to rebel all at once.

    However, as I understand the warped logic of the 40K setting, the DKoK are (somehow) an effective siege force; whatever they do works well for long engagements with minimal support when they're defending or grinding through enemy lines. The Steel Legion on the other hand are an effective breakout force, fuck if I know how.

    We'd potentially be in a position wherein our eastern fringe locale won't be able to quickly supply assistance should the world be embattled, so both aren't the worst blueprints ever for a PDF to model itself on.

    However, I was kind of thinking along more than one line.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:47 No.18721639
    >Someone played Kotor
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:48 No.18721647
    The job is probably some kind of punishment instead of the reward we expected it to be.

    I'd still rather prefer some kind of transport aircraft to what's basically a landing barge on tracks.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)06:50 No.18721662

    Raltus speaks: "I believe that, if your intentions are pure, you plan on setting the Abhuman free and retaining him as a bodyguard. If not, well, it is not my place to involve myself in your Government or personal decisions. Know this, however: Our founding Chapter, the Salamanders, swore to tear down Tyrants wherever they brought Man beneath their boot. We have carried on this tradition. Tithe-Paying, Emperor-worshiping Slaver worlds have burned beneath our guns, and our Battle Brothers have broken chains too numerous to count."

    "Do not think of this as a threat, think of it as...a prediction, should you find slavery to be such a lucrative market that you expand your purchases beyond a single Abhuman Gladiator."

    He turns to Malector, who is doing his best to hide behind Mirak: "Although our ire is more greatly reserved for slavers than buyers."
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:51 No.18721667
    Just because I play pazaak in my head 24/7 does NOT make me paranoid.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:51 No.18721669
    Whatever, we can totally use the incident to our advantage and he's pretty fucking brave just to bring this shit up. Not to mention it could hamper you with the rest of the world if he hadn't. I'd rather hear an unfortunate truth than get lynched for listening to yes men.

    Anyway, ten bucks says we can just roll this into the continuous saga of how we're a badass and utterly capable of being the worthwhile governor this planet lacked. Make freeing this fucked-up abhuman part of a media story, make him a media figure if he can take it. 'That's the governor's bodyguard, if he was granted civil rights then I like this governor a whole lot.'

    Plus it should help with the Ogryns maybe. Well, after they've had B.O.N.E. operations maybe.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:53 No.18721678
    Please refer to >>18721608
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:53 No.18721680
    >However, I was kind of thinking along more than one line.

    We already have the best commando forces the imperium can offer in the form of a space marine chapter.

    If the SoB are okay with what we're doing and if we can somehow manage to rope them into settling on our planet, we'll get the best non-marine assault troops we can get.

    Our regular army should probably complement these two forces. That means lots of aircraft, tanks and artillery.

    Although, considering what assholes our subjects tends to be, a Krieg-like meat grinder army seems rather appealing.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:54 No.18721682
    Now that you mention aircraft, we do need blueprints for Valkyries and Vultures. We should ask for those!
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:55 No.18721685
    >B.O.N.E. operations

    Please explain.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)06:55 No.18721693
    Just remember, if we can turn them into assholes loyal to us they might be able to give the Armageddon Ork Hunters a run for their money as the meanest douchebags in town.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:56 No.18721699
    > Tithe-Paying, Emperor-worshiping Slaver worlds have burned beneath our guns,

    "Not that I'm disagreeing with you, honoured chapter master, but do you really intend to burn down 98% of the imperium?"
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)06:57 No.18721704
    When it comes to people, I look for talent and I want the best of the best, when I hire a bodyguard, I want the best of the best, what I am doing is not buy a slave, I'm hiring a bodyguard, one of the best around.

    I thought it presumptious to ask an Astartes to serve as my bodyguard, so I went for the next best thing.
    Nevertheless he will be properly compensated for his service and the like. The money I paid was not for his ownership, but rather a signing fee to his agent.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)06:59 No.18721725
    We should probably simply send them off to invade the sun.

    Anyway, we're the blasted planetary governor. That means we get rejuv treatments while they don't. So the worst when it comes to the resistance will probably over withing the next 100 years.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)07:00 No.18721729
    It is worth mentioning that the Iron Dragons are very autonomous and any order of Sisters we did not personally found would likely be as well.

    ...Now there's an idea - a Promethean Cult SoB Order, preferably with a minor Sororitas order like the Orders Pronatus (they specialize in the retrieving, guarding, studying and repairing of artefacts of value to the Ecclesiarchy) but loyal to us and with militant training. Lara Croft style relic and archaeotech hunters in power armor, loyal to our philosophical tradition and the Promethean cult? I think this idea is a good idea.


    "The most intelligent individuals among Ogryns undergo an augmentative chemical process called Biochemical Ogryn Neural Enhancement (BONE), which increases their intelligence further and makes them ideal as sergeants (or Bone'eads) of Ogryn squads.
    Although Ogryn worlds provide troops for the Imperial Guard like any other inhabited Imperial world, the standard practice of raising regiments is not used for Ogryns. Units of Ogryns are instead attached to the regiments of other worlds. The unit consists of squads, each led by an Ogryn Sergeant who has received BONE treatment, allowing them to communicate orders to their squad."

    Hopefully our Ogryns will have a much higher number of BONE-candidates.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:01 No.18721735
    Someone doesn't know about the Salamanders. Don't say this.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:02 No.18721740
    >agent fee, not money to purchase a slave
    I think the cat's out of the fucking bag on that one.
    Let's just set him free.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)07:03 No.18721746
    >Hopefully our Ogryns will have a much higher number of BONE-candidates.

    Now I'm picturing a Elementry Schoolteacher reading a picture book to Ogryn's.

    >That feeling when you realize we're not going to advance a year in this thread, despite us planning to in the LAST thread.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:03 No.18721747
    Imperial navy ship employs slaves.
    I think in some cases they just have to deal with it.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)07:03 No.18721748
    This is a bit too much. Poisoned then immediately bitched out. Time to reassert some dominance.

    Go completely still. Say very quietly, "as long as I have breath in my body, by order of the Imperium and Grace of the God Emperor, here I am the law.'

    Nod in respectful acknowledgement to the Battle brothers. A single 'dismissed' to Daevos is in order.

    At this point I'd request an audience with the ministorium agent (no refreshments) and talk to the battletoad later.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)07:04 No.18721750
    I'm not saying we're trying to disguise it, I'm saying that's how we thought of it from OUR point of view.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:05 No.18721759
    Which is why dragging them into a long discussion that goes all the way to the fundamental nature of their cult philosophy and chapter traditions on the eve of the Ultras' arrival is maybe a bad idea.

    But yeah, they're just looking to live in a place where they're not interested in something pissing them the hell off all the time. The Sallies have a nice setup on their homeworld, but they're the government of Nocturne so they can outlaw slavan pretty easily. Iron Dragons, not so much evidently.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)07:06 No.18721766

    With that settled, you can feel the icy stares of a dozen trained killers of varying degrees of lethality swiveling off of you and onto Malector like a spotlight. As you head for the exit one of the PDF troopers starts to stick his leg out to trip the Trader-Captain, but thinks better of it.

    It appears that their statements were simply their anger with Malector for dealing in slaves boiling over into an honest question.

    Balgor smiles at you. You realize that he doesn't smell nearly as rank as something that looks like him should smell, he evidently bathes and brushes: "Strong Balgor happy to be free, but Strong Balgor kill enemies of New Master free or not. Pay is nice, though. Save up to buy Vest that fits." He slaps the scarred belly protruding from beneath the battered armor.

    Malector speaks up: "I had my Explorator alter his voice-box so he can speak Low Gothic, I really should have charged extra for..." He looks up at the glaring Astartes and PDF and decides not to continue.

    >If you get this reference, then congratulations, you win a prize.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:08 No.18721773
    Nah, that's just spin. We free him, that's an action that speaks louder than any explanation.
    >the locals fucked up and gave me something that accidentally made me get a good night's rest and then I got mad and told them all to leave my room
    >I reasserted dominance

    One of these things is not like the other.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)07:08 No.18721774
    We should at least inform the Munitorium about the tendency of the Resistance to cause trouble, even to honest govoners, and if we should fall to "Unexplained circumstances" have him institute measures in the future to see it doesn't happen again.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)07:10 No.18721788
    For fucks sake, did I SAY we should keep him as a slave?

    NOBODY is arguing that, what I am trying to convey is the reasoning for hiring him in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:11 No.18721790
    If I remember correctly, the "Munitorium" was rather impressed by our actions and achievements.

    I doubt the planet will get another governor if something suspicious happens to Elyssa.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)07:12 No.18721798
    Saying "If I die exterminatus these assholes" isn't something one would say in polite company.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)07:13 No.18721802

    Message or meeting with Munitorum rep. Request blueprints and possibly facilities to build Valkyries and Vultures. Request presence for Ultras' arrival. Privately ask if he's =][=, tell him if he can't confirm or deny it that if he thinks this planet should stay independent from the unilateral intentions of Ultramar it'd be great if he or someone he worked for could maybe help convince the Ultras that this world is in fact not theirs.

    Timeskip to Ultras' arrival unless we get taxes first.

    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)07:13 No.18721806
    And what are our trust and popularity numbers since we made that deal with the Resistance and rejected slavery, anyway?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)07:14 No.18721812
    I agree, we shouldn've timeskipped awhile ago, but then we got sidetracked by a fucking drink.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:15 No.18721817
    I doubt we need to say it. The "Munitorium" knows Elyssa, the situation she's in and the population.

    I think all options left after "Send a competent and benevolent governor" are rather unpleasant for the planet's population.
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)07:16 No.18721818
    Strong belwas the eunuch that ate the poisoned locused and protected Dany in ice and fire
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:17 No.18721827
    Hey, the abhuman's killed berserker CSMs. If he can kill chaos spess marines, he can talk however the hell he wants.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:18 No.18721828
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    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)07:20 No.18721839
    Also my only reason for asking for meeting with the munitions rep was to thank him for taking care of things while we were poisoned and flat out ask him if he is inquisition.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:21 No.18721849
    >flat out ask him if he is inquisition.

    There are some things you simply don't ask people. And if we haven't figured it by now, I doubt we'll get an answer.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:27 No.18721876
    We're an Imperial Governor petitioning the =][= for aid here. I don't think we're some guy on the street asking a spy if he really works for the CIA. This is more srs than some frivolous shit.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)07:30 No.18721893

    As you are leaving you ask Mirak about getting patterns for Valkyries and Vultures, he says that he can get them for 40 C in total. On your way out, however, the lights in the building go down. In the darkness you hear Mrak saying "Switching to Night Vision" seconds before the metal grate above you explodes. A hand pushes you to the ground and flashes of gunfire and Warpfire alike illuminate the floor around you.

    Several seconds later it is over and the lights return. Around you are strewn the bodies of a dozen starved-looking Genestealers and half as many Brood Brothers. It appears that Davos took a nasty swipe to the shoulder and one PDF soldier was torn nearly in half. The most interesting sight, however, lies to your left.

    Standing beside you is a tall, gaunt an older man with black hair and an unshaven beard. He holds a sword that crackles with Warp lightning in one hand and a master-crafted Plasma Pistol in the other. It takes you a second to recognize the basic facial features of the small, grey-haired, shrunken-looking Munitorum Representative you have come to know.

    Malector looks at him for several seconds: "If I may ask a question to which you will respond with complete honesty, you're not really a Munitorum Tax Collector, are you?"

    The man before you laughs "Of course I am, what else would I be? What I was BEFORE I got this job, now that's another question. And it seems that you've used up your one free question, any further inquiries will cost.

    Malector declines to answer.

    In the blink of an eye the man is simply an Adeptus Munitorum Representative again, hunched with old age. But if you look closely, you can see that his shadow is subtly wrong as he continues on his way, his simple robes free of the purple blood that splatters your companions.

    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)07:33 No.18721907
    Sure, right after you tell the representative that his presence would be greatly appreciated when the Ultramarines arrive and any advice or aid he could offer in sorting out the...jurisdictional dispute would be very well received.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:33 No.18721910
    OH GOD YES! I think I just came. Please timeskip already!
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)07:37 No.18721933

    >Just a note, Mrak is the Iron Dragons Master of the Forge (Head Techmarine). Mirak is Jumped-Up Tax Collector and Weapons Dealer Extraordinaire.

    He was also planning on being in the system when the Ultramarines arrive, using the weight of a Munitorum emissary backed by an escort fleet containing several Cruisers to ensure that things stay polite.


    I was starting to think that n one would get this. At all. +10 Currency at next tax collection, and Dark Eldar Raiders gets taken off the Random Events list and replaced with another Intact Orbital Defense Platform Discovered event at this next times-kip.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)07:39 No.18721942
    For the love of the Emprah, Yes!
    Also Broquisitor is awesome

    >Whelp, looks like it's time for another round of genetic screeenings, anyone who works for the gov't or military needs a mandatory screening, but beforehand, have all the screeeners scan eachother, have at least 2 diffrent scanners check each inspector.

    Conduct more tunnel fighting excercises in the sewers, and check the local law enforcment about any strange occurences.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)07:41 No.18721955
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)07:48 No.18722007
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    It's a new year, the Ultramarines will arrive any day now, Sisters were held up by Ork Pirates, and you have money:


    Taxes collected: +40 Currency to Treasury. Trading Fleet profits collected: +15 C to Personal Account. Profits from business ventures collected, +20 C to Personal Account. Total of 41 C in Treasury and 35 in PA. You can freely donate from PA to Treasury, but doing the reverse might cause an embezzlement scandal.

    Please roll 1d25 (Dice+1d25 in the Email field) for Random Events.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)07:49 No.18722012
    rolled 24 = 24

    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:50 No.18722018
    rolled 23 = 23

    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)07:53 No.18722038
    Praise the Emperor!
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)08:01 No.18722076
    Fortifications completed.
    Bunkers Completed
    Orbital Defense Repair 93% complete (Unfortunately coastal batteries were left for last)
    Fortress-Monastery 34% Complete (Orbital Defenses and Void Shields functioning, bare bones built.)
    Following your entry into private business, rumors of your Xenos-mall idea reaching the population, and your reconciliation with the Resistance, the citizens of your planet believe that you finally, finally "get it".
    Spec Ops Corps trained and ready
    Ogryn Brute Squads trained and attached to PDF.
    Ogryn Militia organized
    University, Academy, Art schools are all open.
    Statues completed
    Your PDF commanders are much better trained.
    Resistance Commanders have been trained in conventional warfare, many have been integrated into PDF as officers.
    Under Davos' tuition you now grasp the basics of both Guerrilla and Conventional tactics (+6 to Tactics)



    Coming out of the black of space like a dagger from an assassins hand, your planets Auspexes do not detect the Chaos Raider until it's flown from the uninhabited side of your planet, which it was using as a shield from scanners, to the edge of the Continent and lands its foul cargo on one of your most prosperous port cities. Militia have engaged the enemy, PDF from nearby bases are being called in, and the Iron Dragons Bastion is under siege.

    >Action, Governor?
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:02 No.18722085
    So, I guess high rolls = shit?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)08:06 No.18722106
    Oh crap, I forgot what we were planning to do with the money, I remember the Amasec improvement, but I forgot prety much everything else.

    FUCK OFF TZEENTCH! Time to test the training, improved equipment and the organization of the PDF.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)08:06 No.18722107
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    >Until it has

    Mirak is en route with 50 Stormtroopers in several Valkyries.

    Iron Dragons Responders are en route.

    Fire Priest Halak Victarion is currently unreachable, as he is hunting Mammoths near the Ogryn Tribal Lands and a fierce blizzard is cutting off Vox Communications.
    >> Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)08:08 No.18722116
    The Dragons can handle themselves, have every orbital gun scan the skies near the fortress and instate a no-fly/orbital zone.

    We gotta find and capture/destroy the ship, and the attackers will eventually attrition to death after their escape is fucked and the full PDF bears down on them.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:08 No.18722117
    Shouldn't we have 36 C in the personal account.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)08:10 No.18722126
    >Port city
    Is it possible to use our navy (We do have a navy, right) to provide support to the people in the city? Aircraft carries, bombardment and the like.

    Have the people in the city skirmish and attempt to buy time, rather than trying to kill enemies until reinforcements arrive.

    Put that Resistance training to good use, as it were.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:11 No.18722130
    Right, Send orders for all nearby cites to fortify against attack and start ferrying regiments from the center of the contant.

    Also use our space assests (trade fleet, the Iron dragons, ect...) start hunting that ship.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)08:12 No.18722140
    I should clarify, when I said navy, I meant water-navy, not space navy.

    (How the fuck did the Chaos ship get past our improved scanners? they were supposed to be able to detect cloaked ships!)
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:14 No.18722152
    Let's demand a refund once this situation has been resolved.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)08:17 No.18722172

    No, each number corresponds to one result (IE, 1 would be this event, 6 would be this other event) you happened to hit the "Chaos Raiders from your local Daemon World" number.

    A Munitorum Cruiser and two Iron Dragons Strike Cruisers are moving in to cut off retreat.
    The city was caught off guard and did not have AA defenses, Traitors were able to take control of much of the cities streets, looting and killing at will. However, once the Militia got organized and manned fortifications their advance and pillaging was stonewalled. Fighting is currently a brutal, bloody stalemate but Traitors have the upper hand and control 60% of the city, although snipers and hit-and run parties plague them everywhere.
    The City Hall has been looted and razed.
    The Chapter Bastion has fended off three Cultist human-wave charges, but defenders are running out of ammunition.
    PDF forces are closing in.
    Davos went along with Mirak with some of his best men, he apparently harbors a homicidal hatred for Chaos Worshipers in general but has a special place in his heart for the Emperors Children, rivaled only by his hatred of Khorne Worshipers this seems to be shared by his men, who are champing at the bit to start taking Slaaneshi heads.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:17 No.18722178
    Inform Davos of the situation, mention that it would be very nice if the resistance had any manpower/equipment in the vicinity.
    >> Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)08:22 No.18722207
    Does the PDF have anti-ship SAM's? They're pretty essential once the running starts.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:22 No.18722209
    Good our generals are taking care of it. By the way we should start rebuilding those orbital platforms after we have kicked chaos off the planet.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:30 No.18722255
    Ask the resistance if they have any spare munitions near the chapter bastion.
    Arrange for stockpiles of pdf equipment and resources to be sent where they are needed.
    Use some of our personal funds to hire civilian pilots and purchase weapons and supplies to be airlifted to the various battlefields, make sure the Iron Dragons don't run out of supplies before the pdf gets there (give them las guns if we have to).
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)08:33 No.18722271
    City not having AA defences? The hell? ಠ_ಠ
    Isn't it standard to have the PDF equipped with Hydras incase the enemy, I dunno, decides to attack from the air?

    Each PDF garrison should have a full compliment of Hydras and other Imperial Vehicles, I guess we'll have to contact Broquisitor to acquire some plans for them incase this ever happenes again.

    Holy shit either we're hilariously underequipped or somebody dropped the ball big time, the PDF not having Anti-Air is like the PDF not having Chimeras.

    Pretty much any attack that's not an insurrection/genestealers is going to involve airspace, so having AA units is kind of a big thing for PDF.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)08:35 No.18722281
    Wait, why don't we have someone use our personal flyer to airdrop supplies? Naturally we'll be staying behind as we're a backseat kind of person.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:36 No.18722286
    Assist our space mahreen allies with all our available assets, also try and signal the ultramarine's from the cruisers inbound.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)08:37 No.18722295

    You do not, in fact, have a Sea navy. You can build one later, though.

    Your PDF does not have AO or mobile AA batteries.

    I don't think you actually bought the Improved Scanners, as you didn't repair any Orbital Defense Platforms to mount them on.

    This particular Warband specializes in hit-and-run and sneak attacks. They figured that a Civilized World guarded by Astartes would have good loot, and coasted on minimal engine power from beyond the edge of the system, keeping the sun and eventually your planet between them and you for weeks. They entered orbit above the half the planet where there isn't a single fucking thing but water and rocks and hugged the atmosphere as tightly as they could while they made a beeline for your coastal cities. Ground-based scanners were trained on the sky above and therefore didn't notice the ship until it was practically on top of Rtoas (City name).

    This, as you can see, is a serious flaw in your defensive strategy.

    Chapter Bastion has been bombarded by Chaos artillery, still holding.

    Traitor-occupied territory has become a maze of snipers, ambush points, barricades, and claymore mines.

    A Traitor Predator was taken out by a determined mob on the roof of a building with hundreds of molotov cocktails.

    Munitorum Escort and Iron Dragons Navy are closing the noose, although the ship appears to be a light and fast "Raider" class and will be difficult to blockade in.

    The Battlebarge "Fist of Vulkan" has targeted Traitor concentrations with missile strikes and has deployed Thunderhawks in low orbit. ETA 15 minutes.

    PDF will be there in 30, Heavy Armor will follow 10 minutes later.

    Obliterators have been spotted among the enemy forces.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:38 No.18722296
    We should probably get some combat lessons under our belt. I bet even the marines would be willing to help us out in that regard.
    >> Financial space jew, Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)08:40 No.18722314
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    We're gonna have to spend ALOT of money to get manticores, to fight off landers and Hydras to counter fighters. Next to that equipping the PDF to form an ARMY will cost alot, basically we need a list of our industry and what we can develop to rake in cash.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:44 No.18722338
    >taxes: 40 (~60 million$) per year / trade 15c (22.5 mil$) per year (or maybe it is half of a year? Doesn't matter, even if that was per month it still is extremely low)

    You know OP, I don't really want to bitch and moan but I think I'll have to. That shit just does not make any semblance of a sense. Our planet is the second highest tier Imperium planet(of which there are only few in this sector). We have best habitable planet imaginable, we export extremely rare, precious and luxurious products, our population is more than 4 billion people, we spent extreme amounts of capital and effort to repair, restore and improve infrastructure, economy and growth, we give a lot of freedom to businesses and let free market run its course, we imported a lot of new products to improve our trade even more (grain, herbs, etc), and maybe other things that I can't remember.

    So how come the GDP of an ENTIRE PLANET is DWARFED by the GDP of fucking of modern-day CONGO (one of the poorest countries in the world)!?

    By all logic we should have income equivalent of HUNDREDS of TRILLIONS dollars.
    Yes, I know, doing that would throw any semblance of balance into the window but this really annoys me. There ought to be verisimilitude.
    >> Financial space jew, Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)08:44 No.18722340
    Hold everything off for 30 minutes so they all arrive at the same time and plow over them in a varied attack, and backed by armour 10 minutes later.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:44 No.18722342
    Don't tell me it is because the government was corrupt or that economy and infrastructure was in shambles. Going with real-life parallels, Russia is a den of corruption, authoritarian government, with God awful infrastructure and incredibly hostile market for small and middle businesses and it still manages to make 1.4 trillion $ per year, where our great leader Putin manged to embezzle 40 billion$ (is not more) in the past 10 years, and that JUST Putin, if you take all the . So you can't really say that ALL of that money is spent on maintaining shit.

    And that trade fleet should rake in more than that. Do you honestly want me to believe that it will take 20 fucking years JUST to break even? Real-life trade fleets pay themselves off in matter of a year or two (and that's being very generous since I know little on the subject)

    Besides all of this, it seems we have completely forgotten that we have Las Vegas of ENTIRE SECTOR on our planet which is nationally owned (since we paid for the whole thing ourself, it should be government property). ~97 billion$ comes from real life Las Vegas, and that's just one of the two cities on one country on the earth. We have the only city in the whole sector.

    Before you tell me to deal with it, YOU are the one who gave us such a crazy lucrative planet in the first place. If you wanted to let us go from nothing to everything, you should have given us a tiny, poor mineral, hostile, toxic, irradiated planet with a small colony of 1000 people.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:46 No.18722350

    Sorry for throwing the long rant in middle of a crisis. This has been bothering me almost from the first thread. I just never got a chance to post in the ongoing thread.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:46 No.18722353
    I think funneling some of our own mula towards shoveling out better tech would be great.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)08:47 No.18722367
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    >Your PDF does not have AO or mobile AA batteries.
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    >Your PDF has no AA or Air support
    >Dem jungle orgyns
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:50 No.18722381
    I think it's not the gross product we are looking at, instead that 40c is whats left over after we pay all our commitments. Basically it's our free money.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)08:51 No.18722391

    You have Hydra Flak PLATFORMS guarding your PDF bases and Orbital Defense installations, you do not have mobile Hydra Flak TANKS.

    Supplies and reinforcements are already on their way. Try to hire civilian pilots to fly into a highly lethal combat zone and airdrop supplies?

    There is a tank column approaching the main gates of the Bastion.

    Most of the enemy armor has been taken down by Molotov Cocktails and land mines

    A Traitor Land Raider has been trapped in the industrial district after Militia collapsed the street by wiring the sewers below with explosives.

    Heavy Stubber nests are everywhere and Militia Ragnarok Armored Squadrons have taken to the field. Many enemy landing craft have been disabled and the territory they do hold is so thoroughly clusterfucked that a swift withdrawal is impossible.

    An Ex-Resistance Fighter has taken to the streets with a Pulse Cannon and has gone Obliterator-Hunting..

    A Chaos Dreadnought has slaughtered 270 children hiding in the basement of a pre-school.

    30 Emperors Children Veterans are systematically working their way through the maternity ward of the local hospital.

    >Additional actions?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)08:53 No.18722410
    Honestly just picture it as an abstract amount of thrones, games always have a rather loose interpretation of money, as long as the values proportionalty make sense, it's okay.

    The last time I checked, a nuclear power plant costs significantly more than $20,000 but Sim City 3000 says otherwise.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)08:54 No.18722417

    Precisely. I have specified several times that this is your SPENDING MONEY, and that if you need more for something important you can PULL FUNDING FROM A PROJECT OR CUT IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

    Glad to see that there's someone paying this much attention posting, though. Props to you.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:54 No.18722418
    But I've covered that too.
    Real life dictators of small, poor countries can embezzle billions of dollars. We, on the other hand, barely have money to spend on improving stuff.

    Forgetting about national GDP. We still have private businesses and a trading fleet. Again, going with real examples, the owners of huge companies have incomes in billions of dollars and compared to us, their companies are smalltime. We on the other hand get the equivalent of loose change found under the sofa.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:55 No.18722421
    Now thats just wrong. Our PDF is under equipped and the chaos raiders attack those who were on the very bottom of the list to get AA.

    Also we are already in the process of equipping all the PDF, we just had not reached them when we where attacked.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)08:57 No.18722431
    Send a Storm trooper unit to go Dreadnought hunting, attempting to only disable it if possible. It shall be a make example of after the crisis, on the treatment of those who turn to chaos.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)08:57 No.18722435
    >You have Hydra Flak PLATFORMS guarding your PDF bases and Orbital Defense installations, you do not have mobile Hydra Flak TANKS

    Okay, I thought you meant no AA whatsoever, fixed defensive AA emplacments seem reasonable, seeing as you don't have to move cities.

    Get some people jury-rigging IED's and scatter them near avenues of approach for chaos units.

    Just keep trying to slow them down until we can turn the tide, I guess.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)09:00 No.18722457
    Seems a little risky, I'd much rather disable it ASAP and stop any further damage. If we could lure the dreadnaught to the docks, we might be able to blow up the docks and sink him, I dunno.

    Honestly we sound rather unequipped for this.
    >> Financial space jew, Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)09:00 No.18722461
    Can we hold an election for who does what for the governor, and who makes the end all decisions?

    Also level the hospital with artillery, can I get an aye?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)09:05 No.18722493
    Nothing much else we can do, sadly. The PDF can't match CSM vets.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)09:06 No.18722507
    Granted it will be risky, but the moral boost would be far worth it. It will also makes people think twice, knowing storm trooper will fuck you up if you fall.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)09:06 No.18722510

    To be completely honest, my estimate of the value of 1 C was a wild guess. Just take building huge bunkers in all of the cities of an entire planet that are intended to survive orbital bombardment and hold off small armies of ground enemies being worth 30C, and fortifying them to WWII Europe levels, but modernized being worth 20 C and work it out from there, if you're that interested. I make no promises about the system making any sense in relation to any real world values as I pretty much made it up on the fly.

    I should also note that taxes are low here (Normal taxes are low+no Income Tax) and you have a LOT of projects going. Also note that this is your profit AFTER military spending and everything else.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)09:08 No.18722522
    [I'm not verse in 40k, so if I'm wrong, I'm sorry]

    I tried, I really tried to think abstractly but that makes my head hurt even more.

    iirc, we bought 20 hotshot rifles for 10c, right? We also bought militarized trade fleet for 300c.
    Now, I don't know what hotshot rifles are but I assume they are high tech weapons, but not high enough to be considered Dark Age stuff. So, for 600 rilfes we could get another trade fleet.

    Going with real-life parallels again, XM-25 costs 30,000$. 600 of them would be 18million$.
    A SINGLE cruiser costs 1 billion$, a carrier can cost more than 400 billion$.

    You see how thinking abstractly doesn't work here either?

    Honestly, I'm not bitching because I want more money to spend, it's just not making sense to me.

    Hah, alright. I just wanted to throw this out. I realize that trying to be too realistic would be too much work AND it would give us insane amount of money.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)09:09 No.18722528
    Try to hire private pilots as Elyssa von Braun not as planetary governor. Be very clear on the dangers and the fact that this mission is voluntarily. Pay for it with personal funds.
    Nay, I don't particularity want to demolish hospitals, especially ones which still might have patients.
    It makes for very bad pr.

    Do we have any troops nearby which can delay the CSM until we have evacuated the hospital?
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)09:09 No.18722530
    Sending 1 stormtrooper and having it try and disable a Chaos Dread isn't just risky it's suicidal.

    Risking the thing rampaging around and causing more harm for some plubicity is a bad trade, it'll be hard enough trying to destory it, insisting it only be crippled make it even more difficult.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)09:13 No.18722551
    Damn, i missed the start.
    Now, about contacting the inqusiton, its obvious the tax man is one or something of similar stature (may hap a sensei), and have the sisters stationed here too.
    Considering they would have been whiped out by genestealers and half of them were/are / will be on vacation here.
    garding the Xeno mall,
    they (SoB) would be a good way to have the inquisition present (they technically are part of it) and a good way to dispose of the xeno artifacts that the cotrollers and survailance will deem or find to be subvertive or too dangerous.

    Also the xeno mall main function would be to attract various high dignigtaries and big spenders to our planet, from nobles to AdMech Priests, Arbites Magiostrates out to get a edge against their foes, other Rogue Traders, the odd inquisitor or acolyte to gather up some gear and a fuckton of Chartist captains. it would be secondary concern to market to the local population, but a posible thhing. although considering they get low end Eldar gear and have Scavanged High end gear, i dont see why they would pay for mid to high end artifacts.
    Also, regarding the current situation, we payd for the all inclusive tratment in the thread where we upgraded our PDF and the Planetary infrastructure. the whole flak and lasguns and all the orbital repairs plus ADVANCED SENSOR for the Genestealer screening and containment for normal people plus some token payment.

    now regarding the current situation, if the Sisters are here, try to get them there, they would be invaluable in dismantling any chaos leftover surprises. Don't waste them unless necesary, we have iron dragons to waste as meatshield counters against CSM and their ilk.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)09:14 No.18722566
    Stop putting PR above defending the city.
    Hospitals are big, gathering evacuating everybody would be tough, not to mention many people in the hospital are in no condition to be fleeing, let alone from the speed of a corrpted Astartes.

    Those people are already dead, we should contain the damage before it spreads.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)09:15 No.18722569
    The SoB are more important in the purification, identification and containmet of chaos surprises and huntig an killing any jack in the box demon or psykers that might be left behind or start rearing its ugly head amongst the PDF and militia.

    Considering the raid we have the opening to request their aid and stationing here, while htey gratiouly accept it. - a good political move and a way to further cement a position of political strength for Daysimir, and mend the fences between our Space Marines and the Imperial Church. - a thing they will benefit a lot from wather they know it or not.
    It also makes the claim of us belonging to teh Holy land Of Ultramar even more flimsy and ridiculous - but we could always invite them to have a recruitment presnece. Having them compete a bit and having represnetnats in two chapers is quite benfical, and itwould allow the Ultramarines to save face. the presnece of the Sisters would allow it since, they could pretend this is a world that has multiple interests in it. - having only the Iron Dragons puts them on a more hostile footing, politicaly speaking.
    >> Financial space jew, Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)09:18 No.18722590
    They're kidnapping kids to turn into monsters, we can save them from a fate worse then death and kill 30 of their best bastards. This won't exactly be our poster child for governing, but we need to starve the enemy.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)09:19 No.18722599
    how about both. 50/ 50 spread in hiring pilots, dont go about the danges but go about the need to defend against invaders again. Dasymir needs you! Right Now!

    Also, no to changing the name. Its a matter of pride. It's our name and we will wear it as a mark of pride.

    they Call us Flowers? Fine, then Dasymir will be the most splendind and blooming place in the stinking sector.

    Also, consider the fun you can poke at various people if the daisyes had to save them.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)09:21 No.18722607
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    IEDs deployed.

    The Dreadnought has disappeared in the chaos of the battle.

    You have no artillery to level the hospital with, but police and Militia collapse the ceiling on them and shower them with Krak and Frag grenades, plus a healthy dose of yet more Molotovs. Unfortunately for them this warband equips their veterans with jump-packs, and the 1/2 that survived are pissed. Their deaths buy time for the survivors of the floor below to be smuggled out.

    The Chaos Land Raider is attempting to blast a ramp out with its plasma cannons, it has had little success so far.

    You're actually doing pretty damn good. On most planets the raiders would already be speeding toward the edge of the system, counting their loot and slaves. As it stands they're trying to withdraw to the LZ, running from burnt-out Rhino to IED-flipped Predator and hoping that they don't step on a land mine, because if they slow down enough to check then 80 crack marksmen with lasguns will target them simultaneously, and there won't be much left to put in a Dreadnought. Militia or PDF incurring these kinds of casualties against Traitor Marines is virtually unheard of.

    The Iron Dragons have made planetfall.

    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)09:23 No.18722615
    We should have SOME kind of ships flying around in orbit, right?

    We should block any routes they have for escape. None of them will leave alive.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)09:25 No.18722623
    The only way to do that is to land lock the raider. have it detected and order lance strikes on it to disable it or destroy it.

    the obvious risk and problem is that in doing that they wont flee in case of resistnace but stay and fight - meanig more damage to us, or have its reactors go critical.

    Beside SoB, Iron Dragons SM and our own personal gurads and Spec Ops nothing can really stay mano a mano against 30 CSM, much less Emperors children.
    The only way to destroy them is with heavy wapons and you cant really use arty, tanks and heavy weapons teams in and on a hospital if you want to rescue it.

    also, sorryfor the pleathora of typos but my autocorect is in working only in a non English language since i am not at my PC., so i cant be botherd to correct them.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)09:27 No.18722636
    This invasion really stresses the fact that we need to intergrate the Ogryn into our PDF ASAP.
    Tank Armour is weakest on the rear, top, and bottom, right? Have some people with IED's/Satchels hide in buildins and drop them onto vehicles that drive past, then get away and detonate.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)09:29 No.18722643
    I am surprised our molotovs, and IEDs and Militia are that good - well i expected some proficiency considering the Tau insurgency, but not so good that the our second rate troops are that well trained and drilled.

    I suspect its more experience and their odd guns they love so much, but the lassguns and flaks we provided must surely help too.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)09:30 No.18722648
    Send our veteran assets to iron dragon with order to assist any way possible and get a regimental unit to preform the rear gear.

    Let us purge these chaos fuckers in holy fire.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)09:32 No.18722657
    IEDs are good on the ground as mines.

    If you go building route, a few tank sells with the detonator loosend to be more sensitive or RPGs would be better served.

    also, in case they need some improvised RPGs, a Oxygen tank can doo in a pinch- although rather hard to aim at anything it does provide a impresive blast and incirnerating properties. Wont hurt the CSM, but it might destabilize them while Jet jumping, like a flak cloud and disperse masses of cultists.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)09:34 No.18722659

    The Iron Dragons Fleet and the Munitorum Escort Fleet are closing a noose around the Raider. It would have fled by now if the withdrawal of 90% of the Warbands warrior and its Champion weren't so thoroughly clusterfucked.

    The Iron Dragons Eight Company has landed in the city, and after witnessing the atrocities committed by the Emperors Children before the Militia was organized, they descend on the Traitors like the fist of an angry God.

    Mirak and Davos have made landfall. From the pict-feed you can see that while his soldiers bear an extreme hatred for the Emperors Children, his vendetta borders on insanity. Luckily he seems to hate the Khorne Berserkers he encountered at the LZ almost as much.

    PDF forces will arrive in less than 10 minutes.

    The Cruiser Spear of Kings has unleashed a swarm of fighters, bombers, and shark attack boats. If they reach the Raider in time they are going to seriously wreck someones day.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)09:44 No.18722691
    Throw our weight around to ensure that the logistics for this whole operation is running smoothly. Also contact the families to arrange for field hospitals and other post operation cleanup as fast as possible.

    Contact the sisters regarding whatever the CSM leave behind? Dealing with chaos artifacts can be quite risky, and I'd rather not have to deal with it myself.
    >> Rohan Kishibe 04/15/12(Sun)09:46 No.18722697
    Fuck it, I'm going to bed, it's 6:45am here, and we've been running the quest for 9.5 hours, in the future, it might be better to run PGQ more often with shorter durations, after halfway through the thread I started getting tired. I don't know if you're on a diffrent timezone or something, but people on Pacifc to Eastern standard time might have trouble following your quest threads all the way through. (Notice Editor dropped out 2 hours ago.) If someone could archive this I'd very much appreciate it, as I'm barely awake enough to type.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)09:48 No.18722707

    This gives me a idea. after this is done have Von Braun Industries work with the University and a few choice people involced to do a series of Movies and Games regarding these incidents.

    Starting with the Tau Insurgency, Genestealer infiltration and Chaos Raid Refusal.

    RPG, FPS, TBS and RTS variatioins for all three occurances, and three diffrent action vids for each one plus a drama series following people from the start of the Tau dominion through the insurgency, then the combating of genstealer infiltration and then the defence and refusal to be raided by chaos.

    Couple it with practical depictions on how to insurect against the alien conquerors and tyrants, detect, defend an deny xeno infiltration, and why one must resist chaos.

    In various formats from game like enviroments for juvies to drama filled interpersonal relations for housewifes and hamy action lines for Guardsmen.

    Also after this thing we have to either reupgrade our advanced sensors or instal even better ones and get either some SAM Manticore tanks or better yet a few lance sattelites similar to GDIs ion cannon network to swiftly deal with incoming and landed enemies and a few ICBM analogue missile silos to deal with void shielded enemy ships.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)09:53 No.18722725
    provided with proper distribution and revenue collection these media outlets for dataslates should be a massive revenue stream and favourites of volutneer imperial propaganda and instructional materials, and considering us and our profits as an example the imperium should encourage it to happen more often - pro imperial media that does three things at the same time. Portrays the evil alien and traitors as the villain, provide instructional buidlines on how to succesfully fight them and increase the motivation to do even more of these from various sources due to personal profits the first one is seen to be making.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)09:54 No.18722728

    Ogryns have been integrated into PDF (Read my posts when I do an update next time) and dropping explosives from buildings is the primary lets-go-fuck-up-a-Rhino tactic in the city.

    Your Militia has been trained to Guard levels, they're just second rate compared to your PDF, who were personally trained by the Dragons and have Krieg-style mental conditioning. The Traitors were expecting crowds of civilians fleeing in terror and a scattered and disorganized police force opposing them, if there was any opposition at all. After making this fatal assumption they scattered in all direction with no directives aside from "Loot and pillage, grab all the young boys you can and be back here by X time or we leave your ass behind" and had no battle plan whatsoever. I should also tell you that casualties on your side are absolutely atrocious. For every Traitor that steps on a well-placed claymore or gets taken down by concentrated las-fire, another single-handedly butchers entire militia squads, a Predator tank levels a building filled with snipers, and a Dreadnought shreds a tank column by itself. Casualty estimates are at about 1/8th the entire population of the city (Pop 160,000 people). All I'm noting is that it's very rare for Militia or light-infantry PDF to have such a high kill-to-casualty ratio against Chaos Marines.

    PDF have entered the City Limits, contact with enemy has been made.

    Davos and his troops are fucking over the Raider command structure with relish all over the city.

    Mirak has secured a refugee shelter against a mob of Khorne Berserkers.

    The Eight Company lost an Assault Squad fighting a Thousand Sons Sorcerer, although he was killed moments later by a Land Raider.

    The Raider Ship is bombarding the city at random.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)10:07 No.18722773
    Supply drops are happening across the city, many are volunteers who refused to accept money. Casualty rates are high.

    The Raider has been disabled by fighters after hesitating too long before the crew decided to cut their losses and run for it. Considering that it looks like it's been in Chaos possession for a relatively short time, the Iron Dragons have donned Mark III Iron Armor and are boarding the ship so that it may be cleansed and put to use in service of the Imperium.

    The Seventh, Ninth, and Thirteenth Companies have landed at the battle-zone. ground gains are being made against the Traitors and what's left of their command structure is coming apart after the destruction of their ship. Enemy discipline is rapidly disintegrating.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)10:10 No.18722784

    Then they definatley deserve to be in those media outlets, as propaganda and instructional hero figgures.

    The Creulty of Tau Overlords,
    The Insidious Tyranids and The Sacrifice of Opposing them,
    and The Horrors and Atrocities done by the Ruinous Traitors of Chaos.

    Also, regarding the CSM and their infantry ratios that is to be expected, a tank taking out a sniper nest is what is expected, but i am unsure of a dread taking out e entire collum of tanks. - that is a lot of guns. but then again or tanks are shit.

    Now that the PDF is on site, heavy weapons and Leman Russ type tanks can take the heat of the local heroes and drive hard and fast at the enemies heart.

    Also, find a way to take out that Raider ship - getting bombarded is not nice - what is the ETA on the air support and air strike?
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)10:13 No.18722797

    Yay, our first ship of the SDF!
    use the pay for the volunteers for medical aid of said volunteers and survivors.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)10:20 No.18722832
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    Final report:

    Chaos Numbers:

    300 Traitor Marines, mostly Emperors Children, ten of them Terminators, 50 Khornate Berserkers, one Thousand Sons Sorcerer, 20 Death Guard.

    12 Chaos Dreadnoughts.

    27 Daemon Engines

    50 Chaos Predators.

    250 Chaos Rhinos.

    30,000 Traitor Guardsmen (Light Infantry).

    60,000 Cultists.


    12,000 PDF.

    300 PDF Spec ops

    97,000 civilians and Militia (Nearly 2/3rds the population of the city).

    22 Iron Dragons

    30 Stormtroopers.

    City ruined, will cost 80 C over nearly a decade to repair.

    Chaos Warband annihilated.

    Reputation gained: Biter. You successfully eliminated the largest and most feared Chaos Warband in the sector, future raiders will steer clear from you.

    The Sisters of the Order of Sworn Swords have arrived, and assisted in mop-up operations and disposal of dangerous artifacts. One sister was killed by a cultist hiding in a broom closet.

    Your population has gained Hatred: Emperors Children and Hatred: Chaos Worshipers.

    >Action, Governor?
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)10:27 No.18722875
    Well shit, that city is pretty much lost.

    Did we get any loot however? And is there any change to our reputation or trust from the population?
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)10:32 No.18722896
    Start City relief and clear up. use military ransports to clear rubble, dispense medical aid, food, basic necesities, search for survivors, etc

    Auction for Rebuilding projects. the best and most cost effective proposal will win. they will have to meet the parameters they submited.

    Invite the sisters to base a Scion of their Covenant here. - our hatred and succesful fight against The Archenemy should indicate that it is the Emperors Will, and considering that our sons get the change to join the Emperors most prestigious warriors, it would be unjust to deny such a opportunity to our daughters.

    with this they would get a sureshot recruitment ground , especialy if they start to invest in the city - reconstructing it with somewaht more Sister-y feel would give them the best option to promote the Imperial Creed on this loyal world.

    (as well as mend fences with the iron warriors. - no need to have the secotrs best forces at each others throaths)

    During the Von Braun funded Relief start the media outlets previously mentioned by filming a documentary.

    See into oportunities to aquiere ICBM and antispace missiles, lance Satelites and better sensors. - either through the RT, our our Captain conections (as a Naval captain we should be very qualified in getting these. far better than anything we ever did before).
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)10:34 No.18722905
    indeed , try to get the cleansed Raider as the first ship of SDF.
    I am sure the Iron Dragons did a good job of it. perhaps have the sisters and Dragons do a joint job on it, as away to start geting over their animosity and hard feelings.

    purgeing chaos is a very recreative and stress relief conducting activity
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)10:42 No.18722938
    Q: How did the Plasma Cannon Veteran fare in his obliterator hunt?

    depending on his status we could tailor a cautionary tale on using xeno artefacts taht is acceptable both by our population and the Imperial market.

    We could have him claim teh weapon in heroic combat, in the Tau series of the media productions and then heroicaly using it to combat chaos oblitarators only to run out of ammo, in a critical situation, and having to run for a imperial weapon.

    A good way to pose the dangers of using even safe, sanctioned xeno artefacts as well as a publicity stunt through its capabilities in a experienced warriors hand for the future xeno-mall while at the same time setting a good, non heretical, imperial pragmatic frame about it.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)10:46 No.18722959

    The Iron dragons have claimed all the Astartes Gear after they finish cleansing it of Chaos taint. They will cleanse the Traitor Guard and Cultist gear and hand it over to you. They are positive about the idea of beginning a defensive fleet with the Raider.

    The rest of the Warband Fleet, which was drifting at the edge of the system with all of its commanders dead (Three Sword Class Frigates, one Cruiser, 12 Cobra Class Frigates) are being boarded and reclaimed by the Iron Dragons.

    The Sisters agree to establish an outpost here: +1 Fortress Temple and 50 Sisters.

    35 C spent on reconstruction for this year.

    +5 to Trust from the population, -10 Popularity from inviting a Church Militant to set down roots. -5 Rep with the Iron Dragons for the same reason (Their dislike of the Ecclesiarchy goes far deeper than one incident on a Shrine World according to what intelligence you have).

    You still have one Dreadnought in storage that you purchased from the Rogue Trader.

    An Ordos Hereticus Inquisitor is on his way to ensure that everything is in order.

    You have received a commendation from the Sector Governor for permanently eliminating the largest and most dangerous Chaos Warband in the Sector, and is awarding you 30C for the reconstruction of the city and two free Planetary Improvements of your choice. (Full list to follow).
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)10:50 No.18722990
    I saw we give the dreadnought shell to the Iron Dragons, as a show of thanks and to mourn the lost of the assault marine squad.
    >> Financial space jew, Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)10:51 No.18722999
    Okey guys we need to start marketing the planet for outside nobles and investors to build their crap here, we also need to convert some of our crap milltia tanks into dozers to clear up the city.

    Infrastructure wouldn't hurt either, with a hive/city connecting railway, and to increase accessibility to the infrastructure have smaller railways connect the agriculture and mining operations to a spaceport.

    Centralizing our process industry around spaceports would also help.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)10:53 No.18723011

    He took down seven before getting whacked from behind by a cultist with a hatchet while stalking the eight. He's recovering in the hospital and seems to be clean aside from a nasty infection from a dirty blade.

    To be clear, the Iron Dragons intend to turn over all of the other ships to Sector Command once they are cleansed, as the Fleet has need of ships that aren't captured pirate vessels. The Raider you can keep.

    You have received a text transmission from Ghaldmoris (Daemon World) that says your transgression will be remembered. Enemy Gained: Ghaldmoris Raiders. Enemy Gained: Warlord Kraktor.

    The Iron Dragons have reviewed the footage of the battle and have noticed that Davos appears to have fought the Emperors Children before, and also bears a personal vendetta against them that borders on murderous insanity.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)10:53 No.18723013
    Or we could use it to give our university a bit of a leg up for the next level in technical science.

    I mean, its leaps and bounds ahead of a Leman Russ tank.

    A joint study of it between our University and the Iron Dragons may yield in us and the Iron Dragons getting better insights in Dreadnoughts and their components.

    I am thinking Jump jet teleoperated Drednought - not even putting your wounded Ancinet superexperienced hounoured Brother into the posibility of death.
    >> Planetary Improvements: You have two free courtesy of Sector Governor TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)11:09 No.18723094
    Spaceports: Build smaller Spaceports in all your cities to boost trade. (50 C)

    Industry: Increase the manufacturing capability of your planet. (30 C)

    Automated Factories: reduce the amount of manual labor needed in manufacturing and increase efficiency. (20 C)

    EMP shielding: Hardens you infrastructure against EMP blasts, which are occasionally used by the Imperium and extensively used by the Tau. (10 C)

    Pollution Collection: Reduce industrial pollution so much that it barely registers on tests while slightly reducing manufacturing efficiency (40 C)

    Recycling: A Hyper-Efficient recycling system that reclaims 80% of the metal glass, plastic, etc that would normally be wasted. Reduces pollution. (45 C)

    Mag-Rail train system: a network of mag-rails that connect all of your major cities and provide the most effective method of shipping bulk goods on the ground. (50 C)

    No Techpriests: Trains civilian Engineers and Technicians up another "level" so that they can understand and care for more advanced machinery without Techpriests. Every time Tech Level is raised two more "Complexity Levels are added. (60 C, currently Complexity Level 3/5)

    Extensive road network: Expands the network of paved roads. (10 C)

    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)11:11 No.18723121
    The Rogue Trader Product Opening Mall and the Media productions from Von Braun Industries on the three conflicts should do the trick. also, if we can get the Ultramarines reconciliated/happy with the whole situation with possible recruitment rights, that sohuld give us quite a reputaion boost.

    dunno about how to repair that Popularity loss from the SoB though - perhaps with having them draw in a lot of Sister hospitalier to aid in the care and tratment of the survivors, while they fund a some effigies in the city reconstruction?

    it would make them somewhat more popular if they dispel the notion that they are the average Order Militant, and they would be temperd by Dasymiran philosophy due to their recruits influx.

    I hope the Von Braun Media Production will increase our popularity at least back to 30, for comemorating and glorifying the heroes and history of Dasymir.
    Also we are autosaging. do we make a new thread or do we keep at it until this one dies and reconvine next week?
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)11:12 No.18723127
    Send the following text message to Ghaldmoris: "NUTS!"
    >> Commissioner of infrastructure, Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)11:14 No.18723143
    Recycling: (45 C)
    Mag-Rail train system: (50 C)
    Industry: (30 C)

    Total Infra: 125 Capital

    And thats going to be ontop of whatever the Millitary reform budget will be.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)11:23 No.18723217

    Advanced Roads: Paved roads made of hundreds of interlocking pieces of super-strong metal covered in a kind of synthi-asphalt. Will simply spring back into place after being deformed by an earthquake, if damage is too severe for it to self repair you can just run a steamroller over the road and re-flatten it. Maintenance is much cheaper, easier, and is needed way less often (30 C)

    Continental Superhighway: A massive highway stretching from the extremes of human settlements and either pole. (10 C)

    Shelters: Cold-War style fallout shelters are built under every home, provide protection against biological attacks and aerial bombing (Unless they're using bunker-busters). (25 C)

    Orbital Bombardment Shelters: Massive shelters built under cities to provide protection for its civilian population against orbital bombardment. Also protects against biological agents. (40 C)

    Redoubts: Buries your PDF bases in mountainsides to protect against Orbital Bombardment, also helps defend against aerial and ground attack. (35 C)

    Fortress: Fortifies your PDF bases against ground assault. Compatible with the above upgrade. (30 C)

    PDF Batteries: Installs Orbital defense Batteries in all of your PDF bases to fight back against enemy fleets (Laser battery and Missile Silo, not as effective as dedicated OD bases). (40 C)

    Planetstrike: Arm your PDF and OD bases with Deathstrike silos so that they can strike at ground targets. (20 C)
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)11:27 No.18723243
    I suggest we take Spaceports and either Recycling or the Mag rail on the two free slots.

    The use a licence bid similar to the farmers for the Automated Factories , or buy it out of our own money and then licence it to other companies- either way we get our money back with some profit or get the upgrade with a minimum of downpayment.

    this leaves 41 to buy shit
    i sugges infrastructure (20), EMP hardening(10) and Paved Roads (10)
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)11:31 No.18723284
    Could there be a potential to upgrade our palace? Perhaps in improving both its fortifications and opulence, but mostly in improving it's administrative capabilities for the running of the world, perhaps through improving the cogitators, better training of bureaucrats etc.?

    Just started reading the quest today btw, really loving it, keep up the good work!
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)11:33 No.18723298
    >infrastructure (20)
    Industry (30).

    We could also do the same as with the grain and my suggested way to aquire automated factories for the mag rail or advanced roads.

    if the economic actors on the planet agree to fund it and install it themselves we gian that upgrade and they gain money - heck we could chip in too.

    also, next turn i hope the media production will bring in some additional revenue, both for Von Braun directly and for Dasymir indirectly through the spaceports via extra publicity.
    >> Commissioner of infrastructure, Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)11:35 No.18723321
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    We can centralize around the main space port with our current industry, the trains and stations will haul insane scope of produce to the main port and ship it away or to the automated factories and then shipped. So I strongly support the combination of those three along with the recyclers to grind the ruined city back into materials.

    The mini Spaceports have no use until we get enough Dosh and people.

    PDF Batteries: (40 C)
    Orbital Bombardment Shelters: (40 C)
    Redoubts: (35 C)

    Total Defence: 115 Capital
    Total Infra: 125 Capital
    Total Exp: 240 Capital

    And the army still needs to be re-equipped...
    >> Remember, you're getting any two of these you pick for free. TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)11:37 No.18723332
    Hardened Infrastructure: Buries all of your water treatment plants, power plants, etc in defensible bunkers, also fortifies train stations, Spaceports and whatnot as much as possible. (30 C)

    Strong Defenses: Increases the number and strength of your Orbital Defense Silos (Laser batteries and missile silos to fire on enemy ships, plus smaller versions of both to shoot down enemy missiles, fighters, and landing craft). (40 C)

    Fortified Silos: Buries your laser batteries underground except for retractable gun barrels and adds ground-attack fortification. (38 C)

    Planetary Fortress: Converts your Fortress into an intimidating Stronghold with Orbital Defense Batteries, Heavy Bolter Turrets, and so much AA and artillery it literally bristles. (50 C, an extra 10 C if you want to keep your Palace pretty)

    Fortress Capitol: Fortifies your Capitol to extreme lengths. (40 C, an extra 10 C if you want to keep it pretty)

    Walls: Builds thick walls around all your cities, good against Orks and Tyranids and useful as a defensive perimeter even when reduced to rubble (20 C)

    Com Towers: Improves ground communications. (10 C)

    Airports: Atmospheric transport infrastructure, great for shuttling passengers and tourists around quickly. (25 C)

    Moon Colony: Exactly what it says on the tin. (30 C)
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)11:41 No.18723372
    Right , regarding the media production issue, a remasterd plan:
    First Von Braun Media Production start a documentary on the recent Raider incursion, atrocities and their vanquismet.
    Then we will hunt down any footage from the genestealer incident and the Tau resistance we can get our hands on. throw reenactments for all three. once we get a solid, accurate documentary series release them for local public consumption.

    Once that is done continue to expand on the material andstart on the Action Movies and A first series of games (FPS, RTS, TBS) for them. Starting with the Tau, continueing with the Tyranids and finishing with Chaos. a nice series of releases that goes for both internal and export markets.

    then once that is done go with a dram series for a overreaching plot from the Tau and going up until reconstruction from the Chaos. The whole shebang and coupled with some RPG and Sim Game.

    Incorporating ideas , parables, cautionary tales, tastefull propaganda and instructional and informative content in all three of them.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)11:50 No.18723428

    >Converts you PALACE into an intimidating Stronghold

    To clear this up in case you're confused, the Sector Governor is pleased with you for killing that Chaos Warband and is giving you ANY two Planetary Improvements off that list for free, plus you can buy any of the ones on that list at any time if you have sufficient funds.


    You begin this undertaking for 10 C.

    I'm going to finish deciding infrastructure, then I'm signing off. Ultramarines can wait until the next thread.

    Next time I'll actually start at 8:00 instead of 10:45 and call it quits at 3:00 AM at the latest.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)11:53 No.18723452
    The things I think we can get the Families and other Ecnomic concernts to buy or fund alongside us, with a distributed recieving on them would be :

    Mag rail, Recycling, and Com Towers. - all can be privatizedand made a serious profit in.

    A second batch we can get support in is from city sized administrations to boost their own infrasturucture, revenue and protection -

    Airports (lower price and i think they would think likewise on leeching on the main space port.), walls, and either roads or advanced roads.

    we have a total of 36 C (41- 35 reconstruction+30 sector given) and 35 C personal.i

    suggest we see about gaining support on those projects, and then fiancing Industry (30) leaving government funds at 6 and use our personal stash to join in with the Firms and pick up their slack if they do slack as well as the proportional profits. - perhaps even chip in with the cities on airports or roads if we can affort them provided we get proportional taxes on the infrastructure usage.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)11:54 No.18723462
    GMT? EST?
    >> Commissioner of infrastructure, Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)12:02 No.18723519
    Recycling: (45 C) <Governors Gift
    Mag-Rail train system: (50 C) <Governors Gift
    Industry: (30 C) <Purchase
    PDF Batteries: (40 C) <Purchase
    Orbital Bombardment Shelters: (40 C) <ON HOLD
    Redoubts: (35 C) <ONHOLD

    Treasury: 41
    Personal Account: 35

    Total Defence: 115 Capital
    Total Infra: 125 Capital
    Total Gifted: -95 Capital
    Total ON-HOLD -75 Capital
    Total Exp: 70 Capital
    Total Remaining: 6 Capital
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)12:03 No.18723532

    I think about 1:00 PM GMT unless I screwed it up, which is highly likely.

    Fuck it, I'm knocking off and leaving this for the next thread. And next time I won't run it into the ground.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)12:04 No.18723539

    Before I go, confirm this? I'm too tired to check the math.
    >> Commissioner of infrastructure, Fightan Man 04/15/12(Sun)12:06 No.18723552
    If we put redoubts and Orbital shelters on hold we can fund this with 6 Capital to spare, so we won't be flat broke and we wont have to sell our souls to the devil to make it happen.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)12:11 No.18723591
    I'll vote on it. I guess.
    Industry is on Von Braun Money , thus the new industry is Von Braun, right? That means it gives its production or profit in C to Von Braun accounts.

    This leaves 1C in gov account and 5 C in VB accounts.

    also did we try and managed to persuade to get families interested in buying :
    >Com Towers: Improves ground communications. (10 C)

    And/ or the city administration into buying one or more of the :

    >Walls: Builds thick walls around all your cities, good against Orks and Tyranids and useful as a defensive perimeter even when reduced to rubble (20 C)

    >Com Towers: Improves ground communications. (10 C)

    >Airports: Atmospheric transport infrastructure, great for shuttling passengers and tourists around quickly. (25 C)
    >Extensive road network: Expands the network of paved roads. (10 C)
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)12:14 No.18723618

    They agree to buy bonds for half the cost (Cost lowered to 5 C)

    Aside from that, not much luck.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)12:16 No.18723633
    it's on a similar System with the farmers,
    the com towers in particualr shouls sound appealing if the comapnies go for it on the city side since it would allow them a social controll on them and a cut on the profits the companies would makefrom their boradcasts, while at the same time getting use of them in case of emergency.

    roads i doubt would be that attractive considering the mag rail, but who knows.

    The walls are something selfexplanatory, and given the options to get them, they ought to be pressed by their voters to get them, i susspect.

    While airports would be apetizing in getting a higher and faster volume of trafic, again revenue for the local administration while at the same time giving themselves a fast way out of doge in case the city gets attacked or a fast way into it , depending on their mentality.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)12:17 No.18723648
    that means they get the com towers, yay.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 04/15/12(Sun)12:22 No.18723705
    in anv case its a good fit, buying Recycling and mag rail on free allows us to get a modicrum of on their use tax them for higher tax income whiel at the same time boosting planetary GDP,

    Industy upgrade out of Von Braun money ought to get us more money for Von Braun while at the same time making Von Braun the major company in industry, and the PDF batteries are required, so bought by our reserves.

    A good fit, i say. - plus a reduction in cost on future upgrades in infrastructure, all in all a good list.

    You can rest satisfied GM, this turn is done, imho
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 04/15/12(Sun)12:27 No.18723762
    A word about the Raiders: The Iron Dragons requested info on them from Sector Command, here's the breakdown:

    Obviously a massive warband, but since the Champion was both a greedy bastard and something of a coward he decided that, instead of invading a planet and fighting a long and grueling war he would probably lose, he would just raid planets with the force of a Chaos Army, pick a particularly wealthy but not too well defended city, loot it, take the population as slaves, and burn it to the ground relying on brute force, strength in numbers, and getting in and out fast to allow them to essentially steal a city. After his Raider (The go-to ship for getting his forces to and from a planet fast) was taken his forces started to lose what little cohesion they had just in time for the Iron Dragons to Deep Strike 9/10ths of their entire Chapter directly into the combat zone, followed by missile bombardment and the Guard moving in as the Anvil to the Iron Dragons hammer. They were slaughtered, and Chapter Master Raltus Ar'kryn literally tore their Champion into pieces. Now Warlord Kraktor is pissed because you exterminated his most disciplined, largest, strongest, and most loyal warband, killed one of his best Champions, and deprived him of his primary source of Tithed loot and slaves. All the other raiders are pissed at you for killing one of their own, but aren't going to risk their necks trying for you after what happened to the Fist of Chaos Warband.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)13:04 No.18724089

    Where Chaos Raiders and Champions go to be vanquished and die.

    I think we are pretty hardcore now. No need to change the Name.

    Daysimir is fine.

    The place where all enemies of the Imperium become food for Daisies.

    Perhaps even mock graves for enemies fallen on Dasymir overgrown with Daisies?
    >> Tgdude 04/15/12(Sun)13:48 No.18724615
    instead of Recycling get No Techpriests as gift.

    Magrail is fine.

    >no water navy? Wtf

    Needs to be adressed sooner than later.
    >> Anonymous 04/15/12(Sun)14:00 No.18724727
    the only use for that would be costal patrool and combat boats and subs to house more Missiles and lasers and deathstrike for stealth planetary contestation and anti orbit in case we get occupied, invaded or loose orbital superiority.

    else, the starting SDF with its first ship the reasigned Raider is more then enough to park itself in orbit and do some Ortilery strikes in support of siad patrool and costal combat boats.

    What we need to get is more sensors (we bought the ones that would let us break through holofields and mimick engines if i remeber corectly) placed all over so the stunt the raider pulled cant be done again. or other stunts.

    but that is for when we have lots of cash and start building space ships.

    now after these infrastructural investments we need to focus on getting better equiped for the PDF and our Guard recruits, deal with the ultramarines in way that puts us politically well, gain more popularity, and gain more money. far, far more money!

    we have that rogue trader intermediary xeno artefact mall, and the Von Braun dynasty. both good ideas that can make a lot of money and a lot of political capital. I hope we can do them in the next thread. or soon.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)14:49 No.18725283
    Woke up out of my sleep and noticed you guys had kicked the shit out of a major Chaos warband despite a few rocky strategic and tactical situations and holes in our defenses.

    Well done, anons, that's some pretty heavy stuff. IMPRESSED.JPG

    Going to make a discussion thread for this quest shortly, because I am a whore and want to write more speeches and all that crap.
    >> Editor 04/15/12(Sun)14:54 No.18725346
    New thread, because I felt like it.

    >ubeff COFFEE
    Good morning to you too, captcha

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