good thinking.

>>18101136

He insists that they'll find you eventually: they are very thorough in their exploration.

Hooray, I didn't miss it, yet!

Also, This Khan is our new target.

If only because they are cribbing our plans!

Our dance fight is hoe down jigs. That's been decided already.

>>18101163

They lack the swamp capable tag so far as he knows.

>>18101198

Indeed you didn't.

>>18101213
Have the demons keep turning him.

If Frank, Flowers, and Shang-Low were mounted on our gwiffons could they get to the frozen city this turn?

Question time:
Do we know of the Khans approximate force strength?

Also, what does promoting a unit do?

>>18101240

No, the Gwiffons are out of move and it would take two turns or so with full more.

>>18101247

Adds abilities and tags, like giving a unit archery, making it a Knight, making it a Warlord, making it a Heavy, etc etc.

>>18101259
Is there a list of tags we can look at?

Could we, say promote a unit to a caster?

>>18101259
wait for wagons. See what we can do with their cargo. Then replace demon drivers with the cheap slashers and send it to the mine to pick up gems the sappers continue to dig.

>>18101276

Nope. Caster, Royal, Mount, Flyer, and Noble are not something a unit generally can be promoted to.

They can be made:

-Knights: Triple unit cost upfront paid, triple upkeep

-Heavy: 2.5 Unit cost, double upkeep.

-Archer: Pay base unit cost, double upkeep.

Let me think if there's more...

>>18101361

The wagons pull into the gate, and the four bored looking Daemons join their comrades.

Within are:

-200 units of fine armor
-200 fine shields
-100 mixed swords and other hand weapons
-50 pikes and halberds
-50 fine bows

>>18101247

Oh, and the Khan has about 2000 units that Smythe has seen so far.

>>18101425
what can we do with these? Can we sell them? turn them into schmuckers? Give them to our units?

>>18101443

Distribute them as you like: they do not appear to be made with magic, but are of such fine craft that they should provide an equipment bonus.

>>18101457
Well then arm the men and women!

>>18101367
But what does that DO?
Archers ad rage, I guess, but what about the others, do they get more damage?

Like, lets say we promoted a bwisp to a knight?

>>18101489

Anyone can shoot a bow or use a ranged weapon in their own Hex, but they automatically get a massive penalty to any sort of accuracy without the Archer tag.

Knight boosts stats and allows the unit to ride a mount. Heavy prevents mounts from being ridden and is a bigger stat boost.

>>18101436
Everybody gets everything for now. Later our best 200 will get the armor and so on. We don't have enough as of now.

Cwoc hunt? Or start off for the city?

>>18101489

The Bwisp would get some stat boosts and a bump in costs.

We could pop 100 stabbers, equip them with armor shields and swords, then have a bunch of awesome soldiers for cheap, it would only cost us 30 a turn for the lot of them.

Unless we should make 12 stacks consisting of a highlander and 7 stabbers, give the armor to them and have 4 sets left over for warlords. That would cost a bunch more and take more time.

Hmm The second one might be better in the long run.

Also, ruling regarding garrison forces: demoting a unit to garrison means it has zero move and reduces it's upkeep by one per turn. Being able to feed a unit from your larders halves it's income. Make of this what you will!!!!

rolled 75 = 75

>>18101576
....Wait... Does larder occur first? or not?

Also, we are so going to be spending, if we ever get besieged, every available shmucker on garrisoned Bwisps.

>>18101576
We should garrison most of the casters then.

I don't know how much they cost in upkeep, but half of that can't be bad

what about Lacky promotions
and there's also mention of Henchmen.

>>18101562
The goal is a Highlander in every non archer stack with Pikers, and archers in rear. Wights around as ambushers. Demons all over the place.

We need to let the Khan come to us. Sending a force loses the swamp with is our biggest advantage. We should build an army yet, especially not one with supclass units just to have an army. We need the mining barbarian city to pay for our army, so that should be priority 1 if we are to survive Khan's onslaught.

>>18101652

Larder is how much food you have stored from farms, hunting, and other productive activities.

>>18101668

Making someone a Lackey doesn't really have much mechanical impact, or so I'll rule it. It is a handy reward for a higher level unit and a means of keeping down lower level recruits though.

>>18101663
our Foolamancer and dateamancer and wierdomancer all need to be able to move. Lookamancer's fine though.

>>18101696
I would like a few more Highlanders and Definitely some hellfire demons to start more of an airforce.

rolled 19 = 19

>>18101702
Do farms and such have a cap on food produced? or is it just: Have farm, food produced, shmuckers pay upkeep?

>>18101738

Farms are limited by size, but combined can feed your entire force currently with quite a bit of surplus for your larder. Under siege you lose access to the five farms outside of your walls though, which is how besieging a place usually works.

>>18101696
we have 100 swords

pikers don't use swords

Might as well make use of them by giving them to stuff with a cheep upkeep.

besides, we need an army to fight an army.

>>18101792
We don't have a pocket to pay an army right now. We going to focus on defense, 50 pikes is nice and it's swords and mixed hand weapons. There was a idea posted about digging trenches with sappers and lining them with pikes? THat guy here? Still like that for later?

>>18101702
Oh, and what about the Chief Caster title?

If it is a useful one could we give it to Liam?

>>18101813

It exists but provides no benefit but organization.

rolled 16 = 16

>>18101777
So there are some mechanics there?

Hm.... I take it Garrisoned Bwisps have no food cost and no upkeep?

>>18101851

Correct. Similarly Slashers also become free.

Wait a minute...

>777

this is nice but we need that city. And cwocs.

>>18101880

You realize that only us, the casters, whisper, and highlanders can actually ride cwocs right? Woof hounds work well enough for now I think, with a few cwocs for highlanders.

rolled 75 = 75

What does it take to set up a new capitle city?
Say in somewhere high in the mountains, basically so we have a defensible position to fight from.

>>18101907

You would need to find a new capital site, which are rare as boop.

So, anything else you want to accomplish this turn?

>>18101896
And the enemy has tons of them. AND WE CAN"T RIDE WOOF HOUNDS. They're a pointless unit for already routed armies.

>>18101907
our swamp is more defensible than a mountain.

rolled 45 = 45

>>18101896
For now... true.

>>18101932
send the wagons on to the mines, replacing the drivers with slashers. Take off towards the city we will awaken.

Guys, I don't think you're looking at combat the right way. Erfworld combat is geometric: he who wins is he who stacks on the most bonuses to his units.

Look at our pikers and slashers: in stacks of eight the difference is thirteen to eleven in terms of combat rating. That isn't much of a difference comparatively.

>>18101960

You lack the move to really get going toward the city, but your slashers and the wagons take off for a few hexes distance until the wagons run out of move... and lack swamp-capable abilities.

>>18101963
3 hits times 4 vs. 5 hits times 4
12 vs. 20
A difference of 8 for each unit leaving a stack of 8 difference being 64. IT's a big damn difference.

>>18101858
Then we should probably make a bunch of Slashers and garrison them as soon as they pop. Whisper should take a bunch of archers and pikers and walk around the swamp killing/beating up shit. She really needs to level up a bit.

>>18101994
We need Liam attached to the convoy to make sure they receive swamp capable.

We need an army, we need it now.

Not 30 turns from now, when the khan is bearing down on us.

>>18101996

What on earth are you talking about? A piker winds up with a score of thirteen, only two higher than a slasher. What do you mean difference of eight?

>>18101996
Hits is HP, not a number of attacks.

>>18102017
Can we promote them to swamp capable?

It will be worth the cost, and save juice for more important things.

>>18101994
have Liam fix them up. And wait for next turn to leave. Then leave with Shang, Flowers, and Frank boosted under Liam's magic.

>>18102033
Cwoc-driven boatwagons. Hell yeah.

Can we stop deciding to leave with a small force of almost all our casters towards a city that may decide to attack us instead if we muck up diplomacy

>>18102017
>>18102034

You send Liam to handle the matter.

>>18102033

You cannot.

>>18102018

Do you have units to queue?

>>18102031
okay then 8 units times 5 is 40 hit points vs. 24 with slashers.

Really it should be 7 with a Highlander. So 32 vs. 16. Twice as many.

>>18102066
shit bad math. 7 times 5 =35 vs. 21.

>>18102055

Let's send Daemons as an envoy then: they can fly and have turnamancy. Halston can tell us if this will work.

>>18102065

Yes, can we get a stack or two of hellfires, and a few stacks of slashers for a garrison force?

>>18102055
already confirmed to just want to be waken up. The casters are there to:
do the diplomacy- Flowers
hide us if we need to run away- Shang.

>>18102088
turnamancy of a different sort is needed here. We need Frank at least.

>>18102091
Here's a question then to decide if this is safe,
could they just capture and turn us to wake up?

>>18102066
Sure, our pikers are simply better but slashers are more useful as garrison units because they're cheaper (therefore more can be made) and free on upkeep.

>>18102099

No, what kind of message would it send for the king to go as his own envoy? It implies we have nothing better to do.

I say we get some hellfires, and go out with whisper and some others on cwoc croaking missions while we pop units, build up, and our envoys go to the city.

>>18102105
all their leadership is croaked. That's why they're frozen. Shang is there to hide us. Frank's our best fighter. Flowers can lure them over if anyone can, that's his magic ability.

>>18102091
OK, how about this: demons + Frank + Whispers stacked with archers on a megalogwiff + Flowers?

>>18102113
We also have 100 slasher-type weapons just lying around the place.

>>18102121
All at novice level though and if we are looking for allies and cash why not the fish guys?

rolled 67 = 67

We need to get shang to level up his magic. Have him disguise as many units as possible every turn.

And what else do we need to do this turn?

Also, for those of you working the math out, why not use the IRC chat for that? #titanswill

>>18102118
We don't want to send any army. We don't need to. We need an envoy and without heirs, Frank is the best choice. If you want to take the demons, it'll slow us down.

>>18102118
It doesn't imply shit, we can control most of our kingdom through B-Link

>>18102147
I keep getting disconnected from that channel for some reason

>>18102155
Whisper is a countess and as royalty sends a good message so why should we go when we can instead spend the time levelling in raids or against cwocs

>>18102139
fish guys are our prey. We have plans for them. We're still hiding and a frozen city allows us to continue that.

>>18102138 so we should waste money we need to upgrade the city?

>>18102178
Whisper doesn't fucking talk. That's why she's named "WHISPER". She'd be the worst messenger.

So your queue:

-16 Hellfire Skirmishers (They pop this turn)
-92 Slashers

Maybe a few others?

>>18102105

An intriguing question: no, since you would then be a ruler without a capital, so you would turn barbarian and the city would remain neutral.

>>18102202
no to the slashers. yes to demons.

That means we're safe from that at least. Shang can hide us if we need to run. Make sure we don't arrive at the city with no move left. If it takes an extra turn, so be it.

>>18102181
Considering the high costs for upgrading we are better off increasing upkeep slightly and using the troops to go for high reward raids(we can do the amount required for a positive return if you want). also >>18102191 sends the message of the city being important enough for nobles to be involved while our dateomancer can do the talking

>>18102202
Just wondering what weapons do wight-foots use since they would be more useful when upgraded.

>>18102214
send Frank. He'd be welcomed with open arms. We also, are there first hand which is a necessity.

>>18102235

Dirks mostly.

>>18102235
No, weight-foots are never useful, goddamn why do you guys keep drooling over them?

They suck as scouts (hello bwisps!), they are bad for combat (even slashers are more cost-effective), their movement is worse than one of the flying units we can pay for, and we have a damned foolamancer for stealth ops and a lookamancer for spying!

Just forget about them already, pretend they don't exist until after we are well underway, and then we can see if they have a use en-mass.

>>18102213

Roll if there is disagreement on the Slashers then.

If nothing else end turn?

>>18102213
Yes to the slashers, they cost no upkeep and we need SOMETHING to be able to fight with when we are inevitably attacked.

We can sack them later if need room.

>>18102284
they are useful for their bonus to ambush. Since we are going to be invaded by Khan, they'll have a place.

Also I say no to slashers, for now at least.

>>18102303
552 schmuckers is nothing to sneeze at right now. Don't throw it away because you feel like popping something.

rolled 3 = 3

>>18102288

If >50 then slashers.

>>18102334
there. End turn.

>>18102334

You pop only sixteen Hellfire Skirmishers through Abigail!

Your airspace is now filled with Daemons frolicking in the sky.

rolled 41 = 41

>>18102288
Voting in favor of slashers.

Why? We can get them to run raids into the swamp, and work on getting them leveled. one shmuker a turn is fine, and we can garrison most of them just so we dont even incure that expense.

>>18102357
That night have Magicians that are in the city drain themselves to add to our airspace defenses.

>>18102366
We should reduce number of slashers though since 92 is unnecessarily large, I'm saying about 60 with 40 for garrison and 20 for raids with existing units and new warlord

You end the turn on this high note!

Morning comes, and you have the first turn, seemingly indicating no nearby units. You try out the mushroom and cwoc soup this morning, and discover that it is delicious.

Sometime during the walk down to the dungeons the Hobgobwin turned while the Daemons worked on him. However, Hobgobwins only have the reproductive function whenever they are a natural ally: forcibly shifting them to your side does not grant you a natural ally in the form of a new side split from the old one, only a new unit under your own side.

Sapper miners on their way back on foot it would seem, and may arrive this turn.

Also, Smythe calls by Bwisp saying he has news in the war room best heard in person.

>>18102410
TO THE WAR ROOM!

>>18102381

(They have been doing so on their own initiative for a while now. A number of your units have been doing things like that.)

>>18102357
Give them all fiddles.
Our Capital will be filled with the sound of music
Fiddles, banjos, and acoustics.

We'll have the most deadly square dancing fighting, rooting tootenist knee slappenist hoedown battles when the Khan comes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgvfRSzmMoU

>>18102319
No, it's not to pop "something"

It's to pop a necessary defense. We are wide open right now. and we are about to try and recruit another city with less than 100 units on our side, in a game world where battle takes place on a scale with 1000's of units.

What kind of suicide is that?

Yes, they are level one cheep-ass throw away units. The purpose of said units to to use them before you are established. Lets just look at the facts.

Fact: We aren't established
Fact: We are severely understaffed.
Fact: They will garrison for free
Fact: That mine gives us a few grand every few turns. This will more than make up the down payment
Fact: We have weapons and armor and shields for them to make them really cost-effective.
Fact: we can reallocate any gear we give them now, to some better unit later.
Fact: There is a bloodthirsty Khan with 200+ units who is interested in what our swamp holds.

Damn right I am mad about this.

>>18102424

Smythe wordlessly points at a map of the nearby plains he has made (and one I could theoretically make in pain later). Five capital cities are marked, and something like twelve non-capital cities. Smythe says that their present color (they are drawn in livery to match their owners) changed this morning. Three cities, including one Side's capital have shifted to green and orange. The Khan is working fast.

Smythe indicates that more units are repositioning themselves for similar efforts against two more sides by their next turn, and that half the alliance should be done in another Turn. He is uncertain as to who will be their next target after the coalition is finished.

He draws something else on the map: a few blips flying away in the direction of the south. He says that this is the location of the fallen side's heir.

>>18102445

>>18102467
the other side can't attack us. They are frozen. We leave their hex. They freeze.

Khan, the real threat, won't hit us for a long time.

>>18102497
You are going about it all wrong, I'm not worried about the city attacking.

What kind of city wants an ally who can't provide backup?

Right now we can't provide backup. We aren't ally material, yet.

>>18102477
We need the mining city and fast. Frank, Shang, Flowers, Archers on megaogwiffen belly, using Liam's magic away to the city this turn.

>>18102534
We can unfreeze them. Flowers said they'd be fine with us. Already confirmed.

>>18102477
Fallen sides heir?
What mounts do they fly?

At present, they're Barbarians, possible to hire, and in their desperate state, might do so just for the upkeep.

I agree with popping stacks of slashers, we get them for no upkeep, and they can train in the fields to slowly level on their own. At present, we have only a single level 2 unit, a Piker that dropped a cwoc. (Besides the demons we bought at their increased levels)The Khan? May have many high level units and warlords.

>>18102477
how far are the heir's stack? Will they pass by the swamp?

>>18102572

They fly Pegasaurs, winged horse-dinos. They are from a side in gold and white livery.

>>18102585

They will skirt nearby on their way to the port city.

Welp, lemme know when you guys have questions or a plan.

>>18102609
OKAY EVERYBODY!

What if we were to offer safe haven to the heirs? They would be indebted to us, they would want to keep quiet about us to protect themselves, and we'd look like big damn heroes. We can lie and hide the bit about raiding the wagons, it was KHAAAAAAAAAAN!

>>18102609
Smythe, guesstimate their move and where they'll end up next turn
I want a Highlander and stack of archers with me, and three demon legates. We'll make them barbarian mercs under us, or practice.
We fly out to parlay, while the rest of you ready to march to the barbarian mining town.

>>18102641
nonononononono. Frank should not go and no troops should go to the frozen city. They have no need to and its too far with their movement.

rolled 40 = 40

>>18102597
Can we get one of our casters to go through the magical kingdom to warn the cities under threat of Khan? Maybe offer them shmuckers to build a defense? Make them indebted to us if they survivue, or if they dont we find a way to nab their casters?

>>18102630

Have one demon go to Liam, get boosted for multiple turns and go with a bwisp, and be our envoy. That shows we aren't a threat, risks little, and if halston says it'll work it probably will. We go to meet this wayward noble ourself on gwiffons with a highlander, whisper, and hellfires at our back

rolled 77 = 77

>>18102667
Not the frozen city bub. THe heirs.
Derp it up.

>>18102708

If you did something like that you might piss off the Magic Kingdom, but it is viable to make contact through the portals.

>>18102641
they're not going to be simple to croak and people will come looking for them. I don't know about going anywhere near them, but if we do, it has to be under friendship. I don't think Frank should go, if they're good fighters, we're done.

Here is the plan:

Pop the stabbers, we are going to need them here in a few turns. That Khan is moving too fast to put it off any longer.

Rescue the heir, it's a good bargening chip for an alliance, or another general/caster that we can get for Free. and I know how much you guys hate spending money. We should rescue the heir ourselves, this makes us look like a badass and gives up the "good first impression" bonus to loyalty.

send expedition out to frozen city. Whisper is the only other candidate for this right now, give her some archers.

>>18102716
> while the rest of you ready to march to the barbarian mining town.

I'm saying that's a dumb idea. Nobodies going to the frozen city that isn't on gwiffons.

rolled 2 = 2

>>18102726
Not capture the casters through the portal. No thats not what I meant. I meant that if things go pearshaped for those sides, then we can go in and secure the casters through alternate means, basically bolster the defenses well enough and then when they die, the Khan will be weakened and we can go do a raid.

We could always wait a turn before heading to the city and use the new warlord.

>>18102756
again, WHISPER CAN"T FUCKING TALK. Frank goes to talk to heir, or he leaves for the mining city. One or the other.

>>18102779
Ziggs don't do it. Pissing off the magic kingdom is too big a deal. It's not worth the risk.

>>18102779

Viable.

>>18102779
The magic nation is painfully neutral, they don't help war efforts, like ever.

This includes running messengers.

We are going to have to contact them a different way, we can't risk having all the casters know about us so soon.

>>18102788
>WHISPER CAN"T FUCKING TALK.
When the hell did this happen?
She was the one who told us her name!

>>18102788
And you can't read.

Frank is going for the heir, that is in the plan.

>>18102825
and has spilled spaghetti every time. Her name is Whisper because she doesn't talk much.

>>18102842
then we wait for the city. We can't conduct a meeting with them through bwisp.

So the plan is:

-Mount up and meet up with heir party incoming
-Pop some units
-Ask Halston about potential solutions to the frozen city proplem

Yes?

>>18102848
>dosn't talk often
>can't talk

MASSIVE DIFFERENCE

>spilled spaghetti
She is a noble, she has to know diplomacy, it's a requirement.

>>18102904
that works with me depending on the units

>>18102917
bad negotiator. wait for new warlord or Frank to become available. It's just Fate, a girl who whispers isn't a talker.

>>18102637

Allies are nice when they're in positions of strength, but with these we'd just be getting, at best, high level Barbarians. We'd need to have enough strength on our capital site at all times to make sure we could could kill any Barbarian ally that decided to try an assassination to take over our capital site for themselves.

OR we will need that other city site. The one that's populated by lost units. We could house our barbarians there relatively safely and keep the capital site's location a secret.

We should ask Countess Whisper what she thinks, as well as get advice from Halston and Abigail. Abigail is older than we are, this is Halston's area of specialty, and Whisper might have think of something that the others might not. So far we haven't talked much to her, I'd like to see how she thinks a little.

>>18102953
>We should ask Countess Whisper what she thinks, as well as get advice from Halston and Abigail. Abigail is older than we are, this is Halston's area of specialty, and Whisper might have think of something that the others might not. So far we haven't talked much to her, I'd like to see how she thinks a little.
That is reasonable

Regarding units:
If we need to build something (and we kinda do) how about, say, three stacks of 7 slashers + a Highlander, and two stacks of 8 archers?

>>18102930

Okay, so voting on units.

>>18102953

You consult Halston, Abigail, and Whisper.

1d100 for Date-a-Mancy

>>18102930

I agree, but only because we shouldn't send Whisper until we know how she thinks. Once we know her, if she seems suitable, then we can make an informed decision . After all, there's a whole style of diplomacy based around whispering and carrying a big stick.

rolled 84 = 84

>>18102999

Rolling

>>18102999

>999

At least it isn't one of the other numbers.

rolled 30 = 30

>>18102999

>>18102999
I'd like archers, pikers, and a highlander in every non-archer stack. Don't need them for archers. Would like two half stacks of woof-hounds to be used for odd jobs. Maybe some more bwisps, don't know how much of the swamp is currently covered. Also, the sapper-trench idea, is it doable? If yes, then that too.

>>18102930
Her name is Whisper because she is an archer, and also implied to be stealthy.

>>18103015

Halston weighs the options and examines the candidates in turn: Whisper, your Royal person, and a few of Abigail's choicer legates. He declares one or two of the Daemons lesser choices, but between yourself, Whisper, and a few of the choicer Daemons he says any of you has a good chance of success.

>>18102953
>>18102992
>>18103009

Abigail advises you to take in and nurture the heir: she seems to be in favor of trying to work out some sort of way to establish a link with them so that we can reinstall the heir later under our thumb.

Halston advises that you get groovy with everybody, since everyone but the Doomenorians should be playing nice at the moment. He thinks the heir goes well with just about everybody.

Whisper listens for a bit. Then she asks more questions: Does the heir seem unbalanced? Does the heir seem the ambitious type? Weak or strong? Is he headed into the arms of what he hopes are allies who will reverse the invasion of his kingdom? She thinks that the heir is simply a minor piece in a bigger puzzle.

>>18103067

Everything has Significance in Erfworld. The Titans attach Signs to every aspect of existence. A name is an important piece of the puzzle for the signamancy of a person.

>>18103061

>sapper-trench idea, is it doable

Some variation of it, yes. Your minions can easily work out the details.

>>18103061
Highlanders for every stack can wait for now we should just focus on getting a few higlanders and bringing them up in level against natural units maybe flanked by the woof hounds (since right now they are the only land-based combat unit that can keep up with mounts). Because of that it's either involve important units in every combat since we can only ave one highlander or mix woof-hounds in with the faster units.

voting stabbers, it's the best option at this time.

Everything else is for the long haul, we might not have a long hall if we don't do the short game.

>>18103085
Yes, but there is more than one meaning to any word.

The key is picking out the right meaning.

>>18103095
then the revised list is 3 stacks of archers, (4*7) 28 pikers, 4 highlanders, 8 woof-hounds separated into 2 stacks, and 5? sappers to start digging trenches.

If we're going to do this, we need to do this right. Slashers are a weak indecisive unit that we'll regret. This starter force is great for raids and later on. If we want more, then just keep to this proportion.

>>18103080
>Whisper listens for a bit. Then she asks more questions... She thinks that the heir is simply a minor piece in a bigger puzzle.

Oh I like this one! She's asking all the right questions, and has a reasonable conclusion.

Very well, she can pick her own assignment as a reward: Would she rather parlay with the heirs, or go on the trip to bring the lost city to our side?

Secretly I'm betting she'll pick the heirs, but whichever assignment she takes will tell us something about her.

rolled 36 = 36

>>18103080
Ask Smythe those questions. Have him Look.

>>18103150

>8 woof-hounds separated into 2 stacks
>2 stacks with only a +4 bonus to each
>not 1 stack with a +8 bonus to each

That's not how you erfworld son!

>>18103165
you just want to save face. You have taken anything he said as an excuse to send her. She stays in the backlines like an archer.

>>18103168

Smythe informs you that the Heir is...

3d20

>>18103176
they're just for their movement. I figure 2 quick moving stacks is more useful than 1. Wont be used for heavy fighting, just snapping up scouts.

rolled 10, 7, 17 = 34

>>18103204
come on daddy needs something gullible

>>18103165
I'm still against her doing anything. Flowers is better than her, and we have a new warlord next turn.

rolled 3, 16, 9 = 28

>>18103204
Rolling Like a shenangin

>>18103217

Hrm... 2d16

>>18103219
>Hurp durp. Casters are superior in every possible way. Fighters suck cocks.

rolled 2, 8 = 10

>>18103237
dammit is this another caster?

>>18103238
>hurp durp. His magic power is seeing relationships, he's probably a terrible diplomat.

>>18103080
Does etiquette exist in the Erfworld? Could the fact that we're Royal mean anything in our parlay with the heir? If yes, then we should probably head towards the heir personally and leave the barbarians to the envoys.

>>18103150
We won't regret slashers, they are upkeep FREE.

What we will regret, is Long term planning in a short term war.

>>18103275
they are weak units. Buying them to see them fail or scrapping them to replace them with pikers later is foolish.

rolled 1, 2 = 3

>>18103237
>>18103248
If it is, we are promoting it to HEAVY or KNIGHT so that it is warrior-capable.

>>18103248

Surprisingly not.

He tells you the Signamancy of the heir is this: a buxom young woman, perfectly calm and collected. She wears an exotic dress suited for the sunny lands to the West, her black hair flows in the wind, a thin but deadly looking blade at her side, and her icy blue eyes haven't so much as a care showing in them.

>>18103295
I WANT TO MARRY HER

>>18103291
X slashers + Y pikers > X slashers
X slashers + Y pikers > Y pikers

>>18103291
They are FREE units, saving up money is what we are trying to do now.

Sitting on nothing is even more foolish.

>>18103306
x + y = hella expensive

>>18103317
Slasher cost fuck all to pop and nil to upkeep.

>>18103295
A busty asian woman in a bright red dress with a katana?

Mount the megagwiffon.

Your orders? Other than marriage that is.

>>18103331
They are plenty to upkeep when we want to save for upgrading the city. It's very weak right now.

>>18103342
how many Asians have blue eyes?

>>18103348
SLASHERS COST 0 UPKEEP WHEN GARRISONED
THEY COST LESS THAN 500 TO GET ALL WE NEED


>>18103347
We are getting slashers.

Also, talk to the new chick.

>>18103348
Their upkeep is 1 per slasher. If garrisoned, their upkeep drops to 0. Thus we get free garrison units (also, farmers) and free pikers and archers for field work.

>>18103358
Just one?

The Titans Will It!

she obviously isn't asian.

>>18103375

meant to say cost, not upkeep. 500 is plenty for a weak unit.

You decide to go and meet her yourself. Halston's augurs are inconclusive: the threads are carefully balanced here, and easily tipped if pushed right, or wholly solid if pushed another way.

You also queue up some sort of weird slasher/piker monstrosity created by a horror from your deep subconscious mind... not. Roll off, d100.

>>18103375
Good argument lets pop them slashers.

rolled 17, 20, 19 = 56

>>18103347
Were mounting up. Megagwiffon, our gwiffons, demons too. Full stacks for combat just in case things go pearshaped. By pearshaped I mean they attack, if they choose not to join us, thats fine.

wait, how can we have units with 0 upkeep? Just asking.

rolled 41 = 41

>>18103402

rolled 64 = 64

>>18103428
feeding them from our larder cuts upkeep in half, while garrison reduces upkeep by 1.

For two upkeep normally, they are halved to one, and reduced by one to zero.

Thus zero upkeep.

Can any unit carry items? If yes, we could make a conveyor belt of cheap units to transport gems from the mine to the castle: a unit takes gems, walks to the nearby hex, gives gems to the units occupying the hex, returns to starting position. Repeat until gems are in our treasury on the same turn they're excavated.

>>18103428

Fed the way some low level barbarians and natural allies are in the wild: the hard way, but easy thanks to our resources.

>>18103438

Rolling in favor of?

>>18103426

You take off! You will meet them in 1-2 turns.

>>18103402
Does LIam get the wagons working? Can he boost us?

Reposting unit list

>>18103459

He gets them working.

>>18103449

Yes, though no one but warlords, casters, and rulers have wallets, but others can carry manually.

rolled 61 = 61

>>18103402
pop this:>>18103150

>>18103459

Oh, and he's close enough to boost you selectively: boosting the Daemons this turn let's you for sure reach the stack next turn.

>>18103478

You queue it up, and Whisper is in charge while you are gone.

>>18103462
can we get demons listed together?

rolled 28 = 28

>>18103486
No, we are popping slashers!

rolled 49 = 49

>>18103402
>>18103453
I don't even know, all I saw was roll 1 d100.

So naturally, I rolled.

Anything left to do this turn?

rolled 78 = 78

>>18103150
Fuck sappers and hounds, but otherwise this.

Also, where are our units currently located?

>>18103541
roll for our new warlord?

>>18103546
no rerolls.

>>18103190

Different dudes, bro. I'm the bro that just wanted to find out what's on her mind. the other dude wanted to send her to the city.

I think we should be encouraging units that can think, and like I said, Whisper asked the right questions. She's got Leadership, she's a Royal, she's got the capacity to ask the right questions. That's good enough to make her worth encouraging.

The setup Don King had in Transylvito for his leadership corps pre-Parson was very solid, we should emulate it. To do that means making sure good Warlords get rewards.

>>18103546

Liam and the wagons are outside. Sappers mining and carting. Bwisps patrolling. Everyone else is split between the capital or with you.

>>18103548

Pops turn 11, this was turn 9 yes? Or did I lose track?

end turn. and can we get an updated list of what we own? The old thread 404'd

I'm thinking 1 highlander, x slashers(however many is agreed upon) and 10 hounds. The hounds and the highlander can train with the new warlord as a mobile unit in the swamp. anyways unless you want only mounted units for rushes we will need fast units like hounds.

Turn 10! The heir, now a barbarian, moves up close to the swamp! You can see her retinue as you approach. It includes:

-The Heir
-A Warlords and three Knights
-Two stacks of Orlies
-Their mounts, Pegasaurs

Your approach?

>>18103662

Signal them and fly in and talk at edge of hex. We can take them right?

>>18103662
we approach in a non battle formation. We don't get too close and try not to scare them.

rolled 70 = 70

>>18103691
This, as we can always restack as necessary.

"Hail to the and well met stranger! What brings such fine people into my humble territory?"

Or some cheasy line,

Wait are we trying to woo her or capture her?

>>18103696
>>18103691
>>18103686

You break your stack and approach the edge of the hex next to them alone, signaling to them as your units hang back. You see them debate for a minute, then she gestures and moves up to the Hex border accompanied by her two Warlords. She comes up close and sizes you up without changing her expression in the least.

"I see that I'm not the only one who thinks it's a fine day for flying. I would warn you about going further in that direction though," she nods back the way she came, "there's a rather large pack of Hobgobwins who might not care to see you pass."

Diplomacy!

>>18103750
Yes, we captured one of their scouts. He told us much. I am King Frank Marion, the Swamp Fox. These are my merry cohorts.... Then wait to see if she introduces herself.

rolled 91 = 91

>>18103750
Are we rolling for diplomacy?

>>18103763

"Yes, we've bumped into them here and there. I am King Frank Marion, the Swamp Fox. These are my merry cohorts."

"Oh, I see. So you chose to take their ultimatum then? If that's the case would you mind moving from our path? We mean you no trouble, but we really should be getting to our rendezvous as we have allies waiting for us."

"No, not really. I'm not the sort that tithes to wild packs of Hobgobwins who come pillaging through the area."

"Oh, well lovely. I am Queen Veris, and this is my retinue. I don't believe I am familiar with your livery, perhaps you are from far away?"

>>18103779

Not yet, but if I make you I may use this roll.

>>18103811
I'm from the swamp. That's why I'm called the SWAMP FOX.

>>18103811

No, shhh, don't be silly. You're my waifu.

>>18103811
I run a newly popped hidden city. I can't help but notice that you seem to be in a hurry. May I ask what a Queen is doing speeding though the countryside with so little protection.


>OOC I'd like her to admit she needs our help. That her side is all dead and she has nothing in the world. Then we offer help.

>>18103811
From lands unknown, as the titans see fit.
But not too far away, to not know of a little barbarian, fleeing the destruction of her people.

It was either Fear or Signamancy that brought you here today, but it is my will, that brings me here to see the sunflower. If you continue to flee to the port, you risk the khans wrath falling on them, instead, stack up with me, and we shall take you to sanctuary.

>>18103827
>>18103830
Don't tell her these

>>18103811
We are interested in working against great khan. Also we may provide refuge to disposed leaders.

>>18103811
"Not as far away as you would think. In fact, I happen to be preparing to deal with these Hobgobwins due to their dangerously close proximity. And, as it just so happens, I have just recently came into a bit of information that you and your friends might wish to hear about this threat."

I was hoping it would be Kirk.

>>18103874
Even with Kirk, the encounter would still end in sex.

>>18103811

"No, not at all. I'm a new King. My holdings, situated as they are in the swamp, will take time for the hobgoblin Khan to find. I have no doubt he will find them though, and I would greatly value the opinion of one who has faced him as to how best prepare to face him. I understand that you have allies who await you, but could you spare some time for me? At the very least I'd like to be able to offer you and yours hospitality for the evening. Warm rooms surely beat camping on the edges of the swamp."

>>18103827
>>18103870
>>18103860
>>18103846
>>18103844


"I'm from a nearby city here in the swamp, though removed by a degree from the outside world."

"Well then, might I extend an official invitation to attend the coalition meeting then?"

"Another coalition?" You quirk an eyebrow so that she will know that you know what's going on.

"Oh yes. An outside power has taken an interest in putting affairs in the area aright. As the leader of an isolated and vulnerable nation you should probably seek patronage in our councils. I might be inclined to speak favorably of you as neighbors."

"Well, that might be a bit of a hassle, since I intend to deal with this rabble myself soon enough."

"Oh, I should dearly love to see that. Perhaps another turn?"

"Certainly. If you seek sanctuary within my walls, I would be happy to give you a front row seat to my victory."

Now it's time to roll 1d100, if you want to convince her to move.

>>18103874

Oddly enough there is a Kirk nearby.

rolled 41 = 41

>>18103895
FOR WAIFU

rolled 87 = 87

>>18103895

Rolling.

>>18103894

Have him say most of this, though.

rolled 93 = 93

>>18103895

>>18103901
>>18103899
>>18103905
that's two out of 3 near 90.

>>18103895
Damn, didn't get to use that 91.

>>18103895
arent you using this roll?>>18103779

rolled 31 = 31

see, the way I figure it, were rolling her roll.

Also, we need to mention the possibility of her allies not having any particular reason to save her side.

More than anything we need to mention we're completely hidden and nobody knows about us. And we plan to stay that way until we're ready to kill khan.

>>18103905
>>18103901
>>18103899

(I think I may start averaging the first three rolls from now on, since I won't be tossing you any other life rafts.)

"Oh, but we are very pressed to make it there before we are any tardier."

"But you are missing out on an opportunity if you merely pass by. My hholdings, situated as they are in the swamp, will take time for the hobgoblin Khan to find. I would greatly value the opinion of one who has faced him as to how best prepare for my campaign against him. I understand that you have allies who await you, but could you spare some time for me? At the very least I'd like to be able to offer you and yours hospitality for the evening. Warm rooms surely beat camping on the edges of the swamp. Besides, how would you like to come to the alliance meeting better than as you are? You can go now with a handful of supporters, a purse full of Schmuckers, and a legitimate claim, or you can go as someone who brings news of an entrenched ally in the region who is quite prepared to keep out the Khan?"

"I'm quite certain I can bring such tidings without the stop over."

"Ah, but you can't be quite certain that they are true, nor will it seem to them that you are particularly involved in such affairs if you did not at least treat with us before acting as our herald."

She purses her lips in thought.

"May I have a moment to consult with my advisors?"

how much longer after this OP?

>>18103956

Honestly? I can go for at least another hour personally.

rolled 39 = 39

>>18103954
Of course you may. But pray, do not tardy as there are still a multitude of events we must deal with in regards to our capital. Time is Shmuckers, after all.

>>18103954
Offer to show her the recently turned Hob we just captured. Then offer to have him give her the vital information on the Khans forces if she comes to ask him.

>>18103954
so can demons sneakily turnamance her? Like without throwing her in the dungeon like the goblin? Maybe they work with the foolamancer?

>>18103954

"Of course. I'll be right here."

Roll 2d100

rolled 61, 88 = 149

>>18103975
check your breath.

Oh god, do we have those stabbers?

Having a fully garrisoned army of a few hundred at the fort will inspire a feeling of safety.

>>18103973

It would be hard, and likely to fail or be noticed.

rolled 40, 89 = 129

>>18103975
Dice do something awesome
please.

>>18103980
what about her retinue?

We do need to send a message back to Rodrom to prepare for a queen. Did the brewer/ bar hall spawn yet?

>>18103978

You have >>18103150 and anything you queue this turn or already had.

>>18103995
Ok then queue up 90 or so stabbers

We need to show some kind of force.

>>18104004
nope. don't.

>>18103992

Likely to end poorly similarly. Presumably that's been built.

>>18103991

She returns after a few minutes of hearing her Warlords disagree in polite, professional tones.

"Very well, we do not mind accompanying you back to your city if you will ally with us and think you can accommodate our entry."

Stopping for them to regain their move this turn, it will take roughly two turns to return to your capital should you ally with them. You may set production remotely as much as you like though.

>>18104018

"The question is can you accommodate my entry?"

>>18104004

Nah, 92 slashers would be better, no upkeep cost with our farms.

>>18104004
NO! We can't spent money at a drop of a hat or we'll end up just like the barbarian city we're aiming to capture.

Sure, make 3 or 4 stacks of 8, but not 90. Also, while at that, order to make a conveyor as described in >>18103449
>>18103449

rolled 33 = 33

>>18104010
You be quiet.
>>18103995
Lets que up some highlanders, some Legionarres. and a some more stabbers

>>18104030
Liam's making our wagons magically swamp boats.

>>18104018
Get word to Shang-Low-Bill to make our City look really nice.

OP ask her what all she has unitwise before allying. Is this all?

rolled 7 = 7

>>18104018
Very good. Now,

BARBARIAN CITY!
how should we deal with it?

>>18104029
fine then 92 stabbers it is.

>>18104030
They don't cost upkeep, therefore money isn't an issue.

>>18104038
Demons we have to be present for.

Do 5 stacks of slashers. Not fucking 90. And actually do 5 times 7 slashers. And 5 highlanders.

>>18104046

"Now, are these all of the guests I am likely to be accommodating, or were you expecting more?"

"Oh no, I wouldn't want to impose on you with more guests."

A Bwisp signals that you have mail. A quick glance at the war room displays that another side in the alliance is taken, leaving only two capitals. The second capital the hobs moved on seems to have resisted more skillfully than the last three.

>>18104053
They do cost to pop. Don't waste money idiot.

>>18104029

No innuendo. We barely know her.

>>18104046
>Liam's making our wagons magically swamp boats.
We can't rely entirely on Liam, he may be more useful not wasting juice on trivial stuff.

>>18104078
He can make them magic items. He doesn't have to be constantly driving them.

>>18104050
Send Countess Whisper.

She is smart enough to get the job done. Ask her what kind of units she would like to accompany her. She is the defacto Chief Warlord at the moment.

>>18104078
In this case? We get several thousands of shmuckers a turn simply because of him using juice.

I do not see how that is a trivial use of juice.

>>18104083
Don't send her. We have another warlord coming and might be able to use the Queen. At very least the date-a-mancer is a better choice.

>>18104050
I would suggest letting Khan's forces touch it first, and get their asses kicked.(they are 200 versus a stronghold with a 1000 right?)
Then we come in, mop up Khans forces, and take the weakened city ourselves.

This is assuming I am remembering everything correctly.

OP, could you give me the following?
>Neutral City level and estimate of forces
>Estimate of Khan's forces heading this way.
>Is the Neutral city between us and the advancing forces?

>>18104094
its hidden too and that's a bad idea.

>>18104081
He can't make magic items yet.
>>18104072
It's not wasting money. period.
We are popping slashers.

>>18104038
And that brewery, with a connected bar for fiddle playing.

>>18104094

>Neutral city level and forces
Looks like a thinly defended level 1 city.
>Estimate of Khan's forces heading this way.
Around 3000 veterans, possibly more if they can pop units on a whim.
>Is the Neutral city between us and the advancing forces?
No, it's by the mountains. You are between the two.

>>18104103
He should be able to do more stuff by now. We've used him every turn. We wouldn't he be able to?

So you are popping slashers then, or stabbers? I'm a bit lost.

pop 40 slashers. No highlanders as they are expensive.

>>18104137
The ones that garrison for free with all that trickery.

>>18104111
Ah, ok, i completely screwed that one up

If possible, once we can muster enough forces, go and take the neatral city, hard and fast. Loosing men is better than loosing time here, i would think.

As for Khan, place stacks of Wight foots at the edge of the swampland in a honey comb formation, with wisp support to keep an eye out. Order them to croak any scouts and vanguards as quickly and quietly as possible. Priority on enemy warlords. None of his units should be swamp capable, so this should hold his advancement some and buy us time.

>>18104153
we don't have to fight them. go read the previous threads. We can get them to join us just by showing up and giving them that option.

>>18104070

"Ah. My caster has informed me that another capital has fallen. It appears they made the horde pay for it though."

>>18104152
>>18104139

You queue around 40 slashers.

>>18104153

You send a note to Whisper indicating that she should deploy a response unit of Wight Foots near your border.

End turn?

there is a road that leads straight through the swamp and to our capitol. it's the one that the wagons came in on. We should get a spell to turn it to swamp.

>>18104137
As I understand it we are poping enough slashers to man the farms and other citys things, and we are poping enough sappers to dig in the mine

>>18104111
3000+ units looking for a fight
And some idiots are still against free upkeep troops.

>>18104176
that was done a long time ago

We have to be able to take 3000 units head on...
Alright... Lets think this through.
We need to pull a parson, with flyers smashing any siege then disengaging. Set up traps in the swamps, maybe turn up cwoc hunting a notch, and start hitting them with such beasts. Learn our dance-fighting, preferably now. Upgrade our city to Level 3 asap.

Secure the neutral city.


TITANS MANDATE:
Can we get an update on income/upkeep/surplus?

>>18104184
naw, people kept on saying "DONT SPAWN SLASHERS!!! THEY AREN'T ENDGAME UNITS!"

>>18104171
Have Whisper get together enough units, as she chooses, to take on the neutral city and secure it. We need that extra smucker count.

>>18104192

I've got a big one upcoming at the end of this session, but you're still running a surplus. It will take something like 20,000 Schmuckers to get to level 3 though.

>>18104192
NONONO.
We will never take 3000 units head on. They're going to come to us, through our swamp that most of them can't go through. We are alright. Guerrilla warfare until the get to the city, then defenses added to our fight.

>>18104201
no. We have enough for the farms and mine a long time ago.

OP, can we get more complete info from Argent Smythe on how the cities were taken and what enemy tactics are in the field when we get back? That would help us plan.

>>18104205
nope not her. Not now. Franks (us) needs to be there.

>>18104205
not this turn. OP we should be ready for the next turn no? 40 slashers and a message to Shang that the city needs to be beautiful in 2 turns.

>>18104225
>>18104205
I thing it would be better to let whisper take care of it (but make her bring the date-mancer to stack the odds)

>>18104252
It shouldn't be done through a bwisp. What if they refuse and capture them? Frank has to be there, just the same as talking to the heir.

>>18104224

You can get a more complete and detailed report, yes: Smythe takes notes.

You know for certain though that:
-Most of the enemy is mounted
-The enemy is using casters, but cannot spawn them
-The enemy isn't carrying siege around, but makes runs at cities with units made by casters and disposable infantry popped nearby, as well as any siege they can assemble.

>>18104239

As you will then.

You end turn, and the lot of you sit around in mid-air on your mounts, uncertain of what to make of one another. A few of the more playful Skirmishers break ranks and fiddle with the other camp. Speaking of fiddling, one of the Daemons does play a jaunty tune for a bit, and the refugees seem to appreciate the music.

Dawn comes. The refugees ally up with you and stack up. Your move.

Once we get more Wightfoots, set them up in swamp hexes right by the road as well. If we have large forces to engage there, they can slip in during the battle and kill the leadership

I'd also suggest placing Cwocodile/highlander stacks in some hexes around the swamp to hit anything that wanders in hard, to make them think our base is in a different direction.

>>18104279
sounds good. Add some units to the highlander/cwocs though, maybe woof-hounds.

OP bring her back home. End turn unless we get a message. What units does she have?

>>18104218
YOu..... I....
Its not about sustainability.
ITS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH THINGS ON A TIMELINE! THE MORE SHMUCKERS WE BRING IN, THE FASTER WE BRING IT IN, THE BETTER CHANCE WE HAVE OF SURVIVING!

I MAD!

Stop trolling with your idiotic replies, and start trying to PARSON this game!

>>18104299
the farms are maxed... The mine is maxed as of now? What are you so mad about?

>>18104310
The fact that we are tying to fight a force of 3000+ with less than 100 units.

That's a fucking huge problem to be mad about.

>>18104299
We can't upgrade to more farms until next time we level the city. He's right, the farm is being totally farmed. The mine can be upgraded later.

>>18104310
we can have another city, which can mount another 5 farms, and we have the potential of getting more shmuckers based on mines around that city.

I am mad because that one anon is the voice that says no, we dont need non-upkeep units to use in a meatgrinder.
I am also mad because as far as I can tell, anon doesn't want us to be increasing our chances of surviving this conflict.

>>18104316
How does the farms have anything to do with that? We have a big farm in the city and 5 normal farms outside. They are being farmed successfully. What is he wanting? More units? Me too. We can't use any more to farm though. They're maxed out. That means they can't produce anymore.

Oh, and it is turn 11, your Warlord popped in your absence.

3d20

rolled 5, 14, 8 = 27

>>18104331
then stay mad. There's nothing to be done. The farms we have are maxxed and we're heading to the frozen city with Frank currently.

dice

rolled 10, 18, 17 = 45

>>18104342
Rolling.

Titans, is there a way to make these anons understand how much more we get from more cities?

>>18104347
Im mad at the retarded anon, not the farms or anything like that.


I am no longer mad though. Frustrated yes, but not mad.

rolled 12, 10, 13 = 35

>>18104347
Too bad for you, you're outvoted.

>>18104342
dice?

>>18104371
outvoted what? That the farms aren't maxed? That we need the city? Frank's headed there. We have the slashers.

>>18104347

Huh. We have a weird funk going. And no, it's not another Caster. You can see her through a Bwisp in the war room where she pops. You get a red-eyed, blonde Warlord who starts with a vicious looking zweihander.

Alice
Level 1
Warlord, Swamp Capable, Human Infantry
Upkeep: 50
Move: 12
Hits: 7
Combat: 16
Defense: 5
Leadership Bonus: +5

>>18104411
not nobility then?
Have Flowers check her out. And put another one on to boil.

>>18104411

I wonder why Alice...

Ah well. Queue up some more slashers and do nothing but travel. Write Alice a hello note dictated to her though.

>>18104411
Oh goody, a figher!

Now we don't have to do the heavy lifting ourselves.

>>18104420

Another warlord?

Halston signals that her vibe is all kinds of harsh, but mojo she has.

>>18104426

You do dictate a hello note. As you do that Smythe wants you to look at the board again. The Coalition is down to one remaining side, the one the Doomies are raiding.

>>18104411
What is whispers bonus?

>>18104411
>Alice

We need to get that girl a crow!

>>18104440
yes another warlord. We only have 2. I would like 4.

>>18104442

+5

>>18104455

If it's the consensus another one gets queued up.

>>18104383
Right now, Frank is headed to our capital.

>>18104411
Get her a waffle, a stack pikers, a stack of slashers and some archers and set her out hunting for Cwocs.
Get Smythe to scry up the forces of the abandoned city.
Get Liam to scan the swamp for viable mounts.

>>18104411
A Fighter, and a pretty nice one at that. She gets a Cwoc mount, Highlander stacks in her colum/hex whatever, and plenty of pikers to take advantage of that sexy leadership.
Oh, and Equip her with armor if that gives her any bonus.

Standard introduction fair for her, talk to her, see what her opinion is, and so on.

>>18104468
Rodrom is on the way to the frozen city.

Yes to another warlord. We need people to lead. We have 1 and Frank. Whisper is an archer, nice to have but not a leader.

>>18104464

Yeah, another is good.Send an order home to get some rooms ready for the refugees.

Let the refugees know about that capital site that fell, and that they made the khan pay for it.

and then end turn no?

>>18104487
>>18104481
>>18104478
>>18104468

You send out your orders.

>>18104491

If you have nothing else to queue up.

>>18104464
Que it.
Tell her that you want her thoughts on any improvements to the side, and that upon your arrival you will discuss such things in person. Also welcome her.

Then tell her to gear up for Cwoc hunting.

Honestly I'm just proud we haven't made any of these female NPCs our waifu yet. We can technically order units under us to do literally anything.

>>18104499

Silence is consent I'll assume.

You close in on your capital, then end turn another move away.

The Hobs' turn 12 comes, and Smythe immediately pings you with an update: the coalition is done. The Hobgobwins are sending scouting stacks out in force hunting for refugees and new targets.

>>18104499
warlord.

>>18104478

Yeah she's a little above with what Ansom must have been when he was first popped. She'll be a very good fighter indeed

(She'll need to be, given how freakishly strong a combatant her King is)

>>18104544
make sure we have no bwisps or other units visible.

>>18104544
Well crap We need to mask ourselves until we can pop our army then.

How close are we too the keep? Anything new with our guest?

>>18104561

Quite hidden.

Anything to do before you arrive in company?

>>18104572

You get home this turn. Your guests are polite and well behaved.

>>18104573
check in with Shang-Low to see if he fooled the city into prettiness.

I'm sleepy and lost control of my life OP

>>18104584

I think she's going to know a level two city when she sees one. We don't have a big army, and nothing we can do measures up to what she's probably used to. Let's just be honest with her.

>>18104573
Inform our guest of what happened to the Coalition.
Also, have our new warlord start studying up on dance-fighting.

I think I'll call it a night before we arrive in our home city, I'd like to be fresh for this.

Anything rules wise you want to ask, I recommend asking now since we aren't doing anything and it's easier to ask now than in the midst of the confusion of active war and ongoing actions.

Hobs are using flying scouts. We should reinforce out air units and get shootier. Much shootier.

Guys, we are running out of time.

Money is useless if you are dead, don't worry about costs.

Also we need to get to that frozen city ASAP, we can't hold off for a diplomat to pop.

>>18104573
Start camouflage the city and mine, Obviously it won't help against close inspection but it should help verses air scouts. Any thing we can do to keep from being discovered


Also start building a seriose of hidden houses so we would be about to move units about in secrecy. My idea is that the hidden houses should be a type of fortification that can give the units manning the concealment ability.
These forts will allow us to launch raids with out leading the khans fouces back to our capitol.

What do others think?

>>18104637
Frank is going right away with Shang and Flowers. Maybe even the queen. Perfect team.

>>18104622
What will be entailed with dance-fighting?

How do traps function?

What are the effects of having multiple warlords stack up, with both us and the cheif warlord (possibly casters as wel, but I am more for just having them fall back to magic kingdom if things get Hairy.)

>>18104622
Are there any little easy to miss things about combat that isn't shown on the units' statlists? Like pikers being more efficient while in close formation or working against charging forces or slashers not being completely useless.

Also, could you please give a recap of our forces and treasury?

>>18104622
How far can an archer shoot?

>>18104649
I like it.
Especially if we can conduct some kind of trench warfare type, with archers and the like making a no-go zone for the hobbs.

What are our stats again?

>>18104660

A roll based on how well your Warlord dances and how well your troops can dance. It then provides a bonus based on what you rolled and those parameters.

Traps function however you build them to function, they are pretty varied.

Stacking warlords is mostly pointless: you get the bonus of whoever is leading the stack and nothing else. Having a chief warlord in the hex but not in the stack another warlord is leading means the stack gets a bonus from the leader and 50% of the chief's bonus from the chief being in the hex.

>>18104668
Trench warfare would be more useful if we were fighting a more even war, as it is our best bet is to fouce of guerilla and asymmetric war, attacking supply lines and such. Also it would be wonderful if we could get some solid allies to crush the softened Khan hobs.

>>18104649
Those are good ones. TM, is it viable?

>>18104661

A ton. Combat happens in real-time within the hex, meaning that tactics apply.

Pikers are best when in close formation and when the enemy is within reach of their long polearms but cannot reach them. Slashers do well up close and personal, especially in situations where no one can really get into formation: if a group of slashers closes with a group of pikers before they can form up they will kill quite handily. Stabbers are balanced between those two. Wight-Foots are very much capable of repeated hit and run attacks without needing 56+ move in order to avoid retaliation, they hit their target, disengage, and restack for stealth somewhere vaguely hidden until their turn comes up again, with a good chance of taking out whatever they hit.

Recap coming later.

>>18104663

Depends on their gear, but against enemies in other hexes they are limited to a "volley" because otherwise they could just shoot and shoot on their own turns until nothing was standing and there wouldn't be anything you could do about it. Within their own Hex they can shoot an infinite number of times, but can be reached by the enemy in melee range.

>>18104721

Building hidden remote outposts is viable, but they would only provide bonuses against anything attacking you there. The enemy seems to lack swamp capable units, so they would mostly give you something to hide in from enemy air. Magical effects on them are unlikely though, and this doesn't really hide your city.

is there some way we can make he road impassable and if so can it be fixed afterwards and at what cost. If we cut the road we can do a lot of things to cripple an assault because swamps are normally impassable.

>>18104794

You can damage the road with Sappers or barricade it, but you are no the only one who can innovate on that level. Anything you can do, they can undo. Such measures also fail to change the underlying Hex type.

>>18104771
Being a Novice, Shang probably can't hide our city, but can he hide our livery? Make us look like barbarians, lost and forgotten in a swamp.

>>18104809

Barbarian cities normally sit idle. He could try, but that's a lot to do for a novice.

>>18104771
I was thinking of hidden bases like the Vietcong. Also I was not planing to only place them in remote place (or even just the swamp). I assumed that they could be hidden so that a unit would just pass them by.

>>18104804
Is the road straight or windy? Does it have any elevation? What happens with units standing in a hex when its type is magically changed to an impassable one?

>>18104819

I see. It would likely require sappers outside of the swamp, probably fabrication, and be generally effective at sitting there sheltering troops. It may or may not be able to be hidden well.

>>18104831

Windy. Elevation isn't noticeably steep. Sometimes they are forced out, sometimes they are forced into immobility.

>>18104857
Ah so it would need testing. I also understand it would take a lot of work to set up, but the benefits of having a hidden house (we really need to think of a better name) every average units move distance would amazing.

I purpose we start test its feasibly as soon as we get back. I also suggest "bolt hole" as a proper name for the hidden houses.

>>18104922
We're a bandit faction. Wouldn't "hideout" be a good name?

>>18104922

That kind of work would require... hundreds of Sappers plus many times that in regular labor to be completed in a timely fashion.

>>18104922
how about concealed Redoubt

dose the road go over any swamp hexes? or just around them?

>>18104976

The road is road hex. Swamp is swamp hex.

>>18104970
Yes I know the whole thing would take a lot but we should be able to start building up to it piecemeal.

>>18105023

Viable.

>>18104970
How far is it between us and the mine?

All we have to do is have a hold every 10 or so hexes between us, so that any unit traveling two and from will be in a "safe" place when it's not our turn.

And is there any way we can change the wagons into swamp-boats?

>>18105039

It's about 15 Hexes away.

The wagons currently have about +5 to move and Swamp-Capable already, so they can make a haul every turn.

>>18105028
Great. What would you need to build these bolt holes? Just sumchers and units that can dig? Also could you add more diggers to get it done in one turn?

>>18105063

You'd need stacks of Sappers, some other unit to do things like carry wood and build structures, someone with the fabricate skill to make the structure look vaguely like it blends in, and there would eventually reach a number that is too crowded.

>>18105081
Damn thats a lot of stuff, well that probably that means that it will ba a lot of awesome.

Welp, I sleep now. Night all.

>>18105148
Night, did any one archive this yet?

>>18105158
Yes, this thread is archived. The first one isn't though.

I was thinking about how Guerrula wars were fought....
Punji sticks, holes, etc etc.

Also: For the roads in, at about a quarter of the way in, we trap the roads, with about an eight of the total distance being trapped two hexes deep along the edges of the roads.

Why? They hit the trap hex, and deciede to go around, and run into more traps. They are forced to backtrack until they have to come in a certain distance, and by putting traps two or more hexes deep, we make them believe there are far more traps. Four hexes deep would be preferable, but maybe not possible within the time alloted.