rolled 99 = 99

Oh shit son, I was going to sleep tonight.
Rollan for luck.

You are working with the Transpace Guard's Requisitions division, your job is to Loot worlds of any useful items.

Looting has two jobs.
#1: Don't fuck up the canon.
#2: Grab everything you can without violating #1.

The Transpace Guard keeps a list of worlds. Sometimes, you can't get what you need by farming or manufacturing.
It's the Looters' jobs to get Staff, unique Items, interesting Technology, Blueprints, and anything that looks like it'd be tricky to make, but easy to grab.

Looters' casualty rates are second only to Storage, because they go into worlds knowing well what they do will break the Law. but as long as it does not break the Canon, then all is well.

Looters are also paid extremely well*. Well, if they're good at their jobs.
Looters have a budget with which to Rent items, troops, and heroes.
Looters then receive Dosh as a reward for turning in their loot.
Get a lot of loot, then you get a lot of Dosh, you pay the Rent, and keep the rest for yourselves.

You, the players, are a small crew of Looters.
You have a small ship, a small amount of funds, and a very small amount of trust from HQ.
But, since small ships are cheap and SOMETIMES Looters distinguish themselves, there are thousands of new looter teams every month sent out. And of the 20 or so that come back, over 4.99% of them become rich and famous.

You just completed a world, and are returning to base.

Want more info?
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Bootleg%20Metaquest

Now, I give you two options.

#1. You may select a world to visit.
Note that I unfortunately know fuck all about the world of fiction, and mostly only know western video games.
#2. You may request an assignment

CHOOSE NOW.
The Plot and Challenge is in #2, but #1 grants you great freedom!

>>17704936
#2!

#2, if you don't mind.
>THE HARDMODE TRAIN HAS NO BREAKS
>CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKING FAGGOTS

>>17704927
Okay, so what sort of problems are we looking at on this run?

>>17704936
#1: Call of Duty invariably has a less-than-stellar fanbase, but when its fans get MetaTech, oh boy. A rich, good-for-nothing 15-year-old has used an illegally obtained device of unknown origin to stage life-fire battles on his country estate using respawning mooks from the series.
OBJECTIVE: Go in, confiscate this device, and get out without being shot to pieces by Red Hands, Navy SEALs, and a short-tempered Cawadoody Kid.

>>17704958
breaking news
faggot poster cannot spell
more at 11

>>17704967
You take a reality distortion emitter and an Auror, you port in, yank it, and port out.
Grats, mission complete.

>>17704936
Canons, quests, or bad fanfics?

Suggestions:::

If quests/bad fanfics:
Puella soemthing something Veneficus Puella
Magia Rebuild
Nobody Dies

Canons:
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Full Metal Panic!
Strike Witches
Darker Than Black
Metal Gear Solid 3
Metal Gear Solid 4
Team Fortress 2

Voting for #2.

Can we trade some of our DOSH for a trip through basic training?
It might be a batter investment to not be stupid than to buy another gadget.

Also, my internet connection is acting up, at the moment i'm reading, refreshing and posting whenever i get half a minute or so of connectivity.

Somewhat offtopic:
So fireman, SUEs can make super effective tech, right? Could a SUE make a SUEper reality emitter?
There should be huge research complexes dedicated to the develpoment of reality emitters, as they are so important to the guard.

METAQUEST TODO: Scan self for reality distortions.

>>17704984
*reality distortion detector

>>17704921
Might as well put this luckiness to good use.
Going with 2.

>>17704984
Well, Mr. Smarty Pants, let's see what #2 has in store for us. That's what I get for taking a whole 40 seconds to think / type that up.

>>17704936

Can we get a preliminary description of said assignment, then decide if we're throwing ourselves under the bus or not if we accept?

I do realize we have a limited timeframe to work in before the MetaOP begins the main quest, but still.

>>17704989
I am now imagining a barely-conscious raidah in a tank, on life support, hooked up to power a reality emitter.

>>17704989
Seconding the request for basic training. Also, if we have any DOSH remaining, let's pick up some stealth-oriented troops/heroes/whatever.

OH, OP, I almost forgot.

Did we get anything for getting Flea's corpse and his(her?) soul-gem to the appropriate TG authorities?

I vote we pick a world. Oh well.

Say, one of the worlds of R-Type?

>>17705004
And yet, he'd still find a way to ruin missions by demanding dakka.

>>17704989
>SUEper reality emitter
HUSH. Don't give the real Meta OP Ideas when he reads this!
In all honesty, it'd be like having a human try to hand-build a SUE-tech Giga Buster Oberon, Last Strike of the Ancients. Sure, you could try, but it'd fizzle out due to the sheer nature-difference between the user and the intended tool. The SUEper Reality Emitter, likely a brainchild of an Editor Sue, would likely fall apart into gizmos and incomprehensible electronics when activated. Still, that doesn't mean it doesn't fall apart silently... (read: SUE-splosion of dissapointment, anger, and reality-warping SUE-force)

#2: Request assignment:

There is a research facility in New Mexico called Black Mesa.
It will be destroyed with a nuclear weapon.
Your objective is to go in, loot as many useful staff members as possible, and get out.

Additionally:
Do not kill, or through negligence cause the death, of the following people:
Dr. Freeman
Dr. Kleiner
Barney Calhoun
Adrian Sheppard
Dr. Magnusson
Dr. Vance
Alyx Vance

>>17705026
>Did we get anything for getting Flea's corpse and his(her?) soul-gem to the appropriate TG authorities?
Satisfaction at a job well done. Unfortunately, that was a Canon flea, so you weren't paid for recruiting him.

>>17704936
OP, how does Phantom Brave, Armored Core 3/Silent Line/Nexus sound?

>>17705050
Well shit, I don't play FPS games.

>>17705050

Oh great. Aliens, freaked out scientists, facilities with far too many platform jumping puzzles, and trained U.S. black-ops + marines with orders to shoot everyone NOT a military member on sight.

>>17705004
*the voice is highly distorted, with fragments of dialogue made entirely undecipherable by the artifacts and the buzzing hum of the Reality Emmiter at work*
>I̶t͘ ̡h ŕt̕s͟ ͏t͝o͝ ̧live.̨
>T͝elļ ̵ ͢hem̴ I ͝ĺ ̧v͜e͠d e͠v͏é ͜y҉ ͢mi̶n ͢te̛ òf̶ ̨ t̵.̷

Let me repeat from the codex.

HOW NOT TO PLAY THIS GAME

Players kill the Sue in one session after exploring approximately 3% of the world.
Players side with the Sue.
Players openly reveal themselves, and rally the forces of the world to exile the Sue
Players openly reveal themselves, and convince the world to ally with the Sue
Players openly reveal themselves, try to seduce/bar fight with the major characters, and ignore the Sue
Players defeat the Sue, and declare themselves the new Sues of the world.
Players get curbstomped by the Sue and die
Players are fucking morons and require constant babysitting to prevent their reveal and/or curbstomp.
Players stealthily try to raise the militarisation or tech level of the world, rather than try to combat the Sue directly.
Players fanboy/fangirl over the fictional world, and the session devolves into fanboy arguing and/or fetish shit. At this point, No players, You are the Sue.

>>17705050

Can we still pick a world to visit with a custom mission, or are we locked into #2?

>>17705050
What do we get if we decide to go with #1 instead of #2, given the suggestions in this thread?

>>17705050

HIGH Priority of things to loot:
#1: Xen Crystal
Used to spark teleportation between Xen and Earth, this item is useful for some of Requisitions' transport devices.
#2: High-ranking Scientists
Many Black Mesa Scientists died during the alien teleportation, army cleanup, or nuclear explosion. They have useful knowledge. Get them for us.
#3: Military Assassins
Highly trained military troops are valuable.
#4: Vortigaunts
Considerably more rare than a regular human scientist or soldier, these sentient electricity-and-life-wielding creatures are of use to us.
#5: Gonarch
In this Canon, the Gonarch never died. Its ability to produce Headcrabs would be useful to us.
#6: Gargantua
20 foot tall creatures impervious to bullets. They will be useful to us.

MEDIUM priority of things to loot:
#1: Bee guns
We can't make these, and they're hard to farm. Grab some for us.
#2: Regular Scientists
'Nuff said
#3: Regular army troops and security guards
More staff are always good.
#4: Any other creatures you encounter
While Vortigaunts and Gargantuas are the most useful, any new specimen could potentially have use to us.
#5: Gluon Gun
Though we are able to produce these items, it is an expensive process. It is typically cheaper to acquire them on the field.
#6: And of course, anything else that isn't nailed down.

OPTIONAL OBJECTIVE:
#1. Talk to the G-man. Find out what he's up to.

>>17705063
I have no fucking idea about those canons.
>>17705110
If you go with #1 instead of #2, you are very likely to receive page after page of "I have no idea srsly" until you find something I know more than "fuck all" about.

>>17705121
These men are your models.
They loot for glory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4om7AuID6BY

Actually, i suspect it MAY have already happened.

What if the command crew of metaquest are SUEs, and the research the scientests are doing is being accelerated by the SUE nature, allowing them to do such amazing feats as creating whole new kinds of reality emitter, not just minor improvents, but HUGE MAJOR LEAPS in their abilities?

The black ops guy even suggested our it (research as SUE contaminated) as a possibility when he warned us off our research

OH GOD PLEASE LET ME BE WRONG

>>17705121
Alright then. Let's start budgeting our DOSH.

>>17705138
"We become what we hate to preserve. Know our name and love it, for we are SUE, and we are the salvation."
...
Yep, bad ending achieved. Every living thing in the Meta quakes in our presence.
>>17705162
In a moment. I require thought.

>>17705050
Race against the clock mission while fighting off Zen wildlife, Spec Ops, and HELICOPTERS?
Alright, we need rocket launchers, lots of heavy weaponry, a way of removing whatever the Combine are using to control the Vortigaunts so we can recruit/ally/gather intel from them, and keep an eye on G-man so he doesn't fuck up our shit.
>rocress 1,000,000
That should be enough rockets, Cap.

>>17705121
You are being offered a tip for 5 DOSH!
Do you want the tip?

Guys, I'd like your feedback on my equipment suggestions for this mission, but we should get proper weapons at this rate. Since we're not rescuing anyone, we don't need the tranquilizers, right?

See >>17704912

>>17705185
Let's figure it into the budget before we commit.

>>17705186
>Since we're not rescuing anyone, we don't need the tranquilizers, right?
Please take a loot at the "Shit we want looted" list.

>>17705202
Whoops, we better balance the budget for the tip and the tranquilizers.

We can't possibly loot Gargantua or the Gonarch at this rate.

If we're gonna be rescuing people from a huge facility like that...

I've never played Half-Life, so correct me on this: Do you think we'll need the Fulton rescue system (MGS Peace Walker) to extract the personnel that need to be looted?

We're going to need a way to get the loot out, would teleportation work for that?

What if we just go in fast and quiet with a teleporter?

Possible vague plan:
1. scifi/magic sensor scan for loot
2. teleport in, grab loot, teleport out with loot imeediately
3. Repeat 2 until no more loot
4. VICTORY?

>>17705185
Take the hint! DO IT!
Also, I know fuck-all about the Half-Life canon and am too tired to look it up. Goodnight.

>>17705241
A TF2 teleporter would work, but one end of it needs to be guarded well.

>>17705186
a FROG trooper is 15 DOSH each.
The Tranq pistols are a measely 2 DOSH each, but ammo is 20 shots for 1 DOSH.

COMMON SENSE TRAINING is not available, as it is not an in game item, but a game mechanic.

>>17705238
Fulton only works outside, we would need to bring them outside first. since Black Mesa is a fuckhuge building, it might be impractical to drag them all outside, strap on da fulton, and grab em all.

>>17705254
I was thinking more star trek, asgard, magic, or for small things, nightcrawler. Asgard or startrek teleporter and some sturdy containment boxes for the living or otherwise dangerous stuff?

>>17705244
The HINT costs 5 DOSH
You have 150 DOSH remaining.
The hint says:
"A Stun bomber from X-com, equipped with TMAR (never runs out of ammo), is 7 DOSH."
"Renting an Alien Containment Unit from X-com is a mere 15 DOSH, and has no limit to the amount of things it can contain. If you want, it can even contain people."
"For 3 DOSH, you may buy a Cloak & Dagger (makes you invisible while stationary)"
"Heavy teleport support is a whopping 50 DOSH. However, it may prove necessary while on this mission."
"This would leave you with 75 DOSH remaining."

>>17705259
How much are the following items (in DOSH):?

1.mk2 tranq pistol
2.Mosin Nagant

(and on an insane side note:)
3.Yamada Maya (Infinite Stratos) + her IS

4. Reactive radar
5. Soliton radar
6. Binoculars

Thanks.

Things I think we need:
Good Transportation (like teleporting)
Capturing tools (we need to take things that are actively hostile to us, and capture them safely for requisitions)
Stealth (we don't want open fighting really, we just want to nab stuff and stow it)
Healing Magic (we aren't going to succeed at every stealth or capture roll, and we want to be able to undo damage taken, or given to captured specimens)

A D&D mage or rogue with a wand of Hold Person and a wand of Hold Monster would help us capture things, as could a FF Tactics Thief (steal heart). FFT Thieves are cheap, too, so we get multiple attempts. Won't work on monsters, possibly, and need opposite gender of the target.
What other suggestions can we come up with for capture type powers and tools?

>>17705295

Would combining TF2 teleporters + fulton be cheaper than Heavy teleport support?

>>17705295
The Stun Bomber does what you'd expect. It's a grenade launcher that fires knockout grenades.
The Cloak and dagger allows permanent invisibility under the conditions: Stationary, Dry, Not on fire. It also allows you to move slowly and remain invisible, and you can move quickly with it for a short time.
The Teleport support can transport objects up to the size and weight of a Transport aircraft or an Abrams tank, and works even underground or in an anti-magic field.
The Alien Containment unit contains aliens. They do not break free.

>1.mk2 tranq pistol
2 DOSH
>2.Mosin Nagant
0 DOSH
>an IS
Looking at 75 DOSH, I'd say.
>4. Reactive radar
1 DOSH
>5. Soliton radar
3 DOSH
>6. Binoculars
0 DOSH

>>17705331
Yes. Question is, how the FUCK are you going to shove a Gonarch through a teleporter? Things weigh 3 tons.

>Healing Magic
You may take a Ring of Regeneration for 5 DOSH.
>FFT Thief
You may take one for 15 DOSH.

Do you think a Stormtrooper (40k) would fit our needs? I know a Kasrkin might be expensive.

>>17705295
How much are FOX unit soldiers?

>>17705367
Based on risk assessment and equipment involved, we would probably just avoid getting the Gargantua and Gonarch at that rate?

0 DOSH equipment, huh? That's cool. But we need weapons for the people that are coming with us.

>>IS
Let's see. Since an IS can be compacted when not in use, we could have her on foot for most of the operation and bring out the IS if things get bad, and by "get bad" I mean, we have her put up the energy shields to tank a couple of hits while we escape.

---FROG troopers with Cloak and Dagger would be amazing.

>>17705331
For instance:
Fulton support:
Common sense suggests this is not advisable, as the U.S. Military operates in the area.
TF2 Teleporters:
The Engineer is willing to help you for 20 DOSH.
You may get one of his teleport schematics for 4 DOSH, but how would you build it?

>Do you think a Stormtrooper (40k) would fit our needs? I know a Kasrkin might be expensive.
20 DOSH for 1, with all equipment.

>>17705369
A conventional special forces trooper is 15 DOSH, same as the FROG. Why Fox, specifically, though?

>>17705407
>we would probably just avoid getting the Gargantua and Gonarch at that rate?
I cannot facepalm harder at your complete lack of willingness to try.

Here's some capturing weapons that I've thought of:

Stunsticks/stunstaves (Battletech canon) - Delivers an electrical pulse to targets it hits. Used by many police forces in the Inner Sphere to temporarily paralyze or subdue unruly citizens. Leaves no lasting harm, very hard to kill people with it.

Sonic Stunner (Battletech canon) - fires an ultra-high frequency soundwave to stun/incapacitate targets. Can cause hearing loss. Units that have sufficient sound filtering or that can't hear or that don't have ears are unaffected.

Hack Tool (Bioshock 2) - can fire darts that can remotely hack robots and devices. Remote hack darts have to be done manually (i.e. dice roll), automatic hack darts are an auto-success. Can also deploy mini-turrets with a machinegun. 9 manual-hack remote darts per clip, 6 auto-hack darts per clip, 4 mini-turrets per clip.

>>17705367

Let's see.

How much would a Tachikoma unit be?

We need to find out targets to collect them.

How much would enough sets of xray glasses (like OP mentioned last time in his preferred loadout) cost?

a minecrafter might be a useful troop, we might use it to tunnel around anti teleport stuff. (might be a waste of DOSH though)

what scifi/magic sensor systems are good?


accident recovery:

Anyone have suggestions for stasis or resurrection gear?
Maybe that borderlands resurrection station tech, rigged to snatch anyone who dies nearby?
(if we had that we'd only need to care about objects and data, not people)

How much would 2 or so nannybags cost? (one for head storage, one for collecting those heads with)

That xcom Storage thing sounds nice, as does the stun gun thing.

>>17705420
Stun rods are 1 DOSH.
Sonic stunners are 3 DOSH
a Hack tool is 4 DOSH without turrets, 8 DOSH with turrets.

>How much would a Tachikoma unit be?
I know enough about what that word means to never put one anywhere near the players.
If you want a Securitron, which is the same thing, it is 10 DOSH.

>How much would enough sets of xray glasses (like OP mentioned last time in his preferred loadout) cost?
Between 3 DOSH for a crap set to 15 DOSH for one that can stare through a meter of concrete

>>17705414

OP, how much would Battle Armor from Battletech cost?

3 or so elementals (or other appropriate battle armor) should be enough to do heavy lifting. They're also immune to 3059-era small arms fire, which probably translates into virtual immunity from infantry lacking heavy anti-tank weaponry in this era.


If Elementals are too expensive, there are also a handful of non-combat & atmospherically sealed exoskeletons that are used for moving heavy rubble and various debris for disaster recovery efforts. They're also somewhat thin-skinned, being non-combat armor. How much would these cost, OP?

>>17705445
For sensor systems, we still need to figure in our basic armaments for our team that's going in.

1 DOSH for reactive radar and 3 DOSH for soliton radar sounds like a good deal, IMHO. Both will help us get a good situational awareness.

I can Google for a map of Black Mesa, but they don't make much sense to me.

REMINDER:

LEAVE EXTRA BUDGET FOR LETHAL WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION!

G'night folks!

>>17705445
>a minecrafter might be a useful troop
One can be obtained for 35 DOSH.
>what scifi/magic sensor systems are good?
You have a Heartbeat sensor for 2 DOSH, a multi-purpose radar for 4 DOSH, and a Detect Life 120ft ring will run you about 4 DOSH too.

>Anyone have suggestions for stasis or resurrection gear?
100 DOSH. Human resources keeps a TIGHT hold on something that can resurrect an arbitrary target.
>How much would 2 or so nannybags cost?
10 DOSH.
>OP, how much would Battle Armor from Battletech cost?
75 DOSH each.
>Powered Exoskeleton
40 DOSH.

Are you seriously trying to run this as an "Overpower and shoot everything with superior firepower" mission?

>>17705491
Because, people.
I believe you are the LOOTING division.
Not the KILLING division.

In case it was not obvious, those Scientists, Soldiers, and Aliens that HQ wants?
It wants them -alive-.

>>17705475

>>Are you seriously trying to run this as an "Overpower and shoot everything with superior firepower" mission?

GUYS!

Treat this as a VIP rescue mission, except that the VIPs aren't mind-controlled to be hostile.

Going to bed now, but it looks like this mission is off to a good start with thinking through what we'll need, and what our encounters will be like!

One last item for our DOSH wish list; a portable force field / magic shield against projectiles. So when they start shooting at us, we can get behind the shield until we can teleport out of there. Probably not an essential item, just a consideration. In fact, probably won't have enough DOSH for it, after the necessary tools are req'd.

>>17705509
Your mission is Alien Abduction.

>>17705519
A simple shield is 3 DOSH.
A powerful shield is 10 DOSH, if recharging slowly.
MJOLNIR-quick recharging shields are 15 DOSH.

By the way:
Your items from the last mission do NOT carry over. You will need to buy new items.
The Auror is 50, Nightcrawler is 65, the Omni-tool was 2, in case you're wondering.

>>17705506

>we're looters not killers

Well, that much is obvious. The Battle Armors bundle heavy lifting and bruisers and soakers into one complete package. It's worth asking to see if we could realistically afford one or two.

Also, having these reference values for these things is handy.

>>17705295
I thought cloak and daggers recharge while stationary (while still being cloaked)?

>>17705543
Cloak and Dagger recharges when not in use.
It recharges SLOWLY while stationary in use.
It depletes quickly while moving in use.
It cannot fully cloak water and fire.

Hey guys, also, reference for Frog troopers.

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Haven_Trooper

>>17705491
I was thinking more "find thing, snatch thing with a teleporter, repeat" myself, using a nannybag or other "keep them alive enough for human resources to fix" gear to allow us to grab anything that we want that gets shot during the chaos.

>>17705557
How much for:
In-Universe Uniforms
Full map of the facility
Fake IDs
In-Universe Currency
Timer telling time-limit till clusterfuck (because we can only get crystal afterwards)

OP, do Terran Ghosts still retain the 25 dosh cost?

How much would a run-of-the-mill dark templar cost?

Ghosts are naturally trained infiltrators and assasins. They also have training in hacking security systems, databases, etc. In such a technology-heavy place as Black Mesa, this may come in handy. They may also have EMP rounds, or lockdown rounds to deal with mechanical opponents.

Dark templar may be worth considering because of their permanent cloaking, devastating warp-blades, and generally a lot of experience fighting futuristic human forces and mutation-prone alien abominations. They would be heavy scouts and could also agilely fight with alien forces as they use stunning weaponry to disable them.

>>17705557
1. How much is the HRV from Blacklight Retribution?

http://blacklight.wikia.com/wiki/Hyper_Reality_Visor

Picture is using the HRV to see enemies through a wall.

2. Compared to the HRV, how much DOSH is the Solid Eye system from MGS4?

>>17705617
Derp, here's a better video to show what the HRV can do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa4W9MjcZnU

>>17705576
>"find thing, snatch thing with a teleporter, repeat" myself,
That seems like a valid plan.

A primer on TMAR:
TMAR stands for "Techno-magical ammo regeneration". Typically less expensive than ammo for long missions, the cost of attaching it to a gun depends on both the weight of the projectile and the kinetic energy.
TMAR units can be overloaded - greatly increasing their rate of fire for 3 seconds - but overheating the weapon and running the risk of damaging the user.

For instance:
a TMAR Devastator fires 40x46mm grenades at a rate of 180 rounds per minute.
a TMAR Stun gun fires an 8-meter-blast-radius stun grenade at a rate of 90 rounds per minute.
You do not need to reload either.

>OP, do Terran Ghosts still retain the 25 dosh cost?
Yes. Ghosts are 25 DOSH
>How much would a run-of-the-mill dark templar cost?
DTs are 30 DOSH.
>HRV
It is equivalent to a 9 DOSH X-ray lens.
I will give you one for 8 DOSH.

Do the Frogs come with their basic gear and weapons?

I think we'll be good with:
2 Dark templars - 60
Heavy Teleport Support - 50
Alien Containment Unit - 15
2 Stun Bombers with TMAR - 14
HRV - 8
Omni Tool - 2

Binoculars
Map of Dark Mesa

>>17705709
Frogs come with their jumping and wall clinging suit, an assault rifle, and a few reloads.

>>17705004
Since my internet connection is acting up, i've gone and made a shitty mspaint illustration of this

I present to you the SUEper Reality emitter MK1, powered by a former member of the Guard, who tragically turned SUE, Thanks to the quick thinking of his shipmates, he was promptly thrown out an airlock, and now his half dead corpse powers this new prototype reality emitter.

TG R&D Division: We make the impossible possible, even if we should know better.

>>17705715
a MAP is indeed 0 DOSH.

Note: Dark Templar are permanently invisible, come with weak shields, and their cutting blades.
Their HP and Shields are low, and their movement speed is slow.
Note that Detector units can point out their location to enemies,
And, enemies that can see through invisibility can fire upon them.
Dark Templar are elite and well trained.

Your difficulty for attempting the mission with this loadout is:
HIGH

>>17705742
Lol no

>>17705715

We may still lack heavy lifting and some proximity detection equipment with that loadout. A Ghost might be useful for the hacking/cloaking and arms training.

Also, OP, how much do first aid kits cost? Or basic provisions such as rations and water/gatorade? Or handguns?

You never know when we'll encounter an injured or dehydrated scientist. Using our acquired personnel would be a last resort for defense, but having a last line of self-defense is better than nothing.

I see these categories of gear as being the most important, and here's what I've seen suggested:

>Information:
Heartbeat sensor - 2 DOSH
Multi-purpose radar - 4 DOSH
Detect Life 120ft ring - 4 DOSH
Reactive radar- 1 DOSH
Soliton radar - 3 DOSH
Binoculars - 0 DOSH
X-Ray Glasses - Between 3 DOSH for a crap set to 15 DOSH for one that can stare through a meter of concrete
HRV - 8 DOSH

>Capture:
Stun rods - 1 DOSH
Sonic stunners - 3 DOSH
mk2 tranq pistol - 2 DOSH
A Stun bomber from X-com, equipped with TMAR (never runs out of ammo), is 7 DOSH.
Alien Containment Unit from X-com is a mere 15 DOSH
FFT Thief - 15 DOSH

>Transportation:
Heavy teleport support - 50 DOSH

>Operatives
Terran Ghost - 25 DOSH
Dark Templar - 30 DOSH
Minecrafter - 35 DOSH

>Survivability:
Cloak & Dagger - 3 DOSH
Force Shields - light is 3 DOSH, powerful is 10 DOSH, powerful quick recharge is 15 DOSH
2 Nannybags - 10 DOSH
Ring of Regeneration - 5 DOSH
Resurrection gear - 100 DOSH

>>17705764
>Also, OP, how much do first aid kits cost? Or basic provisions such as rations and water/gatorade? Or handguns?
Depends on the first aid kit.
Conventional: 0 DOSH
Rations and water: 0 DOSH
Handguns: 0 DOSH
An FPS walk-over-me-to-restore-25-hp kit: 2 DOSH.

>>17705770
dang, I took a while typing this.

I think we need to avoid the mistakes of last mission; we need more than two operatives on the ground. Go in with a small group of people armed with stunning equipment (and possibly ropes, nets and other mundane restraints), and capture targets and teleport out quickly.

>>17705715
We need a way to target the teleporter
I think we should get a sci-fi sensor system or magic scrying system, so we can find the things we want


We also need a way to stay hidden.

How much would a ship cloaking device we can teleport through cost?
maybe we can make do with decloaking only for the few seconds we are using the teleporter each time

i think we should get the nannybag(s) and a cutting tool, so we can grab the heads of anyone who gets killed. Heads are fine, right?

Also, how much DOSH do we have to spend, I didn't notice it posted?

>>17705751
What's the rating if we trade a dark Templar for a ghost and a couple Tinfoil Hats from WoW?

They prevent detection and inspection.

>>17705798
150 DOSH total.

We have 150 DOSH to spend at our leisure. As can be expected, some combinations of DOSH acquisitions will make the mission easier/harder.

Also, we don't get to carry over previous troops to this mission. We are starting from scratch.

>>17705798
150.

OP has finalised his own picks, but could not get below MODERATE-LOW on the difficulty scale no matter how hard he tried.

Hint: You may recruit Heroes.
Half-Life's canon has a few of them...

>>17705805
Still HIGH.
OP was able to get a MODERATE with his picks.

>>17705820
Not from THIS particular canon, of course.
But Human Resources no doubt has some minor support characters lying around.

>>17705827
How much for a Portal Gun?

>>17705830
Or better yet, the two idiot robots with their guns from Portal 2?

>>17705830
A Portal gun is 25 DOSH.
Aperture tech cannot be reverse-engineered for some reason...
Those two retarded robots: 15 for one, 30 for the pair, but they do NOT respawn.

>>17705851
And yes, the robot costs less than the gun glued into his body.

How? The gun is canon-important. Yanking it away from one of its users incurs a cost.

150 DOSH total:
-15 Alien Containment Unit
-50 Heavy teleport Support
-14 2 Stun Bombers s/ TMAR
-8 HRV
-4 Detect Life Ring
-12 4 Cloak & Daggers
-10 Powerful Shield
-10 2 Nannybags

27 DOSH Remaining for Operatives plus mundane supplies (rope, nets, etc)
This loadout assumes the gear will do most of the work, and the operatives can be anyone who has some stealth training.
HRV and Detect Life ring to find targets of opportunity, two stun bombers to stun the target.
Then restrain with Ropes etc, teleport and drop off in Alien Containment Unit. Shield protects them from the target, or from other threats nearby. Nannybag is in case of mistakes.
Might put 2 DOSH into the walk over to heal item and leave it at the ship to heal between runs.
Assuming 4 operatives at about 6 DOSH each for this loadout.

Thoughts?

>>17705874
Looks good. Might want to add a Omnitool for hacking just in case though.

>>17705874
OP would suggest using 1 hero unit to do most of your heavy lifting, possibly with support for him, and possibly alone.

The issue here is that you're looking to survive a chain of maybe 50 battles without loss, in a place that's packed to the brim with medkits.
Heroes survive on 1-50 hp then drink medkits, where squad members die.

I think we should get:

Heavy teleport support 50
Alien contaiment unit 15
2/4 nannybags 10/20

Sensors
I have no idea what those sensors are, sorry

We go in, use the sensors a map, and our metaknowledge to find what we want,
teleport it out, and store it in the xcom infinite monster storage bin (does it keep them seperated?)

Anything we cant get a teleport lock on, we send in a ground team to pick it up, possibly using a minecrafter with a detect life ring and xray specs to avoid any foes by tunneling

>>17705874
Your rate of difficulty for beating this level is:
DEPENDS HIGHLY ON TROOPS USED.
could be EXTREMELY HIGH
could be MODERATE

Hmm, hmm.

Well then, let's cut out some stuff:
150 DOSH total:
-15 Alien Containment Unit
-50 Heavy teleport Support
-7 Stun Bombers s/ TMAR
-8 HRV
-4 Detect Life Ring
-3 Cloak & Dagger
-10 Powerful Shield
-2 Healing Floor Pad / FPS medkit spot

Leaves 50 points for a Hero unit, who is still protected by a stealth item and a nice shield.
We need a hero who is strong enough to move very heavy things and has some stealth ability.

>>17705874
-15 Alien Containment Unit
-50 Heavy teleport Support
-7 Stun Bomber s/ TMAR
-8 HRV
-4 Detect Life Ring
-3 Cloak & Dagger
-10 Powerful Shield
-10 2 Nannybags
-25+ Elite Ghost
-2 Omnitool

How about this one?

>>17705915
>>17705914

How about a Spectre? They're stronger than Ghosts and have stealth capibilities

>We need a hero who is strong enough to move very heavy things
>50 Heavy teleport Support
You appear to already have a way of moving very heavy things!

>>17705915
Your difficulty rating for this loadout is:
MODERATE-LOW

>>17705820
What about gordon freeman or adrian sheppard?
Both would have experience with black mesa, sheppard might be cheaper as gordon is in canon after the black mesa incident.

What about recruiting the native versions as our first prioroty when we arrive, and using them as free heroes?
Or are they needed in the canon?

>>17705933
Gotta let the cannon go normally. We're just looters.

>>17705923
Spectres and Ghosts are both 25 DOSH.
The Spectre has permanent cloaking, but cannot snipe, cannot EMP, and has a crappier gun by default.

>What about gordon freeman or adrian sheppard?
Gordon is 70 DOSH, and comes with his HEV suit, Gravity gun, and Crowbar.
Adrian is 40 DOSH, and comes with his Armor, and a Shotgun.

You believe that as long as a canon native does not:
A. Die, or
B. Have their personality changed, or
C. Learn about the meta,
then the reality distortions will be contained, and lower over time.

>>17705915
I'm liking this one.

I would consider leaving the nanny-bags aside, as I mainly wanted them for conserving our own troops.
With a single hero, if he bites the dust, there won't be anyone to put his / her head into a bag.

Maybe instead get a quickly regenerating shield?

If one of our captured targets dies mid-attempt, it sucks, but it isn't a game ender.

>>17705954
Me again.

Looking at OPs ghost / spectre post, I would vote for an elite Spectre over a Ghost. We don't really need sniping or killing here, just stunning and stealthing (at least as far as I know!).

>>17705954
You eliminate the Nanny-bags.

50 Heavy Tele
25 Ghost
15 Power shield
15 Containment
7 Stun bomb
3 C&D (The ghost says that he would rather have a Moebius reactor, which is the same price)

8 HRV
4 Detect life (this does not stack with the HRV, which already does this, and is not counted)
2 Omni-tool

Gives a total cost of 125.

One final thing, as I should have been in bed an hour and a half ago:

Make sure our final loadout includes as many free restraining items as we can feasibly use:
Rope, handcuffs, weighted nets... If we need to spend one or two points to get some decent ones, that may be good. Something to help restrain between stunning and getting them teleported into alien containment.

>>17705978
This gives a difficulty rating of: MODERATE.
Assuming you use the 25 for a spare ghost, you get a rating of MODERATE-LOW.

>Rope, handcuffs, weighted nets...
You have a STUN BOMBER and an ALIEN CONTAINMENT UNIT. You may take ropes and handcuffs with you if you wish, however, it has been proven that being STUNNED TO UNCONSCIOUSNESS THEN THROWN IN A SECURE HOLDING CELL is already more secure than HANDCUFFS

>>17705978
Not sure what to do with these extra points, and I've got to go.
Moebius reactor is fine, as long as it gives a boost to stealth. Just trying to push the odds in our favor more, and am not terribly concerned with the exact stealth device used.

>>17705995
Run with it trading the C&Ds for the reactor, and the second ghost for a Spectre if they're willing to work together.

>>17705995
OK, lets go for extra ghost then, that sounds good.

Also, spectres or ghosts? I do think Spectres are better for stealth based missions that don't involve assassination.

>>17706003
>>17706004
A Moebius reactor will Double the ghost's energy generation.
The ghost can already CLOAK.
He will be able to Cloak indefinitely with the reactor, but will "break even" on energy.
If he wishes to Lockdown, Snipe, or EMP, then he will need to spend time uncloaked.

>>17706004
The Spectre is willing to work with the Ghost.
The Ghost is willing to work with the Spectre.
They ask who will carry what items.

>>17705929
>>17705915
Moderate-Low is the best op could think of, so this sounds like about as good as we can do.

Lets make sure we get the useful 0 DOSH stuff too.

First aid kits, water, storage boxes for fragile loot, rope, duct tape, handguns, light armour?, lighting (flashlights, headlamps, etc), flashbangs, ammunition for our guns, assorted food for our aquisitions and team, batteries, nets, some blades for sutting peoples heads off for nannybagging, flares, c4 or other explosives for breaking through walls and doors, crowbars, maps of black mesa, good military radios, radio jammers for disrupting locals, assorted weapons (shotguns, rifles, smgs), suits of local soldier clothing, fake id for likely forces (black mesa security passes, millitary id, etc), grenades (smoke, flashbang, he, incendiary?), gas masks, etc

>>17706009
Abilities:

GHOST:
Cloaking (temporary)
Lockdown (disables mechanical for 40 seconds)
EMP (drains the energy from things in a 5 meter radius)
Snipe (An accurate, high-power shot that deals damage to biologicals)

SPECTRE:
Cloak (permanent)
Psionic Lash (Deals massive damage to 1 target, after a 3 second charge)
Ultrasonic Pulse (stuns units a 5 meter radius area for a few seconds)

>>17706018
Hold up. The C4 costs 1 DOSH. The Jammers are 1 DOSH. The grenades are also 1 DOSH for a set of 5. Also, any gun beyond a pistol costs 1 DOSH.
Everything else is free.

>>17706011
Ghost gets HRV, Omni-Tool, reactor, Teleporter
Spectre gets Stun-bomb, Shield

We'll have the Ghost act as Technical support and the Spectre stun and grab.

Does containment need to be carried with?

>>17706037
Everyone gets the teleporter. It is being provided by an orbiting spaceship.
The containment is also in the spaceship.

>>17706046
Quick Question, does the detect life work through walls like the Elder Scrolls version?

If that's the case, we can swap it out for two rings and give one to each.

>>17706033
We should make looting a local armory and any corpses a minor early task, so we can grab native explosives and weapons.
Can we confiure our teleporter to scan and teleport things conditionally:
ie an armory has noone within visual range, teleport its security camera, then the contents of the room?
or do we have to target it manually?
if we do, maybe send our heroes to an armoury first.

The spaceship reports that it is RISKY to teleport enemies before they are unconscious or co-operative, as the enemy must appear in the teleport room for a brief second before it is sent to its destination.
It reports that teleporting HALF of an enemy as a means of killing them is viable. Gruesome, but viable.

>>17706062
You must be able to have Line of Sight to something you want teleported.
It may be difficult to teleport Walls, but "Heavy Teleporter" means heavy goddamn teleporter, and is likely possible.

>>17706072
Line of sight to the ship, or to the hero?
How is a target defined? does the hero point a laserpointer like gadget at something to teleport it, and how long would it take for them to teleport a rooms worth of guns, research, or other loot, if we just grabbed everything and sorted it out on the ship?

Do the heroes have to take loot outside for beaming up, or can they just send anything from anywhere as long as they have line of sight from a hero?

do we have sensors capable of finding all the rooms etc in black mesa well enough to teleport a hero down to designate an object for teleport, then beam them back out to repeat?

TLDR: i want to send them bouncing around by teleport to snatch and grab

>>17706119
To at least one troop.
You define it by sending data from your visor or head monitor or looking device, and the Ship's transporter can target via that.
If it would fit in the teleporter, it would take approximately 5 seconds to transport a room's worth of guns, with a cooldown of 30 seconds between each teleport.
You do not have sensors capable of finding the deepest rooms.

>>17706119
If you want penetrating sensors, they are 30 DOSH.
They will be able to detect room-sized objects up to a depth of 100 meters, and man-sized objects on the surface.

I go now to play games of Tribes: Ascend
When I unlock air show, technician, and bounty hunter, then we're gonna be All Shrike, All the time.

[VGS]
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[VGS]
[VGS]

>>17706239
thought for next thread: any sort of anti-stun bomb device available? Will the shield protect from a HUEHUEHUE 1 dropping a stun bomb at our feet?

>>17706333
The shield will indeed protect that.

You fall unconscious if (Stun damage + Bullet damage taken) > Your total HP
You die if Bullet damage taken > Your total HP.
Stun damage can be healed by medkits.
It can also be healed by stimulants, though not as strongly, and stimulant abuse has side-effects, of course.

>>17706368
Woops.

I'm busily shitposting on 4chan, as usual.

Expected payout for various items of loot:

Gman info: ?

Xen Crystal: 50 for each Large, 10 for each Small
Gonarch: 25. There is only one Gonarch.
Gargantua: 15 each
High rank scientist: 10 each
Military assassin: 7.5 each
Vortigaunt: 5 each

Scientist: 2.5 each
Alien aircraft: 2.5 each
Troop/Guard: 2 each
Alien grunt: 2 each
Gluon gun: 2 each
Bee gun: 1.5 each
Tank/Helicopter: 1.5 each
Houndeye: 1 each
Alien controller: 1 each

This information may be of use to you if you wish to decide what to capture.

>>17706494
>Xen Crystal
It's Orange.
It's a Crystal.
It comes from Xen.
If you shine a specific frequency of light through it, shit makes portals

>Gonarch
It's three times as tall as a man, has 4 legs, and no head. a sack hangs from its abdomen. It can attack by kicking, launching acid, or spawning headcrabs (an alien parasite about the size of a large rat).

>Gargantua
20 feet tall and well over 2 tons, has a thick armored hide and a flamethrower on each arm. Known to be particularily stupid and will walk into fire or electricity, or attempt to walk THROUGH walls instead of pathing around them

>High rank scientist
Are you in a lab with a high clearance level?
Is there a Scientist?
That's a high rank scientist.

>Military assassin
Dresses in black, an excellent shot, jumps around, and likes to run as soon as it is spotted. Special forces training.

>Vortigaunt
Can sense Life and Electric energy, and shoot bolts of Electricity after spending 1 second charging up.
Sentient, but you cannot speak its language.
Roughly as strong as a human soldier that's been through boot camp and given a gun.

>Scientist
makes Science

>Alien aircraft
Resembles a manta ray, and is part mechanical and part organic. Can rival the speed of a jet fighter, and drop off enemy troops. Needs explosives to be damaged.

>Troop/Guard
Is there a person? Is the person holding a gun? Can the person make Science? If you answered yes to the first two, and no to the third, that's a Troop or a Guard.

>Alien Grunt
An alien, roughly the size of a man. Is about as resilient as 3 soldiers, but has a weak weapon, the Bee gun.

>Gluon Gun
Point it at thing you want to tear apart.
Tears it apart on a subatomic level.
Works only on organic targets.

>Bee Gun
Shoots homing wasps at a rate of 3 per second. The wasps do little damage

>Tank
Likes to live on battlefields. Often found near repair crews. Its favourite pasttime is launching explosive shells.

>Helicopter
Likes to live on battlefields. Often found in the sky. Its favourite pasttime is launching rockets.

>Houndeye
Runs up to you, sits still for 2 seconds charging up, then releases a close range sonic attack. About the size of a dog.

>Alien controller
Floats. Launches slow-moving fireballs that do not home. Surprisingly weak to bullets. About the size of a person.

There is also one other strong enemy that you should know about, but which was not listed as lootable:
>Tentacle
>Anywhere from 10 to 30 meters long, it is a strong muscled and armored limb with a spike on the end
>Thoroughly anchored to the ground. It can lash its tentacle, but its base is secured to the ground
>The only known case of defeating one came from burning it at over 3000 Kelvin. The Gluon gun and C4 are both ineffective vs. it

>>17706368
mmm.
Been playing xcom, and those stun bombs are 1 shot droppers... but if shield is proof, i don't have much to add

enjoying the looting tho'

maxim 1: Pillage, *then* burn. (pic is maxim 37)

>>17706705
OP's sleep cycle is odd.
if OP is not present between 18:00 to 22:00, it is because he is asleep.
However, OP is quite happy to check the thread during the times when he is awake and act on player input - it will just happen at random times, is all.

>>17707336
I'm assuming FROGs on the team would increase the mission difficulty, yes?

>>17707378
They would make it more difficult than with ghosts.

A FROG would be an even match for the Sassins in this level 1 on 1, at basic equipment.

Hey guys, I still think we'll need the soliton or reactive radar for our guys.

OP, the 7 stun bombers are just the guns themselves, right?

>>17707806
>OP, the 7 stun bombers are just the guns themselves, right?
Guns with infinite ammo, yes.

You must give something up to get the radar.
For example, you could downgrade from the fast shield regen (15) to slow shield regen (10), and get the Soliton radar, and a Map HUD.

Hey, OP

How much would it cost to requisistion a katamari pre-loaded with junk about 15m in diameter?

That thing would likely be hard to push through halls, but if we get outside, we could incapacitate and stick a LOT of military equipment/military troopers.

>>17707848
Well shit, just two guys in this operation, huh? Looks like they could use a little ground-side backup. In that case, we could give up 2-3 of the Stun Bombers for an additional team member and radar.

We could do takedowns on some enemy soldiers to acquire additional gear on-site.

>>17707937
Are you kidding me? The katamari is like, "PLEASE SHOOT ME!"

>>17707971

True, but it's nearly invulnerable, and anything stuck to it doesn't get injured by anything.

Although I guess that since we don't have nearly omnipotent children of a nearly omnipotent god-king to push it, its capabilities wouldn't be very useful here.

A Katamari will take 90 DOSH.

Requisitions warns against the use of such extreme measures on this operation, but will not stop you from taking one.

Who's gonna be team members 3 and 4?

>>17708083
Your team size is not required to be 4. I am not sure where you got this idea from.

>>17707963

Alright, so 7 stun bombers would be 49 DOSH total.

If we drop 4 of them (IF we wanted 1 for each trooper, and 1 as a spare), we should have 28 DOSH left.

>>17708096
You seem to be incredibly bad at math.
I will ignore your suggestions.

>>17707963
The costs of things involved made getting more members unfeasible.

There are a few items we absolutely need, like the containment unit and heavy teleport support.
The cost of an additional stun bomber plus stealth gear is 10 per troop, so the more troops we field with this gear, the more we need to spend on gear as well. We had 25 left with the basics and a single Ghost, and that gave us enough to at least get a second ghost in case the first bites the dust.

My original list called for a group of 4 with 2 stun bombers, and each having cloaking gear. We had enough points for each of those troops to be worth about 6 DOSH, which means bottom of the barrel troops.

I think the current list is as good as we're going to get, though if you want to work on an alternate list, that's cool. Maybe try a different set of tools or methods.

The only other method I can think of would be to have some really really good magical detection. Scrying tools, plus two or three dedicated finders, and then just rely on the heavy teleport to bring things into the ship. Have to have at least one stunner still, since it will take 30 seconds to recharge the teleporter and move them into containment. Also poses significant risk in teleporting still-conscious targets onto the ship (or else teleporting soft squishy wizards down to stun things).

>>17708096
There aren't 7 stun bombers. There is a single stun bomber worth 7 DOSH. We were listing the DOSH cost first, making for easier math in counting how much we had left to spend.

>>17708083
What's OP's take on a comparison between the ability levels of these three troop types?

Blacklight
Militaire Sans Frontieres
Frog/Haven

Guys, are we listing down all the DOSH costs in a pastebin or something?

>>17708114
It seems you want some skilled troops, with gear to increase their detection and survivability, along with enough support to hold your loot.

That seems wise.

For now, I must sleep.

50 Heavy Teleport Support
25 Ghost
25 Ghost
15 Power shield
15 Containment Unit
7 Stun bomb
3 Moebius reactor

8 HRV
2 Omni-tool

This is the list I'm voting for.

Focuses on getting a stealth based troop to targets, and protecting them with some heavy defense gear (the power shield, which recharges quickly).

I'm opting for the two ghosts now instead of spectre(s) for these reasons:
We are making short trips to find stuff and teleport back with. There should be plenty of opportunities for the ghosts to rest and recharge their energy.
Lockdown and EMP blast means that they have a good (and fast) answer to turrets or mechanical defenses in place at the base.

>>17708175
What's our plan for dealing with the enemy Black Ops and the Xen wildlife + Vortigaunts?

>>17708188
>>17708175

I'm not the poster who provided the list. But...

Black-ops troopers are practically non-psychic Terran ghosts for all intents and purposes. Their cloak could prove very problematic for us if the HRV doesn't detect heat signatures or such. What we do is highly situational according to terrain and such, and depends if their cloaking wears off if incapacitated (and if we can still teleport cloaked beings).

>>17708188
Stun Bombs / Shields / Avoidance.

We are making runs in and out, we aren't holding ground or even trying to fight.

If things look really bad in a situation, we teleport our ghosts out of there and try to reinsert somewhere else.
We don't need to kill a single thing to succeed at this mission. We DO need to capture stuff, so that's what I've focused on in planning.
I thought about getting more stealth gear or troops, but I really want to keep that power shield, as it provides a lot of protection from initial incoming fire, and regenerates quickly. It can also potentially protect us from losing a ghost due to a bad decision later on.

If, for some reason, we absolutely have to fight, the ghosts do have a decent gun on their own and some sniper capabilities. They can fire at something, run and let shield recharge, go back, fire some more, etc.

>>17708563

Pretty much. We just nab scientists, port them up, grab useful research or other stuff, port those up.

If we encounter isolated pockets of marines/assassins, we could possibly stun them into unconsciousness then port them up, but it's probably best to avoid any possible confrontations. We probably don't want to take on groups of 5+ aliens or assassins or marines unless they don't/can't notice cloaked stuff and are all packed tightly in a group.

We don't have a set amount of objectives per se, so we're just here to get as much as we can without being blown up, or without mucking up canon. For the purposes of the latter, we might want to question whether some staff/items we loot are essential to the canon characters' survival or not.

>>17708834
You're right about this mission requiring no lethal force.
As for worrying about the canon, the OP stated in >>17705050
that the facility is gonna get nuked. We fuck up, canon characters die. The only question is whether they're expected to die in the canon.

But that's not our concern.
Our concern is stealing everything that isn't nailed down, and some of the things that are.

>>17708550
Yeah, HRV is more x-ray than heat detection.

Does the Solid Eye detect heat?

>>17708834
>>17708550
>>17708175

Won't the two ghosts need a map tool? Also, can you guys list down the 0 DOSH stuff that we can get them to bring?

Couldn't you just buy infinite amounts of 0 DOSH goods?
Also bump for preservation.

>>17710268

Since we don't have a bag of holding, we'll need to be smart in selecting what 0 DOSH goods we take along. Every one of them will have to be carried by one of our two Ghosts. Too many miscellaneous goods will weigh them down and make them less able to sneak around.

After doing Bootleg OP's quest, I can appreciate now how expensive of a budget we're running in the main Editors quest.

Does anyone agree to giving the team a radar tool or something? They're almost going in blind, so...

You know, an auror might be quite useful here, seeing as it is unlikely that there will be antimagic of any kind. Of course, that's barring interference by the g-Man. But that aside, it is unlikely that any canon natives are likely to be resistant to magic.

Of course, considering that every meta-capable agency and their grandmother know about this day in the canon, we can expect...competition. Be prepared for other groups attempting the same shit.

If we can, get pictures of high-level black mesa scientists (because they may not stay in their high-clearance lab when shit goes down), as well as anyone who needs to survive the day, just to make sure that we don't nab anyone that's canonically important by mistake.

>>17710928
>.Be prepared for other groups attempting the same shit

And with greater numbers?

In before we fight competing groups made up of FFT Thieves, ninjas, FOX and Frogs, Blacklights, Aurors, etc.

Aurors are quite expensive (50 DOSH now, IIRC).

If we get one auror, we have to give up quite a bit of other stuff.

They are one of the items on my mental list of "If only we had more DOSH."
Lots and lots of things that I don't think will be feasible to take because of the tools that are absolute must-haves for this mission.

As I mentioned earlier, it might be possible to build an alternate loadout with say, an auror and a couple of other wizard types, scrying bowls and the teleporter, but even then the budget would be very tight.

>>17711030
When you think about it, our TG troops budget in the main quest is hideously expensive. I've calculated a conservative estimate of the troops + gear, and we're looking at a minimum 5500 DOSH for them, minus securitrons.

As for the mech + armored vehicle costs, I've calculated them to be all worth at least 9500 DOSH.

So our total troops + mech spending as of current, is nearly 15,000 DOSH.

Just let that sink into your head.

>>17711828
Well yeah, but for a 150 DOSH budget, 50 is a pretty penny!

Just thinking about how much shit we throw away / use recklessly in the main quest... phew.

>>17712326

It's because you have a bunch of people who weasel their way to make certain series of decisions that wind down to basically a head-on confrontation that's spoken with a lot of guns blazing and people imitating the frontal charge like the Red Army.

It's a slick move they did, really. Getting Tosh and Spike a move that isn't planned well at all ("relying on their common sense") and letting it flub so you'll be forced to use your actual ships?

What about Queen Zeal? We could have gotten in and out and just tried to run away from a fight, or we could have had tried common sense: If you couldn't shut down the mammon machine, how about disconnecting it from the pipeline?

In any case,

>>I'm too used to being a lazy Command Crew Officer stuck in my spaceship giving general plans for my troops to carry out using their own common sense
>>general plans

>>17712326
>>throw away

Now that you know, you have people complaining that we need to have everyone and everything in one place, but now you know that isn't necessarily the case after all.

I guess you know by now it's just a clever excuse for them to just try to brute force winning with sheer firepower (it's very much discouraged and punished in a way, everytime we do it.)

OP has arisen.
OP is powering up!

>>17713194

Secondhand reactor... Online.
Shitty sensors... Online.
Weapons... not found.

Local time is: 12:00 AM. Please hold "alarm" and "clock" to set time.

All systems nominal.

>>17708130
>What's OP's take on a comparison between the ability levels of these three troop types?

>Blacklight
25 DOSH. It is a skilled special forces operative, known for using high-tech gear. If you have played a custom map of Starcraft where you are given one troop and need to get from point A to point B, the Blacklight would be able to do this.
The Blacklight trooper comes with his visor, grenades, armor, rifle w/ underslung grenade launcher, and automatic shotgun.

>Militaire Sans Frontieres
Costs 25 DOSH.
The MSF also has an Analyzer, that can analyse enemy troops, a Sonic eye, that can view sound sources, and a Camo suit, which can make the user mostly invisible, in addition to 2 Main guns, 3 Rations, and 1 Sidearm.
Roughly as skilled as the Ghost and Blacklight, except at Psionics (ghost is much stronger), Tech use (Blacklight is much stronger), and Melee combat (MSF is much stronger).

>Frog/Haven
15 DOSH
It's a well-trained troop, not as strong as a Spetsnaz or SAS officer, but makes up for it by being able to jump and cling to walls.

>>17708834
>we might want to question whether some staff/items we loot are essential to the canon characters' survival or not.

The following items and staff are required for the Canon:

How the fuck did you do that tier:
the G-man must survive
Gordon Freeman must survive

You'd have to be TRYING tier:
Adrian Sheppard must survive.
Barney Calhoun must survive.
Black Mesa must be completely destroyed.
At least 1 Tau Cannon must be carried by a canon member when you leave.

Be careful tier:
Dr. Kleiner must survive.
Dr. Eli Vance must survive.
Dr. Magnusson must survive.
Alyx Vance must survive.
If you take absolutely no action, it is guaranteed that these four will survive.

>>17713500
Hints for players:

By default, Dr. Kleiner is in the holdout right before Gordon Freeman is teleported to Xen, in the high-tech teleportation labs.
He escapes by using the teleportation device about an hour after Gordon uses it.

By default, Dr. Magnusson is a scientist holed up near the old Teleport labs that require Barney Calhoun to travel to Xen.
He escapes by teleporting to the surface, and using an SUV to escape.

It is unknown how Eli and Alyx escape by default.

>>17709704
>Won't the two ghosts need a map tool?
You have a Drawn-on-felt map of Black Mesa for 0 DOSH, and a On-a-PDA map for 0 DOSH.
If you want an upgraded map - such as one that can plot routes, or one that shows on the HUD as a minimap, that will be 1 DOSH for each.

> we'll need to be smart in selecting what 0 DOSH goods we take along.
If you have heavy teleport support, you may keep a supply of 0 DOSH items in an unused building in any of the cities of the world. They may be teleported in and out as needed.
Note that you are space limited to the size of a small house. Any more and they will not fit into what you are carrying.

>You know, an auror might be quite useful here
They are 50 DOSH.
Technological items do not function correctly when equipped on Aurors.

>When you think about it, our TG troops budget in the main quest is hideously expensive.
They're also a LOT more squishy.
Your Auror took a hit from a Geodude and a flying Diamond intact, though he had a shield both times.
Nightcrawler was smacked around a bit by Peach, and had a ring explode in his hand. At that point, he was still completely fine.

Note that by sending in only a few people, your chances of losing one decrease.

>>17713544

OP, is it possible that we may find other groups showing up at Black Mesa (The Shippers, most likely, but maybe others) to do the same thing as us? After all, it's a canon, so its fairly common knowledge.

Also, can we get personnel files with pictures, primarily of the canon characters and high-level scientists? After all, it'll help if our troops know who needs to live, and who's worth grabbing.

>>17713642
>Note that by sending in only a few people, your chances of losing one decrease.

Well that makes sense. After all, it's a bit hard to go HERP DERP CHAERG when you only have 2 guys. We're inclined to be far more thoughtful about this sort of thing.

>>17713683
You may find other groups showing up. This canon is not noted as having suffered any S.U.E.s or crossovers, but it is possible that one may have shown up anyway.

And I'm just saying. It'd be IMPRESSIVE if you guessed who. It would take EXCELLENT deductive skill on your part. Nonetheless, it's quite possible for you to run the GAUNTLET without this knowledge.

>>17713737
>And I'm just saying. It'd be IMPRESSIVE if you guessed who. It would take EXCELLENT deductive skill on your part. Nonetheless, it's quite possible for you to run the GAUNTLET without this knowledge.

I think OP is trying to tell us something. Anyone have a clue?

Also: Can we get personnel information and pics? Just raid their website or whatever.

>>17713683
>Also, can we get personnel files with pictures, primarily of the canon characters and high-level scientists?
Sure!
Pictured here are G-man, Barney, Alyx, Kleiner, Eli, and a Vortigaunt.
Note that this picture was taken 10 years after the events of Black Mesa. The only ones that might look noticably different are Eli Vance (he either has 2 intact legs, or 1.5 intact legs and no prosthetic), and Alyx Vance (is a child).

>>17713787
Here are some Scientist models.
All the Scientists in-game look like one of these models. None of them particularily mean "High level scientist", as the high level ones could use any of these models.
Magnusson resembles the one, second from the left.

Adrian Sheppard resembles a USMC Soldier. You would only be able to tell him apart by the fact that he bunnyhops everywhere, has no fear of danger, and is extremely accurate.

>>17713737

Mind of Freeman Gordon Freeman?

Gordon Frohman?

Something or someone from Quake, seeing as how it was a competing FPS with half-life at the time (I think)?

>>17713785
Personnel information suggests that High-level personnel tend to be found in high-level areas.
However, when looking through personnel files:
It reveals that there are, at most, 6 unique bodies and faces in Black Mesa for almost all of the staff.
Security guards are either Barney.mdl or Otis.mdl
Scientists are listed here >>17713815

>>17713787
Right, pass it around to our troops then.

Can we find out anything about other scientists? So we know which ones to prioritise.

If anyone asks, say our team is an elite Aperture Science Stolen-idea Retrieval Unit. [/joke]

Also, does IEG men anything to anyone?

And would somebody else come into this thread already? I have to go to sleep sometime, and we must progress, damnit.

>>17713863
>Also, does IEG men anything to anyone?
Not to me.

>Can we find out anything about other scientists? So we know which ones to prioritise.
For the last frickin' time, if you want a High-level scientist, just find a scientist in a high-level area.
The high level areas are on your maps already - centered mainly around weapons research, the teleport labs A through D, and the old teleport labs.

>>17713895
Sorry, my derp.

>>17713828

>Something or someone from Quake, seeing as how it was a competing FPS with half-life at the time (I think)?

Seems likely, considering I just googled the capitalised words together and the first results point to QIII arena.

Of course, could be a massive red herring. And I'm not fully sold on the possibility of Shipper teams competing with us for resources.

>>17713966
that should be impossibility.

It's too tempting a target, for tech and for fauna.

>>17713966
>I just googled the capitalised words together and the first results point to QIII arena.
Right you are.

Since you already had 3 COMMON SENSE (recharged after each mission), you get a Red bulb.
These don't do anything different to yellow bulbs ... yet.

>>17714050
There are approximately 1,400,000 canons of Half Life 1. Variations between them are limited mostly to minor details - exactly where an enemy died, exactly what time a switch was pressed.

At any given time, it is likely that shippers are looting 1,000 of them, and the Looters are looting 500 of them.

So, you want a team consisting of:

50 Heavy teleport support
15 Containment unit rental
25 Engineering-specialist Ghost
25 Marksman-specialist Spectre
10 Regenerating shield (Spectre)
7 Stun bomber (Spectre)
8 HRV (Spectre)
1 HUD map of black Mesa (Spectre)
4 Soliton radar (Ghost)
3 Moebius reactor (Ghost)
2 Omni-tool (Ghost)
0 HUD map of black Mesa (Ghost)

Is this correct?
Your difficulty rating for this mission is: MODERATE-LOW.

>>17714228
Additionally, you have the following 0 DOSH items:
First aid kits,
Clean drinking water,
Storage boxes for fragile loot,
Rope,
Duct tape,
Two Kel-Tec PLR-16s
Some Kevlar vests,
Head lamps and Flashlights,
MREs (Rations, but with no +health effect),
Batteries,
Nets,
A Swiss Army Knife,
A Machete,
Flares,
Crowbars,
Traditional maps of black mesa,
Military radios,
USMC Camo for the Ghost and Spectre,
Fake IDs (do not open any doors).

I'll give the players an hour or so to argue over loadouts.

The loadout looks OK to me.
While I kind of wish we had the quickly regenerating shield, I think the extra information gathering equipment will help us more. If we can avoid a fight in the first place, we will need the shield less.

With good info, and good stealth we should be OK (barring natural 1s).

>>17714228
>Your difficulty rating for this mission is: MODERATE-LOW
The last time we had an "easy" mission we literally ended facing against an angry goddess of death.
I wonder what could happen now.

>>17714654
Then let us roll!
>>17714842
>The last time we had an "easy" mission we literally ended facing against an angry goddess of death

For the last half of the mission you encountered literally 0 enemies and avoided all the patrols.
That's what you would have had to fight for the whole mission had you had a little forethought =)

>>17714654
Would you like to give a name to your Ghost and Spectre?

>>17714887
Alice and Bob.

rolled 30, 48 = 78

You check your gear one last time...

"Orbital support in place. World looks clear. Containment field at 80%."
"Ghost reportin'."
Your ghost screws with the Omni-tool for a bit, seeing what use he can get out of it...
"I have awakaned"
Your Spectre tries out his shield and stun bomber. He fires a few shots to get used to the stun bomber's ballistics...

Your Soliton radar picks up many people in the vicinity, and gives you a rough map of the local area.
The HRV allows you to see hot enemy objects through walls. People, Guns, Generators. That type of thing. Should prove quite handy.

>>17714865
We can thank our lack of common sense that time.
Guess it can be much easier this time, what with now accustomed to having to actually think and no mind control shenanigans in sight.

rolled 98 = 98

>>17714941
The ghost reports that he can use the Omni-tool as it is, but he was unable to integrate it with his Psi powers.
The Spectre reports that he can use the Stun bomber easily.

Naming Spectre "Alice" and Ghost "Bob".

You make the jump to the Half-Life Canon.

...

---
USEFUL INFO
---
This particular Half-Life canon seems to be a haven for speedrunners. Beware of jumping characters moving at 200 kilometers per hour.

>>17714972
>You make the jump to the Half-Life Canon.
>rolled 98 = 98

"Transsssssssspacccce Lootersssss"...
Your conscious shifts from the helm of the Transit craft, and appears to be floating in a void, where a pale man in a business suit stands before you.

>>17714972
Can we safely interfere in a way that slows down canon events? (Slowing down the trams to delay the start of the resonance cascade, Tampering with doors to slow them down, and other anti speedrunning tactics?)

>>17715025
You may certainly attempt doing so.
However, the Resonance Cascade has started
>98
... EXACTLY as you arrive.

>>17714997
There's our first potential canon ally!
Let's see if we can get him to help us (justify it to him as Ensuring the safety of his assets)
(Basically, we ask him to help us, and if he does, we just bugger off with our loot and people who would normally die)

Also, START RECORDING EVERYTHING, every word this guy says is extra dosh for us

What do you guys think of this plan?

>>17714997
well, that was fast. and convenient.

Let's be diplomatic.

>>17715057
I agree!

>>17714997
"Hello. Fine day for a stroll in secret research facilities, wouldn't you say?"

>>17715057
The G-man inhales deeply.
Your ... 'Associates' told me you would be coming here. But I did not exsssspect you here this quickly.

I have a small ... Business ... proposition to make of you.
Find. This. Man.
Amputate. His. Left. Leg.
Capture him, and his daughter.
Now, I know what you're thinking. That would be ... interfering.
Well. When I plucked those two from Black Mesa, I had to call in ... some favorssss...
And make a businessss proposition, to men Just. Like. You.
Do not worry about moving them anywhere. Containment will be fine.
My .... friends ... know how to handle their ... Human Resssourcesss.

>>17715114
I assssure you, the effort will be worth your ... time.

If you refuse, then, well.
I'm sure I have other ... invessstments available.

A voice rings in your head. A man with a deep voice is repeating words like "Excellent", "Unstoppable", "Godlike", and "Multikill".

... We'll talk later, once your task is complete, one way or another.

>>17715168
In the meantime...
This is where I get off. So, wake up, Transpace looters.
Wake up and ... smell the richessss...

Over New Mexico, an immense portal storm has just started.
Gentlemen, Game on.

>>17715114
>>17715168
Amputate his leg? We should have brought some more medical equipment. That or do it the most painful way.
Anyway, I'm for accepting his offer. Did someone record this conversation?

>>17715114
Acting as the Gmans agents in exchange for his help looting? That sounds like our lucky day!

I vote we help him, in canon eli loses his leg, both survive, ensuring this might win us points back home for "preserving the canon", and we gain about the best ally we could hope for here.
We should also ask him if he can be clear and try to not be vague in telling us what he wants us to do, with the justification "We are less likely to mess things up for you if you help us, and tell us exactly what you want us to do for you."

I'm hoping we can just loan him our teleporter for his extractions, and have our agents (while disguised) do things he'd otherwise have to do himself, like that amputation.

Basically, an honest trade of services.

GOOD IDEA or BAD IDEA?

>>17715194

Your craft's reality distortion meter reads a solid "25", on a scale of 1 to 10,000.
20 of that is from your own forces.
You are in orbit over Black Mesa in a Skyranger.
You have Alice the Spectre, Bob the Ghost, a bunch of gear, and teleport/containment support.

Well, both survive canonically, so as long we don't kill them, we are potentially in the clear. Eli loses his leg anyways, so if we happen to do it instead of some accident, we still aren't harming canon with that.

Only if we have to turn them over to G-man or something does it risk harming canon, as they may or may not be returned.

I say we make it a point to try and capture them into containment, as if G-man contacts us later, we can get even more info, even if we end up disagreeing with him at that time.

I also vote for capturing them like we capture any other target; stun bombs and teleport into containment.

>>17715206
Of course you did. Ghosts are always recording, in case something ... happens to them while on mission.
...
Strange. This recording has YOUR voices, and the Unreal Announcer's voices, but none of the G-man's.

>We should also ask him if he can be clear and try to not be vague in telling us what he wants us to do
LOOT ELI AND ALYX

>Well, both survive canonically,
Isn't it strange.
Canonically, they both got out of Black Mesa fine, but there's never any records of them doing so.
It's as if they were just... whisked away, picked up out of thin air.

>>17715206
We can stun, snatch, and then bind him, then take him to any hospital in the world and use our fake ids and other trickery to give him access to the worlds best surgeons and medical supplies.

We do after all, have TELEPORTERS, a SPACE SHIP, and HEROES with FAKE IDs

We only need to care about looting, the canon has all the medics we could ask for.

In fact, maybe we can beam dying personell out to a hospital to save their lives, then grab them once they recover?

>>17715257
The fuck? Did we all hear his conversation in our heads?

For uh, amputation: machete, plus something to cauterize the wound. We knock him out with stun bombs first though.

Why do I get the feeling that it's going to be a race between us and the Quake guy to cripple Eli Vance?

>My .... friends ... know how to handle their ... Human Resssourcesss.

Well, that's ominous, considering Requisitions' definition of Human Resources.

>>17715272
>In fact, maybe we can beam dying personell out to a hospital to save their lives, then grab them once they recover?

You have SUPERCHARGED another common sense bulb with your excellent thinking outside the box!

>>17715257
In that case...
we immediately WRITE DOWN everything we can remember, including tone of voice, impressions, etc.

Speculations: G-man is actively doing favors for other meta-capable organizations. He mentioned groups similar to ours, but that does not mean another looter team affiliated with TG.

It seems my hint was too subtle.

How did Eli survive Black Mesa?
NO TRANSPACE LOOTERS
YOU ARE THE CANON
And then Transpace Looters was a zombie*.

*note: You are not actually required to be a zombie.

>we immediately WRITE DOWN everything we can remember, including tone of voice, impressions, etc.
You write down your experiences in a "Super Transpace Guard Archive", or suptg archive for short.

>>17715306
Actually, sending two TG looting teams to compete against each other wouldn't be too far-fetched of him.
Or other TG teams, not exactly just looting teams.

As for the speedrunners... wait a second, what's the feasibility of the quake guy speedrunning through the place on rocket jumps?
Were there ways to sequence break in HL1?

... late to party, and I had a thought. If I was kidnapping people, who would I want to pull this off? How much would Arkham City Batman cost in DOSH?

something semi-related, we can teleport tourniquet/amputation materials, amirite? its in house just fine, i'd think

>>17715257
Everyone who heard it should write down what they heard the gman say, without discussing him until after they finish recording their version of events. (Better evidence of gmans words meands more reward when we get back to base)

Lets start operation LOOT EVERYTHING

My suggestion for early targets:
any scientists we can find, even if they are near death.
keep a watch from our ship for any scientists thet make it to the surface, we want to snatch them via teleporter as soon as we see them

Scientists die easily, so we should get those quickly before they become headcrab food

>>17715303
oh boy, let's shoot for all 3! I bet something cool will happen!

>>17715347
>Were there ways to sequence break in HL1?
It was a 10 hour game.
It has been completed in 30 minutes.
In fact, it's possible to sequence break one of the bosses, and avoid killing her.
I believe she's your 2nd highest "Loot" item.

>something semi-related, we can teleport tourniquet/amputation materials, amirite? its in house just fine, i'd think
You have a Medkit, and an Omni-tool. Medkits have gauze, and Omni-tools can amputate.

Xen Crystal: 50 for each Large, 10 for each Small
Gonarch: 25. There is only one Gonarch.
Gargantua: 15 each
High rank scientist: 10 each
Military assassin: 7.5 each
Vortigaunt: 5 each

Scientist: 2.5 each
Alien aircraft: 2.5 each
Troop/Guard: 2 each
Alien grunt: 2 each
Gluon gun: 2 each
Bee gun: 1.5 each
Tank/Helicopter: 1.5 each
Houndeye: 1 each
Alien controller: 1 each

Yes. The sequence-broken boss is in there.

You are currently in high-altitude flight over Black Mesa.
Portals have started.
The US Military will be here in 10 minutes. (normally 2 hours, but ... speedrunners, ya know?)
A summary of WHERE to find your high priority targets will follow.

>>17715367
We have some first aid to keep them alive somewhat more, but we should also go find an infirmary or similar first, for additional medical supplies. Maybe also find someone with proper medical training.

>>17715352
yeah but... teleporting him into an emergency room waiting area, letting TRAINED medical professionals suture the leg wound, then removing him via more teleportation works better.
We just make sure to find a not-so-busy place post mission to do the amputation bit.

I would like to have the spectre be near even during the operation though, in case another group tries to nab him for G-Man, which is why I suggest not bothering with the amputation until we're through with the Black Mesa facility.

>>17715383
>and avoid killing her.
That would be Gonarch, then. Probably the speedrunner is going to skip her, leaving us more time to loot her.

>>17715352
I'd assume batman is above our paygrade, he probably would cost more than our entire expidition, including gadgets, personell, and our ship

Where would eli and alyx be right now? if we get them early, gman might do something GENEROUS for us, like giving us the teleport coordianates for what we want to loot, or at least recalling his Unreal tournament minion(s), so we can do our job without rockets flying all over the place

>>17715383
Phew, not much time.
OK, let's see if we can slow down their entry.

Plan for perusal: Teleport down to the front entrance, just inside and use the omni-tool to hack the door shut, then have the ghost EMP blast the lock to keep it shut. That won't stop them for too long, but it should give us a little more time to collect loot without being shot at by two different groups.

>>17715383
Where to find items:
Xen Crystal:
Small one is located in the Mass Spectrometer chamber.
Gordon abandoned it there in his rush to get out the door, and nobody else is willing to retrieve it when they are running for their lives.

Large ones are located at Half Life's final boss, on Xen. Prior to the boss's death, they are attached to the wall, and he guards them. After the boss's death, they have been shattered into 3 smaller pieces each, and on the floor.

Gonarch is on Xen. Your HUD map shows which portal leads to her, if you can reach it. The teleportation labs are deep undergrond.

Gargantua roam both Black Mesa and Xen. Your HRV will give you a bonus to finding them, and your Skyranger will keep an eye out for any on the surface.
There is one Canon one that is incredibly easy to reach, and multiple Canon ones that are not.

High Rank Scientists are in the Teleportation Labs, Weapons labs, and Old Teleportation Labs.
Military Assassins roam Black Mesa randomly. There is a large cache of them in one specific location that you could reach, with a bit of effort. Otherwise they are random encounters.
Vortigaunts roam Black Mesa and Xen randomly.

Scientists are in Black Mesa. They are likely to be found in dark areas, cupboards, crawlspaces, and other places out of the way.
Troops are in Black Mesa. They're everywhere.

Alien Aircraft do not appear for 20 minutes, but are in the air above Black Mesa when they do.
Alien Grunts are in Black Mesa. They do not show up for 20 minutes. They are placed randomly.
The Gluon Guns are located either in the Weapon lab, or on the corpses of Scientists who went to Xen.
Bee guns are found on Alien Grunts' corpses.

Tanks are found outside.
Helicopters are found outside.
Houndeyes are found inside, typically in corridors or sewers. There is a containment field containing them, that you could access easily.
Alien controllers are typically found only on Xen or in the teleportation labs.

>>17715425
Batman from Arkham City comes with two options:
70 Credits for one that refuses to use lethal methods
90 Credits for one that is willing to use lethal methods

In both cases, he comes with a Soul gem, that you are required to loot when he dies. If you lose that Soul gem, you are fired.

right, so we may be competing with Unreal Tournament or Quake III arena personnel, on top of canon hostiles.

OK, we can take advantage of the fact the marines haven't arrived yet by passing ourselves off as advanced recon for the main rescue force. Going by canon, that will have scientists and security greeting us with open arms till the jarheads show up and start shooting.

>>17715432
this! while non-door-breaker keeps eye out with small launcher for targets of opportunity. we have infinite ammo for that cuz teleport, right? any bonus for taking out other team? i'd rather not TRY for it, but if opportunity knocks, invite her in and hope she has credit cards in her purse.

>>17715425
yeah, but i guess what i really wanted to know is if certain deployments get extra chance of success, ie, surviving rolling 1s and success anyway on low rolls

>>17715490
OOC:
>implying you can actually kill batman.
go to /co/ and tell them that, seriously.

>>17715425
>Where would eli and alyx be right now?
Eli is in Anomalous Materials.
Gordon should be bunnyhopping his way past Eli right about ... now.
Alyx is in the Anomalous Materials' employee lounge.

BONUS OBJECTIVE:
Dr. Magnusson has a microwave casserole. In his rush, Gordon Freeman did not destroy it.
If you wish to win a 5 DOSH bet from a co-worker, you must find this microwave casserole and destroy it.

>Plan for perusal: Teleport down to the front entrance
Black Mesa does not have a "Front entrance". It is a massive underground and surface complex with many surface access points.

Presumably it has a visitor's office, if you wish to go there first.

>>17715490
Out of interest, how much would PROXY from TFU cost, and how much would Zero cost?

>>17715530
Either way, lets avoid the lengthy and slow trolley rides. Can we teleport NEAR the Anomalous Material's employee lounge? We don't want to scare anyone with a sudden entrance.
Also, check the lounge for microwaves.

>>17715530
looking for a combination of expedient (gofaster!) and logical to make >>17715499 work
do spectre and ghost look like they fit the part of > advanced recon for the main rescue force ?

>>17715505
The small launcher has TMAR.
It has a rating of 100,000 shots before TMAR breaks down, assuming you do not overcharge it.

>>17715543
PROXY: 45 DOSH
ZERO: 75 DOSH

>>17715562
You may teleport to any access point on the surface, and use an elevator.
However, Anomalous Materials is restricted. You will likely need a way to bust through doors.

The closest elevator leads to the MAIN LOUNGE.
From there, you must travel through a WASTE PIPE, and some CORRIDORS, and then you will be at Anomalous Materials.

Do you wish to do this?

>>17715530
if we can intercept gordon, we might be able to slow down canon events to give us more looting time!

can we stun him, and keep him tied up for a few hours, then let him back out to do his thing?

If we can, i say we send at least part of our ground team to go do it, and grab ely and alyx.

>>17715530
I'm looking for the largest or most accessible entrance to shut it down. Just trying to slow down mass military troops entering. I don't want to spend too much time on this, so one or maybe two entrances for this project, then move onto looting.

Actually, how many roads are there leading in, and can our teleporter take out a chunk of road? If there's a central ramp,a nd we take out a big chunk of it, they'll be slowed down a lot.

rolled 17 = 17

>>17715593
On the surface, there are:
1 Gargantua
A decent amount of Vortigaunts

Your Transit Skyranger will continue patrolling. It will submit its X-com codes to the U.S. Government to see if they give a shit...

Wait a minute. Were those two scientist girls from Half-life: Decay considered canonical? Didn't they vanish after Decay? If we look hard enough we might be able to scoop them up.

>>17715593
we don't need to bust through walls, we have a HEAVY DUTY TELEPORTER.

can we set our teleporter to only teleport a small part of the wall for faster wall breaching? (take only a window or door sized part of it, as we don't need more)
Any doors can be dealt with like that too.

>>17715604
dislike splitting the team, but are both easily snagged and in same(ish)>>17715608
location? iirc, we can look, lock and teleport targets. if they're not dangerous at all, easy grab beats not splitting up the band

>>17715608
slowing down interference good if time cost isn't too bad

>>17715608
There is one main road leading in.
Your teleporter is willing to teleport this chunk of road, but warns that the road will not be intact after this teleport.

The main lifts are ... Access shafts A, through Z, through AD. There are hundreds of side accesses, and easily thousands of vents and pipes.

>can we stun him, and keep him tied up for a few hours, then let him back out to do his thing?
You can attempt.

>>17715616
The Skyra... U.S. Transport Chinook's codes work perfectly.

>>17715635
Well would you look at that. It seems they literally DISAPPEARED after the events of their video game were over.

>>17715650
>Well would you look at that. It seems they literally DISAPPEARED after the events of their video game were over.
Gina Cross' body is seen the bottom of a pool in Xen in Opposing Force and Colette Green's body is seen towards the end of Blue Shift face down surrounded by blood on a floating island in the distance.

Oh. THAT's why.
Still, they aren't dead yet. And who'll miss two corpses among thousands?

>>17715650
we don't need roads where we're going. i'm fine with this. agreement?
decent amount... half dozen?

So, you wish to:
Seal 2 Access Lifts to slow down the Soldiers' assault on Anomalous materials,
then go into Anomalous materials to see if you can slow down Gordon, and loot Eli/Alyx.

Is this correct?

>>17715650
Mr. Teleporter Operator, that is in fact the plan.
I'm SURE the military will make a way up in short order, but it buys us some time inside.

The only flaw I can see is that if the military needs to show up faster due to the speedrunning, we'll have to slow down gordon as well to keep things matched.
We may want to do that anyways though, to buy ourselves more looting time.

>>17715687
Sounds solid to me.

>>17715635
I think they're status as cannon is even shakier than Sheppard

>>17715687
keeping eye out for targets of opportunity including casserole on the way. =D

>>17715709
You teleport some pieces of Road into access lifts.
>If your teleport is not busy, it will attempt to block ways into or out of the base by teleporting random junk in, or teleporting generators and machinery out.

The Ghost an the Spectre are preparing to enter the lift to the MAIN LOUNGE.
...
It appears to be broken.
Your options are:
A. Rappell
B. Try to fix it
C. Jump
D. Opportunity for creativity!

Also, the Gargantua on the surface.
Can you think of a way to disable it, without using the Ghost or Specter, and yet leave it alive?
Doing so will get you bonus points!

>>17715744
get them to use their teledesignator to remove any obstacles, then provide the new coordiates to teleport them to, (beam them out, then beam them into the location they set, allowing them go "jump" using the teleporter

>>17715744
teleport (if necessary, a rain of) stun bombs!

>>17715762
Where are you planning to have them teleport to?

>>17715744
Teleport nets on top of it until it is ensnared, maybe teleport a large voulume of water from the nearby dam on top of it to stun it. then more nets, some flashbangs, and teleport it into containment

rolled 83 = 83

>>17715790
"Yo, Scotty, you ready for some fun?"
The Spectre says, with a grin on her face.
"Roger, Alice. What's the teleport target?"
The Spectre fires Stun bombs skyward.
"Catch."

>>17715814
Your Teleport support captures the stun bombs mid flight, and...
...
...Successfully teleports them onto the Gargantua!
>>17715804
Your teleport support drops nets and water onto the Gargantua!

You receive loot: 1 Gargantua.
Creative use of abilities has granted you a 3rd Red bulb.
...
What's this? COMMON SENSE IS EVOLVING?
You now have a maximum of 4 bulbs!

>>17715791
first, teleport out any obstables, then have them teleport to the floor they are trying to reach, using the coordinates they provide, like how we could beam out a scientist on another floor.

from floor 20 to floor 3, using a teleporter?
Or is rappeling, using a teleporter to remove the lift car and dump it in the millitarys way faster?

>>17715814
yessss!

can orbiting craft please note effectiveness of stun bombs - 1 and done on gargantua or multiple?

>>17715744
>The Ghost an the Spectre are preparing to enter the lift to the MAIN LOUNGE.
>...
>It appears to be broken.
>Your options are:
>A. Rappell
>B. Try to fix it
>C. Jump
>D. Opportunity for creativity!

>>17715857
You teleport the lift out of the way.
However, the lift shaft is too BIG to get a solid view straight down!

>>17715862
The lift craft reveals that Stun bombs are not safe to teleport, as they may explode in the containment field. You would need to arc the Stun bombs straight upward and catch them near the very peak of their arc, and even then, it's not very likely.
However, a teleported stun bomb is as effective as a regular stun bomb.

>>17715857
i like the remove + rappel idea, depending on if we believe the military doesn't have rappelling equipment or lootable rope/extension cords/etc around.

otherwise, hack to unsuability then teleport

>>17715874
Drop a flare down the shaft for better visibility.

>>17715852
next time gordon is on the surface, if our team is out of range, let's use this strategy again to capture him.

in fact, we could use this strategy to capture ANYTHING we see on the surface, exept maybe tanks and aircraft. Should we snatch up any millitary that we see on the surface out of line of sight from other units?
or maybe we could snatch all the soldiers over black mesa's surface? (snatching all the soldiers sounds like a bad idea, it might get the government to start throwing nukes around, rather than the canon one nuke placed by hand)

>>17715874
sooo... teleport unfire stunbombs to altitude, then drop? may not come up again, but good to know y/n

look before leap/rappel

>>17715852
BULB MECHANICS:
Common sense is a useful item for any Player Character to have. In many ways, it's what separates a /tg/ player character from any random player character.
These are implemented as a way to stop poor or dumb decisions from screwing people over when they are afk or too busy to play games.

You lose 1 Bulb when missing something obvious, or a plan with obvious flaws, would hurt you considerably.
You gain 1 Bulb when being particularily smart, wise, observant, creative, cluey, or outside the box.
Sequence break? Get a bulb.
Go off the rails? Get a bulb.
"why don't we just fill the dungeon with water"? Get a bulb.

If you would gain a bulb when your bulbs are already all full, you SUPERCHARGE 1 bulb.
When all bulbs are SUPERCHARGED, your max bulbs increases!
A SUPERCHARGED bulb acts the same as a normal bulb, other than this.

>>17715903
The Military has tons of Rapelling ropes.
As do you! You got some for 0 DOSH.

rolled 93 = 93

>>17715919
>>17715903
Flares and Rappelling ropes are used!
Let's see what comes out of the darkness at you...
>>17715938
TMAR means there is no such thing as an "unfired" weapon.
>>17715929
Teleporting Stun Bombs is risky, and requires a stun bomb to be stationary (firing it upwards works).

OK, rappel or teleport down, either way as long as it gets us to Anomalous Mats.

>>17715956
>Let's see what comes out of the darkness at you...
>93
"I can't believe they busted me down to Anomalous Materials. I was CRUCIAL in understanding the phase-invariant teleportation matrix implementation using the Lamernian method rather than the Black method. All that because of ONE haphazard game of Teleport soccer."

You have located: High Rank Scientist!
Well, not any more.

What do you do?

>>17715942
then if possible, after we're out of the way, put lift back in. any objectives at current level before we look and descend?

>>17715942
OH SHIT I JUST REMOMBERED!

Gordon is cannonically in a garbage crusher mid game, after being canonically found by 'Special ops soldiers' Let's be those 'Soldiers', using the unspecified time between those two events for MAXIMUM LOOTING

>>17715977
Teleport him out immediately, He canonically falls to his death immediately after he finishes talking.

>>17715977
An ex-high rank scientist may be not high rank anymore, but he will surely know information much more valuable than a common scientist.
Lets loot him and ask him for info about the restricted labs and other important areas. Lets not forget about asking for codes, and hope they were not changed.

>>17715977
see who HLS is talking to

>>17715979
good snag

>281 posts and 18 image replies omitted
when does auto sage start?

>>17715979
DM had not planned for this! Have a bulb!

>>17715993
Do you wish to teleport him to containment?
(Do not worry, the Gargantua cannot harm him)
If not, where to?

>>17716003
300 posts.

also i'm sad because theres no reason to kill shit in here :(

>>17716005
tp to spectre and ghost for info/code/key grab?
glad to hear beastie won't be eating our living loot

>>17716003
In 10 posts.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Bootleg%20Metaquest

>>17716005
Let's put him on the ship, he can help the command team with our planning. (What if we just put all our scientists on a room in the ship, or a safe place like a convention center, and have them use their knowledge to help with our "Rescue efforts" (if we do this, give them a copy of the maps and a radio)

>>17716005
If we can question him in containment, put him there.
I don't want a "harmless" scientist running loose anywhere near the teleporter controls.
We don't have that many people on mission, and I don't want to spare one to babysit him.

>>17716026
>also i'm sad because theres no reason to kill shit in here :(
The Transpace Guard "Let's wreck everything" division is known as the Firemen. They have a lot of fun. However, running a quest as them isn't very fun.

"You are here. What do you do?"
"NUKES!"
"You win! You go to the next world."
"You are here. What do you do?"

>>17716036
Hmm... do you really trust these random scientists?
I don't see any indication they will necessarily be on our side, or willing to work with our plans. I think it will become obvious we're just here to loot, and if they're roaming free they might cause problems.

>>17716027
>>17716036
>>17716040
You have three choices!
On the Meta-Skyranger, with the Players.
In containment
With Alice and Bob
Which is most useful?

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Bootleg%20Metaquest
You may wish to archive this quest, as I cannot archive 2 threads in a single day!

>>17716063
Tags should be:
Collective Game, Meta Quest, Meta, Quest, Bootleg Metaquest, Bootleg,
and possibly also
, Ghost, G-man, Freeman, Anarki, Barney, Spectre,
or anything else that may be relevant.

>>17716057
Tell them if they cooperate, we'll snag their families before we leave?
The scientists are coming with us anyway, and a lot of the world canonically gets fucked over HARD.
Once we put them in a "think tank", we can barricade the doors and windows, and let them know of the horrors outside.

>>17716063
working on archive...

>>17716102
.... done.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17704904/

A bit slow on it as I've never archived before, but it seems to be working fine.

>>17716086
if we can get keys/cards/info from them in containment, there. if not, Alice and Bob then containment. wait, we can tp walls around, nevermind the access priority. can question in containment? there. if not, A&B

>>17716142
Roger that.

I shall play some tribes until people decide where they want the Scientist.

>>17716086
I think I'd be happier if we defaulted to starting them in containment, and then have a white list we can add individuals to if we trust them, or get cooperation through pulling their family.

I don't think we have enough time to pull out family members for every scientist we capture... we're already up against a speed run attempt.

>>17716159
Alice and Bob it is.

The Scientist "Teleports" ... Nowhere.
Alice and Bob approach him. Alice, being a spectre, is cloaked. Bob is recharging his pack for now, and holsters his gun.

"My goodness! Rescue sure got here fast!
We were experimenting with teleportation, and I think we caused a Resonance Cascade. Creatures from the Border world came through!"

>What would you like to say, or do to the Scientist? He is unarmed. You may search him for keys, talk to him about things in the base, etc.

>>17716063
So no "dump them in a barricaded gymnasium with all the black mesa security we loot"?
If we tell them we're timetravelers or something, they might believe us, or hell, we come clean with them if we're looting them anyway, tell them the universe will break if we do more than we are

>>17716184
"A Barricaded Gymnasium" is basically the containment field.
Fucking thing can hold SECTOPODS AND ETHEREAL COMMANDERS.
I don't know how, but it does.

>>17716182
priorities - #1: Xen Crystal - we'll get to that, no talk to him about that
#2: High-ranking Scientists - now we're getting somewhere! where do they hang out? directions and access to their location(s). be succinct and polite. in that order

>>17716171
Canon has gordon disables at one point, we cound use that to potentially delay things for hours or days, maybe have the scientists call their family and tell them to go out into their back yards so we can teleport them from orbit, snagging anyone in the back yard, with emphasis on "THE UNIVERSE WILL BREAK AND WE ALL DIE IF ANYONE ELSE COMES!" whether it is true or not?

The scientists will know where their families live, and their phone numbers. with that info we can have them contact them and make pick up easier?

or just offer to try saving them after we get the loot, using some bullshit like "We need this knowledge to save future humanity" or "we can only save so much, we're trying to save the things that will help humanity most" or something

OK, idea of something to tell them:

"We're a fast response team sent in to salvage as much research material and human life as possible.
We're NOT part of the army, and the politics of the situation leave us unclear as to how they will react to us. We fall under Homeland Security."

thoughts?

>>17716203
can we communicate with those in containment?
I want to use the scientists to help us not be dumb and to find the good loot faster using their knowledge?

Basically an ANON-lite with dubious loyalty

rolled 42 = 42

>>17716253
Why do you wish to hold the families?
You can do so, but Requisitions has enough civilians.

>#1: Xen Crystal - we'll get to that, no talk to him about that
"I ... see. You're not part of the rescue team, are you. Yes, we were able to obtain some crystals from Xen, with the aid of a mysterious benefactor. I don't know where they all are, but one was being sent through to the anti-mass spectrometer just a few minutes ago."
>#2: High-ranking Scientists - now we're getting somewhere! where do they hang out? directions and access to their location(s). be succinct and polite. in that order
"Here, in Anomalous materials. Also in Weapons research, Teleportation A through D, and sometimes in the Staff rooms."

>"We're a fast response team sent in to salvage as much research material and human life as possible. We're NOT part of the army, and the politics of the situation leave us unclear as to how they will react to us. We fall under Homeland Security."
I see.
Scientist rolls WIS...

>>17716304
"Homeland Security? I thought that was still in its planning stages. I guess the Government isn't taking its sweet time after all..."
>Half life: 1998
>DHS: 2003

>>17716281
You can communicate with those in containment, but they can refuse to talk to you if they are angry.

>>17716304
Technically we do fall under our own home canon's giant security force.

So it's only like, 80% lies, and 20% truth instead of being complete bullshit.

If he guesses correctly it's off to the holding tank with him anyways. *shrugs*

>>17716267
Sounds good, i'd like to save their families for both DOSH and motivation for the scientists to cooperate, family is a powerful motivator.

They know we can teleport, maybe we can get them to tell their families to line up in their back yards at a specific time, so we have a time and place for each group of family (we save their family, human resources doesnt have to brainwash them, more DOSH for us?)

first! >Resonance Cascade has started!

>We're a fast response team sent in to salvage as much research material and human life as possible.
yes!
where are your high-level scientist, regular scientist, security, janitors, can you collect them up? hurry, beasties and nuke-wielding military about. (want some backup/approval to say this)


>We're NOT part of the army, and the politics of the situation leave us unclear as to how they will react to us. We fall under Homeland Security
not a fan

>>17716253
>>17716353

I'm taking off half a bulb for this.

>Tell scientist YOU can cause teleports
>Ask him to bring out his family
>The future of humanity
>The universe will break
>Family are not worth DOSH
>Thinking they know we can teleport
>Derpy
>Herpy
>Doo

>>17716324
"A lot of the administration of it IS in the planning stages, which is why our status with the military is questionable at the moment. We're only deploying because this is an absolute emergency."

Also maybe add at the end "Speaking of which, let's get you out of here."

I'm not willing to go the extra mile to hide the teleportation from scientists.

>>17716362
dammit. must type faster. anyway.

>>17716370
Do you wish to teleport the Scientist to Containment, or the Skyranger?

>>17716355
Well, the army will be shooting at us. Can't exactly claim to be part of their command structure once that happens.

>>17716388
I vote for Skyranger for now, if they start acting funny we stuff them in containment. Not maliciously, but we can't afford one of them trying to commandeer any of our controls during this op.

>>17716388
i vote containment. need to start moving to get priority 1 and 2 targets

>>17716403
Here again.

I'm not actually opposed to containment, so if others favor that, we might as well make that decision and move on. We can even claim it's for their own safety 'as the ship could suddenly move at any time'.

rolled 37 = 37

>>17716403
>>17716408
>>17716425
Containment it is.
Scientist rolls WIS as he is teleported...

Sorry for my dumb ideas, i'll try to be less stupid in the future.

I vote secure containment, since we can still talk to them while they're there, and they cant try taking over the ship from containment.

>>17716443
The scientist speaks.
"People with technology I've never known,
Come barging in talking about things that only the most Top level scientists know about,
Claiming to be from an experimental government agency,
And can control teleportation."

"You're working with our Mysterious Benefactor, aren't you."
"He said ... this morning. He, and the Administrator, addressed us. He told us ... to prepare for Unforseen Consequences."
"I ..."
The Scientist is deep in thought.

>>17716456
You have looted: 1 High Ranking Scientist.

OP now requests a break of 30-40 minutes, in order to prepare and eat food.
There will be a new thread after that time, as this one is Autosaging.

>>17716468
food sounds good. see you in 30ish

>>17716456
"Sit down, take a breath. You're safe up here at least."
"... If you can tell us where we might find others who work down there, we'll try to get them up here and out of there."

>>17716476
"The Administrator?
He left with our Mysterious Benefactor shortly after, left his Vice Administrator in charge."
"As for our ... Mysterious friend, I don't know."
"In fact, I'm not sure if I can call him a friend. He unleashed hell on us."

>"... If you can tell us where we might find others who work down there, we'll try to get them up here and out of there."
"Most of this facility is staffed. Scientists and Security guards. You'll find the most important ones in Teleportation Labs A-D and Rocketry."

Alice and Bob have passed the ELEVATOR.

Their route is:
BREAK ROOM
BREAK ROOM
SEWER
CORRIDORS
SEWER
CORRIDORS
ANOMALOUS MATERIALS (TOP FLOOR) <-- likely location of Alyx
ANOMALOUS MATERIALS (MIDDLE FLOOR) <-- likely location of Eli
ANOMALOUS MATERIALS (BOTTOM FLOOR)

OP is eating POTATOES

>>17716724
animated

>>17716762
Truly, Ramen is the god of foods.

IT IS TIME
I SHALL MAKE A THREAD

Sometimes, I'll take chicken flavored Ramen, add in Peanut butter, yellow curry, and Mae Ploy (pic related) and make Thai Curry Peanut noodles. Is delicious.

>>17716944
>>17716944
>>17716944

I HAVE MADE A NEW THREAD.

My email's in the email field if you wanna email me and complain about how you didn't get to kill Kali or something.

>>17716944
>>17716944
>>17716944