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    140 KB Chapter Quest VII Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)13:34 No.17683493  
    Filli! Ascendes in nomine Deus Imperator! Ave nostrum Capitulum et Imperium Aeternum!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)13:36 No.17683509
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    Had a good laugh... But someday it might come true.
    >> Adamus 01/26/12(Thu)13:38 No.17683531
    Ooorah! Rising suns forward!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)13:42 No.17683574
    >Mostar sisters trying to get our attention with t-shirts.jpg
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)13:42 No.17683584
    forgot my trip
    Thank you, elegan/tg/entleman, i think my French and Spanish are slowly corrupting my latin. However, as it is High Gothic anyway, so no one really gives a fuck as long as it sounds right.

    On other news - at the end of the last session Tactical Marine suggested some colour schemes for Rising Sons

    Anyone may contribute by using this
    or some other software.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)13:46 No.17683622
    "Remember who you are. You are my son and the one true rising sons. Remember..."

    the fuck is this
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)13:47 No.17683633
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    where we finished last session...

    http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17586818/ I
    http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17595495/ II
    http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17605495/ III
    http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17618098/ IV
    http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17646053/ V
    http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17661099/ VI
    previous threads
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)13:50 No.17683667
    Hopefully we find the lost third today!
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)13:50 No.17683674
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    lazily made movie quote generator. nothing special, but i liked the one i got here
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)13:51 No.17683679
    Can we start purifying the halberd? If/when we eventually face Asmodeus in combat, I'd assume such a weapon would be especially effective against him.
    >> Adamus 01/26/12(Thu)13:54 No.17683708
    Sounds good to me.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)13:54 No.17683710
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    Who was our progentitor chapter? When it comes to color schemes, I liked the middle one. The green and the gray seemed to clash in my opinion. The first was good too. But I think we
    should incorpate maybe a sort of transition affect, like how at dawn the the lowest point of the sky is orange, changing into a more red, then finally regular blue. Kind of like orange legs, reddish torso, with grey arms?

    Also, great to see you!

    Also, hell yah, second generation!
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)13:55 No.17683723
    We've gotta make our report to command, I think we're overdue.
    >> Adamus 01/26/12(Thu)14:02 No.17683801
    Adamus reporting, I think I like this one the most.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)14:02 No.17683803
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    Our progenetors are a mystery. But its 'sons' not 'suns'... also that would look crap.

    Also, the 4rth design for your consideration.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)14:04 No.17683814
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)14:06 No.17683840
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    Adam, Michael, good to see you. Yes, let us hope they are close now...

    Sountrack needed in order to enjoy this:
    SPACE MARINE soundtrack(find yourself)

    and anything else you find to be epic(i will add them to the list)

    Listening is mandatory. Failure is punished by death, Not having earphones is not an excuse.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)14:06 No.17683845

    >> Adamus 01/26/12(Thu)14:08 No.17683854
    Side order of business, Let's have a game with our brother-chapter at some point durring this!
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)14:10 No.17683883
    - take stock of the dead and wounded marines
    - find replacement for Chaplain mistius
    - locate chapter monastery (this needs to be done today)
    - Purchase additional gear for characters?
    - Improve Nordgrim and/or Salvation?
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)14:13 No.17683917
    Don't forget this >>17683723
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)14:16 No.17683938
    I'd vote for improving Nordgrim. Salvation is good and all, but unless something changes, that neighborhood has some problems with us, namely how *accidently* started a genocide. Salvation is great, but Heidrun sort of won't ever be in our control unless we save it from some big bad marauding force of Orks or something.

    Is subsector Cryptus (that's the one we're in, right) our assigned area, or is it Sector Deus as a whole? Because the only places that seem good for a Monastery are Lamenta and maybe Nordgrim, but Lamenta has the problem of not having people on it, and Nordgrim doesn't like technology. We might have to look at other subsectors, maybe when we've grown a bit.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)14:19 No.17683963
    For our monastery, Lamenta V seems best.

    >right next to our allies
    >death world status would make for good initiates if we decide to colonize it
    >close to Onyx, makes purchasing new equipment fairly simple

    >close to Onyx, if they attack us openly we're right on their doorstep, though the inverse is also true
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)14:20 No.17683980
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    it will cost d10 wealth, roll please. Also you are correct that this weapon will have a special bond with Asmodeus - but you aren't sure how it will manifest...
    welcome, brother Nigel. Your idea sounds awesome, but as this anon
    pointed out, you are RISING SONS. However, it is not unknown for chapter to change name... you can suggest it for the others if you want. As always, i am neutral on this.

    Yes, your progenitors are mystery that you didn't bother to find an answer to yet.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)14:22 No.17683998
    rolled 10 = 10

    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)14:26 No.17684047
    +Your airforce is now a part of your Machinery.
    +Salvation reaches 30 million population.
    +Salvation recruit pool decreases as there are less and less suitable candidates from now lost era of drugs, war and chaos. Current population is a lot more productive and Imperial, but less tough and determined. [Yearly initiates reduced to 20].
    +Jarred the Pirate wants to contact you. Do you accept message from this scum?
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)14:27 No.17684054
    Yes, let's see what he has to say.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)14:28 No.17684065
    Oh man, I'm so glad woke up when I did. Good thing I decided not to count on a courtesy email *coughcoughskargancough*

    Yes, let's see what he has to say but I also agree with >>17683883
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)14:28 No.17684068
    I am very much against using a deathworld atall. Its fine for colonisation, crusading or recruitment. But not HQ, that has to be something more interesting as the monastery has to be strategically placed, not just for this system but others too.

    The idea of a asteroid or moon is growing on me. I also like the idea of an iceworld…

    Can't we just have different equipment made?

    I dont want to use tainted weapons.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)14:29 No.17684070
    We'll listen to what he has to say. Criminals keep their ears close to the ground by nature, so he might have useful info.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)14:31 No.17684091
    Is there a monetary bonus to having a less strung out population? Or is this growth just a setback because we're space marines, and civilized people are SOFT.

    That Ice world we were supposed to look for, I think its a forbidden planet now.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)14:34 No.17684120
    That's the point of purifying them, they stop being tainted while still having special qualities.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)14:35 No.17684138
    Yeah, no. After what happened last time, I'm fully behind getting rid of the halbird. I like the suggestion someone made last time of ejecting it into the sun.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)14:35 No.17684141
    Dont point out the obvious to me.

    I know thats what its supposed to do. But its still heretical. And you act like its the only weapon in the imperium.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)14:35 No.17684143
    Also find the lost company. We got the wrath bone thingy that should help us chase them down.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)14:39 No.17684177
    If Heretical things, like the helmet and the halberd, are in stasis fields, do they have any influence whatsoever? Because if the field neutralizes any corruption, I think it's a better idea to keep these heretical artifacts under our watchful eye, and also give the morale boost of having trophies of our successes and mementos of our defeats.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)14:41 No.17684200
    I second you on both accounts. Just burn the halberd.

    How about we search our Lexicon for a suitable moon or asteroid. Their might be suitable ones in systems we already visited, but they were not mentioned because we were not looking for them
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)14:42 No.17684209
    I agree, we should definitely keep them if we can do so safely.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)14:43 No.17684220
    The thing is we can never be sure that the field neutralizes all corruption.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)14:43 No.17684223
    I personally don't like the asteroid thing. Why choose a small rock floating in space when you can have a big rock that floats in space and can have people live on said rock.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)14:51 No.17684299
    I want a asteroid because it's easy it set up (politicly), goes with the space theme, and likely has some minerals that we can use.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)14:53 No.17684310
    I think it just slows it down, to the point where we'd have to leave them sitting for a couple thousand years to get a day's worth of corruption. Still dangerous in the long term, but not "oh god daemons everywhere" dangerous.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)14:56 No.17684352
    The political argument is invalidated because Lamenta is just as barren as an asteroid. Planets would likely have more minerals as well. And a deathworld goes with the, I'm a space marine, I can kill you with my left foot while eating breakfast.

    On a side note, I think we should try to colonize Lamenta. Not necessarily in preparation for a Monastery, but because have a planet loyal to us is a good thing. Also, because Salvation's initiate rate fell, we need a new place to recruit. Deathworlds are great recruiting grounds.
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)15:01 No.17684391
    I think this is a great idea. We also don't too much about Lamenta, only that it appears to not have a population.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)15:01 No.17684401
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    sorry for delay, gf, sister and family seem to conspire against me.
    Purification will take a year to complete.
    sorry, i will send out letters to everyone now :D
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:02 No.17684416
    A space marine is a holy warrior that most likly owns no possessions, has no arrogance and upmost honour. They are the imperiums last line of defence.

    Not what you say.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:04 No.17684437
    But It's a death world and that means it will kill our serfs and make maintaining our buildings more expensive. Also I think being based on a asteroid would make repelling invasions easier if we maintain space superiority (which seems to be our specialty).
    On a side note: I agree with you about trying to colonize Lamenta. I'm just not sure how to go about it with out making the poor colonists hate us.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)15:05 No.17684452
    Oh I'm givin you shit bro, we cool.

    That said 50w for information that *might* benefit the chapter? Dude is trying to extort us.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)15:07 No.17684476
    Tell that to the Space wolves. Those guys...

    Speaking of, what is our chapters demeanor? Are we the holy warrior with no arrogance type? Or the Purge Everyone type. I'm sure not all Space marine chapters are like what you say, Tactical. Unless I'm wrong, which I most likely am. I've never actually played 40k, or any of the RPG, but I have read a bunch of the lore.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:08 No.17684489
    "One may privateer from a planet or xenos. But never from the emperor. We are the emperors weapons, without us you would have no home, nore future. Give us the information we need lest you lose further and perhapse in the future we may look on you as more than a privateer."
    >> Alpha Legionaire 01/26/12(Thu)15:08 No.17684491
    Well, do you have a place for one more brothers? I have just finished reading the earlier chapters.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:08 No.17684496
    So far we seem to rather reasonable and noble. (Thats one of the things we have to develop through role playing)
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)15:10 No.17684511
    >>H reporting in

    Helberd: I vote to purify it
    Monastery: I vote for fleet based chapter (ramilies class star fort anyone?)

    we need to know what he wants to tell us - but i don't want to pay him.

    Also: we should try to locate Lost Company & start preparations for next generation of marines (500 initiates!!)
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:10 No.17684513
    According to imperial creed, even the lowliest space marine of the lowliest chapter, should be afforded reguards by even the highest noble lord.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)15:11 No.17684520
    Don't know if anybody is aware of this, at first I thought this 'chapter' was going to a successor of http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Rising_Sons but then it became more apparent that this was supposed to be a completely new chapter...
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)15:11 No.17684534
    btw, building a real monastery costs between 100 and 1k Wealth, unless you will convert Eternity. Also you are right, that you can make relics yourself, but you have to have appropriate servants/contacts/allies to commision a work on book/weapon/ship, etc.
    They indeed have become a little soft under the protecting wing of Rising Sons, however slowly growing economy should start really accumulate considerable wealth in some time...
    This anon has a point. However there are lots of chapter that do use tainted weapons... they are known to be HIGHLy effective.
    You THINK that they have no influence while in stasis field. The truth is that there are very few tainted artifacts in the universe that do something by themselves, without a willing wielder...
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)15:11 No.17684535
    He might have information worth *something*, but 50 wealth for another "Onyxian techpriests are assholes!" is too high, and as space marines we are not obligated to run around doing the dirtywork of a pirate.

    Ask him the nature of this threat, if we are interested in further information we can negotiate the price.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:12 No.17684540
    Also we tend to dislike dependency.(as it leads to weakness)

    Come on it.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)15:12 No.17684544
    No, we are not Katana Marines. Not yet anyways but I don't think we'll be heading that direction anyways.
    >> Alpha Legionaire 01/26/12(Thu)15:14 No.17684562
    OP, which part of the galaxy we are currently in?

    And how many other chapters know us?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)15:15 No.17684578

    so we're a successor of the katana marines?
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:15 No.17684583
    The north, on the eastern edge.

    The only chapter we have met are the Silencers.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:18 No.17684618
    >However there are lots of chapter that do use tainted weapons...
    Name 1 that is not bloodravens or radical inquisitors.
    >> Alpha Legionaire 01/26/12(Thu)15:19 No.17684634

    Which segmentum?

    Tempestus or...

    Also about halberd, i think something we create with our own hands would be much better.

    We can create our relic weapon rather than finding a relic weapon.

    Also we shouldnt trust something that is corrupted, even it is purified.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:20 No.17684644
    No. We are completely new and different.

    And we obviously need to change our name.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)15:21 No.17684665

    That would be a good start imo...
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:22 No.17684676

    Friend chapter
    And their named the Silent Guardians my mistake.

    look up the rest your self
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)15:24 No.17684700
    We should start to think more about economy too: we burn any income as fast as we get any. So I think we should invest our wealth in salvation on sth.
    As for expanding our fleet: I think that te best way to do this is to concentrate on taking over ships of our enemies (I have some pirates in mind) if we have some adventage in battle.
    >> Alpha Legionaire 01/26/12(Thu)15:26 No.17684720

    Thank you brother. Also i kinda read previous threads too quickly. İ should read them again, not now though.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)15:27 No.17684745
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    Always! Nothing makes the Emperor happy as another worthy warrior in his armies!
    Emperor preserve me... I knew nothing about this o.O
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:29 No.17684770
    We should probably try to contact an artificer on salvation.

    Later we may need to train/promote some techmarines into artificers and station them in the manufactorum when we buld the monastery. That way we dont have to go so far to other worlds for some types of equipment.

    We should also see what onyx has to sell.

    I've been thinking about the characters and i'd suggest:

    Chapter master: master crafted power sword, power fist?

    New Chaplian: artificer armour, crozius achrynim, rosearus, and whatever other weapon they prefer. Melta bombs.

    Librarian: combi-bolter (so he doesnt have to use his psychic powers so much). Rune weapon (whatever he prefers)
    >> Alpha Legionaire !sU/ZJZJbvw 01/26/12(Thu)15:32 No.17684812

    Thank you brother.

    İ vote for monastery based.

    Also, previous threads isnt clear on that much. Though we are going the reasonable and honourable path, what is our primary combat tactics?
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)15:33 No.17684826
    If a fleet based chapter can add ships ad infinitum, can a monastery based chapter not? I don't see why a monastery based chapter can't have a huge fleet.

    I say for now we remain fleet based until we have enough capital to invest in a good monastery, as well as when we find a good place. Right now nothing seems appealing to me, I don't know about you guys.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:35 No.17684839
    Given our mysterious geneseed. We have yet to find our tactical calling. Although some effort has been made towards accurate boltguns, and heroes to challenge other heroes.
    >> Alpha Legionaire !sU/ZJZJbvw 01/26/12(Thu)15:36 No.17684855

    Well i see your point. Our chapter isnt big enough for a homeworld and we should keep our forces together. Still we should go monastery based as soon as possible.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)15:36 No.17684857
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    Jarred swears that it has nothing to do with Onyxians, however Kiotan, as a master diplomat, thinks that he really seems to be in a misserable position. Kiotan thinks that he can do the following:
    >Try to decrease the price(might backfire)
    >Try to recruit him for your cause(for whatever reasons)
    >Try to offer him an Escort ship for information
    Good to see you, H.
    Pic related - Sector Deus and you know only Silent Guardians, you brother chapter from the Grey Founding(the same one as you). However you never tried to start a PR campaign with other chapters, it was by accident that you met even SG.
    my god, NO.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:38 No.17684880
    Could I get some common upgrades and their costs.
    Also would it be possible to have a normal monastery but also upgrade Eternity like a monastery (so we have a mobile forward base)

    I know I've been trying to convince the others to invest in salvation but it's always some thing else is more important.

    Also we have learnt shock (a space combat tactic) so I was assuming that we would continue down that path.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)15:40 No.17684912
    Alright, let's invest in Salvation and get some stuff going. I personally like the idea of a planet monastery but we seem to be leaning more towards fleet based anyways; I'll lean with the majority.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)15:41 No.17684915
    I say try to recruit this guy as a chapter serf, get his fleet under our thumb. Get him to end his pirating ways and seek purification. If not, we should try to end any trace of pirating in the sector, starting with him. This time it will be most of the fleet, not just two escorts that were sent to explore.
    >> Alpha Legionaire !sU/ZJZJbvw 01/26/12(Thu)15:41 No.17684926

    I think we should think about making a planet sized space ship...

    Jokes aside for now lets stay space based until we stabilize our ecenomy, increase our numbers and get some renown.

    Also awe and shock tactics arecool but we should, you know, invest in legion tactics. Giving ultramarines the middle finger.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:42 No.17684941
    Their dose not seem to be any good reason for us not to have both.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:43 No.17684958
    That wont work. And ending rogue traiding in the area... impossible. We have to respect the charter.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:44 No.17684972
    Shock was (from what I understude) climing on the out side of a space ship then bashing our way in. Shocking (and then spacing) every one.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)15:45 No.17684984
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    Unfortunately, Salvation has no tradition in creation of relic weapons... You will have to invest into this field yourself or search for someone else to do it. maybe Onyx? trollface.jpg
    Nigel, you are right - Monastery based chapter CAN have fleet of any size, what I meant is that Monastery itself cannot be expanded ad infinitum. well, at least you are limited by the size of your planet. :D

    Also, I will prepare Chapter Doctrine template for you.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)15:46 No.17685001
    Wait, is this guy that Rogue trader we ousted from Heidrun? Old enemies turning full circle, asking for help.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)15:48 No.17685018
    I think we should remain raising sons. I really like the name, and the deed we acomplished while carring it. I think that it is fairly reasonable, that someone in vast imperial machine forgot, that other chapter of that name already exists.
    Fact that another raising sons already exists could help us in laying low, as one of lords of terra suggested (the one that got assasinated).

    I vote for recruiting him.

    >>Good to see you, H.
    Good to see you to. I really didn't want to miss this part of quest like the previous one.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:48 No.17685020
    No he is the one we scared of Nordgrim.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)15:48 No.17685025
    Does Nordgrim have any moons? The planet's dislike for technology won't matter one jot if we base a fortress-monestry on the moon above them (see The savages of Baal and the Blood Angels above for details), and we'd still get ready access to any archeotech from the crash site/recruits/be right next to them to defend the planet if pirates turn up. Plus, they like us and don't have suspicion upon them, which is more then could be said for Onyx or Tyr. Heck, if we're ever in a real scrape we can always call on THEM for help to bulk our numbers out a bit.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)15:50 No.17685046
    No, that was Leyshan Moriarty, Jarred is just a pirate we ran into when we first arrived at Nordgrim.

    Which reminds me, this guy might know something about him, since he would've fled to the Black Guild if he survived the battle over Heidrun.
    >> Alpha Legionaire !sU/ZJZJbvw 01/26/12(Thu)15:51 No.17685058

    Might work, i mean we can actually even build a fortress at planet side.

    Also OP, do we have a diplomacy panel where our relations with different groups are displayed. (dont understand how you prepare those pics.. :))
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)15:53 No.17685077
    I knew it was the Nordgrim guy.
    >>17684958 threw me off.
    How does killing this band of pirates interfer with a Charter of Trade or what. He isn't a Rogue Trader to the best of our knowledge, and the Imperium can put down a Rogue Trader if they get uppity, even though they are allowed to trade beyond the edge of the Imperium.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:53 No.17685084
    The problem with Nordgrim is that it's so far way from the rest of the sector.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:55 No.17685105

    A planet has more resources than a moon, which is why i initially favoured this idea.

    But it also has to be able to be strategically placed to protect the sector, but also have good lines of supply. In addition, it has to remain fairly secret.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)15:57 No.17685118
    Hey we have that dark Elder ship that we have been wondering what to do with. And a good deal of Xeno tech wealth. Perhaps we could work out a deal?
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)15:58 No.17685139
    Nordgrim's in the upper middle if I recall correctly. Its equdistant from all those enemy-filled worlds to the left and the Imperial worlds to right,
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)15:59 No.17685145
    I still think we should test ships weapons on its weak points. Incase we have to face eldar and dark eldar ships again.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)15:59 No.17685146
    The ice world is (probably) the best choice then. He needed us to find it, and that means Onyx doesn't know about it.
    >> Alpha Legionaire !sU/ZJZJbvw 01/26/12(Thu)16:00 No.17685163

    Nordgrim it is then. Also, what is our aim now brothers?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)16:01 No.17685164
    "He" being the late High Lord of course.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)16:02 No.17685171
    Pretty sure he said don't go to the ice world, he was forbidding it for some reason. Also, with teh other Rising Sons chaoter way out in the middle of nowhere, do we really have to rport in to the HLoT? The two guys that knew we existed are dead now, and the other chapter could be an excuse for not having reported in if we get found out. We could say we were reporting in, but in a clerical error, come clerk deleted our report because he thought it was sent twice.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)16:03 No.17685192
    You can upgrade both of them, but the simple problem with ship is that it's too small/not specialised for things such as:
    (some of these things I mention can be built to a small degree, but not any further, like max lvl 1 Barracks, and only in Cruisers or heavier ships)
    I have no prices at hand right now, but building something on ship will cost about 50% more because of logistics and need to rearrange inner workings in the ship.

    so, Rising Sons, whom do you hate most, from all your travels so far, as a Chapter Master? Eldar who cut off your arm? Asmodeus who tricked you? Moriarty who laughed and insulted you? Borborygmos who killed your friend? cast your vote
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)16:03 No.17685195
    We have not found the Ice world yet. (unless I am mistaken)

    For right now I think would should be fleet based. When we get a good planet and enough wealth then we can settle down. (also a half monastery battle barge would still be useful if/when we settle down)
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)16:07 No.17685227
    Chaos, Particularly Asmodeus for our weapons were no good against him.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)16:08 No.17685237
    If this is for a favored enemy, I think we should go with that freak of nature Borborygmos, who killed the most of our brothers. Or Asmodeus, for he is still around.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)16:09 No.17685246
    No it was in the bottom left corner.
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)16:09 No.17685250
    I hate Onyx the most, they're somehow involved in the disappearance of the third.
    We don't know of the other chapter, how would we argue that? I think it'd be a good idea to send our report to whoever took over for our masters. We don't want the Inquisition coming after us.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)16:10 No.17685262


    Borborygmos was delivered the Emperor's Justice, and it does no good to waste hatred on a foe already crushed. Moriarty was beneath us, and beneath even contempt. And the Eldar may have cost us an arm, but from that too we can recover.

    But... Asmodeus. Asmodeus plotted against us with no reason aside from the warped visions of chaos, and tried to use us, the Master of the Rising Sons, to sow the seeds for our chapter's downfall. It is this warped being that deserves the most hatred, in the hope that bitter hatred can be converted into the Emperor's retributuion upon his feeble plots and schemes.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)16:11 No.17685272
    No, we were asked to tell him if we found it. I assume this also meant "don't erect a monastery on my world", but I'm sure a devout servant of the Emperor would understand, given the circumstances. Also he's dead so he can't use it.

    The Eldar will pay in time. Any daemon is a vile enemy, and should be hated regardless of their actions. Moriarty is either dead or deposed, he ate his arrogant words as his fleet burned. Borborygmos is dead, the death of our brother is avenged for every treacherous marine we kill.

    So right now my most hated foe is a tie between the Dark Eldar and the Onyxians.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)16:14 No.17685291
    Borborygmos is dead a gone. At the moment, I fear/hate both the unknown threat of Asmodeus and the looming/potential threat of Onyx.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)16:29 No.17685447
    At least! What will we do if our some marine will mutate? I'm for allowing them to serve our chapter till glorious death in battle.

    How long have we wait till our new cruiser will be ready to serve us? I would really want it to become our flagship.

    As for most hated enemy: Asmodeus. He tried to use us as a tool and if he succeded it could mean our destruction. That we can not forgive

    What is our wealth status? We should prepare next generation of marines and try to generate more income.

    As for monastery: we should wait. We do not have resources to build one, so why bother?
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)16:33 No.17685484
    We have 49 wealth, it says so at the top of the thread. (it's in the images)
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)16:36 No.17685518
    I hate the eldar the most.

    The crushing loss of mistius and the others was bad. But also part of war.

    It is the dark eldar which managed to out think us completly and capture our ship.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)16:36 No.17685519
    I read them, I just somehow missed that.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)16:42 No.17685567
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    AAAAH! iv'e been lurking on this thread since the first one! i couldn't find the last post tho, going to get caught up right merow.
    >> Unonymous 01/26/12(Thu)16:43 No.17685572
    And the techpriests, who managed to steal an entire BATTLE GROUP?

    I'd hate them more, to be honest. They're pricks. Even the TYRRANS are nicer.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)16:46 No.17685598
    Half a battle group, and we are not even sure that it is the Onyxions.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)16:59 No.17685709
    We have two unrelated sources both pointing towards the Adeptus Mechanicus of a forge world attacking and capturing our brothers. We know of one group fitting that description, and they are known for being more loyal to the mechanicus than the Imperium.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)17:01 No.17685722
    I concede that they probably did it but we don't know for sure. Still the best way to know for sure is to find the half of the battle group that crashed.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)17:15 No.17685834
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    Nordgrim has four moons, two of which are habitable(desert-moon and mountain-moon). Mountain-moon is inhabited by some sort of semi-sentient xeno lizards.

    that's it! I am alone now!
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)17:17 No.17685867
    Are there any habitable planets/moons in the Lamenta.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)17:17 No.17685868
    I'd say Asmo, he attacked our open minds like a fortress, unbarred and unguarded.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)17:20 No.17685896
    I vote for monastery, preferrably a moon over Nordgrim or Lamenta. Also what DID we do with the DE ship?
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)17:22 No.17685918
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    monastery(max lvl) can be built out of Eternity, that was the original Endyrion Machus' plan for Rising Sons. Average base can be converted out of a Cruiser and a small outpost can be built out of an escort

    Jarred agrees to either:
    Serve you for 50W and give you information
    Just give you information for 30W

    He also accepts/can sell your:
    Dark eldar xeno-teleporter: 20W / he will take 3W
    Leyyshkin 75W / he will take 10W
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)17:23 No.17685927
    I vote for establishing a base on one of Nordgrim's moons, then! We'll have a suitable base from whence to recruit from quite close by. The system is also a good distance away from Onyx, which ought to serve us well in the future.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)17:23 No.17685929
    DE ship is currently in orbit over Heidrun. Not sure if we can use the weapons though.

    I think we should get a fleet together, and use the wraithbone to locate our lost brothers.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)17:24 No.17685943
    what do you mean by 'psichic manifetation'?
    Is it chance for manifesting psyker talents or something else?

    Can we convince Omirionn to train marines who have predispositions to become librarians?
    As I remember he was against it, but how strong is his standing? What if we ask him to care for them so they can't become threat to themselves and their brothers?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)17:24 No.17685947
    Nordgrim's Mountain moon would allow us to have a Fortress-Monastery dug in deep inside the mountain, with lots of tunnels leading to AA batteries/Machine gun Nests/etc.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)17:26 No.17685973
    Lamenta V has one red desert moon.
    DE ship is still in guarded in Heidruns orbit. btw, Marius, I don't think that I saw you before - so welcome to Rising Sons.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)17:27 No.17685976
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    Plus we could ride lizards/dinosaurs!
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)17:28 No.17685997
    Trading xeno tech to normal humans is Extra Heresy.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)17:31 No.17686045
    I'm against givim him anything. we can arrange a meeting and then take what we need - he is pirate after all, so I don't think it wouldn't become stain on our honor

    I think we should left construction of monastery for time, when we will have much more resources. It will be to much of a loss to convert eternity - right now we need any ship we have - our fleet is to small to loose its most powerful part - without it our losses in any battle will be considerably larger.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)17:32 No.17686055
    Have him sell the DE ship, and teleporter. After he has done that ask him to return to us and we pay him the 50W for him to become our serfs (and make the serf bit clear to him).

    I Propose that we sink enough wealth into salvation to have it jump a tech level. I want this because A we will get more from taxes and B the tech should start disseminating to the rest of the planet.
    >> Erazmuuz 01/26/12(Thu)17:32 No.17686059

    Dear Emperor, I love this idea.

    Purging the planet's surface of these lizards would also provide some good sport and practice for our 2nd generation of Space Marines. A fortress-monastery, dug deep into the side of the mountain, yes.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)17:32 No.17686061
    Thanks, I've been lurking since first thread, missed a few caught up and decided to join. Really awesome stuff here Skargan.
    Are we going to have any other way to get rid of this Xeno filth? if not i say we plant the meltas and blow the accursed thing?
    He might use the ship or the tele for himself, and that's bad news...unless hes on our side....
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)17:35 No.17686109
    Maybe Ordo Xenos could get some use out of it?
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)17:38 No.17686158
    I like this idea. Contact order xenos for some brownie points and off loading this wretched thing is my vote.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)17:38 No.17686160
    But they won't pay us.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)17:39 No.17686176
    you understood correctly. About 5% of battle brothers from second generation have a chance to become psykers at some point.

    >You must understand me, master... My skills lie in killing the witch, not training the witch. I hate what I am with all my heart. I am afraid of even trying what you suggest, because I will hate my students and they will hate me...
    Unonymous, glad you made it. And it's Tyrians(unless you want to insult them).
    You have no idea to whom Jarred will sell it. I will randomize it.
    acting like a dick will get you Treacherous reputation. yes, he is a pirate, but if you will ever have to deal with his kind again, they will remember it very well.

    Jarred would agree with being a serf, however he suggests that as a servant he would be most useful to you as a ship captain/colony commandant/explorer(at least he's skilled in these things). Also he could become your private corsair:
    5+d10 Wealth per year for unrestricted piracy
    d5 Wealth for restricted piracy(only from non-Imperial sources)
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)17:41 No.17686217
    I say we recruit this pirate, but keep it to restricted piracy. No need to have a heresy bump every year from one of our servants running around blowing up trader ships.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)17:42 No.17686226
    Yes, but dealing a xeno ship to a pirate so it can float around our sector doing who-knows-what? Pass.
    I say we make him a scout/explorer. An extra set of eyes always helps in the vastness of space.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)17:42 No.17686227
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)17:43 No.17686254
    sorry for typoes

    I'm not for giving him DE escort. I'm for getting from him what we need. Then we can decide what will we do with man. As he said he is hard pressed, and he need us more.
    The second thing: HE IS A PIRATE. It's like negotiating with terrorsist - if we give him what he wants, any man in the sector will think, that he can set price for anything that we need/we should get for free.

    How long before Angelus Novus will be ready?
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)17:44 No.17686265
    I'd also support giving him the xeno ship, if he wants it. If I remember correctly, he rather hated xenos and might not want it. He also might not have any psychers and can't only psychers control the ship?
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)17:45 No.17686275
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    As strange as it might be, Jarred is appaled by the prospect of having to command Dark Eldar ship.
    > Nay, milord, all my life I flew only with good old human tech and nothing can be better than a sturdy steel eagle under my arse. That xeno-shite is going to kill you, i don't trust it.
    You have no Ordo Xenos contacts and getting through to Inquisition is a lot harder than you think.
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)17:46 No.17686285
    We shouldn't tell Ordo Xenos anything. they would have a problem with us keeping this stuff for so long. We should keep the DE ship under our control, where it's nice and safe.

    I think we should buy Jared's loyalty with the Teleporter + how much wealth it would cost. Have him continue to explore. We need a better place for a monastery than a moon over a feudal world or a deathworld.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)17:47 No.17686305
    Seconded. Have him sell the tele, buy his loyalty.
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)17:48 No.17686311
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)17:48 No.17686317
    I think I misunderstood. He will become our serf and generate income? If so, I will support this option.
    Better not be seen as treacherous
    >> Nigel 01/26/12(Thu)17:49 No.17686331
    Why would we want him to sell the teleporter. We can do that ourselves.

    A pirate with a teleportarium is a pirate that can easily disable enemy ships for us. Even if he doesn't want a Xeno ship, teleporting technology is extremely rare in the Imperium.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)17:50 No.17686334
    Hmm, 30w+giving him the teleporter to sell and letting him keep all profits would equal his hiring/info price. I say we do that, one teleporter (that requires a psyker to operate, good luck with that) is far less dangerous than an entire xenotech ship.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)17:50 No.17686336
    I'm not for giving him the DE ship, I'm for getting him to sell the DE ship for us. (of which he will take a commission)

    I'm agains giving him too much freedom. I do not trust him, thus I propose giving him a Honor Guard/Oversight Counsel. Too guide him in the wishes of the chapter and aid him in endeavors deemed necessary. (probably like 4 Marines)
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)17:54 No.17686376
    Honor guard of who? I hope were not talking marines. But that's not a bad idea, a few tough NCO's from our IG guard to act as marines and watch dogs on his ship.

    Could we give him a small amount of pay so he doesn't even need to pirate imperial shipping?
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)17:55 No.17686393
    Since Omiron is less Librarian, more "Kill all the psykers", I think we should work towards finding another librarian. The second generation is more psychically tuned, so we might need someone to train anyone that shows a psychic ability.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)17:57 No.17686430
    Guard for the Caption. The Honor Guard is for appearance, in truth they would be there to make sure that he does not betray/abandon us. And It's to cement the Image that he is a independent serf fleet.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)17:58 No.17686442
    The sisters of battle said they could help us with training librarians.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:00 No.17686460
    Don't pay him. Just have him not pirate imperial ships. If he does, we'll send him and his crew to the immaterium, permanently. Our new guys do need some experience under their belts.

    Also, I feel like having Marines on their ship would be fine as long as they aren't attacking Imperial ships.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)18:01 No.17686465
    Keep the DE ship, i don't like the idea of of a merchant house buying it, or it showing up in the hands of our enemy in this sector or any other sector for that matter.
    I say we destroy it, but i don't any one is for "throwing away money" even if it is an affront to our most holy emperor.

    Yes, lets keep an eye out for psychic presence in our battle brothers. And if one is found to take them to the sisters
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)18:03 No.17686491
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    One important thing that you should notice - Jarred has no ship of it's own right now, you will need to provide him with one. On the other hand - he has a very capable crew and a lot of good skills.
    Next year 031.M41
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)18:05 No.17686511
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    Brothers, i present to you entirly and completly, this, the thunder-bolter!

    We should get one for our chapter master as soon as possible. And possibly the sternguard veterans. (then we can use them instead of terminators)

    It would be awsome if any kind draw-brother would make this exist.

    If we go for mountain moon then the hammer makes even more sense! It can be used for digging, and we can make stone carving one of our chapters traidmarks.
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)18:06 No.17686516
    Agree to Nordgrim's request, and call Voroshilav to answer the accusation, have him inspected by a chaplain. If he just likes little boys, well fuck if I care. If he is truly corrupted by chaos, death to the heretic.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:08 No.17686531
    Nam can go if he wants. I suggest we drop him off and any friendly, local imperial world and buy him a ticket on the next ship out of here, to the nearest Ogryn world/ IG regiment.

    If Nimrod wants to lead green soldiers, fine by me.

    Is our fleet master corrupted by Chaos, or is he did he just develop a fetish for sailors? If its the later, let him stay, he's a good Admiral. If the warp has corrupted his very soul, let's see if we can redeem him. If not, by the fire be PURGED.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)18:09 No.17686541
    When did we get Kassandra? Considering our history with infiltrators this might be important.

    Nam: free to go, but please remember our friendship

    Nimrod: Sure, if it can be managed
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)18:09 No.17686547
    Ask Nam if he wants to go to the pirates! A orgyn at the front of a boarding party is TERRIFYING. If not, let him go with out blessings.

    Bring Voroshilav for questioning. If he is found wanting give him to the sisters. They will flay the heresy out of him.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)18:10 No.17686554
    * our blessings
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)18:11 No.17686572
    >> The Celt !BzcOsK03.w 01/26/12(Thu)18:11 No.17686575
    Ave brothers, reporting in for duty.

    It's ironic, I'm Irish and I'm normally on GMT time, but for the next three or so months I'm on MST time (GMT +7), which means I'll be late for most of this threads.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:11 No.17686576
    Kassandra has been with us from the beginning. But when you think about it, she could be corrupted and just wants to remove our fine Admiral. We should have our entire non-marine command staff be evaluated for warp taint.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)18:11 No.17686578
    Forgive me if this is just bad memory, but who is Kassandra?
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:12 No.17686591
    Our astropath, read the Allies section of that picture at the beginning of the thread.
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)18:13 No.17686596
    Nimrod, not Nordgrim.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)18:14 No.17686602
    Nimrod can have his group of young guns. May the Emperor lead them to victory and glory in the next campaign.

    "I want Voroshilav brought before me right now. He is to answer for these accusations. Depending on his answer he shall either be sent to Mostar for cleansing... or I shall expunge of this filth myself, with fist and fire!"
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)18:14 No.17686607
    Holy Terra, has Asmodeus has made as see traitors everywhere?
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)18:14 No.17686609

    By the way we should start a party out to find the Lost company soon.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:16 No.17686633
    Task Force Lantern was reformed after the Chaos incursion, right? If not, lets have all ships start searching again, aside from those part of Task Force Shield.
    >> The Celt !BzcOsK03.w 01/26/12(Thu)18:18 No.17686650

    Definitely; as I was saying last thread with every passing year the chance chaos has ensnared the lost third grows greater, and having 1st generation Rising Sons turn traitor will be a huge black mark on our Chapter's history.

    We need to find them soon, we've been putting this major task off for a while now.
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)18:19 No.17686659
    I think it happened during the first or second session.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)18:20 No.17686665
    We have that eldar thingy so I think that we should take a lager fouce and the CM as we should find something sooner.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)18:21 No.17686686
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    to be exact, they claimed that they can provide services instead of a Librarian, that is to purge everything. However they are qualified to train chaplains...
    Oh man, I LOVE YOU! and Sternguard is an awesome term, i immediately transfer 10 best first generation marines to this new unit...(if everyone agrees with this name, because Honour Guard is cool but a little too generic, If you have a better name - don't be shy and suggest it)
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)18:22 No.17686695
    Love it. Glory and Honour to the Sternguard.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)18:22 No.17686697
    Many of sensed something was wrong when Asmodeus popped up, but we did nothing until it was nearly too late. From now on it's better to speak up and look the fool than stay silent and be one.

    Skargan, how dangerous are those xenos on Nordgrim's moon? I really like that suggestion of sending our new marines there to clean them out.

    Agreed, there's no reason to put this off now that we have the wraithbone to lead us to them. We should put together a sizable fleet so we don't have any further DE/pirate shenanigans waylaying us.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)18:23 No.17686700
    1.) Nam, you must take us to your planet. Once we are there we may raise a platoon of your kind.
    (Ever since we encountered those obliterators ive been thinking about anything with matching fire power and there is nothing in our armories which could do it. Therefore we see what the techmarines can do to increase ogryn fire power and armour)
    2.) Of cource nimrod. But i think the second generation should be kept in there own squads, with a first generation veteran sargent at they're head.

    3.) Then he shall be taken to the sisters, to have them do what they will to see if anything could be recovered of this man. An investigation should be commenced, perhapse by the diplomatic marine. This has Asmodeus's fingerprints on it.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)18:25 No.17686726
    first of all we should investigate this ship, then go to search for lost company

    ask nam for a little patience - he can always train with marines

    let nimrod have what he wants

    as for kassandra and our fleet commander - test them both for taint. If one of them is tainted - purge. If fleet commander is not chaos worshipper, order him to behave. We cant have rumors about our officers acting like heretics. Such rumors can hurt reputation of our chapter
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)18:25 No.17686728
    Honor to the Sternguard!
    Perfect. Have the un-bloodied clear them out.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)18:25 No.17686733

    Umm...are you even familiar with Warhammer 40k? At least the tabletop game, cause space marine chapters have units called Sternguard that along with Vanguards and terminators make up the first company of a chapter. Unless you mean to make those marines Sternguard veterans which means they are basically elite shooty marines...
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)18:26 No.17686742
    No need to get dickish.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)18:27 No.17686760
    I second this to be simple.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)18:28 No.17686769
    Voroshilov seems to have half a dozen male lovers, but otherwise he has no psychic talent, mutation or any other kind of Chaos corruption... However he seems very embarrased about all of this. Kassandra still wants him executed.

    you are too paranoid, Kassandra is your astropath since 1st session.
    >Will pairats fight baddies? I want to kill baddies more than go home, because i don't remember where is my home.
    it seems he did a good job on your siege mentality
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)18:30 No.17686789

    I'm just putting it out there, renaming the honour guard sternguard will make things kind of complicated when the chapter eventually becomes 10 companies strong with first company containing Vanguard/sternguard veterans and terminators...
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:30 No.17686791
    If its all consensual... Lets just keep this on the down-low.

    Let Nam join the pirates since he has no home.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)18:33 No.17686828
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    Voroshilov: keep this under wraps. I have no idea on 40ks stance with homosexuality.

    YES! Nam i take it is VERY loyal to us? all the better to have on that ship.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)18:34 No.17686840

    If he's loyal to us and to the throne of Terra, we don't care what side his bread is buttered. Unless this is actually against regulations, Kassandra has no case... and tell her as such, but thank her for bringing up her suspicions regardless. Better to report a suspected taint and be proven wrong then to let a true taint fester unquestioned.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:35 No.17686843
    Westplanet Cult of the Emperor Church:


    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)18:36 No.17686855
    Ask Voroshilov for moderation and discretion. Also give some minor punishment for impropriety. Tell Kassandra that killing him would be a waste of the emperors resources.

    To Nam: Sure they kill baddies. (make doubly sure that the pirates only attack Xenos from not on)

    Love the Sternguard
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)18:39 No.17686886
    what pirates? jarred?
    >>Jarred has no ship of it's own right now, you will need to provide him with one.

    nam better stays with us.
    as for jarred? did he told us something? Is it wise to give him one of our ships? IOur fleet is not big so we can sponsor enyone. On the other hand some pirate generated income is welcome.

    Anyway what about our investmens in chapter economy? We NEED more sources of wealth.

    We need to investigate ship, that apparently is visiting Nordgrim every 7 years. we can't have anyone sticking their noses on a planet, where we found 3 STC print-outs.

    then we need to find lost company
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)18:40 No.17686889
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)18:42 No.17686922
    That moon has a wide choice of lizard fauna:
    +humanoid, tool using lizars - most intelligent
    +quadrupedal, huge croc-like lizards - heaviest and strongest
    +raptor-like quick lizards - most dangerous, as they hunt in packs and learn very quickly
    + more than a hundred species of smaller/less adapted lizards

    About the Eye:
    it is specifically enchanted to show way to spirits of the marines that are being held on Onyx, not the others(they wen't missing within the vision)
    second and first generation is not being mixed in structure, Nimrod was talking about socialisation :)
    I admit that I don't play wargame, because it is expensive and rapes it's own fluff. On the other hand in our Chapter Sternguard can have completely different meaning. If you have a better name than this - suggest it and we will listen, dear anon.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:42 No.17686924
    Maybe we can get a Jarred a ship from this guy who just appeared above our planet, Nordgrim.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:44 No.17686938
    Are there Marines being held on Onyx?!?! If they are, and the eye can find them, well, sounds like this sector is going to need a new forgeworld, because it's first one is going to burn.

    But seriously, if they are, we're going to have some talking to do with the AdMech.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)18:46 No.17686962


    Being gay is completly against the emperor and a doorway to chaos. With the importance of a new generation, no imperial citizen can afford such things. It is also an indication of infermity, he has spent all this time on the ship and has forgotten of the pleasures of wimen. Therefore, hes is to be left with the sisters of battle.
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)18:47 No.17686967
    Hold your horses. Eldar lies are no reason to attack a forge world. We still need hard evidence.

    What can we get in the way of spies to try and confirm these rumors?

    Also, do we know where this ice planet might be? If so, I say we make that our next destination.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)18:49 No.17686992
    the Ice Planet is a forbidden world. We were given finsing it as a mission, but after 5 years or so, the guy that sent us that mention told us to forget about it, and to consider the planet forbidden.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)18:51 No.17687016
    The sisters of battle are not whores to be contacted for the sake of relieving our troop's frustrations!

    Heidrun probably has hoes though, we might be able to use them.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)18:54 No.17687042
    Dear anon, for simplicity reasons we decided not to separate different companies because it becomes a logistics clusterfuck for me to manage. Companies exist, but they are not emphasised.
    In general in 40k, like all dictatorships it is frowned on at best. Not good for morale, birth rates, might lead to Slaanesh, etc.

    Voroshilov apologizes and promises to hide this and suppress it as much as possible. He thanks you for your understanding.

    Yes, Nam is very loyal to you, because a few years ago you saved him from Dark Eldar... But as you found no use for him, workaholic techmarines forced him to clean your ships and Nam isn't much into it.
    Chapter Doctrine: LOOT LOOT LOOT
    just joking.

    also, Jarred managed to sell what you gave him...
    you gained 17+65=82 Wealth
    and he gained 13 Wealth
    do you want to:
    a) hire him(50W)
    b) info(30)
    c) let him go fuck himself

    Also, Jarred sold the tech to some shady Rogue Trader, so it isn't such a big heresy... But heresy nonetheless. +6% Heresy
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)18:55 No.17687054
    seconded. If we are certain, that our brothers are on onyx, we should confront admech. we can always tell that our librarian made contact with our brothers and with emperor guidance located them there. If we are not certain, we need to search for part of Lost Company that is stranded on some ice world which we had to find anyway.

    its 030.M41 so we are 5 years after we captured angelus novus - can we add it already to our fleet? If so, can you tell us how its machine spirit reacts after cleansing. I think we should move our chapter command on our new warship if ist already available
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)18:56 No.17687060
    Wow i didnt say that.

    Our problem is more complex than 'locate hoars commander' the sisters are pleged only to the emperor (i think), but what i meant by 'the pleasures of women' is not just their body, but being around them, their demeanor.

    They have the capacity to still have kindness even for those they hate. They make us much better men than we would be if we were alone.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)18:58 No.17687087
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    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)19:00 No.17687104
    I vote to hire him with the precautions I mentioned before. Also tell him to only attack those Xenos.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)19:02 No.17687120
    possible renames for Sternguard?

    "Honored Sons"
    "Risen Sons"
    "Eclipse Sons"
    "Elder Sons"
    "Fortunate Sons"
    "Guardian Sons"
    "DeathSons" (troll Dark Angels?)

    not very creative but I tried
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)19:04 No.17687146
    Considering he doesn't have a ship, he is kind of usless to us, besides being a fence for those DE things. Also, we did get hime some business with the DE stuff sale, will he tell us that information now? If not, it seems we are done for now. We shouldn't outfit him with one of our ships; an ex-space marine ship should not stoop to the levels of a lowly pirate.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)19:05 No.17687152
    OR we could just wait untill they do some heroics worthy of naming. (similar to blood angels death company)

    While the idea of having a privateer at our disposal is cool. It isnt fitting with our chapter and is a conflict of interests in the future.

    Gread, more heresy and we just sold the weapon which allowd dark eldar to beam aboard and steal one ship. We just sold our kryptonite to a rogue RT...
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)19:05 No.17687154
    Don't we still need to give him a ship, or will he use the money we use to hire to find one himself?

    Still, I vote to hire him. When he gets up and running, it'll be far easier to get information from him.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)19:05 No.17687156
    What do you mean? He has his own ships.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)19:06 No.17687161
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    To be honest - some of these sound cool and I am more than happy to accept any initiative :)
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)19:07 No.17687174
    Nope, see OP's post here >>17686491

    Jared obviously came begging to us in the first place because he needs a replacement ship, and wants that 50W to buy one.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)19:09 No.17687181
    second thing I wanted you to clarify. We found 3 STC rint-out's on Nordgim. Havent eldar supposed to give us location of another one for? I tink we can assume that we relased those eldar, that were our prisoners. Or was it changed for their information on lost company?

    Can't we get info from jarred in exchange for some long term contract for him? Something like leasing maybe?. We give him command of one of our escorts, but its still part of our fleet. He can then earn right to become independent?

    What do you think of First-born as name of our honour guard/sternguard?
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)19:10 No.17687190
    Lets start investing. Some for industry for salvation, A fair bit to start a spy network, Some saved for Nordgrim.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)19:10 No.17687192
    Let's swing buy Nordgrim on Angelus Novus's maiden voyage. We should investigate this mysterious ship.
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)19:10 No.17687193
    We found TWO STCs at Nordgrim. The third is the one we traded the Eldar for. It was a light anti-tank vehicle.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)19:10 No.17687195
    >rogue Rogue Trader

    We lost the Equilibrium because the attack was focused on it, they teleported in upwards of 50 troops in there, compared to the 20ish the rest got. This rogue trader would need to have 50+ troops on par with the dark eldar to overtake one escort that has 15 marines, not to mention cloaking technology to stop us from just shooting him.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)19:11 No.17687201
    Didn't we got a new tank stc in exchange for the eldar captives? + info on lost company.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)19:11 No.17687203
    I like first born. either that or honored sons!

    Lets hire him
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)19:12 No.17687207
    I think, at some point, we should build industry on Nordgrim and "raise" them into the space age. After the possible civil war and any other complications it might bring about, we'll have our own primitive-minded planet, possibly openly controlled by us or as a puppet state, building our space ships and vehicles.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)19:13 No.17687217
    that's an idea, but we have significant investments to make in other things right merow. noteably a spy network
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)19:13 No.17687222
    Second'd, my long-term belief
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)19:13 No.17687227
    We need to start building this monastery.

    Lizards are too cold blooded for my liking. I say we hunt them or eat them while we tunnel the monastery out of one of the mountains. (is that what we decided?)

    Does the moon rotate? Otherwise we're looking at permanent day or permanent night. I dont know which i favour.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)19:14 No.17687232
    Yes but that will take a long time and a lot of wealth,
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)19:14 No.17687233
    only 2 STC's were found on Nordgrim so far and Kristarchos mentioned, that something more was found, but he said that it needs more research... 3rd one was from Eldar - the Shieldbreaker Tank.

    >Can't we get info from jarred in exchange for some long term contract for him? Something like leasing maybe?. We give him command of one of our escorts, but its still part of our fleet. He can then earn right to become independent?

    Jarred would agree with that, but then he wants to be allowed unrestricted piracy for 5 years and unrestricted piracy for 10 years(he will be paying you this whole time). + you get info on your enemies
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)19:15 No.17687252
    thanks for clarification

    we have shitton of initiates. we are gerring them faster then money to make them real marines.

    we should go to nordgim then we should start search for our lost brothers.

    as I remember there was some imperial world overrun by orcs - we can always go there to ger experience in battle - maybe we can find there some archeotech? but right now mysterious ship and lost company are priorities
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)19:19 No.17687284
    10 years is a long time, especially using a ship belonging to the Noble Rising Sons.

    If we come into control of a new ship, lets give it to him in return for his loyalty and profit.

    Also, to Nordgrim
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)19:19 No.17687287
    You ask for too much. I counter offer a ship, Restricted piracy for 5 years (he will keep profits) and Restricted piracy onward (we get percentage of profit). And he will get our aid in repair and resupplying from now on.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)19:21 No.17687308
    seconded. purge the lizards

    Lets keep the stronger ones running around? never know when we could use them as a testing/ritual hunt style thing.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)19:21 No.17687309
    Before we leave I want to sink 40W worth of Industry into salvation. And seed 40W to start a spy network.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)19:22 No.17687330

    Although im not ok with pirate funds staining our noble coffers.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)19:23 No.17687338
    The stronger ones might die off/devolve if we kill their prey.
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)19:23 No.17687348
    It's restricted piracy so it's ok. I.e. only against xenos and heretics.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)19:27 No.17687391
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    Good call, lets keep all but the primitive tool users scurrying around the moon.
    If that's the case Letters of marque for everyone!!
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)19:27 No.17687392

    It is clear that we need to invest in them. But i dont want to lose the feudal and witch hunter bonuses. Nore do i want to destroy the helpfull emperor of this world.

    I made two suggestions earlier:
    1.) bring them food, see how this improves initiate production.

    2.) have them manufacture the warbike STC we got from them. Civilian version of this bike could replace; cavalry, carriages and ploughs to improve agriculture without significantly changing their social structure.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)19:30 No.17687430
    isn't salvation getting to much of our wealth? We put there more then we are earning back

    I say: lest spent 100 wealth to prepare next generation of marines or spend 80 on industry(we need money!) and 20 on spy

    I second this

    thanks again for explaining situation with stc's
    Could you give us info what output could angelus novius in battle? Or is it just a cruiser.

    And one more time: what do you all think about naming our guard 'First born' ?
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)19:31 No.17687440

    Motorcycle knights? seconded. This would also give us a well trained rider stock on this planet.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)19:33 No.17687471
    We only have 121 wealth, your plan calls for spending 200 wealth. Also it is a good Idea to leave a little wealth unspent for the unexpected.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)19:34 No.17687477

    Spying Methods:

    - diplomat marine
    - privateer traider
    - sisters of battle?
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)19:37 No.17687510
    We've already sunk a butt ton of capital into Salvation. Lets let chill for a while. It seems we gain the most money by fighting enemies and taking there stuff (re: Adventuring). Just like in most scenarios, high risk, hi reward. After we stop off at Nordgrim, lets find some danger to protect the sector from. We're at full strength, now's a great time to do it.

    We're the Imperiums greatest warriors, not it's greatest investors. That would be the Rogue Traders.

    I'm pretty sure Task Force Sheild can be disolved. We no longer really need to protect salvation too much, it's pretty much safe. Maybe leave an escort or two above it. Lets get the Eternity to Nordgrim, which is where all the cool stuff is happening these days.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)19:37 No.17687516
    I sait initiates OR economy/spy network

    both are important, so I'm waiting for your suggestions before I decide which one I should support.

    As for hunting lizards etc on moon: we can always do that later. But if we don't investigate nordgim now, we will have to wait 7 years before (if) mysterious ship returns. So we should hurry, and make decisions where invest our money on the way
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)19:38 No.17687537
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    btw, imho First-Borns also sound cool, but then there will be problems with replacing them if/when you run out of first generation marines...

    You hire Jarred for 50W, 79 left. info in a sec
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)19:41 No.17687585
    Ugh... 100 years to get a 100% spy network is too long. argh... Is it possible to bribe Admech officials to get that info?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)19:42 No.17687600
    >Hunting Fields turn us into ruthless heretics

    Is that for hunting PEOPLE? Sweet Emperor, why is that even an option?
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)19:43 No.17687614
    Sorry, Shieldbreaker factories cost 50W and Mercenary guild costs just 25W
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)19:43 No.17687619
    The officials are the ones behind this treachery for all we know.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)19:44 No.17687629
    Just about to say that. Lets keep Strenguard for now.

    I'd say shield breaker man. and/or hunting fields for the 2nd gen. Then we move on to Nordgrim.

    I figure its only convicts and other lecherous bastards. Guys, being a LITTLE ruthless is good for our rep.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)19:46 No.17687657
    Why would we lost a STC if we implement them, can't we just make copies?

    My Choices
    Shadow HQ, Industryx2
    >> The Celt !BzcOsK03.w 01/26/12(Thu)19:48 No.17687687

    I agree with this: we're a military force, not an economic one. Besides, it sets a bad trend: Say we raise the posperity of one or two planets and it all goes good? What's next? Won't all the other planets in the sector expect similar treatment? That could get messy.

    Also, the reason many brothers have spoken for using Nordgrim as a base is because the medieval level society will produce tough, durable marines...raising their society up will go against this. It's the harshest worlds we have to recruit from, not the most advanced.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)19:49 No.17687703
    'first born' is honorary term, not indicator of generation. Salamander's firedrakes (their equivalent of I'st company) is not composed of lizards after all..
    But sternguard is good to. as is oryginal 'honour guard'

    as for Jared - weren't we negotiating contract for him instead of paying him.. 50W is rather large amout of budget.

    we should build hunting fields - nothing better than ability to increase rate of earning xp.
    ancient manufactorum could solve our problem on relying on tainted wargear
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)19:52 No.17687756
    I have to agree with this also.

    Most of the things we put on there would be better either on Nordgrim or the Monastery.

    Everything we have has been mostly saved for those two.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)19:53 No.17687771

    My reasoning: We are a military force, and with the founded of these STC's it seems we have been blessed by the emperor to become an extremely fast mobile strike force. We build the S.breakers here on Salvation (maybe one for industry?) and then a bike manufactorum on Nordgrim. We let modified (for regular humans) bikes trickle down to the population and style it as "faster horses*" (*or equivalent to what they have on the planet) we still get our tough durable marines, except now they have experience with the mobility. This makes a dangerous combination brothers.

    Guess thats 2 in for the hunting fields?
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)19:56 No.17687822
    I disagree with giving the bikes to Nordgrim. Recall that technology is considered "occult" on Nordgrim. Even just the bikes alone would likely cause considerable turmoil and upheaval, and likely piss off the Emperor of Nordgrim.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)19:58 No.17687859
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    You misunderstood. Shadow HQ is just one of the ways of maintaining a spy network. You can actually 'bribe' spy networks at 1W = 1 %. Then roll d100 on that with modifier to see what you get, if you fail - you lose some of the spy network. But if you want to save your marines on Onyx, you can just send a drop pod with squad of stealth marines, because you can find the exact dungeon where they are being kept.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)19:59 No.17687879
    I understand.

    But these aren't guns or armed bikes for that matter. Just faster transport, and im sure if we 'gift' the emperor of this world with his own 'horse-less' carriage he will be accepting.

    If that's the case I say we build it.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:00 No.17687901
    well that shoots me down. Never mind motorcycle knights!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)20:03 No.17687936
    I figured Onyx would have a big fleet. Getting into orbit to drop stealth pods would be...tricky, not to mention getting them out.
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)20:03 No.17687949
    No, I recall from a few sessions ago that they just had a cruiser or two and a few escorts.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)20:04 No.17687953

    We can probably convince them that bikes are not occult because they run off of fuel and fire. Its very different with machine spirits.

    We can still do it. We just have to increase the tech level with the tech-guild.

    We should not hunt and kill humans if we do not have to. It goes against our mandate. Surely there are many sorts of animals on Nordgrim that we could hunt.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)20:05 No.17687980
    if I remember correctly onyx fleet was composed of cruiser and 6 ecort ships - planetary defences are bigger problem there
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)20:08 No.17688021
    Wasn't that just the fleet they send to mediate between us and Tyr? They also have that dead cruiser we sold them years ago. I'm guessing their fleet consists of at least 3 cruisers and around 10 escorts by now.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)20:08 No.17688022
    And supposed titans...
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)20:09 No.17688025
    My response is that fights are not always to be found or wise. How ever inverted money is safer if you dislike marines investing (in our own holdings) then we should charter some one else to do it. A strong industry can support a strong military, and I want to ensure that we a strong industry to call upon.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)20:09 No.17688028

    >We should not hunt and kill humans if we do not have to

    Agreed. Could that Hunting Field be repurposed into a ritual arena instead? Regular human aspirants could fight each other for the right to challenge a Marine in unarmed combat. Of course, no killing. This would probably give a lower rate of xp gain, but would increase standing.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:09 No.17688029
    Increasing tech levels isn't a good idea. Lets let badass feudal age dogs lie.

    Brother Marius spending proposal:
    Salvation: 20 for Bike manufactorum
    50 for S. Breaker Manufactorum
    25 for Shadow HQ.
    TOTAL: 95w
    The faster we start pumping out the big guns the faster we can start doing what we've been sent here to do: Kick ass and take names.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:12 No.17688071
    "fights are not always to be found or wise" ?! Maybe you should of left with the Eldar their man...
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)20:15 No.17688115
    We'll need bigger guns than that. But its still probably a good idea.

    But can we please keep the enhanced manufactorum untill we get something REALLY worth making. Like predators, land raiders, titans or ships... or really good wargear.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)20:17 No.17688134
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    Unfortunately, these bikes are space marine sized and designed specifically for combat. you can spread technology by building tech guilds on Nordgrim, they will slowly bring all kinds of widely available STC's to create progress.

    1 Tech guild is stable progress
    2 = minor problems
    3 = serious problems
    4+ = civil war anyone?

    Copying STC is possible, but is a very hard thing to do and costs a shitload of money. Onyx would copy Common STCs for 25W, Rare for 50W and Legendary for 100W, ofcourse with a right to take one copy for themselves. copying STC machine-spirit takes years work, because these are very sophisticated technologies, not a spoon factory.
    to hell with it, do it! just buy some bikes on Heidrun and ship them to Nordgrim, you will get motor-bike knights in a few years without a significant change in tech level.
    Smaller than yours, but yes, formidable. Indeed, you would have to have a good plan how to get in there.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:17 No.17688142
    of course, but i don't think were going to be pumping out baneblades anytime soon are we?...please?

    seconded on keeping the enhanced man. for awhile longer
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:19 No.17688169
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    AWESOME. I'm all for motor knights then!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)20:22 No.17688212
    So that insolent criminal did survive...

    Where is Nixonia again? We should crush this little upstart "army" before it becomes a true threat.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)20:24 No.17688238
    Fucking Onyx, man. Those damn machine worshipping, double crossing, marine capturing, metal men. I vote we go diplomatically first, and ask tehm for our marines back. Something along the lines of, "The jigs up. We know you had a hand in the loss of our Third Company. Time to give them back."- Said with the entire fleet on their doorstep

    Who's for this?

    We could look into finding some allies, maybe the Silent Guardians. They took marines captive, and that is a high offense to say the least.

    Maybe report that to the Terra next time we report in.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)20:26 No.17688268
    Pardon me. I ment that it's not alway smart to fight the people you know. Any way we are alway short for cash. Now we can not affect how much lootable wealth the people we fight have, but we can choose to invest to get money later.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)20:26 No.17688269
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    nixonia is marked as a separatist world - red/black

    X - trade vessels encounter
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)20:30 No.17688318
    She just mad cuz no ones tapping her blind ass.

    But Seriously, seems like we have three options here:

    A) Attack those dumb ass orks
    B) Attack that Asshole rogue trader
    C) Attack those Sneaky ass AdMech guys on Onyx

    My votes for the rogue trader, while diplomatically asking for our marines back from Onyx. Optimistically, Onyx is just trying to turn them into techmarines for the glory of the Ommnisiah.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)20:31 No.17688328
    if we can't win with them in open battle we can always start to making their ships dissappear one by one - until they realise, that keeping or brothers captive is going to cost them more then they tought. We don't need to sign our name on attackd on onyx, as they keep quiet about kidnaping our brothers and when they will become weak we will strike them.
    We need to make a move.

    seconding that too
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:32 No.17688340
    That bastard. I say we put a bounty on his Moriarty's head? 10-20 W. maybe one of those cold blooded asshats will stab him in the back for some quick cash? Also im telling you: getting some ruthless rep will make people think twice about siding with this upstart.

    awwww crap. I fell as though ALL of attention should be placed to this. now. we all know the difficulty of dislodging a WAAAGH from a planet once its taken route...although, MAYBE we can aim this WAAGH toward moriarty? or those bastards who took our brothers? thoughts?

    No offense meant, brother.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)20:33 No.17688355
    We should send Vorishlov to the sisters to be purified. Ten partenrs is not an achivment, its a serious mental problem.

    We must head off the orks, and blow them apart in space.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)20:34 No.17688370
    that's what we need!
    what do you thing about directing orc waaagh! at one of our enemies? strike at orcs couple of times to lure them to moriarty or onyx?
    and then clear whats left?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)20:35 No.17688378
    Ohhoho, lovely positioning. We can kill two birds with one stone. We need to stop the Orks before they reach Heidrun/Tyr, and a world of traitors housing our oldest enemy seems a decent place to do it.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:36 No.17688379
    terrible spelling is terrible.

    Vorishlov should be watched. closely for any taint. Seconded on engaging orks in space.

    We must send scouting parties to understand the extent of this threat.
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)20:36 No.17688380
    I think he should go to the sisters, but manipulate him into doing it. Call him into our office and tell him that there are some whispers among the men about his sex life, tell him they're losing confidence in our right to command. Politely suggest he could go to the sisters to meditate, but say it would all just be for show.

    Of course, if he is changed by his time with the sisters, who are we to complain?
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)20:37 No.17688395
    We're in a tough situation. If we don't take out the Orks they'll invade a planet and it'll be really hard to get them out. But if we don't deal with Moriarty we'll probably get stabbed in the back while dealing with the orks.

    Regardless what we do, we need to deal with this right away. I'm against stopping on the sisters world just for the Admiral. We have more important things to do.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:37 No.17688398
    Yes. this.

    ...although, is it a good idea to lose are fleet command right before our (maybe?) engagement with orks?
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)20:38 No.17688410
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    nixonia info
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)20:40 No.17688432
    Well, we can destroy the waaagh's fleet over Nixonia, while they fight Moriarty's fleet (which we will also destroy). After that, we liberate the fuck out of it. From the orks (if any land) and the seperatists.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)20:40 No.17688435
    I agree. Send Voroshilav to the sisters (I don't care how it happens) then show the Orks what it means to cross the might of the Imperium.
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)20:40 No.17688436
    It should definitely wait until after the orks are dealt with.

    ...Any thoughts on just redirecting the WAAAAGH to attack the planet?
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)20:41 No.17688449
    Seconded. Fire on the orks, then lead them to Nixonia. After the Orks are busy with the Black Guild, we come in and finish the stragglers.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:41 No.17688456
    Send the orks at it!

    Lets have a group of escorts run from the waagh and lead it to nixonia. Hows that sound?
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)20:41 No.17688458
    "Nixonia will be a tough nut to crack. Why not have those dumb-as-rocks Orks crack ti for us? Rocks are hard, and great for breaking shells. Let's bait them towards this den of scum and villainy."
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)20:41 No.17688462

    ... Rogue Traders are going to group up and attack LOYAL SPACE MARINES!?
    Send this information to the SoBs on Mostar, as this is heresy. Ask if they'll call for an Inquisitor's attention to such a worrying event.

    The sisters should also join us in calling for Imperial Navy and Imperial Guard support in dealing with this orc Waaaagh. Space marines can't stop orks on their own.
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)20:44 No.17688497
    That sounds like a decent enough backup plan. Tell the Sisters of Battle about it, but don't have them send the troops in until we've tried our redirection tactic.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)20:46 No.17688529
    No, we will face them honerably in battle. We have second generation marines to test.

    We must destroy them in space without encouraging a foothold on ANY planet. However lamenta V allready has orks. So it wouldnt matter much if they were forced to land there.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:47 No.17688535
    seconded. After the fight we can see about cleaning up Nixonia with support from the sisters, Salvation IG's regiments and Tyr's.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)20:48 No.17688557
    The sisters of battle in this sub-sector aren't strong. they don't even have a ship. They are essentially a tucked away little nunnery.
    Honor isn't a question here. We cannot take Nixonia ourselves; it has a decent fleet of its own, plus backing of many pirates in the area, and a Rogue Trader fleet.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)20:51 No.17688587
    I don't think it;s a good idea.
    If we do that we will face inevitable loses. And then we will have to deal with moriarty and onyx.

    Redirecting orc fleet will weaken 2 of 3 our enemies, minimalise our loses, and allow us to claim whats left as ours.
    With enough luck we will have opportunity to take over black guild planet, maybe some of its fleet - and then we could face onyx on our own terms without spending more time and money to prepare for confrontation
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)20:52 No.17688611
    A question on this quest/40kverse, sir.

    Are Space Marine ships still designed to be planetary bombardment and assault ships (have no lance batteries) vs the Imperial Navy's ship-to-ship specialization (many ships have lance batteries)?
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)20:53 No.17688618
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    you are a natural at this, you know?
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)20:56 No.17688663
    sm ships are designed to be most effective in planetary invasions. But theirs armament and sielding is so strong that there are very effective in naval engegaments. Especially considering sm abilities in boarding actions.
    Sm ships are additionally very fast and manouvreable in comparision to ships of imperial navy
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)20:58 No.17688694
    I laughed at the filename

    Thanks man. I'd love to roleplay more often, even IRL, but sadly I have no FLGS in my area to swing by. I'm just about to finish senior year of high school, so hopefully the college I go to will have some people into the hobby.

    I don't like rolling, I feel like I'm cursed.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)20:58 No.17688698
    Lamenta has no Orks, as far as you know. However open battle would indeed be a great expirience and loot + reputation would be a lot greater.
    It seems my knowledge failed me and this fact is completely new to me, dear anon. I view that space marine ships have a decent capability both for space battles and for landings/orbital bombardment, but ofcourse specialisation always means a lot.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)20:59 No.17688700
    If you want take battle fleet gothic into account SM ships aren't very good at long range fighting but there up close batteries are the best in the game.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)21:02 No.17688742
    If you would prefer more space-oriented space marine Chapter, i could create more specialisation/modification options for the fleet, etc. Never be silent about what is interesting for you, people, and I will try to make it happen. and i still need that roll.
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)21:03 No.17688756
    rolled 58 = 58

    If the dice do not favor me, know that I am sorry.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:05 No.17688774
    Rolling, no idea what ships would be best for this task though.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)21:05 No.17688775
    Well I would be all for a space focused chapter.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:05 No.17688785
    rolled 31 = 31

    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)21:06 No.17688792
    rolled 22 = 22

    I would like Angelus Novus to make name for itself in this battle and earn place in chapter history
    may the Emeror be gracious
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:07 No.17688807
    > If you want take battle fleet gothic into account SM ships aren't very good at long range fighting but there up close batteries are the best in the game.


    basically, 40k fluff has it so that SM ships(all but 1, last i checked) don't have lance batteries, in an effort to hamper any attempts at a second Horus Heresy. SM ships are still -very- deadly in space battles, but they lack range.
    I believe the only SM ship, a tiny escort, with a lance has it mounted ventrally, like a Nova Cannon is mounted on larger IN ships.

    this makes any standard Imperial Navy ships we get fairly important, as they give us access to lance batteries and possibly nova cannons.

    knowledge is power brothers, use it well.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)21:12 No.17688886
    I personally like the idea of a space specialized chapter with a monastery far away from the front.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)21:14 No.17688936
    rolled 4 = 4

    I'm for fleet based chapter from the begining

    as for my choice: as former chaos cruiser angelus novus should be fast and have strong armament and any ork would like to get his hands on such a price, so its ideal bait. And I really like its name and history so far
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)21:17 No.17688967
    i dunno guys. mountainous lizard filled moon is both highly defensible and pretty awesome. Cheaper too, as we can expand our facilities much better that way.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)21:19 No.17689002
    That's my point. The planet with the lizards is far away. We can have the benefits of being monastery based by building a small one on Norgrim, away from the prying eyes of those damn robot guys, while still remaining mostly fleet based. We can also try to keep it secret too.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)21:20 No.17689017
    >Are Space Marine ships still designed to be planetary bombardment and assault ships (have no lance batteries)

    I assumed that our capital ship the 'eternity' has lance batteries because it is larger and houses the chapter.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)21:22 No.17689038
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    some thoughts on chapter doctrine, fill in and/or expand.

    to put it blunty:
    space=offensive,little development, fast, easy to destroy
    monastery=area control, lots of development, shorter reach
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:23 No.17689057

    I'd assumed it was simply an ancient battle barge, since they can carry and quickly deploy several companies worth of stuff at once.
    >> O'Grady 01/26/12(Thu)21:34 No.17689192
    Battle Cry: ON THIS DAY WE RISE!

    Values: (I assumed this was what we value in our recruits.)
    1. Skill.
    2. Faith.
    3. Intelligence.

    Symbols: A sun rising? Sort of obvious. We also need something to commemorate Brother Mistius. Also an arm, I believe, was something our marines were wearing to provide motivation.

    Specialty: I think long range would be best, at least for our ships. That way we can take out enemies and bombard planets. I think, really, we should be a monastery-based chapter. I don't think we should be fleet-based.

    We should retreat ONLY if the Chapter Master orders it. If the Chapter Master is dead, retreat if we lose 2/3rds of our force.

    Favored Weapon: Bolter, but the hammer-bolter design is the weapon everyone wants. The Sternguard's weapon.

    Greatest Enemy: Chaos Worshipers.

    Best Friend: The Silent marines, can't remember their chapter name.

    Humanity: We should think of humanity as the people we're sworn to protect, and nothing less. I don't think we should be absolutely hostile to mutants and xenos though.

    Cult: Not familiar enough with the lore to offer anything.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)21:36 No.17689224
    So far we know.

    Favoured weapon:
    We quite like accurate bolt weapons.


    I wouldnt fill in the rest untill later.

    Hold the fuck up.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)21:37 No.17689240
    >Symbols: A sun rising? Sort of obvious. We also need something to commemorate Brother Mistius. Also an arm, I believe, was something our marines were wearing to provide motivation.

    That is soo wrong... soo wrong.
    >> The Celt !BzcOsK03.w 01/26/12(Thu)21:41 No.17689280

    Values: Self-reliance, Justice (formed when he didn't allow Tyr to go nuts on H despite us being the ones to bring them there).
    Symbols: A lost/decapitated arm
    Best Friend: The Silent Chapter of Marines (I guess)
    View on Humanity: A flawed species that can rise above it's flaws through faith in the Emperor: We, Space Marines, are the hand of the Emperor who corrects the flaws of Humanity.

    Our battle tactics should reflect our belief in self-reliance: Each battle group should have objectives it's expected to achieve without help from others unless absolutely needed. A burning desire to "get the job down on our own" should be the heart of all Rising Sons.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)21:42 No.17689292
    I disagree with several things:

    The specialization- We should go for close range and boarding to maximize the fact that we are space marines. We can't put our power sword through someones face if we are 3 kilometers away.

    Retreat: When the chapter master says so. If we aren't there, retreat if the battle turns away from our favor. And always, when we retreat, it should be a tactical withdrawal, not a "Fuck this shit, lets GTFO"

    No best friend yet, either SoB, or Silent Guardians. The silent Guardians haven't really done much with us though, they gave us a librarian and we play regicide with them. We spent 4 years with the SoB.

    Cult: We should be like how Space Marines are supposed to be, unaffected by the cult of the Emperor. The space marines are the only people in the Imperium that remember that the Emperor of man didn't want to be worshiped as a god, but to be respected as the pinnacle of humanity, a man perfect in every way a human being could be.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:42 No.17689294
    This Nixonia/WAAAGH situation is going to be merely our fourth battle (third ground engagement if it comes to that). It's too early to lay down things like battle doctrine and specialization when we have so little experience.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)21:42 No.17689303
    Battle Cry: (let it be simple) For Father, For the Emperor
    Values: skill

    speciality: flexible organisation, lightning strikes at vulnerable points and command structure
    retreat: when tacticaly/strategically reasonable
    favourded weapon: any archeotech/relics
    humanity: as younger siblins
    cult: cult of emperor,perfection and humanity
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:43 No.17689313
    retreat: At force commander's discretion. The marine in command of -any- force should know when an objective cannot be completed or when retreat is an inferior option to a last stand.

    humanity: We surrendered it to better protect it.

    cult: The Emperor was a great man, but not a god. (which is a fairly standard SM viewpoint)

    rest: no opinion
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)21:43 No.17689317
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    it does.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:45 No.17689354
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)21:46 No.17689365
    This has to be a clever ruse by Moriarty. No self respecting space marine captain would broad cast on all frequencies. Or drive toward a rok in one cruiser. Hail them.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)21:47 No.17689378
    Correct this brother ship in the error of its ways. Tell him how this psuedo-imperial world is nothing but a scum of villainy and is planning to destroy a Space Marine Chapter for doing its job. Then invite the Captain of the Celestial Lions to have a game of Regicide with you, or something of the like, while we explain our plan and continue with our plan of attack.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)21:50 No.17689412
    the fuckers.

    hail them, try to convince them that nixonia is the best place to engage orcs: it has fleet, resources etc, so we are going there to minimalize loses on imperial side. if he do not want to listen just ignore them - they are going to retreat or be eaten by orcs.
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)21:50 No.17689414
    Damn cowboys...
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:50 No.17689424

    "Captain Theseus, we must speak in private, Brother."

    get that escort and any other forces that show up to retreat with us for now, and fill them in on the situation. Ask advice of the Celestial Lions, if they'll give it.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:52 No.17689448
    >one escort
    >towards a 30ish ships strong waaagh
    >probably didn't know about us being there to bail him out (assuming we do)

    What does the codex say about natural selection? Space Marines aren't this stupid, I'm thinking it's a trap. Moriarty sent this ship to trick us into bashing our forces against the waaagh, weakening us for the coming assault. Basically our plan but with a bluff.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)21:52 No.17689449
    "Celestial Lions? Hmmm, if memory serves they were almost totally destroyed on Armageddon. Nimrod, bring up all known information on the lions"
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)21:53 No.17689465
    Also: if any forces come there to engage orcs, take command of them as space marine chapter master and commanger of biggest organized force pointed against orcs. If our plan to destroy moriarty is going to be exposed, play it as some strategy to lure orcs where there are going to be most wulnerable
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)21:53 No.17689466
    My thoughts exactly.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)21:56 No.17689511

    actually... didn't the remaining Celestial Lions swear a blood oath to die with their fallen brothers on Armageddon after their last apothecary was sniped by "orks"?

    here, changing suggestion to

    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:00 No.17689573
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    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:02 No.17689596
    rolled 13, 93 = 106

    >> noko+dice+2d100 H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)22:02 No.17689609
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)22:03 No.17689610
    Thats ether very good or very bad.
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)22:03 No.17689622
    I agree this is probably a trap by Moriarty. Moriarty has been trying to drum up support by sending out propaganda against us. Apart from getting us to attack the orks, he probably also wants to get us into a conflict with loyalist forces.
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)22:03 No.17689629
    heh.. I fucked it up..
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)22:06 No.17689652

    Bunch of noobs.

    We're called the raising sons because we havent got a name yet and we are a new chapter. Any father-son and sun crap has gotta go. At least to destinguish us from raising-sons samurai marines. All space marines have the emperors DNA, that is not our specialty, nore is it the specialty of any others including the former primarks. I couldnt imagine anything more boring.

    It is becoming more and more apparent that you havent read the previous sessions.
    >> dice+2d100 That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)22:07 No.17689672
    Fuckers are gonna ruin everything. Let's try and help them out.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:07 No.17689675

    damn it

    Brothers, we can not let our cousin marines undertake this mission alone! Support the attack, board the rokk and end the warboss! The Emperor's light will guide us!

    To battle, brothers!
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)22:08 No.17689678
    I feel like this is the kind of situation where that one paladin is just running towards an entire army, and yells, "Come on, we just have to kill the big one in the middle". Everyone he yells it too is just too stunned by his stupidity to move, so he sprints with a grin on his face straight into so many arrow he looks like an old spinster's pin cushion. Someone in the crowd then asks his still stunned comrades, "What the fuck just happened"

    We should maintain our course, and live by the saying "Stupid is as stupid does." Nothing is going to save this Lawful Stupid white knight,
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)22:08 No.17689684
    Are these communications purely audio, or can we see whether he really looks like a Space Marine?
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:09 No.17689693
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    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)22:09 No.17689701
    Pretty sure you can see my name in thread number 2. And what I stated wasn't all "Rising Suns, RAH rah, Katana marines." Chill out man, I agree with you for the most part, but still
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)22:10 No.17689710
    rolled 57, 42, 69 = 168

    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:11 No.17689719
    By doing what? Saying we didn't rush headfirst into an Ork waaagh, saying we didn't sacrifice an entire fleet because of the ill-timed arrival of a single escort ship? Even if his exaggerations and lies reach the ears of our fellow astartes, a quick explanation will set things straight.
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)22:12 No.17689740
    No, I mean he wants to draw loyalist forces to us so all of a sudden it's our word against these morons.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:13 No.17689743
    You can see a proper marine, with some interference, but only for a minute or so, because one of his sergeants brings him helmet and he turns off the channel.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:13 No.17689749
    rolled 11, 22, 92 = 125

    Wow, maybe they really are Astartes. How big is our fleet?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:14 No.17689767
    rolled 43, 27, 65 = 135

    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:20 No.17689849
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    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:22 No.17689880
    Task Force Alpha(-on the move-)
    'Eternity' 100%, SHB
    'Angelus Novus' HC
    Damocles 100%, Chapter HQ
    Morbid 100%
    Momentum 100%
    Torrent 100%
    Militium 100%
    Mastricht 100%
    >> H !!yMG5I1JebQb 01/26/12(Thu)22:22 No.17689885

    >>We're called the raising sons because we havent got a name yet and we are a new chapter
    Our name has nothing to do with our age as a chapter. Do you try to tell us, that chapters we
    know earned their names? No, they earned honor, and reputation by performing noble/heroic deeds,
    and names were given like people are naming their children.

    What trying to relate to chapter name has to do with reading previous threads? Someone don't
    have to read all ths (but I strongly recommend it) to be fine addition to the game.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)22:22 No.17689889
    Should we attack to save them?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:23 No.17689899
    Thank god. Continue luring them towards Nixonia.
    >mfw, the pirate tricked us and Nixonia is a perfectly respectable imperial world.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)22:24 No.17689908
    No choice now!

    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:24 No.17689912
    Dat grammar
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)22:26 No.17689941
    Well, now that that's done, lets continue to bait them to Nixonia. If somehow they kill the Warboss, which I wouldn't be surprised now that they're on the ship, we can radio into them and pick them up after the battle.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:26 No.17689950
    It hurts to admit, but there isn't much we can do to help them in this situation. Even if we did win, and got the surviving Lions onto our ships, the fleet would be heavily damaged by assaulting a force that large, and Moriarty (hell, maybe the admech too) would swoop in to finish us off.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)22:27 No.17689955
    Dems real good pirates if they stole thunder hawks to trick us. You just dont find those in boxes of Khorne flakes you know...
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)22:28 No.17689961
    I say we continue to Nixonia. If they succeed and kill the warboss, the Waagh is dead anyway, and the only way we could help them at this point is to board the big Rok, which is suicide as they've just demonstrated.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:30 No.17689986
    I still think it's a trick, only that son of a bitch sent a distress message to the Celestial Lions instead of sending his own ships. Innocent imperial world? We would've been briefed on its location if that were the case.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:32 No.17690016
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    >> dice+ 3d100 That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)22:35 No.17690042
    Bait them. get us back on track to head them towards Nixonia
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:35 No.17690044
    Attempt contact. Perhaps taken over by Celestial Lions?
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)22:35 No.17690047
    Is directly west still the direction to Nixonia? On the map it seems like it is.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:36 No.17690064
    Guys, stay cool, it's just a game. Enjoy it and let others enjoy it. This is a collective game, so everyone should have something to enjoy, Peace!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:37 No.17690074
    West...odd, the only thing in that direction is Luxoria. Send them a warning.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:38 No.17690078

    ... damn it

    Brothers, we can not let the orks keep the corpses of our cousins.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)22:38 No.17690088
    It doesn't sit right for with me to let our brothers die. Even if it seems like there not our brothers at all...
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)22:39 No.17690095
    No, West leads towards Luxoria and Nordgrim. Luxoria appears to be an enemy world.
    >> Tactical Marine !dZX2eRS9eM 01/26/12(Thu)22:39 No.17690098
    Welp, i'm off to bed.

    I cant afford to turn into an insomniac.

    Dont do anything i wouldnt.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)22:40 No.17690111
    Never mind, I just looked at the map again. We should try baiting them again, after hailing them. If somehow the Lions convinced the entire Waagh to follow their leadership, which is possible if they showed extreme strength, then we need a new plan of action.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:41 No.17690120
    Good night!
    You are right about the direction, but Luxoria is a real hive world, that's why it is bigger and with a slash.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)22:43 No.17690151
    What is it by the way?
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)22:45 No.17690182
    We have to risk some damage in order to get them to turn around. We must bait them back, away from a hiveworld most of all. Billions could die if the Orks attacked a hive.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:48 No.17690220
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    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)22:48 No.17690230
    Just for the record, did we know about Nixonia before we heard about Moriarty from Jared? I'm pretty sure we did, but I wanted to make sure.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)22:50 No.17690257
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    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)22:52 No.17690288
    Instead of getting within firing range to bait, why don't just broadcast the following to all the ships? Would that need a roll?

    "Attention all you stupid greenies! This is the 'Ummies. Who wants a good fight?!?! We 'z got a good fight right over there. We show you all. Lots of enemy krooza's and dakka for the taking. But youz all to stoopid to know where all this iz. We show you, follow us. Maybe'z we help you, if you all nice before the big fight!" (Said ina dumb a voice as possible)
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:56 No.17690341

    I like it!

    add "or you can run like the grots you are!"
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)22:56 No.17690348
    Hell, that's better than what I was writing. I'll third that.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)22:56 No.17690350
    Also say "We will even give you a hint; only puny humans with nothing to loot the way your going" (this should convince the CL to go along with it.)
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)22:57 No.17690354
    I swear if the Inquisition comes down on us for "being infiltrated by the xenos"...
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)22:59 No.17690377
    We can tell them we kept an Ork WAAAGH from crashing into a highly populous Hive-world thus saving billions and lives and preventing further damage to The Emperor's infrastructure.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)23:01 No.17690419
    I was joking, as in the Inquisition might hear this broadcast and think an Ork had somehow become chapter master.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)23:02 No.17690427
    Waaagh stops. It seems to drift in circles...
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)23:03 No.17690444
    Which, truthfully, would be quite the feat for an Ork. Well played to him.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)23:05 No.17690480
    Click off the mic and say "And that brothers, is how you get their attention."

    Broadcast "You too stupid to even follow and 'Ummie? My daddy was right, y'all are a buch of dumb-dumbs. Follow the shiny things that are shooting."

    Fire off a few shots in their general direction to get their attention, then fire up the thrusters towards Nixonia.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)23:06 No.17690504
    >Waaagh stops.
    >a waaagh
    Fucking Celestial Lions really did it.
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)23:09 No.17690550
    See if we can contact them.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)23:09 No.17690555
    "Humies is best! Green is for cowardly grots!"
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)23:11 No.17690596
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    Quick! see if there is any thing we can blood magpie and add to our wargear!
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)23:13 No.17690614
    You are now witnesses to a think that doesn't happen so often. You see how Waaagh starts spinning around and then, one by one, Roks split away from it, dispersing like dust in the wind. Then your scanners detect series of explosions, rocking the Rok. At that moment, vox goes live:
    'Brother, are you still watching?'
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)23:15 No.17690628
    "Indeed Brother. Tell me, just what exactly have we born witness to?"
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)23:15 No.17690631
    "Brothers, make your way out of the Rok pray your suits are sealed and activate your beacons. we are incoming to retrieve you"
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)23:16 No.17690638
    My my, that was quite something. Do you need any assistance?

    On that note we should send out a general warning in case the Orks land on a habited planet.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)23:17 No.17690643
    Holy actual fuck, they did it. They really did it. I don't know about you guys, but I'm almost disapointed. Looks like we have some Xenos to kill. I vote to move in and pick of the ships that come flying out one by one with concentrated fire.

    Also, reply "Brother o' Celestial Lions, we congratulate you on your amazing vistory. We had doubts, but you pulled through. We are going to mop up those that flee, when the Ork fleet is small enough we shall move in for the pick up. Do you have any thunder hawks still alive?"
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)23:18 No.17690661
    "By the Emperor..."

    I take it these suicidal bastards need pickup.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)23:19 No.17690671
    Dishonorable that we held back...Caution tempers only cowards.

    well, LIVING cowards rather then honorable and dead SM....
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)23:19 No.17690672
    'The Warboss is dead, that's one Waaagh less for the greenskins. Thank you Brother for the offer, but we need to finish gathering the artifacts before the Rok blows up, we destabilised it. Two of our Thunderhawks are still in shape to fly, so we will meet you in space in half an hour.'
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)23:22 No.17690710
    "if you can get the third out of the Rokk, we can also recover it"
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)23:23 No.17690723
    Very well bother. I would have you as my guests aboard our ship when you are finish. I am very much interested to hear your tale."

    *clicks Vox off*
    "Commander, let it be stated for the record that The Celestial Lions have won great honour this day, while we did nothing but falter and hesitate. Though we have our pride as a chapter, we still have a great deal to learn. Pray us that we do not fail our duties to the Emperor again."
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)23:29 No.17690797
    How bad would it be for us to have a"misfire" and accidently shoot those two thunder hawks. We would get some heresy, but we would get that anyway, (we stood idly by as Brother Marines flew into battle). Would there be any repercussions amongst the men? I'm fine with this little fiasco being forgotten by history.
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)23:32 No.17690826
    I disagree. I'd prefer to settle this nonsense about Nixonia.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)23:33 No.17690848
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    are you serious? We might as well just start burning 8 pointed stars on our foreheads now.
    >> Nigel !!Yo16BoA2xvX 01/26/12(Thu)23:34 No.17690859
    I gotta go to sleep. Goodnight all.

    Oh, I know it's the definition of heresy.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)23:34 No.17690871
    You can always try it.

    Meanwhile, Theseus contacts you again:
    'It seems it is clear enough now, you can come. Unofortunately taking the third Thunderhawk is impossible, it was looted by the Mekboyz in an hour after we arrived,,,'

    You see two T-Hawks detach from the exploding Rok... What do you do? Will you let your shame live?

    Reputation: Cowards is just behind the corner
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)23:35 No.17690876
    Off topic, but I totally want to have a stamp like that. I can use it to grade papers and give them to students who fail my classes. :D
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)23:35 No.17690883
    haha, thats awesome.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)23:37 No.17690901
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    That is nothing short of treachery, and our inaction is nothing to be ashamed of, lets look at the possible outcomes.

    We engage the waaagh,
    >our ships are horribly damaged up even if we win
    >Moriarty/Onyx/Chaos pop in and finish us off, along with the celestial lions if they survived
    >CL die regardless of win/loss

    We hold back,
    >CL win: the waaagh is dispersed, Moriarty remains strong as ever, but we aren't any weaker
    >CL lose: the waaagh follows us and we proceed with the plan

    They fucked this whole thing up, and now we're going to lose who knows how many brothers putting an end to Moriarty's plot of insurrection.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)23:38 No.17690912
    goodnight, i am also finishing in a few posts.

    Do you take in Celestial Lions?
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)23:39 No.17690926
    I say yes. I want answers and I want to put a stop to their allying with traitors.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)23:40 No.17690930
    We shall bare our shame as it is ours to bare. We faltered in our time of duty. But we shall hold our heads high, and never again show weakness or fear. When next battle arises, we shall be first to head the call Let it never be said that the Rising Sons (or whatever the fuck we're gonna end up calling ourselves) are cowards who flee at the first sight of battle.

    Take them in, and show them all the hospitality we can muster for they are the heroes of this day.
    >> Reason 01/26/12(Thu)23:41 No.17690939
    Sure treat them with the utmost respect.

    Also send ships after the fleeing orks, none shall live.
    >> Marius 01/26/12(Thu)23:43 No.17690973
    seconded x30billion.

    "Brothers, we must track the ork ships, at a distance. But engage if victory is certain, we must wipe this disgrace from our chapters honor."

    Its not for us to know that would happen. Damaged ships can be repaired, marines can be retrained, but our honor is much more difficult to repair.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/12(Thu)23:45 No.17690995
    we welcome the Celestial Lions aboard our HQ ship and honor their fallen and their victory.

    In private to Captain Theseus:

    "Brother, please forgive my hesitation. It is clear that I have much to learn about command and combat against the ork menace. If you could enlighten my brothers and I with your experience, we would be forever in your debt."

    if he hesitates or remains silent, add:
    "I would understand if you thought us unworthy, considering recent events."
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)23:45 No.17691005
    Let's do this.
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)23:47 No.17691031
    You receive Celestial Lions at your ship.

    Thats it for tonight.

    btw, maybe someone can archive this thread? somewhy supt tg doesn't open for me tonight
    >> Skargan !eJl3QEhBK6 01/26/12(Thu)23:48 No.17691046
    will definitely answer this next time, because now I am braindead
    >> Strill 01/26/12(Thu)23:49 No.17691054
    We know that Moriarty intends to build up ships to attack us. We know that Onyx has captured our battle brothers. That means that no, we cannot repair our ships, and no we cannot retrain more marines because we'll have been completely wiped out by Moriarty if we were weak after engaging the Rok.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/26/12(Thu)23:49 No.17691058
    You're not the only one having problems. I'll keep an eye on the thread though, Try and keep it off page 15 till suptg comes back online.
    >> mchl !wZgdzXoycg 01/26/12(Thu)23:58 No.17691187
    Here's a bump.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)00:15 No.17691381
    i lost thread for a moment. thanks guys for keeping an eye on it, because it's 5 am and i must sleep. thanks for playing and goodnight. let's hope for less lawful stupid and more heroics next session.
    >> That guy from /m/ 01/27/12(Fri)00:55 No.17691848
    Bump until we can archive it.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)01:14 No.17692027
    It's back up!
    >> Strill 01/27/12(Fri)01:36 No.17692248

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