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    69 KB Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:29 No.17476855  
    From the wiki article on mind flayers:

    >Illithids typically communicate through psychic means. They project thoughts and feelings to each other in a way non-illithids can scarcely comprehend. When they do feel the need to write, they do so in "qualith." Instead of typical alphabet-based writing, illithids write in qualith by making marks consisting of four broken lines. They use each tentacle to feel the breaks in the lines, making it basically similar to braille. However, qualith is extremely complex, as each line modifies the preceding lines through explaining abstract concepts associated with the above words in ways no human can understand; only by understanding all four lines simultaneously can the meaning be understood properly.

    Does this mean a Mind Flayer can be confused by a little kid's scribbles?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:36 No.17476923
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    No, they understand what the kids actually mean. They also prefer modern art, and other less "clear" art forms as they can truly appreciate them in ways our humanity cannot comprehend.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:39 No.17476949
    We need some Hipster Mind Flayer drawfaggotry up in this thread right now.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:39 No.17476953
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    >less clear art forms
    >"Yeah, I'm into more... obscure types of squiggles. You wouldn't understand, you dumb surface dweller. Now let me eat your brain."

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    >They also prefer modern art

    So they are the pretentious art snobs of the Underdark?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:44 No.17476998
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    We aren't pretentious, man! You just can't appreciate these deep lines the way we can. It's far too much for your Mind. Here. Let me take it for you.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:45 No.17477003

    "Slave, I know that you cannot possibly appreciate this piece, but I will tell you of it anyway. This was made two years ago by a young half-elf in Zurikstead; it is an expression of his pain and anguish at being an outcast half-elf artist, and is frankly genius in how much torment leaks through every inch of it. You cannot appreciate the subtlety running through its squiggles, but I can."

    "I can, because I ate him."

    "He was delicious."
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:47 No.17477026
    >this picture
    >It made my fucking day
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:54 No.17477081
    Actually that would be beholders.

    "No, the reason you can't comprehend what you are looking at, surface dweller, is because you have TWO eyes located NEXT to one another, that can only see HALF of the object that you're lookign at as opposed to 2/3rd of it from multiple angles."


    "Bloody art critics."
    >> Ragnasal !!69YZM9mjEHH 01/09/12(Mon)13:56 No.17477094
    ... Why do I love this thread so much already?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:56 No.17477102
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    Stat me, chav.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)13:59 No.17477124
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    >Does this mean a Mind Flayer can be confused by a little kid's scribbles?

    Quite the opposite, really. I'd think a mindflayer would understand them better than any human, save for the human child him or herself. Look at this bit from what you quoted:

    >They project thoughts and feelings to each other in a way non-illithids can scarcely comprehend

    Why do you figure that is? Why couldn't a psion grasp how Illithids communicate as easily as one of them? The answer is incredibly simple, really.

    Thought process.

    See, it should go without saying that Illithids don't think the way people do. They're about as alien as they come, hailing from another plane of existence and having senses humans couldn't even dream of. The way adult Illithids contextualize everything is entirely different from the way an adult human would.

    Notice how I said "adult?" That's important.

    See, by the time we reach adulthood, we've settled down into our perception of reality, grown accustomed to our senses and what they tell us. A child that grows up blind has a much easier time of it than a recently-blinded adult, and not just because he's had more time to deal with it. It's because, during his development, his ability to understand his world didn't hinge on being able to see, and as such the littler things like tying his shoes blinded are much easier to him.

    If children of any race are a mostly-blank slate, it would make sense that human babies and recently-hatched Illithid larvae (assuming the latter is truly sentient) would have the closest mental states, that would only become increasingly more divergent as their lives progressed.

    Because of this, the younger the child is, the easier it'd be for a mind flayer to understand. Just like for human adventurers, who can clearly and plainly understand the Illithid larvae's seemingly mindless drive to feed.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:05 No.17477184
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    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:11 No.17477244
    >Skull looking up her skirt
    >> OP 01/09/12(Mon)14:13 No.17477260

    >picture of mind flayer hooker
    >insightful commentary
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:16 No.17477287
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    It was a bad picture choice.

    The only mindflayer pics I have on my computer are shit like this, for some reason.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:17 No.17477292
    ...that's amazing

    So extrapolating on this, do Mind Flayers have the ability to pick up on subtext and shit in literary works as well as art? What about stuff like pottery?

    And why did they develop this kind of weird-as-fuck ability and language if they're all telepathic and all speak Undercommon? Code makes no sense, what Mind Flayer would think he'd get stolen from; illithids are all super-fucking-arrogant, right?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:18 No.17477298
    It's cool, Illithid tits turn me on a hell of a lot too.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:18 No.17477306
    Fuck it, might as well ask.

    Where do illithid tadpoles come from exactly? Do they vomit them out or is there a cloaca? This might be important because a player has declared an interest in shoving his (spiked) mace into the "tadhole" of an illithid that ate his friend.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:18 No.17477307
    I think we all know the reason.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:19 No.17477313
    ......clap...clap...clap clap clap clapclapclap
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:22 No.17477348
    does this mean they communicate through art too? i know about the telepathic thing, but what if they send art to each other in the same way that humans send a letter rather than calling?

    time for some romantic mind flayer writefaggotry.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:24 No.17477367
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    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:27 No.17477387
    Any more pictures of mindflayers with tits?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:27 No.17477394

    >Mind Flayer/Beholder hipster wars

    Thank you, new game story hook.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:29 No.17477410
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    >do Mind Flayers have the ability to pick up on subtext and shit in literary works as well as art

    You know how their art looks crazy and wrong to human adventurers? Our art likely looks profane or plebeian to their eyes. We paint only with what we can see; to them, that's ignoring some of the most important senses, and is downright ignorant. Literature might have more merit because of the mind's eye, but it'd still lack that inherent psychic residue so much of their artifice gives off, and therefore look childish or incomplete to them. The same for pottery, having a tactile element.

    >And why did they develop this kind of weird-as-fuck ability and language if they're all telepathic and all speak Undercommon

    I would imagine that stock-standard telepathy and knowledge of undercommon really only came about after the whole empathic communication thing. If I had to guess, I would put forward that telepathy and undercommon were either the result of studying the lesser races and attempting to mindsculpt them more efficently, like how a smith uses tongs and a hammer to beat iron in addition to the raw power of the forge, or that they learned undercommon out of sheer necessity of trading with the other denizens of the underdark. I'd put money on the first one, though.

    >does this mean they communicate through art too

    When's the last time a human adventurer saw something mindflayers made and got this horrible, prickling sensation on their brain that they felt was completely wrong? That's almost every single time a human sees things that a mindflayer makes. I would posit that this is because of the human mind trying to interpret something it simply doesn't have a sense for.

    So, to answer your question, yes. To extrapolate, what must a mindflayer nautilus be like to one of them, then? It would be a concert of artifice and psychic resonance conducted by an elder brain, seeing them safely through the cosmos.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:31 No.17477436
    They actively meddle in surface politics, not for fun or evil's sake, but to make sure their future empire doesn't collapse because of stupid bullshit. The fact that they even acknowledge that they're capable of stupid bullshit proves that they aren't arrogant (at least not to a fault). As for having a written system that most people can't read? Why WOULDN'T they want something like that? Elder brains can and do die to the githzerai/githyanki/adventurers so they aren't reliable forms of information storage, nor are they easily hidden or passed on to future illithids. And qualith acting as code is just a side benefit of being a telepathic race, I doubt they even knew undercommon before they time traveled.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:33 No.17477454
    Next campaign, we play hide-the-elder-brain. All Illithid campaign?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:33 No.17477461
    From Illithid Biology on Wikipedia (seriously):

    >Illithids are hermaphroditic creatures who each spawn a mass of larvae twice in their life. The larvae resemble miniature illithid heads or four-tentacled tadpoles. Larvae are left to develop in the pool of the Elder Brain. The ones that survive after 10 years are inserted into the brain of a sapient creature. Hosts are determined in a very specific manner. Hosts generally are humanoid creatures that are between 5 feet 4 inches and 6 feet 2 inches. The most desirable of races for hosts are Human, Drow, Elves, Githzerai, Githyanki, Grimlock, Gnoll, Goblinoid, and Orc. Upon being implanted, the larva then grows and consumes the host's brain, absorbing the host's physical form entirely and becoming sapient itself, a mature (but still young) Illithid. This process is called ceremorphosis. Illithids often experiment with non-humanoid hosts, but ceremorphosis involving other creatures usually fails, killing both host and larva.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:35 No.17477499
    I know that part, I'm asking *where* they come from. As in which hole.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:37 No.17477510
    you left out that part where the elder brain munches on the larvae
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:40 No.17477550
    Actually this is fairly accurate. Mindflayers are a hermaphroditic and spawn a batch of eggs that hatch into tadpoles on occasion, usually three or four times during their lives unless caused to do so more or less often by the elder brain.

    As a result, sexualization is utterly absent in their art. There isn't any purpose or drive in them for it, and they do not gain any sort of pleasure from what another being might term 'sensual' or 'erotic'.

    The same for beholders, actually, which makes it even more likely that their art - derived from senses that humans are essentially crippled in - actually makes more sense to each other than it does to anyone else. While the illithidae cannot perceive the physical properties or scales of the beholder sculpture or painting, they can percieve the intensity of the beholder's passions and mad desire to create within it. Likewise, being creatures of higher intellect and no small amount of insanity, and perceiving things with eyes designed to emit as well as absorb radiations beyond the scale of most mortal beings, see things in mind flayer art that normal creatures can't even imagine.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:41 No.17477563
    >implying people don't reply with art
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:45 No.17477619
    What about other race art styles? Like Gnolls and Yuan-Ti? What about Githzerai and Githyanki, for that matter?

    This shit is getting epic.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:46 No.17477627
    >Does this mean a Mind Flayer can be confused by a little kid's scribbles?

    In the manner that an adult human can, yes.

    Children don't use four-pronged styluses that use psychic energy to make marks on a paper in straight lines.
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    >implying a beholder would even bother to talk to a normalfag

    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:51 No.17477686
    Actually, there is a thread in the archives about various other species art styles. Nagas create landscapes in small scale using their bodies, grimlocks and morlocks use a metal stylus to make etchings on skullbones like scrimshaw. Gnolls don't have their own art forms, per se - they collect slaves who do create art and use them as bartering materials to other gnolls ("I'll have my weaver make your dancer a set of silks if you let me borrow the talents of your letherworker.")
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:54 No.17477715
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    I imagine it looks something like this.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:56 No.17477729

    Clearly that is a Githzerai work, you philistine.

    Look at how he's kicking, he's obviously a monk.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)14:58 No.17477751
    Nonsense, you uncultured swine. Githzerai are taller than that.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:03 No.17477807
    I call foul

    It's clearly a Mind Flayer propaganda piece. Look at how elegant those squiggles are.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:05 No.17477829
    Oh shit


    Mind Flayer version of Grand Admiral Thrawn

    Conquers nations and knows their strategies inside-out by kidnapping their most famous artists and musicians and forcing them to paint/play for him

    Lair like a museum but full of glass cages for these overworked artists, some of them dead in the cages from pure stress
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:05 No.17477840
    This thread makes me so happy.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:08 No.17477871
    >Mind flayers understand and can speak Undercommon, when verbal communication is necessary.

    How do they do this and what does it sound like? They don't have a mouth or even a jaw, they have a lamprey-like hole.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:10 No.17477889
    I like to pretend they burble.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:11 No.17477900

    This is the most beautiful piece of art I have ever laid my tentacles on! The elegance, the hidden layers of meaning, it brings tears to my eyes!
    >> Alpharius 01/09/12(Mon)15:11 No.17477901
    Well, they'd still have vocal chords, given that they metamorphized from humanoid species, even though they have no lower jaws. I imagine it'd sound a bit like a guy who lost his lower jaw to cancer trying to talk: wet, slurred, and unpleasant.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:14 No.17477938
    So would the Adversary be a dyslexic mind flayer, since his mind is still that of the host and not the mind flayer itself?
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    Wait. So, the idea of a lone virtuous mindflayer is actually more believable than the lone virtuous drow?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:18 No.17477993
    Anything is believable. Few things are plausible.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:20 No.17478005

    No, it's not really a mind flayer, it's a person who had TOO MUCH HIGH WILLPOWER MAN to be consumed by the tadpole.

    An actual Mind Flayer is still evil as fuck, it's just there's one legendary dude in the world who will win the contest of wills and keep his NEWLY AWESOMEIZED body

    >mfw it's some random fucking peasant nobody cares about instead of a PC
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:21 No.17478027
    There was a strange mix of herbs involved, as well. So he had a little help from regular ol' nonmagical herbalism.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:22 No.17478033
    >Wakeman, an enterprising trader and scholar of Underdark exotica, allowed himself to be captured by the illithids on one of his expeditions. Through the use of a non-magical mixture of various herbs that Wakeman named laethen, he was able to preserve his consciousness through ceremorphosis, and learned to use his psionic powers to keep from having to consume brains. Thus he worked against the illithid plots from within. The legend of the Adversary was born from his frequent sabotage, though the actual acts were never connected to him. The players' characters in the adventure become his agents in stopping the illithids' plans, as his own movements rely upon secrecy from his "fellow" illithids.

    >For another person to imitate Wakeman's deed would require at least one dose of laethen (the making of which Wakeman kept secret) and to be put under ceremorphosis within a week of consumption. The drug only has a 40% chance of success, and the new illithid must also never consume a brain, for the act destroys the host's personality and replaces it with the illithid personality.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:23 No.17478043
    Give! Giiive!
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:25 No.17478067
    The adversary isn't "truly" an illithid, he used a potion to give himself a 40% chance to retain his mind, and if he ever ate a brain the illithid tadpole's consciousness he kept suppressed would kill him and take over. It's a human wearing a VERY elaborate disguise, not a purple Drizzt.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:30 No.17478116
    >the new illithid must also never consume a brain

    I'm curious about this part, would it apply to someone attending a performance eating? It's the psionic part of the brain that's important after all, not the nutrients.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:33 No.17478145

    How would he not starve, though; Rings of Sustenance couldn't possibly sustain a Mind Flayer's need for psionic power, and you can't exactly sip from a brain

    .../can you/?

    >mfw Mind Flayers drinking Brain out of a wine glass
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:38 No.17478199
    Apparently he survived on ambient psionic energy, like one of those "psi vampires". How he managed to survive in an illithid community without ever being seen eating a brain is beyond me. Just imagine the peer pressure, it'd be like turning down alcohol at a kegger.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:38 No.17478206
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:40 No.17478220
    I would imagine that he would only "eat" privately, and that he would still kill the slave, crack their head open, and chuck out the brain. After all, a person without any food packaging or fruit peels in their trash is mighty-suspicious.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:42 No.17478250
    What if he used an incinerator, and made it real big and threw stuff into it regularly enough to make it look like he was burning things?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:43 No.17478264
    Illithid are probably not expecting psionic illusions from their own kind. Sure the adversary is some sort of Illithid boogeyman to them but their scholars believe that it is physically impossible for a host mind to survive ceremorphosis, Wakeman must have been brilliant. Speaking of which, he's probably been perceived "eating brains" numerous times and nobody stops to question whether it was an illusion or not.

    Also, if I were in charge of the fluff I would say that he uses his psychic power to "digest" other sources of nutrients into something that can sustain his Illithid body and gets the rest of his stamina from drawing on ambient background psionic waves.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:46 No.17478297
    "... But when the other people in the village checked Bob's waste incinerator, all they found were the charred remains of ILLITHID SKULLS!"
    *children gasping*
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:46 No.17478299
    Many other creatures are said to be able to survive off of the psychic energy around them.

    Maybe Wakeman found a way to just drain the energy from a brain instead of merely eating it?

    >Yeah I'm on the brain drain diet. I don't eat the brains like some savage but squeeze the psychic energy out and drink it. With my mind.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:49 No.17478333
    So what did his potion do exactly? Did it suppress the personality of the tadpole and rewire the brain to draw from his memories instead? Making him a Human brain inside the body of a sleeping Illithid? Like some sort of slimy flesh-suit?

    Or did it perhaps separate his "soul/mind" from his "brain" temporarily and once the ceremorphosis was complete it wore off and superimposed it back over his Illithid body, kind of like a non-magical version of the supernatural soulforce that animates a Lich corpse? Making him an Illithid possessed by a Human?

    Man, how did this guy do something like becoming an Illithid without MAGIC?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:49 No.17478337
    Okay man I'll eaOH SHIT BRO I forgot my striator in the thrall pens, I'll eat it on the way there...

    Also I can't help but think the illithid's telepathic conversations are in greentext.

    >walk into brainstop
    >the cashier is a drow
    >she cracks her whip at me
    >grey matter falls out of my pockets
    >she starts accusing me of stalking her four centuries before she was born
    >the cashier is a beholder with polymorph eyebeams
    >burst into treats
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:50 No.17478346

    Apperantly with herbs, luck and willpower.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:50 No.17478350

    It was hotter when it was a drow.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:53 No.17478382
    >illithid telepathy is psychic greentext

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    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:56 No.17478414
    Wakeman didn't have to deal with the illithid's paranoia of the adversary at first, because he's the CAUSE of it. Fun fact: residual habits (like tapping your foot or humming) from the host body are relatively common among the illithids, they just go to great lengths to hide these habits because they're scared shitless of being lynched thanks to the adversary "myth".
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    >burst into treats
    took me a moment to get. Well played sir.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)15:59 No.17478458
    A letter to a mind flayer from his greatest foe, a Paladin sworn to slay their kind.

    "It has come to pass that I must rely on uncouth means in order to assassinate you. I sent this letter knowing that you would read it, but made sure that you were not close enough to read my mind and find out that these four qualith lines have been written using a concentrated, odorless poison. The first lethal dose is at 'uncouth'. I am willing to accept my punishment for using poisons against you, but I feel your end is more important than my title."
    >> The Harlequin Rose 01/09/12(Mon)16:00 No.17478469

    I always thought it would be similar, but always in fours. The average illithid can fully focus on four thoughts at once, in addition to the background brain chatter we have.

    >Four drow slavers before me, lightly armed save for their orc guards.
    >Maaz'dull is next to me, his hungry thoughts is radiating, making me hungrier. He still owes me several scrolls he borrowed.
    >Should it turn hostile, mind control the body guards to attack the slavers, non fatally to allow us to eat their brains.
    >My Duegar slave is getting sick, should make a good male tonight. Inquire drow about duegars.
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    >Well fucking played
    >> Magus O'Grady 01/09/12(Mon)16:02 No.17478491
    I remember a book in 2e that said that undead are functionally invisible to the Illithids. No body heat, and no mental emanations. The Illithiad, I think the book was called. Mind flayers used to crap themselves and panic at even a hint of necromancy in an area. Especially since a Wight, Shadow, of Vampire in the slave pens can infect the whole stock and turn formerly obedient thralls into invisible killing machines.

    >You're now imagining an entire campaign based on vampire githzerai trying desperately to infiltrate mind flayer communities to topple them.
    >> Ragnasal !!69YZM9mjEHH 01/09/12(Mon)16:04 No.17478503
    I need to screencap this but I forgot how.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:04 No.17478514
    Printscreen button on the keyboard, paste into paint, crop as needed, save.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:07 No.17478546
    >Alhoons (also called illithiliches) are illithids that have grown powerful enough in magic to become liches. Alhoons are generally pariahs in illithid society because they go against most illithids' eventual goal; to merge with the Elder Brain, both physically and psionically. Alhoons, on the other hand, are more concerned with their own personal survival. When discovered near illithid communities Alhoons are mercilessly hunted down
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:09 No.17478564
    In theory, couldn't the writing instruments of the illithid plus a bit of artificy or steampunk involving a very long roll of paper be used to make a machine that can record dreams and make them visual?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:10 No.17478576

    >Not being a Ulitharid

    >Have two extra tentacles

    >Twice as long as the others

    >Superior in everyway

    >Second only to the elder brain
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:10 No.17478579
    Oh fuck yes.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:10 No.17478582
    They're only "invisible" to the elder brain, and from behind walls. Their eyes can perceive them, and they can smash them to redeath with their tentacles, it's just that undead are immune to their primary form of attack, and their brains can't be eaten. It's an unsettling fear, but not crippling.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:11 No.17478589
    >Alhoons are generally pariahs in illithid society
    Say no more.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:12 No.17478598
    What if Illithids paint and write with, like, utensils made of bone and flesh?

    Maybe they wrap parts of the nervous systems around a bone and use that to pen their qualith, and in doing so can channel their emotions and desires into whatever it is they're writing?

    ...shit, what if ALL illithid furniture is made out of people?

    >Illithid wakes up to get coffee
    >walks over to a dude pinned on the wall with a coffee machine where his heart used to be
    >slices open his arm and gets himself a steaming cuppa

    Now that's some adventurer wtfery right there. Players expecting to find treasure find horrible tortures instead.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:12 No.17478611
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    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:13 No.17478626
    So what happens when an Ulitharid becomes an Alhoon? Ulithahoon or Alitharid?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:15 No.17478643
    Pretty sure it's still an Alhoon.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:15 No.17478658
    Ulitharoon sounds better.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:15 No.17478661
    >implying I don't loot the coffeemachine

    my paladin has been looking for a good coffee machine for THREE HELLISH PLAINS so far, and this is the first one he's found that can actually put out a good one. hell YES he is taking it.

    and no, it's not a "sin" or "falling", this guy is obviously getting relocated to a MUCH better kitchen.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:16 No.17478667
    I don't think the universe can take that much arrogance in one being.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:16 No.17478668

    An ancient Mind Flayer word that means "fallen Ulitharid".

    Actually I think it'd be Ulihoon for smoothness's sake. Or maybe UltrALhoon.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:19 No.17478697
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    That seems a little too barbaric for the illithids. They might make something like that as way to break their thralls, but for furniture? Here's the stats for the qualith "pen", it's just a magic/psionic item, not a bundle of nerves.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:19 No.17478706
    So an Ulitharid becomes an Alhoon and decides to join the navy. He now thinks himself unstoppable, and rewrites all history books in order to tell better of his greatness. His friends think he has become too arrogant and blames his friend who gave him the idea, and who is famous for his protection spells.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:21 No.17478720
    I am disappointed, both by the idea that an Illithid wouldn't just make people into furniture for shits and giggles, and by how...dull...that magic item description is.

    It's not BARBARIC to make people into furniture!

    It's recycling!
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:22 No.17478745
    Hipsters fucking love recycling
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:24 No.17478771
    >"My home is a hybrid now"
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:27 No.17478804

    >You fucked up.

    I see what you did there.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:27 No.17478805
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    >Qualith is written in four lines which make no sense unless read together
    >4Chan threads often make no sense without context, and even then are quite mad
    >Both tend to have absurd amounts of emotion poured into their writing; whether 4Chan has such in a metaphysical manner is yet to be seen...
    I think we need a new board. /q/, for Qualithchan.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:29 No.17478827
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    Cripes, they need 1500 gp JUST TO WRITE IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE?! They are hipsters. "I used to write in common, but I couldn't make the lines expressive enough so I now use this to make the lines flare and swirl with my thoughts."
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:31 No.17478866
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    >I would posit that this is because of the human mind trying to interpret something it simply doesn't have a sense for.

    You know, this kind of thing never made sense to me. Nuclear radiation is something humans cannot sense either; the most you'll feel is a slight iron taste from the iron atoms ionizing in your tounge. But it doesnt mindfuck you or feel wrong to you. here's been a case of a few children playing with an abandoned X-Ray or radiation treatment machine on a junkyard and carrying the naturally fluorescent material back home. It ended up killing a bunch of people and making another bunch of people sick, but nobody ever felt something 'wrong' until it was too late. We cannot see ultraviolet rays or infrared rays either, those are an everyday part of the natural light spectrum.

    What I'm trying to say is: if you don't have the faculties to understand or sense something it should just fly past you, literally 'go over your head', not mess you up.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:33 No.17478896
    Imagine this:


    With magic.

    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:34 No.17478907
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    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:36 No.17478936
    Do mind flayers have the psychic equivilant of Twitter

    What about Facebook
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:37 No.17478955
    They can probably make the lines with a quill&ink, their claws, or even their skull-dissolving enzymes if they wanted to, the striator is just easymode. Like how we use a keyboard instead of drawing our letters in paint.
    >> Mindeater !b7Y4sK05jw 01/09/12(Mon)16:40 No.17478994
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:42 No.17479018
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    Pah! I for one care not for this modern illithid hipster hogwash, for I am very clearly human!
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:42 No.17479024

    Never thought of it that way. You just blew my mind with that.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:43 No.17479032


    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:45 No.17479066
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    >enjoying Dracolich Era 2
    >enjoying anything made by Fleshware after they were bought by the Ethergaunt Association

    __ II ///
    >> Mindeater !b7Y4sK05jw 01/09/12(Mon)16:46 No.17479081
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:55 No.17479175
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    >using verbal communication
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:56 No.17479181

    Okay so

    Back on topic before we just devolve into hilarious but misleading squiggle jokes

    How DO mind flayers in other communities, well, communicate with each other? Letters seems too mundane for our hipster psychics here.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:56 No.17479186
    Mental greentext.
    Pay attention.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:57 No.17479199
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    >not enjoying Spell Wars: The Old Mindrapublic
    >hating fun




    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:58 No.17479202

    No, I mean

    Mind Flayer telepathy only carries a certain range before it stops

    How do two groups like cross-planet or cross-planar communicate with each other? Like, what /items/ do they use, not how it looks
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)16:59 No.17479215
    Hmm, maybe they have devices that allow them to communicate intra- and inter- planally?

    Dunno, other than magic.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:01 No.17479225
    I'd imagine something like small crystals that carry mental imprints, what with mind flayers being psionic and D&D psionics=CRYSTALS EVERYWHERE
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:05 No.17479272
    they astral project

    in one of the first books about Drizzt, a number of them are doing that and he cuts their silver cords like an asshole
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:08 No.17479287
    Wasn't intercommunity messaging handled entirely by elder brains in their mysterious ways with normal mindflayers not doing that shit short of walking there and having a chat?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:09 No.17479300
    >still using magical stylus instead of a psy-sensitive computer
    ___ _ _______ _
    __ _ ____ __ ___ __
    _ _____________ _
    _________ ____ ___
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:09 No.17479301
    The elder brains can do long distance communication between each other, so it would be more or less EXACTLY like the extranet in mass effect. Any illithid can access it for knowledge or to communicate, but it might have to wait awhile if it wasn't important. A warning of a gith attack would have precedence over a search for brain seasoning for example.

    >> ELDER BRAIN 01/09/12(Mon)17:10 No.17479308
    >*dial-up screech*
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:11 No.17479324
    Elder Brains are computer servers.


    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:12 No.17479335
    If it isn't, we'll make it viable.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:14 No.17479360
    Nope, illithid psionics don't work right with undead, remember? Alhoons and illithid pariahs would probably use it to swap gith porn without the elder brains knowing, like a nercomantic TOR browser.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:16 No.17479385
    .. / .-- --- -. -.. . .-. / .-- .... .- - / - .... . / -- .. -. -.. / ..-. .-.. .- -.-- . .-. ... / .-- --- ..- .-.. -.. / - .... .. -. -.- / .- -... --- ..- - / - .... .. ... / -- . - .... --- -.. / --- ..-. / -.-. --- -- -- ..- -. .. -.-. .- - .. --- -. .-.-.- / .. - / --- -... ...- .. --- ..- ... .-.. -.-- / .... .- ... / . -. --- ..- --. .... / .-.. .. -. . ... .-.-.-
    >> ELDER BRAIN 01/09/12(Mon)17:16 No.17479391
    >I do not know what you mean, Elder Brain. Are you sure it's not... Umm... Okay, I'm lost.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:16 No.17479392
    Psionics and undead aren't compatible - you have to manually convert it first. That's what fucking happens when you have two different industry standards, though. The illithids should get with the program and just convert to the much more popular necromputers, though. Fucking hipsters.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:17 No.17479404
    >illithids are hipsters
    >they use MAC/psionics
    >necromancers have computers
    >they use necrocomputer

    does this mean necromancers are windows?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:18 No.17479413
    Which makes Bill Gates some kind of Archlich. I suspected as much.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:18 No.17479420
    Necrocomputer >fag-ass elder brainputer.
    bring it on fanboy!
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:19 No.17479426
    >> Magus O'Grady 01/09/12(Mon)17:19 No.17479429
    Shit, now I have a mental image of Mind Flayers as using Vicissitude from V:TM. Everything is flesh-based. IIRC in Planescape Torment when you read the history of the Gith, it even says 'the illithid only understand flesh'
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:19 No.17479434
    Does that mean the Apple board of directors are Elder Brains?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:20 No.17479452
    Wait a second.

    >hipsters that pretend to not be hipsters
    >incapable of feeling positive emotions
    >communicate almost exclusively through mental forums

    Jesus Christ, they really are us in the future.
    >> Magus O'Grady 01/09/12(Mon)17:20 No.17479456
    What about Linux?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:20 No.17479458
    What is Steve Jobs then?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:21 No.17479464
    Hey fagisits, Lich here, i'm better than you on everything you do.
    fuck you.
    I'm going to play some games and conquest some countries.
    You know? all of them.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:21 No.17479481
    What ABOUT Linux?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:23 No.17479500
    Wasn't there a thread that discussed wizards making an internet-equivalent on the plane of dreams? That could work.
    >> ELDER BRAIN 01/09/12(Mon)17:23 No.17479502
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:24 No.17479508
    So much win in this thread.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:24 No.17479519
    Liches use Portals OS run on necromputers, devices made of mindless undead used as logic gates kept on faster-time pocket planes accessed via micro-portals connected to I/O devices. Illithids use Brain OS, an OS named for a food, run on sleek but expensive elder brains. Dwarves and gnomes sit in dark basements building clockwork difference engines powered by magic which are only loosely connected by virtue of being based on similar principles.

    Windows, Apple, and Linux.

    >Rotting fromosi
    No, captcha, the pocket plane has Gentle Repose cast on the entire plane.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:28 No.17479547
    The mental image of an obese lich you just sent made me realize something. For a period after becoming a lich, if the wizard was obese before, the fat will stay there until the nearly halted progress of decay gets rid of it. Stuck as a fatty with no way of burning it off besides carving yourself up. Quite a state.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:28 No.17479548
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    Yech! It smells like Illithid in here.

    We're raiding your underwear dimension next tuesday, hope you're prepared.
    >> ELDER BRAIN 01/09/12(Mon)17:30 No.17479585

    >*Warning: The CthBRAIN system requires a GobT&T Fieldworking plan in order to be used. This can not be used with the Gnomesingular or EventHorizon telepathy plans. ALL HAIL THE ELDER BRAIN.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:31 No.17479593
    >implying you're the only one capable of necromancy
    >implying we didn't orchestrate multiple zombie invasions across the kingdoms you intend to conquer
    >implying they didn't train an army of paladins in response to this, which will wipe out your minions
    >implying their high priest isn't going to cast "spark of life" on you when we tell him too
    >implying we aren't going to rip the location of your phylactery from your then-vulnerable mind

    Enjoy your puppets, you glorified puppet.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:31 No.17479606
    Enjoy your brain AIDS YOU FAG!
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:34 No.17479638
    Does spark of life return an undead to life for a time or just remove the immunities? Because I can scarcely think of a more apetizing brain than a liches if it were edible.
    >> Bebedora !EPGr5QCHkk 01/09/12(Mon)17:36 No.17479655
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    We're all puppets. Tee hee hee.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:37 No.17479671
    >Implying you didn't make that up right now while you feing you where an edgy and kewl autor on stardrows.
    >Implying i'm not getting raiding your elder brain right now with mental-AIDS
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:40 No.17479704

    You can't be a Lich,
    those are
    smart and can
    into grammar.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:41 No.17479720
    It doesn't specify, but if it did it would be risk, a lich's mind would be delicious indeed, to the point you might try to savor it. The duration is short enough that the brain might desiccate or even cease to exist while being eaten.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:57 No.17479918

    I wonder if Mind Flayers who learned Necromancy did it explicitly for some kind of Fake Life spell so they could each liches


    Can Alhoons and Ultrahoons eat Lich Brains?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)17:59 No.17479936
    Are you festering cadavers suggesting that the clerics of Ilsensine can't cure you minor migraine of an alliction? Also Ilsensine is described as a tree whose branches reach all minds and knowledge. Is Ilsensine the Illithid internet?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:01 No.17479959
    It's just a 7th level cleric/druid spell, so I'd assume the high level clerics of Illsensine would keep it handy, and maybe even create and distribute magic items capable of casting it across the various illithid settlements.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:09 No.17480066
    This also extends to other undead. Considering many of them have been alive for a great deal of time they likely have rich memories and knowledge of ancient cultures. A necromancer illithid and a cleric of Ilsensine wander into a nercopolis, animate and then consume the greatest minds of a civilization.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:12 No.17480086

    > A necromancer illithid and a cleric of Ilsensine wander into a nercopolis...

    That sounds like the beginning of a bad joke
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:12 No.17480092
    Mind flayers learn necromancy and become alhoons because they want to use good computers.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:13 No.17480095
    >A necromancer illithid and a cleric of Ilsensine wander into a nercopolis

    And then the gith had paladins.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:27 No.17480265

    pretty sure the problem with eating undead brains has less to do with them being rotten food, and more about getting the thoughts and memories of something that's passed beyond the mortal coil one too many times jammed straight into your mental asshole.

    >eat a liche's brain
    >hey wanna know what lies beyond the veil
    >see, there are these old ones and
    shut up
    >...and they kind of do this thing where the entirety of existence is a cacophonous dirge played for a blind idiot god
    >...whose maddened fever dreams form the basic building blocks of reality, and
    >...eternal torment of the unknowable, but it's kind of-
    >......nothing but pawns in a game played ironically by unseen masters of form and thought, and
    >...even if you rebuild your empire they will find you, because
    >...no escape...
    >...kind of funny, if you think about it for a second, and
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:27 No.17480267
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:31 No.17480317
    That kind of crazy knowledge is the territory of alientists and demiliches, not "regular" liches. The worst "backlash" they'd get is hundreds of years worth of fruitless arcane research, a crippling fear of death, and an urge to hide all of their small shiny objects in ridiculously complex ways.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:34 No.17480348
    Do demiliches and liches even HAVE brains anymore? I figured their minds were maintained by magic, and their squishy bits all rotted away.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:36 No.17480376

    BY GOD

    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:37 No.17480405

    maybe the whole "don't eat undead brains" thing is elder brain propaganda, then. i mean, illithids want to live forever. they THINK they can achieve this by merging with the elder brain, but of course what actually happens is that the elder brain just eats them so IT can live forever. i would think that if an illithid chowed down on a liche's brain, it would learn about alternate methods of immortality, such as lichedom, which would also explain why alhoons are so stigmatized - they're basically walking, talking proof that the elder brain is full of shit about it being the only option available. if this occurred and illithids stopped merging with the elder brain, it would lose its power base.

    maybe illithids can eat all the undead brains they want, but they don't because the elder brains convinced them all that it would be bad.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:38 No.17480411
    Depends on the lich, most are skeletons, but a few just look like very dessicated corpses. Those might have shriveled up brains that go back to being juicy once you cast spark of life on them. The skeletal ones hinge on the idea that it can restore organs.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:40 No.17480447
    That... sounds about par for course for elder brains, actually.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:41 No.17480459
    What if the dessicated ones are crunchy and delicious?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:44 No.17480486

    That's fucking GENIUS

    I wonder if any Alhoons realized this. It's a pretty big, stupid hole for a bunch of super-geniuses, not to realize your afterlife is being eaten by a thing smarter than you.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:45 No.17480510
    They don't eat undead brains for the same reason we don't eat rotted meat infused with elemental entropy, shit just aint healthy. The illithids as a whole see joining the EB as an afterlife. Becoming an alhoon is the equivalent to spitting in the pope's face and saying heaven sucks. During a perpetual inquisition. The brains don't really see the existence of alhoons as a threat to their rule, but they're probably scared shitless of the prospect of being revealed as monsters that eat the brains of their minions. Which is something an alhoon might do for fun.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:45 No.17480512
    maybe undead brains give them the shits because theyre all rotty
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:58 No.17480714
    1st/2ed Mind Flayers were terrified of undead, the stock ones from the Monster Manual actually didn't have any ability to even harm them at all. Anything tougher than a zombie/skeleton would make them abandon their slaves to slow it down so they could run like hell.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:59 No.17480726
    You know, I've been wondering something about the elder brains. During whatever cataclysm that forced the mind flayers to travel back in time, they sacrificed a LOT of elder brains to power the spell.

    >sacrificing elder brains

    This just doesn't seem like them, even in such a desperate situation. I'm thinking the elder brains were nothing more than a sort of AI created by the illithids during their reign, to catalog information and help pilot the nautiloids, but after the psionic storm caused by the time travel spell they gained sentience (if they didn't already have it) and seized power while the illithids were little more than refugees.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)18:59 No.17480728

    hmm...i am intrigued by your religious metaphor for illithid society. it WOULD explain how they were able to construct an empire that spanned most of the universe, AND provide credence to that nagging rumor that their origins were human. humans fukken LOVE that religious shit, and some sort of knowledge-worshipping psychic cult seems right up their alley.

    also it works as an in-joke that in the D&D universe, psionic humans eventually spread like a plague across the universe, erecting an invincible star empire whose only weakness was indescribable levels of hubris, and whose only means of salvation was...time travel.

    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)19:03 No.17480791
    Woah, now THERE is an interesting campaign idea. The illithids realize that humans are their descendants, and start actively teaching them the art of psionics to spur along their evolution into illithids. Not an evil scheme, but a genuinely benign attempt to uplift them. It'd be fun to see how PCs react to this, especially the human ones.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)19:05 No.17480813
    Hrm, meant to say ancestors, but then again if the illithids are the ones who caused them to evolve...fucking time travel.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)19:14 No.17480955

    If Illithids already time-travelled back with no apparent consequences my guess is that they are here to stay, and no longer require the events that lead up to their future.

    That means canon D&D is probably a "river" pattern, where the Illithid future is just one of many possible ones, and them going back just invalidates it happening in this stream without invalidating themselves. This means that, potentially speaking, the Illithids could destroy this world entirely, and nothing would happen.

    If it wasn't the case, they'd've noticed, I'm sure, and their fucking about with Gith would've had bigger timey-wimey consequences. So if the sequence of events has already happened/will happen/can happen/does not need to happen

    Do the illithids realize this?
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)19:26 No.17481123
    They do, to an extent. They realize that their empire did, can, and likely will exist, but they also realize that it can fail. That's why they screw around with surface kingdoms, to learn everything possible about politics so they don't fuck it up.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)19:35 No.17481259
    Well, that would be their ancestors and not descendants. But the idea is cool, although it has already been used in a way in Doctor Who, in the end of season 3 of the new series, where the human race is brought back from the end of the universe through a time machine in order to serve the BBEG by killing their own ancestors. The BBEG had a "Paradox Engine" running so it wouldn't cause, well, a grandfather paradox, but this is something else entirely, since the mindflayer HAVE to NOT fuck up in order to have been created at all in the first place!
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)19:45 No.17481419
    Mind flayers have been time travelers from a distant future since 2e. I liked the music from that scene, though.
    >> Magus O'Grady 01/09/12(Mon)20:11 No.17481786
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    It probably operates on a non-continual scale, in which time travel has no attending paradoxes whatsoever. Send tomorrows stock information to yourself yesterday? Sure, it arrives on your ipad, which you now have two of, and the laws of physics don't care, allowing an object to exist in multiple points of space at the same time.
    >> Anonymous 01/09/12(Mon)20:17 No.17481864

    Mind Flayers predate your grandfather paradox, and also we already said D&D operates under different rules because the mind flayers have been making paradoxes for basically the whole fucking time they've been here


    So...is this where Mind Flayer tadpoles come from?
    >> pinkmawile !!BfgNt0j+IPD 01/10/12(Tue)00:42 No.17484953

    Book of Exalted Deeds has a Lawful Good Illithid Monk in it :v
    >> Anonymous 01/10/12(Tue)00:46 No.17484999

    Its important to note that although their time travelling didn't FUCK UP THE TIMESTREAM ZOMG, it did obliterate about 99% of the elder brains who catalyzed it.
    >> Anonymous 01/10/12(Tue)00:48 No.17485016
    Who is that way from magic.

    Also the Adversary might be evil, it just fucking hates illithids. Much like the Githzerai are evil and fucking hate illithids.
    >> Anonymous 01/10/12(Tue)00:55 No.17485087

    how does that work?

    iirc, according to Lords of Madness, illithids are literally, physically, mentally incapable of feeling anything "good" or otherwise altruistic. i don't recall the exact wording, but it was like, "the closest thing to happiness that they are capable of experiencing is the satisfaction of utterly conquering an enemy, which they experience most strongly right after eating someone's brain"

    anyone got a screencap of this LG illithid monk? unfortunately, i only have the sinister-and-goateed Book of Vile Darkness in my possession, and not its clean-shaven mirror-universe doppelganger.
    >> pinkmawile !!BfgNt0j+IPD 01/10/12(Tue)00:57 No.17485117

    Wasn't magic. They were victims of a slave uprising and imprisoned and tortured by their former slaves. Then they were freed by an adventuring band and eventually adopted the creed of mercy and kindness that the adventures had show them.
    >> pinkmawile !!BfgNt0j+IPD 01/10/12(Tue)01:05 No.17485203
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    >band of adventurers
    >find imprisoned illithids
    >set them free

    >> Anonymous 01/10/12(Tue)01:10 No.17485254
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    >female mind flayer

    >> Anonymous 01/10/12(Tue)01:11 No.17485272
    About the psionic undead brain : been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

    Take a lot of Brains-in-jars, shelf them near each other, mind-link yourself permanently to one you dominate forever, and voilĂ , you've got your eternal personal thought-assistant. Also, since they come from Libris Mortis, each of them has a cumulative 1% chance of upgrading by 1 HD every year. Fun Fact : the Arcane version of the Genesis spell allows for the creation of a personal demi-plane where you control the timeflow. Hoorray for overclocking!
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    >> pinkmawile !!BfgNt0j+IPD 01/10/12(Tue)01:14 No.17485286
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    I'm guessing they are meaning a gender, not a sex with that one.

    Maybe being constantly raped by Duergar broke its mind and it formed a feminine personality?
    >> Anonymous 01/10/12(Tue)01:14 No.17485291

    Phenotypal female. Assuming Illithids can take on characteristics of their hosts, one can maintain a feminine figure but still be hermaphroditic.
    >> Anonymous 01/10/12(Tue)01:19 No.17485324

    I like how a simple group of retarded mind-blasted thoroughly dominated slave dwarfs apparently not only rose up, but had the physical strength and class levels to beat down an incredibly high-CR creature with a huge array of personal powers, /and/ somehow found a mystical artifact or psionic talent to suppress the Illithid's single most powerful weapon for a duration long enough to actually /make the illithid a slave/ in ironic punishment.

    I actually find this less believable than "spared by adventurers", because there's always one group of retards who look at a dungeon crawl and go "HEY GUYS LET'S ALL TAKE PACIFIST FEATS".

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