Wow, /tg/ is goin' fast today.

Merry Christmas, LawfulNice, and thank you!

Wow, Thanks LawfulNice! How nice of you to do this! Put her there, pal!

HAHA, EVERY YEAR

You're like some kind of neckbearded santa. Rock on, sir.

lawfulnice sucks cock for satan

>>17330644
WHO TOLD YOU? HOW DID YOU FIND- I mean haha, that's so silly. I'm not a member of a satanic sex cult!

You have really good timing when it comes to holidays.

An official Dungeons: the Dragoning release thread?

Praise Vectron!

THIS IS A GOOD DAY.

>new Dungeons The Dragoning release
Praise be!

PRAISE BE TO VECTRON AND ALL HIS GLORY!

IA! IA! VECTRON FNTAGN!

(no seriously <3 you guys)

(ps what is the irc channel again I find myself really wanting to play this and the urge is not going away so I figure I'll show up there and pretend to know wtf I'm talking about)

>>17330827
irc.rizon.net
#dungeonooc

Merry Christmas man, I ran my first game of this just a week or so ago and loved it. is there a summary of changes anywhere?

What is this, a homebrew?

A Doctor Who Christmas special AND a new DtD release? Truly this is the best day ever.

>>17330958

This is the best day of /tg/

>>17330958
It is the greatest homebrew
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/14440223

Hark, it is I, and I heard that somebody wanted a copy of my crappy incomplete SM screen!

Be aware, these were made for 1.4, I haven't read 1.5 yet, so you're on your own for that.

Also, as I originally made these for my own use, there's some spelling errors and minor typos. Although enough people have pestered me about that that I guess I'll try and make a new one sometime later this week.

and actually, I have a lot of bored homebrew foes and whatnot I need to tidy up and post over on the White Wizard's Workshop forums.

>>17331057
>>17331067
He's on IRC right now but he's gone for dinner. I've relayed these to him, seems neat.

what the hell captcha, that one was microscopic and sideways.

LawfulNice you do realize this is the closest as playing as a Xenos in 40k is right?

I'd suck your dick but you are in the internet.

Also, for those of you lucky enough to have actual players to sit around a table and play D:tD with, here's what I used for the fronts.

>>17331057
>>17331067
>>17331083
These are neat. A quick glance seems like they're still valid.

as long as we're on the topic of awesome homebrews, anybody know if AdEva 2.5 has officially released yet?

>>17331113

WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS, IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED.

>>17331100

There's some serious clearing up issues that I need to do. A lot of my notes were basically 'SEE SPELLS IF ANYBODY ACTUALLY TRIES TO BE A MAGE'. Also lack of notification that you get a Full action OR two half actions.

The center screen in general can be printed out as a player aide as well.

Lawful, you are glorious and great.

>>17331123

Fantastic. I'll have to swing by later and check.

>>17331100

Thanks. I want to include more information on some of the bits. How does the formatting seem to be? I just kinda said 'eh, fuck it here's a font, let's start typing, and see what goes where'. I kind of took three sheets of paper, turned them sideways, and then scribbled in general ideas of what to go where, and went to typing. That's why there's a lot of dead space in some of the pages, but I didn't want to cram it all in. I mean, I don't really do any real graphic design work, so hell if I know how it looks/works.

THANK YOU BASED GOD

>>17331123

Why am I posting on /tg/ as Rage?

What have you changed from the previous edition?

Best of days! Just had downloaded, looks excellent.

Thank you google reader and RSS feeds.

>>17331057
>>17331067
>>17331083
As the one who asked in the other thread, thank you very much.

Anyone playing this online?

I truly want to make my group embrace this system but I wanted to play it before as a player to see how the mechanics work.

>>17331279

You are welcome. After my chucklefuck of a That Guy blew up my chance to try and run D:tD offline, I'm happy people can have a use for it.

> Pic basically how my first D:tD character went. Good times

>>17331304

>THAT GUY ruined your chances of IRL DtD

How the hell did he do that? How do you shoot down something that's as awesome as DtD?

>>17331302

IF you can handle the pbp medium, I'm running a game on Myth-weavers over here:

>http://www. myth-weavers. com/forumdisplay.php?f=20546

I'm booting two players for inactivity, one of which I don't regret at all, and I might be willing to pick up a player or two, as it kinda stalled out of the gate immediately.

If you need IRC, sorry, my online times are pretty random so I'm horrible with those.

>>17331203
Well, what I did was put up a general change request form for people to find mistakes and such so I could edit them out more efficiently.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajz0IWee6VmEdEpxRXpkVHhMOTliY3NhWjlucW5yclE#gid=0

That's a link to a mirrored version. It's a bit rough, but you can see some of the major changes there.

>>17331319
Happend to me once. I sugested we try this system to our group and THAT(not really) GUY claimed it was too similar to Exalted.

I understand DtD has a exaltation system but it's actually easy and fun to manage it and it's not really the focus of the system.

Thank you so much! Merry Christmas to you, you magnificent bastard.

>>17331322
Thanks bro let me check this out.

>>17331319

short version: got bored, ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT of the place they were supposed to storm and rescue an Eldarin's general daughter, showed him the footage bragging about how awesome his ship is (after another party member had managed to social-fu away that debacle to begin with), then threw a quiet bitch fit when he got the Enemy hindrance for no EXP because of that.

I don't feel like typing up the whole long version again. I might be forming a new game night, and might try re-opening the topic if the right guys show up to it, because some guys had actually been playing pretty awesomely.

>>17331341

>It's too similar to Exalted
>IT'S A GIANT MELTING POT OF SYSTEMS, INCLUDING EXALTED

...Is he retarded? Like, does he have Down's Syndrome or some shit? How does one guy's disapproval automatically mean that nobody else would play? Can't you just tell him to sit this one out, then?

>>17331322
I would be down for trying that game. But I don't have time now during the holidays.

>>17331350

Just PM the head GM (that's me) with general ideas, mention you're the guy from /tg/, etc, so i know you're not just some random idiot who can't read barging into the forums.

Also, no ships, even if you take Holdings, mostly because I'm still skittish from THAT GUY, and the difficulty of balancing ship scale and personal scale. I might be making an F-Zero/Star Fox styled game in a few months that would lean more toward the vehicle/ship scale.

>>17331341
oh, you could certainly use it to run Exalted (personally I recommend M&M for that).

But its nothing like it except some words and the use of the dotted character sheet of wods.

In fact the biggest difference is that DTD mechanics aren't hopelessy borked!

Question:
Will you include Santapire as part of official fluff?

also turning off my name now that I'm done with the screen dumping.

Anyway, reading the new fluff text.

>Admiral Cain
>mfw

>>17331368
Is that "no ships at all" or just "we won't be using the advanced ship-building rules or ship battles as detailed in Book 2"? Because getting around would be damn tough without a ship.

Oh, hey, LawfulNice, if you're still hanging around;

1. What are the general costs for acquiring new torpedos, the BP cost * 5? the BP cost itself? (can't be that, I assume?)

2. Any good idea for determining monetary rewards in terms of either dots of wealth, or specific bonus to acquisitions, or something similar?


Also typo watch: Dragonborn still have 'synergy' listed as their power stat on their progression table.

>>17331424
You could play a hell of a game in a single crystal sphere, though. Imagine, your spelljammer crashed on a feral world. The PCs are the only survivors, and there's no tech. Then you discover an ancient evil buried deep within the core of this planet.

>>17331424
Just because there is a galaxy out there doesn't mean a whole adventure can't take place in just one of the spheres.

>>17331424

>we won't be using the advanced ship-building rules or ship battles as detailed in Book 2

Basically that. There's still plenty of SPAAAAAAAAACE, and I may eventually give the group a ship of their own, but it's intent is to be a setpiece. Things like the orbital bombardment, teleportarium, etc. make me have to either plan out alternatives, or start waving technobabble nonsense around.

Also ship combat, if you're not an officer (i.e. somebody with appropriate skills or classes) or captain of your own ship, can get really, really boring, and I am under the impression that would only get worse in a pbp setting.

>>17331481
>>17331482

Also what these two guys said, although that's not the intent of my game.

What is the reference at the beginning of book 2?
It seems familiar... Yet I'm not sure where it's from.

>>17331538

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN

Also the Cain books, hero of the imperium, pip pip and all that. And a side-reference to BSG.

C-Can it be? An update for D:TD? And bookmarked too!

It truely IS Christmas!

Vectron Bless Us; Every-one!
- Tinny Tim, Promethean Cleric

>>17331557
Now I wonder why it felt familiar to me.
Khaaaaaaaaaan is an obscure reference to me and I never read any wh40k book.

>>17331362
The core aspect of Exalted is (now) "all non-solars wish they could be solars and look up to Desus as their spiritual liege" so I would disagree that its particularly Exalted.

The only thing that really screams Exalted to me is that we have both vampires and daemonhosts (which are based off abyssals, which are in turn based off vampires), so we have two sorts of undeadish blood drinkers.

>>17331580

Well, it's the opening of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. I assumed that because I was on /tg/, that'd count.

And I've never actually read anything 40K, or even played. I just pick up that much of it via osmosis from being on here.

Aww shit man. you have to release this just when I'm about to go trekking on the countryside, with naught by my side but my trusty Chi-pod mp3 player?

Die bump.

So... the setting for D:TD is every even remotely /tg/ related setting you know of is actually a crystal sphere floating in a greater cosmos, and with the advents of Spelljaming and Warp Drives they broke out of what they thought was the universe and can now jump around between crystal sphere galaxies?

also Lawfulnice, looking at book 1.5, the bookmarks have gone all fucking crazy. I don't know if it's my computer, but it's got random little book marks that have grabbed onto some of the flavor text things.

>>17331720

Yes. The idea is that it's every setting ever, if you can figure out how to land it into the framework of the races, classes, or exaltations, depending on what you're going for.

I've had one guy mention trying to play the main character from Soul Reaver by refluffing a Deamonhost a little bit.

Hell, in my RL game, I'd interspliced Cylons, modrons, and necrons together, complete with a V-mask wearing Trazyn knockoff.

>>17331775
As cool as that is, I can only see myself using this as a go-to for converting things into an accessible system. My presence in my group's is pretty heavy handed, to the point where I make and revise their characters; not to optimise, but to make sure they are functional. I introduced them to Pathfinder, and subsequently traditional gaming as more than checkers, not one year ago and have been DMing for them since. They're always coming to me with, "Is there a game for this," or "- a way to play that?"

I wish I knew more fa/tg/uys irl. My mind churns with satire and spinoffs that I would love to derp through with some gents.

>>17331846

Well, if you want to, you can always pre-make them characters, and then write up very small cities and go with it from there. D:tD is all about what is in your head; if you limit the scope they can percieve at any one time, you'll limit the head explosions.

Even the players who I had a good time with when I ran it once were a little overwhelmed when they see everything at once.

Hell, it'd be very easy to run a TF2 or some sort of MGS like game using paragons or something similar and low-complexity.

Archived: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17330530/
Lets make this as popular as the first thread!

>>17331733
I used an auto-bookmarker this time around. I tried to clean it up a bit, but with family over there was only so much I could do.

Still looking for online tables to try this system. I really like what I see, but I want to try it before playing with my group. They are a bit touchy for new ideas.

>>17332115

Ah hah, gotcha. Yeah, I was surprised to see this out today, but it's pretty crazy all over.

Thanks again for doing this, by the way, LawfulNice. You give inspiration to my efforts to actually finish stuff that gets jotted down in my DM/design notebook.

sooooo...
I have never really payed attention to this, but downloaded it for the hell of it...

What is this?
Some sort of "Superpowerful Spaceknights in Powerarmor strangling void dragons with the guts of a thousand year old chaos god - the game"?

>>17332391

It's the most beautiful train wreck of several systems come together. It's all about being over the top and crazy and loving it.

And only gnomes can really start in power armor and get away with it.

I'm glad people are enjoying this so far.

I'm glad people are enjoying this so far. Maybe soon I'll start a new change request doc for people to serve as my EDITOR SLAVES

>>17332854
Nigga do it.

i want the next expansion be all about DYNASTY WARRIORS OROCHI: CHINESE VS. THE ENTIRE FUCKING GALAXY with Lu Bu riding a red space ship from the outside and rules for fighting massive scale battles using mooks and units.

I want to have rules for mass combat and I want it as over the top you can do.

Damn it - LawfulNice - you are fucking awesome! You, Scripty, Mr. Rage, Ifuritasfan, DLFG, God-Emperor, all the drawfags .... thank you all for doing what you enjoy and allowing us to see it.

>>17332977
*thumbs up*
I'll probably keep bumping this from time to time while I'm awake, just so people see it.

>>17332960

We joked that the next one would be the Girly Update. Magical Girls, Ponies, and shit like that.

>>17332960

I would like to add that at the very least, I'd like to see some sort of rule system existing for using followers either in mass combat, as minions, or things you can do with them in general, just to unabstract them a touch.

Also Dynasty warriors.

>>17333188
Mass combat, eh? I'll have to consider that. IIRC, Exalted's mass combat system isn't too bad. Compared to the rest of the game.

DON'T WORRY, THREAD, I'LL SAVE YOU

Bampu

So, no comments? I'm disappointed. :(

D:tD and the return of Totemist Quest?
It is truly a blessed day.

>>17333154
>>17333672
Then it's decided! Girly shit and MASS FUCKING COMBAT for the next book!

Someone quickly photoshop Lu Bu riding Fluttershy or any one of the Ponies /co/ seem to love so much. This will be the fucking cover.


"I will deal with you from atop this pony!"

>>17334676
More like Rainbow Dash, only the fastest will do for the flying general

>>17334768
I'm not really into this pony thing.

Still! I'm looking foward to see lawfulnice provide awesome shit for people who are.

Wait, wait.

>Kobold Heroes
>Zaheva
>Parents are dead
>out for vengeance, and justice
>Bright costume, advanced gadgets
BatKobold?

>>17335023
I AM THE NIGHT

>>17335049
Fuck yes.

Or is he/she supposed to be Spider-Kobold? Fuck yeah, either way, of course.

>>17335068
God my memory sucks tonight, to forget gender that quick.

I think this'll be my last bump for tonight. I'll maybe post this again later in the week to give this more exposure.

Awesome! Been thinking about running a game.

>MFW new Dungeons the Dragoning

Time to bring up DtD to my group again and get a new game started.

I love LOVE your work lawfulnice. This is great i am going to try and play this with my little bro and one of his friends shit will be cash and i may decide to regal tg with the story after the fact all i know is my little brother will play a devotion (or whatever the morality stat everyone has) 10 cleric of vectron

This is wonderful thing.

>>17333154
...I'm all for Magical Girls.
But make them neither Grimdark nor absolutely Girly. Find a good balance or give us customization.

LawfulNice, have you seen Madoka?

Whelp, fuck the 4E game my friends were forcing me to DM i'm running this.

>>17337186
Of course I have. Granted, those weren't really magical girls as much as they were really well preserved Liches...

>>17338208
Emotionally unstable Lichs with frills, I'd say.
They also tended to become Eldritch Abominations.

Thread the Bumpening
IN PROGRESS

So is anybody perhaps running a game of this online? I´d love to try it out.

Praise Vectron for ensuring that the most devote followers of Vectron will have to praise Vectron with their every sentence! By Vectrons shiny eyes this should lead to an interesting encounter with the high priest when I resurrect my DtD game, with Vectron's blessing.

Bumping for those who spent Christmas with their family and are only now getting back to their computers.

The rules for this look amazing, how does it go in actual play though?

>>17332960
>I want to have rules for mass combat and I want it as over the top you can do.
I want this too. With ship-based rules in, this is my biggest remaining want.

>Lu Bu riding a red space ship from the outside
>riding a space ship from the outside
We also need rules for this. And rules for attacking a space ship directly, with your handheld weapons. I want to cleave a spelljammer in twain with my giant sword.

>>17334676
This will be the best book ever. Call it "Legions of Moe"

>>17337186
If not he needs to watch it. He should also check out Magical Burst, and blend elements of that into the Magical Girl exaltation.

>>17342819

I'm both in and running a game of it and I have to say it runs pretty well. There has been the occasional instance of 'Wait...how does that work' but overall it's been very good.

>>17342905
It's just that it is a mix of everything I think is great and because of the roll/keep system it's got a nice curve probability which I have a bit of a hard on for.
Well damn good to hear that it works, I'll continue reading through.

>>17342880
>Legions of Moe
He can add all sorts of generic anime shit.

He can add Mary Sue as an Exaltation.

Anyone running this thing online?

>>17342927
>Mary Sue as an exaltation

Gentlemen

I give you

the beginning of the end

>"Legions of Moe"
>Mary Sue as an Exaltation
>also magical girls and ponies
This will be the best splatbook ever. Now we only need full stats for frilly hats and perhaps also dresses as items and artifacts.

LAWFUL NICE ARE YOU GETTING THIS SHIT

THIS IS FUCKING GOLD, MAN

>>17342937
Someone get the transpace guard in on this

>Legions of Moe
I'm imagining a planet where every person is mentally controlled by magically imbued little girl cartoons and formed into great Moefag armies. When the Moeverlord chooses, they are diverted from their home realm, the land of Grorious Nippon, into massive suicidal armies which choke out their enemies with pure numbers.

Ponies are stupid and don't really fit in with the rest stylistically or powerwise. You'd have to use the ponies winged and horned living creator gods from the show as the default for players

>>17343063
Ponies aren't inherently inferior to humans or Tau or anything like that. Ponies are going in as a race, not an Exaltation. The ones you're speaking of would be Pony Paragons, or something. Maybe there should be a "Demigod" exaltation which allows you to be double the normal size (or just Size+2, whichever is more balanced).

What would a Mary Sue exaltation even entail? All I can figure is that it would have a tell wherein the eyes change color, or they glow with a rainbow light.

>>17342974
>full stats for frilly hats and perhaps also dresses as items and artifacts.

if we get bonuses from the frillyness of our girly hats I want additional rules for bonuses for the manlyness of our mustaches like 7th sea desperately needed. (also it needed them for the size and floppyness our hats and the outrageousness of our accents.

>>17343134
That should all be covered by a sort of a general "description bonus" thing. A sort of a stunt bonus, I guess. Some DMs might be down for awarding starting XP as a reward for that stuff. Most would give you stunt bonuses for incorporating it into your actions.

>>17343159

Well, hats and fancy mustaches and such might help to fulfill the 2 dot stunt requirements. It's not 'I stab them', it's 'I give a jaunty tip of my feathered hat as I dance around their blade, mine licking along their leg.'

>>17343132
"Heart" sounds like a good name for a resource stat. They should be required to take a single "flaw". That flaw doesn't effect anything, but they can invoke it to regain Heart points. I'm not sure what the Powers would be. Does anyone have some good Mary Sues to post for research purposes?

>>17343183
>>17343159
perfect. I am completely satisfied with the game now

>>17343192

I think the charm line of spells would be a good thing to add to their abilities. Just for the irrational 'Why does the grumpy cynic love them from moment one' factor.

>>17343192
Mary Sue will have one power. When used you pick a power from a different exaltation and do that but with an additional +1 bonus somewhere

>>17343211
This has to actually be balanced and usable. That can be their five-dot power. And adding +1s costs a heart point for each one. And it can only apply to the four dot or lower abilities.

>>17343232
>Trying to balance the Mary Sue

>>17343244
You may think this is a joke (and it is) but people will actually play this.

>>17343232

A decent way to help keep it balanced would be to make them pay double. So they CAN do the fancy tricks but it's going to cost them like hell.

>>17343307
That impinges on the fun of both the Mary Sue and people playing exaltations that the Mary Sue copies. How about if instead the Mary Sue is required to earn a stunt bonus with dice equal to the dot cost of the power used? If she fails, it's a flashy and cool action but only has the mechanical potency of a normal similar action, with whatever stunt bonus was earned.

>>17343336
What about Powers that aren't actions, but that apply indefinitely, like most of them?

>>17343372

I guess you would get it for a turn, or maybe whatever their Blood Potency equivalent in turns.

>>17343372
Lasts the duration of the scene. Costs a Heart Point, or a number of heart points equal to that ability's dot cost. Sound good?

>>17343201
I don't know about giving them the spells, but giving them the abilites would be good. Maybe they can use Charm by spending a Heart point (without the normal complications that magic would involve, and using Heart instead of Enchantment) or they're treated as being constantly under the effects of the Attraction spell. Or both.

>>17343434
So their one-dot power, (call it "Enchanting"?) gives them the effect of Attraction and lets them use a form of Charm. Their Five dot Power ("Do Anything Better"?) lets them mimic other abilities at the cost of heart points and/or stunts.

I hope LawfulNice turns up soon to give his thoughts on this stuff.

Fluffwise, where does those of the the Mary Sue Excaltion gain their powers from?

>>17344080
By being The One. In all the multiverse, there is but one of them.

Perhaps they traveled the spheres, making sure of this.

>>17344109
>>17344080

This would be fantastic, with an extra highlander vibe to the whole thing.

Well, using Anime themes should be done very carefully.

LawfulNice, you have seen Madoka. Have you seen Korean Zombie Desk Car? Or Princess Tutu? I want to be sure that you have decend inspiration for this book.

>>17344080
>>17344109
>>17344201
Maybe they are created by a god while it is in puberty.
Ever god has to come from somewhere and every god is more or less omnipotent - So maybe they have a phase that works as analogue to puberty, where they created retarded stuff that they later feel embarassed for.
(That's also the reason for flooding Earth in the bible.)


But what about Marty Stus? Next book? DARKNESS as ressource?

Hey, the 1d4chan page on DtD is still a stub. We should get in there and expand it.

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Dungeons:_the_Dragoning_40,000_7th_Edition

It looks like both of the links are dead. Sadness.

Bump. Hopefully Lawfulnice will come along and give us new links and discuss our ideas for the new book soon enough.

Rise, Thread, by Vectron's Golden Talons!
May Vectron return you to the zeroeth page!

Could anyone who downloaded the books reupload them?

>>17346240
>>17350921
The links worked fine for me. But these links should clear up any problems:

Book 1 1.5:
http://www.multiupload.com/GLTAJSO39N

Book 2 1.2:
http://www.multiupload.com/YSSM930945

Bump
Lawfulnice! Why hath thou forsaken us?

>>17330852
NOPE. It's #DtDChat on Rizon.

I love the idea of the Mary Sue exaltation having a "flaw" to regain there resource stat and the real problem of being compelled to destroy other Mary Sues. This leaves one problem though what if to players both want to play Mary Sues? I propose that this is allowed and gets around the highlander thing one of two ways. One they are required to "try" and "kill" each other but they are allowed to be laughably and comically ineffectual if some other force (read excuse) makes them work together say a greater enemy or a common ally. Alternately they could be "sisters" or some other such BS that explains why they both make each other seem more "awesome" so killing them would not be the Sueish thing to do.

also magical girls should be a separate exalt and cover the Kamin rider/Beetle Borg/Powerranger aspect two.

>>17358778
Maybe Mary Sue Highlander-ism could more fluff than crunch? Although there might need to be a mechanical benefit for fighting other Sues. OH, and they should be hard to kill. That's a thing that the Immortals and Mary Sues definitively have in common.

Oh, and I suppose Super Sentai is basically the male equivalent of magical girls.

>>17358778
The weakness aspect is good. Maybe stuff like throwing a shitfit if someone doesn't listen to them.
For the Highlander aspect, I think it would make sense if Mary Sues could gain power by killing each other and could sense each other's presense (Though not exact location).

For transforming characters, I think there should be a masquerade mechanic.