Posting mode: Reply
Password(Password used for file deletion)
  • Supported file types are: GIF, JPG, PNG
  • Maximum file size allowed is 3072 KB.
  • Images greater than 250x250 pixels will be thumbnailed.
  • Read the rules and FAQ before posting.
  • ????????? - ??

  • File : 1322008199.jpg-(41 KB, 768x614, cathedralmap.jpg)
    41 KB TG Quest 26: There was an Intro Here. It's Gone Now. OP 11/22/11(Tue)19:29 No.16994064  
    I lost my first post when I accidentally hit some buttons I shouldn't have.


    Last Thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16975328/

    Short Summary: You have just managed to bring Douglas Cartland back to life after Data's Lal-thing monster made him quite dead. Sending Spike down to reinforce the group, you now must decide where to go next as you explore the Cathedral of the Order.

    Stealing map from last thread anon because he did damn fine work.

    As usual, longer summary/inventory available on demand.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:33 No.16994089

    Can we get a inventory of just the away team? I can't remember who has what armour/weapons.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:33 No.16994091
    Fuck yeah Meta Quest!

    Okay, I think we need to have Spike and Heather check the room with the statues of Data, Heather, and Spike, to see if one of Douglas has magically appeared.

    Also, this give Data a chance to make sure that Douglas has been stabilized, and to see if any holes in his armor can be patched up.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)19:37 No.16994118
    Away Team Status:
    Heather/Cheryl Mason: Mass Effect Hardsuit. M41-A Pulse Rifle.

    Douglas Cartland: Mass Effect Hardsuit. M41-A Pulse Rifle.

    Lt. Commander Data: Phaser Rifle. Kinetic Barrier. Reality Emitter.

    Spike Spiegal: A280 Blaster Rifle, Handgun, Hand Phaser. Kinetic Barrier. Reality Emitter.

    Viper-series Probe Droid: Integral Blaster. Manipulator arms/built in tools.

    Protoss Observer: If you click it, it makes funny noises.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:37 No.16994121
    Heather's bum really took a pounding in that boss fight, I'm glad to see he recovered though.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:41 No.16994143
    Much obliged to you sire.

    Seconding sensible plan from >>16994091
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:41 No.16994152
    click the Observer
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:42 No.16994154
    I'm pretty sure that Heather and Doug have Reality Emitters as well, that we took from the TG Recruit squad in order to give to them.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:43 No.16994169
    Hmm, might that not inhibit Heathers plot armor and (possible) psychic powers?
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)19:44 No.16994176

    Oh, right. Well, even if not, Spike could've brought them with no problem.

    Data does not have the materials on hand to patch up Doug's suit. The room with the status appears to have remained the same.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:45 No.16994182
    A possibility. She could just keep her's turned off.
    >> mick824 11/22/11(Tue)19:46 No.16994197
    click the Observer again
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:47 No.16994200
    Alright. Let's check the Red Mask. Does it appear to be one that could cover the eyes of Data's statue?

    I think we should take it, but make sure that everyone is ready for another possible boss-fight first. It may be the key to another puzzle.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:48 No.16994224
    So, is there going to be another area that focuses on Spike's inner demons and regrets?
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)19:50 No.16994241

    It does indeed appear to be so. However, it is out of reach, a good twelve feet in the air.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:50 No.16994242
    rolled 24 = 24

    >The room with the status appears to have remained the same.

    Okay, so Spike has replaced Doug in whatever SH has planned. We had the red mask picked out for eyes but we were looking for something to cover ears, right? Maybe check the prison room again. Rolling for Spot Hidden, because it makes me feel better.

    Also, is Doug conscious? If he is, ask him how he feels.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)19:54 No.16994286
    "Like a sack of crap kicked around by a drunken horse with bladed horseshoes," Douglas grumbles. "Hey, could be worse, huh?"

    You conduct a search of the cell and do not find anything else, but you do notice there is another cell attached to the hallway.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:55 No.16994301
    >it is out of reach, a good twelve feet in the air.
    Okay, so we probably need to put an offering in the bowl in front of Alessa's statue in order for the mask to become acquirable.

    Okay, let's go to the left door from the hall with 3 doors, and check the other jail cells to see if other plot items or clues are in the other cells or if there is another door.

    If there's nothing, we try the center door of the 3 doors.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:56 No.16994310
    Hey OP, I'm a little worried about the whole "reviving Doug with only a 42" thing. I'm just saying it'd be surprising that that low a roll brought someone back from the dead.
    Or are you plotting something...
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:56 No.16994311
    Okay, let's check that other cell.
    Anything in there?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:58 No.16994328
    "Yes, you could be dead"

    Get our guys together and have them cautiously investigate the other cell.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)19:58 No.16994332
    I wonder if we get an Upgrade to Data and/or Spike from this.
    If so, I'm genuinely curious about Silent Hill's potential use.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:03 No.16994389
    Tell Heather that she can trust us, and help her fight Silent Hill.
    But also tell her that we can't tell her everything about us. E.g.: We just brought a man back from the dead. What would happen if everyone knew how to do that?

    Note: I didn't fully read earlier threads so I don't know exactly how badly we screwed the pooch. I hope we didn't actually say "Lol there's a meta and crossovers and now we have SPACESHIPS FROM STAR TREK". If we did, then ignore this plan entirely, and just go with the memory wipe.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:04 No.16994405
    ...we did

    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:06 No.16994426
         File1322010383.jpg-(15 KB, 618x407, facepalm.jpg)
    15 KB
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:07 No.16994436
    We did. All of it.
    Now go and read just how badly it was done.

    We will need to Obliviate her memory after all of this, if she doesn't join up with us.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:08 No.16994445

    Hey, could have been a much greater clusterfuck.

    >One plan was to deepstrike all our military assets into the SH-like zone.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)20:09 No.16994457
    The other cell appears to contain a simple cot, made up and clean...

    "Wait..." Spike says, holding up a hand. "There's something underneath the cot. In the corner there."
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:10 No.16994469
    It's a trick...get an axe.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:12 No.16994478
    To be fair, deploying all our military assets and shooting everything is suggested in every mission, along with orbital striking/nuking everything.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:13 No.16994487
    Neat, a thing. Let's pick up the thing.

    I assume the Probe droid is in the normal world, but Spike, Heather, Heather's bum and Data are in the otherworld. Is that correct?
    Are there any differences between the maps of the real world and the otherworld?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:13 No.16994500

    Have Data scan the cot and its surrounding environment with a tricorder.

    In addition, if anyone has a portable radio, turn it on. If I remember correctly, monsters in Silent Hill cause a certain type of static on radios when they get into proximity of them.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:15 No.16994512
    Worth a try, but we were getting worldwide static earlier.
    I just realised what that meant.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:17 No.16994537
    It means that if we beat silent hill, we'll be able to talk to Radio and News stations, or if they're all destroyed, surviving civilian populations planetside?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:17 No.16994546

    The type of static differs when monsters approach. It's different from the static when you can't find a station that broadcasts on the frequency you select. I think.

    And later on, if the radio goes dead silent and its batteries are still well-charged, we're either five kinds of boned or did a good job.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:20 No.16994573
    Weapons out, Data checks the thing with the tricorder. See if he can see whatever it is.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:22 No.16994598
    If there aren't any stations that broadcast on a given frequency, a radio is silent.
    Radio static is whitenoise, caused by too many different stations trying to broadcast on that frequency. For instance: The frequency civilian boats use to call for rescue is dead silent when not in use, so that ships with weak radios can still call for help.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:25 No.16994626
    So if the whole world has been enshrouded in mist for like... several months, isn't that really really bad for plantlife?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:28 No.16994648

    Indirectly, yeah.

    The concentrated eldritch evil settling down on the land that the mist covers probably isn't good for the flora/fauna either.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:29 No.16994654
    Everything would be rotting to shit with all that moisture in the air.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:31 No.16994666

    TG Quest!

    Alright! What do we have today?

    Hey, that was some quality treknobabble that we employed, I researched the whole works beforehand.
    If we had access to an actual medbay, we wouldn't have even needed the RED. Federation medical tech is actually kind of scary.

    Well, let's see what we have here..
    Also, did we ever confirm if the mask in the altar room was eye covering or not?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:32 No.16994683
    It appears to be
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:33 No.16994694
    It's eye covering and too high to reach. We need to either make an offering to Alessa to get it down, or trigger a way to destroy the statue.

    This being Silent Hill, "Stand on each-other's shoulders" or "Blow the statue up with weapons" is likely not the answer and will just lead to 50 pyramid heads and a Shiba Inu showing up and telling you to cut that shit out.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:33 No.16994700
    Silent Hill 'fog' isn't the weather kind of fog, its a concealing supernatural projection of thick smoke from the memory of a certain fire.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)20:35 No.16994725
    When Spike goes to open the cell door, you swiftly find that it is locked, and does not open with the key you found. Data uses his tricorder.

    "It appears to be a book of some kind. It is emitting energies my tricorder cannot precisely identify, but seem to be linked into the quantum spectrum."
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:35 No.16994728
    OP has been murdered by CthulhuPyramidHead.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)20:37 No.16994738
    Naw, just had to answer the phone from a caller that knows neither hills or nor SILENCE.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:38 No.16994749
    Well, finding keys it is.
    So, we have the other 2 places branching off from this corridor. Let's go there. Open a door, walk in, tell me what's present.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:38 No.16994751
    Get Egon on an open channel, we might need his help with the book. Any chance of picking the lock, Spike?
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)20:39 No.16994766
    rolled 11 = 11

    "I can give it a shot," Spike says, pulling out a few picks.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:39 No.16994768
    Hm, do we have, or see, any items that we might be able the snag it with?
    Similar question regarding the mask in the other room.

    Assuming that answer is no, I suppose it is time to open another door. Everyone reasonably patched up? We sent in a toolkit along with the medkit so Data could work repairs too.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:40 No.16994779


    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:41 No.16994785
    Well, Spike just dropped all his lockpicks into the locked room.
    So, no, Silent Hill doesn't like alternative solutions. Explore those other areas and find them plot coupons.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:41 No.16994790

    Pick breaks and shards blind him.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:41 No.16994793

    Alright then.

    Let's get that book. Move the cot very carefully off the book, then see if we can catch a glimpse of the book's cover or spine.

    >Captcha: refreshing! nastrie
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:43 No.16994803

    Door slams open and knocks Spike back, then shuts and locks itself EVEN HARDER.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:44 No.16994807
    Alright, looks like no innovative non-puzzle based solutions for us.

    Next stop: I vote for the center door of the 3-door hallway.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)20:51 No.16994888
    Spike tries for a while, then his picks audible snap in the keyhole, falling to the floor in pierces. Spike cusses a bit as he stands up and dusts off his hands on his jacket.

    "...nope!" he says.

    Looking around, you can't see anything that immediately jumps out as obviously useful.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:52 No.16994908
    rolled 1 = 1

    Well, time to open another door.
    3-door hallway go!
    Roll of 1: Open the middle one
    Roll of 2: Open the far right one
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:53 No.16994923
    I'd say the door across.
    Generally the side doors of these hallways lead to the stuff you need to get past whatever is blocking the way on along the main path.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)20:53 No.16994925
    Check out the center door of the 3-door hallway.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)21:08 No.16995100
    You open the center door to reveal a large room lined with closets and chests of drawers. Boxes of unlit candles, incense, and other sundry good used for worship are scattered around, along with a few grotesque paintings, statuettes, and candelabras. Several long handled crook-shaped candle-lighters, used for lightning tall candle-sticks, ceiling torches, and such, lay against the far wall..
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:10 No.16995127
    Acquire long handled crook-shaped candle-lighter.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:13 No.16995170
    Are any of the crooks enough to reach the mask?
    Explore the closets and drawers for anything sparkly, or rendered with more polygons and sharper textures than their surroundings.
    Take a candle, too. Never know when a light source that you can place somewhere might be useful.

    Data: Tricorder for hidden items
    Heather: Recognise any paintings/statuettes?
    Heather's bum: What can you make of this, if anything?
    Spike: Where would YOU look if you wanted to find something hidden? Like, if someone wanted to hide a wad of Cash in this room to pick up later, where would they hide it?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:14 No.16995177

    Inspect the paintings. They're likely to be more disturbing than helpful, but you never know where a hint will be.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:20 No.16995242
    Picking up some candles and matches is always good. Incense, too, since that might be what we need for Alessa's offering bowl.

    Look through the paintings and statuettes, see if Data can upload them to ANON for analysis.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:21 No.16995253
    Should be able to drag the book out with it.
    We'll have to see how well attached the mask is.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:21 No.16995256
    These all seem useful suggestions.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)21:23 No.16995270
    rolled 65 = 65

    Your team takes some of the candles, and one of the long handled lighters which might be long enough to reach the mask. Heather inspects the paintings and frowns.
    "Just more of their dumb saints and... well, they're no angels I've ever... no angels most people have ever seen."

    Spike begins poking around for hidden items.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:24 No.16995273
    Don't forget the incense.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:24 No.16995277
    >I lost my first post when I accidentally hit some buttons I shouldn't have.

    Yeah, this is why you use google docs or something. There's no real way to lose your shit then by changing page, even if your computer crashes it'll be there.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:30 No.16995314
    Have Data upload the images to ANON. If they're the biblical angels from the Old Testament then we're in some shit.

    Grab a candle and light it, if possible. Fire is a useful tool in many puzzles, in addition to the fact that a Candle might have relevance to Silent Hill. Some of the worship stuff is probably useless but you never know; adventure game logic.

    Check the Statuettes for anything that looks familiar.

    Have Data scan for hidden items, and have Heather trust her instinct on where plot items are located. Open every drawers and every closets; never know if there's a red envelope or a healing orb or Achievent Points or something.

    Oh, and yes. The lighting crooks might be useful for the red mask or the prison book.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)21:35 No.16995359
    "Whoa..." Spike says, withdrawing a slim red vial from behind one of the paintings. "What's this?"

    ((Sorry for the erratic posting, but I'm periodically having to get up and check on holiday things tonight.))
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:36 No.16995373
    No idea.
    Heather, what is it.
    Data, scan it, tell us what it is.
    ANON, review Data's scan and tell us what it is.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:36 No.16995378
    "Mr. Data, please scan the liquid with your tricorder. ANON, analysis please.
    "Ms. Mason, does the liquid look familiar to you?"

    Is this a healing potion?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:39 No.16995397
    Get readin' lads.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:42 No.16995429
    It exorcises demons.

    If we're going up against anything from Shin Megami Tensei in Japan (includes the Persona series), that shit is likely to be a one hit kill.

    It might also be of use in Castlevania, since Dracula has demons under his employ.

    I've never played a game in Ravenloft. Are creatures from the lower planes common there?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:43 No.16995441
    Hmm...with a full molecular analysis by the tricorder, perhaps we can see if we can replicate it onboard our ships.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)21:46 No.16995461
         File1322016379.jpg-(26 KB, 602x452, AI1.jpg)
    26 KB
    ANON: "Working... They do not appear to be analogous."
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:47 No.16995471

    That's either blood, the smallest vial of cherry-flavored high fructose corn syrup, or we've come across some anti-demon possession juice (Aglaophotis).

    As suggested earlier, have Data scan its molecular structure if he can. According to the SH wiki, it was produced by the cultists artificially; there's no reason why we can't replicate it if we manage to get its molecular structure.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)21:49 No.16995480
    "It appears to be a mixture primarily composed of the herb aglaophotis, but it has been prepared in an extremely unusual manner. My tricorder cannot fully analyze it, but it is radiating energy in several spectrums," Data states.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:50 No.16995492
    Might just be decorative pictures then. Sometimes not everything is plot relevant.
    Good plan. ... If we can replicate this shit, we can use it against Chaos in all the warhammer worlds, as bug spray for Demons. Daemon possession? Not any more!

    So: Grab the Crook, Grab a lit Candle, grab some of the religious sundries because of Adventure Game Logic, upload pictures of the Statuettes and Pictures to ANON for later analysis in case they prove to be more than decorations, analyse the Red Stuff, Click on the observer, and leave the room.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:54 No.16995521
    Should have known that Silent Hill wouldn't give up its secrets so easily.

    And we don't have a Federation science vessel, which might have the facilities necessary to fully replicate this stuff.

    "Very well, Mr. Data. Please send all readings to the Storm. I'm sure Dr. Spengler and the other scientists will welcome more research material."

    So, make sure we grab some incense as well, and then let's try using the incense on Alessa's statue and seeing if we can get the Red Mask off with the candle lighter.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)21:55 No.16995530
    You do so. Data uploads his tricorder readings to the Storm as you leave.

    >Research Topic unlocked: Aglaophotis
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)21:58 No.16995550
    >Research Topic unlocked: Aglaophotis

    We should probably put Egon and the scientists we had allocated for Psi Defense research onto this subject for now.
    Do others think we should put the Offensive Reality Emitter research on hold, in order to put the full weight of our X-COM research staff onto the Aglaophotis Project?
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)21:59 No.16995562
    Spike lights some incense in front of Alessa, but nothing seems to happen.

    Data uses the crook to extend his reach. Though it is a close thing, his android reflexes win out, and he manages to use it to snag the Red Mask. The item falls to the floor and is picked up.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:00 No.16995573
    Use CROOK on BOOK in the PRISON to hopefully drag the BOOK close enough to acquire.
    Use CROOK on the STATUE to hopefully acquire MASK.
    Use RELIGIOUS SUNDRIES with OFFERING BOWL to possibly lower the MASK
    If neither CROOK nor SUNDRIES can acquire MASK, then Data can lift Spike, Heather, or Heather's bum to try to grab the MASK that way. Probably won't work.

    We should continue to research Offensive Reality Emitters, since Defensive got us gellar fields and magic defense. Offensive might allow us to smite demons and magic users.
    Aglaophotis is TOTALLY #2 on the research list, though.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:01 No.16995583
    Can BOOK be reached with CROOK in the PRISON?
    Place MASK on STATUE OF DATA, in order to cover its eyes.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)22:04 No.16995619
    rolled 89 = 89

    Data reaches through the bars with the crook and tries to snag the book...
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:06 No.16995630
    Read book, Put mask on statue. This leaves 2 doors unexplored.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)22:07 No.16995642
    And succeeds!

    Data drags the book to him, then picks it up. It is a red book, with the title stamped on it, "Crimson Ceremony."
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:08 No.16995646
    Indeed. We need to take care of that vial.
    Good find Spike.

    Except for the research. Looking into a ways to expel demons and such seems like it would should be a major research goal at the moment.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:09 No.16995650
    >Crimson Ceremony.
    Get readin' lads.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:09 No.16995651
    Data is to read through the book first, given his speed at reading. Then have Douglas and Heather read the book, since they might be more familiar with its contents.

    Once done, go and put the Red Mask on the Statue of Data.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:11 No.16995666
    You can read the entire book yourself in under 2 minutes at the wiki link. It's a prayer to the Fog. It's needed to revive James Sunderland's dead wife.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:15 No.16995703
    AND might revive Lal. Let's hope that Data never played the Silent Hill games.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:16 No.16995707
    That's not the entire book, that was an important blurb. Book is much larger.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)22:25 No.16995796
    Data reads through the book, reporting it appears to concern itself with myths and ceremonies concerning the beings and themes mentioned in the first and titular poem, "Crimson Ceremony."

    Heather places the mask over the statue of Data and it shines for a moment with ruby light. Nothing further seems to happen.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:27 No.16995808
    "Hmm...it probably unlocked some other area of the chapel.
    "Perhaps we should finish this wing by exploring the last door?"

    Search the far right door of the 3-door hallway. Is the Probe Droid able to follow?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:29 No.16995828
    Lal might be beyond Silent Hill's reach.
    Harry on the other hand..

    Dangerous forces though.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:29 No.16995832
    Seems reasonable. Final door of the 3-door hallway go.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:32 No.16995855
    ...Is Julia also out of reach?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:41 No.16995949
    Actually... Isn't reviving Lal something that is within -our- reach?
    Like can't we just get a new body constructed, and this time base the neural net off Data's current one (that's modified with the emotion chip to prevent a second error) and then transfer Lal's memories and experiences to that body?
    I mean... even if androids do have souls, I'm pretty sure Data downloaded Lal's.

    Like, am I missing something?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:44 No.16995974
    We don't have the machinery to manufacture Androids. We'll need to wait for the Antaeus to get back, along with a workshop and some X-com staff.
    Plus, it takes a REALLY LONG TIME to figure out how to make an android. You know Intel's processors? Takes 100 engineers 2 years to design one. You know Androids? They're, like, 1000 processors. Even Tony Motherfucking Stark would take at least 3 months to build one.

    It may be within our power, but not our time constraints.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:47 No.16996011

    Data's positronic brain takes a master level roboticist to design/create. I don't think we have the facilities to even attempt something like this. Plus the whole "downloading your dead daughter's brain into a machine that has an even high probability of exploding than the first one" seems counterproductive.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:49 No.16996030
    That's not what he means. He could, theoretically, use the exact same submicron matrix transfer technology he used the first time, this time using his current positronic brain with the emotion chip as a basis.
    Interesting idea.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:49 No.16996032
    But wasn't Data able to create Lal in a manner of weeks, months at most?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:53 No.16996069
    So what if we can remake Lal?
    Why would we want to?
    If it ends up dieing/being destroyed, wouldn't that be counter productive with regards to data?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:54 No.16996074
    There are interesting moral implications to consider.
    Just not time considerations.

    No designing. he basically photocopied his own brain. Which given how his brain reacted to strong emotions, what happened to Lal without the chip makes perfect sense.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:54 No.16996079

    Hmm. So the puzzle is one step closer to being solved.

    Now we just need to find an object that could act as earplugs or somesuch. Let's search the far right door in the hallway.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:54 No.16996081
    However, he had at his disposal the engineering workshops and replicators of a Galaxy-class Cruiser, the flagship of the Federation and boasting its best equipment.

    Even with an Antaeus cruiser's Creation Engine, we'll be hard-pressed to come up with facilities that can rival the Enterprise.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:55 No.16996083

    The real question is would Data even try it after facing his regrets in Silent Hill? The whole point was that he moved past his guilt for not being able to save his daughter. Trying to revive her with a very high chance of failure seems like a step backward.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:57 No.16996108
         File1322020632.jpg-(10 KB, 205x245, lal..jpg)
    10 KB
    Well, I suppose you need someone to manage your future-technology empire. The extra talents will prove useful. Still, I'd prefer Zakharov to him, considering our complete lack of ethics, and our desire to solve things in every manner OTHER than democratic voting.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 11/22/11(Tue)22:58 No.16996119
    But d'oh, I should've seen that one coming.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:59 No.16996121

    Don't let that bastard fool you. For a 'peacekeeper', he's a bloodthirsty son of a bitch, second only to Sister Miriam
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)22:59 No.16996129
         File1322020792.png-(88 KB, 282x359, 1296230714428.png)
    88 KB
    Okay, I admit, I laughed a little.

    And it would make sense, too, considering we have University of Planet Singularity Lasers on the Oncoming Storm.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:00 No.16996131
    Wait, why would it have a very high chance of failure?
    And yeah, I'm not saying we should try immediately, or even soon. We probably need more SCIENCE on our side first.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:00 No.16996137

    Only if you're a human rights violating piss-pot like Yang or Miriam.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:01 No.16996141

    Come to think of it Sister Miriam would make for an awesome villain later on.

    >dedyearc worshipfull

    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)23:01 No.16996145
    Your team opens the third door to reveal a long hallway with tall stained glass windows along the right side depicting demonic, fleshless hounds pouncing on twisted, ugly looking figures, tearing them apart with vicious fangs and fiery breath. A door lies at the end of the hall, on the left side.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:02 No.16996151

    I tended to main Zahkarov or whats-her-name of the Spartans. He'd declare war, every time. Usually by making a totally unreasonable 'request' like asking for my capital city or something, to which I would inevitably refuse.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:04 No.16996165
    ...Oh joy.
    Cross the hallway while hugging the left side of the wall and keeping your eyes on the windows. Either the dogs are going to jump out, or there's something that's going to break through the windows from outside probably.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:04 No.16996167
    Oh man. This is so predictable.
    "Please make your way towards the door at the end of the hallway.
    "And judging from Silent Hill's past actions, I think you can expect the hounds to leap out of the stained glass, or something to come through them. Be on your guard, gentlemen and lady."
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:04 No.16996169

    You made your politics a Police State 9 times out of 10, I bet.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:05 No.16996170
    Well, given how we believe the failure occurred, that chance of failure is much lower now.

    You, I, but.. The phrase 'Nigga, you best be joking' come to mind.
    We have Federation replicators plus a major science and development lab manned by a massive team of researchers.
    And a Creation Engine makes that look like small potatoes.

    The only question here is 'should', not 'could'.
    All in all, probably not, unless her memories get insistent about it now that he's faced them.
    It wouldn't really be Lal, it would be something similar with copies of the memories Data is carrying around.
    I don't think it would be healthy.

    Now, if he wanted to have another child instead, that's a different matter, and one for Data to consider himself. He made the last one in his spare time, he doesn't need our help. I'm certainly not ordering him to do it or not.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:05 No.16996176
         File1322021150.jpg-(170 KB, 640x480, SH1Doghouse.jpg)
    170 KB
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:07 No.16996189
    We may have the science facilities, but the replicators on the Indefatigable are a far cry from the engineering workshops of the Enterprise.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:08 No.16996200
    Hm, I wonder if we should start taking care of that other door all the way by the entrance. We've been on this side for awhile.
    What do folks think, continue or check the other path?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:09 No.16996208
    Continue. If there's a puzzle we don't have a key for, then we'll double back.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:10 No.16996214

    Weapons ready, start proceeding down the hall.

    Advise the Away Team: Be ready to handle leaping fleshless dogs or some variation thereof. As mentioned before, they're probably going to come in through the windows or through one or both of the doors. In addition, be ready for said hounds or other hostiles in places that all of you have already explored.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:10 No.16996216
    >It wouldn't really be Lal, it would be something similar with copies of the memories Data is carrying around.

    While ordinarily I would agree with you, Lal's a robot. She doesn't have a soul. What Data downloaded should in theory be the sum totality of her existence.
    Hell, check this: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/B-4
    >Data willingly copied all of his memories to B-4, hoping that the added experiences would help B-4 to expand beyond his original programming.
    >Geordi La Forge installed Data's emotion chip into B-4's neural net. This caused the uploads to B-4 by Data to fully reactivate, allowing Data's full memory and personality to assert itself, essentially resurrecting him. Starfleet decided to reinstate the android to service, and by the time of Countdown Data had become captain of the USS Enterprise-E.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:10 No.16996217

    Nope, tended toward democracy. Higher-than-average military expenditure, and heavy focus on secret projects (Dat hunter-seeker algorithm) as well as staying about ten years minimum ahead of everyone else technologically. I think he just felt threatened, really. I've noticed he gets aggressive if you seem too powerful.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)23:10 No.16996221
    rolled 73 = 73


    Your team walks through the hallway and sure enough, fleshless demonic hounds crash through the windows, roaring and salivating. But the team was ready...
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:12 No.16996232

    To be fair, this is purely my opinion and nothing more. I am just thinking of the facilities we currently have access to. As has been mentioned several times, this will require high-end tech from Star Trek. That is hax we can barely afford in small doses. Trying to do it in other conditions will just increase the likelihood that it will not give the desired result. We can rectify this with time/victories/aggressive magpies, but there still the issue that it will be challenging at best. Not to mention the fact I really don't know if we should or not. This would have to be put to Data for him to think on and get back to us. I don't feel we should push it on him. ESPECIALLY NOW AFTER HE JUST SAW A REPRESENTATION OF HIS DAUGHTER BECOME A LOVECRAFTIAN BORG HYBRID. Maybe after the mission, we can present the idea to him.

    On the meta side of the argument, it will come down to the /TG/ dice lords smiling upon the whole process. And we all know how well that tends to go, especially on something that will break an android's artificial heart if it fails.

    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:12 No.16996234
    Destroy them.
    Also is Heather still afraid of dogs?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:13 No.16996240
         File1322021637.png-(32 KB, 599x359, morgan3.png)
    32 KB
    No, we should go with Morgan Industries.
    Transpace guard likes small bases. Morgan has small bases (-3 pop limit)
    Transpace guard is out of money. Morgan makes money.
    Transpace guard employees must spend their time learning plots from various forms of entertainment. Morgan's drones and workers spend their free time consuming mass media.
    Transpace guard prefers infiltration actions to direct combat. So does Morgan.

    In short:

    Get off my land you peacekeeping son of a-
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:14 No.16996247

    Ah, yes, that makes sense. Do you play on a higher difficulty too, because that definitely has an effect on other factions' aggressiveness.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:14 No.16996249
    Data just used his own little workshop, which doubled as mausoleum for his daughter, mother, and brother. Creepy.
    There has never been a Federation 'engineering workshop', there is Engineering, where they deal with ship functions, and the various Science departments.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:15 No.16996254
    Well yeah, I wasn't actually going to mention it to Data any time soon. And not until we maxed out our science facilities.
    Although you do have a point about the Accursed Dice Lords, who would doubtless relish in Data's despair.
    ...Yeah I'm fine with tabling this for now.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)23:16 No.16996264
    The dogs never had a chance. They are mowed down by forewarned, heavily armed, stalwart souls in short order.

    Spike reaches the end of the hall and opens the door. Within is a stone vault of a chamber, with large decorative bas-reliefs and engravings of rolling mists and fog. A worked stone dais is at the center, on which stands a carved pedestal shaped like four robed maidens outstretching their hand to the heavens. On that pedestal is a large bottle of milky white liquid.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:18 No.16996273
    That shouldn't even be on there, that belongs on Memory Beta.
    Unlike Star Wars, Star Trek does not canonize or concern itself with licensed materials, sadly.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:18 No.16996274
    2 of 4 items needed to revive James Sutherland's wife: OBTAINED.
    Also, my Miniboss Senses are tingling. The instant we touch that item, the door will lock, and something will attack.

    We should keep on the lookout for a Black Goblet and any other books. Since we've explored one wing of the church, the other items are possibly in the other wing - but we'll nonetheless need to be careful.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:19 No.16996280
    Carefully enter, and have Data acquire the bottle and scan it. Be ready for a possible battle, such as the statues coming to life, or something crashing through the walls.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:20 No.16996296
    Anything horrible on the ceiling?
    Spike is to attempt to retrieve the bottle, whilst everyone else presses a gun against those statues, in case they feel like coming to life.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:22 No.16996302
    Have Data scan the bottle and tell us what he detects. If its not visibly trapped, have him pick it up.

    The others stand back, weapons out and at the ready. Spike can keep his eye on the door while Heather and her bum cover Data.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:23 No.16996313
    Actually, there is an Engineering Laboratory.
    That might be their term for a workshop.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:27 No.16996344
    Actually, I appologize. I see that was made canonical for the STO timeline, so I guess it is kosher. Though I don't thing he'd ever be as good with that prototype brain.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:29 No.16996354
    You know what else wasn't visibly trapped?
    The coin.
    You know what that coin did?
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:31 No.16996375
    Hm, which seems to be be just a study lab.
    In any event, we can say our large all-purpose meta science laboratory is at least as capable and discuss it no more while we are exploring Silent Hill.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:33 No.16996386

    Good point. Let's not touch any other object ever again.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:33 No.16996393
    This line of reasoning is sound and I agree with your result entirely.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:34 No.16996397
    Yeah, boobytraps and triggers in Silent Hill have no basis in physical mechanics.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)23:38 No.16996418
         File1322023088.jpg-(2 KB, 150x150, WhiteChrism.jpg)
    2 KB
    Data's scans does not reveal anything out of the ordinary about the object. When Spike reaches out to take it though, a loud gunshot echoes through the chamber. A young man, dressed in a hoodie and jeans stumbles through the door to the chamber. He clutches his side, which oozes with blood and looks around, desperately. Finally his eyes lock onto Doug's.

    "Dad... help! They shot me!! They shot me!!!" he babbles. Doug is white as a sheet, still as a board.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:40 No.16996439
    Here come Doug's regrets. His son tried a bank robbery and died. I don't know the entire story, but Doug's about to face his past, and then we'll probably have a Bossfight
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:41 No.16996445
    Oh shit, boss-fight time!

    "Mr. Data, please scan the new person immediately!
    "Mr. Spiegel, please pocket the bottle and find some cover. I suspect that the young man is not all that he appears to be.
    "Mr. Cartland, this is the likeness of your son, isn't it."
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:42 No.16996451

    I haven't played Silent Hill. Is this kid supposed to be alive at this point in the timeline?

    If not, he's one of the illusion/monster things. Kill him before he can fuck with Doug's head any more.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:42 No.16996458
    Oh -sure- Silent Hill. Doug's statue gets replaced by Spike, but we still need to confront his tragic past?

    ...And I've got nothing here.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:42 No.16996462
    Slap heathers bum

    - if he doesn't nap out of it
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:44 No.16996472
    ...It's possible that by administering medical attention we might be able to avoid a boss fight. I mean Maria was a construct of Silent Hill, yet she didn't turn hostile until the very end.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:44 No.16996473
    No, Doug has to face his past and his regrets. It's the only way that Silent Hill will allow progression.
    We're within its reality now; we can't just depend upon firepower to see us through. We have to play its game.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:44 No.16996475
    One does not simply Kill into repressed memories and unresolved regrets. That only makes them stronger.
    My greatest regret thus far this quest is not making a "Heather's Bum just got grabbed" joke during the Lal bossfight when Douglas got picked up by the tentacle.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:47 No.16996489
    Yeah, but do we even have the tools on hand to save a man from a Gunshot wound?
    Those things are fatal. Either the hydrostatic shock fucks your internal organs, or you bleed out, or the bullet poisons you, or the fact that there's a hole torn through your insides means that something vital inside you isn't there any more.
    >> OP 11/22/11(Tue)23:48 No.16996507
    "Subject appears to be a caucasian male human in his late teenage years," Data reports. "No anomalies detected, save for the bullet wound in his side."

    Doug does not respond, staring at his son as he staggers towards him, crying.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:48 No.16996512
    We had the tools to resurrect Doug from the dead didn't we?
    Eh whatever.
    Spike and Data should hang back for now. This is between Doug, Heather, and that thing that's pretending to be Doug's son.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:50 No.16996533
         File1322023839.png-(314 KB, 634x403, DouglasInjured.png)
    314 KB
    Don't worry, I remember someone made that joke, so we're good.

    He's quite dead, that's why he's Douglas' regret.

    Thinking about it, their relationship was probably similar to the cop father and robber kid in The Booth at the End.
    Let's see if we can work out a better end.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:50 No.16996537
    Heather, provide moral support immediately.
    This guy doesn't seem as obviously artificial as 'Lal' was. Which makes it that much harder to deal with.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:53 No.16996562
    Actually, that's a good point.

    Mr. Data, move to apply medical attention. Be watchful of dangerous changes, and the doorway he came through.
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:53 No.16996564
    We, the players, and we, the command staff of the Oncoming Storm, know that this is just another illusion by Silent Hill.
    But as long as Silent Hill has a hold on the away team, we have to play by Silent Hill's rules.

    "Mr. Data, please see if you can apply emergency first aid with your medkit. Federation medical science is, after all, quite a bit more advanced than the local technology."
    >> Anonymous 11/22/11(Tue)23:59 No.16996621
    Why don't we just fill Doug in on the nature of Silent Hill and Alessa becoming a psychosensitive genius locus thingy. If he knows its not real, its unlikely to bug him.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:02 No.16996650
    He probably already knows. Doesn't make his traumas any less real, even if the images Silent Hill uses to remind him of them are fake.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:03 No.16996665
    He already knows that.
    This ain't his first time to this particular rodeo.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:05 No.16996679
    I'm suprised that Silent Hill is being so blunt. Usually it's not until the Endgame/Nowhere when this stuff happens. OP I am dissapoint.
    But anyway, you know the drill. Data, prep the RED and mealies, and get ready to fight.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:07 No.16996701
    It could also be Silent Hill pulling out the big guns early because it knows that the small-time stuff won't slow us down.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:07 No.16996702

    I suppose.

    I guess I'm just having trouble imagining myself being very disturbed by these reminders, given the circumstances. Regardless of what personal traumas I have, knowing that these images are just some genius locus trying to fuck with me would stop me from being too distraught.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:09 No.16996718

    This is just one chapter of the quest. I would not expect OP to make up a full length Silent Hill game for it.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:10 No.16996729
    We're in the end game area, Cathedral of Order. Besides, we have four people worth of issues and whatever Horror SUE is at the heart of this mess, so we've got a lot to work through.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:11 No.16996731
    Go to any hub of Erotic Roleplaying for an hour, then tell me that fiction can't utterly wreck your sanity. Or hell, read some horrible fan fiction, and remember why you work for the Transpace Guard.

    But you're correct. A person without any significant traumas walks in one side of Silent Hill and out the other, tripping over a dog or a chansaw dude along the way.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:13 No.16996756
    Also, remember that Douglas and Heather have been fighting monsters for the last two months since the world went to hell. So they've had a lot of build up.
    We just gave them enough back up to power right for the where the church used to be finally.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:14 No.16996765
    While this is going on, the EMH is researching Zombies in Pennsylvania, Darius is talking to survivors at a villiage near the castles from Ravenloft and Castlevania, a Probe is looking for Peabody's expedition and Elder things in Antarctica, and there's a massive swirling hurricane over Japan that we don't know what to do with yet because we can't see it.

    We don't know if any of the world's cities are intact, but there's talk of heading to London, Atlanta or Sydney to see if we can talk to the survivors in those cities and find out more information on what's going wrong. We haven't sent anyone, but we probably should.

    At least, I hope it's happening simultaneously - if it's sequential, that's 2 to 4 more hours in every region, and another day or more in which this entire sector slides further and further into shit.

    For now, Silent Hill.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:17 No.16996780
    Yeah, the fucked up thing about Silent Hill is the concept that, outside of the Fog World and Otherworld, there is comparatively regular town with people living in it that are largely unaware of the horrors sharing their geography.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:20 No.16996813
    And Egon is working with our sensors too.

    Which reminds me, I think we still haven't heard anything about what the probe headed for the England mist spot found.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:21 No.16996822
    The zombie research and the Antarctica probe are happening simultaneously.

    Sending Darius was supposed to wait until we could see if the transporters would work in Castlevania/Ravenloft, before sending them down in a dropship or Al'Kesh.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)00:22 No.16996832
    rolled 46 = 46

    Yeah, I know it's not usually this quick, but you guys went right for the throat. That plus doing a proper buildup would be a quest in itself.

    "I will try to administer aid. Mr. Cartland, please stand clear," Data says, bringing out his medkit.

    "Son..." Douglas says, hoarsely. His hands begin to tremble as he slowly seems to regain awareness.

    "Don't suppose this will help?" Spike asks, hefting one of the two nanny-bags he carted down with him.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:22 No.16996833

    Perhaps elder gods and eldritch horrors can also become frustrated by weird puzzle shit.

    If I were an unknowable evil entity, I know I wouldn't want to be standing around for 5 hours waiting for my the chosen one/vessel of my rebirth to solve a riddle based on an obscure poem in iambic pentameter.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:24 No.16996852
    "Probably not, Mr. Spiegel. The nanny-bags are meant for people who are moments away from death, or even those who are clinically dead but not information dead. It's the difference between Mostly Dead and All Dead. And the boy here does not appear to be in either category."
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:27 No.16996876
    I believe Darius and such is also going down at this time. Transporting from orbit was deemed too risky. We hadn't tested using the shuttle transporters within the atmosphere yet.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:29 No.16996887
    >you guys went right for the throat
    You successfully instilled a sense of urgency upon us.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:32 No.16996917
    Heh, that would fuck with Silent Hill.
    Saving the manifestation of Douglas' son might avoid a boss battle.
    Or, you know, the Greys could beam us up and slap our shit for exploiting the Meta.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:34 No.16996927
    (So Doug can't hear)
    Spike: Silent Hill makes holograms of a person's regrets and fears. Doug already lost his son to a shooting, this is just Silent Hill trying to fuck with him.

    Ah, so we're dealing with the Transport issues in Transylvania and other world population centers BEFORE committing any people there. Makes sense.

    Once Silent Hill's over, we'll see if we can depart the fog. If we can, we should probably go check if CNN and the BBC are operational to any degree, and check out the closest major city to the Japan clusterfuck that we can reach (Sapporo / Seoul / Beijing). No doubt any surviving person on this planet is as interested in finding out what the fuck's going on as we are.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:37 No.16996955

    Going off of this, I move we try and deduce what Silent Hill's worst fear is and try to bring that to it. Just to troll it.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:40 No.16996978
    > I move we try and deduce what Silent Hill's worst fear is and try to bring that to it.
    Loneliness. We bring that fear to it, by bringing it nothing.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)00:42 No.16996992
    rolled 24 = 24


    "Ah well," he says, putting the bag down.

    Data frowns. "I am trying my best, but I am losing him."

    "Dad..." the wounded youth moans.

    "Thief!" another voice rings out as a trio of officers in full body gear with tinted riot masks bursts into the room. Without waiting for a reply, they strafe Douglas' son with automatic fire. Both Douglas and his son let out a pained scream as this happens. The three officers move up to surround the body, guns raised at the away team.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:43 No.16997001
    Think about the Maria ending though.
    It might be possible for it to work out.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:45 No.16997016
    Step back, restrain Douglas so he doesn't charge the police and get shot. Spike, Heather, and Data should cluster around Heather's Bum and grab him to make sure he doesn't do something stupid.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:47 No.16997033
    "Sigh...Well, Mr. Spiegel, it appears we may be needing to use a nanny-bag after all. Make sure that Ms. Mason is safe, though.
    "Mr. Data, please interpose yourself between Mr. Cartland and the intruders."

    So, should we say we're Internal Affairs, we got everything on tape, and we'll have their badges for how they bungled this arrest?
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:48 No.16997042

    Actually, Heather herself is a Silent Hill construct that managed to become independent and human. So yes, some of its creations can leave the town and take on a life of its own.


    You know, if we get Egon, Tosh, and the other psychics working on it, perhaps there's a way we can communicate with Alessa and work out an alliance. She synthesizes creatures for us, we provide her with company.

    She's probably too insane at this point to even communicate with, but its worth a shot.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:48 No.16997047

    Damn. Overzealous cops kill him.. if that's representative of what happened, that's one more stab against Douglas as an ex-cop.

    Alright, let's try to take these trigger-happy figments down.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:50 No.16997059

    Yes, we should do this.

    Failing that, tell them that they're a bunch of demons wearing cop uniforms and that they should stop pretending to be cops.

    Failing that, we should let Doug have his moment of personal introspection and growth, then fight the cops when they turn into monsters.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:52 No.16997063
    There are many ways in which this could be a completely horrible idea, foremost of which being this place is a reality distortion that we must eliminate as part of our job, and second being that YOU ARE TRYING TO FORM AN ALLIANCE WITH AN ENTITY WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO FEED OFF YOUR PAIN.
    This is reasonable and I agree with this.
    Wait to see how the cops react to the Internal Affairs line first. I know this is going to be a bossfight, but I don't know if the Cops are the boss, the Son is the boss, or if the boss is going to be something else entirely.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)00:59 No.16997116
    Heather is Alessa, and at this point should be the only version around after Silent Hill 3.
    And trying to barter with Silent Hill is a terrible idea on more levels than I can count.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:00 No.16997118

    >foremost of which being this place is a reality distortion that we must eliminate as part of our job

    Only if this wasn't a Silent Hill canon to begin with. We don't know which horrors are native to this world and which ones aren't, yet.


    We already did that with the Orz. It hasn't come back to bite us yet.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:01 No.16997126
    >It hasn't come back to bite us yet.
    Emphasis on 'yet'.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:08 No.16997182

    The thing is, the Orz appeared to be the manifestation of an entity that appears to be more curious and less malevolent than Silent Hill. Kind of like an extradimensional being that saw us and said "Oh hey that's kind of neat."

    Whoever or whatever is behind Silent Hill will settle for no less than our destruction or complete and utter insanity. It's incomprehensible and unknowable in a very bad way.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:10 No.16997199

    Ah. I've just been reading the wiki, since I have yet to play these games. I was under the impression that Alessa's spirit was at least partly in control of the otherworld, but that she isn't sane enough to deal with except in special circumstances.

    If there's something else in control of Silent Hill, then forget it.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:11 No.16997201
    The Orz don't give two shits about causing pain, and we tried to interact wtih them as little as possible, and even then our alliance was a bit of a dubious idea.
    Silent Hill, on the other hand, invokes shit-tons of pain, and interacts strongly with people. It is a pretty bad idea.

    To give you an example:
    There's a difference between "Install an A.I. on your ship" and "Install SHODAN on your ship". There is also a difference between "Throw cyborgs at shit you want blown up" and "Have in-depth philosophical discussions with Mendicant Bias".
    Namely, having a A.I.-run Cyborg vat has a chance of going Hal 9000 on you, but also a chance that it won't. Having a "SHODAN and Mendicant" psychiatry clinic has a chance of causing both you, and everything you love, going Hal 9000 on yourself.

    About the Orz thing not completely biting us on the ass yet:
    I half suspect they've bumped into Durandal in the depths of space somewhere, and we are now right fucked.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)01:15 No.16997232
    "They killed him! They killed my boy!" Douglas howls as Heather and Spike grab him.

    "He was already dead, Doug!" Heather insists. "You know that!"

    "Buddy, you don't gun down someone lying still and bleeding on the floor. We're going to have your badges for this," Spike says. "We're Internal Affairs, and you just screwed over your career."

    The SWAT officers remain oddly silent, but keep their guns trained forward, making no further move.

    "Commencing with-" Data begins to say as he prepares to put the youth into the bag. He is interrupted as the SWAT trio turns and riddles the nanny bag with gunfire, ruining it. Data lets the ruined device drop. "...nothing."
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:17 No.16997237
    We've got Bigger shields, Bigger guns, 3 people who are trained in gunfights, and an ex-cop. Bring it, son.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:19 No.16997249

    I'm almost half-tempted to go ahead and vaporize those SH-Swat Team grunts for destroying a nanny-bag.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:23 No.16997284
    "Ahem. Mr. Data, Mr. Spiegel, if you would be so kind as to take Ms. Mason and Mr. Cartland behind cover.
    "Mr. Cartland. They are not real. Your son was not really here. And while I sound dispassionate and unfeeling, please understand that I am doing my level best to bring everyone out of this alive, and for that to happen, you need to face your past."
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:24 No.16997287
    Well, toss the nannybag in the other nannybag, if nothing else than for ease of carrying.

    Ok, so fiddling with the body is out. Talking is out. Considering that they haven't turned hostile yet, I guess this is Douglas' place to face his son's death.
    Just, be careful, please.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:24 No.16997288

    But, as tempting as this may be, this is Douglas' moment to confront his inner demons. Be ready to spring into action and shield Douglas (if his shield system was damaged from the fight with the Un-Lal), and dispose of the obviously fake/demonic SWAT team.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:28 No.16997318
    Dispassion won't help her. He has to face his regrets.

    You know, as much as Silent Hill makes people face their inner demons, it has some glimmer of positive hidden in it's folds of completely fucked up.
    Well, besides people's own fears, most of the fucked-up-ness is really tied to the Order's crazy god and it's minions.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)01:31 No.16997342
    Douglas is quiet for a moment, his hands balled into fists at his side.
    "I... know that..." he manages to say. "...but... you don't understand. It doesn't matter that I know that! He was there again, and again I couldn't do anything... I killed him again..."
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:37 No.16997386
    "No you didn't, Mr. Cartland. Mr. Data tried all that he could, but he wasn't going to make it. You didn't kill your son, Mr. Cartland. His choices did. And while you tried to help, sometimes it isn't enough.
    "You did what you could, Mr. Cartland. But it was your son who chose his path."
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:38 No.16997396

    I have the feeling that anything we say will have a marginal effect on him. While we were able to help out Data, that's because we had extensive knowledge of his past and was able to come up with a reasonably fast solution to his anguish.

    I think Heather might be better qualified than we are for talking Doug out of his grief. Even if we prompted him, we'd just be a stranger. It might be more powerful coming from Heather.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:39 No.16997405

    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:40 No.16997410
    That's true. But that doesn't mean we can't help.
    So we could combine >>16997386
    with some prompting from Heather. They've been through tough shit before, and it will likely be more powerful coming from her.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:43 No.16997431
    My Autism is maximum and I cannot into NPC. Someone else will have to handle this.

    If nobody else is handling this, then:
    "This is true. Your son was killed, and as his father, you had a lot of influence in the way he lived his life. At the time, there was no way that you could have known that your son would die like this, and no way you could have prevented it.
    You loved your son - which is why you regret his death. You didn't want him dead, and if it was within your power to stop his death, you'd do it.
    A Different person, with Different choices, might have changed this. But you are not a different person. You are Douglas Cartland, P.I., and you have to make do with limited knowledge like everyone else.
    The things that have happened in the past, your regrets, you could not possibly have stopped. You can learn from them, and stop more mistakes in future, but you'll never stop every single bad thing from happening to everyone.
    There will always be mistakes you've made, which you regret, and that you've learned from. But you've learned all you can from what you've seen here, and all you'll gain from staying in these thoughts is pain.
    Let the memory go, and let the past be laid to rest."
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:49 No.16997481
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:50 No.16997483

    Gently prompt Heather. She's likely talked about this with Doug at some point in time; she can contribute much more to this conversation than we can.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)01:50 No.16997490
    rolled 26 = 26

    "Listen to them, Doug," Heather says, putting her hand on the detective's shoulder. "You can beat yourself up all you like, but that doesn't mean you're responsible. You don't seem like a bad dad at all. And I'm a pretty good judge of dads."

    Douglas pauses...
    ((2 rolls incoming.))
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)01:51 No.16997501
    rolled 94 = 94

    Heather's words don't seem to comfort Douglas much, but he thinks on the words of the command crew...
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:52 No.16997512

    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:53 No.16997523
         File1322031231.jpg-(21 KB, 338x409, Inspiring Command.jpg)
    21 KB
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:54 No.16997526
    By the power of Autism, let your fears be broken and your heart be healed.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:57 No.16997551
         File1322031471.jpg-(17 KB, 255x417, PC-NamelessOne.jpg)
    17 KB

    >You have gained 65000 Experience Points.

    >Douglas: Strength Increase; Wisdom Increase; Intelligence Increase

    >Oncoming Storm Commander: Level up.

    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:59 No.16997567
    things are looking up now, but we still need to keep an eye out. We may have a mini-bossfight coming up
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:00 No.16997573

    In before Doug blows away the demons with the power of his comeback and we skip the boss fight totally.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:00 No.16997578
    We may have helped Douglas, but now we might need to fight the SH-SWAT as the boss-fight.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)02:03 No.16997603
         File1322031833.png-(287 KB, 633x383, DouglasMall.png)
    287 KB
    "You're right..." Douglas murmurs. "I know you're right. But... it's hard to forgive myself. It's hard not to wonder what misstep I took, HE took..." Douglas pauses. "But dwelling on it isn't helping anyone. The pain's not going to go away... and maybe it shouldn't. But I'd be an even worse man if I lived in the past all my life."

    Douglas looks down and cradles the body of his son in his arms. "Goodbye, Ben. I'll always miss you. I'll always remember you. But killing myself isn't going to bring you back to life."

    The SWAT troopers suddenly turn and fire their submachineguns into each other, shredding their chests apart before they fall to the ground, their helmet visors shattering as they strike the stone floor. Past shards of shattered plastic, you see that all three have Douglas Cartland's face.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:03 No.16997605
    The SWAT team should not pose much of a problem, if the team keeps there cool.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:04 No.16997616
    guess i was right
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:05 No.16997631
         File1322031951.gif-(12 KB, 119x200, 1205472735641.gif)
    12 KB
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:07 No.16997643

    Doug managed to confront his demons and overcame his torment.

    And did so without triggering a boss fight.

    Hooray for Heather's bum!
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:08 No.16997659
    As one famous Federation captain said, "I need my pain!".

    "Everyone feeling okay to continue? Mr. Cartland? Ms. Mason?
    "Mr. Data, if you could please take point."

    Okay, looks like we'll be going back to the antechamber, and this time, taking the left door.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:09 No.16997672
    Let Douglas have his moment, pull the doug-swats away from him and the son.
    Quietly check to see if there is anything useful on them.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:10 No.16997680
    Oh right!
    This was supposed to be a boss-fight! There should be a plot-item or puzzle key!
    Check the bodies of the SWAT-Cartlands.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:11 No.16997690

    Wait to see if the SWAT officers become horrible flesh babies that shoot bullets. If they do, ventilate them. If they don't, back to the main chamber and go through the left door.

    It's 2am now. We're progressing well in Silent Hill. I'm not sure what the Bonus Dungeon will be after we deal with everyone's fears and get the 4 Plot Coupons™, but we'll no doubt reach it next session.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:13 No.16997703
    Good point. Loot the bodies of the SWAT members.
    And, out of Douglas's line of sight, check his Son's body too. It may be a bit of a jerk move to do so, but knowing Silent Fucking Hill, he's got a key in his pocket or something.
    And you know Silent Fucking Hill.
    Shit gets rusty.
    All doors are locked.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:26 No.16997792
    Probably nothing to actually 'loot' here, outside of clues or quest items.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:28 No.16997806
    >Probably nothing to actually 'loot' here, outside of clues or quest items.
    That's just fine. Plot items and puzzle keys are what we're after.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:28 No.16997809
    The quest item that we're meant to loot was probably the white phial anyway, but we might be able to get a Mask from one of the SWAT officers for the final statue.

    Lots of SWAT officers wear Earmuffs for indoor assaults because gunshots in indoor areas can deafen you. If one is wearing Earmuffs, then that's what we put on Spike's statue.

    Then there's the obvious - keys, occult items, books. The usual.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)02:28 No.16997810
    As everyone takes a moment to collect themselves, Data leads them out the door. Spike lingers to search the bodies. He finds an old-style Sony walkman in the son's coat pouch, but nothing else.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:30 No.16997817


    ...So... whos up for some insanity points?
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:30 No.16997819
    >Sony Walkman
    Let's return back to the statue room, and have Spike place the earbuds of the Walkman onto his statue.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:30 No.16997825
    Turn that shit on, it'll warn us of incoming monsters.
    Is there any way to link the Walkman's output directly to a computer-based recording device? Data or ANON might find patterns in the static beyond the usual monster alerts. We might be able to use it as a direction-finder.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:31 No.16997827

    Sony Walkman complete with headphones, I hope.

    If this is the case, we may have found the last piece of the statue puzzle.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)02:33 No.16997837
    Your team returns to the statue room and places the earbuds in Spike's ears. The sound of shattering stone cracks the still air, but the statues do not look different.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:35 No.16997856
    Hmm...have Data look over the machinery in this room again, to see if anything's changed on the instruments.

    Then I think it's time to check the left door from the antechamber with the water basins.
    Make sure that the Probe Droid is following from the real world.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:36 No.16997861

    Check on the Alessa statue. Along the way, see if any of the locked doors from before have opened or if there are any rifts in the wall/floor/ceiling that may have opened up.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:37 No.16997869
    Check Alessa's statue to see if it's still intact.
    It's possible that another path has opened up in the other rooms. Give them a quick check to ensure no "There Was a Wall here. It's Gone now" has happened.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:39 No.16997874
    Good points. Let's check the statue.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:43 No.16997895
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:51 No.16997944
    There's a whole side of the cathedral we haven't looked at yet.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:53 No.16997949
    This is true, and I expect it's where we go to next. Still, doesn't hurt to check if a secret room with a treasure chest opened up somewhere.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)02:57 No.16997970
    When you return to the main hall, you find that the statue of Alessa has a faint crimson aura around it, and that it is riddled with spiderweb cracks.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:59 No.16997981
    Hit it with something solid.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:59 No.16997987
    That looks worrisome.
    Let's check on the other antechamber door.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:05 No.16998007


    I have a feeling that our progress here is helping to release something bad. Or otherwise forcing its hand. Better keep that vial of Aglaophotis we have safe and sound.
    >> Shattered Golem 11/23/11(Wed)03:08 No.16998024
    I'm always pro douse it in fire, just in case.
    >> OP 11/23/11(Wed)03:13 No.16998068
    And this is where we must call it a night.


    On FRIDAY, AT 7PM!
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:16 No.16998083
    Roger that.

    Wonder if we get any Bonus Content on what would've happened if we sent different people down to Silent Hill.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:17 No.16998096
         File1322036278.jpg-(51 KB, 768x614, map1.jpg)
    51 KB
    Have a good night, and a good Thanksgiving (if applicable)!

    Edited other anon's map a little.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:30 No.16998164
    We didn't hug Heathers bum?

    I am disappoint.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)04:09 No.16998363

    As we've been requesting it nonstop for several threads, I suspect so.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)09:55 No.16999622
    Okay, so items for next session:
    Analyze Alessa's statue via tricorder.
    We've already tried incense so it must be something else we need to put into the offering bowl.
    Explore the west wing of the chapel by going through the left door back in the antechamber.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)12:54 No.17000716
    >items for next session

    More bum-related puns.
    >> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)15:54 No.17001736
    Haven't we grabbed and held Heather's bum enough? I mean, we were all over her bum in the previous boss-fight, and this time Heather's bum had the spotlight.

    Delete Post [File Only]
    Style [Yotsuba | Yotsuba B | Futaba | Burichan]