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    22 KB Help My M&M DC Campaign Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)01:40 No.16903100  
    Sup, /tg/. I could have asked /co/ for help with this, I guess, but have you BEEN there? It's all ponies and fap threads.
    Going to run M&M 3 for some friends. I have selected my group carefully, only people with some degree of familiarity need apply, so I've got the right audience.
    My players will be playing neophyte super heroes, operating under the watchful eye of the JSA or JLA, seeking the approval and regard of their more established counterparts. Think Young Justice (the TV series) without the Sidekick angle.
    I've decided to open think up with a storyline revolving around one of my favorite villains, the Joker.
    I'll post what I've worked up so far, and I'd like any of you /tg/ dwelling comic nerds to help me brainstorm.

    Thanks in advance. Infodump follows.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)01:42 No.16903112
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    “The state of politics in America is shameful. It's like everyone has gone crazy!"

    In an attempt to ride the cresting wave of dissatisfaction among America voters and to take control of a new political movement, one of the major political parties backed an independent candidate without really checking that candidate out as well as they probably should have.

    The funneled millions of dollars of out of state money in to private accounts (not technically legal, but who cares? it’s politics!) to fund the campaign of one “Jack Napier”, a conservative firebrand known for his reclusive nature and overwhelming web presence. His political website, which lambastes both parties, has made him a indie favorite in Gotham politics. He was a third tier candidate at best, and nobody paid much attention to him, but when scandals rocked the campaigns of both the front runners for the mayoral seat a week before election day (one arrested for producing child pornography, and the other for the murder of his wife), Jack Napier suddenly became the only legitimate candidate. He won by a landslide.
    And his first act as Mayor was to pardon himself out of Arkham Asylum.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)01:43 No.16903119
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    The Joker, running under the name Jack Napier (the legal name given to him by the criminal justice system), had gotten himself elected Mayor of Gotham.
    “I kept hearing about how crazy politics had gotten, so I figured, why not throw my hat in?”
    Joker released most of the the prisoners from Arkham and Blackgate on a new ‘work release initiative’, in other words, you can get out if you agree to work for the Joker. His gang quickly took control of City Hall, and Joker used his legal authority to fire Commisioner Gordon after it became clear that he wouldn’t play ball.
    Worst of all, everything the Joker has done is legal. There are court cases pending against his campaign, but the Gotham City Charter had been so thoroughly swiss-cheesed by corrupt politicians over the last two decades that nothing the Joker has done up until now has been against the law. And until he does break the law, he is the legal Mayor of Gotham.
    Of course, that doesn’t mean that Joker’s ‘staff’ have been innocent of any crimes…
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)01:45 No.16903128
    So that's the setup.
    inb4 somebody tries to point out how a mass murder couldn't get elected, or how it's illegal, whatever. I KNOW. It's a comic book plot. Shaddap.

    tl;dr. The Joker is Mayor of Gotham, Free and Legal.

    Wat do?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)01:52 No.16903164
    Well there are now a lot of different views and opinions in this work release program about what the best way to use resources are. Maybe instead of internally picking which proposed plan there is the mayor could insist that the public vote for what they want to have happen. In other words the people will be picking what major crimes and what not the work release villians will be committing upon them.

    You vote for what crime you want committed on yourself.
    >> ClubMeSoftly !vjX/b/51.s 11/10/11(Thu)01:53 No.16903168
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    So, this, basically. (Except in this case, he was running for governor, and threatened death to anyone who didn't vote for him)

    Still, very interesting. So your 4th Line Leaguers are, what? Attempting to unseat Mayor Joker? Because my first plan would be to evac civvies, followed by a total quarantine.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)01:53 No.16903169
    he would disband the police force and replace them with released criminals, obviously. Probably a bunch of sick jokes played on the populous, maybe a fake bomb scare or something.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)01:53 No.16903174

    Neato, OP. Good show.

    Question: What's Batman doing? More importantly, what are the Joker's activities post-mayor? Meaning, aside from running the city, has he broken the law? Or has anyone under him broken the law?
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)01:55 No.16903192
    I figure the Joker'll probably hire some Blackwater clone to come in and 'keep the peace in Gotham', since the cops won't work for him. Guy's a maniac after all.
    It'll be all downhill from there, as a few weeks go by, the Joker still hasn't commited any crimes that can be directly traced to him... there have been some 'scandals' by members of his administration, but Joker himself, and his inner circle are biding their time... mostly just to drive Batman up a fucking wall.
    At the same time, Joker PMC Jackboots are turning Gotham in to a police state, (the irony of which is not lost on Joker), and impose a 10pm curfew. Violators will be shot. This further restricts Batman's movements.

    As for Joker's endgame... I don't have one. Hell, he probably doesn't either. That's kind of how he rolls, after all. Brilliant up front plan, but if the Batman doesn't show up to kick his ass, he kind of runs out of material.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)01:57 No.16903213
    Yeah, 4th string heroes. No where near the resources or pull of the JLA or anything, so it'll probably turn in to a 'guerilla crime fighting' campaign until the story wraps up.

    I'm hoping to have this run for four or five weeks worth of sessions, then move on to something a little less cerebral... like beating up Starro'd JLA members I hate.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)01:58 No.16903218
    And yeah, I did a google search for "Mayor Joker", and got no hits.
    I thought it was weird that in all the years Batman's been running, no one thought this plot up until now.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)01:58 No.16903220

    "You know how this is going to go Joker."
    "Of course Bats, the biggest punchline of all, no matter how many times you lock me up, no matter how many others escape from arkham, no matter how much you try to clean these streets up, no one else will help you. I can't stop laughing about it."
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)01:59 No.16903231

    To continue with my question >>16903174, the Joker breaking EVERYONE out of Blackgate and Arkham legally sounds somewhat like the beginning of Knightfall. Is the Joker running Batman ragged?

    Also, have you asked /co/ yet? Not sure how my/our fellow /co/mmrades would take it, probably start a shitstorm, but it's a thought.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)02:03 No.16903254
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    I like the idea of Joker calling for ballots on weird shit.
    Like "LEGALIZE IT!", except, in this case, "IT" is sulfuric acid.
    "Why lock people away just for splashing a little harmless acid in someone's face? We should legalize it, and tax it!"

    One of the nice things about doing a campaign like this, as opposed to actually writing a comic, is I can get away with shit that DC would never do.
    I have an idea for a prominant religious movement that thinks of Superman as not only the Last Son of Krypton, but as the Last Son of God. If DC did that story, it'd be resolved in a month, and would end with Superman calmly explaining the religious whackos how wrong they were. In my game? That's not gonna end SHIT. Because you can't reason with crazy.

    ...but that's a whole other thread.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)02:07 No.16903285
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    Like I mentioned in the top post, I hesitate to ask /co/. It's pretty nuts over there. Figured I'd get more constructive plot ideas out of gamers than comic nerds. This board is about interactive mediums, /co/ is about passive ones.

    And yes, Joker is doing all of this to fuck with Batman. Isn't he always? Staying out of trouble himself, drawing out the legal challenges to his office, he'll be able to stay in office for MONTHS like that, and Batman knows it.

    At the same time, he convinces/intimidates the Arkham and Blackgate boards to release plenty of prisoners who have no right being on the street. Both institutions become revolving doors.

    Maybe he'll even try to give Harvy Dent his old job as DA back? Dent might even accept... of course, Two Face and Joker don't get along... I guess it'll come down to a coin flip.
    >> Dr. Zombie 11/10/11(Thu)02:13 No.16903332
    Alright, we KNOW that Candidates A and B are not dedicated psychopaths/child molesters. Clearing their name and showing that Joker did that could be an interesting side plot I suppose.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:13 No.16903337
    Do we know that?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:16 No.16903349
    The joker is probably going to be pushing a sort of "Government as a form of mass hysteria," angle.

    "Listen! You here that? Those are teachers, mothers, hard working joes, real salt of the earth people with families and nine to five jobs. And they're all baying for blood! My blood your blood it doesn't matter just as long somebodies being torn apart by the mob. Yesterday they were law abiding citizens, more the willing to let their neighbors be dragged through the streets by jackbooted thugs in the name of order.
    And tonight?
    Frenzied anarchists the lot of them! All it took was one bad day of no power, bad water, and bridge closings, and Gotham is tearing itself apart. The best part? I don't even have to lift a finger! They're all doing it themselves.
    You see kiddies? Uncle Joker has done Gotham a favor. I've helped everyone wake up from a bad dream!"
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:16 No.16903357
    Considering that this is Gotham, I wouldn't be so sure...
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:18 No.16903365
    I dunno because Marvel is superior
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:18 No.16903371

    I'd suggest Riddler as well; he's an arrogant bastard and doesn't really like worrying anyone, unless he's trying to make a game out of this, letting Batman do his thing and taking advantage of the chaos. Not sure others in his Rogue's Gallery might take to this. Probably'll enjoy it, especially Scarecrow and Penguin (though Penguin wouldn't like working for Joker either).

    Given that the Joker is likely to strong arm people into thing, it wouldn't be a bad idea for the PCs to eavesdrop on him, as well as protect the civilians of Gotham, maybe under the name of Wayne Interprises or something akin to that. Joker's government wouldn't take kindly to that. But there's got to be a way to out Joker eventually, that goes without saying.

    Zsasz should be head of Human Resources. Just a thought.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)02:20 No.16903380
    I like you, anon.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:22 No.16903397
    I can definitely see this becoming one of his greatest lasting jokes. Two-face gets criminals off that Joker needs to run his enterprise, and for useless criminals to keep Dent lookin' good, he lets ol' Harve throw the book at'em, appear 'tough on crime,' and make people go "holy batarangs I don't care that we know Joker is trolling us with this, HE IS STILL THE BEST MAYOR WE'VE HAD SINCE THE '60S!!!"
    After all, if he kills EVERYONE he has no one to prank. All of Gotham is now 'safe' to a point because they have become a second less intelligent Batman to Joker. They will take every bomb threat, every smilex gas leak scare, completely seriously, because with someone like Joker, you just can't tell if srs.

    Also it would finally be a goddamn chance for Ivy to go truly straight. There is too much snapback for Ivy. This part of Batman feels too Simpsonian. She 'learns' to use her intelligence and powers for good and then some retarded contrived event makes her go back to her old self (like when she was running a greenhouse-slash-orphanage)
    Maybe if she spends an entire arc doing non-smilex related medical research she can break out of this rut, like how Catwoman basically steals to get her husbando to show up, not because she needs the money.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:23 No.16903403
    So are the PCs gonna be like the Outsiders then?

    Also, I love the idea of the Joker basically turning Gotham into Arkham writ large. I wonder what Harley is up too...

    And the rest of the Batfamily as well. Batman has an extensive network of allies to call on, remember, including the Outsiders (which is why I think the PCs should be them), Batwoman, the Robins past and present, Oracle, The Question, Huntress, hell even Superman if things go too far south.

    If things go from bad to worse, this could end up becoming No Man's Land all over again.

    Possibly the Penguin is going to come out as the main man for law and order, and possibly even the greatest source of opposition. Firstly because he can't let the ruffians run wild over the city the Cobblepots built, and second without Batman's protection and the rule of law suspended, all the various super criminals and mob bosses he helped Batman and the police catch through his greymarket information are going to be after his tail feathers.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)02:25 No.16903420
    I figure Harley will be Joker's executive secretary.
    She'll probably also run the office twitter feed, which I can easily see being hilarious material.

    Good thought about Penguin... I'm gonna use that.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:26 No.16903432
    I dunno if Eddie would go for hitching his wagon to the Joker. one because of pride, two because people think HE is trying to copy the Clown Prince of Crime which just frustrates him to no end, and third because the Joker's crazy yo.

    Could he possibly be in his Private Detective phase?

    Oh what about the Gotham Sirens? Catwoman, Ivy, and Harley?
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)02:30 No.16903466
    I figure Harley will be working for the Joker, Ivy will be off on one of her manic plant mother streaks, and Catwoman will be... stealing shit and flirting with batman, probably. Maybe working with the bat and friends to take down joker.

    Oh, shit. I was just thinking "I wonder what Blask Mask would do", when I remember Jason Goddamn Todd.

    He wouldn't be able to stand it. He's going to HAVE to try to kill the Joker, and Batman's gonna have to stop him.

    ...man, DC should hire my ass.
    This is a hell of a lot better than Omega Beams and God Bullets.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:32 No.16903482
    >Omega Beams and God Bullets.
    Er, what? Educate this fellow.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:34 No.16903493
    Keep these in mind for flavor:
    Gotham is built around the site of a failed Satanic ritual which summoned a metaphorical hunter-killer chronovirus that becomes Gotham. Like, it's a genius locus. It's built on the site an Indian graveyard, a Lazarus pit, and the den of a Cthulhu-type that's been sleeping for the past 40,000. It was chosen as the Anti-Bethlehem by the Religion of Evil. It was the site of the filming of Batman and Robin.
    It's pretty well cursed.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:34 No.16903494
    DC has a tendency to just take whatever their characters to and bump it up to 11 when they feel like they need more.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:34 No.16903496
    Final Crisis.
    Batman killed Darksied with a 'God Bullet' McGuffin, and got shot with Omega Beams and 'killed'/sent back in time.

    ...it was pretty fucking terrible.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:34 No.16903500
    Actually the First Church of The Last Son Of Krypton has appeared in DC before, as part of Millars The Dark Knight Strikes Again (batmite was one of the leading founders).
    And there was a church that worshipped Supergirl in the Main continuity as well.

    Or was it superwoman? Can't remember.

    At any rate be careful to not let it turn into a cluster fuck.

    Though, now I'm wondering how Rupert Thorne would react to all this....
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:36 No.16903510
    Omega beams are finder-beams for the Omega effect, which is Darkseid's "fuck you I do what I want" power.
    The God-bullet is bullet. All of them. Platonic, essence of bullet.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:36 No.16903512
    Also doesn't Intergang think that Kathy Cane (Batwoman) is a religious figure?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:37 No.16903526
    I can imagine the Joker sponsoring all sorts of city Beautification projects. Possibly involving painting buildings green, black, and white. And constructing more circuses.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:38 No.16903530

    Black Mask would do what Black Mask does. Get real angry and torture some people. But no, seriously? Sionis working with Todd? Genius!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:38 No.16903531
    Remember he's the Joker. He's super sane! That gives you free license to break the fourth wall when appropriate
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:38 No.16903535
    "You know, the Romans had a saying about how to keep the population of a city under control... bread and circuses! ...well, I think we've got the circus bit down. HAHA!"
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:40 No.16903544
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)02:46 No.16903586
    My group likes to joke about how the economy of Gotham is entirely supported by a combination of empty real estate and themed costume rental businesses.

    Like, there's an episode of Batman TAS, it's the Mad Hatter origin episode, where Jervis goes from disgruntled employee to having henchmen in a walrus and carpenter costume within the space of like 40 minutes.

    Hilarious, when you think about him driving past a costume store on his way to do whatever, and going "LIGHTBULB!"
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:50 No.16903607
    The common mob bosses would probably help out too. Mafia guys tend to actually be quite humourless, or if they do possess a funnybone, it's the anti-thesis of Joker's, they can't take anything done at their expense, like Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. They would want to stop Joker's prank spree eventually.

    forgot that. Yeah citizens would love him for this too probably. All except the goths. FINALLY GOTHAM ISN'T DRAB BROWN AND GREY EVERYWHERE HOLY DAMN

    Also with 'legal crimes' going unpunished, I imagine Clayface is going to be trolling as hard as the Joker. Only he will call it 'acting' instead. Oh also I think Firefly would be on Joker's payroll, both to not burn down his beautification projects and to burn down shoddy looking buildings. This could be a nice way to put Ivy against him, as firefly goes out of control and starts wiping out blocks, and the parks within them.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:53 No.16903623
    Oh God, Jervis. I can see it now. He's fresh out of Arkham, in shiny with age suit, a somewhat nonplussed but nonetheless happy expression on his face as he steps off the bus, holding his hat in his hands.

    This time he'll do it. This time for sure. No more tea, no more madness. He's going to make a fresh start of it, and gosh darnit that brute Batman will never have reason to lay fingers on him again.

    And then the Joker roles his version of the Obama "Yes We Can" poster down from the tallest buildings in the city, and the sound of zany music comes over public megaphones.

    Tetch sighs, his shoulders slumped as he reaches into his pocket, and rummages for a moment before producing a bottle of medication, which he then over his shoulder with a dejected air.

    Maybe next week....
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)02:57 No.16903636
    I'd think that the regular Non themed crime bosses would be more worried about this then anything else. They're facing either submitting to the joker (which is bad), or facing him as an enemy with the weight of the government behind him (which is worse...marginally)
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)03:01 No.16903647
    Lots of great ideas in this thread.
    Thanks, /tg/, you've really come through for me.
    I've got more ideas for sideplots than I know what to do with now!
    I'll try to get a read of my group, make sure to involve their favorite villains in the antics.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:04 No.16903665
    The question you're going to have to ask is: what's stopping Batman's more higher level allies from coming in and slapping shit?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:06 No.16903680
    Required theme music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83ajlhY94U0&feature=related
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:08 No.16903687
    There's actually a specific gal who does all the supervillians lairs.

    Jenna Duffy AKA the carpenter. She's not exactly a super vilan per se, but she tangles with them a lot to know what her clientele expects in a deathtrap

    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)03:09 No.16903694
    Same things as ever.
    Superman's a total moral fag, so he's gonna be too busy whinging about how legal everything is while Batman runs deep cover operations against Mayor Joker.
    Wonder Woman? Hahaha, oh, you were serious.
    What about the rest of the JLA, you ask?
    Green Lantern is probably going to be off fighting some giant turqoiuse space octopus that is made of concentrated ennui.
    Martian Manhunter could be helpful, I guess, but then again, Firebug.
    The Outsiders are busy being a younger, edgier Justice League.
    And the rest of the DC Universe seems to have given up on Gotham anyway. It's like Sudan, but in America. "Hey, did you hear about Gotham? Apparently an Earthquake happened, so they reverse-annexed the whole place and it's not even part of the country anymore." "Wow, that's fucked up. Let's go get tacos."

    Mayor Joker is pretty much gonna be the Bat-clan's problem. But with Joker in charge, they're going to have to play things stealthier than ever. Staying undercover, going underground (literally, once the PMC snipers hit the rooftops looking for anything with a bat on it), and playing it smart rather than hard.
    Oracle will be an invaluable resource.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)03:10 No.16903702
    There's also "The Broker", who just specialized in supervillain real estate.
    I don't think he really NEEDS to work outside Gotham at all... plenty of market right there!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:12 No.16903712
    Actually that whole tear up the bridges and declare the land to no longer be part of the United states territory is part of the Federal procedure established by FEMA and other agencies in the case of a major infectious disease outbreak.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:12 No.16903715
    Did you read the par tin Demilitarized zone where superman tired to save the day? Yeah, its always like that, the more super you are in gotham the less effective in swaying the public. Shits fucked yo.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:13 No.16903722
    When did outsiders go back to being kids? What happend to my favorite yellow skinned wacky man?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:15 No.16903724
    What the fucking is whinging supposed to mean?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:15 No.16903726
    Batman is too proud (and has too extensive a network of allies) to call in the JLA anyway until shit really hits the fan.

    Also, you gonna include Cassandra Cain, right? Stephanie Brown? Other recent additions to the Batfamily like Damien Wayne?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:17 No.16903731
    I think the Outsiders have a rotating roster. Also, the Creeper fuck I'm having nostalgia flashback
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:20 No.16903747
    Hey, I admit that WW doesn't have the same consistent back story and exposure that the other members of the Trinity do, but I still like her.

    She's one of the most underused characters in the DCU imo, right after Martian Manhunter

    Also, somewhere in all this madness, Rhas Ah Ghul is steepling his fingers and whispering "Just as planned."
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)03:21 No.16903750
    Dude, c'mon.

    Hm. Wasn't planning on having Cassie in... Barbara will always be Batgirl in my heart of hearts. Steph Brown... maybe. MAYBE.
    I wasn't planning on doing anything with Damien, because if I do, I'd have to deal with the whole "Batman died/went back in time and then Dick was Batman and now he's not" stuff... and it makes my head bleed.

    I think I'll go with Tim Drake as Robin, because I'm probably the only person at the table who would even know who Damien IS.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)03:24 No.16903761
    Hmmm. I could see Ra's being involved as, a) financially backing the Joker's election in secret to finally push Batman to killing the damn clown, or b) stepping in and saying "Ok, look, I know I said I'd leave Gotham alone, BUT LOOK AT THIS MESS. I'm killing everyone with so much as a parking ticket on their record."

    Or both.

    ...yeah, that'll be good.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:25 No.16903767
    So basically you mean whine, but for some godforsaken reason decided to use a cringeworthy word instead of a normal one.

    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:27 No.16903774
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    Or you could go with the "No You Can't" one from Megamind
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:30 No.16903783
    Which version of the Joker are you gonna do?

    BTAS is easily the most iconic in my own opinion
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)03:31 No.16903795
    You're just upset I made you learn a new vocabulary word.

    Mark Hamil joker, all the way. With some sprinklings of some of the better comic writers thrown in... Killing Joke, etc.

    Haven't seen that... elaborate?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:36 No.16903811
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    Alright. Work on that laugh buddy boy.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:38 No.16903819
    Bane should be called in at some point, if only to BREAK THE BAT.

    Remember that he's a genius level intellect and strategist first, and bruiser second.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:40 No.16903825
    Alright, you could skip that whole complicated final crisis shpeel by saying "Damian is the son of Bruce by Talia," and leaving it at that, but I understand if you don't want to get involved in the continuity snarl.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)03:46 No.16903843
    Yeah, I think that's for the best. I'd include Damien in some fashion, but nobody in my gaming group but me has read a Batman comics since RIP... and frankly, I didn't last long after that. There'd be no point, and I'm gonna have enough NPCs to juggle as is.

    Never was a huge fan of Bane, and I can honestly say I've NEVER seen or read anything where he comes off as a genius. I know that's on his stat sheet and all, but seriously... never seen the proof.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)03:47 No.16903851
    Oh, don't get me wrong, Bane's going in somewhere, but he's probably going in less as "Brilliant South American Crimelord" and more like "Superstrong Guy in a Lucadore Mask"
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:48 No.16903858
    You haven't read Knightfall?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:49 No.16903860
    What about Knightfall? That was pretty much his introductory thing right there.

    Also secret six/suicide squad
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:50 No.16903872
    Well, they do know Batsy has a weird moral code. They could weasel a get-out-of-jail-for-anything-but-murder/rape-card from him and Gordon if it meant stopping Joker. Also they know how to back them into a corner.
    "Sure you could take out the Joker by yourself...the question is how high do you want the death count to be before he's back in the looney bin with the rest of these crazies?"
    Classic Joker cannot resist the Smilex. Everyone knows it will hit sooner or later. Hardcore Joker (TDK and that one selftitle with Johnny Frost) would be actively taking them out already, because no matter how much loyalty he bought he'd know they wanted him gone because he 'wasn't the same kind of criminal they were.'

    although I have a British background and spell/speak only queen's English and always make a point to ask where the fucking biscuits are in a restaurant so I can explain what I meant and complain some more...this is one place I will side with the Yankees.

    Must say I'm loving the Ra's connection we suddenly got going here. Yes, can see this working well. He may even go so far as to offer Joker a second chance at life if he can get himself killed, just to finally 'break the bat' his way. (I seem to recall one version of Joker did kill himself just to have one last laugh at batman)
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)03:51 No.16903881
    Admittedly, it's been a loooong time.
    I recall him being talked up a bit, showed up, did his "MY NAME IS HUGE" bit, broke Batman, then got his butt kicked by Azrael a few issues later.

    Honestly, I remember thinking at the time that Batman might as well have been hit by a random drunk driver for all the sense it made.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:53 No.16903883
    That's because Bane's entire motivation and shit is in a miniseries separate from the main Bat-titles.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)03:56 No.16903896
    He was doing stuff behind the scenes a few issues before that. Helping everyone escape from Arkham, hiring Deadshot to go after Gordon, beefing people up with Venom, etc.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)04:03 No.16903915
    Are you the super villain Earl Grey?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)04:04 No.16903921
    You realize this will all turn out as you becoming THAT DM that sets up his DMPC (the Bat-family) as the ones who actually do all the important work. Though considering their popularity you could probably get away with people just nerding out and watching Batman beat up the Joker for them.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)04:06 No.16903925
    Is this online? Is there space?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)04:10 No.16903935
    I think there are enough Villans around so that the Batfamily and the PCs won't overshadow each other
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)04:11 No.16903936
    Oh, no, my friend.
    I wont' DMPC anyone... not even the Batman.
    He'll show up, do one or two awesome things, maybe pull someone's ass out of a fire if they manage to fuck up too bad, and then screw off to do "more important things".

    By the end, I figure the Wayne Foundation will have had a substantial hand in unseating the Joker politically somehow.

    I'm also toying with the idea of having a final confrontation with the Joker and a bunch of goons, and having Joker and the Batman both "die" in an explosion, ala Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty. Thus removing the shadow of the bat from my player's shoulders.

    Hell, if I really want to, I could contrive a way for them to both fall in to a waterfall to their certain dooms.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)04:45 No.16904090
    Sorry, not online.
    So, steal this idea, run it yourself.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)04:50 No.16904124
    >“Jack Napier”, a conservative firebrand known for his reclusive nature and overwhelming web presence. His political website, which lambastes both parties, has made him a indie favorite in Gotham politics.

    Stopped reading
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)04:53 No.16904139
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    Well, thanks for stopping by to let us know how much you don't care.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)04:57 No.16904156

    Fine, I'll humor you.

    The Joker is not an anarchist. He is not a serial killer. He is not Batman's gay lover; at best, he has an interest in Batman's nature and that's about it. If the Joker were ever elected in to Gotham politics, especially as a leader, he would be doing it to get wealthy and retain this power. He wouldn't need to set Arkham free, since everyone in there is a fucking lunatic who can't be trusted with a metal spoon let alone any political sway, and if anything he would try to lock up every other designated Batman bad guy just so he could keep at the top. That's not to say he wouldn't stir things up just for shits and giggles; maybe he would let some prisoners go free just so his goons can shoot them. But he really doesn't need to do much to the already-corrupt political atmosphere of Gotham City to control it. Most of them will do whatever he says so long as they don't stick out as a sore thumb. Nobody is crazy enough to catch the attention of the Joker except Batman.

    So there. You have to rewrite this shit or it's dumb nu-Batman that nobody except /co/ likes.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)04:59 No.16904162

    The Joker has always been a gangster concerned with profit, yes, but he's also been crazy and a cold hearted killer. Like, going back to his original appearance back in the 40's
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:01 No.16904175
    This thread was linked to /co/.
    And the /co/ thread is the perfect example of why /co/ wasn't asked in the first place. So much passive aggressiveness. So little ability to talk about anything other than fetishes and ponies.

    /co/ doesn't even understand the genres it is supposed to encapsulate! Realism and strict laws (of physics and man) in a fantastic medium? Of course Joker would get to be Mayor, Lex Luthor was President!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:02 No.16904177
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    I've read, and re-read what you posted there four times.

    I have no idea what you're trying to say, other than "Nu uh, the Joker is like this".
    Except the Joker HAS been portrayed as an anarchist, and HAS been portrayed as a serial killer... and neither of those seem to be what OP is portraying him as anyway.

    ...so, trolling? If so, 3/10. Best I can do.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:02 No.16904178
    >he's also been crazy and a cold hearted killer

    Yes, he's crazy and cold-hearted. But again, he is not a serial killer nor is he stupid.

    He will do crazy things to a point where he is entertained, but things like letting insane asylums run his cabinet are not something he'll risk. They're more likely to yell at the staplers and push down their cubicle walls than anything productive, which is why he'd keep all the pre-existing politicians (or at least the ones who won't try to question him, those guys are getting whacked.)
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:03 No.16904186
    >Except the Joker HAS been portrayed as an anarchist, and HAS been portrayed as a serial killer

    In nu-Batman shit. You know, the poorly-written garbage where he does things like kill people for the sake of high schooler-level nihilism and have his own face surgically removed?

    The Joker is a criminal, and he's also a leader. He's out for money and power above all else, with as many jokes as he can possibly fit in to his schemes. Screwing with Batman plays an important role, but not a huge one. Mass murder SHOULD play little, but like I said, Batman now is poorly written tripe.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:05 No.16904190

    >I didn't read the thread, but this is all wrong and I'll tell you why.

    OP stated that most of the bat villains would be off doing their own thing, except maybe Harley and Two-Face. He didn't say anything about having inmates run Joker's cabinet.
    Did you just stop by because this got cross-posted to /co/, and OP said he didn't think he'd get anything constructive out of you?

    If so, good job proving him wrong.
    You can stop posting any time now.
    >> Painful Elegy 11/10/11(Thu)05:05 No.16904191

    >Never read the Killing Joke
    >Never read Emperor Joker

    It's not just Nu-Batman.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:06 No.16904193
    >Alan Moore

    Yes it is.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:08 No.16904206
    Go back to /co/
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:08 No.16904207
    >He didn't say anything about having inmates run Joker's cabinet.

    >Joker released most of the the prisoners from Arkham and Blackgate on a new ‘work release initiative’, in other words, you can get out if you agree to work for the Joker.

    Good one, Prometheus.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:09 No.16904214
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    >post thread on /co/ asking for input
    >be mad when input is given and you don't agree with it

    What's wrong? Baby upset because I poked holes in his minimal knowledge of even the most famous comic book characters? Next you'll call me a troll.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:10 No.16904216
    I figured he meant "work for the Joker" as in "go out and be a criminal scumbag and do what he says".
    Not "trade in your orange jumpsuit for a tie and be a bureaucrat".

    Why would you assume that?
    >> Painful Elegy 11/10/11(Thu)05:10 No.16904221

    >Implying Moore is a bad batman writer.

    This kind of Joker has been around since the 70s. This is just you going 'Not my Joker' the same way Grimbat fans will do the same with BatB batman.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:10 No.16904222
    >he is not a serial killer
    Do you even understand the words you type?
    Are you some kind of bot, or perhaps a non-human primate who has somehow gained access to the internet?

    A serial killer is a person who has killed 3 or more people over a period of time that is greater than one month. That over a month part is the important part, it's what separates a serial killer from a simple mass murderer.

    The joker has killed how many dozens, if not hundreds, of people over the years with his patented* brand of humor?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:10 No.16904225
    Actually the OP didn't post it on /co/ I did, which I am beginning to regret.

    Come on /co/mrade, can't we be sociable?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:11 No.16904226

    Because "work for the Joker" can imply this. Why are you blaming me for OP's vagueness and shallow writing? If these sorts of misunderstandings can happen, and they aren't intentional, it isn't a very good story.
    >> Painful Elegy 11/10/11(Thu)05:12 No.16904234

    Work for the joker sounds like it's referring to them as a lackey more than it implies being a cabinet member.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:12 No.16904236
    >can't we be sociable?
    >can't we all mindlessly nod our heads and agree with things without criticizing them?

    Yeah, I guess so. I forgot we're on /tg/, they don't allow independent thought here.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:14 No.16904250
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    >OP's entire post goes on about the Joker delving in to the political realm rather than the criminal realm
    >assuming making people "work for him" implies criminal intent rather than political intent

    Why would the Joker let people out to be criminals? What purpose could they possibly serve? If anything, them being crazy and stupid would ruin his apparent attempt at a police state, as OP mentioned. It makes way more sense to keep them in the asylum and let them rot than anything. Hell, if anything the Joker would probably try to throw innocent people in to the asylum.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:14 No.16904251
    Aw man, don't be like that.

    It's alright to disagree, but be polite, alright? Just common courtesy is all we're asking for
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:15 No.16904256
    Counting all his interpretations? Roughly 40,000 to 50,000 people.

    His greatest instances mass killings were over 7,000 people killed by neurotoxin and 2,000 people by driving a truck through downtown sidewalks crowded with christmass shoppers.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)05:16 No.16904264
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    Hey, guise, what's going on in this threa...

    Well, anyway, /co/ friend, I don't completely disagree with your reading of the Joker... he is, after all, the Clown Prince of Crime. And I think if you gave my plot outline a once over, you'd see that.
    I'd be interested to hear what you think a good Joker story is, since you don't seem to care for Alan Moore... recommended reading? That is, if you aren't just arguing to argue.
    But, you seem to be here just to be mad, so... good luck with that.

    You've certainly changed my opinion of your home board.

    I've been mulling things over in a vaccum for a bit, so I'll post some of my ideas in a moment after the flames calm down.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:16 No.16904269
    I'll let you in on a secret: This is supposed to be for a game. Therefore a level of vagueness and intentional misleading is a requirement, or else the plot hooks will be boring and predictable.
    >> Painful Elegy 11/10/11(Thu)05:17 No.16904271

    Being a lackey does not make you a gangster or criminal. Bane put on street patrol, make penguin a banker, dent's now a prosecutor, all of them working to do what the joker wants of them, that's what it implies.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:17 No.16904275

    >drawing out the legal challenges to his office

    >legal challenges

    >Serial Killer whose broken out of Arkham more times than people can recall
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:18 No.16904282
    >the joker
    >making sense
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:18 No.16904283
    >boohoo, /co/ told me my story idea was bad, all of /co/ is bad and they're just mad and they dont know anything and they're trolling and

    Yeah, whatever dude. I'm not even from /co/. I was just browsing it, saw the thread was about writing and decided to examine it. I was sorely disappointed, and now I'm a troll because I hurt your marshmallow cotton-candy feelings.

    I really don't give a fuck. Your story is bad. It needs revising. Maybe you should stop being a pussy and consider this.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)05:19 No.16904290

    I thought I made this clear: Politics IS crime.
    That's the joke.

    And this is all a means to an end. The real goal is to drive Batman up a wall, as I've said more than once.

    >Hell, if anything the Joker would probably try to throw innocent people in to the asylum.

    That's actually a good idea.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:20 No.16904294
    Fellow /co/mrade linked to this thread here and while I really am grateful to you for linking it because it is an awesome concept you really shouldnt have considering the hundreds of troll threads we have regarding Joker. Shits worse than ponys at this point.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:22 No.16904302
    >The real goal is to drive Batman up a wall

    This is the main problem with the people writing the Joker.

    Stop making everything he does revolve around fucking Batman. For the Joker, it was always made quite clear that the Joker takes an interest in Batman's psyche but would just as quickly kill his ass if he turned out to be a real menace. The only time the Joker would care so deeply about affecting Batman is if Batman was a direct threat to his operation, not because he wants to plunge his dick in to his butt.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:22 No.16904303
    >I'm not even from /co/. I was just browsing it, saw the thread was about writing and decided to examine it.

    >saw the thread was about writing

    >giving advice about writing when you can't even read.

    That explains everything.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:22 No.16904307
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    Oh don't let one sour apple ruin the barrel for you OP.

    Besides, we're all quite mad here, aren't we? There was never any question about that.

    The question always was: will you join the dance?
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)05:35 No.16904389
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    So. Back on topic.

    This thread needs more Red Hood/Jason Todd. Before the whole 'battle for the cowl' thing had him coming of like a total nutball.

    So, Jason Todd catches a case of the not-deads, does the whole Red Hood story thing, fails to kill Joker, buggers off for a bit. He's sitting around some shitpile in Cambodia or whatever, when he hears the news: Joker Elected Mayor of Gotham.

    Well, can't let that shit slide, can he? And like that, it's back on. He makes his way back to Gotham, and starts trying to find a way to off Joker. He's gonna need some resources in town, though... semtex and sniper-rigs don't buy themselves, so he hooks up with Penguin and Black Mask's outfits, which have temporarily started working together. His plan? "It's simple: Kill the Joker."

    Mask is still bitter about the whole Hood thing, but Joker is a lot worse for his business than Hood ever was. And besides, no one else in Mask's outfit has the juice to take down the Joker's people (he's tried), so he's backed in to a corner. The Hood is his only choice. Cobblepot acts as a mediator between the two, to keep the across the planning table gunfights to a minimum.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)05:36 No.16904395
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    So that's two huge crime syndicates working in Gotham. Joker and his allies (Harley, MAYBE Two Face when the coin comes up the right way, PMCs, Ra's from behind the scenes, maybe) and Sidonis, with Red Hood and Penguin.

    Most of the rest of the Arkham Rogue's Gallery are just doing their own thing, and trying to stay out of the way of the crime war. Scarecrow is being a nutcase, he'll make for a good foe for the party to beat on. Likewise Ivy, doing the plant thing.
    Freeze will be keeping to himself, until he needs some super-science McGuffin to keep his ice-cube wife from thawing.
    Riddler... I think will be doing the PI thing. Working both for, and against City Hall, because he's smart enough to know that it's only a matter of time before the Laughing Gas gets passed around.
    Croc'll probably be working for one faction or another. Bane too, most likely, maybe bringing along some heavy hitters on a watered down version of Venom. He'd probably side with Black Mask's team, so I guess that puts Croc in the Joker column.

    Mad Hatter I could see working for City Hall. Need to figure out where his mind control shtick would best work.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:48 No.16904458
    I myself honestly see Ivy and Hatter as neutral in the entire affair, with neither being important enough to be deemed a threat but both being too much of a bother to quash.

    Mybe the joker gives Ivy a title like "Head of Park Management" and lets her run the Gotham Greens, while the Hatter just bunkers down and tries to preserve his little slice of wonderland.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:49 No.16904462
    Neat. Now all you need to do is figure out a rough timetable of events and maybe a list of heroes participating and you should be good
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)05:52 No.16904473
    Ivy in charge of Parks and Recreation works.
    Joker'd give her control of everything inside the parks, as long as she stayed out of the rest of the city, and Ivy'd agree, because that's all she really cares about.

    Depending on how the players handle things, Ivy could end up being a potential ally.

    Yup. Thanks for the help, /tg/. I'll come back and let you know how the game shapes up!

    So far, the only character concepts I've gotten from my players are a non-powered crime fighter following in her father's silver-screen heroic footsteps, and a gravity manipulator who will probably end up being the group's strongman.

    I'll keep you posted! You certainly earned it. I'd never have made some of the leaps I did without you to act as a sounding board.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)07:06 No.16904822
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    This thread is awesome. I have nothing to add, but I want more people to read this. A great example of /tg/ getting shit done
    Supaidaman bump
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)09:35 No.16905723

    Also, OP, I'm totally stealing your idea. Well, the basis of it at least - I think I'll try and work it without the actual characters (Mostly using pseudo-Joker and pseudo-Batman and such).
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)10:14 No.16905945
    Do it, faggot.

    Post results.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)10:18 No.16905972

    Aye aye, Cap'n.

    Also, was the name calling really necessary?
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)10:23 No.16906014
    It's 4chan. Name calling is obligatory, you muppet.

    I just finished writing up my in game timeline... it is many pages. I won't post it here. But I will come back with my own play report after my group starts playing... but that probably won't be until Dec.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)10:26 No.16906047

    At least muppet isn't as trite as faggot. Perhaps, then, I should retaliate with some name calling of my own.. Hrmm..

    Good luck with your game, you pompous windbag!

    Seriously though, please... PLEASE post that timeline.
    >> cantbelieveit Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)10:29 No.16906065
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    most epic thread i have read in a long time
    >started reading a lil last night
    >passed the fuck out
    >still had this thread up on pc still running
    >saved everything
    >crossed fingers and hit refresh.....
    >WIN: all u motherfuckers are still here...
    great job
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)10:57 No.16906219
    Oh, alright. this is an extreme rough draft, and it is vague by necessity.

    -10 months - Ra's Al Ghul, growing tired of being the Head of the Demon, and of his ideological deadlock with Batman, decides to bring things to a head. He will place Gotham in such eminent danger that the Dark Knight will be forced to intervene, be forced to kill. But how? He puts his spies in place, and waits for an opportunity to come along.
    -9 months - The Joker, while in prison, is granted access to the Internet. It keeps him busy, so that suits the Warden fine. He spends a few days trolling internet forums, and then strikes upon an article on a political blog, an op-ed piece detailing how "insane" the state of Gotham politics has become. With that simple analogy, the Joker gets the idea to run for Mayor of Gotham.
    He starts a political blog of his own, under the name Conrad Veidt (The Man Who Laughs), and bribes several other political blogs (using agents and funds outside of Arkham) to reprint his articles on major political news sites and blogs.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)10:57 No.16906226
    -8 months - The League of Assassins has been keeping a close eye on Gotham, and has even infiltrated the Batcave's secure network. The entirety of the Batcave system are not open to they, but that can intercept certain automated tracing programs. One of these programs hits upon the name "Conrad Veidt" as a potential alias for the Joker, and traces his IP back to the same hub that services Arkham Asylum.
    Ra's has his agents insure that this red-flag is never seen by the Batman. Instead, false data is transmitted in it's place, leading the Batman to believe Joker is contained, for now, when in truth he is already hatching his next scheme. Ra's also intuits what Joker is up to when he begins to research the Gotham City Charter, and googles "How to run for mayor :)" Due to the shocking levels of corruption in Gotham City, the conditions required to hold public office in the city have been relaxed to an astonishing degree. Criminal convictions, even felony convictions, do not preclude a candidate from holding office... and as an oversight, the candidate doesn't have to prove citizenship. They need only to have paid taxes in Gotham City for 3 years. Which, as it turns out, Joker has. He files his taxes detailing all his legal earnings (usually a few dollars from Arkham work programs). He does it laughing.
    -7 months - Now understanding the Joker's plan, and thinking it perfect for pushing the Dark Knight to the brink, Ra's aids the Joker from behind the scenes, smoothing "Conrad Veidt"s entry in to Gotham politics. The Joker is also greasing palms and playing the intimidation game, but he is still *surprised at how easy it is.*
    Ra's has the League reinforce the false identity of Conrad Veidt, so that no intrepid journalist will be able to discover anything is amiss.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)10:58 No.16906229
    -6 months - Campaigning for the Mayoral Election is now well under way. Ra's ensures that the campaign's front-runners are both men with dark secrets... secrets that can be revealed at a crucial moment during the campaign. Retiring Mayor Hill even goes as far as to endorse one of Ra's chosen candidates, and the stage is set.
    -5 months - Conrad Veidt's rise in Gotham politics is nothing short of meteoric. And when he manages to tap in to the growing popularity of the "Freedom Party" (a movement based entirely on dissatisfaction with the current administration), he quickly becomes a name of great interest in the political arena.
    -4 months - Conrad Veidt's popularity continues to increase. His blog now has a growing list of dedicated followers, and his name has even been mentioned once or twice on cable news. At this point, Ra's hardly needs to do anything else. The Clown has all the momentum he needs, and just in case, Ra's has his own final trump card to play.
    -3 months - Conrad Veidt is now being repeatedly asked for television interviews, but declines them all, sighting a 'disfiguring accident'. Instead, he sends verbose written responses to any questions posed to him, and in this manner becomes a public figure by proxy. This mysterious reclusiveness serves only to accelerate the media buzz about him.
    -2 months - the media is now desperate to find out more about Conrad Veidt, and he is happy to provide them with details. From a distance, of course. Only one reporter manages to get close to the truth, and the League's agents throw him off the scent... non-violently. In order for Joker's plan to work, there must be no crimes committed in Veidt's name.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)11:01 No.16906250
    -1 month - the election approaches quickly, but despite Veidt's cross party appeal, his is still a distant third to the two more connected front runners. But Ra's had planned ahead, and one week from the election both campaign suffer devastating setbacks... one candidate is revealed to have been complicit in the creation and distribution of child pornography, and the other become solidly implicated in his wife's murder some years ago. With both candidates suddenly unelectable (and headed to prison), "Veidt" is now the only candidate running.

    Election Day - Veidt wins by a landslide, and his first act as Mayor is to authorize the release of the Joker from Arkham Asylum using a little known stipulation put in place by a previous Mayor who had a long standing alliance with several nefarious figures. Once freed from Arkham, the Joker head straight for City Hall, climbs a podium, and announces the truth: he is Veidt, and Veidt is Mayor of Gotham. Several police offers mob the Joker right away, and he takes the beating, laughing all the while, before Gordon steps in to stop it. The assembled crowd begins to panic with the Joker's arrival, and police order the crowd to disperse. No one knows what's going on for a while. Things calm somewhat when the Batman is seen on the roof.
    Once inside city hall, surrounded by police and lawyers and city officials, Joker explains the gag. How it all worked. How he's been elected, truly, legally, and there's not a damn thing they can do about it. Not for 90 days, anyway, at which point the city council can call for a vote of no confidence to recall the mayor.
    Until then, the city is his.
    Back at the Batcave, Bruce Wayne is enraged. How had he missed this? Worse, the Joker's claims are true... until he commits a crime, his release from Arkham is legal under the mayor's authority. Batman has no choice but to watch and wait, and try to mitigate the damage.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)11:02 No.16906258
    Day 1 - Using the Mayor's authority, the Joker begins to interview patients at Arkham and prisoners at Blackgate. He is starting a new "work release program", rewarding good behavior with time off. In other words, he's building a new gang, the biggest in the city's history. But the Joker is careful not to implicate himself in any crimes, he leaves that to his assistants, such as Harley Quinn. He knows Batman will be watching, so he plays things carefully, any misstep will see him impeached, so he himself must be unimpeachable. His staff, on the other hand... well, any number of them can resign in shame over their criminal activities.
    The Police are barely holding on to control of the city. The citizens are in a blind panic as the realities of the situation break on the news. Adding to that, Gordon has to quash suggestions of a walk out or strike, trying to explain that it's exactly "what that madman wants!" He has his hands full.
    Day 2 - Poison Ivy is given control of the Parks and Recreations department in exchange for her agreement to keep to the parks. Harvey Dent is offered his old job as DA, and takes it when his coin comes up "good heads". But his hatred for the Joker has not lessened. His first duty as DA is to take up the assault cases Joker has filed against several members of the GCPD who 'roughed him up' when he presented himself at City Hall, and a wrongful arrest suit against the city.
    Day 3 - Black Mask is incensed by this new state of affairs, and begins to circle his wagons for war. A number of citizens flee Gotham, citing safety concerns. Hearing this, Mayor Joker vows to "clean up the streets!" and hires Darkwater, a Private Security Corporation to supplement the GCPD. In truth, the mercenaries answer only to Joker.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)11:03 No.16906265
    Day 4 – DA Two-Face’s case against the GCPD and Gotham City are resolved. The cases proceed quickly, and while the judges balk at the situations, the letter of the law is clear. The cases are open and shut. When the smoke clears, ten GCPD officers are fired and incarcerated. The rumblings of strikes and walkouts at the GCPD increase.
    Joker installs Jervis Tetch (Mad Hatter) as his head of Human Resources.
    Mr. Freeze is paroled, and promptly disappears.
    Ivy sets up camp in Gotham Central Park, turning it in to a “Green Zone”. Violators are treated poorly.
    Day 5 – Two Face gets the legal challenges to Joker’s candidacy thrown out. Everything is above board, and while the Judge calls the proceedings a ‘perversion of the law’, the law IS on Joker’s side, for now.
    Citing previous verdicts again the city for unjustified assault and battery, and his inability to control his officers, Mayor Joker fires Commisioner Gordon, and replaces him with Lyle Bolton, aka Lockup.
    Commisioner Lockup pledges to the GCPD to clean up Gotham, at any cost. No matter who is Mayor. He organized strike teams to hit Black’s Mask and Penguin’s criminal operations, and some of the more gung-ho cops side with him. Together with the Darkwater teams, the attacks are savage, and horrifically efficient.
    The city is rapidly going to hell.
    Calendar Man is put in charge of organizing Holiday Festivities.
    Day 6 – In response to Commisioner Lockup’s attacks, Penguin, Great White Shark, and Black Mask form a criminal alliance of necessity. Just as they are finalizing their alliance, they find themselves host to an unexpected guest: The Red Hood. He wants in, and his plan is simple: “Kill the Joker”.
    The Riddler is hired as a consultant for City Hall… but he’s also working with Batman. Nigma is smart enough to know that eventually, Joker’s going to break out the laughing gas, and he has no interest in seeing Gotham strangled with it.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)11:03 No.16906270
    Week 2 – Batman has been busy, both in the cape and out. The Wayne Foundation lawyers are desperately researching ways to get Joker out of office. For his own party, Batman and his allies have had their hands full with an drastic increase in street crime, since the GCPD no longer seems to be arresting anyone. Anarchy is not far from behind.
    In response, Mayor Joker announces a midnight curfew. Anyone seen out on the streets (or rooftops! ha!) after midnight is subject to arrest, detention, and in the event of resistance, assault by Darkwater strike teams.
    The second night after the curfew is enacted, Robin and Batgirl are discovered ‘breaking curfew’. They manage to evade their pursuers, injuring several Darkwater operatives, but this is all Joker needed.
    He makes Batman and his allies Public Enemy Number One in Gotham.
    Dent is keeping busy in the court system, prosecuting or defending criminals according to the flip of his coin.
    The Black Mask gang hires Bane to help augment their soldiers. The war between city hall and the crime syndicate heats up.
    Joker begins a program of ‘city beautification’ with new city ordinances. This involves hanging up posters, painting buildings green or purple, and incinerating vacant buildings, with the help of Firefly.
    The Scarecrow robs several banks, making liberal use of his fear gas.
    Clayface agrees to work for the Joker as a body double.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)11:04 No.16906275
    Week 3 – the conflict between City Hall and the Black Mask Gang has reached a state of open warfare. Gotham has turned in to a warzone. Bands of armed men from either side clash in the streets. Gordon and a handful of loyal GCPD officers do their best to minimize human casualties. The Bat Family tries to help, but are hindered by the Darkwater soldiers, who are under standing orders to drop anything and converge on any sightings of a Bat.
    With the Bat Family all but driven underground, things are taking a turn for the worse.
    Superman and the JLA attempt to intervene, but are threatened with arrest by Mayor Joker.
    Jervis Tetch has been working on all the ‘human resources’ in the city, and has slowly begun to turn Gotham’s opinion on the Joker around. Subliminal messages, hidden in the posters hung around town reinforce the idea that while having Joker for Mayor is terrible, “there’s nothing we can do but accept it”. As a result, the Joker has the silent approval of the city, and by extension, the law in Gotham.
    Gotham is now truly his.
    Week 4 – Black Mask and his allies make their move while Joker is giving a public speech. Batman attempts to prevent Jason Todd from assassinating the Joker, but succeeds in stopping Deadshot, instead. Red Hood succeeds in shooting the Joker in the heart.
    The reprisals from Joker’s gang are swift and brutal. Any pretense of abiding by the law are done now. Power and water to the city are cut by Joker’s men, and the bridges out of the city are destroyed. It is No Man’s Land all over again. At some point, the players will discover that the man Todd shot was Clayface, not Joker. Joker has been busy elsewhere.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)11:04 No.16906279
    >criminal justice system

    I can NEVER see this GODDAMN PHRASE without hearing that weird Law and Order intro theme.
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)11:06 No.16906290
    Week 5 – The majority of the city believes Joker to be dead. The City Council calls for an emergency election (Tetch’s work), and the ballot is set for a week after Joker’s ‘assassination’. And this, of course, is Joker’s endgame. Election turnout is the highest on record, bolstered by the fear and insanity of Mayor Joker’s reign. But Joker has been busy, and all the voting locations (public places, schools, all owned by the city) have been rigged with Joker Toxin canisters. As the crows hit their peak, Joker plans to trigger the devices, killing millions.
    At the same time, Ra’s contacts Batman, and issues him an ultimatum. He has 48 hours to clean up Gotham, or Ra’s will clean it up his way. With Ninjas and swords and bodybags. Ra’s Deadline will expire on election night, in an attempt to put the maximum amount of pressure on the Dark Knight.
    Even without Ra’s ultimatum, the Joker’s “assassination” and the subsequent chaos have left Batman and allies no choice; they have to act at once or Gotham will tear itself apart. They team up to take down the Black Mask’s gang, The Red Hood, the Darkwater officers and Lockdown, and all the rest of the Arkham inmates still at large.
    Just as things look like they’re calming down, a message from Joker is delivered to the GCPD, now back under Gordon’s control, laying out his plan with the Joker toxin at the voting locations.
    Batman will send the players off to disable the toxins and wrap up the rest of Joker's gang still at large while he goes to deal with Joker.

    ...and then the players end up fighting Joker anyway. Somehow. Haven't figured it out yet.

    Like I said, rough draft. I'm going to change a lot as I go along, see what works, what doesn't, what plot threads the players show the most interest in. But it works well enough as a framework... hell, take this thread, get the DCA books, add water, and stir.

    It'll keep you busy a few weeks, easy.
    >> Vice !!SOT0y3VlD46 11/10/11(Thu)11:33 No.16906487
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    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)11:49 No.16906623
    Would you guys be hard pressed to metagame when the GM introduces your character to Bruce Wayne? Like he is described as playboy and ignorant fool.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)11:58 No.16906703
    You could have Batman actually after Clayface, who survived the shooting. The players would then find out that the bat's following a false lead after cleaning up their part of the job, and head to stop the Joker themselves.

    Also, I do very much love what you've written there. I'd hope you've got sufficiently twisted plans for the Riddler's involvement, but other than that, it looks like you've got things all worked out.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)12:01 No.16906727
    That's... fucking amazing. Thanks for posting it.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)19:00 No.16909965
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)20:21 No.16910850
    they should have sent a poet...
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)23:26 No.16912938
    That's a good idea, anon. I'll use it.

    Yeah, I haven't thought up what to do specifically with the Riddler, but he's another one of my favorites, so I'll have to do it carefully.

    I'll probably have him catch word of my players, and decide they need to 'prove themselves worthy' of his help. By answering riddles, of course.

    Talked with some of my players... my roster now includes the daughter of a Silver Age Crimson Avenger type, a Lantern (of some sort, not sure which yet), and a gravity manipulator who's character is gonna need some fleshing out to not suck.

    I'll keep you posted.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)23:27 No.16912952
    The crimson avenger a regular street character, or is she a metahuman?
    >> OP 11/10/11(Thu)23:53 No.16913195
    Regular street character. No powers. Her dad was the same deal, way back when, and played himself in the movie serials. This was way before Batman or the Justice League, like the JSA days.

    Her dad always told her not to follow in his footsteps, it's a thankless job, you don't get paid, you can get hurt or killed, and the hours suck.
    But all she ever saw was the glamorized TV show version, so... how could she resist?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/11(Thu)23:56 No.16913225
    Heh, anymore backstory you could share with us?

    Also, see which members of the extended Batfamily your players like and dislike- maybe they could end up being tutored under them. Accompanying the Question on a stake out, or teaming up with nightwing to take out a boss would be most excellent.
    >> OP 11/11/11(Fri)00:00 No.16913259
    Not at the moment. Still pretty early in character creation.
    >> Raganui 11/11/11(Fri)00:04 No.16913290
    I like the sound of this. It definitely has the feel of stuff Joker may do. If you're still accepting, while I don't have any experience with M&M 3, I have played 2 and am willing to learn the differences.

    If you need contact info, tell me what for.
    >> Anonymous 11/11/11(Fri)00:06 No.16913302
    See, it's this shit right here that makes me want to play M&M so much. You are a fucking top tier DM and I would be honored to play in one of your sessions any day.
    >> OP 11/11/11(Fri)00:13 No.16913367
    Sorry friend, running this for my local table group.
    >> Anonymous 11/11/11(Fri)00:36 No.16913625
    So what's Luthor's position vis a vis Joker?
    >> Anonymous 11/11/11(Fri)00:46 No.16913727
    any other stuff you want us to help you with?
    >> OP 11/11/11(Fri)00:50 No.16913763
    How about a comic book heroes plot idea thread until this thing goes in to autosage?

    I'll post some other ideas for this campaign I haven't mentioned yet. Most of em are pretty generic though.

    In a DC game, you can't really go wrong with the 'JLA Turns Evil' plot. There's a bunch of ways to to this... the alternate earth version of the JLA, Starro, magic, whatever.
    And it gives people a chance to punch Superman in his big dumb face.
    >> Anonymous 11/11/11(Fri)00:53 No.16913794
    And probably break their knuckles

    Okay, you know who doesn't get enough love? The Department of Extra Normal operations.

    They monitor metahumans and keep tabs on their activities, and the department head is a walking skeleton that can kill people by touching them.

    I always wanted to run a kind of X-Men dealy with them, where they would monitor and provide care for the children/monsterous offspring of Supervillians. Less of a school training them and more of an afterschool program to make sure they don't get into trouble
    >> Anonymous 11/11/11(Fri)03:33 No.16914945
    OK. So, Kryptonians, right?
    Superman gets his power from the Earth's yellow sun. Ditto Supergirl, and, here's the important bit... Krypto.
    So, we can assume that most, if not all Kryptonian life forms have some sort of genetic energy super-capacitance ability.

    So, maybe someone gets a hold of some Kryptonian sea planketon, and uses it as an energy storage medium. That'd make one hell of a duracell.
    >> Anonymous 11/11/11(Fri)04:15 No.16915169
    For a DC campaign, one word: Amazon.

    Watch Under the Red Hood or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kdgMLBFq7I
    >> Anonymous 11/11/11(Fri)08:15 No.16916301
    Meant "Amazo", not Amazon. Fucking autocorrect.

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