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    11 KB TG Quest 15: Time for Tolkien OP 11/08/11(Tue)19:16 No.16887973  

    Last thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16877258/

    When last we left our intrepid heroes, they had successfully shot down any chance of a Gandalf/Elrond vs. Ahriman tag team match by successfully negotiating with the infamous Sorceror before he could make it from his Chaos Gate to Rivendell. His price to leave the area was simple. All the elven lore within the city, and the One Ring. Further negotiations and explanations had him agreeing to accept a lesser Ring of Power. While Tosh and some hilariously clumsy Aurors performed a stealth raid on Rivendell's archives, it was decided to next send them to Long Lake to investigate Smaug's remains. Against all odds, the dice were with them, and they managed to walk away with a mysterious Black Arrow, and a melted sphere of gold that pulsed power, not to mention the countless gems that were Smaug's waistcoat.

    However, the question remains. Will Ahriman accept what MIGHT have once been a Ring of Power? Or will the Transpace Guard have to find another Ring to bribe him away?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)19:17 No.16887995

    1 TGS Cruiser with Sensor, Containment Bay, Labs, and Weapons upgrades, The Oncoming Storm.
    1 Victory-II Star Destroyer, the Relentless
    1 Defiant-class Starship, the Indefatigable.
    1 Overlord-class Dropship.
    2 Leopard-class Dropship.
    1 Al'Kesh Bomber/Transport. (Asgard Teleporters)

    Aboard the Victory-II you have 1 squadron of VF-25s, and 1 squadon of TIE-Defenders, as well as 1 Gunstar, Char in Hyaku Shiki, and Crowe in Brasta.

    Aboard the Overlord you have a team of six Tomahawk Destroids, 4 Hellstar Battlemechs, 2 Mad Cat Battlemechs, and 4 M270 MLRSes.

    You have enlisted the services of BLU team, Spike Spiegal, Egon Spengler, Carl “Mouse” Sampson, Star-Lord, and Gabriel Tosh. All have been given Phaser Rifles for a non-lethal option.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:18 No.16888002
    Fuck yeah! Get that metal blob analysed, stat.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:18 No.16888011
    the nerdiest paragraph of my life
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:18 No.16888013
    Additional query: Can the aurors use transiguration to change the orb to the shape of a ring?
    Like I imagine just changing the shape of an object is easier than changing its composition/mass.
    Also attempt as powerful a repair spell as they can muster.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)19:18 No.16888014
    You have the following troops, all with kinetic barriers, Shadowrun gear, and reality emitters.
    1 squad (12/12) of UNIT troops with Power Armor, Fallout energy weapons, and A280 Blaster Rifles.
    1 squad (12/12) of SCP troopers with Tiberium enhanced lasers, Phaser Rifles, and Advanced Power Armor mk 2
    1 squad (12/12) of Sandmen with Mass Rifles.
    1 squad (12/12) of Delta Greens with Chinese Stealth Armor, Mass Rifles, and A280 Blaster Rifles
    3 Mobile Infantry in Marauders equipped with Panther Assault Cannons and Phaser Rifles.
    1 Emergency Medical Hologram with mobile emitter.
    1 Auror team with prototype NOD armor and AK-47 backup weapons
    2 (24/24) Reasonable Marines Tactical Squads
    1 X-COM Veteran Squad. (12/12)
    20 X-COM scientists.

    You have 1 NOD ICBM attached to a hardpoint on the Storm, 20 nannybags, 12 reconstruction tanks, 6 shots of RED-2, 15 nuclear warheads, The Big One dud, 6 Fat Mans with 30 mininukes,12 assault rifles, 12 10mm pulse rifles, and 12 Marsec MA-11 laser rifles in reserve.

    Your Science Team is currently researching Defensive Reality Fields.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)19:19 No.16888021
    Alrighty then. Make sure you remember that 93 you rolled last time, OP.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:20 No.16888035
    Oh goody!

    Let's find out if Ahriman finds our ball of enchanted gold worth his time.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:21 No.16888045
    As far as HP abilities go, they should be able to. It depends on whether the sphere has enchantments of it's own that may interfere.

    ANON: We need a status update on Ahriman, the Chaos Gate, and the Council of Elrond.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:22 No.16888052
    Debrief the Knights Inductor.
    Do they believe Ahriman to be a man of his word?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:24 No.16888068
    This quest sounds like a piece of fanfiction written by children

    I thought /tg/ was better than this shit
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:25 No.16888078
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)19:26 No.16888085
    and I would like to disagree.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:26 No.16888086
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    >Mfw Kharne the betrayer rolls through Ahriman's portal and fucks up middle earth's shit.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:28 No.16888102
    I personally expect Doomrider to show up.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:29 No.16888111
    I still say we need to extract a vow from Ahri to say he won't come back here looking for the Ring.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:33 No.16888160
    There are heros who could fight, wait. Kharne's weapon Gorechild, it can rip through almost anything with that mecca dragon teeth blades.

    P.S. We need an Elvish blade worthy of Eregion craft.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)19:37 No.16888197
    The Aurors manage to repair/shape the blob of metal back into a ring, but analysis of it indicates it has lost much of its potency thanks to the damage it has suffered. The Aurors are incapable of changing this.

    ANON: "The Council is proceeding on schedule. Ahriman is reading the lore you gave him by the Gate."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:42 No.16888238
    We could always swipe Orcrist from Thorin's tomb. And the Arkenstone as well.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:42 No.16888239
    Ach! Well, we can present Ahriman with what we have now. If he finds it not worth his time, we can tell him that this is the most accessible sample and that we'll just find a more potent and intact sample, but it'll take a bit more time. In the meantime, he'll have something to work on.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:42 No.16888243
    Well, if he doesn't accept it, we could add some amount of knowledge to sweeten the pot.
    Hopefully it will be enough, I actually feel better about recovering a damaged ring that doesn't bother the canon at all than most of the alternatives.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:44 No.16888269
    Please tell me we have a crew working on taking all of Smaug's loot from his corpse.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:44 No.16888275
    Also, just to make sure, we're making this trade with Ahriman under what conditions? Reading the last thread I'm a bit muddled on that.
    He leaves and tells us what he knows of the Event?
    He just leaves? (Bad deal)
    He leaves, with the promise not to share this information with anyone else, and gives us info on the Event?
    He leaves, shares information on the Event, and see if we can get him to agree to leave canons alone and perhaps we can make similar trades in the future. Do we have a way to be contacted that we'd trust Ahriman with?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)19:45 No.16888291
    "What's this? Hm... No. This will not do. It was powerful once, but it is a shadow of its former self. You will have to do better if you want to uphold our bargain," Ahriman says. He pauses. "Hm...Hmhmhm. It is amusing though. According to what I've read here, I believe this ring is the one that belonged to the dwarf-lord Sindri... The name seems cursed wherever it is found."

    With that, he hands the ring back.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:45 No.16888298
    > not to mention the countless gems that were Smaug's waistcoat.
    I think we can tell you that.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)19:46 No.16888306
    So far, you have extracted a promise to leave, and he will tell you what he knows about the Event.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:46 No.16888307
    Can we do a fly-by mount doom and throw the ring in just to get it over with quickly. If the ring is around, so is Sauron. So let's take care of that fucker right away and free middle-earth of his evil.

    Also we can tell Ahriman where many relics lie, like Lothlorien. I think Ahriman would be intrigued by the Mallorn trees there.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:47 No.16888325
    I think we bargained for his knowledge of the Event, but we should also get his word that he won't disrupt canon. Maybe a subtle threat might discourage him from
    any further treasure hunting? What have we got in our arsenal that would impress him? Anything?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:48 No.16888342
    You will find the names of anyone that possessed these rings to be cursed, as we tried to tell you before, they are a corrupting force. The more powerful they are, the more terrible the corruption.
    Perhaps studying a weakened form of one would actually be safer for you.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:50 No.16888369
    That's SUE talk and we won't have that.
    The canons are to be preserved, that is our purpose and our mission.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:50 No.16888376
    In addition to this, tell him about the Nine Kings. And how they became immortal unkillable slaves to Sauron. But, this might intrigue him into getting the one ring even more.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:50 No.16888382
    I wonder if he'd accept a Palantir- we could conceivably locate the stone of Osgiliath on the bottom of the river Anduin, somewhere downriver from the city. It's out of the cannon at this point, and was supposed to the the largest and most powerful of all the seeing stones.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:51 No.16888386
    When you've lived as long as he has? I sincerely doubt it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:51 No.16888397
    >Show Sauron our nuclear weapons
    >offer to trade for one of his rings
    >give ring to ahriman
    >beam nukes up from orbit
    >fuck you sauron
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:53 No.16888428
    Hell, I'm fairly confident we could drive him from here by force, we're just choosing to be reasonable with him.
    Though I'm not sure he realizes that we are simply trying to be diplomatic rather than fearful.

    Is there some, very subtle, way to give him an inkling of how friendly we are being?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:54 No.16888436
    Welp. Time to shake down Sauron.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)19:54 No.16888438
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    "You think I wish to USE these items. I am not that stupid. I am going to study them, and you insult me to think I am not capable of doing so safely. Your other offers are intriguing, but I will have a ring before I leave this planet, one way or another. KINDLY see to your part of the deal."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:55 No.16888456
    We need a grisly trophy to demonstrate our power. Then next big bad we kill, take its head.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)19:56 No.16888461
    "Hmm... You wish to study the Rings of Power, and yet we are unable to procure any that are powerful enough for worthy research... We might be able to arrange a short meeting with the forge-master of the One Ring of Power, if you like."
    Get out of here, Fixer plane-trash. We're here to send everybody home, not save the day like it's ours to save in the first place.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)19:57 No.16888483
    This sounds like a worthy plan if we've got some crew or squads laying about we could put onto the task. I'd send Delta Green after it, personally.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:57 No.16888485
    Ahriman think about this for a moment. The rings, in any capicity, corrupt. The one ring, even in this safe place, is corrupting it. It has to leave or soon this haven of the elves will be lost. It calls to it's master. Moreover, you don't belong here. Return to your own realm and focus on the study of knowledge there. This world is on a set path, and the more we meddle the more chance we have of fucking this place up. But you don't care about that do you?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:59 No.16888505
    Yeah let's not say that.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)19:59 No.16888508
    He's starting to irritate me.

    Do the rings have a unique energy sugnature we can scan for? They were all made the same way, after all, and the One Ring certainly is connected to the others. Can we use the ring that we have to track down the other rings? Ask Egon.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:00 No.16888522
    Alright guys. I think it's time to ambush a Nazgul and steal it's ring. This is actually the perfect time for it- they're weakened and dispersed by the river outside Rivendell.

    So- how do we capture a Nazgul?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:01 No.16888539
    I don't think a Sauron-Ahriman tete-a-tete is a good idea, even if it were in our power to arrange.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:03 No.16888564
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    Think about it guys. We go to talk to Sauron we have to speak to this fucker.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:04 No.16888574
    ...Excellent idea. Let's attempt SCIENCE!
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)20:05 No.16888588
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    In retrospect, yeah. Nix that idea.
    You don't, broski. Simple as that. However, if we had to obtain a ring by force, I'd recommend... uh... Heading into Barad-Dur is a bad idea, so we may have to Ghostbust a Nazgul if it comes down to it.
    Seconding this.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:05 No.16888589
    Not if we have the conversation via Palantir.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:06 No.16888601
    "And we shall do so. I apologize for fretting, but time is, as always, short and matters ever so delicate. Theirs is an insidious corruption and evil that seeks only enslavement and destruction. Frankly, you are far too powerful and intelligent for us to not fear the possibility of your corruption to evil. But I still trust your word and your willpower. I will not betray this deal. Still, keep this sample, however diminished it is. It should, once we deliver an intact one, provide an interesting example of how their enchantments can be degraded or destroyed."

    We find an intact dwarven ring and we give it. We keep our word. Palantirs and other artifacts can the subjects of other deals with him.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)20:07 No.16888608
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    >Speaking to Sauron
    >via Palantir
    >in any way shape or form a good idea
    Didn't Merry teach you anything? Sauron'll want our stuff. It'll get even more messy.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:07 No.16888611
    We don't have a single member of staff who can converse with Sauron safely.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:08 No.16888625
    Don't give the broken ring. We can use it, and he doesn't want it. Also, suck his dick more, I don't think he noticed.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:12 No.16888670
    ...Even if we can do that, just watch and have OP say that we need to examine the One Ring to complete the trace.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:12 No.16888674
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    >>Talking to Sauron at all
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:13 No.16888681
    Welcome to diplomacy. It involves everyone leaving feeling screwed, but still thinking they got the best deal. That and a whole lot of bootlicking.

    We can't actually use the broken ring. At least I don't think we can.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:14 No.16888694
    You're just mad and frustrated that we can't walk all over him, and because he has the power, willingness, and capability to fuck up shit if this deal falls through.
    Welcome to high-stakes diplomacy.

    The only intact Dwarven rings are presumably in Barad-dur. I don't believe any of the ones eaten by dragons has survived.
    First thing we should do is take the magic ring we recovered and have the X-COM scientists and Egon attempt to modify the Storm's sensors to scan specifically for those energy signatures.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)20:15 No.16888703
    >planet-scanning for the Rings of Power
    My life is now a little more complete. DO IT.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:16 No.16888718
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    "No. I have no use for it, and I don't want you holding it over my head as some form of unspoken deal."

    ANON: "The remaining Dwarven rings are all within Bara-dur."

    "It may be possible to lock onto Bara-dur or the One Ring's unique signature and try to trace the tendrils of itself used to manipulate the Nazgul... but I must warn you, such an attempt has a risk of alerting Sauron," Egon states.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:16 No.16888720
    Diplomacy mind.

    I also agree and second with your idea to scan for similar energy signature to the broken ring.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:16 No.16888722
    I'd say stealing a Dwarven Ring from Sauron is more likely to be fruitful than attempting to kidnap a Nazgul.
    Maybe we can just beam down a communications device commanding Sauron to give us a Ring, then open fire on an especially devastated region of Mordor as a show of force, and then bluff our willingness to do the same to his Ring unless he obeys our commands.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)20:18 No.16888741
    Well, we're going to have to find 'em somehow. If we get Sauron mad, so be it. We have orbital supremacy, and Nazgul can only fly so high. Let's try to lock onto the One Ring since it's right in Rivendell at the moment and then see if we can trace the ring-ness back to see where the others are for pick-up.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:18 No.16888746
    rolled 23 = 23

    "Hmmm. Using the broken ring instead has far less risk, but isn't guaranteed to work. It may take a while, but we will attempt it," Egon states.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:19 No.16888751
    ...Is there any way we can incite the Nazgul to attack Ahriman?
    We said we'd give him a Ring, we didn't say there wouldn't be a crazed ghost-king attached to it.
    The Nazgul wear their Rings don't they?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:19 No.16888756
    You mean the idea somebody already had?
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)20:19 No.16888763
    >backstabbing Ahriman
    I really don't see how that could -possibly- end well, to be honest. Might as well get Sauron mad, since there isn't quite as much he can do about it as an angry Ahriman.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:20 No.16888765
    Why not simply lock on the signature(s) of the dwarven rings and teleport them? Unless that would break the enchantments... Then we can send... The Delta Green guys in with their Stealth Armour. Teleport them next to the rings we can locate and then they exfiltrate on foot until we can get them by shuttle.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:20 No.16888767
    >It may be possible to lock onto Bara-dur or the One Ring's unique signature
    "Egon, instead, would it be possible to scan Barad-dur to see where the Dwarven Rings of Power are located in it?
    "ANON, do our sensors detect any form of interdiction field or anti-teleportation wards around Barad-dur? We maybe to able to do a high-speed drive-by transport, especially if we set of a couple high-yield photon torpedoes beyond Mount Doom to get Sauron's attention. The Fellowship isn't there yet, so they will be unaffected by the torpedoes going off."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:20 No.16888773
    I think thats the sort of thing we're supposed to prevent...
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:21 No.16888778
    A half hour later, Egon reports.

    "The energy signature of the ring was too weakened to use, but we gained some information that may help in the attempt if we try the other method," Egon states. "Also while we cannot fully identify the properties of this or the other item, we believe they retain some magical functions, and would recommend hiring someone more versed in magical identification to have a look at them."

    >Failure rate reduced for next attempt.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:21 No.16888784
    I wouldn't consider it backstabbing, since we would warn him beforehand. If anything I would consider it a bonus, seeing as Ahriman now has a new subject to interrogate as well as a demonstration of the corruptive properties of the Rings of Power. Hell he might even be able to figure out a way to bend the Wraith to his will.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:23 No.16888808
    ANON: "I would advise against detonation of any high yield ordinance unless absolutely necessary."

    "Yes, we can scan for either the Nine or the Seven," Egon states.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)20:23 No.16888810
    Let's see if we can do a remote scan of the One Ring while it's in Rivendell in Frodo's Possession or something like that, and use that energy signature to conduct the scan.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:24 No.16888813
    Identification of specifics can wait until we're back at base.
    Right now, we need a way to get into Barad-dur, and find the Dwarven Rings.

    What about these two questions: >>16888767
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:24 No.16888815
    Alright, let's find Radagast the Brown. Even if he's pretty useless as a wizard, he should be able to do that much I hope.
    Maybe play it off almost as a way of redeeming himself from a very powerful threat?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:25 No.16888831
    I think we have little choice but to try and scan for the rings, but we need a plan first for the likely scenarios.

    a. scan for the rings, undetected, beam one up and give it to ahriman
    b. scan for the rings, undetected, can't beam it up, away team?
    c scan for the rings, detected by sauron
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:26 No.16888847
    Stealth mission into Barad-dur to grab a ring: Go!

    Remember that goal A is to preserve the Canon. That means: No talking to Sauron, No nuking Mordor, No telling Boromir he's a dick. We go in, loot the loot, and gtfo before anyone knows we're there.

    It hasn't been mentioned yet, but: Send Tosh, Mouse, the Sandmen, and the MIs down to the vessel of the Shipper we captured. MIs on point in case the vessel can defend itself. We're going to get Mouse to find out what this bitch knows and (possibly) collect evidence of her crimes. The ship itself doesn't belong in this Canon so it needs to get the fuck out of here one way or another, and looting it is more productive than destroying it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:28 No.16888860
    >Also while we cannot fully identify the properties of this or the other item, we believe they retain some magical functions, and would recommend hiring someone more versed in magical identification to have a look at them.
    Black arrow of dragon slaying +10, the one used to kill Smaug. Is this the item you're talking about?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:29 No.16888864
    rolled 88 = 88

    You send Tosh, Mouse, the MIs, and the Sandmen off to locate the ship...
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:31 No.16888879
    rolled 10 = 10

    "That item and the repaired ring."

    Mouse and the Sandmen take point, handily disarming a number of traps and security devices set around and in the ship while the Mobile Infantry stand guard. After only twenty minutes, the ship is declared clean. Tosh activates the ship's cloak and flies it up to join the Storm.

    >Vessel acquired: Shipper Ship.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:33 No.16888893
    Can we ask Gandalf why he didn't just get the eagles to take the ring to Mordor? It's a once in a lifetime opportunity

    I keed, I keed.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:33 No.16888903
    I know something doesn't add up here.
    Ahriman doesn't belong here, neither does the Shipper, but the two seem completely unrelated. There could well be other crossover events occurring. After the business with Ahriman is concluded, it might benefit us to do more investigation of Rivendell to verify that the main lore characters are okay.

    First things first, though: Grab a ring, hand it to Ahriman.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:34 No.16888913

    We must do this!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:35 No.16888922

    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:35 No.16888929
    Now, assuming that we're able to use the readings off of the One Ring that's in Rivendell as a base for the magical energy signature we need to look for:
    >a. scan for the rings, undetected, beam one up and give it to ahriman
    Best scenario. Nothing further needs to be done, we GTFO.
    >b. scan for the rings, undetected, can't beam it up, away team?
    Possible. I'm thinking Tosh to sneak in after being beamed in close, then either putting a transporter beacon on the rings or swiping them and running out/breaking through a window and getting picked up by the Al'Kesh.
    I'd consider the Aurors for magic backup, but there's their recent antics to consider.
    Delta Greens would be nice, but the more people go along, the higher the risk of detection. Also, while they're fairly strong-willed, Sauron has a history of easily bending the minds of Men.

    >c scan for the rings, detected by sauron
    We may need to use a modification of the above plan.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:37 No.16888950
    Mouse should check any computer devices on the Shipper's vessel as evidence of the Shipper's crimes, and also possibly collect info on the Event.
    I'm worried that with a roll of 10, he's going to try the "download everything DIRECTLY INTO MY BRAIN ALL AT ONCE" route without noticing the 2 Gigabyte folder containing the shipper's bad masturbation fiction, leaving him traumatised for life.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:37 No.16888954

    My god, are we truly neckbeards if we do not take this opportunity?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:38 No.16888972
    Because the Eagles are strongly allergic to Evil and won't go anywhere near the ring, as it is made of Evil.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:39 No.16888990
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    The Oncoming Storm attempts to use its magical sensors to remotely analyze the Ring...

    Immediately the monitors of the ship begin to light up with a single image, an immense eye, wreathed in flame. Several of the Comm/Scan crew fall out of their chairs, screaming. A few clutch at their ears or eyes. You feel whispers hissing in your mind as the eye seems to bore into your brain...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:39 No.16888993
    Best Case Scenario: Lols are had as Gandalf gets trolled a bit.
    Worst Case Scenario: Gandalf has an Eagle fly the ring into Mordor, completely fucking the Canon.

    Suggest: Don't follow this plan of action, as the potential fuckups greatly outweigh the potential amusement.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:40 No.16888994
    Have Mouse check out the Shipper's computers, see where she was, where she was headed to, and if she had any other targets on this world.

    I always thought it was because Sauron has great anti-air and magic radar, so any fliers coming anywhere near Mordor would automatically get jumped by Nazgul.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:40 No.16889002
    Wait, fuck. If we start firing rifles and black hole generators at orcs, won't that impact the canon? Can we disguise our weapons, or cloud our enemies minds in some way so that they think we're magic elves or something? Or failing that, use magic and melee only, backed up with stealthed snipers?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:41 No.16889004
    "ANON! Emergency purge sequence! Get that fucker out of our computers!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:41 No.16889005
    That'll scare him right the fuck away.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:41 No.16889011

    Wouldn't this ultimately be better for the canon though? Countless lives would be saved.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:42 No.16889019
    Close comms immediately.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:42 No.16889029
    rolled 85 = 85

    One of the bridge crew manages to summon the willpower to hit a kill-switch. The scan terminates, the image fades. One of the Comm/Scan officers shakes his head.

    "What the hell was that?!?!"

    Meanwhile, Mouse begins investigating the computer systems of the ship, as suggested.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:43 No.16889035
    No! You're starting to sound like a Fixer; stop that!
    The Canon must be preserved! It doesn't matter how many die in the course of the Canon; they were already dead.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:43 No.16889036
    Son, you don't seem to quite understand what a "Canon" is.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:43 No.16889038
    That's not what canon means, you dirty Fixer
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:43 No.16889045
    Yeah that happens. Let's focus on the utterly retarded world we were last at, and with special detail given to just what we did with it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:44 No.16889049
    No. Canon is canon. If it is canon that 47 babies die in a fire, then we make damn sure that they do. Thats whats good for canon. You mean it would be good for Middle Earth.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:44 No.16889059
    We're here to uphold the canon, not make it better.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:45 No.16889070
    Will we still be able to run a trace on the seven? Or did we just fuck that up?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:46 No.16889084
    "That, everyone, was Sauron, also known as Gorthaur the Cruel, The Enemy, The Dark Power, The Great Eye, and quite a few other names.
    "ANON, I want a full diagnostic scan to make sure he hasn't left us with any surprises in our own computers. Also check to see what files and information he accessed, if any."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:46 No.16889085
    That was... probably a fluke. Let's try again.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:47 No.16889102
    "I pulled the ship's logs," Mouse reports. "According to this, when the Event hit, it got jolted off course into some sort of roiling maelstrom of space and energy. Things started appearing within the ship, the pilot used some sort of etheric bomb that killed them, but caused the ship to flare like a magic beacon. A few more appeared, she jettisoned her cargo in an attempt to eject them, then made an emergency jump to... random coordinates. Ship pops out in nowheresville, but free of boarders, she breathes a sigh of relief and resumes course here."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:48 No.16889104
    Aw shit.
    Get the X-com veteran squad in the Bridge, have them talk to the Comms officers and everyone nearby. No doubt X-com veterans are survivors of serial mind rape, and will know how to calm the people down after such an ordeal.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:48 No.16889113
    We need to scan Barad-dur, see if anythings changed, troop formations, patrols, energy signatures.
    We need to know how much Sauron was able to see, and what he's doing to use that knowledge against us.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)20:50 No.16889128
    Systems report clean as the X-COM squad goes about the business of calming people down and making sure no one's mind was accessed enough to gain vital information.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:50 No.16889133
    Ah fuck, she was in the Warp. Best get the ship checked out for and lingering Chaos corruption.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:51 No.16889137
    Schedule everyone in for some counselling with the EMH when we get some downtime.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:52 No.16889140
    >Things started appearing within the ship, the pilot used some sort of etheric bomb that killed them,
    Research that weapon.
    She was boarded by Daemons of the warp and the weapon she used was able to destroy them. I want to know what that weapon is, since having an Anti-Daemon weapon will SERIOUSLY help us out if we ever end up against Chaos.

    >she jettisoned her cargo in an attempt to eject them
    What was she carrying at this time? It's one thing if you're carrying a crate of guns and you drop it in the warp, entirely another if you're carrying one of SHODAN's memory cores.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:52 No.16889141
    Any, even.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:53 No.16889155
    This canon may be fucked now, depending on how much Sauron was able to understand by examining our ships.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:57 No.16889187
    I don't know, I'd say our technology is beyond his comprehension, and even if it isn't, it's definitely beyond his ability to reproduce, especially in his diminished state. Worst comes to worst, his Eye will be focused on understanding and crafting our technology, instead of occupied on his campaign of domination.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:57 No.16889192
    Fortunately Sauron suffers Canon-death. So long as he didn't pull files specifically about the LotR trilogy, this world will run its course and kill him along with his knowledge.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)20:58 No.16889196
    It depends on if he was able to access any information regarding the LotR and the events therein.

    Now, we need to scan Barad-dur to see if there are any changes and if there's an interdiction ward that prevents us from beaming in.
    We also need to see if we were able to get a working scan of the One Ring's energy signature that we can use to track down the remaining Seven Rings.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:04 No.16889253
    I'm getting increasingly worried that we'll need to land in Barad-Dur without knowing what the fuck we're doing, and go on a stealthy dungeon crawl to find a ring, with both the threat of Sauron Mindrape -and- of interfering with this world's canon.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 11/08/11(Tue)21:04 No.16889256
    Dude, TG MetaQuest, first thing in the morning yeeeaaah!

    Anyway, how about that ring? Can we nab just one?
    I think it was bad idea to reforge the molten ring...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:04 No.16889260
    If we're going to actually have to storm Barad-Dur, I might recommend we make a couple stops.
    Like for instance, the cairn of Fingolfin which was said to be on a mountain overlooking Gondolin.
    There we should find the sword known as Ringil, whose icy blade wounded the mighty Morgoth seven times, and made the Vala walk with a limp until his defeat.

    Sauron might fear that blade even more than he would fear Narsil.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:09 No.16889308
    Is it wrong that I still find that preferable to fighting Ahriman?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:10 No.16889311
    I know something Sauron would fear.

    TG: "Sauron."
    Sauron: "Sup."
    TG: "You can read minds, right?"
    Sauron: "Yep."
    TG: "Here, read this one."
    Shipper: "Ima shipper tee hee."
    Sauron: "Gah wtf get it away!"
    TG: "Feel like reading any more minds today?"
    Sauron: "Omg no."
    TG: "kk fucking around in Barad-dur for a while, brb"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:13 No.16889348
    The Barad-dur mission is certainly easier. Ahriman is one powerful motherfucker.
    On the flip side, because he's such a powerful motherfucker, leaving him alive may bite us in the ass later.

    I bet $10 that Kane, Starscream, and Ahriman will show up at some point in the future and they'll all be surfing on an Orz Nemesis painted to look like the G-man.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:15 No.16889367
    Personally, I'm hoping that he becomes an ally against Chaos later.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:18 No.16889384
    I like the idea of recruiting Ahriman by bating him with the prospect of travelling between different canons and gaining their knowledge. Sure, that sounds like a bad idea. But keep your enemies close. It's better then just letting him go to fuck knows and to who fuckings knows.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:19 No.16889401
    We gave him a lead to a necron overlord with some neat stuff, so hopefully that will keep him occupied for a while.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:26 No.16889473
    >But keep your enemies close
    You know that saying doesn't refer to keeping your enemies physically closer to you, right? Or letting them see important and sensitive information, such as where our Sector HQ is located, or its defenses.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:26 No.16889476
    He might even lose, which would really tie up loose ends.
    But knowing our luck, he and Trazyn will bro it up.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:28 No.16889493
    Alright ANON, any progress on those scans of Barad-dur?
    Can we shunt the sensor data into a buffer in order to prevent what happened with our last scan of the One Ring?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)21:29 No.16889512
    The ship appears clean, and the Storm CAN detect Chaos taint in vessels. The cargo appears to be crates of supplies, chemicals, and a few tradeables. You are not sure what the bomb was, but a more in depth analysis of the ship and the information aboard it may yield more. Mouse gets started on this.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:32 No.16889536
    Is the T.G.R.I. Ooze amongst those chemicals?
    It'd explain how the furries in the fallout world were able to get their hands on it.

    Continue the scans of Barad-dur for locations of any rings, but ensure that a few X-com psi operatives are ready to hit the "No." button in case the big red eye pops up again.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)21:35 No.16889570
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    No, not at all. They're both terrible, horrible options I wouldn't wish on even my most hated enemies. But here we are. I believe that, given our technological advantage over the Uruk-Hai in Barad-Dur, a dungeon crawl supported by what little data we can get.
    I also support grabbing Ringil if we can afford the time. Having it would work wonders for our 'hey look over here look at us' squads while our stealth units go grab us a Ring-O-Powah.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)21:35 No.16889571
    rolled 78 = 78

    The ship attempts to scan Barad-dur with what little information you managed to scrounge from the rings...
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)21:37 No.16889587
    Though it cannot fully lock on, the Storm is able to locate the general area within Barad-dur in which the three remaining dwarf-rings are kept.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)21:38 No.16889610
    >cracks knuckles IRL
    Alrighty then. Let's send down the same retrieval team as we did for the Shipper Ship, replacing the MI with our UNIT troops. If anybody has any decent ideas for a relatively quiet diversion, fire away.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:38 No.16889616
    Wait, you mean...use Ringil and a squad of heavies like we did with Mechagodzilla and Kyoto?
    Waving our dicks in Sauron's face in order to keep his attention while a separate team sneaks in, snags the objective, and gets out, before Sauron can do anything?

    This sounds like the beginning of a plan.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:40 No.16889634
    To be honest, I'd like to steal as many legendary weapons as possible, seeing as this probably won't be the last high fantasy world we encounter.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:42 No.16889659
    Could work. If we're going with a distraction squad we'll need people resistant to mindfuckery - the Reasonable Marines and/or the Xcommies, since that's likely where Sauron is going to stare.
    For Stealth, we've got the DGs, Tosh, and the Aurors.

    When this is over, I suggest spending our funding on Magic and Psi protection if nothing else.
    Also, any Maximum™-grade information gathering equipment would be handy, since a majority of our time is spent finding information. Whether it's updated scanners, magical scrying, psionic clairvoyance/telepathy, or good old fashioned Savvy Plot-o-vision, any more information gathering will be a great plus.
    Finally, SCIENCE!. The more SCIENCE! the better.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)21:44 No.16889681
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    Belay this order.

    Maybe we can get Ringil, the MI's, the X-Commies, and the Reasonable Marines to serve as distractions, and the insertion squad I suggested to go grab it/them. This, of course, means we have to go grab the swords itself at the cairn of Fingolfin. I say let's do it.
    >our faces when
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:45 No.16889691
    Yep. If we get mindfuck-resistant troops to wave Ringril and a bunch of weapons in Sauron's face (we have Xcom dudes and Reasonable marines), that'll provide a distraction.
    Then the Stealth team (Tosh, the 11 Aurors that aren't clumsy, possibly Delta greens in stealth armor) teleports in, finds the ring, the Aurors apparate it to them, and they teleport the fuck out.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:47 No.16889711
    Right lads, we've got a plan. Let's get moving.

    Also, OP, can you tell me if the chemicals on the Shipper's vessel included T.G.R.I. ooze?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:47 No.16889716
    Here's a question.
    I mean obviously we take the first Ring we find and then leave, but what if Sauron is arrogant enough to have all three in the same location?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:48 No.16889722
    Alright, here's the plan:
    1. We scan for Fingolfin's Cairn from orbit.
    2. Finding the tomb, we have the Aurors, Spike, the SCP, the Delta Greens, and Egon with his proton pack (in case of wraiths, wights, and ghosts), beam down and recover Ringil.
    3. We start raising a ruckus in Mordor, near the borders, and make sure that some of the orcs escape with tales of the Return of Ringil to Sauron's ears.
    4. Once Sauron's attention is focused on the Ringil Team, the Stealth Team goes in the Al'Kesh to Barad-dur.
    5. Stealth Team: Aurors, Tosh. Beam down, sneak in, nab the rings, beam out.

    The Ringil Team and their operation will need to be expanded on, but this is the basic outline.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:49 No.16889740
    We have no use for any of the other rings. The things are cursed to fuck and back. We take one, give it to Ahriman and gtfo.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:52 No.16889766
    Ringil is in Beleriand, which is underwater. Like, deep underwater. Middle-earth is only one half of a very large continent, the other half is Beleriand which is, like I said, submerged underwater.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:52 No.16889767
    What should BLU team be doing in all of this? Chilling out on the ship, blowing each-other up as they like to do for fun, and erecting dispensers?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:52 No.16889769
    Good point, I forgot how useless those things were.
    ...Also, didn't the three elven rings lose power after Sauron's defeat?
    We probably shouldn't tell Ahriman that.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:52 No.16889773
    We're going for the Dwarven rings since they have the least plot relevance.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:53 No.16889776
    Well, if all three are in the same location...waaaait a minute.
    Those damn things might bring great wealth, but they greatly magnify greed. Not to mention, they're still contaminated by Sauron's control magic.
    I suppose we could grab all three, give Ahriman the one he wants, and then throw the other two into the Sun as a final 'FUCK YOU' to Sauron.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:54 No.16889788
    Grabbing the other two carries a risk with it. I say just leave them alone.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)21:55 No.16889796
    I like this plan most verily.
    Hmm. I'm sure we will be able to find it if we have access to the records and maps leading to the 'Cliff over Gondolin'.
    They should be part of the diversion team. They're loud as fuck and pretty good at fighting back, so they can help. However, Spy should go with the ring-retrieval team due to the fact that invisibility has no place on the battlefield.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:56 No.16889807
    If the people we send to nab the rings take all three. Their minds will be filled with thoughts of, "I can just take these for myself. I don't need X because I can control Y myself. All power is mine. They don't respect me, they don't think I can have Y." So on and so forth. Also it will try to get them to wear the ring, which will alert Sauron of their presence.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:56 No.16889810
    ...Well now I know why no one took it sooner, but with our technology, we should still be able to find it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:58 No.16889841
    ...Do any of them know how to wield a sword?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)21:59 No.16889858
    Well, we've got a plan set up. Now we just wait for Op to give the approval of us getting the +1 pointy stick of dick waving and distraction.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:00 No.16889860
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    >Demoman wielding Ringil like the Eyelander
    And gentlemen, we have the angry, Scottish face to our intimidation group. I love this Quest so much.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:00 No.16889866
    They have a few melee weapons, the Pyro has an axe, the Demo a sword, the scout a bat(club), and the Heavy his fists.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:01 No.16889871
    Maybe we should take the EMH with the Stealth Team?
    Cut down the number of people, in order to maximize stealth, and once the rings are located, have the EMH handle them.
    The EMH is a machine, it will be unaffected by Sauron's corrupting magic.

    We also need to warn the Stealth Team of Sauron's influence so they're prepared for it.

    We've really got to get those will save-improving items from SW:KotOR.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:02 No.16889890
    Also, the EMH can keep its mobile emitter turned off until it needs to activate and take possession of a Ring.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:03 No.16889899
    Sound suggestions. I had forgotten all about the EMH. I say let's put him to good use.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:03 No.16889907

    With these in consideration, perhaps we should get a stealth team to locate the location of the rings, then beam down a psionically-resistant team to actually recover the rings.

    If we can transport personnel down there, perhaps we can send a Sandman team or maybe even an automated drone to pick one up. Then we transport the person/robot with said ring to Ahriman.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:04 No.16889913
    >The EMH is a machine, it will be unaffected by Sauron's corrupting magic.
    I'm not so sure about that. Sauron appeared on our computer monitors, so the EMH may still be vulnerable.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:04 No.16889921

    Seconding the EMH deployment.

    He's going on a ton of crazy adventures today.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)22:05 No.16889924
    No, no Ooze on the Shipper Ship.

    The Storm begins scanning. After fifteen minutes it locates a low-set island in the middle of the sea with what appears to be a structure built over it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:05 No.16889926
    "In that vast shadow once of yore
    Fingolfin stood: his shield he bore
    with field of heaven’s blue and star
    of crystal shining pale afar.
    In overmastering wrath and hate
    desperate he smote upon that gate,
    the Elvish king, there standing lone,
    while endless fortresses of stone
    engulfed the thin clear ringing keen
    of silver horn and baldric green."

    Taking Ringil to scare the shit out of Sauron. My god this quest is amazing.


    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:07 No.16889946
    You've got a point.

    That's a sound consideration.
    Once the Stealth Team finds where the Rings are, we can use their emergency transporter armbands to lock onto their location and beam down the X-COM Psi Veterans, or some Knights Inductor, whichever is available at the moment. They'll grab a Ring, and we beam them all out.

    Sound good?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:08 No.16889960
    Ah. I guess we can't pin THAT crime on the Shipper, but it was worth a shot.

    If we loot Ringil, do we have to put it back when we're done (i.e. is it important to Canon), or can we take it with us?
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:09 No.16889972
    It doesn't show up after the Silmarillion.
    -Maybe-. Most likely yes, but we should think about it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:09 No.16889976
    I believe the Aurors might be most useful at this juncture for removing the sword in a stealthy manner.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:09 No.16889978
    >He's going on a ton of crazy adventures today.
    We should upgrade the EMH to an Emergency Command Hologram.
    Or what about upgrading into an Emergency Combat Hologram? The combined martial arts capability of Bruce Lee, Jet Li, and Jackie Chan. He can even be holding a holographic baby in one hand, and a bottle of alcohol in the other, while saying that he's a Doctor and doesn't want any trouble.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:10 No.16889988
    It will never be found by another soul. So no I don't think so. Unless keeping canon together involves when the story says, "And was there forever and it was never moved from that spot." The story itself will progress without interruption if we take Ringil.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:15 No.16890036
    Okay, away team for the recovery of Ringil:
    Egon with proton pack (team leader), Aurors (magic), SCP (used to dealing with artifacts and containment), Delta Green (also used to dealing with artifacts and containment).
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:17 No.16890077
    Right lads, we've got a plan.
    Find Ringil, give it to BLU team's demoman. Have BLU and a bunch of psi-resistant troops wave it in Sauron's face.
    Meanwhile, our stealthy troops (Tosh, Aurors) find one of the rings in Barad-dur. When they find it, they record its position, so one of the Knights Inductor can beam in and pick it up.

    Then we hop over, and give the ring to Ahriman.
    What preparations should we take, in case Ahriman decides to backstab us at that point?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:18 No.16890093
    ...Stab him with Ringil?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:20 No.16890111
    Should the BLU Spy accompany the stealth forces?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:20 No.16890112
    I like this plan, it's a plan I can follow.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)22:21 No.16890120
    So. In the event of the plan to steal a ring not working / failing catastrophically, I think we should still try and find a palantir, so we can get a psi-resistant X-COM soldier to tell him that we've got weapons trained on the Ring that could easily unmake it - then DEMAND a dwarf-ring.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:21 No.16890124
    No. The BLU spy should not.
    The reason for this is: If the BLU spy gets near a corrupting ring, there is a very high chance of him saying "I never really was on your side" and planting a knife in the back of our forces.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:22 No.16890130
    Just a thought, but can we get egon and the other SCIENCE! boys to whip up a few extra sets of ghostbuster gear? egon and the other ghostbusters managed to build them in 90s earth with hardly any funding, so chances are we can make some more for our ground troops to use against paranormal foes, maybe even making the things more portable or putting them on a suit of power armour or shuttlecraft for easier deployment? maybe also get another oversized trap ready, maybe car sized insted of alkesh sized?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:22 No.16890133
    We could give whoever hands the ring to Ahriman a dose of RED-2. As long as he's not vaporised, it'll act like an extra life.

    You know, in addition to pre-fab defense structures, we should also get some UAV's and other modern-Earth robots and drones.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:22 No.16890134
    ..That is a very good point you are making.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:22 No.16890139
    Sauron would be wise enough to know," So you have the power to unmake my super weapon. You know it's location. Yet, you want a vastly inferiorer ring for it. Reason?" And if we tell him our reason(I.E. Preserving canon) then he will know it's a bluff.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:23 No.16890144
    I think that won't work.
    Psi resistant troops are only resistant. I bet Sauron is even more powerful than an Ethereal Commander, so we can't threaten Sauron like that.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:24 No.16890159
    We probably could, during the down-time back at base.
    Unless we find wraiths and other undead protecting Ringil, we probably won't need them for this recovery operation.

    Though they might be useful if Sauron sends Ringwraiths after our Ringil Team.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:25 No.16890166
    Good plan, but they're already busy analysing:
    The Black Arrowhead
    Defensive applications of Reality Emitters
    the Bomb used in the Shipper's vessel

    Our SCIENCE! Team is gonna be busy for a while.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:25 No.16890175
    So what exactly is our plan at this point?
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:26 No.16890184
    Goes like this:
    >> Research Fag 11/08/11(Tue)22:26 No.16890187
    What exactly are the limits of what we can produce via Replicator?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:26 No.16890190
    Get Sword
    Wave Sword at Sauron
    While Sauron distracted, steal Ring
    Give Ring to Ahriman
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:28 No.16890196
    And why do we think getting his attention and waving the sword at him is better than just stealthing in?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)22:28 No.16890199
    Your team beams down to the structure. It is a modestly sized building, about the size of a small house. Large portions of its exterior are covered in once-detailed carvings that the passage of time and the elements have defaced. Larger portions are overgrown with vines and foliage. A door carved of ivory is inlaid with silvery runes, with a flowing Elvish inscription prominent on the arch above.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:29 No.16890209
    >Replicating Ringil
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:29 No.16890213
    Can ANON provide translation?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:29 No.16890223
    ANON: Do you know enough of Elven language (see: Finnish) to translate those inscriptions?
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:30 No.16890230
    So he's casting his gaze/armies at the distraction team instead of at the stealth team. If the stealth team is caught while they're inside, they're fucked. However, if we can draw away forces and THE EYE, they should have a chance at success.
    I smell an Elvish Warding Riddle, boys. Be ready.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:30 No.16890233
    Alright, safety first.
    Scan for defensive wards, wandering PKE entities, and mundane traps.
    I suppose we should record everything; this is still a great archaeological treasure.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:30 No.16890234
    I doubt it can replicate magical effects, if that's what you're asking. Magic is weird like that.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:31 No.16890241
    <insert elven word for friend here>
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:31 No.16890242
    I doubt people on /tg/ know the importance of this place. It causes some man tears for me, but I'm a massive Tolkienfag so whatevs.

    Not OP describing it, I mean the place in general.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:32 No.16890258
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    Damn captacha, ate my image. Also
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:32 No.16890259
    I can scarcely imagine. The burial site of one of the, if not the greatest champion in the history of Middle-Earth. A holier ground will be hard to come by in the multiverse.

    Ensure that the ground team does everything they can to respect the site and its memory.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:33 No.16890266
    We might be relying on you then, most of us are fuzzy on the deeper lore. I used to know some, but I've forgotten more than I remember.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:36 No.16890289
    Fingolfin is a pretty cool guy; eh confronts Morgoth in single combat and doesn't afraid of anything.
    His body was buried by his son and marked with the Cairn we are now exploring. It's like the small, pious, stone-marker version of the Taj Mahal.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:36 No.16890291
    Well son, glad to have you in the quest.
    With knowledge and planning we can do pretty goddamn well.
    In fact, in the last world, we surprised OP with how well we did.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)22:37 No.16890294
    I'm flattered. Guess I'll namefag for the sake of it then. I'll keep the name while we stay in middle-earth only though.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 11/08/11(Tue)22:38 No.16890309
    Note: while in Sauron's presence, Demoman should get drunk. That would (perhaps) lessen Sauron's influence.
    Because if he's already more than half influenced by alcohol, how could Sauron influence the rest of him?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:38 No.16890314
    Proper meta-knowledge is the cornerstone of TG's success.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)22:39 No.16890322
    The Aurors are able to detect extremely powerful wards around the structure. They seem almost... honored to be in the presence of such ancient magic.

    ANON: "Working... Complete. Translation is as follows."

    "Seven Gates have I, and Seven Names.

    Eternally guarded, forever warded, protected for eternity from the foes I face.

    Yet above those Seven is an Eighth that watches too.

    Speak that Name, and remember the price of glory."
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)22:44 No.16890367
    There are only seven gates of Gondolin. But there are Nine houses of elves. The leader of the eight house is Glorfindel.

    Glorfindel. The answer is Glorfindel. Least I think. Anyone else have any suggestions?
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)22:45 No.16890378
    No no that's totally wrong. Forget that.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:46 No.16890392
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    It's like that other riddle: "Delivered by breath, scares the brawler to death. What am I? A riddle."

    See if the Aurors can do anything in their power to 'code-read' the warding magic and try to reverse-engineer us a little closer to the answer.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:46 No.16890397
    Suggesting the Demoman gets drunk is like suggesting the Sea remains wet. It's pretty much a given.

    I have no goddamn idea. Tolkienfag, you're up son.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:47 No.16890399
    Were the Valar not 7 in number? Then, the name to speak would be either Eru or Illuvatar, no?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:47 No.16890408
    It couldn't be as simple as Fingolfin, could it?
    Fingolfin, the 8th Gate to protect Gondolin?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:47 No.16890411
    ><insert elven word for friend here>
    Someone said this earlier in the thread. Not sure if it's a valid solution but it might work.
    Remember to give all answers in Elvish, not English.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)22:48 No.16890419
    Already tried man. I'm thinking about it. And we do have the internet. But that just feels like cheating.

    Well duh it's a riddle.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:49 No.16890431
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    Alrighty. Let's try speaking 'Glorfindel', 'Eru', 'Illuvatar', and 'Fingolin'. I'm leaning towards the last one, because only those who knew him would be able to understand and access the cairn. Makes enough sense practically.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)22:50 No.16890437
    Rectification: Fingolfin. Forgot an 'f' there, might have made all the difference.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:50 No.16890441
    Nope, fourteen valar.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:50 No.16890446
    Have we checked if we could just beam the ring out (preferably to somewhere unimportant so that no-one wises up to our presence).
    also if that's out of the question, what about beaming out the soil and rocks or whatever is surrounding it to make a hole, and then sending in someone or a droid/drone/probe to snatch it a half a second after we make the hole?

    If we cant teleport, can we use a tractor beam to do the digging? maybe we can send the indefatigueable on a flyover to yand the ring with a tractor beam.

    Can our scanners tell what sorts of things are guarding the ring we want?
    Copious amounts of nerve gas or teleported grenades might help soften up any opposition if we run into trouble, and we should have munitions put on our teleport capable craft incase we need to support a ground team
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:51 No.16890462
    I've looked and confirmed, there were 7 Valar "Lords" (not counting the "Queens") that rule over Middle-Earth. It is possible that Eru could be the word to speak.

    However... Gondolin might be the right way to look. It wasn't by the seven gates that Gondolin fell, but by Turin, no? An eighth "gate" by which Gondolin fell? The price of glory... Hurin?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:52 No.16890466
    We want to be as stealthy as possible though.
    Ideally, Sauron's eye won't be on the Rings, but instead on Ringil
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)22:52 No.16890468
    I agree. Let's try it. I mean Gandalf spent hours wasting his breath, so we should get multiple tries.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:53 No.16890487
    This isn't a Blow up and go mission, it's a stealth mission.
    The ring is in Barad-dur, Sauron's tower, and we have not yet located exactly where it is. Unless you intend to teleport out Barad-dur, we'll have to settle for infiltration and looting.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:56 No.16890515
    Could it be ...

    The Gates of Morning?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:57 No.16890537
    We haven't been able to get a transporter lock on the any of the 3 Rings, so we can't beam them out.

    We also can't tractor beam any of them because they're currently inside of Barad-dur.

    Even if the scanners could give us an accurate number and composition of the forces in Barad-dur, they're constantly changing due to the preparations for war.
    All considerations for supporting an away team via transported support have already been made part of our standard operating procedure.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)22:58 No.16890550

    I know next to nothing about Tolkien lore. I may also be reading too deeply into the riddle as well, but here's an alternative translation. See if it rings any bells for you guys who are more familiar with the stuff.

    >Seven Gates have I, and Seven Names.

    >Eternally guarded, forever warded, protected for eternity from the foes I face.

    Seven gates that are guarded. Perhaps it refers to the seven scions of a royal house or hierarchy of some sort who are sworn to protect or uphold something that they're a part of.

    >Yet above those Seven is an Eighth that watches too.

    >Speak that Name, and remember the price of glory.

    Maybe an eighth member of those seven that was a bit of a black sheep or illegitimate was responsible for something world-shaking. The last line implies something very serious happened because of that person.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:02 No.16890601
    Considering that this is the tomb of Fingolfin who was the father of the lord of Gondolin. Turgon placed the Cairn of Fingolfin on the high point overlooking where he would build Gondolin, and it acted as a deterrent, as no enemy dared to pass by it.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)23:03 No.16890604
    Egon starts rattling off names, but only when he gets to Fingolfin does the gate suddenly shine with brilliance and begin to rumble open. Beyond the door of ivory is a hall of white stone and gold inlay, well lit by skylights that let in the sun's rays. Designs of trees, jewels, and vines wrap around the walls. At the end of the hall is another, smaller door, also set with silvery Elvish letters.

    ANON: "I rest, I sleep, and yet still I watch, looking over the land I loved dear. Though never again may I trod its streets or linger in its gardens, here I may remember for as long as it stands against time. Remember then, its Secret name."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:03 No.16890608
    ...I'm placing my bets on it being Filgolfin, but I'd like to add that he seems to have been known under a different name in Valinor, that name being: Ñolofinwë.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:04 No.16890614
    Perhaps... No, Turgon wouldn't have predicted the fall of his city and done nothing to try to change it. Crissaegrim doesn't work.

    The Gates of Summer? The festival that saw the fall of Gondolin?
    >> sage keeps the thread alive longer, right? 11/08/11(Tue)23:04 No.16890616
    "remember the price of glory" Sounds like we need to keep an eye out for traps, we should tell our ground teams to be careful.

    The price for glory may be death
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:05 No.16890635
    Could it be?

    No no it couldn't be. Meglin didn't betray the Noldor at the time of Fingolfin's death. It couldn't be.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)23:06 No.16890640
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    Polite bump.
    It might be hard to get something so small/magical as the ring with a targeted teleport. Easier when you're doing larger groups. Keeps the contact-cohesion / surface area smaller, helps the computers. I don't want to hang over Barad-Dur with a ship while we tractor-dig (although if we had TradeStar Midas, that would be an option (note to self: requisitin TradeStar Midas next chance we get)).

    A.N.O.N., scan the Barad-Dur site for enemy activity, life-sign density, etc.

    I don't want to attack before hand, or else they'll know -something- is up and make some preparations. Better to have the diversion team go in, mess with the monotony, and let the stealth team do their business.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:07 No.16890647
    Loth? Lothengriol? If I recall correctly that was one of the seven names of Gondolin, the ones that those who loved it most called it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:08 No.16890653
    Secret name? ...He was born in Tirion, which was on the hill known as Túna, which was in the valley known as Calacirya, in the land of Valinor.
    None of that seems very secret though.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:08 No.16890656
    >Remember then, its Secret name
    Secret name..Ah! The secret name of Gondolin!
    Try Ondolinde, the original name of Gondolin.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:08 No.16890659
    Fingolfin was the first answer, now there's a second riddle. I guessed Loth.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:08 No.16890663
    Lol, wow you guys sure you don't know Tolkien lore? Like, two other people predicted Meglin from that anon's post. Anyways, heres a little something for Fingolfin's memory.

    He gleams like a star
    And the sound of his horn's
    Like a raging storm
    Proudly the high lord
    Challenges the doom
    Lord of slaves he cries

    Slowly in fear
    The dark lord appears
    Welcome to my lands
    You shall be damned

    The iron crowned
    Is getting closer
    Swings his hammer
    Down on him
    Like a thunderstorm
    He's crushing
    Down the Noldor's
    Proudest king
    >Blind Guardian: When Time Stands Still at the Iron Hill
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:08 No.16890664
    What land was Fingolfin from?
    Secret name of the land of the Elves.
    I don't know it since I cannot into LotR, but someone else may know.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:11 No.16890693
    Apparently the name Gar Thurion more or less literally translates to "Secret Place."
    Let's give that a shot.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:11 No.16890694
    I'm putting my faith in this.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:11 No.16890698
    Valinor? Aman? The city of Tirion on Tunà?
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:15 No.16890742
    Ok let's try:

    Aman, Loth, Loth Tunà, Gar Thurion, Ondolinde, and Lothengriol.

    Let's see if this works.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:16 No.16890753
    Messed up. Not Loth Tunà, I just mean Tunà.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:17 No.16890763
    But Loth Tunà is meaningless, since that's a name of Gondolin combined with the name of the hill he was born on.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:17 No.16890766
    We're at 250 posts in the thread. Might need a new one soon.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:18 No.16890783
    Dude, look at the post above. I was going to type Lothengriol, but then went to copy and paste Tuna. Forgot to backspace out Loth.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:20 No.16890800
    Why bother? It's just going to be a bunch of orcs, maybe some wicked men, and perhaps if we're particularly unlucky a Nazgul.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)23:22 No.16890808
    Understood. Also, deleted because I polite-bumped earlier and my 4chan+ wasn't updating because of moot's meddling.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)23:22 No.16890815
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    At the mention of the name Gar Thurion, the door swings inward, revealing a spiral staircase going down. Egon leads the others down it. The stairs descend for about a minute before opening up into a small chamber of worked stone. Another door is set into the far wall, with two statues of elvish maidens putting their fingers to their lips in the 'silence' fashion.

    Another elven riddle is present. ANON begins translating.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)23:23 No.16890819
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    >we actually got it
    /tg/ proves, once again, that it is the best board.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:23 No.16890820
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    Yes, orks with a looted Optimus Prime.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:26 No.16890845
    Son of a gun. Another riddle? Well, he was an Elven High King.

    Let's do this.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:29 No.16890871
    Statues requesting silence?
    Better be silent. It looks like the tomb is willing to let us move forward if we prove our knowledge.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)23:29 No.16890872
    "Be warned now, you draw close. Speak no words save that which you must to go forward, for the grave of Fingolfin is sacred and still. I struck seven times and touched the earth four times. I bit into Evil, but remain pure as the snow, and flew thereafter. Speak my name and advance to the final challenge."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:29 No.16890873
    Kinda sad my guess was wrong. Oh well.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:29 No.16890875
    Oh those elves and their riddles.
    ...Have the aurors cast their silencing/quieting charms, just to be safe.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:31 No.16890885
    >Have the aurors cast their silencing/quieting charms, just to be safe
    Those spells require them to speak the command words, you know.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:32 No.16890887
    Ringil. The answer, is ringil.

    At least I pray to Eru it is. Anyone agree? Or has my Tolkien knowledge failed me.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:33 No.16890902
    Uh oh. We have to get a 100% consensus on this one.

    By struck seven times and touched the earth four times, I'd say Ringil. It wounded Morgoth seven times (not counting the foot), touched the earth the four times when Fingolfin stumbled and finally fell, touched Evil yet pure, flew when the King of Eagles carried Fingolfin's corpse to Gondolin.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:33 No.16890911
    Yep, I thought the same.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:34 No.16890914
    Only one chance, eh? Better be careful.
    I cannot into LotR so I just hope people here know what's happening. Be ready to teleport out of the place if shit starts going haywire.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:34 No.16890918
    >I struck seven times and touched the earth four times. I bit into Evil, but remain pure as the snow, and flew thereafter.
    Sounds like Ringil.
    Ringil wounded Morgoth 7 times, and was beaten down 4 times. Ringil is also an ice sword, which bit into evil (Morgoth), and flew thereafter (was cast from Fingolfin's grasp when Morgoth killed him.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:34 No.16890920
    I can't think of anything else that struck seven times and bit into evil, and in his final battle Fingolfin was struck down three times only to rise up again, and the fourth time he fell he met his doom.
    And Fingolfin and Ringil were later carried by the Eagle King.
    So... yeah, gonna have to second Ringil.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:36 No.16890930
    rolled 96 = 96

    no its Sindarin
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:36 No.16890938
    That sarcasm?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:37 No.16890943
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    You have my faith.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:37 No.16890946
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:37 No.16890950
    Sindarin's the name of a language bro.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:39 No.16890973
    I know Sindarin is one language of the elves. I thought he was saying, "No, it's Sindarin." Is if that was the answer.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:40 No.16890981
    This is thrilling and challenging. I like it. Haven't had a chance to exercise the old Tolkien knowledge in years.

    I think we have a consensus on Ringil.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:41 No.16891002
    rolled 38 = 38

    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)23:42 No.16891004
    The door slides open to reveal a large antechamber decorated with many statues of elven soldiers raising their swords in salute. Two small aqueducts separate the floor from the walls, conducting two trickling streams from a pair of fish statues set into the ceiling to a worked stone whirlpool with a hole in the center.

    At the other end of the room is a magnificently engraved stone door, set with seven latches. One of stone, one of gold, one of silver, one of wood, one of iron, and one of steel.

    Twelve statues hold forth their hands in offering to this door. Each holds some object.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:43 No.16891014
    Get everyone to pull out their tricorders and start scanning for traps. Elves of Tolkien are a thorough and intelligent bunch.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:44 No.16891021
    The latches are to represent the seven gates of Gondolin. Hope this helps.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:44 No.16891024
    Fuck yes there are.
    Sure we can probably just use the alohamora spell, but that's not nearly as fun.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:44 No.16891028
    Er, to be more specific, have them scan for ANY MECHANISMS WHATSOEVER, whther they be in the walls or the statues.

    I'd prefer to loot everything, but not be bitten on the ass.
    Maybe we could just tuck a teleportation band on each item and do it all at once?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:45 No.16891039
    The seven latches obviously represent the Seven Gates of Gondolin. What are the objects held by the twelve statues?

    I do remember each of the Seven Gates having a specific guard, each of which required a specific object to grant passage. Tolkienfag, I hope you remember that part, because I can't find my copy of the Silmarillion.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:46 No.16891050
    What objects are they holding?
    Do we need to open Latches in the correct order?
    The Aurors could just shout "hax" and open the door, but I get the impression the soldiers would come to life and attack us.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:46 No.16891051
    Can we agree that OP is god tier for coming up with all this in like two hours or so?
    Because god damn this is awesome, he's really making it feel like this is the tomb of the greatest hero this world has ever seen.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:46 No.16891054
    I just remembered something. There are twelve royal houses of Gondolin. This should also help.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)23:47 No.16891062
    The objects the statues offer forth are a swan wing, a black statuette of a mole, a purple feather, a small arch, a green branch, a thick icicle, a flower of pure gold, a flute carved from an immense diamond, a silver harp, a black hammer, and a heart carved from a single huge ruby.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:47 No.16891064
    7 latches?
    If I remember correctly, Gondolin had 7 gates, each made of a different material.
    Maybe each latch has to be undone in order?

    Also, what objects are gripped by the 12 statues?
    Weren't there 12 Houses of Gondolin?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:47 No.16891066
    We aren't at 'loot' we are at the final Challenge.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/08/11(Tue)23:48 No.16891081
    Seconded. The riddles are 100% great, and I wish I was as clever as OP to have made them on the fly.
    Can somebody check if these relate to the Houses of Gondolin?

    Also, OP, you only named 6 of the 7 latches (stone, gold, silver, wood, iron, steel) Can we have the last one, so we are fully prepared?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:48 No.16891083
    Indeed. Seven Gates, Twelve Houses. We need to know what each statue holds.

    I suspect we must unlock them in order, with the proper objects in the hands of the proper House.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:48 No.16891084
    Oh, sorry.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:49 No.16891090
    This sounds right..
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)23:50 No.16891098
    I forgot say bronze. Sorry.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:50 No.16891100
    280 posts in. Autosage in 19. Ready, lads?

    Seven gates of Gondolin = 7 Hatches. Presumably need to be opened in the right order.
    12 Objects = 12 Houses of Gondolin. Not sure if we need to manipulate them in this puzzle.

    >I do remember each of the Seven Gates having a specific guard, each of which required a specific object to grant passage.
    Oh, so we need to open latches in order and provide the right item as we open each latch?
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:50 No.16891108
    The golden flower represents House of the Golden Flower. Who's leader was Glorfindel. That's all I can remember about the leaders.

    And we are keeping this damn sword. It's too awesome and we have spent so much time to get it we are keeping it.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)23:51 No.16891118
    Thanks! Glad to know I'm doing my job right.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:52 No.16891127
    >Oh, so we need to open latches in order and provide the right item as we open each latch?
    Where would we provide the items?
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:53 No.16891144
    I think we need to open the latches in the order the gates were opened.

    That's my opinion, hope it helps. Like always.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:54 No.16891154
    I don't know nearly enough about Tolkien to help so I'm just waiting for someone else to solve the puzzle.
    If it doesn't work we could theoretically Alohmora the door, but A. that feels cheap, and B. we're likely to get assraped somehow.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)23:55 No.16891159
    One of the Aurors scans around with his loaned tricorder. He begins to open his mouth to report his findings, then swiftly shuts it, pantomiming as best he can that there are indeed mechanisms behind the walls.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:55 No.16891163
    Well, it is never seen again in any canon I'm aware of, I would say we earned it by the time we reach it.
    Though I think we'll need to find someone more suitable to wield it eventually. Demoman using it is funny, but doesn't feel right, but I'll have to do for now.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:56 No.16891169
    Alright, the relevant story would be 'Of Tuor and his coming to Gondor', which is found in Tolkein's Unfinished Tales, and certain editions of the Silmarillion.
    I'm going to see if I can find more information.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:56 No.16891173
    Beam down a bunch of whiteboards and dry-erase markers.
    That'll make communication easier.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:57 No.16891188
    Well, Tolkienfag doesn't know.
    Either ANON needs to feed us hints about the 12 houses and 7 gates, or we need to Hax the door open, or we just leave the thread overnight and wait for someone who knows more about the Silmarillion to answer it for us.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:57 No.16891191
    So, wood, stone, bronze, iron, silver, gold and steel would be the order.

    Just to be sure, can we see any markings? Any inscriptions? Anything that would indicate what we should do?

    What do the statues look like, by the way? Any particularities? If the statue of the King doesn't hold the object representing the House of Turgon, we need to know.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)23:58 No.16891203
    On an unrelated note, was the the suggestion for saving the life of elf that Ahriman killed ever acted upon? I know we didn't do anything that would have gotten in the way of that, just a beam-up and time with the EMH.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/08/11(Tue)23:59 No.16891209
    Would that make to much noise though? Or is it just words that will set off the wards?

    So...I'm really thinking here. I'm trying to remember so much right now.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/09/11(Wed)00:00 No.16891219
    We're making progress. Thank GOD I have a copy of the Silmarillion on hand from my sister. We have the order of the latches, and we just need to make sure the objects match with the Houses the bearing statues represent. If it comes down to that, we can just make the associations (i.e. Thlim Doldrin = Mole, Thlim Galdon = Branch, etc.)
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:00 No.16891224
    You know what sucks? I HAVE a copy of the Lost Tales and the Silmarillion, but with no idea where to start.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:01 No.16891229
    I'm downloading the story in etext form and should have it in a couple minutes.
    Try not to kill us all in the mean time.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:03 No.16891241
    We won't. We already have a decent logic to follow, we just need the details.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/09/11(Wed)00:03 No.16891243
    Sold my Similarion and Lost Tales. Regretting this, like I knew I would.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:04 No.16891248

    By the way, I think we're in autosage.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:05 No.16891253
    Thanks Tolkienfags. My Tolkien-fu is weak, but my Google-fu is strong. Going off keywords from ya'll I got this:
    >> Fireman Prime 11/09/11(Wed)00:05 No.16891255
    Found confirmation of the 12 Houses and their Emblams in 'The Fall of Gondolin'. The items all line up with the houses of Gondolin. We just need to figure out what to do with the information
    Yeah, it's time for archive-friends to do their magic.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:05 No.16891257
    We're in autosage. I trust in the rest of you, but cannot offer any help.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/09/11(Wed)00:05 No.16891258
    This. Check if items match statues. Good use of the actual names for the houses Fireman. And again, hating my rash decision of selling my books.
    >> OP 11/09/11(Wed)00:06 No.16891260
    All of the statues seem to be of ancient elvish nobles. The only peculiar one is the statue holding the ruby heart, who bears a crown on his head and seems to be designed as more regal and richly dressed than the others. He also appears the youngest.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/09/11(Wed)00:08 No.16891279
    Oh please. Once you've read Tales once it's down. Similarion is slow in the beginning, but gets better. I still have my Hobbit and LOTR books.

    I did notice each item did represent each house. Did think it could be important though.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:10 No.16891289
    >their emblems the moon and the sun and the scarlet heart [of Finwë Nólemë].
    I'm guessing the ruby heart would be that last one.
    So along with the crown, I think we can confirm that for the House of the King.
    >> Fireman Prime 11/09/11(Wed)00:10 No.16891292
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    Yep, that's definitely The House Of The King (The house of Fingolfin and King Turgon).
    It all matches up. Even the order of the annunciation of the items by OP lines up with the presented order of the Houses. We know the order of the latch-openings, so we just need to figure out what to do with the presented items...
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:10 No.16891294
    >The only peculiar one is the statue holding the ruby heart, who bears a crown on his head and seems to be designed as more regal and richly dressed than the others
    That's probably King Turgon. And he's supposed to be holding that ruby, if I remember correctly. We need to confirm that the other statues are holding the correct items, and we should be ready to start.

    Thread's been archived.
    I wanted to include 'Mechagodzilla in Kyoto: Middle-Earth edition', but decided it could wait until we actually put the plan into practice.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/09/11(Wed)00:12 No.16891305
    Oh, Finwe just reminded me of Fingolfin's Quenya name. Nolofinwe. Probably not helpful though.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:18 No.16891356
    If all the statues are holding the right items, I say we simply undo the latches in the right order.

    I mean, honestly, by this point the mechanisms are probably just the one to open the vault/crypt where Fingolfin is interred, not deathly traps. I suspect that the entire setup and warning is just a way to make intruders panic and/or speak, thereby activating the magic that would doom them. The logic being that real visitors/mourners wouldn't even need to be reminded to stay silent, as their grief and mourning would do it for them.
    >> OP 11/09/11(Wed)00:19 No.16891363

    New thread.
    >> Tolkienfag 11/09/11(Wed)00:19 No.16891367
    You know this is the first time I've taken part in this quest. And you know, when I saw it going on, I thought it was just a horrible crossover game. Like Narrator didn't understand the universe he was in. Canonical mistakes being made left and right. I didn't look at the thread itself just glanced at it.

    I was totally wrong, this quest is AMAZING.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/11(Wed)00:20 No.16891370
    Hm. I'm looking through the story and I'm not getting anything useful.
    Like it seems like there isn't any specific item or password for opening the gates, just the order is Wood, Stone, Bronze, Wrought Iron, Silver, Gold, and Steel.
    Which is odd since there aren't any keys are there?

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