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    586 KB TG Quest 14: Warhammer of the Ring OP 11/07/11(Mon)22:35 No.16877258  
    Last thread: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16852204/

    Short version:
    You are the command crew of the Transpace Guard Ship, "The Oncoming Storm," a fast and furious cruiser outfitted with some of the most devastating weapons and advanced analysis facilities the worlds have seen. Your mission is to investigate a mysterious Event that caused massive distortions all over this region of time-space, and to fix what has been made wrong. Your journeys have taken you far and wide as you rescued several Transpace Guard bases and made contact with the TSAB in your search for clues. You were visited by the G-Man, and encountered the Orz. You even went so far as to assault and detonate a Rewriter Bomb on a world that had been overrun with crossovers and SUEs. But your latest challenge may not be one that can be won through massive orbital bombardments...

    You have arrived at a Middle Earth, and found very close to Rivendell, a gateway to another world forged of Chaos. What's more, you have located Ahriman and a Thousand Sons bodyguard moving in secret towards the elvish city! And who is this mysterious stranger Tosh has apprehended in that city's feasting hall?

    Find out! On tonight's exciting episode of TG QUEST!
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)22:37 No.16877289
    For those of you who want more details:
    7.) http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16760239/
    8.) http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16791722/
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)22:38 No.16877308

    1 TGS Cruiser with Sensor, Containment Bay, Labs, and Weapons upgrades, The Oncoming Storm.
    1 Victory-II Star Destroyer, the Relentless
    1 Defiant-class Starship, the Indefatigable.
    1 Overlord-class Dropship.
    2 Leopard-class Dropship.
    1 Al'Kesh Bomber/Transport. (Asgard Teleporters)

    Aboard the Victory-II you have 1 squadron of VF-25s, and 1 squadon of TIE-Defenders, as well as 1 Gunstar, Char in Hyaku Shiki, and Crowe in Brasta.

    Aboard the Overlord you have a team of six Tomahawk Destroids, 4 Hellstar Battlemechs, 2 Mad Cat Battlemechs, and 4 M270 MLRSes.

    You have enlisted the services of BLU team, Spike Spiegal, Egon Spengler, Carl “Mouse” Sampson, Star-Lord, and Gabriel Tosh. All have been given Phaser Rifles for a non-lethal option.

    You have the following troops, all with kinetic barriers, Shadowrun gear, and reality emitters.
    1 squad (12/12) of UNIT troops with Power Armor, Fallout energy weapons, and A280 Blaster Rifles.
    1 squad (12/12) of SCP troopers with Tiberium enhanced lasers, Phaser Rifles, and Advanced Power Armor mk 2
    1 squad (12/12) of Sandmen with Mass Rifles.
    1 squad (12/12) of Delta Greens with Chinese Stealth Armor, Mass Rifles, and A280 Blaster Rifles
    3 Mobile Infantry in Marauders equipped with Panther Assault Cannons and Phaser Rifles.
    1 Emergency Medical Hologram with mobile emitter.
    1 Auror team with prototype NOD armor and AK-47 backup weapons
    2 (24/24) Reasonable Marines Tactical Squads
    1 X-COM Veteran Squad. (12/12)
    20 X-COM scientists.

    You have 1 NOD ICBM attached to a hardpoint on the Storm, 20 nannybags, 12 reconstruction tanks, 6 shots of RED-2, 15 nuclear warheads, The Big One dud, 6 Fat Mans with 30 mininukes,12 assault rifles, 12 10mm pulse rifles, and 12 Marsec MA-11 laser rifles in reserve.
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)22:46 No.16877401
    Guess I'll post the long summary while I wait.


    You are the command crew of the Oncoming Storm, a transdimensional vessel in the service of the Transpace Guard, an organization dedicated to protecting reality in its myriad forms from the various threats to its existence.

    The TG stands vigilant against such terrors as S.U.E.s, twisted entities that leech and warp any world they inhabit, space-time breaches that allow worlds to mingle and merge with each other known as Crossovers, and the many, many people who attempt to exploit the various planes and "Canons" to their own agendas.

    Not too long ago, a massive disturbance in time-space ripped great holes in the fabric of reality, causing great distortions in this sector of TG's guarded space. Unfortunately, this sector being new and underfunded, the best they could send out was you.

    Swiftly rallying a crew for your ship with the aid of Sector Manager Garret Holtz, you set out to begin your investigation...

    You first went to check on a TG monitoring station that had sent out a distress call. You arrived to find not only the station, but the entire planet devoid of all sentient life save a small group of strange alien ships. The aliens, calling themselves the Orz, related a bizarre tale of how they came to arrive there, while other teams investigated the station and the surface of the alternate Earth, of the C&C Canon.
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)22:46 No.16877411
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    The teams found foreboding evidence on the planet below of experiments being performed by the Brotherhood of Nod into Chronosphere research. They discovered that whatever fate befall the planet, Kane escaped before it happened. You then decided to loot the complex and ally with the Orz, allowing them to tag along since they seemed to enjoy fighting. You kept them on as allies even when it became clear they were behind the disappearance of the planet's populace, perhaps following the adage of, "Keep your enemies closer."

    In addition to that, logs from the station and an artifact pulled from a debris field around Mars indicated that two interdimensional ships, a Void Engineer vessel and a Chaos Battleship fought a terrible battle just before the Event. Their location was dead center in the Event's effect radius.

    Deciding to gather more troops and gear before investigating, you returned to base, filed your report, spent your funding, and traveled to the second largest TG base in hopes of gaining more resources.

    Upon arriving you found the planet, part of the Shadowrun cluster, invaded and occupied by drow led by a Supernatural Unbalanced Entity, a S.U.E. Making good use of Shadowrunners and the Orz, you managed to engage and destroy the Drow spacefleet in orbit, as well as kill the SUE, a drow priestess-princess with a stupidly long name that the 'Runners had nicknamed "The Royal Pain." With the death of the SUE, Ares Macrotechnology and Saeder-Krupp led a massive counterattack that as you left, was well on its way to massacring the drow on planet. With the drow out of the picture, the local hidden TG base was free to lift their security lockdown and resume operations.
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)22:48 No.16877429
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    You also managed to determine that the drow were brought here by an astral call from Spider that pierced the veil between worlds due to the Event. He also mentioned that amidst the flood of voices the Event opened to him, he recalled one word stood out. "Stob." This same word was mentioned in the recovered observation recording of the Void Engineer battle, an intercepted message from the ship mentioning the same.

    All this being done you returned to base, received, and spent more funding.

    Setting out once again to investigate loss of contact with another base, you arrived at a Fallout verse to find the battle of Hoover Dam being interrupted by an army of mutated anthropomorphic animals, the Ranks of the Fit. They were led by a minor SUE that was easily killed, and their forces were decimated thanks to the Storm's newly acquired air power, VF-25s and Tie Defenders. However, during the fight, a potent mutagen they had plotted to contaminate the Dam's waters with was breached. A combination of F.E.V. and the T.G.R.I. Ooze, this unholy mixture was central to the dead SUE's plan. An unlucky Auror was infected and began to mutate, but he was recovered in time for treatment. A team of Destroids set down to guard the infectious barrels while you decided what to do next.

    While Egon and the E.M.H researched the mutagen, you sent teams of your troops out to loot caches of high technology in the wastelands, desperate to bolster your own meager resources with whatever the ravaged world could offer you. You walked away with a nice haul of power armor, advanced weapons, and nuclear warheads. Finally, Egon reports that the substance, called “F.E.M.” for Forced Evolutionary Mutagen, is vulnerable to destruction when bathed in a reality stabilization field, such as that given off by reality emitters. Now knowing the key to its destruction, you wiped the planet clean of the contamination and lifted off after an almost disastrous side trip to the Boomer's homebase.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)22:48 No.16877431
    Fuck yeah! OP finally delivers!
    Dude, check our thread. It's got some tight concepts, man.
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)22:49 No.16877444
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    On returning to base you were awarded with a science team of 20 X-COM scientists and a few sets of Advanced Power Armor mk2 for your troops. You regrouped, resupplied, and set out again to rescue the last TG base in the area. However, things did not go as planned.

    On arrival in the system, a Dark Matter world, you were quickly detected by the Greys, who opted to pull their ships back rather than risk a confrontation with the one mile long battleship that they saw. Upon sending an away team to the TG base on Earth, everything seemed to be in order at first glance. The problem seemed to be some minor base damage from the Event, and Mouse set about repairing the equipment. However, several things didn't add up, and eventually the team concluding the base had been compromised. Unfortunately this realization came too late, as Mouse had been converted to a Sandman, and Spike and the Aurors were infected by nanites picked up from the base cafeteria. Attempting to recover their troops and flee, the Indefatigable beamed aboard the away team only for Mouse to attack and try to infect the rest of the ship. Luckily he was subdued before he could inflict much damage. The Storm and its escorts made the transpace jump back to base.
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    The team salvaged what they could from the base and locked it down as best they could before returning to headquarters. Upon returning, they resupplied and refilled their ranks with a few fresh recruits, including Peter Quill, the Star Lord to replace the deceased Gaunt. From there, they set out to make contact with the Time Space Administration Bureau.

    The TSAB appeared to be dealing with problems of its own, its own territory coming under attack in the chaos. Despite this, the agents of the outpost agreed to share information with the Storm since they did the same. The Storm was able to gain a TSAB analyzed map of this region of space-time, as well as data the TSAB gathered on the Chaos and Void Engineer forces. With a few words of caution, the Storm departed for one of the anomalous words on the map to check it out.

    They arrived to find utter chaos. A world almost consumed by reality distortions, a mish-mash of many, many different Canons. Confronted by a United States run by Darth Vader and under the protection of a Death Star, the crew hastily gathered information while sending their Orz allies to attack the ships in orbit as a decoy.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)22:50 No.16877462
    Fuck yeah! I'd almost given up hope!

    I see someone already linked to our pre-planning thread.

    First thing I want to do is get a conference call up between the Reasonable Marines and ANON.
    I want to know if there's a chance we can try to negotiate with Ahriman. While he might view the Imperium with disdain and scorn, he's still logical and might be open to a diplomatic solution.
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)22:53 No.16877486
    And then you blew up a Rewriter Bomb on the planet after a massive Mechagodzilla decoy, battle, and the Orz showing up.

    Sorry for the long delay, but I had things to tend to. I might have to shuffle around my schedule in the near future. Reading thread now.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)22:55 No.16877508
    Yeah, the big questions are:
    1. Do we have any Silencers or Nullifiers amongst the Knights Inductor squads?
    2. Does Egon believe that his Proton Cannon modifications to the Indefatigable's phaser array will have discernible effects on Ahriman, or his Thousand Sons escort?
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)22:56 No.16877515
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    ANON pauses to assess the matter while the Reasonable Marines confer.

    "It is possible to negotiate with Ahriman, but dangerous. Although more reasonable than a dedicated servant of Chaos, he is ruthless, unethical, and extremely intelligent. Exercise extreme caution if you pursue this route, but it is not immediately dismissible."
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)22:59 No.16877557
    I don't know enough about these canons in question to contribute much, but I always enjoy reading these threads.

    Good luck, guys.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:01 No.16877581
    Hmm...even if our negotiations fail, it would have bought us time to set up our forces and ready them.
    I believe it is something we should at least attempt.
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)23:02 No.16877590
    To my knowledge those are special units, aren't they? I didn't find anything in the wiki that the Knight Inductor/RM always attach one to their Tac. Squads, unless I missed something.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:06 No.16877644
    >he is ruthless, unethical, and extremely intelligent

    ...Why, it's almost like looking into a mirror.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:08 No.16877673
    Let's at least try to talk to him, because I can't see a way to engage him without suffering heavy casualties, and I'm pretty sure one of the few things all the participants in these threads can agree on is that the lives of our troops should not be given up lightly, and ideally shouldn't be given up at all.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:09 No.16877690
    Since the Reasonable Marines are an invention of /tg/, would Ahriman even recognize them?
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:10 No.16877699
    Right. So we should tell the Knights Inductor to set up an obvious, but very effective bunker thing. Do we have anything we can portal down to start up the defensive perimeter?

    Make sure to put up a white flag.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:13 No.16877754
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    Also, does anyone like the idea of getting our hands on a Portal Gun?
    We can use Trek Replicators to equip a squad with them.
    >MFW we can deal with SUE's by sucking them onto the moon, or shoot acidic super-pressurized air from Venus at the enemy.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:18 No.16877814
    Okay, so here's my idea:

    1. Project Ahriman's path, and beam a large negotiation table in that path, a few minutes out.
    2. Team 1 of the Reasonable Marines will beam to the table and be ready to attempt negotiation with Ahriman. Team 2 will remain at the Chaos gateway.
    3. We have firing solutions prepared and locked in for the Oncoming Storm's singularity lasers on Ahriman.
    4. The Indefatigable will be nearby to provide fire support and to beam down more away teams in an L formation, to prevent friendly fire.
    5. The BLU Team will prepare a fully-upgraded Sentry to be beamed down if hostilities start, and Sniper.

    I think that's it. Did I miss anything?
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:19 No.16877822
    What part of 'actions have consequences' don't you understand?
    Do you really think we are going to get absurdly broken stuff without shit getting real on the opposite end.
    Besides, Aperture tech is so ridiculously unsafe I suspect that they would kill anyone who isn't Chell.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:19 No.16877823
    >get a Portal Gun
    And step on the G-Man's turf? No fucking way.
    That entire Canon is fucked over by the Combine and the G-Man. I don't want to get anywhere near those planets.
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    >And step on the G-Man's turf? No fucking way.
    Oh fuck, you're right. Never mind!
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)23:22 No.16877857
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    ANON: "Orbital bombardment of the area near Rivendell is not advised unless absolutely necessary. Collateral damage near the city at such a crucial date may have unforeseen consequences to the timeline."

    "Ah still have me prisoner, mon. What you want done with her?" Tosh asks.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:26 No.16877901
    Have Tosh, the prisoner, and the food beamed up.
    EMH to analyse the food and the dust, Tosh to interrogate the prisoner in the brig.
    We want to know what she was doing, and if she's a Canon native, where she got those clothes from.
    Also to have the EMH determine what the nature of the dust.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:26 No.16877902
    >"Ah still have me prisoner, mon. What you want done with her?" Tosh asks.
    "Didn't we already to tell you guys to get her medical attention so she'll be up and answering questions? Get the Aurors to administer some Veratiserum when she's stable."
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:26 No.16877905
    Wake her up, let's see what this lady has to say for herself.
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)23:27 No.16877909
    The EMH begins his analysis as Tosh carts the unconscious prisoner off.

    "You want me be gentle or rough wit her?" he asks.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:27 No.16877916
    Oh, yes, the orbital bombardment is only for if Ahriman is about to massively break the Canon.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:28 No.16877928
    What if he can detect we've got a lock on him?
    Like is that the kind of thing there can be a spell for?
    But yeah I'd say the Knights Inductor are best suited for this diplomatic situation.

    ...Ahriman isn't emitting reality distortions, is he?
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:28 No.16877929
    "Not too rough, Tosh. We don't know if she's an interloper, or just a native that was in the wrong place at the wrong time."
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:29 No.16877933
    >"You want me be gentle or rough wit her?" he asks.
    "Depends on how bitchy she is. I'll leave the definition of that to you."
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:30 No.16877943
    Not too rough, but you shouldn't put her at ease. Like keep your helmet on.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:31 No.16877951
    ...This Canon is the cornerstone of the High Fantasy genre. And the Transpace Guard doesn't have any presence here? Shouldn't this be something whose defense is crucial?
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:31 No.16877954

    Did we beam up Tosh already? I recall in the last thread about an order to beam up Tosh, the contaminated food that his quarry poisoned, and the prisoner to sick bay with some guards waiting.

    As I recall, the intruder turned out to be a chubby woman who had trouble breathing after getting a psychic blast to the face from Tosh.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:33 No.16877977
    We just did now, and Tosh is taking the woman to the brig to be questioned.
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)23:33 No.16877982
    None that you can detect.

    So you're beaming down a full tac squad of KI to bar Ahriman's way and talk with him? With Sniper and Sentry support?
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:37 No.16878014
    >Shouldn't this be something whose defense is crucial?
    Nope, it's what we call a Finished Work. These canons are far more stable than the norm, and are generally so heavily documented that a quick Chronoshift and five minutes are all the eventual Recovery team needs to correct things.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:38 No.16878028
    Not just the Knights. Do we have any shield generators or some way to construct bunkers? I want our guys to be able to weather the first attack so we have time to beam them out.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:39 No.16878042
    Full tac squad of KI, with a large table that they can sit down at.
    Sniper on standby to beam down; Sentry to be as close to the KI as Ahriman's interdiction ward will allow, Sniper will beam down a little bit away when the shooting starts.
    If we send Sniper down first, then Ahriman will detect him and either mind-control him or otherwise take him out of the picture. Better to beam down reinforcements, I think.

    Have the Sandmen and Spike, Star-Lord, UNIT, SCP, MI, and Delta Greens ready to do site-to-site transport and beam down, respectively.
    KI unit to have nanny-bags for each person, the rest to be distributed to the other away teams.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:42 No.16878066
    Oh, I forgot to include the X-COM team.
    Using the transporters on the Inde and on the Al'Kesh should allow all of the teams to be beamed down with 20 seconds.

    If we had the SCV's we might have been able to construct a bunker, but they're currently working on the Executor.

    As mentioned in the planning thread, we need to invest in pre-fab defense structures we can beam down.
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:44 No.16878086
    I'm still a bit confused. Doesn't that mean that Ahriman can just take what he wants, leave, and then everything will snap back to normal?
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:47 No.16878106
    Do we have any extra kinetic shields? Or reality field emitters?
    We only have a few minutes; if we have some extra's, we could attach them to the bottom of the negotiation table and connect them together.
    That way, if it comes to a fight, the KI negotiator can flip the table and turn it into a shielded barrier to fight from.
    >> OP 11/07/11(Mon)23:52 No.16878149
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    Sorry, you have no pre-fab defenses yet.

    This can work.

    Ahriman continues to advance until he and his band of four Thousand Sons walk into the small clearing you have prepared. He pauses for a moment, his bodyguard falling into a loose formation.

    "This is a curiosity. Space Marines, from a chapter I somehow do not recognize, sitting at a table as if for tea, in a world they should be ignorant of. Curious enough for me to be here. Curious enough for me to speak words instead of spells. Now perhaps you will shed light on this curiosity?"
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:56 No.16878181
    I'd say the Knights should do the talking.
    I'd recommend first greeting him, in a respectful manner, followed by introducing themselves and giving an abridged introduction of what they stand for and their current employment, before inquiring as to what knowledge he seeks to gain in this world?
    >> Anonymous 11/07/11(Mon)23:59 No.16878204
    Tell the marines to inform him of the rough outline of their history, should he be interested.
    The story and stance of the Aprior sector should be interesting for him, perhaps as a sign that there are 'heroes left in man', so to speak.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:02 No.16878232
    Once we know what he wants, counteroffer him the oppurtunity to assist us in correcting the Meta and offering his insights on Chaos and other such things, and in return we grant him knowledge and experiences which we doubt he has been privy to.

    Also consider telling him about these guys, but later:
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    >mfw when I just find this quest, and realize Middle-Earth is gonna be so fucked.

    We need Fingolfin, only he can defeat Arhiman.

    >No one knows who Fingolfin is though...
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    Agreed with having the Marines start off with their own introduction.

    Perhaps showing that there still exists humans who value knowledge, and who would restore the Imperium to what it should have been, will get some points with Ahriman.

    Were we able to set up the table like in >>16878106
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:04 No.16878245
    I don't think we should go so far as to offer him employment.
    He's too unethical, too willing to backstab us in his personal quest for knowledge.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:06 No.16878264
    >He's too unethical, too willing to backstab us in his personal quest for knowledge.
    It wouldn't be THAT hard to give him his own dinky ship. It's not like we want him sitting on the Storm's Bridge.

    As a man of efficiency, he would no doubt value the benefit of being able to ride along with our Transpace Jumps.

    Besides, since we no longer have the Orz, we NEED a new unorthodoxically powerful ally to give us an edge against Chaos.
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    You can strap a Kinetic Barrier to it, and do.

    The Knights Inductor formally greet Ahriman and begin a long accounting of their history as a way of answering his alluded to question. This will probably take some time.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:09 No.16878288
    >we NEED a new unorthodoxically powerful ally to give us an edge against Chaos.
    So, what? We're going to essentially tell him "Hey, we hate Chaos, you hate Chaos, wanna tag along with us and kick Tzeentch's ever-changing ass?"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:12 No.16878307
    Lo! The return of the quest!
    Kept the Waiting thread burning until your return.
    And then turn out to be eating dinner and watching Terra Nova when you do return.
    Ah well. Let's rock.
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    No, not exactly. We are going to offer him the opportunism to Travel not from world to world, but from universe to universe, to see things he could have NEVER seen before, and in such a short timespan I doubt he could take it all in.
    I personally expect that he will generally just hop down to a planet and sureptiishiously do some divination to find things of interest, rather than help us, but when push comes to shove he'll come through.
    Besides, we can ask him to do similar divinations to identify SUEs and similar, and he's strong enough and intelligent enough to be insulted by them and be able to fight them, especially if they insult him in some way.

    >"Hey, we hate Chaos, you hate Chaos, wanna tag along with us and kick Tzeentch's ever-changing ass?"
    Well, we DO have the technology!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:13 No.16878312
    Sounds to me like an excuse to cut to our other little interloper.
    Has the analysis been completed on what she was sprinkling onto the food?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:13 No.16878314
    Okay, while they're doing that, weapons check:
    We have 6 shots of RED-2 (backs up a person's mind into their skin, does an auto-repair, upload from back-up, and reboot of a person if they're killed).
    Previously, we gave out shots to: Tosh, the Aurors, Spike, Star-Lord.
    Their shots of RED-2 should still be good. We don't need to give any to the BLU Team because their Engineer has already set them up with his respawn technology.
    Is there anyone we should give the next set of shots to?

    With the nanny-bags, as long as a person isn't outright disintegrated or have their brain splattered, they should be salvageable and able to be revived in the reconstruction tanks.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)00:16 No.16878332
    While the Knights Inductor explain their history, you receive a comm from Tosh.

    "Da gurl's name be Florence Smith. She says she belongs to the Shipper Union, and that we have no right to hold her prisoner. I tink maybe you best be askin' the questions for this one."

    Tosh turns to camera to the pudgy woman, her hands bound and in a chair. She stares at the lens with unbridled indignation.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:17 No.16878335
    Just a recap of the ideas kicked around in the Waiting thread:

    #1 Keep Spike and the Sandmen WELL clear of that shit. Have them continue on to town, shift focus to using those hypnotic voices to discourage people from investigating any commotion we're about to cause.
    #2 Beam up the slain elf. See to reviving him and returning him later. Possible interrogation if we suspect he was slain for more than just being in the wrong place.
    #3 Have the captured agent locked down and examined. Figure out what was being sprinkled and scan for more contamination of such. If it turns out to be seasoning, interrogate the subject to find out where they got those clothes from. Put Tosh on that then.
    EMH to examine the food, agent to be beamed to the brig, and Delta Greens to be stationed outside with Tosh when he interrogates, to act as intimidation, and backup (if the agent turns out be more than she appears). Aurors on standby to obliviate the agent's memory if she turns out to be a native.
    #4 If we haven't already, get the second Reasonable Marine squad between Ahriman and town via Al'Kesh transporter. Inde should stay in support of Squad 1 at the gate, the Al'Kesh can move to support Squad 2.
    #6 Probably have to engage Ahriman in conversation.
    #6a. Attempt negotiation with Ahriman (I'm going to suggest we use a Reasonable Marine for this)
    #6b. Offer something of value (published WH40k material, he can do whatever over on the continent to the west of the sea as long as he stays there for 2 years, dataslate with all of the information we have on the Orz, including the stuff that if used improperly will get you *pulled* to them) in exchange for not messing around with the Canon.
    #6c. If negotiation fails, beam all of our ground teams around him beyond the edge of his anti-teleportation ward and catch him with an alpha strike of everything we have, including an orbital singularity laser strike, by all 3 singularity laser cannons.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:18 No.16878339
    >Shipper Union
    Oh that's right! The Event happens BEFORE the Editors officially form and other shit goes down, so the Shippers must still be at least partially legal.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)00:19 No.16878341
    The EMH responds. "It seems to be some sort of mind altering aphrodisiac... but it has several properties I have never encountered or been programmed to identify. I am attempting to analyze them now, but that is all I have found so far."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:20 No.16878350
    The Shipper Union.
    That band of outlaws, black marketers, and smugglers. I thought they're an illegal faction that we're supposed to crush at every turn, because of the damage to the Canon's they can cause.

    ANON, what's the TG's current policy on Shippers?
    I'm temped to just throw her out an airlock.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:21 No.16878357
    What's the analysis of the substance?
    Don't tell me it was some kind of freaking aphrodisiac.

    "How did you get here? What corruption have you wrought on this canon? Do I even WANT to know what kind of 'OTP' you were trying to arrange?"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:23 No.16878367
    Find out how she got her, and what she knows.
    Then maybe the airlock. Or toss her in the brig until we return to base.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:24 No.16878380
    You realize that 'shipping' can mean two very different things right?
    I'm pretty sure this chick is the more 'traditional' version.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:24 No.16878381
    EMH, tune our sensors to pick up that substance, let's see if we can find who she's been feeding this to.
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)00:26 No.16878394
    we can't be sure until we know what she's here for
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:28 No.16878419
    It's a fat lady. It's the shipping kind of shipper. And it's an UNUSUALLY AMERICAN NAME.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)00:30 No.16878430

    ANON: "The Shipper Union claims to be an inter dimensional transport firm. However, the Transpace Guard believes it to be a fraternity of zealous Meta-aware humans from baseline worlds that attempt to 'help' Canon characters 'realize their true feelings'. Normally this entails forceful interference with the normal flow of events including but not limited to, assassination, brainwashing, drugs, poisoning, magic use, and kidnapping. To fund these activities, Union members often deal in smuggled goods from Canons. The Transpace Guard has a policy of apprehension and return for trial if you encounter a Shipper performing illegal activities, but as of yet has no policy beyond close observation otherwise."

    "Ah, so you've dealt with us before," Florence says with a smile she probably thinks looks sly. "I wasn't doing anything illegal... I was just... trying to help some friends."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:30 No.16878434
    Berate her with terrible fanfic pairing suggestions until she cracks and tells us who should 'really' be together.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:32 No.16878445
    So what, make her read bad fanfic after bad fanfic and see if she cracks?

    BTW, if she ENJOYS them, feel free to allow Tosh to 'fix' her mentally.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:34 No.16878465
    "That is for you to defend in court.
    "Keep her locked up in the brig, we have bigger problems to sort out. EMH, tag that dust as evidence and put it in stasis when your analysis is done."
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)00:37 No.16878490
    "Ya know..." Tosh muses. "I always be thinking da Banshee pilots an' da Siege Tank drivers have some sort of odd-"

    "What? Ew! Those tank drivers are all big and gross and ugly! The Banshees pilots are pretty and graceful and would never like someone like that!" Florence wrinkles her nose in disgust. "That's almost as bad as the people who try to match Gimli with Legolas."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:38 No.16878498
    Shippers... Detestable scum. We won't be inhumane towards her, certainly, but we can't allow her to achieve her goals. The Canon must be preserved.

    Keep monitoring the discussion with Ahriman, it is currently the most critical part of our operation here. Keep in mind that we can offer him much more than simply travelling the Meta with us. Different magical systems, access to scholars of arcane and esoteric lore... why, perhaps we can even, with his aid, figure out a way to restore the brothers that Tzeentch cruelly destroyed by manipulating Ahriman's Rubric. Underline that we are not the Imperium that betrayed his legion and that we are more than willing to be honest in our partnership so long as he is.

    By the way, what was the Knights Inductors reaction/attitude when we told them we wanted to negotiate with Ahriman, a notorious Renegade/Chaos Marine? Did we brief them fully on the known goals and opinions of Ahriman?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:38 No.16878499
    I guarantee that it was either a Legolas/Aragorn shipper, or a Sam/Frodo one.
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)00:38 No.16878501
    i agree with this, she can "defend" herself in a court of law. BTW she does know that anything she says can be used against her right?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:38 No.16878503
    "Beings that you have never met, nor communicated with do not count as friends. I'm sorry.
    So. How did you get here, and how did that lead A FREAKING CHAOS SORCERER HERE?
    What, did you thing you could get Ahriman of the Thousand Sons together with Gandalf the Grey??
    Is THAT how you get your Jollies there, lil Miss Smith??"
    Rattle her a bit.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:40 No.16878524
    "Really? Then who's a better match for Legolas? I mean, even with their differences, the two of them did start up an unlikely friendship."

    Let's see if she trips up. ANON better be recording all this.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:42 No.16878539
    Not doing anything illegal?
    Than I suppose you wouldn't mind having a taste of your own medicine?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:44 No.16878558
    We should probably push the concept of worlds following their canon as being the proper Order of things. He has a thing for Order, which is why the Chaos thing chafes him so much.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:45 No.16878571
    If you would scroll up, you would see that their position is
    "It is possible to negotiate with Ahriman, but dangerous. Although more reasonable than a dedicated servant of Chaos, he is ruthless, unethical, and extremely intelligent. Exercise extreme caution if you pursue this route, but it is not immediately dismissible."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:47 No.16878589
    Thought that was ANON, personally.

    Well, we're proceeding by that assessment anyway.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)00:48 No.16878605
    "Wha- Ahriman? Who's that? No, I was just trying to get Aragorn to-," she cuts herself off. "Er... I, uh, plead the fifth?" She scowls. "Fine, you caught me before I could do anything. No harm, no foul, right? Just let me go back to my ship and we'll forget this ever happened. Especially if you've got bigger things to deal with. Like that Ari guy."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:50 No.16878623
    "Oh no. Your ass is impounded and going straight to jail once we've got this situation under control.
    "ANON, begin scanning the local orbital space and the planet for the Shipper's vessel."
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)00:52 No.16878641
    That was ANON. The Reasonable Marines concur for the most part, but aren't happy about it. Since he doesn't SERVE Chaos per se, he may be bargained with, but they don't like the idea of him as an ally given his reputation. They begrudgingly grant that this could be an opportunity to reform him or get him to defect, but the likelihood is slim in their eyes. Still, they will defer to your decisions.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)00:54 No.16878665
    "What? You can't take my ship, I had to sell a hundred Oolas to pay for her!" Florence sputters.

    ANON: "Orbital space is clear. It is probable her ship is landed somewhere on planet. It must be recovered before we leave or its discovery may upset the Canon."

    "Yeah! And it's shielded from scans too!" Florence nods with self-satisfaction. "So let me get to my ship and you can WATCH me leave. Everyone's happy!"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:55 No.16878669
    "Gotcha, bitch. Hope you like prison."

    Lil' Miss Shipper just slipped her ass up big time. She's fucked now, but this leaves us with a new problem: her ship.

    Depending on what size it is and it's capabilities, perhaps we can offer it to Ahriman to help sweeten the deal of not raping our faces with warpfire and helping us. Plus y'know... It's a possible breach of Canon in and of itself. We need to take it anyway.

    Get the location of her ship and maybe send a small recovery team if we can spare a transport or a teleporter pad or something. If not right now, make sure we do it before we leave.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:57 No.16878690
    "Our esteemed agent here caught you red handed.
    Now attempted canon corruption might not get you as harsh a sentence as having succeeded, but you are still looking at doing time, and.. Rehabilitation."
    Cue Tosh to be threatening.
    "So perhaps it is in your best interests to be as helpful as possible here to ensure a recommendation of leniency, and to insure you aren't connected to Ahriman. It doesn't look good for you, being here at the same time as him. You'd best tell us where your ship is, and a full detailing of what you have done and planned to do here.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:58 No.16878695
    Wait, where's our Auror team? It's been a few years so my Potter knowledge isn't what it used to be, but I'm pretty sure they should know a few "truth serum" spells.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)00:58 No.16878700
    >So let me get to my ship and you can WATCH me leave. Everyone's happy!
    "Ohohoho! You, are under the false impression that we can't simply take that information from your mind.
    "ANON, call up one of the Aurors and have them dig through Ms. Smith's memories on where her ship has landed, and if she's set up any booby-traps."

    Unless, of course, this somehow violates our Delta Green-ish operational protocols.
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)00:58 No.16878704
    you do know that Ahriman has the power to rip the knowledge of where the starship is from your mind?
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)00:59 No.16878714
    you know i keep forgetting about our Aurors so let's do that
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:00 No.16878715
    > Aurors and have them dig through Ms. Smith's memories
    Tell them to use Veritiserum.
    Also tell Tosh to hit her with a psychic pulse, a weak one, enough to keep her from doing something... rash.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:00 No.16878719
    Recommend enhanced scans in a five mile circle surrounding Rivendell. It's unlikely she traveled far from her ship, and if she had trasporters or equivalent technology then she would most likely have left the vessel in orbit.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:00 No.16878720
    Just to be clear, am I correct that the sale of "a hundred Oolas" sound like smuggling to you? 'Cause it sounds like it to me, and this is being recorded.
    We're going to need the records regarding that too, otherwise you might be facing MORE charges now.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:06 No.16878773
    The only Oola I know was the slave dancer the Jabba fed to the Rancor.

    Sounds like slave trading to me.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:06 No.16878783
    That's pretty much the position I'd hold towards that situation. They really are the Reasonable Marines. I think we can trust them with the negotiations, but still monitor and be ready to present ourselves and join the discussions when it is time.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)01:08 No.16878795
    rolled 39 = 39

    "Er... Ah...." Florence looks increasingly nervous before a pair of Aurors arrive and wand her. Her eyes go blank and her jaw slackens as the Aurors work with Tosh to poke around in her mind...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:09 No.16878807
    >The Event happens BEFORE the Editors officially form and other shit goes down
    I've been wondering about this.
    According to what's been recorded in the two threads archived on The Editors, MetaEarth wasn't aware of the Meta until after the great Crossover War and the Editors were formed right after.
    Where are we on this timeline?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)01:10 No.16878817
    The Aurors and Tosh almost simultaneously recoil.

    "It's FILTHY in dere, mon!" Tosh says with a shudder. "After this job be done, I'm taking a long shower."

    "Ships's hidden in a waterfall, a mile north of Rivendell. It's got a cloak system on it. Couldn't get anything else before..." the Auror shudders. "Please don't ask us to go in there again."
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)01:12 No.16878840
    All should hopefully be clear in time.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:13 No.16878845
    "Not to worry men. I didn't expect us to encounter these... 'things' so soon. I'll get a specialst nex time."
    Anyone up for recruiting Razputin? He may be the protagonist, but his canon makes tons of room for missions like this.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:13 No.16878850
    "Alright, we'll get the ship later, after we deal with Ahriman."

    Alright, we keep the Shipper in the brig, give the the Aurors and Tosh a few moments to collect themselves, and then have them stand by with the others in case the negotiations with Ahriman fall through.

    What do we have on the negotiations so far?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:14 No.16878867
    Do we have any Schlockverse Minute-After pills for them, sounds like they could really use it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:16 No.16878886
    Nah, priority was given to getting nanny-bags and reconstruction tanks, as well as the high-quality RED-2.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)01:26 No.16878990
    The Knights have completed their history. They are about to go into how they came to be here. How much information did you want them to state about the Transpace Guard?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:26 No.16878997
    This is just idle curiosity, but does Ahriman still have a body underneath all that armor?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:27 No.16879003
    Minimal. Let him know of our mission statement, and of The Event.
    Wait for him to say something. He should pick up on our unasked question and obvious oppurtunity.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:29 No.16879024
    Minimal. Only our mission statement, that we are here to preserve the Orderly state of affairs of a given Canon, and that of the Event which may have given new worlds from which to gather knowledge, but also given Chaos a great boost in power.
    Then see what he says.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:30 No.16879030
    Are you me?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:34 No.16879064
    How do they think he received their history?
    I mean I know it's hard to see any facial expressions he would make under that great horned helm, but did he appear to be interested in what they were saying?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:34 No.16879078
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    Of course not, me.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:37 No.16879111
    To quote myself: We should probably push the concept of worlds following their canon as being the proper Order of things.
    He has a thing for Order, we have a thing for a certain kind of order. Maybe we can work this out Reasonably.
    (I use that pun too much..)
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:45 No.16879189
    We should also push that disrupting said order can result in universal collapse, and hope that he's not into that.

    ...Actually, is it just SUEs that can cause universal collapse?
    ANON, what are the projected consequences of Ahriman doing whatever he wants even if it disrupts the story?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:51 No.16879246
    Reality distortions as the canon collapses, causing AND attracting SUEs which leads to further doom and distortion, eventually cascading into universal collapse.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:53 No.16879255
    In short, a world of Chaos.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:55 No.16879280
    Bear in mind that if things go tits up here, we can't rely on reality emitters having much of an effect. Ahriman is a powerful canon character, not an exaggerated SUE.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)01:57 No.16879300
    rolled 24 = 24

    It has the potential to do this, yes.

    Hey, that's pretty weird.

    The Knights Inductor begin explaining things...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:57 No.16879301
    Well, not a world of Chaos with a capital C.
    More like the crapsack we had to Rewrite to fix. Whatever happened there started small too.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:57 No.16879305
    Thought so, but just wanted to make sure. Like I remember back in the Shadowrun world, the drow army weren't distorting reality, the Royal Pain was, and the reason the Transpace Guard doesn't have a post here is because (as >>16878014 said)
    >These canons are far more stable than the norm, and are generally so heavily documented that a quick Chronoshift and five minutes are all the eventual Recovery team needs to correct things.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)01:59 No.16879318
    Well that doesn't seem promising.

    And >>16879280 is even less reassuring.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)02:00 No.16879322
    "How intriguing..." Ahriman says, his expression unreadable beneath his helm. "I may know a few things about this... Event. Perhaps I will share them with you, if you are kind enough to reciprocate with some information in kind?"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:00 No.16879326
    Not really, the work it was based off of was posted in an earlier thread, and it was pretty much that terrible from the very beginning.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:02 No.16879342
    well, yeah, but hopefully the thought of a world where the Canon has been breached becomes a Chaos Bastion will deter him from what he is planning.

    besides, he's opened a Chaos gate here, the possibility of it becoming one is there.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:04 No.16879363
    "Quid pro quo. Something for something. That sounds to be acceptable."

    Seems...promising so far.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:04 No.16879365
    I believe we can find that agreeable. However we must be assured that this world is left to its proper canon as well.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:06 No.16879389
    What do we give him? We have-
    - the footage of the two ships in battle
    - our map of unstable areas
    - the 'stob' thing
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:08 No.16879400
    We could also give him this information:

    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:08 No.16879406
    I was thinking that information on Tzeentch.
    Certainly he would find that a very tempting morsel.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:09 No.16879414
    I suppose there are things about his own home world he does not know about. Those bits of info would be safe, as well.

    Or information on the Orz.
    >Because why not?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:10 No.16879426
    That's Canon information so it should be okay to give to him, but he might know of them already.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:12 No.16879458
    I thought it be useful, since those two Horrors are probably sitting on the largest collection of spells in existence, probably rivaling Ahriman's.

    Otherwise, we could inform him of a remaining STC. There is ONE left that we know of:
    >A STC Library was located on the planet Hito. This planet had escaped from the Warp and was reclaimed by the Imperium. The library was hidden by the local clerical Order of Heavenly Virtues who managed to deceive Imperial agents as to the library's existence to keep its secrets out of the Imperium's hands.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)02:13 No.16879483
    "In that case, this is what I require," Ahriman points towards Rivendell. "I have come here because I have learned that place is filled with elven lore. I want that knowledge. There is also... a small thing I have been told about. A golden ring imbued with sorcerous power. Give me these things and I will tell you what I know and depart in peace."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:19 No.16879532
    > I want that knowledge.
    Done. Beaming the data into a dataslate now.
    > A golden ring imbued with sorcerous power.
    That's trickier... If you agreed to only borrow it for a time, and return it unharmed, then that is agreeable, for it is an irreplacable item in this world. Otherwise we could teach you of identical magic known as Horcrux in replacement.
    >and depart in peace.
    Not so fast, there, Azeck! We know you, of your goals, your past, and your mission, and we find ourselves in alignment. Should you agree to assist us, we will grant you access to worlds of magics unknown and whole universes aside from your own that you could not have imagined! Not to mention, our Transpace drives don't depend on the Warp for travel, so that's less hassle for you.
    What do you say?

    >does anyone like the idea of giving Ahriman the Shipper's vessel?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:19 No.16879542
    Their lore only really applies to this place, but we can likely arrange a copy.
    The ring however is intrinsically tied to this world's canon, not to mention just plain corrupting and unhealthy.
    Perhaps we could offer you information more to your liking.. such as information on the entity known as Tzeentch?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:19 No.16879543
    "The elven knowledge we could provide, through our various sources.
    "The ring, however, is required to complete certain events in this timeline, events which must not be altered.
    "Could we interest you in alternative knowledge? Perhaps details of the ring's construction, and where traces of its manufacture can be found, here, in this timeline and still active? The ring's creator is still active upon this plane; would not analysis of him be enough?"

    The elven knowledge we can pull from a copy of the Silmarillion and from the minds of the elves here. But the Ring must stay with its carriers.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:21 No.16879551
    The Elven Lore we could probably get easily, the One Ring... not so much.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:22 No.16879563
    I don't like it.
    Far too dangerous in his hands. Remember that he is unethical and will sweep aside all opposition in his personal quest.
    If we give him access to a Shipper vessel with all of the transit coordinates in its navcom intact, there's no telling the amount of damage he could do.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:22 No.16879564
    We should be able to scan and replicate any books and scrolls in Rivendell without a problem, so I think we can safely agree to that.

    As for the Ring, we should explain that 1. It is of immense importance to this Cannon, and we can't hand it over, and 2. As it is linked to Sauron, it wouldn't actually work outside of middle-earth (this might be a lie, but he won't know that)

    In exchange, we will need him to leave the cannon and seal the gate behind him. It might be worth giving him some for of communicator in case we ever want to get in touch again.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:22 No.16879565
    I don't like the idea of giving him anything.

    He's very powerful, and is clearly using the meta to become even more so. With the One Ring he would likely pose a challenge even for us. Imagine what else he knows about.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:22 No.16879570

    The elven lore can be readily obtained, but the ring is a big no-no. Explain to Ahriman that the ring essentially contains this Canon's version of a Chaos God; one that specializes in wiping your mind until all you do is serve it's master. There is no known defense against this corruption, since it takes one's own desires and uses them to break your will.

    Plus the fact absconding with the One Ring would do all sorts of damage to this Canon. We know what the ring does, and wizards and sorcerers are clearly stated to be among the most swiftly destroyed. For the sake of both the Canon and Ahriman's own safety, he can't have the Ring. Offer more alternatives, or perhaps one of the other Ring sets? The Dwarves aren't using theirs, after all. (trollface.jpg)
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:23 No.16879576
    >If we give him access to a Shipper vessel with all of the transit coordinates in its navcom intact, there's no telling the amount of damage he could do.
    Oh shit, it is true!
    Well, we'll just sabotage it before hand, remove the Transit drive and nav computer, then give it to him so he can tag along without making the bridge terminals start sprouting tentacles
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:23 No.16879583
    Not really a fan of giving him his own Meta transport. Offering to transport him is one thing, giving him free reign to raid canons is another.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:24 No.16879593
    Who "told" him about the ring? How did he become aware of this canon?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:24 No.16879597
    That ring? It's much less valuable than it seems. It's pretty much bound to the soul of its master, and will only truly work for him or him alone.
    If you call upon its power, that ring will endeavor to arrange your downfall in a way that will place it in its master's hand, or, failing that, will try to twist your mind and will to become similar to its true master.
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)02:25 No.16879598
    this is the one post i absolutely agree with, not so sure about the dwarf's rings though
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:25 No.16879608
    > not so sure about the dwarf's rings though
    Many of them are sitting in the stomachs of dragons.
    Easy enough to teleport out.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:26 No.16879620
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    Tell Ariman that we'll get him the information he wants but the ring is out of the question.

    Not only is the One Ring vital to this canon but it will consume Ariman if he takes it. I doubt he would even be able to leave the planet in if he had the ring on his person.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:27 No.16879625
    Seriously, this guy is already a direct threat to canon and a BBEG waiting to go off in our face. Be VERY FUCKING CAREFUL what we give him.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:28 No.16879636
    So... we shouldn't tell him about the Silmarils?
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)02:28 No.16879638
    so we all agree here: Yes to the elven knowledge and HELL NO to the the ring?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:28 No.16879639
    Alright, so no ring and no transport with a Tranist drive or, well, anything that isn't the bare minimum.

    Are they still around?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:30 No.16879657
    We could take out a Nazgul and give him one of their rings. As long as it's not the Witch-King it shouldn't make any difference in the cannon, plus we could claim it was better, because it was designed for human use.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:30 No.16879662
    We could agree to give him *a* magic ring, maybe he wouldn't notice the wording until too late.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:31 No.16879666
    One was thrown in a fiery chasm and one into the deep sea, the third was disguised as a star.
    All three are indestructible.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:31 No.16879667
    While all true, I was just thinking...Ahriman already knows about the Meta and the Canon.
    Could we convince him to give up on the One Ring if we just beam down the Lord of the Rings and tell him to read it?
    "Look Ahriman; even this world's version of Eldar's greatest Farseer, and Gandalf, who could rival a Daemon Prince, knew that to take hold of the Ring would seal their doom.
    "If Tzeentch were to you a Ring, said to possess great sorcerous power, would you take it? Or would you throw it right back in that beaked asshole's face for trying to con you into an obvious trap?"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:31 No.16879669
    You know, let's send A crew member down to the Shipper's ship and take possession of it. Just so we know what it is/does/has.
    Beam Mouse down to it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:32 No.16879678
    No, let's wait. It'll take an away team to secure, because we don't know what boobytraps and defense systems it has.
    Too dangerous for just one person.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:33 No.16879685
    Eh, lets just give him all these options, but don't allow him to be greedy. I want him on our good side.

    >One was thrown in a fiery chasm and one into the deep sea, the third was disguised as a star.
    Well, shit! I dunno.

    >"Or would you throw it right back in that beaked asshole's face for trying to con you into an obvious trap?"
    Hell yes, this!

    >Beam Mouse down to it.
    Do this. Tel him to disconnect the transit drive and wipe the nav computer or any other data storage, then burn the no doubt ceiling-to-floor posters in there. I wan that thing sterilized and stripped down before we give it to Ahriman.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:33 No.16879688
    Destroy Shipper's ship, take shipper to trial.

    Knowledge is a yes. Ring is a no. In fact, depending on the timeline the ring may already be destroyed.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:33 No.16879689
    One person that can meld with the equipment?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:34 No.16879692
    Maybe not go that far (who knows what else he would read into those books), but could we give him a mental image of the corruptive power of the ring? Can Tosh do that?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:34 No.16879696
    > depending on the timeline the ring may already be destroyed.
    Nope, we are present at the Council of Elrond.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:34 No.16879699
    We're at the time of the council and the forming of the fellowship.
    The town is chock full of main characters at the moment.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:35 No.16879703
    >, but could we give him a mental image of the corruptive power of the ring? Can Tosh do that?
    NEGATIVE on any mental communing.
    just go with
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:35 No.16879705
    I am very much against giving Ahriman meta capability. Even if he doesn't directly serve Chaos, he's still evil and will cause nothing but problems for the meta.

    He'd probably see the meta as a way to become greater than the chaos gods themselves.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:36 No.16879716
    >I am very much against giving Ahriman meta capability.
    We aren't. He will be stuck piggy-backing on our transit drive in a stripped down smuggling vessel.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:36 No.16879718
    Could Gandalf really rival a Daemon Prince? I know he's a demigod in mortal form, but neither him nor the Balrog seemed at that high a level.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:36 No.16879719
    I just thought it would be pretty cool to see a fic where Ahriman joined the fellowship...

    You may need to arrest me.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:36 No.16879720
    Still don't favor giving him the ship, and if we do we'd want the drive removed, not just disconnected. Also, we need a copy of the ships logs and navigation.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:37 No.16879729
    >we'd want the drive removed, not just disconnected.
    That's what I meant.
    >we need a copy of the ships logs and navigation.
    That is also what I meant.

    Clearly I need to read what I write.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:37 No.16879734

    It's been established that this is the timing of the Council of Eldrond. The One Ring is in Rivendell right now.

    I agree with sterilizing the ship of Shipper stuff, but whoever said Mouse should go alone needs to be banned from /tg/. We had Mouse do something similar and guess what happened? He almost was lost to the Sandmen. Away teams at all times, no less than four people at a time.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:37 No.16879735
    Yes, "we" are. Thanks for speaking for everybody though.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:38 No.16879739
    Also against giving him a ship with cloaking that even WE can't detect.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)02:38 No.16879743
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    Ahriman waggles a finger. "I know my way around corrupting artifacts, but... hm. Another Chaos God? Intriguing... but perhaps a bit too much. What then, aside from the Ring would you trade me?"

    ANON: "While a good deal of Rivendell's knowledge is easily replicated via our own archives, this primarily pertains to history and world-specifics. It is probably Ahriman seeks spell knowledge kept here, and while we have access to some of that, my shipboard archives hardly contains the whole of elvish lore."

    "Hmhmhm... So you say."

    Asking Ahriman to join is a pretty big thing, what's the consensus on that? I also need a majority on what to offer him instead of the ring.

    Captcha: Enchant arrays
    Stop giving them ideas, Cap.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:39 No.16879747
    Would Ahriman really need a ship? He got here somehow, and can probably leave the same way.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:39 No.16879750
    >One person that can meld with the equipment?
    Doesn't matter if you can meld with equipment, if you're vaporized 20 feet from the ship by a disruptor field. Or shot to pieces by sentry turrets.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:39 No.16879757
    I'd place the Balrog as less powerful than a bloodthirster, but moreso than a bloodletter.

    Greater Daemon
    Chaos Gods
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:40 No.16879760
    >Yes, "we" are. Thanks for speaking for everybody though.
    It's a bad habit of mine. Ever since I was little I always used 'We' instead of 'I'.

    >Also against giving him a ship with cloaking that even WE can't detect.
    Eh, Mouse can fix that.

    The idea is that he can follow along and help us out, without being onboard the storm and risking our people to corruption.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:40 No.16879765
    The hell we are.

    I would barely trust him with an imperial shuttle. tagging along with us, let alone offering him a cloaking meta-ship to raid across all realities!
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)02:41 No.16879774
    Who is going with Mouse, then?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:42 No.16879782
    A few of the other Sandmen, and...
    We need someone who can survive a disruptor field. Who?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:42 No.16879783
    We have no idea how freely he can travel, and his knowledge of canon seems limited already. Lets not give him the opportunity to go anywhere and get any magical artifact in the universe, eh?

    I'm against asking him to join us, personally. It'd be like having our own Starscream waiting to backstab us.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:45 No.16879802
    >Ask Ahriman to join
    No, voting against. He's too dangerous to have around. I'll be satisfied if he keeps himself to his own Canon.
    >What to trade
    1. Information we have on Tzeentch he might not have.
    2. One of the other artifacts that isn't important to the Canon.
    3. Some of the other pieces of knowledge that we floated, such as that on the Orz.

    No offering him a ship.
    We will need to come up with a way to get at the elven spell knowledge, but that can be later.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:45 No.16879806
    ANON, can you locate the magical signature of any of the Seven Dwarven Rings, or any of the three Silmarils?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:46 No.16879813
    Neg on asking him to join. He serves his own interests, and would only join us in order to get our information. Then he'd leave.

    The dwarves and elves don't use their rings because they know of their influence. We could probably acquire one of them. OR we could go full-retard and recover the silmaril from the bottom of the ocean, and trade that. There's also a vast amount of magical artifacts left in Smaug's old hoard, guarded by a handful of dwarves at best. They would be easy pickings. We could ask if he's looking for anything specific.

    We can get the spellcraft easily enough. Send in an invisible agent or two, Tosh or the Aurors, and have them locate and transcribe the lore. Scanners would be useful in getting it while preserving it for the elves.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:46 No.16879817
    > It'd be like having our own Starscream waiting to backstab us.
    He won't be capable of much backstabbing I'd think.
    Starscream was always on even footing with Megatron and the rest, but in this case? He's getting an unarmed shuttle stripped down to bare parts, and he'll pretty much never be on board the Storm or anywhere else.

    >such as that on the Orz.
    Belay that, that's a last ditch maneuver.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:47 No.16879825
    No to sending Mouse, or any other teams.
    We need all teams on standby right now in case this turns into a shootout. We can't afford to send personnel into ANOTHER hostile situation when this one hasn't been resolved.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:47 No.16879826
    As a side note, I remember facing off against the Balrog in LOTR tabletop and it being on par or even greater than a Bloodthirster. Or maybe that's my memory being faulty because it so handily rampaged everything I threw at it. Stupid 10 wounds...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:47 No.16879827
    It might be, barely, possible that Ahriman has bro potential, but it might be better to leave that at the friendly contact level. If we can convince him to leave other canons alone, there is some potential here, but if we cannot, we'll have to try snuffing this threat here.

    Hell he can do whatever the hell he likes within the 40k worlds, the issue is what he does outside that canon.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:48 No.16879839
    Against asking him to join. While we do seem to have common goals, I distrust the Thousand Suns

    Send Star-Lord, he's not doing anything right now and he is familiar with all sorts of ships.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:48 No.16879842
    Well, at least send Tosh along, and maybe and Auror. They might have a few traces of memory from the woman to go off of.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:49 No.16879848
    > Then he'd leave.
    How? He would be inside of a small shuttle incapable of Trans-space jumps. any 'leaving' would mean taking the time to try to open up a Chaos portal or being stuck in one universe.

    It's an obvious win-win for him to tag along.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:50 No.16879850
    Actually, with the dermal regenerators and other tools in the Indefatigable's medbay, and the EMH's expertise, we could easily make the Aurors look like elves and have them go through the Rivendell library. No need to use invisibility, since we'll just beam them down and they'll look like just another trio of elven scholars.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:51 No.16879861
    Waste of time. We just need someone in there to target each scroll with a hand-scanner and there you go, instadownload.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:52 No.16879867
    Are you guys forgetting that this can still end up in a firefight? Ahriman hasn't agreed to anything yet, and he hasn't made any indication that he'll leave.
    We still need all of the teams ready to beam down into a major fight.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:53 No.16879874

    I say we ask him to join, he's just as dangerous as the Orz were, if not more, but we worked with that, and we can work with him.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:53 No.16879875
    Mouse and the Sandmen won't be much use there, though, so it's no loss.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:53 No.16879883
    ANON: "Attempting... failed. My sensors are capable of detecting magical sources, but only of planetary-scale power. If they are such, it is also possible they are being warded."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:54 No.16879890
    Yes, but what if someone's already in the library, or other elves arrive while the team is still scanning the scrolls?
    Are you saying that Tolkien elves won't notice the scrolls being taken out of their holes, unfurled, and then returned to their places, assuming the Aurors use invisbility spells?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:54 No.16879897
    I think you misclicked whichever post you meant to reply to.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:55 No.16879901
    >"What then, aside from the Ring would you trade me?"
    How about another Ring? We'll take it from a Nazgul, since the Dwarven ones can't be spotted for some reason.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:56 No.16879909
    >Sandmen won't be of much use
    You mean the Sandmen who are equipped with mass rifles, that fire micro-blackholes that ignore most armor, shields, and wards, would not be useful against Ahriman and Thousand Sons space marines?
    Are you seriously saying that?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:56 No.16879913
    Well... that depends on what you're looking for I suppose.
    We could give you some other artifact, although they might be similarly tempermental.
    We could give you knowledge so forbidden that entire planets have had their populations... removed.
    Or we can even give you knowledge of your former employer, secrets that he may have concealed even from you.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:56 No.16879915
    >You mean the Sandmen who are equipped with mass rifles, that fire micro-blackholes that ignore most armor, shields, and wards, would not be useful against Ahriman and Thousand Sons space marines?
    My bad.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:57 No.16879924
    He'd leave by hijacking one of our ships and leaving. Or by staying behind in a universe where he could acquire his own travel, maybe by stealing a Shipper ship or a Combine vessel. Or maybe he'd create his own ship out of scrap and warp energy in a cave.

    This is Ahriman, the man who turned an entire legion into animated dust, the most powerful non-daemon, non-deity psyker in 40k, and one of the most intelligent and cunning people we'll ever run across.

    Assuming he can't escape just because we don't want him to is foolishness.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:58 No.16879928
    With scanners, we don't need to unfurl or open shit. Leave them right on the shelves, have cloaked Tosh run a tricorder over them, and we're fine.

    Though I think giving the elven lore will just encourage him to raid more stuff here.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:58 No.16879930
    So what, we'd be taking him along with us as we returned back to Sector HQ, letting him know where our main base for the sector is? Do you also want to give him a map of where our branch offices and the TSAB are located, as well?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)02:59 No.16879941
    Artifacts can be found just about anywhere. We could check up on the Lonely Mountain like one anon said, Smaug's hoard should still have a lot of ancient and magical artifacts.

    This world is chock-full of shit. Magical swords, rings, armors, etc.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:00 No.16879946
    He's actually a good bit SAFER than the Orz. There's only one Ahriman, while there's uncountable Orz, and he doean't even have a proper ship either.

    Besides, HQ has shielding and weapons against such things, Doomrider excepted.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:00 No.16879948
    Yeah, and working with the Orz was a fairly bad idea too.
    You can only take keeping your enemies closer so far when it comes to massively powerful threats.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:00 No.16879954
    Wait, since when could tricorders read writing within an unfurled scroll.
    You'll have to give an example of when this happened because I can't remember a single instance of something like that happening in any of the Star Trek series or movies.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)03:01 No.16879959
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    Yes. Give him directions to the TSAB, who runs on nothing but super magic and whose worlds are hilariously full of magic and magic accessories.

    What could possibly go wrong?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:01 No.16879966
    >What could possibly go wrong?
    Incoming Starlight Breaker.

    Or worse, he JOINS the TSAB. Infinite Library, anyone?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:02 No.16879969
    Or we could blast him.
    He has stats.
    He can be killed.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:02 No.16879977
    >Wait, since when could tricorders read writing within an unfurled scroll.
    It's a simple extrapolation of their abilities.
    Tricorders can identify genetic diseases and mental psychosis, they can read unopened parchment.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:03 No.16879983
    No, HQ doesn't.
    Did you already forget the explanation on Reality Field Emitters not being proof against Chaos and Warp effects?
    If we had such proof against WH40k sorcery, then Holtz would not be so worried about the Chaos fleet, or the worlds crossed over with WH40k.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:03 No.16879988
    Unfortunate, but I would imagine that any attempts at scrying would similarly fail.
    Can you locate either the Door of Night or the Straight Road?
    If he wants knowledge, the beings beyond either of those things have it in store.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:03 No.16879989
    >implying we can control Ahriman


    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:05 No.16879995
    I suppose they could scan the ink residue through the scrolls in 3-d, then "unroll" the 3-d structure, and then we'd have the scroll's information.

    Could work. Hell, we could probably do it with today's technology.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:06 No.16880001
    They are full spectrum sensors, of the sci-fi 'ultrascanner' variety.
    Honestly we should be able to read the damn things from orbit with a through scan.

    When you can scan a full three dimensional copy of something, congratulations you have the information as well.
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    >Joins the TSAB

    That is the scariest goddamn thing I've heard all night. Thank you kind anon, you've put the fear of god back into me.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:06 No.16880005
    He has lived ten fucking thousand years in a very dangerous profession and is pretty much one of the single smartest people in his universe.
    Do not underestimate him.
    Plus I'm pretty sure he's going to be as powerful as he is in fluff and books, not in crunch.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:07 No.16880017
    You have to admit, he'd be a better leader than those floating brains or whatever.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)03:10 No.16880038
    Actually, the Silmarils are critical to the eschatology of the LotR 'verse. The dwarves' rings, on the other hand, are not. I suggest we offer him one or more of the dwarves' rings, and perhaps some other interesting local artifacts. But what he'd probably find most valuable would be info on his own 'verse. Offer knowledge of the Blue Scribes and of Trazyn. Both should interest him greatly.
    Furthermore, Ahriman is frankly too damn dangerous to try and bring with us. He's immensely power-hungry and probably more than a little insane. Best to try and minimize the damage he could cause.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:10 No.16880041
    He'd lock himself in the Infinite Library and never, ever come out.

    Someone would go in to bring him a snack and he'd be a huge psychic abomination with ten thousand eyes and a million arms reaching out for new books while another million arms write notes in the margins and mouths on those arms argue with each other on the reliability of the authors...

    It would be a bad idea.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:10 No.16880042
    Have we considered giving him a ship with some very large bombs sitting in the hold, paired with a timer/ subspace communications detonator?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)03:12 No.16880052
    So while you decide on other things, you are confirmed that you're sending Tosh and the Aurors under cloak to swiftly scan through the Rivendell archives?
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)03:12 No.16880053
    We should avoid killing him if at all possible - after all, he's an important part of the 40k 'verse.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:12 No.16880054
    I say we make friendly with him.
    Offer him info relating to Tzeentch, the one he's on a supposedly eternal quest to discern the name of.
    And politely ask him to leave this world and take his gate with him.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:12 No.16880056
    I suppose that would work.
    Do elven scrolls have magic in them, such that the underlying magical structure of the spell is contained with the scroll along with the writing in ink?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:13 No.16880065
    Yeah, and make sure they have those scanner-things we've been discussing. I'd like to see if they work the way we think they would.

    As if he wouldn't immediately detect the treachery and mark us as hated enemies.

    Let's NOT try to backstab a man who's survived the Warp for 10 thousand years.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:14 No.16880070
    I don't believe Middle Earth magic works that way.
    Hell, I'm not sure we're going to find anything we'd call 'spells' in there at all. Magic is more tied to persons and items here.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:15 No.16880073
    >It would be a bad idea.
    And then they'd just have Hayate Yagami go and clear him out. She's a fucking SS+ rank mage powered by Lost Logia with AA+ class mage servants.

    > after all, he's an important part of the 40k 'verse.
    No one is important in the 40k verse. That's the gimmick.

    >Do elven scrolls have magic in them
    I believe they use magical 'silver ink' which is nifty, but not worrisome.

    > a ship with some very large bombs sitting in the hold
    Not necessary. Singularity beam targeted to onboard transpoder,
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:15 No.16880076

    And make sure to save a copy of those scrolls for our own databases. I'm sure our own magic users might find them interesting.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:15 No.16880079
    Have them use Federation tricorders to try to remotely scan all of the writing in the scrolls, scanning for the ink and then calculating its positions if the scroll were to be unfurled, getting all of the writing without opening the scroll at all.
    The scanning itself should only take a few minutes. The computers aboard the Inde can handle the translation work.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:17 No.16880087
    Deal fairly with him, but make our position clear.
    If he's interested in being more of an ally to each other, perhaps we should leave it to him to make the overture.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)03:18 No.16880099
    Do we have anyone with good knowledge of this setting? It'd be best if whoever we send down there can call Gandalf by his true name, just in case he starts freaking out. He is after all a demigod - best to be able to command Olorun to calm down in the name of Eru Illuvatar before things all go to shit. Of course, Eru's probably out there having a laugh at all this as it occurs.

    Speaking of Eru, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES give Ahriman info regarding Melkor - we don't want Ahriman possibly having the know-how to reshape the flesh of living beings to his will - because Thousand Sons with dragons, uruks, and trolls would be bad shit indeed.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:18 No.16880107
    >Deal fairly with him, but make our position clear.
    Definately. Should we inform him the only reason why he isn't atomically spread across time and space right now is because he had teleportaion wards up, and that we haven't blasted him because it would bother the locals?

    >technically, the Transpace Guard also easily capable of destroying the Chaos Gods completely.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:20 No.16880117
    So you're saying that directing Ahriman to the Door of Night, where the sorcerer can enter the Void and attempt to command the forsaken and diminished shade of Melkor to give him all his knowledge, is... a bad idea?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:20 No.16880121
    Oh, and should we mentioned we just came back from rewriting an entire universe and are not in the mood for anything less than professional cooperation?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)03:20 No.16880122
    rolled 16 = 16

    You mean using tricorders to scan them while rolled up? Sure.

    Tosh and the Aurors deploy down to Rivendell once more. As they move through the settlement, they notice a large amount of elves moving to observe a meeting of some sort around a stone pedestal.

    Also when you mention something as an option, try to be specific. "Info on Tzeentch" is kinda vague. As for some of what's been mentioned...

    "Yes, I already know about the Blue Scribes. If you knew their LOCATION, that would be more helpful. This Trazyn though... He I have not heard of. Another ring? Perhaps. I seek these rings to study how their sorcery works. I already know that the magic here is far different than mine. Another ring may work just as well, so long as it have appreciable power."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:24 No.16880159
    Wait a sec... I just came up with the perfect solution to our problem!
    We give him this guy: http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Radagast_the_Brown

    Like why settle for a ring when he can have a wizard?
    And the best part is check this:

    >When messengers from Elrond tried to approach Radagast for his aid in the fight against Sauron, they found his dwellings at Rhosgobel empty. His fate after the War of the Ring is not known. It is possible he either fled into Mirkwood or was removed by the nearby fortress of Dol Guldur.

    It's already Canon that he mysteriously disappears, so who's to say it isn't because a sorcerer from another dimension kidnapped him?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)03:25 No.16880165
    rolled 83 = 83

    As the Aurors and Tosh work to scan through the library, one of the Aurors inadvertently tips over a stack of books set aside. A nearby elf approaches, looking around to see what knocked them over.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:26 No.16880175
    >If you knew their LOCATION, that would be more helpful.
    I'm more lost than you are buddy. Your galaxy is fucked up ten ways from sunday.
    We know the location of a complete STC library from the DaoT.

    While I otherwise wouldn't I suppose, maybe... We could recruit him?
    Leaves a bad flavor in my mouth.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:26 No.16880176
    ...Does the meaning of the word 'hubris' somehow elude you?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:27 No.16880182
    "Appreciable power? Yes, if we get the ones we're aiming for, I believe they will do well. Made by the same creator as the ring you were originally after, so I believe they'll have the magical traces you want. Same corrupting influence though, but weaker. A man of your willpower should be able to handle it.
    "And yes, all of the information we have on Trazyn the Infinite."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:27 No.16880188
    We could tell him more about the Impossible Fortress and the Hidden Library, and about the many many plots and events that we know he's had a hand in. Also about Horus' role in having the Wolfs attack the Sons so long ago if he doesn't already know.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:27 No.16880193
    Silence magic field, or Tosh plants a suggestion that it was just an unbalanced stack. MASK ALL SOUNDS. Prepare for emergency bug-out.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:28 No.16880195
    >...Does the meaning of the word 'hubris' somehow elude you?
    Honestly? Yes, it usually does.
    In my opinion, if you've done well, you've reason to be proud, though boasting should be limited to the rarest occasions.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:29 No.16880209
    See, this is why I said we should have used the dermal regenerators and disguised them as traveling elven scholars.

    The Aurors should have a mind charm to make the elf believe that he has somewhere else he needs to be and depart.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)03:30 No.16880217
    rolled 3 = 3

    "Ah, but tell me who this Trazyn is, first."

    Though it is far more difficult than he thought it would be, Tosh is able to plant the suggestion and the elf wanders away. The team swiftly goes back to scanning.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)03:30 No.16880220
    Well, about the rings' power... The One Ring is, to be fair, several orders of magnitude more potent than any of the lesser rings. However, none short of gods themselves [Yes, Tom Bombadil is probably a god of some sort.] could hope to remain in prolonged contact with it and not be controlled by its will. Furthermore, the truth of the matter is that the One Ring's power, while immense, is mostly inaccessible to any save its maker. Its main function is to exert influence over the bearers of the lesser rings, especially if they are weaker-willed, and to prevent the "death" of its maker. So long as the ring exists, Sauron cannot be defeated. What he has done is pour most of his essence into the Ring - his dark will, his greed, his hatred. The downside is that he has invested so much of himself in the Ring that its destruction would mean his "death" - "death" in quotes because he is something akin to a Daemon, and cannot truly die, but it would (and will) mean his permanent banishment.

    Hm. Perhaps information on Horcruxes would be a good trade - after all, it's not like Ahriman doesn't murder people anyway, and there's a pretty good chance Tzeentch wouldn't let him die permanently, horcrux or no.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:31 No.16880223
    Alright guys, I've got to get some sleep.
    Try not to give Ahriman ultimate power, alright?
    Have fun.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:31 No.16880227
    "The Rings work by the forger placing an amount of their own power into the ring. The ring can then be assigned to perform any task, and will use the power placed in it to do so.

    We know of 19 other rings, though they're all in the possession of their current owners and would be difficult to obtain. There are a number of other magical artifacts: You may be especially interested in a Palantir, a type of scrying orb that can communicate with others of its kind as well as see great distances."

    (We CAN obtain the other rings, yes? They're all in the possession of their current owners, so we'd have to take them by force.)

    Melkor's method of reshaping required a permanent investment of his own essence, which Ahriman probably isn't too interested in. That said, let's keep that on the down-low.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:34 No.16880244
    ...Do you REALLY want a ten-thousand year-old Chaos Sorceror to know that we have access to technology that can rewrite entire worlds?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:35 No.16880249
    >"Ah, but tell me who this Trazyn is, first."
    From our records:
    >Trazyn the Infinite is an ancient Necron Overlord noted amongst his kind as a keeper of history and a preserver of artefacts along with events. He is known to hold technologies and relics that are so rare that they are both rare as well as priceless. His collection includes the fabled Wraithbone choir of Altansar, the preserved head of Sebastian Thor, the ossified husk of an Enslaver and a giant man wearing baroque Power Armour. Trazyn's nature means that he is loathed to explore the galaxy himself but his desire to gather exquisite artefacts to both see and cataologue forces him to go out amongst the stars as he could not afford to miss out on such events. Furthermore, he is known to often send substitutes of himself to do his work for him and many have become annoyed to discover that the Necron they had slain who they believed to had been Trazyn was in fact a Lychguard or a Necron Lord. On such occasions, the real Trazyn works to break through his enemy's opposition in order to get his hands on his latest prize to add to his collection.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:35 No.16880251
    Damn. I'd ask about finding Radagast the Brown, but I imagine that that would end in failure.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:36 No.16880259
    "Trazyn is a Necron lord, who specializes in the acquisition of objects of historical significance. It has been debated that his collection may not only rival, but exceed your own."
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)03:36 No.16880263
    "Ehem. Trazyn, yes. You know of the Necrons, yes? He is one of their Overlords, and, well, quite mad. He is obsessed with collecting various artifacts, trinkets, and even people for his collection. He travels the galaxy collecting all sorts of fascinating things, from the heads of Imperial Saints to the Wraithbone Choir of Altansar. I think the information he has would prove most intriguing to you. Furthermore, we have evidence that he may be willing to trade, rather uncharacteristically for a Necron."
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:37 No.16880265
    I don't want to piss on anyone's bonfire here, but how do we stop him from just coming back after we've left and taking the Ring anyway? Pinky promise?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:38 No.16880275
    > Pinky promise?
    Boredom and Chaos Travel. Both will diminish his ability or desire to return.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:39 No.16880283
    When you put it that way...
    Maybe, yes. He'll never be able to get his hands on it. Transpace Guard HQ is so far from here it isn't even funny, and the Warp is limited to our sector and nearby area, max.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:40 No.16880291
    Basically, we don't offer anything in exchange for him not taking the ring. We stay firm but fair that we simply cannot allow him to disrupt the Order here in that manner.
    Offering him knowledge for peace and his knowledge of the Event, that is doable.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)03:41 No.16880302
    "We can provide you with the location of his 'collection' as well, although I would prefer that be done after we have secured your agreement."

    I don't think Melkor's reshaping required him to invest himself, the way Sauron's forging of the One Ring did.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:41 No.16880303
    Or ask him to make an Unbreakable Vow with one of the aurors.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)03:41 No.16880305
    rolled 53 = 53

    "Yes... One of the lesser rings and this information on Trazyn. That is my price for leaving."

    Meanwhile, the elf returns as the same Auror trips over a stool, causing a loud clamor as he crashes into a table, causing the assembled books and scrolls to fall to the floor. This time the elf narrows his eyes and begins to advance towards the cloaked team.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)03:42 No.16880308
    Excellent idea.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:42 No.16880310
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    >Using Soul Magic
    >On a Chaos Sorceror
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)03:43 No.16880315
    Then give him a memory of some stupid clumsy dwarf.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:43 No.16880317
    All he would need is a meta-capable ship, and there seem to be plenty around.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:43 No.16880318
    Let's not go crazy here.
    Let's save something for further trade.
    We have no idea how much he actually knows about the event.
    He could just be playing us for information.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:43 No.16880324
    We COULD obtain one of the other rings, but we don't know any of their locations. ANON was unable to find them.

    We could offer to get him some other magical item from Smaug's Horde. There might still be stuff there that we can burgle.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:44 No.16880331
    I just want him to ally with us.

    I promote just asking him to drop his teleportation wards and we'll send him on over to there. It's fastest after all.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)03:44 No.16880332
    rolled 29 = 29

    Your quick commands save the day as one of the Aurors temporarily undoes the Silence spell to Obliviate the elf. After the Silence spell is brought back up, the elf blinks and growls in frustration, moving for the door. Tosh glares at the clumsy Auror that started all this, then goes back to scanning.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:45 No.16880337
    >the same Auror trips over a stool
    Who the fuck thought bringing Tonks was a good idea?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:45 No.16880344
    >Who the fuck thought bringing Tonks was a good idea?
    How the fuck did we get a Main Character?!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:47 No.16880354
    Dammit, I knew this would happen.
    We should have disguised the Aurors and had them do everything in plain sight, but NO, >>16879928
    thought we could go do this without anything going wrong.

    Have the Aurors use an Obliviate spell to get the elf to forget this and just go on his way.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:47 No.16880355
    >I just want him to ally with us

    I think we've been over this. He's only interested in himself, so the only reason he would join us is to make himself more powerful, which would be inevitable. So the next time we're on mission and a superpowerful artifact turns up, he's gone, leaving us with a TPK and a distinct feeling of stupidity.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:48 No.16880364
    (Twas a joke, given her notorious clumsiness.)
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:51 No.16880389
    Alright, so Ahriman's price is one of the lesser rings.
    Could we take it off of a Nazgul?
    Can we track down one of the ones held by the Dwarves?

    Now that we've got this deal on the table, we've got to deliver.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:51 No.16880391
    Maybe we can do some grave robbing and give him the Arkenstone?
    It could possibly be a Silmaril.

    Either that or we give him a Nazgul.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)03:51 No.16880399
    rolled 24 = 24


    One of the problems with a team all being invisible is that while the enemy cannot see them, neither can their teammates. The clumsy Auror bumps right into Tosh, who is knocked forward an inch, that pushes another Auror over, whose flailing arms whack a candelabra straight into a pile of ancient scrolls. They don't take long to light.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:52 No.16880402
    Silmarillion states that each time Melkor created a Balrog, it left him less than he once was.

    Eventually, Melkor, He Who Descends In Might, mightiest of all the Valar, was reduced so much that a single elf was able to grievously wound him in combat.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:53 No.16880409
    If we want to give him one of the Dwarven Rings, we probably need to fly to Mordor and steal it from Sauron himself.
    Like it's possible the dragons destroyed the Rings instead of eating them, and Smaug was the last dragon in the world.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:54 No.16880416
    Aurors, Douse the fire, NOW!
    Prep Obliviate Spells and suggestion charms!

    Also, make sure to check if that Auror is anyone notable.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:54 No.16880420
    Extinguishing spell, as per Goblet of Fire. Prepare to obliviate and apparate.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:55 No.16880426
    Oh god damnit. Well put the fire out then, and cast a restoration charm.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:55 No.16880431
    order one of the wizards to extinguish the fire, then beam them all back to the ship.

    See if we can set the EMH to a non-visible frequency and send him down there to scan those things. He should have a more delicate touch.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:55 No.16880434
    > and cast a restoration charm.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)03:56 No.16880441
    Hm. We can't get him one of the three, nor can we get him one of the nine - as all nine riders went out at least once after the council, I think.

    But we could very well get him one of the seven. Unfortunately, we know the location of only three of those... and that's the Dark Tower. The other four are said to have been consumed or perhaps destroyed by dragons, apparently. It might be worth checking the Lonely Mountain and the Long Lake of Dale, where he died.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:56 No.16880442
    I'm sorry, did we requisition wizards or a vaudeville act?
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    This is fucking ridiculous.
    Have one of the Aurors put out the fire, another disperses any smoke, and we beam everyone the fuck back up to the Inde, have them put plastic ears on and have the EMH use Federation plastic surgery to make them look like elves, then they beam down and finish the job without any more awkward moments.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:57 No.16880457
    >I'm sorry, did we requisition wizards or a vaudeville act?
    You forget, these are Harry-Potterverse wizards.
    Notorious for their lack of common sense and incredble survivability rate.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)03:58 No.16880462
    Hazards of requisitioning our magic-users from an inherently slapstick canon?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)03:59 No.16880469
    rolled 97 = 97

    The Aurors extinguish the flames and are beamed up just as a group of elves flood into the library. The last thing they see is the elf from earlier turning to the others, pointing, and saying,
    "Look at what that damnable dwarf did!"

    While setting the EMH to a non visible frequency may be possibly you then have a floating tricorder to deal with.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:00 No.16880482
    i think that in the future, only ONE should be actually moving, and the rest will stand guard to distract and obliviate interlopers.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:00 No.16880483
    No, no. Just go with the elf costumes.
    Except for that clumsy wizard. HE gets to stay in medbay and have the EMH give him a full physical. Obviously there's something wrong with the lad.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:05 No.16880514
    Alright, I want our sensors to locate either Radagast the Brown, or the Blue Wizards Rómestámo/Pallando and Alatar/Morinehtar.

    Like, when ANON scanned the TSAB station, it was able to locate 'magical signatures'. Just have it do the same with this world, since in theory there should only be a handful of those around.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)04:06 No.16880524
    I don't recall that part. Huh. And my copy is somewhere in my house while I am currently in my dorm. =(
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:07 No.16880531
    Let's send mister butterfingers to the Long Lake to search Smaug's carcass for any magic rings.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)04:09 No.16880540
    A space station is a tad easier to scan than a planet.

    This is fantastic. Spike and the Sandmen can be the band/opening act, and then you have the Four Stooges (Tosh is Moe). Now we just need to unlock the stage talents of our other crewmembers and we have a retirement plan.

    Thankfully the crew was almost done with the work anyway, and amidst the chaos of the elves trying to restore the library to order and look for that damn dwarf, they manage to complete the job without anymore mishaps.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:11 No.16880554
    Well, since I don't see how to get Ahriman on our side now, I might as well go to bed.
    Night all. Hope we find someone else to ally with soon before Chaos starts to rape our souls.

    >We really need to request a Gellar Field Generator when we get back. Maybe even a scaled down version of the Warp Rammer.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)04:14 No.16880573
    I just realized something. We don't have to STEAL a dwarven ring from Sauron. We can get him to give it to us. Consider this: we currently have a massive amount of firepower trained on an area very near to Rivendell, where Sauron already knows the Ring to be. Furthermore, the firepower we have definitely as the heat required to unmake the Ring. The key is to find someone in our employ who knows jack shit about this 'verse and give them only the relevant information. That way, Sauron doesn't get any kind of advantage out of things when he inevitably scours the contents of the poor sumbitch's mind. To contact him, we only need a Palantir, and we know where we can find TWO of those, by locating a magical signature in the Icebay of Forochel, far to the north.
    Do we have any rookies on the X-COM team?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:14 No.16880574
    Alright, now time for the aurors to whip up some water breathing charms and search a dragon's corpse for treasure.
    ...In fact, fuck it. Can we just beam up the treasure and Smaug's bones besides?
    If we ever are in another high fantasy world, those things could come in useful.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:16 No.16880587
    You want us to give Sauron himself the shakedown?
    ...That actually might not be a bad idea, but lets table that for now.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)04:20 No.16880611
    The Indefatigable's transporter isn't quite up to the task of removing the giant bulk that is a dragon carcass.

    So you're deploying the Aurors to search the lake? Anyone else? Besides the obvious water breathing, what spells will they use, if any?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:21 No.16880623
    Muggle repellant.
    No invisibility.
    Levicorpus or whatever if we want to move the damn thing.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:23 No.16880640
    Not even in separate bite sized pieces, over an extended period of time?
    Do the Aurors have any subspace storage, like those trunks that can hold way more than is physically possible? And a spell to stop them from just getting filled with water?
    Besides that, maybe a spell to improve visibility or whatever.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:24 No.16880645
    Excellent. Translate, archive, and copy it. Hold off on delivering it until we get hold of a ring.


    For information. The elven and human rings are all held by major characters, so we can't touch those. best choice is to grab one of the dwarven rings.

    >At the time of The Lord of the Rings four rings had been consumed by dragon fire and the rest acquired by Sauron.

    We're gonna have to infiltrate Barad-Dur. I love this quest.

    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:26 No.16880661
    Dammit 4chan, quit destroying my posts.

    They should use whatever they need to safely extract the goods. Also, do we have anything else we could use to help out? Maybe we could have the Aurors cut the corpse into chunks and teleport those out instead of having a group of squishy wizards spend time underwater?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:27 No.16880666
    Really? I mean, an old Klingon warbird can beam up whales- although it did have Scotty running things...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:27 No.16880671
    Yeah, sorting through Smaug's remains on our own time is preferable to them just doing it at the bottom of a lake.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:29 No.16880683
    That's because that ship had a bulk teleporter, something we keep forgetting to request.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)04:34 No.16880724
    It also had special tanks to contain THERE BE WHALES ABOARD. Now I want to watch it again.

    You CAN beam aboard chunks...

    ANON: "I suggest having the Auror team identify portions with treasure and having those be beamed aboard, essentially acting as spotters."

    Ahriman has been chatting with the Reasonable Marines for this time, the two having a moderately civil debate on the Imperium.

    "But all that is beside the point. You have agreed to my terms, yes? When, then, can I expect them to be fulfilled?"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:36 No.16880752
    Just a note, Smaug has been dead 77 years by this point in the canon, and likely there isn't much left of him except bones and scales, and of course all those gems scattered in his scales for sleeping on his horde so many years. Most of his horde is spread between dwarves, elves, and men. We won't get that much out of this endeavor.

    Yes, let's just go waltzing into Mordor and steal one of the rings. We'd have about as much luck as catching and offering up a Nazgul.

    This might be a long shot, but, the third elvish ring of power is in Gandalf's possession (See the appendixes in Return of the King). Since he is never noted as using it or it even being mentioned throughout the books, we might stand as much of a chance giving Ahriman that ring.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:36 No.16880756
    Oh right, he wants them fulfilled in a non-indefinite period of time.
    Should we give him the knowledge first, as a show of good faith, and then tell him... like, two days or so?
    Maybe recommend he visit Tom Bombadil in the meantime?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:38 No.16880770
    We saw him wear it at the end. And we're not looking for Smaug's hoard, since a Ring of Power would probably have been noticed, but Smaug's bones, which evidently no one was interested in looting.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:38 No.16880772
    Frankly, the ring will take some time. Perhaps a matter of hours, perhaps weeks. As for Trazyn... well, you can find his collection on the ghost world of Solemnace. Be advised that he may be rather hostile, but perhaps you can persuade him otherwise - you would probably do well to come bearing an initial gift. Oh, and look out for his mindshackle scarabs.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:39 No.16880773
    Give him the Elven Lore immediately, along with the 40k information we've offered, and tell him that we are currently in the process of acquiring a ring.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:40 No.16880784
    We can tell him that we've already gotten the lore he's requested, and can supply that at any time.

    The ring will take more time to acquire as it is currently in possession of one of the most powerful entities in this universe. But we believe we can get it to him within a few days.

    In the meantime, Tom Bombadill is a wonderful person to talk with.

    And messing with him won't disturb canon in any way.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)04:41 No.16880790
    It is possible that the Ring of Fire (which of course burns, burns, burns) gave him some measure of protection against Durin's Bane, though. And it's mentioned as being brought over to Aman when he leaves Middle-Earth.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 11/08/11(Tue)04:44 No.16880825
    Give them info on Trazyn first. Tell him that we're about to get him something. (quick guys, the ring, or that brown wizard?!?)
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)04:46 No.16880840
    >most powerful entities in the universe
    Well, he's probably the most powerful of the Maiar. Ignoring Tom Bombadil (who some readers believe may be an avatar of Eru) and any Ainur who did not leave Eru's presence to go to Ea, he's... probably number 17. Eru is number 1. The 14 Valar and Melkor are numbers 2-16. Sauron's next.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)04:48 No.16880855
    rolled 100 = 100

    You produce a series of data-slates and hand them over to Ahriman. The eye on his helm flares for a moments.

    "Yes... this will do for the time being. I will look this over while I wait for you to fetch my ring. I will wait at the Gateway."
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)04:49 No.16880856
    I say go for the Ring. First try Erebor. Then if that fails, we decide whether we'll shake Sauron down or try and infiltrate the Barad-Dur (I vote for shaking him down, as it's funnier and more likely to work - Sauron's most powerful there.)
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:49 No.16880857
    Well, being number 17 is still impressively powerful.

    And most of the others aren't even active. Being tough means nothing if you just sit on your ass all day.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:51 No.16880873
    I feel as if we should make a stop at Rhosgobel (which is, in the Vales of Anduin, on the western eaves of Mirkwood, near the Gladden Fields.) Regardless of is Radagast is offered as sacrifice or not. I mean we might be able to hire him if we don't want to fork him over to Ahriman.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)04:55 No.16880905
    Why? Chances are we already have someone who can get information out of animals. In fact, I bet both the wizards and the space marines could.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:57 No.16880917
    Assuming negotiations have ended, lets debrief the Knights Inductor and see if they think Ahriman is a man of his word.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)04:59 No.16880933
    Make sure we have someone watching that gateway at all times. We still don't know where it leads or who else might come through.

    My vote is for one of the dwarven rings. Failing that, we try the old switcheroo, nab an inconsequential magic ring from another canon (D&D perhaps) and hope he can't tell the difference.
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)05:01 No.16880939
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    Amidst the many, many, diamonds and hard gems that had embedded themselves into Smaug's hide and which were sunk with him, you also find two items of note. A molten ball of gold that seems to pulse with power... and a large-headed black arrow, forged of some unknown metal.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)05:01 No.16880941

    So we just walk into Mordor, teabag Sauron, and walk out with a ring?

    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)05:05 No.16880968
    Black Arrow? Hory sheet.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)05:05 No.16880970
    ...Alright, let's ask Ahriman if he cares if the ring is no longer... ring-shaped.
    Also while we're here, how guarded is Thorin's tomb?
    Because it might just be the adventurer instincts talking, but I wouldn't mind swiping Orcrist.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)05:05 No.16880975
    The arrow is a novelty, but maybe egon and X-Com can work out a way to build magical weapons from it.

    The orb is likely a melted ring of power, or possibly a palantir covered in gold. Have the aurors check out the magic on both.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)05:10 No.16880999
    Just a warning, we're nearing the auto sage lmimit
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)05:11 No.16881004

    I think it's time I go to bed now, holy shit.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)05:13 No.16881016
    The arrow clearly had some sort of mojo, we should definitely research it, if we don't end up needing it for Ahriman.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)05:15 No.16881023
    Hm. Would an Auror attempting to transfigure the orb (if molten ring it be) back into the shape of a ring, disrupt its magic?
    >> OP 11/08/11(Tue)05:16 No.16881032
    rolled 93 = 93


    Night all, I'll have another thread up later today, probably 7 PM.
    >> Bjorn !!JX2z1qju0Ul 11/08/11(Tue)05:16 No.16881033
    On a completely tangential note to the thrust of this thread, I'd like to retract my statement about Tom being a god. He's more likely (I think) the spirit of the English Countryside (and thus, perhaps, of the Shire).
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)05:19 No.16881047
    As long as you remember that 93!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:50 No.16884429
    Hey guys, just to make sure, we're making this trade with Ahriman under what conditions?
    He leaves and tells us what he knows of the Event?
    He just leaves? (Bad deal)
    He leaves, with the promise not to share this information with anyone else, and gives us info on the Event?
    He leaves, shares information on the Event, and see if we can get him to agree to leave canons alone and perhaps we can make similar trades in the future. Do we have a way to be contacted that we'd trust Ahriman with?

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