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    61 KB Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:34 No.16613114  
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:35 No.16613121
    epic art is epic
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:36 No.16613126
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:37 No.16613131
    >inb4 lawsuit
    >> That Guy !CrwtTbFNxQ 10/13/11(Thu)11:37 No.16613133
    >Playing Lamenters
    >Lose three quarters of the Chapter in first campaign
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:39 No.16613141
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    will post some art now,
    post your ideas on the forum if you want
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:40 No.16613148
    was messing around with the custom naming system and got this gem:
    >Chapter Master Horus of the Alpha Legion Chapter has gifted the Inquisition a patrol skiff and lasrifles recovered from the seige of Terra to atone from past deeds
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:41 No.16613158
    They're not making money off of it, and they're not in Germany where German copyright law says they own part of the IP if they make fan movies/games. So I wouldn't worry.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:41 No.16613159
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    This was a sidebar mockup when it was talked about using pixel art-ish stuff for an interface. I don't know if that's still the way they're going though.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:42 No.16613161

    the rough plan is to build it in vb for the prototype and first few launches, eventually switching over to a proper graphics library to show off more of this sweetness
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:43 No.16613171
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    That's brilliant. I need to play around with custom chapters, I've been sticking to the First chapters until I've really learned the ropes.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:44 No.16613176
    Enjoy being hunted down by a GW hit squad
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:44 No.16613179
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    we're currently thinking about which language to use (its probably going to be c++) and which kind of art-style, after that we're probably going to decide how the gui will be like
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:46 No.16613195
    so let me get this straight in my head. That "make your own story" marine threads have in fact inspired some intrepid anons to build the actual game.

    I will monitor this with interest.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:46 No.16613202

    The best Vindicare assassins they can pay for.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:46 No.16613204
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    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:47 No.16613209

    You seem to forget, /tg/ GETS SHIT DONE.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:48 No.16613219

    have you tried staying pure but breaking the codex astartes? it's hilarious the shenanigans you can pull while the other chapters get beaten the fuck out of - my favourite is building up a hundred+ devastator companies then hunting down speed freak ork clans. the amount of bike kills i've got is ungodly, and almost makes up for the lost rep with any chapters that manage to witness my epic skeet shoots -.-
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:48 No.16613221
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    ooohhhhhh that's pretty.

    Please tell me it's an original bit of work for CM.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:49 No.16613224
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    small test thingie for the combat:
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:50 No.16613229

    The more you deviate from the Codex, the higher chance it is (once per turn) that someone in the chapter will tip you off to the Inquisition, which means they'll start an 'investigation' (Read: Your Chapter has Fallen)
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:50 No.16613237
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    it is,
    there is already lots of art and artmarines willing to help,
    if you want to help take a look at the forum and our chat at http://webchat.freenode.net/ #chaptermaster
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:51 No.16613239
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    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:51 No.16613245

    Is that bit of art yours, and do you mind me having a go at doing it in pixel art?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:53 No.16613251

    there are ways to mitigate it though, such as being massively isolationist (cutting trade, negotiations etc), really high purity or having a massive rep. not even the =][= is immune to peer pressure ^_^
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:54 No.16613252
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    its not made by me, its from magi
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:54 No.16613255

    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:59 No.16613285
    What is considered "adhearing to the codex" exactly?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)11:59 No.16613286
    GW hit squads hunting you down from one side if you finish
    Fa/tg/uys hunting you down on the other side if you fail.

    Are you sure you are aware of what you are letting yourselves in for.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:00 No.16613293
    Chapter organization, mostly. 10 companies of 100 men at most. And some specifics about those.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:04 No.16613313
    Anon_Scribe here. Sorry about not getting more Warp background art to you.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:04 No.16613317

    You think GW gives a fuck? They crush anything.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:08 No.16613338
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    if gw comes we change its name, and /tg/ wont come if i can do anything against it
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:10 No.16613351
    Yeah, you just mod the pictures, put another name on it and tell GW they can kiss your behind.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:12 No.16613361
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    Why has this thread fallen silent?
    Are you heretics /tg/ ?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:14 No.16613377

    Actually it was pointed out that if GW does get wind of it, they'll probably let it go since it's free advertising for their IP, and might even push up sales a little. With that in mind they might send a cursory C&D letter, but then quietly let it slide.

    Or if not, we finish making it anyway, and distribute it P2P.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:15 No.16613382
    Who would they hit with e-mails?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:26 No.16613455

    That was pretty awesome, though far from intuitive. As a UI, it's simple and effective.
    My only thing was, I had no idea what the results for the actions meant.
    Are casualties deaths, injuries, or both?
    Though I admit it was kind of funny getting a scenario where I had the flimsiest fucking Marines around.
    >Use Ganger tunnel
    >Lose 36, enemy loses 4
    >Don't use Ganger tunnel next time it appears
    >Lose 59, enemy loses 0
    -.- . . . .
    >Reroll attributes
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:30 No.16613484
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    there is no difference between injuries and deaths right now
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:34 No.16613518

    That question was just a curiosity, not anything I actually saw wrong with it. I guess my issue is more that playing it seemed like I was using a modded-to-be-40k Texas Instrument, and less combat simulator, in simplified text format.

    But I recognize this is just a start, and I have no inside information on where you guys intend to take it come release, so it's not a serious complaint. Not even really a complaint, just an observation.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:36 No.16613535
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    i will add some kind of armor-roll to prevent marines from instantly dying
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:37 No.16613540
    I am a composition student and would be interested in writing or realising some music for this project if this is required. Who should I email about this?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:40 No.16613554
    You should join the freenode IRC channel.
    And there discuss it. Or post on the forums.
    If you must email someone, I think Jareddm is taking emails. He's on the freenode right now, and at a lot of hours.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:45 No.16613587
    So will the Primarchs be making a cameo?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:46 No.16613592
    The =I= doesn't give half a fuck if you follow the Codex or not.
    That's the Ultramarines' business.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:46 No.16613593
    Primarchs belong in the Horus Heresy. This is Grim Dark Millennium Forty-One.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:48 No.16613605
    How does one guard his weapons and gear from being mysteriously gifted to the Blood Ravens?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)12:49 No.16613623

    >The =I= doesn't give half a fuck if you follow the Codex or not.
    >That's the Ultramarines' business.

    So, nobody is fearing another Horus Heresy, then?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)13:08 No.16613628
    Lots of chapters don't follow the Codex exactly.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)13:57 No.16613637
    will CM use fluff/movie marines or tabletop marines as the base line? or perhaps some kind of middle ground?

    I've always enjoyed the fluff with marines noting their battle brothers missing part of an arm or getting a hole blasted into them and carrying on the fight like the inhuman monsters that they actually are.

    and then are the even crazier marines...
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)14:03 No.16613668
    Not the OP, but why don't you want that?
    I guess I've never thought about it either way. Do they annoy you?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)14:07 No.16613692
    Current plan is pixel-based for the interface, but splash art will be canvas art.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)14:12 No.16613727
    Fuck that, I want a "Insert coin to play" screen
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)14:13 No.16613732
    My understanding is that that screen will only look like that if no save data is detected, otherwise it will have "Load" and "New Game". And if we get other shit that would make sense to put there, then we'll put it there too.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)14:17 No.16613752
    maybe use tabletop marine for the grunts and fluff marines for Hero character.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)14:38 No.16613893
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    >troll thread about a nonexistant game
    >some newfag falls for it
    >explain to him the game doesn't exist
    >pic related
    >at least 10 programmers working on it

    I love you /tg/
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)14:45 No.16613956

    If I can't have my sergeant kill a Nob by spitting acid into his face I don't know what
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)14:45 No.16613960
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    Oh dear god YES!
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)15:27 No.16614381
    >Playing as Ultramarines successor with awesome agri-world and hive-world dual planet system as recruiting planets.
    >Decent game, killing Orks and Chaos throughout surrounding systems.
    >"A shadow in the warp!" 50 turn warning before Hive Fleet Kraken reaches my recruiting worlds.
    >Fuckshitfuck, start fortifying and pulling back from surrounding sectors.
    >Finishing up killing Chaos forces on nearby system when a squad discovers ancient buried ruin. Librarian identifies it as almost functional Blackstone Fortress.
    >Fuckyes, gonna rape those 'nids in space!
    >Start excavating and repairing. Suddenly Mechanicus shows up demanding ownership of fortress.
    >Situation is so dire (and plus, fucking blackstone fortress - who needs those fuckers anyway?) I engage them. Fight them off with moderate casualties.
    >Fortress almost operational. Ulthwe forces arrive and attack. Start losing heavily.
    >"We will stand with you, brothers!" Fuck yes, Blood Raven drop pods everywhere!
    >Wipe out Eldar with space marine bros, manly fistbumps.
    >"By tradition of our chapter, we would exchange gifts with our brothers forged in bonds of blood." Menu pops up giving list of wargear Blood Ravens are offering.
    >Holy shit, are those the Gauntlets of Ultramar? GET!
    >Back to main interface... stare. Watch Blackstone Fortress fly away with Blood Raven battlebarge.
    >"Thank you for this gift, brothers!"
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)15:37 No.16614494
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    Here's some more art from the wiki.
    >> Wikimarine 10/13/11(Thu)15:40 No.16614520
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    This is (hopefully) what this game will look like someday.
    >> Wikimarine 10/13/11(Thu)15:44 No.16614554
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    >> Wikimarine 10/13/11(Thu)15:45 No.16614573
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    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)15:48 No.16614598
    The Inquisition doesn't care about you not following the codex if:
    - You're one of the nine first founding chapters.
    - You're a personal experiment of theirs.
    - You're particularly loyal to them.
    - You lack an iota of power and clout outside of your chapter.
    - You show no sign of mutation.

    Some Inquisitors might even encourage the... unorthodox expansion of particular over-zealous, truly loyal chapters that they are certain can be trusted, such as the Black Templars.

    If you're an upstart new chapter with no connections to the first founding, with no respect for the Inquisition, with strange mutations and a tight grip on its home sector's politcs, the Inquisition WILL care if you start to not follow the limitations of the codex and their wrath WILL come down on you like the fist of an angry god.
    >> Wikimarine 10/13/11(Thu)15:49 No.16614603
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    >Everyone's face when this is becoming a reality.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)15:52 No.16614624
    >see title screen
    >the aquila is drawn wrong
    seriously, why?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)15:52 No.16614626
    Its just an additional annoyance to deal with in games. The only games that do it or have ever done it are console games (for whatever reason they do it). There is absolutely no reason to have it and it just wastes people's time.

    Yes, 2 seconds is time. You might sound like its nitpicking but it can be annoying when you just want to play the damn game but have to press buttons to pass some stupid arbitrary screen that serves no purpose.

    That's not to say I don't like the Aquila and stuff, I do like it and think it should be in the game. But if you put the menu seen in >>16613141 to the side of the game screen then you can easily have that next to the full menu. There's absolutely no need for a "press start on your controller to play" screen.

    Again I reiterate, it wastes time and serves no purpose. Yes, 2 seconds (or whatever) is time.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)15:53 No.16614638
    >Inquisitor swings by
    >Apparently one of my veterans had a symbol of Chaos Undivided tattooed on his ass
    >The Inquisitor discovered this while using the natural hotsprings which are a random feature on my main world
    >It eventually comes out that one of his buddies gave him the tattoo to fuck with him when they were both drunk
    >Options provided: Discipline the tattooer, ban alcohol for Space Marines, restrict tattoo guns, all pretty reasonable choices
    >Option I pick: Throw a feast to laugh about prank
    >Inquisitor passes out drunk and gets all sorts of heretical symbols tattooed on him

    This is the best random event ever.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)15:59 No.16614679
    Not a programmer, not a writer or a very accomplished artist, but damn it I wish I would help.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:02 No.16614704
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    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:05 No.16614733

    Sounds like a variation of the Soul Drinkers. Go renegade, man. Hightail it out of there.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:08 No.16614766
    This shit needs to be expanded upon. If you help or get help from other chapters there will the option of exchanging gifts. It is not optional with BRs and no, you do not get to choose when gifting with BRs.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:08 No.16614768
    How's your reputation with the different Ordos? Unless it's bad a geneseed mutation shouldn't cause too much trouble.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:10 No.16614783

    Think so? What's the number crunch on going renegade? Am I gonna have to fight my loyalist brothers inside the chapter or will they just do what I say?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:11 No.16614787
    This, other chapters get away with fangs, rage mutations, obisidan skin and bone scythes from their elbows.

    Even IG fields mutants. It's all cool as long as you call it "abhumans".
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:13 No.16614795
    Hmmm. Yeah, maybe you should see what the Inquisition thinks. Like the others said, how's your rep with the Ordos?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:14 No.16614808
    It depends on their loyalty to you and their piety, but you should have few dissenters. You'll lose reputation with all loyalists, but if you're good friends with someone now, they'll probably be neutral at worst. I don't recommend it in this situation, though. Geneseed mutation really isn't that big a deal. It's not like chaos mutations.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:15 No.16614819
    some AA would be nice for those jagged edges, imo.
    >> Inquisitorial 10/13/11(Thu)16:18 No.16614851
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    This thread. All of it. But especially the people who are working on this game.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)16:19 No.16614862
    There should be a seriousness stat (maybe "Discipline"?) so at one end you can go full Ultramarine and at the other you can be more like Space Wolves and get events like >>16614638
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)17:28 No.16615430
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    Just went on the forums.


    This is /tg/ at its most ridiculously awesome.
    >> New Canadian Empire 10/13/11(Thu)20:31 No.16616723
    Yo /tg/. I found this in /rs/:
    Its basic marine patterns from the 4th ed. Could someone get this to the developers?
    I dont have tme to do this, but if this is sent to them im sure it could be used to get us 1.0 faster.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)20:35 No.16616769

    You don't have time to post this on the forum.... and yet do have time to make a post on 4chan about not having time to post it on the forum?

    Nevertheless, thanks, i suppose.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)20:50 No.16616877

    I assume he doesn't have time to set up an account for the forums, but he's already signed in to his 4chan account.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)21:55 No.16617361

    The Inquisition's job is not to play police for Rowboat's little project. They have literally a million and one more important things to worry about, things that actually matter in the grand scheme of things, then if some chapter decides it wants to convert a tactical company to a second devastator company, or it wants to have its marines start off as assault marines.

    Sure, theres always that one wackjob that thinks that enforcing the codex is their job, but those problems tend to solve themselves, either at the hand of a slighted chapter, or by his own colleagues to prevent a potentially imperium wide shitstorm.

    If enforcing the Codex was their job, frankly, they goddamn suck at it, since they've completely flopped on the Space Wolves, Black Templar, Salamanders, Iron Hands, and probably one or more other chapters I'm forgetting. And all those chapters successor chapters.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)22:30 No.16617631
    >not to play police for Rowboat's little project
    >Not keep watch on the self-contained orders of transhuman killing machines which have been shown repeatedly to have the capacity to rebel


    Codex alignment is a basis the Inquisition has to ensure that individual Chapters aren't accruing too much power. Will they let deviancy slide if it's provable that the circumstances require it? Yes.

    But if they don't watch that shit constantly you get shit like Lufgt Huron and the Astral Claws. And no one in the Inquisition wants another Badab War.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)22:39 No.16617697
    I would like to see literally OOOOOOOOONNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE instance of the Inquisition even giving a single shit about Codex deviation in fluff.

    The Inquisition gives a shit about:
    - Astartes talking shit to the Inquisition (Celestial Lions)
    - Astartes taking post-battle breaks to start eating mass quantities of Imperial citizens (Knights of Blood)
    - Hoarding imperial tithes for yourself (Badab bullshit) and I'm not sure that was handled by the Inquisition

    Not a single scrap of fluff has ever implied the Inquisition cares about the codex astartes. I'm not even sure any Inquisitors or acolytes have even commented on the Codex Astartes.

    Not to mention the Inquisition has two astartes chamber militants, neither are CA-approved.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)22:42 No.16617716
    I mentioned one. You know, the Astral Claws. Guys who completely ignored the Codex and tried to form their own Legion? Yeah, there you go.

    The Badab conflict started over tithes. It escalated because the Astral Claws were flagrantly violating the letter and the SPIRIT of the Codex.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)22:49 No.16617776

    No, I'm pretty sure its the way Huron first denied imperial tithes, then blew up a fleet sent to investigate.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)22:52 No.16617808
    if this ever becomes a real viable thing.... I will just.... I don't even know but I will love /tg/ more than I love almost anything in the world. Godspeed gentlemen.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)22:54 No.16617819
    You do not seem to understand what the words "started" and "escalated" mean, good sir. Huron had what, four Chapters worth of Marines with plans to make more? Huron ignored the dictates of the Codex Astartes which said "Astartes do their own thing, THEY DON'T RUN SHIT IN THE IMPERIUM."

    The entire conflict stemmed from that decision. The organizational heresies were just extra. The Codex is an organizational tool and source of strategic insight, but it is also a power-limiting tool, to ensure that the Astartes as a whole are not seen as a threat by the Imperium and thereby maintaining Space Marine sovereignty.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)22:57 No.16617844
    Wow, this is actually happening.
    I love you, /tg/. You are gentlemen and scholars all, and you get shit done.
    >> Doctor Feelgood !T0/Mp/AdU6 10/13/11(Thu)23:03 No.16617891
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    rolled 23589 = 23589


    >Holy shit, are those the Gauntlets of Ultramar? GET!
    >Back to main interface... stare. Watch Blackstone Fortress fly away with Blood Raven battlebarge.
    >"Thank you for this gift, brothers!"

    So. Many. Tears.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)23:07 No.16617927
    Not any of the other posters, but the inquisition showed no concern or interest in the Astral Claws. It was the traders tasked with bringing tithes to the High Lord of Terra that first started worrying.

    And even then, the high lords of terra were angry at the traders, not the Astral Claws.

    The problem arose when space marines were openly engaging in civil conflict. Thats the kind of thing that starts civil wars. The High Lords of Terra mobilised forces to stop the civil war, not Huron.

    And it was the lords of terra that mobilised quote 'an envoy' from the inquisition. Implying now, under request of High Lords of Terra, the inquisition was investigating them. And basically, it was going to be for one of three things. Witches, Xenos or Demons. Because that's what the inquisition deals with. Not space marine civil wars.

    Lets abstract it slightly. This is a feudal system. The High Lords of Terra are the kings. Imagine yourself in the 'king's' position. The Space Marines are the lords and their forces. Do you care that one of your lords has a bigger plot of land than anyone else? Do you care that he has more soldiers? No! It's not even that much of a problem immediately when he runs behind on his tithe, you can send another lord and his forces to attack them then. But you don't want to do that immediately, because open war between your lords is the worst thing that can happen, because it creates turmoil, and breaks the system.

    Inquisition wouldn't care. They're Inquisitors. They Enquire. They Investigate. They keep records and search for heresy. Tithe lagging and empire building aren't their field.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)23:32 No.16618122
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    >Two battle companies
    >Eight Devastator reserves
    >Two Scout Companies

    Check it out. Because I have two battle companies, I get to have two battleforces. Each battleforce is made up of six tac, two assault, and FORTY-TWO devastator squads, plus some scouts. Yeah, force balance is fucked, that's why the two scout companies, the assault squads die every time. But hot damn does my chapter DESTROY two targets per turn.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/11(Thu)23:50 No.16618281
    So far, we still have nothing to suggest the Inquisition's job includes enforcing the Codex Astartes, because the Inquisition has never, ever investigated anyone just for that, nor punished anyone for that, nor has an Inquisitor or Acolyte ever remarked that they care.

    Its not even a foregone conclusion that the Inquisition would be sympathetic to the CA, because neither astartes-based chamber militant abides by the CA, and not even the Ultramarines abide by the CA.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)00:19 No.16618574
    Playing as the Lamenters should come with a gigantic disclaimer that guarantees you WILL have bad things happen to you and to just roll with it.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)00:35 No.16618729
    >Playing a 40k game should come with a gigantic disclaimer that guarantees you WILL have bad things happen to you and to just roll with it.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)00:36 No.16618734
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    Someone make sure to archive the thread this time. We lost the last one.

    What sort of standing losses would your chapter take if they adopted the Imperial Cult?
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)00:48 No.16618814
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    >Someone make sure to spend two minutes so I don't have to.

    That said, if you're Imperial Cult, the Ecclesiarchy should come to you with missions of dubious morality that are likely to piss off the other Imperial authorities, or just waste your men.
    >Assassinate this cardinal, he's stirring up radicalism.
    >Send us twenty men, from one of your reserve companies will be fine, to guard this shrine for the next two hundred years.
    >The bicentennial unveiling of the Shroud of Rubinek is going to happen in three weeks. The pilgrims always get unruly, and the Arbites always open fire on them. But maybe if Space Marines were presiding, loss of life could be prevented...
    >The War of Faith on Accad VI has gone on too long. End it. Kill all involved. The God-Emperor will know his own.
    And refusing these missions is a massive rep penalty. Fail them too many times, hit rep 0, and you get excommunicated.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)00:49 No.16618823
    ...and there is no going back, too. They won't let you go.
    It IS a cult, after all.
    Try to leave, and your homeworld will find itself up to its ears in Frateris Militia.
    >> Starshadow 10/14/11(Fri)00:50 No.16618830
    Yeah we let the other one 404, not enough official bumps I guess.

    Here it is btw: >http://archive.easymodo.net/tg/thread/16602630
    >> ARBITES BUMP SQUAD Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)00:56 No.16618880
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    Yeah, that was my bad.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)01:00 No.16618912
    Okay. "Bad" was putting it lightly.

    Badder. Badder things will happen to you. -Baddest- things.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)01:19 No.16619085
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    In the case of the Lamenters, though, you might be putting it...
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)01:25 No.16619145
    Shit, that was awful. Thought you said putting it badly, not lightly.
    Terribly sorry.
    In any event...
    >In the case of Lamenters, though, Badab things happen to you.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)01:26 No.16619157

    >100 marines lost to one man

    Who is this guy supposed to be? Fucking Khorne himself?
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)01:33 No.16619229
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    >Only one world in the entire subsector
    >One guy
    >Standing in front of a chapel
    >One world
    >Entire subsector
    >One guy
    It all makes
    >One world
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)01:42 No.16619318
    Anyone else unable to connect to the Freenode?
    >> Pauldron Guy 10/14/11(Fri)01:47 No.16619371
    I'm too lazy to put skulls in the reliquary at the moment, /tg/, help me come up with more button designs.
    >> Pauldron Guy 10/14/11(Fri)01:47 No.16619377
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    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)01:50 No.16619401
    >Huron ignored the dictates of the Codex Astartes which said "Astartes do their own thing, THEY DON'T RUN SHIT IN THE IMPERIUM."
    Also ignoring that: The goddamn Ultramarines.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)01:58 No.16619465
    Oh u noticed
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)02:01 No.16619488
    Yeah, I know. The Ultramarines don't follow that for several reasons. Ultramar was around before it was integrated into the Imperium after all. The other First Founding Chapters generally accepted the Codex simply because they'd taken the majority of casualties in the Heresy and the ones tat didn't no one wanted to fuck with.

    The Codex was essentially Guilleman's way of consolidating all Astartes power under one overarching system, which both made his Legion premier (which he wanted), kept the regular humans of the Imperium from virus-bombing them all (which he also wanted) and it streamlined the overall organization of the Adeptus Astartes, from Foundings to rebuilding Chapters.

    Essentially, Guilleman sided with the High Lords during the aftermath of the Heresy, got some perks for his Chapter, and laid down several strictures which are NOT supposed to be broken. And shit, even Ultramar pays their tithes.
    >> ARBITES BUMP SQUAD 10/14/11(Fri)02:22 No.16619651
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    Citizens who fail to meet their quotas will meet Him-on-Terra instead.
    It is YOUR responsibility to ensure that your community is meeting the standards of production.
    Remember: low-output hab blocks are the highest priority during population control purges.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)02:27 No.16619693
    >Ultramar pays their tithes.

    Space Marine worlds are Adeptus Non tithe grade. They pay only with their service.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)02:36 No.16619765
    Last I checked, only Macragge was Adeptus Non. The rest of Ultramar pays tithes, or so I thought.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)02:56 No.16619918
    And either way they do have to pay a tithe in gene-seed.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)02:59 No.16619939
    I was under the impression that Ultramar's tithe is collected centrally and "redistributed" via Macragge (which is itself Adeptus Non).
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:02 No.16619959
    >Random chapter
    >Minor deviations from the codex. Strong devestator presence, expert siege defenders.
    >Every battle land on planet, build fortifications, defend until enemies have broken upon my walls.
    >Send out three companies for massive attack on heretic traitor world, consisting of 11 total SM companies from different chapters, and 16 IG regiments.
    >Spend 150 turns rebuilding losses and recovering.
    >Forces remaining:
    >4 SM companies.
    >2 of them are mine.
    >Remaining marines are elite of the elite unkillable in siege.
    Next update needs to give us the option to set company mottos.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:07 No.16619997
    >Every battle land on planet, build fortifications, defend until enemies have broken upon my walls.
    Heads up, Eldar will ignore your fortifications and just do whatever they set out to do. Others might to if they have an objective that your fort doesn't disrupt, for all I know, but in my experience every type of Eldar will do it every time.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:13 No.16620056
    Where can I download this?
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:23 No.16620133
    turtling is not the best thing bro. Sometimes there are assets on a planet that go to waste because you wait near your dropship while the enemy has a free reign of the place.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:39 No.16620262
    It is my sincerest hope we have a working, fun game before the Cease and Desist comes down from Games Workshop.

    Because you know it will...
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:41 No.16620278
    Then they can call it the Order Master and it will be about Orders of the Space Knights.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:56 No.16620381
    Or they could just keep being anonymous.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:58 No.16620392
    /tg/: Gets Shit Done.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:59 No.16620395

    You could ignore it, finish the game, and release it anyway.

    Once it's on the Internet, GW can't stop it.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)03:59 No.16620396
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    How long do you give it until everyone loses interest?
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)04:21 No.16620490
    oh i'd say after the second release

    stop being such a nay-sayer
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)04:26 No.16620502
    It shouldnt be more than about a month now before we start seeing a healthy decline in threads

    thank fuck for that
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)04:45 No.16620583
    >Play Blood Angels successor
    >First Company Captain Expedius has succumbed to the Black Rage
    >Well fuck me, attach him to Death Company and send them off to fight Ork Waaaagh in neighboring system
    >90% of your Death Company has fallen
    >No shit game I knew tha...
    >Captain Expedius has transcended the Black Rage and has become Velox the Swift
    >Warboss Meksmasha has been slain by Velox the Swift
    >I send reinforcements, Waagh ended, planet saved, good relation with system

    Holy dick balls that was lucky, didn't even know that had a chance of happening

    Speaking of Blood Angels wouldn't it be possible to field 36 Dreads with Astaroth as an HQ choice?
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)04:45 No.16620586

    Long after you stop being a faggot. Oh wait.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)04:47 No.16620593
    >29 threads in crunch section of forum
    >20 in fluff sections total

    More dedication to the main things that matter than most projects at least.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)04:53 No.16620630
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    >> Starshadow 10/14/11(Fri)06:28 No.16621019
    > Playing Ultramarines Successor
    > Enemy Jump Infantry are attacking your devastators!
    > Heavy losses.
    > Just another day.

    > Playing Raven Guard Successor
    > Chapter Restriction: No Devastators
    > Codex Divergence: Dreadnoughts form Devastator Squads instead of marines.
    > 4th Company sent to join crusade
    > Besieging aquatic hive world
    > Arm Dreadnoughts with dual autocannons.
    > Devastators deployed as air defense.
    > Your devastators have shot down an enemy dropship!
    > Dropship crash lands on nearby bridge, crew dismounts.
    > Enemy jump infantry are attacking your devastators!
    > Devastators shoot them all out of the sky.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)07:08 No.16621279
    >Inquisitorial investigation into geneseed purity announced
    >We have fucking BLADES growing from our FACES
    >Delegation arrive
    >An Ork Waaaagh is approaching!
    >Reckon the Waagh will cut down on travel somewhat. Kill delegation so that they can't communicate via astropath. Reckon i'll get away with it.
    >Small group of =][= turns up on our FUCKING MAIN RECRUITING WORLD, backed by Eldar of all things
    >Webway gates, webway gates everywhere
    >The rape is horrific
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)07:16 No.16621332
    >start on deathworld
    >tempted to quit but shrug it off since there's some pretty decent materials readily available for me if i can just get past the spore-exploding plantlife
    >timeskip a bit forward , really not a lot happens, rogue trader ship passes by but ultimately pussies out landing on my dodgy as fuck spaceport.
    >You have discovered a set of natural caverns beneath the earth!
    >"oh jesus fucking christ, if i've started on a Necron Tomb Deathworld..."
    >send in the scout marines
    >you have discovered some pre-heresy Astartes relics!
    >Oh my~
    >start teching up like boss, sorting out some very awesome sonar scanning hardware so I can scan nearby planets
    >wait, what?
    >three inquisitorial warships show up along with a black ship and a space marine battlebarge.
    >um, sup guys?
    >they demand all of my tech, fml
    >hand it over, keeping the current scanning systems in place as they don't seem to care about the scanning systems any more

    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)07:16 No.16621336
    >have monetary stripped of everything useful and multiple tech marines executed for heresy. monestary continues now at a snails pace, i power up the scanning gear and start lurking again, now more confined to my fortress than before.
    >You have discovered a webway gate!
    >for FUCKS sake.
    >two inquisitorial ships show up, this time without the battlebarge
    >they're demanding my scanning equipment
    >fuck this. decline them.
    >they open fire from orbit taking out a good portion of my monestary
    >move scanning equipment into the necropolis below
    >inquisitorial ships move to land
    >one of the ships is absolutely covered in the thick stuff and crashes into the ground, being swarmed over by six legged insect mutants. the second ship attempts to flee but breaks up in exit, exploding and scattering salvage for miles around the large continent i was based on
    >everything went better than expected
    >set up scanning equipment again
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)08:48 No.16621778
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    >Jones is acting strangely in one of your thunderhawks!
    >A thunderhawk has been lost.
    >A tactical squad has been lost.
    >A tactical squad has been lost.
    >An assault squad has been lost.

    >> ­­Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)09:09 No.16621870
    I came!
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)09:32 No.16621960
    Didn't we all?
    >> ARBITES BUMP SQUAD Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)10:26 No.16622178
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    Citizens who fail to meet their quotas will meet Him-on-Terra instead.
    It is YOUR responsibility to ensure that your community is meeting the standards of production.
    Remember: low-output hab blocks are the highest priority during population control purges.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)11:20 No.16622486
    wake up /tg/, it's shit done getting time.
    >> Star Trump Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)14:25 No.16623715
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    "…now the Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica shall come forward, and consult the Emperor's Tarot to establish the agenda."
    "Let it be done," the chant rang out.
    The ancient psyker, hunched under the weight of his arcane technology, stalked forth onto the floor. Circled by the spiteful eyes of the other eleven High Lords, and that grim statue of the Emperor's effigy, he drew in his breath. At his waist, he unclasped a small box. He could have commanded it to automatically shuffle, for each psychically-attuned card could play the role of any other, but the demands of tradition bid him take the slow path.
    Drawing out the packet of liquid crystal wafers, he set them out on the small, flat-topped podium. He split them into stacks, cut them twelve times each for the High Lords and once for the Emperor of Mankind, and gathered them back together.
    Then, with another intake of breath, he drew the first card, placing it delicately on the ancient tabletop.
    "The Emperor of Mandatio!" cried the sycophant, and the cheer went up. In the Council of High Lords, the Emperor was always the first card to reveal itself. On that card, a wizened figure locked in a prison of gold, the Overlord of the Imperium, the Master of Mankind. Whose divine overwatch surveyed and foresaw…
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)14:26 No.16623722
    "Absolute control, the authority to rule over men! Blessed His name, and His Will be done!"
    Four to go. Another rasping breath. The tubes in his nose were chafing. He laid the next card in place.
    "The Star trump!" cried the sycophant, and the lords looked up from their displays and documents. The Star was new beginnings. Second in the order, it could only mean that the Emperor willed a new endeavor to begin. On the card, a burning protoplanetary disc, a vortex of violence and potential.
    "Creation, undertaking, new beginnings!"
    Three to go. Another rasping breath. His nose hurt. He drew the next…
    "The Savage of Excuteria!" cried the sycophant, and the lords were truly interested now. There were mutters of 'Crusade?' and 'Invasion?'. Litanies against the alien, the mutant, the traitor fluttered through the chamber like parchments cast out of a high window. Across the card the greenskinned Ork prowled forwards, and off the edge- and another alien entered the plate, less familiar by far. Another still. An unending procession of the Emperor's foes paraded beneath the psychoplastic surface.
    "Conflict! Problems!"
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)14:26 No.16623726
    Two to go. Another rasping breath. The Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica was bleeding now. It trickled down his nasal tube and away, under his high collar. Drops of blood rolled across his tattoo-drowned chest. He turned the next card.
    "The Destroyer of Adeptio!" cried the sycophant, and the eleven lords were craning their necks. The Lord Commander summoned messengers to prepare for the impending crusade. The Fabricator General clicked in the tongue of servo-skulls, and his personal flock departed to ready the forges. Nobody saw what the Inquisitorial Representative did, but they were sure he that he had done something. A warship in decked in gleaming heraldry, roaring through space…
    One to go. Another rasping breath. Finish the circle. Read the spread. He reached out…
    "The Space Marine of Adeptio!" cried the sycophant, and the gasps went round. Orders were cancelled. Some Lords rose to their feet, others sank into their chairs in silent prayer. A Chapter Master in his offices, tending to the affairs of his army...Not in living memory had…
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    "The triumph of mind over matter, of willpower over the threat!"
    "…The Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica interprets," he said.
    He gazed down at the ring of cards. The Emperor gazed up at him. Not in living memory…
    "The time of a new Founding has come! His Will be done in the mortal realm as in the Immaterium!"
    And now at last he could retire to his chair, and his attendants could wipe the blood away. He turned, unconcerned with the jubilation and determination that had overcome the chamber. His task was done.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)14:41 No.16623809
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    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)14:45 No.16623842
    Is any of this available for testing yet? I assume people have some sort of alpha version from somewhere considering they amount of feedback.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)14:50 No.16623886
    where can I pick up the latest prototypes of combat and stuff?
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)16:00 No.16624530
    Oh right. Probably should post some links about here.
    Where you can find most of the testy bits

    Where you can find ways to help

    Where you can stroll through memory lane in the thread index
    >> Chapter Master dev coordinator !!WT5kWiwTesn 10/14/11(Fri)19:01 No.16626055
    Stick around and one will be posted, fella. Probably going to be a thread goin' up soon enough.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)21:23 No.16627329
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    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)21:35 No.16627450
    >Have it start a random Index Astartes chapter
    >Deathwatch Watch Fortress
    So here's how that turns out to work:
    >Recruiting done by diplomacy and random event only
    >Battles are event chains only, without combat rounds. There's not many of these, as they're all Deathwatch-specific they start to repeat pretty soon with only name swaps. If the content weren't so limited, Deathwatch would be a neat adventure mode sort of thing.
    >Mechanically speaking, my chapter's force organization is four battle companies... each composed of only one combat squad of veterans.
    >Headquarters nearly as large as all combat personnel, with Keepers and Commander, but cannot deploy them ever.
    >3 Librarians, 3 Apothecaries, 2 Chaplains, 1 Dread, 4 Techmarines, 2 Kill-Marines, tons of vehicle and weapon packs, stupid fleet for so few marines.
    >Untouchable rep with the Inquisition.

    It's an interesting variant, to say the least.
    >> Anonymous 10/14/11(Fri)22:18 No.16627805
    >Working on my 'Alpha Legion' Chapter
    >A lot of my Captains have gone on various crusades with their own fleets
    >'Warning! The Codex does not support this action!"
    >Shoo, Rowboat. I am serving the Emperor-
    >Captain Andromedas is acting strangely!
    >Captain Predicus is acting strangely!
    >Captain Alpharius is acting strangely!- Wait what.
    >Flooded with event reports and battle logs about traitors.
    >Fully half of my Chapter has turned on their brothers.

    Had that happened to someone else, I would have simply chuckled. Instead, it happened to me. I shed a few tears for my loyalist brothers.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)00:28 No.16629081
    I realize that the whole "Codex does not support this" came about from some retarded retcons and that Space Marine game, but it does bring up a very important question.

    What, exactly, does the Codex approve of? What are sanctioned strategies, organizational tools, litanies, etc. We need to define what the Codex approves of if we want to talk about how "The Codex Astartes does not support this action."
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)00:31 No.16629102
    Not to sound like a lazy bastard, but that is a huge undertaking. I'm not quite sure if there is one major volume attributed to the Codex Astartes; there may just be snippets of do's and do not's in various rulebooks and novels.

    Then again, I could be talking out of my ass. You decide!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)00:32 No.16629111
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    >Playing berserkers from 21st founding
    >The High Lords request an audit from your chapter
    >Fuck, we're dead
    >Can't do anything for like 700 turns
    >Come back
    >Chapter Master has Custodes spear
    >Full Terminator and MK8 stocks
    Oh yeah.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)00:32 No.16629112
    We only need to apply what we *know* the codex forbids.
    Remember that the Codex isn't as much a rulebook as a grim dark Art of War. It's open to interpretation in many places, but it recommends a ratio of one chariot for every hundred spearmen. To the ultramarines, that's more than a recommendation. To others, it's just a suggestion.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)00:37 No.16629154
    i dont believe we have ever seen anything larger than a passage or two from the Codex Astartes. One of the Ultramarines novels (the fifth one i believe) shows the original copy...or original copies, i shoud say. there were multiple volumes, all chained to a table in the Librarium center, and may or may not have had stasis feilds
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)00:52 No.16629247
    FUCKING MINOTAUR! I Swear I will kill you all one day!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)00:54 No.16629259
    U mad, Inceptors?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)00:55 No.16629266
    you mad bro?
    >Minotaurs 4 life!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)01:00 No.16629306
    Hey, please DON'T make it overly Gothic when you're doing your aesthetic.

    Think early third edition art style. That would be ideal.


    Just look at early third edition stuff. You'll get the idea.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)01:54 No.16629710
    Bump for the bump throne.
    >> Pauldron 10/15/11(Sat)01:55 No.16629719
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    Project artmarine here.
    >early third edition
    Often extremely lolgothic. Pic related among many others.
    But yeah. I know what you mean. There was often that heavy, bleak, monolithic concrete thing going on. The 3rd edition rulebook is some of my favorite 40k art. A huge variety of style and subject, but a really consistent tone. They put a lot of work and coordination into that one and it shows.

    A composer has volunteered, based on this comment of his:
    >'d love to do some lush and dramatic Romantic orchestral and choral stuff, think Brahms requiem or one of the Bruckner masses, but grimdarkier, obviously. I'd also like to employ more avant garde or electronic styles. My goal would simply to create something aesthetically appropriate and consistent, without it overpowering any other element.

    >I am familiar with the setting, and prepared to do my own research where necessary.

    I'm thinking it won't be bland, movie-trailer sounding "epic choir" stuff.
    >> Pauldron 10/15/11(Sat)01:56 No.16629725
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    >> New Canadian Empire 10/15/11(Sat)02:18 No.16629872
    >start of as random space based chapter
    K, nerver done this before.
    >Go to Prospero, former Thousand sons homeworld.
    >Send out ALL the scouts.
    >You have found ancient Astarties Relics!
    >You have found a working STC!
    >Thousands sons where hoarding STC tech.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)02:22 No.16629887
    WTF Is that thing up top?

    >Hawksbill. twelre
    That sounds as likely as anything captcha
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)02:28 No.16629922
    Speaking of Spritebased warham40k games.

    Does anyone know where to get Final Liberation and Chaos Gate?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)02:32 No.16629943

    You guys really playing or making up shit?

    because if you are playing, damn dev team that was fast as fuck

    if you are just joking around making up stories
    >its making me want to play a game thats not ready

    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)02:34 No.16629956
    >go to download
    >not mediafire
    >some bullshit site that wants to install an installer to download the combat test

    Haha, nope.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)02:34 No.16629957
    People were making up stories before the game was even planned.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)02:36 No.16629968
    I did it just fine without needing to download any installer or anything.

    You're not missing much though.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)02:40 No.16629989
    You guys should look at "Conflict: Middle East Political Simulator" for some reference material.

    Its basically what /tg/ is going to make abet 100 times better and more epic.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)02:54 No.16630086

    Yeah, it's nothing more than a test to see our responses to it. Don't take it as indicative of the end-product.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)03:05 No.16630165
    Pretty obviously a surgically altered human being.
    >Oh Imperium, you so silly
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)06:51 No.16631180
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    Started charting the UI, so we can get some shit done without wasting time on useless art assets.

    What else should there be here?

    I'm thinking of putting the Apothecarium next.
    >view gene-seed state (mutation rate displayed as a bar, view mutated traits if any)
    >>Purge mutated gene-seed (lose stock, lower mutation)
    >view stock of gene-seed in the bank
    >view chapter's numbers of active Battle Brothers, Neophytes, Recruits, basically populace
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)12:06 No.16632462
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    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:03 No.16632851
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    Give me your input /tg/.

    Is this one done or do you think I should add something to it?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:05 No.16632869
    If the focus is on the dred, it needs more STUFF. Right now it's a big empty area with a dred on the side.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:07 No.16632886
    What kind of STUFF?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:11 No.16632919
    I like it. Would clicking on the book bring up more info?


    >Spawn near rim of Astromonicons range
    >Lot of wierd shit out here
    >Least Chaos cults are few and far between
    >Worrying number of xeno cults however, and those fucking rogue traders...
    >Spend most of my time taking out pirate xenos
    >"Xenofur Killumbus, famed Rouge Trader explorer, has requested permission to dock on your Capital, Cast Steel"
    >Oh well, lets find out what the fucker wants
    >"As you may know, I hail from the world of Jin-Oh-Ah. We have a proud sailing tradition, and I seek to bring glory to my world and the Emperor by charting the territories out in the Void. I humbly request a chapter of Astartes for protection against any threats we may meet"
    >Well, may as well... you never know...
    >Five years later
    >Still not heard from him

    So did this guy just steal a whole chapter and lied his ass off, or do you reckon there's something out there that could take them all on? He had like three ships under his command, so it must have been something nasty..
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:12 No.16632924
    Iunno, something that tells you what's going on in the pic.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:20 No.16632987
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    Is this enough STUFF?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:22 No.16633018
    It's not bad, but it's weird that the focus is on the dred while you have a shiny bright glass window right in the center of the picture. My eyes go there first.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:23 No.16633023
    It's better. I don't know if there's quite enough bling on everything, but it gives enough movement and life to make it seem like a room that sees constant presence and use without making it cluttered.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:24 No.16633039
    Also, it hurts that the dreadnought is completely gray. I suppose that's because the Vanilla Marines do not have an established color, and ideally the dred would be colored in whatever colors you choose for the Chapter.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:28 No.16633074
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    What is this...I'm dreadfully confused.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:30 No.16633087

    This picture reminds me of LOOM.

    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:32 No.16633103

    Stuff that obscures the stained-glass window in the center and leads our eyes to the dreadnaught

    Though honestly I'd say move the dread to the center so we can look at it from the front, and have technmarines and shit working on it there. Then eyes go
    >Stained Glass Window
    >everything else

    Which would work good too
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:37 No.16633136
    What if you moved the glass window (and its lighting effects) half-the-canvass towards the dreadnought, and in the center of the picture, added more servitors and cogitators and servo skulls and whatnot?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:45 No.16633198
    >Start new chapter of UM succession
    >Fuck that gay noise
    >1 company of veterans, 1 company of n00bs in power armour, 8 companies of scouts with camo-cloaks and sniper rifles.
    >Chaplains are now Scout Battle Preachers
    >No Librarians (last chapter had all the Librarians get their brains Enslavered)
    >Recruit Techpriests straight from the mechanicus for 1 scout company with them at all times.
    >Chapter Name: Knights in Tarnished Armour
    >Snipering Warbosses, chaos lords, gene-stealer patriarchs, Fallen Generals, Deamon Princes
    >Paint Barge black with white spots on it and install all the stealth devices and techniques i can buy.
    >Inquisition try ti run an inspection. Can't fucking find me.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:52 No.16633248
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    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:56 No.16633284

    Top one is muuuuuuuch better

    Bottom one I was thinking the dread would be a little bit smaller. Treat the stained-glass as a metaphor for haloes, and I mean the gold rings of light around peoples' heads, not the vidya.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)13:59 No.16633319
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    Also the dread in the bottom picture looks like it's laying down rather than standing up.

    You could do something like this.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)14:03 No.16633353

    The bottom one is onto something, but the dreadnought's position makes it look like the lighting effect coming out of the stained glass window.

    Instead maybe position it facing the viewer directly in front of the window so that its shadow stretches to the bottom, surrounded on either side by the slivers of light getting through?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)14:04 No.16633371
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    >last chapter had all the Librarians get their brains Enslavered

    You were one lucky sonovabitch they didn't get a chance to start breeding. I just had my Librarians locked up while I had them studied. I wanted to see if there was a way to sick the Enslavers on Daemons or any of my many, many (manymanymany) foes.

    Turns out no, but they DO lay millions of eggs, and they don't take as long you'd hope to hatch...

    Yeah, lets just say that galaxy is about to take a preetttyyyy big hit. I'm already Enlsaved so eh, how bad
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)14:05 No.16633378
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    That's because it is.

    If it were standing tall it'd block the entire window.
    I'm trying to do things somewhat to scale.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)14:11 No.16633429

    Well, why not scale the room (and window) to be a bit bigger than it is currently?

    40K loves its shit huge, so it wouldn't be that far off.
    >> ­­Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)14:17 No.16633476
    Everyone who works on this, regardless if you finish it or not. You are great persons and I do love you wholeheartedly!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)14:51 No.16633721
    I sure hope you mean you leant him a company not chapter.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)14:58 No.16633777
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    Thanks for your input, this is gonna be the final revision.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)15:02 No.16633806

    That's good. Still think it's strange to have a dreadnaught lying down but that's still much better than the original.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)15:06 No.16633834
    The DoW2 dreads had an ability that'd make them lie down, auto-repair and provide cover.

    I assume it's A-ok for them to be in that stance.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)15:07 No.16633846
    >necron servitor
    This cannot end well for that techpriest.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)15:18 No.16633929

    That's not a necron, it looks more like the alien from American Dad.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)15:19 No.16633937

    I guess if the codex supports the action...
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)15:32 No.16634048

    It also looks like it's halfway through a rant at that techpriest.

    "Damnit Mordecai! When I asked for tacos, I didn't mean from that crappy 5 tacos for a dollar place! I swear to God the minute I get down from here those tacos are going up a hole you don't even have yet!"
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)15:41 No.16634125
    Aw crap yeah, silly typo. I don't think even an RT has the balls to ask for a whole chapter.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)15:42 No.16634132
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    Have some OC.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)15:45 No.16634158
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    Saved to my reaction image folder
    Heresy GROWS from idleness captcha!
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)18:05 No.16635463
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    >typing in both words of the captcha
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)18:06 No.16635474
    I'm pretty certain dreadnoughts do not ever lay down. It looks much better when it's standing. Laying down, its legs look all bent. It looks weird, I don't like it anymore.
    >> !18rDrWhoRE 10/15/11(Sat)19:30 No.16636084

    I know theres new incarnations of this, but this seems like the best one.

    However, given how I've read the dreanaught 'reawakenings' in the Night Lords books and The Battle of the Fang, shouldn't it just be a massive crypt with ~10 of the honoured dead in sarcophagus' on a wall on one side, and then all the actual Dread parts on the other?
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)19:32 No.16636104
    >start with random chapter
    >mostly respect the codex, but have many librarians because they have some pretty awesome abilities
    >go around fighting xenos, killing heretics and generally just doing random space marine stuff
    >find some old relic at some point
    >techpriests keep failing at trying to analyze it
    >give it to chief librarian anyway, forget about it
    >several years pass
    >suddenly, chaos cults are starting to spring up all over my home world
    >keep fighting them off, but they keep coming back. suddenly massive demon army RIGHT THE FUCK INSIDE MY MONASTERY
    >huge rip in the fabric of reality right into the warp
    >all my librarians and about 200 of my marines have mysteriously disappeared
    >massive surge in cult activity, whole planet basically turns on me
    >fuck this shit, this world is lost
    >become fleet based chapter, try to regroup to take care of what I've caused
    >-][- blames me for it all, believes I'm tainted, sends massive fleet. I have to flee while they get held back by the rebellion on my former home world
    >still fight for the EMPRAH, even though he has forsaken me
    >throw chapter at some Ork WAAAGH!
    >-][- was right, half of my chapter mutates horribly and turns to chaos during the battles, somehow manage to get them between me and the Orks so they mostly kill each other
    >still somehow make it out alive while mostly destroying all the traitor and Ork forces
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)19:34 No.16636122
    How much would you pay for a version of this, developed by Relic
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)19:40 No.16636175

    About $60.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)20:32 No.16636607

    It looks more like it's at the gynecologist's when it's lying down.
    >> Anonymous 10/15/11(Sat)22:33 No.16637789
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    This isnt a troll game is it? Please tell me this is actually happening... I mean, I see the website ...and .. /tg/ does get shit done... but still... the pure awesomeness...

    I want this so bad...
    >> Night Wardens 10/15/11(Sat)23:59 No.16638557
    Fucking Maiden World's man, there's gotta be a way of identifying them. Just not worth the trouble to hold them unless you stay there in force.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)00:00 No.16638567
    It was a troll game, and now, if /tg/ can do it, it will ascend to the plane of reality.
    We aren't blind to the fact that people will flake off this project. We need enough people to pull through that phase and still have a determined team.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)00:11 No.16638670

    I cant programme or draw. I do have a massive interest in fluff though...
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)01:17 No.16639310
    >Doesn't have the balls

    How do you do that? Put gibberish together so that it looks like actual speech, yet has no rational meaning?
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)01:30 No.16639447
    Reading all this green texts it has occured to me, that the game would need away to request Inquisitorial or Guard/PDF assistance. Marines aren't made to hold territory on their own.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)01:39 No.16639544
    Investigate it. Maiden Worlds may have Exodite commuities or ancient ruins. Just check the ancient ruins again in case they are Old Ones (meh), Necrontyr (EXTERMINATUS) or DOTA (FUCK YES).
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)01:39 No.16639559
    Those are called Word Salads.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)02:10 No.16639845
    That's right, they aren't. But what the game should have is the Inquisition and the Guard requesting the marines' help, and the marines not trying to hold any territory but their homeworlds. To exceed one's task is heresy, citizen.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)07:12 No.16641674
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    Don't make me add a MoF preparing his powerfist for a prostate exam.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)11:25 No.16642909
    You know you want to.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)13:41 No.16644146


    Alternatively, replace humiliating with arousing.
    >> Chapter Master dev coordinator !!WT5kWiwTesn 10/16/11(Sun)16:20 No.16645568
    You've just written an ingame event, Anon. Well done.
    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)16:26 No.16645614

    >> Anonymous 10/16/11(Sun)19:14 No.16647183
    >Cruising along in my fleet-based Chapter
    >Meet with a Chapter I had no idea existed
    >They call themselves the 'Thunder Warriors'
    >Okay, like the Storm Lords or something? Talk to their CM.
    >He is spouting all this crazy religious crap about the Emperor and how he was sent here to examine my Chapter.
    >Bitch I have survived three Inquisition inspections. Bring it.
    >"You are not treading in the Emperor's light! You will never walk on Terra again, much less crusade in His name!"
    >The Thunder Warriors speed away from my fleet. Okay...
    >Inquisition fleet drops in right in front of my fleet. Oh shit.
    >Get hailed. "Have you seen another Chapter around this sector?" Tell them yes and they follow the Thunder Warriors.
    >What just happened? Whatever, I'll just-
    >"Warning! Your [1st Company] is acting strangely!"

    Seriously, what the hell just happened? I had 0 corruption. My faith was pretty high, even if we didn't believe the Emperor was a god...
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)00:22 No.16650291
    Can't wait to see that
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)02:46 No.16651431
    >mfw I'm charged by the =][= for neglecting my oaths to defend the system
    That's not right. It should be the Adeptus Arbites that do that.
    >> Starshadow 10/17/11(Mon)03:10 No.16651624
    I think we are kind of making the Inquisition out to be a lot more powerful than they are.

    One inquisitor can't just show up and declare heresy over a chapter or even exterminatus over some random world. He needs to have a concrete reason and if he doesn't he will get assraped by the rest of the Inquisition the moment they conduct a peer review.

    The Inquisition also has NO authority over space marines. They can show up and request help and cooperation but they do so on the marine's terms. The marines can and will tell them to fuck off sometimes. See: Fenris.
    >> Starshadow 10/17/11(Mon)03:12 No.16651640
    The Inquisition isn't responsible for holding Space Marines to oaths that don't involve them. (or anyone else for that matter)

    The people in this scenario who have a legitimate beef are the people from that planet. (who are probably all dead). And even then the marines could just go DEAL WITH IT.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:15 No.16651673
    The other people who would have a beef are the Adeptus Arbites, not the Inquisition. Like I just said.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:24 No.16651743
    >New patch
    >Fightan Necrons
    >Overlord Aken requests diplomatic dialogues

    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:27 No.16651771
    Where are these greentext stories coming from?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:29 No.16651789
    Out of fictional completed versions.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:30 No.16651805
    Depends on the Chapter. A First Founding chapter like the Space Wolves draped in glory? Yes, you can tell the Inquisition to fuck off.

    A later Founding Chapter who deals in Chaos Artifacts like the Relictors? Time for Excommunicate Traitoris.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:35 No.16651839
    >Possess Dark Age VR Training Device
    >Recruits keep making fun of the Tech Priest overseeing it
    >He starts to get sloppy and self absorbed
    >Entire Chapter destroyed by VR daemons
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:36 No.16651844
    That's purely dependent on how powerful you are, which is determined by your Glory and how well respected you are. If you're powerful enough, they'll throw an inquisitor under the bus to avoid antagonizing you no matter how legit his evidence against you is. But if you're a little nobody chapter, you can be declared heretical just for being rude.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:52 No.16651938
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    >Random Chapter
    >Get Dark Angels Successor Chapter Angels of Absolution
    >Start out with not much going on fortifying, never played a dark angels chapter before
    > Veterans of the 13th black crusade feature pretty cool, guys seem pretty tough so far
    > OH SHIT
    > Search out that shit, send my veterans from 4th squad and fucking demi squad
    > Send in Brother Malach just for good fucking measure in that fucking MK V
    >Lets fucking do this
    >Oh shit.jpg
    > =][= Event
    > =][= actually wants to help for once
    > With inquisition help, able to fucking get Cypher (no idea how) after sending in 75% of my shit, and 75% of that getting wrecked
    >=][= wishes to interrogate CYPHER
    > Give them Cypher
    > Instead of Getting Cypher back, I get a fucking Jokareo.
    > Jokareo
    WTF?! Seriously? I capture cypher and all I get is a god damned orange ape? Is this game that fucked up?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:54 No.16651959
    Trolled by Cypher.

    Now you need to purge your own Chapter. Have fun.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:54 No.16651960
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:57 No.16651974
    Psss.... it wasn't =][=. It was Alpharius.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:57 No.16651975
    FUCK! I Saved before that point, and I let that scenario play out. Fucking =][= didn't do shit when I said no. Still though, what the fuck do the Jokareo do? I have seen nobody else get one.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)03:58 No.16651980
    wasn't that....wasn't that a short story in a warhammer novel? Like a chapter serf or maybe scout got a shit duty station keeping the VR things maintained, and then hulked out on some demons. But they eventually killed him and became real?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)04:00 No.16651999
    Jokareo happen when you get trolled by the inquisition and you are actually able to pay up. It happens really really rare. What happens is that the Jokareo gives your chapter master a baleful eye and part of your chapter fucking digi weapons. It's glorious. Though you fucked up by giving cypher to the =][=, Dark Angels reward is way the fuck better
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)04:04 No.16652023
    Hell in a Bottle.

    Turns out the real reason you don't here about Primarch Rubicon and the 2nd Legion is because they play too much Call of Duty.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)04:06 No.16652039
    The author said that he accidentally called Rubinek the Primarch of the Iron Hearts instead of the Chapter Master. Tis a shame, those were awesome names for a chapter and marines.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)04:07 No.16652053
    >Random Chapter
    >Blood Ravens
    >Expecting gifting everywhere and stealing of shit.
    > NOPE.jpg
    > Start off having to go up against a huge Ork WAAAGH.
    >What the fuck ever.
    > Craftworld Event
    > Eldar come to fuck up everything
    > Eldar leave, Blood Ravens survive.
    > Right after Craftworld Event
    > Pass those bitches.
    > Have option to get more librarians
    > Well fuck that is normal for Blood Ravens
    > Get more Librarians
    > Think everything is going well
    > Heretical Cults forming nearby
    > Half chapter has fallen to chaos
    > FML
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)04:07 No.16652056
    Dark Angels' rewards can get kind of overpowered, they're up there with Iron Hands and Salamanders rewards in terms of old tech.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)04:08 No.16652060
    Steal the cults.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)04:12 No.16652097
    >Playing as Salamanders
    >all of my quests are either save helpless mortals or find some trinket Vulkan left on some ass backwards world
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)04:17 No.16652128
    Depends. How many Relics have you found?>>16652056
    Jokaero can be the most overpowered reward in the game, well if you get the grey knights patch, but with a regular chapter you can use the Jokaero multiple times if you are able to keep it engaged. A Jokaero equipped chapter can be fuck awesome, so long as you only get good stuff.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)04:20 No.16652154
    So far I have about 10 or 20 smaller trinkets and 3 or 4 of the larger ones.
    >> the FORMER director of project freelancer !!JS8aQfkNWow 10/17/11(Mon)04:22 No.16652168
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    excuse my slowpoke, but what is this? i'm highly interested.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)09:08 No.16653756
    Can someone please drop the irc # so I can lurk like a non productive toolbox?
    >> Starshadow 10/17/11(Mon)09:08 No.16653757
    The Emperor's work is never done!

    I need some ideas for greentext. What are some parts of the game that haven't got much mention?
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)09:13 No.16653787

    The Lamentors should be the only chapter in the game, precreated or custom made, that has a secret reroll whenever a random roll ends up being a success.
    >> Chapter Master dev coordinator !!WT5kWiwTesn 10/17/11(Mon)10:15 No.16654141
    It's on the Freenode server, which google will give you details on. #chaptermaster

    Have a look here, and excuse the currently incomplete state of the wiki: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Chapter_Master_(game)
    >> Chapter Master dev coordinator !!WT5kWiwTesn 10/17/11(Mon)10:17 No.16654152
    This may be overly specific, but I have no idea how we maintain the feel of a game oriented around the chapter master and not a company captain and keep the chapter master appraised of events on the ground some task force is deployed on.

    Other than that? The internal politics of the specialist teams. Techmarines arguan with other techmarines, chaplains with chaplains, lirbrarians, apothecaries, etc.

    I have no fucking idea if anyone can shoehorn some good ideas in that involve that.

    Also, genuine comic relief rather than >this fucking game
    >> Chapter Master dev coordinator !!WT5kWiwTesn 10/17/11(Mon)10:19 No.16654159
    Someone hasn't dispatched troops to Armageddon, I see.

    Jesus. The 'crusade' button is RIGHT THERE.
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)11:01 No.16654470

    >Brother Homus is arguing with Brother Maquinus
    >They are arguing over Brother Maquinus' decision to entomb Brother Mortus in a Dreadnought
    >Brother Homus strikes Brother Maquinus!
    >Brother Maquinus strikes Brother Homus!
    >Brother Homus has lost a hand!
    >Brother Maquinus resumes his tasks.


    >Brother-Apothecary Surgus has cauterized and bandaged Brother Homus's hand
    >Brother Maquinus gifts Brother Homus 1 Bionic Hand
    >> Chapter Master dev coordinator !!WT5kWiwTesn 10/17/11(Mon)11:31 No.16654748
    >> Starshadow 10/17/11(Mon)11:50 No.16654930
    > Playing Space Wolves
    > Two of your wolf lords are fighting!
    > You break up the fight to figure out what happened
    > Targ called Sven a pansy
    > Sven demands an honour duel!
    > Allow the duel, but declare the only acceptable weapon to be wooden benches
    > The duel commences!
    > There is much consternation at evening dinner
    > Sven and Targ get thirsty and end duel to look for ale to drink.
    > Sven is determined winner by lue of most spectators rendered unconscious
    >> Anonymous 10/17/11(Mon)14:41 No.16656271
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    Oh man. I want to roll up a lost, loyalist cadre of Emperor's Children.

    Whenever you run into the =][=, they try to execute you for HERESY, so you have to play a sort of Batman-ish chapter that serves the Imperium but avoids being seen. And you have no recruiting worlds, so you only recruit from people lost on Spacehulks or something.

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