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    65 KB Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:15 No.16275993  
    >When a character contracts lycanthropy through a lycanthrope’s bite (see above), no symptoms appear until the first night of the next full moon. On that night, the afflicted character involuntarily assumes animal form and forgets his or her own identity, temporarily becoming an NPC. The character remains in animal form, assuming the appropriate alignment, until the next dawn.

    The character’s actions during this first episode are dictated by the alignment of its animal form. The character remembers nothing about the entire episode (or subsequent episodes) unless he succeeds on a DC 15 Wisdom check, in which case he becomes aware of his lycanthropic condition.

    >Werebear alignment is Lawful Good.

    My players were playing in an evil campaign, and one of them was a very cliche` necromancer. He had a tower he'd taken in a previous adventure, and him and the party terrorized the local populace, extorting money for spells, taking women captives, etc. They fought against a cadre of werebears, and the necromancer was afflicted. He has not yet become aware of his affliction, and is trying to figure out why, after every full moon, the villagers find a large pile of salmon, to help them survive in this harsh and hostile land.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:17 No.16276026
    It's... it's beautiful
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:25 No.16276116
    this has serious potential
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:33 No.16276201
    I laughed so much harder than I should have.
    >> Lich Ted, Master of Nothing 09/12/11(Mon)19:34 No.16276214
    >> Alpharius 09/12/11(Mon)19:34 No.16276221
    Fucking AWESOME
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:36 No.16276238
    Wait, wait, wait, this wasn't everyone's first instinct when reading that entry?
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:37 No.16276247
    >Turn into bear
    >Go fishing

    Carry on.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:37 No.16276257
    funniest and most awesome case of lycanthropy I've heard about, haha.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:38 No.16276259
    Oh fuck, you're like benevolently sinister.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:38 No.16276264
    Hah, I was expecting the Werebear to murder the shit out of his own party, but that's even better.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:38 No.16276272
    I knew the aligment system was retarded but this comes as a surprise.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:41 No.16276304
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    *necromancer succeeds roll*


    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:41 No.16276306
    OP here, what should i have him do next?
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:42 No.16276313
    There is a prestige class called Bear Warrior, but a barbarian cannot be a werebear without falling.
    Alignment makes a lot of sense.
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    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:43 No.16276333
    Fight bandits, carry people across a raging river, and fuck up some bees, because bees are chaotic evil.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:44 No.16276358
    this is awesome.
    make him build cave refugees for the villagers where he cannot find them, with bee hive traps against himself.
    maybe donating to the church, that always torture the players.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:45 No.16276369
    This gives me an amazing idea: The players are hired to hunt down several werewolves who have been terrorizing the area. unbeknownst to them, the werewolves are THEM.

    The PCs are the BBEG.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:46 No.16276390
    Make his bear form figure out that he's normally an evil necromancer (shouldn't be too hard when he wakes up in a room full of disfigured corpses etc), and kill himself.

    Such a dick move, but lolwin.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:46 No.16276391
    archive. this. shit.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:47 No.16276404
    Thievery is happening to this idea. Now.

    The first half had merit.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:48 No.16276414
    Smash some skeletons and such. Next day, vow to destroy the rebels destroying your undead.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:49 No.16276431
    That only lasts as long as they fail to make that Wisdom check.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:49 No.16276439
    >Make his bear form figure out that he's normally an evil necromancer
    Bueno, this is a great idea-
    >and kill himself.
    Fail, never GM
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:49 No.16276441
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    "Hahahaha! I like your style, friend."
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:51 No.16276471
    Have him wake up naked next to naked druids, apparently he was a part of a shapeshifting orgy with nature lovers.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:55 No.16276503
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    A few questions:
    Are there any normal and/or dire bears in the area?
    Is a werebear sapient or intelligent in it's changed form?
    Can it communicate with "vanilla" bears?

    If yes to the above, four words: Villager Bear Cavalry Militia.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:55 No.16276507
    Then what if he was bitten by the moon?
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)19:58 No.16276530
    werebear romances female NPC who swoons at his manly bear-ism and falls in love with him. She begins a plot to turn the necromancer to the side of good so that she may also enjoy his company on the other 27 days of the month.


    'cure' for lycanthropy involves splitting PC into two beings - evil necromancer and good werebear. The two must then fight - TO THE DEATH. Have the player keep playing the one that survives.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:02 No.16276566
    >'cure' for lycanthropy involves splitting PC into two beings - evil necromancer and good werebear. The two must then fight - TO THE DEATH. Have the player keep playing the one that survives.

    I love this idea, despite it not making sense in this setting.
    >> Alpharius 09/12/11(Mon)20:04 No.16276576
    >'cure' for lycanthropy involves splitting PC into two beings - evil necromancer and good werebear. The two must then fight - TO THE DEATH. Have the player keep playing the one that survives.

    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:04 No.16276578
    Once he is aware of his condition you have to engineer a way to encourage him to change, just once, willingly.

    >Any voluntary change to animal or hybrid form immediately and permanently changes the character’s alignment to that of the appropriate lycanthrope.

    Problem, LG hero?
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:05 No.16276590
    but that's not how it worksssssssss :(
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:07 No.16276602
    >> 008 09/12/11(Mon)20:08 No.16276613
    Have the werebear infect the rest of the necromancer's evil friends. Now, every full moon, the campaign is suddenly about a group of LG werebears saving a village being troubled by an evil necromancer and his allies.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:10 No.16276624

    Honestly, I bet you could pull this off with two different groups of players. It would get pretty hilarious if they bumped into each other by the water cooler.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:10 No.16276634
    Fuck making sense, it's an awesome idea and needs to be done.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:11 No.16276638

    I like the cut of your jib.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:13 No.16276655
    This thread and the one about making a punch wizard able to lift the universe makes me want to play D&D simply to break it.
    >> ‫‬‭‮‪‫‬‭‮‫‬‭‮‪‫‬‭‮‫‬‭‮‪‫‬‭‮Praetor Lillifag‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬ 09/12/11(Mon)20:14 No.16276657
    ...And perhaps, realizing he's an evil necromancer, the bear would curse himself and his allies to never remember what they do on the full moon! And their lycanthropy activates more often!
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:19 No.16276698
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    no john, you are the heroes

    >necromancers face when
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:20 No.16276708
    Clearly he needs to become Bear Man, the half-bear superhero who fights crime by night
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:33 No.16276854
    Neeeeext M&M character.
    How many flaw points is that worth?
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:37 No.16276892
    Does this mean that if the PC was infected by a wereboar, which is neutral, he'd sit around and smoke weed all day, not caring about anything?
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:38 No.16276903
    They tend to just wander around.

    Maybe eat some mushrooms.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:38 No.16276910
    yeah but he'd never get infected by a wearboar, because all the do all day is sit around and smoke weed, not caring about anything.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:40 No.16276931

    Pick up a wereboar and jam it's tusks into your face until you fail a Fort save.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:46 No.16276980
    or steal his weed
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:47 No.16276987
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:58 No.16277082
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    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:58 No.16277090
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)20:59 No.16277095
    Instant BBEG
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)21:02 No.16277109
    >Implying you would survive
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)21:02 No.16277117
    You wake up. Someone has taken the skull of your undead minion and turned it into a candy bowl.

    Someone in this wretched villa still resists your authority...

    Someone will pay.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)21:02 No.16277118
    You become a complete and total dick that enjoys chewing off the testicles of whoever gets in your way.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)21:04 No.16277136
    silly anon
    The Were-Honey Badgers dies out with the same generation that they were created.
    along with everything else in that region of the world.
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)21:10 No.16277199
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    Oh god you're right.

    Even if they gave the half-a-fuck it would take to make sure that everything they fought (and ate) was dead, it would still manage to kill EVERYTHING in maybe a few weeks, tops?
    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)21:58 No.16277226
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    >> Anonymous 09/12/11(Mon)22:13 No.16277339
    have the wearbear don a helm of opposite alignment, when he wakes up he'll be a lawful good Conjurer
    >> Darth Itachi !!tNeHYqhngQr 09/13/11(Tue)00:03 No.16278466
    Isn't the animal form actually neutra? I thought the Lawful Good part was just the alignment that is most common among werebears and their bear forms are still neutral.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)00:09 No.16278535
    Even under the alignment section specifically for bear form, it says always Lawful Good.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)00:11 No.16278547
    Bears are godless killing machines. They know nothing of law.

    Also, enjoy your new wife.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)00:20 No.16278629
    The new face of teegee...
    >> ಠ_ರೃ 09/13/11(Tue)00:42 No.16278861
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    >To make matters worse, during the frenzy, all bite attacks have double the normal chance to transmit lycanthropy.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)02:38 No.16279708
    bump for late night crowd.
    >> Necrobrotent 09/13/11(Tue)02:42 No.16279736
    Wow its been like a month since I saw an idea I'd steal and this I would steal the shit out of.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)02:46 No.16279761
    If this happened to me I would laugh and laugh and laugh... Mainly because its just something that would happen to me.

    Now I do know people that would freak the hell out that their character is now ruined. But then they were also whiny shits and complained when things did not go right for them all the time.

    I remember one game where one of them bitched for an hour when they lost their character. All I said was "That was your first... I am currently on my 6th. Cry more."
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)02:49 No.16279779
    I'm sorry, but thanks to Redwall there's no way I can consider badgers to be Chaotic Evil.

    Well, Redwall and the college I attend.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)03:10 No.16279912
    Oh god, that is fantastic. Party of warebears? Hell yes.

    You could probably houserule a big flaw that the change is unwilling. That's what I'd do.
    >> Snapper Carr 09/13/11(Tue)03:13 No.16279928
    Why don't prisons just have werebear wardens that bite all the convicts so they're Lawful Good?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)03:17 No.16279951

    I have to do this in my next campaign.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)03:19 No.16279963
    Because they are ONLY Lawful Good when they are changed into Werebears during the full moon. The REST of the month they're their normal, evil selves.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)03:21 No.16279973

    I though the alignment was progressively changing to a middle ground between the lycantropy form and the original PC.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)03:22 No.16279984
    Nope. When transformed they are Lawful Good. They have to WANT to change alignment when in normal human mode.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)03:24 No.16280008
    Once they know they are a lycanthrope, they have to make a progressively more difficult will save every time they change, or permanently become the alignment of their animal form, even when in human form. And if they ever change on purpose, they automatically become that alignment, no save. So they can't even use that ability to break out of prison without immediately deciding that they deserve to be their.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)03:26 No.16280016
    there* even
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)03:28 No.16280038

    note to self: super dogmatic society; forces any malcontents to be bitten by werebears and imprisoned in a penal colony that through some form of magic or another has full moon effects every day for the whole year, unless they agree to make a voluntary shift to werebear and enlist in the country's crusades to 'enlighten' other realms, who naturally fear the werebear overlords.

    Werebear paladins may or may not use normal bears as mounts.
    >> !UdzMmUq0Oc 09/13/11(Tue)03:45 No.16280183
    Mother of god.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)03:58 No.16280251
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    I don't get it, the moon is technically always out so shouldn't lycanthropy be constant never ending torture regardless of time? I mean, just because you can't see the moon doesn't mean it isn't always there, it still effects tides in the morning, noon and night regardless of visibility... So what the fuck? Why does it, simply being 'at night with a full moon' matter at all? The way the moon looks from the Earth is entirely due to its position in relation to the sun, so shouldn't lycanthropy be attributed to the sun instead of the moon, if anything?

    Curses, how do they work?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:01 No.16280267

    >Science & Magic.

    No. Please. No. This is a fine thread about bears. Please, no, I beg you.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:01 No.16280272
    it just happens to kick in when the moon is full; the curse is there all the time, that's why it's possible to make voluntary transformations
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:01 No.16280275

    Seeing the moon, defining it as the moon. Saying "look, that is the moon" is what sets it off.

    Consensus reality and all that jazz makes applying science to most magical paradigms a waste of time since science is just a product of consensus reality in any setting that works that way.
    >> Dat Pimp Doom 09/13/11(Tue)04:05 No.16280296
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    The GLORY of Doom mocks your inability to use both for the greater power of the whole.

    With this cool pose, I, VICTOR VON DOOM, employ both science and magic and look pimp as shit doing it.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:08 No.16280315
    >Sun-bound lycanthropy.

    >In an interesting twist, werebears are raping and killing people in broad daylight and turning back into humans at night, more at eleven.

    Actually I can see some novice arcane caster totally fucking up his curse spell and this totally happens.
    >> Kreetn !TROLlvzGSU 09/13/11(Tue)04:15 No.16280354
    magic IS science.

    picture if you will, a race of beings, old enough to predate whatever current world you're residing on. they evolved and learned much like we did, but, given that we don't know how much time they had to dick around before they vanished, they could have advanced their knowledge of the universe and applied sciences to the point of say,
    oh i don't know, a universal system that could reform and disperse matter when presented with passwords (magic incantations) or visual identification (sigils, runes, etc)
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:23 No.16280397
    Have you, like, *never* heard of werewolves? It happens at a full moon because it happens at a full moon. Yipes and cripes, man.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:34 No.16280465
    The moon is always full technically, that's the point.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:36 No.16280484

    laughed at this harder than I should have.

    Party of were-bears channeling the spirits of winnie the pooh, yogi, and baloo?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:39 No.16280514

    "Only the light of the sun reflected on the half of the moon at night can awake the curse of lycantropy"

    Welp, here you go.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:43 No.16280544
    Jungle Book Baloo, or TailSpin Baloo?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:44 No.16280554
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    The Pooh in that party is going to be a complete asshole.

    Perhaps even enough of one to be party leader.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:44 No.16280555
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    Don't forget Smokey Bear. Imagine one evil player seeing a forest fire, and making a will save. When he passes, he sheds a single tear, and doesn't know why...
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)04:52 No.16280615
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    Bear Fucker Man

    The BBEG of this campaign.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)05:10 No.16280725
    >fucking up bees

    After a few months, Necromancer notices that he has a shit-ton of honey in his larder. There's also a market for honey in his surrounding villages that the villages can't account for. Barrels of the stuff just show up once a month, and it helps them get by.

    Wereform has been campaigning against a hive of dire bees, who are now paying him honey in tribute. They've also declared war on the Necromancer's undead minions.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)05:13 No.16280742
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    The bees are the minions of a particularly homosexual werepig druid.
    >> DaQuestOrk !!zLTJPOVdr4t 09/13/11(Tue)05:16 No.16280758
    OP your wearbear better tap for G
    >> DaQuestOrk !!zLTJPOVdr4t 09/13/11(Tue)05:44 No.16280763
    OP your wearbear better tap for G
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)05:46 No.16280783
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    >this entire thread

    I love you, /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)05:47 No.16280796
    "Would you make a Wisdom check, please? DC 15."

    *Rolls dice*

    "Yeah, I made it, so what?"

    "Did you know that you like to attack with your natural weapons?"
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)05:55 No.16280842
    If the Werebear passes his Wis Check, have him become aware not just of his necromancer side, but all his plans.

    He immediately resolves to go and fuck up those plans in the only way expected of a bear. Mauling and biting the shit out of it.

    Any surviving minions will babble incoherently about a walking bear as they're dying.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)07:18 No.16281216
    I call bullshit.
    >A character with awareness of his condition retains his identity and does not lose control of his actions if he changes. However, each time he changes to his animal form, he must make a Will save (DC 15 + number of times he has been in animal form) or permanently assume the alignment of his animal form in all shapes.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)07:22 No.16281229
    Its the moonlight that does it. The pure light of the entire moon not being corrupted by the harsh light of the sun is required. Also, i hear people become more easily aroused during full moons.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)09:15 No.16281751
    >Also, I hear people become more easily aroused during full moons.

    I'm pretty sure that's thunderstorms.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)13:24 No.16282821
    Oh god, that would be such a sure way to dick over the necromancer.

    "Yeah, you made the DC check. You also noticed that a curse has been placed to have the moon remain full every single night. Better hurry up on that cure!"

    Pretty sure that's nighttime.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)13:32 No.16282877
    why are werebears lawful good exactly?

    thems bears will eat you slowly.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)14:16 No.16283135
    Because when the question "What would the most badass wereX paladin be?" the answer was bears.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)14:31 No.16283250
    This thing is the best thing ever, and I love you all.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)14:33 No.16283275
    Werebear Paladin of Pelor, a repentant Rogue blessed so that he changes into a werebear at day time.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)15:10 No.16283576
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)15:13 No.16283599
    Because Beorn from the Hobbit.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)15:54 No.16284035

    Lycanthropes can change voluntarily at any time day or night, they change involuntarily during the full moon.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)16:38 No.16284545
    Make them all werebears!

    Shenanigans ensue!
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)19:18 No.16286099
    So wait, if werebears are Lawful Good, which wereanimal is Chaotic Evil? Just out of curiosity.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)20:27 No.16286721

    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)21:05 No.16287049
    Bah, badgers are boring. I was hoping for a weresnake or something awesome.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)21:17 No.16287161
    Azrael from Ravenloft happens
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)21:18 No.16287163
    Could you possibly make it a werebear paladin, just so it can have a celestial bear mount?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)21:21 No.16287184
    But seriously guys, why is it that it took this guy pointing it out to you to think of this?

    Like, the fact that not all animals had evil forms of lycanthropy made me always want to make Good or Neutral lycanthropes whose normal form was evil.

    Usually, I thought of it in terms of an NPC, 'cause controlling a PC is difficult, but this idea has always been in the back of my mind.

    Why else would Werebears be LG?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/11(Tue)21:29 No.16287260
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    If were curse infects everything the victim bites, how long before there are armies of them every full moon?
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    >read OP
    >scan thread for screenshot
    Dammit, you guys.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/11(Wed)00:02 No.16288677
    >Why else would Werebears be LG?
    because if a fucking werebear says he's right, who is going to argue with him?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/11(Wed)00:21 No.16288882
    >> Anonymous 09/14/11(Wed)05:27 No.16290933
    Wait, what?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/11(Wed)05:35 No.16290981
    The bearform activly attempts to counter any evil acts done when not a bear
    this bear-form becomes a overarching enemy, causing the party to search for the cause, eventually (after much effort) the group find out who it is, at this point, the bear from has become the BBG and lich and bear must fight it out in their head for dominance.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/11(Wed)05:35 No.16290982
    Werebear is still a mage, isn't he? Have him secretly research the ways to eradicate his evil human form and stay as a bear forever. It could be really fun when PC finds out.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/11(Wed)05:57 No.16291101
    I think it is more fun if he just keeps the bear form as a mysterious do-gooder. No need to have the bear actively sabotage the necromancer, it is enough that he undoes the damage done or makes it harder for the necromancer to do his work.

    It's hard to raise an undead army with any subtlety if all of the communities have better food, medicine,and higher life expectancy.

    For extra fun have the villagers treat the bear as some superhero. Obviously he's a big freaking human or maybe even a half-orc who is wearing a Bear mask and saving communities. Imagine the frustration of the party when any investigations only point within if they go anywhere at all.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/11(Wed)12:53 No.16294088
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    This would be an awesome reversal of the usual lycanthropy story.

    Evil man mauled by werebear turns to goodness, proceeds to kick ass and maul entire evil cult into more with BEAR JUSTICE.

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