Ok well first things first, let's pick a character concept.
Any ideas? if you guys are uninspired then I can give you a choice...

Snake Oil Huckster

Kung Fu master with mad acrobatics skills.

I believe you owe us an arab

what about a cave man?
Tall, HUEGSTRONG, wearing simple furs and weilding a massive 2-handed club

I have no idea what that first on is, so we'll go with the kung fu mofo.

ok, now we have our target, we can get down to the mechanics of character building. This is how you're build a character for a campaign.

First, we need to work out what out Priorities are.
Now I'm saying this guy's gonna be human, which sorts out our F Priority, so now you guys need to work out the other 5. You have 5 other priorities above F, from highest at A to lowest at E.

Assign those priorities depending on which of these following character aspects is most/least important to you.
Social Class
Attributes
Skills
Proficiencies
Gifts and Flaws
the effects of each assigned priority are in the attatched table...

>>16226243
Proficiencies, attributes, gifts, skills, social class

>>16226243
social class D, gifts at C, take the little flaw.
Be a wee free man.

>>16226243
Social Class
>D
Attributes
>A
Skills
>C
Proficiencies
>B
Gifts and Flaws
>E

My 2 cents

Hmm, so I'm hearing Gifts at C and Social Class at D, now the other options need 2 of the same vote to go through!
Attributes, Proficiencies and Skills still left to have at least 1 deciding vote.

how odd
TROS threads have been going off splendidly lately, dunno why it's so quiet around this here thread.

anyway, I posted >>16226300
So since nobody is sayin' anything, I'll reiterate my choice for stats. I admit that I have no idea what the difference between skills and proficiencies is though.
Is one combat and one social?

>>16226463
cus we were all up so late last night watching Sulla kill genoese

>>16226345
we could go proficiencies A (just, you know, to vary a bit. the char creation system is broken, leads always to the same choices... or maybe we've fallen in a rut) and get 2 weapons, melee and ranged.

ok, that's Proficiency A
and as we have less activity, let's have Attributes B and Skills E.

>>16226613
sounds good, lets move this along

ok, well we've got a Human Low Freeman with 1 major gift and 1 minor flaw, 43 Attribute points, proficiency 14 and 9/9 skill.

well lets deal with the gifts and flaws first shall we?

>>16226697
berserker gift, little flaw!
nae king, nae laird, and so on

I beg forgiveness, I have got to leave, my wonderful family apparently require I cook. now.
I'll be back later, although the character creation is relatively straightforward once you get going, so if anyone has the core book then they can take over describing the various aspects. sorry about that guys.

we could discuss were to go with this character in the meanwhile.
what weapons to use? schools?
is he really going to be a nac mac feegle ripoff?
is he even going to be an he?

>>16226790
A BONNIE IRISH LASS WITH A BIG HEART AND A BIGGER AXE

guys, we were going for kung-fu monk.
maybe a BONNIE IRISH LASS MYSTERIOUSLY RAISED IN TIBET WIELDING THE TERRIBLE POWERS OF CELTIC KUNG-FU

Signing in here. Just home from work. Need a beer and a shower (at the same time).
There was a RoS thread during the day too, in which some anon asked about weapons proficiencies.

>>16227124
the little berserker choice is still relevant, then!

ok, if this is alive then I have returned, family fed etc.

so are we still on the monk or have you guys decided to make Daft Wullie?

>>16227616
'ittin them with me head doesn't count as monking?

I just want to address a couple things from the end of last thread, really quick.

>leave only a narrow space at the side of the neck.

That's sort of all you really need. A horizontal swing would, were it not for that shield, be a severe threat--as would a forward thrust. I've also never seen a scarf around the neck depicted--if it existed, I imagine it was most common in Judea.


>We also have records of legionaries armouring their lead leg's shin.

I've heard this several times. Do you have a picture to reference this? Because I have never actually SEEN it. Almost every depiction I've seen has shown legionary regulars with completely bare legs, and only officers with greaves.

I will say though that Roman steel wasn't shitty in the least, though. It was actually pretty solid stuff since they got it from the same source as the Spanish did centuries later.

A wee free man might be more interesting - we haven't done non-humans before.

ok, so the Gifts descriptions are way too long to post them all, so I'll post the names and give more details on the ones you like look of, those of you with the core turn to page 43.

Absolute Direction
Allies
Ambidexterity
Animal Kin
Area Knowledge
Beauty of Legends
Good Reputation
Intuition
Linguist
Patron
Quick Healing
True Leadership

just so you know, most gifts and flaws have been updated/errataed in the Companion, and new ones added.

>>6227709
Hmmm, the guidelines for races in tRoS are pretty loose, although I assume we'd have to change our race priority from F to B to be able to use a non-human.

although while looking for other races I did come across stats for a were-bear...

>>16227840
bleh, I'm not so keen on the pointsbuy system, but I'll add the other gifts.

20/20
Accuracy
Alert
Careful
Driven
Exceptional Hearing
Glorious Destiny
Great Presence
Hardy
Heir
High Pain Threshold
Intellectual
Jack of all Trades
Light Sleeper
Marksman
Nimble
Quick Hands
Quick Wits
Resolute
Social Butterfly
Steadfast
Tireless
True Compassion
True Faith
True Love/True Hatred
Wealthy
in addition to all previously listed.

>>16227856
Beer? Check
Showered? Check.
Tunes dirtier than a council flat kitchen? Check.

Let's live up to my name then! I'll try and scan The Riddle of Steel tonight, unless the Roughneck Bass makes my brain bleed.

speaking of RoS
I have this idea for an npc who is a blinded knight who was an incredible badass when he could see, thing is, the players might end up fighting with him.do you think he should be easymodo or should I go a little cinematic on them?

>>16227946
after the flaw part there is also berserker, that can be taken both as a gift or a flaw

>>16228029
He should have been a great hero. A brilliant crusader. A flower of chivalry.
He should never back down from a just cause, or helping an old ally.
He should ride into battle with his horse chained between that of two of his knights.
He should be hacked down in a viscious and desperate battle by mere peasantry. His coat of arms should be stolen by the enemy's nobility.
He should be the damned blind King of Bohemia.

>..for all that he was nigh blind, when he understood the order of the battle, he said to them about him: 'Where is the lord Charles my son?' His men said: 'Sir, we cannot tell; we think he be fighting.' Then he said: 'Sirs, ye are my men, my companions and friends in this journey: I require you bring me so far forward, that I may strike one stroke with my sword.' They said they would do his commandment, and to the intent that they should not lose him in the press, they tied all their reins of their bridles each to other and set the king before to accomplish his desire, and so they went on their enemies. The lord Charles of Bohemia his son, who wrote himself king of Almaine and bare the arms, he came in good order to the battle; but when he saw that the matter went awry on their party, he departed, I cannot tell you which way. The king his father was so far forward that he strake a stroke with his sword, yea and more than four, and fought valiantly and so did his company; and they adventured themselves so forward, that they were there all slain, and the next day they were found in the place about the king, and all their horses tied each to other.
>According to the Cronica ecclesiae pragensis benesii krabice de weitmile, before he died at the Battle of Crécy, he said: "With God's help it will never be that a Bohemian king would run from a fight!"

>>16228029
make him god-tier on proficiencies, but like double his TN for everything, because he's got lots of experience and fighting is second nature to him, but he's relying on his other senses to try and make and defend against attacks.

>>16228078
>>16228104
well thats inspiring!
what was TN again?

>>16228193
the number you have to roll to get a success.
if his TN would be 4, it is now 8, if it is 7, it is now 14, etc...

>>16228193
Target Number. What you have to roll over to hit shit with your sword (or block shit with your shield. etc.)

Pic Related.

>>16228232
>>16228217
aah offcourse

>>16228264

Oh damn, that's the quality of your scan?

You rock, good sir.

>>16228078
funny you should say that cus he actually IS ...er...WAS a crusader. he got his eyes burned by nafta

>>16228078
A man to be remembered. One more debt to repay the English.

>>16228291
Well, that's the quality at the ends of the book, when the middle isn't such an issue, and when it's been tidied up. Worst case is the pic for a tidied page. I'll post up an untidied one next.

>>16228029
>>16228078
>>16228357
You guys heard of Jan Zizka?

>>16228291
Here's the latest page, fresh off the scanner.

Ugh, Riddle of Steel. So complicated, and yet still makes one gender mechanically superior to another and sucks at fights that are not one-on-one (you know, 99% of fights in RPGs).

>>16228357

>>16228419
You don't say. How about dem Yanks, eh?

>>16228385
The Hussite Leader? He won a billion battles and killed way too many Germans. Cool guy.

>>16228419
Fights that aren't one-on-one tend to be over quickly in reality.

>>16228491
Jan Zizka was eventually completely blind, and he was from Bohemia.

>>16228419
Yeah you get a slight penalty to your starting height and weight as a woman and should probably wear a codpiece as a dude, big fuckin' whoop.

>>16228473
La Hire finds your enthusiasm arousing, and invites you to remember this moment at Patay.

>>16228493
Actually, if you aren't scared to invest you pool on movement, you can swashbuckle your way around mooks with ease. IF they are mooks, of course.
It's a nice mechanic.

>>16228523
He also had his skin made into a drum after his death so that he could continue marching into battle with his men.

It's weird that around here Bohemians are used as an example of laziness. I've never seen it personally, every example of their actions seems to involve someone doing ridiculously out of their way to get something done.

>>16228561
I question more why there is a stereotype of the blind wandering Japanese swordsman and not of the blind wandering mace-wielding Bohemian knight.

>>16228531 Yeah you get a slight penalty to your starting height and weight as a woman and should probably wear a codpiece as a dude, big fuckin' whoop.

I'm wearing a codpiece right now, it's just a sensible precaution against the ever-present risk of time travelling dick-stabbing Romans.

>>16228419
Large fights are a bit more complicated than usual, but I maintain that they are some of the best done of any game I've ever played.

The only real complication as I see it is that there's no order in which to move through each of the mini-combats that would make up every brawl. Just having everyone go through on exchange makes sense, but sometimes these effect each other, and there should be a way to keep them from entangling up, or someone taking an extra exchange by accident and pushing ahead in time somehow.

As for the gender business... I'm not seeing it. Women are slightly better at handling groin shots, but even then the amount of shock and pain being done to the same area is enough to doom anyone in the next exchange.

>>16228583
I laughed my time travelling tits off.

Also, stat me.

>>16228623
tell us your stories, skald?

>>16228705
+4 to redneck.

Hey Scannon, any progress with the books? I'm eagerly awaiting the download, right now I'm still working from the shitty copy and I've got a session tomorrow.

Love your work so far, thanks for the effort.

>>16228577

I believe that is due to Zatoichi, who I believe is a popular fictional blind sword-master in Japen.

Not sure though.

>>16228705

Transexual Redneck
ST 5 WP 3 Reflex 7
AG 7 Wit 7 Knockout 3
TO 4 MA 4 Knockdown 6
EN 6 Soc 4 Aim 5
HT 3 Per 4 Move 9
Proficiencies: Axe 8
Equipment: Axe, Penis, Stuffed Bra (AV 2 torso)
CP: 15

>>16228709
I have told stories before. Quite a few of them, but I've been asked to stop. My Seneschal/DM is on here, and he has been getting tired of people hearing the end of his stories before he tells them. And I'm a bad storyteller anyway.

>>16228761
I shall upload a big ass file of the scanned .jpgs of every page, except for the sorcery section, overnight tonight. I cannot do better than that, because my connection sucks and cleaning up the pictures takes about five minutes per page. With Photoshop macros and everything.

This is the latest page to be scanned. There are about 265 pages in the book.

After than, I might scan the sorcery section, for completeness. In any case, I hope to have a beautiful .pdf out by the end of next week.

After that, I'm thinking of setting up some kind of Riddle of Steal v. 2.0 wiki so that we can group-source the complete, errata-ed, supplemented rules for TRoS. But that's a long-term dream.

After that, I'm gonna stab you in the dick through the medium of science. For the lulz.

>>16228806
well I dont recall an abundance of RoS stories... and I dont see no seneschy around...

>>16228826

You are credit to team!

>>16228826
and lo, Scannon the patron saint of RoS descendend upon the wild tribesmen of Teegee and showed them the way of the steel

>>16228826
Someone "crowd source" some OCR in here!

>>16228826
awesome man!

ok, I cba with char-gen and it looks like you lot don't care either, so who wants to kill a were-bear?

>>16228842
THROUGH THE MEDIUM OF SCIENCE.

I want to go back to being anon now...

>>16228881
She >>16228705 does.

>>16228829
I've told one RoS story before, which ain't many granted, and a fair handful of Pathfinder tales. Every time, the guy gets a bit more frustrated that I'm spoiling stuff for /tg/ before he can get there.
And trust me. You know my seneschal.

Every preview .pdf I've put out so far has had searchable OCR-ing.

DICK STABBINGS FOR ALL.

>>16228935
oh just one RoS tale!

>>16228943
so where can we find it once you upload it?

>>16228960
I don't know. Mediafire or Megaupload or something. I probably won't put it on /rs/ (does it even work) until we've got the beautiful .pdf done.

I'll advertise on here when the plain scan's .jpgs are uploaded. Which could very well mean in eight-nine hours time.

>>16228953
Yeah, just the one. I mean I could relay that one. I like relaying that one, I've got permission to relay that one.

>>16228985
what a tweest. that about when I plan on getting up.
right...imma knock myself asleep with a stick now

>>16228998
get to it. my time left here is numbered

>>16228985
I think it's put on /rs/ automatically as soon as you give a link.
Is that this ?
http://www.mediafire.com/?dohsbc8609dsokd

>>16229027
That's a preview of the finished article, aye.

Except that the Beautiful .PDF will have bookmarks. Yeeeees. It shall be my preeeccciiiooouuuussss.

>>16229012
You know what, I've got a better idea. I'll leave it for the man himself, so that you can go to sleep or whatever it is people do when they're not on 4chan.

Ask Galt about That Time We Defended The Village. I'll get an angry message on my phone, you'll get a better story than I could tell.

>>16229008
What the fuck's a tweest?

>onotters order
On which otter's order?

>>16229062
Galt is your GM?

You lucky, lucky devil.

>>16229054
Yay !

>>16229095
Part time. He travels a lot for work, and runs for us whenever he's in town. He's good at it, and all that. They're great games, though short. I think he has a lot of time to plan things out because he spends so much time on planes.

>>16229074
it is shamalayadingdongish for twist

>>16229162
You win some, you lose some.

Silly tangent - I put my foot on the book as it's scanned, to help keep it flat against the glass. I'm also listenning to dubstep. Some of this batch are a bit... skewed...

>>16229198
Oh you.
>That's our Scannon!

Busy scanning the blank pages at the end of the book.
Why?
Completeness...

>>16229285
I laughed out loud.

>>16226145
Haters, continue thine hatred.

A very masochistic part of me wants to scan the sorcery section now.
Why?
Completeness...

Archive is 400MB+

This connection is very shitty.

Most sites won't let me upload files bigger than 200MB.

I'm trying MegaUpload, but we could be in for a long journey guys. It's predicting two hours, and I have to leave for work in six and a half...

>Pick not really related. Just what happened when the bass cannon hit it. Still perfectly legible...

>>16228705
Tranny Level 1

rolled 32 = 32

>>16229664
>2.5 MB, 2975x4094
>scanning_it_wrong.gif

You seriously don't need an image that big if you're putting it into a PDF. People don't need to see the individual dots that make up the gray background.

I realize you already scanned it all, but if you have Photoshop, IrfanView, Gimp, or some other editor you can probably set it to batch resize them.

Not ragging on you (scanners = gods) but just saying you might be able to make an more wieldy book with no noticeable loss of quality if you shrank it up.

>>16229664
Your labors will be recognized, comrade. I salute you, and your diligence in single-handedly making this game accessible to the public.

>>16229746
True. But at the same time, this is not the finished .pdf. This is me going 'Yes, I am still working on it. Here, have the fruits of my labours thus far, just in case I disappear off the face of the earth.'
At the moment, most of the images need to be re-sized (83%), cropped (2275x3000) and have their levels fiddled with / things unskewed. Then I'll see about changing the quality and re-sizing them again for .pdf. Believe me, adjusting centre-fold-shadow is a lot easier at a big resolution.

If that's not a good enough explanation, then I'll just have to stab you in the dick through time and space.

>>16229788

Hey Galt! Is it time to continue the saga of our favorite time-travelling dick-stabbing shield-bashing Roman?

>>16230039
Certainly could be. Am I interrupting anything?

>>16230053

I don't think so. The attempt to create a character seems to have derailed already.

>>16230053
We're harassing Scannon because we love him. I'm sure everyone could appreciate a bit of blood right about now, we left off at a crazy point too. Tying in Sulla's ass whooping buffet with Gizka's sexual tension fall girl.

The fighting isn't over, right?

Why do you hate my sleep!

WOO! TIME FOR SULLA TO DICKSTAB HISTORY ONCE MORE!

We've just crushed the skull of a codpiece-wearing Genovan, I do believe the samurai is up next!

>>16230078
I lament that that didn't go better, I saw some cool ideas up there.

Those four horses they tied the King of Bohemia to? Wasn't just because he was blind. It was to help carry his massive balls.

>>16230111
Ahh yes! Now I have an extra special treat for you lot regarding the Samurai. I've been trying to work out how to stat a Naginata.

I figured the Samurai (who's an old member of my personal stock, and thus has a name,) should either have a bow or a polearm. I settled on polearm because Sulla doesn't need to get shot at again, he needs a real melee fight!

Naginata seemed sensible. So as to stat it out, I felt that the FoB's analogy of it being similar to the Falx was unfair, and I've taken my own steps to stat one out.

Awsome!
I finally get in on a Sulla thread in time instead of having to read it off of sup/tg/

I will be rolling for the enemies as my dice luck tends to suck.

>>16230115
I still think a wheelbarrow befits more a true warrior.

And it offers AV5 to upwards blows to the massive crotch.

>>16230177

Is there a glaive statted out anywhere? a Naginata is functionally a glaive, even if they don't look that much alike.

>>16230200
Heh.

Now, some might disagree with me here, but I feel that the best analogy for Naginata combat that I've seen is Poleaxe fighting. If it were possible, i'd suggest giving this thing a Draw Cut of +2, but there's no real precedent of that with polearms.

Anyway, it'll use the Poleaxe proficiency, since that seems convenient.

>>16230223
I'd say a glaive is more choppy and less slashy.

What I would really love to see done next after we are done with the Sulla nightly fight is a 2 vs 3 or 2 vs 4 fight with the outnumbered ones being more badass of course.

>>16230223
For whatever reason, they decided not to include glaives. The closest they've got are Partisans, to me, those feel more like those Japanese spears with the huge cross-pieces just below the tip.

So I figure a more cut-oriented poleaxe without the big hammer/backspike stuff would be appropriate.

>>16230252
I'd say the draw cut could work, personally.

>>16230297
A kamayari would absolutely be a partisan.

>>16230252
Hm. Not bad, but I'd make it VL, not L. Naginata are fairly reachy weapons.

>>16230252
I would have said cut damage +2, considering the +3/+4 of the bardiche and others.

But I have no idea if it would actually represent the dreaded cutting power of the japanese blades.

>>16230355
Most of said dread cutting power is in extremely low cutting TNs (and 7 is pretty low for a pole weapon) and high draw cut mods.

Alright!

Sulla has just pronounced himself the greatest warrior to have ever lived (perhaps presumptuous, but at the time it seemed like a fair claim) by roaring throughout eternity his victory over the Italian.

However, a sound whispers out from behind him. As though answering his shout, a different sort of gate as opened.

From it falls the decapitated corpse of some sort of steppelander, and over the body steps a bizarrely armored man, with a vicious curved polearm, still dripping arterial gore, and a fierce war-mask held in his off-hand.

The two make eye contact, briefly, before the Samurai sets his mask back on, and falls into fighting stance.

Sulla has no weapon out, and one remaining Pilum. There is another javelin about 2-3 yards away.

The enemy is 10 yards away.

Heaven or Hell?

>>16230330
The blade is much longer, no ?
I know because I looked at the pictures on the wikipedia page for yari, and nothing else...

>>16230388
Hm. 10 yards is too close to get the pilum in the air, I suppose ?

Then raise shield and take out gladius.

>>16230388

LET'S ROCK

Chuck the pilum at him.

>>16230388
Uh oh. This guy's been killing his way through just like Sulla has. That means he's a real threat.
We need to get a sword out and engage this guy like a worthy adversary.

>>16230388
By the way, had he wielded a partisan or a yari or another polearm with a hook-like thing, is there a maneuver to hook our shield away from us ?

>>16230447
This. Nips too damn stupid to understand the use of shields, they deserve to be punished for that. DISREGARD WEEABOOS, ACQUIRE LATIFUNDIA

>>16230460
I believe such a maneuver exists.

We can certainly get off our last pilum, and as this guy lacks a shield it's probably the best bet.

>>16230437
With a good Reflex roll, Sulla might be able to get the Pilum out and whip it at the guy before he can close the distance, but it'd be a pretty poor shot. Proficiency only, maybe with a few penalties for movement and rush, etc.

Still doable, the downside would be that if the Samurai gets in, Sulla is going to have to spend a turn pulling his sword out. A scary place to be.

>>16230447
Only if we have a good idea of whether we can throw it before we're in range of his polesword.

>>16230478
Gladius is S, we can Quick Draw it at little to no penalty I think.

>>16230460
Beat would be the best bet, and it's a very, very devastating move when it goes through.

>>16230478

Would it be quicker to throw a dart? IIRC, Legionnaires often carried a few plumbata.

>>16230460
(There is a maneuver that is actually called Hook, though I think it's intention is to trip. I would personally allow it to be used to pull a shield away too, though I'd have to think for a minute about how that would be represented mechanically.)

>>16230478
Let's play it safe. In my idea, a scutum is quite effective against a naginata.

>>16230449
Honour is for chumps.
Sulla is a Roman. He is already more honourable than any number of foreigners.

I suggest that we pilum this horse-less scythian.

Half an hour left on the scans.

>>16230513
THIS GODDAMNIT, HIS ARMOR IS SHEER CLOTH AND WOODEN PLANKS.

no pillum throwing the penalties are too great

>>16230504
My guess (from the fighting in gaul, and that Sulla is wearing lorica hamata rather than segmentata) is that we're only a very recently post Marian Reform legionary. The plumbata hasn't replaced the pilum yet. Heck, both Pilum are probably about the same size, too, instead of the larger and smaller ones that got popular soon after the reforms.

Alright, let's say it'll come down to a Reflex test.

If Sulla can make a Reflex at TN 8, he'll be able to throw that javelin before the Samurai can close with him. The Samurai will get to dodge, but only with his Reflex.

If the Samurai survives this, however, Sulla will have no weapon out for the first exchange.

So: Sulla's Reflex at 8.

Hold on, I'll copypaste Sulla's stats from the last thread.

Legionary Sulla
ST 6 WP 6 Reflex 6
AG 6 Wit 6 Knockout 5
TO 5 MA 4 Knockdown 6
EN 7 Soc 3 Aim 5
HT 7 Per 5 Move 9 (8)
Proficiencies: Sword & Shield 12
Equipment: Short-Sleeved Mail Shirt(AV 4), Pot Helm (AV 5, open faced), Scuttum(-.5 CP, -1 Move), Gladius, 1 Pilum Javelin, Pugio Dagger, Cestus (right hand) (AV 4, bonus punch damage.)
CP: 18 (17 in armor w/ shield)

Don't forget about Dat Cestus. If things go really awry, a halfway decent punch from Sulla's iron right could still kill a man.

rolled 6, 3, 7, 6, 10, 2 = 34

So his reflex is 6. That's 6d10 at difficulty 8 right?

rolled 10, 10, 4, 3, 9, 6 = 42

>>16230557

Sorry, is this to throw it or to see if he can throw it?

>>16230557
Do you rule it as you go, or is there rules precising what can be done as opponents approaches ?

Running 8 metres while bringing down your 2 metres naginata sounds like it would be faster than retrieving a pilum on one's back, taking it right, bringing it back and throwing it.

>>16230577

The 2 options I see
1. Pilum throw, then close drawing the gladius, using our shield to try to get in too close for the naginata to be terribly useful. Maybe a shield bash thrown in.
2. Try staying back and Beat to try to cut the shaft of the naginata.

what happened to the colored dice? Red vs White and what not.

>>16230577
Even if they don't go awry, getting right up in his face could make him regret that polearm.

>>16230645

He has a sidearm in the picture.

>>16230609
Drawing a weapon with haste, and speeding up the readying of throwing is a Difficulty 8 Reflex test.

Now granted, there's no hard and fast ruling on how to handle a guy racing to get a missile weapon out, and another racing to get to melee range.

My justification is that the Samurai hasn't survived this many rounds by going Red/Red. He's expecting this new enemy to attack him, not the other way around, and upon seeing the javelin come out and raise, it's a bit too late to beat it to the punch.

It helps that the Pilum is a very weird looking weapon. It might take a second to even realize that it's a javelin and not some sort of barbarian melee weapon. So his plan as of now is to try and avoid the throw and close the distance, rather than risk getting impaled while charging.

>>16230644 what happened to the colored dice? Red vs White and what not.

We haven't closed with him yet. Once we start trying to kill each other with melee weapons that will come up

>>16230677
Okay, sounds about right. Though waiting for the opponent to get any weapon is surprisingly... honorable. Why not ? Or maybe our right hand was hidden behind the shield.

Hope one success suffices ?

>>16230604
>>16230597
Alright! Sulla doesn't bungle pulling the javelin out.

Now he can only throw the javelin with his basic Prof (10) at 10 yards range.

So, that's -2 from his pool for range, and another -1 for the movement of the target, and let's say a -2 for how fast this is happening.

So, Sulla's got 5 dice at difficulty 6 to try and skewer the Samurai.

The Samurai also has Reflex 7, and will Partial Evade at 7.

So:
Sulla: 5 at 6
Samurai: 7 at 7

Let's go!

>>16230668

No samurai would go to war without his katana and his wakizashi.

It's too bad he doesn't have his bow, though.

>>16230677
So are we gonna throw now, or is he going to get an opposed per roll?

To me this whole Sulla experiment has been a demonstration of how crazy good the shields are in this game.

Without them ranged weapons bone you, and blocking is way more difficult. And the relative power of 2-handed vs 1-handed is not significant enough since 1 powerful hit = you are screwed either way.

rolled 1, 4, 10, 5, 10, 9 = 39

Throwing for Sulla

>>16230718
Aye. Perhaps he fought someone with a spiked targe at one point, and learned not to underestimate someone just because you can't see his weapon.

And really, who could look at this guy with the giant shield and the mail armor, and think him a skirmisher?

rolled 4, 3, 5, 3, 5 = 20

Sulla: 5 at 6

rolled 9, 10, 5, 7, 7, 6, 9 = 53

Samurai: 7 at 7

>>16230728
(He's totally got his daisho, yeah. The bow we left behind in favor of the polearm because Sulla just fought an archer yesterday, and it's more fun to introduce weird polearms to the mix.)

>>16230748
I still think that if he'd fought anybody with a shield to date he'd be stone dead, but that's because I hate samuraiaboos, not that I'm accusing you, Galt.

Oh wow
>>16230761
>>16230753

Samurai says, "What the hell was that!"

Yikes! The Samurai rolled very impressively for his dodge, and ducks out of the way of the pilum!

He then rushes in. Now is the time for Red/Blue, but Sulla doesn't have a weapon out!

What will be done, /tg/?

Evade and draw the Gladius?

>>16230781

Quick Draw, then beat for 10

>>16230770
There are ways around shields, even in this very shield-centric game.
For example, if you have a huge reach advantage, you can basically force the shielding enemy to stay eternally on the defensive and tempt him into overextending.

This was best demonstrated during the Blackpoole vs Eisenhund fight, which I think was our first deathmatch on /tg/.

>>16230781

Courage punch to the face with the cestus!

>>16230781
2CP on drawing the gladius, right ?

We throw white, red against something with a longer reach probably isn't good, even without knowing how it works out.
And we won't use the gladius to block what's incoming anyway.

An amusing point--if Sulla forces the samurai to draw his katana, he's basically won. The samurai has to be at S range to cut effectively thanks to the Draw Cut rules, meaning we can bash and gladius him with impunity and he will have NO response. SHATTER THAT HAFT, DAMMIT.

>>16230797
Beat is awesome, but it involves going offensive... And what if he goes Red too? He's got range and a pretty good reflex. Maybe he'll win the test!

What about Block Open & Strike?

>>16230781
We can dodge, duck, dive and dodge with some of our dice, while drawing our short sword with some of our dice.

If we survive, later we can get inside the range of his magic weeaboo fighting stick with some of our dice, and stab him in the dick with some of our dice.

Never spending all of our dice when we don't know the size of his pool.

White, Draw, Beat, Smile.

>ferric uroperu
Captcha guessing the 10th warrior will have iron weapons and be from Peru?

>>16230819
Let's say 1. It's a short weapon after all, and the Romans wore the gladius specifically so that they could draw it without disrupting their shields by reaching across the chest.


Going White might be the best call, with the enemy's reach and unknown combat pool. Probing the enemy's capabilities is a good idea before you take action. I'll observe a bit more before we decide.

>>16230854

Oh you can't Beat defencively?

>>16230871
No, but Block Open and Strike is similar.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OEC4FO1U

Enjoy your scans. I will sleep soooooon

>>16230833 Beat is awesome, but it involves going offensive... And what if he goes Red too? He's got range and a pretty good reflex. Maybe he'll win the test!

You make a good point, sir. I retract my earlier call for a beat.

>>16230883
>>16230871
Yeah, it's basically the same. But if we go White, then the Samurai has to declare his action before we have to react to it.

That means we get to see what he does, and then make our decision.

Lets not be too aggressive.

>>16230840

I agree, throw white, draw the gladius, and go full defense for the first exchange.

>>16230888
>YES.jpg

Alright, White it is!

The Samurai throws Red, and declares a cut with 15 dice to Sulla's non-shield leg.

What will Sulla's defense be?

hay Galt how would you stat a kusarigama or manriki

IIRC, a beat is only available as the first attack in a combat or after a pause.

>>16230931
Oh jeeze, I've got no idea.

>>16230929
15 dice is a lot from the man with the banana on a stick. We should cower behind our shield with not quite all our dice.

>>16230929

I forget, do we have any leg armor at all? Greaves?

>>16230929
Jesus CHRIST. 12 dice to a block open & strike, maybe? This would cost us 14 total, but if we succeed we get all of our margin as bonus dice next exchange right?

>>16230970
Nay... Just sandals, I guess we weren't high ranking enough.

>>16230929 What will Sulla's defense be?

15 dice? bloody hell. We could take a risk and try to counter it, I guess.

>>16230971
Seconded

>>16230929
Instinctively, I'd say moving that leg would be easier than bringing our shield in the way, but blocking has a lower TN than partial evasion, so let's block. 12 dice.

>>16230822

Samurai are usually trained to fight with a spear or naginata that gets the blade chopped off, so he might just do that. It's where the bo comes from.

>>16230971

That's probably our best bet.

>>16230971
This is a good plan. Sulla's DTN is 5, whereas the Naginata's ATN is 7.

Statistically it is very likely to work, but I recommend we go even further, and devote 15 dice (+2 for the cost) to the Block Open & Strike, so that we can launch a strong attack next exchange with minimal risk.

>>16230971
Do we have to split our dice ?

I like the Block Open & Strike idea, it's a move we don't use enough, let's do that.

Ok!
Sulla's 12 dice at 5
VS
Samurai's 15 dice at 7

rolled 1, 9, 7, 5, 10, 9, 7, 9, 2, 4, 9, 1, 5, 2, 3 = 83

Samurai: 15 at 7

rolled 10, 3, 7, 4, 5, 8, 1, 4, 1, 3, 7, 4, 6, 1, 7 = 71

>>16231019

>>16231017
No, we just spend more this turn than we would before. But because Bo&S is awesome, we then get bonus dice equal to our margin of success, so that none are wasted.

It's basically going extra out of your way to fling the enemy's weapon off of your shield and create an opening for yourself, I guess.

rolled 2, 7, 5, 3, 9, 3, 7, 8, 9, 4, 2, 6 = 65

Fight on, Son of Romulus, fight on!

rolled 7, 7, 8, 8, 1, 8, 7, 6, 9, 9, 1, 7 = 78

>>16231019
Sulla's 12 dice at 5

rolled 2, 9, 9, 3, 9, 9, 8, 10, 1, 10, 6, 6 = 82

>>16231019

>>16231039
FFFFFFUCK

>>16231002

The problem with that is, if we fail and he has enough saved for a basic thrust, we take an unblockable hit next engagement. Even if we succeed, if we only succeed by 1 or 2, it's not enough for an attack next engagement, so he takes initiative and we get a hit we can only throw 1 or 2 dice at blocking.

How the hell do we have a non-shield leg? It's a bloody SCUTUM!

>>16231065
If you do more than match the attacker's successes, you gain the initiative, otherwise I'd agree with you.

As it stands... We've just blocked the attack without taking the initiative at all. Our 2 die cost is wasted, and the Samurai still has the initiative.

...what just happened?

>>16231065
Let's hope he doesn't have much CP left, because it seems we're gonna have to defend with 4 dice.
A full evasion is coming, I fear.

Alright! it looks like Sulla got 7 blocking successes to the Samurai's 7 attack successes.

Sulla successfully blocks, but the Samurai retains the initiative.

He elects to put 2 dice on a cut to the very lowest part of Sulla's shield-leg. Sulla has 3 dice remaining, and regains his full pool at the start of the next Exchange. You just need to survive, brave Roman!

>>16231106
EVADE! EVAAAAAADE!

Seriously, Full Evade. If we can keep doing this he'll never be able to touch us, and he'll mess up long before we will, being a stupid nip.

rolled 4, 7, 9 = 20

>>16231106

Nothin' we can really do but a basic block with 3d

rolled 7, 6 = 13

>>16231106
Samurai 2 dice

rolled 3, 1 = 4

>>16231106
>>16231106
Samurai 2 dice

>>16231125
>>16231124
Normally I'd encourage you to wait before rolling, but this is basically correct.

Sulla successfully defeats the Samurai's attack by 1, meaning that Sulla now has the initiative!

And now the NEW ROUND begins!

Sulla is back up to his full 17 dice! The Samurai is also back to full, but Sulla has the initiative!

What now men?

>>16231122

We can't full evade, we've already done stuff this round.

rolled 6, 4 = 10

full attack red

>look the capcha is insulting sulla

It's very easy to slip your leg below the knee - just pull it back for the briefest of moments and then let it fall down again before you fall over.

Slipping your thigh and knee on the other hand involves turning at the hip, which seriously fucks up balance. It involves lifting your weight onto the other leg and shifting your centre of gravity around.

Most of the time you're better off taking a proper step to void the strike, like a passing step backwards.

And, of course, the standard response is to overrun their attack - the length from your shoulder to their head is less than that from their shoulder to your knee/leg, on account of hypoteneuse and stuff. So if someone goes for a leg shot, your best bet is to slip or step it back while at the same time whacking them on the head.

Regardless of weapon or system.

No idea if that translates into the game...

>>16231162
Ok, so wait, this guy has Long range, right? That means a thrust with our Gladius would cost us 2 dice just to activate it.

It's risky, but I recommend a full thrust with 15+2. If he wants to Buy the initiative... Well. He can have fun with that, and our fuckmassive Willpower.

If he defends with everything he's got, he still might fail, and even if we don't hurt him upon hitting him, suddenly we're at Short range!

>>16231162
Can we try a disarm ? It looks good on paper.

>>16231162

Can we beat, or was >>16230936 correct when he said it's only available as the first attack in a combat?

>>16231256
He was. We'd have to have Full Evaded and forced a pause in the combat to get another chance at that, but apparently that wasn't an available option.

>>16231219
There are some penalties applied to attacking parts of the body that require a lot of reaching and whatnot...
However the Samurai has like, a 8 foot long weapon, and we've got a gladius. I doubt it'll factor in much this time.

>>16231236 It's risky, but I recommend a full thrust with 15+2

We're trying to win the fight, not commit suicide.

>>16231256
>>16231250
In the disarm description, it says that the difference in effect is that a disarm doesn't have to be done after a break in the fight.

To we have to pay penalties for range with disarm ?

>>16231268
The problem with Beat is that we couldn't expect to succeed by much, and... removing the Samurai's naginata from the blocking game doesn't actually make him any easier to hit.

It is exactly as easy to Partial Evade as it is to parry with a naginata.

Actually, how would charging behind the shield and bashing/grappling him with it work out?

>>16231299
It would halve our CP penalty from range.

>>16231303
This. You can't block a shield bash. And it would have the same range penalty as our blade.

>>16231293
>Range Penalties
I don't think it says, but Beat halves all range penalties. I would apply a similar reasoning here, since it's about grabbing the weapon, not the actual enemy.

I'm not sure how one disarms a polearm user with a gladius and a shield, though. Should Sulla drop his shield to try this? Sword & Shield does specify that it can be done with a shield, but at a slightly higher activation cost.

>>16231303
If I was sulla, I'd try to bash the naginata aside with the shield and slide up the shaft.
But I don't know how it could be done in game.

>>16231303
Ahh, I know this.
Shield Bashes cannot be parried, only blocked. Large Shields bash at ATN 7, but we have allowed for the Scuttom (which was designed very specifically for bashing) to do it at 6, like a smaller shield. Damage is St+1.

Range is... Hand. It would be a 3-die activation cost to make it happen, for range, but aside from that it's a normal attack.

>>16231325
Technically, I imagined striking the blade down with the gladius and steppping on it, hoping he doesn't think/get to twist the edge upwards..

>>16231353
Oh snap! And if the Samurai uses a partial evasion, he doesn't claim the initiative unless he spends 2 CP! This means that no matter what Sulla is going to keep the aggressor's stance, which is exactly how a Roman wants it!

>>16231371
Or if, Gods forbid, we botch our attack when he partial evades.

>>16231371
I am a huge fan of any plan that doesn't kill us if we screw it up.

I'm all for it, but not with the full pool. How about 10 dice (plus the activation, leaving 4 in reserve? That way we can still do something if the Samurai somehow avoids our attack and gains the initiative.

>>16231339

Probably bind & strike. Actually, that might be our best bet.

Interesting.

Ok, here's what I'm hearing our most favored options as:

-Bind & Strike
-Shield Bash (maybe with 10 dice, or 14 depending on ambitiousness.)
-Disarm

All are possible. If I were a betting man, I'd go with Shield Bash or the Bind & Strike. Disarm relies too much upon the Samurai's knockdown, which could be a problem.

>>16231325
One wraps ones sword arm around the haft of the polearm, while smacking the Samurai in the face with the shield, then uses ones back muscles to wrench on it, or stab him in the face at the same time. IIRC Talhoffer has the same technique for longsword, messer and lance.

>>16231399
Yeah, it does look good. Can we get half off on range penalties on the binding part too ?

>>16231429

I'd say Bind & Strike is the safest option, but a Shield Bash for 12 is what Sulla would do.

>>16231452
I feel quite sullic when I say I want to make a clean cut on that guy.

>>16231452
That is a powerful X-Factor right there. Sulla is the kind of guy you need to hold tryouts between Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger to see who gets to play him in SULLA XVII: BACK TO BACTRIA.

>>16231517
>X-Factor

>>16231533
Yeah you heard me. It's time for the KILLSHOT.
KILLSHOTKILLSHOTKILLSHOT.

Bind and Strike. I want to sleeep.

Scans all ok?

>>16231551
KILLSHOTS was last season. This season, it's all about the INSTANTKILLS.

Ok ok! Shield Bash it is. Sulla's a madman, but not quite an idiot, so he'll only put 10 dice on it.

The Samurai isn't too clear on what a shield-bash is, having never encountered someone with a shield this size, used in this way, so he will declare a partial evasion with the same number of dice.

So:
Sulla's 10 at 6
Samurai's 10 at 7

Let's do this!

>>16231517
Sulla going through the deserts of the parthian empire, fucking everyone up on his path, mounted archery nonwithstanding, to claim the treasure Alexander left in the karakorum ? Why not.

rolled 9, 3, 3, 9, 9, 4, 2, 2, 4, 2 = 47

oh yeah

>>16231533

I'm opening myself up to some possibly-justifiable ridicule here, but the last few episodes of DW have actually been quite enjoyable. Still utterly ridiculous, of course, but at least they're taking into account stuff besides the weapon (they always analyse a famous battle each of their contestants took part in), and they use the same test for both weapons when comparing them, now. They still fall prey to the "the better weapon is the one that fucks up a pig carcass the most!" fallacy, though.

rolled 1, 9, 10, 6, 1, 4, 2, 3, 1, 8 = 45

@7 to partially evade.

rolled 5, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 5, 1, 4, 2 = 25

>>16231575
Samurai's 10 at 7

>>16231594
oh shame

>>16231569
Better than seeing Halle Berry pregnant with (my) twins, lovingly making me a grilled cheese sandwich with Beyond the Sea playing on the radio, as I approach with her anniversary present, which are the keys to the deathstar.

>>16231595
Nah, it's okay. I like Deadliest Warrior too, I just am FULLY aware that there is virtually no real accuracy in it. I'm strictly there for the cleaved pig carcasses and shit blowing up. Also that sexy, SEXY espada ropera from the Cortez episode.

>>16231602
Aw shit, 3 and 3. What happened? Did the Samurai pay CP to steal init off this?

Are we at our ideal range?

If so, follow up with a dickstab: samurai never wore codpieces, the poor fools.

>preview scans

Damn, shit's huge.

>>16231594

NO MORE ROLLING FOR YOU

>>16231671
Ironically if we hit we'd be at one range too CLOSE for optimum gladius usage.

Fucking Cap'Cha.

Alright, Sulla is narrowly avoided by the Samurai, who spends the 2 CP to buy the initiative. However, the high costs for dodging in armor have hurt him.

He can only afford to throw a 5 die attack to Sulla's head, and this is reaching into reserves he had hoped to keep hidden until a crucial moment!

5 at 7. Sulla has 4 dice remaining. What can be done?

I am reading the scans and I found the maneuver Stop Short -> it's a contest where our TN is the other guys Per but his TN is equal to the number of dice. and we reduce his Combat pool as a result.

Might be good move for next round if we throw lots of dice into it?

>>16231671
Except for that fauld thing, which reminds me: Any penalty for dick stabbing from below the armour?

>>16231698

Not much for it but another standard block.

rolled 1, 4, 5, 9, 8, 1, 7 = 35

This a cut or thrust?

>>16231718
Yep. Block with the shield and pray.

rolled 7, 1, 8, 6 = 22

>>16231698
>>16231698
Block.

>>16231732

Oops, sorry that was seven dice.

rolled 7, 6, 3, 9, 2 = 27

>>16231698
>>16231575
Samurai's 5 at 7

rolled 9, 4, 10, 5, 3 = 31

5 at 7

>>16231718
This man speaks the truth.
Sulla gets 4 at 5
Samurai gets 5 at 7.

Let's hope things go better this time!

>>16231743
>>16231732
Good god, what is it with us and matching 3 sux for 3 sux with this guy.

>>16231756
Never mind, we finally got a clean block.

OK, disregarding that first bad roll (or just leaving off the extra two rolls, it works out the same), that's 2 hits for the samurai and 3 for Sulla.

Looks like we steal initiative!

So who has the initiative?

>>16231788
Sulla, I *think*.

>>16231769
This shield does its job quite well.

I wonder how we'd fare if we tracked the damage done to it.

>>16231743
>>16231751
Alright, it's looking liiiike Sulla got 3 successes to the Samurai's 2!
Sulla blocks the slash, and takes back the initiative.

NEW ROUND

Sulla's got the init again. The Samurai vexatiously avoided his bash, but couldn't capitalize on the counterattack. That bodes well.

>>16231707

Can we try my stop short idea?

>>16231804
Sure, if you'd like to.

>>16231804

I mean it consists of Leaping AND Stomping, right?

>>16231804

Stop Short is a pretty cool maneuver, but I don't think it will help us much here. It basically can't cost him too many dice more than it costs us.
We're just lowering both of our pools, and we need pool in order to murderize this thug.

I hate to say it, but there's not much for us to do until we're at high range, except keep bashing and trying to get up his ass.

14 dice on the bash would force him to either commit everything, or close to it, and still won't guarantee his safety.

BTW, we have now basically confirmed that the Samurai's CP is 19.

>>16231804
Sulla stopping short when he did all that journey from the end of that naginata ?
I vote for bind&strike.

SULLA ATTEMPT DIPLOMACY

>>16231804

Isay we try it. If nothing else, it'll tell us the Samurai's Per.

>>16231835
Wait a sec. Sulla's Willpower is really good, and the Samurai has a helmet with a mask, meaning he gets -2 Perception.

That means that we're probably rolling at difficulty 2 or 3, whereas if we spend 3 dice on it, the Samurai is rolling at a flat difficulty 10.

I retract my statement, YES. We should do Stop Short. We could easily cost this guy 4 or 5 dice, while only spending 3 ourselves, and retaining the initiative.

>>16231835

Oh I think I misunderstood.

I thought that he spends dice equal to his Reflex and we spend some dice X, and for any we beat him by, he looses even more.

But I guess you are saying that he does not spend the initial ammount equal to his Reflex, right?

>>16231849
Seconded

>>16231849
There's the beauty of it, SS lets us keep the initiative.
Think about it. Fake one way, then rush in and grab the guy's spear, to slide along and stab him in the teeth. The imagery is perfect.

>>16231879
Yeah, it's a bit different, but you're still right, we should do it!

John, We support Stop Short, followed by a Bind & Strike! We'll fake his ass out and then take him down once we've depleted his pool a bit.

>>16231901
Not the teeth, too much risk of getting deflected by his ho-ate. The groin. Normally I'm against nutshots for the sake of lols but I think it really IS the weak spot in the guy's armor.

>>16231901

Hmm, I am a RoS noob so I want to see SS just to figure out how it all works, and we can bind and strike in the second exchange.

>>16231912
>>16231920
Christ alive. Alright, Stop Short. My favorite maneuver. Let's see...
So, the Samurai's Perception is 4, -2 as someone observed, so the difficulty for Sulla is 2.

Bloody 2. Sulla's WP of 6 against 2.
The Samurai rolls his Reflex of 7 against difficulty 10.

SO:
Sulla: 6 at 2
Samurai: 7 at 10.

Let's Rock!

rolled 8, 3, 4, 7, 2, 5 = 29

I swear to god, if we screw this up...

>>16231920
The shoulders look more exposed.

rolled 3, 6, 7, 3, 2, 1 = 22

>>16231950
And the margin is how many dice the samurai loses from his pool? Sweeeeet.

rolled 5, 2, 3, 9, 1, 4, 3 = 27

Go go 7 at 10

rolled 10, 9, 6, 1, 7, 9, 10 = 52

And now the sammy.

rolled 8, 1, 7, 6, 2, 8, 5 = 37

@10

rolled 3, 8, 2, 3, 1, 6, 3 = 26

>>16231698
>>16231575
Samurai's 7 at 10

rolled 10, 7, 10, 4, 2, 1, 3 = 37

>>16231962
The sode will stop most shoulder hits.

ninja faggots

YIKES. That almost went crazy both ways!

Alright, Sulla gets 6, Mr. Hikiji gets 0.

Sulla has spent 3 dice, and costs The Samurai 6! He also keeps the initiative.

>>16231979
Very nice. Now we bind and strike, or try to at least. Dice gods have been kind to us so far, we lose their favor it's all over for us!

rolled 8, 9, 10, 5, 7, 5, 9 = 53

>>16231968
>>16231955

so six to ZERO?

Booyah!

Alas, poor samurai.

I was hoping Sulla would have a challenge for once.

>>16231979

I vote for throwing everything we have left into a furious dickstab

>>16231979
14 dice to a bind and strike. The TN is 5 for God's sake, we're going to kick this guy's ass.

>>16231998
He's lasted longer than anything else, and still might not be down for the count yet. Don't get cocky, Rome didn't crush its foes by being cocky.

>>16232011

Seconded.

>>16231979
Ok, then bind now with all CP we're left with and we will strike next time with full CP ?

We're autosaging, btw. New thread after this fight, or during if the samurai somehow escapes?

>>16232026
Sounds like a plan!

Sulla throws down 14 dice at 5
The Samurai panics, and throws down 10 at 7 to try and avoid!

Sulla: 14 at 5
Samurai: 10 at 7

>>16232011
>>16231999
19-6=13
Against our 14. That guy doesn't have a shield, right, but we still haven't won.

>>16232016

Granted out Gladius is set to become an Item of Power with the Spiritual Atribute of Drive: Dickstabing.

rolled 9, 8, 4, 1, 5, 3, 2, 5, 6, 1, 10, 1, 4, 9 = 68

Let's see.

>>16232059
Akodo disapproves. Samurai should have stayed calm and executed a Full Evade with his remaining pool.

rolled 9, 2, 5, 10, 10, 8, 1, 7, 10, 6 = 68

10 at 7

>>16232059
Interesting... Why isn't the Samurai devoting all 13 dice into a parry? Does he expect us to try something clever if he devotes everything?

>>16232085
Panic response. A shamefurr dispray.

>>16232077
Oops. I meant to throw 10 dice. Sorry.

ONE

SUX

>>16232085
Range?

rolled 1, 9, 3, 8, 8, 7, 5, 8, 5, 8, 1, 1, 4, 2 = 70

One for SENATVS.

rolled 9, 4, 7, 5, 4, 9, 3, 6, 2, 5, 3, 3, 4, 2 = 66

>>16232100
Bring it ON!

rolled 4, 3, 10, 7, 5, 3, 10, 9, 4, 9, 6, 5, 2, 5 = 82

THIS is Sulla's roll

Huh, 6 to 8. Not as wide a margin as I was expecting, but it serves our purposes well enough.

>>16232141
Aye, that indeed.

NEW ROUND

Sulla is at full, and now he knows that he's weakened the Samurai by... Some amount, at least. The time to strike is now!

What will be done!?

I think the rules say that we only bring it in to our range on a damaging strike, but on the other hand, common sense.

If we are at our ideal range, that would indeed mean a -3 to his defense (as long weapons take the penalty to def as well as off)

>>16232188
For lack of knowledge on my part, I'll default to you. We're now at... Shield range? That's Hand.

Alright, so at Hand range, what will Sulla do? The easiest answer is to Shield Bash this guy.

>>16232183
I'd say thrust with all 17, at the most inviting gap in the armor. We have to pay the 2CP we gained from the bind, right ?

>>16232188
*-3 if we're at hand range, I don't even care any more.

Does that count as a successful attack for the purposes of range?

If so; we have a damn nice advantage over him, and should go for a cut at 10, that we then turn into a feinted cut at the dick if he offers a measly defence.

Since we're going crazy with the maneuvres, how about a http://tros.thewestwinds.net/index.php?title=Double_Attack ?

>>16232211
I want to drop the gladius and punch him very hard in the face.

>>16232260
Which might be a better option than the gladius. It's an S weapon, our cestus is H, we are at H range.

>>16232260

No. He has a mask remember?

Does this count as a pause in combat? Can we do a beat now?

>>16232275
It's a samurai, his armor can't be any better than AV 3 hardened leather at best. The shit's made out of wood!

>>16232260
>>16232233
I like it. The Cestus needs a workout, and it is Hand range!

And... Punches have ATN 5.

So, Sulla can throw down 17 at 5.
The Samurai, on the other hand, can throw 12 at 4 for a Full Evasion.

I like it, let's do it!

>>16232275
Sulla has brass knuckles. Even if it's a plate mask, he's got reasonable odds of breaking the guy's face behind it.

rolled 9, 6, 1, 2, 2, 9, 5, 10, 6, 1, 9, 1 = 61

12 at 4

>>16232275
And we have a cestus. Even if we don't smash his face in, he'll be knocked out.

>>16232303
And bludgeoning damage to the head is pretty sweet.

rolled 6, 8, 5, 7, 8, 3, 4, 7, 6, 6, 7, 8, 5, 7, 6, 9, 10 = 112

>>16232289
AND ONE FOR POPVLVS.

>>16232325
And Sulla's prayers to the dice gods pay off once again!

15 to 7 OUCH

Cool, now we get to see how strong samurai armor really is.

>>16232355
Not gonna stop that blow unless it's top-tier and this guy has a strong toughness mod.

rolled 1, 7, 4, 1, 10, 6, 4, 1, 1, 8, 8, 7, 1, 3, 1, 3, 2 = 68

>>16232325
At this point, it's interesting to note that Sulla's cestus has SPQR embossed on it.

>>16232355
The face-mask is a sheet of iron.
Just a sheet of iron in this case.

rolled 2 = 2

Mother of God.
...Ok. Margin of 8. Sulla's Strength of 6... Str 14.

If this hits the upper head, its a total armor of 9.
If it hits the face, it's armor 8.
If it hits the neck, it's total armor 7.

This is a really bad time to be this particular Samurai.

>>16232393

In da face!

>>16232393
And this is something I love about Riddle of Steel (BOOM HEADSHOT)--one lucky dice roll, and you can overcome that shield. You can overcome that ridiculously huge polearm. You can overcome that harnischfechter. NOTHING is truly invinicible against everything.

SULLA! SULLA! SULLA!

>>16232393
Nice. If this had failed, I would've had the Samurai ditch the naginata and whip out...his wakizashi. Yes, the short sword. He was at range H, and H is the range a wakizashi draw cuts at.

>>16232406
Actually, we overcame the polearm because we weren't clear on the rules. Maybe we should have paid a few dice for it.

>>16232406

What pray tell is a Harnischfechter?

Mother of God.

Sulla punches through the mask. He punches through flesh, bone, brain, bone, and flesh again.

He prints SPRQ neatly onto the inside of the back neck-guard of the Kabuto.

>"Death. Destruction of the cerebellum. Really messy."

Sulla wasn't quite sure before.
Now he is.
Now he really, really is.
His fist is the meaning of life.

This world was made for him. The gods created the universe-SPECIFICALLY so that he could kick ass in it.

And he is nothing if not the gods' man.

>>16232430
Armored fighter--as in, the German art of fighting in plate armor, usually with a longsword.

>>16232393
What is the bonus to punbhes with a cestus ?

>>16232430
"Harness-Fighter."
Means a guy in a plate harness, basically. The Germans divided it up between Blossfechten "naked fencing" (sorry if I'm mispelling this) and Harneschfecten.

>>16232432

Whait what about toughness? Or was that included in the 8 "total" armor?

Immediately retrieve gladius and ready that pilum for our next opponent.

>>16232432
I am currently in the process of giggling like a little girl.

>>16232451
I strongly doubt that mask was AV 8. Toughness must have been included to get the numbers that high.

>>16232451
The Samurai had 4 TO, and armor varying from 3-5 on his head, which combined into 7 on the neck, 8 on the face, and 9 on the head.

The simple force with which he just hit that guy really does defy reason, though. It's basically impossible.

Not that that seems to particularly dissuade Sulla.

>>16232432
This man needs theme music.

Contemplating new thread.

I suddenly feel like we could actually get to the end of those 10 fights alive.

>>16232490
Silence. The dice gods frown on overconfidence.

Just to make sure I understood this: we knocked his polearm aside with our shield, deliberately dropped our sword and PUNCHED HIM SO HARD HIS HEAD EXPLODED!?

Holy. Fuck.

Are we sure Sulla isn't Mars in disguise?

>>16232489
I'm going to sleep, but I'll check it out on sup/tg/.
Time to archive this one by the way.

>>16232489

Are you sure that Deamon-Spiders won't spawn from your computer if we continue?

The night is young, I say new thread.

>>16232514
I think we'll be fine. We're on the home stretch here, maybe we can squeeze one more in. Worst case scenario, I can set the stage and get a new thread going.

Makin' now.

>>16232419
>>16232406
You're both wrong. It wasn't luck, and it wasn't cheese. He was fighting with a weapon that absolutely required that he keep us at range, and he couldn't see for shit. It was his weakness and we exploited it by charging in past his polearm where he couldn't see us very well and doing something unexpected to throw him off balance.

>>16232509
No. Maybe we're just the descendant of an amazon raped by achilles at Troy. Mars is Mars.

But we fully expect to have both an heroic and divine cult in our name after our death.

>>16232548
Yeah but it's still not really physically possible to do that much damage in a single fist blow even with a cestus, and the extra damage was provided by the fortunate blessing from the dice gods.

So in other words shut fucking mouth and pay your respects, because hubris is what brought the Empire crashing down.

>>16232544
Oh shit, I was gonna suggest for somebody other than John to create the thread, so it doesn't 'accidentally' get deleted.

>>16232569
I read once that trained romans were much stronger than today's athletes.
I'd like to think Sulla did that with his own strength.

>>16232483

In recognition of his deeds, Japan gifts him this theme song;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ8egaXNlZg

Ok, I've thought of something. Cinematicfags feel free to disregard this, but for people who want to believe that this game is still hardcore simulationist, remember the margin of success indicates how well Sulla's punch succeeded *against* Sami's evasion - his ST6 punch wouldn't have hurt thru the mask, but a cestus hitting a metal plate would have created a massive crash from the samurai's point of view. His polearm was already in an awkward position from the bind, and you could say he was thrown off balance mid-leap, fell and cracked his face open on a rock or Sulla's knee or something.

Is there a new thread?