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    459 KB rough setting idea Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)15:23 No.14777527  
    on a generic fantasy world, humans slowly developed widespread psionic ability and eventually its use took precedence. Human civilization grew to eclipse all others, and the gods of the other races decided one by one to direct their followers away to safety in secret places, other worlds or planes of existence, or a final desperate but futile battle against man.

    It was during this period that several deities realized they were growing weaker. the psionic philosophy of power from within meant a growing disinterest in prostrating oneself to a distant deity.

    Worse still was one gods’ discovery that psionic power was, if not very closely linked to, the very energy drawn from the mortal devotion that sustained them. The greatest psionic workings were even draining away the prayer-energy of their remaining clergy. The metaphysical leeching might one day reach all the way to the outer planes, resulting in deicide – while simultaneously granting the humans apotheosis.

    Several gods began planning together on how to prevent this...
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)15:39 No.14777701
    This gathering was lead primarily by the gods of nature, who saw human ascension as the worst possible violation of the natural order. Gods rule, mortals serve.

    The conspirators reached out to the gods of the enslaved savage races, making deals and promises in exchange for aid. Many of the human gods disagreed with the course their deliberations were taking, and they were the first victims of the conflict - dissenting divine voices, mainly those who portfolios regarded the fruits of civilization and intellectual pursuits were silenced – slain and cannibalized by the others to restore flagging divine might.

    The usurper gods struck before mortal clerics could understand why their patrons had gone silent. The battle was quick and brutal, shattering a continent beneath the outpouring of psionic and divine energies, but the gods prevailed in the end. They were left with a problem, however – they needed worship to live, but how to prevent humans from developing these powers once again?

    The nature-gods that lead the conflict had a solution, and once again turned upon any dissenters. Humans were fundamentally altered in body and mind, mixed with the flesh and thoughts of animals. Their minds so crippled, it was believed they would never again possess psionic power.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)15:56 No.14777876
    Gods of civilization and its works lie dead. Many others were slain and their portfolios granted to the favored servants of the ruling nature-deities. Entire generations of beast-people have lived and died feral, having only enough of a mind to fear and praise the unknowable forces of nature, reduced to prayer-food for the usurper-gods. Wizardry is forgotten, sorcery barely understood, and secret orders of druids and rangers are tasked to hunt the walking nightmares created during the great conflict, destroy any remaining (or developing) traces of ‘civilization’ and kill those few beast-people who develop “unnatural” (psionic) powers.

    But far away at the former seat of the human empire, a vast crater containing a maelstrom of mental energies calls to beasts in their dreams. Those that heed the call, who avoid the god’s hunters, the creatures from beyond space, and keep their sanity throughout the journey will begin to unlock hidden power within themselves. The demihuman gods have returned to gaze in horror at was was wrought, and they scheme against the power-bloated usurpers and the monstrous deities that are allied with them. The last act of many servants to dead gods was to safeguard what was left of their teachings, laying the groundwork for a few beastmen to stumble upon ruins and hidden places, to relearn the arts of metal and machinery, of words and building cities.

    Despite all that has happened, Humanity struggles to reassert itself.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)16:00 No.14777909
    I love this.

    In B4 'furry'.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)16:04 No.14777942
    Sooo, psionics as weaponized Humanism?

    It's an interesting idea.
    >> Tollymain !!ze5GOtMjMiN 05/01/11(Sun)16:47 No.14778379
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    Interesting... how organized are these small pockets of beastmen who've stumbled upon the remnants of humanity? Single people, small groups, villages?
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)17:06 No.14778532
    This is SO. GOOD.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)17:07 No.14778541
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    I picture them as anything from a solitary wanderer to a semi-nomadic tribe. Finding something as simple as a steel weapon gives a beastman a big advantage, and most stockpiles have psionic 'traps' designed to make a critter start thinking for perhaps the first time in his life.

    Knowledge of various crafts can launch a pack/herd/flock past the stone age and into learning and complex tool-use, giving them a longer life expectancy and an advantage over feral, hunter-gatherer tribes. But it's not far past that level of growth until the city-smashers and word-burners take notice, kill anyone that looks too smart, and scatter the rest. So only the isolated, protected or very careful will advance past this stage.
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 05/01/11(Sun)17:14 No.14778615
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    I've tinkered with the idea of prayer-power in the past, but not quite like this. I like it a lot!

    Nice way to keep min-maxing and power-creep to a minimum.
    >> Tollymain !!ze5GOtMjMiN 05/01/11(Sun)19:28 No.14779973
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    Sounds interesting. How "human" is the average beastman? Are they actually based on existing species, or are they just somewhat bestial? Are there differing breeds/races?
    >> Tollymain !!ze5GOtMjMiN 05/01/11(Sun)20:38 No.14780739
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    Bumping this because it's genuinely interesting.
    >> Russ 05/01/11(Sun)21:01 No.14781026
    This is pretty cool.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)21:15 No.14781181
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    what sort of beastmen are we talking here?
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)21:16 No.14781193
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)21:21 No.14781263
    Bumping for interest.
    >> Tollymain !!ze5GOtMjMiN 05/01/11(Sun)21:26 No.14781322
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    So, where would players fit in? This may actually fit well with another setting I came up with a while back, and scarily well at that.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)21:33 No.14781433
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    I imagine some sort of human lich, master of a forgotten city being an awesome NPC.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)21:36 No.14781470
    >humans get turned into furries in cataclysm
    >blah blah old rehashed furfag plot
    Sigh. I can think of at least six identical backstories to furry systems.
    >> Tollymain !!ze5GOtMjMiN 05/01/11(Sun)21:43 No.14781579
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    I think the point is that the status quo is supposed to be A BAD THING and that HUMANITY IS AWESOME.
    Just my personal opinion, of course.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)21:45 No.14781605
    Lacrimate increasingly vigorously, anonymous anthropocentric cynic!
    >> Greyheart 05/01/11(Sun)21:47 No.14781632
    This is interesting, I might use it myself one day if I remember it. The idea of "nature" being the oppressor while "civilization" is the revolutionary is kind of a unique twist.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)22:21 No.14782085
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    think your average anthro, that's how much 'human' is left in the different breeds, of which there are many.


    The nature god that now serves as the overgod of the pantheon has become something like a megalomaniacal dictator and a hypocrite. He has strict rules, and will not hesitate to kill any number of people, servants or gods that might threaten the world he has created.

    Of course, as nature moves in cycles, the impending death of the gods was meant to happen in a way, just as the ascended humans' creations would have one day grown to supplant them. Instead, he screwed over the world to keep the power and position he was used to instead of heeding his own lessons.

    as a result, the divine order is in shambles, run by newly-elected toadies and incompetents. Deals were struck with fiends and monstrous races that will have unforeseen repercussions, and thanks to the massive destruction of epic-level psionic workings, the madness of the Far Realm...isn't quite so far away anymore.


    The main task of the players is, hopefully, to fix things. To realize what was lost, get it back, even if it means marching into heaven, sending the usurpers to their grave, and either reviving the lost gods or assuming divine positions themselves to set things back on course.
    >> Greyheart 05/01/11(Sun)22:40 No.14782312
    "Here us, young mouseling, we who tasted the ambrosia of divine power and were struck down by those who feared our evolution. You who are, in a way, our inheritor- our heir- the one who shall bring truth and wisdom's return to this world. If you will take up the mantle of a quest against the Green-Gods themselves, then we shall devote all we once were, and what we remain as, to you and your allies. Fight on, little mouseling: civilization, and the balance of the Planes themselves, are in your hands."

    Hope you don't mind, inspiration took hold.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)23:02 No.14782619
    Eh, from what I've read, it's more like humans get turned into cthulhu and animals get turned into furries.

    Anyways, I'd recomend looking into Irish mythology for help with story ideas. It also had a heavy nature=evil, progress=good bent. Don't listen to neo-pagans.
    >> Greyheart 05/01/11(Sun)23:04 No.14782636

    ...English major -here- .....
    >> Anonymous 05/01/11(Sun)23:07 No.14782659
    Welcome to the oldest mythologies ever. Aesirs killing Trolls, Asuras and Devas, etc.
    >> Russ 05/01/11(Sun)23:43 No.14782913
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    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)00:23 No.14783124
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    since people seem interested, can I get some help with the current state of the pantheon? Later, if people are still around, I'd like to talk about the groups of knowledge-preservers and -destroyers.

    So far, I've got the Green Tyrant himself, that I'm starting to see as a leafy kim jong-il. Secondly a motherly deity that may be an old god in a new role, who's role and personality I can't quite decide on. Also a giant, rabid, misshapen beast that is the patron of berserkers, and one of the old gods of death, now also associated with insects because of their role in disease and decay.

    I also imagine some gods are much more popular with certain breeds. The conflicts between them leads back to the gods, and divine squabbles are often forced back on their worshipers, leading to escalating battles between the breeds that each god uses as pawns in their schemes and plots to gain the Tyrant's favor.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)00:26 No.14783154
    You could use the standard herbivore vs. carnivore thing. Of course, there's the hooved animals versus non-hooved ones.
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    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)00:43 No.14783260
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    I'm apparently a total and irredeemable faggot because when I heard talk of the Gods striking down humans and turning them to beasts.. I thought of My Little Pony. God-Empress Celestia killed and banished the other Gods and turned mankind into ponies, then forced them to worship her.
    >> Greyheart 05/02/11(Mon)00:44 No.14783264
    This might work nicely, as it fits into the overarching nature theme. Maybe also sub-pantheons for land, water, and flying creatures?
    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)00:55 No.14783324
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    is that...that can't be the actual backstory of MLP, can it?

    ...I suppose there could be a pleasant little corner of the world, where beasts of all sorts gather and frolic without a care...until something happens to disrupt the illusion of tranquility, and then the lady fluttershine you've been flirting with is filled with the warp-spasm and the soldiers of the goddess tear apart the offender and anyone that stops smiling or dancing as the blood flows and the limbs fly...
    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)01:00 No.14783359
    It's not the actual story from the show, but there isn't one. As far as facetious grimdark fanwankery goes, it's a possible one when you notice all of the human stuff, made for humans, being used by ponies.
    >> Russ 05/02/11(Mon)01:17 No.14783500
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    >> Russ 05/02/11(Mon)03:29 No.14784396
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    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)09:41 No.14786727
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    What happens next?
    >> Slaanesh's Lap Dog 05/02/11(Mon)10:09 No.14786911
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    I find OP's idea interesting, but there are a few nagging points that have always bothered me in most settings. The first is that gods are portrayed as individuals with very human-like personalities. The second is how pantheons seem to have a god for just about every silly concept one can think of. The third is the whole portfolio/worship thing, which almost invariably ends up stripping gods of their divinity (in a metaphysical/sacred sense) and reducing them to bloated overpowered "people". I am a bit tired of seeing that kind of god. What happened to the mystery, incomprehensibility and solemnity of divinity?

    tl;dr: Interesting idea, but uses the same underlying assumptions as nearly all other campaign settings. Also, a bit too "black-and-white" for my liking. Definitely has potential, though.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)10:10 No.14786920
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    still here? wow. Well, I don't really have anything more for this right now, so...anthro pic dump? Haven't seen one of those in a while.
    >> MR. RAGE !D9l9S8Lio6 05/02/11(Mon)10:12 No.14786936
    >What happened to the mystery, incomprehensibility and solemnity of divinity?



    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)10:14 No.14786944
    >Nice way to keep min-maxing and power-creep to a minimum.
    Full fucking retard from a tripfag, how utterly new.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)10:18 No.14786965
    Original Old testament 'God' was a crazy fucker who did whatever he wanted, whenever he felt like it. Burned cities to the ground, turned people into pillars of salt.. etc etc etc..

    Then they freshened him up in the new book and made him the all knowing, quiet, "I have a grand plan" God who works in mysterious ways.

    Most early deity pantheons were full of very human characters with inhuman powers.
    >> Laughing God 05/02/11(Mon)10:25 No.14787011
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    >I am a bit tired of seeing that kind of god. What happened to the mystery, incomprehensibility and solemnity of divinity?
    >I am a bit tired of seeing that kind of god.
    >of seeing that kind of god.

    And then tripfag and anon proceeds to point out there is a fucking hugeload of mentions of that kindof god.
    >> MR. RAGE !D9l9S8Lio6 05/02/11(Mon)10:28 No.14787023


    >What happened to


    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)10:37 No.14787072
    >using greentext implications to devalue one point of argument for another

    >What happened to the mystery, incomprehensibility and solemnity of divinity?
    It was never there. It's a recent construct and a bad one at that.
    >> Slaanesh's Lap Dog 05/02/11(Mon)10:52 No.14787124
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    And are you incapable of breaking up with preconceived ideas?

    You mean, in your opinion.

    But seriously now, I have made what little contribution I could. There is no point in staying here any longer entertaining obvious answers.

    Good luck, OP.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/11(Mon)15:12 No.14789550
    What about the Egyptian gods or the Chinese gods? Also, at the risk of sounding weaboo, what about the Japanese kami? Weren't they more like strange spiritual beings and less like people?

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