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    32 KB Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:40 No.14475678  
    So /tg/, as part of my community service, I am volunteering down at the old folks home (senior center)

    I am in charge of supervising "Games Day"

    What follows is a true account of how I am running a 4e D&D campaign for geriatric people who are almost 4 times my age.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:42 No.14475692
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    You have my attention, OP.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:45 No.14475719
    So the very first thing I do is familiarize everybody with the dice. Already I get one old man who is a real cranky fuck, and tells us all that "dragons and dungeons, too old for this silliness" Well, too bad. However, I do have four old-timers who seem interested. Eddie, who seems to be the resident ladies man, Kirk - who has great war stories, BTW, Marlene (the only woman) and Herbert. Not Herb, Herbert. Seems Jewish.

    After a brief introduction as to what an RPG is, and how you play, we're off to character sheets.
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    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:46 No.14475736
    Bump, come on op.
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    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:49 No.14475762
    ...You're bumping after one minute? Dude.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:50 No.14475769
    I decided the best route was to do pre-gen characters, and use Essentials stuff. Now we had to decide who got to be what. Fighter, Cleric, Wizard, and Rogue. Pretty basic, classic D&D party.

    Now I pretty much had to just tell everybody what they were going to be, since Herb was the only one who seemed sharp enough to pick up on all the stats and math. After a half an hour explaining stats, class, and what the whole point was, I settled on making Herb the wizard, Kirk was the fighter (he was in Korea or something) Marlene was the Cleric, since she didn't like being the "thief" and Eddie wound up being the rogue.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:50 No.14475770
    OP, write the whole story out before you make a thread.
    >> Dantalaeon !!2TQS185pmIh 04/04/11(Mon)20:50 No.14475780
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    ... Continue.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:52 No.14475795
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    >she didn't like being the "thief"
    That Marlene's a damn square, bringing everyone down.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:53 No.14475821
    Anons everywhere apparently need to grow some patience.

    You're a pretty cool guy OP, carry on at your leisure.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:54 No.14475825
    Shut it Betty, its story time.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:55 No.14475830
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    If you seriously want to connect to old people, run a fucking Western.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:56 No.14475842
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    postin' a picture I like, because this is a thread I like.

    Wizards get all the bitches.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:56 No.14475843

    Oh OK, I'll do that just to satisfy your impatience. Fuck off.


    Now I wanted to keep things fairly simple and kind of play it by ear. I had the pre-gen stuff that came with Essentials and the red box, but that seemed pretty boring. So I decided to free-from it.

    The adventure began with the characters meeting up after a long journey in a tavern (yeah, I know real original - but to these folks, they didn't care much) After another half hour bathroom break by two players, I was wondering if this was going to work after all.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)20:58 No.14475864
    Implying I would want to play a western to connect to young people
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:01 No.14475902

    So Herb had pretty much become the de facto leader of the group, and decided that we were going to go along with my weak story, that kobolds were raiding trade caravans outside town, and the local guards were running out of patrols. They requested out help.

    "What's a kobold" asked Eddie.
    It's like a mean lizardman, kind of like...a snippy dog crossed with a lizard.
    "When I lived in Arizona, you would wake up in the morning and lizards were in your shoes. Damn lizards"
    OK, so Marlene, what does your character do?
    "My character?"
    "Yes, Alisandra, the cleric of Pelor."
    "Such a pretty name."
    "Yes, that's your character's name."
    "No, Alisandra"

    After about 15 minutes more of this, I was thinking of going with Scrabble. But I perservered, and I was actually kind of glad I did.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:01 No.14475905
    How do I acquire a Trans Am in DnD?
    >> Frosted Weasel !!dLUhj2yYgMt 04/04/11(Mon)21:03 No.14475914
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    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:04 No.14475927
    rabbit = rogue
    hamster = wizard
    cat = fighter
    dog = cleric

    >> Frosted Weasel !!dLUhj2yYgMt 04/04/11(Mon)21:05 No.14475932
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    Hey, OP. No matter how this turns out, you did a good thing with trying to help these people socialize and such. And good luck with the next one, as well.

    And when you mentioned old folks, I immediately thought of pic related.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:05 No.14475940
    That's fucking stupid. It's obviously
    Dog: Fighter
    Cat: Wizard
    Hamster: Rogue
    Rabbit: Cleric
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:05 No.14475941
    level 20 wizard/favored soul of baccob with an int of at least 90 and wish spells lots and lots of wish spells
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:06 No.14475947
    You seem to have made an error; allow me to rectify it.
    >hamster = barbarian

    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:06 No.14475950

    Why do old people do this?

    I can't believe that it's ACTUALLY senility. Surely they must get some kick out of durping around so much..
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:06 No.14475952
    thats exactly what i thought
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:07 No.14475957
    Unfortunately at this point Herbert shat his pants, but we resumed the next day.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:07 No.14475958

    So as we kept going, they actually started to do some decent roleplay, once I explained that the game was like a play, that we were making up as we went.

    I told Marlene she was like a magical doctor, which she understood, more or less. Herb was already working out his damage probabilities, he told me later he used to work for IBM. Eddie was kind of bored, and Kirk was glad to be doing anything. So I threw this out there for Eddie's sake.

    "There appears to be a young half-elf maiden near the road, she has been bound with crude looking rope."
    "A young maiden - what color is her hair?" Eddie perked up.
    "Redheads - wild ones! wild ones! "
    "Uhh, yeah. She looks frightened"
    "Oh well, I go help her."
    "Are you sure, it might be a trap."
    Eddie gave me that creepy old guy scowl, so I let it drop. Eddie snuck up to the half-elf girl.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:08 No.14475968
    artificer, a lot of gold, and a time portal
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:09 No.14475975
    what are you an imbecile? Over 90% of dogs are wizards. Are you going to tell me this one isn't?


    The party is clearly:
    Dog = Wizard
    Cat = Rogue
    Hamster = cleric
    Rabbit = Fighter
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:09 No.14475976

    Oh god-dammit Edie, don't be THAT GUY.
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    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:09 No.14475983
    if this thread shifts into ERP, I'm leaving /tg/ forever
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:10 No.14475986
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    When I think of old people playing D&D, I keep thinking of war veterans having Nam flashbacks and wigging out while they play, shit hitting the fan, old people flipping the fuck out.

    Old people are great.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:11 No.14475998
    OP delete this thread, type the shit out first then post, your thread will be 404'd before anything interesting happens, you fail at chans.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:11 No.14476001
    >Herb was already working out his damage probabilities, he told me later he used to work for IBM.
    I like this guy...
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:12 No.14476013
    wow fucking retards up in this bitch

    cat=rogue sneaky fuckers
    dogs=fighters strong and loyal
    hamster=bard cute but generally useless
    rabbit=THAT GUY Wizard
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:12 No.14476014
    Shut up, I'm enjoying it.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:13 No.14476018
    Dogs are fucking stupid. Trust me, I own two and I've met leaps and hurdles of them. Cats are smart.

    Hamsters are small and scavengy and rabbits are all about the love. There is no closer justification for why these animals would be any D&D class.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:13 No.14476020
    Shut the fuck up. Typing your long story slowly and making your audience sit around is a old /tg/ tradition.
    >> 40Kfag from /m/ !!rthE8hgFXea 04/04/11(Mon)21:13 No.14476026
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    >Eddie gave me that creepy old guy scowl, so I let it drop. Eddie snuck up to the half-elf girl.

    I do not like where this is going
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:13 No.14476031
    We've got 250+ posts before it even autosages and then we've got an hour or two even on a fast night. I think we'll be fine. Just do as I do and keep this thread in a tab, refreshing now and then while doing something else.
    >> Hamster 04/04/11(Mon)21:14 No.14476037
    Don't mind me, just going fucking berserk on a predator that's roughly twenty times my weight.

    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:14 No.14476039
    You are a fucking newfag forever you piece of shit.

    Leave and never come back you douchebaggy grognard fuck.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:14 No.14476040
    reading it slow lets you mull it over
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:15 No.14476044
    And argue about shit in between OP's posts.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:15 No.14476046
    I'm going to be Eddie's age before this story goes anywhere.

    You gotta get organized, OP.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:15 No.14476049

    Now I had combat planned to be a group of Kobolds - a slinger, a couple minions/tunnelers, and a couple of skirmishers. So we determined if the party had been surprised (they hadn't) and got right into combat.

    This is where it got kind of difficult and a little bogged down, since these folks, nice as they were, didn't really grasp powers/at-wills, so I had to explain it all nice and slow. Herb was the exception, as soon as he was able, he threw out a magic missile for some nice damage on a minion, killing it.

    Kirk - well, he seemed kind of half asleep, but as I got more and more dramatic and agitated as I described the combat, something just kind of switched on - like the old training kicked in, because all of the sudden, he's barking out orders like a paragon warlord or something. "Marlene, stay behind us, and watch our backs - Eddie, you get behind the lizard and use the back stabbing. Herb, stay back and keep using you missiles. I'll use my shield, keep them from flanking me!"

    I was kind of floored. I thought Eddie was kind of soft up there, but he had grasped the basics of D&D combat - faster than most new players I run across. Was he a savant or something?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:16 No.14476062
    These aren't hamsters you retarded shitbags. Way to fail at biology forever.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:16 No.14476064
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    This thread reminds me of this.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:17 No.14476069
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    which is, quite seriously, very important.

    Postan another picture I like in a thread I like
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:18 No.14476079
    >I thought Eddie

    Don't you mean Kirk? Or as he should now be known as; CAPTAIN Kirk?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:19 No.14476087
    >>14476049was he a savant?

    sorta underestimating him
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:19 No.14476091
    well what are they then? look like hamsters to me...
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:19 No.14476094
    As fine as this art is it just shits all over everything that was good about Asterix and Obelix.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:20 No.14476098
    It's labeled as a hamster and looks like a hamster. What is it?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:20 No.14476099
    Ah, this reminds me of the DMing for Bikers story.
    >> Dantalaeon !!2TQS185pmIh 04/04/11(Mon)21:20 No.14476101
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    Doesn't work as well with children, does it?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:21 No.14476115
    pretty sweet picture still though.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:24 No.14476142

    You kind of called it. It was like the light bulb went off with Kirk, seriously.


    Now I kind of had to help Marlene with her powers, which was strangely familiar, since I had a player bring his wife once, and she played the cleric, and the husband never bothered to expalin anything to her while he min-maxed his character - but that's another story.

    Once Marlene figured out she could help out in a supporting role, she just stuck with her at-will. Yes, she had more than one, but it was as far as whe was willing to go intellectually with this game. Lance of Faith it was then. Which actually helped Kirk and Eddie quite a bit, as they were now down to one skirmisher and the slinger, who had already run through all his special ammunition, missing pretty spectacularly. Herb - Herb was going right to the dailys at that point, I think he and Eddie have some kind of rivalry or something, so he throws out Flaming Sphere. And did it perfectly, putting it next to the slinger and rolling a crit on the sphere's attack.

    "Well done Herb! The slinger reels back, shifting a square"
    "Well, yeah, I had flaming sphere, so I used it to burn the slinger in the back, seemed appropriate."
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:28 No.14476168
    vietkongbolds would be either innapropriate or very
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:29 No.14476175
    Shit like this is why we shouldn't leave our old people to rot in nursing homes. These nam guys are awesome.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:29 No.14476176
    this is a great story

    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:29 No.14476182

    Whoops. Happens when you're typing fast and trying to recall everything. Yes, it was Kirk.


    So the combat was resolved, and the characters defeated the Kobolds pretty decisively, no healing surges required or anything.

    Eddie and Herb were both attending to the half-elf maiden who I mentioned earlier.

    At this point, it was medication time, so we had to wrap it up. I told them I'd be glad to continue, if they wanted to.

    Herb "yeah, well, I enjoyed that, it was interesting"
    Eddie "Eh, better than bingo"
    Marlene "I'm just glad everyone had fun"
    Kirk "Yes, yes, I'd like to play again."

    And that ended the session. I'm due back every Monday for the next 6 weeks. Campaign ideas?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:29 No.14476183
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    Yeah but grimdark re-imagining of childhood nostalgia is a fine tradition, like the good inspector here, and it's only a thin, misty coating of feces that will wash out easily.

    The art is indeed inspiring. I'd love to read about two ridiculously brutal warrior gauls and their savage hound as they defend their village from the terrifying might of the ROMAN LEGIONS. A terrifyingly capable war machine organized and deployed in four separate camps JUST to deal with their particular village and with Caesar's personal attention on the matter the entire time.

    I mean the sheer level of badass makes my head hurt.
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    Wouldn't it be better to play some mechanic-less adventure in modern setting? A detective scenario, or an adventure where you'd get to play teenagers on trip around Europe?
    Wouldn't it be more understandable and more fun for those elderly folk to imagine they were trying to hitch a ride with some Italian students to Venetia? Or rent a motorboat to go visit Emerald Caves?


    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:32 No.14476213
    Thats really cool OP. I love old people because very few of them are shitheads. By that point in life you pretty much figure out how to be a good person.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:32 No.14476215
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:32 No.14476216

    Yes, exactly.

    They've probably HEARD of D&D before. And so have an easier time sitting down to finally play this game they've heard about for decades.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:32 No.14476218

    Oh and a few thoughts - old people do smell strange, but they're very, very nice. You can go in there with all your rage and cynicism, and by the end, I just wanted to give Marlene a big hug. I'm definitely doing it again - even though the whole premise was that it would be good for a laugh, it turned out as a surprisingly fun experience.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:32 No.14476220

    He did Essentials. Which is derp simple. It's meant exactly for stuff like this, super easy intro to D&D.

    I just wish Wizards would treat it like the intro it is and not the focus of D&D...
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:33 No.14476229

    OP, first I have to say that everything thus far has been amazing.

    Second, as far as the campaign goes I can see alot of potential. You could branch it off from the half elf girl they saved somehow. Maybe Kobolds in the surrounding area are growing more daring since the arrival of a notorious blackguard, etc.

    Just off the top of my head here.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:34 No.14476235
    It's not about that. It's that they're holding weapons. Which basically makes the image just look like it isn't Asterix and Obelix at all.

    There would be much better ways of making them grimdark without making them use weapons which just looks plain wrong.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:35 No.14476238
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    You seem a tad upset, D&D while not perfect is a decent introductory game to the P&P genre.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:35 No.14476247
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    That picture is just begging for captions.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:36 No.14476256

    4e at first level isn't all that complicated, and old people aren't mentally retarded for the most part, they're just old.

    Herb was some kind of engineer or something, and doesn't have any family - this was exactly the kind of mental exercise he's looking for, something beyond crosswords and logic puzzles.

    Also, I had the fucking books with me. Derp.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:36 No.14476263
    >OP does something out of the good of his heart.
    >You chew him out over picking DnD.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:37 No.14476266
    Hmm. 6-session campaign for oldies...

    Some simple dungeon crawling with a decent enough elf-girls-being-kidnapped backstory sounds good.

    Duke Nukem it up!
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:37 No.14476267
    Quite so! The brand recognition outweighs the complex-ish rules

    >I'm due back every Monday for the next 6 weeks. Campaign ideas?

    Well you're going to want to do something that caters to all their interests somewhat. You've already figured out what seems to engage them. I would actually for once say keep looking to tropes and cliches for your inspiration OP. Let them reinact all the classic fantasy scenarios. Make them save a princess, that will give Eddie motivation, give complex tactical scenarios so that your resident soldier can get his war on. Not sure about the others
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:38 No.14476283
    After you are done OP show the Dark Heresy.

    Kirk can be a Guardsman.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:39 No.14476287
    >elf-girls-being-kidnapped backstory

    So Castle Crashers.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:39 No.14476294
    Not the guy raging, this was far too epic a story to rage over, but not really. D&D is one of the top most rules heavy systems out there. If you're a nerd and very much used to most of these concepts through computer games or other systems, its fine. First when you've basically never played anything before? No. It's absolute shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:39 No.14476295
    Or CoC/Arkham Horror and use some of their favorite books are reference material. They will love that I am sure.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:39 No.14476296

    What's cool is that a lot of this stuff IS new to them, so I can retread the same fantasy tropes and not feel too bad about it.

    Eddie also told me as I was leaving that it reminded him of "the Hobbit", so he must have read it at some point.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:41 No.14476319
    Asterix used his sword all the time.

    I just picture it as Asterix is out of potion and, because they are fucking surrounded by grimdark romans that should be taken seriously, Obelix is so nervous for his best friend's safety that he picks up a scavenged axe to make sure he can defend him from the horde,
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:41 No.14476320
    Can't be too complex if there's a six week break, and they're older people too.
    >Herbrand cultsit
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:41 No.14476321
    A castle.
    A princess.
    Some undead.
    A dungeon
    And a dragon.

    Do it OP.
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    That does not answer my question.

    What do you think those folks would find more comforting and pleasurable:
    -An imaginary trip around sunny Italy, visiting less-known but charming sites like caves with emerald water, or being invited to traditional Italian wedding
    -Killing vermin lizards with swords

    If your answer is option one, then WHY did you not think of anything comparable?
    were you:
    1: Lazy?
    2: Stupid?
    3: Inconsiderate?
    4: Selfish?
    >> Snapper Carr 04/04/11(Mon)21:43 No.14476343
    I don't know, would you rather do sight-seeing or KILL A DRAGON?

    I think even old people can agree option two is the best.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:44 No.14476347
    >-Killing vermin lizards with swords

    Picking this only because there's got to be some cash at the end of this all
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:44 No.14476354
    That was so awesome. Now you just need to draw up a picture of the party and show it to them!
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:45 No.14476357
    I choose option 2.
    They ARE evil, so I don't feel bad about killing them.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:45 No.14476361

    Mind you, that I still think you are pretty cool gy for doing what you do, but I am trying to give you perspective on what you are trying and ought to do.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:45 No.14476366
    >What do you think those folks would find more comforting

    Don't be so condescending.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:46 No.14476376
    ...that, minus the insults.

    I like the cut of your jib, OP, I really, really do (what you are doing is pure, distilled awesome), but, honestly, it just might be better to use a simpler system. If they can handle it, though, fair enough, should entertain them quite a bit.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:47 No.14476382
    How about this. We'll do an experiment.

    Go volunteer at a local old folks home. Offer to do some roleplaying based off of sightseeing in Italy and whatnot. Let us know how they liked it.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:47 No.14476388
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    Undead dragon demanding tribute from kobold tribes, OP. Bodies in particular.

    >My face when I see Herbert's face when he realizes that the dracolich wants more RAM for Deep Rot.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:48 No.14476398
    Option one would be a really fucking boring game, dude. Like watching someone's vacation slides.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:48 No.14476399
    You remembering Undead quantum computer fondly too?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:49 No.14476404
    Boy, before he kicked the bucket, my Ganddad went to a Call of Duty: Modern Warfare tournament at a local gamestore. He said it was some of the best fun he had ever had.

    I also got the vast majority of my warhammer 40k miniatures (IG and Nids) from him as well, and we had regular battles.

    tl;dr not all old people want to be treated like old people, and some like the same things we do.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:50 No.14476414

    ....one of those guys worked at IBM right?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:50 No.14476420
    Old folk are like regular folk. They can range from raging assholes, the passive-aggressive assholes, to pretty fucking awesome people. I just wish the head of the condo association was a cool guy like Herbert and not some passive-aggressive prick.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:51 No.14476421
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    Tell them the Quintessential Tale of Dungeons and Dragons. The Platonic embodiment of high fantasy.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:51 No.14476427


    get a pic of yourself with the group next session.

    Im sure some drawfriend will be more than happy to make a party with the respective members, caricatureified/youthified.

    Also i wish i could draw, Kirk's unit emblem as a coat of arms on a shield. I cant help but think theyd enjoy shit along those lines.

    I think that would really assist the budding attachment to their characters
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:54 No.14476454
    YOU choose? It's not about what You want!


    Besides- sightseeing is just a pretext for an adventure. Get them lost in woods and get them to rely on old hunter's shack to find shelter, when in the night they need to fend off a bear.

    Make it a task to find a particular person in town, where nobody speaks English (they need to gesticulate and draw instead).

    A local girl wants to escape with her boyfriend from oppressive parents. Players need to organise an elaborate scheme to help them escape Italy, while evading family members trying to stop them.

    If you cannot think of interesting adventures one might have on holidays far from home YOU SHOULDN'T BE GM IN FIRST PLACE.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:54 No.14476457
    But generally, by dint of being so much older, they have some bitchin' stories, or have done awesome things in their life.

    I found out at my grandmother's funeral that she'd personally smuggled bibles into the Soviet Union, under the Iron Curtain. Seriously. I couldn't imagine her touring Paris, let alone Moscow.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:55 No.14476467
    That's a great idea actually. Getting images off the net of goblins and dragons and the castle they attack and what some dungeons look like and so on would also be helpful for obvious reasons
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:55 No.14476472

    I did a pretty good job explaining what they needed to do, and tried not to get too bogged down in rules. Like I said, I had the books in my car anyways, so it was a spur of the moment thing. We actually were supposed to play Scrabble.

    With the exception of Marlene, by the end of the combat encounter, they were pretty good. These folks were probably the sharpest of the bunch, there was one woman who basically just sat there with her mouth open, and a worker at the home game by with a squirt bottle to moisten her mouth. I try not to dwell on that image, and instead focus on the awesomeness of Herb and Kirk, who really picked up on the game once it caught their interest.

    Also, it's a six-week deal, so I can simplify stuff - the slinger and three types of ammunition with status effects for instance - I'm glad I didn't have to do much with that, since he missed 3/3 times.

    Like I said, old people aren't stupid, they're just old.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:55 No.14476475
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    Pic related OP
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)21:56 No.14476484
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    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:02 No.14476523

    Wow, you feel trolled by me? Really? Or do you just can't respond with anything better than reaction image?

    Like I said-OP is a cool guy, but he should re-consider what will makes those folks happiest. Confusing system with abstract rules and setting they've never heard of just seems too cruel thing to consider implementing in game designed for people of this generation.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:04 No.14476548
    They're not old- THEY'RE JUST EXPERIENCED!
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:05 No.14476560
    >setting they've never heard of
    >LOTR/The Hobbit are quite likely to be older than they are
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:08 No.14476593
    if they did not like it they would tell him
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:09 No.14476603
    >spend time with people
    >they have fun
    You're probably the uncaring son who put them there.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:10 No.14476616

    Clerics of Pelor of Kobolds were not in LoTR. Besides, before the movies it was considered 'nerdy' by today's standards to really know anything about Tolkien's world.

    If you really want to make a fantasy adventure start with screening of LoTR and say 'ok, we will be playing something like this, but in times which were much more peaceful and dwarven kingdoms were prospering and... (yadda yadda yadda).
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:10 No.14476628

    What's more likely to induce PTSD?
    A vacation gone horribly wrong?
    Or slaying dragons?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:11 No.14476630
    John Wayne up there is right, I think. I'd go cowboys! Cowboy novels and movies were that generation's emo vampires
    ...they so got the better deal.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:11 No.14476638

    well shit, this group of old folks must be fucking superheros to have made it through this cruel exercise with these confusing and abstract, and quite frankly frightening for anyone over the age of 30 rules.

    Or they took a little time getting adjusted to a new experience, like ANY OTHER first time role player. Hell by the end it seemed like most were "GASP" enjoying themselves

    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:14 No.14476663
    Although it might be best to keep away from Native American content, for fear of riling up some serious political incorrectness...
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:16 No.14476689
    That's a good idea too. Maybe better.

    They would not. They probably really do appreciate and enjoy OP's companionship and it didn't matter what OP wanted to play even Battletech, they would still thank him for lovely evening. They would not enjoy the game, but find it acceptable price to pay for OP's involvement with them.

    Herb "yeah, well, I enjoyed that, it was interesting"
    Eddie "Eh, better than bingo"
    Marlene "I'm just glad everyone had fun"

    are not comments indicative of 'great fun' ANYTHING is better than bingo. Marlene just didn't want to spoil game for anyone.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:20 No.14476727
    as far as new adventure hooks/arcs, perhaps have the elf girl ask them to take her home to her village, on the way they encounter the BBEG (see stereotypical black knight) demands party turn over the maiden, revealing noble (see princess) status, something about ransom, or using her as a hostage to stave off the army of her father, choice of hook/trope is up to you. Party naturally refuses to hand her over, but during the battle the BBEG kidnaps elf maiden and rides off Zelda style with the princess over the shoulder. Maybe for Marlene include a scene with wounded folks in/near a village that she can save/heal, let the kind old mother instincts kick in

    just a few ideas to bounce off the wall.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:22 No.14476750
    Gate is the generally accepted way to get crazy shit like this. If your DM won't buy a trans-am as "a kind of being", try for "some guy driving his trans-am" instead. Then just trade him some gold for his car, send him on his merry way, and you're set. This is all assuming earth or some equivalent, are valid destinations in your game, and that they're sufficiently technologically advanced to have trans-ams. Just don't get too greedy and wish for weapons or something, or your DM won't let you get your pimp automobile to drive around in. Oh, and as for gas, you're either going to have to gate it in, or magically animate your car instead.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:22 No.14476758

    I wouldn't present even 26 phD students with DnD as a first-time RPG experience. It would only reinforce their preconceptions about RPGs being nerdy number-crunching games of knights and mages killing monsters for exp.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:26 No.14476788
    >not nerds

    Come on, son.

    Unless they're art or business majors, they're most likely nerds.

    The rules are nowhere near that complicated.

    But alas, you are a troll.

    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:28 No.14476802
    All wrong.

    Rabbit: Quick and cowardly. Rogue.
    Hamster: Frail and cute. Once depicted belching fireballs in a Kirby game. Wizard.
    KItten: Mean, selfish, sadistic motherfucker who will go nuts on shit. Fighter.
    Dog: Loyal. Exceedingly loyal. Stupidly loyal and fiercely protective. Cleric.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:28 No.14476805

    Apparently you think they're too stupid to differentiate between real life and a game. Herb and Kirk are obviously still very intelligent in their old age.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:29 No.14476811
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    i almost responded to this, but then i realized that you are gail the snail
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:33 No.14476839
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    "Eddie, you pick the lock and open the door, and are greeted by an embarrassed young lady in a state of undress."
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:34 No.14476853
    Anybody who has the rabbit as anything other than the fighter has never read Watership Down.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:35 No.14476865

    But alas, isn't there a grain of truth in every trolling?

    I was responsible for introduction of several tens of men to the hobby, and although I could have used DnD, I chose either 7th Sea or CoC of 5Rings.

    Most times I got response 'golly gee, I didn't know there was more to RPG than killing dungeons in dragons, but that was fun!'
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:36 No.14476869
    awwww shit, General Woundwort
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:41 No.14476920
    Oh god what?
    How is this so hard for people?
    Dog: Loyal, smart to a point, follows directions easily, stalwart defender. Clearly WARRIOR
    Cat: Smart but conniving. moves silently, won't hesitate to use its claws. Little loyalty. ROGUE
    Bunny: fluffy, cute relatively defenseless. CLERIC
    Hamster: Small and easily hurt. However those teeth and claws can be brutal. WIZARD.

    Geez that wasn't hard was it?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:44 No.14476959
    I don't think you understand him.

    Slaying dragons would not trigger PTSD, because it is very fantastic.

    Holiday gone wrong is closer to Vietnam, because the GIs and Marines thought they'd be home by christmas, instead of the years of hell they went through.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:46 No.14476977
    >D&D game for the elderly
    Only fa/tg/uys.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:46 No.14476983

    Sure there's a grain of truth. But straight up condemning OP for using D&D is fucking retarded. Any system can be run rules light and have fun for beginners, and from the sound of it OP did just that with D&D. Sure there may have been 'better' choices, but OP chose something he was familiar with and made it work


    and thats pretty much the best one outta the lot.

    Dog is definitely warrior type, not barb though
    Cat is ABSOLUTELY a rouge anyone who says otherwise has never seen a cat.
    Hamster could be either a bard or a wizard, depending on how useful you want him to be
    Bunny is not the hyperactive jumpin around type rabbit, fat motherfucker with big floppy ears = heavy armor and faith and shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:48 No.14477007
    Damn. Now I kinda want to start running a classic D&D game at my local old folks home too

    but I'm selfish and lazy, so I wont. I would totally do it if I was a good person though.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:48 No.14477014
    You keep using that word.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)22:50 No.14477026
    Yeah, just like them gooks in 'nam.
    Oh wait. Lots of old folks feel bad about that.
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    >mfw I'm running a 4E game this summer with 5 PhD students, all of whom are new to RPGs, and all of whom are really excited about it.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:01 No.14477144
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    Elderly character portraits, anyone?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:02 No.14477151
    I think they feel worse about their friends dying, and the civilians that died.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:04 No.14477163
    Did you know rabits scream so that other rabits survive and run away?

    Did you realize that they have basicly said "yeah, i'm fucked, everyone else save yourself"


    Because there is no Bunny god for them to be pallys.

    Of course, blackguard is still an option. There is a dark bunny god, forgotten to the ages, a old terror of young tales ,moving from house to house, leaving nothing but white, drained vegtables.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:19 No.14477348

    Of course there is a bunny god.

    Did you never read watership down?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:23 No.14477380
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:23 No.14477385
    oh god, dat bunnicula.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:26 No.14477417
    Go back and read that post again

    See if anything pops up
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:27 No.14477428
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:32 No.14477497
    rolled 1 = 1

    My dad is eagerly awaiting the day when they come out with VR first person shooters so he can feel like he's legally killing people again.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:32 No.14477498
    just got through this thread

    never change /tg/

    never change..

    also that one italy vacation turd nugget can go to some board that his faggotry will be welcomed, like /v/ or someshit
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:33 No.14477503
    More or less this. But the hamster is a sorceror, not a wizard, since they are dumb but cute, so lots of cha, no int.

    And considering switching rabbit and dog.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:35 No.14477527
    Sounds so much like a thing my dad would do, only that he never was to war of any sort, because all the guys under him were so dumb (he actually has the Soviet education of a communicator officer - if 'communicator' is the word I'm looking for) - and well, he hates computer games.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:36 No.14477532
    Dogs are the most physically powerful of the pets. Seriously, Siberian Husky against a fucking rabbit, no bet on who wins.

    Dog is fighter. This is not up for debate.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:38 No.14477550
    There are other fighters than melee guys. And in the picture the bunny is clearly able of kicking the shit out of the dog.
    BTW, a RL rabbit may be able to drive away a husky that was not too keen on killing him.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:39 No.14477563


    sorry, dog is loyal protector of master/party
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:42 No.14477584

    He is obviously forgetting paladins of El-ahrairah though.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:43 No.14477603
    So very probably may be a cleric.
    And ok, the rabbit is a barbarian, if it pleases you. Fits Watership Down even better in some way.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/11(Mon)23:54 No.14477729
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    Post here next monday, do want to hear more.

    Just pre-write it next time.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:00 No.14477782
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    this, but deliver in whatever manner you deem fit, arguing semantics between posts is something /tg/ cannot live without, the other is good stories. Either way /tg/ wins
    >> TheSinisterSouthpaw !!XI/WQ3Th2z1 04/05/11(Tue)00:04 No.14477819
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    >peruses thread

    OP - good on you.

    The rest of you sorry lot - No wonder no one wants to play with you bickering fucks. New systems, poorly designed or not, and eclectic content aren't what makes this hobby unpopular, it's because it's full of social pariahs like yourself that people can't stand to be around.

    Christ, you guys are just fucking awful.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:04 No.14477827

    I'm going to go find those now and read them ALL.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:13 No.14477916
    I loved the thread OP! I'm glad you had to balls to stick with your plan and I'm happy I decided to keep reading this thread.

    +5 would read again next monday
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:13 No.14477926
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    OP, you did well this day. Taking the time to engage these neglected people in something new and hopefully exciting to them is pure platinum. and to those who criticize OP for his choice; shame on you for picking apart this gentleman's effort at putting some sunshine into people's lives.

    Best thread on /tg/ in awhile, by far.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:14 No.14477943

    to be fair there were only a few anons that were total faggots, some of us tried to contribute.
    >> TheSinisterSouthpaw !!XI/WQ3Th2z1 04/05/11(Tue)00:17 No.14477968
    agreed, however, responding to them only exacerbates the problem
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:26 No.14478077

    most if not all of the responses werent, holyballsrageoutmyfuckingnipples replies

    sadly, lolitrollyou.jpg is a honest to god thought process behind trolls
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:38 No.14478180
    What the fuck? This wasn't archived yet? I will not suffer this!
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:39 No.14478185
    Well done OP! You seem like an alright person.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:44 No.14478246
    The combination of the argument of what system to use and which animal is which in the party balance screen brought something to mind: Bunnies & Burrows
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:49 No.14478291
    Wasn't that actually based on Watership Down?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)00:52 No.14478332
    jeez, /tg/ why so troll? OP did a good thing, and if you think you could do it better, then go out to an old folks home and volunteer to entertain them with whatever game you deem fit.

    High Fantasy is probably great, Kirk the fighter probably wouldn't be able to enjoy a realistic Vietnam RPG. And sci-fi futuristic probably wouldn't interest the majority of the ones that already have their warranties expired.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)01:11 No.14478549
    Look forward to the continuing adventures of this party and their noble quest next monday.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)01:17 No.14478620
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    I liked your story op.

    If I was a criminal and to do community service
    Similar to yours, I would have gone with
    savage worlds, and a game of Deadlands!

    Cowboys and vampires!

    An idea for you OP: try to find an older fantasy
    moive or movies that you can show them, one that demonstrtes each basic class.
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    BAMP dagnabit.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)01:43 No.14479000
    So OP, how'd you get community service? Just volunteer? Or something SINISTER?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)01:45 No.14479040

    dosnt have to be sinister, for Florida bright futures scholarship they require 'x' amount of service hours, in addition to scholastic stuff. Or possibly OP is just that cool a dude that he just volunteers and shit.
    >> Abdul Alhazred, the Mad Arab !Jagyd/33aU 04/05/11(Tue)01:48 No.14479087
    Weird, I don't remember a Community Service part on my Bright Futures application.

    Also, this thread is good docu/mockumentary material.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)01:52 No.14479161
    "Inspired" by I believe
    >> Sarvesh Mossbeard !VTMlTSyRo. 04/05/11(Tue)01:55 No.14479206
    Run a western to really connect them.
    Add a bit of fantasy.
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    that would be deadlands.
    Wild west + occult horror + mad science = Deadlands.

    You can tone it up down as much as you need.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)09:38 No.14482489
    God, this was awesome.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)09:59 No.14482623
    I think a wild west would be good. Atleast the 50s-70s was all about wild west romanticism. And it's modern enough for Kirk to get his soldier on.

    Maybe Hunter or Mage, even.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)10:45 No.14482892
    Run an Old West game, use the plot of Red Dead Redemption as the base, what're the chances of any of them having played it?
    >> Cure Emotional Wounds !!0uKx4H3LUzV 04/05/11(Tue)11:00 No.14483016
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    Have them quest for the fountain of youth.


    I made myself sad...
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)11:49 No.14483487
    What the fuck, guys.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)13:05 No.14484165
    Kobolds serve undead Dragon.
    Undead Dragon serves Litch.
    Litch is making supercomputer out of skellies and punch cards.
    Because he ain't got nothin' else 'ta do.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/11(Tue)13:30 No.14484419
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    rabbits are fierce as shit

    fighter for sure

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