These Templars will be tasked with a variety of missions for the glory of Nibenay, fighting different kinds of "witches": Templars of different city-states, heretics of the blasphemous Veiled Alliance, and renegade Templars. They'll be monster slayers too, encountering horrible aberrations like anakores, floating mantles, gaj, nightmare beasts, psurlons, silt horrors, tembos, and more. Another type of adventure they might undertake is the administration of Nibenay itself, solving internal strife and defusing politics with either words or violence.

Along the way, they might even learn the truth behind some of these monsters, why many of them have such human intelligence, what they once were (I'll be generously refluffing). They might even learn the truth of Nibenay himself, and the dangerous "entropy" he claims to be an expert on...

So /tg/, think it has any promise?

Less important are these character generation rules I drafted up, but I'll go ahead and post them for completeness anyway:

Basic Chargen:
- This is an elite strike force, so starting level is 9.
- Everyone uses an ability score spread of 16-16-12-12-12-12. Racial bonuses and stat bumps at certain level ups still apply.
- Everyone's theme HAS to be Templar.
- Only backgrounds allowed are the PHB2 style backgrounds.
- No such thing as class skills. Pick whatever skills you want. Endurance and Perception highly recommended.
- Everyone gets free unnerfed Melee Training and a +1/+2/+3 feat bonus to all defenses and all implement and weapon attack and damage rolls, because seriously, fuck feat tax (esp. the power creepy Essentials ones). This'll be made up for by hard encounters of only MM3/MV/DSCC/Demonomicon monsters.

Races:
- Nibenay has picky and specific tastes in wives. The majority are canonically humans and half-elves, but PCs can also be elves, eladrin, and kalashtar (psionic spirited humans).
- Essentials stat bonuses for all of the above still apply, but kalashtar instead get +2 Int/Cha or +2 Wis/Cha, and Intelligence or Charisma can be used instead of Wisdom for any of their racial feats.
- Half-elves with Dilettante can pick only an arcane or psionic power for it. Half-elves with Knack for Success can't use it to give a bonus to a skill check.

Classes:
- These are MAGICAL girls, so only arcane and psionic classes and multiclasses. Sorcerer-King Warlock is a sensible choice fluffwise, but it's not required, and it'd be boring if everyone was a Sorcerer-King Warlock anyway.
- Only warlock pact at heroic is Sorcerer-King Pact. That means no hexblades, but they're so weak anyway. You can take Twofold Pact at paragon if you fluff it well though.
- Battleminds don't get proficiency with chain or scale, but they can use their Constitution modifier for their AC when not in heavy armor, and while they're wearing no armor or cloth armor, they get a +3 feat bonus to AC.
- Psionic characters get Psionic Defiling as a bonus feat, because entropy.
- Prescient Bards and Clarity Ardents get to use their Wisdom modifier for their AC when not in heavy armor, Fortitude, and initiative. They also get Unarmored Agility as a bonus feat.
- Wizards who take Wand of Accuracy and DON'T have Second Implement get to use their Dexterity modifier for their Fortitude.
- The monk feats Crashing Tempest Style, Pointed Step Style, Skipping Stone Flurry, and Starblade Flurry don't require weapons. They work with anything, even unarmed. Hafted Defense works the same way, but ONLY for a monk.


Items:
- Magic items are done normally (no inherent bonuses) because these Templars are well-funded.
- No boons of any kind, except everyone gets a free level 18 Nibenay's Cruel Reminder.
- Everyone can use a shortbow, longbow, greatbow, rod, or staff as an implement. Iconic magical girl implements, you know?
- Any implement can accept a dragonshard.
- There's a new ki focus, There are two new ki focuses, the Ki Focus of Ruin. It's basically the Staff of Ruin, only as a ki focus. HOWEVER, its property doesn't function if you're benefiting from a Ki Weapon.

Saddly this thread will die. I did however giggle at it. Best fluff rape I've seen in a while.

>So clearly, there's an established, canonical precedent for magical girls in positions of power and authority in Dark Sun.

But I don't know anything about dark sun.

>>14151291
It's a grim dark desert world slowly being pulled into it's sun. The gods are dead and planar connections are shot so taking jaunts to the plane of water is not possible. The world is metal poor so people will kill you for your masterwork steel weapon first and then for the liquid in your blood second. Magic fucked everything up so straight up arcane users are hated and with good reason, they can suck the life out of the area around them just for a quick boost to magic.

There is a bunch of other things but that's the main points. Gods dead, World is a shitty desert, Rare materials, and a wizard did it so bad everyone wants to kill the wizards on sight.

>>14151291

>The squad is overseen by a cute, fuzzy little creature, an aspect of Nibenay's will that had empowered their wedding-contract with Nibenay. This creature gives them direction and support in this harsh world, and answers questions for them to protect their minds from confusing ideologies.

So their boss is a dick, but doesn't actually eat them?

Sounds like a coll premise. Where are their missions to eradicate foreign powers that could threaten their king's authority?

>>14151169
I'll take that as a compliment.

>>14151235
Sorry if I typed that in an ambiguous way. What I meant to say wasn't that there were magical girls in positions of power and authority ALL OVER Dark Sun, but that they DO exist in the setting in one specific city-state, Nibenay. The most powerful of them is a 15-year-old girl. So, it shouldn't be that exotic a concept for a game.

>>14151800
Read the second post.

Anyway, I thought of four more house rules to balance this game more:

- Lasting Frost and Gloves of Ice are fucking banned. Don't you dare go Frostcheese on me.
- Great Fortitude, Lightning Reflexes, Iron Will, Superior Fortitude, Superior Reflexes, Superior Will, Epic Fortitude, Epic Reflexes, and Epic Will are all banned to keep non-AC defenses at a manageable level and for game balance purposes.
- Instead of +2 Insight, +2 any other skill, kalashtar get +2 to any three skills.

- Because there are no +2 Str/Cha or +2 Dex/Cha races amongst humans, half-elves, elves, eladrin, and kalashtar, sorcerers are a bit screwed. So, depending on your race, the stat bonuses you picked, and your Spell Source, you get bonuses. These don't apply to hybrid sorcerers.

Human Sorcerer (Any Spell Source): +1 AC.

Half-Elf (+2 Con/Cha):
Cosmic/Dragon: +1 AC, +1 Reflex.
Storm/Wild: +1 AC.

Half-Elf (+2 Con/Wis):
Cosmic/Dragon: +1 AC, +1 Reflex, +1 bonus to all attack and damage rolls.
Storm/Wild: +1 AC, +1 bonus to all attack and damage rolls.

Elf (+2 Dex/Int or +2 Dex/Wis):
Cosmic/Dragon: +1 AC, +1 bonus to all attack rolls, +2 bonus to all damage rolls.
Storm/Wild: +1 bonus to all attack and damage rolls.

Eladrin (+2 Dex/Int):
Cosmic/Dragon: +1 AC, +1 Reflex, +1 bonus to all attack rolls, +2 bonus to all damage rolls.
Storm/Wild: +1 Fortitude, +1 bonus to all attack and damage rolls.

Eladrin (+2 Int/Cha):
Cosmic/Dragon: +1 AC, +1 bonus to all damage rolls.
Storm/Wild: +1 AC, +1 Fortitude, +1 bonus to all damage rolls.

Kalashtar (+2 Int/Cha):
Cosmic/Dragon: +1 AC, +1 bonus to all damage rolls.
Storm/Wild: +1 AC, +1 Fortitude, +1 bonus to all damage rolls.

Kalashtar (+2 Wis/Cha):
Cosmic/Dragon: +1 AC, +1 Reflex, +1 bonus to all damage rolls.
Storm/Wild: +1 AC, +1 Fortitude, +1 bonus to all damage rolls.

And a fifth, I guess:

- Everyone is proficient with shortbows and longbows.

>>14151800
Their liaison to Nibenay is a cute little animal because it's easier to lower one's guard, confide in, and trust in a cute and fuzzy creature than a big, monstrous, wormlike beast. It feeds them indoctrination whenever they ask it things like "Those heretics were talking about that thing we do to harvest plants being harmful to the planet. What do they mean?"

And their missions:
>These Templars will be tasked with a variety of missions for the glory of Nibenay, fighting different kinds of "witches": Templars of different city-states, heretics of the blasphemous Veiled Alliance, and renegade Templars. They'll be monster slayers too, encountering horrible aberrations like anakores, floating mantles, gaj, nightmare beasts, psurlons, silt horrors, tembos, and more. Another type of adventure they might undertake is the administration of Nibenay itself, solving internal strife and defusing politics with either words or violence.

>Along the way, they might even learn the truth behind some of these monsters, why many of them have such human intelligence, what they once were (I'll be generously refluffing). They might even learn the truth of Nibenay himself, and the dangerous "entropy" he claims to be an expert on...

>>14151719
>slowly being pulled into it's sun

Source on this?

Otherwise godspeed OP. Never considered Nibenay like that.

Or you could consider running your game like a version of Charlies' Angels with Nibenay being the research obsessed distant Charlie.

While I do applaud the effort you put in this, I really loathe the fact that you're mixing DS with anime.

>>14152872
>Or you could consider running your game like a version of Charlies' Angels with Nibenay being the research obsessed distant Charlie.

It's kind of already shaping up to be like that.

>>14150571
>- These are MAGICAL girls, so only arcane and psionic classes and multiclasses. Sorcerer-King Warlock is a sensible choice fluffwise, but it's not required, and it'd be boring if everyone was a Sorcerer-King Warlock anyway.

Does this mean I can be a magical girl Templar artificer (arcane leader)? The frilly desert dress-wearing MacGyver of the Ivory Triangle? Jury-rigging together weapons and alchemical infusions from sand, tumbleweeds, sisal, cacti, and flesh, bone, and sinew from kestrekels, mekillots, id fiends, and braxats? Fixing anything with silk wyrm web duct tape and an obsidian pocket knife?

Because if so, I'd totally play that in this game. Maybe as a kappa, I mean, kalashtar.

>>14153775
Why equate kappa to kalashtar?

>>14150562

>This is an elite strike force, so starting level is 9.

Level 9 for KYUbey, you mean!

>>14156748
Nothing, they just both started with "ka" and none of the races really fit kappa, so I might as well aim for vague wordplay.

So is this going to be an actual online game or is it just pitching ideas for a game elsewhere?

The magical girl waifus need Soul Gems to finalize their contract with Kyuubenay.

'm guessing the optional weapon breakage won't be used here? Because I don't see a mahou shoujo shortbow breaking that easily.

I'd like to try making a character with these house rules but can't get the Character Builder to accept them, especially the racial mods and stuff. Is there any way to edit houserules into this resource hogging program?

Why are you raping Dark Sun?

WHY?

>>14159683
>>Kyuubenay

This is now Nibenay's name in my Dark Sun campaigns. I'll just pronounce it that way with no further explanation.

Almost as glorious as Planescape Magical Girls or Eclipse Phase Magical Girls.

This has my support!

I'll play the spunky, energetic one who always cheers the others up when it feels like there's no way to beat those dastardly magical girls from the Veiled Alliance!

Why does any setting have child soldiers? Well, why does it happen in the real world?

Controllable, unquestioning minions.

Now, if you recall how draconic advancement works in some versions of Dark Sun fluff, the parallels to Kyuubee become even stronger. Hell, even if he's just using the end-products as defiling batteries it would make sense.

>>14159944
http://code.google.com/p/cbloader/

>>14160524

Just like in real life.

Even the colors match!

>>14152144
sauce of this? please

What?

And what about adventure seed?

Why can't I be a magical girl ranger?

>>14163494

Because it isn't an Arcane Powe class.

>>14164093

It is 4E. Every class is a magical girl.

> Everyone uses an ability score spread of 16-16-12-12-12-12

>Two Primary Stats
>Four Secondary Stats
>No Tertiary Stats

Really? Nibenay only selects the best women from his eugenic programs?

I would suspect all of the to have Tertiary Wisdom.

>>14164844

Because every magical gurl is zho SPEZIAL!

Let's rape Dark Sun's fluff some more. Nibenay lies in the northeastern corner of the lush, verdant Crescent (see what I did there?) Forest. In the southwestern corner is their #1 rival and their #1 enemy, the city-state of Gulg. Their Templars, their magical girls, are the ones that the teenage Templars of Nibenay will most commonly clash with. What does 4e's Dark Sun fluff have to say about the Templars of Gulg?

>The Oba and the Primal Spirits
>Unlike the other sorcerer-kings, who maintain that primal magic is a sham, Lalali-Puy teaches her people that the primal spirits of the Crescent Forest are real—and that they hate the residents of Gulg. Primal spirits, according to the Oba, are embodiments of pure evil, and only the might of the queen and her templars hold them at bay. Because primal magic is the best means by which to coerce and control these vicious spirits, many of Gulg's templars are shamans or druids who cruelly enslave the spirits serving them.

>Gulg templars have a powerful connection to primal spirits. It is not a relationship between equals but rather one of slaves to masters, with the nganga as the latter. to dominate the spirits, some nganga dabble in primal classes, with shamans being the most common.

Templars of Gulg form bonds to primal spirits of the earth, but instead of befriending them after their capture, the Templars cruelly enslave, experiment with, and extort the power of these primal spirits. They're hated by primal magicians who practice more traditional and humane methods of summoning and manipulating these primal spirits.

Sounds to me like the magical girls of Gulg are Team Rocket, and Lalali-Puy is Giovanni!

>>14159786
That's right. The PCs will be using magic weapons anyway. Even though they're made out of bone and obsidian and other materials like that, their enchantments stop them from breaking so easily.

>>14152144
Let me expand on this with a three more house rules for PCs to make bows more viable for these arcane and psionic characters.

- Everyone can magically generate ammunition for a ranged weapon as a free action. Unused ammunition disappears in 1 round, like it came from an Endless Quiver.
- When making a ranged basic attack with the weapon keyword, everyone can use their highest ability score instead of Dexterity.
- When a PC takes Superior Implement Training, she can choose Superior Implement Training (Accurate Bow). If she has this, she gains a +1 bonus to implement and weapon attack rolls made with all shortbows, longbows, and greatbows.

I really, really hate this, and I hate you.

I feel kind of bad about it, since what you're doing isn't hurting me in any way, but... ugh. This is what religious people must feel like when people do blasephemous shit.

>>14169354

What's the matter? Can't handle a logical and sensible extrapolation of the canon flavor of 4e's Dark Sun?

There.. There's no magical weapons in Dark Sun 4e. Inherent bonuses are usually used instead.

>>14170085

Which is totally why there are 28 new magic items in the Dark Sun Campaign Setting, 14 of which are weapons and implements, right? Page 210 says that techniques for creating psionic magic items are known to templars (OP's game is about templars) and nobles. I'm not a fan of inherent bonuses anyway because of how, unless you homebrew piles of new alternative rewards, you'll still be using magic items anyway. Especially if you want item bonuses to damage rolls to make combat not take a month.

>>14170106
>I don't know how inherent bonuses work

>>14170115

Inherent bonuses give ENHANCEMENT bonuses, not any of the item bonuses that PCs usually stock up on, like from Iron Armbands, Bracers of Archery, Staff of Ruin, defense-raising items, and all that.

Why is Kyuubee Cirno in the OP pic?

Why not mix in some PS&G with Madoka and Dark Sun?

Sandy and Templing with Nibenay.

>>14170334

The party will be harassed by a recurring duo of tieflings, one of which is obsessed with the ruuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrs?

Koishi Komeiji, the Closed Eyes of Love, magical girl Templar of Nibenay, subconscious-manipulating psion extraordinaire, reporting in!

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Koishi Komeiji, the Closed Eyes of Love, level 9
Kalashtar, Psion
Build: Telepathic Psion
Discipline Focus: Shaper Focus
Kalashtar: Bluff, Diplomacy, Stealth Bonus
Background: Arcane Agent (+2 to Stealth)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 12, Con 12, Dex 12, Int 20, Wis 12, Cha 20.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 12, Con 12, Dex 12, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 16.


AC: 23 Fort: 19 Reflex: 23 Will: 25
HP: 56 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 14

TRAINED SKILLS
Bluff +18, Diplomacy +18, Endurance +15, Insight +10, Perception +12, Stealth +16

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +5, Arcana +9, Athletics +5, Dungeoneering +5, Heal +5, History +9, Intimidate +9, Nature +5, Religion +9, Streetwise +9, Thievery +5

FEATS
Psion: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Vistani Heritage
Level 2: Bardic Dilettante
Level 4: Bardic Ritualist
Level 6: Unarmored Agility
Level 8: Superior Implement Training (Crystal orb)
Feat User Choice: Improved Defenses
Feat User Choice: Implement Expertise (Orb)
Feat User Choice: Weapon Expertise (Unarmed)
Feat User Choice: Implement Expertise (Staff)
Feat User Choice: Implement Focus (Orb)
Feat User Choice: Implement Focus (Staff)
Feat User Choice: Weapon Focus (Staff)
Feat User Choice: Weapon Focus (Unarmed)
Feat User Choice: Melee Training (Charisma)

>>14171341
That accursed sister of mine is evil! She pushed me over the brink and forced me to close my third eye! But I suppose I'm happier this way, right? Right... right!

POWERS
Psion at-will 1: Mind Thrust
Psion at-will 1: Dishearten
Psion daily 1: Ravening Thought
Psion utility 2: Intellect Fortress
Psion at-will 3: Psychic Anomaly
Psion daily 5: Glare of Oppression
Psion utility 6: Mind Shroud
Psion daily 9: Mind Blast

ITEMS
Crystal Orb of Mental Constitution +2, Defensive Staff +1, Shimmering Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +2, Amulet of Seduction +2, Boots of Stealth (heroic tier), Cannith Goggles (heroic tier), Phylactery of Action, Nibenay's Cruel Reminder (paragon tier), Spellshard, Adventurer's Kit, Dowsing Rod, Distillation Kit, Desert Clothing, Sun balm, Survival Day (10), Silk Rope (50 ft.)
RITUALS
Comrades' Succor, Glib Limerick, Call of Friendship, Anthem of Unity, Enchant Magic Item

No rules for magical girl transformation sequences? It'd be awesome if, when their cover while infiltrating Balic or someplace was blown, they'd awe all around them with their time warping transformation sequences.

>make a Dark Sun Thread before reading the front page
>herp

So I'm making Hexxus from Fern Gully into an Arcane Defiler, what race/class should I choose?

>>14171341
>>14171351

You forgot to give her Psionic Defiling.

Is this a Kyuubee thread?

Picture very related. It's for a heroic tier game of mine.

>>14172237
>The target is transformed into a pulchitrudinous magical girl

>>14171717
Whoops. I'll be sure to add that in.

I don't really like the actual Arcane Defiling power anyway. I can see it being useful with only one other party member, but with two or more, it's just not that worth it unless the attack you're rerolling is a super damaging or super debuffing daily attack power.

>>14172580

Read the next line. You won't like it.

>>14172580
>>no image macro

Um, that looks like a massive erection IN SPACE.

I'm pretty sure that describes what many people would feel in this situation. Ergo, your macro is paradoxical.

Kyuubenay's true form.

>>14175232

What it says in moon?