The first thing you fucks gotta do is tell me what kind of character you want to be. Here are the choices, decide. The character that receives the most support gets it.


THE ANGEL
Medic. If you want everybody to love you, or at least rely on you, play an angel. Warning: if things are going well, maybe nobody will rely on you. Make interesting relationships so you’ll stay relevant. Or sabotage things, I guess.

THE BATTLEBABE
Good in battle, of course, but wicked social too. If you want to play somebody dangerous and provocative, play a battlebabe. Warning: you might find that you’re better at making trouble than getting out of it. If you want to play the baddest ass, play a gunlugger instead.

THE BRAINER
Fucking wackjob. Your moves are powerful but strange. If you want everybody else to be at least a little bit afraid of you, a brainer is a good choice. Warning: you’ll be happy anyway, but you’ll be happiest if somebody wants to be close to you even though you’re a brainer. Angle for that if you can.

THE CHOPPER
Lead a biker gang. You're powerful but lots of your power is external, in your gang. If you want weight to throw around, play a chopper — but if you want to be really in charge, play a hardholder instead. Warning: externalizing your power means drama. Expect drama.

THE DRIVER
You've got wheels, meaning mobility, freedom, and places to go. If you can’t see the post-apocalypse without cars, you gotta be a driver. Warning: your car’s going to be awesome, but you’ll be at a pretty significant disadvantage when you aren’t behind the wheel, so be prepared for that.

THE GUNLUGGER
The baddest ass. Your moves are simple, direct and violent. Crude, even. If you want to take no shit, play a gunlugger. Warning: like angels, if things are going well, you might be kicking your heels. Interesting relationships can keep you in the scene.

THE HARDHOLDER
Landlord, warlord, governor of your own little stronghold. If you play a hardholder, the game’s going to have a serious and immobile home base. If you want to be the one who owns it, it better be you. Warning: don’t be a hardholder unless you want the burdens.

THE HOCUS
Lead cult followers the way choppers have gangs. You're strange, social, public and compelling. If you want to sway mobs, play a hocus. Warning: things are going to come looking for you. Being a cult leader means having to deal with your fucking cult.

Time to GHOST RIDE my WHIP.

THE HOCUS
Lead cult followers the way choppers have gangs. You're strange, social, public and compelling. If you want to sway mobs, play a hocus. Warning: things are going to come looking for you. Being a cult leader means having to deal with your fucking cult.

THE OPERATOR
Freelancer, moonlighter, odd jobber, schemer and fixer. You’ve always got one thing cooking, one thing in prep, and one thing on the verge of going wrong. If you play an operator you’ll always have something to do; unlike angels and
gunluggers, you make your own business. Warning: your life is half getting ahead and half going under. Expect to swallow your share of water.

THE SAVYHEAD
Techie. You have really cool abilities in the form of your workspace, and a couple of fun reality-bending moves. Play a savvyhead if you want to be powerful and useful, but maybe not a leader yourself. Warning: your workspace depends on resources, and lots of them, so make friends with everyone you can.

THE SKINNER
Pure hot. You're entirely social and they have great, directly manipulative moves. Play a skinner if you want to be unignorable. Warning: skinners have the tools, but unlike hardholders, operators and hocuses, they don’t have a steady influx of motivation. You’ll have most fun if you can roll your own.


Make a decision you guys.

>>14051064
>THE BRAINER

Crazy psychic chick looking for love. It must be done.

HARDHOLDER. Delicious bases. Anyone who plays DF or TA knows the appeal.

Brainer, Hardholder, what the fuck else guys?

Battlebabe. Femme fatale all the way!

HARDHOLDER! FUCK YEAH!

whoa

Wait till I read the introduction please!

Two delicious fuck yeahs for the hardholder. Any more support and that's the way we'll go. If anything else gets three votes first, that'll be it instead.

>>14051171
Brainer! I wanna be a psyker!

Hardholder. Let's build a fortress around a desert oasis and shit.

>>14051171
Savvy head. I'm horrible at leading things.

Hardholder, hardholder, hardholder!

Brainer!

Brainer. Fuckin' mind bullets, man.

>>14051214
(ready)

I'll vote for
BRAINER
HARDHOLDER
SAVYHEAD
OPERATOR

In that order (the first the most appealing)

Going for Hardholder
Its the only option where your guaranteed not to be someone else's bitch

hardholder

Hardholder! It reminds me of Lord Quest, which I miss dearly.

THE HARDHOLDER
There is no government, no society, in Apocalypse World. When hardholders ruled whole continents, when they waged war on the other side of the world instead of with the hold across the burn-flat, when their armies numbered in the hundreds of thousands and they had fucking boats to hold their fucking airplanes on, that was the golden age of legend. Now, anyone with a concrete compound and a gang of gunluggers can claim the title. What other authority is there?

Let's find out who you are. The first post ending in 0 or 5 decides.

NAME
Nbeke, Allison, Kobe, Kreider, Tranh, Marco, Sadiq, Vega, Lang, Lin, Jacson, Madame, Barbecue, Grandma, Uncle, Parson, Barnum, Colonel, Mother Superior, or something else.

LOOK
Man, woman, ambiguous, or transgressing.

Luxe wear, display wear, vintage wear, casual wear, utility wear, junta wear, or something else.

Strong face, stern face, cruel face, soft face, aristocratic face, gorgeous face, or something else.

Cool eyes, commanding eyes, languid eyes, sharp eyes, forgiving eyes, generous eyes, or something else.

Strong body, soft body, wiry body, massive body, athletic body, sensual body, or something else.

>>14051327
>NAME

Colonel

>LOOK

Woman

Military Wear

Strong Face

Commanding Eyes

Strong Body

>>14051327
>The first post ending in 0 or 5 decides
This is a very awful way for decision making.

>Name
Colonel Vega

>Look
Male
vintage wear
Strong face
commanding eyes

Strong body

>>14051327
>>14051171
Lin, ambiguou, utility wear, waifish face, cool eyes, wiry body

>>14051365
Looks like you win. Good for you.

>>14051378
Still think it is a bad way to come to a decision.
Though I can understand that MC would like to get things going faster.

>>14051327
We are The King, our garb is a some what worn tuxedo and tophat. At first glance we look like a well dressed madman. We are of average hight and look a bit skinny we are of average strength and are extremly well educated. We also make frequent ues of the royal we .

NAME= Mother Superior
LOOK= Woman
Wear= Armoured Nun habit.
Face= Gorgeous but cold.
Eyes= Commanding.
Body= Athletic but curvy.

>>14051395

How else should we make the decision? If you have suggestions, do share.

Bill the Butcher
Male of course rather tall about 6' 3" strong body wears casual denim jeans and a flannel button down usually wears a white smock when doing his 'butchering' has bored looking eyes when he is not engaging in his pastime. A distinct face with chiseled features but with deep painful looking scars across his face from the several knife fights he has fought in building his game

>>14051395
going with 0 or five will not speed things up, deadpool quest on /v/ the other day went like 15-20 post without any 0 or 5

rolled 1, 15 = 16

>>14051416
By rolling. /tg/ has an integrated dice roller, you know.

>>14051416
..Consensus?
Like most of the /tg/ games do?

Having a "lottery" system is a sure way to make awful suggestions go through
for example: "You finally got and audience with the Emperor. Wat do?"
>shit in your hand and throw in in his face
>post ends in 5 (the chosen number)

Normally such things would not go through because other players would counter vote them. (though a DM must clearly define the troll posts and ignore them regardless if other players down-vote them or not)


But in this case I can understand. There are so many choices that it might have taken forever to get to consensus.

>>14051440

I'll go by rolls next time. Should I just go with the highest, or what? Since we have a valid character though, we'll go with that for now.

THE HARDHOLDER
Colonel Vega, or “The Colonel”
Male, vintage wear, strong face, commanding eyes, strong body

STATS
Choose one set:
Cool-1 Hard+2 Hot+1 Sharp+1 Weird=0
Cool+1 Hard+2 Hot+1 Sharp+1 Weird-2
Cool-2 Hard+2 Hot=0 Sharp+2 Weird=0
Cool=0 Hard+2 Hot+1 Sharp-1 Weird+1

Also, when you tell me your stat block, pick one stat that sounds the most interesting to highlight.

The stats are:

COOL, meaning cool under fire, ration, clearthinking, calm, calculating, unfazed.

HARD, meaning hard-hearted, violent, aggressive, strong-willed, mean, physically and emotionally strong.

HOT, meaning fucking hot, attractive, subtle, gracious, sexy, beautiful, inspiring, exciting.

SHARP, meaning sharp-witted, clever, alert, smart, perceptive, educated, skilled, trained.

WEIRD, meaning a weirdo, psychic, genius, uncanny, lucky, strange, prophetic, touched.

>>14051474

For now, I'll take what seems to be the consensus, until if and when I decide to try something else.

I say we do the old, he who rolls highest first.

Sadiq
Man
Flight suit (pilot)
Strong face
Cool eyes
Sensual body

Does this sound good?

>>14051490
Cool+1 Hard+2 Hot+1 Sharp+1 Weird-2
And Sharp.

>>14051490
Cool-2 Hard+2 Hot=0 Sharp+2 Weird=0

SHARP

>>14051428
I mostly meant that it would take forever till players get to a choice that everyone deems good enough.
Theoretically we could have entire thread without 0 or 5

>>14051440
That is almost the same.
If someone with an awful idea rolls higher than others, his suggestion goes through.


A very good DM could be able to integrate and use many suggestion for each update rather then taking one and rolling with it. He should choose the most 'sensible' ones or the ones that flow with the general attitude of the players.
(introduce waifu element and everything will blaze up like a sun going super-nova)

Of course I am not telling you how to do your job, MC

>>14051543
Cool -2 is bad, we don't want a guy who loses his shit.

Cool=0 Hard+2 Hot+1 Sharp-1 Weird+1


>>14051505
That is good.

Sometimes though you will find yourself in a situation where the players could argue for hours and not reach a consensus.
Try to identify those situations as soon as possible and call for a vote (use either a time-frame or 'first option to reach #') to get the story going.

Gotta go with
Cool+1 Hard+2 Hot+1 Sharp+1 Weird-2

Also SHARP or COOL confirmed for primary Stat

>>14051538
I'm going with this stat block, and it looks like the consensus is with Sharps for the main stat or whatever.

>>14051490

If op deems it good i would go with the stat set:

Cool+2 Hard-1 Hot=-1 Sharp+1 Weird=+1

I noticed we only get 4-5 plus points... and 0-3 minues points. (i hope this doesnt cause a flamewar)

>>14051674
If MC allows, I'll vote for that one and redact my previous suggestion >>14051603

THE HARDHOLDER
Colonel Vega, or “The Colonel”
Male, vintage wear, strong face, commanding eyes, strong body

STATS
Cool+1 Hard+2 Hot+1 SHARP+1 Weird-2

HARDHOLDER MOVES
You get both:

LEADERSHIP: when your gang fights for you, roll+hard. On a 10+,
hold 3. On a 7-9, hold 1. Over the course of the fight, spend your
hold 1 for 1 to make your gang:
- make a hard advance
- stand strong against a hard advance
- make an organized retreat
- show mercy to their defeated enemies
- fight and die to the last
On a miss, your gang turns on you or tried to hand you over to your enemy.

WEALTH: If your hold is secure and your rule unchallenged, at the
beginning of the session, roll+hard. On a 10+, you have surplus
at hand and available for the needs of the session. On a 7-9, you
have surplus, but chose 1 want. On a miss, or if your hold is
compromised or your rule contested, your hold is in want. The
precise values of your surplus and want depends on your holding,
as follows.

HOLDING
By default, your holding has:
•75-150 souls.
•for gigs, a mix of hunting, crude farming, and scavenging
(surplus: 1-barter, want: hungry).
•a makeshift compound of concrete, sheet metal and rebar. Y
our gang gets +1armor when fighting in its defense.
•an armory of scavenged and makeshift weapons.
•a gang of about 40 violent people (3-harm gang medium unruly 1-armor).

Choose 4:
•your population is large, 200-300 souls. Surplus: +1barter, want: +disease.
•your population is small, 50-60 souls. Want: anxiety instead of want: hungry.
•for gigs, add lucrative raiding. Surplus: +1barter, want:
+reprisals.
•for gigs, add protection tribute. Surplus: +1barter, want:
+obligation.
•for gigs, add a manufactory. Surplus: +1barter, want: +idle.
•for gigs, add a bustling, widely-known market commons.
Surplus: +1barter, want: +idle.
•your gang is large instead of medium, 60 violent people or so.
•your gang is well-disciplined. Drop unruly.
•your armory is sophisticated and extensive. Your gang gets
+1harm.
•your compound is tall, deep and mighty, of stone and iron.
Your gang gets +2armor when fighting in its defense.

And choose 2:
•your population is filthy and unwell. Want: +disease.
•your population is lazy and drug-stupored. Want: +famine.
•your population is decadent and perverse. Surplus: -1barter,
want: savagery.
•your holding owes protection tribute. Surplus: -1barter, want:
+reprisals.
•your gang is small instead of medium, only 10-20 violent
people.
•your gang is a pack of fucking hyenas. Want: savagery.
•your armory is for shit. Your gang gets -1harm.
•your compound is mostly tents, lean-tos and wooden walls.
Your gang gets no armor bonus when fighting to defend it.

>>14051745
>>14051745
•for gigs, add lucrative raiding. Surplus: +1barter, want:
+reprisals.
•your compound is tall, deep and mighty, of stone and iron.
Your gang gets +2armor when fighting in its defense.

Don't know about the others.

>>14051745
Voting for

>your compound is tall, deep and mighty, of stone and iron. Your gang gets +2armor when fighting in its defense.

>>14051745
Large Population, Manufactory, Well-Disciplined Gang, Heavily-Armored Compound

Decadent Population, Savage Gang

•for gigs, add a bustling, widely-known market commons.
Surplus: +1barter, want: +idle.
•your gang is well-disciplined. Drop unruly.
•your armory is sophisticated and extensive. Your gang gets
+1harm.
•your compound is tall, deep and mighty, of stone and iron.
Your gang gets +2armor when fighting in its defense.


•your population is filthy and unwell. Want: +disease. •your gang is small instead of medium, only 10-20 violent
people.

>>14051795

I like the way this sounds, does anyone object?

>>14051795
>Decadent Population, Savage Gang

Can we even do this, since it gives us the same Want: Savagery effect twice? Does that mean our people are, like, extra double super savage?

If we can, I vote for the same options, except with Lucrative Raiding instead a Manufactory, and a Large gang of a Well-Disciplined one (Doubly savage and doubly idle doesn't seem to make sense, nor does doubly savage and well-disciplined).

>>14051795
>>14051838
Cool for me. Forgot we got to pick 4 perks.

>>14051835

Um... i vote for this.

>>14051838
I don't like the negative perks of it.

I want a population which could be a start of new civilization.
Decadence and savagery goes totally against this.

>>14051871
(cont.)

As poster of >>14051835

>•your population is filthy and unwell. Want: +disease.
With the bustling market this can be fixed easily buy trading for medicine and hiring few doctors (or people who have some medical knowledge)
And as for filthiness. Just force them to clean their homes and keep them self as tidy as possible. Do not shit where you eat. And throw away rubbish away from living areas.
•your gang is small instead of medium, only 10-20 violent
people.
We can start a training, recruitment regime as soon as we start to fill the ranks.
Bu even as they stand, they are a small but "elite" force.

How about we take the positive perks from here:
>>14051795

And the negs from here:
>>14051835

total:
(large pop )Surplus: +1barter, want: +disease.
(factory) Surplus: +1barter, want: +idle
(diciplin) Drop unruly
(stronghold) +2armor when fighting in its defense.

•your population is filthy and unwell. Want: +disease. •your gang is small instead of medium, only 10-20 violent
people.

>>14051852
That would mean they are double savage.

We would basically be restricted to horrible raiding for recourses, slaving runs to satisfy the population of their decadence.
There would hardly be progress at all! D:

>>14051982
voting for.
Though large population with so much disease is probably not a good idea.

A big market means that we are going to be a social center of the "new world". We would be in middle of all news, have easier time getting hands on desperately needed resources (medicine), and have a better chance at hiring/recruiting specialists.

>>14052008
>A big market means that we are going to be a social center of the "new world"

Maybe if we were The Diplomat or The Merchant, but we're not. We're The Colonel.

I picture this character as either leading a band of savage, bloodthirsty, and fucked up raiders or a band of cruel, jack-booted, and fucked up raiders.

>>14052084
Doesn't mean we can't have diplomatic advisors.
Also, our stats are mostly in favor for either ruthless approach or diplomatic approach.

Besides, having a powerful, disciplined army would mean that our place is safe and people like safe, so we would get a flow of people willing to settle here.

A savage society would repel everyone else, and if we go too far other "towns" might forget their differences and band against us.

To clarify, yes you can have double savagery, or any other aspect.

Let's get down to it guys, what kind of stronghold do we want here? Something angry and bloodthirsty and fucked up? Do we want hardened killers, disciplined para-military? Do we want progression, and balance, and creation? Is your hold together out of necessity or desire or fear?

Let's start narrowing this shit down, and get some unified responses.

•your population is large, 200-300 souls. Surplus: +1barter, want: +disease.
•for gigs, add a bustling, widely-known market commons.
Surplus: +1barter, want: +idle.
•your gang is well-disciplined. Drop unruly.
•your compound is tall, deep and mighty, of stone and iron.
Your gang gets +2armor when fighting in its defense.

•your population is filthy and unwell. Want: +disease.
•your gang is small instead of medium, only 10-20 violent
people.

>>14052150
Progression, balance, and creation. Desire. Discipline. I think the consensus is that we're trying to rebuild civilization.

>>14052150
>Do we want hardened killers, disciplined para-military?
>Do we want progression, and balance, and creation?
These two.

(Don't see why they would be mutually exclusive.)
If we are going to to balance between the two, I say go more para-military and a bit of progression.

At early on, we would need a significant defence before creating and progressing.
So the stronghold is +2

>>14052161

Will be going with this unless anyone objects and offers a complete alternative before my next post.

So how about Alcatraz is our stronghold?

>>14052242
Is good.

Though I still prefer markets over big population (double sickness means they will drop like flies)

Your holding has:
•272 filthy and unwell souls.
•Gigs: hunting & crude farming, scavenging, and a bustling, widely-known market commons.
(surplus: 3-barter, wants: hungry, idle, x2disease ).
•a compound is tall, deep, and mighty, built of stone and iron.
Your gang gets +2armor when fighting in its defense.
•an armory of scavenged and makeshift weapons.
•a gang of about 18 well-disciplined people (3-harm gang small 1-armor).
GEAR
You get:
• 1 handy weapon
• oddments worth 2-barter
• fashion suitable to your look (you detail)

Handy weapons (choose 1):
• .38 revolver (2-harm close reload loud)
• 9mm (2-harm close loud)
• big knife (2-harm hand)
• sawed-off (3-harm close reload messy)
• machete (3-harm hand messy)
• magnum (3-harm close reload loud)


BARTER
Your holding provides for your day-to-day living, so while you’re
there governing it there’s no need for you to concern yourself
with that.

When you give gifts, here’s what might count as a gift worth
1-barter: a month’s hospitality, including a place to live and meals in
common with others; a night in high luxury & company; any weapon,
gear or fashion not valuable or hi-tech; repair of a piece of hi-tech
gear by your fave savvyhead; a week’s bestowal of the protective
companionship of one of your battlebabes or gunluggers; a month’s
maintenance and repairs for a hi-performance vehicle well-used; a
half-hour’s worth of your undivided attention, in private audience;
or, of course, oddments worth 1-barter.

In times of abundance, you holding’s surplus is yours to spend
personally as you see fit. (Suppose that your citizen’s lives
are the more abundant too, in proportion.) You can see what
1-barter is worth, from the above. For better stuff, be prepared
to make unique arrangements, probably by treating with
another hardholder nearby.

>>14052412
Sawn off.

>>14052440
This.

Our stronghold is newly constructed. Mostly a hodgpodge of dangerously exposed rebar and half formed concrete pillars, but the walls are up, so were safe from raids.

Some people have started calling it 'Rebar'

>>14052412
>• sawed-off (3-harm close reload messy)
This one has the highest harm and accuracy.
Besides that the ammunition (shells) would be easier to acquire and cheaper to buys/make opposed to magnum rounds.
Machete is easy to buy or construct.


First order of business would be to get a list of notable characters in our employ (techies, warriors, merchants, medics, etc...)

then we can start dealing with sickness and the fact that our army is rather small (though incredibly elite)

>>14052517

I second this

<taliang Hermo,
yes captcha, Hermo is very taliangted

>>14052412
>wants: idle
Explain this to me.
What is this "idle" shortage that you are talking about?

>>14052649

I think it means that our people is a bunch of lazy slackers in dire need of some good old fashioned drill sergeants

>>14052649
The things under Wants aren't what you're lacking, it's what happens when you're wanting for other things.

So in hard times, our population becomes sickly, lazy, and hungry.

>>14052666
"If you don't want to do your job, you can get the fuck out of here."

>>14052666
Ah, I see
bunch of sick, lazy fucks?
I agree with drill Sergent idea. We need a productive society!

>>14052649

Wants: hungry, idle, disease.

Hungry: when your people are in want, they don’t have enough
to eat. Getting food becomes their foremost concern.

Idle: when your people are in want, they don’t have anything
useful to do with their time. They occupy themselves with
whatever seems diverting, they act on their various threat
impulses.

Disease: when your people are in want, their collective health
collapses.


Anyway, here is your completed character. Feel free to flesh anything else out about who you are or the hardhold you control. The more ideas you guys offer, the more I can incorporate. I liked the idea of Rebar. Talk for a bit while I make some food and then type up the opening post.

>>14052717

"The reason you sissies are so sick is not becouse you dont have medicin, its not becouse you pansies doesnt have any food. Its becouse you havent ran the track today, but dont you worry your pretty little heads, we will take care of it right now. FORM UP! I WANT DOUBLE PACE!

THE HARDHOLDER

NAME/LOOKS
Colonel Vega, or “The Colonel”
Male, vintage wear, strong face, commanding eyes, strong body

STATS
COOL+1 Hard+2 Hot+1 SHARP+1 Weird-2

The stats are:
COOL, meaning cool under fire, ration, clearthinking, calm, calculating, unfazed.
HARD, meaning hard-hearted, violent, aggressive, strong-willed, mean, physically and emotionally strong.
HOT, meaning fucking hot, attractive, subtle, gracious, sexy, beautiful, inspiring, exciting.
SHARP, meaning sharp-witted, clever, alert, smart, perceptive, educated, skilled, trained.
WEIRD, meaning a weirdo, psychic, genius, uncanny, lucky, strange, prophetic, touched.

HARDHOLDER MOVES
You get both:
LEADERSHIP: when your gang fights for you, roll+hard. On a 10+,
hold 3. On a 7-9, hold 1. Over the course of the fight, spend your
hold 1 for 1 to make your gang:
•make a hard advance
•stand strong against a hard advance
•make an organized retreat
•show mercy to their defeated enemies
•fight and die to the last
On a miss, your gang turns on you or tried to hand you over to your enemy.

WEALTH: If your hold is secure and your rule unchallenged, at the
beginning of the session, roll+hard. On a 10+, you have surplus
at hand and available for the needs of the session. On a 7-9, you
have surplus, but chose 1 want. On a miss, or if your hold is
compromised or your rule contested, your hold is in want. The
precise values of your surplus and want depends on your holding,
as follows.

HOLDING
Your holding has:
•272 filthy and unwell souls.
•Gigs: hunting & crude farming, scavenging, and a bustling, widely-known market commons.
(surplus: 3-barter, wants: hungry, idle, x2disease ).
•a compound is tall, deep, and mighty, built of stone and iron.
Your gang gets +2armor when fighting in its defense.
•an armory of scavenged and makeshift weapons.
•a gang of about 18 well-disciplined people (3-harm gang small 1-armor).

GEAR
•2-barter
•sawed-off (3-harm close reload messy)
•fashion suitable to your look (you still need to detail, vintage wear, I thought?)

we should find a name for our baby
> Lupara aka 'for the wolf'

>>14052817

>Colonel
>vintage wear
>strong body
>strong face
>commanding eyes

>>14052923
A thousand times, this.

It even has "Apocalypse" right in the name.

>>14052861
Baby?
Oh, you mean the saw-off?
It's good.

>>14052767
>Idle: when your people are in want, they don’t have anything
useful to do with their time.
Oh ... this is not really that bad.
We could always find something for them to do.

First things first, they should clean up their homes and the "town" in general. Disease spreads in filthy environments.

Also, we might want to send our soldiers to look for promising candidates to add to our army and have them train them every day till they are as good as others.

Also, we need some map of our surroundings and nearby handholds.

A list of notable characters would be good too.

>>14052949
I actually like "Baby" for the sawn-off, strangely enough.

a bit younger version of this?

>>14052949
As soon as we can we should make a training camp for the boys.

>>14053005
I want some Dragon's Breath.
Badly.

>>14052949

Not to forget that the OP wrote that the walls are not done, they are just half-done pillars and the like. Not good enough and since there are alot of them having a bunch working on those wont disturb the other assignments.

We also have a market, markets need shop keepers, stuff makers and thief catchers all decent jobs we can occupy a few with. anyone who still doesnt have a job can go for some mandatory milita training

A old survivor from the military sounds good.

>>14053005
I kind of want to call it the major (or maybe the commandant), to keep with the military theme.

Feudal society with colonels and generals for the nobility

>>14053088

We should also weed out the more talented young ones and put them on apprenticeship to our Angels, Operators and Savyheads so that we have steady supply of specialists.

>>14053092
>>14053094
Oh
I like these.

>>14053094
there's only one Major.
what about The Marshall?

>>14053177
There is only one major, thats our gun. We are a Colonel

>>14053196
I'm sorry but this is the first thing that come to my mind when I read Major.
Maybe I'm the only one tough

Well, lets organize our troopers first.

All of them will be promoted to corporal, and the few leaders who stand out from the rest in some way will be promoted to sergeant to give the others something to shoot for, metaphorically of course.
They will have the full time job of guarding the city walls and streets aswell as your private residence.

Can we invest in some gear for the lads MC? I say we order the factory to make them some leather jackets with metal plates sown in, like the pic except with pockets. That should be good enough to stop most bullets and afterall we don't have many of these elites so we can't let them die.

>>14053215
What year are we supposed to play in, I wonder.

Maybe by the time the Apocalypse happened there already were cyborgs and shit?
...

Setting could be something like Battle Angel Alita (at the beginning, none of this space battle shit)

>>14053241
I agree on giving better protection for our Elite troops

>>14053243
Sounds to anime to me.
I say we set up our nobility

Hey MC how much of the old world remains?

>>14053308
Eh,
don't really like the idea of nobility
especially in such a small society.

>>14053308
2nd-ed

>>14053339
Dude, most castle states had only a few hundred people. Cities like Rome were the exception.

What should our uniform look like?

>>14053384
Since I doubt that we can make good uniforms. How about we are a roving band of millitary survivors the uniforms are those of our ancestors the uniforms are inherited and patched together if there is any damage.

>>14053339
Since it seems that society has been broken up so much and so much of the populace is already dead. I say that we already have a nobility

>>14053384
Man,
do you really want to pick, lets say, a dozen people or so to be a nobility so that they hardly do shit while the common folk work their asses of to feed them?
This sounds like a high-way to revolt.
Don't expect that our "nobility" is going to be righteous. As soon as someone gets position to power, they become arseholes.

Lets wait till we get more people, expand the handhold to such extent that direct rule becomes hard or get a hold of another handholds.

I want everyone to do their share of work and don't have some over-privileged fucks siphoning on the collective in our society, at least while we can command everything directly.

>>14053413
Sounds epic. But we need somthing to make the men feel like a team, that is the only reason why the police do it...

>>140534424
Welcome to the Apocalypse.

>>14053451
Conquer the tribes and reunite the lands to unite the mystical merican empire?

WAITINGFOROP.jpg

Nobility?
Society?
Outfit coordination?
What do we 'name' a fucking gun?
TITLES?

What is WRONG with you chickenshit softhanded sandbags-on-two-legs!?

You best stop gabbing in the fucking corner about what brand of purse is matchin' your fuckin' heels and get up to the wall for sentry duty, or I swear on God's radioactive teabag I will take you down to the meat grinder and solve this hunger issue my OWN damn self!

You know what matters in a gun? Accuracy, durability, and the availability of ammo! Not what shiny little nickname you got hangin' off its collar!

Does this like a fuckin' game, you useless maggots!? Twenty laps around the compound, all of you, and then you can go shovel some new latrines!

IF I CATCH YOU HAVING GIRL TALK IN -MY- HOLDING AGAIN WHEN THERE IS -WORK- TO BE DONE, mark my words, I will do what your daddy shoulda' done, shove you back up my dick, and TRY AGAIN.

>>14053442
Your not from the uk thats for sure...

Quick lesson: You know how ceaser was stabbed in the back by a load of conniving politicians? Thats what happened to the American constitution. US politics is very similar to that of Rome. (or I’m wrong, lets not start an argument)
Now. In the UK knights are ‘given a peerage’ (made a peer of the realm/country) from the population for there skill, not necessarily in battle, but in modern times, other things like business. Sir Alan Sugar is a Jewish man who owns a company which employs many Britain’s.
In short: Lords can have there own army and suggest changes government legislation (they can’t make any), Duchies have the land and are directly related to the royal family who owns 70% of the land. That’s all they are in the end, land owners.

I am not saying which one I think is best.

>>14053562
U mad?

OP so the world has gone through a new dark age x 2?

>>14053562
nah man, I'm like, hungry, lazy and sick.
Like, x2 sick, man.

>>14053562

>>14053585
Still don't think it is a good idea to spread our power so early in the game.

Though making our Elites die-hard loyal is a must, I agree.

I also say we choose a religion for our people.
Choose a RL that encourages babies.

Or we "Edit" a religion so that it demands that we unite America. Or where ever we are.

Also the head of our religion is the Chaplain no exceptions.

If op doesn't come back I swear by our Lord Sam and the Eagle. That we would need a new OP

>>14053698
I bet there will be Hocus Cult in our handhold which we should deal as soon as possible to avoid trouble later.

>>14053734
He did say he's going to eat.

>>14053758
Hocus cult?

Ok so everyone’s starving... humm. We can't do cattle as they require lots of grazing plants and waste energy moving around and whatever...
Maybe we can barter for some seeds and set up farms all around our holding. We can promote some merchants to organize work groups and pay somone to stop the birds eating the seeds. When we get our harvest we can use it to get the people organised.

Maybe we can get a few horses to plow the ground and later get breeders to breed our army GENETICALLY SUPERIOR STEEDS!!! Death Corps of Kreig here we come!

Now that thats out the way... Our elite troops need an elite gun. I propose a standard rifle be produced by the factory. A shortened 18 inch version of the M1 Garand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbv2onb9K78&feature=related

the gang

>>14053791
Question would our primitive serfs have any idea how to make that?

>>14053698
Why don't we let the crazy religions fight it out. Then we pick the winnar. That way there at least going to fight eachother rather than us.

Our mechanic is Red Green. With the power of duct tape, he can do anything.

>>14053835
Hell there might be a canticle for leibowitz situation a monastery somewhere where we could protect while they gather the information from the holy books of the past

>>14053835
Crazy religions are direct to us and our authority.
We should be careful with them.

I'd prefer more moderate religions over crazy ones.

>>14053895
We can't really choose one untill OP tells us more about the situation

>>14053895
I'd prefer a religioin that syas do your fucking job or you're dead meat

Catholic Church with a high crusader fever

>>14053862
Ok, lets do that.
In the past, monks were the most educated group as they were taught how to read so they could read the bible.

>>14053895
Its the apocalypse chances are their going to be hellbrands...

One man knows what happened, all right.

Because he was the one who did it. And he can't stop.

>>14053619
Sick? You wheezy-lunged plague dog, keep a wet rag over that busted, necrotizing lamprey vagina you call a mouth and go ask the angels for some rubbing alcohol, keep it in your fucking canteen, and scrub your hands before mess.

And don't whine about getting thirsty on patrol, because you're not going -- I don't need you breathing your fucking pox up and down the territory and into some knocked-up feral's cooch.

>>14053698
Religion? Fucking girl talk again -- Look, let's get one thing straight. I am your God. I, the Colonel, the hardholder, AM YOUR GOD.

Let's break that down, shall we? I decide what you do with your lives. I decide when you lay them down. I decide if you eat, when you eat, when you shit, and what direction you wipe.

If you endanger this holding, I will put a bullet in you. If you waste time and energy gabbing over meaningless shit from a world we no longer fucking live in, I will put a bullet in you. If you have a problem with that, I will chuck you out of this rebar and concrete Eden and into Nod, where you will die, because you are idiots.

Now, either praise ME and pass the ammunition, meaning GET BACK TO WORK, or get the fuck out of my Notre Dame, head into the wasteland, and take your chances with the Quran or the Torah or the Necro-fucking-nomicon as a radiation deterrent.

So I guess OP has abandoned us?

>>14054122
Going to get us killed.
Also other guy Op is eating food

>>14054122
Idiot, we want to survive

>Angel Here (Late entry, I know)
>>14054122
"Can't we talk this over before I have to waste more supplies on in-fighting people?"

That's it we need a new op

bump

I refuse to let this thread die. I’ve put too much into it! I’ll be op until he returns. I have no idea how he intended to run this game but from now on any changes you wish to make need dice rolls 1d100. I’ll treat that as success rate so be careful how often you lose.

>>14053241
You decree that the defenders of the town should be properly protected and that everyone must contribute. The people don’t like this, but the don’t have much choice. You manage to get your hands on much of the metal in the territory, there is even a surplus, the factory uses horse leather to construct the ‘flak jackts’. But smelting steel is costly. You consume all the fuel in the town. The cold nights make your people restless. Some demand better treatment openly in the square. Your elites do nothing about this, Your charm stops full scale rioting… for now.

>>14053791
You haven’t the metal nor the fuel to build the rifles. You also need schematics which have to be bartered for. A merchant by the name of Sadiq says he can get ahold of a working copy, but your troops need to help him steal it from another local hardholder by the name of Lars. He also says he can get you all kinds of seeds if you help him to get what he wants.

>>14053862
There are 2 major religions in your area of the wasteland. One is called Haroism and it preaches that the apocalypse is but a new beginning and that we need to let go and return to the sky. Most of its followers are unhinged and like to punish others for not believing. The other religion is called Murq'doc and it preaches that a psychic energy dwells in the blood of others. They roam around the country side drinking the blood of live unfortunate travelers... Not really church material.

Also, there have been reports of strange unearthly noises coming from the hills at night.

Haroism seeems the safest.

>>14054500
Seems strange to me that even though the apacolypse is nigh that that there is new religions out. They should still be slightly related to current religions.

Also Trip

>>14054500

>>14054500
We should focus on food production.
Also let's see if Haroism has monks that can educate our people.

YOUR HOLDING AT PRESENT:
Your holding has:
•265 filthy and unwell souls. (7 died this week of starvation and disease)
•Gigs: hunting & crude farming, scavenging, and a bustling, widely-known market commons including a smithy.
(surplus: 3-barter, wants: hungry, idle, x2disease ).
•a compound is tall, deep, and mighty, built of stone and iron.
Your gang gets +2armor when fighting in its defense.
•your has leather flack jackets, it gets +1 armor when attacking(+1) or defending(+3 max)
•an armory of scavenged and makeshift weapons.(mostly bolt actions and a few ak47s)
•a gang of about 18 well-disciplined people (3-harm gang small 2-armor).
•a small militia of about 10 individuals of varying skill with home made weapons and dubious ideologies (1-harm gang small 0-armor).

GEAR
•2-barter
•sawed-off (3-harm close reload messy)
•fashion suitable to your look (you still need to detail, vintage wear, I thought?)
•brown leather ‘flack jacket’

>>14054608
You need a trip

>>14054412
Angel, I am perfectly aware that supplies are limited. You may be fucking astounded to find I value your opinion, even.

HOWEVER. Our people, MY people, the people you have trusted me to keep safe from this wasteland, are sick. Sick as mangy dogs, and unless you can give me an easy diagnosis and directions to the nearest pharmacy, that is BEYOND us.

If you have better advice on how to keep it from spreading other than cough guards and good hygiene, en-fucking-lighten me, because we don't have the space OR containment to keep up a quarantine.

Is that understood, Doc?

>>14054608
Gvie OP a few more hours if that Jurassic quest can last a few days without it's op than so can this

>>14054608
We should build the most basic dwellings we can build .

Encourage the people to have children

>>14051532
Sadiq demands to see you in person. He is a tall-ish arab looking man with light olive skin and dark swept back hair. He wears a leather flight jacket with turn-down collar and jenes and carries a drop leg holster made from plastic (a rare material) with some sort of auto in it .
He sits down in your waiting room and says in a strong American accent; lets get down to business, i'm here to barter, your help for my supply connections.

Roll 1d100 for reply

>>14054602
>>14054542
Then roll that dice...

>>14054798
There getting on with that just fine... even with the famine there are several pregnant women who go to the market place either to work... or to by 'tonics' from the traveling 'doctors' which blow through. You actually feel kinda sorry for them, but If there that stupid….

>>14054685
Understood sir, however if we can scavenge up a gas mask or two, and maybe some filters, it'd be a big help. Now just like every other person 'round here, I know my way around a rifle; unfortunately that's where it ends. I'd go out looking for a hospital or at least somewhere where we can get some decent sterilizing equipment, but... Well, obviously I'm needed here to take care all these lung-wheezing people.

..... Just a thought, sir...

>>14054850
>There getting
>'...' overload
>there that stupid

You suck, stand-in.

come on guys, just wait for OP to return from his food quest.

It seems like he has some ideas he'd like to share with us (as evidenced by the names of the classes and other stuff)

>>14054963
you can find the rulebook in /rs/

even if OP doesn't come back, I'm really glad he pointed me to this game

>>14054886
Hrm.

Congratulations, angel, you've just had canvasser added to that oh-so impressive fuckin' resume of yours. Look over the newest arrivals we've got, and press 'em to see if any of them passed a clinic or a hospital on their way in to our home sweet home.

If they don't know what a hospital is, describe it to 'em. I'm not gonna spend my time pukin' my guts out just because some yokel in off the crater fields don't know a Red Cross when he sees it.

And get another meal in you when you pass the chow tent, I'm livin' on cordite and cussedness, but who knows what kind of weird fuckin' genius you'll turn out to be when moved up to getting two plates a day.

>>14054959
Hey, fuck you.

If you guys wish to wait... which is just a metaphor for letting the thread die...

>>14055087
We'd rather wait.

Stop trying.

>>14055101
Ok, just explain why.

>>14055140
Because you're a terrible poster and nobody's clambering for you to shit up a perfectly good thread.

>>14055082
"You got it, bossman."

>Does as told, about 15 minutes pass
>(Oshit OP has forsaken us, self-reign taking time)
>Double-time back to Hardholder

"Okay so one of these guys says he's seen a big red cross on a building that's about... Four hours walk from here. And that's about all I can get out of them."

>Beretta 92FS spin

>>14055175
How so?
Really, i cant see what your getting at...

>>14055295
>i
>cant
>your getting

>Great OP
>High interest
>OP leaves
>Thread bumped by roleplayfags

well this is dissapointing

also we should have gone brainer...

>>14055446

seeing as how OP left, beats letting the thread die, right?

>>14055446
Just wait till OP gets back and puts us in our place....

...

hopefully he gets back, he might have slipped on banana peel and broken his neck for all we know.

>>14055355
I don't think you know why you want me to stop. I think that something upset you and now your blaming it on me.

Op has gone, his ideas have gone, he might come back, but waiting around? Thats foolish. Thats going to waste our momentum.

Like it or not, this thread was still going to turn into a game like the one i was trying to make.

Do you want to know what i think?
I think that maybe 60% of tg is made up of artsy fags with bad taste in books and short attention spans. And these people actually have the ability to sniff out somone not of there kind, this i find interesting...

>>14055594

>>14055516
Yep. Long as nobody jacks the narrative before the OP returns.

>>14055594
>Can't spell or write
>"Our" momentum
>Never tripped
>Nobody rolled a single die
>Insults entire board

>>14055783
"You Mad?" poster here.

To be brutally honest, Anon... I'd go and be a stand-in for OP, however I'm an Apocalypse World noob, so I don't think I'd last very long. So... I'll wait for the omniscient OP in the mean time.

>>14055594
>>14055594
Ok, I've been holding off saying anything because you actually made an effort to keep the thread going and that's never a bad thing. However,

>>I think that maybe 60% of tg is made up of artsy fags with bad taste in books and short attention spans. And these people actually have the ability to sniff out somone not of there kind, this i find interesting...

Are you fucking kidding me? You're just -barely- literate and you've got the nerve to criticise other people's taste in books? If you actually cracked open a couple of books yourself maybe you'd stop making grammatical and spelling mistakes of the sort I'd expect from ten year olds.

>>14055783
Yes, 'our' momentum i was posting too ya know:
>>14053241
>>14053442
>>14053562
>>14054122

>>14055783
Ok, srsly now, a few spelling errors, and now
>"cant spell"
Are you claiming to be the oracle of spelling now? Most of the time i chose to ignore the fact that there are many spellings of there because i'm not insecure. I spell things how i think they ought to be spelled, and i use proper english not with, hehe 'american english'.

As for insulting the entire board. This isnt a democracy. You can't vote me out. If i really wanted to insult them i'd say somthing ellse. But they DO have short attention spans.

*Sigh* I don't tripp because i am anonymous

No body rolled a single die. You mean apart from us that 1 other guy didnt roll. Well... at least they responded, its the thought that counts.

Now, have you finnished your butthurt? Because i'm finished with you.

>>14055979
>I spell things how i think they ought to be spelled
Okay I lold.

>>14055979
>The whole internet is just jealous of my knowledge

>>14055979
>i chose to ignore the fact that there are many spellings of there because i'm not insecure

>>14055979
>>bitches about people insulting him for his abysmal spelling

>>As for insulting the entire board. This isnt a democracy. You can't vote me out. If i really wanted to insult them i'd say somthing ellse. But they DO have short attention spans.

You're right, this isn't even remotely related to a democratic process, but guess what? We can insult you as much as we like too.

Protip - I'm not american either and none of the things you've been called out on have anything to do with american vs. british english. They do however have to do with you spelling words completely incorrectly regardless of where you come from.

>>14055915
Your logic is thus:
Spelling mistakes = not allowed to observe lack of attention = arrogance.

Now, do you see the arrogance in that thought process? I’m allowed to make a few spelling mistakes. When you say barley illiterate…

What I was getting at was the stupidity of waiting and the apparent lack of interest in something I took my own time to bring to you. Oh yes, tell me it was shit, tell me waiting is much better, that makes sense… How could it be anything else other than lack of attention.

>>14055979
>>*sigh*

Christian weston chandler?

>>14055979

>OP comes back
>sees thread
>his face

>>14056126
For real, though;

I have no idea what the fuck you just said, nigga.

thanks for ruining yet another decent thread

>>14056126
If you actually read my post, you'll note that I am not addressing any of the posts you made in order to try to continue the thread. Hell, I even said I thought this was a good thing.

What I was addressing was the piece of text I highlighted, claiming, among other things, that /tg/ has bad taste in books. Obviously you don't know what /tg/ does or doesn't read, but the main point is that this is highly ironic coming from someone with a grasp of the english language that is shaky at best.

This lack of reading comprehension, and interchangeable use of 'literate' and 'illiterate' (since apparently they mean the same thing to you), doesn't exactly make me inclined to take back what I said about you being barely literate.

>>14056249
The MC deserted the thread after drumming up interest, it would've been nothing short of miraculous if anything other than bitching happened afterwards.

>>14056279
In defense of
>>14056126
He is referring to "barley illiteracy" which I believe is the tendency of barley to be unable to read or write.

>>14056126
>barley illiterate

I CAN'T READ THIS GRAIN

>>14056337
Holy shit anonymous are you me?

>>14056010
>>14056060
>>14056097
>>14056121

Oh yes we like good spelling, the teacher told us how to do it and we use it to make sure we're part of the 'good club'. Your insecurities are showing.

Fun fact: Do you know what a computer is? No you don’t, because a computer is a term used to describe a type of accountant during the 1800. It was later stolen and applied to machines.
Do you know what a gun is? Nope, its actually called a gone as in; bye, bye. overuse has led to people calling it by its modern name.
http://www.musketeer.ch/blackpowder/handgonne.html

Do you know what a person is? Wrong again. According to blacks law dictionary a person is:
• A natural-person is a human being, capable of attracting rights and duties.
• An artificial person aka ‘juristic’, ‘legal’, ‘fictitious’ is, e.g., a corporation to which the law attributes personality.
Wait… what’s that second bit I hear you say? That’s right, you arnt a person, you HAVE a person. I use the law dictionary for all my definitions of words because the oldest reliable law dictionary is *far* older than the oldest reliable English dictionary… let alone some of those American internet travesties.

Deal with it.

>>14056328
>>14056337

BARLEYMIND

IMAGEMIND

>>14056360

>>14056360
>he thinks ignoring colloquialisms in favor of archaic meanings makes him easier to understand

>>14056360
1. You've dug yourself in so deep you're staring at the Mohorovicic Discontinuity.
2. You (one of several) are shitting up the thread.
3. You are also keeping the thread alive, so kudos for that.

>>14056360
>>Word usage evolves over time therefore anything that could be labelled as a 'mistake' by current usage is actually correct, even if it was never used that way historically.

BLACK IS NOW WHITE. PRAISE JESUS.

>>14054500
Not that it matters at this point, but Apocalypse World is an actual game, with its own system and (kind of, they let you fill this part in as necessary) setting.

I'll upload it in a bit, since I can't seem to find it on mediafire or /rs/.

>>14056360
I didn't think I'd ever see a literary version of the Chewbacca Defense.

>>14056399
>Implying books are supposed to be 'easy'.

I do belive you've activated my trap card.

>>14056479
>Implying I was talking about books

>>14056471
BEHOLD!

Apocalypse World
http://www.mediafire.com/?m9zb594b4sxruyy

>>14056532

Well, of course your right.

Candy wrappers are supposed to be easy to read.

>>14056590
It doesn't matter if it's a book or a candy wrapper, if it's riddled with misspellings and poor grammar, you know it's been written by some mostly illiterate fucker.

>>14056360
Eow eart andgietleas. Sprec rihte ænglisc!

>>14056635

I must commend you on your attention span... although thats not a real candy...

>>14056745
>>that's not real candy
OR
>>that's not a real sweet

FTFY

>>14056567
thanks, but I'm wary of mediafire links to things already on /rs/

>>14056940
Oh hey, that apparently is it. It was named sort of wonky, and I was too lazy to check.

Well now I feel redundant.

>>14056940
>>14056976
Quick, delete your posts and no one will know your shamr!

I guess MC choked on his food or something ...

I'll archive this ....

for historic purposes I guess ...

Well,

Waiting seemed to be a good plan didnt it?

Allow me a moment to now insult you:
- Retard without the comprehension to realize he is wrong, alleged spelling savant, has short attention span, sabotages thread resurrection, most probably smells of sweat.

Well, waiting seemed to be a good plan didnt it?

Allow me a moment to now insult you:
- Retard without the comprehension to realize he is wrong, alleged spelling savant, has short attention span, sabotages thread resurrection, most probably smells of sweat.

OP has some explainan to do

>this thread

No! I STILL FUNCTION ... !

>RISE.