>Alpha Legion infiltrators
Huh...it never occurred to me to do that.

>>13939056
You're the infiltrator. Enjoy your deep cover.

>>13939068
You jest?

OP, you do realise that your whole group up to and including you and the GM are Alpharius?

Look in a mirror.

>>13939056

Secretly check the librarium for the combat records of your team, it may be difficult to explain why you don't ask your librarian to help you do this if you get caught.

Secondly, get an Apothecary on board and get him to give mandatory gene seed inspections to make sure everything is fine, and whilst he's at it, secretly check to see which one appears not to belong. Of course if the infiltrator realises that Gene Seed inspections are occuring, then you might be in for some trouble.

What chapter are you? Some chapters have ways and means of giving their Deathwatch seconded brethen back-up in these matters.
There's a canon character in the back of Rites of Battle who was sent by the Dark Angels to the deathwatch to do exactly what I've just described for one of their battle brothers who had his suspicions about a Chaplain.

>>13939088
>>13939090

I shall immediately perform an interrogation on myself including torture by cattle brand just to make sure.

Actually they're all Omegon.

Could you give a quick brief of the ingame context for this? Were you approached by your watchcaptain or some other higher ranked dude to do this, find some evidence yourself or what? Any other information about the characters that could already give some pointers? like the marines from the same chapter never having heard of the other before or something?

How the hell did your character find out about an alpha legion infiltration plot?

Just keep an eye out for anyone deviating from the group or anyone who seems to be doing their own sub-objectives/keeping artifacts found. Collect evidence like it is an episode of Law and Order: Space Marine, then get everyone to turn on him.

But then if I was the infiltrator I would paint the Hydra on someone's armor just to remove suspicion.

>>13939122
Intel's come from someone higher up, specifically a friend of my marine.
We haven't started the game yet, so no. All the characters are assumed to not have been acquainted for that long.

>>13939118
Don't fucking joke.
Your Marine has been through like decades of psycho indoctrination. And Electrograft tattoos on the brain can implant false persona. You very well COULD be the Alpha Legion Traitor.

Hell, if I were your DM, it's what I'd do.

I think the Gm has told you all to look for the infiltrator.

Storm Wardens. They're less suspicious, and Alpha Legion don't need to hide things like Khornate bloodlust. I'd say the Apothecary.

KILL HIM FOR THE EMPEROR, OP. DO IT NOW.

>>13939111
My character's a custom chapter actually. He's also the only one on the team, apart from the Consecrator, who doesn't have a team mate from the same chapter.
Due to his chapter's... particular disposition I'd say he's a little wary of relying on the others, but still. One good thing is he's built for stealth.

>>13939154
just as planned plan is best plan

>>13939154
Nope, definitely just me. We all have our own class-based objectives. Being a scout, mine is to uncover something.

>>13939145
Oh fuck now I'm paranoid.

>>13939169
You are the infiltrator!

>>13939159
It's either the Apoth or the Librarian.

The only two who would have any hope of finding out. I'm tempted to lean to the Apoth, since masking your mind is easy, cheating on a gene-seed test? Not nearly as easy.

Also
>Grigori Haus
>Apothecary

I admit I lol'd

>>13939169
So. you're the Alpha. Good to know. How to blame another party member for it? beats the shit out of me.

>>13939188
But, in all seriousness, any infiltrator with an ounce of sense will avoid Flesh Tearers or Librarians as disguises. The latter as distrusted maniacs and the latter because they're closely watched for taint, despite their archive access. Techmarine or Apothecary are more likely, though Librarian is still quite possible.

>GM gives me the secret mission of snuffing out the infiltrated Alpha Legion.
>Seems one or more of the team have been informed of the infiltration. Start taking notes and observing suspiciously.
>Paranoia and mistrust encircle the group
>A few sessions later, one of us has been executed and the rest of us are pointing guns at each others heads, ready to fire given the slightest reason.
>Get a vox call
>"Err yeah. There's been a bit of a mix up. You're operating in sector 12-24b-cqb. Alpha Legion infiltrated the Deathwatch operating in sector 12-24b-cq6! Boy is my face red! Sorry for any inconvenience."
>DM's face.

>>13939154
ENTIRE KILLTEAM IS INFILTRATORS

>>13939211
Says the Alpha Legionnaire on the vox.

>>13939219
HYDRA DOMINATUS.

Op, all, some or none of the following information may be true:

1) All of you are Alpha Legion infiltrators, you just don't realise it yet.
2) None of your team are Alpha Legion infiltrators, but the person who gave you this information IS.
3) There is no such thing as an Alpha Legion infiltrator.
4) The Infiltrator is counting upon the group tearing itself apart in confusion and rampant paranoia.
5) The Infiltrator is counting upon the group holding firm against the temptation to tear itself apart in confusion and rampant paranoia.

All of these possibilities are true. Simultaneously.

>>13939169
>custom chapter
>only one without a buddy besides the consecrator
>built for stealth
>wary of relying on others
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The guy who tipped you off? Alpha Legion infiltrator.

THE ENTIRE DEATHWATCH IS MADE OF ALPHA LEGION INFILTRATOOOOOORS.

>>13939169
Wow. Guess who everyone else's first suspect's gonna be.

>>13939239

Except for one guy, who's their patsy.

OR IS HE?

>>13939230
In a typical Alpha Legion scheme, there's one battle brother on the vox.

In an exceptional Alpha Legion scheme, they have the enemy do the vox-warning for them.

In a diasterous Alpha Legion scheme, they send in a warband led by a Khornate maniac and trust his scheming underling to keep them in line and retrieve the artifact through the usage of cats-paws.

Guess which one this won't be. And congratulate your GM on being true to fluff.

OP, you shud jst kil the infiltrator or something it get the group/dm mad but fuck em deal with it asd they say in v.

There are no Alpha Legion infiltrators in your killteam. However, the Alpha Legion wants you to think that there are. The Alpha Legion also wants you to discover that there are not.

The Alpha Legion is counting on you. Death to the enemies of the False Emperor!

>>13939271
There is no such thing as the Alpha Legion. There was no such Primarch as Alpharius or Omegon.
The Inquisition does not know of which chapter you speak.

>>13939271
And while the entire Fortress is busy, they'll be off trolling the Lord Commander by cosplaying as you again. Problem, Marines?

>>13939056

Act like the Traitor. Do vaguely suspicious things to make you look a little off kilter. That way it may make the true traitor(unless it is you) show himself in someway. It could work. Plus it may throw off the GM.

>>13939188
Electrograft guy here, just as this guy says,
>>13939238
Yeah.
The second I see that "custom mary sue stealthy loner chapte" bull as a DM, I'm either A) Electooing your brain to buggery to hide your Alpha Status or B) Giving you false intel FROM the Alphas, so you turn on your team.

Basically, to fuck with you.

>>13939324
Oh dear, I appear to have taken four boltgun clips to the face. And they appear to be torching me with a flamer. Guess I'll be playing an Ultramarine next time, huh.

So from the data we have pre-game, we can deduce that either the informer is telling the truth, the informer is the infiltrator, there are no infiltrators, I'm the infiltrator, or I'm the only one that's not an infiltrator.

What about when it get's down to business? I'm not particularly sure how I can kill one of my own 'team-mates' without the others intervening. Hell, I'm a scout, I'm not sure I can even kill one, especially not a Flesh tearer or a Librarian, I'd be dead meat.

>>13939056

>>13939344
Melta-gun, power fist, krak grenade. Requisition something powerful, and say it's for the broodlord/target/whatever.

And put on some power armour.

>>13939344
Rig melta bombs into claymores, wait till they're asleep and set them up next to your battle brothers beds.

Classic 'nam trick.

>>13939342
Ultramarine? Oh, sweet child, there are no Ultramarines. The Ultramarines were wiped out when they attempted to kill Alpharius Omegon. The "corpse" of Rowboat Girlyman? Alpharius. THAT'S HOW DEEP THIS H'RUD HOLE GOES, SON.

Since then, there has only been Alpha Legion.

>>13939336
Actually, the chapter is very loud and prone to smashing people in the face. It's just that since we have no other similar person in our group, my character is built to be very good at sneaking up to you, and then smashing you in the face. Sorta like Gork. Or maybe Mork, I forget.

>>13939344
Melta Bombs.
Sabotage their backpacks.
Piss in their cool aid.
Spit Acid in their eyes.
OR!!!
Deman each of them submit a small portion of their brain to be eaten. Eat it, gain their memories, and see who's the traitor.
Marines can do that.
It's Canon.

>>13939260
What are you trying to say? Your typing is atrocious.

>>13939385
What if they were mind-wiped prior to prevent such a situation?

>>13939344

Do things the Black Templar way: be be pure, be vigilant, behave. Also have a plan to kill everybody you know at the first sign of impurity, but not a moment before

>>13939378
You also describe him as a Space Marine that doesn't play nice with other Space Marines....
Y'know what that is?
A Dead Marine.

>>13939393
lol u tk him 2da bar|?

USER WILL BE BANNED FOR THIS POST

>>13939397
Where the chunk of brain was removed, place a remote controlled bomb. Anyone smells a bit Hydra...?
Boom.
Headshot.

>>13939400
So I put on my best smiley face for the time being?

>>13939432
Of course you do. You're the infiltrator, and if you don't play nice the others will never believe that you aren't.

>>13939432
...
No, you drop the special snowflake bull.
You're trained to live and die for your squad, to protect them as your defend yourself, because you're all a vast investment of He on Earth's precious Money and the evn more valuable MarineSpunk you've got growing in you.
A Marine who doesn't respect, trust, value, or work with his squad, is one whose training has failed.

>>13939428
Silly Marine, that's the Apothecary's job. Of course, he's the one with the tattoo on his left buttock...

>>13939393
>OP, you shud jst kil the infiltrator or something it get the group/dm mad but fuck em deal with it asd they say in v.

TRANSLATION: OP, you should just kill the infiltrator or something. It will get the group and/or DM mad, but fuck them. "Deal with it." as they say in /v/

>>13939455
True..... in the field of battle.
Just don't expect light conversation.

Ask the Storm Wardens if they know of each other and do the same with the Flesh Tearers. As they have been forwarded to the Deathwatch they should be fairly renowned in their own chapter and so should know each other. If all there stories check out then it's the Consecrator. Unless there is more than one infiltrator, or the infiltrator doesn't know they're the infiltrator, or you are the infiltrator, or there is no infiltrator.

How deep do your DM's plans usually go OP?

>>13939457
Traitor Medic...
Ooooh, that'd be so cruel...
Such a GM thing to do...
Don't trust the medic... Don't get healed... Heh...

There is not such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

A plee of innocence is guilty of wasting my time.

LIVE BY THESE WORDS.

>>13939475
But what if the infiltrator was psycho-indoctrinated by the Alpha Legion as a child and then recruited by the spehss mehreens.

Seriously though I'd put money on the only Alpharius around being the one who relayed the information about the supposed infiltrator in the first place.

>>13939475
>How deep do your DM's plans usually go OP?
I honestly don't know. We've done one game with him before but we had to abort it after two missions.
Also, the Flesh tearers seem to hate each other with a burning passion and so compete in almost everything, from what I've heard.

>>13939489
It makes sense. They're trusted, but not watched to the level of Librarians. They have access to poisons and drugs. You know what that means?

Binary poisons. You could all have poisons in your systems, all very harmless until the infiltrator gives you the other half.

And that's not talking about geneseed...

Now chances are the DM just wanted to play paranoia, and he told everyone this.

In this case, the only way to survive is to strike first. Therefore, wait for your briefing. Once the briefing is over, the first person to mention the first and last mission objectives exclusively in the same sentence is the traitor. Kill the person directly to his left using faulty equipment and bad information.

After he is dead, remove his power armor, weapons and face and assume his identity. While posing as him, summaraily exicute the traitor and the person standing directly to his right.

Then turn to any survivors and reveal that you are actually a daemon who orchestrated the entire incident.

Make your way to the reclusium and strike down any who follow you with what ever weapon is stored in it's center. Be sure to decapitate the Apothecary. (If you are the apothecary via assumed identity, fake it.)

With the remaining kill team dead, you are free to engage in disabling the gellar field and allowing for your untold warp brethren to enter the ship as it makes its way to Macragge. Upon arrival you shall lay waste to the planet before assuming the role of Roboute Guiliame, spiritual liege of the Ultrasmurfs and God Emperor of Ultramar.

With total control of Ultramar, you can then begin on your true plan, opening a chain of pizza shops.

>>13939505
>Flesh tearers seem to hate each other with a burning passion and so compete in almost everything
Cue BroMance.
Or Hard Dickings.
"You're huge!"
"They don't call us Fleshtearers for nothing..."

I say come forward, and tell your brothers that you fear that there is a traitor in the ranks

>>13939598
Ah, yes, the traitor informing his squadmates that they have a traitor in their midst to sow mistrust and paranoia. A classic ploy.

>>13939598
I'm sorry, but there will be an angry-as-fuck-all Flesh tearer with a chainsword standing to my left, and an angry-as-fuck-all Flesh tearer with a chainsword standing to my right.
That is not going to go down well.

The DM probably told everyone in your group the same thing bro.

Send my good will to the consecrator techmarine, a powerful combination I am also pursuing.

>>13939612
Said the Apothecary

Dude, the servo skull is the traitor.

Accuse it to its gay ass face. Watch this big ass anime tear drop thing form on its skull signifying its embarassment and surprise.

Let the chase begin.

>>13939489
It makes sense. They're trusted, but not watched to the level of Librarians. They have access to poisons and drugs. You know what that means?

Binary poisons. You could all have poisons in your systems, all very harmless until the infiltrator gives you the other half.

And that's not talking about geneseed...

this plot would be cool as hell if your kill-team was undercover in an anime highschool.

>>13939689
I laughed at the mental image of a seven-foot-tall man in power armor attempting to act and speak like a stereotypical Japanese schoolgirl. And failing miserably.

>>13939680
I will make a mental note to not allow the Apothecary to touch me or any of my drinks.

Question: don't people who ask highly specific questions about their campaign here ever worry that the other players might also be on /tg/? Right now an apothecary somewhere could be going 'fuck, fuck, am I the infiltrator? Was that a few bars of All Along the Watchtower I just heard?'

Captcha: soldier. ffight. That's your advice, then.

>>13939755
I'm certain only one of the people who're involved browse 4chan. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't browse /tg/ that much.

>>13939709
It would work perfectly if they were at Cromartie High School.

OP, the GM is trying to be Tzeentch here. It doesn't matter who is the traitor or not because the GM hasn't made up his mind yet. You will never be right no matter how well reasoned your accusation becomes. This is all a meta-plot by the DM to assert some sort of superiority over you and slap you in the face with his cock while saying 'haha im smrtr den u lololololol'.

Just play the game as you normally would and enjoy the ride.

>>13939774
You fool that's what they want you to think. YOUR MISSION IS NOW COMPROMISED.

A potential idea came to me.
What if I try to fool the infiltrator into thinking someone ELSE is the person searching for him?

kill em all

>>13939849
Zeal is its own excuse. The souls of the pure stand at His right hand.

>>13939056
You. It's you. You're the infiltrator.
I say we call down exterminatus.
It's the only way to be sure.

everyone but you is infiltrator.

or everyone is an infiltrator

HYDRA DOMINATUS

>>13939260
:D:D:D:D:D:D

Dammit /tg/, what have you done to me.

Now I'm gonna be rigging everyone's backpack with meltabombs, including my own.

This looks like the biggest piece of Legion trolling since the time they tripped Armageddon's fire alarm before the Third War.

>>13939849
OP, do this.

Not only will it be in character, it will be in-setting. A total TPK that was all due to a single GM asshat-ploy.

DO IT. KILL THEM ALL. THEN KILL YOURSELF. NOT ONE OF YOU CAN BE TRUSTED, MUCH LESS YOURSELF!

IT'LL BE HILARIOUS! DO IT! Kill your party off one by one, then kill yourself. In doing so, save the Imperium.

>>13940203
Hopefully we'll pass through a promethium plant during our travels. Should make things a bit easier.

>>13939056

He's the guy who answers "Alpharius" when you ask what his name is.

>>13940291
What if it's Omegon?

>>13940265
If I were you, I would attempt to break up the party into small groups, then kill them off one by one while they're unawares.

You'll be able to get a free point-blank head-shot or full-auto burst on someone, depending on your character's load-out. If there's one other person, you can proceed to kill them (if you're lucky). Make sure you can keep them from talking through their vox casters for help from the other party members (unless you want to lead them to ANOTHER trap, like said promethium refinery, where there's a giant car-sized tank of promethium suspended from the ceiling, waiting to drop when someone triggers a tripwire upon entering the room, then from which you can load your EXPLOSIVE bolt shells into, killing you all and preserving peace for the Imperium for another day).

>>13940345
The entirety of the Alpha Legion is Alpharius

Progression of this thread:
>WHO'S THE TRAITOR, GUISE?!
>You're the traitor.
>And then OP was traitor. Then everybody was traitor.
>No one is safe. No one is loyal. All are heretics.
>Kill everyone and everything to be sure.
>suggestions for TPK plans
I love /tg/.

>>13940345
He'll still answer Alpharius.

>>13940389
There's an idea.
If you're armed with a weapon of Pen10 at least (meltagun available to you?), and get your GM to buff all the plasma and melta weapons by 1d10 (as they should be). Then you can kill one person out of two unawares (so no Dodge or vox call). If you can get a lascannon and do the same, do so. It'll be easier to kill the next person then.
If you don't have access to those, then just use a melta-bomb slapped on their backpack, or a full-auto burst at point-blank from behind (where RoB has confirmed that the AP is weaker on power armor). Then proceed to do your best to silence the next person and kill them.
Run back to the other team, screaming bloody murder about enemies.
Get apothecary to take gene-seed back with you quickly, and other two to carry-on with mission. Proceed to shoot apothecary when he's collecting the seed.
Go back and finish the other two.
If you can complete a TPK-then-suicide, regardless of the plan, I'll be massively impressed. A Scout taking on five full-armored marines would be mighty awesome.

its already too late anyway.

You got infiltrated by the alpha legion nothing you can do about it anymore. everything is compromised. you already have aids. better end it quick.

>>13940486
As awesome as that plan'll be, the other two marines won't leave the scout and Apoc on their own; they'll follow the others to kill what killed their squaddies.

>>13940537
Rig the bodies with melta bombs.

>>13940486
I'm a kill-marine with a assault shotgun and some other stuff.

I'll probably need to train up my deception skills and the other stuff I get from the Kill-marine perks...

>>13940596
Remember that Deceive is not always needed besides your goal: [kill everyone (then self)].

If you can kill your the other party members without the other people knowing (both IC and on the meta-scale), then you're one step closer to keeping your purity.

Tell no one else. Take matters into your own hands. The Emperor was acting through your GM. Now, the Emperor through /tg/.

Kill your teammates. By any and all means possible.

>>13940688
I honestly don't grasp the concept of not letting them catch on to my murders on the meta-scale. Surely that's ridiculously hard to do?

>>13940702
If you're playing over IRC, and your GM's not a dick for letting you de-rail the game for your own agenda, then it's not hard, as when the party splits up, everyone will be in separate rooms.

Then the GM can explicitly tell the players you ganked not to spread the tips to the other players.

Granted, you could do that (get GM to tell dead players not to squeal) on the normal tabletop, but it's harder since everyone's in the same place: the gaming table.

>>13940731
Real table I'm afraid.

This'll be one hell of a roller-coaster ride

>>13940486
Alternatively, OP could get a lascannon for a plan.
OP could get a lascannon, go "scout" ahead of the party. Only then, OP would loop back around the party proper, brace his lascannon (since I'm not sure if he gets use of Bulging Biceps without his power armor), then kill at least one person from behind at "short" range with the lascannon (which is 150m I think) from cover.
If the party is in a wide open area with no cover to run to, all the better to kill them with in successive turns with the lascannon.

/tg/
ruining campaigns since: forever

>>13940934
That's what you get when you mention "Alpha Legion infiltrators", man. They could be you! They could be him! They could be me and I won't even know it yet until somebody says "the termagant carapaces are an unusual shade of puce", whereupon psychodoctrination and noetic rune-orders will suddenly flare to life! IT COULD BE HALF THE DAMNED SEGMENTUM.

The only way to be certain? Kill everybody; the God-Emperor will know his own. Of course, that could be the Alpha Legion's plan all along, but..better a million innocents die than one heretic survive, yes?

>>13941001

A white dog barks as the Iltho blossoms bloom and the sun sets.

Welcome back, Brother...

>>13941161
Oh, hello Alpharius. How goes your masquerading as the God-Emperor on the Golden Throne?

HYDRA DOMINATUS.

>>13941656

Man, a good Alpha Marine quest thread would be badass.

ANON, YOU MUST INFILTRATE A MARINE CHAPTER AND USE IT TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL. THEY MAY BE OTHER INFILTRATORS, THERE MAY NOT BE.

GO.

>>13941675
Rather, there simultaneously are and are-not fellow infiltrators at work. Alpha Legion infiltrators exist in a quantum state.

>>13941675
Hell, rules for Alpha Legion in Deathwatch would be badass. Bonuses to decieve, forbidden lore?

>>13941804

Schrodinger's Legion?

Is their heraldry a cat in a box?

>>13941880
They favor the usage of deadly, radioactive poisons.

>>13941922
...sometimes.

>>13941880
>>13941922
>>13941930
May I shake your hands through the Internet?

>>13941956
Yes, but you have to get this handy-dandy tattoo first.

So did anyone else think the reason for the Alpha Legions turn pretty fucking retarded? You're going to trust the word of some shadowy alien cabal, who have all but admitted they make a living off of manipulating galactic events, and just assume that Horus is going to win either way?

What if someone, say some legion well versed in subtefuge and infiltratition, knocked Horus out of the game before the Heresy even got started, therefore denying the rebels any really effective leadership, and making them be outnumbered something like 11-7, legion wise. What then, shadowy alien cabal?

>>13942024
Does the absence of a picture of a tattoo in your post mean that your quantum cat is alive?

>>13942047
I miss their old Index Astartes fluff where they joined Horus mostly for an excuse to fight the smurfs.

>>13942054
Maybe.

>>13942047
It's never made clear if the Alpha Legion was actually doing it for the stated reasons, or if they felt Chaos was the only way to succeed. They felt the Imperium wouldn't work as stated, for example, and placed a high emphasis on understanding the reasons for their fighting...

>>13942079

Yeah that and that whole "Taking a extremly well defended city without a single death" was pretty cool. Though IIRC, it was more for the chance to measure themselves against Astrates in general, not just the smurfs, (though im sure that played a part.)

>>13941861
Let's do this, motherfuckers. Based on the Make-A-Chapter tables...

Characteristic Modifiers? Shit. Inclined to say a 91-00 and pull up something like +5 Int +5 Fel, but you could make a case for Will or Per too.

Solo Mode Abilities? 31-45, for Decieve and Concealment.

Squad Mode Attack Pattern? Tactical Finesse seems like the best fit with the Alpha Legion's emphasis on flowing, versatile combat practices.

Defensive Stances? Swift Advance for the same reasons. Alpha Legion wars are wars of MOVEMENT.

Specialty Restrictions...98-00. "Something truly unusual". It's a Chaos Legion. It has no real Companies left. There are no Scouts. There are only ten thousand warbands, each one the head of a many-fanged beast.

Special Equipment? As an old Traitor Legion, you could make a case for Rare Weaponry. Leftover stuff from the Heresy, plus all kinds of terrible daemon-weapons.

Honour Thy Wargear seems like the best fit for Alpha Legion, considering their emphasis on stealth and tactical supremacy.

ta-da?

>>13942111
For armour tables, switch Mk 5 and 7 for starters. The Legion as I see it would keep their old armour as much as they can, which would be mostly Heresy era, as they're less "loot steal destroy", and keep hidden bases with (presumably) repair facilities.

As for characteristics, they'd have high Int, Ag, and maybe Fel? Probably a good understanding of technology and tactics too. Paranoid as a trait?

>>13942047
Just because the Alpha Legion said that they would go along with the cabal doesn't mean they had any real plans to. I think it's just as likely they turned because they thought the 41st millenia with all its grimdark was better than death.

>>13942185
Or, by Legion, a slow death for humanity was better than a quick extinction and victory for the species of the Cabal.

Suffer not the alien and all that.

The Cabal probably had no idea what it was doing anyway, considering that it was made of misfits and outcasts who'd be purged by their own kind if they were found.

>>13942177
Yeah, so rejig the table to something like...
1: MkVII Aquila
2: MkVI Corvus
3-5: MkIV Maximus
6-9: MkV Heresy
10: MkII Crusade

>>13942248
Replace Mk II with Mk III or Mk VIII, as we've seen art of Alpha Legionaries with the latter. They came after Mk II was phased out of production, so that'd be comparatively rare except for looted pieces and Mk 8 is more common on the battlefield.

>>13942289
Fair enough. MkVI-VIII would come either from looting or from renegades. I'd prefer to go III over VIII, though.

>>13942297
Nah, as Alpha Legion wouldn't really have as many opportunities or reason to loot Mk III as a normal traitor legion. They're mostly splinter cells deep in the Imperium, with some who got sidetracked and ended up the Eye with the rest.

How about replace Assault Marine chainsword starting gear with a chainaxe? That's the primary pre-Heresy assault squad weapon, after all...

>>13942324
But they would have been issued MkIII Iron back during the Heresy. Hence me thinking it a better fit than MkVIII errant, which is rather uncommon even in the Imperium.

I'd say let assault mehreens choose between chainsword or chainaxe. Either is appropriate.

>>13942351
Issued MkIII Iron back BEFORE the Heresy, my correction.

>>13942351
Not really, seeing as manufacture of it had more or less stopped. If anything, they'd be given Mk 5 or 4 by fluff pieces for the armour. It's a detail, and they're Traitor Marines: if Brother Alpharius Kitteneater Murderus wants Mk VIII, he's probably going to be able to get it somewhere.

Alpha Legion work well with Deathwatch; they're well-organized, follow orders from above, and conduct convert operations in small groups.

Cell leader for watch-captain?

>>13942405
Remember that the Legions had been fighting before their Primarchs were found. The XXth didn't just spring out of nowhere; it had been fighting through the Crusade before Alpharius Omegon was/were found. They'd have some Crusade-era stocks, albeit not as much as earlier-"christened" Legions.

The Deathwatch is just the Alpha Legion's feeder program.

>>13942502
...My GOD.

Whoever told you about the Alpha Legionaire Infiltrator, is the Infiltrator.

It follows the "he who smelt it dealt it" rule.

>>13942472
Aha! The Alpha Legion wasn't created until the very end of the Crusade, shortly before the discovery of Alpharius! That means any older Marks or weapons they'd had at the time of the heresy would have been from stockpiles, as manufacture had canonically stopped!

So...Any Legion-specific rules?

>>13939211
Archive this fucking thread, right now.

>>13939056
>DM has alerted me and only me that an Alpha Legion infiltrator is amongst our ranks

>>13940416
>Progression of this thread:
>>WHO'S THE TRAITOR, GUISE?!
>>You're the traitor.
>>And then OP was traitor. Then everybody was traitor.
>>No one is safe. No one is loyal. All are heretics.
>>Kill everyone and everything to be sure.
>>suggestions for TPK plans
>I love /tg/.

If the congress and senate of America were like /tg/ for just one day, it would either destroy Western civilisation, or save it.

>>13945881
Done
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Alpha+legion,+Deathwatch,+infiltrato
r,+Alpharius+Omegon

Vote this shit up, guys.

My name is Alpharius Omegon and I will have my revenge!

>>13945962
FUCKING NUMBERS.

>>13945962
>Like openin' a can o' Boston Baked Beans!

Wait, does the Infiltrator know they're an Infiltrator? I don't see how it'd work if, hypothetically, OP was the infiltrator but didn't know it.

>>13946132
Infiltrator has been told they are an infiltrator, yes.

>>13946135
Ah right. This'd never work in my online group, everyone else would just ask outside of the group chat.

Are you kidding me, brother OP?

It's the witch. You think it might be the witch? It's the witch.

It's ALWAYS the witch. Burn him.

What's going on here? This is quite silly.

>>13946184
>Implying that people won't shoot the witch by default. I'd hope your GM is more of a dick than that.

fluffwise I'd say that a libby would be unlikely since they would draw a lot of attention (and depending on how he portrays the AL it would be kinda obvious when he uses his powers)
not sure if they had tech marines pre-heresy, if not hes out, if so its possible but I'd still think unlikely (nothing to back up that claim tho)
flesh tearers are nuts, if one is not acting nuts in combat SHOOT HIM IN THE FUCKING HEAD HES THE TRAITOR
if both are sutibaly crazy then keep a VERY close eye on the apocathary

in fact posing as an apocathary would be the most use to the AL as they could gain access to new gene seed to replenish their ranks so grab the most trustworthy mate you can and jump him at the very first sign of trouble.

also just look out for ppl who are a little too eager to call in an exterminutus etc

>>13946267
Yep, but not just for lolgeneseed. They're trusted figures who won't be watched for warp taint. Especially as the infiltrator may well be a Sorcerer himself.

Techmarines are preheresy, and Legionaries would have decent understanding of how to fix things

have you considered the one who tipped you off if the infiltrator and he wants to sow confusion and whatnot among you to keep all eyes of him?

>>13946315
>And then Games Master was Infiltrator
>Then everyone was Infiltrator

Read the OP.

>>13946267
>grab a buddy
Despite there being logically a 1/5 chance of grabbing the infiltrator (Assuming it isn't the guy who told you, you, or everyone) there is in fact a 1/1 chance of you being buddies with the infiltrator looking for the infiltrator

Everyone is suspect. Kill them all and let the emperor sort them out.

Konrad Kurze don't know shit about scaring people. Alpharius and Omegon are fucking boss.

Also, be wary of any DMPCs, or attached NPCs.

>>13946348
>implying the GM is not an Alpha Legion infiltrator. And/or that the GM is not lying.

>>13947252
Alpha Legion misdirection. Probably just one of their agents starting a game of Chinese whispers

The Alpha Legionarre is you OP, you must wipe out the rest of your party just to spite your GM (or just as planned?) Is your GM a chaos god by any chance?

>>13947292
IRL, he loves Tzeentch.
Or does he?