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>>13816311
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-12380763
>Redwall author Brian Jacques dies aged 71

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-12380763

http://www.locusmag.com/News/2011/02/brian-jacques-1939-2011/


Well fuck, mouseguard redwall conversion thread?

No vermin allowed though.

Noooooo my childhood :(
I should read those books again, Redwall was the shit

>>13816299
>>13816318

.....My Childhood.

>>13816323

I would support this shit.

That or IT'S HOMEBREW TIME

>>13816338
all I can say to that is...

Logalogalogalog.

Man, owls are awesome.

>>13816323
>>13816338
Leman Russ was going one for WFRP 2e and D&D 3.5e

>Brian Jacques dead
>Don't cry
>Don't cry
>Don't you fucking cr-
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>13816311
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Jacques

FUCKING NO!
That hurts my soul. I fucking loved those books.

>>13816299

And at the exact moment I read this...

.. I was hungry.

MANLY TEARS SHED. MANY MANLY TEARS

I never actually read any of the Redwall books. Did read Castaways of the Flying Dutchman...what the fuck? No one told me there were sequels!

I remember those.... so much. Marlfox. Taggerung. Pearls of Lutra. God.

Don't cry don't cry don't cry don't cry

>>13816299
So sad...
>>13816356
He completed the races for 3.5, I have them saved. I shall be putting forth what he has proposed.

Birds:

Sparrows:
~ +2 Dexterity, -2 Constitution
~ Small: As a Small creature, a Sparrow gains a +1 size bonus to Armor Class, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, and a +4 size bonus on Hide checks, but she uses smaller weapons than Medium creatures use, and her lifting and carrying limits are three-quarters of those of a Medium character.
~ Sparrow land speed is 10 ft.
~ Sparrow Fly speed is 40 ft. (good)
~ Sparrows cannot use weapons, but their sharp talons make up for the disparity; Sparrows have a 1d4 Talon attack
~ Sparrows can never fly with anything more than a Light Load
~ +0 LA


Owls:
~ +4 Intelligence, +4 Wisdom, -2 Con
~ Large: As a Large creature, an Owl gains a -1 size penalty to Armor Class, a -1 size penalty on attack rolls, and a -4 size penalty on Hide checks, but she uses larger weapons than Medium creatures use, receives a +4 bonus to Grapple checks, and her lifting and carrying limits are twice those of a Medium character.
~ Owl land speed is 20 ft.
~ Owl Fly speed is 60 ft. (average)
~ Low-light Vision 120ft.
~ +8 to Listen and +8 to Spot checks
~ +10 to Move Silently checks made during flight
~ Owls cannot use weapons, but their sharp talons make up for the disparity; Owls have a 1d8 Talon attack
~ Owls can never fly with anything more than a Light Load
~ +3 LA

:(

>>13816394
Gentlecritters
Mouse:
~ Small: As a Small creature, a Mouse gains a +1 size bonus to Armor Class, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, and a +4 size bonus on Hide checks, but she uses smaller weapons than Medium creatures use, and her lifting and carrying limits are three-quarters of those of a Medium character.
~ Mouse speed is 20 ft.
~ +2 to Listen and Move Silently checks
~ +1 bonus to all saving throws
~ 4 extra skill points at 1st level and 1 extra skill point at each additional level.
~ Once per day, a Mouse may re-roll one dice roll (skill, attack, damage, save, etc. any dice may be re-rolled) of the player's choice, but they must accept the second roll.
~ +0 LA

Mole:
~ +2 Constitution, +2 Wisdom, -2 Charisma
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Moles have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Mole land speed is 20 ft.
~ Burrow speed 5 ft.
~ +2 to Craft and +2 to Profession checks
~ -4 to Climb, -4 to Jump, -4 to Search, -4 to Spot, and -4 to Swim checks
~ Blindsense 30ft.
~ Tremorsense 60ft.
~ Racial Illiteracy: Moles are a race who do not automatically know how to read and write. A Mole may spend 2 skill points to gain the ability to read and write all languages he is able to speak; but it must be noted that, as a rule, most Moles never bother with it; its not that they are incapable, it's just that it's not in their culture to do so.
~ +0 LA

>>13816407
Shrew:
~ +2 Dexterity, -2 Charisma, -2 Wisdom
~ Small: As a Small creature, a Shrew gains a +1 size bonus to Armor Class, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, and a +4 size bonus on Hide checks, but she uses smaller weapons than Medium creatures use, and her lifting and carrying limits are three-quarters of those of a Medium character.
~ Shrew land speed is 20 ft.
~ +2 to Listen, +2 to Profession (Sailor) checks
~ +6 to Swim checks
~ All Aid Another attempts in which a Shrew is participating receive a +1 bonus.
~ Shrews receive the Martial Weapon Proficiency feat for the rapier as a bonus feat.
~ +0 LA

Squirrel:
~ +2 Dexterity
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Squirrels have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Squirrel land speed is 30 ft.
~ Squirrel climb speed is 20 ft.
~ +2 to Balance, +2 to Jump, and +2 to Tumble checks
~ +0 LA

Hedgehog:
~ +2 Constitution, -2 Strength
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Hedgehogs have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Hedgehog speed is 20ft
~ +4 to Listen Checks
~ -2 to Search and Spot checks
~ -6 to all Disguise checks, their bushy spine covered backs are awfully hard to disguise
~ +1 Natural Armor Bonus
~ Anyone grappling a Hedgehog takes 1d4 points of damage a round in addition to any other damage the Hedgehog may be dealing. If a Hedgehog is pinned, they do not take the -4 penalty to AC.
~ +0 LA
HOW COULD YOU DIE ON ME?!

>>13816404

>>13816338
>>13816323
I have a copy of the Mouseguard roleplaying game. I've never read it before today, but if anyone else is up for it I'd help as best I can.

>>13816353 here
Bravo, /tg/, for not rising to my wee bit of trolling. You're made of sterner stuff than I thought.

So I'll do what I can to help cheer you up, /tg/. For starters, Mr. Jacques may be dead but he left behind an extensive bibliography for the appreciation of generations yet to live. Also, James Gurney is still alive, so it's not like childhood is meaningless as a concept now.

>>13816418
Vole:
~ Small: As a Small creature, a Vole gains a +1 size bonus to Armor Class, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, and a +4 size bonus on Hide checks, but she uses smaller weapons than Medium creatures use, and her lifting and carrying limits are three-quarters of those of a Medium character.
~ Vole speed is 20 ft.
~ +4 to Swim checks
~ +1 bonus to all saving throws
~ +0 LA

Rabbits:
~ +2 Dexterity, -2 Wisdom
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Rabbits have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Rabbit land speed is 40 ft.
~ Low-light Vision 60ft.
~ +4 to Jump checks
~ +0 LA

Hare:
~ +2 Dexterity, +2 Charisma, -2 Wisdom
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Hares have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Hare land speed is 40 ft.
~ Low-light Vision 60ft.
~ +6 to Jump checks
~ +2 to Hide and +2 to Survival checks
~ Hares with PC classes receive Simple Weapon Proficiency and Martial Weapon Proficiency as bonus feats
~ +1 LA

:(


he was such a huge part of my childhood

>>13816422
Eh I'll be sad once Ray Bradbury di...

well fuck.. guess it's time to end all of creation.

>>13816422
Dinotopia was a phenomenal read as a child.
>>13816430
Otter:
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Otters have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Otter land speed is 30 ft.
~ Otter swim speed is 20 ft.
~ +2 to Escape Artist and +2 to Profession (Sailor) checks
~ Otters automatically receive Weapon Focus for all weapons they are proficient with at level 1 as bonus feats; after which Weapon Focus must be taken individually.
~ +1 LA

Badger:
~ +6 Strength, +4 Constitution, +2 Wisdom, -2 Dexterity
~ Large: As a Large creature, a Badger gains a -1 size penalty to Armor Class, a -1 size penalty on attack rolls, and a -4 size penalty on Hide checks, but she uses larger weapons than Medium creatures use, receives a +4 bonus to Grapple checks, and her lifting and carrying limits are twice those of a Medium character.
~ Badger speed is 30 ft.
~ Low-light Vision 60ft.
~ +4 to Diplomacy and +4 to Intimidate checks
~ Rage (Ex): A badger that has lost at least half of their HP in combat flies into a berserk rage on its next turn, attacking implacably until either it or its opponent is dead. It gains +4 to Strength, +4 to Constitution, and -2 to Armor Class. The Badger cannot end its rage voluntarily.
~ +4 LA

>>13816440
Vermin:

Rats:
~ -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Rats have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Rat speed is 30 ft.
~ Low-light Vision 60ft.
~ +2 to Hide and +2 to Move Silently check
~ -4 to Diplomacy checks
~ Rats receive Simple Weapon Proficiency as a bonus feat
~ +0 LA

Searats: as Rats except as follows
~ +2 Dexterity, -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma
~ +2 to Balance, +2 to Move Silently, +2 to Profession (Sailor) and +2 to Use Rope checks
~ +4 to Swim checks
~ +0 LA

Weasels:
~ +2 Dexterity
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Weasels have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Weasel speed is 30 ft.
~ Low-light Vision 60ft.
~ +4 to Move Silently checks
~ Weasels have a 1d6 Bite attack
~ Weasels receive Improved Grapple as a bonus feat, whether or not they meet the prerequisites.
~ +1 LA

Ferrets:
~ +2 Strength, +2 Dexterity
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Ferrets have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Ferret speed is 30 ft.
~ Low-light Vision 60ft.
~ +2 to Intimidate checks
~ +4 to Move Silently checks
~ Ferrets have a 1d6 Bite attack
~ +2 LA

But...damn. I read his stuff as a kid. Used to love those books.

Wish I was more eloquent. At least he'll be remembered, right?

Noooooo :(

Anyone else curious about a 40k/redwall crossover now?

>>13816445
Stoats:
~ +2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence
~ Medium: As Medium creatures, Stoats have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
~ Stoat speed is 30 ft.
~ Low-light Vision 60ft.
~ +2 to Listen and +2 to Spot checks
~ +4 to Move Silently checks
~ Stoats have a 1d6 Bite attack
~ +2 LA

Wildcats:
~ +2 Strength, +6 Dexterity, + 2 Intelligence, -2 Wisdom
~ Large: As a Large creature, a Wildcat gains a -1 size penalty to Armor Class, a -1 size penalty on attack rolls, and a -4 size penalty on Hide checks, but she uses larger weapons than Medium creatures use, receives a +4 bonus to Grapple checks, and her lifting and carrying limits are twice those of a Medium character.
~ Wildcat speed is 40 ft.
~ Wildcat Climb speed is 10 ft.
~ Low-light Vision 60ft.
~ +8 to Balance, +8 to Jump, and +8 to Move Silently checks
~ -4 to Swim checks
~ Wildcats have a 1d8 Bite attack
~ +4 LA

Foxes:
~ +2 Strength, +2 Dexterity, +4 Intelligence, +4 Wisdom
~ Large: As a Large creature, a Fox gains a -1 size penalty to Armor Class, a -1 size penalty on attack rolls, and a -4 size penalty on Hide checks, but she uses larger weapons than Medium creatures use, receives a +4 bonus to Grapple checks, and her lifting and carrying limits are twice those of a Medium character.
~ Fox speed is 40 ft.
~ Low-light Vision 60ft.
~ 4 extra skill points at 1st level and 1 extra skill point at each additional level.
~ Foxes have a 1d8 Bite attack
~ +3 LA

While I've not read his stuff since I was a young kid I did love those books back then certainly.

>>13816422
I just reread that last month for nostalgia.
manlytears.jpg

...

For...

FOR REDWAAAAAAAAALL!!!!

>>13816455
Not really, no. Grimdark as Redwall was at times, and as much as I love 40k, some things shouldn't be put together. Like chocolate and jalepeno.

>>13816464
Fuck it, I'm making that into a spray.

>>13816447
Well, his books will, at least. I mean, this is one of those cases where the monument is more important than the man, really. He put out a lot of books that became a huge chunk of a lot of people's childhoods, but it's not like he actually matters now that his work is done.

He is not Carl Sagan - his work does not vanish if you forget about him. On a related note: REMEMBER CARL SAGAN.

Well, damn. I'll have to hold a verbosely-described feast in his honor sometime.

>>13816422
>>13816323
>>13816421

This has hit me on what happens to be a horrible day of college. I have not read all of the novels, but I was impressed by them.

I am currently reading through the Mouse Guard RPG again. I'd like to work on this. Currently, I've been playing Haven and Hearth in my spare time. That ends until Redwall RPG is done. Not even greek lettering in captcha can stop me from making this most sacred vow!

For the Abby!

For Jacques!

rolled 64 = 64

>>13816370
he did the redwall series first.

the two are unrelated.
redwall is still quite good however, especially if you can imagine smells very well.

because his books, with their vivid descriptions of feasts are almost enough to turn a regular human vegitarian...

>>13816491
I lol'd, but only because of how many of his books I read.

Can't believe he's dead. Does anyone know if he was working on a book when he died? If so, someone else might be able to finish it from his notes.

>>13816507
fuck I can't read them without something food related, he was the best food porn writer ever.

>>13816483
>REMEMBER CARL SAGAN
the guy from Street figheter with the eye-patch?

>>13816507 because his books, with their vivid descriptions of feasts are almost enough to turn a regular human vegitarian...

Wait... they.. they never ate meat?

I honestly never noticed that. Are you sure? Even Otters?

>>13816517
This.

We should probably let /ck/ know about this too.

>Go boil your head, rat!

These are the books that got me reading in the first place. Reading in the library at school introduced me to nerdy people. Those nerdy people brought me intot he world of Friednly Local Game shops.

Brian Jacques essentially made me the person I am today.

I'm going to go cry now.

>>13816521

>>13816464
EULALIA!

Godammit ;_;

His later books were kind of eh, but oh god my childhood.

also I'd totally play Redwall d20.

>>13816524

Fish they would eat.

But no meat. Mostly glazed chestnuts and shit.

rolled 9 = 9

>>13816524
the otters ate fish, only on major occasions though.

>>13816476
I'm currently eating chili chocolate.
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!

Goddammit D: I'd just finished reading his newest book, the Sable Quean, as well. Didn't think it was very good, but the Redwall series is fantastic. What the hell am I going to do now without looking forward to the yearly Redwall book?

>>13816547
but damn if you didn't feel like eating those fucking chestnuts... also required link http://www.redwall.net/kitchen/

rolled 55 = 55

>>13816547
>and shit
>shit
>in a redwall book

AM I GONNA HAVE TO CHOKE A BITCH?

>>13816562
Pick up a different series, perhaps? Dinotopia will scratch a lot of the same itches.

>>13816547
>>13816551

My god. He was so good he talked about a vegetarian diet and actually; 1. Made me want to eat it, and 2. Not notice there wasn't meat.

The man was legendary.

>>13816562
there is one final one... The Rogue Crew, due out this year... was the last one he had written before his heart gave out, possibly after writing about one of those feasts

>>13816524

Good critters would eat fish and other seafood, but never meat; with the exception of one crazy otter in The Legend of Luke who would eat his enemies.

This was frowned upon.

It varied for vermin, they would eat anything (including birds) but only the really bad ones would eat other meats.

Also: cannibal pygmy shrews would eat travelers; swamp creatures {toads, frogs, etc) would eat anything; and (predatory/scavenger) birds and snakes and the like would eat critters

>>13816565
>Pawfulls
I fucking baw'd

rolled 72 = 72

>>13816585
I think it was so even a child could tell on a dietary chart how evil the characters were.

>>13816542

After we'd converted him to the books my friend ran a Redwall d20 games based on Freeport. We played vermin pirates. My character was a searat captain who wore the pelt of a badger she claimed to have killed. No one believed her, but when you have +25 in Intimidation nobody dares argues.

We tortured a Long Patrol hare with scones, fought off a Bloodwrathing Badgerlord, built an armada and I managed to blow up the ship and get the party killed before we even reached the Abbey. Good times.

May he find peace in the halls of the ancestors. His works will live on in our memory.

Sigh. The Outcast of Redwall, Mariel of Redwall, thats my childhood right there. I still have the hardbacks that I first read when I was 5.

>>13816605

>>13816605

so you used raisins instead of currants in the scones?

>>13816605
dear lord, that is awesome, even if you were vermin.

Are any of the other boards making a big deal about this?

...Captcha is "the nsearat." Take out the n and you get >>13816605

Pearls of Lutra, Long Patrol, Marlfox, Taggerung.

Those 4 were great for sequential progression of the story, without the drastic change from the epic (proper use of the term) of Redwall, to Mattimeo and without the timeshift flashbacks.

Loved the series, but I really liked those 4 in particular.

>>13816438

Oh fuck... you just made me realize that Bradbury's very old.

Oh god!! The Astronaut whose family could never look at the sun again.

The Fire Balloons!

That city built for vengeance!

The Illustrated man and the Martian chronicles are some of the BEST things I have ever read, perhaps the absolute best.

I never even thought about Bradbury being mortal, let alone being of old age...

I'm going to watch the entire Martian Chronicles mini-series(With Rock Hudson) tonight...

And Brian Jacques too... The Redwall books were the first fantasy novels I ever had the patience to read when I was young, and they blew me away...

Otters. God DAMN IT OTTERS AND BADGERS ARE MADE OF METAL.

Rest in peace Mr.Jacques. Your books made my childhood.


<ewsonte glazed
Indeed captcha that food was glazed to perfection

>>13816655
/lit/ of course, and probably /ck/ when word gets to them.

I'm... going to the college now... I have no classes today, but I know there'll be friends to console.

I hope this thread is on when I get back. Tomorrow I'll be posting an outline for the project. For now, midterms.

But Redwall RPG will happen.

>>13816619

We were based on the island of Terramort and in the process of planning a full scale invasion. The forces of Salamandastrom caught wind and sent some hares to spy on us. We caught most of them and had the sole survivor thrown in the dungeons.

I ordered him kept without food for an entire day, then went down and sat in front of the bars with a plate of buttered scones and slowly ate them in front of him. I demanded he give us answers, and when he refused I sensually slathered jam on the scones and made a huge show of eating them and how delicious they were. It broke the hare's spirit and he confessed everything. A Salamandastrom fleet was heading this way intending to destroy us. Oh dear.

I went to gather our forces and left the plate of scones behind. An inch out of his reach.

Playing vermin is fun.

When I was about 8 or 9 I would read an entire Redwall book in one sitting, as soon as I got hold of it. My mother would pick them up for me.
I would spend about 8 hours reading, into the night. Just a little reading light to illuminate the words.

Now I wear glasses for my short-sightedness. But I dream of being an author one day.

Martin be with you, you glorious man.

>>13816661
Bradbury is turning very weird.

>>13816691

>forgot my image

/tg/ should do more work on a d20 redwall thing NOW. In the memory of the great man.

>thernef past

>>13816701
Yeaaaah... but at least not quite as awful as Orson Scott Card. Everyone should read Ender's Game, but holy fuck, nobody should buy it.

>>13816709
Eulalia to that sir.

thats really rough, he was an amazing man, his books really helped me through some rough times. tonight I shall make something from the redwall cookbook in his honor.

Rest In Peace old friend. Some day I will read your books to my children.

>>13816709
Well, what's there to really do? If anyone could post up the Redwall Riddler that would be cool but apart from that we've statted everything we can, only thing left is for some DMs to run some campaigns. Classes will likely be variants on warrior builds since magic is only eluded to exist but never actually shows up.

Sadly but unsurprisingly the /co/ thread about this has been layed into by the obsessive furry-haters.

No doubt they are as bad as the furries, total disgrace.

We do indeed need a Redwall RPG

>>13816741

Pink Projectionist here.

/tg/ Keeps things classy most of the time.

God damn, I liked these books, even if they plots repeated, it somehow kept my interest.

The only thing I didn't like was how no vermin no matter what, could ever be redeemed. Seriously.
Never. That always stuck in my craw, and the food, good god, the food descriptions...

sometimes when reading it, or listening to it I would skip a few pages or a few minutes just to get past the food. Because god damn it made me hungry.

These books are classics, even the parts I didnt like.

Im thinking Im gona torrent the 3 season cartoon series, and do a marathon on my stream tomorrow, until then... the audio books.

>>13816741
Link anyway please?

Didn't care for most of the series save Redwall and Slamandastron, but those two books were excellent.

You will be missed, sir.

Oh god my childhood. A friend and I are now planing a combination feast/watching of the cartoon in his honor, assuming I can find it. Can /tg/ help point me in the right direction?

>>13816407

Mice are way over powered compared to the other critters, either they need to be nerfed or others need to be brought in line with the mouse's reroll ability. It's a good ability that nicely represents mice as the sort of protagonist type they are in the books but simply: I loved the shrews and want to see them level with mice.

Eulalia bump.

bump.

So... Should I cook otter's hotroot soup or a hunter's hot pot tonight?

>>13816904
Hotroot man, always go for hotroot.

>>13816838
So give Shrews something awesome too. Maybe make it so that when multiple shrews work together on the same project(skill roll), their bonus stacks until the job can't concievably be done better with more hands?
This'd be pretty big with craft checks, so for the campaign overall it'd be nice. But for a PC it would not be very important. Perhaps give them weapon focus for the rapier for free?

>>13816830


Do you have Demonoid?

Tons of it there, I too and snagging the Cartoon series

http://www.demonoid.me/files/?category=0&subcategory=All&quality=All&seeded=0&extern
al=2&query=Redwall&uid=0&sort=

>>13816914
hmmm what about the Logalog prestige class?

>>13816944

The Audio books are top notch, almost as good as Graphic Audio books. Large Cast of voice actors, music, all very well done.

>>13816944
Sadly, I'm working off college internet at the moment. I'd get hauled infront of the disciplinary committee if I tried to torrent anything, otherwise I would've gone there first.

>>13816959
Really? If you're sticking around, would you mind fishing on demonoid for the ones you're talking about?

I...I am not going to cry in class. This was such a huge part of me and my sister's childhood. I remember obsessively reading those books, and delighting in the simple pleasures of knowing good was going to beat evil.

This is why I got into fantasy. Even more than Lord of the Rings, this is why I got into D&D.

I met Brian Jacques once in my life, at a book signing. This was a few years back. He was a charming man who reminded me of a great-uncle or a grandfather. When he signed my book and I turned into a gibbering fanboy, he had an amused look, like that in itself was a compliment and a reward for writing.

I have all the books, in the hope that someday I can share these with my future children. Goodbye, fair bard.

>>13816966
What about streaming video? All three seasons are up on megavideo. I posted the links WAY back in this thread, down towards the bottom.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8079986/

>>13817157
Streaming could work, but internet speed is *very* hit-or-miss here. Still, it's better than nothing. Thanks anon, and may a deliciously described feast find itself on your table.

I want to do a Redwall campaign, just for old-times sake.

Fuck, I would GM this. Just for the potential win. Who's with me, chaps?!

>Download Redwall intending to read it months ago
>realize I never read it 2 days ago, plan on getting book because I hate reading shit digitally
>This happens

These books are also the major reason I got into fantasy. I saw kids reading them when I was in grade 5 but actually didn't get into them until 2 years later. Read them through high school, F* reading level they were freaking awesome! I thoroughly enjoyed reading his feasts.
Someone mentioned a cookbook? I am most definetly purchasing this!

Even though I haven't been following the Redwall series the last few years, I will be picking them up and reading them all through, here comes a marathon good or bad! Also, purchasing them all will ensure my children/grand children/great great great grandchildren will have access to this wonderful series.

I think ever since I stopped reading this series I have been looking for something to replace it, with as much adventure, predictable peril, blatant heroism and crazy dialects as this series. I'm going to stop and just accept that no other series will ever touch this.
Alright. I'm not crying. I'm still in denial (I think this grief may take a while to work through).

>>13816822

This. Every book except Salamanderstrom was the first two or three books rewritten over and over. Also, you can't really get into these kinds of book when the antagonists are completely and utterly incompetent (except Ferahgo, again Salamanderstrom).

>>13817318

I want to hug you, anon, just to help you through the grief.

Eulalia.

ok, Im streaming an Audio Book.

The Long Patrol.

Pink08

>>13817382

link

>>13817390

The station name is pink08

I want to name my firstborn daughter Eulalia in honor of Jaques, may he rest in peace.

Future husband will have to deal with it.

>>13817408

Awesome : 3

My daughter will be Pollyhedron Von Drake : 3

>>13816795
There were two that did. Romsca the ferret in Lutra, and that searat in Bellmaker I believe.
Damnit, I have to read these again now.

Because he helped spawn SUCH a great subculture, didn't he?

>>13817408

My first son will be named either Matthias or Martin. The wife will never have to know, but the look on that kid's face when he finds out that he shares the name of Martin the Warrior...

>manlytears.jpg

One thing I always hated about the Redwall books was how rats were always dumb, dirty, and mean.

"Everyone is all good and nice and friendly! ...except to the rats. Fuck rats."

>my face when -2 Int, -2 Cha

now i have to read all his books

>>13817449
Stop after about Salmandastron, or maybe Outcast of Redwall. Things go downhill from there.

>>13817455

Don't listen to that man. Read up at least until Legend of Luke. Because at least, then you get to have the backstories of everything.

>>13817469
I forgot about Legend of Luke! Dammit.

Ok, read the prequels, too.

>>13816795
There's exactly one searat. The whole series. Ends up halfway decent, living in a hut on the shore. I think it's in Mariel or something. Only vermin ever redeemed.


Darnit, Jacques, I loved your books. Read those all of middle school.

Really, just avoid Triss. Other books are fine but Triss was something he was pretty much forced to write to have a female champion of Redwall due to fans whining. It shows.

>>13817474

Yea, I use Legend of Luke as the benchmark because then you at least have The Long Patrol and Marlfox.

I need to go home and find my signed copy of Marlfox now.

>>13817437

Matthias will be my boys name as well

>>13817382

Oh Snap! Thank you! Im there!

>>13817430

Like that's his fault?

I would say that he probably didn't even know what furry is, but the idiots probably mailed him porn. That's apparently what happened to the surviving cast and crew of The Secret of NIMH.

First time I hear about this. Rest well.

"Shake paws, count both claws, you steal mine I'll borrow yours. Watch my whiskers, check both ears. Robber foxes have no fears."

RIP Jaques.

Oh man...

I'm gonna go dig up Salamandastron and the Long Patrol now.

>>13817430
Look around you. It's obvious that he did help spawn a great fandom - RPG gamers!
If you're talking about Furries, they've been around long before Redwall. So since you're not talking about Furries, and obviously RPG gamers - /tg/ is a place for RPG fans to talk, after all; and you ARE on /tg/!
So he really did help to inspire a generation of RPG gamers.

Sad. So sad. I loved his books. :'(

"Death comes to us all sooner or later. We cannot escape it." - Brian Jacques

I appreciate the man and what he did- most of all his delicious food porn- but I could never shake even as a kid the stark dichotomy in his world. You were either a pure soul or a total monster with nothing in between, and no hope of redemption if you were the latter.

Though I'll secondthirdfourthandonwards the love for Salamandastron. It was the only Redwall book I really got into.

Rest in peace nonetheless. I will prepare a fine feast in your honor tonight, Jacques.

> -2 int, -2 cha

Less intelligence and force of personality than mice? Come now, has this guy ever even SEEN a rat?

Well shit.

>>13817585

about 20 mins in to the Long Patrol, come by and listen, The book is narrated by Brian Jacques with the Redwall players doing the voices.

Pink08

"Don't be ashamed to weep; 'tis right to grieve. Tears are only water, and flowers, trees, and fruit cannot grow without water. But there must be sunlight also. A wounded heart will heal in time, and when it does, the memory and love of our lost ones is sealed inside to comfort us."

God tier:
Redwall
Mattimeo
Salamandastron

Good tier:
Martin the Warrior
The Bellmaker
The Pearls of Lutra

Meh tier:
Mariel of Redwall
The Legend of Luke

Rabbits & Badgers AKA Shit tier:
The Long Patrol
Lord Brocktree

Godawful tier:
Mossflower
Outcast of Redwall
Marlfox
The Taggerung

Jesus Christ Man Stop Writing These tier
Triss and onwards.

>>13817599
what about the six-fingered ferret?
He was somewhat morally ambiguous. I don't recall which book it was from.

Fuck I'm in class....why?!

I...know this isn't really the time for this, but this does seem to be the place. What do you guys think of the Mouseguard RPG?

I've been thinking about buying a physical copy you see.

>>13817617
>Outcast of Redwall
This marked the point where I stopped reading. FERRET IS INNATELY EVIL, CAN ONLY SORT OF BECOME SEMI-GOOD IN HIS FINAL MOMENTS is not a lesson that should be even considered applicable to anything.

>>13817633

Wrote the Redwall series, which is kind of like Watership Down meets Prydain.

>>13817606
Ya, you said pink08 was the station, but to me, I have no clue where said station is.

Come on, this is /tg/, you shouldn't get swamped by /b/tards.

>>13817633
That's Ahmedinejad, Shas. You'd think you would know him, since you use him as an avatar so often.

>>13817630

It's better then Burning Wheel, which it was based on.

Also Mouse Guard in general is way better then Redwall.

Its on live
stream put
a / with pink08
in front of it.

>>13817618

You mean the one that everyone looked down on with suspicion and treated like a thief from day one until he- surprise, surprise- inevitably turned out 'evil'?

Then again, in reality mice ARE almost irrevocably paranoid by nature. Unlike rats- hilariously enough- who can learn quite well to get along with other creatures.

Too bad he lived long enough to witness that godawful cartoon.

>>13817617
>Godawful tier:
>Mossflower
A mouse killed a cat with a fucking sword. That's fucking badass.

>>13817617
>Rabbits & Badgers AKA Shit tier:
>The Long Patrol
>Lord Brocktree

>Ifeelthebloodwrathovertakingme.gif

get the fuck out.

>>13817636

Let's not forget Taggerung, were NON-VERMIN IS INHERITLY GOOD.

Goodnight, sweet prince.

He'll be racist against rats and stoats in heaven.

Lord Brocktree, Rakkety Tam, and Martin the Warrior.

LB is just badass. RT hit home for me, being a Scotsman and all, and MtW is just fun.

In the redwall RPG, we need special rules for highland squirrels.
T.T

>>13816959
To hear the voice of the man himself listen to the book Mossflower.

He narrates it.

>>13817636
I thought the point of that was redepmtion?

>>13817599
Or a mouse, for that matter? Little bastards are vile.

>>13817754
The point of redemption is getting killed while attempting to do something evil but doing it in such a way as it's perceived as being noble?

Also, redemption for inferior races comes only with death?

I always thought Redwall, Martin the Warrior and Mossflower were the only good Redwall books.

>>13817721
Seconded

Additionally there should be a penalty for taking no rank in the cooking skill.

>>13817730

Come on down and listen with us.

LS Pink08, only about 30 mins in to The Long Patrol

They were simple books with fun, plain stories meant for a younger audience.

Rodents talk, make and wield tiny swords, and build castles. Species dictates nigh-absolute moral tendency.

Really, you love the talking field mice, but individuals being born good or born bad is too outlandish a concept for you to suffer?

Right...

Personally, I don't give a fuck and Badgers are fucking awesome.

In fact, Badgers are probably one of the things that led me to the obsession with Noble-serkers of all sorts.

"Ayohoho gentlebeasts, tis time to taste the firery end of sword-n-board."

>Persian ontectie

As much as I love d20, I don't think we could make a Mossflower The RPG from it.

I mean Badgers are major players but a +4 L, shit cucks man.

Redwall, Mattimeo and Mossflower were the best

Outcast of Redwall fucking sucked

All the rest I read were good, although they got really damn formulaic and I quit. I think I read every one up to Triss.

>>13817842
>individuals being born good or born bad is too outlandish a concept for you to suffer?
Yeah, it's totally about it being "outlandish" and not fucking morally reprehensible.

BURR OI, KILL ALL LESSER RACES HURR

Try the Flying Dutchman series sometime /tg. It's Redwall only made with pure BORING and STUPID.

What furry content should be.

>>13817919
Deptford Mice.

Redwall - stupid + some serious grimdark.

I hated how the majority of villains in the Redwall series went down like bitches.

>>13817935

FINALLY, someone else who's read those!

This shit in particular. Good god. Thomas is technically more horrific, but this one hits harder in the soft spots.

>>13817898

>Forgets about dragons in mythology, and trolls and such.

>Orcs in LotR too.

>Thinks that this in any way makes Redwall bad.

>mfw

>>13817990
That's one pimpin Badger Lord there bro.

>>13817990
Tolkien himself complained about that interpretation of Lord of the Rings. Also, Redwall is for children, and perhaps children should be taught a better moral than "kill those that are slightly different than us".

where the hell is the stream?

>>13818040

Note that the whole thing about Redwall abbey is that they just want to be left alone and do good things. They're not the ones who go around starting the fight.They're just willing to finish it.

I don't know about you, but I would like my kid to be willing to defend himself.

>>13818025

Not just any badger. It's a friggin' honey badger. Those things are hardier and more vicious than wolverines.

Yes! Thank You!
Of course it bothered me a little that they never really redemed, but then again the vermin sometimes talked about how their mothers had tried to keep them from a life of crime?
There was atleast the one that was always "I should have listened to my mother..." for the WHOLE book. But i know more would make mention. So, I knew that not all vermin were bad, just more likely to fall into life of crime.
And come on, vermin? Villian? Its a kid's novel, keep it simple.

>>13817821
I cannot seem to find it. This is the first time I've ever used live stream, what should I search for?

>>13818115
livestream.com/pink08

Since the guy running the livestream is clearly being a tremendous faggot. Not that hard to post a goddamn link.

>>13818107
And probably much like Tolkien and his Orcs, there are probably good vermin, you just don't read about them because they'd be uninteresting.

I loved the Redwall books, despite the lack of bats as protagonists and frogs as antagonists. I guess their rarity is what made them so damned likeable.

Also, regarding Dinotopia: I still have my original copy in pristine condition, with my aunt's handwriting inside the cover, wishing me a happy birthday and all that. I was eight when I got it. My mother never noticed the notes until a few months ago.

Today can not get any worse

>>13818175

Call your mom. Things just took a turn.

>>13818123

I tend not to link directly like that to /tg/ anymore as Ive been burned by trolls and such in the past, there is a reason Im on Pink08... but this is a pretty classy thread.

So I hope you can understand why I dont link directly, or spam the link. I honestly didn't think it was that hard to figure out L.S. Pink08

To try and dress up Redwall as a racist work is obnoxious in the extreme.

Vermind in Redwall don't just look bad - they act bad, explicitly and overtly. Redwall is reinforcing an entirely laudable moral compass, and in assigning bad traits to particular characters it serves to illustrate the negativity of evil works to a young audience because they are clearly identified with the stated villain.

Trying to treat Redwall as a race allegory just doesn't work, and comes across as someone trying to make the facts fit his premise more than anything else.

;_;

>>13816317

>>13818175

I'm raising several glasses in his honor.

>>13818205

Indeed. ; _ ; indeed

>>13818192
>Vermin in Redwall don't just look bad - they act bad, explicitly and overtly.
>Muslims don't just look bad - they act bad, explicitly and overtly.

Do you see where strictly black and white moral codes can maybe possibly not help a child to understand morality?

>>13818229

I struggle to see how a creature with fur, whiskers, and a tail looks like someone walking out of a mosque. Maybe you should reassess your own mental image?

>>13818249

Oh, right, yes of course. Attempt to vilify me by putting words in my mouth because you don't have an argument.

>>13818211

>mfw he was roman catholic and would probably love that.

>to a fallen brother.

who?.

Is that guy who was going to run a redwall game still on?

>>13818229
Children tend to be more literal than one would expect. Similes they'll understand, but metaphoric comparisons such as "muslims = stoats, weasels and rats" via Redwall books will go right over their heads.

Figures he dies the day I discover the Skaven. I only read Redwall, but it was still pretty impressive, particularly including I wasn't the most bookish of people at the time I read it.

>>13817940
Except in Martin the Warrior, when the BBEG critted and inflicted the only true downer ending in the series on the book.

>>13818279
kids can be pretty literal, yeah, but I don't think its much of a stretch to say that kids learn that there's no such thing as 'gray' morality when the books are so plainly black and white. just because they see it now as the heroes defeating the villains doesn't mean they won't equate that later in their lives to certain groups of people being more 'right' than others

since when were rats ever cute?

>>13818328
>he's never owned a pet rat!
>laughing_rats.jpg

I feel sorry for you

Redwall was my favourite series of the childhood

>>13818344
>of the childhood
I don't think you knew how to read them.

>>13818145
The reason we're bitching about it - the DIRECT REASON, if you follow the quotes - is because of Outcast of Redwall, where it turns out that even if you raise a ferret up from infancy they're still going to be utter bastards with no redeeming qualities FOREVER.

>>13818368
It was kind of dumb he did that (the book made me go "wait what" the first time I read it) because there were occasions in a few of his other books where the vermin animals were good. I definitely remember one where it had a rat or two living in the Abbey for a little while, and then moving out into their own house.

>>13818368
see
>>13817670

>>13818368

Not to mention Taggerung, in which an otter is raised by some evil bitches and still turns out good.

What I never got was...

Are all the animals human sized.... or relative to the animal size?

Basically were badgers a fuck ton of mice tall and wide?

>>13818368
That's because bad things happen when you feed an obligate carnivore a strictly vegetarian diet.

Well, okay, maybe there was a fish or two thrown in over the years. But still not enough to help.

>>13818403
Yes, badgers are enormous. Relatively.

Wayward /co/mrade here. I came to /tg/ long ago and acquired these scans of the Redwall cook book. I posted them in our thread today in memorial of the honored dead and figured you may like to see them again.

>>>/co/23270167

Brian Jaques was the single largest influence over me when I decided to become an author. I had read his books when I was only 8 years old and continue to read them to this day (that's twelve years, mind you). I was deeply saddened today when I learned of his passing. I grew up with the adventures of Martin and Mattimeo as they Built and left the red sandstone walls of Redwall Abbey, I stood next to the Badgers of Salamandastron as they fought against the ferrets and weasels, I was with the hedgehogs as they brought up their wines and meads and cheeses for the great feasts that were prepared after every major battle, and I wept with them all as beloved characters that we had grown attached to died. Brian Jaques will always have his own shelf on the bookcase of my heart, and I'll pass his works on to my children, and my childrens children as I grow old. Today is a sad day for the literary world, for they have lost one of their greats.

Rest in Peace Mr. Jaques, and may the feasts of Redwall last with you until the end of times.


Also, someone get this damn thread stickied

>>13818403

In the first few books there were references to human civilization(like how the rats come in on a cart pulled by a horse) so I think they were supposed to be animal sized, but then later on I think the animals got subtly retconned into just being anthropomorphic.

>Xcan Landani

brb making a new Star Wars character

>>13818403
First book just makes this one worse, since the entire five-hundred vermin strong invasion force was traveling in a single horse cart.

>>13818434
And cows. Besides, the cart was obvious a TARDIS.

someone special just made this for me..

Enjoyable reading as a child, but I grew bored with the repetitive story structure, plot devices, and overall nature of the books.

They got boring. Whether we're reading a prequel about Martin the Warrior, a Prequel about Martin's Dad, or focusing on a Badger Army coming to Save Redwall, or the Badger Lord being besieged by an army of Stoats.

>>13818403
They were animal sized in the sense of the animals compared to each other. If you look at the art in the cookbook there's one of a ferret holding a mouse and he's pretty big in comparison. Otters, Hares and badgers were always described as being bigger - especially with ones like King Bucko and Lady Cregga. In the first book it did have the horse carriage mentioned, as well as Gingivere putting the main character in his mouth and an owl trying to eat him.

I thought the problem in that book was while some of the abbyfolk were nice to him, a lot of the rest were taken by the same 'rats and vermin are always evil in alignment, rules as written, no exceptions' and were massive racist jerks to him for his entire childhood. As a result he turned out fairly bitter and angry at the world, making the whole thing kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.

Sitting here with my copy of Mossflower.

Feels bittersweet man.

>>13818423
Damn contemplating going over to the corner store and getting gingerale and grape juice.

mmm October Ale.

>>13818545
Sooooooo much like how people around here are with anything not human in 40k?

http://endlessvideo.com/watch?v=1qxSwJC3Ly0

I feel like crying /tg/. Is Mouseguard a good enough system to properly exercise these nostalgic feelings I have?

>Gingivere
Only remaining member of the line of Greeneyes, definitively not evil. Suck that Ungatt Trunn.

Then again no villain in the series stacks up agaisnt Asmodeus.

>>13816299
Thanks for killing my mood you jackwagons.

>>13818790

Come Mourn with us. Listening to some "The Long Patrol" over on Pink08, the link is further up in the thread.

>>13818756
I always wondered where he found his chick, honestly

>>13816329
>>I shouldn't read those books again, Redwall was shit
FTFY.

Honestly, Redwall would have been great if he'd just written the first novel 'Redwall' and STOPPED RIGHT THERE.

>>13818830

Let's think about it this way: you are getting paid very good money to sit around and write quick, easy-to-write children-adolescent stories during which time you lived and worked how you wanted to and the only people you had to answer to were a few bro-like editors. Plus, you like the work!

Now, do you stop doing that entirely and radically change direction?

I'll give you my answer: Hell fucking no.

>>13816299
WHAAAAAAAAAAT?!
I don't believe this. I first became aware of Redwall some years ago. The cartoon on TV. Never read the books, but loved watching the cartoon in my down time.
May Brian Jacques be remembered along with such gods as Lewis and Tolkien.

>>13818830
Go have a heart attack.

Goddamn. Redwall is probably the whole reason I got into Fantasy in general. I fucking loved those books in Elementary + High School.

I think I must have read Taggerung, Marlfox and Mattimeo like 5 times each.

This is almost on par with the death of Kromgol for me.

>>13816422
I will always, always love that book. My parents made me learn to read with it - not the children's edition either, the real one.

I did like the Redwall series too, though. Cest le vie...

So, pretty much all the authors who helped to build moder high fantasy are no longer among the living. This saddens me because, well, that style of writing fantasy is going to get lost as pretty much new authors follow the steps of people like Rowling or Martin.
This saddens me for two reason, first is an affirmation I got old and my youth has gone forever and two...my world is changing too fast and I don't know if I can follow the ryhtm. Before exams I was in the pen and paper RPG club of my college and started to talk with the freshmen about this and that book or movie and they reactions towards my comments about Conan the barbarian movie or the Fritz Leiber tales where almost always replied with "dude, that is like from...the stone age?".

RIP Brian Jacques.

You will be missed, but your work will live on.

Cried like a little bitch.

>>13818830
It was originally only supposed to be a trilogy (Mossflower, Redwall, Mattimeo) but he expanded upon it.

And I don't mind, Lord Brocktree, The Bellmaker, and The Pearls of Lutra were da best

>>13819101
They weren't just the builders of fantasy, they were the ones who could do it right. None of their successors will be able to copy them correctly, no matter how hard they try.

Jacques was the one to do 'the feast' right. All this shit you see with RR Fartin is just a loser's attempt to recreate it. Never will there be a better feast than a Redwall Feast, not even in Salamandastrom.

>>13820238
Redwall Feasts are so epic you cannot read them without feeling hungry, that is just how epic they are.

hmmm wonder how Trout Alla Redwall would be made.

Look at all the bereaved furries.
Post this on /lit/ for a laugh.

>>13820283

It is. >>>/lit/1530575

Went over pretty well.

Troll someplace else maybe?

>>13820283
oh yawn, reported for trollan.

Well, shit.
Stuff got repetitive after a while, but for what it was - good old fashioned adventure and more food descriptions than you can believe - it was amazing.
He was my first real author.
I'm sad he's gone.

i got my favorite book of his signed and shook the guy's hand when i was in seventh grade

jesus fucking christ, this makes it... goddamnit no.

bamp for greatness lost

>mfw /tg/ gives more of a fuck than /lit does.

rolled 5, 5, 6, 4 = 20

My sister used to read me his stories all the time.

He's the reason why I got into anything /tg/ related at all.

>>13820598
/lit/ is mostly retarded fucks who think they're some sort of deep philosophers. THere needs to be a seperate philosophy board so /lit/ can get back to being about books and shit.

>>13820598
You're surprised that fantasy roleplayers care more about him dying than people who actually read adult literature?

>>13820632
>adult literature
>every other thread is Ayn Rand

>>13820632

>adult literature
>>1532431

>>13817269

I'm in!

>>Joini Feferman
Change that to Fefermouse, and it's a good name!

Slowpoking a little.

God they were the first books I got hooked onto during my first days in high school, sitting in a corner in the library digesting through every one of his books I could find.

;_____________________________________;

>>13820615
>/lit/ is mostly retarded fucks who think they're some sort of deep philosophers

Pretty much. I went there once and the thread was "why do scientists and other 'smart' people read the most generic pieces of literature, like science fiction?"

The thread devolved into talking about how socially maladjusted scientists are and as such why they need to "ESCAPE THE CRUEL REALITIES OF THEIR SOLITARY LIVES." And of course, how they are better than them.

Fucking pedants, all of 'em.

I have not heard of these books before.
Are they good?
How do they compare with other Fantasy novels?

rolled 85 = 85

>>13816299
I always checked these books out in hardback.

I will always remember the bullies calling the teacher on me for beating them up(with this relatively large hard book), and my reply being "how?"

I could only pull this off by convincing the teachers of my reverence for books first though...

I'm going to go drink now. Does anybody have that "You Will Never Feast at Redwall Abbey" sadfrog?

>>13820819

They are good, and for many the first piece of good writing they read. It is written for children but can be easily enjoyed by adults thanks to the detail and dialogue. Brian Jacques is what brought me in to fantasy fiction, as before I read his work I had concluded that all fiction is shit and read only history and science books. He single-handedly redeemed the largest genre in existence for a young child long ago.

>>13820819

Aimed at children, but pretty beautiful prose and not so kiddy as all that. It's generally agreed that none of the post-2000 books are much good - some people say it was even earlier than that but those people are fags.

There's two main subseries you should read together: Redwall - Mattimeo - Pearls of Lutra - Long Patrol - Marlfox (debatable if it really belongs in that group but it kind of brings home part of Mattimeo) and Mossflower - Martin the Warrior - Legend of Luke. You could read the two separately but I wouldn't really recommend it, the Martin trilogy has a bunch of backstory.

There's also Mariel of Redwall/The Bellmaker which is pretty cool, and two or three other stand-alone books. One of these is Lord Brocktree, which is fucking awesome and kind of a prequel to the Martin trilogy. Everything recent is crap.

I am furious with the universe for robbing me of Jacques, but thank you for telling me /tg/. I would not have known.

>>13820819

best goddamned food porn you'll ever read.

after a while they tend to all follow the same plot, though. "Oh no! a new enemy threatens the goodbeasts! everybody scramble around for old poetry to decipher!"

didn't even clue in on that until I read his Flying Dutchman book. or was it books? were there two of them?

>There will never be a prequel about any of the Primeval Badger Lords Bluestripe the Wild, Ceteruler, Spearlady Gorse or Urthrun the Gripper
>sadfrog.jpg

>>13820996

Oh God, oh god you're... you're right. =o(

I pretty much kept reading his books till about 12 years of age. Around the same time I discovered Warhammer 40k. Then I was sucked into the grimdark and there was just no more room for the Hope and Prosperity of Redwall. I really should go to the library and check his stuff out in secret.

>>13820987

George R. R. Martin wants a word with you.

>there will never be any more badger lords of Salamanstrom along with their bro rabbits

;_;

>>13821030
I will use this as my GM screen when I inevitably run a campaign using the races posted in this thread.

>>13821089
Damnit George, you know full well that violates the restraining order.

Oh wow this is incredibly sad news. The redwall series introduced me to fantasy when I was a kid

>>13816299
I liked Redwall.

Unfortunately, the furry bawwing is probably going to become deafening. International Day of Furfag Mourning or something as they all flail about claiming that it was totally Brian Jacques that got them into sick fuckery, thus tarnishing his achievements.

>>13821154

redwall isn't really furfaggotry, it's food faggotry.

text.... foodfaggotry

>>13821154
>as they all flail about claiming that it was totally Brian Jacques that got them into sick fuckery

they'd be lying. Disney's Robin Hood. that is the source from which evil is born.

>>13821180

Also Sally Acorn from Sonic sat-am

>>13821164
You are either an evil cat, fox, or snake!

>>13821192

kitty cat :3

>>13821180
I totally agree with you.
Old furfags: Disney's Robin Hood.
New furfags: Sally Acorn, Minerva Mink, Gadget from the Rescue Rangers.

>>13820996
>>13821097
You know that you can get new authors signed onto a series after the originator dies, right? Like what's going to happen with A Dance with Dragons? This might be a good chance to get some new live injected into the series.

>>13821260

Very subtle, well played. 8/10

>>13821030
Detail of this pic. Love seeing the Badger flinging folks around like nothing.

Anyway, Redwall has always been a favorite of mine. Its really what got me into reading fantasy to begin with. God damn..

>>13820929
Outcast of Redwall needs to be read. Mostly for Sunflash the Mace. Berserker badger armed with a tree branch and hawk best bro? Fuck yeah!

>>13821260
Like when Matt Ward took over for Codices?

Goodnight sweet prince.

>>13821299
Nice try.

I was expecting a follow up with, "Dune only got better when Brian Herbert took over."

On Friday night, my friends and I named our pipe Sunflash the Mace

EULALIAAAAAAAAA!

ASMODEUS WILL BRING YOU EEETURNEEETEEE....

>>13820996
>>13821056
Sounds like a job for a writefag. I plan to read some of the redwall books again to remember the tone of it all, and give a short story a crack sometime.

>>13821260
This is funny because its the only way GRRMartin's thing is every going to be finished.
Redwall has been finished for about a decade.
Let it be.

>>13821378
I prefer to be realistic about ole George. Dance was supposed to come out in 2005, and six years later it's almost grown large enough to be split into ANOTHER two books.

And anyone who thinks that the Brian Herbert Dune noel were any good is either insane or trolling.

>>13821435
I must admit that I am tempted. However, out of all the /tg/ inspired writing projects I have started, I have finished exactly zero, so it's not like there much weight behind that ambition.

>>13821089

See:

>>13820238

Man.

That's a downer.

He was kind of an odd dude, but I enjoyed the crap out of his books when I was younger.

>>13821622

>>13818123
Redwall was an abandoned Human abbey with an active mouse one inside right?

My little childhood brain never got that sorted out/

>>13821698

early books were like that, yeah. there was even reference to a man walking around IIRC.

that entire line of thought was quickly abandoned, though. didn't even bother to retcon it or anything.

>>13821698
The first book kinda sorta started out with humans as a possible creature, because the rats were riding in a cart hooked up to a horse, and the cat and owl lived in/by a barn. Later though, he seemed to abandon that idea, and it was just animals doing people stuff.

>>13821721
No wonder I got so lost.

>>13821721
Methuselah was a helluva herbalist yo, only explanation you need.

Fuck.
I AM NOW BUYING EVERY REDWALL BOOK I DO NOT OWN.
(Mostly Pearls of Lutra because FUCK YEAH PIRATES AND GIANT LIZARDS.) Still, any D20 campaign based on Redwall is a good campaign, and anyone who participates is a person of taste.

Pour out an October Ale for those who have passed on. You will be missed, good sir.

>Manly Tears

>>13821721
Man, I'm drawing a blank to the reference you're talking about. Was it in one of the first books?

what was the saddest event in redwall?

for me its when Cregga died. That chapter was so beautiful and yet so heartwrenching. Got tear stains all over my copy of Taggerung.

>>13821946
For me it was when those two vermin were staying at Redwall, and just got to playing with the bows and arrows from a contest earlier in the day.

They weren't even trying to be cruel or malicious, but they still ended up killing that poor Elder. THAT was saddening to me, just because it was like fate was trout slapping everyone in the face.

>pop over to /ck/
>thread starts out sad
>suddenly RECIPES
>RECIPES EVERYWHERE
>YOU CAN READ ABOUT A REDWALL FEAST AND THEN -EAT A REDWALL FEAST-

why am I only just learning this now, /tg/

this is at least a decade overdue

>>13821967
Only one killed the elder, the other was just a neckbeard who wanted to make barrel boats for the kids. He ends up choking the murderer to death then becomes a hermit carpenter dispensing toy boats to the abbey and assorted areas.
Romsca the ferret was the only other redeemed vermin if I recall correctly.

>>13816369
That's strangely fitting, given how much focus Jacques tended to pay to the Feasts in Redwall.
>>13816524
They *did* eat Shrimp! Beyond that, I can't really recall.

However, as big a part of my childhood as his writing was (3rd behind R.L. Stein - admit it, you read Goosebumps! - and Bruce Coville), his later books became *very* formulaic. When I read "Darkwyte" last year, I was able to predict who would marry who, who would die, etc. Pretty much all of the major plot points, really.

Still... feels bad, man.

>>13821967
oh god I remember that too. That one was seriously upsetting for the reason you listed. They started goofing off and I just KNEW something bad was going to happen. >>13822064
They had huge-scale fish living in the lake and I recall they would catch one and serve it at every seasonal feast.

>>13821870

It's in Redwall, mentioned as how Cluny got the cart.

>>13822044

Romsca was a fucking bad ass.

Pearls of Lutra is actually really good, might be the best book imo

Over rated author is overrated. I'm so glad he's dead so no one has to read any of his terrible books anymore. Good riddance to bad racist garbage. I'm celebrating his death with glee.

>>13822285
Terrible troll, and also not entirely true, as his last book is still coming out apparently

>>13816299

Mein childehooden! I hadn't read his work in ages. Suddenly, my memories spent in the kids' section of the library in an oversized beanbag reading about Martin the Warrior came rushing back to me.

Here I come to make your night complete.

Someone archive this thread at suptg. I can't, due to the 'one per hour per user' restriction.

Gonna pour out some October Ale in his honor. His books were a very enjoyable part of my childhood. I remember this one friend I have really got into reading English books thanks to Jacques. Same thing goes for me, to a degree.

A Toast to Brian Jacques:

When I was a little kid, I was a picky eater. Seriously picky. If it had an ugly color, mushy, looked like a vegetable, didn't taste like sugar, I wouldn't eat it. If it wasn't prepared by a television clown or came with a piece of plastic toy I would fight my parents tooth and nail not to eat it. As a result, I was a tubby little kid who got picked last for sports.

Then I got introduced to Redwall. If you've never read the books, every book contains at least one elaborate feast. I read as Jacques painted a mosaic of flavors, aromas, spices, and textures. I found my mouth watering about things like mushrooms and onion leeks, crusty flour pocked nut breads, syrupy cherry cordials, candied scones, shrimp and hot root soup, roast greyling, a menagerie of healthier more wholesome foods that if presented to me a day before I would have rejected out of hand. I asked my parents to let me try some of these dishes and, whether it was because I finally had an open mind or I just hadn't ever tried these things before without a fight, I found myself digging in with gusto.

There were a lot of lessons I took away from his books but when I look back at the tubby kid I used to be and the quick, light, and strong healthy eater I am now, I can't deny that Jacques caused a turning point in my life. He taught me not to prejudge on appearances and that the open mind is rewarded.

May you be greeted at the gates of the dark forest Mr. Jacques, the world is a better place because you were in it.

>>13822636
The furry... tried to give naked pictures of himself to Brian Jacques?

Not sure if troll.

Guys, what if Brian Jacques has a secret CP dungeon waiting to be unearthed from all the kids who have done this? What if he just wrote all those books as a way to... okay, no, not even I can complete this thought.