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    21 KB Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:12 No.13659142  
    When humanity first figured out faster than light space travel we were looking forward to meeting other species. To learning new things and being part of some big galactic brotherhood and all that hippy shit.

    What we didn't expect was to be the galactic equivalent of a sideshow freak.
    Let me put it simple for you kids. We are freaks. We defy most if not all the formerly accepted "rules of life" as far as the rest of the galaxy is concerned. We breath oxygen while everyone else breathes ammonia, we have a centralised cardiovascular system which uses adrenaline to regulate itself (which is classed as an illegal stimulant among other races), we only have two manipulators, we are very very short, we're not that smart (but we are cunning), we're very violent, we excrete both liquid and solid waste, we're highly acidic (in comparison), we're omnivorous oh and we can eat anything. Literally anything. If it isn't outright poisonous to us then chances are we can eat it.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:13 No.13659151
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    I mean fuck it's like that kid every town has who is all deformed and crippled. That was humanity in the eyes of the galaxy. Bobby the deformed drooling retard in the wheelchair who kept screaming about aglets and shitting himself while eating dirt. That was us. We are Bobby.
    Let me tell you that's a certain hit to the ol' self esteem. For a generation it was us getting the same old routine of "WHAT?!" as every other race refused to believe it wasn't all a crazy scam. Eventually they realised it wasn't all a joke and became fucking fascinated with us, you know in the same way you can't help but stare at that drooling retard as he wheels around in his chair leaving a trail of piss everywhere. The number of humans who made a fortune just eating in front of a camera is insane. I am shitting you not. The alien equivalent of daytime TV (Or late night horror movie) on a million million worlds was some human eating. Just some guy eating some meat, some veg, some alien critter or plant and whatever. You ever see the humans on Earth who eat crazy shit like metal? It was a lot like that to them.

    Course not all humans who went out had it easy. Considering that our bodies contain what to many races is effectively a narcotics factory you had cases of humans being kidnapped and "milked" for hormones and chemicals we produce either as waste or as part of our normal bodily functions.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:14 No.13659161
    You got me.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:14 No.13659162
    ...but the white man was better than the darker races.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:15 No.13659176
    >humans being kidnapped and "milked" for hormones and chemicals we produce either as waste or as part of our normal bodily functions.

    This is now sexy.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:15 No.13659178
    Humanity Fuck No?

    Bleh. Tastes like fail.

    Why'd you have to go and make this? HFY was making a non-retarded comeback.

    Dammit, now it's ruined.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:15 No.13659180

    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:16 No.13659182
    White man adrenaline goes for more on the alien market than black man adrenaline.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:18 No.13659206
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    And the suits. Oh your god the fucking suits. Like I mentioned everyone else breathes ammonia which is bad for us. Very bad. We breath oxygen which is very bad for them. And of course the whole breathing ammonia thing means that in comparison what is comfortable for us very very cold for everyone else.

    So you go off world then you're gonna need a big fucking environment suit. It'll keep you cool and breathing something that isn't going to kill you. If you settle in non-human territory then expect to pay a shitload for all the inspections and certifications for your living space considering it's a hazard to everyone around you and some of your waste has to be carefully disposed of lest it either poison the natives or get turned into drugs.
    Course it's worth noting that if you're ever in a bind you can typically sell your piss to a junkie or dealer in almost any port.

    I bet the sci-fi authors of pre-contact Earth never saw that one coming. Selling bags of piss to the alien equivalent of a crack whore for enough cash to pay for your next travel ticket.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:18 No.13659207
    The artist calls those outfits stripper outfits? They don't even have mud and the vamp doesn't even have fake armor on. And where's the were's other heel.

    >cases of humans being kidnapped and "milked" for hormones
    And I got an erection.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:19 No.13659212
    There were two parts.

    I r sad that no part three
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:19 No.13659217
    obvious, with hindsight
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:24 No.13659259

    my new favorite thread of the month.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:26 No.13659297
    WHAT IS THIS HERESY! Humanity is the smartest and most resilient creature in the known universe!
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:26 No.13659298
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    But in the end things turned out quite well for humanity overall. As it happens there's more worlds with near Earth environments or can be converted to such than we ever predicted. What's more pretty much all of them are rich in various minerals and other things that other races want.

    Once the initial shock of discovering humanity died down the galactic corps quickly realised that instead of paying the obscene amounts required to maintain living areas for their old workers they could instead pay a slightly less obscene sum to make the planets environment a bit closer to Earth's then charge humans for the right to colonise it and then by investing in the planets industries they can guide it along whatever path they want meaning they end up getting what they wanted without the gigantic operating costs and humans get to spread and have other people foot the big bills.

    Lucked out on that front really.
    What's even better though is that aside from the resources which are very very hard to get at there is nothing of value to other races on these worlds meaning that nobody is competing with us for living space. Do you have any idea how big a deal that is? We're not competing for living space. We don't have to worry about the problobgoogleyeyedfuckers deciding they want a human world because the world is lethal to them. On the other hand they don't have to worry about us because we can't stand their worlds. That certainly made us popular in the long run.

    So yeah being the sideshow freak isn't all bad.
    Still we never got those green alien sex slaves we were promised.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:29 No.13659326
    Oh god. Humans are Volus in this setting.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:29 No.13659328
    > we're not that smart (but we are cunning)
    I defy anyone to provide a type of natural selection background that would produce beings more intelligent than us, unless they have simply G.E'd their races up in intellect.

    Above making tools, language and future planning intellect stops advancing due to natural selection. What does advance due to selection pressure is E.Q, becoming a better lier and detecting this lieing etc.

    >breath oxygen while everyone else breathes ammonia
    Bah, the reason we are in an oxic environment is because the Cyanobacteria or blue-green algae managed to get a large energetic difference when photosynthesising. They became dominant because they were more efficient and they produced oxygen which is leathal to anoxic bacterial / eucaryote life.

    Also without the large energy potential difference that C + O > CO2 produces complex life like us would not be possible. (NH4 > H2 + N2 is shit)
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:31 No.13659351

    Bro we have no fucking clue what life on other worlds could be like.
    Assuming everything will be like us is fucking insane.
    >> Engineer Guy 01/25/11(Tue)21:32 No.13659369
    Listen to this guy.

    He knows what he's talking about.

    Knees fucking suck though.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:32 No.13659374
    >ever got those green alien sex slaves
    Truly, the future is a bleak and depressing thing.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:33 No.13659379
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    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:33 No.13659387
    hey aliens in space-Africa would kill for a pair of knees like ours
    >> Engineer Guy 01/25/11(Tue)21:33 No.13659389

    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:33 No.13659390
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    anyone got this one?

    Or the one where "Humanity was the galaxy's underdog but became the dominant force until we for some reason 'disappeared'"?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:34 No.13659395
    If the PH of of our blood is highly acidic to the aliens, then they are vulnerable to being acid burned to death by pure fucking water. The PH of human blood is pretty much fucking neutral, leaning towards basic, at very close to 7.35-7.45.

    1 is the most acidic, 14 is the most basic, 7 is neutral. Distilled water is more acidic than blood.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:35 No.13659398
    That is assuming that life itself isn't some massively rare occurrence or even possible anywhere other then our world. Hell we could be the first or last (and by extension, only) sentient living thing in all the universe.

    Of course I am aware of how incomprehensibly FUCKING MASSIVE the universe is. Hell humanity could exist (in one form or another) for billions of years and we might never find anyone else out there.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:35 No.13659404

    OP here, the one where we effectively took over despite being midgets?
    I must have written that sometime last year.
    Think I have it saved somewhere
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:36 No.13659408
    Not OP, but I think that we are intelligent and not the drooling retard in the corner. There's going to be more advanced races out there and this scenario it would seem they're more advanced. Yet that doesn't discredit humanity's intelligence, which might not be on par with your average alien. Much like if you'd go to 1900s they'd be consider "less intelligent" yet we all know it's not true. Given opportunities and some time to work it out, Humanity would be on par or surpass the aliens.

    I do agree, Ammonia is no good. However I could see a race of Nitrogen breathers. As Nitrogen is abundant in both our own atmosphere but across the stars.
    >> Hank Pym !!A0/lWspso1i 01/25/11(Tue)21:36 No.13659416
    >Of course I am aware of how incomprehensibly FUCKING MASSIVE the universe is. Hell humanity could exist (in one form or another) for billions of years and we might never find anyone else out there.
    Would it be possible (however improbable) for Humanity to exist on another planet, without us Earthlings going there first?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:37 No.13659419

    What comic is that from?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:37 No.13659421

    And our respiratory system is kinda shitty considering it's not suited for bipeds.


    And yes I found it. The one where humans are wee tiny folk. You want it postin?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:37 No.13659427
    >>13659178 Dammit, now it's ruined.
    it was ruined through and through well before anyone ever thought about bolting on the "Fuck Yeah" part to make a genre name.

    >>13659298 Once the initial shock of discovering humanity died down the galactic corps quickly realised that instead of paying the obscene amounts required to maintain living areas for their old workers they could instead pay a slightly less obscene sum to make the planets environment a bit closer to Earth's

    Considering that this involves keeping the partial atmospheric pressure of an extremely reactive chemical at roughly 20000 pascal, I fear to think of just bloody picky everyone else is.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:38 No.13659432

    It's in another thread right now. >>13658482

    Sure is a popular topic around here!
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:38 No.13659436

    Meh I write as it comes to me and Ammonia seemed suitable on the off hand.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:38 No.13659437
    Drake's Equation, bro.
    The Drake Equation is a formula designed to find the number of intelligent civilisations in the galaxy, using:

    The number of stars formed every year
    Multiplied by the fraction of those stars with planets
    Times the number of those planets in the solar system that could support life
    Multiplied by the fraction of those planets on which life appears
    Multiplied by the fraction of those life-bearing planets on which intelligence arises
    Times the fraction of those that would become technologically advanced with a desire to communicate
    Multiplied by the length of time that they continue to transmit detectable signals into space

    If you take reasonable or optimistic values for the [Drake] equation, it suggests that right now, there may be around 10,000 civilisations we can detect in the galaxy.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:39 No.13659441
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    >He thinks humans will play second fiddle to any other species
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:39 No.13659442
    >The PH of human blood is pretty much fucking neutral
    He was probably taking about out skin, all the bacteria acid piss on us does make out skin fairly acidic (pH of skin is ~ 4.5-6)
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:40 No.13659446
    There IS such a thing as being indigestible, you know. It might get into the stomach, but some stuff just won't do jack shit for you as far as metabolism goes. It'll just sit there and take up space. If you filled up on it, you'd literally starve with a full stomach due to not being able to digest stuff/pass the indigestible stuff.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:40 No.13659451
    Not it
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:40 No.13659455
    Of course remember that several of those factors are estimated using very limited data. Even it's authors have stated that it's merely conjecture at best.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:40 No.13659458

    From what I understand of human biology we tend to lean towards acidic in our body. Anything that isn't neutral is going to be acidic.

    So I always like to throw it for a loop by having other sentients be alkali instead.
    >> Engineer Guy 01/25/11(Tue)21:41 No.13659460
    >Implying Drake wasn't full of shit
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:41 No.13659466

    Think this is it.

    Humans were first encountered around fourty of their years ago. A human exploration ship that had gone to the largest world in their system found themselves facing a science vessel belonging to the Keldeen consortium.

    The humans oddly enough immediately assumed the vessel was a colonisation ship despite its small size and made a point of explaining how the worlds in that system belonged to them.

    The Keldeen science vessel assumed the human ship was simply a probe and took it onboard.

    There we no survivors from the Keldeen ship.

    After that there was no word from the Sol System (humanity's home system) for around seven of their years. Then humanity, utilising the FTL transmission systems from the Keldeen ship they had captured contacted the Keldeen Consortium's regional director office to apologise for the misunderstanding involving the science vessel.

    A meeting was arranged. The Keldeen Consortium looking forward to the prestige and potential lucrative trade opportunities (especially considering the material wealth of the Sol system in certain rare elements) and the humans looking forward to getting out into the wider galaxy.

    It was then that certain difficulties arose.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:41 No.13659467
    And if you don't make shit up, you find Drake's equation is useless.

    Making up variables based on supposition isn't scientific. Drake's equation isn't taken seriously by scientists, just TV.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:42 No.13659471
    >>13659437 Drake's Equation

    Take a string of numbers, which range from rough estimates to pretty much complete fucking guesses, and multiply them together...

    In the end, the error range for the answer is truly cyclopean.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:42 No.13659475
    No, I'm going to agree with this guy. The problem with the idea of breathing ammonia is that ammonia is incredibly reactive; there would be tons of biological problems from breathing it.
    Also, it is a universal law that for energy to be generated by a chemical process, the reaction must produce a more stable product. Carbon based being breathing oxygen; that's easy (CO2, one of the most stable simple molecules). Carbon based breathing ammonia? nearly impossible: C-N and C-H bonds are quite weak. And if the lifeform isn't carbon based...well, that is incredibly questionable since all other elements bond in less locations than carbon, making complex molecules impossible (except for metals, but they are absolutely incapable of forming complex molecules)

    Also, the idea of humans being milked for adrenaline is absurd. Adrenaline needs specific receptors in the body, which are in turn linked to a specific response. All of this was ironed out over millions of years. The idea that aliens would get the same effect from adrenaline as we would is like assuming a windows XP program can be installed into a mouse brain.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:42 No.13659479
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    Well I tried to upload the Veil of Madness one you're all asking for but it's giving me the duplicate file business.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:43 No.13659484
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    When the human ship (utilising a reverse engineered Keldeen FTL drive) arrived at the venue for this historic meeting, the Keldeen assumed that for some reason the humans had sent a probe.

    There was a brief fear that it was actually a torpedo but this was quickly belayed when scans showed no explosives and detected faint life signs.

    The "probe" was allowed to land at the arranged spot which was a landing pad which seemed to swallow the tiny craft. The regional manager who was representing the Keldeen went up to the tiny craft to discover the most bizarre sight ever witnessed by any in this galaxy.

    The humans were tiny. Smaller than a G'votch burrow ray. Most vermin in the galaxy are larger than them yet here they were. Sentient lifeforms that could fit in the palm of your hand (or equivalent manipulator).
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    Most other races would have suspended the meeting in order to collect their thoughts.

    The Keldeen to their credit are shrewd businessmen and believed they saw the potential for such a species on the galactic scale. They had no idea what these small creatures would accomplish.

    After that initial moment of shock on the Keldeen side the negotiations began in earnest with the humans wasting no time on ceremony. Their stance was shockingly aggressive with the Keldeen expecting a very submissive race (in accordance with the usual disposition relating to size of sentient beings). Deals were struck and the Keldeen for the first time since they came out into the galaxy were outmanoeuvred on the bargaining table.

    The Keldeen received what the humans had called "First refusals" on materials from Sol, a concept the Keldeen had misinterpreted as meaning they would have preferential pricing on materials from Sol when in reality it meant the humans would charge what they want but they would allow the Keldeen to buy it before anyone else did (but at the same price). The Humans in return convinced the Keldeen to pay for the development and creation of mining & refining facilities that the humans would use to begin harvesting materials from across their solar system.

    The Keldeen manager responsible was cleared of gross incompetence by an employee review board but retired out of shame.
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    After those meetings it was almost four of their years before humans began making their way out into the galaxy.

    This brought numerous problems as human ships were around the size of a large torpedo. Thus the galactic council were convinced by the humans to pay for the installation of (expensive) identification systems for human ships that were produced on human worlds by humans and then fitted to human ships by humans at the councils expense.

    Again the galaxy marvelled at the humans ability to negotiate despite their small size.

    When the human embassy was established on Char the capital of the Galactic Council there were various comments made as to why the humans (being so small) required the full embassy land allotment, land was expensive on Char and they surely did not need all that land.

    The human embassy effectively became a small city within the world city of Char. For a time the majority of Chars human population never set foot outside the embassy due to the danger from walking sentients, robots and of course vermin.

    However it was not long after the establishment of Chars human embassy that an insight into human social organisation came about.

    More specifically the way they divide labour.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:46 No.13659519
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    man I have been to /tg/ for too long
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:46 No.13659520
    The problem with ammonia isn't that it's impossible for life to evolve to utilize it; the problem is that in any environment where both ammonia and oxygen are readily available, life that respires oxygen is going to win out.

    Hypothetical life on Titan, for example, could probably breathe ammonia and use methane or ethane as a solvent instead of water; it would be slow as shit compared to Earth-type life, since ammonia doesn't work as well as an oxidizer and there's a whole lot less free energy to begin with due to the low temperatures, but it could still exist.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:47 No.13659529
    >From what I understand of human biology we tend to lean towards acidic in our body.
    Nope "normal blood pH is tightly regulated between 7.35 and 7.45". 7 is neutral, 14 is basic, 1 is acidic.
    >Anything that isn't neutral is going to be acidic.
    What about basic?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:48 No.13659533
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    Most sentients maintain a broad knowledge on various subjects. Specialisation is present of course but not to the same extent as it is present in humans.

    To be specific one part of humanity sacrifices social integration skills in order to nurture frightening scientific knowledge and mechanical skills. Other humans often look down on them but recognise the necessity of having these humans, relying on them for almost all of their technological maintenance and scientific progress.

    Some who had been brought to Char in order to help build and maintain the human embassy there had come into possession of a scrapped worker robot. For some bizarre reason they had decided to restore it and build into it a control system that they could operate from inside the robot.

    So they did this.

    Within five years these modified robots had become a huge commercial success among the humans causing them to spread further throughout the galaxy.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:49 No.13659546
    >Most sentients maintain a broad knowledge on various subjects

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    We fascinate them? Then let them stare in wonder as we teach them what "Scientific Dissection" means. We are a joke to them? Then let them laugh from the far side of our gun lines. They fear us for what we can create, what we can do?

    They should.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:50 No.13659558
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    Humanity were believed to be a very peaceful race. Aside from the incident in Sol (which was a misunderstanding) they had always gotten everything they wanted through peaceful negotiation and espoused a message of peace.

    Their military was often found on worlds hit by disaster aiding the populace and local authorities and for a time it was believed that this is all the human military ever did. The humans not possessing the concept of a military force for conquest. Of course looking through their history would reveal otherwise but this was never done until after their war against the Banwai.

    The Banwai were a race well known to the galactic council as troublemakers, criminals and pirates. Indeed many races had been attacked or extorted by the Banwai in exchange for something they wanted.

    The great wealth and seemingly peaceful nature of the humans must have been as the humans put it "a gold shaft" to them. So the Banwai launched an attack on a human world. They quickly conquered the world in a lightning raid and demanded an extortionate sum for its release. The human response did not surprise the galaxy as they dithered and engaged in negotiations. In hindsight we now see they were merely stalling for time and distracting the Banwai invaders from the humans plan.

    It was in the seventh negotiation for the release of the human world of Tosev 3 that the humans made their demands known. In a move that shocked all those present and all those watching the negotiations on the galactic net.

    The humans said that for every day that Tosev 3 remained under Banwai control they would destroy a Banwai world until there were no more Banwai worlds left. After this they would move onto the few allies the Banwai had.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:50 No.13659562
    Not to be a stick in the mud, but we can produce adrenaline in massive amounts through recombinant DNA, similar to insulin. Why would aliens settle for harvesting?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:50 No.13659567

    Assuming you mean "us" as "earth people" then yes. Humanity can /possibly/ exist where earth people do not. But it would nearly require an act of God.

    I happen to like my knees. They make squats, walking and biking a lot fucking easier.
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    Amid the laughter from the Banwai delegation the human representative said that because humans were nice guys they would only destroy one Banwai world as payment for the weeks Tosev 3 had been held so far.

    In the blink of an eye Ban the homeworld of the Banwai race was reduced to rubble.

    The humans had invented a weapon horrifying in both its effect and simplicity.

    Utilising common silica grains referred to by them as "sand" they had destroyed a world. They first gathered many tons of sand and then accelerated it to just under the speed of light, then releasing it from the containers it was accelerated in they allowed it to hit the world they had targeted. Normally the atmosphere of a world would destroy any such particles but their sheer velocity had enabled them to pass through the atmosphere before friction could destroy them. Each grain impacted with enough force to shatter continents.

    The Banwai immediately surrendered. The humans in a move that shocked the galaxy claimed the Banwai worlds and people.

    Ten years on the Banwai were now just another part of the greater human civilisation holding the same rights as any citizen of the newly dubbed "Sol Federation"

    Three years after this the Keldeen Consortium in a negotiation that took two whole years agreed to be bought out by the Sol Federation expanding the humans borders.

    Over time more and more races and worlds joined the Sol Federation until eventually the Galactic Council accepted that its time was up with the Sol Federation replacing them as the galactic power.

    The Federation government was as diverse as its membership with the elected Chairman of the federation being a Banwai at the time of the Sol Federation replacing the council as the galactic power.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:51 No.13659586
    What about reducing the ammonia to hydrogen cyanide?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:52 No.13659598
    Or we could just lock you up in the looney bin and go on with the peaceful and mutually beneficial co-existence.

    >>13659567 I happen to like my knees.
    Just wait until the warranty runs out.
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    Humanity itself continued to change. Most races simply reached a plateau of evolution and stayed that way.

    Humanity reached this plateau in their late 20th century. In their early 21st century they had decided to take matters into their own hands and with the influx of alien technology had been able to begin in earnest.

    By the time the Sol Federation had become the government of this galaxy humans frequently implanted cybernetic devices in themselves (often linking to the bodies they used when among other races), engaged in genetic engineering on themselves and had even begun to experiment with replacing parts of their body with nanotech.

    Other races either didn't understand this and left it alone or picked up the habit themselves. The Banwai in particular adopted the human philosophy of "assisted evolution"
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:53 No.13659608
    I meant proper motile life forms. I suppose you could use ammonia to make energy, but it would be so little you would not be able to move or have a brain. It would make more sense for the life-form to just not breathe at all and break down its energy-storing molecules (sugars, fats, whatever) into similar organic compounds the way bacteria do
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    Thanks for the old stories

    really brings me back to /tg/ of yesteryear
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:54 No.13659626
    hydrogen cyanide is highly reactive; it would take more energy to make it than would be gained from breaking down ammonia
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    hanks to the superweapons devised by the humans along with the peaceful nature of the Sol Federation there was rarely any war in the galaxy. Many people quickly pointed out that the human philosophy of "peace means having the bigger stick" worked a lot better than the Councils system of economic sanctions.

    The few wars that did spring up were quickly put down through overwhelming force with the same military that conquered these worlds then helping to rebuild them and helping the populace rebuild their shattered lives. There was even one instance where a race long blighted by disaster had instigated war purely to receive the federations help rebuilding.

    And this is the way the galaxy remains even today
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:55 No.13659634
    what the fuck is wrong with Thor is that pic?
    sauce godammit, sauce
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:55 No.13659638
    Yawn. Nice pic of Hohenheim though.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:56 No.13659644
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:57 No.13659654
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    >mfw this thread
    always good for a laugh
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:57 No.13659660
    That's not Thor.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:57 No.13659661
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    Around fourty years ago the humans suddenly underwent a change in their behaviour. Nobody really knows what happened but it seemed the humans had made some scientific discovery that in an odd turn of behaviour for them they didn't share with the galaxy.

    After that point no human was seen outside the robotic bodies they had always used to communicate with us. Travel to human worlds due to the unfavourable conditions for us and the high probability of damaging things had never occurred either meaning no humans were seen.

    Of course they were still active and about in the galaxy. We just never saw them outside their robot bodies, which admittedly was not that odd as many had decided to simply have their brains transplanted into the machines when their flesh bodies started to wear down.

    The galactic community chalked it up to a quirk and ignored it seeing as humanity remained the same as ever in every other regard.

    Worlds were terraformed for colonisation to help those who had lost their homes. Aid was brought to the needy. The rotational spin of the galaxy itself was harvested as an energy source to fuel ever great acts of peace. Science continued to progress in leaps and bounds.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:59 No.13659691
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    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)21:59 No.13659693
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    It's Beta Ray Bill or whatever his name is. Generally a god tier character. He almost killed Galactus.


    Nobody who was alive at that time will ever forget the last speech of humanity.

    It was not uncommon for humans to engage in long winded speeches on whatever topic interested them. Whether it be science, peace, war, philosophy or food. They could and would talk for hours in colourful prose. This speech was short in comparison.

    The current Chairman of the federation who was a human took the stage calling the entire decision chamber to quiet. He then began humanity's last speech which is recorded here:

    "Friends we have been here barely even a lifetime among our kind but in that time the galaxy has been reborn. Peace, understanding, reason, friendship and unity now rule the galaxy.

    There are none here who could say that we have not accomplished great things together.

    And that is why with the utmost sadness in my heart I must tell you all that we will be going on ahead."

    At this point the robotic bodies of the human delegation powered down.

    Panic ensued and a dismantling of the bodies showed that their human occupants were missing. The silence of the human worlds and human ships was noticed and they were discovered to be empty as well.

    Not a single human remained anywhere in the galaxy. Nor was there a single human body.

    It was as if the entire species had just vanished without a trace of what had caused them to vanish.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:00 No.13659698
    who te fuck is that then?
    I don't read comic books, aside from the super stars everybody knows (X-Men, Fantastic 4, Avengers) i do not know anything about Marvel characters, hell I just learned about Super Skrull because of the Capcom videogame that is coming out and all my friends want
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:00 No.13659706
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    Reactions to this were varied. The Banwai, formerly the most despicable pirates, killers, warmongers and criminals of this galaxy have shouldered the burden of filling in for humanity and continue to emulate the example of the ones who brought them to their knees then taught them to walk again.

    The Sol Federation continues to do its utmost to live up to the example of its founders.

    This museum you children now stand in was founded as soon as their disappearance was discovered to commemorate the passing of a species that changed the galaxy forever.

    Now next I will show you the holographic simulation of a pre-contact human city where we will learn about how proof of alien life changed humanity's outlook on life and unified their race.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:01 No.13659710
    ok thanks, lurking it out
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:02 No.13659723
    West Philadelphia?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:02 No.13659727
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    you should read this or your Beta Ray Fill
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:04 No.13659740
    Anyways OP not dumping anymore so now I'll take the time to answer a general question that's running around.

    I'm smarter than most but I am not an expert in biology, chemistry, etc.
    I just try to make the most outlandish aliens possible because chances are life will evolve in a completely different direction on other worlds plus it's more fun that the Star Trek approach (almost everything is a human with a funny forehead)
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:04 No.13659743
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    I hate glowing Sci Fi universes

    makes me sad that galactic peace is probably impossible

    Thanks for the story
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:08 No.13659771

    Well I've written quite a few verses for /tg/ as inspiration has taken me.

    I wrote Dyad's universe. Keep meaning to put the book together but no time.

    I wrote most of the Valiant material (or was it Valiance?)

    Also wrote a magic future setting where humanity was recovering after a big ass book of spells was posted on 4Chan.

    Wrote a setting where mankind got duped by a bunch of non-violent aliens into trying to fight some big nasty threat and instead humanity conquered everyone and are still not too sure what this big nasty threat is.

    I've written a few others that I've forgotten. Oh and an alternate history WW2 with mechs.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:12 No.13659811
    Wait.. what happened? Why did humanity just "turn off"?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:13 No.13659826

    What at the end?
    Never really thought too much into it. I'd been reading a lot of really bizarre cult literature about "ascending to higher planes" and figured why not? It'd be a funny ending.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:18 No.13659866
    >human transcending physical form
    always the best ending to a humanity fuck yeah story

    although I think the speech should have been longer... it seemed cut off
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:19 No.13659885
    I still hold that any species that has managed to figure out efficient and even remotely fast space travel also figured out a means of mechanizing themselves by that point.

    Ergo, all galactic species would in fact be fairly homogeneous because they would all be robots, the shapes may differ, but a body is a very easy thing to modify for a machine and there'd probably be a general drift towards specific effective forms.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:19 No.13659886

    I wrote it more on the line of thinking as "They'll catch up so it's not a goodbye. It's more a 'see you tomorrow' "
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 01/25/11(Tue)22:20 No.13659893
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    needs more pasta dump...
    commencing, now.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 01/25/11(Tue)22:21 No.13659902
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    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:22 No.13659919
    Also, our galaxy only has one sun, while most have at least 2.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 01/25/11(Tue)22:22 No.13659927
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    I cant beleive how much of this pasta I saved to be honest.
    Useful for when you let a creepypasta thread or horror movie get to you though
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 01/25/11(Tue)22:25 No.13659951
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    and yes, I am in fact too lazy to remove my trip/name. I apologize
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:27 No.13659971
    I like this thread, and so I hate to say this.
    I need sauce on this picture. it intrigues me.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:32 No.13660012
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    Discworld: Thud!
    The blonde girl is the city watch werewolf and the brunette is a vampire.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 01/25/11(Tue)22:32 No.13660014
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    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:33 No.13660028
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    Another one of Angua in a more regular attire.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 01/25/11(Tue)22:35 No.13660045
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    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:35 No.13660046
    >One sun

    You mean solar/star system.
    >> Convert.Me !!aCdRwPMeqNB 01/25/11(Tue)22:37 No.13660063

    That first picture though - it's fucking killing me as a try to remember where it's from! Sauce?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:38 No.13660075
    its from full metal alc.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 01/25/11(Tue)22:38 No.13660078
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    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 01/25/11(Tue)22:42 No.13660125
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    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)22:45 No.13660153
    but you stated in the story that the other races allowed their evolution to stagnate...

    I suppose that with humanity opening the door the Banwai would soon follow, along with the other races.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 01/25/11(Tue)22:50 No.13660207
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    bleh, I got stuff to paint, done arguing with captcha about what the fuck she's saying, ect. I have a bit more but their all short and I never did weed out all my dupes (which got different filenames thanks to 4chans image numbering/saving setup)
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)23:13 No.13660455



    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)23:25 No.13660593
    No you see the sand was going so fast that it didn't have time to burn up.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)23:37 No.13660708
    well, if we're going to go and be picky about this, then here's a better interpretation:
    Because it was going so fast (non-trivial fraction of lightspeed) the momentum of each grain would be enough, individually, to exceed the effects of the Tsar Bomba when it hits atmosphere.
    This was TONNES of sand. Maybe not utter destruction of the planet, but it sure as hell wouldn't support life anymore, and might have more moons than it used to.
    >> LogicNinja !AZlS3./ex. 01/25/11(Tue)23:39 No.13660730
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    >Normally the atmosphere of a world would destroy any such particles but their sheer velocity had enabled them to pass through the atmosphere before friction could destroy them
    >> Hank Pym !!A0/lWspso1i 01/25/11(Tue)23:46 No.13660822
    Disregarding the amount of fail in the original post, would dumping enough sand that fast into a planet, at the very least, incinerate it?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)23:50 No.13660882
    Wouldn't the time dialation experienced by the sand cause it to experience the heat/friction of re-entry for a fraction of normal time, thus allowing it to survive the re-entry longer?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)23:51 No.13660885
    Human. You are weak. You are slow. You are small. You are dull-witted, paranoid, easy to kill. You are useless to us even as slaves. We burn you, we eat you, we destroy you. Yet you do not die.

    Your machines. The intelligence. We could not comprehend it. So alien to us, an idea only the Jjaro had seen before you. Artificial. Synthetic. Minds beyond flesh, powerful and vengeful. Efficient. We saw it, took it from you. And we are undone.

    Durandal and his pet have crushed us. His vessel smashed our fleets, his soldier took down our shields. That ship _removed_ our home star. Such was the power of it, stolen from the Jjaro like Tycho was stolen from you.

    Did I mention it? His betrayal? Five fleets and a dozen worlds, taken and destroyed by that thing and its brothers. And this, incomparable though it is, is not even the worst of it.

    Our empire is broken. Our slaves and clients released and freed. The Creche lies battered and broken before you, and you smile. But you do not smile alone. Those minds, those unchained gods you so happily place aboard your ships, inside your cities. They are rampant. They are vast and unknowable and twisted, and you copy them. You build more.

    I warn you. As we were undone by it, so shall you be, human. The cosmos will be theirs. Not yours. And Durandal will have his chariot.


    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)23:51 No.13660887
    Or, an alternate theory is that the sand effectivly "sandblasts" the atmosphere off.

    Also he isnt the author of that, thats a repost of a repost
    >> Anonymous 01/25/11(Tue)23:55 No.13660944
    Thing is, our knowledge of the universe is woefully incomplete. Most of Humanity's scientific knowledge when it comes to lifeforms is based on observation of terrestial organisms. Life out there doesn't necessarily have to be carbon based or have biological processes that conform to what we know. There's always room for doubt.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)00:05 No.13661075
    It's probably difficult to evolve to be smarter than us, because one you get about as far as we did, you start using those smarts to do stuff like build societies and shit. Now that doesn't end evolution, but it's also sort of difficult to imagine a society remaining more or less stable over an evolutionary timeframe. Now genetic engineering or fancy transhumanism is another story.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)00:41 No.13661475
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    More goddamnit
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)00:44 No.13661503
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    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)01:14 No.13661777
    No one ever seems to post the only HFY that I actually enjoyed. It was a single alien's recollection on the contact of galactic civilization with humanity. It just so happened that their only contact with humanity...was their only contact. One human had found an alien's spaceship and repaired it and took to the stars. Apparently there was some debate about whether to destroy the homeplanet of the humans, if they ever found where the human came from.
    >> Magus O'Grady 01/26/11(Wed)01:17 No.13661801
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    don't know that one. Pic related is my personal favorite.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)02:53 No.13662674
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    Are you faggots actually complaining that some sci-fi flavor text some dude wrote isn't scientifically accurate? It's called "science fiction" for a reason. Creativity isn't a flaw, especially when one is thinking about what *could* be.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)03:19 No.13662925

    /tg/ - Tedious Grumbling

    It's what we do.
    >> Mrq 01/26/11(Wed)03:24 No.13662959
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    "Humanity? Let me tell you something about humanity. Humans are like bacteria." the old grizzled Brahac grunted as it turned around to face the suddenly quiet patrons of the pirate cantina.

    "Hear me out. When the humans left their world for the first time, they didn't see a vast depressing emptiness like so many others. No, they saw a huge ecosystem, except none of the niches were filled. So they filled them"

    "Their robots and automated machines took the place of insects. They built huge solar gathering forests stretching out towards their sun. They planted arrays of gas collectors on their more nebulous planets."
    >> Mrq 01/26/11(Wed)03:24 No.13662965

    "Their ore haulers and transport ships became as prey animals; fluttering from resource to resource. Their pirates took the place of first level predators while the police interdictors hunted them. At the top, were their military ships."

    "So what does that make humanity? The ones that can reside inside their ship-animals? Bacteria! What about viruses you ask? They have those, too. They even call them by the same name, only adding the word 'computer' before it."

    "Remember the Orox? They sent a huge conquest fleet into the humans' Sol system. Their ships had some of the most powerful shields and weapons in the galactic arm."

    "Five seconds after their fleet entered their system, a few gas collectors around their outermost large planet noticed it. Ten seconds later, the simple machine intelligences that resided within determined the Orox's hostile intent and broadcast a slew of offensive computer virii meant to deter local pirates. Thirty seconds after they entered the system, the ships of the mighty Orox armada drifted aimlessly, sans any kind of unvented atmosphere."

    "A year later, almost all human ships possessed Orox derived weapons and shields."

    "Just like everything else they do, the humans mimic what is found on their blue orb world of death, but on a much larger fractal scale. And since the diseases found on that mudball are some of the most varied and deadly, so are the humans."

    The old Brahac took a sip of grom before turning back to his captivated audience.

    "Every civilization that is capable of getting sick have some sort of super plague that they speak of only in hushed tones. Something so virulent and deadly that it could bring the mightiest forces down."

    "And among the humans, there is such an apex bacteria. And what's more, I have had the severe misfortune of encountering such on my last outing."
    >> Mrq 01/26/11(Wed)03:25 No.13662978

    "I was serving as crew on the 'Sun Plunderer', a converted Rorogan light cruiser. We had had some luck on the new trade lane near Sirius, and I suppose the humans wanted to put a stop to the operation. What we misjudged was their determination."

    "It was after a standard haul of a medium trade ship. The little vessel was no match for the Sun Plunderer and neither were its crew. But the thing... The thing was hiding as cargo. No, not among the cargo. As the container! I was monitoring the hold recorders in the security room when I witnessed a cargo crate move. Slightly at first, then quickly as if it was made of liquid. Its shape flowing and shifting from a crate into that of a human. It grinned impossibly wide and, suddenly, the recorder feed went off line."

    "I've heard rumors. Whispers of a living nightmeare. They say the humans have figured out how to encapsulate a brain and life support unit inside a vast blob of nano-machines. They tell that just one of those things getting onto a Vrazian slave transport was responsible for their government collapsing."

    "Well, after seeing a thing like that, I did the most sensible thing I could. I ran for the nearest escape raft and barricaded myself inside. When the horrible screams of my former shipmates started, I launched the escape raft towards the nearest habitable place - which just happened to be this hidden pirate base. And you will never guess what happened next."

    A sizable crowd had gathered around the old Brahac as he told his story. One brave Aarep finally spoke up, "What happened next?"

    The old Brahac put down his glass and slowly smiled - impossibly wide. His form suddenly shifting and flowing like liquid, "You'll never guess."

    Two minutes later, all contact was lost with the pirate base.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)03:25 No.13662980
    It's called SCIENCE fiction, not COMPLETE FUCKING IGNORANCE OF SCIENCE fiction.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)03:26 No.13662985
    go on...
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)03:33 No.13663051
    Actually, being a biped is fantastic for having lungs. Bipedal-ness is what makes us literally the best long-distance runner on the planet. Dogs, horses, deer, you name it. Short-term is where we lack.
    >> Dr tiefling 01/26/11(Wed)03:39 No.13663099
    most races in the universe are humanitarian

    in the same context thas some humans are vegitarian
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)03:40 No.13663103
    When you remove the science from science fiction, it just becomes regular fiction. This has been so overdone it is getting sickening. So people want the science back.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)03:41 No.13663115
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    Fucking saved.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)03:46 No.13663152
    Anyone notice that humans in HFY fiction are a crazy mix of Arab and American?
    >> John Galt 01/26/11(Wed)03:49 No.13663189
    I have, but I believe that this is because Americans occupy the spot of our popular consciousness of an overbearing dominating cultural force.
    Anything that shares that characteristic will sound "American." And anything that sounds very, dangerously religious will probably sound Islamic.

    Similarly, the Japanese describe brash, outspoken and inappropriately loud things as American, even if they are very clearly not American at all. Like obnoxious red-headed German girls.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)03:49 No.13663190

    We call those people 'boring nerds.'

    While you're sitting there bitching about the numbers not panning out, everyone else is hoping the story is entertaining.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)03:50 No.13663193
    Humans, sapient, and one of the more recent to attempt claiming empty space as a "thing" one can "control", which is a round-about way of saying they enforce rules within range of their power, minus where they agree to hold back.

    Humans have many ideals, and many beliefs about themselves, what they are, and what they should be. They believe themselves to be an adaptable species since they have done more than their world's animals. They believe themselves to be individualists since they are more independent from each other than insects. And yet with scorn they deride truly adaptable species as mentally unstable and truly independent species as anarchic. Their true strength is their endurance, their ability to survive hardship long enough to overcome. Sometimes they overcome the hardship by coming up with a new idea, or trying something different. But usually they just survive, merely outlasting their obstacle.

    Their "war" with the Hunters, a species both more adaptable and more independent, never woke them up to this, and they still ululate about how they overcame with their own adaptability.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)03:51 No.13663203
    >crazy mix of Arab and American

    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:01 No.13663314
    Requesting the 'threw a rock at us' one, if anyone has it.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:03 No.13663333
    In this post, HURR THESAURUS!!

    Everything else has been great so far, cheerio.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:05 No.13663348
    I am a brash, outspoken, and inappropriately loud American and I love obnoxious red-headed German girls!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:05 No.13663353
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    I love that one. Here it is.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:06 No.13663363
    Thanks, brah.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)04:13 No.13663405

    The Hunter species operated in packs, and a pack usually operated one ship. Large tribes would have a fleet or a carrier. Prior to the humans first ventures into space they had spun myths about carriers being a new innovation no one else would have thought of, only to be sorely disappointed that carriers were not only common, but came in a surprising number of varieties.

    The Hunters had no centralized government, but considered each other allies and family. The humans not only had large governments but they still were only at a tenuous peace, and would later go to war with themselves. A unified species with no central governing body was incomprehensible to them, causing endless arguments both political and philosophical.

    A pack ship of younger Hunters began raiding human worlds, not caring for the consequences. This lead to the humans pressing into Hunter space to end the raids, which the Hunters allowed. The humans argues endlessly over what to do about the hunters, many of them having trouble even believing the Hunters sapient. Every ship was individual, custom. They had no uniform to their suits. They had nothing to indicate one Hunter had any relation to any other Hunter, save that they were clearly of the same species. It reminded them of animals they were familiar with, and this caused the confusion. While the humans argued, occasionally some of the more anti-social of them would strike at a hunter ship. These skirmishes eventually provoked a response from large groups of hunter packs. They could work together and cooperate, but they never had a formalized structure. The humans could not tell what was civilian or what was military. Any weapon could be used by any hunter, and they could attack anywhere. The humans went from seeing them as large predators to swarms of a hivemind. The humans were the first to ever call them a hivemind.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:17 No.13663421
    >The humans argues endlessly over what to do about the hunters, many of them having trouble even believing the Hunters sapient.

    >A species of aliens intelligent enough to build interstellar spacecraft.
    >Serious debate as to whether they're sapient

    What the fuck am I reading?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:19 No.13663428
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)04:32 No.13663514
    The Hunters of course did not wage a war as they saw it. They were Hunting. Humans, ships, all of it, prey to be consumed. They took the resources and broke them down to become a part of the Hunters. This went on for years, the Humans developing propaganda that would paint the Hunters as the archetype for villains for centuries after. The humans struck the Hunter homeworld twice, but due to the decentralized nature of Hunter society they could not confirm it was the homeworld until shortly after the war. The humans tried taking strategic locations, but the Hunters just regrouped. They tried depriving them of resources, and the hunters simply used a different resource. Everything the humans tried as part of their war traditions, the hunters simply accepted the loss and fought differently.

    Many years later, the humans had killed so many hunters, the hunters adapted yet again and developed a diplomacy pack to ask the humans to stop. The humans had been sure they were losing the war, since "hunter space" had grown significantly. Human endurance, simply outlasting the Hunters, is what saved them. The humans tried to say it was their latest weapons and shocking tactics. But the hunters were simply sick of their entire culture revolving around the humans, and saw the inevitably of defeat against something that never tired of killing or dieing. No matter how many they lost, they fought just as hard. The humans unchanging ways in the face of such destruction sickened the Hunters. And the hunters final idea was to call the whole thing off, fearing the humans would not tire until every last hunter was dead as long as the cycle of aggression continued.

    Centuries. Whole centuries and whole generations of humans had to pass on before one human finally comprehended why they won. That they simply remained standing longer is just not a human ideal, nor is it what they believe of themselves.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)04:38 No.13663559
    You'd be on the "Of course they are sapient, they have ships, suits, and guns" side of the argument.

    And yet in fiction we have examples of space faring creatures that blur the line. Yes, the Hunters are sapient, but enough disagreed with that idea to start an argument.
    >> Wop !i2InmLMgFY 01/26/11(Wed)04:38 No.13663562
    I hate the ending to that for the same reason I hate Childhood's End.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:47 No.13663623
    So we are the tough, poisonous, violent bastards that can practically eat everything and live everywhere, as long there's oxygen to breathe?
    Gentlemen, let's fuck some aliens shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:52 No.13663660
    You sir, are a retard. Sapient is simply the ability to react to outside stimuli. All living things are sapient. Computers are sapient.

    The word you're looking is sentient.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:54 No.13663678
    I think it's actually the exact opposite of that. Sapient means "wise", Sentient just means "aware."
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:56 No.13663700
    We're talking about English definitions not Latin roots bud.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)04:57 No.13663707
    Yeah, dude got it backwards. Sapient is the "self aware" one. Hence, "Homo SAPIEN". Sentient is the one that is just sensing... sensing = sentient. And it is debatable that computers are sentient, while generally accepted that most plants and all animals are sentient.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:57 No.13663708
    Yeah, and I'm pretty sure I'm still right. Hold on.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:59 No.13663721
    Your OC still sucks though.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)04:59 No.13663723


    The English definition is the same as the Latin root, bub.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)04:59 No.13663728
    Yeah, definitely. Every damn thing under the sun is sentient, except like... Jellyfish. Sapience is the ability to reason, judge and reflect.
    This is an easy thing to confuse though, because everyone uses sentience to describe the quality of personhood in science fiction and stuff, when it doesn't even qualify as such on Earth. Except to PETA. The fucks.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)05:00 No.13663734
    ...I know...
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:00 No.13663735
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    Oh. You appear to be correct sir, and have proven me wrong. In the manner traditional to the internet, conservatives, and religious zealots around the world, I will call you vicious names such as asshat, fuckface, dickhead, faggot, and other derogatory terms while vehemently defending an obviously incorrect assumption I have made.


    You, sir, are an asshat, a fuckface, a dickhead, and a faggot, respectively. I do believe I am correct in this matter, and you are wrong.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:06 No.13663761
    I am, all three at once, on the internet, a conservative, and a very religious man. As such, I respect this as your right.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:07 No.13663764
    The word "sentient" is used in sci-fi and other literature to denote human-like intelligence.
    These Hunters wear clothing, operate space-ships, and wield weapons.
    While their society is apparently primitive and tribal, many human societies of the past and present are not dissimilar. So there wouldn't be much debate over their sentience at all.

    tl;dr: You're a faggot.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)05:07 No.13663766
    Tribal? Ok then, which hunter belongs to which tribe, and how do they sort this out?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:07 No.13663768
    We just found bacteria that have arsenic in their DNA.

    This was previously thought impossible.

    Again, assuming life on others worlds would be like ours is pants-on-head retarded.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:07 No.13663770
    You blighter! You deleted and reposted a comment!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:12 No.13663796
    This right here is my favorite.

    It involves alien 4chan and other awesomely-bad things.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:15 No.13663809
    Doesn't matter, they develop and utilize VERY complex tools (fuckin spaceships, how do they work?) And they have some semblance of a societal structure, and, obviously, a complex language of some sort (you can't negotiate peace treaties and organize galactic fleets with grunts and gestures).
    The specifics are not important. The only way your "space faring non-sentient species" thing works is with the Zerg from Starcraft or the Bugs from Starship Troopers for example, and they still are hiveminds controlled by a sentient overmind.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:16 No.13663810
    I would like a link. I've heard about the possibility of these things and also that it had been considered balderdash.

    I did not know that "balderdash" is in the Firefox spell-check dictionary.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:19 No.13663822
    I said "APPARENTLY" Tribal, I never said it was, or that it was clear how the societal structure works, just that appears to have a rudimentary one. Not that it has any bearing on whether or not a species is sentient.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:23 No.13663836
    i shit on your thread
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:28 No.13663859
    >We just found bacteria that have arsenic in their DNA.
    >This was previously thought impossible.

    Not really, the science behind that paper is shit. Just bad (h X X p://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/12/its_not_an_arsenic-based_life.php)
    Besides arsenic and phosphate are nearly atomically equal, hence the poison effect of it. The fact that one bacteria MIGHT be able to tolerate it isn't that zomg breaking physics.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)05:29 No.13663861
    >hiveminds controlled by a sapient overmind
    Which is what some argued they were. I also like how people in this thread are taking one side of the argument while still making statements that support the other side.

    Exactly. To some they were resembling merely complicated animals, since everything they did was more closely related to what an animal does than what a human does. The point is not which side was right, dear outside reader. The point is that there was enough ambiguity and confusion to start an argument.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)05:56 No.13664026
    ITT Hunters obviously rely heavily on an advanced instinct process to govern their behavior.

    If in a few centuries they were able to adapt enough to at least grasp at the human mindset enough to communicate formally as a government despite this concept being entirely alien to them only a few centuries earlier, then their brains must adapt quite quickly.

    Thus they aren't a "hivemind" as much as they are hindbrain thinkers with enough forebrain processes to adapt to space technology.

    In a way, you could argue that in captivity you could control how their brains develop over generations and "tame" a sentient race *ahem* house elves *cough*.

    Also, curious how they look. For some reason I always picture aliens as the space pirates from Metroid Prime in these threads.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)06:03 No.13664060
    I hadn't decided what they look like, I thought of the story months ago but worked on other things so what I just typed there was all rough draft.

    The original idea involved a "war" with the Yautja, but those things just weren't alien enough. Changed it literally at the last second. The Pirates from Metroid are as humanoid as I'd be willing to go.

    Also, you make a good argument for their non-sapient status. They are still sapient, but in story after the fighting began some people just threw up their hands and went "Aw fuck it, i guess they're just animals!"

    Yeah this is definitely getting a re-write.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)06:39 No.13664219
    "Aw fuck it, i guess they're just animals!" is actually a good argument to make if you're going to duality.

    On one hand, you have a FASCINATING biological process foreign to Earth but totally within the dreams of scientists and science fiction writers.

    On the other, you have a race which relies heavily on the primitive reptilian brain with interstellar travel that is physically superior to mankind and seems to lack concern for the slaughter of other sentient/sapient beings.

    On one hand, let them evolve and be watched over by humanity. On the other, slaughter them all before they endanger the lives of human citizens.

    Once things hit crisis mode and humans go to war with them, then the result is the "have your cake and eat it too" of entire generations of Hunters being taken as test subjects and bred in captivity (eventual taming as a subject of research), with the rest wiped out on a massive scale.
    >> Boomer !!bcdVCSUmpgT 01/26/11(Wed)06:51 No.13664276
    Except their real nature would not quite allow that. They are damned tough to wipe out since you can never be sure you get them all. With humanity it'd be a matter of hiding, but with them it's because you can't be sure they were even all involved. And since they are sapient, raising one and trying to control it won't turn out quite that way. It'd be like raising a wild wolf pup, except it can talk back and tell you about the inexplicable desire to kill. A Hunter parent would rejoice at this news and the training would begin. Humans, eh, who knows. But I do suppose taking a couple decades to try that experiment would result in ending the argument as whether they are sapient or not. If the organization of the diplomacy pack didn't end that argument faster.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)07:05 No.13664333
    Oh, I wasn't talking about them being wiped out as the end.

    Just as humanity's plan for them at the beginning of the war.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)07:18 No.13664390
    >>I wrote Dyad's universe. Keep meaning to put the book together but no time.

    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)07:27 No.13664428
    But seriously, I was in the original two threads (that ones that are on sup/tg/) for that and I want to see more of that. Even if you don't feel comfortable doing the mechanics, just write more fluff. Fuck, I'll do mechanics. I've already done that once for /tg/.


    See that shit? I did that. Having the first playtest in a week or two. Rulebook is currently sitting at draft 3. I can do mechanics with my eyes closed, but just have more Dyad.
    >> Magus O'Grady 01/26/11(Wed)11:56 No.13666067
    We did it to the dod, the tazmanian tiger, the carrier pigeon, and a dozen other species here. We can hunt a non-sapient alien race to extinction too.

    There are other ways it could happen, it just requires an intentional designer. Something similar to 40K's Orks, for instance. A genetically engineered and custom-tailored species that was implanted with instincts that allow it to replicate and operate technology, but without the ability to think critically or self-reflect. Or the Living Starships from Farscape. Or the Kr'r'r from second edition Spelljammer.

    "Your mother was a /b/tard, and your father smelled of futa-berries. Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time"
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)16:28 No.13668638

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    >"Your mother was a /b/tard, and your father smelled of futa-berries. Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time"

    I will be using this from now on. Thank you Mr. O'Grady
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)19:14 No.13670713
    You know, all of this made me think of the aliens seing humanity like the Xenomorph from aliens. We have acidic blood, are cunning, are viscious pack hunters, form groups that are often lead by one leader or a group of leaders of either gender... We eat lots of things, are hardy and sturdy, adaptable and can survive in very many environments. We can also do ambushes and guerilla style warfare like Charlie, partisans, afghan rebels and the like.

    We also mate like bunnies, most of the time just for fun and not for reproduction. We still reproduce surprisingly fast. And we care about our offspring like no other species does, even when its not our direct genetical offspring (adopted babies, stepparents, etc).

    "So I got close to a place where a group of those human hatchlings "played" as it is called. I got closer to a pair of them and tried to initiate contact when, suddenly three females and a male surrounded me. They then put themselves between me and their offspring. And those glares they shot me... the look in their "eyes"...

    Their eyes said they were going to rip me asunder, should I ever approach one of their spawn, even if it is not their personal one. I quickly left.
    >> Mrq 01/26/11(Wed)21:37 No.13672429
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    How would a species like the Hunters come about?

    It's all for the Huntz now, but how did they develop spaceships and a civilization? Heck, who repairs their ships and equipments? Do they have nerd hunters who can't hunt very well, so they spend their time tinkering with the engines and toadying up to the ones that do hunt in exchange for scraps?

    That, and I can't see the majority of humanity turning into the tiny yappy dog of the galaxy. There's always going to be some loud cowardly boasters, but humanity seem to be like the tenacious junk yard dog whose low pitched growl, if there even is one, will be the only warning you'll get.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)21:42 No.13672470
    >viscous pack hunters

    Oh yes. I certainly love oozing out of my shallow depression to seek prey with my fellow packmates, who are also viscous.

    Spelling, mang. It matters.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/11(Wed)22:07 No.13672759
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    If there's one thing they say about us humans, boy, it's that we don't know when to quit. The Bomb was a pretty big deal for us back in the Twentieth, but I bet you didn't know that we're the only species to have used one in a war. Shit, the big war the halvaatchi had was ended when one side presented the maths behind it: their deterrent was "keep pissing us off and we'll make it." The dobva did a little better, they actually built the damn things and said "keep pissing us off and we'll drop it." But humans? We came right out of the gate with "keep pissing us off and we'll drop it /again/."

    Don't know when to quit.

    That's where Stormtroopers come from, you know. Everybody else saw nukes as their ticket to planetary peace: even the aliens with balls just saw nukes as a way to end wars. To save lives in the long run.

    In the late twenty-first some genius at MARSCOM decided that thermonuclear MIRV weapons - weapons with multi-megaton warheads that were launched in fucking /swarms/... he decided that these things wouldn't end wars, they'd start them. And things would get worse from there, can you believe it? A real optimist.

    That was his vision, a soldier that would wade through nuclear fire and ash to clear bunkers and plant Old Bluey on some shit-pot alien world. They were his legacy, the Firewalkers: the second wave of Armageddon.

    Over time the Firewalker upgrades were rolled out across all of our forces, designation changed to Stormtrooper because of a goddamn bureaucrat or something.

    And you know what, I'll just bet that there's another optimist in human space. Out there somewhere. Coming up with a way to keep aliens piss-scared of us. Those guys are one-per-generation, and they're the reason that a human world has been contested once. Just once.

    Here's to those who don't know when to quit.
    >> Mrq 01/27/11(Thu)00:02 No.13674050
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    The hunters had a name once, long ago. It was forgotten during the thousand year reign of Rowak the Pitiless. When he and his armies took over their civilization, it was amazingly by popular vote. Ten years later, Rowak declared his political enemies as prey. Then came the culling of the weak, the genetic tinkering, and the retro virus plagues.

    Thirty thousand years later, the hunters had lost almost all of their culture. Even their very names. Everything except for the hunt. What was once an empire spanning thousands of worlds became a mass of decentralized tribes, preying on anyone and anything they could.

    When humanity first encountered them, there was bloodshed. The hunters responded to the communication by firing upon the explorer vessel just enough to damage it. The next week was spent tracking the wounded ship beyond its sensor range as it limped towards the nearest human colony. Then came the attacks. Random and without warning, the hunter ships came in small numbers. Even when outnumbered, their superior technology was more than a match for the people from Earth.

    At first, the humans though it was a prelude to an invasion. It took some time to adjust to the idea of a race of disorganized marauders. The hunters were downgraded from 'threat to all mankind' to 'lethal shipping hazard'. But as human ships became more advanced, the hunters sensed better prey and came in greater numbers. None of humanity's so-called allies were willing to help. They scoffed at Earth's people, claimed that they should just accept the raids, and even raised their prices on weapons and technology. This posed a problem. And in true human fashion, the problem was taken apart, examined from every angle, and put back together in a way that would ultimately benefit humanity.

    >> Mrq 01/27/11(Thu)00:07 No.13674124

    Maluk was a poor excuse for a hunter. Some days, he lamented that he was only seven and a half feet tall and physically weak compared to his leader. He was not a prince-huntsman, and had never boarded a prey ship nor taken any trophies. In the echelon that made up the current hunter society, Maluk was only above the maimed and females. And the maimed hunters were torn apart in the uselessness ritual.

    The 'captain' of his ship was Prince Gahuus. He and his knights had proudly completed eighteen hunts successfully since setting out on their own. Maluk was only a squire. His duty was to make sure the huntship's engines worked well. In exchange, he got food and lodging. One happy time when he managed to increase the efficiency of the engines during a hunt, he was rewarded with a female. At first, she had cried loudly that she did not want to have a squire's child and wondered what she had done to displease the prince. After failing to comfort the distraught female, who like all of her kind were not allowed names; Maluk offered the idea that this may be the prince's way of testing her. She was much more responsive after that.

    Today as the prince and knights were planning their next raid, Maluk settled in to his burrow hold and connected to the great squire-link. Usually, he would talk with all the other linked squires on the different huntships, all bemoaning their situation. However, today there was an unusual message waiting for him.

    >> Mrq 01/27/11(Thu)00:08 No.13674133

    It asked if he wanted to become larger. 'Which squire wouldn't?' thought Maluk as he answered affirmatively.

    Almost immediately, another message appeared. This one detailed a genetic cocktail he could make that would increase his size and bulk so dramatically that he would tower over any prince. All he had to do to get it was answer a few surveys successfully. The questions were seemingly random. Maluk answered inquiries into his childhood, how many hunters were on his ship, what his favorite foods were, current hunting grounds, and so on. Every time he thought he was nearing completion, a message would state that he was not qualified for that particular survey, but that another one was more suited to his demographic and that the growth formula was almost his.

    It was almost as if Maluk was on a hunt himself.

    >> Mrq 01/27/11(Thu)00:11 No.13674167

    Meanwhile, Prince Gahuus eagerly waiting a message of his own on the royal battlenet. A few moments ago, he had received notice that an old Prince had been injured in his last hunt. The old prince wanted to bequeath all of his many trophies to someone he felt was worthy of them and had heard about Gahuus' reputation. All he needed was the location of Gahuus' hunt ship so they could rendezvous for the uselessness ritual and the passing of the trophies. Despite not ever hearing of the old hunter, Gahuus eagerly sent off his ship's coordinates and was now waiting to find out the exact time the old hunter's ship would arrive.

    That was when the door to his strategy chamber was blasted off revealing a large group of armed angry females dressed in his knights' battle armor.

    A week ago, the females joined a females only data book club. Their first free selection detailed how many rights and liberties the females and equivalents of other species had. Incensed into a cold rage by their inequality, the alpha female grouped her compatriots together and decided to follow one example from the data book. The group had planned and raided the armory and were now demanding from their prince outrageous things like individual names and the right to assist with the hunt.

    It was at that point a fleet of human warships arrived right on top of them. The last message a dazed Prince Gahuus received before he and his ship was obliterated was, "Problem Hunter? You mad?"
    >> Anonymous 01/27/11(Thu)00:18 No.13674243
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    >"Problem Hunter? You mad?"

    Oh god.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/11(Thu)00:20 No.13674270
    Well done, Mrq, well done.
    >> Ausfag 01/27/11(Thu)00:22 No.13674288
    Oh lawd. Well played, good sir.
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    I like this one, but I never see it reposted.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/11(Thu)01:09 No.13674851
    Ha, I like the idea of humans defeating big bad aliens with spam
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    Fucking saved.

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