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    75 KB Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:34 No.9878984  
    I'm just going to leave this here.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:35 No.9878992
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:35 No.9878999
    Inb4 200 replies
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:35 No.9879002
    Yes and No
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:35 No.9879005
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    Get out.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:37 No.9879022
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:38 No.9879045
    >old WoD
    >Had Toreadors
    >nWoD is the one that's similar to twilight
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:39 No.9879059
    inb4 ScaredofShadows
    >> Lovely Lee !!Hp6axRcygFE 05/17/10(Mon)16:39 No.9879060
    rolled 31 = 31

    not quite, considering nWoD is older than Twilight.

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:40 No.9879072
    I'm glad we agree nWoD is better OP
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:42 No.9879093
    Strangely, Shits-his-fursuit would actually be an improvement...
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:42 No.9879098
    Well, nWoD have the Daeva, who are even more sparkle-pretty.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:43 No.9879122
    Strange, for being older, it captures the sparkly faggotry of Twilight astoundingly good.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:43 No.9879127
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    OP here.

    Pic related, it's how I feel about what you just said.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:44 No.9879143
    No, it's just you. You're literally the only person in the world who likes sparkling faggotry better than actual vampires.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:45 No.9879148
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:45 No.9879151
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    Pic related, nWoD in the hands of a competent GM.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:45 No.9879156
    im an oWoD fag and even I know nWoD is better. Stop trollan OP.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:45 No.9879158
    Not enough trenchcoats and katanas.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:46 No.9879164
    Just for this:

    Shit a nWoD fanboy likes about oWoD:

    - The metaplot didn't interfere with games, because it was terribly easy to ignore. The core rulebooks never really changed as a result of it, it was largely a delivery system for new material to take or leave. oWoD storytellers in general didnt give a shit what was 'canon' unless it improved their game.

    - Actual, in practice games were generally angst-free. We all had *that* player, but in general groups are tight knit and in it for the laughs. Betrayal is taken well, combat isn't an impossiblity.

    - The core products have enough material to last a nuclear war and bigger than life archetypes which makes introducing new players a lot easier, imo, than nWoD.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:46 No.9879165
    edition wars = unparalleled faggotry
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)16:46 No.9879177
    No they aren't.

    Daeva are Succubi, but that's because they're seductive and manipulative.
    Except that they don't necessarily need to have the Vice of Pride or Lust.

    If a Daeva has the Vice of Wrath, then that means they're going to just beat the everloving shit out of everyone who pisses them off.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:47 No.9879189

    Good movie & book.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:47 No.9879198
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    Well played OP.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:49 No.9879232
    Daeva are more like Ann Rice's vampires than anything else. They're vice (and a bit of virtue) junkies, they do w/e gets their fix. If you got a vice of lust, you'll be hitting all the local BDSM clubs. Vice of gambling, it's the casinos.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:52 No.9879268
    Hey look, it's an edition war thread.
    Wow, this is all totally new and fascinating stuff!
    It's almost like we all don't pretend to be vampires and werewolves, and everything!
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:52 No.9879269
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:54 No.9879307

    Every time I think of the Toreador weakness, I now think of DAT ASS.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)16:57 No.9879356
    Oh, I know. I dislike the Daeva.
    But they can be more than just the Anne Rice faggo--THE CARNIVAL.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:00 No.9879389

    Toreador were pretty much a joke clan. They were the faggy Twilight/Anne Rice vamps who existed to mope about how unlife is so bleak and meaningless while all the other clans laugh at them and get shit done.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:01 No.9879399
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    Toreador is /v/
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:04 No.9879434
    nWoD is crap compared to the first one. It doesn't have nearly the same charm. It doesn't have a good, intriguing plot like the first. Sure it allows "more liberties and freedom to create a character", but in the process it just destroyed the unique and fascinating atmosphere of fear,paranoia and ambition which could be found on oWoD.

    If nothing else, the new clans, "daeva" and such, SUCK SHIT, almost as much as the exclusion of the original, fascinating old clans.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:05 No.9879441
    Toreador is /adv/, bro.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:06 No.9879453
    well all /v/ does is whine too.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:07 No.9879465
    I loved oWoD, but I could see past the obvious jokes of the Toreador. Sure, they were played frequently as trainwrecks of vapid, one-way love affairs, stalker-esque romances and the inevitable "But, I love her!" confrontations with the other PCs when they'd show up with a random 13-year old they kidnapped from a bus station... beyond that, they were also really, really fast.
    Celerity in a sparkly-fruity Clan as a natural Discipline?
    That has Win written all over it.

    A real Clan: Tzimisce. Yes, they can love, learn and 'live' like all the other Clans can, but they can make their lover into a portion of their spinal column, so they'll never be apart.

    That's the difference between a Toreador's "waah, she's a mortal and I'm gonna live forever without her" and a real Vampire's "death is only the beginning" lifestyle.

    tl;dr: Tzimisce > Toreador.
    Toreador = so ronery.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:08 No.9879475
    If nWoD predates Twilight and oWoD is much older than nWoD then how the fuck are the Toreador a parody of Twilight.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:09 No.9879489

    > Play a Thug Lyfe Toreador
    > Get killed in a club while distracted by strippers
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:09 No.9879491
    Never seek the meaning of life in a bottle of tequila, nor logic in a troll post, son.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:09 No.9879495
    Ventrue and Toreador always rubbed elbows with each other.

    As a Gangrel, I loath them both.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:10 No.9879505
    >Play a white trash Toreador
    >get distracted by NASCAR
    >Prince declares war on Toreadors
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:10 No.9879515
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    I feed on posts such as yours.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:11 No.9879521
    Tzimisce were awesome.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:11 No.9879526
    >Play a white trash Toreador
    >get distracted by NASCAR
    >replacing high art and intellectual pursuits with NASCAR

    Why is this so hilarious?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:12 No.9879537

    I know when i'm beat.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:14 No.9879564
    Cause you'd end up with Talledega Nights with Vampires?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:15 No.9879577
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    over 9000 generations in photoshop
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:16 No.9879586
    >Talledega by Night: A Toreador-Only Mini-Adventure
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:18 No.9879614

    Bobby Franks Jr. stared longingly at the distant stock car crash, his massive, primal fear of fire mixing with the aroma of burning tire wall and the orchestra of air horns. It was a heady drug, one he could not get enough of.

    "I tell you, George gonna be mad he missed this shit."
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)17:18 No.9879616
    I once wrote up a Toreador who viewed Starcraft as the ultimate form of art. He was a Koreador (ba-dum-tish), and used Celerity and Dominate and was a fan of "kekekekeke Ghoul Rush!"
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:19 No.9879623
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:21 No.9879657
    Jeeter stood beside his Prince, both in rapturous awe at the sight before them. Hypnotically bound, they were unseeing of the machinations of their 'friends' and 'allies'. Later, when the BMX expo was over, they were filled with a sense of profound lost, both for the now-dying art form they'd witnessed, but also, the candy corn they'd been eating since dusk.
    >> Admech guy 05/17/10(Mon)17:21 No.9879670
    Whatever happened to John Cobb? I seriously can't even find anything about him on the internet.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:24 No.9879705
    So, a troll edition war thread turned into How To Play an Awesome Toreador?

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:25 No.9879731
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:25 No.9879732
    >If nWoD predates Twilight and oWoD is much older than nWoD then how the fuck are the Toreador a parody of Twilight.

    Jesus Fucking Semantics, Batman. Twilight vamps are faggy Anne Rice vamps taken to their extreme. Toreador are a parody of the self-absorbed "Beautiful Misunderstood Vampire WHO JUST WANTS TO BE LOVED" archetype.

    >Never seek the meaning of life in a bottle of tequila, nor logic in a troll post, son.

    Is this some kind of metatroll or do you actually think ANYONE takes the Toreador seriously? White Wolf sure didn't.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:25 No.9879740
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    Ex-Sabbat Toreador here.

    Because rape in an art form.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:26 No.9879758
    Nah. I was trying to say "Don't be fucking retarded and reply to that post" but you just had to cut your own swath into the field of stupidity, I guess.

    Good luck with the room temperature IQ. I hereby give you your Indian name: Falls-For-Trolls.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:27 No.9879773
    Sabbat: Because Thinking Am Hard.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:28 No.9879789
    Pretty sure you got that backward sparky.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:29 No.9879811
    Not the same guy.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:30 No.9879819
    White trash NASCAR Toreador. My God, if they existed, we'd never be rid of Dale Earnhart Sr.

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:30 No.9879826

    Now you fucked up.

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:31 No.9879829
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:31 No.9879830
    I meant this guy
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:31 No.9879838

    >White trash NASCAR Toreador.

    Evil Knievel as a vampire?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:32 No.9879839
    Yeah, because you totally didn't phrase your post as if you were talking directly to the guy as if he was replying to a trollpost.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:32 No.9879843
    >Blood Brothers as pit crew
    >Tzimisce mechanic
    >recent missing school children
    >car is bigger this week than last week
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:33 No.9879861

    Spud lay in his ceramic coffin, surrounded by the most opulent artifacts of his generation. Perhaps, he mused, someone would find him and his museum. They could become enlightened. They would have the wit and spirit to awaken him, and learn about the Golden Age. What was once great about the world would become history, legend.

    It was the foolish musings of a vampire tired of his surroundings, and he knew it. There was nothing left of this value in era, and he relied in that bold future to hold some interest, not to ask him endless questions of beauty that will never return.

    Spud entered the deep, timeless sleep of death, clutching close to his chest Bradford Exchange's finest Dale Earnhardt collector's clock.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:35 No.9879880
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    Autotuner, sculpted hair, apparently all of the people there could be mistaken for women.

    "Super Junior," my ass.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:35 No.9879884
    >Sabbat: Because Thinking Am Hard.

    I think it was pretty cool when White Wolf added depth to them beyond HULK SMASH and turned them (or at least the upper echelons) into noble Antediluvian-hunters who take up weird ass alien philosophies because they tend to prove better cages for the beast than acting as if you're still human.

    Tzimisce are also god tier.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:36 No.9879886
    For the first time in several nerve-wracking weeks, Cletus knew pain was at an end. The dull, bland and lifeless world of eternity had a break in the clouds, with the moon of beauty shining down upon his pale, upturned face, welcoming it.

    The DirectTV guy had arrived, apologetic and welcomed.

    ESPN4 would be available once more.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:37 No.9879915
    ITT: /tg/ save the Toreador from themselves.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:38 No.9879921
    Definitely. Thinking Am Hard for the rank-and-file, but Evil Be Easy for the remainder. After reading their sourcebook, I ceased running all Camarilla-friendly games and stuck with the fun and excitement. Strangely, during their PCs introspective moments, I saw better roleplay then than out of every other Cam campaign I'd run. Either my technique improved or their roleplaying styles did; in any case, I was pleased.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:42 No.9879969
    Actually, the OP's troll pic is completely correct. Not because of the setting, but because of the players who are attracted to WoD, specifically V:tM/V:tR. After playing Vampire with a couple of groups, and hearing character stories from werewolf players, I have sworn off playing WoD in general. Players seem to take the stuff that should be fucking terrifying in their stride, and instead they play a game of Queer Eye For The Vampire Guy. I may make an exception for Hunter (either edition) because it's a bit less prone to feeling like I'm helping write really bad slash fiction.

    tl:dr there is truth to the trolling, but it's not the fault of the game.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:42 No.9879980
    If vampires did reals. I bet that anyone who had any remote connection to 4chan would be banned from embracing.

    It would be part of the questioning process 'So, thoughts on 4chan?' Anything less that 'Huh. what's that?' and GENUINELY (remember these guise read minds.) gets you banned.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:43 No.9879991
    >implying Tzimisce wouldn't recruit from /b/
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:43 No.9879995
    I thought the funny thing was that the Sabbat and Camarilla are basically the same at the top. Both of the higher-ups are just maintaining their power at the expense of those on the bottom of the totem-pole. Sabbat just feeds them some shit about being masters of their own destiny.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:44 No.9880012
    >oWoD - Old pop culture vampire faggotry
    >nWoD - New pop culture vampire faggotry

    I... I don't get who this is trolling. Is it just saying that the difference between editions is generational?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:45 No.9880025
    Aye, I think it's less obvious that the Camarilla are just as much "the bad guys" as the Sabbat, they just happen to be shit-scared of humanity so tend not to fuck them over as blatently - as opposed to the Sabbat who are shit-scared of a bunch of mad vampire-gods waking up and destroying the world, so really don't give a shit about humans.

    I'd say Sabbat gets more introspection because they actually expect you to be a vampire and do monstrous shit that goes against everything you used to believe, while the Camarilla leans more towards politics and currying favour.

    That said, I can imagine newfag players rapidly turning a Sabbat game into LOL I RAPE THE PRINCESS - FUCK THE MORALFAGS!!! xD.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:46 No.9880037
    I think the primary difference between Cam and Sabbat leadership is their thoughts on the use of flamethrowers; Camarilla would be opposed, unless it was during active combat with a strong supernatural element, whereas the Sabbat would be opposed to using them at bowling alleys.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:46 No.9880045
    >Queer Eye For The Vampire Guy

    I lol'd.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:48 No.9880072
    My players routinely ran into "office politics" while doing the anti-Antedulivian good deeds of the day. The power struggle dynamics were awesome, if a bit baffling at times. It worked out to be "an hour of backstabbing a friend so I can spend ten minutes stabbing an enemy's face".
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:50 No.9880096
    >implying WERE GOING BOWLING TONIGHT - DON'T FORGET YOUR FLAMETHROWER wouldn't be the Sabbat equivalent of a rave
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:51 No.9880114
    Vampire politics done right. Well played, anon.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:51 No.9880117

    It was like nothing else. Colours grew wilder, more ambitious, spilled into eachother and fought. An offensive by red spilled the world into anger as blue flushed it into melancholy. A line of chests tightened like a great knotted rope, swaying as one to the motion of the spectacle in front of them.

    Farkie agreed, this was definately the best tractor pull in the tri-county area.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:52 No.9880126

    Hunter games can be hellaciously fun, if you find a group of experienced players and one guy that knows fuck-all about the game.

    At least, that's what I gather from it. I joined in a game of Hunter: The Reckoning about a week ago after having spent zero time playing any kind of RPG before.

    Shit was excellent. At one point, I apparently ate enough damage to kill a normal person but left me alive due to Stamina. Vampire thought that a sucker punch backed with supernatural strength would kill me. I ended up taking his teeth out with a pair of pliers and the help of my associates.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:58 No.9880201
    Cristobel had seen this battle before, and every time, it was a fresh wound in his battered soul; Antietam, Gettysburg, New Orleans, all over again. Forever it would play out, time and time again, repeating the same mistakes as sons of the South met the youth of the North. Sweat, tears and pain would echo into the hallowed halls of eternity, with no real victor, or comparative losses, forevermore.

    Yankees 5, Tampa Bay Rays 4, fourth inning.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:59 No.9880220
    Toreador is /mu/
    Ventrue is /fa/
    Tremere is /x/
    Brujah is /new/
    Malkavian is /b/
    Gangrel is /an/
    Assamite is /k/
    Ravnos is /trv/
    Giovanni is /ck/
    Settites is /tg/
    Tzimize is /r9k/
    LaSombre is /r/
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:00 No.9880232
    /tg/ is obviously Nosferatu.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:01 No.9880242
    /rk9/ is Malkavian.
    /b/ is Tzimisce.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:02 No.9880268
    I approve of the vast majority of this list.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:03 No.9880281
    Now WoD has its own version of 4e trolls? Fuck you, heterosexuals.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:03 No.9880291
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    I love you, /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:04 No.9880307
    Tzimisce is /d/. How else can you explain the dickgirls and tentacles and such, other than as Vicissitude gone awry?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:05 No.9880316

    You must be new. This shows up every now and then.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:05 No.9880324
    /b/ is the actual malkavian madness network
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:06 No.9880328

    owod = Impotent and homosexual,
    nwod = Fucks girls into unconsciousness and heterosexual?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:06 No.9880330
    I always played as nosferatu.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:06 No.9880334
    Put 'em as Ravnos.
    Its all in your mind...
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:06 No.9880342
    this needs archival.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:07 No.9880349
    >Your Obfuscate is so high you have left a blank post
    >My Auspex is high enough to read your post
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:09 No.9880379
    >The metaplot didn't interfere with games, because it was terribly easy to ignore

    Actually, they state you're a bad person if you don't go along with the metaplot, and that it is wrong for people to want to play cappadocians, tremere antitribu, etc.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:09 No.9880383
    well shit
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:10 No.9880391

    This was blasphemy. Jo felt herself sink into the white leather seat as her guts wrenched and spat bile across her pain wracked body. This was a vile sin against art, and the hack who constructed it was going to pay with his kine life. She swore it.

    This wasn't Dukes of Hazard County at ALL.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:10 No.9880399
    Cappodocians: all of the fun of playing a walking corpse ... with none of the payoff. Good choice, bro.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:12 No.9880426

    They also had IRA werewolves in a Captain Planet version of Belfast. Best to ignore anything they said was important setting advice and just use what you liked.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:14 No.9880451
    Vera Mae stared at her kine date, appalled and stunned by his raucous behavior. After years of hard work and self-disciplined training, she could keep human food intake to a normal level without drawing the suspicious eyes of the innumerable Hunters. Her date seemed oblivious; he held in his hand the fork designed for the crab portion of the meal in his right hand, and a thick red wine in a beautiful, frosted glass snifter in the other. Glaring her disapproval, she chided him gently with her mental powers, guiding his actions until it was evidence enough of her disapproval.

    She was so enraged at his social faux pas on this night of all nights, her 200th birthday, she barely held onto her handful of mashed potatoes.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:21 No.9880562


    So be it.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:25 No.9880645
    >Actually, they state you're a bad person if you don't go along with the metaplot, and that it is wrong for people to want to play cappadocians, tremere antitribu, etc.

    Considering they had mary sue LONG LOST CAPPADOCIAN/SALUBRI BLOODLINES in the Sabbat, they can go eat a bag of dicks.

    Also, the Kiasyd, Gargoyles and Blood Brothers. A Tremere antitribu is small time compared to that level of canon retardation.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:29 No.9880708
    >Kyasid: Twilight meets Changeling: the Unifinished
    >Salubri: "My saliva is a curative potion!" wtf
    >Blood Brothers: I punch with the power of a 1000 mulletheads

    Did I cover that about right?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:37 No.9880869
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    Oh, oWoD, what you let get printed.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:40 No.9880902

    Pretty much. Never liked the Salubri - the whole "third eye + healing powers + can only drink from the willing" good guy thing seemed really out of place in the world of darkness imho. Saulot himself was actually pretty badass as half the time he's a saint and the rest of the time he's the ultimate troll and general JUST AS PLANNED douchbag.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:41 No.9880915
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:41 No.9880921
    Fomori: When Sabbat RP Isn't "Violent" Enough
    >He has talking genitalia and seems to have unusually strong tentacles, as well.
    >We took a vote. He can keep the kidnapped children. Fuck that "fight the evil" shit. He's got a talking dong.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:43 No.9880938
    Every Clan can point to a different Antediluvian and say, "Yep, that's our great-great-great-great-grandpa, and we're all mighty proud."
    The Tremere get to look at the Order of Hermes and a kidnapped Salubri and just weep in the corner.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:43 No.9880940
    magical space virus is better
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:48 No.9881022
    By the way, can fomori become vampires?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:49 No.9881033
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)18:50 No.9881047
    Yes. Likewise, Vampires can become Fomori. However, because Vampires are already of the Wyrm, in most cases, when a Bane possesses the Vampire, the result is not the Bane controlling the Vampire...so much as the Vampire controlling the Bane.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:51 No.9881062
    I don't know about nWoD, but that's pretty much what started the oWoD thing.

    PS: Anne Rice writes for Christ, now.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:51 No.9881067
    Yes. I didn't know for sure, but have relative 'proof'.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:52 No.9881084
    They retconned Magic Space Virus out after it was pointed out how ape-fucking retarded most of the shit in Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand was. There's a little text box in Transylvania By Night which goes along the lines of "Old Clan Tzimisce are a bunch of backwards fuckwits raving about space aliens and how the rest of the clan is infected by their virus. No wonder only the black hand will put up with their shit".

    /r/ing the Giovanni "give a corpse seven vaginas so you and your coterie can gangrape it for extra spell points" ritual. I think it was called "Rape of Persephone" in Italian. White Wolf was fucking crazy back in the day
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:54 No.9881118
    But guys, we all know that Mage is the best WoD game period.

    Also, what happens if a Mage gets vampired or wereyiffed?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:54 No.9881119
    So, if I understand it right, Scared of Shadows not only "survived" the Embrace and became an Abomination, but has also undergone the process to become a fomor, making him a double blight on nature?
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)18:55 No.9881131
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    Crap, I no longer have it. :\

    I do however have a picture on how to apply water-transfer tattoos from Rage Across the Amazon. Remember not to eat the Tattoos now...
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:55 No.9881143
    Mages lose their powers upon Embrace, but might gain Thaumaturgy with an appropriate path. No one gets "wereyiffed". Werewolves are born that way.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:56 No.9881146
    /r/ing the Giovanni "give a corpse seven vaginas so you and your coterie can gangrape it for extra spell points" ritual. I think it was called "Rape of Persephone" in Italian. White Wolf was fucking crazy back in the day

    Holy shit, is that for real? Wow.
    At least it's not as crazy as Baali Clanbook, that shit is nasty.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:56 No.9881150

    IIRC, the writer for DSOB was told that he was never getting another contract from White Wolf ever again. I believe they fucked him a bit. And they did it before he handed in the book. So he wrote the most insane, continuity-raping, retarded shit he could think of into Dirty Secrets... and they printed it anyway, then spent years fixing it all.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:56 No.9881158
    If Embraced, =/= Mage anymore.
    If Wereified, was not a candidate for Magehood.
    They would be disallowed to put on their wizard robe and hat.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:56 No.9881159
    >Also, what happens if a Mage gets vampired

    IIRC they loose their spells, but have a bit of a headstart in grasping the fundamentals of thaumaturgy.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:57 No.9881167
    That's dumb.
    I don't like that.

    Make it cooler.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:57 No.9881168
    Wait, what? "officially" SoS is just a werewolf fomor.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:58 No.9881189

    Mages won't go were. The Awakening is incompatible with the Garou thing. In Mage terms, Garou all share a common avatar, kinda. oWoD werewolves are born that way - they just don't show it until puberty or so.

    Vampires... Again, not compatible. Becoming a vamp replaces your living avatar with a shard of Caine's black essence. You can learn to do static magic like the Tremere, through blood sorcery/Thaumaturgy, but you'll never do Sphere magic again.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:58 No.9881194
    >gun-wielding phalli

    White Wolf, you so crazy.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:59 No.9881206

    He's not even IN this thread and you're talking about him?

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:59 No.9881209
    OP is kind of correct.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:59 No.9881220

    When embraced Mages have the flesh ripped from their skull and their head set ablaze. Also they get a motorcycle.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:00 No.9881230
    >Baali clanbook: oh god worms from the devil make it stop make it stop make it stop anal trauma devil worship worms in my head get them out get them out
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:00 No.9881236
    Some say he's a special infiltration fomor with a deep-set delusion about being a werewolf...
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:01 No.9881260
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:01 No.9881261
    ITT: oWoD drift.
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)19:02 No.9881270
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    While it didn't have Edward or Bella, old World of Darkness did have it's sues. Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:02 No.9881275
    From Black Dog Games:
    Skullfire: the Revving.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:02 No.9881283
    Probably the worst Mary Sue of the owod was Ventrue
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:02 No.9881284
    >Holy shit, is that for real? Wow.

    Yup. Giovanni are degenerate fucks, apparently.

    >IIRC, the writer for DSOB was told that he was never getting another contract from White Wolf ever again. I believe they fucked him a bit. And they did it before he handed in the book. So he wrote the most insane, continuity-raping, retarded shit he could think of into Dirty Secrets... and they printed it anyway, then spent years fixing it all.

    If that's true then the guy is my hero and the king of all trolls.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:03 No.9881293

    > make it cooler


    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:04 No.9881312
    I think we need to make this game.
    And send it to white wolf.

    Every roleplayer ever will thank us.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:04 No.9881324
    All players must start with a mysterious past, a trenchcoat and a katana.
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)19:04 No.9881325
    Every character is Doomrider.

    I fully support it.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:05 No.9881330
    he eventually got turned into some demon-lord's ashtray or something, as I recall.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:05 No.9881336
    oWoD you were so batshit nineties. Almost makes me wish they kept you.


    Anyone have the thing were the BSD were trying to crash the space station Mir into the Amazon or something like that?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:06 No.9881352
    Samuel Haight... the standard-issue Fomori/Mage/Lupine/Tremere student who rides Harleys. New icon for Skullfire: the Revving? I think so.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:06 No.9881363
    >> LogicNinja !AZlS3./ex. 05/17/10(Mon)19:06 No.9881367
    My first tabletop game was a great oWerewolf one.

    We ran into Samuel Haight at one point. Had no idea who he was at the time.
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)19:07 No.9881372
    Nah. They were using it as a gateway to Malfeas. It was in Rage Across Russia. Also, Baba Yaga was a Nosferatu Methuselah, and used Thaumaturgy to power her chicken-hut mecha, and had an army of ghouled Celestial Choir Mages to maintain a supernatural forcefield to prevent non-Black Spiral Werewolves from entering Glorious Mother Russia.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:08 No.9881387
    >He's not even IN this thread and you're talking about him?

    /tg/ can't help giving trolls the attention they crave.

    >Probably the worst Mary Sue of the owod was Ventrue

    You mean the antediluvian? Most of the "Ventrue was so great" shit in the fluff is pretty much confirmed to be him being an insufferable prick with grossly unwarranted self-importance. History is written by the victors, and his clan tend to be the ones running thing.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:08 No.9881388
    Wow, I just nostalgia'd on like .. six levels.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:08 No.9881390
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:08 No.9881399
    I... don't know how to react to that.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:09 No.9881412
    Ward vs. Fail just stopped working, didn't it? I hate when it happens.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:09 No.9881413

    Oh, fuck, Sam Haight. Worst idea ever.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:10 No.9881429
    If even half of it is true, it is awesome.

    I only have two real gripes with WW: The immense railroading of Trans Chronicles/Giovanni Chronicles, and the immense hardon for the Giovanni.
    The final Giovanni book was focused on the Givanni neonates, which I think was awesome for letting players experiance existance in the clan. Hwoever, linking it to the events of the past books was a mistake because huge liberties were taken with the past characters. Anyone who has read the books knows about a certain tablet that has become central to the fight between the old PCs and the Giovanni. Anything that valuable would be chained to the PCs 24/7 so the Giovanni wouldn't get it, but in the final book, it was sent out in a truck with just a few ghoul guards just so it would fall into the Giovanni's hands. A massive WTF?! momment.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:10 No.9881435
    Samuel Haight, former Kinfolk, former ghoul, former Skin Dancer, former Mage, currently an ashtray somewhere in Stygia.

    Samuel Haight was an early WoD character, Kinfolk to the Children of Gaia who was haunted by his failure to Change. Setting out on his own, Haight learned about the power of Kindred blood and became an independent ghoul. After some time, he advanced from piddling ghoul to piddling sorcerer, mastering enough Hedge Magic to create a ritual that, with the aid of five Garou skins, would turn him into a werewolf.

    After becoming a powerfully Wyrm-tainted kinfolk-werewolf-independent-ghoul-hybrid, Haight acquired a magical artifact that provided him with an Arete rating.

    Haight became, for all intents and purposes, a Mage. He attacked the Crombeys (branch of the Verbena) and stole a magic pumpkin branch, and then proceeded to Mexico City to take on the Baali Antediluvian.

    Although, it wasn't an Antedeluvian, but only a Methuselah, Haight did not survive the encounter.

    Haight found himself in the Shadowlands, and according to the Book of Legions, was soulforged into an ornamental ashtray on a minor Hierarchy functionary's desk, never to be seen again.

    At least until Mage: Judgment Day, by Bruce Baugh. In one small scene in the book, one of the characters is buffeted by detritus from the Underworld. One of the items is — you guessed it — an ashtray.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:10 No.9881441
    Ah shit it's all coming back now, good times.

    Also, anyone else like the Lasombra clan? everyone i know was all about the Tzimisce, but the Sabbat had other cool clans too.
    >> LogicNinja !AZlS3./ex. 05/17/10(Mon)19:10 No.9881445
    We did kill him, or at least discorporate him, or something.
    Turns out that when you roll over 30 dice you can kill anything.

    Chopped the head off what in retrospect I'm pretty sure was a Wyrm-corrupted Mokolé, too. Ahh, dice-doubling Gifts.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:11 No.9881468
    >You mean the antediluvian? Most of the "Ventrue was so great" shit in the fluff is pretty much confirmed to be him being an insufferable prick with grossly unwarranted self-importance. History is written by the victors, and his clan tend to be the ones running thing.

    What happened to him in the end, if it was ever revealed?
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)19:12 No.9881474
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    And why not remember Lucita de Aragon, the lesbian Spanish Princess ninja assassin Lasombra antitribu?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:12 No.9881476
    Plus, the treatment of the old PCs, while it was suggested that the players take control of the 'Conspiracy of Issac' for RP, it is assumed that most or all of them die or take a certain stance regarding Cappidocious. This assumes a lot, since the players may very well of had the PCs agreeing with Cappidocious's plans.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:12 No.9881479
    it's in secrets of thamuturgy i think, the whole thing was magic ritual taboo breaking.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:13 No.9881504
    ITT: oWoD v. nWoD, Hunter, Mary Sue fu, Haighters gonna Haight, Baali and Trenchcoat: the Katana'ing.

    I love /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:15 No.9881532
    >Haighters gonna Haight

    You win for that.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:15 No.9881535
    pretty much, yeah. I just went "... wow".
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:15 No.9881537
    I thought Baba Yaga wasn't that bad an idea. At least she had connections to Russia and there was potential for RP with 'Little Grandmother' Unfortunatly, she was one-shotted by some never seen before Nicktu
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:17 No.9881574

    Oh, it's true. If you look at the ideas introduced in Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand, it's even easy to believe.

    -Vampires working with mages? Check.
    -Totally Secret Hidden Sect inside the Secret Sect inside the Sabbat? Check.
    -Proprietary bloodlines/clans never seen anywhere else? Check.
    -Not one, not two, not three, but FOUR previously unheard of Antediluvians? Check.
    -Supersecret headquarters in the Shadowlands, which is supposed to be Enoch? Check.
    -Absofuckinglutely EVERYTHING retconned in short order, complete with NUCLEAR FUCKING EXPLOSIONS IN THE SHADOWLANDS to wipe out the "True Black Hand" canonically? MOTHERFUCKING CHECK.

    Seriously. The writer of DSotBH was a god-tier troll.
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)19:17 No.9881578
    The simplest analogy I've found is that while nWoD is Val Kilmer or Christian Bale or otherwise 'serious business', oWoD is very much Adam West. If you go along with the derp and treat it as camp, it becomes a lot more entertaining
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:19 No.9881598
    The real problem is, I can't find a single picture of the bastard to use with that.
    >> Dr. Theodore Lagore 05/17/10(Mon)19:21 No.9881633
    Well I for one fear change, and since I know nothing about this new setting, I'm just going to pretend it doesn't exist.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:21 No.9881639
    Anyone remember when AOL chats were predominantly WW games, instead of being overrun by freeform roleplayers?

    Good times.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:22 No.9881652
    >oWoD: boo! Spooky stuff abounds! Welcome to the world of insufficient light!
    >nWoD: here's your new, clean pants.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:22 No.9881656
    I liked the Gehenna
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:23 No.9881676
    Holy shit.
    I guess DSotBH was when WW actually started checking their book's content prior to printing.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:24 No.9881690
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    Oh come on, whats' there not to look?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:26 No.9881727
    /r/ing a picture of Samuel Haight, damn it.
    I have a mission to complete...
    >> Dr. Theodore Lagore 05/17/10(Mon)19:27 No.9881749
    Oh... I'm significantly underwhelmed...
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:28 No.9881754
    That was the only good thing to ever happen to Sam Haight. He was the most stupidly broken pet NPC this side of Elminster.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:28 No.9881762
    >Haighters gonna Haight

    You would be a god among men, if only you had made a macro of this to go with your post.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:29 No.9881778
    Sam remained an ashtray until a group of specteres were attracted by his high agony and forged a soulforged body for him and loaded the tray into a slot whereupon Sam set out to crush his foes under his feet. Sam Haight: Mecha
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:30 No.9881802
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:31 No.9881810
    I'm not finding nothing broseph, just get a pic of an ashtray.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:33 No.9881849
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    He's a picture.

    And for your trouble, I'll even throw in this character sheet!

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:33 No.9881851
    That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:33 No.9881857
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:34 No.9881872
    And he didn't even mention the 'Tzimisce Fleshcrafting is actually evil aliens that take over your body and have a bullshit physiology' thing, that the Black Hand was fighting tooth and nail against and pretty much everyone was infected with (if you were a Tzimisce you had it, if you'd be drinken from by a tzimisce you had it, if you'd drunk from a tzimisce you had it.)
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:35 No.9881882
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:37 No.9881917
    Ironically the only good, non-Christfag end in the Gehenna book was an OH NOES THE AT FIELD thing with Tzimisce.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:38 No.9881949
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    Thank you, anon. Much appreciated.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:39 No.9881956
    Was it the alien form of viccisitude, or just Tzimisce himself?

    Because either way it seems pretty common that Tzimisce was somehow tied through his childer, just the 'lol, actually deep umbra infection' bit was kinda... wtf to me.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:39 No.9881961
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:40 No.9881975
    I know a certain tripfriend who is going to flip his shit when he sees this.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:40 No.9881987
    >Deep Umbra
    Void Engineers stare at results of DNA scan from "alien spoo".
    >Entire Construct exits airlock, sans suits
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:41 No.9882001
    Tzimisce himself, but it was functionally identical to space alien vicissitude, to the point of either Tremere or Saulot (I forget which) morphing into a vohzd mid conversation.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:41 No.9882006

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:44 No.9882054
    dude, get a better font and reduce imagesize. That's hard to read.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:44 No.9882058
    You're welcome.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:45 No.9882061

    I left that out because mentioning it had kicked off the discussion, but, yeah. "Anyone who was ever in Vaulderie with a standard Tzimisce is infected by umbral parasite aliens" was pretty epic trollin'.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:47 No.9882106
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:49 No.9882144
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:49 No.9882157
    My group banned that book because of that bit.
    >Why do we all have space diseases again?
    >Because you shared an infected Vaulderie chalice with Vlad.
    >I told you we should use bleach on the chalice between Vaulderies, but nooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:50 No.9882174
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:50 No.9882177

    Also, stroke is your friend. White text, black stroke, Impact for font = decent macro, almost universally.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:51 No.9882207

    The sad part is that so many groups DIDN'T ban the book, but rather went "ZOMG NEW COOL POWERS WOOF WOOF!"
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)19:51 No.9882211
    That said, I am considering running an oWoD game sometime in the future. I used to run a Werewolf game set in Alaska for laughs. I'm in EST timezone, and at loss whether to run a comedy oWoD game, or Wraith.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:53 No.9882235
    >Comedy or Wraith
    There's a difference?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:54 No.9882257
    nWoD > oldWod > All other WoD games > New Vampire > Old Vampire
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:55 No.9882287
    nWoD>oWoDMage>oWoDVampire>other games.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:56 No.9882302
    >nWoD > oldWod > All other WoD games > New Vampire > Old Vampire
    >nWoD > New Vampire
    >oldWoD > Old Vampire

    Are you... functionally retarded? What are these "All other WoD Games" that are worse than both the new and old WoD?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:57 No.9882322
    nWoD <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< F.A.T.A.L. < all other games
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:57 No.9882331

    Son, I hope you're trolling.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:58 No.9882348
    Changeling: the OHGODMAKEITSTOP
    Hunter: the Inadequately Explained
    Mummy: the WTFing
    Gypsy: the "Can We Play Mummy? My Brain Hurts"
    Kinfolk: the Almost Interesting

    Need I go on?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:59 No.9882373

    Nosferatu is /r9k/. They don't leave their dwellings much
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:59 No.9882383
    I loved oMage... love nWoD more. Sure, I'm a total sell-out with the moral compass of a lab rat on Ecstasy... but I have my old-school Mage-y fun with the new Changeling.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:00 No.9882385
    >Need I go on?

    No, you need to go back and explain how those games aren't covered by "nWoD" or "oldWoD", actually.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:00 No.9882401

    ... I am intrigued. One oMage fan to another, can you tell me how the new Changeling scratches that itch?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:01 No.9882410
    I missed the Tzimisce in nWoD.... feels bad man
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:01 No.9882414
    I was posting about oWoD failpiles, not the innate connection to nWoD. That's >>9882257
    I'm: >>9882287
    and >>9882383
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:06 No.9882520
    In oWoD Mage, you had your hardcore camps; Traditions, Nephandi, Discocracy.. now, its down to smaller and smaller fractional camps: Summer, Winter, Spring, Fall, late August-Around-Noon-or-So, whatever. I enjoy factional warfare, both overt and subtle. With the addition of the Fair Ones as the Uber Villains, one need not ever draw up a motivation; "Just Because" is now a legitimate reason and argument. No more need for the enforced camraderie of the old groups; now, its just one Freehold, barely holding on, linked up with another Freehold, also barely holding on.

    No artistes. No fruity little song-and-dance routines. Just survivors and the former kapos, looking out over their shoulders, forever trapped in the Hedge, literally and figuratively.

    Good times.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:13 No.9882668
    > If nWoD predates Twilight and oWoD is much older than nWoD then how the fuck are the Toreador a parody of Twilight.
    or... is it other way around... NOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOooo...
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:15 No.9882714
    my friend made me watch that twilight movie, (it had werewolves i think it was the second one?). And this was the vibe i was getting, it was like WoD but with bright colors and and teen drama.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:16 No.9882760
    I don't think you have a friend.
    No one would do that to someone and call them a "friend".
    You were kidnapped or something.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:17 No.9882774
    >I'm not the guy whose comment you were commenting on.


    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:19 No.9882815

    So... as a fan of oMage... what you like about new Changeling.... is all the ways it's different from oMage?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:22 No.9882865
    There's a simple reason why I hate nWoD.
    No Sons of Ether.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:22 No.9882870
    No, because of its similarities.
    I'll explain:
    in oMage, you had Etherites; in the SoE, you could find a half-dozen camps, each with their own agenda.
    In the Order of Herpes, you could find a full dozen 'houses', with their own agenda.
    With the Euthanatos, even more.
    Throw in the Destiny/Avatar/Mentor thing, and you've got up to a six-way gangbang going on in every Mages' head, and not everyone even wants to finish up.

    I like it because it is as close to the oMage as I have seen.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:23 No.9882884
    We were promised jetpacks.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:24 No.9882906
    you know the more i think about it, i was lured into it by this vile thing called "Tits" and it's evil power.

    Also the more i think about it the more parallels i find.

    there's werwolves that live in the woods and with the indians, the can smell and HAET vampires (wyrm-taint). Vampires society is all about being dicks to each other and keeping shit on the DL (Camarilla). oh and the main queerbait vampire wants to commit suicide via masquerade violation.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:27 No.9882953
    Twilight: the Copyright Infringing
    >> MagicJuggler !sMYbIFo6TI 05/17/10(Mon)20:28 No.9882979
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    What about Project Twilight?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:29 No.9882998
    You shut your whore mouth about that.
    That. Never. Happened.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:30 No.9883015
    First and foremost

    >Order of Herpes

    I will treasure that forever.

    Beyond that, OK, now I see where you're going. The phrasing of it just threw me for a loop in your first reply.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:32 No.9883041
    The Sons of Ether sucked. They didn't fit at all, with their goofy steampunk thing jammed awkwardly into an organization of mystics.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:34 No.9883078
    One of my players in a Discocracy game (playing as a mostly-min/max'd HITMark II) was listening in on a Traditions Chantry, and turned to the other members of the Construct (who were hiding their recon post in a newspaper delivery truck) and said, "This unit is unfamiliar with the operations' lexicon. 'Order of Herpes': explain and explore."
    He did it in the best monotone, flat-out deadpan voice. Hilarious then, and now.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:34 No.9883087
    called that one.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:34 No.9883093
    >Virtual Adepts
    Cool story, bro.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:37 No.9883147

    Virtual Adepts were here, being the only relevant faction of the 9 Traditions.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:40 No.9883205
    Yeah, they didn't fit with the Traditions, either, but at least they were using current technology and not pretending to be living in a pulp novel.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:40 No.9883206
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    Your's in the world of the electron and the switch.
    Ours is the second law of thermo-therfucking-dynamics.
    Euthanatos, represent!
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:40 No.9883207
    YOU suck, simply by jamming your HURRR STEAMPUNK e-peen into everything.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:41 No.9883213

    The SoEs and the Vdepts were the best part of the Traditions. Not "best Traditions", but they illustrated exactly what was awesome, and what was wrong, about the faction. It was a big tent where everyone who opposed the Technocracy's banal plunge could get together... but it also offered absolutely no unified alternative to replace the scientific paradigm of the Technocracy. It was a bunch of selfish children trying to fight against the system with no idea how to build a system of their own, and the defectors made that point hit home better.

    Also, it kept it from being pure "medieval magic against modern science".
    >> scaredofshadows !!zxfRuuFd4v1 05/17/10(Mon)20:41 No.9883223
    Why is that old story so interesting to you? It's a good way to make the metis cubs sit still and listen, but it's not exactly something to laugh over.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:42 No.9883247
    Does the Order of Reason gotta smack a bitch?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:42 No.9883249
    >broken png thumbnail

    That about sums up how the other Traditions handle the modern world.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:43 No.9883251
    We were WAITING for you, Shits-his-fursuit!
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:44 No.9883273

    Did you reply to the wrong comment?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:45 No.9883289
    The Order of Reason does not admit to mistakes, only to a flawed reality.

    Also, you did order these cheese fries and not the onion rings. We have the receipt to prove it.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:45 No.9883290
    Oh, it's Dwells-in-basements, the motherless, wyrm-tainted metis abomination!
    >> scaredofshadows !!zxfRuuFd4v1 05/17/10(Mon)20:45 No.9883293
    All that monkey-brainpower and that's the best you can come up with?

    I'm not here to get into a shouting match. If nobody wants some owod uploaded, I don't really feel like talking.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:46 No.9883309

    That's... great. What does any of that have to do with the post to which you were replying?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:47 No.9883335
    Freak Legion.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:48 No.9883341
    We don't need your shitstained links, Shits-up-imageboards. It's all there.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:48 No.9883354
    Nothing, it seems. The Order of Reason had three rum and Sprites and lost track of the thread, is all.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:48 No.9883355
    >> scaredofshadows !!zxfRuuFd4v1 05/17/10(Mon)20:49 No.9883358
    freak legion players guide to fomori - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QH4H24C6
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:49 No.9883359
    I wasn't /r/ing it, I was calling you it.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:50 No.9883382
    We can provide non-shitstained links, and faster than you can shit them out.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:50 No.9883387
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    Don't mind me. Just lookin' for those last dozen Ravnos so I can finish a botched job.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:51 No.9883410
    Check the local carnivals.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:51 No.9883415
    Start with the fomori abomination shitting up this thread.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:52 No.9883423

    I dunno... megaupload is better than rapidshare.

    But it's Shits His Fursuit - so I don't want either.

    Fortunately, I don't think I need any oWoD books.

    Except perhaps Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand, which should be posted so people can see for themselves what happens when a fired employee trolls his game company bosses.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:53 No.9883456
    Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand was probably the best thing about VtM.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:54 No.9883488
    Players' Guide to the Sabbat, IMO.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:55 No.9883505
    PW field says "vampire: the dark ages corebook"
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:56 No.9883522

    You got me there. Original with chainsaw zombies, or revised with creepily detailed face rape?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:56 No.9883527
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:56 No.9883533
    Date rape face.
    >> scaredofshadows !!zxfRuuFd4v1 05/17/10(Mon)20:56 No.9883537
    Most of the insults don't hurt, I've been called worse by better. The accusations of corruption though, you'd better have a headstart at running away if you call any Fenrir wyrm-tainted.

    owod vampire dirty secrets of the black hand - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MH7V7XC7
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:57 No.9883552
    Already provided without shitstains. Now GTFO, and don't return.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:57 No.9883555
    I've seen things removed from cats in surgery which merit the title Fenrir more than you.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:57 No.9883558
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    You want to know why oWoD was better than nWoD?
    The art.
    The original World of Darkness set a new standard for RPG art. The new World of Darkness is full of lazy CG stuff that looks half-finished.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:58 No.9883578
    You are, as far as anyone knows, a Glasswalker ragabash metis, Embraced by a Malkavian and fitted with a bane by Pentex.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:58 No.9883583

    oHunter proves you wrong. Seriously I have never seen such atrociously misplaced art.

    Also nChangeling art is at least 80% awesome stuff.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:59 No.9883603
    The Glasswalker ragabash metis, Embraced by a Malkavian and fitted with a bane by Pentex community frowns upon your shenanigans.

    We deserve better than to be lumped in with Shits His Fursuit.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:01 No.9883629
    Owod art was good, if you like Guro With Fat Chicks and giant fomori testicles barely contained by briefs.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:01 No.9883635
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    Post some. The vast majority of nWoD art I've seen is stiff, flat, and/or goofy looking.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:01 No.9883641
    Sorry for that. Abominations are rare stuff, you know.
    >> scaredofshadows !!zxfRuuFd4v1 05/17/10(Mon)21:02 No.9883650
    shitting ass damnation, that's a fucking laugh coming from an ape

    you miss dinnertime at the dumpster today?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:02 No.9883655
    Ha ha, you a funny guy. Srsly, did you ever pick a copy of the oChangeling stuff? Easy to hate the system and love the art.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:02 No.9883656

    oHunter was, with oDemon, the point at which WW was gearing up to shit on everything they'd ever done, and also crash-reboot the WoD.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:03 No.9883669
    Yes. You weren't home.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:03 No.9883691
    I did like the idea of Mummy, real old people who wern't utter ass-kickers and had to struggle against losing their memories. Not only that, while vamps did have the 'I have to watch people around me die,' Mummies had "I went to sleep and four generations of family died! I never got to say goodbye or watch them grow up!'
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:04 No.9883698
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    Coming up
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:04 No.9883699
    Let's just ignore the tiny-dicked furtroll. When it's urged to provide, provide faster.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:04 No.9883707
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:05 No.9883719
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    I'm sorry, do you see any fishes here?
    Because I sure don't.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:05 No.9883737
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    Art up in this bitch.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:06 No.9883741
    Their power level was twacked, though. Too top-heavy for beginning level PCs, compared to even mid-to-high level PCs of other games. One Mummy = 12 Groo armed with Magik +14 Katanas.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:06 No.9883742
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:06 No.9883750
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:07 No.9883757
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    I agree with you about oHunter's art. Now, why couldn't VtR and new Mage's corebook have art like this? >>9883698
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:09 No.9883792
    Uh, no. That's just your new = bad bias speaking.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:09 No.9883795
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:09 No.9883806
    Anyone got Megauploads on the nWoD stuff? I've got an awesome game idea I need to flesh out.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:10 No.9883816

    Because they were the beginning of nWoD. The end of oWoD had shittastic art too. Coincidence? I think not.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:10 No.9883817
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:11 No.9883832
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:11 No.9883834
    Point taken. I was still xenophobic about new additions to my oWoD games when I first ran across Mummy. I shall give it a fair review, check it again with more experienced eyes. If anything, I've learned from nWoD Changeling, its never to judge a title by its apparent demographic.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:11 No.9883844
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:12 No.9883866
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    Mekhet up in this bitch.
    Not doing much, chillin, illin. Being completely fucked up.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:13 No.9883876
    Just a question: How does nWoD justify an absolute morality?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:13 No.9883878
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    I remember what this looks like in-person: it looks like a cleaned-up digital sketch, not a finished artwork for publication.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:13 No.9883893
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:15 No.9883933
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:17 No.9883952
    What do you mean?
    What do you mean?
    Do you mean how it only has a single axis?
    They admit that it's not a great representation of morality, but that it's a simplified one for gameplay.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:18 No.9883991
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:20 No.9884011
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    It doesn't. Morality is a misnomer. It's more of an Empathy scale and fitted towards the average civilian perspective.

    Dogs of War goes into this pretty heavily since by the normal morality heirarchy of sins most soldiers would swiftly degenerate to roughly 3 Morality and likely be riddled with psychoses. Which is why Dogs of War introduces triggers and trauma ands all that so you have something more realistic (IE, soldiers don't turn into gibbering monsters).

    I've heard tell Mirrors has an entire chapter for alternate morality systems.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:20 No.9884014
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:22 No.9884056
    Dogs of War: nWoD supplement for Vairvulf or for combat-type PCs?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:23 No.9884086

    Generic (and cross-splat) information about the military.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:23 No.9884093
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    Apparently WoD gets it's art off the forums now.
    The editors, too.

    That explains EVERYTHING.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:24 No.9884107
    Thank you. Grabbing a copy for my upcoming game. Does it have any details on era-specific concepts, or should I rtfm it?
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:25 No.9884123
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    Also, because I don't want to post the dramatic shadows without the rest, another reason why the nWoD is so damned great.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:26 No.9884138
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    >Dogs of War: nWoD supplement for Vairvulf

    I'm going to assume that's a cute way of saying 'Werewolf'

    >>or for combat-type PCs?

    This. It's primarily for soldiers and military chronicles which can (and usually does) mean mortals.

    However, it CAN also be for werewolves (or anything else) as whilst I've not finished reading the book I've heard others who have done so mention a Zero Company.

    And Zero Company is full of monsters that show up in the military (such as a private undergoing his First Change when his squad gets slaughtered by insurgents or whatever)
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:29 No.9884195
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:29 No.9884213
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:31 No.9884229
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:31 No.9884244
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    I love that image.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:33 No.9884269
    Damn you. Now I'll be stuck decrypting that all night. Damn you to the Special Hell.
    >> scaredofshadows !!zxfRuuFd4v1 05/17/10(Mon)21:36 No.9884330
    how hard would first time be for uratha with no one around act as guide and mentor? adrift and alone in strange place isn't my idea of fun
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:36 No.9884343
    But, that's reserved for murderers and people who talk in the movie theater!
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:37 No.9884354
    And people who take advantage of young redheaded women.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:38 No.9884365
    No one not wearing a diaper cares about your idea of 'fun'.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:38 No.9884366
    Just to get that straight: You stop trollplaying. Now.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:39 No.9884387
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:40 No.9884402
    So, for players of oMage that might linger in this thread... how is nMage in comparison? What changes do you hate? What, if any, do you like?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:41 No.9884423
    Damn it.. anyone other than Shits His Fursuit got a Megaupload or equivalent link to Dogs of War? Rapidshare is being evil and ordinary again.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:41 No.9884436
    Needs moar Discocracy.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:42 No.9884448
    oMage player here. I don't like how Paradox is handled now, but I like nMage way better and play with it. Granted, we change things around every time, but it's still fun.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:42 No.9884452
    Never mind. Rapidshare is sharing again. DoW is DLing as I type.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:42 No.9884454

    I'm new here... what the fuck is Discocracy?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:44 No.9884486

    Is it worth learning a new system, assuming I could find friends who were willing to play either version?

    I haven't checked out the books, because I try not to pirate and I promised myself not to give WW any more money after the end of the oWoD clusterfuck.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:44 No.9884489
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    Discocracy: because I never liked Techno.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:44 No.9884500
    When will you people realize that everything is on 4shared?

    >> scaredofshadows !!zxfRuuFd4v1 05/17/10(Mon)21:45 No.9884506
    this stuff needs to stop. trying to be a better poster, holding my tongue a lot more than before

    nwod dogs of war - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1UDGZQYO
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:46 No.9884528
    Thank you. You are an gentleman and an scholar.

    Fuck you. You are an idiot and an troll.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:46 No.9884538
    It is.

    It's incredibly easy to learn, and the setting is a smorgasboard of personal horror. Far removed from the oWoD clusterfuck.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:48 No.9884563
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    I think I'm going to post a few of my other favorites from nWoD.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:49 No.9884580
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    Pretty hard. Many young Uratha who don't get picked up by either side (or a random pack of Ghost wolves) don't survive.

    Of course, you get the few who make it as a lone wolf. Or who get picked up by *others*, such as Zero Company - or by the local mage Cabal or werewolf coterie.

    You know, anyone who might have the muscle to forcibly recruit the young and confused - or have the knowledge to offer them answers in return for their strength.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:50 No.9884586
    Try not to post. At all.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:51 No.9884596
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:51 No.9884602
    Way easy. Forget target numbers. There's four degrees of success. Shit sucks, you fail, you win, you win forever.

    This doesn't take things like fighting and magic into consideration, though.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:52 No.9884620
    Try this if you've got a dynamic IP.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:52 No.9884626
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:53 No.9884632
    the system is really easy to learn, so thats out of the question. I would advise seeing what your local group plays, as mine had a shitfit when half the group moved to nwod.

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:53 No.9884639
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    >werewolf coterie

    Er, vampire coterie, I mean.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:53 No.9884644
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:55 No.9884666
    although new brujah is combat monsters and makes slightly more sense, i will miss oBrujah
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:56 No.9884697
    You're now aware that all links provided by Dwells-in-basements are shitstained and will make you a furry of the worst category.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:56 No.9884698
    I'm loving these filenames.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:57 No.9884704
    I'm new, not retarded.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)21:58 No.9884741
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:00 No.9884777
    You are, in fact, retarded for not hating Stained-with-Shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:02 No.9884815
    You are, in fact, retarded on several levels.
    First: u mad?
    Second: I eschewed his links in exchange for those which would both work, as well as keep me clear of his diaper splashes.
    Third: tell me what to think again, and I'll key your car, ITG.
    We done?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:03 No.9884827
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    I don't think he was not hating SoS...
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:04 No.9884849
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    The butthurt is so delicious.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:07 No.9884901
    Why would anyone hate, SoS?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:07 No.9884912
    Can't tell you what to think, simply because you don't do so. Ever.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:07 No.9884923
    >this stuff needs to stop. trying to be a better poster, holding my tongue a lot more than before

    Look, I'll give you some heartfelt advice.

    #1) Stop being a colossal faggot. I don't know how you can achieve this, but the best bet is to stop acting like you're a character from a fucking game at all.

    #2) Drop your trip. Completely. Never use that shitstained identifier again for the rest of your fucking life. Just using it is enough to remind people what a colossal faggot failure you have been up till now. If you post anonymously for a while, you might find people more receptive to things. Assuming you can rein in the faggotry enough not to be instantly identifiable.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:08 No.9884931
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    I love making them.
    >> scaredofshadows !!zxfRuuFd4v1 05/17/10(Mon)22:08 No.9884944
    leeches and sorcerer shitheads go after newly-changed uratha steal their 'essence'?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:08 No.9884950
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    At first, I thought:
    >Nah, he's gotta be trollin'.
    Then I was:
    >Nah... could also be
    Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:10 No.9884979

    Especially part one.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:11 No.9884991
    Why exactly are you defending a shitstained furtroll?
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:14 No.9885048
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:14 No.9885050
    this better, anon?

    not 'acting'. you 'acting' as who ever you are today?
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:14 No.9885067
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:14 No.9885068

    They're not defending SoS. They're pointing out that you're a fucking retard. You called out someone who brofisted a post making fun of SoS for not hating SoS.

    We can both hate SoS and acknowledge that you are, in fact, a full retard.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:15 No.9885080
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    If stupid were cheese, we could squeeze your head and make nachos. I am not now, nor have been, nor shall begin, defending any and all aspects of Shits His Fursuit.

    Grasp this: I said I was new, not retarded. You, you're retarded. Now that we've made that distinction abundantly clear, here's an adorable kitten.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:16 No.9885091
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    Goddamnit, Scared, you are acting.
    Unless you can give me pictures of werewolves, you are fucking acting.
    You're not a werewolf. There's no such thing as Black Spiral Dancers.
    More importantly, the Get of Fenris isn't even in America.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:16 No.9885105
    >implied hate-filledimageofshitshisfursuit.jpg
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:17 No.9885116
    he's hopeless, like that guy who made that rapist changeling that wore a diaper, and was a loyalist. Some people just can't get around the idea that their favorite concept is truly terrible. In this case he thinks trollplaying a werewolf is awesome, and thinks /tg/ will accept him eventually.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:18 No.9885140
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    Not actively, but when you run across a 'stray' so to speak, most will. Some out of the kindness of their hearts, others for personal gain.

    Vampires can't steal essence though, they're completely ignore of the really hidden mysteries of the world. I don't think mages would both trying to do so since werewolves are not locii and thus do not generate essence (and even if they did there's still need to use a certain rote to convert the essence to mana since mages use mana instead of essence).

    Mind you this all happens fairly rarely. Most find either the Pure or Forsaken find the werewolf *before* their Change has even hit them and mark them by biting them so they can track them and be the first on-sight when they change.

    Of course, when *both* groups find one, it's typically safer to just grab them and wait out the time until the Change actually hits them or you risk the other group doing that.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:18 No.9885143
    kuufuuji have awesome names for their disciplines, but they just are meh, I thought it was gonna be some tiger fighting shit and it definitely was not.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:19 No.9885150

    It's a step. The next is to realize that if you're really not acting, you're horribly fucked in the head and desperately in need of therapy for over-identifying with a fictional world.
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:19 No.9885160
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    Am I the only one who doesn't hate SoS purposefully and still wishes he wasn't such a retard?

    I mean, why can there not seem to be a middle ground?

    And more importantly, why am I the only one posting good art?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:20 No.9885171
    you can't know what I would give to be a real human being, not the out of control subhuman trash I am

    hell, I piss off everyone here without ever intending to. you know how bad that hurts?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:20 No.9885181
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    >Not in America

    O rly?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:21 No.9885200
    I believe some people can be fixed; it is a question of commitment, diligence and whether the finished product is a desirable one. A polished turd is still going to be a turd.

    As for the art: I couldn't draw to save my life and anyone who has seen it IRL could testify I am medically unable to draw.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:21 No.9885202
    >you can't know what I would give to be a real human being

    No, we can't. Because we are not out of our fucking minds.

    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:22 No.9885213
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    I like their fluff.

    They're more about fighting themselves than anyone else. It's Discipline about discipline.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:22 No.9885229

    I don't hate him much. I wish he weren't such a retard/troll. Mostly, I wish I could tell if he was a genuine retard with massive untreated psychological problems, or a retarded troll.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:23 No.9885235
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    I can dump some modern char portraits? any requests?
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:23 No.9885238
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    I meant art from the nWoD books.
    I... what?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:25 No.9885269
    A few insights from the new guy:
    1.) Unplug for a few days. See the IRL MMO. They've got excellent expansions ready to install if you just download the "Open The Front Door" patch.
    2.) Visit your local bar, drink a soda, listen to three songs and smile at something with a vagina. It'll do wonders for your lifestyle.
    3.) If you have an urge to say something you are certain no one would say to you in real life, make it into an internal dialogue. If you feel the urge to post a snarky reply, refrain from it and accept that lurking is the first stage of learning. Fuck, I know that much.
    4.) Lurk moar, again. Re-learn and shuffle your posting style, word choice and image file names.

    Just suggestions. Salvage your life; it has value, even if only as a cautionary tale.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:25 No.9885270
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    >Taming Tony the Tiger
    I laughed
    Get are from Europe, but came to america with the europeans.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:25 No.9885272

    I would like some snazzy mages with mythic resonance. Not "guy with an uzi and balefire" but, y'know, "modern update on classic wizard/mage looks"
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:27 No.9885304
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    I meant more the actual page itself. The entirety of it is just 'wat'.

    As for general WoD pictures...
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:27 No.9885309
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    OWoD comic. Bunch of Get Of Fenris American Soldiers vs. Nazi Get.

    It's really cheesy and hokey, like all the old comics.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:27 No.9885314
    lace thinks we're from fucking britain, and only the two 'native' tribes form septs here. then he calls me ignorant

    I don't want therapy. I need to be dragged in chains and then shot with high powered rifle

    you going ask me to part the veil and show you photos again, rapist-monster?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:28 No.9885321
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    sounds good
    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:29 No.9885344
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    Like this?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:29 No.9885348
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    technically a vamp but could make a good moros
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:30 No.9885358
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:30 No.9885379
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    >you going ask me to part the veil and show you photos again, rapist-monster?
    >lace thinks we're from fucking britain, and only the two 'native' tribes form septs here. then he calls me ignorant
    You're not from fucking anywhere. You're from White Wolf Publishing's Werewolf: The Apocalypse.
    And before that, you were from 4chan's /x/ board, pretending to be a werewolf.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:30 No.9885385
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:32 No.9885415
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:33 No.9885434
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    >> Mahou Shoujo Beautiful Sanguine Muse 05/17/10(Mon)22:33 No.9885438
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:34 No.9885448
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:35 No.9885467
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:36 No.9885484
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    flattering that you think there's a human being under a mask you'd like to pull from my face
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:38 No.9885517
    That ... is not helping your case.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:39 No.9885543
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:40 No.9885559
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:43 No.9885612
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:44 No.9885624
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    and of course dresden for modern mage.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:47 No.9885676
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:48 No.9885688
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:49 No.9885718
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    did everyone bail out of this thread?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:50 No.9885737
    Fuck yes, modern mages. Thank you all.

    Except Shits His Fursuit. If he really can't figure out why he sounds retarded, and how to correct he, really should just eat a bullet.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:50 No.9885756
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:52 No.9885783
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:54 No.9885820
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:56 No.9885857
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    and im done here, have fun y'all
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:57 No.9885877
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    I have no 'case', no defence of the trash I am. nothing new catch myself looking at people like sides of beef, but caught myself wondering if golden retriever would taste gamey or not

    rather be crushed under truck or bus than hurt any one again

    projecting your depravity onto me, anon?

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