Plot seems to be the most difficult aspect with such diverse player goals. At least I'd have trouble coming up with one.

>>9302049
Just throw a legendary at them and make it tell them to stop burning shit down. And then have it kill them all.

>3 fire types , 1 electric type
>1 poison type,1 bug type, 1 normal type, 1 normal/flying type
Rock/ground pokemon are going to rock their world.

>>9302112
They aren't going to fight Brock. They're going to go through mount moon, then head straight south until they are in Celadon.

>>9302112
They're in for a treat when they fight Brock then.

Also, our group meets this coming Wednesday. It's gonna be awesome.

>>9302112
which will destroy erika's gym

Got a /rs/ of it?

>>9302143
Why not? That's how you gain levels, isn't it? from fighting gyms and doing contests? PCs gain one level from each gym badge or contest ribbon they get.

Hope they know that they're screwing themselves out of a leveling opportunity.

>>9302143
Geodudes are a given.
Who knows what other rock type might be in that cave?
Throw in Graveler as a miniboss.
Team rockets/trainers on almost every corner.
Cant burn down a cave.

You know, there are police and forest rangers in pokeworld. There guys do not like forest fires.

>>9302156
>>9302156
how does your group handle plot?

or is your group just starting too?

>>9302176
http://www.mediafire.com/?ybkznzynkzw

Awesome, PTA thread.

Did anybody remember to copy down that Kamen Rider trainer build that guy did a little while back?

>>9302203
you also get levels just from using the pokedex a ton, according to what stark's given out so far.
and they're all around 20 pokedex uses, stark says to give a level every 25 new pokedex entries.

>>9302250
It's in the archives.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=pokemon

That should make it show up near the bottom.

Hey OP, did you get these?

stark posted them in the morning a few days ago.

>>9302228
I'm a late-comer, so I came in while the plot was already going, but my DM likes to just have shit start happening after, like, big Gym battles and stuff, then have the players figure out what's going on.

He's also pretty good at thinking on his toes. We've screwed over a couple plot points with lucky rolls but he's managed to keep the plot on rails without feeling railroady.

Are the rules still really sketchy? The last time I looked the PDFs were all mish mashed and clunky.

>>9302355
What's happening in your group?
What class did you take up?
Or did you GM make you start low level?

>>9302332
>>9302354
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE?

THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL.

>>9302049
moderate success with the game so far, can't what till beta.

>>9302332
>>9302354
HELLSYEAH

>>9302369
they are kinda sketchy, but i've read through enough of the archives to figure out how certain things work and if i'm doing them wrong, i'll change it later.

for now, we haven't hit any bumps. it helps that stark gave out the newest pokedex and trainer features and some rules in the last zip he posted.

I'm planning on doing a hard boiled pokemon mystery. The PCs will be police detectives investigating team rocket, who are a LOT meaner than in the games, more like real life gangsters. The world will be closer to IRL too.

>>9302245
Is this the most recent .rar?

>>9302506
Since Red Dead Redemption is coming out, I've been on something of a western kick. I've been doing a little refluffing of the PTA classes to fit in a western setting for fun.

I kinda want to try it out.

>>9302524
no, it's just a pdf.

here's where i downloaded the most updated splatbook from
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E9TME6DZ

stark posted that last week.

Also. about that mystic file, stark: FUCK YOU

>>9302506
Me too, but rocket's one of the more minor players. Are you making your own Area or using the pre-existing ones?

>>9302396
Since the other players browse 4chan and I have intimate plot details I shouldn't give out info in danger of being a blabbermouth.
Since I came in so late the GM had me take over for a fairly powerful NPC. Researcher/Capture Specialist/Petrologist. Essentially EVOLUTION STONES EVERYWHERE plus CAPTURE FUCKING EVERYTHING. 'course, I don't really need to capture much since I started with pokemon averaging around the 50s in level.

Also, if you know a lot about Pokemon Out of game, Researcher is fun, since it essentially lets you metagame all that pokeknowledge you've built up since elementary school.

Good mix of skills he gave me, but I'm anxious for the next campaign to start so I can build my own guy.

>>9302049
stark was talking about a corporations race he's running in his campaign. i don't remember which thread though. maybe you could do something similar.

>>9302711
I saw it, but I'm not to sure how I would deal with that since I don't think my players would investigate deaths of people they've not met... unless i get them to meet them?

>>9302697
what kinda pokes you got?

black and white hype makes me want this game more.
what does stark have left to finish before he releases beta?

>>9302828
i think axiom just said it was fluffing it out, and converting it to PDF format.

>>9302783
What kind of players are they? If they're slashing and burning their way through Kanto maybe they're not really all that interested in a plot more complex than "Here's an evil team, go kick their asses."

Or maybe some legendary gets pissed at them for their wanton destruction, and the campaign involves them having to escape the wrath of Shaymin the god of nature and his bro the time-traveler Celebi.

>>9302861
good point. in other games they are the 'orcs and goblins? let's kill them' type. i guess it carries over to pokemon.

i'll just need to pick an evil team and give them a motive other then evil for the sake of evil.

>>9302625
My own area, might be just a city and the local suburbs. I lived in Japan for a while and I was thinking of setting it a place resembling Tokyo metro area and Saitama. Saitama is basically the New Jersey of Japan, parts of it are pretty and rural but there are a lot of rough industrial towns. I was kind of inspired by Jake Adelstein's memoir about being a crime reporter in that area.

>>9302800
A fucking awesome Metagross is my star player, and I also had a Mawile I was leveling up (Presumably so I would be encouraged not to rape everything in the other player's paths. I obliged.) I also caught a Beedrill for giggles that I'm thinking of trading to another player for a Dugtrio.

Also, Petrologist has a skill where you can find rare items on a route by calling a number and rolling a D20. I got me a choice Scarf.

>>9302332
>>9302354

Oh, god. I'm glad someone made one, but I'm going to redo that to look better. Doesn't match the look at all.

>>9302914
>>9302049
how does having several pokemon on the field not get unwieldy?
i am interested in this game... but it seems like a headache for me since i'd be GMing.

>>9302903
sweet i'm ripping off of this, can't decide whether i want to use Hoenn (3rd gen area) or my own area.

>>9303011
each person only uses one at a time, and it is an extension of their character so it's like a rangers pet or wizards familiar.

>>9303030
Have you read Jake Adelstein's book, Tokyo Vice? It's awesome, you learn all kinds of shit about crime and the criminal underworld in Japan, its fascinating and kind of fucked up and scary at the same time.

>>9303011
OP? I'm OP.

I guess it's not been a problem yet since my players don't really do anything yet. just their pokemon have been attacking. i'll see later once my players get features.

>>9302049
Every time I see that picture.

Her uniform is so fucking stupid. You would never, ever wear something like that traveling.

>>9303104
no but now i definitely shall, sounds great.

>>9303120
My bad, that was from another thread. So what will happen when players start using features or whatever, will they get two actions per turn essentially?

>>9303132
You wouldn't wear a baseball hat with giant chunks out of it either. It's supposed to be HAXXRD COXXRE or something.

>>9302828

Beta is three parts: Trainer's Guide, GM's Guide, and Bestiary.

All the Moves, Classes, and such have been fluffed out (the Trainer's Guide portion), and I'm compiling all the myriad word docs into one cohesive pdf file on that.

Mystic's still not planned for Beta, though. Just not tested enough yet.

Player's guide isn't too far off from done, though. I'm actually working on it right now (well, was till I got distracted by those character sheets), and I'm pretty much down to writing up rules and making it a more interesting read.

GM's guide... hasn't really been touched yet, at least on my end. That's the one with more "How to run this, here are the rules you don't want your players knowing, etc." By that last bit, I'm referring to things like capture rates - you want them knowing that certain things will benefit the capture, but knowing the specific bonuses encourages metagaming.

Bestiary is the updated Pokedex. Fluff on that seems to be somewhere in the "F-G" range, so that could take a bit. I'm thinking the majority of the actual content for that sucker's ready to go, though.

>>9303142
And oh yeah, EVERY SINGLE WORD IS TRUE. The names are changed and all but it is all 100% true. You won't believe some of it but its all true.

>>9303164
kind of; usually it's a buff to their Pokemon, or it may be an actual attack.

Trainer A uses his feature, go for the Horn on his Raichu, His raichu now has a possibility of hitting ground type pokemon with its electric attacks on it's next move.

>>9303191
alright, keep it up!
>>9303206
Yeah i've read some crazy things people do to smuggle and hide shit.

>>9303191
You know Axiom, you never cease to amaze me with all the work you do for this project.

>>9302828
Bestiary will just need to be copy/pasted into a pdf program and I'll need to index it/organize it.
I'm thinking I won't do all of the biology entries by the time of the beta release, so i'll just give out what i have done so far and do Beta 1.01 updates or something.

GM book is going to be small. It's just how to run the game... but apparently /tg/ knows how to based on how many people are already playing. The legendary bestiary will also be in here since the players will not have access to it for obvious reasons.

The regular bestiary will be able to be freely read by players, but for fun's sake i'd encourage players to only read the sections relevant to pokemon they've pokedexed.

>>9302914
By the way, hello Dots
See you on Wednesday.

where do you get the sourcebooks for this? It sounds incredibly interesting.

>>9303309
No, its not "I shoved a pound of coke up my arse" fucked up. Its "dude ran a dog breeding kennel and kept killing people that crossed him and chopping them up and feeding them to the dogs" fucked up.

>>9303342
>Dr. Mr. Stark is here
>Leaving for work.

>>9303349

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pokemon_Tabletop_Adventures

Alpha's all that's up right now. Working on Beta right now.

>>9303369
that's no good

>>9303342
care to explain the Household pokemon thing you allowed? say for expediency's sake i wanted to let my characters start with a starter and a two-stage common pokemon. how would you run/approve of that?

>>9303009
You don't like the character sheets?
I could have Dirty do some changes on them.
You've already got quite a lot on your hands and he was feeling like he could have done better anyway.

Plus he still needs to do the pokedex checklist page that players will need for leveling purposes.

What do you think they're missing?

>>9303473

They're not missing anything. I'm just a design snob, don't worry about it too much.

>>9303460
Yeah, I just want to clarify that there won't be stuff -quite- like that in my campaign, but it will be gritty, and fairly violent.

>>9303165
Well, the hat you can justify as style of a sort, or maybe sentimental value.

Besides, the rest of his clothing could serve as travel gear. None of her shit short of her bandanna could.

>>9303460
Basically, if the player has fluff as to why they already have a pokemon, I'd let them have it. So long as it's below level 10. The starter they're given is level 5 or 10. Depends on the GM. If they want a common second stage pokemon, I'd let them have it. Its actually a bad idea since they want to evolve pokemon to allow for more pokedex entries to level up more, but if it's crucial to their story let em run with it.

>>9303554
when did he get glasses?

>>9303548
Let's face it. She's dressed as such purely for being his sexy bitch companion.

>>9303554

Actually, while I have you here, did that cover image thing ever pan out? Whatzisname, Zankara was making one, right?

>>9303554
So I could have a Lv5 Chansey then?

>>9303554
my bad i meant two step pokemon (meowth, tentacool, etc.) Thanks again.

Also you never answered about whether weapon proficiencies stacked or not.

>>9303506
Alright then.

Are any stats for weapons and armor going to be included?
I'm hoping to run my group through a fantasy setting campaign.

>>9303592
Still a stupid uniform.

Really, thinking about the cuts and rashes she'd get in that thing makes me cringe. She wouldn't be sexy long, that's for sure.

>>9303617
>two step pokemon
Again, if they want it and you don't let it be too high of a level, I'd let them have it.

>weapon proficiencies stacked or not
They do not. If a player is dealing a large amount of damage, they are a Psychic or a Martial Artist. The weapon proficiencies are purely meant for other trainers to be able to handle themselves against lowly rattata or bidoof.

>>9303611
Happiny would be more reasonable... but it's really up to your GM.

>>9303597
She said she'll have the sketches in a month or so.
I'm not too sure myself. I've been looking for a good pic that I'd want for the covers since I'm not to sure if she'll be ready.

I am seriously considering attempting to bring this to my group and DM it. However I have a little question regarding trainer's leveling up, specifically pokedex related (capture/seen).

I was never necessarily the type to go out and "catch em all".. but mostly just focus on a couple key players in my line up (in the games). For any campaign I would run for this game I would want more focus on a unique story rather than the general, "catch em all" type of thing. My idea is for a single, party pokedex.

Would allowing for a single, party pokedex that records ALL party owned pokemon and seen pokemon for means of trainer levels be imbalanced?.. might the PC's advance too quickly if I was to implement this single party pokedex idea?

So i'm kinda' behind in the news here, but does this run using a D&D 4e system? It looks very similar to it, so I assume that's what's used for stats and combat rolls and shit like that.

>>9303342
Hello, Doc. See you then.

>>9303628
Not that I've made.

But, the Arms features give weapons properties.
I've not made any armor/weapons stats otherwise.
I still need to finalize how particular items work in this system since they don't all transfer over well.

>>9303805
It's more general d20 system.

HEY

HEY

SINCE PEOPLE ARE APPARENTLY ALREADY RUNNING THIS SHIT, LET'S GET A GROUP GOING HERE IN THIS THREAD, RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE I WANT TO PLAY THIS SHIT.

>>9303884
If someone GM/s I'll play, im not sure i've got the rules down enough to run it yet.

>>9303884

Second.

>>9303884
In IRC or OpenRPG or something? I'd be down if someone else organized it.

>>9303745
Keep them separate, trust me. Players need a reward for sitting in the audience while their party member quickly battles the Gym Leader. Also, players who don't make it to a session will gain "dexexp" even though they weren't there. The pokedex leveling is not difficult to do either.

For every 25 seen, 1 level. (It obviously gets harder to gain exp the more pokemon you've pokedexed)

For every 10 owned, 1 level.

The second is not really important or used to level. It's just a reward.

As far as the 'owned' rulings go:
Catch a pokemon you don't own? Add it.
Evolve a Pokemon in one you don't own? Add it, and don't erase your pokemon's younger stage.
Trade a pokemon? Erase it from your list, then add the replacement.
This prevents "trade-tradeback?" between members of the same party in order to gain levels.

>>9303884
Aw, shit, nigga, I'll be some smooth Ace Trainer with a goddamn gastly.

>>9303940

I was thinking IRC on suptg, because it's pretty easy to use.

>>9303940
I'd be game for maybe IRC or an instant messenger chat. I can never get OpenRPG to work.

>>9303884
Yes. Where when and how?

>>9303820
YOU FUCKING PLAY WITH DR MR STARK?
YOU SON OF A BITCH.

Not to sound creepy or anything, stark, but what're you like? How do you fit in time for this crap? Are you just a neckbeard like the rest of us?

>>9303967
>>9303964
>>9303940
>>9303928
>>9303926

SUPTG IRC

ROOMNAME #pokeymans

If there's anything you folks think you'll need for playing online, maybe I can help you out?

I wouldn't be able to join you guys or anything but anything content wise?

>>9304002
Beta?

>>9303978
I... I'm sorry...?

>>9304002
just keep working on the beta, what you've done so far is great!

>>9303941

>Players need a reward for sitting in the audience while their party member quickly battles the Gym Leader

That sounds reasonable. I didn't think about that aspect of it, only the potential for leveling up too quickly.

Thanks!

>>9303978
Urm... I'm in college? That's about all I'm willing to share.

>>9304007
Clever. Not that, sorry. Believe me, I would if it were ready.

>>9303884
I'll play!

>>9304046

suptg IRC

#pokeymans

GET IN HERE

>>9304010
Don't worry bro, i just wish i could play already and who better then the guy putting this together?

>this thread

>>9303983
Fucking mIRC, I can't find the suptg channel.

>>9304060
IMMA COMING

...i gotta reinstall my IRC client

Hey /tg/... who are your favorite non-pokemon characters from the pokemon franchise?

Just curious.

>>9304187
inb4shitstorm

>>9304187
As I've implied in a previous thread, a while back: Lorelei, Fuck yeah!

>>9304060
ON MY WAY SIRS.

LOAD FASTER YOU SON OF A WHORE

>>9304187
this fucker, and i liked Blaine and surge from special

>>9304187
I like ash.
I just think he's stupid-funny.
And I've watched him since I was younger then him.
Why doesn't he age?

>>9304187
Crasher Wake is the best gym leader.

Do you see anyone else being a luchador? No you don't.

>>9304187

Pick related. Gold is also a pretty cool guy.

>>9304187
Impossible to answer, as humans are also Pokemon.

Seriously. Humans with unique names are actually legendaries. Everybody else gets a species name (Fisherman, Channeler, etc.) and sometimes a personal name.

Fucking fucking fucker fucks. Someone help me figure this shit out. How do I connect to the suptg channel with mIRC?

These two

I really liked this episode and Cissy was a pretty cool gym leader.

Really looking forward to making a character for myself in this soon, I have high expectations.

>>9304268
irc.thisisnotatrueending.com
/join #suptg

Stark do you know what the coolest thing would be? Sit down and write up an example character generation because I'm fucking retarded.

>>9304361

I think this anon has a good idea.

>>9304310
It still says it can't connect. What the fuck am I doing wrong?

>>9304361
Thirded.

>>9304361
The correct term is 'special' you retard. I want an example too for I am 'special'.

Whats the core mechanic I am confuse.

>>9304361
It's complex in its simplicity. You have 65 points with which you buy D&D stats, 1 stat costs 1 point each and all stats have a minimum of 6.

You do not choose a class at character creation. Classes are not so much classes as they are package feats.

I wouldn't mind one myself either. Since no-one in my group wants to play Adeptus Evangelion I might see if they'll play Pokemon RPG, with suitable mindfuckery added of course.

Can anyone say 'Ash in a coma'?

>>9304510
So can I take more than 1? Say I want to be a Ace Trainer / Researcher who some days wants to start his own lab / pokemon gym.

>>9304565
This picture is fucking awesome sauce.

>>9304403
Ok, i'm in the suptg IRC channel, now where's the pokeymans?

STARK HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN TURN ORDER AND INITIATIVE?!

>>9304611

Type /join pokeymans into the textbar.

where can I get a doc or pdf of the character sheet?

>>9304713

He posted a rapidshit of it (he being Stark) of it in .docx last Friday, but no idea where that went.

>>9304703
Pokemon have a speed stat. Init is highest speed to lowest speed. On tie, highest level goes first. If that ties, roll-off.

>>9304565
Even better: If you like eva, make them all crippled, either physically, emotionally or both. Have them choose one massive flaw each. Make the classic obstacles of the series equal parts painful to overcome (Leaving Mount Moon? Time to jump off a cliff to get to Cerulean) and pathetic that they can't do it (NOPE SORRY, TREE'S IN THE WAY).

Not with too much railroading though.

(Also if you don't mind other groups #AdeptusEvangelion at irc.rizon.net STILL needs more players)

>>9304783 make them all crippled, either physically, emotionally or both

And therein lies the problem, I'm afraid. That's pretty much why at least one guy didn't want to play: he didn't want the accompanying mindfuck that he knew he'd get from AdEva (hats off to the 2-3 other guys who were positively thrilled with the idea).

That's why if I planned to work that in, it'd be subtle and not as overbearing. I'll leave AdEva and CoC to do the straightforward "You guys suck, and you'll never amount to much, and you'll all die alone" thing.

>>9304600
Here, have another.

What level should it be?
What class? I'll give it a few pokes as well.

>>9304510
GLIPP is right. Classes are never mandatory and you must actually pick them up as you go. You start without a class. It's open ended in that sense.

Good to hear from you by the way, GLIPP.

>>9304773
Rounds:
During the start of each round, Trainers have their turns first. Refer to a trainer's DEX stat to see which trainers go first.

During their turn, a trainer can make a Trainer Action, Issue a Command and Shift.
Trainer Actions are;
Using a feature.
Using the Pokedex.
Using an item.
Returning/Sending Out a Pokemon.
Making a Trainer Attack.

Shifting is moving. Trainer can move 5 meters or 5 spaces per round, adding (or subtracting) DEX modifer.

Issuing a command is telling your pokemon what to do during that round. If you use a Poke Ball, this counts as your "Issue a Command" for that round. Your pokemon may still Shift but they may not use a Move.

If you send out a pokemon, that pokemon may not use a Move or Shift that round.

Speed determines the order that pokemon move during the round after the trainer turns are done.

During a pokemon's turn (the pokemon you issued a command to), They may use a Move and Shift.

Moves are what each pokemon have to use as attacks/buffs etc. during their turn.

Shifting is how much that pokemon can move during the round referring to the pokemon's Speed Capabilities.

>>9304713

>ITT Stark hitting buttons without saying anything his post like a fucking idiot.
>>9304713
see
>>9302354
>>9302332

Stark, I can't get over how fucking retarded your trip "Dr. Mr. Stark" is.
Why would a misclick matter?

>>9305144
One with one poke seems right, just how a character would start at the absolute beginning and what's done to customize their first.

>>9305185
I can't write on pngs ;_;

>>9305144
Very beginning is a good place to start, as if a confused old professor has just asked if you're a boy or girl.

So are you guys going to use the four/five main regions, or making up your own?

I'm thinking of making my own; this does have a system for making up regions, right?

>>9305454
Does any PnP game have a system for making up regions? If you want your own world, draw out a map with pencil, and fill in the rest with your imagination--same as with any game.

This is Stickers. Our lovable trainer who just started.
He has no exp and he's level 0. I'll post his Squirtle, Mr. Stamps, in a bit.

Ffffff. This is the first thread about PTA I've been able to actually read through... and it looks even more awesome than I imagined! I've got a couple of guys at work that are wanting to start up a D&D group - I'm gonna mention this to them, see if they'd be interested.

Awesome work, Dr. Mr. Stark!

>>9305567
so positive modifiers are +1 for every two stats? what would 11 be? +0 or +1

This is Mr. Stamps. A pokemon given to Stickers by Professor.... whatever.

>>9305921
+11 would be 0
Every two above 10 = +1 modifier
Every one below 10 = -1 modifier

>>9305984
>Name: Mr. Stamps
>Gender: F
>my face

It seems I've volunteered to be a DM for one of these games, Mr Stark. Would you be available later Tuesday afternoon to help me, the other DM(s), and the players get acquainted with everything? That would give us time to go over all the rules and make characters.

>>9306136
No promises.
I'll try to be around here tomorrow night though to answer any questions. And there probably will be questions.

>>9306136
Preemptive strike:
>HOW POKEMON STATS WORK
Always round down unless stated otherwise.

HP stat:
Pokemon’s Level + (HP stat x 3)
As long as the pokemon is above 50% of it’s full HP, an 8 hour rest will recover HP equal to 25% of its Max HP.

Attack stat:
Add to Melee, Ranged* damage.

Defense stat:
Subtract the Defense stat from Damage from Melee or Ranged* Moves.
You may add 1 evasion bonus for every 5 points in Defense when targeted by a Physical Move.

Sp. Attack stat:
Add to Ranged, Melee* damage.

Sp. Defense stat:
Subtract the Sp. Defense stat from Damage from Melee* or Ranged Moves.
You may add 1 evasion bonus for every 5 points in Sp. Defense when targeted by a Special Move.

Speed stat:
Higher speed stat goes first during round. You may add 1 evasion bonus for every 10 points in Speed when targeted by a Move.

You may only add an evasion bonus once when getting targeted.

I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out pokemon leveling. How many attribute points do they get when they level up?

>>9306219
How to add to a pokemon’s Stats:

Keep the Base Stats in one column on the pokemon’s character sheet. Keep the stats added through level up in another column. Keep their Actual Stats in a third column. The Actual Stats is the sum of the Base Stats and added stats.

Here is a neutral natured Charmander’s Base Stats. This Charmander is at level 1.
HP - 4
ATK - 5
DEF - 4
SPATK - 6
SPDEF - 5
SPEED - 7

When a pokemon levels up, you must put a stat point into a stat that won't ruin the Base Relation of a pokemon's base stats. The Base Relation of stats is the order of the stats according to the highest Base Stat of a Pokemon, followed by the seconded highest Base Stat and the next highest Base Stats after that, until you have created a list of the order of a pokemon’s Base Stats from highest to lowest. Ruining the Base Relation means when you add a Stat Point to a stat while leveling up, the Base Relation was changed.

This Charmander’s Base Relation is:
Speed, Special Attack, Attack and Special Defense, Hit Points and Defense

This means you must put a stat point into Charmander's SPEED at level 2. So that the Special Attack of the Charmander does not equal Speed, ruining the Base Relation.

When it comes to ties in a Pokemon’s Base Relation, you never need to keep those two stats equal. The difference between two stats, tied in the Base Relation, does not matter, as long as the next highest stats in the Base Relation is kept higher then the tied Base Stats and the next lowest stats in the Base Relation is kept lower then the tied Base Stats.

>>9306266
And that is why I started posting these rules.
>>9306269
Let’s say at level 4, you added to Charmander’s ATK. This is what its stats now look like:
HP - 4 + 0 = 4
ATK - 5 + 1 = 6
DEF - 4 + 0 = 4
SPATK – 6 + 1 = 7
SPDEF - 5 + 0 = 5
SPEED – 7 + 1 = 8

At level 5, for example, you may not add to HP or DEF because that will ruin Base Relation. It would tie with ATK.

Here is that Charmander at level 20, when spreading its stats evenly.
HP - 4 + 3 = 7
ATK - 5 + 3 = 8
DEF - 4 + 3 = 7
SPATK - 6 + 3 = 9
SPDEF - 5 + 3 = 8
SPEED - 7 + 4 = 11
Notice that the Stat points that are being added are almost all equal per different Stat when choosing to evenly distribute Stats.

Here is that same Charmander when its trainer is raising its prominent stats.
HP - 4 + 0 = 4
ATK - 5 + 0 = 5
DEF - 4 + 0 = 4
SPATK - 6 + 9 = 15
SPDEF - 5 + 0 =5
SPEED - 7 + 10 = 17
The Base Relation of the Base Stats is maintained here. You do not need to add stats evenly as long as the Base Stats’ Base Relation is kept.

>>9306296
Here is that same Charmander when its trainer is trying to make it hit harder with Melee
Moves.
HP - 4 + 0 = 4
ATK – 5 + 6 = 11
DEF - 4 + 0 = 4
SPATK - 6 + 6 = 12
SPDEF - 5 + 0 = 5
SPEED - 7 + 7 = 14

This can be frustrating when you want a Charmander who is a Melee sweeper. This is where Natures come in to play.

A Brave, which adds ATK and takes SPEED, natured Charmander instead would have these base stats:
HP - 4
ATK - 7 (Instead of 5)
DEF - 4
SPATK - 6
SPDEF - 5
SPEED - 5 (Instead of 7)

A Nature will add two to a Base Stat and subtract two to another Base Stat, making a completely different Base Relation in many cases. Now you can focus more on this Charmander's ATK without even worrying about increasing its SPEED.

Look at this Brave Charmander, now at level 20.
HP - 4 + 0 = 4
ATK - 7 + 10 = 17
DEF - 4 + 0 = 4
SPATK - 6 + 5 = 11
SPDEF - 5 + 0 = 5
SPEED - 5 + 5 =10
This Charmander can now potentially be a sweeper with its superior ATK and SP.ATK, plus with some SPEED it gains evasion bonuses. Though, due to its lower other stats, if this Charmander fails to defeat an opponent it is likely to be swept itself.

What does mean?
Nature matters. The nature determines what kind of build you can have without the use of vitamins.
Vitamins (Carbos, Iron, Hp Up, etc.) may be used up to 5 times per pokemon and add to a pokemon's Base Stats, allowing you to modify your pokemon's Base Relation.

Any questions?

>>9306357
How long did it fucking take to figure this out?

Is it balanced/well playtested?

How do you normally handle natures? Do you let your players choose them or random generate them? How about on starter pokemon?

>>9306357
How does evolution change Base Relation? Do you use the new order of the base stats? Do you get stat bonuses?

>>9306400
>How long
Very long
>balanced?
now it is

>>9306403
Natures are randomly generated for wilds. I let my players choose their starter's natures as well as any pokemon they brought along with the to pick out their starter.

Oh shit, I'm actually here to see one of these threads. Have the folks over in #pokeymans already hammered out the game or is there still room for a player who has yet to even glance at the rulebook?

>>9306296
Wait, are you not doing two stats per level anymore?

>>9306456
during evolution, you restat your pokemon, with its new base relation you get to reallocate stats wherever you'd like.

>>9306612
There's at least 2 separate groups already.
Feel free to join the channel to see if anybody else is up to DMing a third group

Why is my trip code disappearing?
>>9306647
I am not. With the new Final system, Base Relations, no longer Spacing (outdated about 5 months ago), so it's just one level. Less numbers, faster outcomes of battle.

A friend of mine had a question: Can you get a pistol, and shoot other trainers?

>>9306849
Potentially? I suppose. I'd think guns were never really invented though, with the poke ball and all. It's cheaper and more efficient to train a pokemon to flamethrower someone then to buy guns/bullets/etc, even before the Poke Ball.

Even formal militaries would probably use pokemon before putting soldiers on the line with weapons.

Also, pokemon are smart. They would figure out what guns were and do picture related.

>>9306849
Or at the very least, throw heavy rocks at them

"I choose yo-" THWACK

>>9306920
Yes.
See: Martial Artist, Psychic

>>9306915
Lt. Surge was in wars, man, and there's no mention of him using a gun. I think he just held his raichu out like a gun and zapped people instead. Also voltorb grenades.

>>9306988

>>9306988
No mention of guns because that is probably exactly what happened.

If someone could Archive this, it'd be a great help for people who are picking up this game. I'm heading off right now though.

I'll try to be around tomorrow to help with those who need it in starting up campaigns.

I wish the best of luck to those starting already, even though it's still alpha.

Goodnight /tg/.

>>9307440

Thank you, St. Stark.

How do I IRC?

>>9307503
see
>>9304310
>>9304707

>>9307440
archived!