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    38 KB Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)02:33 No.9180661  
    So, there's this album called Hadestown, right? It's a folk opera about the story of Orpheus, but with a twist.

    Basically, take the tale of Orpheus and mash it into the 1930s Depression, and make it a bit worse. Then, stuff in Hades and Persefone, relocate the setting to Hadestown (an Industrial hellhole located at the end of a rail-line pointed way underground), and you have the general idea of what the story and setting of Hadestown are.

    Hades himself is a suave motherfucker with a baritone voice and he's so rich he basically has a monopoly on life. In addition to undefined (but presumably relatively weaker, being that he's worried about his workers rioting) divine powers.

    So, naturally, it kinda sucks to be a joe schmoe in this setting.

    Now, the above is so short and to the point because an in-depth description of this setting would be both tl;dr and terrible as I cannot for the life of me describe it properly. I've been trying to for a while now. Instead, I'll just send you to the website for the thing, and maybe upload the album if you guys want to listen to it. I'd post youtube links but very few of the songs are actually on there.

    Go here: http://www.anaismitchell.com/hadestown/libretto.html

    tl;dr: Greek Gods in Dirty 30s America, Hades owns You. What do.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)02:34 No.9180687
    Holy crap, /tg/ is moving fast right now.
    >> anon 04/14/10(Wed)02:35 No.9180707
    OP, you beutiful person.
    I love you for introducing me to this!
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)02:37 No.9180730

    Glad to be of service. I've been listening to the album off and on for weeks and only actually listened to the story recently. Occurred to me /tg/ might enjoy playing around with it.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)02:37 No.9180737
    Hm, this is an in-store play at Barnes and Noble. I played it once, didn't think much of it. Maybe I'll try it again tomorrow.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)02:39 No.9180760
    ...being that this is literally the ONLY mediafire result for the album, I'm assuming it's the link I DL'd from.

    So, have some folk concept album, /tg/.

    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)02:45 No.9180832
    Anyway, some ideas:

    Even in the original opera, a speakeasy is a central setting to the plot. Clearly, there is a mob presence in Hadestown.

    Apparently Cerberus can be controlled with "the bone and the bread." Could be a way out of Hadestown? Hades would not be pleased.

    Booze running.

    The Fates interfere with reality here. Getting out of Hadestown involves tangoing with THEM as much as with Hades.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)02:53 No.9180939
    Bump 2/5. I'll let it drop if there's no interest.
    >> anonymouse 04/14/10(Wed)02:55 No.9180955
    hm, the music is made of win...
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:02 No.9181049
    Bump 3/5.


    It's a good album, ya, but this is /tg/, not /mu/ so I was hoping to get some ideas flowing for using the setting.

    But my brain is just failing on ways to do it that don't just feel like Dirty Thirties Redux.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:04 No.9181073
    Bump 4/5.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:04 No.9181077
    This is fucking awesome. thank you so much op. you made my day.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:07 No.9181114

    Again, glad to be of service. It IS good music.

    So, any Greek myth fans hanging around who feel like tossing their two cents in about how the rest of the pantheon would interact with a world like this?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:08 No.9181125
    I honestly would try a little earlier in the night(depends on where you are from) indiana fag here. /tg/ would be all over this shit but it just might not be the right night for it. O wish I could contribute. I will in the next thread. i'm to busy listening to it.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:09 No.9181155

    It's pretty damn late at night here, too, so yeah, if this flunks I'll try again tomorrow, earlier. I mean, outlook: not the best, but I'm seeing some people actually listening to it and enjoying it, so it could still go somewhere I guess.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:11 No.9181184
    I >>9181125 am a BIG fan of greek mythology. but I can't stop listening to it. I promise to help next time around.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:12 No.9181189
    If you post again tomorrow and I see it I'll throw around some ideas for a while; I'd like to have a chance to download and listen to the album first.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:14 No.9181225
    Well, that's about all I needed to try again. Besides, posting the album and being all "so guys ideas" thirty seconds after isn't the best course of action.

    So, topic to fill the time or something: Hadestown's Hades, second-best Hades voice ever, or second-best Hades voice ever?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:15 No.9181237
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    So much trumpet. I think I'm in love.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:18 No.9181287
    second to whom?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:19 No.9181304

    The Hades from the Disney Hercules.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:24 No.9181378
    Bump 5/5, because not finishing the series would bug me.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:25 No.9181388
    For some reason this music makes me think of The Clockwork Quartet.
    >> anonymouse 04/14/10(Wed)03:27 No.9181408
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    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:28 No.9181425
    Winrar won't extract Track 16 of this album for some reason. Anyone else having this difficulty?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:30 No.9181451

    Went to the first performance out in some middle of nowhere town in Vermont with a friend of mine.. so amazing.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:34 No.9181503

    Ah crap, file might've broken while compressing. I'll upload my copy of the album then, hopefully it'll go smooth.

    Should be about 20 minutes though, sadly.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:45 No.9181651

    18 minutes abouts, now.
    >> anonymouse 04/14/10(Wed)03:49 No.9181725
    alternatively, thepiratebay has it...
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:52 No.9181755
    I got it from there.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)03:57 No.9181823
    I think a good starting point for a setting is simple: where are the other gods?
    Hades is building his psuedo-fascist "kingdom of dirt", hermes is the hobo guide, Persephone is doing the speakeasy route, but where are the others?

    My thoughts: Hephaestus- Train man. John Henry meets mad conductor sort of vibe. Music would be driving, and repetitive.
    Zeus- If Hades gets the kingdom of dirt, Zeus has to have the kingdom of sky. But not literal. No, he's King of The Ivory City. Think 1 part Emerald City of Oz, 1 part New York, and 1 part Bioshock's Rapture. Of course, things are not as great as his propaganda would lead you to believe... Watlzy, refined, but a pounding anger
    Dionysus- Oh, man, oh man. Dionysus is the new king of cool. We're talking captain bootleg, the Al capone of the gods. A coalition of gods has thrown him from Olympus, but he has only grown in power. It doesn't hurt that he got Charon on his side. Underground railroad? Nope, the Veins, a series of wine rivers Dionysus uses to go where he must.

    I'll think of some more.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:05 No.9181932

    That's one of the things I was thinking of asking. And I -like- it.

    Persephone would be doing business deals with Dionysus behind Hades's back then, I have to guess. I mean, she can't supply an entire speakeasy with just what she can bring in a few suitcases.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:06 No.9181951
    Additionally, I give you this:


    For those who don't want to/can't torrent. Abbreviated archive name to avoid having my mediafire account deleted again.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:08 No.9181977
    I forgot, voices.
    Hephaestus- Basso Profundo. A voice like coal, dark, deep, and rough.
    Zeus- Heldentenor.
    Dionysus- kavalierbariton
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:18 No.9182100

    Alright, more Olympians. Not doing voices anymore though, as I had to look stuff up on wikipedia, and that'd take forever.

    Hera- To understand Hera's role in the setting, remember one thing: her divine animal is the Peacock. She's showy, glamorous, but not particularly helpful. And she's finally gotten sick of Zeus's philandering, and decided what's good for the goose is good for the gander...
    Ares- Is in an interesting place. Time is between two wars, so he's not what he's familiar with. However, with war of alcohol declared, he's doing his best. He's the loose-cannon cop, always too ready to fire first, and check for guilt later. Doesn't actually care about the rule, hell, he carries a hip flask.
    Athena- The instigator of Prohibition. Thought mankind could pull itself to better heights if she took away what we used to tear ourselves down. She's the christian senator who makes sin illegal, she's the one who locks us up 'for our own good'. She's the damn crown jewel of the Ivory City.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:21 No.9182149

    One thing I'm thinking about...

    Zeus presumably built his city up on... exorbitant amounts of money, if I had to guess. Hades hired half a million men to carve out his mine/domain.

    So... would Olympus actually factor into the story? I mean, I guess if it was a setting, but it was the seat of Zeus as I understand it, and that would make the Ivory City the analogue of Olympus. Which would still allow for Dionysus to be thrown out.

    I'm just wondering if Olympus should be referred to by name. I mean, it's an iconic part of the old Greek canon, but we're taking some -serious- steps away from that anyway.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:26 No.9182216

    MU Mirror
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:27 No.9182224
    Aphrodite- When the cat's away, the mice will play. Sooty train-worker Hephaestus isn't getting invited to the high up parties of the Ivory city, but his lovely wife is. Queen of this new 'motion picture' business, she's fabulously wealthy. Unknown to her hob-knob friends, she's also the funder and leader of a growing group of flapper girls, in defiance of Zeus and Athena.
    Apollo- The shining light of civilization. Too arrogant to realize that he's giving the Ivory City more than its fair share of sun, while letting the rest of the world sit in the dark, he does still jet-set over the world, in his new aeroplane.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:28 No.9182246

    ...I have never pictured a more smug man in a jet than Apollo in an old biplane towing the sun in a suit that probably cost as much as the plane.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:30 No.9182269
    I think I might call it "Olympus on Earth."
    It is supposed to be a pretty clear analogue for Olympus, but I don't know if I want it to be THE Olympus, sort of thing.

    Also, I can't think of anything for Demeter, Artemis, or Poseidon, so anyone with an idea, go for it.

    The best I have is Artemis as daring pulp explorer, and Poseidon as fat off oceanic trade, powerful but petty.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:35 No.9182312

    Poseidon is an oil tycoon who made his money off of oil rigs out at sea. Completes the triumvirate of the Gods as being rich as fuck, and gives each a unique industry: Gold, Culture, Oil.

    Demeter... has to be out of the way sometime if it's really set in the Dirty 30s. Even when Persephone is out of Hadestown, the earth is still a dead dustbowl. Of course, with the decreased focus on godly power, Demeter won't be the Start and End of weather, but... Well, one way or another she has to be indisposed.

    I've got nothing for Artemis either.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)04:42 No.9182394
    I like what you did with poseidon, and I think you gave me what I needed to wrap up.

    Demeter/Artemis/Hestia- After The Great War, people returned to their homes with a greater appreciation for what they had. This led to an upset at the divine table: Hestia, who had stepped down for Dionysus, found herself back at the table. With an increased focus on the home, rather than nature, Demeter's power began to ebb. After a great drought swept the land, Persephone returned to her mother's house to find it empty. The gods convened, and sent Artemis out to find her. Artemis was relieved to get out of the Ivory City, as her rugged, outdoorsy lifestyle had been drawing some scrutiny from athena. Particularly her choice of companions as girls "untouched by men."

    Maybe not on the same tier as the others, but a solid set.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)05:16 No.9182795

    Works as a decent wrap-up, yeah. But I had a (couple? not sure) thoughts.

    Firstly, Apollo. Keep the biplane and such, but change it up a bit. The biplane was a gift Zeus bought him, and Apollo went a little... nuts with it. He liked it too much. So at the same time as Demeter vanishes, Apollo starts taking longer, lower joyrides around, and naturally the sun was more intense and hotter in response.

    Which, naturally, gives us the Dirty Thirties.

    Also, as per the original material, Hades is -everywhere.- Even outside of Hadestown, odds are he owns 45% of anything you see. Zeus is fat and happy in the Ivory City, and can muscle Hades out, but he's also not paying NEAR as much attention as he could be to what's beyond his neat little borders - which is why Hades is such a constant.

    And two things about the general feel of the setting: It's dark, but it shouldn't be just dark. More like... bad times are happening, but there's still some cautious optimism in the air for... god knows what reason. I mean, even after Orpheus fails to rescue Eurydice, her and Persephone's "toast" to him is far from hopeless.

    Also, I think we should avoid making the powers of the deities too close to their original. Hephaestus is the greatest engineer on the planet and made the train to Hades, yeah, but he isn't the spirit in every iron-working man. Hades has sway over his domain, but he isn't an absolute. Apollo's presence makes the sun stronger and such, but he doesn't literally carry the sun across the sky.

    It allows the mystique of these Supermen and Superwomen to exist without giving anyone reason to outright believe they're divine or anything.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)05:19 No.9182834
    Oh, and a note on the Fates: This is a -really- handy narrative tool. For one thing, you can very nearly speak directly to the characters with the voice of the fates, but there's also the dramatic power of, for whatever reason, overturning or bending the rules the Fates put in place.

    Shouldn't be common, granted, but it would give a great extra element to the game.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/10(Wed)05:23 No.9182874
    Aaanyway, I'mma save this thread for use in the next, play some Baldur's Gate and head to bead.

    Expect a new Hadestown thread tomorrow, closer to early evening.

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