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    51 KB Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:00 No.9147601  
    I'm in a L5R campaign at the moment, playing a Unicorn Bushi. An Utaku Battlemaiden, to be more exact. Now, my character is pretty damn hung up on horses, even for a Unicorn, and has disadvantages linking directly to this fact. She also possesses the Inner Gift called Animal Ken, which for those of you who can't be bothered to check up on it allows her to communicate with animals on an almost supernatural level.

    Now, a horse whisperer in the Unicorn clan with more than a few ranks in Animal Husbandry means you're headed straight down Glory highway. It didn't help much that the rest of the party sought to take advantage of my Glory (especially the Mantis) and, let's say "embellished" the stories around me a little. And suddenly, I'm some kind of prodigy.

    During all this, I'm contacted by a Unicorn representative about a sub-quest taming some kind of Utaku super-steed for the Daimyo or somesuch. After a whole shitload of work, I tame the giant monster of a horse, only for the Daimyo to promptly give it to me as a gift, since it was still a bit... volatile. So, the equivalent of a masterwork task plus a gift of incredible sentimental value? Suddenly I'm the magical pony princess of the Unicorn clan and I've got a fucking bullseye painted on my forehead as far as politics are concerned.

    Anyway, we get contacted by some high ranking official about ronin having captured some noblemen in some ass-backwards village they probably shouldn't have been hanging around in the first place. A plan gets formulated by people smarter than I am, one which pretty much relies on me taking care of any runners. Naturally, once shit gets real, people start running and I give chase.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:03 No.9147630
    A few reach their horses and head for the hills, with me chasing after them. I take them out, one after the other, until one of them leaps over a low stone wall. Now, at character creation, I took the Bad Fortune disadvantage, and rolled the result that means I will automatically fail one roll at any point. Guess which roll?

    So, my horse manages to run straight into the wall, both of us go down, and the ronin flees, leading to my current conundrum. How does a Unicorn horse whispering prodigy on the greatest horse ever born explain being outrun by some two-bit ronin on a workhorse in a way that doesn't involve being demoted to mocking stables or seppuku? Bad fortune screams "I am cursed" and claiming it was a mistake would shame both me and my family.

    To make matters worse, I might have been able to get a few shots off before the ronin got away, but my unnatural fixation with horses meant I spent those precious seconds making sure my super-special horsie wasn't too badly hurt.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:06 No.9147673
    Either get someone else to cover for your mistake, or take it like a samurai. Subordinates make excellent scapegoats, especially if you can blame them for doing a shoddy job prepping your horse.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:07 No.9147680
    Break your bow in half.

    Say that it snapped while you were lining up a shot. Put all the blame on the craftsman.

    He'll probably be executed, but you'll still have your honor.

    On the other hand, since you can talk to animals, why not just have the ravens pluck out his eyeballs and let hims starve to death?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:09 No.9147696
    >How does a Unicorn horse whispering prodigy on the greatest horse ever born explain being outrun by some two-bit ronin on a workhorse in a way that doesn't involve being demoted to mocking stables or seppuku?
    Ronin? What ronin?

    Or...IT WAS A TRAP!
    And then you killed damn near all of them. Some may have escaped while you were slaughtering their honorless comrades.

    Or something like that. I don't know. Never played L5R though I'd like to.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:12 No.9147718
    Not "talk" as much as somewhat sense what they are feeling and they don't register me as a threat. Essentially, I'm one of them as far as they are concerned. Besides, even if I could do that, it's not like there are a hundred ravens just hanging around in every field in Rokugan.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:13 No.9147726
    Lie....Lie lie lie. Make sure the blame falls on someone else or manufacture another reason.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:14 No.9147731
    >He'll probably be executed, but you'll still have your honor.
    Lying gives you an honor penalty, dude.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:18 No.9147765
    You have a Mantis. They lie. Now, if you ask him to lie for you, you'll still be taking that hit to your Honor. But since he was trying to benefit from your good name, he'll probably cover for you without you asking. Since you appear to have reached a somewhat high level of renown, he should make for a great witness and make all this go away. If he doesn't, he fails at being a sneaky pirate bastard.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:18 No.9147768

    Say it broke in your hands. This is technically true and hence not Honor loss.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:20 No.9147792
    Still qualifies as "deliberately deceiving another".
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:21 No.9147801
    Blame the whole thing on demons. Failing that, go with >>9147696 and say it was a trap designed to steal the super-horse from you.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:22 No.9147810

    This will be hard for your character but.. blame the horse.

    You commanded the horse to jump and it didn't. That's why the ronin got away. The daimyo who gave you it will be spurned, of course, but I have a way around that.

    Give the horse seppuku. It was such a great and noble beast that you treat it like a samurai and let it die in honor for its failure. Since it has no thumbs of its own, you do the deed. The shame goes on the horse-samurai, who is dead, and you also have complimented your daimyo for the horse by elevating it.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:22 No.9147816
    This, pretty much. If you want that sweet honor, you tell the truth and take the glory loss. If you want to keep your glory, you lie and you take the honor loss. You might want to keep quiet about the last part no matter which one you pick, though.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:25 No.9147845
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:25 No.9147848
    >Horse seppuku

    DO IT.

    No being his second. Real men (and horses) do it on their own.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:25 No.9147851
    So the code of honor doesn't allow for freak accidents and what amounts to acts of God?

    Fuck that, become a ronin yourself.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:25 No.9147856
    Well, obviously you could have killed the ronin in question with a well-placed bow shot. But you realized in a moment of sympathy that the workhorse upon which he rode had been abused by his former masters (signs of malnourishment, whipping, etc), but was showing signs of recovered health. CLEARLY the ronin had the tiniest fleck of gold in his money-grubbing heart, taking good care of this poor, heartstring-pulling case of animal abuse. Oh, and the workhorse was clearly a mare, and will be bearing children soon. That, too.

    So obviously, you did the only thing you could to show your respect for this beautiful, sympathetic scene of the bonds between human and animal, crafting a suitable display by which they could escape to a better life of mutual friendship and happiness by sacrificing a bit of your own honor. Because that's what a decent person who loves animals would do, and that is EXACTLY how it happened.

    Signed, your friendly, neighborhood Mantis.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:27 No.9147879

    Her Animal Ken might let her convince it to die, if it's particularly honorable but OP mentions it's kind of.. volatile. It might attack her.

    In which case, that's all the more evidence for it being the cause of the failure.

    If you don't want to kill the horse, have it become a horse-ronin. Then keep the horse around, since samurai can have ronin agents.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:27 No.9147880
    This is actually a good suggestion, which would technically be true since I did try to jump. But I don't know if I could kill the horse. Not only is my character one step short of committing bestiality with that horse, but I spent a lot of sessions on that sub-plot. That horse is my Holy Avenger.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:28 No.9147886
    Claim poor judgement over the environment in the area. True, as you had no idea you couldn't get over that wall, and the Ronin had home-field advantage. It was their superior knowledge of the terrain that let him get away.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:29 No.9147899
    >Horse seppuku
    >Horse ronin

    Did feudal Japan really work that way?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:30 No.9147904
    >If you don't want to kill the horse, have it become a horse-ronin.

    I guess next is Incitatus the Horse Daimyo.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:31 No.9147916

    This is feudal Japan AND MAGIC. The horse might well be aware enough to qualify as sentient.


    Then either make it a tearfully dramatic choice your character struggles with, or have her send the horse away as a horse-ronin.

    With it's horse-armour and horse-swords of course.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:32 No.9147923
    Fuck yes! Horse-Ronin, travelling the land, righting wrongs, protecting the weak. Saving geishas from highwaymen and working as a yojimbo for the clergy.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:32 No.9147925
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    My character is a member of the Sparrow Clan, and for some reason nobody wants to hear a story of my people.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:32 No.9147928

    I HAD toyed with the idea of creating a Lion family where the Daimyo was ACTUALLY A LION.

    See, the Lion Clan sometimes field war lions. A particularly... eccentric Emperor is saved by one and so he rewards it with a title and lands. From that day forward, there was one castle in Lion territory where the Lions were the rulers.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:33 No.9147932

    Lone Horse and Calf?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:34 No.9147949
    Holy shit.

    I'm actually going to have to kill the horse, aren't I?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:34 No.9147952
    Even modern Japan has a ghost of a beheaded samurai with an absurdly rich bank account.

    A horse ronin is smalltime.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:35 No.9147961

    It seems the most solid option that doesn't involve compromising your honor.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:36 No.9147969

    All weilding a katana is his teeth.

    Moving faster than any human swordsman because he has more legs than them.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:36 No.9147971
    Could work. After all, if the Son of Heaven commands it, who are his left hand to question his judgement?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:36 No.9147972
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    blame the treacherous ronin and their treacherous allies' treachery and betrayal, blah blah blah scorpions, blah blah betrayal.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:36 No.9147974
    Yes. But not until after you have a duel to death with him. The horse will confess that he always loved you before perishing, leaving you a bitter and hollow woman.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:38 No.9147999

    HAH. That actually made me smile.

    Is anyone else kind of reminded of that bit in Avatar: The Last Airbender where Aang is TRIPPING BALLS from sleep deprivation and hallucinates Appa and Momo samurai-duelling?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:38 No.9148002
    More like they wanted to hear about your people until they understood you literally meant you were going to tell them about each and every single individual in excruciating detail.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:39 No.9148005

    Crane are the Left Hand. Lion are the Right.

    Scorpion the Under.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:39 No.9148012
    that was pretty awesome.
    I always blame shit on the scorpions especially when i play one.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:41 No.9148038
    I blame my mistake on the Scorpions.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:44 No.9148082
    I'd watch it.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:45 No.9148093
    If I were actually allowed to do this, I totally would. Best death of an NPC ever.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:45 No.9148095
    And so began the tale of Uma Yojimbo, travelling the lands with feet of iron and blades of steel. His strong back carried many innocents to safety and his long, black hair was forever blowing in the wind.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:46 No.9148103

    >a bitter and hollow woman

    A bitter and unfulfilled woman, you mean.
    Unfulfilled with horsecock.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:47 No.9148128
    Seriously, claim tactical disadvantage due to terrain. The ronin had been around the area for a while, and lured you into a place you were unable to pursue from.

    It's totally true. The terrain defeated you, not your enemy.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:48 No.9148137
    Once, long ago, Scorpion was walking on a sandy beach with his brother, Crab. "Ah Scorpion," said Crab, "you have tricked Lion, and you have tricked Crane, but you shall not best me. For I am safe withing my armored house, and not even your poison sting can reach me here." Scorpion eyed Crab's metal plating and nodded wisely. "That is true, my friend. But how sad for you that you are trapped in such an unwieldy prison." "What?" said Crab. "This is not a prison, it is my home." "Of course." smiled Scorpion. "And that is what everyone tells you. But, if it were not a prison, you would be able to take it off. I have heard that you were cursed, condemned to spend the rest of your life, carrying your own prison on your back." Crab said, "I can take it off whenever I want to!" Scorpion nodded sadly and said, "I'll be sure to tell everyone that." Crab stomped in the sand, "I can take off my shell whenever I want!" Scorpion said "Have you ever tried?" Crab stopped and took his house off his back and threw it to the ground. Scorpion smiled as they looked at each other. And Crab had nothing else to say.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:49 No.9148146

    A warrior admitting to being a failure as a warrior = Glory loss.

    OP wants to avoid losing Glory and Honor as far as possible. Horse-seppuku is currently the strongest proposed option for that.

    (No, I can't believe it either, but that's the way it is)
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:50 No.9148164

    Once, long ago, the Horse walked with the Scorpion. The Scorpion tried his usual bullshit, but the Horse didn't have any of it and stepped on the little bug. While walking away, the Horse heard the Scorpion claim to have stung him five minutes ago and stomped the lying bug again.

    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:51 No.9148176
    >And so began the tale of Uma Yojimbo, travelling the lands with feet of iron and blades of steel. His strong back carried many innocents to safety and his long, black hair was forever blowing in the wind.

    I don't normally say this, because it comes off as kind of silly, but... WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE DRAWFAGS WHEN YOU NEED THEM?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:52 No.9148189

    I know. Between Uma Yojimbo and Lone Horse and Calf, we've got a pretty awesome thing going -

    -wait shit this is getting furry isnt it
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:54 No.9148213
    This thread turned from serious discussion, to BAWWW, to fucking awesome!

    Uma Yojimbo, fighting the fuck out of anything that moves! What's that? Horses can't be ronin? Fuck your shit, I've got a sword and everything!
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:54 No.9148214
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    maybe they're off HORSIN' around

    oh god i laughed so hard.
    >> Library Lass 04/12/10(Mon)14:54 No.9148216
    Technically shouldn't it be Lone Horse and Foal?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:55 No.9148242
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    And thus again, is the scorpion underestimated...
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:55 No.9148243


    Ah, I KNEW Calf sounded a little off for horse-young, but was too lazy to look it up.

    Lone Horse and Foal.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:56 No.9148252
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    or colt
    >> Lone Horse and Foal 04/12/10(Mon)14:56 No.9148258

    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:57 No.9148271
    The people of /tg/ have spoken. Kill the samurai, play the horse.
    >> Lone Horse and Foal 04/12/10(Mon)14:57 No.9148272

    Colt and Calf are phonetically closer to Cub and hence are a stronger pun.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:57 No.9148280
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    Aha, I knew digging up a bit would pull off something... Tokugawa and their dogs..

    >Tsunayoshi (1646-1709), the fifth Tokugawa shogun, is one of the most notorious figures in Japanese history. Viewed by many as a tyrant, his policies were deemed eccentric, extreme, and unorthodox. His Laws of Compassion, which made the maltreatment of dogs an offense punishable by death, earned him the nickname Dog Shogun, by which he is still popularly known today.

    This dog armor is not his invention though.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:57 No.9148292
    Ok I am too curious for my own good, How would the process of Horse Seppuku even work anyways?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:58 No.9148303
    Suddenly ninja's. Hundreds of them
    >> Lone Horse and Colt 04/12/10(Mon)14:59 No.9148312

    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)14:59 No.9148330
    Horse impales himself on sword. His second cuts off his head.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:00 No.9148337

    Well, I don't know if the samurai had a process of seppuku for those too frail to carry it out, but I would imagine you rig up a setting so that the horse can stab itself and then the PC acts as 'second' and decapitates it.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:02 No.9148370
    Ain't furry until they're anthropomorphized.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:03 No.9148383
    Ninja's what?

    Oh that's right, you're a fucking idiot and used an apostrophe where it wasn't needed, you mindless underage B&. Go back to middle school, you uneducated white trash.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:03 No.9148388

    I think its far funnier to put a katana in the Horse's mouth then watch it try to stab itself.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:05 No.9148424
    You track those ronin down and kill them. Also smash the wall for tripping your horse.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:06 No.9148441
    OP, when you're done with your next session, tell us what you decided to do. This is actually a pretty interesting dilemna which is part of what makes L5R such fun.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:06 No.9148443
    and just being anthropomorphized does not make them furry...
    Anthropomorphic "animals" were around in mythology long long before furry culture.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:09 No.9148498

    Ninjas are scum that do not belong in the Celestial Order, while the samurai is empowered by the blood of the ancients.


    So of course the horse wins. By force.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:09 No.9148506
    Uni actually, the point of language is to convey information, you understood what I meant, and thus what I typed served its purpose. I do realise that I used an apostrophe incorrectly, everyone makes mistakes from time to time.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:10 No.9148519
    I will. Next session is Thursday, so I guess I'll be in touch some time after that.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:13 No.9148560
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    >horse ronin
    I should be calling furry, but all I can think of is this.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:15 No.9148579


    If you don't come back with an epic tale of noble a horse-warrior, we shall be disappoint, son.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:18 No.9148617
    I'm pretty sure the closest I will get is nobly beheading a giant motherfucker of a horse.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:20 No.9148649

    Are you saying Scorpion are the dick?
    >> Library Lass 04/12/10(Mon)15:21 No.9148657
    True, but Colt implies it's a little older, and calf implies cow, not horse.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:22 No.9148675
    See, but you got it wrong. One person can get it wrong, and then other people will continue to get it wrong, and then the entire point of language is entirely assfucked because a few chucklefucks with the collective intelligence of a moldy orange misused apostrophes and without language we'll all descend into anarchy and bloodshed.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:25 No.9148724

    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:25 No.9148735
    Well, they certainly are dicks, that's for sure.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:27 No.9148772
    I acknowledge that I made a mistake, but I also argue that because information was conveyed, my post served its purpose.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:36 No.9148930
    Ever watch Serenity?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:41 No.9149007
    That was the western notion of falling on your own sword. Seppuku is different and far more ritualistic.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:45 No.9149075

    Don't. Take the Glory hit.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)15:48 No.9149121
    Blame the terrain, performing a foolish act is a tiny Honor hit.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:02 No.9149358

    Would you do it yourself or get someone else to?

    If you do it yourself, it's less likely to be a clean, one-hit kill (I'm assuming; your horse and archery emphasis makes me think you wont be so hot on the sword)

    However, if you don't, the gesture of nobly giving your horse a warrior death might be dampened.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:03 No.9149377
    Holy shit, /tg/, I am unsure whether this is hilarious or tragic.

    My penis is confused.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:04 No.9149395
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    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:08 No.9149453
    >I took the bad fortune disadvantage
    Stopped reading there. You fucked up. So now you have to pay. Surrender your horse to the guy whose plan you fucked up. Get your own workhorse. The weakest nag ever. Now go track that motherfucker down.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:09 No.9149477
    I'm still a Unicorn bushi. Below-average kenjutsu, but decent enough strength and awesome agility. I figure the sawesome factor of killing my own ronin horse will give me the plot power to decapitate it properly.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:09 No.9149481
    You got off so easy, so very easy.
    I would have waited til you were making a jump and then had your horse fall and break it's leg.

    As far as how to explain it, if you are a real samurai, and I know unicorn have trouble with that, you'll tell the truth.
    This is L5R, if you didn't want the risk of bad fortune utterly screwing you, you shouldn't have taken it. Also, if you can't accept character death, then you are in the wrong game.
    Take your glory hit, accept your demotion, and quit bitching that the flaw you got extra character points for actually bit you in the ass.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:11 No.9149510
    I would avoid killing the horse, especially if it means as much to your character as it seems to.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:13 No.9149547
    "The life of a ronin is not worth as much as this horse." Blame the Ronin for the terrain, yourself for folly, and swear to hunt said ronin down and bring him to justice.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:15 No.9149582

    You have no idea how self flagellistic and tragic L5R is, do you?

    Literally half the game is meant to be impossible social dilemnas put forward by your GM so that you have to choose between what your duty is and what you care about.

    The other half is all stabbing dudes, though. Not gonna lie, that's pretty cool.
    >> Shanker 04/12/10(Mon)16:16 No.9149600

    Agreed. Take the hit, the horse is FAR more useful, and you can always work that glory back up. I think. Dunno.

    I don't know L5R
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:16 No.9149606
    >Choose . . . duty

    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:19 No.9149663

    That doesn't mean LOL U FAIL, it means "work out a creative solution".
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:20 No.9149677
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    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:21 No.9149687

    >I dunno L5R

    Glory is basically a number that determines how you are percieved publically. A war hero, for instance, might be 8-10. Losing glory is done by performing shameful or unpopular acts, even if they are necessary.

    Honor represents your personal, well, honor. A high number means your character is honest to the point of rigidity, a paragon of bushido. Losing it is usually done by choosing to turn away from duty to fulfill selfish desires, such as being seduced away from your guard post.

    Her duty was to kill the ronin, but she failed due to no fault of her own, so she needs to salvage her Glory but her Honor is untouched; lying would compromise her Honor, however.

    Performing horse seppuku might either give or lose her Glory. If it the GM spins it as showing her dedication and her love for the horse, it'll gain it. If he spins it as her refusing to take the blame and shunting it on to a blameless animal, she'll lose it.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:21 No.9149693
    With his kind of character should be piss easy
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:22 No.9149703
    Not bitching. Far from it. As a matter of fact, I just found the whole situation amusing since the disadvantage probably could have killed me previously, but the GM seemed to save it just to fuck with me. Besides, I doubt they'll execute me over something like that. I still have Glory out the ass, and you don't just execute famous samurai whenever you feel like it, especially since the mission was halfway successful (or if you're a pessimist, halfway failed).
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:22 No.9149706

    >creative solution

    Because having a horse commit ritual suicide in order to absolve blame isn't at all creative.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:23 No.9149728
    You should track those ronin down hire some of those archery wankers if you have to but the key is DO NOT FAIL and DO NOT GIVE UP until told too
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:24 No.9149734

    To be fair, if the GM had invoked Bad Luck to kill you, you would have been well within your rights to slap him in the face. THIS situation is precisely what Bad Luck should do. Your character has been placed in an agonising position by the random whims of chance. That's BAD LUCK RIGHT THERE
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:25 No.9149767

    You can.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:31 No.9149876
    The Glory isn't the problem as much as me having been lifted to the point of MAGNIFICENT HORSE PRINCESS OF THE GLORIOUS UNICORN CLAN AND HER INVINCIBLE SPIRIT HORSE, and it looking extremely bad if I was beaten by an honorless drifter in what I'm supposed to be best at. Sort of like a high-ranking Kakita getting beaten in a duel by a homeless dude with a rusty piece of scrap metal.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:32 No.9149893
    Ah, right then.
    Hmm, your group will look bad because they are associated with you.. if your Glory drops.
    Your choices mostly revolve around either protecting Honour or Glory. This should be a good opportunity for you to decide which is more important to your Shiotome. As far as slaying or punishing the horse... that is very funny, but very silly. Your clan likely will laugh attempts to blame the horse off. Also, the Unicorn often think more of their steeds than of their Samurai. That havign been said, they are nearly as forgiving as the Phoenix, as far as failure and the like are concerned. Unless you are under one of the first two Khans, in that case, expect no mercy.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:34 No.9149928
    More like, a Kakita Kenshinzen beign beaten by a no account ronin in a duel. Which happened to many of the Grey Crane's students during the clan war, while the ronin Daryia was roaming around, taking their tsubas for new eyepatches. Sorta embarrassing for the Crane as a whole really.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:35 No.9149940
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    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:36 No.9149952

    Horse seppuku is cool, but having the horse recognized as a samurai and docking it Glory points is cooler.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:36 No.9149956
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:36 No.9149962
    So "I was over confident and made a stupid mistake" is still an option.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:37 No.9149966

    >the Unicorn often think more of their steeds than of their Samurai

    Which is precisely why the horse-seppuku will work!
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:37 No.9149968
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    get a new horse.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:37 No.9149972

    I wanted to play this until I learned it had already been done.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:38 No.9149987

    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:38 No.9149995

    There aren't even angry messages in these anymore.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:39 No.9150009

    While funny, Musashi Miyamoto was much more than a nameless drifter.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:39 No.9150030
    So say it eat that humble pie or blame the kami
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:40 No.9150046

    Humble pie. This mission wasn't an ABJECT failure.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:44 No.9150141

    Bear in mind that high Status comes with a price. Failure looks bad; failure looks WORSE for someone of high Status because more people are paying closer attention.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:47 No.9150186
    Remember that taking the blame for a superior is an honourable action convince the the party to cover it up and take the blame.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:48 No.9150206
    He was THE nameless drifter.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:51 No.9150258
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:53 No.9150311
    I suspect the Mantis will be covering my ass due to us being on pretty good terms and him using my good name to further his own goals. Besides, he's a Mantis, and doesn't really have much in the way of Honor to begin with.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:54 No.9150333
    Then don't worry the important thing is LEAVE NO WITNESS
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:56 No.9150370
    I love this image. There's just so much to discuss. Like why anyone would need that list. Do people often forget dudes or swords, despite your implications that nobody does? What else would warrant carrying that list around with you?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)16:58 No.9150411

    He was pretty well known and famous.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)17:01 No.9150463

    Perhaps he just wrote the list, and intends to stick it on Musashi's head once he's won, so that Musashi never forgets?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)17:04 No.9150531
    Just sayin', never underestimate a guy with a crappy weapon
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)17:12 No.9150695
    >never underestimate a guy with a crappy weapon
    Well., obviously. It IS still a weapon after all.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)17:20 No.9150872
    Well, you shouldn't underestimate a guy without a weapon either. Especially not in a world where there are dudes who can set their fists on fire.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)17:29 No.9151085
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    What the hell is up with that weapon Kojiro is holding? The Drying Pole was described as being a long straight blade, not a short straight blade...

    And as for why Musashi was late... who knows, though the common belief is he did it to piss of Kojiro into acting rashly, or even that he did it to match up with the turning of the tide so the tide would be going out to aid in his escape from Kojiro's supporters after defeating him.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)17:40 No.9151328
    Lack of historical accuracy? In my gag comics? It's more likely than you think.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)17:41 No.9151359
    Sword was not to scale.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)17:59 No.9151682
    I'd worry more about loss of status than glory or honor. It is far harder to get back and means everyone gets to boss you around.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)18:02 No.9151725
    To answer the OP, how did the ronin outrun you?


    Jesus fuck, you're not in some highway or even a modern forest riding road (whatever the fuck they're called). YOU'RE IN THE FUCKING FOREST (or plains). That means potholes, rabbit holes, fucking wombat holes, landshark holes, whatever.

    Your horse stumbles and you feel a sharp pain through the telepathy. Explained.

    You do have to kill the horse, though.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)18:03 No.9151758
    Gophers, man. They ruin everything.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)18:05 No.9151795
    And this isn't Scotland, anyway, so you can't put the ball in the gopher hole and call it Golf
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)18:27 No.9152151
    You failed, but it's not over. Continue hunting the ronin down, and kill him. Once he's dead, you can go back and report. Until then, your mission isn't done, right?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)18:57 No.9152736

    If you're going to kill the horse, you might as well kill the horse in style. Give it a noble, honorable death at its own hooves.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)19:35 No.9153518
    So, /tg/ advises horse suicide. I would just like that noted in the records. Horse suicide.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)20:03 No.9154124
    No, horse seppuku. Completely different.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)20:04 No.9154152

    Explain to me how a horse committing seppuku is not a horse committing suicide.
    >> Library Lass 04/12/10(Mon)20:55 No.9155063
    Suicide is cowardly. Seppuku is honorable.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)21:02 No.9155165
    Nested hierarchy.
    The more generic term includes the more specific term, yet the more specific term does not encompass the entirety of the more generic term.

    tc;dnr: Not all cases of suicide are seppuku, but all cases of seppuku are suicide.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)21:12 No.9155374
    Technically speaking the ritual of suicide involves the death of the person performing the ritual by being beheaded by his second after slicing open his own belly. One could argue pretty easily either way on whether that is suicide or not.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/10(Mon)22:35 No.9156834
    This is the single best way to play it. Don't come back until you've hunted down the ronin and killed him.

    Afterward, since the Mantis likes covering for you, he can make up a story about how you rode down each of the honorless ronin in turn, and only one, who was doubtless a wily and skilled foe, was able to evade you. Yet tirelessly you and your noble steed rode him down for a day and a night (or however long), until you were finally able to complete your mission.

    Anyone who says that the ronin was just another generic ronin and you fucked up while chasing him is saying that the Mantis was lying. His story is therefore true and you have yet another great deed to add to your legend, as long as you can successfully locate and kill the escaped ronin.

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