Build a City on Catan. Trade wood for sheep.

Tribe numbers and related miscellenia:
142 Goblins, 10 Worgs, 2 Bear Cubs:
2 out on patrol for Death Lotus (Not returned)
11 women. Nurturing newborns to be vicious killers.
6 Diggers working to dig out warren.
2 Bow guards
4 Fish-herding
2 Royal Goblin Guards
2 Speargobs on the roadside
5 Speargobs idle (All of which have some basic crafting skills)
1 Pike-armed speargob watching over Black Lotus captive
6 Gobs working on crafting shields, spears, rope, and baskets from wicker/weeds.
4 Gobs working on ditch and wall.
8 Gobs ready to gather lumber (2 Scouts, 1 speargob)
3 Gobs training to be worgmasters
3 Shamans (Ninetoes and 2 Shamans-in-training)
1 Idle Pike Gob
84 Newborn Children. (2 weeks to usability, 4 until full maturity)
-10 worgs currently in their pen, remaining restless and occasionally getting tossed bits of fish.
-2 Bear Cubs in their own pen as well.

You have:
-25 Gold coins and 10 silver and 30 copper
-10 shovels
-A few bolts of very comfortable cloth
-2 gold wedding bands
-Ten silver nails from one of the more muscular Elves, who apparently was the one that had the book in his backpack.
-6 Elven corpses with associated paraphenalia (Clothes, backpacks, some lengths of rope, etc)
-1 Wagon, almost completely demolished
-Elf Meat
-Some goblin meat too
-Delicious ale, six bottles
-A few satchels of animal poop for poisoning weapons.
-Fishing net
-Fishing hooks
-Poisonous shrooms and antidote shrooms (And some that cause "Smelly wind" and "Overly friendly trolls")
-Ancestral Bugbear Chieftain skull

Weapons & Armor on hand:
-10 axes
-6 slings made from various pieces of cloth.
-10 stone-headed axes
-4 wooden spears with flint tips
-Your battered iron shortsword.
-2 Shortbows with 40 arrows in 2 quivers
-3 Bolas
-4 suits of scale armor (One worn by you, and two worn by your Royal Guard Gobs Onebrow and Clawfoot)
-4 pikes
-1 dwarf axe (Wielded by you)
-2 poisoned iron daggers (Black Lotus poison)

>>8725710

It should be noted at this point that the women have just given birth, a sign generally viewed as favor, with only one female dying (Her litter, being particularly vicious, clawing their way out of her). Even though you've lost one woman to the vicious birthing process, Ninetoes is happy to report a whopping eighty-four mouths to feed. Delicious fish for everyone! And maybe a sip of your private stash of ale. Maybe.

>>8725660
A city? A glorious city, indeed! Your current population could found a new city, should you dare look towards the heavens!

Or you could just enslave those humans in the not-too-distant village down the road and just use their little village to form your new, glorious Goblintopia. Except without the meta-humor and long wait times between shit getting done.

Aw yeah Settler Quest. How late is it? Any chance the Caravan might stop for the night?

Any chance we can magic up some scrying magic or something to get a more exact idea of what's in the caravan?

>>8725794
>>8725747
It's around midday-slash-dusk by the time you get the news. They're not THAT far out from the village, but if nature were to intervene and, say, rocks fall in their way...

You could probably waylay them a bit. Ninetoes, his hands still bloody from anointing the newborns in a mixture of fish, worg, and gob blood, looks at you with a broken-toothed smile. "Scry? Yes, I can scry! Blood is all-seeing. Blood is everywhere...yes, Glorious One, I can have the world work with one such as I."

Ninetoes seemed a bit off for his usual form, but that was likely due to a mixture of smoke and blood fumes inhalation. Or something. "What do you wish to know, Glorious Leader?"

>>8725857
"What those weakling have that we can take."

That character looks a lot like this comission I did yesterday.

So, here's some contribution.

>>8725857

which is the most dangerous

>>8725857

Rocks seem like a good idea. Find a way to throw rocks in the path, preferably by non-magical means as we might want to conserve some of our magical prowess in our forces for actual fighting.

>>8725917
that is still awesome.

>>8725710
to simplify things i suggest to create a "cast" system: choose the youth worth of being warrior trough a tournament system, and let the others do the digging/crafting while the warriors train. Obviously if something happens everybody can be called to fight, possibly putting the veteran pointing a spear to their back

>>8725710
send the wood goblins out to cut the smaller less noticeable limbs off of nearby trees.

after we attack.

for the attack, block off the road (rocks or a tree). get all your gobs you can arm with weapons and the rest can use cloth slings to thro stones

I keep picturing the goblins as the minions from overlord.

>>8725920
>>8725893
Ninetoes nods, looking at his bloodslicked palms. You don't notice anything particularly MAGICAL about the fact that he was doing that. You expected, well, torrents of blood. Or, at the very least, some scary chanting and perhaps the occasional scream as the shaman invoked the power of the gods.

Instead, you were treated to a quiet affair, the shaman grumbling to himself for a few moments before looking back to you. "The...dwarfs. Yes. Travelers. Adventurers. They are skilled, but their death is written. In blood."

He gives a short pause before exhaling, shaking his head vigorously. A few flecks of spittle hit the ground in the former bear cave, that now serves as your private den.

"And...wealth? Lots to take. Too much. Women. Drink. Weapons. Coin. So much deliciousness, too, Leaderrrrr."

>>8725993
>>8725917
It certainly is! I still have it saved on my PC.

>>8725968
You assign the three "Worgmaster" gobs to begin shoving rocks into the roadway, as well as tasking the two speargobs watching the roadside. They don't need a LOT of debris, but just enough to make it annoying for the caravan to progress without busting one of their fancy wheel-thingamajigs.

ready the war band. hand out sheilds, spears and sling to whoever can use them. dont forget to poison the weapons.

>>8725917
As the one who requested it yesterday, let me say thanks a lot again. It actually is the very same character.

>>8726019
The worth of a youth through tournaments? Sounds a tad like everyday gobbo life. Except instead of ordered tournaments, its making sure that your coworkers don't take a sudden turn for the more intellectual side and decide there's more food to be had WITHOUT you around.

>>8726039
How many of your gobbos, or which ones in particular (If you care to specify) do you wish to send out on the attack? Correspondingly, how much of your arsenal do you want to throw at the ambush? Any particular tactics, or just, "Rush the stupid humans/their dorf buddies and shed their blood in glorious slaughter!".

Which, I should mention, is a very viable tactic.

>>8726051
Overlord? UHH, I mean, Glorious Leaderrrr?

>>8726175
basicaly put the close cobat gobs on ethir side of the road.hidden. the slingers near them. when the caravan starts to move the rocks, have your cc gobs charge and your slingers sling.

yourself, the wargs and bear cubs shsll be s bit farther back so that you can charge them from the rear

>>8726337
all the goblins save for 5-6 to gaurd the hq and the women and kids

>>8726370
and as >>8726240
said give it everything we got

>>8726300
Take at least as many Goblins as we have weapons. Hand the best stuff to the toughest and oldest, and when you run out of weapons take a handful or two of the youngsters as well and tell them to attack with sticks and stones, or their teeth if they must.
Have your shamans set up some sort of dust, fog or smoke cloud to confuse the humans, then charge them, using the younglings as living shields to protect your elite. Take the bowmen out first, then concentrate on the dwarves and longsword users. Ideally, your shamans should zap the latter with their magic to soften them up a bit before you take them on.

>>8726337
>>8726240
You have the following trained military forces. Gobs beyond that should be considered "untrained".
4 Pike-bearing Gobs (2 Royal Guards, armored in scale armor in addition to pikes)
2 Bow gobs bearing shortbows, each with 20 arrows.
8 Speargobs armed with flint-tipped spears and reed/wicker shields.
6 Axegobs (Formerly lumbergobs, but just as good on flesh as they are with wood) with stone-headed axes.
2 Scout Gobs, even sneakier than your average gob, armed with stone-headed axes
3 Worgmaster gobs, capable of taming and easily riding worgs. All other gobs can ride worgs just fine, but these are better-er at it.
10 fully-grown worgs. Vicious worgies. Play nice!
2 Bear cubs. Treat with care, or not.

rocks from above can also be used as weapons, not only to block the passage

>>8726496
>>8726406
>>8726370
Rallying almost the entire camp except for the women and chil'ren, you get a grand total of forty-seven gobs ready to make war. Of which, a good portion are quite well trained in warmaking. The remainder, you suppose, will do the gruntwork.

You also have the elite diggers amongst this militia core. Though not trained in DIRECT combat, you suppose they could do quite a bit of good (Or bad, depending on your point of view) for the pre-battle work.

Also, don't forget the three shamans under your command. Ninetoes and his two underlings are powerful examples of the Goblin policy of "Might makes everything alright!"

maybe it's better to avoid using the cubs... we should wait until the caravan stops because of the debris and then start having LOT of gobs throwing stones, placing 3/4 of our forces behind the caravan and the others (possibly the worgs) in front of them to avoid an escape.
When we run out of stones we charge and kill

ITT: Goblin Commander

also when can we annex the red goblins and get their lumberjack chainsaws?

>>8726337
poorly spelt but sounds good. the diggers could make a small ditch to catch the wagon wheels. the shaman could work with the slingers.

What are the shamen capable of, combat-wise?

The diggers should put some quick pit traps on either side of the road for the guards to fall into as they try to engage us.

Have a tree ready to fall behind them and cut off escape as they stop for the rock pile.

>>8726626
Well, Ninetoes was able to call lightning to zap the fuck out of a tree. Which saved our sorry ass.

>>8726626
Simple. They'll do what we ask of them. They'll find a way to please us. If not, they can join the front row in the charge.

>>8726545
When we attack, it should be from all directions. We have more than enough numbers to surround and swarm, and keeping the humans from making any sort of coherent battle line is important.

Our warg riders should be able to run down anyone on a horse. That's important because horses are delicious, and cavalry are dangerous bastards.

Attack in the middle of the night if we can. Silly humans can't see in the dark. And our scouts can be sent in to sneak around and kill people while they're sleeping prior to our attack if they've made camp.

>>8726418
>>8726564
Arming your makeshift band to the best of your current reserves, you find yourself mildly ruminating that you don't have enough spears and axes for everyone to pass about. There's enough shields for the up-close combatants, but that still leaves a good portion of your forces unguarded and left with only slings. Slings, of course, are actually the simplest to make and the river provides an endless supply of stones.

>>8726578
After you destroy their annoying giant-magnifying-glass machine. On rails.

>>8726626
>>8726623
The shamans are actually quite powerful, and Ninetoes gives one of his regular self-demeaning bows. "We can accomplish a great many things, Glorious Leader! We have gathered enough...supplies for a number of rituals. The book I found has been mildly enlightening, sirrr. But I can at least pick off a few of those pesky humans beforrre I retirrrre."

As for the diggers, you've already dispatched gobs to blockade the road with some hefty rocks. You could dig and cover something to catch the wagon wheels if you were really inclined, Oh Glorious Leader, but the immediate goal here- to stop the caravan from fleeing- has been accomplished.

Take everyone able to chuck rocks. The women and children should shut up and stay in the warren.

Rock pile blocks the road, and have that tree ready to fall behind the last wagon so they're blocked in.

The shamans should magic targets proving difficult for us.

Everyone else able to use a weapon takes one, all the rest are going to chuck rocks. Have hidden pits or trenches along the side of the road.

The worg riders will strike at an opportune moment. Zip in at noncombatants and haul them off to distract the convoy's fighters--but they should keep an eye out so they don't get killed in the process.

Leave the bear cubs to guard the camp in their own fashion. Let's wait till they're bigger for real fighting.

>>8726806
Oooh, attacking in the dark sounds nice, too. Maybe our shamans can blot out the moon and the stars, and curse the flame of their torches to not burn.

>>Attack in the middle of the night if we can. Silly humans can't see in the dark. And our scouts can be sent in to sneak around and kill people while they're sleeping prior to our attack if they've made camp.

This. It won't stop the dwarves, but they'll be our first target. We can take them out with our poison daggers, or have the shamans strike them with magic, or just mob them before they're ready.

Idea for using the women and children: bring them along, but they don't engage in combat. They stay positioned around the outskirts of the battle and shout/bawl at the top of their lungs, making it sound like our numbers are greater than they actually are.

mission:steal their shit
side- misson:kill them

atttack plan:

attack in a U shaped formation hand to hand gobs, slingers and shamen on ethier side. your self and the wargs behind them ready to attack any caravaners who look like they will put up a good fight. leave the road ahead (that the wagon cant pass though) empty. hopefuly they will see a escape route and try to take it. it will be easer to kill them if they run and if the escape we still get a wagon full of loot

>>8726773
>>8726806
>>8726890
Thankfully the rocks are a fair ways ahead, so the efforts of your loggers don't appear to be noticed. Working quickly, they hack at the trees, readying a large oak to tumble over with a friendly heave-ho.

>>8726901
Readying everything, you and your gobs prepare. The shamans indicate that, yes, they could easily make the campsite total darkness when the caravan gets stuck and holds out for the evening. They could even go so far as to, possibly, be able to overcome the hardiness of the dorfs and maybe even manage to kill one of them. Or, if the Gods were REALLY favoring them, both.

The humans, though, look fairly alert as they march alongside the carriage and the wagons. You scouts keep pace with the flanks of the assembly, ready to slip in when they're resting and start hacking open skulls with their axes.

The actually trained gobs are holding their ground, whilst those carrying the slings and bearing improvised weapons are chittering eagerly amongst themselves. The sun has fully set by the time your ragtag band is in position.

The worgs howl towards the moon as the Ninetoes and the shamans begin their ritual. Cursing can be heard from the caravan as the men fan out. Several human men, dressed in fairly nice clothing, emerge from the lead wagon with tent stakes and tarps in hand. Loose kindling is gathered, and one of the soldiers grabs an axe from the carriage and begins to head into the woods for lumber.

He is slowly heading towards your position, looking for a suitable tree. Do you wish to spring the ambush now, or do something else?

>>8727191
Sneak behind him and poison dagger him from behind. It works fast, and that'll give the shamans time to finish their ritual.

>>8727191
What about just blinding the dwarves, would that be easier than outright killing them with magic?

>>8726890

This, we're small and fast; if they can't see us we're golden.

try to kill the lone gaurd quickly. one of the poisoned dagers should be good for that. if it works try to pick them off one at a time.

if it fails have the slingers sling and the hand to hand gobs charge. your self and the worgs wait and watch for any problems

>>8727392

And quietly.

/tg/, I looked forward to some awesome bugbear ghost shenanigans after I proposed that and had to bail out. I was disappoint. Do we still have to skull, or is that plan gone completely?

Have we used the poison mushrooms?

Make up a poison and coat the arrows with it.

>>8727266
It's possible, but Ninetoes says that dwarves have a good resistance to Goblin magic. Something about that age-old hatred between the races makes it a bit hard to pull the wool over their drunken eyes.

>>8727228
>>8727083
As your gobs begin to move into position, you- yourself- attempt to sneak ahead. Letting your worg stalk ahead, you draw your dagger.

D20 to assassinate quietly whilst the shamans do their ritualistic gig. +4 thanks to the guy being frustrated with the impediment, and looking for timber rather than a sneaking gobbo.

>>8727392
>>8727430
We don't know how fast the poison kills, do we? Might be easier to just try and drop him quickly ourselves.

Book Keeper, in the last thread you used some D&D terms, and we seem to be D&D-esque goblins/bugbears. Does our Glorious Leader have levels and class? If so, what are they?

>>8727428
That plan will be implemented after we finish sacking this caravan. These don't come along every day, you know. That bugbear skull's not getting any harder to raise, but this opportunity can be lost if ignored.

>>8727453

rolled 10 = 10

>>8727453

rolled 3 = 3

>>8727477
Just curious if it was still there or not.

rolled 17 + 4 = 21

Rolling for stealth/assassination.

>>8727428
You do indeed have the bear skull. As a matter of fact, Ninetoes has already worked out everything TO summon the bugbear ghost. You just decided to raid the caravan as a more immediate thing to entertain yourself.

>>8727430
The poison mushrooms have been dispersed freely, and the gobs WITH weapons have already coated them in it. This includes the bowgobs.

>>8727492
+4 gives us 14. Hopefully that's just enough.

>>8727492
>>8727498

Hmm, since neither of you rolled with that +4, I propose we use this:
>>8727508

>>8727534
GEE I WONDER WHY

And we'll follow that stab up with an axe stroke if needed.

This needs to come down to hand to hand goblin vs. dwarf combat at one point. I want to start chopping dwarves up with a dwarf axe.

>>8727572

The irony would be... glorious!

Eh, 14 is pretty good to begin with. Wouldn't mind the 21, but hey, it's up to Book Keeper.

>>8727617
Dwarves are tailor-made to be goblin food. We can use all the good stuff they make, and all that beer and meat builds up to a tasty accumulation of flavouring!

>>8727655

You know, that makes sense. Once a goblin tribe manages to take down a dwarf city, they get fat, and fill in the dwarven armor quite nicely.

>>8727465
Pfft. Levels? Classes? What are those silly things? You are a GLORIOUS LEADER! Your level is above all, your class is the greatest! You're the classiest since the Classy Leader!

>>8727572
>>8727557
>>8727492
Sneaking up like only a sneaky Glorious Leader can, you draw one of the poisoned daggers. Your worg doesn't make a sound until you're within a mere few feet of the human...at which point it lunges at the man.

Stabbing down, you catch the man in the square of the back. He lets out a quiet groan before your sharp, dwarf-forged axe lops his head off. Blood sprays from the stump of his neck as the head goes rolling.

You can't help but smile in glee. It was so easy to kill with this thing! You barely felt any resistance at all!

THAT is sharpness. You'd kill to get something that good-feeling again. You only feel happier when you realize that, yes, you'll get that chance again soon.

You remove the dagger from the dead man's axe as he collapses in the woods. In the distance, the furious movements of the shamans have stopped, and the torches being brandished by the humans on patrol around the carriage seem to be rapidly smothering under a new, fearsome wind.

>>8727786
BIEL-TAN! REAP THE SWORDWIND!

>>8727786
Give his axe to a gob without a weapon. It'll be awkward probably, but it may prove better than throwing rocks.

>>8727814
Gentlegoblinoids, there is a fruity elf between us! A SPACE ELF!
LET'S EAT HIM! FOR TORG AND OUR GLORIOUS LEADER!

>>8727786
signal the slingers and the hand to hand fighters to attack.

>>8727873
Give it to the biggest goblin who isn't trained in a specific weapon.

Have the archers aim for the dwarves with their poison arrows, and fire. The shamans should also assist against the dwarves as soon as they're able.

Everyone else, including the women and children, holler as loudly as you can. Attackers--ATTACK!

>>8727453
LET LOOSE WITH ARROWS

THEN STONES

THEN CLOSE IN WITH SPEARS AND AXES!

>>8727899
>slingers and hand-to-hand fighters

Um... do you not see a problem with that? At all? Consider the animosity your fellow goblin has for all the rest of goblinkind. Archers, slingers, our hand-to-hand troops hide before them so if the humans and dwarves charge out we hit them in ambush.

>>8727939
ok signal the slingers and have the close combat gobs defend them

>>8728045
No, that won't be enough of an initial surprise. We want to hit them hard with everything we've got from the get-go.

>>8728072
As I said, have the archers and slingers fire and the combat goblins go to ground in front of them. We'll either be engaged in a ranged duel, with the advantage due to our poisoned arrows and tree cover, or they will come out to get us. At that point, the singers and archers make a firing retreat and the hidden combat goblins ambush them while they are moving forward.

>>8728125
Or we maximize the chaos and strike them hardest before they have a chance to respond.

If they have mages, they may get light if we give them time.

Archers and slingers use lanes of fire, just like we'd show them. We don't want the caravan to have time to formulate a plan.

Ah well I had a good plan but it would have required a roadside ambush. For sake of entertainment here's what I would have done.
My plan
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Split forces into 3 groups. One group acts as a distraction with the range. Holds position with spear gobs in front and lures attention to one side. Scout gobs sneak in and poison stab some stuff. We and most of the melee charge from the otherside. Worgies do a cavalry charge down one side.
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That said that's no longer an option. Let's call for a Bow-Gob rain and the charge. The worg-gobs should ride in close to the caravan itself spearing and stabbing anything that pokes it's nose out or gets to close. Avoiding the adventurers and melee, focusing on range and easy targets.

>>8727918
>>8727873
Tossing the axe to one of the fish-herders, you let out a fearsome howl for your goblinoids to begin the assault. The humans make startled sounds as they realize what's going on. Of the dwarves, you can only watch as they simply wait patiently atop the carriage, battleaxes in hand.

>>8727939
>>8727920
Arrows sail out from the treeline as your bowgobs fire on the dwarves. A constant barrage of sideways-fired shafts pepper the side of the carriage, clattering off its ironclad hide. It's invulnerable!

Oh wait. No, it's not. Your slingers start lobbing rocks, their inaccuracy more than made up for by sheer weight of fire. Rocks ranging from tiny pebbles to fist-sized stones fill the air. Some bounce off trees or the ground, but most of them fly true.

The human bowmen suddenly find themselves ducking back as one rock brains an archer, another small boulder crashing into the groin of one of the "innocent" humans loitering around the small holdup site. Worgs howl into the air as they begin to rush forward, the spear-and-axe gobs moving like vicious little monsters.

Howl after howl fills the air are sharp teeth are bared. A few slingers abandon their posts to join the charging infantry, ready to claw and bite at the swordsmen and to get but a taste of their sweet blood.

CHARGE! Whoever kills a human may eat their dangly parts!

Break out the nail-club and axe and go for targets of opportunity on the edge of fights - we want to take heads, but we sure as hell aren't dying for them.

>>8728235

Awesome, lets press the attack and retain initiative; slaughter them!

>>8728235
Wait, so the dwarf is invulnerable? Or the carriage? Have any poisoned arrows hit the dwarves?

>>8728235
Okay, we're going to take on the dwarves ourselves, with a couple of strong fighters backing us up. See if Ninetoes can smack their position with magic or something first. Protest if you want, but being daring is what made us the Bearslayer.

>>8728325
It'll get us good rep too.

Plus delicious opportunity to use dwarven axe on dwarf.

Not that we need to play it fair, having magic backup and normal backup is par for the course.

>>8728072
>>8728125
>>8728159
As the hailstorm of rocks and arrows continues, you shout for your gobs to go to ground. They do so reluctantly, but simply scamper on their bellies towards the humans. Another of the swordsmen goes down as a poisoned arrow buries itself up to the shaft in his stomach. The dwarves appear to be content behind the iron carriage, with the remaining three archers incapable of getting an accurate shot off thanks to the rocks your slingers keep on lobbing.

You know, however, that they won't be able to keep it up for long. Either they'll run out of rocks, or your troops will eventually decide to charge forward out of boredom. The shamans appear occupied in chatter with one another, Ninetoes leering at the distant cluster of human swordsmen as they take cover behind their tower shields. Rocks bounce off the wooden frames, arrows snapping fruitlessly.

>>8728398
OH WHAT.

Ah man, I only wanted to do that if they game out to get us. We should have kept the momentum.

>>8728398

Can we burn them out of their iron wagon thing?

focus on the dwarfs there feakishly tough. they need to die before they stert axeing our goblins

>>8728353
We can have our disposable meat-wall dogpile them, and use any opportunity that presents itself to swoop in for the kill.
Maybe our shamans can use their magic on the environment of the dwarves rather than the dwarves themselves if they prove too resilient to Goblin magic - kick sand into their eyes or something....

>>8728425
Better yet, SHOCK THEM.

"NINETOES, BRING THE STORMBOLTS DOWN ON THE WAGON!"

>>8728450
Yeah, we want to blast the carriage, not the Dwarves. Dogpiling them will lead to heavy casualties, I'd prefer to throw them off guard and then get stuck into them as worgs spear them from the side.

>>8728353
>>8728325
>>8728319
>>8728311
Your Royal Guard Gobs raise their pikes as the shamans agree to aid you. Whipping out your Spiky Board, you feel a bit of blood splatter on you as Ninetoes daubs a quick symbol on your forearm. Your pikegobs are treated to the same effect, and you know- deep down- that there's MAGIC on your side.

Maaaagiiiiic. What the hell can some puny dwarves, hiding behind their armored carriage, do against that?!

Also, the carriage itself is nearly indestructible. The dwarves don't seem to have been hit by the arrows, but they're hiding in cover. Whatever injuries they have are unbeknown to you.

The remaining human swordsmen are currently in a forward-facing shield wall, giving up all pretense of attack in favor of hiding in cover. The archers are doing similar, but instead ducking behind the wagons.

Humans are smart buggers. You know your own gobs would have risked getting shot or pelted to get to the assured safety of the carriage's flank.

>>8728487
Worgs into the swordsmen with good backup, less able troops swarm the archers (slinging, shooting as they go). We'll get the dwarves.

>>8728516
Rear if possible.

>>8728487
Our worg riders don't appear to have entered the combat yet. Have them flank the humans taking cover and hit them from behind. GIVE THEM THE SIGNAL!

>>8728528
Oh yeah, this definitely. Scrap the direct charge.

>>8728487
Focus fire on the archers, using slingobs to move around the carriage until they can shoot them, and borgobs ready to shoot any human that tries to lean out and take a shot.
Everyone else can hold the stalemate until we have range superiority.

>>8728487
Could we get a MSPaint representation of the clearing, our forces and the humans' location around the caravan?

>>8728463
This, and when we hear him chanting, tell our personal guard to cover their eyes. And do so ourself.

Most everyone else will get blinded, between that and the magic we'll make short work of the dwarves (if they aren't fried).

>>8728487
I wish we could just topple that carriage onto the dwarves, but we're most likely not strong enough, even with a lot of goblins. And I doubt that our shamans have enough juice left to summon a mighty earthen fist.

Hmm... or maybe we can have someone sneaky try to sneak under the carriage, and try to stab the dwarves in the foot with a black lotus poison dagger?

I'm in favour of the stabbing from underneath plan.

>>8728425
If you had something flammable, sure. The shamans could be used to this effect, but right now they're more focused on keeping you and your bodyguards enchanted against stray arrows or a bit of "Friendly fire".

>>8728481
>>8728463
>>8728450
With a cackle, you redirect the efforts of your shamans. Chanting together, all three point towards the wagon. With a triple bang, lightning leaps forth to strike the carriage. Once, twice, thrice!

There's a high-pitched scream from inside as the carriage threatens to tip over. Its massive armor plates have been dented, and are currently smoking furiously. The shield wall formation is temporarily broken, one of the bolts having been opportunely aimed right through the formation to the carriage. Arrows continue to sail as the swordsmen fall back from your onslaught, looking for a way out. The archers are now blindly firing arrows from behind cover.

You hear a few screams from your own side as lucky shots sink into the carpet of goblins crawling along the forest floor, but it's nothing to lament. At all.

The dwarfs get out of cover in time for the carriage to fully capsize. Arrows and rocks fly towards the two, but the massive heads of their axes serve as improvised shields. They're positively gargantuan blades, big enough for a bugbear to wield.

And then you realize just WHY the dwarves are there, in the middle of nowhere, carrying such imposing weapons. It's revealed in their appearance. Stripped down to their waists, torsos tattooed heavily and heads shaven, you realize what the dwarves are.

Slayers. Dwarf Slayers, no doubt en route to some "Greater" threat to find their suicidal doom. Ninetoes obviously chose to leave this detail out of his augury.

A sneaky move, right after your own heart.

>>8728653
Isn't it made of iron? How the fuck is that going to work?

>>8728682
Well, Ninetoes is getting killed.

Hmmm, shit.

send the worgs to flank the humans, the ones hiding being shields definitely, and the archers behind the wagons if possible. Send a sneaky gob to shank the dwarfs in the foot as per >>8728612. Upon completion of the stabbing, send a strong contingent of infantry gobs to ensure that all dwarves are dead. Continue to use archer and slinger gobs to maintain fire superiority.

>>8728591
Should any Goblin ever be enticed to render this battle for posteriority, it is my belief that this is about the best you could expect. Goblins aren't exactly know for their literacy or works of art.

>>8728682
>Slayers
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
UUUUUUU

WE ARE SO FUCKED.

>>Ninetoes obviously chose to leave this detail out of his augury.

Not quite as loyal as some of us were expecting, then.

We're boned.

>>8728712
Nah, just not trusted.

Fuck the dwarves. Slayers or not, we're taking one on.

>>8728725

Don't say I didn't warn you.

>>8728744
We need to be careful.

How many Slayers are there?

And no, we can't have him around. I do have an idea, though...

>>8728784

Idea's are nice, lets hear it.

>>8728682
We need a plan to weaken these guys, and the ranged objects idea isn't working.

We're magic'ed up, so are our guards. If we can focus fire on one, we should have a chance.

>>8728716
Right, so this won't work anymore...send the worgs to take out the archers. It's a small annoyance, but they are killing our gobs, and we need to maintain our numbers. Have the archers suppress the Slayers as much as possible, with that soon to be dead Ninetoes helping them out. Send our melee-gobs to attack the human spear wall from behind. Once the humans are taken out, focus all remaining forces on the Slayers. Poisoned weaponry is a priority in this case.

>>8728800
It's not important right now, it involves turning the shade summoning onto him. We'll need to talk to an apprentice before we can know if it's feasible.

>>8728784
>>can't keep him around

Eh, I dunno. Trying a slightly sneaky move doesn't change the fact that he's probably the most helpful goblin we have. Beat some sense into him later.

>>8728832
Need to know how many they are.

Let's not kill Ninetoes right away, in any case.

>>8728832
Is our axe poisoned too?

Because in that case, we and our guards engage until we scratch the Slayers, and then back off.

>>8728842
Well, my plan would involve keeping his body around, but not him.

>>8728850
Just the two I think.

"Their deaths are marked" indeed. Maybe we should have been quicker on the uptake.

>>8728850
Well, yeah, we need to keep him around for the rest of the battle. Use him to attack the Slayers with his magic, along with the rest of the shamans and ranged gobs.

>>8728612
>>8728599
>>8728567
>>8728553
>>8728528
>>8728524
>>8728516
The worgs break out in a wide flanking maneuver, their mounts howling as the Worgmasters bear down on the hiding archers. The lead Worgmaster in particular does a bit of daring bravado in chasing down one of the humans, hamstringing him with a stone-headed axe as he broke from the wagon's cover. The man falls with a scream, his comrades breaking into a full rout as they realize just what magnitude of foe they face.

Two human swordsmen down.

A lucky arrow catches one square in the back.

Make that three.

In the meantime, the archers launch stray arrows as they try to make a break for the row of rocks. A few of them pepper one of the pursuing worg raiders, causing the beast- and its rider- to tumble to the ground in a heap of dust and upturned earth.

>>8728682
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

We'll deal with EIGHTtoes after the battle. At least until the Shamans have finished training, we should probably leave him alive.

Well, there's two slayers, right? I think we're pretty much dead meat unless some kind of miracle happens, or we come up with a good plan.

>>8728907
HEAD COUNT PLEASE

OUR SIDE AND THEIRS

>>8728868
I would rather take out the lesser threats with our forces while keeping the Slayers suppressed. Then we can focus as many of our gobs on them at once.

>>8728926
Goblin archers circle around, shoot poisoned arrows in the back. We keep their attention in front but don't engage.

Right, we need to engage. Ourselves and the pike armed and armoured goblins are going for the slayers, along with whoever else counts as our 'Royal Guard'.

Send an apprentice shaman and some archers to harass the humans retreat and see what they can do for the Worg and rider, if anything.

>>8728907
Use worgs and other melee-gobs to take out human shield wall. Suppress Slayers with arrows, slings, and magic. Once the shield wall is down, attack the Slayers in melee, with any gob with a poisoned weapon up front.

>>8728718
>>8728591
That's probably the best you'll get. My MS paint skills are ABSOLUTE SHIT. But basically, you've flanked the convoy (Which is trapped by rocks ahead). Iron carriage is overturned, with the two dwarf slayers now out in the open, batting away the occasional rock or arrow with the flat of their blades.

The Slayers can swat arrows and rocks. Or at least hold up their axes to stop it. But they won't share such success against something heavier....

Have our Spear Gobs start making a circle around the slayers. Trying to seperate them if possible.

Our multitude of horde is given an attack order against one of them. "GRAB HIS LEGS AND BITE BITE BITE!" We want them to just tackle him and try to bear him down to the ground. Once his ability to dodge is impaired spear gobs can stick him, trying to avoid spearing goblin as well.
If we see a good opportunity let's throw our Dwarven Axe at one of them. Do it when their otherwise distracted.

>>8729045
DO NOT THROW DWARVEN AXE

>>8729062
I mean if we are really sure we can catch one of them in the face with it. Then we can wade in with our spiky stick and Iron Sword.

Or we can throw another goblin at him. I guess.

We just blasted their cart with lightning, couldn't be blast THEM with lightning?

>>8729045
I don't think it's a good idea to throw away our best weapon... also, I'm skeptical if any goblins will arrive at their feet not cleaved in half, to at grab them.

>>8729087
Why not throw a poisoned dagger?

>>8729107
Fine. Note to self. Get some throwing spears and other ways to throw bigger things. Arrows and rocks are not enough.

Engage with ourselves and pikemen.

>>8729102
Well I was hoping that plan would also fry them as it sounded like they were touching the metal. Oh well.

What if we challenged one of them to fight? And then didn't fight fair, but it was enough to seperate them?

>>8729146
HahahahahahahaNO.
Do not want to be bisected.

>>8729146
We may as well fight fair. I mean, if we're going to lose then call in support but take them on fairly until then. Again, bearslayer. The other goblins liked heroism.

>>8729146

Challenge one to one on one combat, then swarm him; I like it.

>>8729202
WE KILLED A BEAR SON.

we don't have the nets used for fishing with us. do we?

>>8729225
A PISSED OFF MOTHER BEAR IN HEAT

Well, if all else fails, we can still try to make the dwarves angry - maybe they'll slip on their defense. Like...
"HEY, YOU KNOW FUNNY JOKE - WHY DWARF WALK INTO BAR? BECAUSE BAR HANG REEEEALY LOW!"

>>8729225
SLAYERS, MAN.

FUCKING SLAYERS.

The most cruel thing we can do to these Dwarves is kill them in the most un-heroic, for them, manner possible.

Doing so will require not feeding them goblins until we loose them all. Or letting them lop off our head and then get swarmed.

Crush them, certainly. But do so on uneven ground.

>>8729291
Just call them out, one after the other. If it goes wrong our pike/spearmen can cluster in, if it goes right we look AWESOME. If they refuse the challenge tap the dwarf axe on the ground and rub the bear pelt.

You know... if we killed everyone else and then left, we could just stab the dwarves in the back when they're not looking.

>>8728784
Two.
>>8729062
>>8729045
>>8728931
>>8728832
Upon seeing a PAIR of Slayers, you find your battle tactics changing quite rapidly. Your reliance on Ninetoes has come to bite you on the back..."All Goblins are Savage" indeed!

Moving quickly, the worgmasters finish off the last of the archers. The last of the stones are lobbed at the dwarves, and the bowgobs are down to their last shafts. A few nicks have cut the dwarven berserkers, but even the potent mushroom toxins are only slowing them down. They advance at this point as you direct your eight speargobs to try and jab them apart.

You succeed in separating them, but at a cost. As flint spears jab at the barechested warriors, the first Slayer lashes out. His mighty axe cleaves one gob in twain, entrails spewing freely as the goblin falls with a scream. The other twirls his battleaxe like a baton, cutting off the tips from the spears of two speargobs.

But they're divided now, if at a cost. Still, (effectively) three speargobs isn't something you very much appreciate losing.

>>8728932
>>8728976
>>8728950
The shamans seem entirely spent after the overturning-the-carriage feat, but Ninetoes still manages to lob a small flaming mortar to harass the retreating swordsmen. It doesn't kill any of them, but you can tell they're singed and are sure to not return anytime soon.

Now the entire focus is upon the Slayers. With a solid forty gobs surviving of your original force of forty-seven, you've taken acceptable losses so far. But those damned Slayers could probably cave half of your entire army in half.

If you want to join the fray personally, roll to attack either the one to the left or the right.

>>8729374
wait till one of them is blocking a stone or arrow then throw one of the black lotus daggers at him

>>8729406
We're going to call them out in challenge.

>>8729415
And as one steps forward, we're going to backhand a poisoned dagger at the other one.

rolled 11 = 11

>>8729406
Take the one on the left, axing all the way.

rolled 18 = 18

>>8729436
Rolling for throw.

We could retreat at this point. Come back in 5 minutes when the battle rage of the Dwarves is subsiding. Give the poison a chance to work as well. Have our worgs run down the humans that routed so we kill them all.....

rolled 3 = 3

>>8729436
>>8729415
These.

remember the dager throw is first then the axe attack

>>8729458
FUCK YES. First idea in, good idea and good roll.

Then:
>>8729466

Poison will affect, rage will wear out, we'll finish them off in our own time.

>>8729498
Oh and don't call it a retreat. Go.

"Okay! Time to go take piss. Everyone into woods! Don't be slow or Dwarvies cut you. We come back soon."

A _Smart_ Goblin doesn't go toe to toe unless his opponent is weaker then himself. And there's two of them. That's just not fair.

My plan is to have Ninetoes possessed by one of the dead goblins from this fight. We'll ask him to summon it up quickly after he's weakened by summoning the bugbear spirit.

Do we know anything about this working? Could ask him about the risks of summoning for information?

>>8729546
One if the dagger throw works. We don't retreat, we go for the smackdown. See: WE KILLED A BEAR SON.

>>8729440
>>8729436
>>8729415
"Umgi shwine!" The dwarf to the left bristles, his impressive mustache seeming to twitch with his indignation. He spots your battleaxe, and clearly notices its dwarfish make.

That alone is enough to drive the Slayer forward, bisecting two of your speargobs in half before shattering the shin of the third with a well-placed boot. Shit.

Your pike gobs look terrified as the enraged dwarf hefts his axe in both hands. With a quick flick of the wrist, you send one of the poisoned daggers at his fellow Slayer's battle. Facing off against two speargobs, the Dwarf has little chance to parry the poisoned blade.

It sinks up to the hilt in his bicep, the dwarf staring at the blade with momentary contempt before attempting to yank it out. His trials yield little success, his movements becoming sluggish as the dwarf audibly wheezes over the sounds of battle. Backtracking, the poisoned Slayer is quickly put out of his misery as the archery ceases.

The rest of the goblin horde rises up, moving to bullrush the remaining Slayer.

The lone surviving Slayer simply growls at you, madness clear in his eyes. He is not afraid to die.

Sidenote: Is it fitting that Iron Man just starting BLASTING on my speakers as this post began?

rolled 6 = 6

>>8729572
Yep. We're the Bearslayer. Take him.

>>8729592
Oh lawd.

>>8729592
Hrmpf. We may need a new leader.

At least order a bunch of gobs to jump on his back first. If we abandon our cunning for fury now what kind of Glorious Leader are we?

>>8729592
Uhh... and by 'take him' I mean rush en masse with spears.

rolled 9 = 9

>>8729592
WE KILLED A BEAR SON.

can we throw/kick dirt into his eyes?

rolled 12 = 12

>>8729668
we can try...

>>8729668

NOW you're thinking like a gobbo!

rolled 9 = 9

THE ROLL INCREASES BY 3 EVERY TIME.

>>8729633
>>8729592
>>8729606
>>8729616
>>8729619
You contemplate, momentarily, entering a fair fight. A proper duel, like the dwarf would expect from an honorable foe. Something he'd be proud to die from.

Yeah. You just feel WAY too tempted to wreck that image to let this slip by. With a single bark of command, the two Royal Gobs circle around the Slayer. He spins his axe out, catching the worg Onebrow is riding square on the eyebrow. The top of its head is loped off as Clawfoot stabs at the Dwarf's flank, skewering him right on the ass.

Thankfully, Onebrow seems unharmed as his worg gives out from under him. The pike-gob simply rolls to a stop, trying to scramble back so he can properly use his long stabby weapon.

Your own battleaxe is swung clumsily, and the Slayer parries it offhandedly as he attempts to work out the pike currently stuck in a very tender part of his body.

rolled 17 = 17

>>8729708
Fuck it, let's throw the axe in his mush.

rolled 1 = 1

>>8729708
AIM FOR THE GROIN!

rolled 16 = 16

>>8729708
Let's rush the bastard. Knock him on the ground and finish him off.

>>8729727

And ruin the best bits? Just hack the fucker.

>>8729739
thank god, someone else rolled faster.

rolled 3 = 3

If the Axe and Knocking him down work and he's almost dead. Get over there and spiky stick him to death! Beat him in the hand holding the axe until he drops it first and then smash his face a bunch!

>>8729727
With an expert fling, you find yourself becoming more suited to simply CHUCKING weapons than actually WIELDING them. The battleaxe slams into the Slayer's face as Clawfoot's pike is finally worked out.

The extremely keen weapon actually goes so far as to peel off everything on the right-hand side of the dwarf's face. His ear, right cheek, and even his right eye are all taken off by the neigh-supernatural edge.

To his credit, the Dwarf simply whips around. His battleaxe barely skids off of your scale armor, ripping out several pieces of the overlapping metal plate before taking a chunk out of your worg mount's hindquarters.

rolled 20 = 20

>>8729845
Have we got anything else to throw?

>>8729861
FUCK I JUST WASTED A 20!

damn. we can poop out more gobs, but worgs...

rolled 4 = 4

>>8729874
Clearly what your post was meant to show is we throw anything on hand, rocks on the floor, at the Dwarf.

Right?

rolled 6 = 6

JUMP UP AND BITE HIS THROAT OUT

>>8729874
>>8729861
You do, actually. You have the spiky board in your hand...

I'm actually feeling pretty lenient. If you DO want to throw your only remaining weapon in a critical hit, just to see if a crit WOULD polish the Slayer off at this point, go for it.

If you'd rather keep it, and stay armed-yet-uncrit'd, that's fine too.

rolled 20 = 20

>>8729887
YES! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO SHOW!

>>8729874
Shhh. You really meant to say that post means we take the next best thing and lob it at the dwarf, didn't you? Surely no Goblin would admit an error.

rolled 2 = 2

>>8729904
Throw it. WE WILL THEN BEARHUG THE DWARF TO DEATH DUE TO OUR SPIKES.

>>8729910
oh boy

see if we can't have one of the gobs near the poisoned dagger pick it up and stab the dwarf in the ass, as we bravely distract him.

>>8729904
throw, then retrive our axe

rolled 6 = 6

>>8729910
Holy shit another crit.

>>8729910
>>8729861
FUCK I DID IT AGAIN

>>8729904
DOES A DOUBLE CRITICAL COUNT EXTRA?

>>8729910
>>8729861
BLESSED BE TORG! A DOUBLE TWENTY!

Shouldn't we have a second dagger on hand? IF so huck that.

If not huck a rock, or goblin.

>>8729968
your right, we stabed the gouar but that dosnt mean we lost the dagger

Be incredibly fucking badass. Throw the first dwarf's battleaxe.

WE ARE SLAYERSLAYER!!!

>>8729942
BLESSED BE HIS NAME.
AND ALSO US. GLORIOUS LEADER IS BEST LEADER.

>>8729925
You know, I...I mean, the sheer ODDS of you rolling TWO twenties...

You know what? Let's fookin' roll with it, because you're a MOTHERFUCKIN' GLORIOUS LEADER.

Winding back, you unleash your glorious Spiky Board to seek out the blood of the Dwarf. Apparently, you've got a bit more than even that in your powerful little body.

The board flies true, the spiked end of the planks aiming perfectly for the Dwarf Slayer's...incoming axe.

But, entering the fray once more, Onebrow ends up slashing the Dwarf's side. His axe swings about to try and cleave the Royal Guard gob in half for such an irritating blow.

Only the weapon never connects. Instead, the dwarf ends up completing his spin-around by collapsing on the ground. The Spiky Board, aimed so perfectly by your glorious hand, ends up impaling him spot-on the temple. His brain barely even has time to register dying before he collapses onto his own axe, the blade entering into his belly with a disgusting "Schllurp" sound!

Glorious victory! But...there's more screaming coming from within the metal carriage, as well as the sounds of panic from the wagons. Looking around for the first time since entering the barricaded "Campsite", you realize that the covered wagons actually have a few very lanky-looking humans in them.

Humans too stupid to run whilst they, err, didn't really have that much of a chance.

Stupid humans were delicious.

Sidenote: Going to take a quick bath at this point. I'll let you guys devise what you want to do with all this. The metal carriage isn't locked, and the voice inside appears to be that of a human female. It's also pretty freaking heavy, and you'd need all of your current worgs to even THINK of dragging it away.

Full details on what you loot, if you just decide to go FULL LOOTAN MODO, when I return.

>>8730043
You mentioned some humans running away on foot, send whatever worgs we have after them before we do anything else.

>>8730043
Pick up the daggers and the slayer axes, so we now have many things to throw.

I just want to loot really, I'll leave it up to someone more interested to explore the meaning of the captive.

We've got an army.

Of course it's full lootan mode.

We'll use the metal carriage to fortify our enclave.

>>8730043
Female human? HALF GOBLIN ABOMINATIONS, YAY.

>>8730043
loot everything. and i mean that literalty, take everything but the stones we threw. even the fire wood.

as for the surviving humans, take them captive. the one in the fancy armoured cart could proballly be ransomed.

if we decide to kill them anyway we can at least use them to carry the loot back

>>8730102
It might be difficult to cover the tracks of it, but sure.

>>8730111
Actually, i was thinking we do as follows -
First, we tie her up, then we keep her as a pet of sorts until we break her spirit. Then, we have a human slave who'll do what we want. We can use her for spying human settlements or as a human ambassador if the need arises.
Dunno what /tg/'ll think of this...

>>8730178
But... abominations against nature!

>>8730043
Yes! A human female! Now we can have her eat one of the mushrooms that make trolls a little *too* friendly, bind her to a tree, and if successfull raise the children as our personal half-troll guard - if she survives.

Nah, just kidding. I'm all for the 'loot everything and haul it to camp' approach. Clean up, and let grass grow over this whole thing, covering our tracks. Literally. With the help of our shamans, before a search party arrives.

We can probably use Goblins to transport the normal wagons. No eating the delicious contents, yet. We take EVERYTHING with us to camp, in multiple runs if we have to, then start the feast.

>>8730191
Part of the breaking of the spirit would include abominations against nature, I assure you.

>>8730131
this, with one exception. No ransom. While it would give us shinies, it would also bring unwanted attention to us. Use the captives to help carry back our loot, then kill them and loot the corpses. Use their meat for food, their bones for building material, and whatever else they have for whatever the hell it's good for.

>>8730178
This would also allow us to use any shinies we find on the corpses, in the caravan, etc.

>>8730196
>>troll friendly mushrooms + human woman
>>half troll personal guard
I can't believe I'm saying this, but that's fricking brilliant.

Also seconding making the humans carry stuff back. We'll take it all.

Loot everything. Leave no trace of this event what so ever. No arrows, no bodies, no wagons, no rocks left on the ground. Hell, collect all the blood stained soil, have Ninetoes do something with it.

We should even drag the cart down the road a ways, just to make it look like nothing happened at all.

The less people know about us this early on, the better.

>>8730205
Seconding no ransom. That's a bad idea. The humans are better at that sort of thing than we are. We'd get hosed.

Just kill everyone, and go FULL LOOTAN MODO

Trying to keep human captives is just going to be more trouble than it's worth. That's the sort of thing that attracts adventurers.

>>8730260
There's no way we'll be able to cover this up. They clearly had a destination, and the fact some ran too. Combines with the earlier wagon we totalled... we can expect visitors.

>>8730131
this+ try to hide the signs of battle

>>8730282
Yeah, just loot everything.

>>8729727
I vote full lootan. We also want to try and drag that wagon back with us. We should send some scouts to pick off the swordsmen with more poisoned arrows.

>>8730094
This is a priority. We can't have anyone sending warning.

>>8730284
Im pretty certain we sent worgs after those who fled. If not, I suggest we do so. Also, yes, we may have visitors, but not for a while. After all, the woods are full of dangerous animals, not just us lowly gobbos. Yes, it was a heavily armed caravan, but if some goblins could take it out, so could a much more powerful creature.

tl;dr we aren't the only dangerous thing in the woods.

>>8730328
Yes, but the less people clue onto us the better.

Adventurers tend to screw everything up.

>>8730328
Sending worgs =/= automatically catch the prisoners.

After this, we should try and recruit the bugbears, punish Ninetoes (kill him when we're done with him or at least interrogate and beat him) then move camp. Retaliatory parties will go after the Black Lotus, and we can keep scouts in the forest and swoop in after they take their revenge on the wrong clan.

so, the general idea is take absolutely everything back to the base. then try to hide all the signs of battle.

could the humans be used as slaves ?

Alright. Spread out our trained goblins to search for the survivors, the untrained goblins stick around to go loot everything.

If we can possibly do anything with the carriage, we should. Even if we just break it down for scrap here and now, it's too much value to let go to waste.

"Every once in a while, when they aren't getting incinerated in lava, crushed under rock slides, or devoured by dragons, goblins experience moments of unmitigated glory in battle."

>>8730367
Kill? NOOOOOO. Make it clear to him next time he leaves an important detail like that out you'll drag him down with him.

I'm of the opinion that the best use for the humans is as corpses.

Seriously, keeping them around will mean trouble. Big trouble.

>>8730395
I want to have him possessed by a spirit he summons up - one of the goblins who died today. This keeps our shaman, but gets rid of Ninetoes. Need to check the viability of this, though.

>>8730403
lets wait till we know more about them before we do anything permanent

>>8730425

It's Ninetoes' knowledge that's valuable, and possessing him isn't surefire. He'll be disposable eventually, but not now.

The slayer axes are obvious gifts for the bugbears--when they prove their loyalty. Don't offer it as a reason to join, offer it as an unexpected bonus for joining.

>>8730452
I just don't want him able to act anymore. He said he could make spirits do things - maybe we could make his spirit do things? Could we bind him into a staff or axe? That way we get knowledge without the goblin treachery.

Also yeah, we still need him for the Bugbears as of yet.

>>8730515
We can wait until our other shaman are more skilled, then make them kill him and bind him to some sort of totem, for our use. He himself said that the bound entity would have to follow our orders.

Also, voting full lootan here, it will definitively be a while until the town gets suspicious, like a few days or so. During that time we should be able to loot everything, clean up the battle site and then have the shamans regrow the grass, and clear our tracks.

>>8730561
We don't know how skilled the other shamans are yet. We should know that IC, though, maybe Book Keeper can tell us.

>>8730367
true, but it's better than just letting them get away.

Not sure if autosaging, so...

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I say we give Ninetoes a sound thrashing in our cave for trying to cross us. We tell him that he gets a second chance with all of his prior assistance taken into consideration, but the next time he thinks of betraying us, he dies painfully.

rolled 6 = 6

>>8730719
Fuck that. We eat him

>>8730742
Eat his legs.

>>8730742
And lose our most knowledgeable and magic-capable goblin?

Not to mention, BEFORE we've met with the bugbears? Just who is going to summon the shade if we kill him?

>>8730770
Eat his heart

>>8730774
We need for the bugbear, that at least is assured. ASAP, I want to bind his soul into a staff or our own axe though.

>>8730782
drink his blood.

>>8730804
>>8730782
>>8730770
>>8730742
Consume his samefag.

Let's keep Ninetoes around. The danger you know is better than the danger you don't. Treat him more cautiously, yes. Kill him? Hell no.

At least, hell no until we have a suitable replacement, which we do not.

>>8730797
Sure, after that it's acceptable.

A goblin bound into a dwarven axe that helped kill a dwarf. Delicious irony.

>>8730822
Again, we don't KNOW the abilities of our two less senior shamans. Book Keeper can fill us in.

>>8730822
Yeah, we should start making sure his two shaman trainees are learning everything we would need from him. They may have a promotion soon, after all. And we don't like shamans who can't perform.

>>8730822
This Goblin has it right.

Fact is he's a shaman. He shouldn't want to lead. See if he's only chief shaman only other shamans will want his job. If he is Chief Shaman and leader. All the goblins will want his job.
However, if he keeps assisting us he gets all sorts of wonderful things. Plenty of goblins to put between us and danger, due to the growing stability of our food stores. More books and Magic as we capture them. Wimmen. Glory!
Which is what we tell him in private after smacking him around a bit for not mentioning they where slayers. What's he trying to pull?

Don't kill. Convince he's better off assisting us then getting us killed. Not many leaders are as glorious and willing to not pike him as us.

Speaking of. Eat dwarf flesh off one skull turn it into a mug when able. Other Dwarf head should not be eaten, put on a pike, and held up as a standard when we go visit bugbear or blacklotus goblins.

>Instead, you were treated to a quiet affair, the shaman grumbling to himself for a few moments before looking back to you. "The...dwarfs. Yes. Travelers. Adventurers. They are skilled, but their death is written. In blood."

He gives a short pause before exhaling, shaking his head vigorously. A few flecks of spittle hit the ground in the former bear cave, that now serves as your private den.

"And...wealth? Lots to take. Too much. Women. Drink. Weapons. Coin. So much deliciousness, too, Leaderrrrr."


he did say they were powerful, and he didn't lie to us. i don't think hes actually done anything treacherous yet

>>8730926
This is unreasonable. He deliberately mislead us, probably to try and seize power. It doesn't matter if he SHOULDN'T want power, he DOES. Better the devil you know? It's a betrayal, and we'll only encourage further sedition if we allow him to keep plotting. If we were in some way wrong or flawed I might support you, but this was entirely unreasonable. By our actions we do not encourage rebellion, there is no reasonable rebellion our tribe can take against us.

Bind him into our axe as soon as we can.

>>8730987
As anon points out
>>8730970
It really isn't all that bad. We are just getting paranoid. Perhaps Ninetoes visions are not as clear and easy to understand as we suspect.

Considering MAGIC it's totally understandable that perhaps he did not know or is just enigmatic. In which case rather then betrayal he's just didn't do a good enough job. We knew they where adventurers and strong. Which they where. We just didn't know they where slayers.

I repeat my suggestion we have a nice talk with ninetoes. Better to have him as a loyal ally then constantly cycle new shamans as we kill off the old ones.

visions and the like are almost always vauge

rolled 7 = 7

Book Keeper phrased it somewhat like a betrayal above. I assumed we knew that it was.

>>8731084
Nope. We are just a bit paranoid. Like all good Goblin Leaders. Only more paranoid, and "good" due to being Glorious Leader.

rolled 3 = 3

>>8731095
And goblins are vicious.

Kill Ninetoes. Use his bones as fetishes to make us stronger.

FEAST ON HIS HEART with our strongest child.

>>8731084
>>8731114
Stop rolling when we don't need to, that's what got us screwed over in another quest I played in.

>>8731193
Suck my dick

rolled 11 = 11

>>8731193
It stays in your email field, bro. That's all. Rolling was indicates to only count in combat two threads ago.

>>8731211
If you clear out the email field and post it goes away.

>>8731256
Why aren't you sucking my dick yet?

rolled 9 = 9

>>8731256
No shit, really? Because it's not why I was explaining why it was in that post or anything. Wow, you can remove things from your email field. My mind is just so fucking blown right now.

>>8731205
I have no reason to fight with you, bro.

>>8731211
Just post once without it. Whatever you had in your email field after your last post sticks around.

Don't kill ninetoes, for now. He's very valuable. I think that people are overreacting, ninetoes actually did an excellent job and we should reward him for it, we'll probably get something nice from the caravan for him.

>>8731268
>>8731269
OR you could just not be rampant douchewagons.

>>8731256 is not
>>8731193 or >>8731280

Do not kill Ninetoes. We still might need him.

>>8731293

Use logic bros. We didn't become the glorious leader without having some smarts!

If he did try to betray us, reward him for being sneaky and cunning.

rolled 16 = 16

>>8731326
>If he did try to betray us, reward him for being sneaky and cunning.

That seems like a bad idea, somehow...

Anyway yeah, we did overreact. I'd still like to know about binding spirits to items though. Could come in handy.

>>8731211
>>8731269

Except that GMs will take roll results even if they don't ask for them, and that ends up with us getting screwed over.

Who pissed in your cornflakes today?

rolled 1 = 1

>>8731345
Book Keeper specifically said that the only rolls that counted were in combat. Everything else is decided by consensus, or rule of cool.

No one. I was just amused by the idea that someone could not know how to remove things from the email field.

I hope Book keeper gets back soon so all the faggots arguing will go back to making clever plans.

>>8730094
You quickly reroute the remaining worg riders hot on the tracks of the two fleeing human infantrymen to survive. You have no doubt they'll be dead by nightfall.

Sidenote: I've read the posts, but goddamn there's so many I'm just better off replying to them all in one big serving than individually tabbing. So!

You and the surviving thirty-seven gobs run buck wild throughout the caravan. The carriage door is pried open by one of your fish-herders, looking to-

Get the top half of his skull annihilated. There's a loud flash of noise as everything above the goblinoid's jaw vanishes in a puff of red mist. Inside, a woman is visible, a wrist-mounted crossbow of curious design mounted on her forearm. There's several fancy-looking doodads on it, but they do her little good as two axegobs swarm the interior of the well-appointed carriage. They don't exactly dismember her, but a few good punches and some battery makes sure the frail little thing can't shoot any more

The dead gob is tossed into the back of one of the wagons, where the dozen-or-so captives are seen. They're various levels of "unfit", ranging from pasty-faced young boys no older than five years old to a grotesquely overweight man dressed in what you recognize as a human chef's attire. You mostly recognize this fact thanks to your own close encounter to being served as the main dish for a particularly sick chef's dinner.

The worg riders return, successful, a few hours into the looting spree. Chests have been hauled out of the wagons, barrels rolled into the open, and a number of thickly-wrapped bundles stored in some slick hide. The Worgmasters are bearing the remains of the two escapee humans, already wearing their chainmail and bearing their shields-slash-longswords.

Some of the chests are locked with a built-in mechanism, but the barrels and bundles are simple enough to pry open. What they reveal makes your mouth water in glee. Obviously this caravan was meant to head to some distant war front.

There's a whole slew of weapons in the wrapped bundles. The barrels contain more long-term rations, like oatmeal, flour, and ale. The weaponry, in total, takes you a while to count between lip-licking sessions. But you manage.

-6 Shortbows (With just as many sealed quivers of 30 arrows each)
-10 iron pikes
-6 iron maces with notches worked into the heads
-20 iron shortswords
-5 steel-tipped longspears
-2 solid steel greatswords of fine craftsmanship. Almost dwarven, but not quite.

There are currently six locked chests looted from the carriage's interior, all of them having been lashed down to the seats around the woman. There are also twelve barrels of supplies in total. Six kegs of ale, four barrels of oatmeal, and two of flour. Not a varied selection as far as supplies went, but it was enough to supply...

A small army.

Ninetoes and the other shamans are currently recuperating over the remains of a dead soldier, having plucked out the arrows and begun to tear strips of flesh off to regain their strength. Onebrow, still dismounted, brings you your dagger and Spiky Board.

Sidenote: GODDAMN THIS POST WAS LONG. Will need to work on the tl;dr for any upcoming battles.

Force the humans to carry EVERYTHING back to our camp.

Including the carriage.

We'll use the carriage to improve our cave lair.

Alright, kill her, take the doodad. That's going to be another good signing bonus, for a Black Lotus goblin lieutenant, whose loyalty we're particularly sure of. It's not really a weapon that goes well with anyone we've got.

Hm. From now on, all of my explanations for diplomacy will be couched in sports terms.

"And with the 13th pick in the Settler Quest draft, the Bear Clan picks... The Bugbear Tribe, OT (Offensive Tank), Ancestorworship State."

Look, I brought in some more loot from a drawfag thread.

>>8731496
>goes with anyone we've got

We're going to be using it.

I don't really give a fuck about the Black Lotus. We know how to make their poison. See:>>8730367
For my plan.

take everything includeing our captives back to the base. dont kill captives untill we know more about them

>>8731496
>>8731483
You AXE her for her fine piece of technology, clipping it onto your loincloth's waistband as you leave her corpse for the gobs to rip into fresh Human meat. The other Humans get the message, and quickly find themselves overly eager to transport the plunderings of your raid back to the village. In particular, you convince them to pull the ironclad carriage back onto its wheels.

And then make them pull it through the woodland by hand. Stupid schmucks. But strong, seeing as they're twice as big as the av'rage Gob. Or three times as big, in the case of the chef.

>>8731533

Eh, I'm of the "Waste no potential resource" school of thought. We've got more to gain by assimilating the Black Lotus clan than by killing them.

But you're right, taking the doodad for ourselves isn't a bad idea. Only problem is we can't throw it at anybody.

>>8731603
Not really. We grow so rapidly assimilating another clan seems pointless, and more of a risk than a boon.

>>8731496
>>8731594
WHOA WHOA WHOA, several of us decided earlier that we wanted her alive, and one vote up and kills her before we can object?

damnit, we just killed the most useful human there.

>>8731594

We've got the cart.

We HAVE to figure some way to use this to infiltrate the human village.

"Hey guys, there's an armored cart coming through! OH GOD ITS FULL OF GOBLINS"

>>8731627
This!

Keep prisoners alive.

>>8731642

How is she most useful? I can't think of anything we could do with her that wouldn't be a liability.

>>8731627
yes. we did.

>>8731664
>>"Waste no potential resource"

REALLY NOW? We had plans for her that involved either infiltration schemes down the road, or a personal bodyguard (either way, abominations).

Also, I wanted to make her tell us about the cool bow.

>>8731627
'looting' was implied to be killing, and there's always a delay in posting. Book Keeper is going off earlier posts that didn't care.

>>8731664
she was almost certantly nobility or a rich merchant. possibly a relativ of a general. shes the only one who knew how the cross bow thing worked and she could probaly tell us whats in and how to open the locked chest

>>8731523
Nice!

>>8731627
SWEET! Art! Moaaar! Looks awesome, amigo.

>>8731537
Loading the captives up, you begin the arduous trek of dragging everything back to camp. Or rather, your MINIONS do the arduous work. Even then, they're aided by the freshly-cowed humans, which have the power of TWO GOBS into one! Well, some of them, anyways.

>>8731523
...Oh buggery. Uhh, let's retcon that a wee bit. Instead of axing her with the BUSINESS end, I, err, meant the very FRIENDLY side of the axe. And by "leaving her for gob meat" I mean "Leaving her to RECEIVE gob meat".

Yeah. That works. Probably a good point to stop here, on an utterly unrelated side-note.

>>8731734
>Leaving her to RECEIVE gob meat

Ick. Do not want.

>>8731714
and answer just about any question we had about the local humans and major enemys we could face. and we cold probaly randsom her for a mid sized fortune

>>8731734
Maybe some volun-told gob's meat for abomination spies. Or that "troll friendly" shroom to get some damned hard to kill muscle on our team.

>>8731699

How do you intend to convince her to go along with an infiltration scheme? She's got some serious fight in her. We can get a bit of info from her, but after that she's better off dead. We can find safer humans to get abominations from, and ransom seems like a good way to get ourselves wiped out.

Remember, for whatever reason, she was headed into a warzone. Granted, so was the chef, but she's got spirit.

>>8731734
so, another thread tomarrow at 4 ?

>>8731782
As in, we get abominations in 4.5 months who are half gob, half human, and can infiltrate for us. Some poor schmuck will have to do the "honors." Ugh.

Or we feed her the troll friendly mushroom and get a half-troll on our team. Maybe. If we fail, oh well.

>>8731782
shes a bad choice for infiltration. no argument there. but we could easily torture info out of her. also if we dont ransom her we could always sell her to someone who would like her as a hostage. like who ever she was going to war against

>>8731785
Actually, it'll probably be on Thursday. I've got some work I need to get done by then, and I'd rather not goof off TOO much with /tg/.

Any questions you have for tonight are welcome, though. Ry'leh.

Ok people, honestly if you think we want any humans in or around our camp you are stupid and should think this through. If a human escapes, they will alert the town and we will soon have an army bearing down on our women and children, effectively wiping us out.

It doesn't matter whether they are useful or not, we kill all humans and use them for food. No breeding with trolls, even if that is kind of clever. It will take at least 9 months for that to payoff, and until that happens we will have to take care of the mother, but she will probably just die from isolation and disease.

tl;dr: KILL ALL HUMANS ON SIGHT. NO SLAVES, NO PRISONERS.

>>8731827
That is... a really long-term plan. Anything with human blood takes a really long time to grow up.

But whatever, I guess. At least it might be amusing, and we're not short on food right now so we don't really need to kill the human women instead of trying to use them to breed up something more useful.

>>8731862
But they'll stay fresh longer when they're alive! We can always hack off their feet so they can't escape.

>>8731862
I learned from the series Roots that if you cut off the front half of someone's foot, it's almost impossible for them to run away, but they stay useful for most work.

We don't know if it would take 9 months, either. We're goblins, it can't hurt to try.

But any human who seems more liability than proper slave is getting eaten, yeah.

>>8731855
Information on binding a spirit or shade into an item? Information on our dwarven axe (I'm assuming, having used it, something might have shown itself)?

Information on the best fighters in the clan? Likewise, on the apprentice shamans?

They can still crawl back to town. I just don't want things to get messy. We're best off just killing them now, rather make things get all complicated with prisoners and slaves.

>>8731909
That's a long way to crawl before getting noticed and caught.

Before they got that opportunity it's likely we'd have pillaged the town already.

>>8731880

Also, the most we will get is two half-goblins, who will likely be stillborn or just completely deformed. Do we really want to waste 4.5 - 9 months of food on a something that will likely never give us any return?

>>8731897
Ninetoes says that it's quite possible to bind someone's spirit into an item. You'd need blood and someone skilled at magic. Or, at least, more skilled at magic than the one he's trying to imprison. Ninetoes also mentions, at length, the possibility of being able to use multiple souls to conjure up "Something...neat. Flashy. Interesting. Sparklyyyyyy."

As for the axe, it's of very high Dwarven make. Possibly magical, but Ninetoes isn't sure. At the very least, it's sharp enough to split a hair longways.

The best fighters are currently Onebrow and Clawfoot, your personal bodyguards. The apprentices are fairly talented according to Ninetoes, but they "still need lots and lots of trainingsss."

>>8731862
this will happen anyway once we attack the village and we plan on doing that in like a week or two. and considering how long it would take for them to find an army, convince them they(the escaped slave) were worth listening to, make the perperations, and then wander around trying to find us. it wouldnt make much difference. also if the girl is some sort of princess we can use her as a hostage.

>>8731971
I wish we knew how to boost magic potential or explore non-shamanistic kinds of magic. Sounds useful.

>>8731971
>>Sparklyyyyy

Ooooooh. Guess what we just got a bunch of? Humans. Soooooouls.

>>8731983

Alright. You are somehow intimating that holding a princess for ransom would get us anything but wiped out by an army. Seriously, she's good for some info, but that's it.

>>8732024
Info and breeding experiments! Ninetoes can cast some magic to speed the process, and if it fails, oh well, we're not suffering.

>>8732037

We can use her for breeding, but there's no reason that she'd be better for it than someone we could capture from a village.

She's just got too much fight in her.

>>8732037

I feel like we'd be better off capturing an actual troll by focusing our efforts on breeding goblins and setting up a good infrastructure than by doing crazy breeding experiments. We don't even know how long a troll takes to mature (probably a hell of a long time).

>>8732077
all we know about her is that when we tried to kill her she tried to kill us back. that just proves shes not an idiot

>>8732077
This.

We should just rape and pillage this one and give her soul (and all the others) to Ninetoes to play with. If you want to play silly HOW IS GOB BABBY FORMED games, get a stupid and scared town slut or farm girl.

>>8732121

Which, for our purposes, is a bad thing. Cycle her through the processor as quickly as possible.

Hell, if we just want info, we could just kill her know and save her soul for questions later. Unless she's a mage of some sort, which I doubt, given her response.

>>8732086
Well we could feed her the troll and try to get one attracted to the camp that way. Although they might be too dumb to recruit. A half troll should be smart enough, and if we capture the troll in a pit we can give it a shot with all the town women as well.

HALF TROLL PERSONAL BODYGUARDS, GO

>>8732121
everything we have encountered so far has done that...

To me, it boils down to the fact that there's no long-term position for which she is better qualified than anyone else we could get, and she brings a lot of dangers into play. Outside of info, there's just no profit.

But we should get as much info as possible. Even seemingly useless stuff, like the state of the world as a whole.

>>8732162

EXCEPT IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE SEVERAL YEARS

>>8732008
>>8732002
Ninetoes brings up that, during his more experimental days (With test tubes and the like), he dabbled in a bit of the more non-shamanistic parts of magic. The book he found with the Elven caravan has expanded his knowledge a bit, and he figures that- in exchange for every ten souls you can provide- he can boost his magical abilities that much.

That, or produce a golem-like fetish made from various twigs, mud, and other materials he'd rather not go into details on.

We should be careful about boosting Ninetoes (though it makes an excellen carrot). But it seems like a good idea from time to time.

Can we get better golems with more souls?

>>8732233
Not sure we want to let him 'A GOD AM I' on us. What about giving the Glorious Leader magical abilities?

>>8732194
if we actuly knew something about her we would know if there was a reason to keep her around

>>8732263
>>8732267
Actually, this could prove to be a reward for him, to keep him loyal and in line.

>>8732267
>>8732263
He's not too sure on giving YOU magical abilities, since shamanism is still a pretty "natural" art to get. He does, however, think that he could create beefier golems if he was given better materials and more souls. There is, however, a limit. More souls means more unstable golems.

Though if you want something to go Allah Ackgob on the enemy, the sky's the limit.

>>8732267
YES. SHINY MAGIC FOR US.

>>8731862
Seconded, the risk is too high as compared to the rewards.

>>Allah Ackgob

HAHAHAHA

>>8732307
Alright. I guess we'll give him a power boost once and then leave it at that until we really need an increase in power. The rest of the souls can go on the golems, or one increase to the apprentices.

Alright, I'll leave the thread open for any comments/praise/complaints/criticism. I, in the meantime, am going to catch some shuteye. FOR THURSDAY, THE GOBLINING SHALL BEGIN.

And don't be afraid to throw up more ideas, guys. Srsly.

i support the "people are more usefull than corpses" idea

>>8732390

People are more dangerous than corpses, and our current gains would be marginal at best.

And there's just so much that we can do with corpses!

>>8732374
Glad that you're the sort who will see what else got posted on the thread after you left (thanks to the archive's auto-updates).

>>8732539
then why dont we slaughter the bugbears and blacklotus gobs?

>>8732600
Bugbears are dumb, useful muscle.

Black Lotus, they're cowards, I wouldn't mind getting rid of all but the stealthiest for adding as our scouts.

>>8732600
Gee, I dunno.

>>8732641
so, possibly usefull and a waste of time or effort to kill them. why can this not apply to the humans we captured.

>>8732693
Just no clue at all.

>>8732704
Because they are humans, not goblinoids. Simple as.

>>8732693
>>8732705
and your argument is that the humans are a threat and should be killed. i am saying that the same applies to the bug bears

>>8732734
whats the differance?

>>8732759
Stop throwing around the strawman argument.

The bugbears and Black Lotus goblins are much more inclined to support us, thus providing much more reward for much less risk.

>>8732793
yes, but keeping the human slaves at least long enough to see if there usefull is less dangerous and more productive than trying to gain control of the BL and the BB.

>>8732876
I don't care one way or the other way about killing the slaves. I think making a golem or empowering our shaman is a better bet.

I didn't join in this argument because of that, I joined on because you were presenting a stupid and unfair parallel.

>>8732539
said "People are more dangerous than corpses"
as a reason for why the slaves and probaly every other human we encounter shoud be killed.

>>8732600
i try to point out that with that argumrnt we should be killing all of the BL and BB as at the moment they are a greater threat to us than the humans

so,how is this wrong and what was the "stupid and unfair parallel"" strawman argument"?

>>8733026
>people
First off, PEOPLE.

Even if we assume 'people' refers to a wide variety of species, it's clear that the context of the presented argument lies with the prisoners we have just abducted, and hence are subject to many conditions different from those of the Bugbear and Black Lotus tribes.

For you create a similarity between the vastly different situations is for you to 'create a straw man'. I have no interest in pursuing this further, but it is established that the situations are NOT the same.

>>8733026

Because the Bugbears and BL provide long-term usefulness, and exist without outside support lines. They will be willing to join us, because they're similar to us.

Humans won't be inclined to do that. They'll be more inclined to call in their brethren to beat the shit out of us, and they also don't have long-term usefulness to us.

Humans see us as trash. Bugbears and other goblins at least see us as worth dealing with.

>>8733026

Please stop being a stupid person. Thanks.

We should really be trying to figure out good uses for all the new supplies we just captured, instead of arguing about whether to enslave, experiment, or eat the humans. Alliteration unintended.