OH MAN I AM SO PUMPED.

Actually, let's go reason with the old man. Certainly we can assist the idiot who stole your rightful place, right? At least make certain he doesn't fuck up?

Let's go reason with him. Defying him is balls-to-the-wall stupid.

Also, be prepared. Shit's about to get real.

WaitingforOP.png

>>8651071

"Look. Da-" you begin but catch yourself "... father," you don't want to come off as informal. There's a time and a place for being Kentaro Tohsaka's daughter and this is not it.

"Can't I just assist that moron Tobe? There's no way he can last this long in the Holy Grail War! His skills as a magus aren't nearly up to snuff!"

Your father nods "Indeed. I even had to surrender my cherished belt to him. Simply to give him some hope that it would be enough of a boost."

"Then let me help! I can easily-"

"ABSOLUTELY NOT! Janya. We've discussed this," he explains "the Holy Grail war... it's not a simple skirmish. Janya you've spent your whole life living in this fantasy tale. Believing that the Holy Grail war was simply a clash of great and powerful heroes... but it is much more than that. It is a battle to the death. A competition of not simply power but strategy. Half the time servants are killed because their masters are taken out first! It is a dangerous and terrifying war."

You look at him with a concerned expression... could he be worried about you? Now that you recall. He DID compete in the last Holy-Grail War. Maybe he knows something you don't?

How much do we know ourselves about the Holy Grail War? Once we know that, we can properly form our questions.

>>8651212
Murmur something and go into our room. We'll summon a servant on our own.

>>8651212
Even so... Maybe he's worried about you, but aren't you worried for the idiot? I mean, who will you insult and berate if he dies?

>>8651286
>Murmur

I hate that word so much after the Mirror Moon translation used it 500 times and not once any of its synonyms.

>>8651269

You understand the general basics.

A group of magus summon heroes from across time, assign them to a general class and have them work to destroy/oppose other servants and/or masters.

The last Holy Grail War was about 50 years ago. Although the actual specs behind that seemed to be rather... unusual. All that was known for sure was that the tallest skyscraper in Skyline city was completely leveled overnight on the final day of that particular war.

The news reports said it was terrorism. But considering what you knew you just assumed it was a battle between servants. Even then the demolition of an entire skyscraper seems much...

>>8651343
We need our own servant. We can manipulate Tobe pretty easily. With the power of two servants victory should be easy.

>>8651378
After all, Tobe wants in your pants so much it hurts.

Let us summon our own servant. But... which one?

Lets just head back to our room and rethink the situation. I assume we're gonna try and summon our own servant? Well lets see what kind of magical artifacts are lying around the house we can use as a catalyst.

>>8651477
Saber of course.

>>8651286
>>8651378

Reluctantly you nod your head and accept your father's wishes... superficially at least.

You proceed to move to out of his room and make your way to your own bedroom. FINE! If he doesn't want you to compete then it looks like you'll have to do things on your own!

Only question is... what servant could you summon?

Maybe it'd be best to just risk it and go with a straight up summoning? You're a pretty powerful and experienced magus.

>>8651507
There is a lot of artifacts in the mansion. We could snatch something pretty easily. Let's look for something suitable.

>>8651477
I vote for either Caster or Saber.

>>8651507
ROLL OF THE DICE, BABY

WE'RE SO HOT WE MAKE OUR OWN LUCK!

>>8651523
We're already a powerful magus. Saber would be better.

Damnit, what was that dude who split an anvil with his sword testing it?

If we're going Saber, any reason not to go all out and aim for Miyamoto Musashi?

>>8651576
He's a crook. A famous crook but still crook.

Miyamoto Musashi (宮本 武蔵?) (c. 1584–June 13 (Japanese calendar: May 19), 1645), also known as Shinmen Takezō, Miyamoto Bennosuke, or by his Buddhist name Niten Dōraku[1], was a Japanese swordsman and samurai famed for his duels and distinctive style. Musashi, as he was often simply known, became renowned through stories of his excellent swordsmanship in numerous duels, even from a very young age. He was the founder of the Hyōhō Niten Ichi-ryū or Niten-ryū style of swordsmanship and the author of The Book of Five Rings (五輪書 Go Rin No Sho?), a book on strategy, tactics, and philosophy that is still studied today.


Hurm.

>>8651619
He used cheap tactics and underhanded bluffs and tricks.

>>8651576
>>8651605
>>8651619
>>8651655

You think it over.

Miyamoto Musashi does seem like a shoe-in for Saber class. Being Japan's most famous swordsman alive would definitely qualify.

There's something off however. If you do summon him, you doubt he will be as noble as many other servants. Summoning him could have some serious drawbacks if he decides to go rogue.

Then again, his power would definitely be a handy trait.

>>8651507
What are the most awesome artifacts in the mansion?

How about either Huiguang or Sengchou, the founders of Shaolin Kung Fu?

>>8651704

They would most likely be kept in Father's basement behind his mage-sealed door. It wouldn't be IMPOSSIBLE for you to break in. But then, it may clue him in that you're attempting to participate in the Holy Grail War anyway.

How about Jing Ke?

Swordsman who attempted to assassinate the emperor of china. Had a movie based on him staring Jet Li.

>>8651758
What kind of artifact are there?

Find an anvil.

Split it in half.

Use to summon.

Recieve badass.
He was also supposed to be pretty attractive too.

>>8651758
That's troublesome. How about we do something stupid and summon without a focus?

>>8651791

A lot of things. Due to your father's supreme wealth he has collected cultural artifacts from around the world. The only other place that could compete with them would be the museum. But as that was broken into a few days ago, you doubt they're gonna let anything else get stolen.

Guan Yu. GUAN YU.

>>8651696
ask what artifacts are available

>>8651824
We can't possibly be that stupid...can we?

>>8651834
Ok. Let's fucking do it and hope we won't botch the roll. Wait until the middle of the night and try to break into the basement.

>>8651741
>>8651790
>>8651815
>>8651824
>>8651835

OK since we have a lot of random numbers going around. Roll a d20, person with the highest (or the first person to roll a 20) and puts his suggestion down decides what servant we try and summon.

>>8651834
ask father for intel; what does he know about the other participants? (so we can get in-character knowledge of the other two characters we've been along with intel on what's been summoned by them and whoever else is participating)

rolled 7 = 7

Rollan for Jing Ke

Volg related question:

Volg is a Reinforcement specialist.

We've seen Reinforcement magic used to enhance eyesight, strengthen inanimate objects, and improve physical attributes.

Can we use Reinforcement magic on Vlaud's Physical stats? How much can we improve a stat?

Because even if its only one rank, Vampire Vlaud gets STR C, AGI A+ End B, and Dutiful King Vlaud gets STR B, AGI A++ and END A, making Dutiful King Vlaud more dangerous than Arturia in raw stats.

rolled 11 = 11

>>8651868
Don't summon without a focus. Break into the basement for now.

If we're worried about Musashi not being a gentleman...
How about the Paladin Roland? Mainly because he wields Durandal, which is unbreakable and ridiculously holy.

rolled 15 = 15

rolling for... wild card: dm decides

>>8651910
Good one. We can go with him. But we still need a focus.

>>8651902

Volg's reinforcement magic was trained specifically to give him enhanced strength and endurance against bear fighting. He could theoretically empower Vlaud but it would leave him weakened and he couldn't raise ALL of his stats by 1 rank. Maybe 1 or 2.

>>8651910

Roll a d20 if you want your suggestion chosen.

How do I roll?

Roll d20

Odysseus please!

>>8651934
Still, not terrible, Dutiful King could still hit STR B, AGI A++ and END B, which is hella nice.

rolled 10 = 10

I vote to try for a Caster, since you can never have too much magic.

rolled 13, 5 = 18

roland and odysseus

rolled 11 = 11

Caster, Moses

>>8651994
Thanks, though curses! Odysseus = MASTERMIND TIER.

Hell, serious, you could summon Odysseus as an Archer. He would have maxed out Independant Action. He could win the Grail War by himself.

Miyamoto and Odysseus confirmed for CHEAT LIKE BASTARDS TIER.

I'm for Roland too. But it would be nice if we had a focus.

rolled 6 = 6

>>8651948
I'll try... Rolling for waiting waiting until we see what resources we have.

>>8651994

ALRIGHT! Paladin Roland it will be!

Luckily. Your father happens to have an artifact that can do the trick. A broken sword that was once used by the nephew of Charlemagne.

Now... how do you go about getting it?

Alright, Odysseus, by himself.

rolled 54 = 54

Lu Bu as a Berserker.

rolled 41 = 41

>>8652092
Stealthily.

Okay, so we're going to summon Odysseus.

Let's hope he has his bow with him.

>>8652092
Durandal? Well this might be interesting. We could either end up summoning Roland or Hector of Troy, both of which I'm okay with.

>>8652092
Carefully.

>>8652167
>In The Song of Roland, the sword is said to contain within its golden hilt one tooth of Saint Peter, blood of Saint Basil, hair of Saint Denis, and a piece of the raiment of the Blessed Virgin Mary
Why hello there Dracula. We have something nice for you.

Wait until he goes to sleep and creep silently to where it is.

>>8652173
>>8652113

OK. As night draws near you begin to make your way to Father's safe. After climbing down a few flight of stairs, you make your way to the tall iron door where your father keeps his various artefact's. If you want to break in without leaving a trace it won't be easy. The "wall" is bound with several arcane runes.

Roll a d20.

>>8652215
...I think just waving it in his general direction would cause him to light on fire.

>>8652092
I say we prepare our summon location and wait till later that night to break in and steal the artifact. If we botch the theft, we still have a prepared summoning area to attempt a random summon.

rolled 3 = 3

rollan'

>>8652258
We're using this roll.

>>8652238
Maybe we should go and try to persuade our father more rather than attempting to steal his shit. I'd really rather go into this with another experienced mage as backup rather than potential threat.

>>8652258

The door suddenly burns and sound starts emanating from it. CRAP!

You gotta do something fast!

"What's down there?" your father's voice comes from up above. Crap! He's heading straight for you!

>>8652302

Well it seems we needed a High roll...

>>8652302

Cast a mind control spell on ourself if possible.

rolled 20 = 20

Blast the door and grab the closest artifact! No time to pick and choose.

He is old! We are Asuka! Run in, snatch ANYTHING, run! He would be hard pressed to chase us, and unwilling to do anything too harsh to his beloved by rebellious daughter!

>>8652333

You proceed to try and cast a mind control spell on... yourself?

NO! It's the perfect bluff! He'll think we're sleepwalking and then we can look perfectly innocent!

Roll a d20 to see how well the effect works.

rolled 7 = 7

>>8652372

All else fails, we could do >>8652346

>>8652385
...Maybe we -should- sit the Grail War out.

>>8652346

(If it's alright with you guys. I'll take this roll.)

"Wait I can just blast the door do-" you begin but the magic energy is already released and you can feel your own magic energy penetrate your inner circuits. Slowly moving throughout them, they begin to mess with your inner psyche, throwing a cloud over your subconscious mind.
_____________________________

You are Kentaro Tohsaka now. You were just going to get Tobe's summoning charm from your vault. But as you descended the stairs you found to your shock that the alarm to your safe has gone off!

Could another master be trying to steal one of your artefact's as a summoning charm! Despite your decrepit body you manage to make your way downstairs fast enough to see...

Your daughter at the bottom. Standing perfectly still, her eyes completely blank and her expression emotionless.

"Janya? What are you doing down here!?" you ask indignantly. Could she have been trying to break into your vault?

She doesn't respond... that's odd.

rolled 16 = 16

>>8652471
No way. Who's going to kill Vlad if not brave hero Roland with his awesome holy sword?

>>8652302

Why not both? Hopefully, it'll make it look like someone in the Holy Grail War is targeting us, our father's artefact supply or possibly even threatening him. That way, he might give us what we want so we can "protect ourselves".

rolled 25 = 25

>>8652476
Restrain her.

>>8652476
Use our insight as an old paranoid bastard to get to the bottom of this.

rolled 15 = 15

>>8652476
give the bitch my pimp hand

>>8652476
Cast a spell on the country you run. And then take a bow.

>>8652546
>>8652510

You proceed to grab her hands and hold them behind her. She doesn't resist.

"Janya. What were you doing down here?" you demand.

"I have come to steal the sword of Roland the Paladin," she says without emotion.

"What? Why!?" you shout.

"So that I may participate in the holy grail war," she intones.

"..." you shake your head. This sounds just like something she would do. Once more it looks like she was hoping to fool you by casting mind altering magic on herself.

She may be good at mental-override charms but casting them on yourself is just foolish!

>>8652579
Haha, this.

((Also, OP: Should you go with Roland, look up Saver. It was the initial concept for Saber and is pretty much a male version of her.))

>>8652617
Use magic to snap her out of it and then punish her appropriately, but fairly, as befitting as your status of the Tohsaka household.

>>8652617
Contemplate leaving her as is to see how long her Enchantment lasts.

>>8652617
...Wait, she did this before?

>>8652617
Break the spell. Then take her upstairs for some Tohsaka-style punishment.

>>8652670

Sadly you cannot snap her out of it yet. The charms and abilities required would be too complex right now and you could wind up erasing or possibly messing with your daughter's mental circuits worse than she already has.

You will properly punish her for this. But not right now. For now, you must simply get Tobe his summoning charm.

You proceed to open the door to your vault and command your daughter to follow you. She does so obediently, her arms still behind her back as you left them.

The two of you walk inside, the various cultural artefact's you've collected lay out all around you. Eventually you pass the Sword of Roland and find the item you were looking for in question. A stone from the castle of Denmark. Hopefully this will be what Tobe needs in order to summon Ogliaf...
_________________________

Your bluff seems to have worked. Your father knew that you were good with mental override charms and commands. In a way, it was a good thing the spell failed enough for you to resist it's hold on your mind at any point you could desire.

Your father has his back turned now and the sword of Roland is easily within your grasp. What do you do?

Waiting for OP....

>>8652770
Blast the stone
grab sword
run
????
profit.

>>8652699

(I'm just taking a wild guess and saying she's good with mental type magics. Magics that are good at controlling thoughts, erasing or altering memories or possibly just confusing people for a moment)

>>8652770
...I doubt we can just run and grab it, even if we somehow hide it under our clothes, he's going to walk past it again...

>>8652808
You fool! You'll create a time paradox!

rolled 2 = 2

>>8652819

Wait as he's about to get out and lag behind him, using the moment to grab the sword.

>>8652808

(Just a note, the sword like many of the other artefact's is inside a wood crate that's been carefully labeled as such for proper storage. This may be a basement but no way he's gonna expose it to the air or possible light)

>>8652831
Assuming thats actually the stone Tobe used to summon Rider. This could justify the botched summoning we had last time. I mean outside interference could explain that shit....

>>8652819

I like the idea of being a mind hacker. Especially if we can reprogram ourself.

rolled 1 = 1

>>8652860
Caaaaaaaarefully open the box and steal the sword.

>>8652860
...How good are we with illusions? Like can we make an illusion of the crate so that when we take the sword, it will look like it's still there?

rolled 6 = 6

>>8652895
oh lawdy.

Let's try that again.

>>8652879
Calling it now: Janya ends up fucking up and the stone gets replaces with a stone from her room or something. The Stone Tobe ends up using ends up summoning the Rider who is a future version of Janya.

Why the hell does Janya fail so much?

>>8652917
Wait, we're supposed to roll high?

>>8652917
...Volg hasn't had the best luck either, I mean we haven't been hit by a truck yet.

>>8652940
In most cases, the higher the better. If we roll a one, its an auto fail, usually in hilarious ways. Unless the OP is operating on some system I'm not familiar with.

Use magic to blast crate open. Grab sword and run.

rolled 1 = 1

"Then I won't die. I'll win. I'll prove I'm strong enough to go without you coddling me."

>>8653081
>hurr to the durr

>>8653055
Then he should compete as well. With him, Tobe, and us all summoning servants and working together, how could we possibly fail to win the grail war?

>>8653092
"I am the Supervisor of the Holy Grail War, Kirei Kotomine."

THAT is how we can fail to win.

>>8653092

"Father... you could compete," you explain and he slams his hands on his desk.

"That's even more foolish! I-" he stops as he starts to cough uncontrollably. You forget often how old your father is and how unkind age has been to him. It'd be foolish of you to ask him to compete in the war. He's already done so once, and in his condition he'd be taken out in a matter of days.

Maybe it'd be best to simply comfort him for now?

>>8653154
Give him a hug and promise that you won't put yourself in any unnecessary danger. It's not a lie, after all you're Servant will be the one fighting, not you.

That or ask him what it is about the Holy Grail War that frightens him so much.

>>8653154
Would he? He could summon an Archer, which has an independent action ability, and then act as though he's not a master at all except for supplying its mana. Walking around and fighting personally isn't necessary, particularly with two other magi on his side...

...but if he's not willing to fight for the family, fine. Try to make him feel better, and act the good daughter until he goes to sleep and we can slip away to summon Roland.

HUG GRANDFATHER

SUMMON SERVANT

>>8653154
Propose that Tobe and Janya work together as a two-master team. If this Emiya character has the ability to pull a Servant at all, then a more experienced magus such as ourselves can serve as a balancing agent for his inexperience.

Two Servants working together from the get-go is almost certain to achieve victory.

Let's find someone called Patsy and make her seem like the one who summoned Roland!

>>8653208
Finally, Odysseus in the house!

>>8653214
>>8653208
>>8653178

You proceed to hug him.

"Don't worry father. I promise I won't put myself in any unnecessary danger."

"Janya my daughter... thank you," he sighs as he slowly hugs you back.
__________________________________

A few minuets later you're back in your room. The sword of Roland in your hand... dammit this is not good. It's only a matter of time till he finds out it's gone. And if you summon your servant here you'll just be holding up a big flashing sign saying "LOOK AT ME! I'M SUMMONING A SERVANT!" no doubt you could summon him here without your father noticing. But staying here? That's another story entirely.

What to do, what to do...

If the old man doesn't want to risk his daughter, why don't we sneak a magic tome to a ordinary human we can easily manipulate and get him to summon a servant for us?

>>8653303
No, that's silly.

Let's find some secret place to summon it.

Why not Tobe's house? I'm sure you have a key or know a way in.

>>8653303
because our lackey of choice is currently preparing to summon a servant

head up into the mountains and summon there

Do we go to school? Why don't we go there to make that our base of operations? Shinji had the right idea, besides being an asshole. Lots of people, no way to tell who the Master is.

>>8653293
Our father has made it clear that he cares deeply about our welfare. Once we've conducted the summoning ritual, we'll be stuck as a Master for better or worse; if he really cares about us he'll either summon up a Servant himself to help out, or offer us all the backup he can- the only safety will come through victory at that point, after all. We therefore might be able to get away with staying here after summoning our Servant.

Of course, we'd have to argue our case effectively... and put up with his disapproval.

>>8653366
I SUPPORT THIS PLAN

>>8653339

>Why not Tobe's house? I'm sure you have a key or know a way in.

Tobe came from a city outside Skyline.

But then, using an ordinary house as a base wouldn't be SO bad. There are plenty of large western and eastern styled houses in the city... but still. You couldn't move furniture into one. Nor could you buy one without your father noticing.

Maybe you could move into one already occupied but... how do you convince people you've never met to let you stay there so that you can participate in a war between magical entities from beyond time!?

We have Roland's sword.

If we summon Roland, won't he have his sword?

Can Roland Dual Wield with our copy?

>>8653395
OP said that our copy was broken.

>>8653383
>>8653366

School's also a plan!

But you'd need a proper room to work out of.

>>8653395
No, he's magically empower this one and weild it. See: Avalon.

>>8653303
This gives me a plan made of equal parts cruelty, brilliance and madness.

We get some ordinary person to summon a servant... but before that, we help them with the ritual, and we have them drink a slow poison as something "necessary", without telling them what it is. Then they die shortly after summoning their servant- a master/servant pair down with almost no work on our part.

>>8653409
The roof.

>>8653389

>Maybe you could move into one already occupied but... how do you convince people you've never met to let you stay there so that you can participate in a war between magical entities from beyond time!?

Reprogramming brains might help.

rolled 8 = 8

>>8653389

Act like a common school girl and say that your house is passing through remodeling.

>>8653389
Mental magics are traditional, and we're pretty good with them. Convince the current inhabitants that we're a relation or desired guest.

>>8653409
Roof could work. Or we could use the gym. More space, less chance of people noticing our summoning since its not out in the open. Also, large enough for any fights to take place in.

>>8653440

I'm going to wade in here and second the school.

>>8653395
because it isn't full powaa

>>8653434
better idea

mind control magic+school or other crowded building

>>8653480

Copying a Noble Phantasm level artifact in anything approaching decent quality is really outside the realm of most people, even experienced mages anyhow.

But walking into a random home and declaring yuorself their cousin from out of town, where's the food is so full of sit-com potential!

>>8653493
Point. Could we set up an aura that convinces everyone we're a teacher or something? Could work out well.

>>8653505

It'd be easier to set up an aura that simply prevents people from entering certain locations, like the roof or some disused storage room.

>>8653545
>>8653545

Sakamoto's House. NOW.

>>8653434
>>8653431

PERFECT!

You'll just... "convince" the inhabitance of another household that you're a well-meaning guest!

Now which household to go for... that's the question.

There's a few you're aware of but haven't bothered to look up much.

One belongs to that weird girl Chantal. She's kinda stupid but she lives alone with her mother.

Another one is Yuen-Ai's house. She's a girl from China who lives with her VERY traditional parents in a large Asian styled house.

Lemme think... there's also Mr and Mrs Midel's house. They're a nice couple who recently moved to Skyline. They live in a mid-sized western house that's just a few blocks away from the school.

>>8653493
>>8653505

Seems a bit too complex for you. Brainwashing everyone overnight into thinking you're a teacher would just raise too many questions and might alert another master to your activities.

>>8653556

(I fucked that up to be honest. I realized too late that Sakamoto is a Japanese name while I said she was from China. My bad :P)

For all you people suggesting underhanded tactics... Remember that Roland was a paragon of virtue. Knowing we disobeyed our father and stole the sword is bad enough... We don't want to put unnecessary strain on our relationship with our servant.

Chantal is probably going to be involved in the war herself. The Weird ones always are.

>>8653579
Heh. No problem. I think I got my message through.

rolled 1, 13, 2 = 16

>>8653561
to lazy to choose. rollin chantal, yuen-ai, and midels, in order, for my vote

>>8653610
>>8653556
>>8653605

Seems to be one vote for Chantal and another for Yuen-Ai. Any other takers?

>>8653593

This just reinforces an idea I had - live on the streets.

- No-one would think to look for us there.
- Travel around without being noticed.
- Roland can help the needy.
- Others reasons that don't immediately spring to mind.

>>8653675
No. Also. Vote for China girl.

>>8653675
...That could work, and no one would expect the daughter of one of the world's richest mages to be slumming it.

A couple minuets later you leave your room with most of your valuables tucked away inside your backpack and you make your way down into the residential area of Skyline City.

You move up to a beautiful Chinese house and knock on the door. It opens to reveal a beautiful woman in a Chinese dress answer the door.

"Yes? How may I help you?" she asks. It must be Yuen's mother.

rolled 14 = 14

>>8653797
MIND CONTROL

>>8653828
>MIND CONTROL

D:

>>8653828

You wave your hands in front of her. The woman just seems to pause for a second as you feel your magical energy start to worm it's way into her mental circuits. OK. You can practically do anything you want with her right now... what's the best way to go about this?

Welp, I'm off to bed. Try not to do anything stupid, the threads already been archived on sup/tg/ like the rest.

>>8653797
Who the hell is she?

Surely someone of absolutely no importance whatsoever.

>>8653911
Lets ask her where the other people in the house are, and if they are sleeping.

>>8653944

"OK. Who else is here?"

"Yuen is here as well am I," she intones "Yuen's father is currently out of town on a business trip. Our maid should also be around in the afternoon but she has gone home for the evening."

>Saber
So why didn't we summon this Servant again?
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8598494/#8600128
He was proposed as a Saber class in the initial thread so why not? Is he no good?

>>8653993
"Is Yuen sleeping? If she is, take me to her and quietly."

>>8654003
because fuck year Kamen Rider.

Also, OP. Which Rider did we summon? Double? V1? Stronger?

>>8654031
No, Strongest.

That said, we chose the sword of Roland the Paladin.

>>8654003
because we got troll'd and got a rider instead.

also, tohsaka knows that tobe is getting him (she saw her dad get the stone to summon him) so she's racing him to get a saber first.

actually, this could explain WHY we got Rider...

anyway, mom directs us to daughter, second mind control spell

>>8654050
>No, Strongest.
Sup, Tendou.

>>8654021

"Yuen is not sleeping," she states. As she says this, the young Chinese girl walks up to her mother and notices you standing there.

"Oh... hello Janya," she says "what're you doing here?"

rolled 14 = 14

>>8654085
MIND CONTROL

>>8654098
>>8653828
>14
wat

oh well, mind control, set up circle, summon, profit

>>8654098
Sooner or later that policy will end badly for us.

>>8654098

In a matter of minuets, you're sitting in the living room, kneeling on some traditional mats while Yuen and her mother drink Tea.

"It is so good that you could visit us cousin!" Yuen says happily "I had no idea that you had come all the way from China to simply see us!"

You sit at the table with a glass of traditional tea in front of you and a path to the outside right there. They both seem utterly convinced of your mental-reprogramming. Now what do you do next?

>>8654163
Lets get our fucking summon going.

>>8654163
set up on basement, roof, or the like, SUMMON

also in b4 suddenly CHINESE SERVANT

>>8654222
>CHINESE SERVANT
Pic related would be a disaster of a Servant. Maybe.

>>8654222

You make you way up into the attic and begin your summoning ritual.

You draw the circle on the ground. Wait till the hour is appropriate... and then you begin.

Slowly you let out your chanting. The circle glows and emits light as Roland's sword in the center begins to shake. Slowly the hilt of the sword rises. Then the tip, and then all the smaller pieces begin to form together. Each of them attaching to another piece until the full sword appears in front of you. In a blast of radiance you are struck with a huge piercing light. It almost blinds your eyes to watch it... and then. An arm reaches out and grabs the sword's hilt. The light fades and you see a tall man standing there. An aura of complete grace and power fills his body. He opens his eyes and looks to you.

"Answer me," he speaks in a calm yet confident voice "are you my ma-"

>>8654222
>>8654291
Grail can't summon Chinese servants because nasu is racist, deal w/ it

>>8654299
"Yes, I am your master. And you are?"

>>8654301
Knowing Asia's utter hatred for each other, you've got a 99% chance of being correct.

>>8654299

At which point the window behind him is blast open by a motorcycle and you see an armored figure go flying past him and nearly hit you... and for just a second you could swear Tobe was sitting behind him.

You hit the floor and the motorcycle just bounces off before hitting the wall and goes flying through the roof.

"... what was that?" the servant you have just summoned asks.

"Are you mate?"

>>8654325
No seriously, Nasu himself confirmed this

But Nasu has horrible taste anyway, so its not suprising

dun Dun DUN!

>>8654330
suddenly ZOMGWTF.

Janya: "Yes, now defeat that servant!"
followed by preparing whatever magic we got

Wait. What is this weeaboo shit?

>>8654330
"Most likely it is one of our opponents."

So honestly OP is a generic Rider or did we summon Double?

>>8654371

"Understood!" and he jumps through the roof after him.

__________________________________

Saber (Roland the Paladin)
>Abillities/Equipement
Holy Weapon - Durendal: A
This sword cannot be destroyed by any force known to man or god. Blessed with unique holy power, it is especially baneful against any demonic or evil servants.

Holy Protection - Magic Resistance: Rank A
Cancels any magic below A-rank. In practice, no magi today are able to hurt Saber.

Holy Mount - Veillantif: B
Saber can summon a powerful riding horse to his aid whenever needed.

>Stats
Strength: A+
Endurance: B
Agility: C
Magical Energy: A
Luck: A
Noble Phantasm: ???

>Skills
Riding B
Ability to ride things. He can ride most vehicles with above average skill, but he cannot ride those of demonic beast or holy beast rank.

Charisma C
Natural talent to command an army. It increases the ability of one's army during mass combat. Charisma is a rare talent, and C-rank is enough to lead an army.

>>8654386
Kamen Rider.

>>8654417

(The Rider you summoned has no clue who he is. Making him a wild card like Archer.)

>This sword cannot be destroyed by any force known to man or god. Blessed with unique holy power, it is especially baneful against any demonic or evil servants.

HANDY.
This thing could block, say, a cannonball. Anything physical.

>Holy Protection - Magic Resistance: Rank A
Cancels any magic below A-rank. In practice, no magi today are able to hurt Saber.

And that could block anything magical!

:D

okay, let's see what we got
>Blessed with unique holy power, it is especially baneful against any demonic or evil servants.
vampire slayer, check
>C agility
ouch
>I GOT A HORSE. IT IS AMAZING
makes up for the c

sure is arthur clone. hope his phantasm kicks ass... either way, KILL THE SERVANT, HE'S IN OUR HOUSE, MESSING UP STUFF

>>8654424
...I believe that we just hit the jackpot.

>>8654472
Technically, it's not -our- house...

>>8654443
>(The Rider you summoned has no clue who he is. Making him a wild card like Archer.)
Well then, I hope it's not a weakshit Rider, or one I don't like.

Crossing fingers for Double.

>>8654472

>sure is arthur clone

(To be honest FS/N Saber was pretty much a Paladin archetype anyway.)

>>8654483
It's our base! It's the principal of the matter you know?

>>8654483
IT IS NOW

This isn't based on F/SN I know, but F/SN's Durandal is partly based on some stories were Durandal was blessed and granted 3 wishes, lots of events unfolded and inthe end only one of the wishes was used.
Durandal have had many owners however and Roland was not the hero of any of the versions that had granted it wishes.
But in F/SN 2 of those wishes remain and the mystical rank of this blessing outranks UBW, so if Archer were to use a wish, he wouldn't be able to project another one and regain it, as the miracle is greater than UBW.
There you have it, some fun extra information regarding the Nasuverse.

>>8654498
can't be double, he's all black. prob. original rider do not steal or simply Black

>>8654517
>>8654508
>>8654483
>>8654472

Roland the Paladin watches as the bike drives off down toward... the holy temple?

Unusual. Such entities were commanded by his master to attack yet they retreat to the church of the Christian god?

You ponder if you should pursue.

>this thread

>>8654529
Rider has amnesia, it could just be Joker forgetting that he has access to the elemental memories, since I'm guessing that Shotarou and Phillip wouldn't really count for being Kamen Rider Double in the eyes of the Grail, seeing as Kamen Rider would be an icon in of itself.

>>8654567
Or I could be thinking too much and we get Black, which is also fine too.

((Well guys if that's all for today I think I'll go play some God of War. Next update will probably come next week so till then, see you soon!))

>>8654567
>Rider has amnesia.
GENTLEMEN, THERE IS ONLY ONE ANSWER TO WHO THIS RIDER PERSON IS.

>>8654573
Rider could be like canon True Assassin. A combination of every man who has ever held the title of Kamen Rider.

>>8654567
No, it would have to be a hero with lots of recognition. And a motorcycle. One of the older Riders, one that's popular.

Maybe. Since it's a Rider (hurr), it has Riding Rank A or S, so it can ride a motorcycle regardless of identity.

>>8654599
...
Narutaki?
But I do like the idea of it being ALL RIDERS versus Dai-Heroes.

>>8654605
>>8654624
>ALL RIDERS IN ONE SERVANT

>>8654472
>vampire slayer
Perhaps but with this guy as the Saber class Sigurd is out of the game, and was supposedly the strongest servant, he could have been more useful.
But on the other hand, with this we won't have him as an enemy either.

Remaining classes
Archer, Caster, Assassin, Berserker
He would only qualify as Berserker, but he would suck as Berserker compared to Saber at least, but that is one enemy out.

On the other hand, with the status increase boost that come with the class he might be a dangerous opponent still even so.
I just figured that being one of the more knowledgeable servants summoning him as Berserker would be a waste, but seing as how his physical stats are top as well he could be a fearsome opponent as berserker, especially considering his immortality.
But with Mad Enhancement he would lose his ability to gather intel at which he would supposedly be really great at.
But yeah in the end I doubt that any master would be able to control such a strong servant as Berserker for very long and especially if theyhave to use their own familliars to gather intel as they feed on their master's mana.
So yes, the most dangerous opponent is out, and with a Servant that is effective against most dangerous nr.2 I would supose that she could get by until the end with this Roland.

>>8654674
So is there anyone who isn't wasted by being assigned to Berserker?
I mean I'm pretty sure even the Norse heroes like Beowulf relied on cleverness.

>>8654674
You can summon Sigurd as Berserker and NOT trigger Mad Enhancement. He lacks the Magic Resistance he'd get from being a Saber, but he's otherwise nigh identical to his Saber version.

And when shit reallly does go down? MAD ENHANCEMENT.

Also, Kentaro Tohsaka needs to summon an Archer for Independant Action nonsense.

>>8654708
well, there's people who are famous FOR being crazy batshit in war

Hopefully we won't have to deal with the 'True Assassin' nonsense... I'd like to have that option open.

>>8654708
Jack the ripper

>>8654739
Like Samson? I mean the whole killing a thousand men just to make a lame pun... That's messed up.

>>8654765
samson would be god tier berserker. esp. since all you need for him is a jaw.... assuming you don't accidentally get some random native american hero or some shit like that

>>8654674
>saber
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8598494/#8600128

>berserker
Strength: A
Endurance: A++
Agility: A+
Magical Energy: A
Luck: C
Noble Phantasm: A+

Dragon Blood - Immortality: A+
Immune against attacks ranked A+ or lower everywhere except his left shoulder.

I see no problem with this, other than perhaps breaking the system.
I guess game breaking servants are rather costly, it could be funny to see how one would handle an invincible mad servant.

>>8654780
But his weak point is his fucking HAIR.

So thus far we have Dracula, Roland the Paladin, and Kamen fucking Rider as servants. We need to keep the epic up.
I've heard Odysseus as Archer, and Samson as Berserker, and we know that some viking that's probably Beowulf has already been chosen.

>>8654847
Helmet bro

>>8654727
What?
The mad enhancement is a requirement for the Berserker class.
It's like how the Knight classes come with magic resistance, Archer with independent action, Assassin with precence concealment and Rider with riding.
You can't chose not to trigger mad enhancement, mad enhancement is what you have to tamper int the ritual in order to get them to be Berserker, and it is also the reason for why no master was able to control them until Iliya did it by being custom made with the pinnacle of homunculi technology.

>>8654330
Oh god
which rider is it? W?

>>8654913
unknown. I hope it's faiz

>>8654913
We aren't sure yet.

Some Anon's are thinking he is every rider at once.

I think He is Decade. Like the Cannon Decade. I think he fucked up while jumping between worlds and got sucked into the ritual. Wither that or the Rider is future Janya.

>>8654953
...Fate no Sekai.

What exactly determines if a heroic spirit is a good fit for the Caster class? Because famous mages aren't as common as you would think...

Here's your Berserker

>>8655024
could have magic or magic-like abilities

where did OP go?

>>8655338
He left like 20 minutes ago... The quest has ended for today

>>8655350
Awwww.

*Scherezade chimes in* Did someone say they need a Caster?

>>8657422

Okay, I'm back from my long sleep to catch up.

>*Scherezade chimes in* Did someone say they need a Caster?

Speaking of a 1001 Nights, I would remind everyone that heroic animals are also eligable in the grail as well. I mentioned it at the start, but this makes things like Fenris, Sleipnir, the Nemean Lion, the Hydra etc all eligable. From 1001 nights there was a Lion who could talk to animal and man, was regarded as the mighty king of beasts, but his one weakness was a cage of wood.

Also, there's Sinbad, Alladin, Ali Baba, although none of them would be THAT powerful a servant, Alladins Noble Phantasm would be A++ tier though as he summons forth a horde of Djinni.

But if you want to know the identity of the No.1 person we DONT want to see get summoned as Archer, look no further than Rama from the Ramayana.
This guy is a mortal (and thus eligable) avatar of Vishnu, the Hindu God of FUCKING PERFECTION. He was also infamous for using Vishnu's super divine bow.

On the subject of caster, we KNOW that Rasputins cock is in the Museum, but there's always the old standby's of Faust, Merlin or Moses.

Then there's berzerker, the wildcard. Who knows what thats going to turn up.

On the subject of Kamen Rider, our servant has the ability to turn anything into a bike right? I'm pretty sure that the only riders who could transform things like that was Agito and Chalice from blade. As I think the OP would have dropped something that would have enabled us to recognise if it had a FUCKING HEART SHAPED HELMET then my money's on Agito.

Sorry to bump it after it died, I just felt like throwing in my opinion at the end.

>>8660083
>I would remind everyone that heroic animals are also eligable in the grail as well

I'M VOTING FOR LASSIE.

Were the criteria for servants ever explained beyond being a hero/villain?

>>8660110
>>8660197

No heroes younger than 100 years, that's been clarified in the first chapter of Fate/Stay Zero.
Beyond that, I think you can summon pretty much anyone from history. Hence the Angry Manjuu incident.

>>8660399

What about archer then?

>LASSIE

Type : Archer
Noble Fatasm : Rocks fall, everyone dies, Lassie runs to its owner and barks happily.

>>8660408

Archer is a living contradiction to a lot of the rules. I think the fact that he was a Counter Guardian may have had something to do with it as well.
Also, it's more than likely that Archer was from at least 100 years in the future as well. So you've still got that 100 years barrier. Possibly.

Look "Archer did it" is not an excuse for anything.

I also get the feeling that the Grail didn't really want to give her Archer, but she borked the spell timings so badly it had to.

Lots of anime in this thread

/tg/

>>8660456

So we can get practically everybody as long as we complain hard enough? Great!

>>8660469

I have no idea truthfully how she managed to summon Archer.
Even Archer seemed a little put out that someone had managed to do so.
I'm aware that she had the required catalyst, but even so it SHOULDN'T have resulted in summoning anything. Gah, that side of things is really a mess.

>>8660547
I was asleep but if you want it clarified I can give you the information.
Rin summoning Archer was a bit reversed when it came to the mechanics.
It was less so that she had the catalyst to summon Archer, it was more so that Archer had the catalyst to be summoned by her.
This basically means that while the pendant was a necessary catalyst, no one else except her would have been able to use it to summon Archer, he was only able to be summoned because Rin with the pendant was the connection to him.

It is all reversed really, if we take Gilgamesh's summon for an examle.
Tokiomi used the snake skin as a catalyst with the connection to Gilgamesh and the part the snake played in his life.
When it came to Archer's summon however it was more like this.
Archer in the future had Rin's pendant with a connection to her and how she saved his life, and then it was used by her as a catalyst for a summon in the past.

So one can't simply go and find a catalyst that would be associated with a hero in the future, that isn't enough and that isn't really how it works either.

>>8663267
That was very painful to read. Get some more sleep, please.

>>8660547
>>8663267
So we can't summon futuristic sci-fi heroes from the future, like Gundam pilots for an example?
Too bad, but yeah, the Rider spot is already taken so I guess it doesn't matter.