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    139 KB Operation Horse Therapy Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)09:59 No.8562185  
    OP Again.

    So the mission starts in about one hour. The group talked about loadouts, and came up with this.
    Currently, I am planning on using 4xAGM-78s, 6x500lb Iron, and 4x AIM-9L sidewinders.
    The Flanker guy said he'd mount 4xAA-10 Alamo C and 4xAA-11 Archer. Just in case he put on 2 SPPU-6 Gun Pods.
    The Aardvark has 4 Durandals, four GBU-15s, as well as eight Snakeyes.
    The other F4 has four LAU-60/A launches, 4 AIM-7 Sparrows, And 2 AIM-9Ls
    The Mirage F1 has 2x1000 lb bombs, six Brimstones, two R550s, and a Two Matra missile pods.

    Other threads are here:

    Thank yu for all the help so far. With luck, and the new knowledge i got here, i think things will hopefully go wel.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:02 No.8562219
    "So, tell me avout your muzzer."

    "My mother was a dam. She didn't even know my father before he did her. It was all for the same of breeding. All of it. Just trying to produce the perfect little Thoroughbred..."

    "I see. Und how does zat make you feel?"
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:04 No.8562237
    What is this for? and what are you flying?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:07 No.8562275
    It's for an RPG that I joine a few days ago. I'm flying an F4 since it seems to be the best multirole choice.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:09 No.8562290
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    ... oh you.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:09 No.8562296
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    Wrong, you are flying an F-4 because it is the manliest fighter ever made, and has more character than your average Dickens or Dostoevsky novel put together.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:11 No.8562321
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    Yes. The only thing it lacks is the ability to turn.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:13 No.8562333
    Turns are for people who can't light the cans and hit near Mach 2.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:15 No.8562364

    Rocket Spam.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:18 No.8562388
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    Disappointing none of you guys chose this.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:20 No.8562411
    It's /tg/, we wouldn't know a capable airframe if we tried.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:23 No.8562440
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    Funny how this game seems incredibly interesting, and at the same time, complete gibberish to me.

    Anonball cannot into airspace.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:27 No.8562493
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    Actually, I am anxiously awaiting some form of ruleset, since based on all the info I've seen, and with this new post with LAWL weapons, I get the impression that this game is basically a mega air sim in RPG form.

    @OP: You guys are loaded for motherfucking WAR!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:28 No.8562501
    The airframe as such is good, but you got to agree that the types they chose are a tiny bit more modern.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:33 No.8562548

    My knowledge of aircraft has failed me.
    What is that?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:33 No.8562550
    Aside from the Mirage, they all have two engines as well. A-4 only has one.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:34 No.8562557
    A-4 Skyhawk, vietnam era light strike aircraft.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:37 No.8562599
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    Kick some somali terrorist Ass!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:38 No.8562602
    And, together with the F-4 and MiG-21, it is porof that you can use fuckawesome and make it into an airplane.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:39 No.8562620
    Im pulling for you OP, my first airplane was an F-4 and i thought it carried a shit ton of armament
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:40 No.8562631
    Godspeed OP, show em what F-4s are made of
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:41 No.8562640
    IRL? Cause that is awesome! I fly a Trash Hauler, never wanted to do the fighter thing myself.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:47 No.8562694

    Yeah. That little airfield doesn't stand a goddamn chance. Between them, they have enough firepower to make it a bad day in Baghdad for a small country. Just a smoking crater in the Somalian highlands.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:50 No.8562719
    I'm actually proud to have contributed to this.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:52 No.8562742
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    Doesn't stand a chance. The F-4s alone could make it pay, but that Flanker will DOMINATE.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:54 No.8562771
    yeah and its true that it doesnt turn worth a damn...... but luckily it has some of the best survivability in vietnam

    lets not get too overconfident, im sure the DMs gonna have a couple tricks up his sleeve......im sure theres going to be some form of challenge
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:56 No.8562790
    Hahaha, yeah, OP will be back and be like:

    JUST AS PLANNED! Except we shot down an airliner and accidentally snakeyed a pig farm.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)10:59 No.8562822
    Sounds like you are doing Wicked Weasel OP, here's a thought.

    An SA-2 can control three missiles at once, but to my knowledge, the early ones can only fire guide on one target, so, if you are doing a coordinated strike, make sure you are the SA-2's first shot, launch your HARMS, then max burner, hard turn out of there, since you bet your ass two or three rocket propelled telephone poles are on their way up to say hello.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:01 No.8562838
    Yeah seriously. I've been pushing the A-4 since I found the second thread.

    Still waiting on that rules set OP. Come on man don't let us down.

    Oh and kick that airfields ass for us. Don't take no shit from it.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:01 No.8562847
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    Another thought, don't treat your intel as gospel. Even if you take out that SA-2 radar, make another pass and wreck those missiles. It wouldn't be out of character to have a mobile radar station (tracked vehicle) away from the launch/primary radar site to wreck your day.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:02 No.8562856
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    WILD weasel. Wicked Weasel is something else, but just as glorious.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:04 No.8562873
    OP again, I'm off, thanks guys, tell you how it went when I get back.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:05 No.8562883
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    Check Six. Keep your corners clean. Light the cans only if necessary and remember the speed bump (your plane will slow just before the burners light off)

    And take this for luck. (What, you guys are all humming it right now anyway!)
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:05 No.8562889
    Good luck! And get us that damn rule set!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:08 No.8562906
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:09 No.8562914
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    Actually I have this in my head.

    Strangely appropriate.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:09 No.8562918
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:10 No.8562935

    Are they using somalia as a setting?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:13 No.8562964
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    The mental imagery of them blowing the shit out of some innocent pork amuses me greatly. BACON BITS EVERYWHERE!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:15 No.8562975
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    I think they are based out of the DRC.
    Plane List from OP post in the other thread.
    F-CK-1 Ching-Kuo
    J-10 Annihilator
    F-106 Delta Dart
    Mirage 2000
    Mirage F1
    Mirage III
    Eurofighter Typhoon
    A-10 Thunderbolt
    F-111 Aardvark
    F-16C Falcon
    F-16E Falcon
    F-16XL Falcon
    A-1 Skyraider
    A-6 Intruder
    F-14B Tomcat
    F-14D Tomcat
    XF-29 Wildcat II
    T-50 Golden Eagle
    F-104C Starfighter
    F-22A Raptor
    F-35A Lightning II
    F-35B Lightning II
    F-35C Lightning II
    AV-8B Harrier II
    F-101B Voodoo
    F-15C Eagle
    F-15E Eagle
    F-15SE Silent Eagle
    F/A-18 Hornet
    F/A-18E Super Hornet
    MiG-21 Fishbed E
    MiG-23 Flogger E
    MiG-25 Foxbat
    MiG-29SM Fulcrum C
    MiG-31 Foxhound
    MiG-35 Fulcrum E
    F-100 Super Sabre
    F-20 Tigershark
    F-5E Tiger II
    YF-23 Black Widow II
    Tornado ADV
    F-105 Thunderchief
    JAS-35 Draken
    JAS-37 Viggen
    JAS-39 Gripen
    Su-17 Fitter
    Su-24 Fencer
    Su-25 Frogfoot
    SU-27BM Flanker J
    Su-27S Flanker B
    Su-30MKI Flanker H
    Su-33 Flanker D
    Su-34 Fullback
    Su-35 Flanker E
    A-7 Corsair
    F-8E Crusader
    Yak-38 Forger
    Yak-141 Freestyle
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:15 No.8562982
    So what shall we do until OP returns? Come up with horrible ways he and his merc comrades might get the shit kicked out of them on their first mission?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:20 No.8563027
    Theyre bombing africa so all they have to worry about is 10yr olds with AKs and aids
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:21 No.8563041
    Ground Chief: Wow, looks like you got shot up pretty bad!
    Pilot: No, birdstrike.
    Ground Chief: Birdstrike...
    Pilot: Yeah
    Ground Chief: Tell me, were those 23mm birds, or 12.7 mm?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:22 No.8563050
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:22 No.8563053
    I'd take the first one on that list, the Ching whatever, just so I could say I fly a FUCK-1 Fighter.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:24 No.8563063
    The mission was going fine, until Max flew into a tree. That's when things started to go dwonhill...
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:25 No.8563070
    Not true they could encounter any number of these aircraft
    Aermacchi MB-326
    Aermacchi SF-260
    Aérospatiale SA 316
    Antonov An-26
    Britten-Norman BN-2
    Cessna 150
    Cessna 310
    de Havilland Canada DH-5 Buffalo
    Douglas C-47 Skytrain
    Eurocopter AS 332
    Lockheed C-130 Hercules
    Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 Flogger
    Mil Mi-35 Hind-E
    Mil Mi-26 Halo
    Reims Cessna 337 Skymaster
    Sukhoi Su-25 Frogfoot
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:30 No.8563120
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    Gentlemen, care to explain why you felt the three little piggies deserved to die?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:32 No.8563138
    Sudan, actually.

    Also, the Flanker is just hilarious overkill against two MiG-17 and a Fishbed.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:34 No.8563151
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:37 No.8563179
    I'm excited about this mission and I'm not even playing in this game. It just reeks of awesome.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:38 No.8563189
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    A flanker is Overkill against most aircraft.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:39 No.8563195
    i just read the tech manual on the flanker ....holy crap.....make the rest of OPs force seem like support........but you know what i bet the DM saw this and the Flankers gonna get SAMed first
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:40 No.8563214
    Actually, from what OP said before, The flanker guy almost bankrupted himself, and he took the old Flanker B or something. He had almost no cash left for ammunition, and you can bet he'll be coming in only after that SAM is down, and really high, ie out of range of the ZSUs.
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros III !PhseAMrpPY 03/13/10(Sat)11:40 No.8563215
    Someone should fly a Fokker Dr. I for lulz.

    Also, enemy rounds go right through it and missiles will ignore it :D
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:42 No.8563230
    Uncanny its so slow and lightweight it woukld be ignored
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:45 No.8563247
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    Somehow I think that gsh23mm rounds and a DR1 wouldn't get along, especially not at 1500rpm fire rate.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:46 No.8563253
    This needs to go to /k/
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros III !PhseAMrpPY 03/13/10(Sat)11:46 No.8563255

    The thing is that they would be flying so fast and you so low that they would have no time to aim properly, specially since their minimum speed is way above your maximum.
    >> planefag 03/13/10(Sat)11:46 No.8563258
    >The other F4 has four LAU-60/A launches, 4 AIM-7 Sparrows, And 2 AIM-9Ls

    Even though I hate the AIM-7 (USNF'97 faithfully modeled it's reliability, to my unending hate,) if you're going to use them, this is how to do it. Take at least four.

    And the rocket pods are an excellent, cheap way to add ground attack capability.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:46 No.8563268
    Easy solution. Do a mach 1.5 flyby. The shock wave would tear that little fokker to pieces.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:47 No.8563277
    This F-4 love makes me remember the USNF '97 Vietnam campaign.

    I'd reinstall, but it runs too fast on modern machines. :<
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros III !PhseAMrpPY 03/13/10(Sat)11:49 No.8563287

    You guys have no love for classics.

    *Goes play Dynamix's Red Baron 3D*
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:49 No.8563290
    If you can find it, Jane's fighters anthology has ATF, ATF Nato Fighters, and USNF 97 in one box that runs on modern pcs no problem. If you really want, I can try to iso my disc copy.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:50 No.8563301

    HELL YES I fucking love that game. I still remember the time the Red Baron showed up at my Aerodrome.



    Oh, that sounds absolutely AWESOME, thanks for letting me know. I'm sure I can find a torrent.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:50 No.8563302
    Dammit /tg/, now I'm stuck in Wikipedia reading about Bloody April.
    Stupid air-war thread.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:53 No.8563322
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    This is the flight sim that got me into flight sims.

    Fighters Anthology is a compilation of flight simulators that includes Advanced Tactical Fighters, Advanced Tactical Fighters - Nato Fighters, and U.S. Navy Fighters '97 - all games from Electronic Arts' Jane's Combat Simulations, integrated into one game. The game features aircraft from the 1960s through the late 1990s from a variety of nations, including a few hypothetical aircraft such as the Aurora. About a hundred aircraft are flyable, including fixed-wing fighters, bombers, and attack planes. The game includes a mission editor, detailed manual, and featured multiplayer capabilities. Six campaigns are included: the Baltics, Egypt, the Kuril Islands, Ukraine, Vietnam, and Vladivostok. Each campaign has about 25-40 missions and features several flyable aircraft from each campaign's time period. A Quick Mission option is also available for quick dogfights or ground attacks.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:53 No.8563324
    Make it sound good!

    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros III !PhseAMrpPY 03/13/10(Sat)11:55 No.8563340

    I got challenged by an ace to a one-on-one duel once.

    I go there and the bastard shows up with three wingmen.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:55 No.8563355

    Also, op, YOU BETTER TAKE NOTES, since I expect a detailed after action report. We put a lot of work into getting you ready, I want to know how shit went down!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)11:59 No.8563379
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    God the Flanker's drooping neck is gorgeous.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:00 No.8563386
    1. Change to WW2 aircraft and steal plot from Iron Eagle 3.
    2. ?????
    3. PROFIT!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:01 No.8563395
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    Yeah seriously! Three threads just to prep you! You better pay up.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:01 No.8563396


    would play this
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:02 No.8563399
    WW2 air combat is overdone. This RPG actually smells fresh.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:03 No.8563410
    The third thread doesn't count, since about 70% involved sexualizing planes by giving them personalities.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:03 No.8563419
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    This thread lacks DELICIOUS DELICIOUS PAK-FA
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:04 No.8563421
    Fuck you i'd still play a WW2 version of this before I played OPs version. And thats sayin something since i'm practically tripping over myself to play OPs game.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:05 No.8563432
    Different strokes for different folks. I think combat would be easier in WW2, since you don't have guided missiles.
    >> planefag 03/13/10(Sat)12:05 No.8563440

    >three wingmen

    Oh yeah, some of those niggers just LOVED pulling that shit.

    Didn't stop me from ripping their guts out anyways, though.

    And as I wheeled over their smoking wrecks, I nonchalantly aimed my nose for home and said,

    "Looks like you and your gang.... got BANGED."
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:06 No.8563448

    >I think combat would be easier in WW2

    Play IL-2 sometime and try to hit anything, ANYTHING, with guns.

    Protip: aerial gunnery is fucking hard.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:07 No.8563453
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    Sukhoi ain't got nothing on this.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:07 No.8563457
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    80s Anime makes for great RPG settings.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:08 No.8563469

    Doesn't that show involve MiG-21s and F-8Js duking it out? I need to see that sometime.
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    >Sukhoi ain't got nothing on this.
    >Posts a Fail-22
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:08 No.8563472
    I do, it's not hard at all for me. You just have to learn bullet weight. .50 cals are the easiest. The LVHC on some german planes take more skill, but depending on your angle, you should still score one or two hits, and that's all you need with one of those.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:08 No.8563478
    You are a Huge airplane, that means you have Huge guts.........RIP AND TEAR!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:09 No.8563484
    It's a great concept wrecked by Anime and japanese culture.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:10 No.8563497

    If you're good at it, yeah, you can do it.

    I don't know that I'd say modern BVR missile combat is easier or harder, though- there is some mad insane shit you need to consider with those weapons, when to release, how far away to release, managing radar settings, etc. It's tricky.
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:12 No.8563519
    Fuck man, no one picked the A-10 Thunderbolt?

    The plane that was build AROUND it's main gun?

    Fuck man, I'd've picked the Thunderbolt.

    Or an AC-130. Spooky, man. Fucking thing has more guns on it than most people know *exist*.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:12 No.8563522
    I have just downloaded some air traffic control mp3s for my next campaign.

    Bratislava Tower, Bratislava Tower, this is Oscar Oscar Kilo estabished ILS 16.

    Oscar Oscar Kilo, Guten Tag, cleared to land 16, wind calm - and by the way: this is Vienna Tower.

    Bratsilava Tower, Oscar Oscar Kilo passed the outer marker.

    Oscar Oscar Kilo roger, and once more: you are approaching Vienna !

    Confirm, this is NOT Bratislava?

    You can believe me, this is Vienna!

    But why? We want to go to Bratislava, not to Vienna!

    Oscar Oscar Kilo, roger. Discontinue approach, turn left 030 and climb to 5000 feet, vectors to Bratislava.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:12 No.8563526
    AC-130, as discussed before, is USELESS in a high threat environment.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:13 No.8563539
    We discussed both these options and dismissed them for their extremely limited battle role and extensive logistic requirements.

    Also way above budget.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:14 No.8563545

    Hey, I never said it was a good idea, I just said I would've.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:14 No.8563546
    Make sure you get new york jake, he's famous amongst us controllers.

    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:15 No.8563555


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    I've never seen the old version, but the new OVA is pretty sweet.

    It's basically anime Top Gun, but I'm not complaining.
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros III !PhseAMrpPY 03/13/10(Sat)12:17 No.8563585

    I managed to down 2 of the sons of bitches and then I was forced to do a crash-landing.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:19 No.8563600
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    Go give 'em the Business OP!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:24 No.8563666

    >implying you're an air traffic controller

    I want this to be true.

    Here, something you'll like:

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    >only way to survive being shot down in a game without parachutes

    >epic fight
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros III !PhseAMrpPY 03/13/10(Sat)12:27 No.8563692

    *High fives*
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:27 No.8563693

    Fucken THIS

    Totally underrated movie
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:27 No.8563695
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    You can't fly away from these.
    They're faster.
    But you can kill the target radar when the missile is already airborne. It takes a few seconds to burn the booster stage.
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    Based on my time calcs, OP is currently flying and engaging the SA-2 at THIS VERY MOMENT!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:31 No.8563747

    How accurate was it dodging missles as shown in the begining of Beyond Enemy Lines?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:33 No.8563773
    Missiles hate turning. If you have a good angle, you can 'outmaneuver' a missile. But BEL is unrealistic as hell. Still a fun movie though.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:33 No.8563776

    That was total and complete theater bullshit. Missiles move at Mach 7. There's no long, extended tail-chase where the missiles are in visual range and following you around. Complete bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:33 No.8563782
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:33 No.8563785


    Yeah I did enjoy it more than I thought, Ruthless Tracksuit Guy was awesome
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:35 No.8563802
    What missile moves at Mach 7? Mach 4 at best.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:36 No.8563816

    >Ruthless Tracksuit Guy

    Yeah, esp. becuase most of the movie revolved around this One Dude running around on the ground, not their complete failure at depicting air combat.

    I also fucking loved that convo they had on the carrier, waiting to launch, about all the famous actors and musicians killed in plane crashes, and how they could start a successful business putting an end to that shit as competent pilots.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:36 No.8563822


    my bad, you're right. cocks, disregard, etc.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:40 No.8563874
    >How accurate was it dodging missles as shown in the begining of Beyond Enemy Lines?
    I know a guy in the military. He said that he saw the movie with some of his military friends. They were all laughing uncontrollably in the theater. Joking about how afterward the guy would return to base, and be in the locker room, and then close the locker door, and behind it ... THE MISSILE AGAIN!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:42 No.8563905
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    SA-2 Shoots!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:43 No.8563922
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    ...AND SCORES!


    Better luck next time OP.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:46 No.8563950
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    >afterward the guy would return to base, and be in the locker room, and then close the locker door, and behind it ... THE MISSILE AGAIN!

    I just laughed out loud, boisterously.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:53 No.8564052
    Reminded me of the Train from wrongfully accused.

    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:55 No.8564091
    Have some faith!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)12:57 No.8564119
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:06 No.8564205
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    Alamos? Is your flanker guy planning on facing Bombers or something?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:07 No.8564212
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    Surprised this wasn't on OPs list of planes

    Would be great for taking out runways, and looks dead sexy
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:10 No.8564245
    For all those mocking Russian tech:
    A declassified document of the CIA reports that in the first day of Desert Storm, on 17 January 1991, Scott Speicher's F/A-18C was shot down by a R-40 fired from an Iraqi MiG-25.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:16 No.8564310
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:16 No.8564317
    Me again.

    I've been reading about the Lockheed U-2.
    Fuck that whole thing sounds like some ridiculous shit.

    The wings create so much ground effect when it's landing that they have to chase the thing down the runway in a Ford Mustang so a guy can talk in the pilot onto the runway by eye.

    The damn things fly so high, the pilots have to spend an out de-nitrogenising their blood by breathing pure oxygen, or they'll get fucked up pressure sickness. And they have to wear basically a space suit. And they have to breath canned air on the walk to the cockpit on the ground, that space shit is so intense.

    And the controls are so sensitive for flying in such thin air that, down near the ground you need to be absolutely fucking hench to be able to steer the things.

    That is some mad shit, yo.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:17 No.8564329
    DO ZSu-23s have Radar?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:22 No.8564388
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    Bump for awesome.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:30 No.8564481


    Yes, they do.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:42 No.8564589
    You know, this game sounds awesome but the fact that no rules have been posted makes me think that somewhere right now the players are in fact running around with their arms extended making aeroplane noises and yelling.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:44 No.8564607

    You say that like it's a bad thing.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:45 No.8564620


    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:48 No.8564660

    Every time somebody uses explosive runes in my game, we all go

    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:54 No.8564754
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)13:56 No.8564776
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:13 No.8565069
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    Oh great! I just read up on those little fuckers. And I must say, they seem quite mean.

    With a 7km target radar, 1.5km accurate fire range, and 7km inaccurate fire capability, automatic radar aimed burst fire with HE and AP rounds in the mix, great firing arc and complete, if somewhat under-motorized mobility. These guys pack a punch.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:18 No.8565159
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    Nothing like the cute little manually aimed ones I remember from BF Nam.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:25 No.8565290
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:30 No.8565361
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    Bump for epicness
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:37 No.8565484
    Take off those canards before you leave this house. You look like a whore.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:41 No.8565546
    But daddy, all the eurocanards are wearing them :(
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:45 No.8565615

    I didn't raise my daughter to dress up like some slutty Eurofighter.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:48 No.8565657
    Be quiet and put your radar absorbing materials on, we're going to church.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:48 No.8565668
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    O hi thar.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:49 No.8565695

    ...you are not allowed to be friends with that Sukhoi girl anymore.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:52 No.8565745
    AA-10 Alamo is the most common Radar/IR -guided Air to Air missile in russian planes. that C model is the Semi-Active Radar missile. Probably took them if the MiGs get airborne.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:53 No.8565767
    Jesus, it shouldn't , but the mental image it conjured is just too fucking hot!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:54 No.8565780
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:55 No.8565811
    You're so typically old fashioned american

    All the other girls are wearing canards, even the eastern european ones

    Why do we always have to be behind the times? :(
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:57 No.8565846
    You say that like it's a bad thing
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)14:59 No.8565880
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    Slutty Eurofighter.
    >Hi there, pilot, wanna go to my place?
    Ditch that F-16, and I'll let you see my Fly-by-Wire.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:01 No.8565910
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    Dem Swedish canards.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:04 No.8565952
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    Look at those fucking Rafale's, sexy bitches just beg to have their air intakes polished hard.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:14 No.8566113
    Hey OP is it Mercenary Air Squadron you're playing? Seems to be the only RPG that might be what you're playing, just bought it from DriveThruRPG.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:16 No.8566147
    Possible, I heard them talkin about it yesterday.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:21 No.8566234
    HOLY SHIT I just opened the folder I just bought.

    Like a orgasmic cascade of .pdf charts.

    Fuck yes, I am in heaven
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:21 No.8566245
    Someone's cumming aircrafts.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:25 No.8566299
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    Have some hot night refuel over iraq.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:25 No.8566319
    Anyone know where I can download this?
    Sounds and looks good from what I've seen so far...
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:28 No.8566364
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    Fighter that never came to be ;_;
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:29 No.8566383
    $10 from DriveThruRPG

    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:31 No.8566416
    Too expensive, scan plz.

    I hope this threads still here when I get back from the mcdonalds.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:34 No.8566477
    No creditcard or paypal, so a scan would be mightily appreciated
    >> Cloverslug ಠ_ಠ !!WmutByiQXK+ 03/13/10(Sat)15:35 No.8566480

    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:36 No.8566512
    A scan would be awesome, just so I know what I'm getting myself into. From what I've seen it just looks like a really complex board game.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:36 No.8566514
    brb, buying it on e23 and uploading it for everyone.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:38 No.8566556
    Appreciate it, anon :)
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:38 No.8566559
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    You want to destroy some ground targets? I'm up for it bitches.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:42 No.8566630
    Go back Su, you don't even have guided muntions!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:43 No.8566647
    Or a radar...
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:45 No.8566678

    here you go chaps, enjoy
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:46 No.8566701
    Are these the rules?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:47 No.8566717
    Do not trick me gypsy woman. If this folder is fake I will be displeased.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:49 No.8566758
    Jesus christ, this thing comes in a huge fucking zip that's full of all sorts of shit. There's like a bazillion PDFs and two spreadsheets.

    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:50 No.8566767
    What anon said

    If it's the real deal however, I'm forever in your debt
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:52 No.8566790
    I'm the dude who just went and bought a copy of it just to upload it for you.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:52 No.8566793
    It's legit.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:53 No.8566798
    Thanks anon, looks interesting.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:54 No.8566817
    In that case, you have my gratitude

    Didn't want to sound impolite ;)
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:55 No.8566829

    My reaction when I bought it too. Still munching through the rules and trying not to get distracted by all the planes.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:57 No.8566895
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:58 No.8566911

    I read the thread, think how awesome this game sounds, and still wind up thinking about Dmitrys when I see Operation: Horse Therapy.

    No more /d/ for a while.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)15:59 No.8566938
    Fuck the random starting plane generator might give you a MiG-17 to start out with. The game is set in 2015.

    That's gotta smart.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:00 No.8566939
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    This actually means you have to take a break from 4chan.
    /tg/ is still prone to leakages from other boards.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:03 No.8567004
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:05 No.8567051
    You're on /d/-lite, I'm fairly sure I saw some Dymitrys yesterday here.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:06 No.8567059
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:07 No.8567078
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:07 No.8567091
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:13 No.8567218
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:14 No.8567233
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    I know this is more like a plane-thread, but this is just irresistible.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:17 No.8567276
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:18 No.8567298
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:18 No.8567317
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:20 No.8567346
    Is that an ekranoplane or whatever they're called?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:21 No.8567354
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:22 No.8567376
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    I think it is, according to the filename.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:23 No.8567395
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:25 No.8567445
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:44 No.8567812
    I don't know how I was unaware of this game until today, but thank you. This is awesome.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:47 No.8567868
    Merc Air Squad looks pretty good. Still gotta run through it all but so far looks good. Now all we need to do is get more aircraft and maybe get the WW2 version as well.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)16:55 No.8568010
    Has anyone archived this thread yet?

    And massive thanks to the anon who uploaded MAS :)
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:24 No.8568586
    I think its probably possible to cobble together stats for any aircraft you want with the options shown. It'd be easier if they just gave you a bigger list to choose from but meh...
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:26 No.8568624
    If OP is using this system the GM must have spent quite a bit of time coming up with extra shit. Either that or he found expansions we haven't seen yet.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:33 No.8568780
    the system does look pretty easy to modify. Also, looking at the publishers' forum it seems there was some additional material released for download but i can't seem to find links, anyone have this?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:39 No.8568870
    I think we're wrong to assume they're using MAS. It seems like more of a wargame than an RPG.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:42 No.8568936
    What what? Really? Time to start digging!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:46 No.8568999
    I've been looking around since the first thread for something like what OP has so far described and MAS is the closest there is. I'm not saying its a done deal and that they HAVE to be using MAS...all i'm saying is that its more likely than anything else atm.

    That said there's nothing stopping the GM from home brewing an entire system himself. I think the more likely option is using MAS as a base and home brewing a shit ton of extra stuff to take it from fuck awesome tier to god tier.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:53 No.8569113
    We've got so excited about this guy's game that by law it must have failed. I imagine tomorrow he'll post a report of the session and we'll see that the Mirage flamed out and crashed soon after take off, the Flanker suffered massive systems failure and crash-landed half way to the target, and the three remaining planes ended up blowing up a children's hospital.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)17:57 No.8569197
    Well I don't know about the flame out or systems crash but the hospital bombing does sound like something that could easily happen in Africa. Course the only target on the map they had that could possibly pass itself off as a hospital would have been the commander bunker. Still its possible I suppose.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)18:03 No.8569246
    If you can think of something really, really fucking bad then you can be sure it can happen in Africa, and in fact is probably happening right now.

    Lol Africa.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)18:20 No.8569535
    OP again, I'm back. Mission was a success, but had it's moments. Details to follow.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)18:25 No.8569601
    Fuck damn back already?! Details man! DETAILS!
    >> Token Black Guy 03/13/10(Sat)18:29 No.8569657
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)18:35 No.8569761
    F5 flight on the tarmac, engines hot, ready and waiting.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)18:37 No.8569789
    OP again,
    We decided that a dawn time on target would be best. The strike guy had been reading up and figured that if they had any shifts at all, that would be prior to a fresh shift taking over, and at the end of night shift, so lowest possible awareness. We then decided how to handle the strike package. We figured that the Flanker would hang back until the SA-2 was down. I was given the mission of taking out the SA-2, while a simultaneous strike from the F-111 would take place at high speed over the runway using runway cratering bombs. Then the Mirage and the other F-4 would sweep in, taking out the ZSUs and the fuel dump, while the F-111 climbed and circled back to the bunker. Following that, we agreed we'd stick around for 5 to ten minutes maximum, looking for targets of opportunity, while the Flanker gave us overwatch, then head back to base. That was the plan anyway.

    Steve handed us out aircraft data sheets, sort of like the one's in that MAS but different, there were some other things he add on them. We got to draw our weapons loadout (which was way cooler then it sounds) and Steve walked us through the basic mechanics, which, to his credit, weren't overly complicated, but I still ended up asking tons of questions druing the game.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)18:39 No.8569820
    yes yes go on.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)18:57 No.8570030
    OP again,
    I need to set the scene here, we're sitting around a table, and Steve whips out these massive poster size papers, and lays them down in his living room, moving the tables out of the way. He's got the Google earth map printed out on four of them, and on the other he has a larger scale map, which is labeled “BVR Strategic Map”, and gives us our plane markers, which we place on the strategic map, roughly 100 miles out. We'd been coming in nose cold he told us, and said that it was now entirely up to us what happened. He then flipped on some mix cd on which he had audioslave and some other songs, but overlayed with 'radio chatter' from I'm guessing combat aircraft. I didn't think it would be cool at first, but having that in the background just took things up a notch.

    I decided to go to mid altitude for my run (10000 to 280000ft) The Aardvark dove for the deck, and prepared to make a high speed run. The Flanker began to loiter, and the Mirage slipped back, still closing, but not as quick as me or the Aardvark. I closed to eighty miles, my RWR started to go off, and I made my detection roll, so I thought I was good. But then Steve put the source marker on the BVR map, and it wasn't where the SA-2 was. And in the next turn, at fifty miles out, Steve told me that not only had the source narrowed the search pattern to a track, but the source was moving.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)19:01 No.8570110
    why are you making me abuse my poor f5 key. It weeps for mercy
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)19:16 No.8570319
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    I'm pulling for you OP, hurry up!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)19:28 No.8570444
    OP again
    Before the mission, we had all agreed on radio silence, and Steve said that the Aardvark could also 'see' the radar source. Which meant it must be airborne. I turned away, and jammed on my afterburners, to go faster towards the airbase. The Flanker, having also spotted the emission source, turned towards it, as well as the Mirage and F4, following behind. Then all hell broke loose, the SA-2 radar lit up, and I was told that it progressed from search to track to fire control within about ten seconds. Which meant (again, asking steve what it all meant) that most likely an SA-2 was in the air heading towards me. Steve said my backseater would be telling me all this anyways. I figured waiting would be stupid, so I dumped two AGM-78s immediately, since I was inside firing range. The bad thing, was that Steve passed me a big book of missiles, and I saw this, which I hadn't considered. The SA-2 flies at mach 3.5+, whereas my AGMs do maybe Mach 2. So there was no time for the radar to go down. I dove, and at Steve's reccomendation, started ejecting chaph.

    The Flanker decided enough was enough, and turned on his radar, which meant that everyone could now see him. However, when his radar went on, the airborne radar source turned towards him, away from me. The bad news was that two new targets went on the board, one just off the runway, the other apparently 'climbing and turning' off the runway. The plan was going to shit. Luckily at this point, the Aardvark was just cresting the final small ridge, and flew a straight line down the runway, pumping off Durandals “left and right like fucking rice at a goddamn wedding' to quote the strike player. As he made his run, Steve told him that he could see dead ahead coming off the runway, a heat source, and on the runway, a moving shape, but that was it.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)19:30 No.8570457
    OP again,
    That's all I can do for now, I have to go out again for supper. I'll put the rest up when I come back, sorry to make you all wait. I really appreciate how much you gyus like this, and for all the help.

    Thanks for the MAS pdfs, it looks really cool.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:00 No.8570791
    archive plz
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:00 No.8570797
    >pumping off Durandals “left and right like fucking rice at a goddamn wedding' to quote the strike player

    Truly an image of beauty. Eagerly awaiting more
    >> Token Black Guy 03/13/10(Sat)20:14 No.8570945
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    >pumping off Durandals “left and right like fucking rice at a goddamn wedding' to quote the strike player
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)20:16 No.8570975
    For those who haven't looked at the publishers site yet.
    errata for MAS
    Overview and description of counters
    Example of play
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)21:42 No.8571913
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)21:52 No.8572108
    Dammit I want that story.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:07 No.8572375
    OP again, just got back, writing rest of session now.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:08 No.8572391
    F5 on afterburner
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:26 No.8572549
    OP Again
    The Aardvark peeled out low, to the left, away from the climbing aircraft. I leveld out just above the ground (barely made my roll), and travelled on the worst intercept line. The SA-2 must have lost lock, because my backseater called out that he had two missile trails pass above us, a little ways back. At this point we broke radio silence, and the Aardvark called off secondaries from the radar site, so I pulled back up to sniff around again. The other F-4 and Mirage, now were turning to line up with the field, and were coming in very fast, the mirage trying to find the ZSU-s. The flanker achieved a lock and let loose to Alamos at it's target, and a few tense moments later, saw a small flash on the horizon. The target track became erratic, and then broke up, and considering that a kill, the Flanker began a quick zoom climb to try to gain altitude. The Durandal's absolutely shitkicked the runway, and also produced a large fireball, but I'll get to that.

    Without warning, well, other than the radar detector screaming, two new targets popped up just as the Aardvark and I were coming in on the base, and the F-4 and Mirage were about 30 seconds out. A flurry of tracers reached out, and one of them found the F-111 briefly. I asked Steve if the remaining Harm's had a lock, and he said there were two sources, so I rattled off the last two at one of them, rewarded by one hit and secondaries. The Aardvark headed outbound to assess damage, it didn't sound good, power was down in one engine, and he was losing oil pressure fast. Then the Mirage and the Phantom came to play. The Mirage roared in, Brimstones roaring out towards the remaining ZSU like the fingers of an angry god. And they hit like a haymaker to the testicles, setting off the internal ammo and fuel, propelling the remains of the turret into the air.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:40 No.8572707
    OP again
    The F-4 went nose hot approaching the airfield, and immediately picked up two targets, one headed towards him, the other still climbing off the departure end of the runway. There was no chance at a shot on the closing aircraft, the F-4 passed well underneath, but he did switch to AIM-9s, and Jan shouted FOX THREE and sent them both at the heat source. Again, one of them missed, but not the first one, which flew true, and scored a proximity kill, the aircraft was losing pieces of airframe and spewing tons of smoke, beginning a shallow descent. The backseater also called out with a shout that there was a destroyed MiG-17 on fire inside a five meter crater on the runway. The Mirage continued racing outbound, close to the ground.

    The Flanker, having completed their climb, leveled out, and quickly called out to me that the enemy target was turning in my direction. I applied full military burner, but it was too late. Steve, acting as my backseater started shouting FLARE FLARE FLARE, and I complied. It partially saved me, along with a hard jink. However the heatseekers chasing me still detonated close to me, and my panel lit up (Steve started writing out warnings on it), slight engine problem, and my AIM-9s were reporting faults across the board, so essentially I now had no air-to-air. My backseater was shouting at me now, telling me the MiG-21 was settling in on my tail, and probably getting ready for a cannon shot.
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    >And they hit like a haymaker to the testicles, setting off the internal ammo and fuel, propelling the remains of the turret into the air.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:46 No.8572731

    You have both a gift for description and a knack for cutting off at the worst possible time. continue
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:53 No.8572857
    I'll never know, because out of fucking nowhere, two missiles dropped at 70 degree angles down onto the MiG, the last of the Flanker's payload. The fishbed didn't have a chance, it was blown into a thousand small pieces by the heavy Alamo missiles. I figured it would be best to evaluate my situation, and the Aardvark called in saying he was down to one engine, and was climbing about 20 miles away, preparing for a higher altitude bomb run. We figured we had done it, but then two more ZSUs opened up on the Mirage. They must have seen the HARM strike, because we didn't see any radars. It showed, since they both had trouble tracking the hard maneuvering Mirage as it bore down on the airfield, launching the last Brimstones. It was almost anti-climatic, as the ATGMs slaughtered the mobile anti air guns.

    However, Steve, being a dick, threw another curve ball, and told us that another SA-2 style search radar was operational, and looking for targets. It was off to the east of the base, the F-4 was already on a run at the fuel dump and couldn't correct in time, so he abandoned his run and turned slightly, and began dumping rockets at the SA-2 launch area. Unfortunately he couldn't count fireballs, but he certainly tore into the launch area, and probably bought the mirage the time it needed to make the turn, and come over the area, pickling off 1000 pounders and also sending a volley of missiles at the new radar (we later found out it was a mobile radar, parked next to the local village.) The radar truck did not survive, and the Flanker pilot, who was well within the kill zone for the SA-2 breathed a sigh of relief. After that, we did a few more strafing runs, although I didn't bother, with my semi-buggered engine. As we turned to depart, the F-111 sent a final “Fuck You” with two GBU-15s on TV guidance at the bunker complex.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)22:59 No.8572927
    I think you're going to need to take whoever does your intel out back and beat them with sticks. I recommend fresh-cut willow, for its springiness.
    >> Token Black Guy 03/13/10(Sat)23:00 No.8572944
    Seconded. They need to get their shit together.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:01 No.8572966
    Shouldn't that be Fox Two? Or did I miss a post somewhere?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:02 No.8572984
    We all made it home, although the Aardvark suffered multiple hydraulic failures on the return flight, and was forced to dump all remaining ordnance, and belly landed (no crash though, airframe recoverable).

    Air Kills
    Flanker: 1 MiG-21
    F4: 1 MiG-17

    Air Incidentals
    Flanker: 1 J-7 (Sudanese Air Force)

    Ground Kills
    Aardvark: Runway, MiG-17, Command Bunker
    F4: 4 SA-2 missiles, 1 Barracks
    Mirage: Three ZSU-23, Fuel Dump, 1 Mobile Radar
    Me: SA-2 Radar site, ZSU-23

    Ground Incidentals
    Mirage: 3 Houses, local food market, 2 Trucks, 1 Car, 6 bicycles

    Damage Taken
    Me: Minor Engine, Minor airframe
    Aardvark: Major Engine, minor airframe
    Mirage: Negligible control surface.

    I think that's everything.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:03 No.8572998
    I'm guessing OP forgot, but you are right. IR launch is Fox two, not three.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:04 No.8573005

    Those. I'd also like to suggest a tube sock full of Valencia oranges.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:19 No.8573041
    >Mirage: 3 Houses, local food market, 2 Trucks, 1 Car, 6 bicycles


    >Flanker: 1 J-7 (Sudanese Air Force)

    Oh wow. Shitstorm incoming.

    And yeah, the frenchies really need to sack some intelligence people. Also, I wonder if you're breaking even after that clusterfuck. The final fuckoff gift from the Aardvark was a nice way to end it, though.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:24 No.8573067
    >Mirage: 3 Houses, local food market, 2 Trucks, 1 Car, 6 bicycles


    >Flanker: 1 J-7 (Sudanese Air Force)

    Oh wow. Shitstorm incoming.

    And yeah, the frenchies really need to sack some intelligence people. Also, I wonder if you're breaking even after that clusterfuck.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:27 No.8573086
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    Way to go OP!
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:28 No.8573096
    clearly the free intel info was worth every penny
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:30 No.8573140
    Guess who gets to cover the repair bills? At least if they don't want an Aardvark pilot and some Hellfires paying them a personal visit.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:31 No.8573153
    A surgical strike conducted with a chainsaw...

    Still, for a first sortie, not bad. Everyone got home in more or less one piece. All the objectives were taken out, all air defenses knockedout. Little overkill.

    All in all, pretty nice OP.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:33 No.8573189

    You forgot the little detail with the not so positive collateral damage and that they just started a war with Sudan.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:37 No.8573238
    come on OP where are those rules?

    great story btw
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:38 No.8573257
    blame sudan for collateral damage
    they cannot deny their presence in area
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:39 No.8573265
    OP again
    The consensus we had was that next time, we buy intel, since it's cheaper then planes. We also pitched in for the Aardvarkk guy, since he took the most damage, to help pay for repairs. My own repairs are actually fairly cheap, all things considered.

    According to Steve, the GM, the J-7 kill doesn't really go against us. The sudanese don't know who did it, and if they investgate, they'll find it, and remains of MiGs and a destroyed airfield. Also, according to ROE, we were fine with the j-7 kill. No bonus for dropping it though.

    We actually came out ahead. There were kill bonuses on doing additional damage to the airfield, and the air defenses/aircraft were all mission bonuses. Steve said we pretty much rocked the mission, despite the way shit hit the fan.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:46 No.8573298
    I'm sure France will apply a little pressure on the Sudanese. I think OP got away clean. The collateral damage made me laugh though, bicycles?

    Sucks that you probably killed civilians though. Fuckin evil to put a SAM radar truck next to households.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/10(Sat)23:49 No.8573328
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    Phantoms kicked ass!

    /tg/ Knows how to pick em!
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)00:01 No.8573376
    Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules

    we needs them
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)00:04 No.8573438
    OP again

    Steve said he is getting all this stuff together for us, I'll share when I have it.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)00:10 No.8573541
    Thank you. Much appreciated. Spam it when you get it.

    When will you get it?
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)00:18 No.8573679
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    How many beers you buying the Flanker pilot oP?

    I'm out for the night. Waiting on those rules, based on your description they sound awesome.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:08 No.8574516
    Flanker kicked ass all over the map!
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:14 No.8574616
    Only because the Aardvark was a bullet magnet and OP toasted the S\am.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:17 No.8574682
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    Post all the 40k you want.

    Today /tg/ is made of awesome and win.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:18 No.8574693
    OP's group is awesome and they should feel awesome.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:25 No.8574804
    OP should have run nothing but gunpods, AGMs, and AIMs. Gunpods are for people who don't mind a little down and dirty action. Course with an F4s horrible turning radius pods wouldn't have done you much good if you'd gotten into a dog fight at low level.
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    >nothing but gunpods, AGMs, and AIMs.

    As opposed to rocks and sticks?
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:36 No.8574951
    Meh. He had the SAMs covered and the other guys had the rest of the ground targets covered so he could have ditched the Irons and gotten something else...like pods. ECM or extra flare dispensers would also have been a good investment...especially for future missions.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)01:37 No.8574971
    This is the fourth thread. OP and the others in these threads have made me regain faith in /tg/
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)03:10 No.8575451
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    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)05:34 No.8576889
    So badly want those rules.

    SO badly.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)05:36 No.8576919
    Agreed anon, let's hope Steve or the OP posts/uploads them soon
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)05:45 No.8577012

    That game is so huge, shitloads of planes and missions...too bad most of the planes all feel the same with only differences in weapon loadouts. It's still a fun time though.

    There are shitloads of mods out there for it, including some cold war mods that add nuclear weapons.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)06:46 No.8577639
    OP should just tripfag himself "OP again"
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    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)10:48 No.8579628
    I've been thinking that, I think he started using it as a signature as time went on.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)10:54 No.8579687
    what game is this called?
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)10:57 No.8579730
    "OP is a douche for not getting us the rules yet because I've been nursing a semi for 5 days now waiting for this game"
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)11:00 No.8579764
    So basically you're in the same position as I'm in. Nursing a boner the size of an 18-wheeler for MODERN WARPLANES: THE ARR PEE GEE
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)11:04 No.8579798
    It always stuns people when they find out just how big that gun is. Most people seem to think it doesn't go past the nose.
    >> Maus 03/14/10(Sun)11:06 No.8579826
    It still stuns me every time I remember/look at how big it is compared to a Volkswagen.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)11:12 No.8579889

    It stuns people and kills tanks. Now that's a weapon!
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)11:12 No.8579901
    The ammo drum might be as big as your VW.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)11:14 No.8579923
    In the mean time, check out In Harm's Way: Wild Blue on /rs/. It's a mercenary air pilot RPG.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)13:29 No.8581215
    Thats a lot more complicated than MAS but I doubt thats what OP used. Still, an interesting find. thx anon.
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    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)14:32 No.8581966
    Bump for life!
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    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)19:10 No.8584785
    Where's the interest gone /tg?
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)19:23 No.8584828
    It's gone to the same place the ability to post went.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)19:29 No.8584926
    Anyone else having difficulty posting these past 14 hours?
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)19:30 No.8584949
    Yes its getting pretty hard to post for some reason
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)20:29 No.8585314
    Is 4chan under attack?
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)20:30 No.8585339
    perhaps by a merc squadron that thought it was hitting a hospital.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)21:28 No.8585780
    geeze what let down. Come on OP, get back in here and give us what we all want.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)21:54 No.8586184
    I want to be able to post reliably on /tg/ but apparently that isn't happening.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)22:02 No.8586319
    /tg will work itself out here in a while. just stick around.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)22:57 No.8587126
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    Thats it. I'm callin it. Time of death 9:47 PST. Cause: lack of OP input and excessive time without new posts.

    I'll be watching for the next one.

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