Kill yourself.

Did we lose anything else? And what equipment do we have?

>forced to dump it's MS complement and escape.

No wonder Zeon lost.

You're MS was still under repair when the combat drop went down and you lost contact with the MS compliment over the village of Don Martin.
The Outer Heaven escaped the combat zone and landed on the open plains to the North East of the village. However, sporadic contacts with local air assets have revealed aside from the fact that friendly air assets are losing the battle against the enemy, enemy ground forces are descending on the town in a pronged assault.

Your Dom has just finished being repaired, and your on your way to hanger now.

CHOOSE YOUR LOADOUT.

>>8451729

Be fair, we had a man on the ground to save, and dropping the MS seemed like the best way to force the guy plinking our ride to move away.

>>8451734
Standard zook,90mm and reloads should be fine

>>8451734
>>8451755
Actually change that. If there is any container we can take with us load up on as many reloads as possible for our squad, as it is likely they are low on ammo by now

Oh and when I say "Dump"

I mean "Emergency Combat Drop"

Yesterday we had Elaine's scenario, much fun was had.

>>8451667
You first.
>>8451729
Bad wording on his part. It was a combat drop. They were going to engage Feddie ambushers. He DOES need to work on his spelling/grammar/word use though.
>>8451734
330 Bazooka + reloads
90mm MG + reloads
Smoke Grenades

We should make also sure the OH prepares to take out the damn after a hot pick-up.

>>8451776
This + this >>8451765

We need to get more ammo to our squaddies.

>>8451755

Add in some Panzerfausts. We don't know if there are more enemy MS in the area.

>>8451765
This

>>8451776
Right the dam. Once we link up with our guys on the ground we should see if we can draw the attacking Federation forces into a better location below the dam.

Question from last time:

How many Dodais does the Outer Heaven carry?

>>8451776
DO THES

>Actually change that. If there is any container we can take with us load up on as many reloads as possible for our squad, as it is likely they are low on ammo by now

Unfortunately that would require some time to put together, which you don't really have.

>>8451776
330 Bazooka + reloads
90mm MG + reloads
Smoke Grenades

Plus some Panzerfausts as >>8451828 suggests.

Okay you load up and dpeart from the landed ship.
The plan is to meet up with the friendly forces, lead the enemy into a good spot, and then mount back up on the Outer Heaven whilst it pops the dam.

Sounds good?

Keep in mind that whilst some stopgap repairs have been made, the Outer Heaven is still damaged, and a concentrated air attack may destroy it. So as the air battle deteriorates further away from Zeon, the worse the Outer Heavens odds of being able to extract you becomes.

So time is highly of the essence.

>>8451960
Probably only the 1 unfortunately, they're not small.

>>8451960
One less than it did before.
>>8451776
>330 Bazooka + reloads
Ok
>90mm MG + reloads
Ok
>Smoke Grenades
Oh. We can cover our escape with these.

We need to take an extra gun to replace the one Zol handed over.

AND WE MUST RECOVER THAT TRASHED GUNDAM!
WE.
MUST.

>>8452089
Sounds like we'll need to get hovis loaded first via the topside bay and have our MS retrieve the busted Dodai. Then the rest of us can get aboard via the underside main bay.

>>8452089
>Unfortunately that would require some time to put together, which you don't really have.
Note to self: have Ookawara rig up resupply drops in near future.

>>8452089
Well, is there a crate or rack we could toss reloads in and carry with us, we have hands on the MS after all. If we have to toss it to be able to fight so be it, but it would be a good idea to at least have the chance to help our squad rearm

>>8452222

Good point.

A further suggestion: As we are so big on combined arms, shouldn't we get an organic infantry unit as part of Nachtmaren? A platoon and maybe a couple of Wappas should fit on the Outer Heaven. And now that we are Lt. Commander we may have the rank to pull that (plus we have Garma's ear of course).

>>8451734

wow the units grown scince i was last able to post 0.0

>>8452317

Yeah it's got its own mothership and everything.

You are currently heading south west towards the last known contact with your Recon specilist Calvin Hobart before his Dodai riding E-3 Zaku went down.

The terrain is open, scored by trenches deep enough for your suit to be partially obscured by. You keep alert and scan the horizon for any hostiles. In the sky you can still see the air battle continue, as well as numberous black plumes of smoke from fires. It looks like large portions of the woodland areas in front of you have been set on fire. This might make travelling to the Dam difficult.

apologised, I noticed you having some trouble with the ventral bay in other episodes. (Dont worry, lots of people mix the 2 up.)
Dorsal means topside, ventral means underside.

Luckily since this is a custom version of the Zanzibar we've got bay doors on both! lol

>>8452418
Use the heavy smoke provided by those fires as cover, and lets try to quickly move our way up. Time is of the essence.

>>8452418
wow, its been a while, mind if i rejoin?

>>8452418
>This might make travelling to the Dam difficult.

More like make it easier since the feddie aircraft will have a harder time seeing us. Mind you the reverse is also true.

>>8452418

Use the trenches for cover. Advance along them at top speed until we are at Calvin's last position (or parallel to it, guess he didn't do us the favor to come down directly in our trench...)

>>8452479
Agreed, keep moving fast. If we sight enemy forces, take a shot at scouts and straggles but keep moving, if it's a larger force avoid and keep running.

get in contact with calvin, tell him we are dropping near their location. if we are spotted by a large group get the hell out of there. Otherwise use or 90mm on them. If we encounter any other mobile suits though we use the zook

Basic plan: meet up with Elaine and Zol. Use superior speed of the Doms and Gouf Custom to bait the Feddies into following us into the riverbed. Pop the dam, rendezvous with the OH.

If that would take too long, or if Zeonic air cover is about to completely disintegrate, pop the dam and extract the unit, don't bother with luring the Feddies into the riverbed.

>>8452924

Shouldn't we all stay together once we link up? If we leave the support unit behind while we do such a high speed maneuvre the Outer Heaven will have to land twice to extract us all. I'd rather not have half the unit stranded behind enemy lines because Fontaine deems it too risky to touch down a second time after popping the dam.

>>8452980
In that case, just go with option 2. While luring Feddies into the riverbed would be nice, it isn't essential; what the dambusting really does is it cuts the Feddie supply lines/line of retreat, and if we're really lucky also washes out at least part of the road they're currently using.

>>8453074

I'd say yes, we just rendevouz and wait for pick up. Until the Outer Heaven arrives we have the support unit shell Don Martin (hopefully they are already doing that) and engage any Feddie units that advance on our positions. Hopefully that will slow them down a bit and leave them more exposed to our dam busting antics.

>>8453250
Just remember, last time Jolyne said she only had enough ammo for one more fire mission, and Hovis was down to 50%.

>>8453301

50% means he's still got atleast 100+ shells for the main gun, plus missiles.

Jol unfortunatly will likely be guarding him with her 90mm

How fast is the Rhino compared to Federation tanks?

What I mean is: Could we probably do our riverbed raid accompanied by the Rhino? Or would Hovis slow us down too much?

>>8453474
If it's even half as fast as the Hildolfr, it'll be twice as fast as a feddie tank.

>>8453474

And a hundred times more survivable.

Wow. More than a hour and no update. Guess I'll go get some work done.

Sorry, I had to go for dinner, and then I didn't feel well.

Anyway.

After travelling at high speeds for about 5 minutes you reach the outskirts of the forest area, whilst the flames don't appear to reached this part of it, you can still see smoke up ahead.

As you journey further inside towards the last known position you come across a large area of forest, ablaze.
The whole area appears to be on fire, and only a small cliff that you had to jump over is preventing the fires from spreading further.

Whilst the flames don't appear hot enough to cause the Dom to overhead or all of the ammo your carrying to explode, it will still strain the heat sinks of your hoverjets and make targeting difficult.
Your infrared sensors will also be completely useless. On the plus side, with all of the smoke, air units will be unable to spot you.

Alternatively you can skirt around this fire though this may increase your journey time. You are still not able to get into contact with the rest of your unit.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8453715

I say we go through the smoke. We'd be easy pickings for enemy air cover.

We'll just have to take it carefully and trust in the skill of our squad.

>>8453715
Time is of the essence. Go straight through.

>ZEONQUEST Pt44
Seriously?

Maybe we can use our hover jets in sort of a skipping motion.

We sort of glide, then run, glide then run.

We walk without rhythm... we wont attract the feddies... <_<

>>8453715
Is it just me or does that thing in the pic look like Emerald Weapon/does Emerald Weapon look like that thingin the pic?

David Lister: Zeonic Firewalker

>>8453795

You said the exact same thing at part 32 you know.

>>8453765
>>8453740

You forge ahead through the fire and smoke. After about another five minutes you come across a set of MS footprints in the ground. You spot them because you first notice a 120mm Zaku MG on the ground, there are several small craters about the area, it looks like their was a firefight. Although a closer inspection of rifle reveals that it has been shattered by an internal ammo explosion. You suspect the original owner had to toss his weapons because they were cooking off in the heat.

You inspect the footprints, they don't appear to be of a Zeonic pattern, and appear closer to Federation MS footprints. Like the ones you encountered in Arizona.
They are heading in the general direction you wish to go though.

DO YOU FOLLOW THE FOOTSTEPS?
OR KEEP GOING IN THE STRAIGHT DIRECTION?
OR ALTER YOUR COURSE TO AVOID THE FOOTPRINTS?

>>8453831

There's a pic somewhere out there of how Gundam and FF7 plagarised off each other.

>>8453895

We follow. If we can pick off a straggler.... then.... eheeheehee....

>>8453895
Follow.

OOC, this is probably where Ramirez had to abandon his weapons.

>>8453895
Follow the footprints but stay a good bit off to the side. Who knows if they left any mines or anything. to trip up people following.

>Like the ones you encountered in Arizona.
All of the MS we encountered in Arizona were captured Zaku II's.

>>8453918

You opt to follow the tracks. They lead through about 2 more minutes of burning trees before finally making way to forest and hills.
The tracks are still followable and you opt to do so. Overhead you can clearly see that the Feddie air-power has the upper hand. Friendly Air squadrons will probably be disengaging within the next 10 to 15 minutes. You don't have long.

You speed ahead. After a short distance you find a federation command tank, it appears to have been sheared in half by a heat axe. You cannot see any survivors or hostiles in the area.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8453975

Quite right: I meant New Mexico.

Specifically: Wyatt's Zanni prototype.

>>8453989
Shit, we followed the tracks the wrong way! I think. Whatever. Hmm, continue our backtrack? Uh, I say go back.

>>8453989

Pick up tank halves, make a puppet out of them. Show to squad later.

Kidding, we press on, we keep an eye on the sky, and try and establish contact.

We see any targets of opportunity, we burn them down, max aggression, maximum speed.

>>8454027
On second thought, we have no reason to believe that we're going the wrong way, so I guess we should continue.

>>8454027
That's what I was thinking atfirst too. Did Ramirez hawk the CMD tank after he dropped his guns? Either way the feddie tracks should lead to wherever we're going.

Move faster.

>>8453989
Full speed ahead. If we don't find anyone from the squad in the next five minutes or so, extraction is going to become very difficult.

>>8454063
>>8454031
>>8454070

Choosing not to investigate further you opt to press on. To your left a flock of birds is startled and takes flight. You think you can see movement to the North West (you're heading south-west at the moment)
Deciding that you haven't the time to play with Federation ground forces you move on. Your hoverjets may raise plumes of dust that the enemy may spot, but you don't have time.

You track your way through the sometimes rough terrain following the rough route that the enemy MS took. It appears to be going in roughly the same direction as Calvins last contact.
You follow it for five minutes when you think you spot movement ahead of you through the trees. You carefully use the cameras in your hand as a perscope to try and get a better look. In the distance you can spot an enemy Big Tray battleship and you THINK you see enemy ground vehicles up ahead.

You do not believe that either have seen you yet.

Also, taking down a Big Tray all by yourself is probably beyond even you.

That said, whilst the tracks go this way, the last known contact was a little bit further south than this and you could change directions and head there directly.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8454226
Try and skirt around them. Do what we can to minimize contact.

>>8454226
Head south, we don't want to tangle with that Big Tray

>>8454270
Awww, we don't want to try to take out the Big Tray by ourselves. It would make a heck of a story for the next bar night

>>8454226

Head for Calvin's last position. Keep an eye on the direction of the enemy.

>>8454293
charge through the enemy positions

use smoke to cover your advance

stay frosty

>>8454348
your not RAMIREZ

but that would be awesome

>>8454293
>Awww, we don't want to try to take out the Big Tray by ourselves. It would make a heck of a story for the next bar night

Compared to the time we won against the Black Tristars in Zero-G MS scale Basketball? Or the time we beat Rear Admiral Dozle Zabi like a drum in a mock space battle?

>>8454279
>>8454270

You move away from the tracks you were following and head directly south. Your pretty sure that the enemy forces you've encountered are now tracking you, but they can't catch up with you, and so far you haven't had any unwelcome air attacks from upstairs.

Another 5 minutes of travel and your reach the scene of a large battle. Parts of the forest are on fire, the wreck of a destroyed federation MS can be seen, and after a short period of searching, so can a discarded 90mm SMG.
You find hovercompression tracks that you recognise as from Hovis's Rhino. It looks like after the battle here they left eastwards to the open plains and the Outer Heaven.

God, it WOULD be just your luck that they get back to the ship fine and dandy whilst you get cut off here.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8454419

lets head to the plains, if we can't make it there its dam time

>>8454419
if the gun has ammo pick it up,

continue on our path towards extraction

>>8454419
If there's anything we can quickly grab from the Feddie wreck, do so.

Then head east, following the Rhino tracks.

>>8454419

Follow the Rhino tracks, they're having all the fun without us.

>>8454444
>>8454467
>>8454472
>if the gun has ammo pick it up,

The Gun is empty.

>If there's anything we can quickly grab from the Feddie wreck, do so.

Nothing appears salvagable. Everything appears to have cooked off when the suit was destroyed. Even the armour is shredded, although the frame remains relatively intact. Damn this must be some sweet alloys it's made out of...

You follow the tracks hoping to catch up with your team, also to escape the enemy.

You follow for another ten minutes when you spot a low flying wing of 3 Fly Mantas fly overhead, they make no hostile action against you, but seem to be in an attack run at something up ahead.

Now that you look up you can see a few more planes and a whole lot of flack coming from there.
Do you wish to alert the fighters of your position by trying to shoot them out of the sky or continue onwards?

Try to extract the head/cockpit of the MS. Knowledge of the enemy computer system and whatnot is the most efficient thing we can gain while remaining able to escape.

>>8454589
continue onwards, keep an eye on the feds but take no action for now. The longer we can remain unnoticed the better.

>>8454589
Shoot them out of the sky. They're going to come after us at some point, so we may as well take a few down before they know we're here. And it'll help take pressure off of whoever the Feddie planes are shooting at.

Shoot them down. They are flying low, unaware of us, and are on an attack run. Even if we don't kill them all, the confusion caused will be enough for us to evade any counter they would try to launch.

>>8454596
+1
>>8454589
can we jump to get in close to them, and sword them to hell... ie save ammo

but i vote we take en down

>>8454589
>although the frame remains relatively intact

Should have snagged part of the frame.

If we're not carrying that dead weight then shoot those planes down. 90mm.

>>8454617
>>8454628

You pull out your 90mm (no need to use the zook) and spray a burst at them two go down and a third takes wing damage. It loops around and disengages. Before enemy air assets can assign some irritants to you, you break a clearing and see the rest of your squad.

Most of the flak fire appears to be coming from the Rhino, which has a wrecked, headless mobile suit strapped to it. Elaine is holding her bazooka but doesn't appear to be firing it, Zolomon is spraying bursts from his 35mm wrist vulcan and a Zaku (who you take to be Corporal Janson) is trying his luck (with little success) at taking down enemy fighters with his shotgun.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8454834

Seems like a good time to leave, to me. Can we call in the OH and get out, or will we need to move somewhere else first?

ALSO, where's Jolyne? I'm hoping she's not in the wrecked MS on the Rhino.

>>8454834
attack the air units on sight now, and reunite with your squad

>>8454834
Move to support, hit on female of choice, begin fighting retreat.

Also, new Autosage limit of 300... think we can hit that?

>>8454834

Oh. Sorry forgot to mention Jolyne.

She's flanking Hovis taking shots at the enemy with her shoulder cannons and her 90mm SMG.

Whoops.

>>8454834
Make our way towards them, shooting any enemy aircraft we can hit on the way.

>>8454834
Toss smoke grenades to provide cover for the squad. Ask for a sit rep, redistribute weapons/reloads as needed so everyone has at least one usable weapon.

>>8454834
"How's it going? Thought I'd stop in and check on you."

Also enquire about Jol.

>>8454882

Easily. First time I did a Zeonquest thread with Noko on, we got the thread up to 800 posts.

Do this
>>8454886
then do this
>>8454892

>>8454882

I don't know about you guys but I like Jol alot more than rubbens. Just saying

Where's Calvin?

>>8454955
Probably the busted MS. Hopefully, otherwise he's elsewhere.

>>8454955
>>8454892
>>8454886

Sorry. You spot calvin back to back with Ramirez, firing at enemy units with his 90mm.

You dash into the middle of the formation and toss a couple of smoke grenades to obscure you from the enemy.

"Well, it looks like someone had an eventful evening." You comment.

"Sir! We were on our way back to the Outer Heaven!"

The smoke will dissapate quickly, and the enemy units may blind fire into the mass of it anyway.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8455014
retreat to the evac point...

fire on the enemy at will

DONT GET BOGGED DOWN!

>>8455052
This.

>>8455014
I agree with >>8455052. Make for the OH as fast as possible.

Also, warn everyone that we spotted an enemy tank battalion coming up, accompanied by a Big Tray.

>>8455014

Yeah, Outer Heaven is a good bet, besides that frame strapped tot he back of Hovis's Rhino....

I think its time for Lister to buy a round of drinks.

>>8455160
No drinking before we give the Feddies their water.

>>8455052
>>8455071
>>8455103

With the smoke obscuring your movement, you order the team to move out. You all quickly make your way out of the immiediate area under cover of smoke.

Soon however the smoke clears and you find your tree cover thinning out. You continue to push for the Outer Heaven, and quickly find yourself on the open plains. The lack of cover that kept you safe before is now your enemy as it reveals your team from the air.

"Sir! I'm back in laser communications with the Outer Heaven!" Calvin informs you.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8455103

A battalion? Really? (Rereads.) More like some ground vehicles. Probably tanks. But no idea how many.

Still, head back to the Outer Heaven. Calvin should make contact with Fontaine as soon as possible, so that we can do our dambusting and be the hell outta here.

use the rhino for AA fire to keep the air craft buisy, continue to fall back and have the slower MS jump abord the Rhino if possible so we can use its speed and it as a steady weapons platform so they get better shots

>>8455207

if the doms can do it grab the slower suits and charge full speed towards the lz

>>8455207
Keep everyone spread out, evading, and moving as fast as possible. Make sure everyone has a weapon to fire with. Concentrate on volume of fire to disrupt the Feddies, don't try to concentrate on a particular target or worry about scoring kills

>>8455207
As Han Solo so eloquently put it: GET BACK TO THE SHIP!!

>>8455210

>A battalion? Really? (Rereads.) More like some ground vehicles. Probably tanks. But no idea how many.

It might be. We do have a full division rampaging about Mexico at the moment.

>>8455207
As an add on, have the OH lift and get in position to blow the dam now. If it looks like fed airpower is going to stay with us the whole way, have the OH blow the dam now and run. We can either try to cross the new river(if the rhino is up to it) or evade into a an area with more cover to loose the aircraft.

>>8455207
Calvin patches us through to the OH, we tell them the situation and ask if there's any nearby cover we could use to load up. Once we're on board, we blow the dam and then vamoose.

>>8455207

Request the Outer Heaven to bust the dam, then pick us up on the way out. We will hold here until they arrive.

>>8455210
Given that there is a Big Tray there I wouldn't guess less that a battalion of tanks, or a company of tanks + an MS squad for security

>>8455307
>>8455309
The problem is if the fed airpower follow us the whole way in the OH won't stand a chance. Better to have it move now and try to evade the feds on our own. Remember they still haven't hit our main defense line, and if we can tie up some of their forces trying to run us down so much the better

>>8454834
>which has a wrecked, headless mobile suit strapped to it.

So they managed to capture one relatively intact? Sweet!

>>8455297
>>8455309
Changing my vote to the proposal of these gentlemen. We should still ask the OH if there's any nearby cover to load up in, though.

>>8455374
>Headless

Mono-Eye Gundam confirmed for Zeonquest.

>>8455244
>>8455262

You start distributing your extra ammo to the rest of the squad as best your able.

"Remember; tight, controlled, bursts." You remind your squad.
You all spread out but keep on the move, scanning the skies for the enemy.

Soon, they appear.

Your combined flak fire manages to keep them away for a little while but that just encourages them to come back in bigger numbers, then they start high speed strafing runs.
Luckily by keeping on the move, most of the missiles miss, Hovis takes a couple of knocks, but his newly repaired armour takes it okay.

This goes on for about another three minutes. You manage to kill about three more fighters yourself whilst the rest of your squad has mixed results.

At which point you scan the horizon, you spot about 6 Depp Rogg heavy bombers coming your way, and two Big Tray battleships have just cleared the treeline, numerous tanks milling about them.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8455564
Ask them just who the hell they think we are. Then run like fuck, try to get in contact with the Outer Heave and pray they're on their way to evac us. We need to get some cover from the Big Tray's guns, out in the open like this we're fucked.

>>8455564
MOVE FASTER.

Shoot at the Depp Roggs, bazooka rounds and shells on the Big Trays, both of these things while we run for the OH as fast as possible.

We advise the OH of the situation and warn them that we're probably going to have to load on the move.

>>8455600
this
>>8455564
and SPREAD THE FUCK OUT

>>8455564

... so uh... the antartic treaty is more like a guideline... right?

Crazy plan: Their bombers can't carpet bomb us if we are riding on their Big Trays riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

>>8455564

Has the Rhino's main gun the elevation to reach out to the Depp Roggs?

Also, contact the Outer Heaven to perform their dambusting run. We will keep moving and be ready for pickup as soon as they are done and we can reach a (relatively) safe extraction point.

>>8455656
"AvP2 cliff jump to dropship"-ending confirmed.

>>8455650
No, but that plan would require us to get to the Big Trays without being literally cut to pieces by massed tank, aircraft and Big Tray fire.

If the riverbed is nearby, we get across it pronto.

>>8455656
Forget the bombers our MS guns can deal with those. We have line of sight with two Big Trays! Turn the Rhino around, drive backwards and direct fire some 300mm into the bridges of the mothers!

>>8455564
Can we ask the Outer Heaven to attempt to give us long range fire support while we starting running like heck?

>>8455703
They'll never see it coming. But you are right, the riverbed is a much better place to try it.
After we've blown the dam.

Our surfing skills will come in handy.

>>8455714
Also, the Dom's bazooka. Ship-killing was what the Doms were originally built to do.

>>8455714

Our normal weapons might be able to deal with them when they are close and attacking us. My fear is they are on an attack run on the (still grounded?) Outer Heaven. So I'd like to take them out at range. Now.

>>8455772
Depending on how much there is and how much cover we can get, cutting through the forces to reach the Trais may work. Or just shooting them with the Doms.

>>8455656

You ask about the dambusting run.

"Lt. Commander! Fontaine doesn't think he can make an attack run at this time! The enemy air cover is too heavy!"

You keep moving towards the ship whilst you concentrate fire on the enemy Depp Roggs. As they continue to close in, they spread out and begin to drop their bombs. It looks like they're after you rather than the ship, also, you're guns are out of range. Only Hovis's guns seem to have the range (jolyne's backpack guns have now run out of ammo.)

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8455864
Where is the OH in relation to our current position? And how far away is the dam?

>>8455864
Have Hovis shoot while Elaine tries to pick off some planes. Advance cautiously, doing more dodging than charging.

>>8455864
Switch to bazooka, that should have the range. Guns get used to intercept the bombs. And we keep running.

Ohh also, we should take notes on the Feddies reliance on massed formations.

We need to develop our tech accordingly.

>>8455864
FFFFF- Kill the bombers then. If Hovis has ANY ammo left after that unload it into the nearest Big Tray. Since the Rhino uses Hover skirts he can do this while moving in reverse towards the Outer Heaven.

>>8455935

Maybe target the lead Tray, it should slow down the other one...

>Where is the OH in relation to our current position? And how far away is the dam?

The OH is about 5 minutes away at your current speed.

The Dam is about 20 minutes through forest, hills flame, tanks and Land Battleships.

>>8456007
Screw the dam. Lets get the hell out of here. Can we have the OH fly at us with heavy suppressive fire to allow us a rapid boarding action? I mean, even if we have to leap onto the dam thing, it would still help us get out faster.

>>8456007
Alright, make for the Outer Heaven. We need to make our way to Laredo for the main battle.

>>8456035

You mean have it fly to your postion?

>>8456007
Make for the OH. We can try for the dam later, after the Feddies are retreating from Laredo. That's when blowing it will be most useful.

>>8456035
>>8456046
that position being hammered by land battleships and carpet bombed to NAM... i think thats the place

>>8456046
It flies towards us as we move towards it at top speed. That should cut the time down to 2-3 minutes at most.

Hovis turns the Rhino so that he can shoot at the Big Trays while he runs with us. We start using our bazooka on the Depp Roggs.

AHHHHH FINALLY FOUND IT!

>>8456046
Head for the OH. We don't want to give the enemy the opportunity to drop it.

>>8456098
Yeah, this seems like a good plan for what I was considering.

>>8456098
Nevermind. I second Kemal's plan.

We've sure managed to attract EVERYTHING the Federation has. Maybe they got pissed about their MS team.

Which is good, gives our forces time to regroup. Maybe even lend us a hand here.

>>8456288
We are in effect white base for a little while just in reverse.

Apologised, how has this giant assault affected cannon? I find it hard to believe they can pull Odessa off with this and no assault guntanks

>>8456074
>>8456067

As the bombs and the shells begin to fall you call the Outer Heaven to Evac you post haste. In the distance you see the ship take off.
Explosions shake the ground around you as you continue to keep yourselves on the move. You see an explosion knock Ramirez off the ground, dirt obscures him for a second but after wards you see him up and about, limping thanks to a severed leg cable.

Man, you sure don't miss THAT happening to you all the time.

Your armour is buffetted by a close explosion, and you struggle to stay upright, but the superior thrusters and balance of the Dom keep you stable.
Things are looking bad until several ruby-red lances of light spear two Depp Roggs, causing the rest to scatter.

It's AA turrets firing in all angles, the Outer Heaven comes to your rescue.

"Commander! Get aboard!" Anita calls.

You all scramble aboard the dorsal and ventral entry ports. As your secured into the hangar, the ship rocks from side to side, sounds like the ships taking yet more hits.

"We can't stay here! All power to the engines, let's get out of here!" You hear Fontaine bark out.

You feel the ship bank sharply as it swings around, and then the familiar sensation of being pushed to the side as the ship accelerates away.

You disembark shortly afterwards.

>>8456490
Assault Guntanks weren't even in canonical existence until last year, so they pulled it off without them. And these are the forces they used to attack California Base. Odessa was most of their European and Asian forces.

>>8456502
Onward to Laredo, then.

>>8456502
Sweet. Let's get to Laredo where, hopefully, we can get some serious Repair and Resupply in preparation for dealing with all these Feddies we just encountered. We got away with the headless MS right?

I think our problem wasn't playing this on loop while in combat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CbhKpCHHNI

>>8456502
We always seem to run when we either lack artillery or air support. How is Zeon doing on having a not craptacular fighter so we can actually not go to spess

>>8456490
I do remember us capturing an Assualt Guntank prototype early on. Apologized has said that due to that setback and probably with all the work on making their own MS, the Federation probably isn't going to bother developing Assault Guntanks. So yeah.

>>8456502
Lets check out the sweetness that we took with us. A nice present for our Engineer.

>>8456636
It will need a proper Mono-Eye Head.
And maybe new limbs. But we will have our Zeonic Gundam(s).

Also, we will need to check up on our other forces in the area. Can we counterattack/drive the Feddies towards a good drowning spot and blow that fucking dam?

>>8456599

How come Zeon bothers to make and ship their own tanks to Earth anyway? There's Type 22s aplenty. Just capture their production lines and churn them out like the Feddies do.

>>8456670
We'll worry about that when we kick their ass into retreating.

If we ever need another pilot for our force, I think I have a pretty good candidate.

>>8456599
The Dopp is actually great for what it is...A Light Interceptor.
The logical choice here is something of a Super Dopp to better match up with Saberfish and Depp Roggs. Much less Core Boosters.

Of course in the end Mobile Suits end up completely replacing most of them anyway.
Unless our Combined Arms tactics REALLY take off of course.

>>8456733
Well from what we see, Mobile suits never really become all that GOOD at the air superiority role. And for one of those fancy transformable MA that the Titans field you could probably get 20-40 Core Boosters with beam weapons. Our combined arms theory aint all that bad really.

;_; Hovis wasnt able to kill any of the Big Trays.

>>8456774
So you think maybe we should talk to Garma and Dozel about pushing some funds into a more advanced air-superiority fighter?

>>8456912
Yeah, that definitely wouldn't hurt. Maybe we can redirect some funding/research time from some of our stupider MA projects. I'd like most of our Experimental MS research left alone, however. Daddy wants his Kaempfer.

>>8456951
Yeah, buncha people have been talking about that and something called a Gelgoog. What are they?

>>8456977
>>8456977

http://www.mahq.net/Mecha/Gundam/msgundam/ms-14a.htm

Delicious delicious beam weaponry...

>>8456670
Nah, No mono eye, The Dual eye system is superior, The only reason to use Mono eye is if the head is broken.

Kampfer is likely the fastest MS of the Universal Century in atmosphere, not sure about space though. It also has fuck-heavy weaponry for being so quick. The main issues is very high fuel consumption and weak armor.

>>8456912
>>8456951
You know... the Adzam has potential if we were to take one of those appart and build it into say... 8 fighters each with 2 mega particle cannons.

>>8456977
The best MS Zeon mass-produced during the war. Armament and performance-wise, about a match for the RX-78-2 (at least without including Amuro in the equation). In canon, it came out too late to make any difference, and most of its pilots were raw recruits being thrown into battle to try to stave off the Federation advance.

>>8456977

A Gelgoog is basically the Zeon version of the Gundam.

A Kampfer is a super high speed, super fragile assault MS.

>>8457028
>Kampfer
>super fragile

I wonder how fragile ANY MS would seem if somebody pumped some 90mm Depleted Uranium into it.

>>8457063

Gundams and Doms hold up pretty well. Anyways, it's canon that it was designed with light armor as a possible doctine to deal with beam weaponry. After all, it doesn't matter how much armor you have if a beam weapon goes through it anyways.

>>8457015
>Nah, No mono eye, The Dual eye system is superior, The only reason to use Mono eye is if the head is broken.

Get out of this here Zeon military you.

You...

Scum!

>>8456786

It would have been nice, but despite all our kills on them, Big Trays are crazy powerful if they get you in their sights. I wouldn't fancy our chances against two in open terrain at all.

>>8457015

Leave.

Now.

>>8457028
>>8457024
>>8457017
>>8457000
Thank you very much. A quick question though; is developing new designs a better idea than just upgrading existing ones? Like, putting out new improvements for things like the Gouf and Dom? By doing that, many parts would remain interchangeable and you wouldn't have to spend so much time with R&D. Not knocking creating new suits, I'm just curious.

>>8457017
Because one Kaempfer didn't wipe out a 5 man team consisting entirely of the Fed's most advanced Mass Production suits by ITSELF in like 2 MINUTES.

The Gelgoog is a mass produced High Performance MS, with statistics roughly around that of the Gundam. It is also a very good suit. When we snag a Gelgoog, I definitely wouldn't mind a Jaeger, if at all possible. That thing is a BEAST.

>>8457093

>Double Feddy!

Fixed

>>8457015

Well, dual eye systems are better if all your cameras are in the head. Most MS have cameras in various places, and the one(s) in the head are just for long range use.

>>8457120

Zeon actually did that eventually, it was called the United Maintenance Plan or something. It had to do with upgrading most existing MS and making part swapping easier. It'd be nice to get it going earlier.

But we totally need Gelgoogs though!

>>8457020

>>8457175
Chill, we've mentioned this to the higher ups multiple times, and specifically mentioned adaptability to the Zimmad MS Development people. Hopefully the next time we get to talk to Garma we'll be able to make some more recommendations.

>>8457216
Problem is reactor size, I think, Arty. Also, they didn't make too many Adzams. 1 or 2, or so I thought.

>>8457175
But, but, I LIKE the Dom! I dun wanna get a new suit...

Apart from what MS to get once they are ready:

I really suggest we add an infantry team (preferably Wappa mounted) to the Nachtmaren unit roster.

(Some organic air support would also be nice, but I doubt the Outer Heaven could cary any more... ;_; )

>>8457268
Dom is dope. But in space the Gelgoog is ridiculous. We're still a LONG way off from the Gelgoog though.

>>8457267
Yeah size in an issue, but they'd be considerably more possible once Zeon gets E-Cap tech. As for the Adzam... wouldnt it really have been good for anything? I'd take 8-16 advanced beam weapon equipped fighters over 1-2 Adzam's anyday.

Man... next time we see Wyatt, after we beat him like a snare drum, we need to tell him to tell his superiors that Nachtmaren thanks them for such a nice gift.

At that point, we best damn be in a Zeonic gundam.

>>8457294
For what purpose? For anything other than Security/Special Ops it doesn't seem like it would accomplish anything.

>>8457319

Well, it was also a testbed for Minovsky Craft technology.

>>8457319
Totally agree with you. If we're still on Earth when we get E Cap tech (Which means a lot.) that would be cool. Adzams suck. But we may very well be back in space at that point. Then its MSMSMSMSMSMS with a smattering of MA.

>>8457323

Recon, urban fighting, security (as you mention), sabotage & special ops.

Also, on a more general note, we consider ourselves the spearhead of moving Zeon towards a combined arms doctrine. So why the heck aren't we a true combined arms unit?

>>8457420
Because we don't really have room. If our formation size increases, then its ok. Combined Arms also means using MS and MA in concert, which is something Zeon did not do. Anyway, with the savage beating we gave Dozle and Shin at Pezun during that mock battle should indicate that our thoughts on the subject are going to be very likely acted upon.

So did Apologized die or something? It's been almost an hour since his last post.

>>8457323
Well they're small and quick, and if they can jink their way around fire and stick a few breaching charges on the legs of an enemy MS, that would be helpful.

>>8457518
That's a possibility, but with the current Fed. Forces still consisting mostly of Type 61s, Fan Fans, Big Trays, and the like they would probably get dead pretty quickly.

The Outer Heaven rumbles on as you all make your way out of your mobile suits.

"Great, more work for me." Ookawara grouses.

"Hows the team looking overall Ookawara?"

"Well, I'm out of ammo for Jolynes 180mm until we resupply, the Rhino's forward port hover skirt is ruptured so it's out of action until that get repaired. Your Dom's okay, if a little scuffed, Elaines Dom's seen better days, but it's not too bad, just some bullet holes here and there. Zolomon's lost the last shield we had for him. Again it's mostly stuff we that we just need to resupply for. My real concern is the ship itself."

"How bad is it?"

"It took too many knocks in Chihuahua trying to do that strafing run. Everything after that has only made it worse. The ships in bad shape all over, and that ISN'T something we can just resupply."

"So? Where do we go to get repairs?"

"Nearest to here? New York or California."

"Fuck."

"You'd best get upstairs while I see if this bucket of bolts is going to make it that far."

You head upstairs.

>>8457473

I see us not having room for fighters. Or tanks. Or additonal MS/MA. But I guess we should have room for a platoon of infantry, who are trained to working besides our MS/MA formations.

It worked wonders during the Jaburo assault and our subsequent withdrawal.
We also have a great record working with specialist infantry assets managed by Incognito.
I say its time we get some of our own.

>>8457561
Oh, yeah, but I meant for missions when we know or have intel that we'd be up against enemy MS.

>>8457568
Ask him what he thinks of the enemy MS? Is he positively giddy at the aspect of being quite possibly the first Zeon technician to ever pry open a Federation Mobile Suit?

>I really suggest we add an infantry team (preferably Wappa mounted) to the Nachtmaren unit roster.

I second that. We desperately need some additional reconnaissance forces. The Flipper being either unable to see whatever's going on on the ground or being unable to radio back to us because of Minovsky particles is a real pain. Wappa should do fine. They can either go in closer without becoming too much of a high priority target or work as mobile transmitter stations for laser communication between the OH and the Flipper.

>>8457568
No more direct line strafing runs like that guys.
Seriously, we're from space, we should understand the concept of an orbit better than most. Still, you'd think the armor on a cruiser would be tough enough to take more than 1 180mm shot.

>>8457650
This was back in Chihuahua. Where it strafed the entire feddie push. Meaning companies of AA tanks firing at it. It might be able to take a few 180mm shells, but even a battleship can't stand up to that kind of punishment for long.

Which is kind of ridiculous; I'd think battleships would have meter think hulls at the least, more than enough to withstand pounding from even 200mm shells for minutes on end. I guess they just don't bother because of enemy ship beam weapons that can eat through armor anyway?

>>8457568
So just checking, but we did grab at least some sample from the wrecked feddie suit that we encountered when no one was actively shooting at us right?

The one D. Lister commented in game was built with impressive metal, and has been encountered before, but the prior sample was incomplete?

And several people posted suggestions ranging from grab the whole body to at least a part?

>>8457568
Why isn't our friendly engineer busting a nut over the captured Feddie Suit? Eh, he's probably way too busy. So I guess we're falling back to California Base? Or we're getting dropped off at Laredo and the OH is returning to Cali base?

You reach the command deck.
Anita salutes.

"Well, THAT went well." Fontaine complains.

"From the reports I'm hearing we DID manage to take an enemy MS team AND manage to salvage one of their chassis."

"Yeah, but we've taken even more damage and wasted even more supplies, to do so. I'm telling you David, unless I get direct orders, I'm taking us off the combat roster once we get to Neuvo Laredo. This ship is just to badly damaged. If your team can be brought up to fighting strength then we'll deploy you, but this ships going to need long term repairs after this..."

The ship rocks in a somewhat less than encouraging manner.

"Hell, I'm not even sure this ship will make it that far."

You peruse the tactical situation with the updates from command. (Pictured) The orange X's represent areas that the Mad Angler Unit has attacked the left Federation force.

The forces there have been partially delayed, but they're staying away from the coast making further attacks difficult to impossible. In any case the attacks have diverted the forces to Tucson, and forces from either side are redirecting troops there to attack the enemy from the sides when they arrive.

You have about an hour before you arrive at Nuervo Laredo. Anything you want to do?

We should drop off at the next Zeon stronghold that can repair our suits and send the OH to Cali Base.

>>8457913
Debrief our team, and inform them of the OH's status. Assist with repairs, if possible, and go over Elaine and Zol's Guncam Footage during their MS fight.

>>8457913
Personally investigate the feddie suit. Take up close looks at it. Try to determine any weak points.

And definitely agree with Fontaine; the OH needs repairs. Once they drop us at Laredo they should high-tail it somewhere safe and once the battle is over we can all go to NY of California for the repairs.

>>8457913
>>8457940
>>8457973

This, also bring up the fact that we'd be interested in acquireing a Wappa borne infantry recon squad.

Heres hoping we get some badass soldiers. :D

>>8457940
This would probably be a good idea. California base should be slightly closer and Garma may be nearby. He might get a look at that busted Feddie MS we bagged and the footage of what it took to beat them.

From here we can help the local Zeon forces kill those Big Trays and generally screw things over for the Feddies. If things get finished off here we catch a ride to one of the other areas via transport.

Could we loop around, drop off a single MS squad (all undamaged/least damaged suits) and start our long overdue campaign against the Federation supply units/convoys?

>>8458041
Again, I fail to really see the relevance of infantry on Wappas. While cool, and possibly mischief making, their only real purpose is to scout. We should hold off on mentioning it until after we've dealt with the Feddie attack. And the OH is going to be out of commission for a bit, so we'll have plenty of time for it later.

>>8458090

Oh, well yeah, I meant later.

But a dedicated spotter/ force recon infantry?

With dedicated anti MS and anti tank?

With the ability to spot for us?

Force multiplier indeed...

>>8458062
The answer to that question is nope.

>>8458090
Agreed, the infantry idea is a decent one but should wait until the battle is over

>>8457913
Talk with the team, see how they are holding up with this constant action. See how the new guy is doing. Find out how fast we can be brought back to a useful fighting strength before we are dropped off ahead of the Feddie push and start organizing a defense to silence this right hook once and for all.

Since the left prong got really hammered and we are devoting more forces against it in an effective manner, I have high hopes for its deflection. Unless the MS we killed was the crazy guy the Wyatt Bandit was referring to, and he has been sent to the left Feddie prong "front". Which would royally screw us over tactical-wise.

>>8458147
They don't have a dedicated anti-ms and anti-armor ability. The only thing they can do is MAYBE plant explosive charges on their way in. They have to stop to fire anything of consequence.

>>8458090

Forgive any Settings ignorance, but wouldn't infantry with man-portable ATGMs at least be able to pop tanks and target joints on hostile MS units? or infantry with MANPAD systems be able to support us in light of our apparently dismal air support?

>>8458184
Don't work due to Minovsky Particle interference. We had a conversation about Wappa Infantry and their capabilities before the Jaburo attack, IIRC.

>>8457913
Debrief the rest of the squad on what happened while we were still on the OH.

See if we can help keep the OH afloat.

Other than that, not much we can do.

>>8458207
If we are stuck here for awhile fighting on the front line though they could still be used to spot for our artillery and report on enemy movements.

>>8458207

so that interferes with even wire-guided ATGMs or IR/lazer systems for MANPAD?

>>8458246

These no, but anything else will be screwed I believe.

I know that the Feds have a large antims MS TOW launcher..

>>8458246
To some extent, yes. Aside from interfering with EM radiation, it also trashes any electronics that aren't sufficiently hardened, and hardening something to that extent is hard to do if you also need it to be man-portable.

>>8458246
Yeah. Interferes with everything.

>>8458246
Most wire-guided Anti-MS missile systems are too heavy for a Wappa (at least the Fed one's in IGLOO were).

The best tactic for Wappas is to fly up to a MS and directly plant remote charges on it. It is a frighteningly effective method of destruction actually given it could have been used to kill Amuro if it had been remote charges instead of timed.

>>8458286

>>8458300
Clarification: Weapons need to be hardened in order to operate, increasing their size and expense considerably. They don't have anything that is functional and deals enough damage, that is small enough to mount on a Wappa.

Also, the OH is going to make for San Antonio first for emergency repairs. It's going to have to take the long way around to Cali, given that the most direct route would send it right through the furball over Tucson, and we want to make sure it can survive the trip without something critical breaking down.

>>8458246
It's technobabble created SPECIFICALLY to justify mechs being feasible. If man-portable AT devices worked, it would be very easy to take down an MS, and since MS cost much more than tanks there'd be no point in making MS instead of tanks and other conventional forces.

Or at least, that's what I understand on the subject.

>>8458295

ah, ok.

>>8458167
He's probably being sent to Chihuahua. It would be the easiest for him to get to, and the Feddies know we were seen in the area.

>>8458335
I don't think those are wire-guided. I also don't think a Wappa would be a stable enough platform for those. Now having one of those stowed on a Wappa and then landing to fire it might work. Would probably be suicide for the infantry doing it though.

>>8458356

when we get there, we should bribe the engineers there with offers of alcohol to see if we can get priority.

>>8458400
Suicide is the key word in that sentence.

>>8458356

I concur. It's safety is the Priority right now.

>>8458342

Wait, what about anti-tank rifle type weapons? You'd have to upscale them to 20mm or more, but using APFSDS rounds, it'd be able to damage joints, etc, and should still be man-portable, without having to worry about any electronic screwing, cos it's a purely mechanical system.

>>8458436
You would have to have a perfect shot from a moving, zipping, jinking man-portable hovercraft, and even then there's a chance it won't get through the machine's armor. Especially against Fed's, with their advanced Chassis materials and what not.

>>8458436
Also: Still probably too large for the Wappas to use without landing.

>>8458405
We aren't going to San Antonio. The OH is dropping us in Laredo and then continuing to San Antonio and points beyond without us.

>>8458468

...kinda sounds like infantry is basically dead useless in anything other than a purely recon or SF role in the setting then.

>>8458530

I was thinking we could adapt something like the feddy hovertanks, and turn it into a portable anti armor platform that supports infantry.

>>8458468
>>8458479
Be good to have to deal with enemy tanks, who also can't turn as quickly. Figure, speed up behind a tank, land, burst off a few AT rounds, power up and speed away before the turret can rotate. Hit an run. Would it work on MS? Probably not, but it sounds like it might be good for Zeon forces on a whole, by giving us another weapon against the enemy's massive numbers of tanks.

>>8458530
Essentially yes since MS are basically super infantry. Don't count them out though since smart infantry can turn the tables in the right environment.

>>8458530
Pretty Much.


Also, anyone else think we should shanghai Ramirez as a temp. addition to our squad? Sure, it's a Zaku IIJ, but he looks like a decent pilot. At the very least, he's got "Not dying" down pretty well.

>>8457982
>>8458044

You outline the plan to Captain Fontaine.

He agrees that after they land in Nuerdo Laredo, and drop you off they'll return to California. From there you'll be working with the defence line.
After the battles over, you'll have to make your own way back to California.

After about an hour of worrying noises you eventually land in the city. You can see Zaku Tanks scurrying around creating MS scale trenches and defensive emplacements. The entire city is a hub of military activity.

You land at 4 in the afternoon. As you and you tech crew disembark, Fontaine salutes you.

"I'll see you California Lieutenant Commander."

"I'll be there."

With that the two of you turn and march back to your respective commands.
The day isn't over yet.

TO BE CONTINUED.

We NEED an omake or two.

>>8458609
Huzzah! Good session chaps. See you next week!

>>8458573
Should see about getting his machine upgraded to an F2 at some point if he's going to stick with us.

>>8458609
So... Is the middle prong still sitting pretty in Chihuahua?

Let's not forget that Ramirez was pretty fucking Rambo out in that forest. Down to just his axe and still fucking shit up.

I'm definitely for him joining up with NMC

>>8458675
Well you know, it just so happens that we have a spare Zaku F2 back at California base...

>>8458609
Here we will hold the line. Here we will not let a single Federation soul cross. Here we will crush their thrust with a hail of steel and blistering fire: blunt their advance with the sheet fury of our defense. If we have to eventually beat our swords into plows, then lets do it over a Federation head. So lets fight for peace on Earth and Space. Fight to drain their resolve. Fight to Win. For Zeon.

>>8458609

Every time you end one of these Apologized, I keep playing this in the background

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj6VxFGS5TA

Well, looks like next weekend we'll give the Feddies what for!

>>8458804
With me it's more this: http://www.youtube.com/user/ikarugan1984?feature=mhw4

>>8458926

AHahahaha

>>8458926
OMAKE OMAKE OMAKE

>>8459049
>>8459049
*Cough*

>>8459049
>>8459128
Given the timeline, I expect that today's omake would be "Mobile Suit Gundam, episode 1"

>>8459243

Which means we have only a few days untill White Base jumps onto North America.

>>8459243
The only Gundam I've ever watched was the two Gundam Seed series and Gundam 00. Is the old/original Gundam series that this quest runs off of any better? I doubt I can find any active torrents of it.

rolled 4 = 4

>>8459280

Very, very much better.

Also torrent: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=78639

>>8459280
.

>>8459358
I'm man enough to admit my shortcomings, at least.

>>8459280
>00
>bad
OH U

But the UC gundams vary in quality a whole lot because there's just so much. Every single one of them is still better than Seed.

rolled 4 = 4

>>8459318
>>8459358

tl;dr, SEED is average, SEED Destiny is utter shit, 00 is average/sightly above depending on the season, and the original is miles ahead of these three.

>>8459396

>>8459280
The entirety of both of the original series and Zeta Gundam are streaming for free on Anime News Network, and will be until April 20th or so.

>>8459410
Seed was interesting, but got boring quickly. Destiny was utter crap - the characters were much worse. Picked up 00 hoping for something better, and was disappointed. Did enjoy the one redheaded comic relief character in that show though.

Then I ditched Gundam altogether and enjoyed Ergo Proxy.

>>8459394
And so the misogyny count rises...

>>8459480
It depends on how far you got in 00. Season 1 starts off pretty blah and builds up, then HOLY SHIT WHAT JUST HAPPENED and is great from there.

>>8459410

The original TV show really isn't. The movies improve that production so much its really fucking scary.

I honestly don't think tomino gained any idea about how to pace a story and conduct characters consistently till the late 90s, which thankfully gave us turn A.

The UC world itself however is amazing and you won't be dissapointed with how detailed a setting it is.

>>8459396
Even ZZ or G-Saviour?

>>8459510
Watched both seasons. The ending of the first was interesting... it just got unbelievably cheesy in the second season. "So... the character just turned into particles and reappeared somewhere else... mmk..."

Best comic relief characters I've ever seen were from Baccano! - the male-female robber duo. Loved them.

rolled 3 = 3

>>8459547

ZZ got reasonably good int he second half; it's just the first bit that was shit.

G-Saviour is automatically discounted from any and all discussions and comparisons by default anyway.

rolled 4 = 4

>>8459592

A *lot* of the things from SEED, SEED D and 00 have clear roots in earlier UC and occasionally non-UC Gundam shows. Who usually did them better. Basicallty, watch the old ones. They're generally a lot more interesting and have less LOLWUT.

>>8459547
G Savior is AMAZING (as a Sci Fi TV movie)
People would love it or at least say "Wasn't G Savior Cool," if the mechs weren't Gundams/it was an original universe.

rolled 1 = 1

>>8459667

I'd disagree with that opinion, but i'll leave it at saying that I found it to be a poor movie overall or i'll be ranting about it all day.

Omake?

>>8459768
Its what I've been waiting for, but since its been an hour, I doubt it.

>>8459667

If G-Saviour was atleast an AU some of the arguments about it would go away, the technical continuity problems with that movie make 0083 look 100% technologicaly sound.

>less LOLWUT

Thats not very fair the amount of LOLWUT in Zeta/ZZ/CCA/V is enormous, the OVA's and F91 generally have less clouding the issue due to how much UC varies.

Thinking about "LOLWUT" in gundam is an odd thing as really G and Wing probably come out as the lesser of the mindpowered swords/lolparticals bullshittery. Seeing as G handwaves it with being a Super Robot show and Wing has only lolimpossibleballistics.

rolled 5 = 5

>>8459898
I meant less LOLWUT as in there's more stuff that's actually attempted to be explained or given some sort of justification, even if it is just technobabble. Example, Minovsky Physics in UC is fleshed out and explained in icnredible detail, aiding suspension of disbelief as long as the universe follows its own laws, whereas the writers of SEED and 00 seem to be making shit up with little regard to what it does to the continuity and consistency of the universe.

At least, for now. I'll grant that UC has had a long time to work the bugs out, although the newer ones aren't helped much by their pants-on-head writers.

There remains a distinct lack of omake in this thread. I lack experience writefagging in this setting or I might consider it.

>>8460318
It's not happening. Accept it.

For those interested in seeing the Gundam TV series, Bandai's put the whole thing on Youtube for free.

http://www.youtube.com/show?p=AixyDrpSv9s