OK. They're made of goo so they can probably fit under doors and shit.

You said their insides were acidic so that could work as a touch attack. Something in the range of 2d6 acid damage. Oh and a level adjustment of +0. There ya go. Perfect!

They must be able to infest and control people.

>>8350843

Oh good idea! A natural possession power.

>>8350826

Why touch attack?

Assuming the 3.5e namespace, it's not like acid always hurts you.

Also, attempting to design some magic cards.

Assuming G/W G/B?

not at all nicely templated, so don't bitch about it

Slimekin Armorcrush
2G creature- ooze warrior
regen G
when ~ blocks or is blocked by a creature, destory all auras and equipment on said creature.
1/1

>>8350843
Sounds kinda overpowered. A racial mind-control? Bit much.

>>8350892

There's no such thing as over-powered!

Simply under-challenged!

>>8350892

assuming 3.5e I guess.

It would require training to develop it in order to be useful in combat.

"Slimekin" is kinda cheesy for a race name...

how about "Jellax"?

>>8350911
>>8350843
>>8350855
Maybe not mind-control, just forcing their body to do stuff. Like the Thorian in ME1.

>playing your slimegirl fetish
Don't be That Guy. That's usually the province of furries.

>>8350987
same effect, different fluff. Either way, it takes character control out of a player's hand, and that's always tricky to balance.

>>8350980
>jellax
>lax
>laxatives?
Because that sounds so much better.

That said, I don't have any suggestions.

>>8351045
Could go with the jap name for the character, "Jamanen"?

>>8351082
Hm. Better.

Also, they need to have a natural semi-disguise power as well.

Gellin?

>>8351122
This is obvious, yes. But close inspection would give it away. Ooze is still ooze, after all. Changing color or texture is easy, but keeping concentration to maintain a specific look and shape other than one's "natural" one can't be easy to do for long...

>>8351199

>>8351199
>Papyrus typeface
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

how about instead of a racial type, we make it a prestige class? and instead of calling it "slimekin" let's call it an "Oozemaster."

>pic related

oh fuck, you guys are fast. all done then, i suppose.

>>8351319
not even close to the same thing, chucklenuts.

>>8351043
>>8350843

While giving them a mind-control type power as a racial ability seems a bit overpowered, I do like the idea of mixing something similar into their backstory/fluff, with such an "infection" being one way (other than the usual mitosis) that they propagate their race - by absorbing and converting other humanoids into more of themselves. Kinda like how some undead on older D&D editions could turn whomever they killed into another undead like them... but nobody's gotta die. Adds a nice subtly spooky flavor to the race.

>>8351432
forgot picture...

>>8351349

it's plenty close as far as gameplay is concerned. seriously, you can jack off or you can play some PnP. pick ONE and do that.

>>8351319
that class is horrifying! HORRIFYINGLY BAD

>>8351492
I've never found slimegirls particularly arousing, but I would love to play more exotic races like an ooze beast than gay ass Tolkien ripoffs.

>>8351534
And people like you are why we're making this thread.

I was wondering when this thread would get made, we had some decent ideas last night.

>>8351006
As this guy said, this race should be an actual solid player race, not "lol fetish". We pulled it off with Lamias, we can do it with slimekin.

Statwise, I think they would have at least a bonus to constitution, and penalty to charisma, as they're well... oozes.

Don't think they should be able to turn fully to liquid to fit under doors... seems too powerful, and not all oozes are pure liquidy, most have some sort of shape-ish, or just can't squish that much.

>>8351545

you may as well change the name from "slimekin" then, because this endeavor has absolutely no hope of being taken seriously if you continue using it.

i don't see what's so wrong about "ooze" either. it already refers to a veritable rainbow of multi-hued amorphous blobs, why not place yet another under its wide umbrella?

>>8351545
they theoretically could, but too much compression and they basically lose coherency and start to disintegrate. Kinda like if you chew a mouthful of jello, you eventually stop having a mouthful of jello and instead have a mouthful of koolaid.

I think the previous thread said six-inch-diameter hole was a reasonable minimum-size.

>>8351199

I was thinking of including some fluff to say that Jamanen (a name I like, because it reminds me of jam) can change their "natural" shape, but it's more like how aging changes you with a bit of a response to "subconscious" stuff

>>8351612
I think we went with Jamanen... it's still got kinda a shout-out to the "ooze" thing what with the jam/jelly reference, plus it sounds kinda fantasy-ish.

>>8351612
Because "ooze" isn't exactly descriptive? We're making humanoid-ish slimes. Basically the slimegirls, except making them a serious race. Slimekin was just a name someone threw out there. Calling it "ooze" is like making a player race called "aberration".

>>8351642
Jamanen does sound neat. Different name, instead of (type)kin, or (type)people.

>>8351629

There's also the fact that Jamanen use standard humanoid stuff, so if you go through a 6 inch hole, you aren't set-up to swing a sword or staff afterward.

I'd thinking more octo level abilities, but without natural stuff being enough.

>>8351545

How about counting it as one size category smaller for escape artist and the like.

>>8351642
I'd say they can change shape easily. But making themselve look convincingly like something/someone else instead of just a mass of goo shaped like the thing they're imitating, that's where it gets tricky... Shape is easy, details are hard.

>>8351757

At best, I think that Jamanen would have lorwyn changeling type mimicery, which doesn't confuse people, but does confuse magic.

Also, a fuckton more smart.

>>8351757
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. They have "hair", but it's just a general shape of hair, nothing else. Probably most Jamanen wouldn't even have different coloured slime where their hair would be.

>>8351545

I think it should be something like an octopus. So they can fit into small crevices, but how long it takes depends on the size of the hole and the size of the slime. So if it is a hole the size of a basketball in a wall, the slime can get though pretty quickly. But if it some crack as wide as a playing card in a thick wall.....it might take so long, it might be more time efficient to find a way around.

Inspiration from DA.

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=jellax

>>8351816
Well, among primitive oozes, they're all single-color, right? So why would Jamanen be different?

As a sidenote, I just noticed the name Jamanen also lends itself rather easily to its own possible derogatory nickname (like how orcs are called "greenskins" or halflings are called "midgets") ... Jam-men.

>>8351938

I think that's more of a function of being a humanoid made of colored slime in fruity colors.

>>8352001
well, I suppose, but the name fits either way.

>>8352027

Oh, I definitely like my fantasy race names to be subtlety descriptive.

Posting a MtG card design because...

I don't know

Jamanen Necrist.2B
Creature- Ooze Wizard 1/1

2B, Exile Jamanen Necrist: Return target creature card in a graveyard to the battlefield. That creature gains haste until end of turn. At the beginning of the next end step, sacrifice that creature. If you do, return Jamanen Necrist to the battlefield.

Templating stolen from Shifty Doppleganger.

>>8351938
>Well, among primitive oozes, they're all single-color, right? So why would Jamanen be different?
I dunno, artistic liberties? Yeah, I know it wouldn't make sense.

What kind of society would the Jamanen have? If they have asexual reproduction they would probably be very spread out and individualistic. If they require other Jamanen to randomize their... uh, genetics? Or whatever they would have.... then they might have family units and some sort of social structure.

I most likely in most settings they wouldn't be integrated into society very well, and if they are asexual individuals, they would probably be survivalists, having no one to help them live.

>>8352173

Personally, I am going to have to insert my fetish of fantasy with family units and say that they have extended families.

Not sure exactly how reproduction would work, but the mammal format would be pretty easy, and allow for Jemanen to identify as male

>>8352237
>Not sure exactly how reproduction would work
I figure they wouldn't have sexes, what with the not having organs and all. Probably just do... some sort of sex to randomize their genetics for the next generation. Think Asari from Mass Effect. Except... gooey.

Without any genetic diversity it would pretty much create a dead end for their race. Then again I guess it wouldn't matter, since they can't get diseases, and mutations probably wouldn't be too bad.

Speaking of which, Jamanen would need immunity to diseases and poisons (at least, non-supernatural ones).

>>8352173
well, I imagine most, like the slimes they are descended from (we gotta think up an origin for these guys, BTW), commonly reproduce by dividing...

...however, there always the concept proposed in >>8351432 where they can introduce variations into the mix (as even the best cloning method eventually degraded past usability, and a stagnant genepool is weak to disease and climate changes) by converting other humanoids, though I imagine this is either done only rarely and with the convertee's consent... or, among darker corners of Jamanen society, secret kidnappings and forced changes come into play...

>>8352237
Sure there are males... but, rather like warforged, gender is more a mental trait than a physical one.

>>8352327

Rather then write one comprehensive origin, I will go the 4e route of many short possible origins.

1. Descendecents of a slime who got done by a wizard and/or god.

2. Natural backstory (i.e. since recorded history), with a religious story of how they were made (think humanity)


Is there a particular meta-origin for DnD slimes, or do they just exist like rabbits do?

>>8352327
Idea: They change over time from ambient magic forces, which essentially is where Jamanen diversity comes from. So even two families being near each other and only being those two families, each member would be different due to where they were and how the magic affected them. And even then, they only mix as part of tradition. Self-separation is looked down upon for creating (theoretically) weaker children. Creating a stigma among these "clone children".

Possible origin being elemental due to high ties to ambient magic?

>>8352417
aside from a brief comment-in-passing about Gelatinous Cubes obviously having been magically-created rather than natural creatures, I have nothing about ooze/slime origins. I'd assume they were natural, on account of such real-life lifeforms as slime-molds and amoeba and whatnot.

Still not 100% sure how clothing/armor would be very usable on a basically-amorphous body... Hrmm...

>>8352659
Well, slime, yes, but plenty solid enough to hold equipment. Amorphous doesn't mean watery. Maybe a weight limit for equipment before the Jamanen body can't physically support it?

>>8352683
of course, why didn't I think of that.

Maybe redo the carry/fatigue rules, perhaps?

>>8352739
Makes sense. Obviously carrying stuff wouldn't work the same with Jamanen. Other beings have weird stuff like "bones" and "muscle" that all interlinks. Put a heavy bag around a persons shoulders and it might pull them down if its too heavy. On a Jamanen it'll go right through them. Possibly doing damage? Maybe base carry weight on constitution since it depends on how strong their.... uh, slime.. is.

>>8352819
Carry limit based on constitution instead of strength... that fits perfectly. But not the idea of going over it causes damage. But I imagine, like normal carry rules, it would slow them down - after all, it takes a bit more effort for them to hold together, limiting just how easily they can shift and move.

>>8352933
That makes sense, I like it.

>>8353054
I'm half-tempted to try and work out some in-game explanation for why "female" ones seem more prevalent than "male" ones... but maybe I should just ignore it and dismiss it as artistic license or something...

On reproduction: they CAN simply divide, but that leads to clones, as mentioned - plus it leaves both the "parent" and "child" weak until they can regenerate body mass.

Solution: aspiring parents will seek out other Jamanen to mix slime with to create children. Each parent will donate a portion of their mass to the child, thus ensuring a new mix of traits. This also has the effect of not weakening the parents as much, since there's a smaller mass donated to the child. And finally, this doesn't limit the child to just having two parents - in fact, there have been instances of Jamanen having up to 10 donors!

...Thoughts?

>>8353157
Makes sense to me.

>>8353139
Maybe since they can all give birth, they tend to identify as female since in other races only females can give birth?

>>8353139
Just say that their racial outlook on life/mental image tends toward the feminine. Or, perhaps they adopt the female form to fit in a bit more with standard humanoid races: hoping for a "Yes, you're weird, but at least you're sexy" response.

>>8353157
I love it. Thought it might make family reunions confusing to outsider guests...

"Darion, this is my mom, mom, mom, mom, dad, dad, and dad."

And then the poor human gets a severe headache.

>>8353195
>>8353200

That might work. After all, for them, gender is more a mental trait than physical divide.

If any of you guys haven't google "its always time" shit is definitely related. I don't even have a slime girl fetish and I read that entire fucker.

>>8353227
I'm thinking there's some sort of really complex social structure based on donor/recipient relationships combined with previous social standing... or something.

For instance: in feudal societies, two royal lines would intermarry, producing an heir for both lines. Somehow work that into the Jamanen world - your standing depends on who your donors are, who their donors are, who you've donated to/with, etc. Instead of family trees, they end up with family webs.

>>8353320
it's cool, yeah, but definitely more in the "fetish" side of the thing, which we're trying to pull away from here. Appreciate the suggestion, though.

>>8353380
That does sound pretty damned interesting... and hard to figure out.

Maybe the Jamanen society is more distant than other races' to everyone else because it's just too difficult for other groups to figure out or become part of?

>>8353474
They don't HAVE to be some distant nigh-alien culture. (though I am amused by the "family web" idea). Their idea of family is just a bit more complicated than most.

As for other cultures being a part of them, well... >>8351432 maybe.

>>8353539
Well, I didn't mean them to be an alien culture, just that no matter what, they seem to be less transparent than other races societies. They don't function biologically like other races, being oozes, and their familial structure is quite a bit different.

So they wouldn't be separate, just... people in general would be very confused by them unless they got to know them well. At least Lamia have familiar biology and normal families.

>>8353401
I meant it more a suggestion of something to do after you've stated the race. It doesn't really help in that sense beyond NANOMACHINES. It is surprisingly tame, intelligent, and well thought out for a fapfic written by a /d/eviant.

>>8353644
true enough, true enough.

ANYWAY... what about an origin-of-specie for our gooey friends here? Natural beings changed by magic? Wholly artificial creations of some strange event gone awry? Where DID they come from?

>>8353855
Magic created some crazy shit before
Whose to say it can't create sentient slimes?

>>8353855
What are the origins of the other ooze races? Are they natural, experiments, or supernatural?

Could be some form of slime that gained sentience some way, or maybe just plain came from some sort of elemental influence. I'm not sure which way would make the most sense, but I don't know the origins of the other oozes, which would help.

Like a possible union between a slime and a water elemental?

>>8353902
That's what's making this so tricky. the only pinned-down origin for any Ooze-type creature I've found is a few offhand comments saying that Gelationous Cubes were created by sorcerors as a sort of hybrid guiardian/mobile-trash-collector for catacombs, tombs, and other such dungeons. Other ooze-types I have no info on.

There are such things as slime-molds in real-life, however, so that could imply oozes to be natural lifeforms, strange as they might be.

>>8353855

I'd much rather write (and read) what they believe happened then what happened.

I do like reproduction as being analogous to paying for gas on a road trip.

Also, Ooze Knight

Knight of Phutos
1W
Creature- Ooze Knight
Absorb 1
First Strike
1/1

Thinking of domesicated animals that they might enjoy using to get around in.

I'd think of something much more rigid then they, so that they can take stuff around more easily, but that washes off pretty well.

>>8353994
Well that sucks... Jamanen can't really have a purely natural origin... they're sentient beings with no organs whatsoever.

Actually, wait... how to they talk? I guess they would have to form mouths like normal, but they wouldn't need lungs... maybe pulled air from various small pores on their body funneled through to the throat so they can speak? That would mean they'd never have to stop talking for breathing.

I'm thinking some sort of ooze thing possibly with elemental interference? Some large-scale magic, seems extreme even for insane mages to create a sentient ooze race.

>>8354032
Ooze knight?
>He says he wants to help us defeat the lich.JPEG

>>8354064

The "natural" world of fantasy settings is not the "natural" world of this reality.

Try not to get worried about it.

>>8354064
I'm not saying the Jamanen were natural, just that ordinary slimes were.

In the beginning there was the hunger
We knew nothing but it's gnawing ache

>>8354108
I'd still like to keep some sort of internal consistency. Oozes and such in DnD and other settings seem to vary from very basic (like our jellyfish/slime molds) to magic (gelatinous cube). Not too far for a stretch. Not as far as saying a race of intelligent goo existing with no real things to deal with higher consciousness.

Unless their entire forms served the function of neural pathways. They'd be a giant brain, but only equal to a normal human brain because it's not as specialized. But now I'm just thinking about pointless shit.

>>8354032
>I'd much rather write (and read) what they believe happened then what happened.
Hm, you may have a point. What type of history and bookkeeping would Jamanen have, anyway? Would it all be oral history, or would they keep physical stories as well? Maybe after working with other races more they started a written history, leaving all the old stories to be myths and legends?

Maybe they believe themselves descendants of some sort of slime god? What better god-created race than the only sentient form of their type?

>>8354196

I imagine they have acid etchings of great events.

>>8354252
I could see that. They'd be more durable than paper ina society like theirs... just "books" of thin layered sheets of metal, etched with text/imagery of events.

>>8354332
Sounds good
Though I wonder how much metal jam-men could be able to process

>>8354418
enough for recordkeeping and such, at least.

>>8354418
Well as long as they don't eat the material they could use tools like everyone else does.

>>8354418

what do you mean by that?

Hmm... what would be a good god for Jamanen to worship... pretty-much all races have gods...

>>8354747

I imagine that the non-racial gods they worship would related to mining.

>>8354809
interesting... why say that?

>>8354809
Clearly they would have the best race-relations with dwarves.

>>8354747
Either a slime/ooze god directly, or something do do with something amorphous, like a water god, or some shit.

A pantheon of their own would probably have appropriate gods for how their lives work. A god of Earth/dryness/whatever (or fire) would definitely be the sort of "evil" god, as it's the opposite of how they are. Though not water, ooze type beings probably attune moreso to water than other elements (whereas humans would probably be neutral).

The problem is you guys are too busy discussing the name and other trivial shit and not posting slimegirls.

>>8354901
That's because we're trying to design a player race, not fap to slimegirls.

>>8354825

Because they have tons of natural acid that they can use on rocks to break them down.

>>8354935
>design a player race based on slimegirl fetish
>no seriously we dont want to fap.

Uh huh.

>>8354842
Water-gods... hm... why not just worship elementals directly?

>>8354967
Uh, that's actually the whole point of this thread. Making a slime-people race that isn't just fetish fuel.

>>8354997
Why? We're talking about what they worship. They'd probably see water elementals as something tied to their god or whatnot.

>>8354967

We could post slimegirls if we wanted to, but this thread isn't an image dump, and it takes time that could be spent doing otherstuff.

Besides, are you saying that all of your PCs don't embody a personal fancy of yours?

>>8355020
I dunno about personal fantasy, I get good character ideas and want to share them through playing.

Considering my mostly played class is Cleric, and I have no desire for religious anything - fantasy powers or not.

Too bad my group would probably get really weirded out if I played a slime girl.

>>8355015
Ooh, right, forgot about that. Works for me.

>>8355125
I mostly just like planning out how the races work and stuff. I probably won't ever play a Jamanen character, but it's a neat thing to make and plan a character for.

Anyway. Someone's gotta save this information or something so that we don't lose it.

>>8355015
water and darkness, two important thins for slimes.
So they likely worship or at least give respect to water-related elemental forces and gods.

What about darkness? is there a god of dark places? Evil or neutral? spirit of elmental darkness?

>>8355236
Dark doesn't necessarily mean evil, though. Especially to a race that likes the dark. But is there any particular reason Jamanen would like dark more than light? I don't think being in the sun would cause them any harm.

>>8355258
except drying up

>>8355202
Sup tg is back up
Archive !

>>8355276
Depends on what % of their bodies are water. They could be mostly made up of some other liquid with a higher boiling point, therefor less evaporation when in the sun. Granted, it's going to happen regardless, but that happens to every species that spends too long in the sun. Just... moreso to Jamanen.

>>8355276
>>8355258
and more the point, They might not see some deep-down evil god as evil, but when the rest of the party find out that the somewhat translucent members are clerics of EvilKillBad McHumanSlay The Dark One, that could effect things.

So i was more wondering if there was a canon deity with an affinty for darkness or underground places that was less likely to be a balrog.

unless they all worship Jeff, the god of biscuits. Its traditional, and outsiders never seem to know about Jeff.. weird, right?

>>8355320
It's not like they'd evaporate, I think. But I imagine they would still need to consume water/ale/whatever a bit more often than humans would, or end up tired and sluggish or something...

>>8355381
>consume water/ale/whatever
Jamanen vs dwarf drinking contest? That would be awesome.

But yeah, they'd be fine in the sun.

>>8355456
>drinking contest

FUND IT.

>>8355518
Sweet, it's still here!

Different coloured Jamanen would have different elemental affinities. That has to be put in.

>>8355456
fuggen' stickies.. buncha.. buncha cheaters..

hollow leg ish posed to be a joke, nah'wah ah mean? sticky.. dang sticky w' pourin' it right onna floor

I am writing the ruleset for my homebrewed pnp rpg system and setting. It's current edition is 2.7

Four new classes added that are the sin eater (think very choppy cleric)
Alchemist ( this is a steampunk setting after all)
The Alter (Otherwise known as soul merchant, he who trades souls for conteol over the powers of the void)
And the Gheist (thief of magic discipline)

3 new races added

The Rell, a race of people forever damned

The Dekkadians, the savages of the untaimed wild

The Reptellan, the twisted mutants

And now, thaks to /tg/, the Jamanen

>>8355556

I'm fine with this.

In the card designs I have been posting, I imagine that they were color coded to the MtG colors.

>>8355587
Oh god, the dwarven/jamanen rivalry will be heated forever. Dwarves complaining that the 'stickies' cheat because they don't even have a stomache, and the Jamanen complaining that the 'walking beards' are too rigid. I mean, the races are practically opposites.

Though I could see it being more a friendly rivalry than actual hatred. Jamanen being great at etch work on metals and working underground (being able to fit into smaller areas than dwarves to get at specific minerals).

>>8355556
Or at the very least, different properties from being made of differing materials.

>>8355556
>>8355725

Eeh, I dunno... then they kinda end up like glorified pokemon. Why not just have color be an aesthetic difference, like it is with eye or hair color in other races?

>>8355759
Well, yeah, that'd be true, but what about sub-races? The Lamia race we did had 3 subraces, and plenty of other ones have subraces as well. Though Jamanen might be confusing enough with just one.

>>8355759

.....

It doesn't have to be literally true that all yellow ramanen uses electric attacks, just that most yellows do.

Like like ethnicity in humans kinda?

>>8355759
You're right.

>>8355820
You're also right.

What kind of weaponry would Jamanan prefer?

>>8355861
>What kind of weaponry would Jamanan prefer?
I actually have no idea for that. Most weapons wouldn't seem to fit them well. Lamia's have the 'flexible weapons' thing as they are snake people, but there's not 'partially liquid' weapons. Besides poisons and toxins, I guess.

>>8355861

They would probably like swords, in order to make wounds to exploit with their acid.

Maybe have any racial acid attacks work better on bloodied guys?

>>8355791
I say keep color to just that. a color. No special effects or bonus powers, it's just how they look. Like where a human might be described as "the tall slim white guy with red hair", a Jamanen might be described as "the short purple one with green eyes".

>>8355912
Perhaps crossbows or something?

>>8355918
Well, I meant subraces as in more than just colour change. Like how Lamia's have King, Constrictor, and Viper. But I'm not sure how to make Jamanen varied without just ripping off other oozes wholesale, so I guess it's not worth it.

>>8355912
I don't think their acid would be useful in combat. If it's strong enough to affect warriors in combat, how are Jamanen going to wear equipment?

>>8355908
>>8353139
They'd prefer... themselves?

Maybe combat magic orientated rather than actual physical smashing?

>>8355989

The point isn't to cause structual damage, the point is to fuck with your opponents nerves.

A gash might cause more blood loss, but a scrap hurts like the dickins.

>>8355989
I've never been too keen on the whole "acid touch" thing, myself...

So... what's the crunch for our new-crafted race? Gimme some numbers.

Look up the Spelljammers 3.5 homebrew update and find 'dralasite'.

Re-fluff appropriately.

>>8356969
Consider them looked-up and summarily rejected.

bump

Aww, c'mon. No more ideas?

>>8358176

I don't know, I think we have generated good enough fluff ideas, and all I can do is MtG crunch....

bah.

Anyone got any good D&D crunch for this?

>>8358318

We could attempt to summon touhoufag.

>>8358351
Whatever works, man. I want this shit to be usable.