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    233 KB WARHAMMER 50,000 - THE AGE OF EXODUS Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:06 No.7782415  
    previous threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7760069/

    In the grim darkness of the 51st Millennium, there is only the Great Ship, guided by the will of the God-Captain through the void..
    The Ship is All.
    The Ship moves.

    But mankind is not alone aboard the Great Ship, no, mankind's enemies have slipped aboard and seek to defile the sacred ship.

    The loathsome orks and tyranids run rampant within like pests; no sooner has one section been cleared out than another swarm of the vermin appear.

    Countless Necron tombships shot down during the Great Ships maiden voyage out of Mankind's ancestral home litter the surface of the Great Ship. Many more had been unknowingly transported into the bowels of the Great Ship, smelted down and made part of the Great Ship itself.

    The Void Dragon lies cowering and injured, hidden within the Great Ship to all but all the All Knowing God-Captain. His fiendish voice worming into the minds of men, filling their thoughts will secrets of heretical technology and fiendish machines, ensnaring their minds and bodies.

    In the wake of the Great Ship, Eldar Craftworlds drift quietly along, stealing away under the Aegis of the God-Captain.. Their vile kin the Dark Eldar stalk the halls of the Great Ship, sating their hungers and desires with wild abandon as the Grand Light of the God-Captain has rendered their ancestral enemy all but a spec to be forgotten. More worrying are the Neo Eldar, stowaways that dwell within the Great Ship itself, hidden away between levels and corridors, their presence a mystery to man and machine alike.

    Lastly, Mankind's old enemy has been rendered nothing more than a nuisance, but they forces of chaos still fight to this day as the ship drifts ever further away from their foul gods. Never the less even without the corruptions of the warp, men still turn away from the God-Captain to turn renegade and traitorous.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:08 No.7782432
    Tau and Kroot are still around in the form of the
    Purgatorium Xenos Attatchment

    which are xenos the IoM has found aboard the ship that have surrendered themselves to the will of the God-Captain

    The Imperium is a little more willing to work with xenos that will acknowledge they are their bitch
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:08 No.7782434
    So, 8-sided MAFIA game on FUCKHUEG scale.

    Might be cool.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:09 No.7782442
    on a ship thats 1 AU long
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:09 No.7782452
    Hell is real - Crematorium/Combustion engine of The Ship serves as punishement to the heretics.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:12 No.7782483
    well... the IoM gets Space Marines, the Imperial Guard, Sisters of Battle, the Inquisition, the Adeptus Mechanicus, and the Purgatorium Xenos Attachment

    someone also suggested the possibility of humans going "daemon princes of the God-Captain", so they might get their own force
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:14 No.7782498
    SoB get "imperial daemons" because of their crazy powerful faith then?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:14 No.7782503
    i assume this ship has various bio-sectors built in it? cool. im ok with this.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:17 No.7782527
    How would archaeotech be handled?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:17 No.7782536
    don't forget the ship is growing

    every so often a new section will be discovered

    Some higher-ups theorize that the bigger the ships gets, the more vigorous the God-Captain grows

    When he has finally healed his injuries from the Horus Heresy, the ship will be truly immense
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:24 No.7782604
    Well seeing it's so far in the future, smaller elements of the game could be made bigger. I think that'd be kind of cool. Malal, Squats, H'rud, Jokaero and all those guys who get a bit forgotten.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:36 No.7782698
    We don't have words grandiose enough to describe a 1 AU ship getting larger. It is already vast beyond real comprehension.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)15:37 No.7782708
    Probably none at all.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)16:05 No.7783014
    that'd be like several dozen millenia in the future though, plus its only hearsay

    Necron'd AdMech would love it
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)18:15 No.7784348
    I'm just going to bump this to try and keep it afloat until the evening crowd gets here.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)18:22 No.7784411
    I'd say that Archaeotech should only be located in key areas like the Bridge (which is a planet sized vessel that moves on railroad tracks and is endlessly pursued by bike riding Orks, who have mastered the ability to refuel while driving.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)18:31 No.7784518

    What? No, no. The bridge has holy terra inside it. And France is the fire alarm.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)18:52 No.7784730
    So, uh, any writefags in?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)18:53 No.7784738
    I don't really like the idea the ship just mysteriously growing larger. I think the cause of it should be something like one of these, or maybe just leave it undecided.

    When the ship first started moving it was not 1 AU long. After the planets around Tera had been completely used up they just moved the ship to another system and used their gravity controlling tech to direct planets/stars/asteroids/etc into bays along the hull that were specifically made to melt down the planets/etc into materials used to construct more of the great ship.
    All of this was automated of course, and after the original plans for the ship had been completed, they just kept adding on to the ship.
    There are different theories for why this is happening. Some say that the machines are guided by the God-Captain, furthering his own grand design. Others say that it is just an automated process, the assemblers machine spirit taking a count of what the ship needs more of, and building. And there are others that believe in even stranger theories like the assemblers being possessed by Tzeentch or the Void Dragon or that a sufficient amount of Necrons were melted down to cause the living metal to start adding on to what it sees as its body.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:04 No.7784829
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:07 No.7784854
    why doesnt the ship/ imperium seal off the sections of the ship controlled by xenos? also, what is the fuel? other than undying faith in the god-captain of humaity.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:09 No.7784880
    that was the idea, said anon just left out it because he was a derp or something
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)19:13 No.7784913

    Stars are the fuel, curious anon. Please read the archived threads.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:18 No.7784955
    So ship this big must destroy anything that comes near it, with gravity and planet sized canons and all.
    You know hows it been hinted that the Tyranids in 40k was running from something? They were. The Ships movement and wake of destruction caused the to flee, a part of the Hive Fleet ended up in some kind of warp gate. Sending them back 10.000 years.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:21 No.7784978

    caged stars are the fuel
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:22 No.7784992
    well the ship is made of handwavium so it doesn't collapse upon itself, though certainly anything around it is sucked toward it

    likely there are gravity scoops that omnom any delicious matter that gets caught in the gravitational field
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:23 No.7785000
    And France is the fire alarm.

    I L0L'ed
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:24 No.7785012
    >Implying recursion
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:26 No.7785019
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)19:26 No.7785025

    Thanyou. France shall be curbstomped FOR GREAT JUSTICE! And the fire drill, of course.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:28 No.7785044
    How the fuck did they make it when it takes a room full of the Imperiums brightest dicking around for an entire year to remember how to make a gun?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:30 No.7785061
    The Emperor woke up and said BUILD ME A GIANT SHIP and then promptly went back to sleep
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)19:31 No.7785073

    It took ten thousand years anon. Clue is in the previous threads.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:39 No.7785141
    How're the Spess Muhreens doing? Any new chapters?

    Rust Mehreens? :O
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)19:42 No.7785164
    Spess muhreens? Um, I think they've been mentioned somewhere... Why not writefag them in?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:48 No.7785216
    Where be archived thread? Herp derp?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)19:49 No.7785230
    rolled 3, 1, 1 = 5

    Maintenance Report: Oversector 38-44334-1N

    - STC Repository 9901-Alpha in Rear Sector 44277-B has formed an unauthorized primary association with Construct-Process Level Five, Division 209918884. Cargo Twelve in Rear Sector 44277-B is now filled with approximately 82,000 replicas of Dwarf Planet Sacrus VI. These are designated for repurposing as Secondary Submunitions for Hybrid Shock Cannons 33-480 in Rear Sector Turret #8.

    - Dyson Reactor Sphere 44 in Rear Sector 82999-B has gone supercritical. An estimated 6,000 square kilometers of deckspace was vaporized before Emergency Warp Containment Seals were activated. All adjacent sections are open to space; an estimated 88.1 billion humans perished in the initial explosion. Full repair is expected within 5 centuries.

    - An 82-Level-Break-82 error in Construct-Process Level Eight, Division 235892899 has resulted in the overproduction of Servo Skulls in Mechanised Factory Section HH-Triple-99999290190. An estimated 23.6 million humans were wrongfully detained and subjected to skull removal under orders from the malfunctioning Construct-Process. The Servo Skulls will be delivered to Rear Sector 99283-A for distribution within 82 local days.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)19:50 No.7785239
    tl;dr eh? copypasta the http OP provided.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:53 No.7785268
    The ship broadcasts "Holy Diver" at maximum power to anywhere within range before, during and immediately after traveling through the Warp.

    An entire very confused Tyranid Hive Fleet is currently stuck in a completely mechanical section of the ship.

    Another Tyranid Hive Fleet cut a deal with the AdMech and now serve as the shipboard recycling and agricultural specialists. Rumors that this happened shortly after the fleet consumed the 6th Obscura and other "Medicinals" Plantation Sphere are entirely unfounded.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)19:55 No.7785281
    >Another Tyranid Hive Fleet cut a deal with the AdMech

    Wait, what? That makes no sense. That makes less sense than anything else I've seen here. This is just stupid.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)19:59 No.7785317

    "Holy Diver" - Is that the Dio version or the Killswitch one?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:01 No.7785341
    Whichever one the Emprah feels like listening to that trip, I expect.

    The AdMech didn't want to be bothered with the problem of keeping squishy people alive. The stoned Tyranids were happy to take that problem off of their hands.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:04 No.7785371
    Don't think Tyranids work that way....
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:05 No.7785384
    >Listening to reason

    >> Inquisitorial Briefing File Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:11 No.7785439
    item: vox unit found in room 55A-11 of maintenance tunnel 545-11C of Area 334-01A, Section 863-44R, Sector 137-98G by routine sweep. Unit is moderately damage and covered in dried blood. The unit contains a single recording.

    [begin playback]
    UNKNOWN_1: Praise the God-Captain its working! I fear I don't have much time left in me before I... end up like the others...
    <labored breathing>
    They were techpriests, at least we though they were, and they said they needed volunteers to do the Omnisiahs work, so... like any respectable man I thought I should do my part for the God-Captain and his Great Ship, so me and bunch of other men from Fluid Exchange 334-01A-FXCS went to them eager to do our part.
    But oh God-Captain we were tricked, please forgive us for our weakness! They took us...
    took us... and-
    <static, 11.2 seconds>
    -threw us in a cell. They made us watch as they took each one of us into their heretical machine, and stuck the poor soul full of needles and tubes. cu-cut us open... and-and...and....
    They did it to all of us... and I went last... oh God-Captain I got to see whats going to become of me! Jerrings was the first to... to turn... and now I'm all thats left, and sooner or later I'm gonna turn into one of them zombies machines... I watched Jerrings peel his face off... uuuhhhhh... the things they put in me- they're m-movin... feell it... oh god-captain....
    <screaming, 381.3 seconds>
    G-god...cap...tain... hel-p...
    <faint, raspy breathing, 7521 seconds>
    [end playback]
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:12 No.7785447
    They had consumed the entire 6th Obscura and other "Medicinals" Plantation Sphere just before that. There was some good shit in that Plantation Sphere.

    Believe when I say the more surprising thing is that the Tyranids weren't dead. As it is they're still tripping balls ten thousand years later.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:13 No.7785452
    there are space marines still
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:17 No.7785494
    How about... No.

    Just because the Imperium is in a new age doesn't mean its going to start allying with Xenos. Xenos on the great ship are just stow-aways; it is the Imperium's duty to eradicate these "infestations".
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:17 No.7785498
    >cut a deal

    more like gave up
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:17 No.7785502
    "Reason" in this case being a large set of rusty servitor command circuits jammed into various synapse creatures to make them "pliable".
    >> Orks 01/26/10(Tue)20:18 No.7785513

    You gitz loot'd dat idea frum us!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:21 No.7785543
    there is the Purgatorium Xenos Attatchment which is basically a slave army of Xenos that don't want to get errardicated, so if the Imperium makes them fight their battles for them if they want to earn their keep.

    The value of a xeno is far less than that of a man. Why waste something of value when you can use something of no value instead.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:22 No.7785550
    That sounds like Void Heresy talk to me, maggot.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)20:24 No.7785574
    I'd rather have the Tyranids roam the bilge decks thankyou. Stoned 'nids sucks balls as an idea.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:25 No.7785580

    All Xenos are bad, but some xenos are more bad than other xenos. Eventually they must all perish, but for the time being, let us ply the xeno we can control against the xeno we can not.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:25 No.7785587
    This: >>7785543

    And we're talking the AdMech here. They're lazy quasi-heretical bastards who find fleshy needs a nuisance. So they said "why the fuck not" when the coked-out Tyranids came calling and got them to do the scut-work.

    If anybody actually asks about them, they get told that those Tyranids are actually just the latest model of servitor. If anybody asks twice, they get to make a personal inspection of the soylens viridiens production vats.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:27 No.7785596
    This entire ship happened because some Slaaneshi-tainted AdMech had a spectacularly bad idea that they somehow convinced the rest of the Imperium to go along with.

    Hiring stoned Nids as janitors is small-time compared to that.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:27 No.7785603
    But those are reasonable Xenos, like Tau and Eldar.

    You can't reason with a bug, which is essentially what the smaller 'nids are. And the larger ones are nearly impossible to capture alive without incurring extreme losses (As shown by the old 'Nid codex, where they had to sacrifice a good part of of a Muhreen chapter just to capture a LICTOR).

    The Imperium using the Tyranids would be akin to the U.S. Navy using Sharks, or Giant Squids.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:29 No.7785613

    Slaanesh got retconned out of this. The ship was built by the order of the God-Emperor himself.

    He is the Ship.
    The Ship is Him.
    The Ship is All.
    The Ship Moves.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:30 No.7785624
    the AdMech is a lot less heretical in this (well most of them anyway)

    Its Machine-Spirit is quite literally the Omnissiah, the direct will of the Emperor translated into signals and electricity. The Ship is Him and He is the Ship.

    The division that used exist between the AdMech and Imperium is no more.

    Now the Necron'd AdMech are the heretekical ones who have either been subverted by the Void Dragon or Outsider, the two c`tan that managed to make it on board.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:32 No.7785635
    Let's just pretend this Tyranid/Admech nonsense didn't get mentioned and move on, shall we? Otherwise this thread is going to turn into a clusterfuck of NOU and STONED TYRANID TRASH SERVICE HURR.

    Now, what are the environments around the 12 Sun Generators like? Localized ecosystems?
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)20:32 No.7785636

    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:33 No.7785646
    goddamn it people at least look at the previous threads
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)20:33 No.7785649
    rolled 6, 1, 3 = 10

    >akin to the U.S. Navy using Sharks, or Giant Squids.

    You may be interested in a game called Red Alert 2.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:33 No.7785652

    Each sun generator is enclosed in a Dyson Sphere designed to harness its energy. Perhaps it is possible that the inside of the spheres have acquired clinging, oxygen generating plant life? And maybe some sort of villages on the inner surface?
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)20:35 No.7785673

    Well, IIRC they are enclosed within Dyson spheres. Detail beyond that wasn't discussed.

    Personally I see cities clustered on the spheres like barnacles.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:35 No.7785674

    >U.S. Navy using Sharks, or Giant Squids.

    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:38 No.7785687
         File1264556292.jpg-(71 KB, 318x220, 1263874852429.jpg)
    71 KB
    >implying that anything could survive that close to a sun, especially when the sun's radiation is being contained and concentrated.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:38 No.7785693
    But the previous threads are at least a full light-minute to the stern!

    I don't think enough juvenat treatments EXIST for me to make it there before I die!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:39 No.7785699

    And/or: SQUATS
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:40 No.7785712
    /tg/, I'm going to go buy groceries

    This thread better be here when I get back.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:40 No.7785715
    Subprocessor, I hope you were just trying to be contrary about them being used. Because if you support the Tyranid/Admech connection, a little part of me just died.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)20:40 No.7785716
    rolled 6, 1, 4 = 11

    >implying that life won't find a way
    >in 40k
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)20:43 No.7785733

    Don't tl;dr on me now valiant anon! It is epic!
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)20:44 No.7785752
    rolled 5, 3, 1 = 9

    I don't endorse it. The AdMech are tech junkies. A race of purely biological xenos like the Tyranids is closer to their antithesis than anything they would willingly cooperate with.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:46 No.7785764
    I guess you two just ignore the Collegia Biologis and Collegia Cybernetica then?
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)20:46 No.7785768
    Hey, Subprocessor, if the fire alarm is France, what would be the handbrake?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:46 No.7785769
    I'm just saying that anything that lets them ignore the annoying squishies who can't breath vacuum or eat raw megajoules from the reactors is going to be popular with the AdMech.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:47 No.7785776
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)20:48 No.7785788

    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)20:49 No.7785799
    rolled 2, 2, 2 = 6

    Not really.

    Italy, I suppose.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:49 No.7785800

    It already looks like a handle anyway.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:50 No.7785807
    The AdMech aren't opposed to biological technology.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:50 No.7785817
    Hm. This is sort of cool, I guess. Cool enough I wont insult it anyway.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)20:52 No.7785827
    rolled 6, 5, 4 = 15

    Are they opposed to Xenos?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)20:53 No.7785836
    After all the shit the Tyranids have put the Imperium of Man through, do you think it'll be hand-waved as just "Oh, you guise can serve us nao, we cool, right?"

    I see it as being NO QUARTER, XENO SPAWN.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)20:53 No.7785839

    Ok ok. Back to the engines; does anyone else think OPs pic fits right in? Nations on every small cog?
    >> Original 50k anon 01/26/10(Tue)20:54 No.7785847

    That's absolutely how I first pictured it.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)20:56 No.7785860
    50k OP? Is that really you?
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:03 No.7785936
    Anyhoo, I declare myself the king of Cog 3!
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)21:04 No.7785941
    rolled 3, 2, 1 = 6

    Entire civilizations have developed in the elvators. Generations upon generations have lived and died during a routine trip to another deck.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:09 No.7785996
    What happened to the rest of the Imperium?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)21:10 No.7786003
    rolled 5, 6, 1 = 12

    Loose copies of modern-day Earth exist all over the ship, as do their Iron, Bronze, and Steam Age counterparts. Humanity as a whole is living out every era simultaneously aboard this ship.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)21:11 No.7786019
    rolled 3, 5, 6 = 14

    All of the Imperium's worlds have been melted down in the process of forging the ship. Their populations were assimilated into the habitation areas as they were built.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:12 No.7786027

    Yup. Like in a previous thread; go to your desk to work your shift. Trip takes years and the desk becomes your home. Live along with the rest of your shift under your desk.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:12 No.7786029
    He pulled a long drag on his lho stick and exhaled the bitter smoke through his nostrils. He was turned away from me, his elbows resting on the observation port's cold steel handrails, his eyes clouded as he looked out over the vast glimmering sea of lights and steel spires that was Hive Cimbellion.

    He flicked the lho stick to the ground and stomped it out with a sigh. Sparks danced away from the expensive leather of his Inquisitorial bootheel. He turned to me with a weary smile. "It's a habit I never gave up," he said. "Growing up in the Ataraxus-9912 underhive, we all started smoking whatever we could get our hands on as soon as we could walk. The scholas bred everything else out of me. The accent. The spitting. The cursing and the anger and the paranoia. But not the smoking. I'll smoke until it kills me."

    I went to the handrail and we looked out together over the city below. Twenty billion souls slumbered in the great Hive, amidst miles upon miles upon miles of towers and monuments, manufactora slanting down like cliffs, freight lines and transit systems woven together as small and curling as strands of hair, black in the night, flickering with countless lights. It was beautiful, beautiful in its vastness and its elegance, it sadness and its impossibility, as beautiful as the stars in the endless night Outside.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:13 No.7786032

    I said so. He smiled and gestured at the Hive, the heavy rings on his fingers clacking softly. "None of them have ever seen it," he said. "Each one of them will live and die without ever seeing the stars. Even the wealthiest of the merchant-princes will never leave Junction 5601-Alpha. Perhaps they will see the vast rainforests that flower far to the west of the Sanctarius sector, or they might make a pilgrimage to the ruined cathedrals in the ice plains in the cold decks far above. But they will never see the Windows. They will never look Outward. They will never know that the Ship has limits and that there are stars beyond. They will never know carry that burden with them, the terror of that knowledge. Let them sleep. Theirs is a great peace, the peace of the Ship."

    "The Ship is All. The Ship moves," I whispered, for the millionth time, a prayer and a mantra, the first words any Imperial child learns.

    "Indeed," he nodded. "It is so. Yet there are stars also, cold lights in a nighttime far more vast than even the Great Ship. You have seen it, as have I. We are the guardians of that knowledge. It is our duty to make use of it. For we are the Inquisition. We know and we guard a higher Truth."
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:13 No.7786043
    I have to be honest, this would be so much of a better idea if it wasn't attached to the 40k universe. You've put an anchor around the neck of your baby.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:14 No.7786046
    I think we may need to reassess our measurements here. 1 AU is the average distance between the Earth and the Sun, and unless you plan to have either very small stars and/or have the Dyson Spheres VERY close to the stars they contain, I doubt everything will fit. A light year as the length of the ship would definitely do it though, and it would suit the sheer scale of the endeavour.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:14 No.7786052

    Nice. Moar?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:14 No.7786058
    Well thats fucking retarded.
    >> Original 50k anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:16 No.7786076

    That's the whole idea, you jackass. Read the previous threads. The concept doesn't have the same power and majesty if some of the imperium was allowed to remain untouched.

    The Ship is the Imperium and the Imperium is the Ship.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)21:16 No.7786081
    rolled 3, 3, 1 = 7

    Its width was never mentioned. Also, are you actually suggesting we scale this UP? I like you.

    How so?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:19 No.7786106
    Why the fuck would everyone melt down there own worlds? Cxan you imagine the sheer MANPOWER! The TIME! you think that everyone would just let earth make a giant fucking space ship and blast off?
    Someone just said using 40K is an anchor tied to the entire idea.

    New idea.
    Use Warhammer as a base but build up.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:19 No.7786108

    The Dyson spheres were around dwarf stars IIRC. Besides, 1 AU is epically long as it is. 1 Light year? Haven't read the previous threads, have we?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:22 No.7786139
    The plans originally called for the ship to be 1 AU long, but over the years it has grown past that. How far past, no one knows.

    Also: If you haven't read the first two threads, do so now. It will take a while but it is worth it. Don't feed the trolls, this is fun enough without delicious tears and rage.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:22 No.7786144

    >>So, 8-sided MAFIA game on FUCKHUEG scale.

    Can you elaborate on "MAFIA"? Is this a rule set or something?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:23 No.7786146

    You don't just walk into a setting with 3+ threads under its belt and try to change its most basic premise. We've thoroughly established what this is about here. Details are always subject to change. But the Ship is, at least to me, a more or less uninteresting concept without the God-Captain, the Inquisition, the xenos, the entire Imperium, etc etc etc.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)21:23 No.7786148
    rolled 1, 2, 1 = 4

    It could be done.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:23 No.7786152

    Shut up and read the old threads.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:24 No.7786156

    1 AU is the oft quoted length of the ship, but Dyson spheres need to have a 1 AU radius to be a safe (i.e. not melting) distance away from a Sol-like star. If you want to feasibly have multiple Dyson Spheres as a power source (and for something this big, you're going to NEED a power source on that kind of scale), you need the extra space. A light year seems a feasible length for the ship in this case, or possibly even a parsec, plus it adds to the sense of how huge this ship is that light itself takes at least a year to travel from 1 end of the ship to the other (or in the case of a parsec long ship, over 3 years).
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:24 No.7786157
    Original OP of the threads said he would not identify himself, and would leave himself anonymous.

    Your either taking credit for it when you didn't yourself make WH50k or the idea for the 1 AU long Keel, or you are who you say you are and you've redacted your promise to stay anonymous.

    I have lost respect for your name either way.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:24 No.7786166

    (yes, I was one of the protestors at 1AU being just *too* fucking much. thought the writefag's short story about the life onboard made me conclude that while still fucking stupid, it was also pretty cool )
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:25 No.7786176
    >dwarf stars

    Blarg, I need to type faster. Still, in an astronomical sense, 1 AU isn't all that much really.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:26 No.7786182
    Its width was kind of mentioned in the first thread. The idea of the ship in the first thread was an Emperor(I think) class battleship that was scaled up to 1 AU in length, so all other measurements(width, height, volume, crew, munitions, etc.) were scaled up accordingly.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:27 No.7786186

    Oh yeah. How did I forget that?

    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:28 No.7786209
    I think this is an opportunity to work some alchemy on the static Imperium and make a new creation, similar in many respects, but not identical. It's so different in concept to root it in the Imperium seems stultifying. It's a fantastic idea, let it be even better.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:29 No.7786212

    I'm in the same boat, mate. Friggen console controller.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)21:29 No.7786215
    rolled 1, 6, 1 = 8

    In an astronomical sense. This isn't an enormous star or a black hole, though, it's a ship. A mobile vessel stretching the distance from the Sun to Earth, or more. Some can't wrap their heads around that.

    Ah. Right.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:29 No.7786219
    Also, given the sheer scale of the Imperium, you're going to have a lot of leftover material in a ship that's only one AU long if you dismantled every system in the Imperium to create it. Or even just every habitable world.

    At least a light-year long sounds reasonable for this sort of megastructure. Figure that the distance from top to bottom is about, oh, let's say a light-hour or so.

    That gives plenty of room for multiple Dyson spheres to fuel the thing.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:30 No.7786231
    Isn't the Imperium supposed to have a bare minimum of a million worlds?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:31 No.7786245
    so wait is this SPELLJAMMER 50K?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)21:31 No.7786246
    rolled 3, 4, 1 = 8

    What if its primary power source was a caged black hole? Like, say, Sagittarius A*, our galactic core.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:32 No.7786256

    How would that work though? Some kind of massive graviton dynamo?
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:32 No.7786257
    Are we really gunna rescale the ISS Imperium after three and a half threads?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:32 No.7786260
    I didnt say Change that. Make this some kinda Alternate 40K setting.
    Maybe when the Emperor was wounded he told everyone. 'Build me a fucking awesome ship." So then they start building the Emperors Awesome ship. They begin construction around Earth and start building out. The entire Segmentum Solar is dedicated around the building of the ship. (The idea that every habitable Imperial world is perposterous. Theres plenty of Dead/Uninhabitable worlds that can be harvested without even touching a habitable world.)
    Hell the Age of Apostasy can be changed to a civil war based on the nescessity of building a fuckmassive ship.
    So anyway in the 41st M. The ship is finally finished and launched (In it's original form.) Fast Foward to 45-50th M when this takes place.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)21:34 No.7786278
    rolled 3, 4, 5 = 12

    Handwavium given a proper name. Call it a Gravitic Pulse Reactor, a Gravity Ultra-Drive, whatever you want.

    Maybe the ISS Imperium was simply the first ship of its class? In a few hundred thousand years, humanity would outgrow it. Let's think ahead.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:35 No.7786284

    Dude, this was already fleshed out. PLEASE read the old threads if you're trying to participate here. Emps woke up sometime in M.42 and after he issued his command, it took 9,000 years and the entire mineral wealth of the entire Imperium to build the ship.

    Personally I don't really care about the *exact length* of the ship as long as it is FUCKHUGE and incorporates the entirety of the previous imperium.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:35 No.7786293

    1 light year? Come on guys, 1 AU is 8 light-minutes, and that's already really pushing it in terms of sheer ridiculous size.
    The idea of a 1 AU-ish ship is truly epic, awe-inspiring, poetic...this new length would just be beyond laughable.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:36 No.7786294

    *nods and ponders*
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:36 No.7786296
    Why would you need to strip habitable world though? Space is so fuckhuge. And filled with some many planets that mankinf could give two shits about living on they could harvest those.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:37 No.7786306
    Even the Imperium doesn't quite have the resources to do that. It's literally too big even for this ship.

    But smaller black holes might work. You just find some way of harnessing their rotation for torque and therefore power, and you dump the black holes out the back when you've completely drained them of spin.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:38 No.7786315
    >Multiple Galaxy-Class Imperium Ships

    I guess we know what the Tyranids are running from. They ran straight around the universe and came back from behind before we built the Galaxy Class ships and tried to destroy us before we could finish them.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:38 No.7786331
    I think the previous threads nailed it. Wholesale changes sit wrong with me. Tweaks however...
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:39 No.7786340
    1 AU is too much for (well, let's think: 1,000,000 habitable worlds and then maybe 4 times that amount uninhabitable?) 5 million worlds? Really? 149,598,000 kilometres?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:39 No.7786347
    Of course.

    The original specs were for the 1 AU length, and breaking down every world in the Imperium to do it.

    When the AdMech realized that they'd hit 1 AU and they'd only dismantled 5% of the Imperium tops, they said "well, orders are orders" and kept making it bigger until they ran out of Imperium.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:40 No.7786364

    Read the fucking threads.

    The main reason the Emperor ordered the construction of the Ship was to essentially bring a final end to the war on Chaos. With all the souls of humanity concentrated in a relatively small space, and with souls of those octillions of faithful feeding the recovering Emperor, Chaos could no longer really be a player in the galatic struggle. The entire Warp has been sucked into the fuckhuge gravitational field generated by the Ship, and although daemons rail constantly against the Ship's outer walls, they can't get in (every inch of plating on the hull is warded with the Emperor's own psychic power, a sort of new Astronomican).

    If habitable worlds and their populations were left to chill outside of the ship, none of this would work. The Ship must shelter the ENTIRETY OF MANKIND or the idea is bunk.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)21:40 No.7786366
    rolled 1, 6, 5 = 12

    Fleets of light-year long vessels, breaching the long, black night, consuming whole galaxies to feed their ever-growing populations.

    No, humanity, you are the Tyranids.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:41 No.7786380

    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:42 No.7786387
    > Don't care about the exact length of the ship as long as it incorporates the entire Imperium

    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:43 No.7786393
    Maybe even more worlds than that. The Imperium covers what, about a quarter of the galaxy at least?

    That's about 25,000,000,000 stars. If just one percent of them have habitable planets, that's at least 25,000,000 worlds to fuel this with, plus the 25,000,000 stars they revolve around.

    That is a WHOLE FUCKING LOT of raw material.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:43 No.7786394
    It's heavily implied that there are more then 1 million planets in the Imperium. The Imperium also has no clear cut borders meaning the entire milky way is opened up to mining.
    It just DOESNT make sense to strip every HABITABLE world to make the ship when instead they have to just grab all the floating space junk. (Asteriods,Dead Moons/Barren Planets and wrecked ships and Hulks.) and use those to make the ship.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:43 No.7786399

    Well yeah but we're also claiming the thing has Dyson Spheres and/or caged black holes powering it, which already have a pre-established size which is larger than 1 AU. Plus we can already traverse that distance in a matter of months and years with current technologies, whereas the scale that people seem to be getting at is that entire cities can reside inside individual cogs somewhere in the ship, and Holy Terra is not only on the bridge, but has plenty of room to reside in!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:45 No.7786424
    They could be talking about Min Stars or something. Like that thing from Halo Wars. (Inside that Shield World.)
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:45 No.7786426
    > doesn't make sense to strip every habitable world


    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:45 No.7786430
    Yeah, that was a conservative estimate. The 1,000,000 worlds is an 'at least' from quoted sources.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:47 No.7786451
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    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:49 No.7786465

    Imagine walking from China to New york. It would take ages even if you drove that distance. That is in the order of a few thousand miles. 1 AU is 93 odd million miles. How the hell is that not large enough for the bridge to accommodate terra?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:49 No.7786473

    I get the sense that a single anon who has not read the threads is majorly trolling here. It may be trolling due to ignorance but it's still trolling.

    Read them. Now.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:49 No.7786477
    You could put a 40K warhship in there.
    Combat speed for a Imperial naval vessel is near speed of light.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:52 No.7786502
    The Imperial Taxi Service?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:53 No.7786520

    Again, this was already discussed in thread II.

    The Imperial Fleet would be incorporated as high-speed transit within the Great Ship. Trains, planes, and automobiles made from Emperor Battleships and battle barges.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:54 No.7786527
    And with that, Rogue Traderan' just got added to The Age of Exodus.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:55 No.7786542
    Doesn't that mean travel would be incredibly swift?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:56 No.7786557
    Fuck you.
    I was commenting on how this made almost ZERO sense. You cant compress the dang Warp. The Warp is infinte and defies time,space and energy.
    It follows no physical laws and to think that bringing every human (Which is impossible as the Imperium has always been tripping over new worlds long forgotten sense the Dark Age of Technology. Not to mention all the worlds 'lost' sense then.)
    To think that the warp would uber compress itself towards ship is laughable in the extreme.
    If the God Emperor wanted to fuck the chaos Gods then kill his Body and let him Ascend to Uber Godhood and rape the Chaos gods.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:56 No.7786560

    Let us not forget thread two's OP. Epic writefag if there ever was.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:56 No.7786563
    Because that's only large enough for the bridge to BE Terra, given that it's the distance between Terra and the Sun.

    For it to have enough space to have Terra , the Moon and a comfortable margin of space around them? It needs to be a bit bigger.

    Also, the idea that it takes a full year for any changes at the front of the ship to be visible at the rear is amazing.

    And I want to see this thing induce Cherenkov radiation when it flies through a nebula.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)21:58 No.7786584

    Why not.... for those who have access to it. Inquisitors, astartes, AdMech maintenance guys, etc.

    The average citizen will live and die in the confines of a continent- or world-sized Junction without ever need to travel to that which lies beyond.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)21:58 No.7786588
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    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:00 No.7786608
    Indeed it does. Just imagine lanes of giant warships and other craft flying throughout the ship. Though this destroys the idea of everything being uber slow.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:00 No.7786610
    I shouldn't have bumped this off page 8. I should have let this thread die in obscurity rather than covered in trolls.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:01 No.7786621
    Rogue traders would have a special purpose: seeking new sources of raw materials to feed the ship. Replacements for the fuelstars are the most critical things, but there are others. The exterior is going to need to be occasionally repaired, for example.

    And they'd also be responsible for stocking the ship with new varieties of xenos and heretics to ensure that the Marines and Inquisition still have something to hunt. It wouldn't do to have their skills get rusty, after all.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:02 No.7786634
    where are the new materials coming from if the ship is all?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:02 No.7786635
    Oh, for fuck' sake. I'm not trolling. I'm saying that the size seems a bit small.

    Makes sense, although I'm assuming both the AdMech and Inquisition are more open-minded in this world.

    Can they still warp travel, though?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:03 No.7786645

    You seem to be only taking length into account...the Ship would be incredibly deep and wide.
    In the first thread (which you seem not to have read) the calculation was made based on mass that ~2,100,000 Terra-sized planets would be needed for the construction of the Ship.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:04 No.7786649
    I've been working on 50k since the middle of the original thread and I think it's time to let go guys.

    I have no intention of letting our awesome project become a snack for trolls.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 01/26/10(Tue)22:05 No.7786652
    rolled 2, 6, 6 = 14

    Has anyone made a 1d4chan entry for this?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:05 No.7786660
    As humanity's resources aboard the ship diminish, they are forced to recycle the only thing they have left: Their biological material. Centuries of this practice have resulted in industries that operate off of large pools of liquidated biomass, that is pumped into the organic factories. All technology has slowly shifted to incorporate this design. This has created a biological unity to accompany the spiritual one granted by the Emperor, and all humans have, if unknowingly, his voice in the back of their heads, filling them with his plans.

    The great ship finally crosses the dark gap between galaxies and finds itself confronted by a new one, full of strange life already embroiled in war. Before committing the Great Ship to battle, humanity sends out great fleets to explore the galaxy and test the creatures in it. The ultimate goal is to harvest and process all the biomass so that the Ship and the Emperor, who now dictates all human action, can continue on their grand journey.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:06 No.7786667
    So you're the troll? Is that what you're saying?

    There are many more than that on offer, though, in all probability. I mean, fair enough, 1 AU just feels a little small to me. If it's an up-construction of an Emperor class it may be incredibly deep and wide but length is still by far its largest dimension.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:07 No.7786674

    And so the Tyranids were born.
    >> Lost Anon 01/26/10(Tue)22:08 No.7786683

    At least there were a couple of good ideas ITT.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:08 No.7786690
    Why? Your taking the entire Imperial navy. As well as AdMech,Space Marines, Private Ships and Rogue Traders and putting them in there. These ships are large enough to move large volumes of people. Quickly (It would take at at MAX 12 minutes to get from one side of the ship to the other.) It'd be something to the effect of a train network.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:14 No.7786756

    Good writefaggotry. Wish there had been more!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:15 No.7786780
    Other star systems. The ship only required the dismantling of the Imperium. There's still about 3/4 of the Milky Way left, and there are plenty of galaxies left once you've finished dismantling ours.

    I'm looking at it from a different perspective. The original ship has the same mass as six Suns.

    There are a lot more than six stars available for the Imperium to dismantle, and then transmute into heavier elements with fusion.

    When the AdMech dismantles the entire Imperium to build a ship, they mean it. There is no remaining matter anywhere in Imperial territory that has not been incorporated into this ship.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:19 No.7786820

    Edit: I forgot this figure was actually corrected in the first thread after it was proposed. The mass would be ~7.5e32 tons and ~125,529,449 terra masses (377 solar masses) would be needed for construction.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:25 No.7786842
    The last world in the Imperium to be dismantled, of course, was Cadia.

    Mainly because the first item of business for the ISS The Imperium Of Man once it was finished was to literally splatter the Eye of Terror all over its figurative windshield.
    >> Wolfric 01/26/10(Tue)22:25 No.7786844
    Does no one remember the idea that the ship was building itself by this point?

    The idea was that since something moving with such a massive gravitational field would inevitably begin to pull in mass from the surrounding space. According to the nature of the space and the will of the Emperor, the mass would be processed into further raw materials and added on as new parts of the ship. This in turn would increase the ships mass, thereby increasing its pull, and thus getting more mass to continue the cycle. If we assume they've been flying for several thousand years by now, then they've probably gotten to the point it's pulling in nearby star-systems to be added on

    Does this make sense or am I a lot more high than I think I am?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:26 No.7786849
    Again, plenty of stars in the Imperium, and you can afford to dismantle most of them completely. You only need a few thousand to fuel the reactors anyway, and you can always get more stars later.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:28 No.7786859
    thats already a well established fact for this i've people would bother reading the prior threads
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:29 No.7786866

    No man, makes total sense. I'm sober (unfortunately) and that's one of the better ideas that's been posted ITT.

    Very much support the idea of a self-replicating, self-building ISS Imperium.

    Maybe the ship is designing itself according to the plan of the lost Grand Schematic, which was given to mankind by the Emperor when he first woke up to order the Ship's construction. It has since been lost; the AdMech now scours ever inch of the ship looking for this ultra-sacred lost map of the Emperor's thoughts.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:29 No.7786875
    If you don't want new interest and new contributors, even if don't read the threads, then take it off /tg/. You open yourself up to constant questions just by posting here.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:33 No.7786881

    No that sounds about right. Given the size and sheer mass of the thing, the gravity well it would create would pull everything towards it, even in a minute way (remember, everything with mass has a gravity well, no matter how small, and the effect of that gravity well is subject to the inverse square law) so passing solar systems would get dragged towards it if they were close enough. It's theoretically possible that the ship actually has a "tail" behind it made up of stars and planets that were caught in the gravity well but didn't crash into the side of the ship and/or get sucked in, and are now dragged along behind the ship.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:38 No.7786921
    Guys who have not read the previouys threads that go into the size of the ship in detail:

    One often used illustration about scale is that if the Sun was the size of a basketball, the Earth would be the size of a pea, and 100 meters away.
    Now imagine a spaceship next to them, 100m long. Thats 1 and 1/2 times the length of Serenity. (http://www.merzo.net/) How many peas can you fit in Serenity? A fuck load more than 25 million.
    The next time you think 1au is small, think of a lone pea, rattling around in a metal box, and remember that it takes an age to get from one side of THE PEA to the other.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:43 No.7786965
    It would take the dismantling of over 100 stars, each the size of Eta Carinae (the currently largest know star with a mass 100 times that of our own) to construct the great ship, and thats pressuming a 100% efficiency rate.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:43 No.7786974
    And, like any ship, most of the space is going to be void space. The actual frame of the ship, and even its contents, cover a relatively small portion of its volume.

    Well, for a given value of "survived". They are sitting right in the exhaust plume from the drive.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:46 No.7786996

    True, but in this case the spaceship is (continuing with the metaphor here) being powered by basketballs in 100m radius spheres. Even if you use stars half the size of Sol, you're going to need Dyson Spheres approximately 1 AU in diameter to contain them.

    tl;dr version: 1 AU is big. Dyson Spheres are bigger, even with small stars involved.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:47 No.7787015
    As someone who's been posting since the first blossoming of this awesome thread, I think what we need is a better summing up at the top of each new thread. Something that points out that 1AU is plenty of fucking room (and room for fucking)
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:48 No.7787028
    The largest figure I remember seeing in the original thread was 677 solar masses.

    Again, the Imperium is going to contain far, far more than that in terms of stellar mass.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:52 No.7787073
    When we say dyson sphere, don't think something that's livable without shielding. Think a plasma reactor, with all the containment that entails (magnetic-bottles, gravimetric-compression, warp-bubbles) but with a core the size of a star.
    They only used stars because it was the most obviously available supply of hydrogen. And what else do you call a fusion reaction hundreds of thousands of miles wide?
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:54 No.7787107
    I'm a physicsfag. Working on the construction of the ISS Imperium would be a fucking dream job.

    My life for the God-Captain's holy design!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:55 No.7787111
    But remember, the dyson spheres are made out of handwavium, or some other fantastical material so they are small enough to fit inside the ship. Also, with all the additions made to the ship it is much, MUCH longer than one AU.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)22:58 No.7787171
    Well either you can mine 677 Eta Carinaes, or you can break down all the Imperial worlds. Both are good.
    Google lists the mass of the Earth as 5.9742×10^24 kg. With 25x10^6 planets in the Imperium, as suggested above (though I personally thought it was less), that gives 1.49355x10^32, the correct order of magnitude, but about half as much as needed (3.2x10^32 was what I remember from the previous thread).
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:00 No.7787198
    ...except that instead of the more complicated containment measures, why not just go with an honest to god star, with a massive energy-collecting apparatus in a sphere around it ensuring that every last erg it emits is captured for human use?

    And that sphere, for obvious reasons, is going to have to be a decent bit bigger than the star it contains, in order to avoid things like severe damage from every major flare or coronal mass ejection.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:06 No.7787286
    Not 677 Eta Carinaes, slapnuts.

    Just 677 Suns.

    Which, let me tell you, isn't all that hard to find in our galactic neck of the woods.

    And all of the Imperial planets got dismantled too. They just... don't matter, really, not compared to the stars.

    Or to, you know, every single other body in the star systems that aren't the one or two habitable planets.

    Literally the only system likely to have remained more-or-less intact is Sol, and that only for sentimental reasons.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:07 No.7787301
    True. But not that much bigger. Remember, they're only using "small" stars, none the size of Sol.
    And as awesomely writefagged above, they sometimes explode. This mostly leads to them waiting for the hydrogen to cool, rebuilding the surrounding deck, and turning them back on again.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:08 No.7787302
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    I'm surprised no one has posted a good picture of what the actual solar system looks like. This one here is probably way too small, but even just by looking at it you can see that earth would easily fit inside the ISS Imperium.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:08 No.7787312

    Not to mention gravity issues. If you build too small a Dyson Sphere around a star, you risk the whole thing collapsing in on itself from the gravity of the star inside.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:10 No.7787332
    ...that's gotta be scaled for size, not distance.
    It's (unfortunately) almost impossible to get both in one picture.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:10 No.7787338

    Ok wait, sorry. I think that picture is orthographic.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:12 No.7787359
    Bleh. Distance, not size. Look at Jupiter. I blame the tired factor. I think'll go to bed. Good night, sweet anon.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:12 No.7787362
    No, it can't be scaled for size, because Jupiter is visibly bigger than the Sun.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:14 No.7787399
    Well, the real reason to use small stars is actually that they're more stable and longer-lived.

    But bigger stars will give considerably more power, and the Imperium probably isn't thinking in billion-year timescales here. I would think that Tau Ceti sized is about right for what the Imperium is looking for in its reactors.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:36 No.7787753
    I heard the call of the Omnissiah!

    The guardsmen was strapped into a tube, waiting for his turn to join the ranks of the Omnissiah's chosen. He didn't know it yet, but he would soon enough. The Omnissiah spoke to me! Showed me the true path!

    I heeded the call of the Omnissiah!

    It was my duty to educate this poor fellow that had stumbled the shrine I had made for the Omnissiah. I would teach him all about the weaknesses of the flesh and the glory of the living metal I had been gifted with. I quickly went to work, attaching the great machine the Omnissiah had gifted me visions of to the feeble flesh of this fellow.

    I followed the call of the Omnissiah!

    I drove the needles into his spine, the tubes into his veins, all for his glorious rebirth among the Omnissiah's chosen. I needed do nothing more than activate the device! The sound of it working was the most beautiful music as it injected the man with the metal of life in the pale green glow of the device! His howls of agony filled my ears as he was taught the errors of flesh, he would soon be filled with mindless bliss when the metal of life overtook his flesh.

    I served the call of the Omnissiah!

    The process was done, his flesh was seeded with the great work. His bones coursing with the power of the Omnissiah's will. Yes! All would be as is directed, and he will tear away his flesh and become one with the Omnissiah and his place among the chosen. The chosen to spread the message of the Omnissiah, the message of true form of the Omnissiah!

    I spread the call of the Omnissiah!
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:48 No.7787978
    And then Guardsman was a Necron.
    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:52 No.7788058

    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:54 No.7788112

    >> Brother Soulshitter 01/26/10(Tue)23:58 No.7788177
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    >> Anonymous 01/26/10(Tue)23:59 No.7788193
    i doubt the Void Dragon would tell a traitor AdMech how to make real necrodermis

    this is probably a shoddy knockoff substance
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)00:02 No.7788248
    Excuse me good sir, but you mean Void Dragon or Deceiver

    the Omnissiah is the God-Captain's will
    >> Bogweed 01/27/10(Wed)00:06 No.7788302
    but they AdMech doesn't have to know that.

    "I can't believe it's not God Emperor!"
    >> Ragebrew Axebeard 01/27/10(Wed)00:06 No.7788304
    When the voice of Emperor was carried out to the furthest reaches of the Imperium, no one could ignore the call. Even the far off Squats, the few that had traveled the Imperium before their home worlds were consumed by the Tyranids.

    It took centuries for all of them to gather, a small band amongst the uncountable masses of the Imperium. They worked fervently to obey the God Emperor, and now brought together, their numbers began to increase, slowly but steadily.

    When the Ship lurked forward into the unknown, the Squats were once again thriving. They had settled in the front most sections of the Ship, nearest to the mass scoops. Entire planets would be consumed by them, seeking vital minerals. Anything else was thrown to the fusion reactors, to feed the mighty Ship.

    In their zeal to uncover any and all useful material, sometimes they dug a little too deep into the planet, and unleashed horrors from the depths. Necrons, Tyranids, and Orks all could be found on or in the various worlds the Squats tore apart.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)00:07 No.7788330
    > Squats

    Wow it's really cool that the Squats made it onto the-
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)00:22 No.7788573
    This better be here when I wake up in the morning.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)02:06 No.7790062


    For those of you just joining us:

    Humanity has been whittled and besieged by the heretic and the xenos
    The Emperor briefly awakes and orders the construction of a massive ship
    The Imperium, in men and mass, is deprived to build this ship
    The great ship is over 1AU in length and constantly growing, built around the bridge and command structure that was once Holy Terra, powered by the star Holy Sol.
    The ship is launched, with most all of humanity and the God-Emperor himself aboard. Their combined psychic presence staves off the evils of the warp.
    The ship traverses the darkness of space, generations living and dying in its hold with no knowledge of the void outside.

    The Ship is the Imperium
    The Imperium is the Ship
    The Ship is the Emperor
    The Emperor is the Ship
    All is the Ship
    The Ship is All
    >> Bogweed 01/27/10(Wed)02:16 No.7790195
    and it is fuckin' good times
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)02:19 No.7790240
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    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)03:09 No.7790778
    Bump for nighttime justice
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)07:20 No.7793150
    >> Iron Lung 01/27/10(Wed)10:23 No.7794386
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)12:33 No.7795477
    Good morning /tg/!

    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)13:33 No.7796109
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)13:37 No.7796159
    A few minor points:

    1. 1 AU is a value of some religious significance to the imperium; that's why it was chosen. The distance from Holy Terra to Sol...no other civilization would ever have cause to build a ship of that particular length. It's like a huge trademark.

    2. The anon who spawned the original 1 AU ship thread went permanently anon for a reason; he was anon in the first post, and therefore could never positively identify himself. The only way to make sure no stupid anon came on and said "HAI I'm OP : bow before me/I really meant this" was to cut everyone off by making any claim to BE OP self-invalidating. 50k has no OP now.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)13:51 No.7796316

    1. An excellent point!
    2. Just like all great /tg/ products, born from the legion of Anonymous fathers
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)14:26 No.7796792
    As to the problem of successfully containing a star, perhaps they gravitiationally pull off the fuel of current stars, store it at high pressure, and feed it into a smaller reactor or series of the same? That way the collectors can be much closer to the reactors; it's also similar to the plasma technology currently in use, is it not?

    Or maybe they just move stars into the warp and the Emperor sticks his head in occaisionally to make sure the demons aren't stealing power.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)15:18 No.7797398
    >Or maybe they just move stars into the warp

    That could work very well.
    Think smaller, "portable" Eyes of Terror with FUCKHUGE machinery sticking into them. On the outside, in the materium, all that can be seen is great towers of machinery the size of several planets that continue up, up, up until they just sort of... disappear. Your mind tries to tell you that the towers continue even further, while your eyes tries to convince you that no, there is no more tower past a certain point in the distance. On the other side, in the immaterium, the towers *do* continue, and for quite a bit too. Then they connect to the gigantic dyson spheres that fuels the Great Ship.

    The ship is indeed 1 AU long, but it is only 1 AU long in the Materium, where such measurements actually exist. In the warp, the Great Ship takes up so much space (had space actually existed there) that the exact numbers have been known to induce catatonia in those unprepared to hear them.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)15:24 No.7797467
    So...Warhammer 40k meets Battlestar Galactica?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)15:35 No.7797571

    Reminds me of Ua in "The Days of Solomon Gursky"... too big for material reality. It's also a nice little upraised middle finger to Chaos; man's old foe the Immaterium is now a warehouse.

    So is there some giant gate to the Immaterium on the bow of the Ship, sucking everything away to processing centers in the Warp?

    Also, are there smaller rifts in the vessel? like, say, person-sized rifts, the Emperor's own attempt at speeding transport along (long since forgotten or sealed off as unusable/fickle , of course)? Our own little Webway...

    And as for the catatonia, Titan Princeps meets Astronomican. an elite cadre trains all their lives to serve as pilot for one brief fraction of a second before the reality of the Great Ship's true enormity hits and destroys them.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)15:41 No.7797630
    Is anyone but me thinking that the computer/control systems should be in a state similar to Castle Heterodyne from Girl Genius? Where the system is badly fragmented and the central "personality" is isolated up by the bridge, with various subsystems all warring within the ship and trying to establish supremacy.

    Meet your new faction.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)15:45 No.7797676
    >Also, are there smaller rifts in the vessel? like, say, person-sized rifts, the Emperor's own attempt at speeding transport along (long since forgotten or sealed off as unusable/fickle , of course)? Our own little Webway...

    Actually, one fan-theory I heard says that the Golden Throne was originally an attempt by the Emperor to create a Human Webway.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)16:08 No.7797964
    A 1-AU long ship...with a gateway into the essence of everything mankind hates and fears roiling away at the front.

    Because they ran out of gasoline.

    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)16:48 No.7798342
    Fan theory?
    That is the reson why the 1k sons went to Chaos.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)16:53 No.7798387
    >>the Golden Throne was originally an attempt by the Emperor to create a Human Webway
    Bzzt. He /was/ building a webway which Magnus the Red wrecked with his sorcerous treason warning, but the Throne was planned and built after the showdown with the big H-dog.
    >> Omnissiah 01/27/10(Wed)17:01 No.7798477
    While this is certainly a novel idea, it does raise some problems with the stability of the system, especially if Chaos tries to sabotage it. Compressing, storing and reigniting solar material makes a lot of sense. So while we don't need a "proper" Dyson sphere, there could be about a dozen "mini" Dyson spheres containing small, sun-like reactions.

    Basically. But bigger.

    While it is a novel idea, my first instinct would be "no" for a number of reasons.
    1. Castle Heterodyne = AI = A big Mechanicus no-no
    2. A centralized control unit is effectively impossible on a ship where it could take 12-14 minutes (8 light-minutes stem to stern times the speed of electricity along a coaxial cable) for a command to even reach where it's going even by electric signal.
    3. If there's one thing the Mechanicus loves, it's redundant decentralization of systems and using cheap, replaceable human lives instead of precious, precious technology.

    There is only one pilot, and He is the God-Captain, savior of All Mankind.

    Also, there should be no FTL in The Ship. It takes away from the theme of it. Not to mention the difficulty manipulating the warp inside not only a Gellar Field but under the Emperor's Own Gaze.

    And yes, it is heavily implied in the Horus Heresy novels that the Golden Throne basically sits atop a webway gate the Emperor was building, and the Custodes guard the gate just as much as they guard Him. HOWEVER, in the timeline of the ship, having even attempted webways within the ship goes against our previously established idea. The Emperor only woke up once, to order the construction of the ship. Period.

    However, that's not to say some sneaky Eldar haven't been hiding aboard somewhere, or a Chaos cult has unlocked a ritual to that effect. But not the Imperials.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)17:07 No.7798538
    this is why americans shouldnt write warhammer
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)17:10 No.7798562
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    Oh like the Britfags started off with anything better.
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    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)17:39 No.7798823
    you wouldn't have to make the Heterodyne system with AI. Use cogitators, or use amniotic-casket-ed AdMech. And actually the sheer size plays into the idea, if localized subsystems are told "okay, your boss has a five-minute delay before he can speak to you, so if something comes up you're authorized to deal with it"...and then someone cuts the line. People stay away from the room as it's sealed BY ORDER OF THE MECHANICUS so nobody tells it the central comp hasn't been rendered inoperable. It would be extremely easy to get a series of self-sustaining subsystems, none of whom can verify that the others are or are not working, trying to "restore order" to fringe devices and expand their own networks against the intrusions of clearly flawed competing networks.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)17:43 No.7798865

    Do they have mobile adepts connecting old cogitators and sabotoging rival networks in a mechanical parody of the Trade War?

    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)17:44 No.7798871
    I'm interested in this.

    I'll read through the thread when I have time and maybe contribute if I still like the idea. Just wanted to say, from the concept I've seen so far, I'm enjoying what you guys have came up with. Good work, keep getting shit done.
    >> Chaos deserves a better end Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)17:50 No.7798918
    The traitors Astartes did not go without a fight. As the imperium drew back from the edges of the galaxy to build the greatest ship in the universe, Chaos started to advance. The primarchs rose from their thrones again and led their legions towards Holy Terra.

    Mortarion led a Leper's Crusade. In his wake followed more diseases than the imperium had ever seen or will ever see again. His legion followed stubbornly, like they had always done, on a road straight to the Golden Throne. After the Crusade was broken, he took refuge in the sewers and dregs of the ship.

    Magnus went to The heart of the imperium and the warp opened up wherever he went. His sorceries destroyed a thousand planets, but he was eventually stopped at the hull of the Imperium. Prospero was rebuilt on the Great Ship and through it the warp still tries to invade the last great Ark.
    >> Omnissiah 01/27/10(Wed)17:50 No.7798920
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    You, sir, WIN.

    Also, I started a 1d4chan article, so if somebody more capable than I wishes to contribute to it, that'd be awesome.
    >> Omnissiah 01/27/10(Wed)17:52 No.7798951

    Hey, chaosfags, get it through your head, THE LEGIONS CAN'T DO SHIT. They are stuck outside The Ship. Period. However, this lets us get rid of their stupidity and replace it with more awesome stuff. Chaos is still there as the Enemy Within. So Chaos Cults and Traitor Astartes are still a real possibility. But the single-god HERP DERP Black Crusaders can go suck a dick.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)17:55 No.7798992
    Looking at that picture it made me realize that The Ship is worse than the Nids when it comes to matter in general.
    >> The last crusade, cont. Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)17:59 No.7799041
    I know there a shit now, I'm just writing a better ending. Do you think Magnus likes being stuck on the hull of a ship?

    Abbadon never saw the crusade reach Terra. He died when Hive fleet Levathian crossed the path of the Last Great Crusade. His place was taken by Lorgar, the Final Champion of Chaos Undivided.

    The primarch Perturabo reached Terra first. His legion made siege upon the ship. The warp gathered around the hull and no one dared to touch them when they forced a breach. Inside the ship was a different matter. Perturabo tried to force his way to the throne, but was bogged down when the combined chapters of the loyal Astartes stood in his way.

    Alpharius didn't participate in the crusade, his whereabouts are still unknow.

    Fulgrim died when he met WAAGH Gorgutz. As he fell at the weapons of the 'Eadhunta, the demon in him ceded his body to Fulgrim's mind, just in time to feel his head chopped off.

    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:00 No.7799045

    Dammit. Anyway, continuing.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:06 No.7799105
    You used the word "ship" 12 times in that tiny-ass post.

    Learn some goddamn synonyms.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:08 No.7799133
    Of course Alpharius was there! Who do you think lured the hive fleet into combat with the crusade? Well?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:11 No.7799176
    First time writefagging. I'm just doing this because no one else is.

    Lorgar alone made it to the Golden Throne. He came to show his father the might of the Chaos gods. Wounded and tired from the fight against the loyalists, he prepared to die against the Adeptus Custodes. He didn't have to. They cleared the way to the throne to let him pass. The doors closed after he entered and he was never heard from again. Some cults still worship him and believe he has ascended to the holy seat of the Imperium. They think he is the true God-Captain. Everyone else thinks those cults are nutters.

    Angron still rages, but his rage is ineffectual. Along with the other deamons he pounds away at the hull of the ship, a hull he will never breach. He came too late for the fight. It is said his rage exceeded Khorne's when he saw the Imperium closed forever.

    This is it. If anyone wants to write something about the loyal primarchs, that would be nice. Russ, Khan, Jhonson and Corax are still alive in M41, so what happened to them?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:12 No.7799195
    Any comments? What do I need to improve to not suck?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:14 No.7799215
    Vulkan's alive too.

    Maybe the loyal primarchs have returned and are now on the Bridge with their father.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:14 No.7799228
    Haven't the Norn queens of the tyranids gone to meet the emprah, to tell them what they have been trying to tell him all along?
    they followed his burning star from another galaxy, they clawed devoured and laid waste a bloody path through our galaxy to get to him.

    Now they are so close, surely they must fufil their instincts and go unto him and say

    "mines the next stop"
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:16 No.7799252
    I enjoyed it, was kind of cool.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:18 No.7799284

    This. A thousand times this. Concentrated humanity has broadcast a beacon in the warp no son of the Emperor could fail to hear...and so they come to once more be the paragons their farther always intended they be.

    They lived as gods, they sank into legends, and now they rise again...

    As passengers. For the Ship moves.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:20 No.7799311
    Does this mean the Dark Angels are forgiven? And do the Blood Angels still suffer from the Black Rage?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:21 No.7799330

    >I know there a shit now, I'm just writing a better ending. Do you think Magnus likes being stuck on the hull of a ship?

    Every psyker that passes within 10 sectors of the part of the ship where he is stuck can tune into a psychic broadcast that goes:
    “...183.408.556.098.725.218.777 bottles of beer on the wall
    183.408.556.098.725.218.777 bottles of beer.
    Put one down pass it around
    183.408.556.098.725.218.776 bottles of beer on the wall...”
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:22 No.7799341

    If humanity were perfect, what need would there be for the Great Ship?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:27 No.7799410
    Not perfect, but it's a new beginning right? There can be plot advancement to make more room for new Grimdark.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:30 No.7799458

    I like to think Peturabo would also be slowed down by some tiny measure of doubt.

    He is and was a mechanical genius, seeing the ship must have given him pause, just for a moment.

    "If I had known. If I could have been the one to build this. No. No, since I could not see it built by my hand I will see it BURN!"
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)18:50 No.7799689


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