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    364 KB Planes & Mercs Quest Thread #2 (technically three) girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:20 No.13043559  
    So the last thread kinda died while I was asleep.

    Anyway, is the Gm or any of the other players up right now?

    Link to last (half-)session: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/13012344
    >> Anonymous 12/05/10(Sun)20:22 No.13043580
    I don't think so, I'm half way done making a mission in Zimbabwe.
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/05/10(Sun)20:23 No.13043588
    I'm still circling around.
    >> "Gatos" Perron 12/05/10(Sun)20:24 No.13043604
    I'm here, but on my phone shopping for groceries.
    >> "Lofty" 12/05/10(Sun)20:25 No.13043611
    I'm here. Fucking strep though
    >> "Lofty" 12/05/10(Sun)20:26 No.13043619
    Also weren't we pretty much about to start the show last time?
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/05/10(Sun)20:29 No.13043662
    Yeah. The attack on the camp was started, and the paras had put smoke on an AA missile truck, and something airborne was coming at us from the north.
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:29 No.13043664
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    Well I'm glad to see I'm not alone.

    Like I said in the previous thread, I think we might be able to work around timezone differences by having one single continuous thread at a time, where we can post and bump at our leisure. Kind of like the Infin/tg/ thread or Sororitas Quest.

    What do you guys think?
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/05/10(Sun)20:31 No.13043689
    It could work, especially as there's only 4 active players plus the GM.
    We'd have to keep an eye on it though and watch for auto-sage, but that's not too difficult to do.
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:32 No.13043702
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    Also it seemed like we didn't have Gato with us given the map the GM made. (I didn't notice it the first time around, probably because it was like 3am for me at the time.) Probably because he showed up after the roll call, but the GM said that we could discuss whether he'd appear on the mission or not.

    So I suppose Lofty here will probably be using his roll 7 to attack that SAM.
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:34 No.13043726
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    Since we're all here, I suppose I'll just repost all the background stuff I've organized so that the thread doesn't look so empty.

    >Capt. mytiones
    Well it looks like I've got the name for my back-up character in case Prophet buys the farm.
    >> "Lofty" 12/05/10(Sun)20:35 No.13043751
    If we can keep it open and bumped that'd work for me
    >> Pilot Profile: Prophet girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:36 No.13043767
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    Name: Sajjad Azam
    Callsign: "Prophet"
    Nationality: Pakistani
    Age: 37
    Flight Experience: 14 years in Pakistani Air Force
    Aircraft: Mirage III
    Specialization: Air to Air
    Abilities: "I got tone!"; "Keep up with this"

    Backstory note: Retired from the Pakistani Air Force to join the private sector so that he afford to send his son to Princeton and his daughter to medical school.
    >> Pilot Profile: Flapjack girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:37 No.13043775
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    Name: Jack Morrison
    Callsign: "Flapjack"
    Nationality: Canadian
    Age: 30
    Prior flight experience: fighter pilot, Flight Lieutenant, Canadian Forces Air Command
    Aircraft: Canberra (Electronic Warfare variant)
    Specialization: Jack of All Trades
    Abilities: "Radar Wizard"; "Mk1 Eyeball"

    Interesting backstory note:
    Jack Morrison's callsign was awarded to him when he was in the Canadian Air Command, for his almost unhealthy obsession with pancakes.
    The man loves his flapjacks and maple syrup, which usually leads to him spending hours in the gym in order to stay within weight requirements.
    >> Pilot Profile: Jackpot girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:38 No.13043786
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    Name: Panas Ivanov
    Callsign: "Jackpot"
    Nationality: Russian
    Age: 31
    Aircraft: Mirage III
    Specialization: Jack of All Trades
    Abilities: "Where do you think you're going?"; "I got tone!"
    >> Pilot Profile: Gato girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:39 No.13043802
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    Name: Wang-Chu Perron.
    Callsign: "Gato"
    Nationality: Mexico.
    Age: Too old for this.
    Aircraft: Blackburn Buccaneer
    Specialization: Air to Mud
    Abilities: "Light up the sky";Stop blowing holes in my Plane!"
    >> "Lofty" 12/05/10(Sun)20:39 No.13043806
    Go in low and hit them with 2 napalm canisters. That ought to do the trick
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:40 No.13043825
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    Name: Tom Nicholls
    Callsign: "Lofty"
    Nationality: Australia
    Flight Experience: Cropdusting. Since age 15
    Specialization: Air to Mud
    Abilities: "Mk.1 Eyeball"; "Iron Rain"

    >By the way, Lofty you given thought to a character portrait, yet?
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:45 No.13043911
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    Glad to hear you two think it'd work.

    It's reportedly a light armored vehicle (SA-9) though. It'd probably be better if you hit it wit a couple of rockets, that'd take it our quick and from a longer distance.
    >> "Lofty" 12/05/10(Sun)20:47 No.13043929
    Been looking but I got nothing really on my laptop thats suitable
    >> "Lofty" 12/05/10(Sun)20:48 No.13043948
    Ah ok thought it was an emplaced sort of deal. Need to reread the old thread
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:51 No.13043975
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    Oh and just for reference, here's everyone's load out from last session:

    Mirage IIIC:
    4 x AIM-9D Sidewinders
    1 x Matra R530

    Mirage III (Which version do you have, by the way?):
    4 x AIM-9D Sidewinders
    1 x Matra R530

    Canberra EW-variant:
    2x 7.62 machine gun pods
    2x Matra rocket pods (18× SNEB 68 mm rockets each)
    2x AS-30L air-to-ground missiles
    9x 500lb unguided bombs

    Cessna Dragonfly
    4 x Napalm tanks
    4 x Rocket pods (19 rockets each)

    2 x AIM-9D Sidewinders
    2 x Matra rocket pods (18× SNEB 68 mm rockets each)
    2x Napalm tanks
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:54 No.13044018
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    Also everyone's rolls for the first turn (which we we only in the middle of before the GM got called off):

    >rolled 2 = 2
    >rolled 4 = 4
    >rolled 9 = 9
    >rolled 7 = 7


    >rolled 10 = 10
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)20:57 No.13044057
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    Also, for future reference, the unofficial Planes & Mercs Quest Soundtrack:

    Solar Angels - Judas Priest
    Hard As Iron - Judas Priest
    Don't Stop Me Now - Queen
    Radar Rider - Jerry Riggs
    Holy Diver - Dio (I can't believe I nearly forgot this song existed.)
    Highway to Hell - AC/DC
    Highway to the Danger Zone - Kenny Loggins (Naturally)
    SWAT Kats Season 2 Theme
    How Far to Paradise (Version 2) - Derek Jackson
    The A-Team Theme (Full Version)
    I'm On A Boat - The Lonely Island ft. T-Pain (For carrier-based missions)
    "Oh No You Didn't" (Mercenaries 2 Song)
    >> Wang-Chu "Gato" Perron 12/05/10(Sun)20:58 No.13044070
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    I find this hilarious, since this was an idea I had for a PC once.
    >> Anonymous 12/05/10(Sun)21:14 No.13044265
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    So what do you think you'll be facing?
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)21:14 No.13044266
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    >> Wang-Chu "Gato" Perron 12/05/10(Sun)21:15 No.13044281
    No! Don't die on me!
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)21:21 No.13044348
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    On the ground?
    Not that much, likely some SAMs, and whatever reinforcements are quick enough to head to the prison camp on time. Probably not likely to be much in the way of armor.

    In the air?

    The Myanmar Air Force's main frontline fighter aircraft is the Chengdu J-7 Airguard, which my character would be quite familiar with.
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)21:22 No.13044372
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    Of course...they also have MiG-29s.
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)21:57 No.13044821
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    >> Anonymous 12/05/10(Sun)22:00 No.13044844
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    And lastly they have these. And they're ground attack. That's about it in any good quantity. (According to wiki and a couple other places at least)
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/05/10(Sun)22:01 No.13044859
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    We can probably be safe with a bump every hour to two hours. Page 15 still has stuff from 18:00 server time.
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)22:04 No.13044907
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    If the GM goes easy-mode on us we might even face some of the dozen J-6s they have left.
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)22:06 No.13044947
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    >Y'know I really do like the paint job on this JF-17. Coincidentally rather festive given the season.
    >> Wang-Chu "Gato" Perron 12/05/10(Sun)22:07 No.13044965
    So are we playing?
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)22:09 No.13044984
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    We're hoping the GM notices this thread so we can have a sort-of extended session with everyone involved posting when its convenient for them.
    >> girder 12/05/10(Sun)23:21 No.13045814
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    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)01:06 No.13047146
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    One last bump before I have to be away for eight hours.

    Keep this thread alive fellow players, okay?
    >> Anonymous 12/06/10(Mon)02:23 No.13048029
    Big Un-Manned Planes.s

    >>self-doubt ougated
    Don't doubt yourself Captcha!
    >> Anonymous 12/06/10(Mon)03:42 No.13048825
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    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)09:01 No.13050912
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    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)13:12 No.13052704
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    >> "Gatos" Perron 12/06/10(Mon)13:23 No.13052810
    El bump.
    >> Anonymous 12/06/10(Mon)16:06 No.13054277
    Yet another bump
    >> Anonymous 12/06/10(Mon)16:30 No.13054488
    What is the Canberra?
    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)18:02 No.13055259
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    This: 13044859

    2nd Generation jet bomber.

    >> Planes & Mercs Unofficial Soundtrack girder 12/06/10(Mon)18:47 No.13055655
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    Just a little something I've put together for Planes & Mercs sessions:


    "Solar Angels" - Judas Priest
    "Hard As Iron" - Judas Priest
    "Don't Stop Me Now" - Queen
    "Radar Rider" - Jerry Riggs
    "Holy Diver" - Dio
    "Highway to the Danger Zone" - Kenny Loggins (Naturally)
    SWAT Kats Season 2 Theme
    Rock You Like a Hurricane - The Scorpions
    "How Far to Paradise" (Version 2) - Derek Jackson
    The A-Team Theme (Full Version)
    "I'm On A Boat" - The Lonely Island ft. T-Pain (For carrier-based missions)
    "Oh No You Didn't" (Mercenaries 2 Song)

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
    >> Anonymous 12/06/10(Mon)18:49 No.13055670
    Aces High-Iron Maiden
    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)18:51 No.13055700
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    ...Well that was quick.
    >> Anonymous 12/06/10(Mon)18:56 No.13055765
    So what is this? Who's running it and how do we play?

    As for music, I've been listening to a lot of The Rolling Stones while I play Ace Combat. Feels pretty good while cruising around at high altitude or coming in on bomb runs.
    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)19:02 No.13055830
    /tg/-based Planes & Mercs quest with, an admittedly forewarned by the GM, irregular session schedule.

    Basically the players are a mercenary air squadron.

    I'm not quite sure what system the GM is using, but he said he's mostly freestyling it.

    Currently as you can see from the profiles we've got 5 players. The GM said we needed 4-6, so there's still room for one more.

    Last session ended in the middle of a mission though, so if you're interested in playing you'd have to wait until the next mission.

    I'll post the character creation options for you.
    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)19:05 No.13055863
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    Just for reference, here are the company profiles the GM gave us. We had to pick one, so we chose Showtime Flight Services:

    Advantage Flight Solutions
    HQ: UAE
    Budget: Large
    Access: Global
    ROE: Restrictive
    Advantage is a big name player, and is traded on the stock markets. Top flight benefits make it appealing, but expect HR to talk your ear off about 'unacceptable casualties'

    Showtime Flight Services
    HQ: Australia
    Budget: Moderate
    Access: European Defense
    ROE: Moderate
    Showtime is the brainchild of Harold "Hog" Blackburn, a former RAAF pilot. You won't be asked to do anything morally reprehensible, and the parties are great, but the paycheque isn't great.

    Executive Outcomes
    HQ: Capetown, SA
    Budget: Limited
    Access: Former Soviet Bloc
    ROE: What Hospital?
    Executive Outcomes does the jobs no one else will take. Calling their aircraft flightworthy is a stretch, but you're only required to get the job done, no strings attached.

    Air America
    HQ: Virginia, USA
    Access: American Defense
    Budget: Excessive, suspiciously so
    ROE: Variable
    This sleek and all American operation works 24/7 to make the world a safer place for Americans. You get paid handsomely, but the moneypot almost seems too full.

    Budget: A case of Vodka and a two for one Frozen yogurt coupon.
    ROE: Liberal
    Access: Soviet Bloc

    Achmed's Discount Air Service
    HQ: A cave, well furnished with rugs and betamax!
    Access: We offer the ENTIRE range of fighter combat aircraft from Cessna and Piper! For you, I make special price!
    Budget: Two Camels and my third wife, but no more, you are bleeding me dry, how do I feed my children! What? Fine, Three Camels, my third wife and this watch, but that is my last offer! What? No! How dare you accuse me of cheating you, FOLEX is quality brand name watch!
    >> Iron Lung 12/06/10(Mon)19:06 No.13055872
    Dragonforce -Operation Ground and Pound
    Vangelis -Blade Runner Blues
    EvilNine -Crooked
    Gwen Stefani -Hollaback Girl
    FEAR -Let's Have a War
    The Hunger -Vanishing Cream.
    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)19:12 No.13055941
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    (By the way, the company chosen effects your tentative list of choices for aircraft, though according to the GM new pilots get their pick of up to Vietnam War-era aircraft as that's all they can afford.

    Since we chose Showtime we got this list of aircraft to choose from:
    British Electric Lightning
    Hawker Hunter
    Blackburn Buccaneer
    Mirage III
    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)19:13 No.13055954
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    Once you decide on pilot details like name, age, nationality, background, etc. you pick pilot specialization.

    Pilot Specialization :

    Air to Mud
    Jack of All Trades
    Air to Air

    "Burner Bastard" Allows you to disengage at will from an ACM situation.
    "Lead Storm" Cannon ata
    "Iron Rain" Unguided munitions atg
    "I got tone!" Heat seeking ata
    "Paint Melter" Radar Guided ata
    "He'll fly right by us!" Can be used to increase your decel rate, (ACM)
    "Rounds on the Ground" Cannon Strafing
    "Where do you think you're going" Interception and ACM engagement ability
    "Mission ain't over yet" Fuel conservation
    "Stop blowing holes in my plane!" defensive bonus Ground Fire
    "Keep up with this" defensive bonus ACM
    "Light up the sky" defensive bonus Flares
    "Aluminum Cloud" defensive bonus chaff
    "Lost in the Noise" defensive bonus chaff
    "Dim the fires and stop the tires" landing roll bonus
    "Radar Wizard" spot bonus radar
    "Mk 1 Eyeball" spot bonus visual/identification
    >> Anonymous 12/06/10(Mon)19:13 No.13055955
    That's a good choice. Decent equipment, no public relations disasters, no bombing civilians for cash. What planes does "European Defense" include?
    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)19:14 No.13055965
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    One general and two specialties per pilot, by the way.
    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)19:17 No.13055995
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    See: >>13055941

    As of right now the 5-plane squadron consists of:

    2 x Dassault Mirage IIIC
    1 x English Electric Canberra
    1 x Blackburn Buccaneer
    1 x Cessna A-37 Dragonfly
    >> girder 12/06/10(Mon)19:23 No.13056057
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    Last session we got a choice of three different contracts for our first mission:

    Mission Contract #1
    Location Colombia
    Description: The Colombian government is contracting out a strike on an entrenched drug plantation and processing facility.
    Threat level: Low-Moderate

    Mission Contract #2
    Location: Taiwan
    Description: The ROC is offering a coastal patrol contract to protect their surface interdiction ships working to stop human trafficking.
    Threat Level: Low

    Mission Contract #3
    Location Burma
    Description: Amnesty International is organizing a direct action against a Burmese political prison camp, and requires both air cover and air support.
    Threat Level: Moderate

    We picked number three because it seemed like it would pay the most, also because it was the most lulzy.

    To quote one anon:
    >I love it, two heavily loaded bomber/attack aircraft, protected by mach 2 lawn darts fighting for Amnesty International in the skies over Burma. And one of the bombers is loaded with napalm.
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/06/10(Mon)22:24 No.13058299
    Technically, it would be 1 bomber and 2 strike aircraft, but considering their loadouts, I think the Dragonfly and the Buccaneer can count as very light bombers.
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/07/10(Tue)01:57 No.13060999
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    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)03:45 No.13061853

    I would have chosen the Taiwan mission but then I had a nagging feeling we would be striking the first blow of WWIII against China by accident.
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/07/10(Tue)05:56 No.13062693

    Seriously, this looks like a lot of fun, too bad you all chose a sucky company. Euro planes, seriously? Bleh. Oh well, guess I should start reading up, never know what I might find. Would there be room for a whirlybird pilot, or is this strictly a fixed wing game?
    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)08:03 No.13063561
    Right here man.

    Just make you own character following the same format we did, and when (hoepfully) we get in touch the GM again and finish the first mission we can add you to the squadron.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/07/10(Tue)08:05 No.13063575
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    To the person who uploaded the "Planes and Mercs Soundtrack": This is good shit, but it's sort of wierd how almost all of the songs are sung by people who Araki used as villains in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)08:09 No.13063600
    Thanks, I'm working on adding the suggestions other made right now.
    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)08:12 No.13063635
    >others made
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)08:12 No.13063636
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    >Sucky Euro Planes

    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/07/10(Tue)08:14 No.13063651
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    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)08:20 No.13063696
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    Euro Planes are sexy... Surprised no one took this baby.
    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)08:26 No.13063745
    Well, actually the GM said that its actually a tentative list, used to make choosing easier.

    There general rule is that upstarts can only afford Vietnam War-era airframes. He said that Jackpot could get an F-4 as an upgrade, possibly for/after the next mission.
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    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)08:30 No.13063782
    My suggestion for music.

    Paradise Circus - Massive Attack

    It's unfortunate that when we feel a storm,
    we can roll ourselves over 'cause we're uncomfortable
    Oh well the devil makes us sin
    But we like it when we're spinning, in his grin.

    Good song for post-mission reflections.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)08:31 No.13063794

    Have you talked to these guys since they are doing the same thing?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)08:37 No.13063837
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    Is it wrong that I get sexually aroused by this?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)08:45 No.13063888
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    It would be wrong if you DIDN'T!
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)08:49 No.13063917
    Damn that's a trippy song. I hope that played at Baron's funeral...

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    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 12/07/10(Tue)09:11 No.13064054
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    Hell yeah! Planes and Mercs!
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:11 No.13064056
    Way to miss the targed demographic. On /TG/ of all things...
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:16 No.13064081
    The F-22, the world's most advanced fighterplane that can be defeated by rain.
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 12/07/10(Tue)09:19 No.13064100
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    1/10 read more anon.

    Also sabaton, aces in exile for P&M soundtrack?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:22 No.13064123
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    No matter how much the F-22 wants to be, it will never be as Iconic as this beast.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:25 No.13064140
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    You're now aware that the generation learning to fly F-22's now is the last fighter pilot generation.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:29 No.13064154
    I saw the movie 'stealth' and I know you are wrong.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:36 No.13064201
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    Sure, it's not like drones are already the most effective weapon used in the entire afghani conflict, it's nothing but matter of time till they're equal in efficiency in air to air combat, and even if it takes 2 or 3 drones to take one manned plane down, you're probably ahead of the game with it, since they costed, totally half of what that plane was worth.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:38 No.13064208
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    The most effective weapon in the Afghan conflict are line infantry.

    Stupid planefags.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:40 No.13064217
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    I've got 99 problems, but a place in Valhalla ain't one of em.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:51 No.13064268
    Best Unit motto ever.

    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)10:37 No.13064576
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    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)10:55 No.13064654
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    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)10:59 No.13064670
    ... that was "You Gotta Be Shitting Me", right?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)13:32 No.13065756
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    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)15:39 No.13066569
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    sup little dudes?
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/07/10(Tue)16:48 No.13067086
    In that case I shall get to work right away on my pilot.

    Also, my research has turned up the F-4F, an export version of the F-4E currently in used by the German air force. It technically is a 'Nam era plane, but with modern avionics (capable of carrying AIM-120s)

    Sadly, Europe seems to have something against attack helicopters, as the only dedicated attack platform I can find for any European nation is the Euro Tiger. If there was any way I could zip around in an Mi-24 or hell even an AH-6 I would be happy. Hopefully the GM will show up and give me a yes or no on the chopper question.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)17:28 No.13067369
    If we're honest, the Russians developed the attack helicopter in the 1970s. You wouldn't find anything that really fit that description in the 'early' jet age purchasing power era that this group seems to be in. And an F-4 with modern avi is probably beyond purchasing power as well.
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/07/10(Tue)17:37 No.13067428
    Untrue. The AH-1 was deployed in the late 60s, and there were always the up gunned UH-1s and the infamous ACH-47.

    The UH-1s widely exported, so that might work, but they are a little thin skinned for my taste. At least with the AH-6 I would have speed and maneuverability, not to mention less than half the size of the UH-1.
    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)18:30 No.13067844
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    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)18:52 No.13068066
    Is there still room for a newb in this game? Looks awesome.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)19:04 No.13068152
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    The MI-8 was deployed in 1961. The hind in 1969.
    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)19:44 No.13068583
    Not sure. The GM originally called for 4-6 players because he thought that that was the optimum needed for a really solid game.

    As it is it seems like Sgt. Varn's gonna be our sixth member. I dunno, though. The GM might allow for one more, but you'd have to talk to him when (and if) he gets back to us.
    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)19:47 No.13068625
    Which reminds me: We haven't heard from Jackpot since the last session.
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/07/10(Tue)20:02 No.13068838
    The Mi-8 falls in line with the UH-1, it was a transport and utility chopper that they later strapped guns to. If Wikipedia is to be believed, then the AH-1 beat the Hind into production. The AH-1 is listed as being first flown in 1965, and entering service in 1967; the Hind was first flown in 1969, but wasn't introduced to the military until 1972.

    All of this is moot though since neither of them could be classified as "European Defense" The only real Euro attack choppers out there are the Tiger, Brit licensed WAH-64s, and the Italian A129, all of which are far beyond the current funding limit.

    I'm now playing with the idea of going for an F-5, but I'm not sure how well that would work with my idea for a CAS-speced pilot. I might just going for a middle ground jack of all trades sort of pilot instead. Or maybe a pure AtA since there is only one of them in the squad already.

    The GM really needs to get back in here.
    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)20:08 No.13068928
    Another AtA guy WOULD be nice.

    As it is, we've got 2 Jacks of all trades, and 2 AtG guys. And then, there's my guy.

    >2 x Dassault Mirage IIIC
    >1 x English Electric Canberra
    >1 x Blackburn Buccaneer
    >1 x Cessna A-37 Dragonfly
    >> girder 12/07/10(Tue)20:11 No.13068956
    >The GM really needs to get back in here.

    True, but to be fair, he DID warn that the schedule would be irregular. I'm hoping he'll be back around Friday or the weekend to continue from last session.
    >> 'Ranga' Davidson 12/07/10(Tue)20:18 No.13069066
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    I'd love to join in, while the other game on sukhoi's forum is still being prep'd. Most like in a Lightning as a dedicated interceptor
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/07/10(Tue)20:21 No.13069104
    Yea, I'm going to go with the F-5 to start with. It was introduced in the early 60s and was build mainly for export and several European nations used it, so availability shouldn't be a problem.

    I'll probably go with AtG or maybe JoaT, since the Tiger II's only real AA weapons are AIM-9s and 120s, and I'd really like to keep my options open for better AtG stuff later on (crossing fingers for an A-10).

    At a glance a good standard payload would be:
    x2 AIM-9 on wing tip rails
    x2 CBU-24/52/58s under wing
    x2 Matra or LAU-05003 rocket pods under wing
    x1 Mk80 series (looking at the 83 or 84 mostly) centerline
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/08/10(Wed)00:07 No.13071909
    It's looking like this squadron is going to end up having a lot of attackers, with all of the AtG loadouts and specializations that people are taking.
    >> Anonymous 12/08/10(Wed)00:12 No.13071960
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    The IAI Kfir has been severely underrepresented in these threads.

    There have been Mirages, yes, but no Kfirs.

    However, as an Area88 fan, and a fan of the Kfir even before that, I am biased.
    >> Anonymous 12/08/10(Wed)00:39 No.13072215
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    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/08/10(Wed)00:58 No.13072394
    It's because in the BBS medium that we are limited to, AtA is just, well, dull. It's hard to describe a dog fight in an interesting way as well as make it mechanically viable without over simplifying, or being to complex. With AtG you have a much more varied assortment of munitions available to you, and can have fun using them in creative and different ways against a large selection of targets.

    While I'll admit most air superiority fighters are sexy as hell, but ground pounders are just fucking cool. I'd take dropping several hundred pounds of FUCK YOU on some poor sap over splashing some guy with an AMRAAM any day.
    >> "Gatos" Perron 12/08/10(Wed)01:08 No.13072509
    I wouldn't mind being the dedicated ground attack. It seems like the end game would be fun. Everyone else is fighting Raptors and Terminators, while the lone bomber has to handle AA guns, SAMs, terrain, the occasional fighter who thinks he can get a kill, weather, and aiming.

    Dice, dice everywhere.
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/08/10(Wed)01:25 No.13072693
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    Name: Jack Kowalski
    Callsign: Hammer
    Nationality: American
    Age: 29
    Aircraft: Northrop F-5E Tiger II
    Specialization: Air to Mud
    Abilities: "Iron Rain" "Rounds on the Ground"
    Background: Once a proud member of the USAF, Jack "Hammer" Kowalski left the military after nearly 10 years of service to join the private sector, in search of better pay, looser ROE, and even looser women.
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/08/10(Wed)02:47 No.13073513
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    Might as well bump this a little. Should this thread get archived?
    >> surkno much 12/08/10(Wed)03:07 No.13073723

    Already done.
    >> Anonymous 12/08/10(Wed)06:17 No.13074796
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    For Mercs, you guys have your priorities messed up...
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/08/10(Wed)08:24 No.13075409
    It's a matter of balancing getting paid large amounts of money, and staying alive to spend those large amounts of money.

    The Taiwan job probably would have seen us dancing around with PLA fighters, which would have not been fun.
    The Colombian job, while not difficult in itself, would have earned us the ire of the drug cartels. We'd have to kill every single drug lord there to make sure that a hit squad isn't sent after us (we should be paid to kill people; doing it for free is a bad precedent).
    >> girder 12/08/10(Wed)08:46 No.13075515
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    >The Colombian job, while not difficult in itself, would have earned us the ire of the drug cartels. We'd have to kill every single drug lord there to make sure that a hit squad isn't sent after us (we should be paid to kill people; doing it for free is a bad precedent).

    Well that and the fact that it honestly sounded like too easy of a mission, for me anyway. At most the drug dealers would have some of the 'lighter' SAMs available on the black market to deal with COIN aircraft. I doubt they'd have been able to do much against ground-attack jets and dedicated bombers.

    Also, I didn't think it would be much fun killing a drug-runner plane. Turkey shoot and all that.
    >> girder 12/08/10(Wed)08:52 No.13075540
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    Welcome aboard, man!
    >> 'Ranga' Davidson 12/08/10(Wed)10:06 No.13075952
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    Screwby, I'll put my hand in too. Can't guarantee I'll be here when the GM returns, unless someone is willing to put it up on the PAM forums.

    Writeup coming, for now, random wallpaper dump!
    >> 'Ranga' Davidson 12/08/10(Wed)10:20 No.13076013
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    >> girder 12/08/10(Wed)10:24 No.13076033

    For some reason I feel like I should know the name of that plane...but I don't.
    >> 'Ranga' Davidson 12/08/10(Wed)10:24 No.13076039
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    >> Anonymous 12/08/10(Wed)10:31 No.13076078
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    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 12/08/10(Wed)10:33 No.13076090
    S-3 Viking
    >> 'Ranga' Davidson 12/08/10(Wed)10:33 No.13076091
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    oh hai

    WUT DO NOW!!!!

    >streeld small

    Yeah, you better!
    >> 'Ranga' Davidson 12/08/10(Wed)10:39 No.13076135
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    And finally-

    Name: Roger Sowman
    Callsign: Neck
    Nationality: British
    Age: 34
    Aircraft: English Electric Lightning F1
    Specialization: Air to Air
    Abilities: Lead Storm, Where do you think you're going?
    Background: While a talented pilot, his tendency to clash with superiors and get drunk whenever possible eventually resulted into early retirement. Since then, he has been looking for any work that could utilise his skills, and hopefully help him keep his bar tab open...

    About the wargear, though- is it possible to rig the Lightning with Sidewinders or Sparrows? Historically it has either 2 Red Tops or Firestreaks, both poor-mans Sidewinders, about the same size but half the weight of a Sparrow.

    >accuracy glamis

    Yes, I know historically accuracy is more glamorous, but gameplay comes first Captcha!
    >> girder 12/08/10(Wed)10:49 No.13076197
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    Ah, yes now I remember. Carrier aircraft used for anti-submarine warfare.

    Thanks, sukhoi.
    >> girder 12/08/10(Wed)10:55 No.13076245
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    >Aircraft: English Electric Lightning F1

    That reminds me, I need to pick up that model kit I had reserved at the shop.

    >Specialization: Air to Air
    Thank you, I was thinking I'd be the only one in the squadron.

    >About the wargear, though- is it possible to rig the Lightning with Sidewinders or Sparrows? Historically it has either 2 Red Tops or Firestreaks, both poor-mans Sidewinders, about the same size but half the weight of a Sparrow

    Well according to this: http://www.vectorsite.net/aveeltg.html

    >Sidewinder fit had been mocked up on a Lightning in 1982, but that was the sum of it.

    So unless the GM allows you to spend some money on having making some modifications to your aircraft, I think you may have a bit of a problem. On the positive side, your specialization is with your gun armament anyway.
    >> 'Ranga' Davidson 12/08/10(Wed)11:07 No.13076333

    Yeah, last games I've been in I took either a ground-poiunder or EW/SEAD. I just like the idea of getting on the deck and blowing shit up. Might as well try out something more inclined to survive a dogfight.

    I'm not overly concerned over the missiles, not with a pair of 30mm ADEN cannons. Should be able to zoom-and-boom rather effectively.
    >> Anonymous 12/08/10(Wed)11:11 No.13076373
    The lightning kind of exemplifies the 2 second engagement window followed by the 2 minute turn to re-engage.
    >> Anonymous 12/08/10(Wed)14:12 No.13078111
    So, with the two new guys, we've got 7 pilots in this outfit?
    Lot of ground attack, too.
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/08/10(Wed)16:47 No.13079939
    I personally hope that Neck and Hammer will be able to participate, since that's another interceptor to keep enemy fighters busy and another attacker to handle CAS and low-altitude attacks.

    I'm torn between moving towards an EW airframe with some ground attack capabilities, or go completely AWACS and go for one of the dedicated EW and C3 aircraft.
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/08/10(Wed)17:44 No.13080620

    You could always try and grab an E-2, I think that would be a lot easier and more manageable than a full on Boeing 707, much smaller crew requirements as well.

    I question the usefulness of such an plane in our squadron though. Do we really need such a large EW platform? It's not like we need to cover a whole wing worth of planes on a massive battlefield. I would think a single craft with ECM/EW pods would be enough to cover our flight, not to mention still be able to fulfill a SEAD role and/or be able to at least hold their own in a fight.

    An E-2/3 would require much more resources to operate, and require another plane to watch over it. It would also eliminate any chance of steal our flight might have with its huge active radar systems.
    >> Draken fan 12/08/10(Wed)18:05 No.13080834
    I was going to try to do something but with a Jack of All trade char but I don't know.
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/08/10(Wed)20:16 No.13082218
    Admittedly, the Hawkeye might be a little overkill for the level of operations we would engage in. I was thinking of an R-99 if I was to go the dedicated AEWC route.

    For a more versatile aircraft, I was thinking of either an EA-6 Prowler, or if I can afford it, an EA-18 Growler.
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/08/10(Wed)20:34 No.13082405
    I think the EA-6 would be the best pick. It fulfills the EM roles while still being able to handle SEAD and it's own defense in the air.

    I don't think we'll be able to get anything new and shiny like the Growler for some time. Besides, the only big advantage they have over the Prowler is logistical. The US Navy didn't want to have a bunch of different plans all with different part requirements, so they built an EW craft on the Super Hornet frame. Besides, the Growler gets most of its EW capacity from under wing pods.
    >> girder 12/08/10(Wed)21:19 No.13082902
    Okay, so I'm making some additions to the soundtrack and I realize that I have the Battlefield Vietnam OST. So I was wondering if you guys think any of the songs on it would go great added to the Planes & Mercs soundtrack:

    Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Fortunate Son" (opening theme)-As a reference to Platoon (film) and Forrest Gump.
    Edwin Starr - "War"
    Martha Reeves and the Vandellas - "Nowhere to Run"-As a reference to Good Morning, Vietnam.
    The Troggs - "Wild Thing"
    Rare Earth - "Get Ready"
    Canned Heat - "On the Road Again"-As a reference to Tour of Duty (TV series).
    The Guess Who - "Shakin' All Over"
    Count Five - "Psychotic Reaction"
    Deep Purple - "Hush"
    The Kinks - "All Day And All Of The Night"
    The Kinks - "You Really Got Me"
    The Box Tops - "The Letter"
    Jefferson Airplane - "Somebody to Love"
    Bobby Fuller Four - "I Fought the Law"
    Budapest Symphony Orchestra - "The Ride of the Valkyries"-As a reference to Apocalypse Now.
    The Trashmen - "Surfin' Bird"-As a reference to Full Metal Jacket.
    Jefferson Airplane - "White Rabbit" (Menu theme, instrumental remix)-As a reference to Platoon (film).
    >> girder 12/08/10(Wed)21:35 No.13083111


    I can't believe I forgot I also had the Battle of Britain Soundtrack.
    >> Planes & Mercs Unofficial Soundtrack (2nd Edition) girder 12/08/10(Wed)23:39 No.13084656
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    Viola!: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z3K3B3GO

    1. "Solar Angels" - Judas Priest
    2. "Hard As Iron" - Judas Priest
    3. "Radar Rider" - Jerry Riggs
    4. "Holy Diver" - Dio
    5. “Aces High” – Iron Maiden
    6. “Operation Ground and Pound” – Dragonforce
    7. “Highway to Hell” – AC/DC
    8. “Fortunate Son” – Creedence Clearwater Revival
    9. "Don't Stop Me Now" – Queen
    10. "Highway to the Danger Zone" - Kenny Loggins
    11. SWAT Kats Season 2 Theme
    12. “Rock You Like a Hurricane” - The Scorpions
    13. "How Far to Paradise" (Area 88) - Derek Jackson
    14. "How Far to Paradise" (Version 2) - Derek Jackson
    15. “Blade Runner Blues” – Vangelis
    16. "Gortoz a Ran - J'Attends" (performed by Denez Prigent and Lisa Gerrard)
    17. “Paradise Circus” – Massive Attack
    18. The A-Team Theme (Full Version)
    19. Battle of Britain Theme – Ron Goodwin
    20. "The Ride of the Valkyries" - Budapest Symphony Orchestra
    21. "I'm On A Boat" - The Lonely Island ft. T-Pain (For carrier-based missions)
    22. "Oh No You Didn't" (Mercenaries 2 Song)
    >> Anonymous 12/08/10(Wed)23:41 No.13084678

    That gif is fucking awesome.
    >> Anonymous 12/08/10(Wed)23:59 No.13084860
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    You guys need more ground support.
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/09/10(Thu)01:36 No.13085830
    If we could afford B-52 support, then we would not have to be mercenaries.
    As for getting infantry mercs to help us out, that's more for our company to worry about.
    >> Sgt. Varn !q8XtSW4.HY 12/09/10(Thu)02:06 No.13086132
    That list is in dire need of more Hendrix.

    Other considerations:
    Hammerfall- Any Means Necessary
    Powerman 5000- Action
    Rob Zombie- Dragula
    White Stripes- 7 Nation Army

    Someone really needs to track the GM down and beat him with a stick so he learns not to take so long in getting back to his game.
    >> 'Ranga' Davidson 12/09/10(Thu)02:51 No.13086525
    I'd personally go for Motorhead (Killed by Death and Funny Farm) and various selections from the Ace Combat series (specifically Fire Youngman, Ripping Air, Alect Squadron and Mayhem) in addition to what you've got there. Also +1 to Rob Zombie, suits the mud-movers at any rate.
    >> Anonymous 12/09/10(Thu)03:30 No.13086860
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    Some stuff from Iron Eagle maybe?
    >> Anonymous 12/09/10(Thu)04:33 No.13087256
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    >> girder 12/09/10(Thu)06:13 No.13087635
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    >> Nuclear war Anonymous 12/09/10(Thu)06:34 No.13087727
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    Given the love /tg/ has for Planes and Mercs, would this crowd be interested in a nuclear war bombing quest involving the crew of a Tu-16? I'd do the pre-quest stuff at 4 p.m. PST Tuesday, and the quest stuff at 4 p.m. PST Wednesday, if those times work.
    >> Anonymous 12/09/10(Thu)09:11 No.13088727
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    >> Anonymous 12/09/10(Thu)09:26 No.13088849
    That looks scary just standing still.
    >> girder 12/09/10(Thu)11:14 No.13089688
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    Pfft. That's not scary.

    THIS is SCARY.
    >> girder 12/09/10(Thu)11:15 No.13089691
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    This one's even scarier.
    >> girder 12/09/10(Thu)11:19 No.13089716
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    And here's a bigger/higher quality photo.
    >> Jack "Flapjack" Morrison 12/09/10(Thu)13:36 No.13090649
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    Hey, at least we won't have to deal with these guys.
    SAMs AND Tactical Laser pods, on a high mobility vehicle frame.
    >> Anonymous 12/09/10(Thu)13:43 No.13090703
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    >> Da Killboss 12/09/10(Thu)18:15 No.13092815
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    I personally like the old Zues 23-4. Something about a tank that has such an insane firerate that if it fires a long enough burst, it won't stop firing til it's out of ammo. Just seems proper Russian to me.
    >> girder 12/09/10(Thu)18:57 No.13093284
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    >> Anonymous 12/09/10(Thu)20:13 No.13093996
    Wait! Is it ZSU-23-4M3? I don't see any radar so it must be it - vehicle for killing ragheads in mountains and cities.

    >great leempt
    >> Anonymous 12/09/10(Thu)20:15 No.13094016
    Every time i see this thread, i have the urge to fire up my PS2 and play the fuck out of Ace Combat 4, 5 and 0, have yet to find 6.

    >>Conflict Mumposs
    i think captcha is trying to tell me something.
    >> Anonymous 12/09/10(Thu)20:17 No.13094039

    I think the radar is behind the commander's head.
    >> 'Ranga' Davidson 12/09/10(Thu)20:32 No.13094218

    Dammit, I have that need now too! And also the need to fire up my PS3 and play some AC2 (nice thing about the PS3, it may not have games but PSX ones work fine)

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