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    21 KB Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:06 No.12739103  
    You have an hour, at which point you will be sent back in time to 1895, with an exclaiming Nikola Tesla yelling "It works, It works!", before the machine behind you bursts into flames, trapping you in the time period.
    What do you bring with you?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:07 No.12739123
    David Bowie
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:08 No.12739129
    I bring worship for Tesla.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:09 No.12739141
    the internet.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:09 No.12739149
    How the fuck can you find David Bowie in an hour?
    Let's just say your plan works, you are in 1895 with Nikola Tesla, and David Bowie.
    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:10 No.12739164
    doc brown and a delorean
    you know, so i can get back to the future
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:10 No.12739168
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    Nothing technological as he could just make it if I asked him.

    So I bring a library full of all the sports results and stock market values and other such prescient goodness 1895-2010.

    Time to get rich and fund the shit out of his research, fuck Edison, long live SCIENCE
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:11 No.12739172
    I stand back and let the magic happen.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:11 No.12739181
    What do you mean what now?


    >colmesse ofEbenezer
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:12 No.12739186
    He doesn't give a fuck about money.
    Wasn't that obvious?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:12 No.12739188
    Back to the Future Mind
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:13 No.12739195
    As much information on Edison as I can get my hands on, preferably the incriminating kind.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:13 No.12739200
    Magic Cards.

    And then I retire, living in opulence.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:14 No.12739205
    He did give a damn about having money for research, which is the purpose of rigging a fortune.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:14 No.12739211
    A computer and any possible computer-related accesories. You will thank me when, by the year 2000 we will have created AI.

    Time to set technology on overdrive.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:15 No.12739215
    I'd get a Roomba.
    For shits and giggles
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:16 No.12739221

    >and larapin

    That too Captcha, thanks.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:16 No.12739223
    Download as much info about military developments over the next 100 years as well as records of battles fought in that time (i.e. who won, how etc), an external storage device with in-built battery, a kindle and a solar-charger.

    Sell military secrets for the rest of my life.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:17 No.12739234
    Schematics for silicon-based technology. Let Tesla invent the personal computer. When I get there I grab a gun, find Edison, and pistol-whip him until he begs for the bullet.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:18 No.12739243
    You do realize that information would be good for 10 years, tops right?
    Because acting on that information would change history, and thus the course of the future
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:20 No.12739254
    Unless his traveling back in time and selling those secrets is what made history take the course that it did. Cue recursion theory of time travel.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:20 No.12739260
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    AI, you say?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:21 No.12739261
    We have no way of knowing
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:21 No.12739266
    Edison wasn't that bad, you guys.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:22 No.12739281
    Edisons cloned mind-uploaded puppet detected
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:23 No.12739287
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    I don't understand all the hype around tesla.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:23 No.12739288
    The technology to upload the mind was of course made by Tesla
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:23 No.12739291
    Edison fucked over Tesla. If Edison had let him be, we'd probably be on mars by now.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:24 No.12739293
    Edison detected.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:24 No.12739298
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    I would do all in my power to insure that mein furher would win WW2 of course.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:25 No.12739306
    schematics for an AK-47 rifle, and cars from the 1950s as well as schematics for a sesna plane, I would also bring like mentioned before the numbers for every lottery in GA (Where I reside) as well as stock market reports
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:25 No.12739308
    If Edison had let him be, we would all be cruising around space unprotected in our electric god-men bodies.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:26 No.12739313
    My android phone with stores of books on it, help tesla unlock the secret of the atom while predicting history.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:26 No.12739314
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    Bowie is disappoint.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:26 No.12739317

    Because playing with dangerous forms of electricity will get us on Mars. Right.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:26 No.12739320

    A Gundam series set during an alternate WWII. I would watch this so hard. So hard.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:28 No.12739337
    You just don't see the big picture at all
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:28 No.12739340
    And playing with dangerous forms of propellant, tubes, and ridiculously complex electric circuits (oh boy COMPUTERS) is....?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:30 No.12739355
    Lick a plug socket and find out!
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:30 No.12739357
    Electricity => electronics => computers => space travel

    As long as the mechanics of flight are progressing parallel, we've got a recipe for space colonization.

    You ever play Civilization, son?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:30 No.12739360

    I just don't understand why people worship a failed scientist when there was an actual inventor who made millions working hard with his loyal assistants.

    People just love underdogs, I guess.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:32 No.12739370
    What part of death-ray don't you understand? The man was trying to build lasers!
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:32 No.12739373
    read your economics history.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:33 No.12739375
    Who worked hard stealing ideas and being a total arsehole to his competitors, earning money more from cynical business sense than ingenuity.

    There's no denying Edison was a genius, but he was a dick foremost, genius second, and he stopped many another a genius from doing what they did best, just because that would threaten Edison.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:34 No.12739382
    Maybe you should look into why he "failed".
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:35 No.12739390
    I don't get why people worship tesla, and I don't get why you (weren't you trolling) worship edison.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:35 No.12739391

    That's why people should like Edison more. Not only was did he have the talent, he had the vision.

    So many artists and scientists aren't businessmen, so progress is never made. To actually change things, you have to get your hands dirty, and if it means taking down the competition, that's business.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:36 No.12739403
    Edison learned Bill Gates all he knows (about ruthless business tactics).
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:36 No.12739406
    I bring an ounce of marijuana
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:36 No.12739407

    Ayn Rand detected.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:37 No.12739410
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    You ivory tower intellectuals must not lose touch with the world of industrial growth and hard currency. It is all very well and good to pursue these high-minded scientific theories, but research grants are expensive. You must justify your existence by providing not only knowledge but concrete and profitable applications as well.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:37 No.12739412
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    I should like someone for setting back technological progress just so he could get money and fame?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:38 No.12739424
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    You are now aware that Trowa and Quattre would be a german wehrmacht major and muslim waffen SS hauptman madly in love.
    And that Duo would be a marine born on the mean street of new york and together with the japanese formerly fanatical kamikazepilot Heero they would show America and japan that love conquers all.
    Wufei would probably be smoking opium in some dingy cantina in india, sulking over the fact that he will never have kawaii bishie boyfriend.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:39 No.12739426
    Now I know you trollin'.

    It was better than usual, five points!
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:39 No.12739428

    Edison did not set back technological process and you should get rid of the scrub mentality that makes you relate to the likes of Tesla.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:40 No.12739434
    Sure. Einstein didn't change anything due to being dedicated to sciencing.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:40 No.12739436

    If he didn't aim for money and fame, then we'd still be using candles.

    Technology is not to be made simply for the love of technology, it is made to be purchased and idolized and used. Tesla didn't want to do that, so Edison jumped ahead.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:41 No.12739445
    And after you're done, Tesla shows you what a couple of volts applied directly to the brainmeats can do. I doubt he would be impressed by any hallucinogen you could bring.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:42 No.12739449

    It's true, he didn't. The people that used his theories for real use did. Edison worked both sides of the coin, and that's why he is remembered, and Tesla is a footnote.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:44 No.12739466
    No one would ever see the utility of electricity if they didn't pay for it ?

    Then why would they pay for it in the first place ?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:45 No.12739481

    So that people will have an incentive to maintain the electricity.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:46 No.12739486
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    I bring my regards from /sci/
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:46 No.12739489
    Especially since marijuana was relatively common at that time.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:47 No.12739494
    If other people can implement your idea it doesn't fucking matter you do not do it yourself.

    This is so bloody elementary you could build quarks out of it.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:48 No.12739500
    Failed scientist? With any chance, your computer feeds off alternating current, invented by Nikola Tesla.

    Particle beams. Also, peace ray.

    Also, what I'd bring is my computer with paraphernalia, after loading as much raw data on patents made after 1895 as possible. Enough stuff to jumpstart progress for over half a century. I already have half of it it on my harddisk anyway. Thankfully, it's in a steel casing, which acts as a Faraday cage and protects it from the side effects of Tesla's inventions.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:49 No.12739510
    I'd bring an amp and an electric guitar.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:51 No.12739521

    Applies in politics too. Marx died as a dirty poorfag and Trotsky got a pickaxe in his skull in Mexico, but Stalin who understood the harsh reality of politics and knew how to manouver in it turned the Soviet Union into the greatest superpower Eurasia, debatably the world, has ever seen. The modern pathetic remnants of the great Communist movement revile Stalin and revere the failures, no wonder they are ever pushed into the margins.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:51 No.12739524
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:54 No.12739540
    That's either common knowledge or skip the practical side of things. Mostly useless.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:55 No.12739550
    >greatest superpower Eurasia, debatably the world

    British empire, mongol empire, roman empire and current america would not agree im afraid, soviet was shit from start to beginning, the world would have been much further along if the germans had continued to be the main superpower of continental europe.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)16:59 No.12739575
    Actually, a minority are still stalinists, and don't achieve anything anyway.
    Also, trotskysts are quite goal-oriented, control being the goal.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:01 No.12739591
    Germany never was.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:05 No.12739612
    >implying trotskyites are going to be in control of anything except a couple of dirty attics and cafeterias

    Trotskyites are nothing in global or national stage and will stay like that forever, even Juche is a vibrant colossus of communist thought in comparison to them.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:06 No.12739617
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    Beware, you who seek first and final principles, for you are trampling in the garden of an angry God, and he awaits you just beyond the last theorem.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:06 No.12739618
    Rome was pretty small time in many ways.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:07 No.12739624
    Reporting the politrolls as fast as captcha allows.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:07 No.12739626
    >stands up to the British Empire, France, and Russia simultaneously
    >Kicks Russia's ass and takes a ton of land while maintaining the status quo on the western front
    >only falls due to starvation at the hands of the greatest navy in the world, after 4 years of constant blockade, Coupled with the introduction of american troops.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:08 No.12739630
    I'd show him the designs of the LHC
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:08 No.12739633
    Suck my Chaos Guns, you ginger cunt. Your long string of betrayals ends here.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:09 No.12739636
    The problem with Edison is that he's gone down as this amazing scientist when in reality he stole basically everything people credit him with.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:10 No.12739646
    My computer, as many UPSes as possible, a printer, lots of paper, and as much science info as I can torrent/pagegrab in an hour.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:10 No.12739648
    >Trotskyites are nothing in global or national stage and will stay like that forever
    Probably. That doesn't prevent them from being dedicated to harsh politics and maneuvering. Being assholes with a vision isn't sufficient, nor necessary, to succeed.

    To sum up, you're wrong, but you already knew that.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:11 No.12739659
    Kind of like americans claim they have invented a bunch of stuff even though the inventors who did it was europeans who had moved to america?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:12 No.12739669
    Tell him to build a giant robot.

    Make him fight the elder god Edison summoned.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:13 No.12739670
    America is composed of immigrants, so, you know. Arguments and such.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:14 No.12739674
    Books on quantum physics and Einstein's papers on relativity, to troll him with.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:14 No.12739681
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    >Mfw his motherboard burns out and the computer is useless.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:15 No.12739689
    I grab my laptop, my camping solar charger for it, and a mouse. it's already loaded with all my "so you've been sent back..." infographics, plus tons of other shit.

    I'd bail on tesla, and just find a nice house to buy, win some lottos, invest in upstarts like american steel and whatnot. possibly even fuck with other aspects of the timeline when I'm rich.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:15 No.12739694
    the inventors quickly identified as american, and in most of their homelands they stood no chance of amounting to as much as they could in america. Patents and a general eagerness for new inventions made America during the 19th century the most inventor-friendly country in the world, rivaled only by the UK.
    To put it short, the inventors themselves would accredit their success to a large part to America.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:16 No.12739698

    Stalin was a goal-oriented asshole with a vision. Modern trotskyites are capable of crude aping of him at best in their pitiful efforts. Being dedicated to harsh politics and maneuvering indeed means nothing if you are worse at it than everyone else, like the trotskyites are.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:16 No.12739701
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:18 No.12739710
    Cross out his name and replace it with your own, then talk to him about his theories and be like "Sorry, dud, but I already discovered that. See my book."
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:19 No.12739715
    But..it's true? Indians are the only real americans.
    >> Bi-polar Hernandez !KuKq0dYqkQ 11/09/10(Tue)17:19 No.12739717
    Part of the components for a tesla gun, He could do the rest.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:20 No.12739725
    >Modern trotskyites are capable of crude aping of him at best in their pitiful efforts.
    No, they use their own methods. Their failure lies in the fact that everyone concerned know about that.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:20 No.12739728
    Designs and schematics for the transistor. Screw Vacuum tubes, we need real computers!
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:21 No.12739732

    Saying immigrants who move to America from Europe are Europeans still, not Americans, is like saying Wartortles are Squirtles.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:22 No.12739739
    Wait what?!


    Oh good I didn't forget my towel

    All is well
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:22 No.12739743
    Indians aren't native to the continent either. In fact, they pushed out the residents of the time, just like the Europeans did to them. Funny how things work out.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:22 No.12739748
    I bring a book on digital technologies, science applied to engineering, MIPS, and an external HD containing medical research, green energy and psychological and cultural studies.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:24 No.12739760
    You're bringing an external hard drive but not a computer?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:25 No.12739764
    But then why does americans identify so strongly with european ethnicity, american-italian. irish-american, african-american and so on.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:25 No.12739770
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:26 No.12739776
    You know Tesla is going to want to tackle that one by himself.

    The books are for HIM
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:27 No.12739779
    There were humans in America before the indians came there?
    >> SneakThief !!RzBJ3nkcgJc 11/09/10(Tue)17:28 No.12739783
    Locate textbooks in modern medicine, conveniently stashed upstairs. Grab them. Then, get enough lottery/investment records via the internet to avail myself of funds in the past.

    Travel to Sweden, with a brief stop-over in Norway to deliver these books to Henrik Ibsen's physician and instruct him in the careful and applied use of these techniques with regards to treatment of clots and stroke. Also, stop over to have a chat with Knut Hamsun and tell him not to be an ass regarding Hitler and Goebbels, and obtain English-language rights for "Hunger".

    Go to Sweden. Grant large research grant to August Strindberg. Begin swift translation of "Inferno" into both Swedish and English.

    I don't know why you motherfuckers are so obsessed with Tesla and Edison. I'm gonna change literary history as we know it, improving it for the better and ensuring that we get to read Ibsen's final cycle of plays.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:29 No.12739795
    America is Frankenstein's monster, cobbled together from scraps of the rest of the world's culture.

    You know what's great? All humans have claim to Africa, because that's where our species first appeared (according to current theory... I think).
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:30 No.12739808
    A shit ton of gold
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:32 No.12739817
    Read this: http://goarchie.com/aashid/BeforeIndians.html

    It's entertaining.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:37 No.12739861
    >change literary history as we know it
    The MEN are talking science, so if you would kindly go be useless elsewhere that would be great.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:43 No.12739913
    laptop and some other tech that tesla can fiddle with, some books on quantum physcis & other science related, history books, download some medical articles so they can fix polio and stuff, also what proof we have for global warming so that can be prevented

    cry as I'm going to be captured by the goverment, have my existance covered up, and kept isolated and interrogated daily for the rest of my life
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:46 No.12739945
    But with the technology you provide Tesla, he will surely rescue you on a flying unicorn made of freedom and clean-burning AC.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:46 No.12739947
    Not if you get Tesla to make you an anti-government unlimited quantum electric effect ray. Or flee to somewhere lawless, like Australia.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:48 No.12739962
    OP why did you post a picture of Christian Bale?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:49 No.12739964
    >Or flee to somewhere lawless, like the moon
    >> SneakThief !!RzBJ3nkcgJc 11/09/10(Tue)17:50 No.12739974
    Yeah, science is important, but we're talking an opportunity to go to the past. Here's the thing; you'll be trapped there. And no matter how brilliant we think Tesla is, due to the rate of science's advancement, not to mention the slow advancements we have these days DESPITE a higher education standard, more advanced practices, greater respect for the field, et. al. which were all being founded around that time.

    So, basically, what you do won't affect shit while you're there. What I'll do will give me some interesting shit to occupy myself with, all without the problem of getting black-bagged by one of the many, many deadly governments who won't want some sort of insane future-traveler fucking up their carefully-made plans of war and technological control.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:54 No.12740001
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    >mfw there is a lightbulb half-buried in dust at the landing zone
    >lettering on bulb says "you cannot escape him"
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    >implying literature isn't manly
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)17:59 No.12740051
    You think bringing back a cache of knowledge from the fucking future won't affect shit for the decades you still have left in your lifespan?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)18:01 No.12740069
    Realisticly i´d grap my pc, all the glorious hardware to be looked at and the big heavy science books i have around + study stuff. That should give humanity a nice boost.
    >> SneakThief !!RzBJ3nkcgJc 11/09/10(Tue)18:06 No.12740109
    Yeah, it'll change things. Won't bring them up to the modern standard that you're all used to. Tesla is not going to magically create the infrastructure necessary for large-scale computing. Assuming that computers are managed by Tesla, if WWII happens, it will be a complete bitch because the codes will be magnitudes more difficult to deal with, due to the relation of crypto and computing.

    I mean, shit, I'd rather shack up in a little estate in the northern reaches of Scandinavia and spend my time reading the altered literary history of mankind, not sitting around in a grimy lab watching Tesla attach electrodes to his nipples so that he can gain inspiration.

    Remember; you don't see a lot of the science that gets done right now. Even then, it's not leading to a ridiculously huge number of amazing breakthroughs. Fuck, the Nobel Prize was for GRAPHENE, which we've yet to see the use of, and we have powerful, modern production facilities. Do you think that the folks in 1895 are going to have the capability to produce that technology for at least 20 years?

    Not to mention the changes might mean you never get Turing, due to field alterations and the effect that it might have upon his upbringing.

    Whereas I will get to enjoy reading a whole new cycle of literature that we knew could exist, but failed due to the crappy medicine of the era.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)18:16 No.12740201
    If Tesla made his time machine and it exploded, I'd encourage him to rebuild it and use it to bring some friends, after sending notice way in advance. You know, taking the slow way around by delivering letters to myself via my ancestors, with clear instructions not to open them. My great-grandparents survived long enough that I knew them, and I know where they lived. With a few years in preparation, I could really jumpstart shit.

    All that assumes that he can just fetch people from the future. If the machine can do more, the possibilities are endless.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)18:40 No.12740404
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    >download schematics and explanations for various technologies to the laptop. Charge battery.
    >Go to library, check out introductory books on circuits, lasers, nuclear power, penicillin, airplane flight, and refrigerator design.
    >Construct mighty empire of industry with Tesla
    >Take turns crapping in Edison's breakfast cereal

    Great success!
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)18:45 No.12740443
    His primary flaw was that he was a foreigner, so nobody trusted him. With me as his spokesperson, we'll crush Edison and his petty DC.
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    ITT: yfw the Spanish Flu rears its ugly head
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)18:50 No.12740483
    >implying the Spanish Flu was particularly terrible for any reason except that it hit during trench warfare in WWI
    >implying I won't have advance American warfare to the point where we'll laugh at European War I, only participating with jet fighters if we feel like it
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    >Spanish Flu


    Forgot about that shit. What's the time frame for it?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)18:52 No.12740499
    >implying a disease with a killscore in the millions will not still be dangerous
    >implying America turtling is not a bad thing
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)18:56 No.12740536
    1918 to 1920.

    in two years 50 to 100 million people dead. And this was when mass inoculation was around.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)18:57 No.12740541
    >implying that under the same conditions, the regular, yearly flu wouldn't have a killscore in the millions
    >implying I didn't specifically bring back nuclear tech, allowing the US to bomb the Kaiser off the map at will
    >implying the discovery of penicillin 30 years early won't make America the healthiest nation in the world
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)19:01 No.12740579
    >allowing the US to bomb the Kaiser off the map at will

    Why the fuck would you do that? Prevent the war from happening in the first place. Hell just make the Entente lose it instead.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)19:03 No.12740608
    You mean kill Guillermo Princip. perhaps the single most destructive idiot in all of history?

    I don't know. Messing with Time is one thing. Messing with that level of idiocy is quite another.
    >> BLARGH!!! 11/09/10(Tue)19:05 No.12740624
    Dice bag, books, clothing, gun.

    Him & I will create a gun factory/ RPG publishing company.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)19:08 No.12740644
    >Gavrilo Princip

    Derp. I fail names.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)19:13 No.12740685
    yeah do that. Francis Ferdinand was going to turn Austria-Hungary into something that would give all Non-German and Non-Hungarian minorities more autonomy and power in the government which is what most of them wanted anyway. This will mean that Central Europe doesn't become the shithole it did after the Allies broke up the Empire.

    Russia was guaranteed to collapse into revolution sooner or later anyway.

    France was getting all pissy over losing to Germany back in the 1860's and wanted the war as much as anyone else and got more then they bargained for and then threw a bitch fit when things didn't go their way. Fuck them. Alsace-Lorraine was mostly German anyway.

    The Ottoman Empire doesn't get dissolved which means they can finally modernize and that means the Middle East stays stable instead of turning into the clusterfuck it is today.

    Germany doesn't get an inch away from victory only to have it snatched away purely because it's too ex hasted to fight anymore, that means no Hitler.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)19:13 No.12740695
    I'll bring every single physics and chemistry-related book or manual I have, a generator, and a computer.

    Also some modern 'texts', definitely authentic, that describe the inferiority of the gypises and niggers, and how said races are poison to civilised society.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)19:16 No.12740719
    a flying saucer
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)19:25 No.12740809
    I dunno, man. Have you looked at the story of that assassination? He was buying himself a goddamn sandwich, and Archduke Fucking Ferdinand's car stopped outside the front window of his favorite Oops-We-Failed-To-Kill-An-Important-Figure Cafe because the driver had gotten lost. While this might have been a "funny coincidence" moment, the car then broke down, giving numbnuts time to walk out, shoot Ferdinand and his wife, fail at shooting himself in the face, fail at killing himself via cyanide pill, then fail to shoot himself again before the police got to him.

    I worry that any attempt to prevent Gavrilo Princip from succeeding in his mission will end up killing you in the most ridiculous and accidental way possible.

    Maybe we should just convince Wilhelm that Germany really doesn't need Austria-Hungary, and that treaty ought to just go away. Would they back down without the support of the German Empire?
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)19:28 No.12740825
    You'll have to explain to Nikolai why those texts are in German and published 80 years before the time you came from.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)19:37 No.12740897
    >Would they back down without the support of the German Empire?
    Yes. They only reason they were so enthusiastic was because Germany gave them their full support.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)19:39 No.12740911
    I assumed so, but you know how history is. Didn't want to find out my understanding was built on my history teachers thinking "Germany's still a country, so obviously it was more important to the war!"
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)19:40 No.12740917
    The simplest way to change history would be to change the course of the Austro-Prussian War, reviving the Holy Roman Empire under Habsburg's leadership.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)19:42 No.12740937

    We're far too late for that, showing up in 1895.
    >> Commissar !nqFUKLAWj6 11/09/10(Tue)19:43 No.12740944
    Warren Spector, and then we go to Mars.

    I've played that game, OP, you're not fooling anyone.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)19:58 No.12741091
    I think you don't understand how RETARDED the world would be if Direct Current would have won the Current wars.


    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:18 No.12741244
    A Steampunk graphic novel published by DC?
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)20:22 No.12741279


    So close.

    Decent book, btw.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:25 No.12741306
    Evidence that this event has already been tampered with/"fixed" by various time travelers.

    Good event to stay away from, if you ask me.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:27 No.12741328
    I would tell Tesla to stay alive until 1945 so he could see an atomic weapon.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)20:29 No.12741355
    Hmmm. An interesting proposition.

    What, under your hypothesis, caused these time travelers to come back and cause WWI?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:45 No.12741513
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    Maybe if they hadn't World War Zero would have happened.
    Basically World War 1 extending for over 60 years.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:46 No.12741518

    Who knows? I mean, working off of Back 2 the Future physics, I assume that this is the original time-stream and that whatever-alternate time-stream the time-tamperers hailed from has been erased from existence.

    Of course, this is just a cognitive bias on my part, it seems equally plausible I guess that THIS is the alternative time-stream, and that the original time stream is one in which Ferdinands assassination was thwarted, which would be effectively unknowable to us.

    This is of course, going completely off of my understanding of the inner workings of time travel, which as you may have inferred... was gleaned from a Ron Howard film.

    Captcha: Saused From

    Yes Captcha, Saused from Ron Howard.
    >> Library Lass 11/09/10(Tue)20:48 No.12741538
    I think you mean Rob Zemeckis.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:48 No.12741544
    This guy wins. Gold is a great conductor, and he probably popped through because of the warp breach he produced.

    Maybe that was Mr T's plan all along.

    I'd grab anything to make me rich (gold, silver, high quality tools) and then grab my Haynes manual, an abridged Encyclopedia, and a few textbooks. THEN I'd have at my disposal enough shit for him to apprentice me. Oh, and some of those gloves that are super-insulators so I don't fry myself.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)20:49 No.12741546
    Interesting. So, more along the lines of an opportunistic assault by a Versailles-free Germany on a collapsing Russia, leading to France and Britain flanking it? Without any central power to unite Russia, even General Winter could not drive off the stalwart German soldiers...?
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:49 No.12741552
    Porn... sweet porn.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:51 No.12741569
    Yeah, you could also go with Dragon Ball Z time travel physics.

    when you change the past you create an alternate timeline. But that timeline doesn't change anything in your future because it creates a new one. If your time machine is sophisticated enough you can travel between timelines and return to your original one.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:52 No.12741582
    Derp, my bad.

    I'm interested in hearing more conjecture of an alternate future history.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)20:54 No.12741609
    I don't remember anon.
    It was long time ago and on a PS2, as an avid PC gamer it was quite frustrating for me to play it, I don't believe I finished the game.
    and while the game itself was poop, the story and details where kinda awesome.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)20:55 No.12741611
    That made no goddamn sense, and you know it. Cell came from that same timeline, after Trunks came back (he murdered the hell out of Trunks and hopped into the machine, piloting it into the past even though he was just an inanimate egg and didn't know how it worked...), but the whole ending is Trunks fucking destroying Cell in the future, preventing the Cell timeline from existing at all.

    Seriously, what impetus is there to go back in time and give a virus cure to the savior of mankind if there's literally no way to experience or be folded into the glorious timeline that you create? It's nonsensical through and through.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:03 No.12741700
    He didn't knew it at the time.

    When he returned and saw everything was still the same he came back to the time before the battle to aid in case something went wrong.

    But its freaking Dragon Ball Z!, and you shouldn't be watching it before turning off your brain anyway.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:05 No.12741712
    no the backstory is this one.
    In the game's backstory, World War One never ended in 1918 and dragged well into the 1960s. The reason behind this was a charismatic White Russian general, a certain Baron Ugenberg. He managed to unite lots of former Tsarist soldiers and warriors from Siberian and Mongolian tribes under his banner during the Russian Civil War. With the help of their constantly growing numbers, he succeded in crushing the Bolshevik Revolution and reuniting former Tsarist Russia, grandiously renaming it "the Russo-Mongolian Empire". But his conquest didn't end there, as he decided to build a mighty pan-Eurasian empire, having delussions of being a modern day successor of Genghis Khan. He succeded in claiming the entire eastern half of Europe. The frontlines between his newly founded empire and the remaining western democracies came to a halt in the late 1920s, cutting Germany in half. The game starts in early 1964, when the United States of Western Europe manage to discover information about a secret Doomsday Device being built by the baron's scientists. Enter you, lieutenant James Anderson, an aging Shell Shocked Veteran, sent on a suicide mission behind enemy lines in order to locate and neutralize the secret weapon project.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:05 No.12741713
    I bring back as much porn as I can fit/download in one hour.

    Oh and the books about SCIENCE! those would probably be good too. But porn first. Lets see how the people in 1865 handle ass to mouth.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)21:11 No.12741759
    Well, I'm thinking that without the rest of the Western world having that inter-war period to make Germany look Third World, it could have had enough of a force to challenge Russia (hell, had Hitler not interfered with the generals and Russia not had a sudden infusion of Siberian Commandos, Hitler might have taken Stalingrad and/or Leningrad...). With the Eastern Front more or less settled (a mid-revolution Russia would be shaky to rule, but much easier to keep under your thumb than fucking Stalin-era Soviet Russia) at the Urals, Germany could devote its full force at the Western Front. With American riding in mid-war like they always do, thinking they're Big Damn Heroes, the Front settles mere miles away from Paris.

    This stays more or less static (with constant entrenched combat, but little ground gained or lost) as the Empires of France, Germany, and Britain fight proxy wars through their territories, colonies, and satellite states, a sort of Cold War within a World War.

    Meanwhile, two downtrodden soldiers, one German named Adolf and his erstwhile guerrilla friend, a Russian named Josef, come up with a daring plan to end the war...
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:12 No.12741763
    Hmm, I havent yet actually considered the question posed by OP:

    Given that I have foreknowledge that this is going to happen (somehow), I'll bring whatever books on Tesla/Edison I can find, just to ruin/make Teslas day.

    A newspaper, to prove my origin in the timestream.

    & an electric guitar/amplifier, which I demand that Tesla somehow make work, and/or emulate. (knowing full well that it runs on AC, thusly risking butthurting Tesla further.)
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)21:15 No.12741798
    >runs on AC
    >Tesla's current of choice

    This would be vindicating as shit, man.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:16 No.12741804
    Why would an Instrument that runs on his electricity make him butthurt.

    He will probably whip out his own and proclaim.
    "FINALLY!, I have found a worthy opponent"

    and then he will challenge you to the first ever Rock Off recorded in history.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)21:17 No.12741822
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    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:18 No.12741828
    So my ignorance would be... awesome.

    works for me.

    Honestly, thats how I imagine most unwitting time travel scenarios turning out.
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    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:31 No.12741954
    I have a book I always keep in reach in case I do suddenly time travel. It's the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics". It contains almost everything you need to know about modern Chemistry and Physics. I also keep a handy Pocket Ref book around.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)21:33 No.12741972
    Ooo, addition to mine: I bring my Zune. It's bricked, so I won't have to worry that they'll be taking apart a now-unique bit of machinery without understanding the software. The software doesn't work. Take it apart and learn, Nicky.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:35 No.12741988
    Pocket Ref is my Hitchhiker's Guide
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:38 No.12742009
    All my history books, all the modern medical supplies I can find, my Boy Scout Handbook, and as many printed pages of useful information from the Internet as I can print in that time. (More medical stuff, stock and sport information etc) I might also drag along a number of works of fiction, that I might preempt various authors, and be wealthy. If I can find usable diagrams or theoretical underpinnings to any inventions that can be made with that tech base, I take those, and swiftly copyright them.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:40 No.12742027
    Haha. Yeah, I guess I amend what I said to "All my fucking textbooks, the rest of the stuff, and whatever I can print out in regards to useful information, including modern science" Play my cards right, and good old Albert Einstein might get some more work done, for instance.

    (Ooh, the possibilities. Sucking people from the future into the past. It's like the whole Xeelee scenario. They basically cheated like that, to get so powerful, afterall.)
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)21:42 No.12742044
    >history books
    >stock info

    How illogical.

    You are assuming that historians know how events are predicted to unfold - the contrary. Your very presence has altered the flow of history, beginning with the destruction of Tesla's time machine, thereby creating an entire new chain of incidents that cannot be anticipated by any book you bring along.

    (That movie may have mangled the timeline in the long run, but that one quote was correct)
    >> SneakThief !!RzBJ3nkcgJc 11/09/10(Tue)21:50 No.12742105
    Oh god, author pre-emption. You will destroy modern literature as we know it, as the lack of a traceable source/influence and the changes in literary history will cause horrible, horrible things to happen. Then again, it's literature and not SCIENCE, so I don't really expect people to give much of a damn.

    Also: good luck getting published and distributed without a pre-existing relationship with a publishing group. Additional, some of the more zealous writers, upon seeing that their writing style is being copied, will sweep in like avenging angels and silence you. That, or the publishers, seeing a similarity in style to the works of other writers, will simply assign them to their already-stable and frequently drunk progeny.

    Which may have already happened, come to think of it.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:52 No.12742124
    >What do you bring with you?

    Various viruses and bacilli which would most likely wipe out all that non-immunised life within a few months.

    Be a FUN few months, though.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:52 No.12742125
    All my EE textbooks. If I'm going to go hang with the fucking man himself, I may as well hand him the next hundred years of development in the field and see what he makes of it.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:55 No.12742145

    just preempt authors who aren't even born yet.


    >implying anyone would give a shit about destroying the field of modern literature as we know it
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)21:57 No.12742164
    As many firearms and as much ammunition me and my girlfriend can gather in an hour.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)21:58 No.12742167

    >implying anybody would KNOW that you've destroyed the landscape of modern literature

    Being that you're from a now-alternate future and all...
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)22:07 No.12742248

    I don't really see what impact that would have. there were already semi-auto pistols and machineguns and shit.
    >> SneakThief !!RzBJ3nkcgJc 11/09/10(Tue)22:07 No.12742258
    You've obviously never studied critical theory or any type of writing influence. A big part of it is understanding the context and facts behind a particular work, and using that to map influences. Authors do not magically germinate works, they spring from somewhere, and are related to their times. What bringing a few books in would do is as follows;

    Random guy publishes several books. All of them have distinctly different writing styles. Several of them fail, because the place society/outrage from random critics is not able to accept this. Literary scholars, studying these books, realize that no coherent style exists within them, and that no circumstances suggest that the author wrote them.

    Scholars grow in outrage. Backlash makes it to the government. Manuscripts are demanded, along with interpretations of the work. Critics denounce writer as a plagarist, demand to know sources of works. Books begin to sell well due to outrage.

    Jumbled works are found annoying. The original authors (assuming you're taking them from a similar time period) produce dated manuscripts containing early drafts with many similar plot points. Fraud is declared.

    Meanwhile, a jumble of literary influences and movements are found in the books. This influences texts being written, and causes complete chaos as far as language and culture go.

    All stock predictions fail; public's tastes change.

    Don't fuck with literature, man. Support writers and perhaps invest in guys that are going to get big, but simply bringing books back to publish will end badly. Especially if they find the original copies. Then again, I'm sure no one gives a shit.
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    modern man is covered, soaked, Dripping with the hard-core descendants of endless death and treatment. We are walking superbug factories.

    Might not be as bad as a biblical plague, but The American Flu will earn itself a little note in history that year.

    Make sure that Tesla gets the medical care he needs, won't you?
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    <captcha derper undermined
    Damn, I'm saving that one.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)22:13 No.12742326
    >Jumbled works are found annoying.

    This is patently untrue after the turn of the 20th century. Naked Lunch is little more than a collection of "isn't this gross" stories strung together by a vague notion of not putting on airs before your companions. Hunter S. Thompson's works are all little more than what he scribbled onto a notebook while cowering behind a barrel at crazy parties. Kerouac basically published his journal. Baron Munchhausen blatantly wrote lies.

    You might be able to start an avant-guard movement in literature about 40 years early with those works. Or, they'd be written completely out of cultural context, and nobody would care.

    Who knows? Literature's way too subjective to predict.

    Anyway, you'll note that I made a post about how the stocks wouldn't work.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)22:15 No.12742347

    I give Tesla the idea of creating a device that cancels the mass of an object.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)22:20 No.12742393
    Really, about Naked Lunch?
    Ok, really hate to pull this out of my ass but...

    "The end result of complete cellular representation is cancer. Democracy is cancerous, and bureaus are its cancer. A bureau takes root anywhere in the state, turns malignant like the Narcotics Bureau,and grows and grows, always reproducing more of its own kind,until it chokes the host if not controlled or excised. Bureaus cannot live without a host, being true parasitic organisms. (A cooperative on the other hand can live without the state. That is the road to follow. The building up of independent units to meet needs of the people who participate in the functioning of the unit. A bureau operates on opposite principle of inventing needs to justify its existence.) Bureaucracy is wrong as a cancer, a turning away from the human evolutionary direction of infinite potentials and differentiation and independent spontaneous action to the complete parasitism of a virus . . . Bureaus die when the structure of the state collapses. They are as helpless and unfit for independent existences as a displaced tapeworm, or a virus that has killed the host."

    It really is an underlying theme in the book, that and addiction/hopelessness, and the aforementioned as a tool of psychological/societal control.

    There really is a lot more to that book than you think.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)22:27 No.12742451
    Honestly, I only read the first half of the book, because I got bored with him trying so hard to stress that you should know the word peristalsis and you should really remember about Atahs. I'm sure there was a point to it, but you can't deny that he went out of his way to make his novel a gross-out. I wasn't even offended, so much as annoyed.

    That, and the girlfriend of the chick whose copy I was ready threatened to kill me, so I kind of had to give it back in a hurry.

    You know how that goes.

    Anyway, I can see how psychological conditioning could be a theme (from what I remember of having read half the book 5 years ago...), but it's definitely less obvious than, say, Thompson's point about the decline and/or death of the American Dream.

    My point was that it's a rather jumbled work. It's definitely not a straightforward treatise on the ills of societal programming. Many such jumbles are considered extremely poignant...but most of that stems from them being published at a time where the mindset was there to read them, and the public sentiment was shifting in that direction already.

    Without the cultural context, that novel will touch no one.

    >tenements, chashi
    Yes, Chashi. You must remember that the words of the Prophets are written on the subway walls, and tenement halls.
    >> Anonymous 11/09/10(Tue)22:30 No.12742482

    well yeah, that book, taken out of context... makes absolutely no fucking sense. Like people in the Era of tesla have a concept of say, what addiction really is, let alone what Democracy has become in the 20th century.

    I mean, notice I didnt jump on your shit for criticizing Kerouac or Thompson (although I like Thompson, but not Kerouac)... but the books you chose are all pretty heavily rooted in the time and place in which they were written, which any book would be, which is precisely Sneak Thiefs point.

    My point is solely, that Naked Lunch has more to it than you give it credit for, although I agree there is plenty of gross out material there.
    >> Cerebrate Anon 11/09/10(Tue)22:38 No.12742556
    Like I said, I only got halfway through (in High School, no less) before srsbzns demanded that I return the book. From the point I left off, it was significantly less coherent and notably less meaningful than either of the other two. This is probably more of a commentary on why you shouldn't borrow books from ex-girlfriends than anything else.

    Anyway, we agree that none of these novels, handed to Tesla or anyone of his time, would make any fucking sense. Sure, you could take some novels back in time and have moderate success (the Time Machine, for example, could thrive in a few time periods, translation-willing, since it pioneered the concept of a "time machine" by itself. It almost creates its own context), but it's unlikely that anything more than 10 years before its time would be a success at all.

    I suppose we're just arguing the finer points of SneakThief's argument, anyway. I'm somewhat drunk. This may explain a lot.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/10(Wed)00:23 No.12743489
    My guns and ammo
    -Ruger 10/22 w/M1 Carbine kit
    -Remington 870
    -BM59 semi-auto rifle
    -Glock 30
    My laptop with my solar charger, which includes a /k/ torrent on LOTS of good shit like how to make a submachine gun in your home and medicine.
    Some SHTF stuff like MREs, my improvised AC, solar cells.

    oh, this

    huh? there's still communist countries, and many communist parties still hold noteworthy influence in ex-communist countries

    Tell that to Leo Strauss and all of his neoconservative descendants.

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