LAST TIME ON ZEONQUEST!

After successfully managing to crack the defenses of Federal HQ in Jaburo, you're forced to pull out at the last minute. Your primary resource site, vital to the war: Odessa, is under attack by Revil himself in the largest Federation offensive of the war.
You and everybody else scramble whatever you can to get there and hold the area.

After rendezvouing with transports carrying fresh Mobile Suits in the sands of Morroco (sp?) you continued at full speed towards Odessa. It's getting dark by the time you arrive... perfect for a night raid.

You successfully breach the Federation air cover and mount a brutal air-assault on a Federation Artillery Battalion, and as it's escorts rush back to avenge their fallen units you run for the cover of a nearby village.

But then:

>Whilst the rest take up positions, you check behind a village church.

>You barely manage to leap aside before the crimson beam shot fills the air. You fire a burst through church at where the enemy was, but there's a flash of white and the Gundam evades.

>"Sir! We've got Dom remains here! It looks like Black Tri-Sta..."

>"HE'S STILL HERE YOU IDIOTS! GET TO MY POSITION NOW! IT'S THE WHITE DEVIL!"

YOUR ORDERS?

Fuck yeah, away we go!
>Suffice to say, you EARNED that Zeon Cross.
Hopefully we dont get the OTHER kind of Zeon cross today.

My take on things is that the Gundam is too fast and it's ranged weapons too dangerous for us to be able to simply retreat back to our lines. Our only hope is to either cripple it badly enough to force it away or kill it outright. We've gotta pull every trick in the book if we plan to get out of this one alive. Although we still dont know the pilot is a 15 year old kid, taunting him would still be a good idea.

Calvin and Hovis should continue playing rear guard, keeping the GM's busy as long as possible. Maybe try to bounce a laser com off the Outer Heaven and call in artillery fire on the GMs. Zol should be ready to come in towards us fast and do a heat hawk attack. It doesnt matter if it's normal heat hawks or the ship buster, he's just got to throw SOMETHING. I dont think Zol ever used one of his hawk attacks the other times we fought the Gundam, (though he did get up in his face the one time.)

David should try to keep its attention while Elaine and Jolyne try to either flank or bracket him with beam fire. Bernie is to stay back and look for an opening to use some grenades, maybe we can scew up the Gundam's optics. When it's at last disarmed Elaine or Jolyne should get in close with their beam naginatas. Or just do that right from the get go if we can draw his attention enough.

>>11553818

FYI, artillery support from the Outer Heaven is possibly a no go, since it's currently dancing with Core-Boosters.

>>11553925

more like dancing with the angels mister!

>>11553925
I think he wanted to see if we could use them as a relay. Unless we have some other way of contacting whichever Hidolfr lance is closest.

>>11553958
This. It's why I said 'bounce a laser com off the Outer Heaven.'

>>11553958
The EWACs array probably doesn't work if you're FLEEING FOR YOUR LIFE.

Apolo, can we have a map or something like this? This is kind of a tight spot.

>>11553958
>>11553994
>>11554000

Okay, right.
You haven't really integrated yourself with the command structure yet, this was supposed to be a quick in quick out sort of raid.

I'll work on a map.
For those interested, the Black Tristars? Were in Rick-Dom MkII's.

>>11554070
>Rick-doms
On Earth? They must have been RUSHED.

Still, this is a major blow to the effort. Mourning comes after we escape.

>>11554070
>the Black Tristars? Were in Rick-Dom MkII's.

Well they're United Maintenance Plan so I suppose they would have been easy to refit for ground use right?

>>11553810
But...but...

Now we can't be bros with the Tristars! No epic All Zeon Ace Final Attack

>>11554117
Considering the original Rick Dom was just a Dom with rockets instead of hoverjets, I'd say so. SRW @ had them running around in Dom IIs, which was basically just that.

Anyway, some support would be nice. Until we get some, limit override and play the dodge and shoot game.

>>11554117

Considering that they were used in gravity during 0080, I'd say so.

Here's map. Quality on the buildings isn't great, but Lenins'ke is sort of a stretched out town, so it's hard to get everything in.

>>11554180

I'll second this.

>>11554180
You wanna go with >>11553818's idea? Keep Hovis and Calvin delaying the reinforcements, whilst Zolomon dashes back to help you. You keep the Gundams attention and Jolyne and Elaine flank.
Bernard does whatever seems classiest.

>>11554181
Alright, who has a bazooka in the village party?We need a distraction so we can pull back and re...

Oh. The village is the only cover.

Oh snap.

>>11554181
Hm. I guess we could have Jo perform suppressing fire while Dave, Elaine, and Bernie do their best to catch him in a killzone, though Dave'll probably have to keep his attention. If we can get Bernie to smack him with his chain mine that'd be beautiful.

Get OH to para-drop our infantry squads.

We're in urban combat, with absolutely no support. We need those guys on the group. Give overall infantry command to the surviving commando squad.

(Amusingly I was playing Bernie and his FZ at my local arcade. [Gundam VS Next]. Suffice to say much hamburger was made.)

>>11554310
Combine >>11553818 and >>11554329
Jo and Dave keep the Gundam's attention while Elain and Bernie try to get into position to flank.
Then, while the Gundam has to split it's attention between 4 units spread around it, Zol comes in out of nowhere with a heathawk attack.
If they can, Hov and Cal should try to get OH to do a combat drop of our infantry support so that we get more anti-MS weaponry here.

What do you guys think?

>>11554444
Should work. If Bernie can get in position, he could use the chainmine fairly well and end the Gandamu

>>11554444

See>>11553925. The Outer Heaven is currently in a furball with Core Boosters, Interceptor types from the sound of the last thread. If we can't even use its comms then we can't really count on it for anything at the moment.

>>11554539
Which is why I noted >If they can
Getting from infantry is not essential to the plan, and can be worked around.

>>11554329
>>11554322

You fire another burst of beams at him from your Beam Carbine, you're going to need to reload in another 2 bursts, and you don't think he's going to give you the time to that.
Your fire forces him to dive out of the way and you take the oppourtunity to get behind the church he was using for cover previously and decide to reload now.

"Elaine, Jolyne, try to flank him from the north and the south, I'll keep his attention."

To punctuate that sentence you toss a Cracker Grenade behind you to keep him on his toes.

"Zolomon, you think you can let Hovis and Calvin take up the slack and get over here?"

You break cover in time with the Gundam, both of your beam shots go wide and you both dive behind some more buildings.

"I dunno boss, they're doing okay for their first time in PeeDees, but I don't think they're ready for that."

"Do what you can then, keep them off our backs whilst we try to either put this guy down, or get him to retreat."

You prime another Cracker and toss it in the Gundam's general direction. You then flank around the buildings it was using for cover, and come face to face with it as it scrambles away from the Grenade. It's leaps like a scalded cat through the adjacent warehouse to avoid your burst of fire.
Whereupon it leaps into the sky to avoid the beam shots of Elaine and Jolyne as they flank him from both sides. He lands back behind the church.

Suddenly, you see Bernard's Zaku Kai leap up from it's hiding spot. It tosses a flash grenade, and the bright flare sillouettes the building. Bernard grasps his chain mine and using his thrusters spins in the air, the long line of explosives trail as he swings them around, intended to entangle the Gundam, but at the last moment it lurches to the side, and rolls on top of the church.
Which instead of the Gundam, the Chain-Mines wrap around instead.
There is a massive succession of explosions...

Huh, wow. Wasnt aware we had a chain mine. Oh well, it was a good try. Maybe the Gundam fell into the church after it blew up?

The church explodes completely, the blast hurls the gundam (which still appears intact) upwards into the air, it's shield goes flying and embeds itelf into a disused warehouse.
You're amazed to see that the pilot still has the presence of mind to re-orient himeself mid-air and land somewhat on his feet. Nevertheless, it's an awkward landing ontop of a couple of buildings and dust and debris bloom outwards, obscuring the Gundam.

You prime a Stick-Bomb, and dash forwards intending to finish this, you see Bernards Zaku Kai running in as well.
Out of the blue, there is a lance of ruby light from the cloud, Bernard doesn't have time to dodge, and the beam severs both of his feet at the knees. His Mobile Suit hits the ground heavily and rolls over several times.
You toss the grenade, only to see the Gundam bat it out of the way with his free hand, blasts from Jolyne and Elaine's rifles crazing around where you can now see him to be.
You lower your shoulder, push your thruster output to max and brutally close the distance with a powerful shoulder-ram before he has a chance to fire at you.
You collide with an almight clash, and the two of you fly through the air, locked together, your opposing verniers fighting each other to stay upright. You both land badly and are tossed about head over heels. He finishes upright and as you grasp for your fallen Beam Carbine he takes aim and fires near point blank...

>>11554610
Empty the carbine into the rubble, and then retreat so we can flank the feddies that the others are holding off?

That might make the Gundam angry though...

>>11554610
Flashbang/'nades in the church. Use the 'plosions silhouette to get a lucky beam shot off on the Gundam's juicy torso. Zol rushes after the Gundam's distracted from LOLRAPE and does the killing blow if it isn't down after that.

It sounds like an awesome plan on an alcohol induced binge.

>>11554610

Damn, close. Have Jol and us pour fire into the ruins to try and keep the Gundam suppressed. Meanwhile, Haze Zolomon try and move in position to engage up close and personal. Otherwise, no meeting it in melee. Have Bernie continue to use his flashbangs and other grenades to keep the Gundam off balance. Preferably, do the MW2 trick of throwing a flash grenade and following it up with a cracker or a panzerfaust.

>>11554713
>>11554713
>>11554713

FUCKING BARREL ROLL NOW! GET OUT OF THERE LISTER!

Whatever happens, make sure we recover that fallen shield before we bug out.

>>11554763
>>11554763
>>11554763

DO A MOTHERFUCKING BARREL ROLL DAMN IT, ITS LIFE OR DEATH.

>captca: flawless of

I hope it means we flawlessly roll out of the way and not flawlessly get beamed to the cockpit and die.

Please be out of ammo from fighting the Tri-stars, PLEASE BE OUT OF AMMO!
Save our lives from beyond the grave guys!

>>11554713
BARREL ROLL AND HEADBUTT!
With our last breath we spit at thee!

>>11554713
... and nothing happens. His rifle is out of ammo, as you knew since you'd been counting his shots, and making sure he didn't have time to reload.
You're carbine in hand you raise and prepare to pull the trigger.

"Look out sir! Above you!" Bernard cries out, and both you and the Gundam look up in time to see an HLV descending at full speed directly towards the both of you.
You have mere moments to react and you both push your thrusters hards as you dive out of the way. The explosions of the falling space vehicle carries you further.

"Oh wow. It's been a while since I did this..." you casually think as your blown clear out of the village.
You manage to land without hurting yourself or your suit, and get a sit-rep.

"Wiseman here, I'm okay! My suit's lost it's legs but some buildings managed to shield me from the worst of the blast."

"Elaine here, A-Ok"

"Jolyne here, I took some damage, my Beam Rifle needs repair, but otherwise functional."

"Zolomon here, were all fine, but we've been pushed back to the village and we haven't killed nearly as many as usual. These guys are good!"

You see the smoke clear and in atop a large piece of destroyed HLV, lands a salmon pink Gelgoog.

"This is Commander Char Aznable, I can handle the Gundam if you can keep those reinforcements of my back!"

YOUR ORDERS?

ALSO, BRB DINNER.

TIME FOR NEWTYPE FLASH

>>11554813

TAKING BETS ON WHEN CHAR BETRAYS US. TAKING BETS. BETS HERE.

>>11554813
CCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU SUNUVABITCH!!! WE HAD THAT SHOT!!!!

If they shield wasn't lost in the blasts(it should still be intact being made or LT and all) we need to grab it for re purposing later, like our LT boxer shield.

>>11554813
> 'dropping' HLV

... oh me and my big mouth.

Gut instinct is to let char go it alone. Bad things happen to his wingman. However if we go we have a good chance to killing it. Dammnn....

>>11554813
"Char!? Thank God. I hope you'll be alright because I dont have any disposable wingmen to loan you."

>>11554813

FUCK YEAH. We should be good enough to fight with Char, but have the girls go to back up Zolomon.

>CHAR IS HERE
Hooray! We're saved!

>CHAR IS HERE
Hooray! We're all about to blame it on the misfortune of our birth!

Hey thats an idea.

"Hey char, when this battle is over, lets get a beer. Some interesting gossip like who and what killed Daikun from side 3 that just needs to be told."

Nah, we should be fine, as long as Garma stays clear of this shit and we form a wide circle around Char.

A wide one. Gotta keep everything out of his hair.

>>11554813
Send Elaine to back up Zol, Cal, and Hov.
Jo will pick up Bernie and his suit and get out of here.
We go and pick up the Gundam's shield, preventing him from using it, and watch the fight between Char and the Gundam.

If we see a shot, take it.

Whatever happens make sure we steal the shield

>>11554985
>>11555000
>>11554861
These. Grab that shield, we need a replacement.

Steal Shield, help Char a bit. And we need to tell him, really. It might be our best chance to save the decent Zabis (i.e. everyone except Girhen) and get some forces onto our side in the civil war.

>Brophy Gelidiopsis

So we need to bro it up with Char and get a brophy.

>>11555128
>And we need to tell him

I don't think now is really the best time

>>11554813
You know, I'm sure his heart was in the right place, but god damnit Char! We were about to kill him!

Oh well, let him handle the Gundam I suppose. Make sure Bernie's alright and then get to the battle to stop the reinforcements.

Lastly, how goes the Gundam version of Epic Armageddon Apologized?

>>11555189

obviously not now, but soon.

"Hey Char, after this is all over, we've got some stuff to talk about." (Mainly the teacup, but also totally stopping us from getting the Gundam)

"So Char," RATATATATATATATA click, "You hear about Zeon? The original Zeon, I mean. Gihren poisoned him."

"WHAT!?"

When it rains Gundams, clearly our goal is to make Gundam-aid. Thanks, Gundam. We needed that new shield.

(Listerhivemind says that shield is our shield now, thank you.)

Let Char handle that Gundam for a while. We need to see what we can do about shredding those escorts while he does, and we've got Natchmaren suits that are mobility killed in a hot zone. Rule number 1: Keep yourselves alive.

>>11553925
>Outer Heaven is possibly a no go, since it's currently dancing with Core-Boosters

Wouldn't core boosters fucking wreck any ship considering they're armed with beams cannons.

>>11555313
Yes. Which is why our ship has beam chaff.

Who else thought there was a chance Char might shown up in a red/pink Kampher? Especially with the Gelgoog production shortage.

>>11555313

Same as modern jets being missile armed really, yet not being able to destroy surface ships with impunity. The OH has it's own beam guns and anti-fighter weapons and is quite mobile to boot. Not to mention that with Minovsky particles around the Core-Boosters can't use radar or other assisted targeting.

>>11555377

Was hoping for a pink gyan personally, these things don't get enough appreciation.

>>11555377
Was thinking he would use a Commander-type Gyan myself.

We really don't want to be talking politics with Char right now. He's going after the Gundam. Man needs to have his head in game, not getting freaked out about politics.

FIRST, save Odessa and break the feds. Then we can start worrying about inter-zeonic politics.

I must ask.

Have we confirmed the Black TriStars as cockpit and/or TOTAL MS EXPLOSION kills? We should take a moment if it can be spared to check if even a single member survived.

We'd do it for any of our squaddies, right?

>the expertise

>>11555444
We might be able to do it once we get that shield. Since Jol's weapon took a hit, if we find survivors we could have Jol take them with Bernie to an area away from the immediate battle, or make their way to friendly lines. Probably see if any of the Tristar's weapons are salvageable for Jol to use, too.

>>11555377
I never remember beam chaff.

>>11555213
>>11554985
>>11554879

You pick up the shield dropped by the Gundam and prepare to defend against the oncoming enemy units whilst Char strides off to the north to hunt the gundam.

>>11555313
>Wouldn't core boosters fucking wreck any ship considering they're armed with beams cannons.

Any ship without anti-beam chaff yes.

>>11555377
>Who else thought there was a chance Char might shown up in a red/pink Kampher? Especially with the Gelgoog production shortage.

I think the Gelgoog shortage is EXACTLY why he's picked it as a mobile suit.

Anyway, Char is soon obscured by the failing light and falling dust from his overly explosive entrance. You turn to rejoin the rest of your unit.
You find Elaine dragging Bernies legless Zaku behind some cover and meet up with Zolomon and the rest, who have since rejoined the unit.

"What's your status?"

"We're beginning to get low on ammo. Plus our chest mounted beam cannons are starting to overheat. Hovis and Calvin took a couple of dings, but nothing serious."

"Calvin, any word on the Outer Heaven?"

"I've just got contact sir, they sey they've managed to shake their attackers and are coming for us now."

"Tell them were going to need some close support against incoming mixed units."

"Roger."

You step forward to take a look at the incoming enemy.
It appears to be 5 GM's of mixed variants. You spot a pair [G] types, and three more GM's of unidentified variants. One type appears to have reinforced upper armour, and carries what is probably the Rail-Gun mentioned earlier. There are two of these. The unit commander is probably the in the GM with reinforced armour, improved verniers and what appears be some kind of two pronged Beam Spear.
At least 10 tanks mill around them, and the Mobile Suits are advancing cautiously towards you. That's why they haven't managed to catch up to you yet.

YOUR ORDERS?

>The unit commander is probably the in the GM with reinforced armour, improved verniers and what appears be some kind of two pronged Beam Spear.

ohshit!

>>11555575
Call in artillery support from one of the Hildoflr batteries at Odessa. Now that the OH is free, Calvin should be able to bounce a signal from them or whatever to get help, right?

>>11555575
Fall back to the crashed HLV and the town. Salvage whatever ammo and weapons we can from the Tri-Stars' suits, and check to see if the pilots made it.
With Bernie's legs gone, we won't be able to make a run for it, so we'll have to stand and fight until the OH can get in range and give us support. Tell them to get the infantry squads ready for a combat drop behind the advanced Fed units.

Once the GM striker is mass produced...

>>11555575
If Elaine is going to keep helping Bernie have her trade beam weapons with Jolyne. Her and David engage the GM's at range and have the Dowdage's add in fire with their ammo based weapons, try to get their beam guns cooled down.

>>11555594

What's so bad abnout these guys?

>>11555604
>Call in artillery support from one of the Hildoflr batteries at Odessa. Now that the OH is free, Calvin should be able to bounce a signal from them or whatever to get help, right?

You ask Anita for some artillery support, and she say's she'll do her best to get through to Odessa command and order one, but it might take a few minutes or more.

>>11555611
>Fall back to the crashed HLV and the town. Salvage whatever ammo and weapons we can from the Tri-Stars' suits, and check to see if the pilots made it.
With Bernie's legs gone, we won't be able to make a run for it, so we'll have to stand and fight until the OH can get in range and give us support. Tell them to get the infantry squads ready for a combat drop behind the advanced Fed units.

You order everyone to fall back to west to a more defendable section of buildings. You salvage what you can from the Black Tristars.
The results aren't good, one functioning 330, fully loaded, 3 Panzerfausts and a 120mm MG with Grenade Launcher (GL is empty, 120mm has about 80 rounds left.)
All of them appear to have taken either critical reactor hits or direct hits to the cockpit. You don't believe there are any survivors. It looks like he managed to take them out in the middle of a team assault maneouver, their own specialty.

"That Gundam is just a monster." you remark to yourself.

>>11555627
>If Elaine is going to keep helping Bernie have her trade beam weapons with Jolyne. Her and David engage the GM's at range and have the Dowdage's add in fire with their ammo based weapons, try to get their beam guns cooled down.

Elaine was just moving Bernie out of the way, she isnt his nursemaid or anything.

ANY FURTHER ORDERS?

>>11555637
Nothing really. I'm more of a fan of the Desert Combat GM and the Land Combat GM's myself.

>>11555743

Yeah. AVENGE THE TRI-STARS.

>>11555743

THIS PICTURE WILL NEVER BE APOLOGIZED

WAY TO WRECK MY HOPES AND DREAMS D:

>>11555743
Use that Gundam shield to best effect. It's armor plating can stand up to almost whatever can be thrown at us, right?
I'm of a mind to have Lister use the shield and the panzerfausts to take out the enemy command suit, and use concentrated fire to destroy the enemy one by one.

Captcha: joined-up planner

>>11555810
Sounds like a plan.

>>11555785

You're pretty stupid...

>>11555743
>"That Gundam is just a monster."
Sometimes it takes a Nightmare to fight a Devil...

>>11555743
Group assault, huh? We do know that this Gundam tends to have friends, and we haven't seen anything of the Guncannon or Guntank. Maybe Calvin ought to keep an eye out for them.

>>11555804

WHAT IF YOU PAINTED A SKELETON ON IT.
NOW IT BECOMES ENTIRELY POSSIBLE.

Also, what do you want to do with the salvaged equipment?

>>11555884
Give Jolyne the salvages 120 mm and bazooka, distribute the panzerfausts to whoever is short on them.

>>11555884
Well Jolyne could stow her busted rifle and use them.

>>11555884
Give Jo the bazooka, keep the 'fausts, and give Bernie the machinegun if he thinks he can fire from cover. He's got more then enough ammo to spare for it. If not, just take what he's got left over and give it to whoever needs it.

Hey, didn't Calvin have an experimental EWAC package that we wanted to test on this op?
How's that performing?

We need to do some sort of epic speech to make them wet themselves before kicking their asses. "Hello. I am David Lister. I have lost some close friends of mine. I'm going to take it out on you."

Woo almost missed this...

>>11555898

You hand out the salvaged equipment, giving Jolyne the 330 Bazooka.
You take up positions as the enemy begin to enter the town, now heavily damaged from your battle with the Gundam.
You all open fire at the enemy. They dash for cover as your shots illuminate the town. You see one of your shots sever a GM's leg before the Tanks begin launching smoke. You duck down as supressing return fire fills the air. You prime a cracker and toss it over you hear it detonate, but you can't be sure how many are killed.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>11556147
As always, try to flank them. We have a small bazooka too bont we? Use that as well.

>>11556147
If your first response to this picture wasn't yelling GAAAATOOOOOOOOO at your monitor.... YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT GUNDAM

>YOUR ORDERS?
change positions within cover so you don't get hit by a GM rail gun or if any of the ground GM's are toting a 180mm cannon

>>11556147

"Hello. My name is David Lister. You killed my friends. Prepare to die."

>corrects because

>>11556147
Have the rest of our unit keep up the fire. Just enough to keep their attention.
Zol and Lister will fan out in opposite directions and attempt to circle around behind the enemy force. Once we join up, we'll hit them in from the rear. Lister is to concentrate on finding the enemy commander and shoving a couple panzerfausts up his ass. Use the Gundam shield to maximum effect.

And how's the new EWACS suite working out?

>>11556205

Well no, that was the Gundam.

>>11556191
No, my first reaction wasn't to yell GATOOOOOOOOO.

My first reaction was: OH SNAP, GP-02.

>>11556209
>Use the Gundam shield to maximum effect.
That means you have to do a lot of rolls and throw it at tanks and bash heads in with it, probably loosing it in the process because white base has huge crates of them.

>>11556191
My first reaction was this track popping into my head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Le6azerwU

>>11556328
This reminds me. As an ace pilot, we should have a soundtrack.

I vote for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqyL3KwKPf0 because it's awesome and since this isn't the A.C. universe, it isn't taken.

>>11556388
What's the point of a theme song if it doesn't have a latin chorus?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQnPxj3hdU

>>11556445
Ooh. Turn A. You, sir, have class.

>>slimiest thought
Captcha doesn't seem to like it, though.

>>11556445

Eh, I think something upbeat like >>11556388
is more Lister's style. But that's just me.

So, are we going to run these Federation dogs down, or are we going to argue back and forth as to our theme music?

>>11556521
I'm waiting on Apologized, so I dunno about you.

>>11556209
>Zol and Lister will fan out in opposite directions and attempt to circle around behind the enemy force. Once we join up, we'll hit them in from the rear. Lister is to concentrate on finding the enemy commander and shoving a couple panzerfausts up his ass. Use the Gundam shield to maximum effect.

You order the rest of the team to keep up the pressure on the enemy whilst you and Zolomon flank around.

"I've got word from the Outer Heaven commander, they're dropping the Mobile Infantry now and then will be looping around for an attack run, ETA 90 seconds."

"That's plenty of time, we get in, we tag the leader, we get out." Zolomon comments.

Your already moving by the time you reply.
"Yeah, because our military careers have a history of things happening the way they're supposed to."
You hear explosions and the distinctive high pitched sound of beam weapon discharges behind you as you dash, partially hunched down to avoid detection around ruined buildings as you arc around to the enemy position.

>>11556605
45 seconds in, and the smoke is beginning to clear, you spot the enemy formation. The tanks have spread out and are probably acting as spotters and artillery support whilst the Mobile Suits pour it on. You spot Zolomon clear the building and the both of your dash towards the centre mass of the enemy unit.
One of the Tanks must have seen you, as the GM's turn to face you, you bring up the Gundam Shield and fire a burst from your Carbine. Using the view-slit in the shield (handy that) you see your shots take out a tank and slice clean through the cockpit of a [G] type.
Explosions rock the area as Zolomon opens fire with his 330, before drawing a pair of Heat Hawks, tanks are thrown upwards and the remaining GM's and tanks begin to face him also.
One GM steps up to fire it's beam pistol at Zolomon, only for Elaine to take his head of with her Beam Rifle, the mobile suit falls to the floor, smoking.

You dash forwards, still using the shield, firing another burst from your Carbine. Shot's impact on your shield, but it holds and you draw your heat hawk and advance on the commander.

65 seconds.

>>11556619
His Beam Spear comes out and ignites the twin beam sabers on the end. He thrusts forwards with it and you parry the strike with your shield, knocking his arm outwards.
A heat hawk flies in and neatly severs the arm just below the shoulder, you have to duck to avoid it.

"Watch it Zolomon!"
"Sorry!"

Unbalanced the enemy staggers to the side and you press your advantage and swing horizontally with your Axe at his mid-section, but the strike is clumsy and only partially penetrates, leaving the weapon lodged inside.
You leap upwards and kick the back of the blade, forcing it clean through and into the air towards your positions.

"Ah!" You hear Elaine cry.
"That landed on my head!"

But by this point your already leaping over the ruined buildings the enemy was using for cover as the enemy leader explodes behind you, trusting your team not to shoot you by mistake.

You pick up enemy tanks trying to track, and then being taken completely by suprise as flanking Wappa Dragoons hit them in their side armour with co-ordinated AT missile strikes.

You and Zolomon just manage to get into cover for when the Outer Heaven unloads it's entire AG Rocket Pod compliment into the enemy.

Now we're talking. How many GM's are left?


Also I'm starting to wonder if our wappa's are modified to carry an AT rocket on place of the MG, especially with the speed they were able to deploy and fire.

Sorry for the late posts, I kept trying to post stuff too long.
I'd really like some kind of tool that tells me when I'm over that limit.

You poke your head out looking for survivors. Seeing none, you open a channel to the Outer Heaven.

"Good of you to join us at last!"

"Sorry Commander, next time we take escort fighters huh?"

"That's one thing you have to say about Gaw's, they come with their own escorts."

The situation appears stable for now, no immiediate signs of the enemy.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>11556745
You'd have to get creative with the mounting so the backblast doesn't end up flying right into the pilot's face. They might be able to mount a LAW or recoilless rifle, but it would cut their combat effectiveness way down once they fired it off, and there's no telling how badly the drastic weight shift and reduction of firing one would affect it.

>>11556786
Have the OH and the infantry pick up the remains of the Tri-Stars, and get Bernie into another MS.
Have everyone resupply, and check the status of the Gundam shield.
Try to to this as quickly as we can, and go towards where Char and the Gundam are fighting.

>>11556786
Get Bernie and Jo's rifle loaded up and repair them if we can. Have Anita pull up another strategic map, and ask her if she can get a fix on Char and the Gundam, or maybe the nearest Pegasus carrier or Big Tray battlegroup.

>>11556786
Where the hell is Char and the Gundam? If those two pop out of nowhere while the OH is waiting for our pickup things could get bad fast.

>this minions
We are not Char's minions, stop that captcha.

>>11556786
Get an update form Char over radio if possible and see if he needs assistance. Otherwise, we get back to stopping the Feddies from taking Odessa by taking out their big units/arty/supplies from behind.

>>11556786
>The situation appears stable for now, no immediate signs of the enemy.
Well, I guess our work here is done. As I really don't think we want to get between Char and the Gundam right now, we should probably move on to the next hotspot. There's gotta be someone that could use our expertise killing pegasi or land battleships or wiping out a few formations of enemy mobile suits. It's not like the battle is over yet or anything.

>get Bernie into another MS
SOMEONE GET THIS SOLDIER SOME NEW LEGS, STAT!

Rendezvous with command, get a hold as to what the hell is going on here.

Or better yet, if out Act Zaku is OK, We personally go and back Char up, letting the others go and get to safety.

>>11556871
>>11556824

You have the Outer Heaven land and you begin to load the remains of the Black Tristars aboard along with Bernie. You raise Char on the comms network.

"The situation here seems clear, do you need asisstance?"

"No, I'm quite alright Commander. The Gundam retreated under covering fire from the Guncannons, although you did a fine job softening him up first, you have my deepest respect. It seems we've both come a long way since the Grand Canyon."

"Do you need a ride back to HQ?"

"That's very kind of you, I would seem to be in need of transport if you have the space."

About 5 minutes later Char returns, despite fighting the Gundam, his suit appears to be in near pristine condition.
"How did you manage to go toe-to-toe with the Gundam without a scratch?" Zolomon asks.

"You've got to keep in mind that whilst the pilot spatial awareness due to being a newtype has gone from strength to strength over the course of this war, his piloting skills remain average at best. Pushing him to perform complicated maneouvers and there's a momentary hesitation, perform complicated manouvers yourself, and he wont follow, preferring to rely on basic piloting actions. It smacks of someone whose had to receive very rushed training, probably whilst on the Trojan Horse and in between missions."

"Huh."

YOUR ORDERS?

>>11557150
Retreat to Odessa and report in. See where they need to send us. See how much longer we'll have to wait until the Rhino arrives.

>>11557150

>The Gundam retreated under covering fire from the Guncannons

>Guncannons

Oh god, it has more than one of them now?

Ask Char someplace where we can talk. It doesn't have to be about the teacup, but we can if we want to. Either way, discuss tactics and maneuvers, along with some planning of the Odessa defense.

>>11557150
We should remember this advice for later.

>>11557225

THIS.

>>11557225
"Once this is all over I cant wait to get back into space and finish thing there. By the way did you hear about Girhen Zabi? We found evidence he killed off Zeon Zum Deikun."

OK, if we do bring up the Teacup, we phrase it like this: "Char, I'm sure by now you've heard of the infighting in space. I don't know how much you know, but let me tell the whole story. See, We have direct evidence that Ghiren attempted to poison Degwin and seize control. Furthermore, we've recovered evidence specifically proving that Ghiren poisoned Zeon Zum Deikun as well." Then explain the current factional situation.

>>11557150
This->>11557217

A clearer picture of the operational situation would help us right now.

>>11557225
>>11557217

After loading everything aboard, you take off towards Odessa HQ.
The journey takes about 20 minutes.
You set down at the HQ's airfield, it's hectic and chaotic, even at this time of night. You land and the Outer Heaven begins shuttling to the Hangars.

It takes about an hour to get a decent hangar space, and a supply chain running. At the end of which it's 11pm, and you finally get to meet the head of Odessa HQ.

M'Quve looks like he's seen better days, understandably, but his large office is the height of opulance. Priceless antiques decorate the room, ones famous enough that even you recognise them instantly.

"Well commander, I thank you for delivering Commander Char here, on time for once, and your actions on the front has prevented a possible enemy breakthrough. I'll expect more of the same tommorow, but for now Commander I suggest you get some rest, Jaburo this morning, and Odessa tonight, you've racked up a fair few frequent flyer miles today haven't we?"

"See! I told you!" Zolomon whispers to you.

You're dismissed shortly afterwards whilst Char continues to converse with M'Quve.
You have the nagging feeling you forgot to tell Char something important, but you can't recall what.
Oh well, you're sure you'll remember sooner or later.

There aren't any barracks or rooms available on the base, so you bunk up in the Outer Heaven.

The next morning, you wake up at 7 in the morning and get a sit-rep from Anita and Ookawara.

>>11557422

>You have the nagging feeling you forgot to tell Char something important, but you can't recall what.

>My face when I read this

>>11557422

>You have the nagging feeling you forgot to tell Char something important, but you can't recall what.

>My face when I read this

>>11557422

>You have the nagging feeling you forgot to tell Char something important, but you can't recall what.

>My face when I read this

I sure do love it when the quest maker doesn't listen to his readers

>>11557422

>You have the nagging feeling you forgot to tell Char something important, but you can't recall what.

>My face when I read this

>>11557447
>>11557480
>>11557493
>>11557504
It's ok, you guys arnt alone.

Next time, Char! Next tiiiiime~!

I dont get it. What did we forget to tell char?


That he is a massive faggot?

>>11557499
Cry sum moar, randomly wanting to bring up stuff about the teacup to Char while you're all so busy is waaaay OOC and metagamey.

>>11557422

The Combat SITREP from Anita:
"Things progressed badly during the night, whilst about 90% of the troops from Operation Joker made it here before the end of the day, many of them were too fatigued and suffering from battle damage to sustain combat for long. The available forces for night combat ran thin, and those who were available but tiredness took a toll on them as well.
The third defence line's coherency has badly degraded as a result, and there's been talk all morning about reconsolidating to the 4th defence line, but I think the situation will probably stabilise when the Operation Joker forces re-enter the field.

Ookawara's sit-rep:

"I got good news and bad news. The bad news is that repairing the Zaku Kai will take time we don't have, and whilst I can do it using the UMP parts we got from those Rick-Dom II wrecks, it'd take at least a day. Jolynes Beam Rifle's going to take at least until midday to fix, and the arms on the Pezun Dowdage are showing signs of stress fractures and extreme wear. That's going to take several more hours to fix, and even then it's a stopgap measure.
No for the good news. We've got Mobile Suits and UMP parts and weapons coming out of our ears, the Rhino arrived dead on time with no problems, everybody else's suits are up to 100% efficiency, and we've got some interesting new conversion packs for the Gelgoog from Pezun to try out. Plus we've also got top MS priority, so if we need to replace something, we can ask for pretty much anything."

THIS IS THE SITUATION.
YOUR ORDERS?

>>11557631
OOC and METAGAMING are awesome

Go eat balls

Actually, when you posted the cup of tea, what I thought you meant was "Get back to Odessa, and have a nice cup of tea."

The whole teacup thing never entered my mind.

>>11557644
Find a suit for Bernie until the Kai is fixed. Is it all 3 of the Pezun Dowdage that are having arm trouble or just Zol's?

>new conversion packs for the Gelgoog
More data on these and how long they'll take to fit.

Since Hovis will likely switch over to the rhino now Zol can take the Dowdage he'd been piloting. Find out if Calvin wants to stick with the Dowdage custom and what other weapon we could give Jolyne if we need to move out now.

>>11557644
>new conversion packs for the Gelgoog

Oh god please be Gelgoog Jaeger

>>11557724
If I had to guess, it's the B and C variants. It's still a bit too early for gamebreakers like Jaegers.

>>11557724
FUCK I FORGOT! Ask Ookawara if it would be possible to refit the Act Zaku with UMP verniers. The engine output of the Zaku Kai is far superior to most previous Zeon MS. Yes I know this would likely take a couple of days, we can do it later.

Also ask if there's been any progress in adapting beam chaff for other uses. (Like say, I dunno, anti-beam coating?)

Anyone else think we need to get one of these for zol sometime? Gyans are specialized for melee after all, and this is (I think) the gyan equivalent of a gelgoog jaeger. IE: rape.

>>11557644

Upgraded weaponry and ammo capabilities?

Yes.

>>11557724
>Find a suit for Bernie until the Kai is fixed. Is it all 3 of the Pezun Dowdage that are having arm trouble or just Zol's?

Just Zol's

>More data on these and how long they'll take to fit.

Options are:
Type-C Gelgoog Cannon option.
Retools the backpack to mount a Beam cannon, the design reminds you of the Guncannon you just salvaged. Coincidence?

Type-B High Mobility pack. Increased mobility and extra storage space for weapons, it would probably work just as well in gravity as in space, although you suspect it'd perform better upstairs.

Type-J Jaeger refit.
A Gelgoog design that essentially uses parts from the Unified Maintanence Plan to replace those we can't make without Gihren Loyalist factories, essentially creating a new model of Gelgoog.
Not something you could do quickly, but it's worth mentioning that if you lose a Gelgoogs arm, you can replace it with parts from the UMP.
The rest should take no more than a morning to do.

>>11557951


>Type-J Jaeger refit.
>A Gelgoog design that essentially uses parts from the Unified Maintanence Plan to replace those we can't make without Gihren Loyalist factories, essentially creating a new model of Gelgoog.
>Not something you could do quickly, but it's worth mentioning that if you lose a Gelgoogs arm, you can replace it with parts from the UMP.
The rest should take no more than a morning to do.

>>11557951
Who're pilotting our Gelgoogs right now? I'm thinking we leave the Jaeger until after Odessa is clear simply due to time constraints and instead go with one Cannon and one High Mobility for now.

Move Hovis back to the Rhino and see how Bernie feels about taking the spare Pezun for a spin?

Waaaait.

Is there a drop in performance with the Jaeger Geloog?

>>11557892

Beam Chaff sort of relies on it being Chaff. It's sort of hard to explain.
Mostly because it's never ever been properly explained in cannon.
It's also not 100% effective, beams get through, just scattered and weakened.

As for modifying the Act Zaku, that'd be a long process as you have to make sure you don't need to apply magnetic coating to anything, plus the Act is very carefully balanced, that's another reason why it's so agile.
Adding improved thrusters might work, it might overbalance it, you'd need to test it out.

>>11557943
Oh, and Gyans of various types are also available.

>>11557951

Do the Gelgoogs have magnetic joint coating? If they don't I think the Act Zaku is still by far the best for our personal use, though any clarification on this would be appreciated.

>>11558053
No. To the best of my knowledge, NO Gelgoog ever had magnetic coating.

>>11557951
>the design reminds you of the Guncannon you just salvaged. Coincidence?
Either they've been spying on us or our people knew about Fed attempts at the design long before the operation Joker. I vote we convert Jolyne's Gelgoog to this.

>Type-B High Mobility pack
I'm leaning towards this for Elaine's Gelgoog.

>Type-J Jaeger
Is this really the Jaeger or is it the ReGelg? Either way I say we hold off on it.

>>11558081

Righto, thanks. Now I know this one is gonna be unlikely, but can we ask Ookawara, if we ever get enough down time, to possible fit some Zaku Kai hover jets onto the Act Zaku? It's an amazing MS, but it's low-ish ground speed is sometimes a weakness.

>>11558094
That's the Re-Gelg from Double Zeta, Axis make that some MANY years from now.
Pretty good in Gundam Battle Universe.

>>11558121
I'll keep it in mind.

Okay, so who get's what, and do you want to take on any new Mobile Suits?

>>11558094
J-ReGelg. Jg-Jaeger. Gundam does this a lot.

Anyway I'll agree. As nice as a Jaeger or two would be, we can't really afford to bench a Gelgoog in the middle of Odessa. Once it's over we can field it and its delicious beam machine gun.

>>11556445

While belated, I feel this should be the theme for Lister:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtYz0CtJPcc&feature=related

I know this might sound a little odd, but how about we pilot a Gelgoog ourselves? I mean, getting a feel for the suit could help.

>>11558227

I love this song...

So what suits are we taking? And whos getting what?

>>11558165
Well if we wanted to put Zol in a Gyan variation that'd free up a Pezun Dowdage fro him to pilot. Otherwise see if we can borrow another Zaku Kai for Bernie.

David in the Act Zaku
Jol in Gelgoog Cannon
Elaine in Gelgoog B
Calvin in the Dowdage Custum (unless he wants different.)
Hovis in the Rhino

I thought we had 3 Gelgoogs

>>11558314
We gave one to Ramba Ral.

Oh the things that could have been.

Might make a good unit for Zol though if he's causing too much stress on normal mobile suits.

>>11558081
Wait a second. I know the federation accelerated their projects somewhat, but I thought getting the Gelgoog out this early means we almost auto-win/tie the OYW. Especially because we might hold Odessa.

Also we need to get Norris a Gyan, a mechanic, and a box of scraps and heat wire.

>seediness difference
captcha doesn't trust me.

>>11558282
And Bernie?

If you want him fighting today you need to get him a new suit. Just name a suit and I'll tell you if they have it.

>>11558408
A Gundam?

>>11558408

Probably a PeZun Dowdage

We have 3 of them right?

>>11558408
We've got a free Dowdage or:
>Otherwise see if we can borrow another Zaku Kai for Bernie

Ask the guys at Odessa is they have any additional Zaku Kai's that we could have Bernie pilot until ours is fully repaired.

>>11558414

You mean this?

Nope. Aint got one of those.

>>11558408
If Hovis is moving to the Rhino move him into the Pezun Dowadge?

>>11558407
You assume WAY too much, especially now that Zeon is divided

What did we forget to tell him?

>>11558515
That we're his brother.

>>11558407
Divded Zeon is bad, but it means less if we don't get sent into space. The point about Norris still stands. Remember, a Gelgoog J is technically a match for a gundam.

>>11558408
Can we get him a Shino? No, hear me out. He had plenty of training with the gigan artillery suit, he could probably pilot a Rhino or Hildolfr well.

>>11558519
Well our name IS David... though Bernie was the one with Snake's voice.

>>11558536
*Rhino

>>11558532
Your faction has very few Googlie's, and the 08th Team don't even compare to the White Devil

>>11558460

You do have a spare Pezun Dowdage available, and Odessa reports that they have a spare Zaku Kai they can get working relatively quickly for you.

Do keep in mind however that if you give Bernie the spare PeeDee, that you need to find a new suit for Zolomon.

>>11558546
Wait really?

>>11558408
Another FZ is probably our best option, though it'd be nice to add a Kaempfer to our stable if there's one available.

>>11558658
>>Bernard Wiseman is voiced by Kōji Tsujitani in Japanese and David Hayter in English.

>>11558658

Lets give bernie the Oddessa Zaku Kai then

>>11558658
That's why I suggested getting Zol a Gyan in >>11558282
What does everybody else think? I'm still voting Bernie in a Zaku Kai.

>>11558688
Fuck me, I did not know that.

And all this time, I've been hearing Davids voice in solid snakes distressingly easy to do voice.

>>11558663
Odessa has an huge store of UMP parts, which can be used to build the following.
Zaku Kai's
Rick-Dom MkII's
Gelgoog Jaegers (but this takes a while and uses certain parts they have limited amounts off. Plus it uses a LOT of the UMP parts too.)
Kampfers

The latter are actually pretty easy to build, it's mostly just a basic aerodynamic frame, ammo and rocket fuel.
On that note, don't get hit. You'll go up faster than a Leo.

They also have a limited supple of Gyans of all flavours you can get Gelgoogs, (so Gyan Cannons, Gyan High Mobility's and Gyan Kreigers) although Gyan Marines are currently the sole purview of the Mashiba Team at this point.
Aside from this all of the older suits are availabalbe (Zaku's Goufs, Dom's etc.) All Dom Tropens are currently earmarked or in the field, and there are a couple of Gigans available too.
The Hildolfrs are currently all in use or being repaired.

Does this help?

>>11558800
Get Zol a Gyan Kreiger ASAP!
>firework Document

>>11558800
Hm. Well, more often then not when someone does get hit, it is Bernie. I'd like to see him in it, but it's a risk. I say either that or just another FZ if we want to play it safe.

Zolomon definitely gets a Gyan Krieger though.

>>11558800

Errr... what's a Kampher look like again? I mean, the Act Zaku has been doing good, but it'll take some time to fix, so why not work into a different MS?

>>11558869
Okay then. Bernie in a Zaku Kai. To be fair it's probably the MS he's best suited for.

You enquire about the availability of Gyan Kreigers. You manage to find one currently being put back together after being salvaged last night.

"It was pretty badly damaged, but since a lot of the internals are UMP we could just swap them out and patch up the armour. We were going to give it a brief shakedown first, but I guess it should be fine. Watch out for problems in case we missed something."

You thank them anyway and take the Gyan Krieger.
Which is essentially a lot like a Gyan, except it's got improved thrusters, extra verniers for agility (you won't really get the full benefit on earth though) a beam lance, and it's shield comes with a pair of low power beam guns and 4 grenade launchers.

>>11558924
see image here: >>11558658

It's basically a high speed hit and run MS, armed to the teeth but shit all armour.

>>11558924
The Act Zaku is fine. It's Bernies ride that got totalled, and we're just getting him a brand new one to replace it.

>>11559063

Hrm. Seems to fit Lister's style

Captcha 177-181 problems

Prophesying much, captcha?

LET'S DO THIS SHIT

So, final requests are thus then?

David in the Act Zaku
Zolomon in the Gyan Kreiger
Jol in a Gelgoog Cannon
Elaine in a Gelgoog B
Bernard in a Zaku Kai
Calvin in the Dowdage-E
Hovis in the Rhino

Sounds fine?

>>11558924

>>11559121
Yes! dammit let's GO!

>>11559041
>Watch out for problems in case we missed something.

This is going to come back to bite us.

Double check the suits ourselves before we go.

What are we expecting out there?

Or are we just a reserve force meant to hit anything that looks like a breakthrough?

>>11559121
Sounds good. I'm curious as to how a Gyan will work out for us.

>>11559153

With your line-up chosen the techs get to work. They should be finished in about an hour or so.
Around about half seven, an envelope marked "Top Secret" arrives from M'Quves desk.

You open it up, presumably your orders for today are inside. You skim the contents.

TOP SECRET ORDERS
FROM: ODESSA FIELD MARSHALL M'QUVE
TO: CMMDR D.LISTER (ZC, ZKCmOD, BoM) NACHTMAREN CO

Dear David.

Due to the semi-nebulous nature of your unit's command structure and of independant military units in general, I am technically unable to make cast iron orders of you, but nevertheless Lord Captain Garma has ordered you to defend Odessa, which you ARE beholden to, and hopefully you believe that following the local chain of command is conducive to that. Everything I've seen and heard from other so far seems to validate that you are an fair and reliable individual in this respect.
I only bring this up, as I feel I may be about to ask entirely too much of you. Only yesterday you stood on the precipice of total victory over the Federation, now I believe you can be so again, but only if your willing to go further than anyone has ever done so for Zeon.
David, in the name of finishing this war:
Revil
Must
Die.

--MESSEGE ENDS--

"Hmmmmmm." you comment.
"This is going to end in mushroom clouds. I can feel it."

TO BE CONTINUED.

>>11559419
>Revil Must Die
OH ITS ON NOW BITCHES

YEEEEEEEEEEEAH

>>11559419
Sonofabitch.

1 vote for disregarding M'Quve's order and capturing Revil.

>>11559419
If David kill's Revil you will never be forgiven, Apologised.

>REVIL MUST BE CAPTURED

ftfy

C-cant we advise Revil to quietly retire and go fishing?

We can bring beer afterwards. D:

>>11559419
Oh sure let's kill the famous General Revil, Make him a martyr that cause Federation forces get fired up for some retribution on us as well as letting more Titan-esque members of the Feddy high command get control.
Bad idea.

No Omake?

>>11559563

We should talk to M'queve about this.

Lets use this example:

"Lets say, out of the blue, someone kills Lord Garma? He's be a Martyr to the Zeon cause. It would cause us to fight harder.

We do this to General Revil, we'll be doing the same thing."

Right?

>>11559598
I was also thinking we could emphisise it to be too much risk attacking what is likely to be thier best defended area for what wouldn't be satisfactory gain, but M'quve would likely just get pissy and consider us cowards, and is certain in his tactic that cutting off the head will deal a major blow to the body.
And he's right that it might cause a fair amount of disruption in the feddy forces attacking Odessa, but it's still not a good idea overall.

>>11559690
I don't think we should mention GARMA DIEING AT ALL! That might send some red flags to this guy who doesn't know us at all.

We should TRY to convince him that straight up killing him would only hurt us, as it could motivate Fed forces, and anyone who takes his position would likely be unwilling to make peace when we want to.

Revil isn't a moron. If we kidnap him, talk to him for a while, and can convince him that a truce is not only possible, but favorable to continued war, we can use him to end this god damned war before Christmas.

>>11559585
Too tired. I should have managed my time better this episode to be honest.

I say we send out an invitation for Revil to come with us and have some tea.

While we are on top of his Command Vehicle.

Pointing a Beam Carbine at him.

And smiling.

>>11559690
We need to find Revil and then convince him to "Come with me if you want to live."

Seriously though, if we could capture him we might be able to convince him to order the rest of the EFF to surrender. (Slim but not impossible.) The alternative is that we wear ourselves out fighting on Earth and then Girhen tries to take over and the war lasts ANOTHER year.

>>11559756
I LIKE THIS

DIRECT

TO THE POINT

"REVIL! I KNOW YOU'VE READ MY BOOK! I WANT TO TALK!"

>>11559724
Remember tho, he's already been captured once, I doubt he want's to go through that palaver again.
And this time instead of being out-tech'd, he ALSO has giant robots.

Not to mention...

He's read our book

>>11559787

Maybe we can tempt him with a signed copy...

"New Luddite" Oh man, Captcha you so crazy...

>>11559756
-Boom Headshot-

On Lister

From GM Sniper

Piloted by Bandit

Revil declines your invitation.

It's one thing if we kill him in battle. It's a war, people die, especially when those people are in the military.

If he surrenders or we capture him, though, then we personally escort him back to Lord Garma or Lady Kycilia, flipping the bird to M'Quve if he gets pissy about it. Killing him in battle makes him a casualty; it's murdering him afterwards that would make him a martyr.

This time we should make sure he doesn't escape, though.

Guys, I appreciate that Revil is a cool dude (General Revil's Badass Fedation and all that) but he's a perfectly valid target if he's on the field. He's their chief strategic officer and taking him out would throw the Odessa attack (specifically) and the whole Federation counter-offensive (generally) into chaos. It's not like he's a public figure like the Zabi's, holding the Federation together with his personality, he's just their general and killing him is going to be nothing but in our favor.

I'm starting to feel we're getting too big for our boots. Capturing/killing Revil? No I can't see that working, it's like if we'd actually managed to take out Amuro just now.
Unless,,,the GM is trying to tempt us into a 'Trap',,,Like Bandit trying to lead us into the tank rush so long ago,,,

>>11559834
>holding the Federation together with his personality, he's just their general and killing him is going to be nothing but in our favor.

That's the problem, he IS the man that held the Federation together with his personality. He singlehandedly prevented the Earth Federation from surrendering at the start of the war.

I forget, but did we ever disable Gihren's Solar Ray before shit kicked off?

>>11559834
Actually, Revil kinda IS. He's the main reason the Feds bothered continuing with the war for this long, because he's basically the only thing that was keeping their morale up. He's not only one of the most competent out of the Feddy command structure, but also the most well known.

>>11559896
And now they've got balls (of every sort) and Gundams. They aren't just going to roll over and let themselves be beaten when Zeon is already fighting itself.
His death would like I said only strengthen thier resolve and let the scum rise to the top.

>>11559896

Yes, his "Zeon is exhausted" speech had a notable impact but it's not like it suddenly makes him a huge lynch-pin of public morale to the point that they'd be enraged by his death, he's not a nobleman or cult figure or something. He's a general, and a very good one. Even if he does somehow become a martyr and huge rallying point for Feddie morale, the loss of his strategic guidance would still more than make up for it.

>>11559757
I don't quite see him ordering the Federation to accept surrender since this is the guy that made the historic 'Zeon is Exausted' speech. Maybe a ceasefire?

>>11560002
>>11560004
If Revil told the rest of the Federation military to surrender they would do it because they trust him.

If we capture him we've got all of the information we need to convince him of what'll happen if the EFF keeps fighting. We know what Girhen is capable of and that includes another colony drop to finish off both sides. The war has to be ended swiftly and that is no longer within the Federation's capability.

Seriously, is anyone really objecting to a quick hit and run to blow up the Feddies main strategic planner? We aren't going to get him out as a captive, we'd get ourselves blown to shit trying. But we might, just might be able to get in, destroy their headquarters, and get out again alive. That's honestly all we can hope for, and the only real way to get out of the Battle of Odessa with our forces reasonably intact, at least intact enough to put up other defenses and hold our other Earthbound conquests.

>>11560104
Except the advatage lies with the Federation the longer the war drags on. They have more resources and more manpower than Zeon even before we split in two and started killing each other. And he bloody well knows what kind of genocide the Principality is capable of, it didn't cow him into submission before.

>>11559952
uh dunno were we ever in a postion to?

>>11560131

That was with the Antarctic treaty in place though, and Ghiren might very well be willing to break it and go back to nuke/gas/colony-drop warfare if it means winning, which is a game the Feddies can't really play at this point.

>>11560172
Dude did you forget all the discussion in the old threads about why [BREAKING THE ANTARTIC TREATY IS BAD] ?

The Federation outguns us in term of Nukes.
If the Floodgates are opened and the kid gloves come off we'll get caught in the middle of both of them.

>>11560212
Yeah, we'll get fucked by the Feddie nuke spam, the feddies will get fucked by a colony drop and Girhen will be sitting in Side 3 with a Troll face as both of his enemies get killed off.

>>11560212

Yeah, that was before the Solar Ray though. With that Ghiren could just scorch the parts of the Earth he disliked without the time and risk involved in the fleet action necessary to perform a colony drop.

>>11560299
SOLAR RAYS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!

>>11560339

Why not? It took out a good chunk of the Feddie fleet (and his father) from an absurd distance already before it was even finished (in the anime, for people who don't know), it's not really a stretch to think it could be fired at the Earth.

I dont know gundam as well as you guys so I cant say much about all that but this nobleman guy is the ocerall commander for this operation isnt he even if hes not our commander, so would we be able to refuse his secret plot without it truning out badly for us?

>>11560397
It's a colony and a large array of solar panels turned into a solar laser
>>without the time and risk involved in the fleet action necessary to perform a colony drop
It is neither easily portable nor immune to attack

>>. After witnessing the effectiveness of the Earth Federation's Solar System during the Battle of Solomon and fearing the Federation's next move would be a full-scale assault on the home colonies, Zeon's Supreme Commander Gihren Zabi ordered the construction of a massive solar powered beam projector known as the Solar Ray System
Not to mention there's no reason for it to be around at this point

>>"This is going to end in mushroom clouds. I can feel it."
OH GOD!
M'quve's going to try and nuke the Federation forces like in the series!
And why do I only arrive when the thread is already over dammit!

>>11560499

Well we do know it's around right now, for whatever reason, due to previous threads. Also since it's already proved (in the anime) that it can strike targets from very long range in space it's reasonable to assume it would be able to be tuned to hit Earth. It probably couldn't reach Mars or anything, but it's already close enough to Earth to be dangerous where it is. No need to move it into close orbit or spend days meticulously escorting it into position, the entire Zeon fleet can guard it where it is and it can itself be used against any retaliatory fleet the Federation might send.

>>11560499
>>11560636
plus we know he's emptying another colony thanks to dear old mother.

>>11560636
Dude you can't just make stuff up capability-wise that was never hinted at in the show. Hell it's like you're trying to downplay the Federation when they really are still in a strong position.

They have no reason at all to suddenly surrender after fighting for so long, we shouldn't treat them like some harmless toddler getting in the way of our fight with space hitler.

>>11560726

Oh I'm not arguing that they should surrender, just that Ghiren has a nasty ace up his sleeve if it comes to it. Also it's really not making things up, I'm just extrapolating based on available evidence. There's absolutely no reason to assume that a laser than can already fire such a distance can't have it's focal point tuned to hit Earth. That's a quality of lasers in general, not of the Solar Ray in particular.

>>11560763

But can you keep the laser focused despite the scattering effect of Earth's atmosphere? At that range, no.

You can only use it to threaten any Feddie ships stupid enough to come within effective range, meaning the distance you can fire the weapon and still hit the target before it moves too far off course AND the target hasn't moved so much that instead of the laser concentrating in one spot it gets dragged across the target and only scorches it.

No more than three light seconds, at most.

>>11560858

I'm not so sure, myself. Logically if the atmosphere is enough to dissipate the power of the Solar Ray enough to negate it when it's focal point is tuned on Earth's surface then normal sunlight in space would have to be intense enough to vaporize warships in seconds, which it patently cannot do.

cept the solar ray cannon is just another bullshit anime superweapon that charges itself on sunlight and focuses it into a super beam shot.

>>11561149

It's been variously called a solar powered beam weapon and a giant laser, there seems to be little official information either way.

>>11561171
The Solar Ray was apparently nothing more then a more directed Solar System. The actual Colony Laser wasn't invented until the end of the Gryps Conflict, and was a far more efficient weapon.

That said, the Solar Ray was stationed either within the boundaries of or nearby Side 3, meaning it wold have to fire either at or beyond the Moon's distance from Earth. I doubt its range is that far.

>>11560858
A light-second is (roughly) 300,000 km. The distance from the earth to the moon is (again roughly) 384,000 km. A laser weapon with an effective range of three light-seconds is a threat to any ship in earth-lunar space that it can get a line of sight on. If it has enough power behind it and a large enough lens (neither of which would be an issue for a colony sized weapon drawing on a colony sized power supply) it won't matter if it can't focus onto a spot smaller than a hundred meters across when it shoots through the atmosphere, since it'll just melt anything it hits. A wider angle beam might be better than a narrow one, since you want to target large formations of ships all at once instead of popping battleships one at a time.

>>11561284
No weapon of such wanked out killing power exists in Gundam.
Apart from the turn-A.

>>11561280

That does conflict with some other info though, like the fact that it apparently took as much electricity as was produced in Side 3 in several hours in order to fire. If it just focused ambient sunlight through mirrors or something, there would be no need for all that electricity. It's also been actually described as a 'colony sized beam weapon' though that may just be a bad translation. It's ALSO said to be powered with many colony solar batteries.

So basically I have no idea. If it's a beam weapon any speculation is worthless, if it is in fact a really big laser than no matter how it's powered it could effectively wreck targets on Earth.

>>11561360
Well then since it was never stated to have such a capability then I think it's better to err on the side of caution and say it cannot burn earth from Side-3.

>>11561340

But it does, there's even four of them. The two Solar Systems, the Solar Ray Cannon, and the Gryps Colony Laser.

Not to mention the Angel Halo in Victory, which was also UC Gundam.

>>11561395

That's the thing though, if it's a laser, as is often stated, then it's completely feasible, even easy at that size, to make it hit Earth. Even if it was built without the ability to do so for some retarded reason then it could be easily modified to do so.

It's like saying 'sure they could build a gun to hold 30 bullets that size easily, but since it's never stated how many it holds we should err on the side of caution and say it only holds 2' or something

Hitting the Earth with a laser that size would be trivial. It would almost be harder to make one that couldn't, honestly.

>>11561420

Oh yeah, Victory also had the Keilas Guilie, a 1.2km long satellite cannon which is stated to be more devastating than a colony drop, which is a 20-30km long object falling from orbit.

The solar system weapons seem to be 'just' giant solar focusing mirrors. Those are simple in that they don't need any power source, but hard in that they would need to be flexible. If the Solar Ray needed to be charged before firing then it must have some kind powered laser backed by huge banks of capacitors. All you would need to be able to hit targets on the earth's surface would be to have your monster fire in a lower frequency than the ultraviolet, since everything above that gets sucked up by some layer of the atmosphere.

Still, putting in in side 3 seems rather silly. You've got the moon siting in the way blocking your fire for almost all of the strategic map.

>>It's like saying *insert bullshit false analogy*
More like it's actually abiding by the canon of a device you have no idea the true properties of.
If the weapons were really that devastating they would have been mentioned and been a much larger plot point
They weren't, so they aren't.

>>11561547

Well it's obvious that they can move colonies due to the whole colony drop thing so it stands to reason they could move the Solar Ray Cannon in the same manner if they needed to. The point of it in the anime is that it was hastily implemented due to the Feddie attack on Solomon and fired even more hastily, burning it out. If they'd had the leisure to build it properly then it could just have been moved.

Not that it was really needed anyways, you don't even need mirrors or anything, just a ton of Fresnel lens' in various places in orbit, they don't even need to be together or anything, just all focused on the same spot. But having a few hundred small ships drop off 100m square plastic sheets in orbit and go 'lol we can destroy anything on Earth now' isn't really very exciting.

lol all the aftergame discussion has gone on longer than the actual quest part of the thread

>>11561557

That's the thing though, if it's a laser then they certain could have fired it at Earth. I don't think you understand just how easy it is to focus a laser that size to hit a target just six or so light seconds away. It would be trivial, absolutely trivial. You can't just say oh well THIS laser couldn't do that because it doesn't follow the basic principals of lasers at all.

Also the reason it's not used in that manner in the show is that it was only partly functional just before the last battle and it was burned out after one shot, prompting the Feddies to attack quickly to prevent another firing.

In the end though you don't even NEED any of that complicated stuff to wreck Earth from orbit, you don't even need to drop a colony, all you need is a few ton of plastic and the ability to move around in orbit. The reason we're all politely ignoring this in TV, video games, etc is because like ALL theoretically real-world space combat it's boring, and likely to be over in seconds before anyone else can respond or do anything about it.

>>11561613
>Gihren, memo to self: If I ever do feel the need to assemble a game changing super-weapon (If?) be sure to make it out of thousands of redundant and easily replaced sub-components. (Efficiency!) They'll all laugh, but we'll see who's laughing when my thousands of plastic orbital mirrors make me the undisputed ruler of all space!

>Additional: ...but they'll LAUGH at me. People will never take you seriously if you don't show them you've got the stones needed to gas a few million people. Oh, the conundrum of it all.

>>11561809

Man, who could ever doubt that Ghiren would gas millions of people? Seriously, just look at his face!

Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lens and http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6111190.html so we already know that can be made cheap and flexible and deployable in orbit. Just make as many as you want, maybe a few hundred meters across and deploy them wherever you please in orbit and presto! Instant super-weapon. Hell, if they're flexible all you need to do is stretch them to alter the focal point so you wouldn't even have to be in a specific orbit or anything and you could re-focus to new targets in seconds.

>>11561484
When you have a high powered laser of any kind hitting atmosphere you get beam diffusion. It'll super heat the air into a plasma state which'll disrupt the ability of the laser to get all the way to it's target. I'm not saying it wont work, but it'll lose a lot of power in the process.

>>11561992

Sure, but all you'd have to do then is tune the frequency down below ultraviolet and it'd get through just fine (probably). That's only really doable if it generated the light itself though, if it just refocuses sunlight onto a target then that's not an option. See earlier for speculation on that though.

>>11561893
The main problem with using underpowered solar mirrors as weapons is that they only really work on certain angles. You can't shoot at a target that is 'behind' you relative to the sun, and as they get further away from the front, you start to lose efficiency. You can counter this by using one mirror to bounce light to another, but then you need to put up twice as many to get the same result.

Still, not bad for a bargain basement superweapon. Even if it can't wipe out Jaburo in one mighty blast you can at least melt the polar icecaps and bury the coasts under 60m of new ocean, or incite global winter by setting all of the forests on fire.

>>11562166

That's the beauty of a Fresnel lens though, it's not a mirror, it's a scored plastic lens that focuses light that passes through it, and by controlling the focal distance and angle you can hit anywhere that you can see as long as the light source (the sun) is more than 90 degrees from you target point, giving you far more flexibility than a mirror. Hell, carry a mirror too and you can hit the target no matter where you are in orbit.

In addition since they can be made flexible enough to shift the focal point on the fly you can keep on target virtually forever, and with multiple sources all focusing at one point there's no igniting the atmosphere in a local area, so very little worry about beam diffusion.

All you'd need is maybe 100-200 of them at about 100m square and you could incinerate anything on Earth or in orbit very quickly. It'd need some R&D of course, but what doesn't?

Not that I'm suggesting them for this quest, that would defeat the flavor of the setting rather completely, just pointing out how easy it would be to make a real life orbital weapon system and why focusing on single giant cannons is somewhat silly at that tech level.