rolled 6, 4, 5 = 15

The end of the fourth month approaches. Recent events have made you less than satisfied with the state of this nation's government, but, in the short term, there isn't much you can do about that. The high nobles are making every attempt to investigate Kharok Four, located directly beneath a sizable city in Matmer, and have already bought the land holding K21. So far, they only know of the installation within your territory and those other two, and are ignorant even of the location of Kharok Main. You have successfully acquired a small strip of land containing K6, as well as a fair number of other holdings that are far more ordinary. Since all of these were bought within days of each other, the government is understandably interested in inspecting them.

Command and Guardian are linked in via radio relay and standing by for orders. Guardian has already locked down most of K5 and is ready to respond to intrusion with lethal force if necessary. You have ten anti-viral cylinders to assist in the retrieval of information from infected consoles in other bases, but you won't have hazard suits or anything similar until further repairs to the databases and fabricators are made. Korus, your Frost Giant associate and patient, is being held in a subterranean complex near Dreamwood Industrial, and the attending doctors are supplied with enough painkillers to keep the young man pleasantly docile for the next year or so.

rolled 4, 4, 2 = 10

>>11309001
Full-size 'heavy' locomotives have been developed and are ready for production. Further progress in the memory charm department has led to the creation of the 'note' amulet, which greatly extends short-term memory. A group of armed investigators has been organized and dispatched to ascertain the fate of the convoy that disappeared on the way to Dreamwood so many months ago. You have received a proposal for alchemic recycling tanks, large, magically enhanced apparatuses filled with acidic compounds that break objects down to their component parts.

An inquiry posed by your Diplomatic Division has born fruit: The government of Matmer has offered to sell you three square miles of land on an island under their control (marked on this map by a red circle), for a rather extravagant price. You also have a contact in the consulate of Simplessis, should you wish to establish a holding along the coast.

oh wow, i really need to reread Frost Giant Quest if you have trains running around. i hope you have a productive session Sub DM

rolled 6, 4, 2 = 12

>>11309034
Thank you. I also hope it goes well.

rolled 5, 5, 4 = 14

>>11309009
Horray!

Ok posting the longer version of this plan to make sure there's no misunderstandings:

We've got lots of artifacts that we recovered from Kharok city. We've made an agreement with the government to do joint research and to tell them all of the known locations of ruins. We didnt tell them about the city or most of the other locations we havent explored yet, let alone that we have a fairly large operation at the city itself. As SDM said if we keep sending airships back and forth to Kharok City the Garrison forces at K5 are going to notice the traffic. We cant keep the city's existance a secret for long as they start to do research on the outpost. If the Government finds out we were working there ahead of time and didnt tell them about it we could be charged with treason and threatened with execution (or slavery).

The best way of getting around this is to get all of our stuff out of there now. We have artifacts recovered from the city in our R&D labs and we've agreed that all of the stuff we've removed so far from K5 will be turned over to the government. They're then going to notice that the golems we took from the city dont respond to the commands of K5's computers. To deal with this we can either bring all of the stuff back to the city and dump it somewhere, or we can make it look like the it had been transported to K5 by the Frost Giants 1800 years ago. Really either works. We could try hiding the city artifacts in our Dreamwood R&D but again if we got found out it would be a charge of Treason.

rolled 4, 4, 2 = 10

>>11309129
For general information, in case anyone wants a summary, the terms of the agreement with the high nobles are as follows:

You will hand over some degree of weapons technology, consisting of designs currently in mass-production (lever-action rifles, bolt-action rifles, basic zeppelin designs, tri-barrels, light artillery, man-portable machine guns), intentionally over-engineered to give the government a bit of trouble.

All facilities will be jointly administrated. The high nobles will have the right to order you to any installation for up to three days per month, unless some legitimate circumstance prevents it. Everything taken from the ruins will be studied on-site by joint crews. They will have the right to exclude personnel from the facilities if your administrators agree, or if they are deemed a security risk. They'll tell you why they think someone's a security threat, unless it is so serious that the information itself is vital to national security. In that case, though, the person in question would be arrested, not just removed from the facility.

Everything you can possibly hide will be placed in separate secure facilities. Obviously, they will be suspicious if you tell them you didn't take anything from the ruins at all.

Only got to about thread 30 when the suptg archives crashed. Anybody have any alternate links to them so I can catch up?

rolled 4, 1, 5 = 10

>>11309243
I believe easymodo might contain them, but navigation is a bit difficult. Unfortunately, I relied almost entirely on sup/tg/ to contain past threads, which was a bit stupid.

>>11309186
Kickass.

>>11309129
Since we're still in the Capital we should send some of the advisors back to Dreamwood with sealed orders for the Twins to take care of the above.

While were in the area we might as well stay here a couple of days and take care of some things.
Ensure gun registry system is implimented (I think the Lords agreed to this in our negotiations. SDM?)
-Create an arms company for selling directly to the government. Establish Factories in cities near capital for small arms, and heavy arms. Ammunition factory should be somewhere remote enough to avoid collateral damage in case of accident. Ensure ammo factory is built in such a way as to direct explosive blasts up and away from other parts of factory. Sell blackpowder and cordite ammo brands. Cordite should be marketed as a special high power ammo and that it's manufacture should be made a state secret for the time being. While we would own the factory it really should be under the conclave's control. This should help repair some of the lingering bad feelings following them finding out about K5.

Make side trip to university. Apologise for not sharing voice radio sooner. Find out if there is any technology they have not made great advances in that we could share with them. Make a donation to their archeology department. ("You can learn a lot from the past. We really had no idea we would find anything so important.")
Talk to them about Photography and donate some money for silver.

-Look into possibility of polymorph type magic existing in the world as potential means of getting around Frost Giant curse. Probably too convenient to actually work.

-hire private investigator/mercenary to track down missing convoy. If dead find out who did it. If alive find out where they are. Reward of 1 firearm, 1 firearm licence, ammo and a negotiated down payment. Already suggested this at the end of last week's thread.

>>11309009
ait wait wait. How can Matmer sell us that islan? It's not within their borders, it's not there's to sell! I think holdings along the coast would be better anyway, since we'd hopefully be near the capitol of Simplessis, and have a ready supply of labor to hire for any seaside projects.

rolled 6, 4, 3 = 13

>>11309243
Alright, scratch that last post. All you have to do is put the thread number on the end of the link and easymodo will direct you right to the archived copy. Number 30 is here, for example:

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/8421993

I will post the numbers of the threads since then, and the mediafire links for those that couldn't be archived.

rolled 5, 1, 5 = 11

>>11309360
Here are the links to all threads since 30, besides those in the OP.

#31: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/8455920
#32: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/8549748
#33: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/8584677
#34: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/8666502
#35: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/8706196
#36: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/8801449
#37: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/8820012
#38: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/8839638
#39: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9088542
#40: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9108613
#41: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9128774
#42: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9234259
#43: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9274286
#44: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9382537
#45: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9424460
#46: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9531360

rolled 5, 6, 1 = 12

>>11309412
#47: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9549247
#48: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9672525
#49: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9692576
#50: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9713601
#51: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9817416
#52: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9856237
#53: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9965818
#54: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/9986925
#55: http://www.mediafire.com/?kyn3ymjgglm
#56: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/10117592
#57: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/10161840
#58: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/10274944
#59: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/10320460
#60: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/10602809
#61: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/tg/thread/10739498
#62: http://www.mediafire.com/?qwmayd2zwmq

>>11309412
I love you, man

>>11309412
>>11309425

A whole lot less of this would be awesome.

rolled 6, 1, 5 = 12

>>11309326
Acknowledged. You'll have Kharok Main abandoned and the artifacts from there scattered either in the city or in K5.

The gun registry has been implemented, per your instructions. Currently, it's a Dreamwood-specific thing, since the government's bureaucracy will be slow in adopting it.

A firearms and ammunition company will be organized as a subsidiary of BemCorp, according to these specifications. Startup will be a bit slower than normal, since you, your holdings, and your associates are still under surveillance.

Side trip to New Aarmour queued. Timing is up to you.

Polymorph research confirmed. The investigation group has already been gathered.

rolled 2, 5, 2 = 9

>>11309345
It's not within their land borders, no, but it is under their jurisdiction, as are several other islands. They also control a corridor through the unclaimed lands to the sea, though they haven't claimed it officially.

>>11309455
>>11309487
No problem. If I had attempted this sooner, I would have been able to check my information, so thanks for bringing it up.

>>11309326
>>11309554
Wait, I thought we had already told Perin about the other Kharok facilities, as that was one of the terms that we agreed to?
If so, after the pullout, shouldn't we tell them about Kharok Main, simply because they'll find references to it in the K5 database?

Also, I am for expanding our holdings to the sea. How much is Matmer demanding for their island, and look into getting some coastal colonies in Simplessis. Nuclear-powered magical ballistic missile submarines, ahoy!

>>11309626
Ah, alright. Well I still support getting sea-adjacent holdings in Simplessis rather than buying an island.

rolled 2, 5, 3 = 10

>>11309635
You didn't tell them about all of the facilities, opting to keep them secret instead. Since the databases cannot be accessed without your aid, and they are all recorded in the Frost Giant language, not to mention that you could order Command and Guardian to lock them all, there is little risk of the high nobles discovering any other installations through that route. For now, at least.

They are not selling the whole island, only three square miles of territory on it, on the Eastern face. They are asking half a million crowns, which would be easily covered by BemCorp. It's just a steep price for undeveloped land.

rolled 4, 4, 6 = 14

>>11309635
>>11309724
Would you like your land in Simplessis to be near certain things, such as the capital or large cities, or would you like them to be out-of-the-way? Or both?

>>11309724
Supported.

>>11309554
>A firearms and ammunition company will be organized as a subsidiary of BemCorp, according to these specifications. Startup will be a bit slower than normal, since you, your holdings, and your associates are still under surveillance.
That's cool. Just be sure the government is going to actually be buying these guns before we get too far down the line. How long would you say it'll be until the pressure starts to ease off?

Low priority before returning to Dremwood:
-ask about newspapers in major cities, if they have them, methods used, etc

Have we advanced our printing tech enough to be able to print pictures and/or possibly newspapers? If not we should look into that a little bit.
Once we get to the point where newspapers are becoming mainstream we should see about making a deal with a country bordering the wild lands for a larger scale pulp and paper industry. We know that the wild lands are cursed or something with fast growing plants that prevent settlement. If that's the case we have access to a rapidly renewable resource that we wouldnt have as much worry about exhausting. This way we wouldnt have to wait 100 years for a tree to grow big enough to harvest.

>>11309793
Near the capitol would be good. That far away from Dreamwood, we need to have our holdings there near a large supply of resources that is easily provided by the capitol.

rolled 1, 2, 4 = 7

>>11309796
Hard to say. It really depends on what happens in the next few months. If you and your government cooperate fully, going above and beyond the call to make the high nobles comfortable with the arrangements, then you should see a return to nearly pre-incident conditions in six months. In the immediate future, they will be easing off a bit, since there is no 'real' reason for them to pressure you so much when they've already gotten so many concessions. But you can bet that they will be keeping a close eye on you until something changes.

The major cities have newspapers, magazines, catalogs, and the like, though, since printing hardware is more primitive than on modern Earth, they are usually uncolored and lacking detailed pictures.

You are capable of both, but rather washed-out primary colors are the limit of your best presses. Do you want to see about getting a paper material deal now or later?

>>11309834
As you wish. I'm assuming the consensus is to disregard the island deal and look for something more substantial.

Would you like to look around the capital for a bit, head to New Aarmour, or go down to Dreamwood?

Man, where is everyone today?

>>11310004
Let's look around the capitol a bit before heading back. Maybe inspect some of those ornithropter companies we bought out/partnered with.

>>11310004
>Do you want to see about getting a paper material deal now or later?
Might as well get it now if we can. That way we can start to see about selling paper products to the newspapers and magazines already in the capital region.
Would it be a good idea to check some of the shipments for magical intrusion? You mentioned that the problems with the wild lands are heavily magic in nature.

>Would you like to look around the capital for a bit, head to New Aarmour, or go down to Dreamwood?
Might as well look around while we're here. Other than our visit to the Prince it's been a few months since we spent any real time here.

This is a bad quest thread.

rolled 4, 3, 4 = 11

>>11310093
>>11310094
Alright, stand by for capital exploration.

>>11310094
You'll have your advisers start hammering out a transport deal with a firm bordering the wildlands. Since the vegetation within seems to be incapable of expanding beyond the current borders, and dies quickly upon removal from the 'zone', there shouldn't be a problem. Still, security checks will be maintained just in case.

You know, we're fast approaching the point where we will need advanced engineering, metallurgy, chemistry, and physics for our more ambitious projects. This means mathematics.
We need more and better math, for everything that we are trying to do.
So, in order to try to headhunt more prospective future scientists, how about offering full scholarships to our Academy for any worthy child not in Dreamwood?
To find more talent, we should see about setting up Dreamwood funded schools all over Perin, and the printing of small pamphlets of puzzles and math questions, as a way of administering an IQ test to the general populace, and recruiting those that score high into our Academy, who will then work for us after graduation.

>>11310262
IQ tests are dumb
Every child who wishes to partecipate should write an essay about why he wants to join.
The best essays will be selected.

we need more scientists

>>11310340
>essay writing
>to find mathematicians

rolled 4, 4, 3 = 11

The capital is as bright as ever, bearing quite a resemblance to all that 'shining beacon of hope' nonsense that gets thrown around the loyalist papers. It might not be the largest or the most impressive city in the land, but it is by far the richest, and the center of a staggering amount of corruption. It almost makes you nostalgic for home. Almost.

The roaming whistle of a modern locomotive marks your passage into the central districts, the great pinnacle of trade and thievery. Local news proclaims the same old headlines: Resistance Still Strong: When will the war end?, Landspar to Expand in Cyreth, Hart Pleads No Contest in Murder Case. Old NY could be a block away, for all the difference the scenery makes. As you walk, you can't help but compare it, every detail seeming to match up to Earth's in your mind.

There isn't a man or woman on the street who wouldn't recognize you, the Countess, the hero, industrialist, and technologist who had the recent misfortune to end up on the wrong side of the high nobles' table. The well-dressed, snobbish elites look at you with contempt, and the commoners regard you as they would a true friend of the people. Now, more than ever, the divide in popular opinion consumes conversation. You have a hard time believing it, but you're such a towering figure in the culture that there probably isn't anyone in all of Perin who doesn't know who you are.

In this place of wonders, the heart of the nation, everything comes together. There is news on practically every subject, and so much to see you could hardly hope to glimpse it all.

>>11310367
Mathematicians will write about how they like mathematics and what they know of mathematics

We should have separate standardized tests for all fields.

As in no essays to become biologists. That's just stupid.

grapple the giantess

>>11310262
Sounds good, great even.
We also need to find a mechanical genius that could start building early computing machines. If we and the government were to just copy the Frost Giant computers it would only do us so much good because we dont actually know how to build them and what makes them tick.

What are Perin's relations with Eulian like? It seems like a real power house, or at the very least pritty big. Could we see about recruiting students from other countries? Or would that be a problem for national security?

rolled 6, 3, 1 = 10

>>11310262
You already offer scholarships, though not on a large scale.

You can certainly set up schools in other areas if you want. Your newspapers are already printed with crosswords, something you insisted upon, and it wouldn't be hard to distribute pamphlets containing both traditional puzzles and examples from Earth, such as Sudoku.

>>11310353
Indeed.

>>11310401
The Ministry of Education handles standardized testing in certain subjects. Do you want a test drawn up for every conceivable field, or would you like to take a more limited approach?

If Simplessis doesn't ask for too much, let's purchase both holdings near their capital, and several other in slightly more secluded coastal areas.

As for our new holding in Cyreth, I'd like sent a field survey team there, just to see if there's anything of worth besides K6.

Also, can we get an update on ICE development? What I'd like to do is leapfrog past using gasoline, and develop ICE's that use hydrogen. We may need to use titanium in order to contain the much higher explosive power of the combustion, but with alchemists transmuting cheap ores into titanium and producing cheap hydrogen, I think we can make it work.
Now, I'm not saying ignore gasoline ICE's altogether; they're easier to get to, and faster to build. We should still build them in order for R&D and Air Division to begin experiments with powered flight, bi-planes, and mono-plane designs, but all of this should be done with the expectation that hydrogen engines will be the way to go.

How about we put this advertisement in the journals of some kind:

"Have you invented something that you think could change the world as we know it?
Tell us about it!
DREAMWOOD and BEMCORP are looking for amazing ideas, machines, spells, trinkets or even books!
Contact <insert_contact_here> to receive a free review of your thing.
If we find it good enought, we will mass-produce it and you'll receive part of the sales earnings!"

rolled 3, 4, 5 = 12

>>11310424
R&D#1 has been working on a difference engine for a long time, but even Vasian doesn't have the right 'genius' to visualize one properly. Since your schooling system has already discovered several prodigies, there might be merit in that direction.

There is not much contact between Eulian and Perin, more because of distance than anything else. The most recent information places it as a rather fragmented confederacy of lesser states that tends to spend more time in internal conflict than in anything else. Due to its size and power when united, not even Forus would have attempted to conquer it.

You should have no problem recruiting students or even workers from other countries. Security is a concern, but what the government was most concerned about was Forusian agents. They don't worry so much about other nations, particularly since the closest are either allies or emphatically neutral.

>>11310443
>HYDROGEN combustion engine

what the hell have you been smoking man

hydrogen vehicles are a huge step ahead, we'll need EXTREMELY sophisticated materials and extremely advanced machining.
Not to mention the difficulty of handling gaseus fuel. I'm very sure we don't have the technology to liquidify gases yet.

>>11310424
But Brain, where are we going to get a satellite dish and five hundred orders of french fries at this time of night?

>>11310439
Do the newspapers in the capitol already do crosswords and stuff? If they don't we could suggest it.

>>11310558
no keep the crosswords an exclusive

>>11310439
As another poster asked, can we recruit students from other nations? Perhaps spread the influence of Dreamwood and Bemcorp even further?

As for standardized tests, have ones made for general subjects, such as Engineering, Mathematics, Chemistry, Linguistics, and a small one called Abstract Problem-Solving.

Also, how can we acquire holdings in Forus? I find the idea of, after becoming something of an Ace Combat figure in the Perin-Forus War, becoming the Lady over some of them.
"Damn Perinese dog!"
"Quiet you fool! That's the Blue Demon!"

frost giant computers are more advanced on some aspects like AI simulation but on pure computational power and ease of use Earth computers lead on

Look at me
Look at me
Just called to say that it's good to be
ALIVE
In such a small world
All curled up with a book to read
I can make money open up a thrift store
I can make a living off a magazine
I can design an engine sixty four
Miles to a gallon of gasoline
I can make new antibiotics
I can make computers survive aquatic conditions
I know how to run a business
And I can make you wanna buy a product
Movers shakers and producers
Me and my friends understand the future
I see the strings that control the systems
I can do anything with no assistance
I can lead a nation with a microphone
With a microphone
With a microphone
I can split the atoms of a molecule
Of a molecule
Of a molecule

Look at me
Look at me
Driving and I won't stop
And it feels so good to be
Alive and on top
My reach is global
My tower secure
My cause is noble
My power is pure
I can hand out a million vaccinations
Or let'em all die in exasperation
Have'em all healed of their lacerations
Have'em all killed by assassination
I can make anybody go to prison
Just because I don't like'em and
I can do anything with no permission
I have it all under my command
I can guide a missile by satellite
By satellite
By satellite
and I can hit a target through a telescope
Through a telescope
Through a telescope
and I can end the planet in a holocaust
In a holocaust
In a holocaust
In a holocaust
In a holocaust
In a holocaust

rolled 5, 5, 2 = 12

>>11310443
Beachfront property near the capital is likely to fetch a high price. In more rural areas, not so much.

The survey team has already been sent by Courier Zeppelin.

With ICEs, you're not very far. The main problem is finding a configuration that works for more than a few minutes before breaking or violently exploding. Your researchers' experience with steam engines helps a lot, but the devices you're using are still rather crude. As before, it is only a matter of time until you have something usable, but the first prototypes will be large, heavy, and unwieldy. Experimentation with hydrogen engines queued.

>>11310504
It shall be done. This will probably result in a flood of half-baked ideas for your advisers to sift through.

>>11310623
Make a review crew for it expecially.
Inside the ball of hay, we might find a golden needle.

>>11310673
and perhaps some good scientists too

rolled 4, 2, 2 = 8

>>11310548
You can personally produce temperatures low enough to liquefy gases, but doing it mechanically, using pressure, would require hardier materials and machinery you haven't developed yet.

>>11310571
Yes.

Subjects confirmed. Standardized tests will be drawn up and put to use.

You will need government approval to acquire land in Forus, particularly if that land happens to be inhabited. If anything, you will be even more recognizable in Forus, due to the fact that your destruction of much of their invading force and the summoned giant (multiple times, in that case) is public knowledge.

>>11310709
have we ever discovered who was that noob fighter giant ?

rolled 4, 2, 5 = 11

>>11310673
As you wish.

>>11310722
No, unfortunately. You still don't have much information on him.

>>11310623
>It shall be done. This will probably result in a flood of half-baked ideas for your advisers to sift through.

Then maybe we should branch that off into another company. Inventors of Perin perhaps?

>>11310524
Eulian sounds a lot like China a century ago. As for recruiting internationally we need as wide of a recruitment pool as possible to find the very best.

>>11310548
Very valid ponts.
Are there any engineering problems that might be mitigated or resolved via usage of magic during the production process?
Liquefying hydrogen might be possible via ice magic, and containment in special magical vessels, but that won't be good in a tank or other combat vehicle, especially when we have anti-magic missiles flying all over the place.
My main concern is the situation on Earth now, where petroleum was used so heavily and so long with appropriate measures used to find a more sustainable and environmentally less damaging alternative until much damage had already been done.

timeskip

>>11310750
The real problem with Earth is not that the technology doesn't exist, it's that:
1) the Petroleum system is REALLY fixed into society and economics. You've got an enormous infrastructure to supply oil, plastics, fuel to every city in the world. If a change to Hydrogen ever happened, a LOT of people would lose their jobs.
2) Petrol corporations are fucking rich. I'm very sure they corrupt and pay people in order to make Hydrogen vehicles never come out.

rolled 1, 4, 4 = 9

>>11310746
BemCorp can handle that function as well, through yet another subsidiary.

You will cast your net as wide as possible. Be aware that transit times will work against you here, but you are already linked into Cyreth by rail.

>>11310750
For actual construction and fuel gathering, alchemy will be most useful. If the materials used are not strong enough to stand up to the strain on their own, they will have to be charmed or developed further. If you want to rush this project, you will need a large degree of magical involvement to make it work.

>>11310753
Parameters for timeskip: Do you want to look around the capital some more, go to New Aarmour, or go straight home?

>>11310822
Oh, I know that.
As the first, and currently only, petroleum company, I'm sure that we can keep some of that from happening.
My concern is that once we have our industry really churning and we have tanks, planes, zeppelins, destroyers, and submarines all going, that we'll constantly be on the lookout for new sources of petroleum to keep our industrial and war machines fueled.
In order to prevent that scenario, I'd like to begin the development of Hydrogen ICE early, and make sure that our researchers know that Petrol ICE is only a stepping stone.

>>11310926
Go to New Aarmour before we head back.

>>11310926
buy stuff for the orphan homes
then travel to aaramour
then go back home

>>11310926
Look around the capital a little more, talk with our people here in Dreamwood Secondary, find out how the simmering class war is going.

rolled 4, 6, 5 = 15

>>11310954
>>11310958
>>11311003
Stand by.

>>11310958
Donating to orphanages can be a good thing, especially if we fund them so that the children are educated and sifted for potential student to Dreamwood Academy.
One more way to get more scientists, or at least, competent technicians and engineers.

>>11310822
>>11310937
Interestingly, the first successful ICE was actually hydrogen-powered, in 1806.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francois_Isaac_de_Rivaz

>>11311123
We're talking about efficient engines. The first one was probably horribly inefficient.

>>11311197
More than likely.
But with magical forging technques, we might be able to create the alloys that we would need much faster than in Earth's timeline. Hydrogen ICE is not a priority yet, but a definite goal to pursue.
So, considering that we are starting with a blank slate, where should we go after Petroleum ICE? Continue along the same path to Hydrogen ICE, or switch to electric motors utilizing either batteries or hydrogen fuel cells?

>>11311307
electric motors have a ton of uses, I'd say to go for those

rolled 6, 2, 4 = 12

With all of your projects more or less in hand, you take a short trip through the remainder of the capital before rendezvousing with your Zeppelin at the edge of the city. Along the way, you meet more than a few admirers and detractors, enjoying the little talks you have. The 'lesser' people would invariably prefer you to any of their other rulers, while the rich and powerful see you as naive and unpleasantly out of touch with the real power structure. You're willing to let them continue thinking that right up to the moment you put Erivrus on the Moon.

In Secondary, things are going very well. Since Intelligence has backed off a bit, the people can get some work done without feeling like they're constantly being watched. As a little piece of the County all the way out in the government's territory, Secondary attracts strong feelings from many, and supports a burgeoning tourist industry, despite the fact that there really isn't much to see, aside from your 'summer home' and the truly massive terminal. While there, you order an increase to the housing development program, which is sure to have a profound effect on the less-developed areas.

>>11311307
>>11311123
>>11311197
While we're on engines, spark ignition or compression ignition? Or should we research both? Diesel does have certain advantages over gasoline.

rolled 1, 4, 1 = 6

>>11311395
The approach to New Aarmour brings you in close proximity to one of the College's more ambitious projects: airframes. Advanced-looking ornithopters tow an assortment of gliders into the air and let them slice through the air unpowered as your Zeppelin descends to anchor itself in an empty field. Many of the gliders are oddly-shaped, but a few come startlingly close to a 'modern' wing design, better than your own scientists have been able to construct. The institution is far larger than you remember, built up considerably and appearing much more cosmopolitan. Those within hold no ill will for you, at least no more than most. They would prefer increased cooperation, for the benefit of all, so they say, but your reasoning for keeping so much to yourself is self-evident. It has profited you greatly, after all.

Back home, you find that the high nobles have been busy. Two of the AMTs you built for the military hover above the K5 site, and a research complex, barracks, and short wall are under construction below. A priority radio message confirms that all of the Frost Giant artifacts have either been placed in the ruins or 'disposed of', and the two AIs have locked almost everything, suspending all repair processes. However, you still have thirty-one people in Kharok Main, and their only way out is by Zeppelin.

Orders?

>>11311410
Tell New Aaramour that we make profit from our knowledge so we can realize more. It is necessary, otherwise we'd remain with no funding for our projects.

>>11311410
Guess the the teams up north will have to wait until the military transports leave later or claim they were out searching for Frost Giants.

Strongly suggest an Orientation briefing for govenment teams arriving at K5. To be held in one of the open vehicle launch bays now used as a main entrance from the airship landing field.
I wrote up a vesion of the above briefing, it's a bit WALL'O TEXT though. If anyone wants I can post it in greentext?

rolled 3, 1, 1 = 5

>>11311454
"That's obvious."

However, if you cooperated with the government's network, you would get plenty of funding, partially through taxes. And, though you are growing, you don't have the resources to implement things on a truly massive scale, as proved by rail. This will change, of course, but the government has the resources you need right now, and all you need to get them is to be a little more friendly.

That's the party line, such as it is.

rolled 3, 2, 1 = 6

>>11311495
Go ahead.

>>11311410
Have Command restore self-repair of the fabricators and of the databases; we want those environmental hazard suits for K9, and the sooner we take Karos off of the meds, the better.

Prepare a zeppelin to take us to Kharok Main to pick up our personnel, and then to K9.
We told the High Nobles about K9, yes?
If not, prepare several zeppelins, and send them on survey expeditions into the Unclaimed Lands. They will set down and do some surveying, but they will then go to Kharok Main and extract our personnel. They will take the appropriate flight paths back so that theiy don't all come from the same direction.

As for New Aarmour's plane designs, give them some information on control surfaces and let them know which of their designs most closely matched Earth-modern ones. We need to get our planes in the air quickly, too. Have a wind tunnel built where plane designs can be tested.

>>11311410
Hmmm, I don't see why we couldn't give New Arrmour access to our latest radio tech. It would be a nice show of good faith and let them keep in touch with us easier, making future technology sharing easier.

>>11311654

I'm all for this, myself. Sharing communication tech can only make it better, on the whole.

rolled 4, 6, 2 = 12

>>11311623
As you wish, provided no one disagrees.

Preparing. The high nobles do not know about 9, only 4, 5, and 21. This flight plan will be used.

>>11311623
>>11311654
I'll need a consensus on technology exchange. The wind tunnel can be built easily, though. Would you like it constructed underground?

>>11311569
>Lined up along the back wall of the vehicle launch bay are a number of inactive golems and closest to one of the doors leading farther into K5 stands Korus.

>"Ladies and gentlemen Welcome to the ancient research outpost known as Kharok 5. You have chosen or been chosen to participate in studying what is very likely the most important archeogical find in Perin's history. As I'm sure you're well aware we'll be working together to tease out the secrets of this place and find out how the Frost Giant society of long ago managed to mix magic and machinery in such an effective manner. What is learned here will benefit not just Perin but perhaps someday the entire world.

>In the month since we first gained entrance to this place, and the subsequent national crisis, we've learned a great deal about it and some of it's inner workings. Just so that you all know this Briefing is to ensure the safety of yourselves and everyone nearby. When we first activated the magic and machinery controlls here we found that it was in the middle of a self destruct sequence. If it had gone off everything around you here would have been disintegrated and the surrounding lands for more than a mile in every direction would have collapsed down into an empty pit. No this is not an exageration, I really wish it was though.

>It is my scincere wish that we can avoid any accidents here by approaching our work in a careful and patient manner. I hold little doubt that the High Lords, like any 6 year old in front of a cookie jar, believe reaching in and taking what comes first to hand might be a good idea. Only some of these cookies may be hazardous to your health. If your superiors expected to have instant results they were likely mistaken. We'll learn more about how fast we CAN safely progress the longer we've been at it."

>Cont

>>11311654
How about phone tech instead? As I recall, they were having trouble with that too, and I would prefer to keep radio, with its military applications, closer to our chest for now.

rolled 6, 1, 4 = 11

>>11311712
Holding orientation in the vehicle bay would violate the policy of obstructionism you seem to have adopted. Giving the high nobles access to one of the VTOLs, even a damaged one, would be particularly... interesting. Revealing that you took and are holding an adolescent Frost Giant would also invite questions you may not like.

>>11311712
>It is my scincere wish that we can avoid any accidents here by approaching our work in a careful and patient manner. I hold little doubt that the High Lords, like any 6 year old in front of a cookie jar, believe reaching in and taking what comes first to hand might be a good idea. Only some of these cookies may be hazardous to your health. If your superiors expected to have instant results they were likely mistaken. We'll learn more about how fast we CAN safely progress the longer we've been at it.

>Moving on to actual familiarization. Kharok 5 or K5 is controlled and operated by a central magically powered mechanical control system or 'computer,' which calls itself 'Command.' It is responsible for pritty much everything in here and allows easier access to information in it's database. Much of it's memory was wiped to prevent a molevolent energy entity from gaining control of K5 but a great deal of information remains. Cataloging it all could take a lifetime. Needless to say you'll end up interacting a great deal with Command once you've all be entered into the database. As repairs are completed you will be able to access Command from anywhere in K5, this includes voice interaction. Yes this does mean you'll eventually be able to talk to him from anywhere inside but for the moment it should only be done at consols. Command is also responsible for the control of certain types of golems. More on that later.

>Guardian is another computer system similar to Command. It is responsible for security throughout K5 and has control of it's own force of golems armed with stunner weapons. Guardian is under orders not to hamper efforts to restore and study K5. If for whatever reason security golems block off an area it is probably best to leave it alone for awhile. Talk to Guardian or command to find out why.
>Cont

>>11311808
If we do end up going to K9 to get Korus healed we're going to have to take a government team with us as part of the agreement. I figured might as well get it out of the way sooner rather than having him get shot at while we're in the middle of nowhere. I only chose one of the vehicle bays because if figured it'd be large enough for everybody.

>>11311709
Concerning letting the High Lords know about K6, K9, and Kharok Main:
We can't keep them secret forever, especially if we want to be able to do more research at them.
How does this sound: we let them know about these facilities in several month's time, explaining that the database repairs have proceeded enough to give us these locations.
I'm leery about K6, because we own land that it's on, and they might get suspicious again.
The alternative is only let them know of K9 as we look for it.
Also, when we first discovered Kharok Main, didn't we contact the Conclave about it?

>>11311808

The nobles are gonna have to know about what all's here physically eventually anyway. As for Korus, well, considering the stance we took on our mutated cousins, they probably wouldn't be surprised to find we'd been experimenting on one.

>>11311813
>There are areas where the floor has been destroyed or the ceiling has collapsed. Give sealed areas a few days and they should be opened up after they've been repaired. Still be careful though, falls from 20 feet or more can hurt.
>This is one of the security golems. I've made sure that they wont use lethal force on anyone. Their stunners are capable of knocking out someone without causing permanent injury, but at higher power levels they can kill. Some of these golems have been deactivated for all of us to study. All of the stunner weapons that we had previously found have been returned and they will be available as well.

>Next up are MediGolems. These are the same kind that helped cure the Prince with the assistance or the other healing systems in K5. You will normally only find them in the Medical area. The ones that had been removed for study by Dreamwood R&D have been returned, they'll remain inactive for everyone here to examine. Those in medical will remain active, ready to treat any serious injuries. Later on everyone should take the opportunity to get scanned outside of medical, you never know what disease or injury it might be able to heal.

>Repair and utility Golems. They come in several shapes and sizes and are working to repair K5, returning it to full operation.(Or will be) It's going to be a few weeks until most of the repairs are finished so until then they wont be available to be deactivated for study. If you see them working on something please do not interrupt them, just leave them alone. You can find out from command what they're currently working on or if it would be ok to analyse them with magic while they work.

rolled 4, 2, 5 = 11

>>11311902
No, I don't believe you did. Several were very adamant that it be kept secret, as I recall.

>>11311884
>>11311921
If everyone's on board with it, then you'll reveal his existence as part of the orientation process.

>>11311902

Yeah, that's right. They had tracked the Ice Demon all the way to the city when it took the whole place with it and vanished.

>>11311884
What about the reception area? It IS a reception room for Giants, after all. Besides, it would a while to properly clear away all of the soil on top of the hangar doors.

>>11311808
to hide installations in areas we own couldn't we build our manner where the entrance is to hide it? The town or city itself would be risky but if its a building only we and the DCE use it should be fine. Then just have the city itself the normal distance away or slightly more.

>>11311941
I'm for keeping the installations secret.

>>11311938
>Now there's someone I'd like you to meet so that you dont get alarmed later. This young man's name is Korus. Anyone working near medical or K5's old living spaces may encounter him. He may be accompanying us on a later expedition once Command has located another outpost. He'll leave you alone if you leave him alone. If somebody acts like an idiot and intentionally starts something I'm not going to be held responsible. He'll be helping us explore one of the other sites once command has pinned down it's location. Any protests about him being here can be directed to me later on.

>This may bore some of you but I'm going to give a brief rundown on the history of this outpost. Nearly two millenia ago the frost Giants were a very civilized people. Outposts like this one were constructed to study various types of magic and technoloy and to find ways of mixing the two. They were very successful as you can all see. A lot of their research was very dangerous so they built this place in what was considered the middle of nowhere. I guess some things dont change? Their studies included teleportation, insubstantiality, anti-scrying, and combining magic and energy.

>1800 years ago one of the labs lost containment on the magic and energy section and it infected the compuers, releasing everything contained in the other labs. Most of the Frost Giants working here were killed, the 4 survivors attempted to activate the station self destruct but failed. They then fled to one of the other outposts.
>Cont, last one

rolled 4, 6, 5 = 15

>>11311946
Ah, that's what you're referring to. My memory's a little foggy, so I don't know how much information came from the gods and how much was from the Conclave.

>>11311982
You could certainly build over any entrances you find, but if K5 is any indication, they can be many miles in diameter, so hiding them completely would be difficult, especially considering the availability of magic.

>>11311941
I suppose we should probably warn the Lords about Korus before the orientation so that they're not surprised.

>>11311982
That's an idea, and since K6 is probably our only Cyreth holding (or one of a few), then building a manor house there would not be too suspicious.
My main concern is trying to out-spy a national intelligence agency backed up by magic. We have the will and the ambition for an extra-territorial megacorporation that is stronger than many nations; I'm just concerned that we might not have the intelligence assets or resources to back up that ambition.

>>11312036
>We have reason to believe that similar events occured at most of the other outposts at the same time and that it was the result of a coordinated attack from an outside force. All of the Frost Giants were infected with a virus that effects the brain and the body as they grow older, making them increasingly more hostile and less intelligent.

>If we screw up in our studies and a similar virus is released it could doom the entire human race not just those of us working here. Thankfully there is no sign that the virus survived all of this time, but because of this I'm recommending medi-scans on a regular basis. Everything I've talked about are to be taken as a guideline, the new administrator is welcome to develop a new set of rules that work better.

>That's about it as far as the briefing goes. Some of the people who have been working here will be showing groups of you around so that you get a feel of where everything is. Dont hesitate to ask questions. I'm hoping to set aside one of the abandoned research labs for use in studying and cataloguing artifacts and technology. If the designated administrator could come with me I'll be showing you around the Command center and making sure you have full access to K5.

*Cough*NotquitefullaccesstoK5*Cough*

rolled 1, 6, 2 = 9

>>11312059
That's a good idea.

>>11312069
Currently, you don't. The most senior members of DCE are the twins, and most of your people have less than a year's experience in intelligence work. Dreamwood's population, in all areas, amounts to 1,791. Facing the government's Intelligence and all its manpower is suicidal.

>>11312170
Ask for a private meeting with the King. Tell the King and ONLY him about the flying city with the frost demon inside.

>>11312018
While I'm all for keeping the installations secret, I simply don't think that it is a viable course of action, knowing that scrying magic exists and is available to the High Nobles.
If we build a manor iover K6, they will attempt to scry it. Even if we put up an anti-scrying field, they also would know from K5 that the facility could be miles in size, and so would simply scry underground in our holdings. We would have to cover the entire area of the facility in an anti-scrying field.
If we did that, the High Nobles would either demand that we allow inspectors into our manor, or they would send their spies in; spies that are much, much better than our own.

>>11312223
Agreed.
Seconding this. >>11311902
>How does this sound: we let them know about these facilities in several month's time, explaining that the database repairs have proceeded enough to give us these locations.

>>11312200
seconding this

"This is one of the biggest discoveries I've made. I have an extremely big suspicion that a Frost Demon I've accidentally released while fighting in the Earth's Core is now somehow piloting a giant flying city with incredible amounts of old Frost Giant technology. Yeah, it sounds friggin' absurd, but that's how it probably is"

>>11312200
We don't know that it's flying. The demon got to the city, and then it and all the frost giants following it vanished, along with its anti-scrying field. And I doubt that the city's flying system would have wrenched it so brutally from the ground as it appears to have been from what we've found.

rolled 5, 5, 5 = 15

>>11311712
>>11311813
>>11311938
>>11312036
>>11312097
If there's a consensus on it, orientation will follow this as exactly as possible.

>>11312200
Granted. If there are no disagreements, you'll head back to the capital tomorrow. It's been a long day, and orientation will take you into evening. Besides that, it would be a bit odd to go right back when you were just there a few hours ago.

>>11312223
>>11312170
These two sum up my arguments. If we want to search a facility, we might be able to get away with it. But if we want to set up a research base and actually send in research teams, then it'll be impossible to keep secret.
When we have to give out information on Kharok facilities, we can probably get away with "the databases were restored enough to recover these coordinates for another facility".

>>11312279
what we know:

1) the city has disappeared
2) an extremely powerful entity was last detected inside it
3) the city has systems to enable it flying

to me, it sounds pretty clear that the frost demon used its own magic to supplement the city's flying system and depart

>>11312293
>Besides that, it would be a bit odd to go right back when you were just there a few hours ago.

Maybe wait a couple days while we get the Gov teams settled in?

Can we build a giant, super-armoured fortress-on-rails to use as our private transport ?

>>11312315
Except that that doesn't explain how it instantly disappeared, or how all the frost giants that were left miles behind it when it sped up suddenly vanished instantly along with it.

>>11311709
>build wind tunnel underground
Yes. Not necessarily for secrecy's sake, but simply so that atmospheric conditions can be more easily controlled for experiments.

>>11312355

Ehhh, well, we already have a private uber-zepplin at our disposal. Also, air travel is faster.

rolled 1, 2, 1 = 4

>>11312343
That would probably be best.

>>11312355
Yes, but the rails cannot support infinite weight, and you would only be able to go where there are lines, unless you had the fortress carry a Zeppelin as well.

>>11312371
As you wish.

>>11312360
frost giants got teleported by the frost demon
and "disappearing istantly" depends on your definition of it too.
A speeding car going past disappears istantly from a certain position on the road, for example.

>>11312393
Yeah make the fortress something friggin' amazing with guns n shit and halogen lamps and stuff

>>11312444
Nah, I'd rather wait until we can construct a flying Mana Fortress.

>>11312423
Alright. But I hope that the king doesn't take this badly.

rolled 6, 4, 1 = 11

>>11312444
No one is likely to appreciate having an armed fortress train on the rails, regardless of who's on it. I should remind you that your Red Wings squadron remains a County secret, protected by anti-scrying fields. An enormous steel juggernaut bristling with heavy artillery would be very... noticeable.

>>11312444

This is a ridiculous idea. I'd support it, under normal circumstances, but we have a bit more to worry about for now.

I do, however, propose that the first 4 Heavy Trains we produce, since they are now available, be referred to as the Hokuto brothers: Kenshiro, Toki, Jagi, and Raoh.

>>11312491
great idea!
lets sell it to the government, calling it an "Experimental Weapon I"
there will be only one copy of each Experimental Weapon from us. Each Experimental Weapon must be different.

>>11312491
Speaking of the Red Wings, make sure that their accuracy problems are fixed before we give the Perin military a demonstration. I wouldn't do to have our premier military contribution be missing its targets.

>>11312513
what the fuck are the hokuto brothers
dont put dumb weaboo shit in this western game plz

>>11312550
you idiot its kenshiro
the ATATATATATATATATATATATATATA guy

>>11312532

How about no. Seriously. Besides, once we dig some of the ATV's out of the ruins and figure out how they tick, we can start producing us some Warthogs.

>>11312532
Maybe we could name them after Super weapons from Ace Combat.

>>11312532
I SHALL NAME HER "DORA"
WHEN DORA SPEAKS, CITIES TREMBLE

>>11312574
I'm against using Frost Giant tech a lot.
Our vehicles must remain immune to anti-magic fields, which we will use extensively in warfare.

>>11312577
>Ace Combat superweapons
The experimental superplanes or the actual superweapons?

There is some overlap.

>>11312550

You are already dead.

>>11312603
holy shit
build one of these NOW

rolled 4, 2, 6 = 12

>>11312513
As you wish.

>>11312532
It will take a rather long time to build, and require some dedicated space. Nevertheless, enqueued.

>>11312545
The Red Wings themselves are fine. It was the carrier-borne ornithopters which had the problem. Fortunately, the Spitfire's calibration issues have been dealt with, so there will be no embarrassments.

>>11312621
As proved on Earth, super-artillery pieces...

Okay, what are you planning to use it for?

>>11312577
Awww, but I wanted the Hrevesliger, Hrimfaxi, Stonehenge, Monolith, Excalibur, and all the rest in Dreamwood's service and under our command!
Then again, as Subproc once pointed out, all of them were downed by small fighter planes; it might be better to give the bit Ace-targets to people we don't like.

>>11312621
>>11312603
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XnV9hJ_2As

FAP FAP FAP

>>11312603
I can dig it.

>>11312640
WE don't need it

but you can fucking bet that the government will LOVE it

>>11312640
the way of thinking in the government still seems to be 'bigger is better' imo
presenting them a Dora will make them cream their pants

>>11312662
Make it a present for the lord himself.
put a throne on it so he can ride and fire.

>>11312640

Don't build the tank gun. The stupid thing had to be fucked with every three shots due to stresses on the frame, and they had to keep upping the size of it's ammo every hour because it wore out it's barrel too easily. And for another thing, OUR RAILS DON'T EVEN GET ANYWHERE NEAR TO THE FRONT, so making it would be pointless except as a "we did it because we could" point.

>>11312621

Well, our private army IS already wearing Hugo Boss and all, I suppose it's not that big of a step...

Tell me, have we already started building airplanes with turbosuperchargers in their engines? Because a jet engine is just a slightly modified turbo. So we could spam Komets and while building Nazi railway cannons to support our Nazi soldiers with true Nazi superscience.

Okay we're getting off topic with the super weapon talk. A huge gun train like the Dora would require far more infrastructure than is available to the country right now. It's only real use would be as a siege or terror weapon and any of the conventional artillery that we're going to be selling to the government will do the same job for much less.

>>11312710
we have magic, we can make it work better.

>>11312710
the barrel could be VERY easily fixed with a modified house-builder magical charm
and stop ruining our fun you fag

>>11312640
What do you mean, what will we use it for? It'll look awesome, that's reason enough! And the military could probably use it. Heck, maybe THAT can be the train superfortress thing. Only reinforced with extra weapons and armor.

>>11312710
>>11312730
You two are the bane of quests like this

rolled 1, 1, 4 = 6

>>11312661
>>11312662
>>11312680
Supergun development has been added to the research queue. You will need a whole new generation of machines to haul something this massive, not to mention the material stresses. However, since magic is available, some of the old problems may not be quite as pronounced. At the very least, it will have astounding range.

>>11312692
Alright.

>>11312724
You don't even have working ICEs yet. Your options for air propulsion are limited to steam engines and muscle power.

>>11312749
I suppose. It does represent an incredible investment, of course.

>>11312710
"Near" is relative.
Dora shot at her targets from nine miles away, and was considered to be getting into knife-fighting range by her crew because of that. Also she didn't do much damage, at all, and was a strategic and logistic nightmare, but that's how Adolf liked it. I swear that man threw money at every insane project that got tossed in his direction, if they'd had anime in Germany at that time he'd have tried to develop fucking transforming mecha to replace infantry.

DON'T BE HITLER, /tg/! BEING HITLER DOESN'T END WELL.

>>11312646
>Hrevesliger,
ಠ_ಠ
Hraesvelgr isn't that difficult to spell, you know.

And you forgot Megalith, the Scinfaxi, Arkbird, SOLG, the Morgan (was technically a superweapon), the Chandelier, and the satellite weapon from Electrosphere.

>>11312779

Fuck you, playing big blue Indiana Jones is awesome enough. We just need to get back to the Jones-ing part.

rolled 5, 5, 6 = 16

Let's get right to it.

Is it in your interest to start a dedicated superweapon development program?

>>11312797
Well of course, but were we not saying earlier that we should make a concession to the High Lords of our technology to assuage the bitter feelings? I'd say that a Dora modified with even more weapons and armor would go a long way towards that.

new plan:

1) find flying city
2) woops is that a four meter long anti bunker shell that we just fired ?
3) enjoy fireworks

>>11312854
No

>>11312854

No. We already have a fairly lucrative deal with the Red Wings coming up. That's practically already superscience in this world as it is.

>>11312854
yes, if we give everything to the government we'll get huge rep bonuses
it doesn't have to be good at anything
just fucking impressive

rolled 3, 2, 2 = 7

>>11312873
It is also true that, in the future, such a thing could be used against you. It would be wise to develop countermeasures concurrently with the actual weapon.

We should focus our efforts on developing ICEs.

>>11312854
No. Just a temporary one to make the Dora. We'll see how things go from there.

Let's just timeskip to the orientation with the High Nobles or whatever at K5.

>>11312779
Hey I said the infrastructure isnt available 'right now' because we're still building it. In a few more years with the plans to have rails that can handle these things ahead of time then yes. Then we could build it quite easily. We should ask the govenrnment if they would WANT such a thing before building it though.

Actually, you know what? Come up with a way to put Dora on Erivus and we can walk it into battle. We'd probably need to swap out his forge for it though it's so big.

>>11312854
No.

>>11312854

Well, yeah, I think so.
The big problem with Nazi superscience was that the Nazis were trying to rapidly develop superweapons and had such a huge investment in the development of "revolutionary" technologies that they were rushing bad prototypes and clumsy first tries to the front lines because they just didn't have the money left over to get good tried-and-true tech out there, or even to produce such tech in the first place. We aren't at war right now, so, like Germany in the early '30s with the development of the Panzer III, developing superweapons NOW will aid us, so long as we don't keep shovelling money into it to develop Panzers IV-VII WHILE ENGAGED IN AN ALREADY COSTLY LAND WAR IN ASIA.

>>11312890

You know what. I'm changing my vote. We'll make the Dora, using magic and newer materials to smooth over the design flaws it had before, then hand it over to the High Lords. It's not strictly a high priority, however.

>>11313004
>>11312951

Well, until the infrastructure is in place, we could just have it be one of the designs on the drawing board. Erivrus could certainly act as a proper platform for it's deployment.

Sorry so late. Had a game of Munchkin come up.

Anyways, I took "fuck with the nobles" to be "potentially eliminate them".

/ck/ advises feeding the Nobles our own special brand of shellfish or mushrooms. Shellfish and Mushroom readily absorb heavy metals from their environment. Heavy metal consumption can lead to chronic illness.

/sci/ had similar ideas such as with candles containing heavy metals. Similarly, we could start introducing abestos-based goods into the Noble lifestyle.

Also, we could invent cocaine and turn them all into crackheads. They might be dismissed for incompetence or dereliction or something at some point.

>>11313004
>then hand it over to the High Lords
And then all the maintenance cost, infrastructure issues, logistical difficulties and general problems will be ALL THEIR FAULT! And all the impressive supergun aspects will still be ENTIRELY OURS!
"You gave us a useless expensive deathtrap!"
"Well it was a fine hardworking invincible wunderwaffe when I gave it to you, I don't know how you managed to mess up this much!" mayatrollface.jpg

>>11313002
>We aren't at war right now

Hate to break it to you but Perin is actually involved in a war right now.

>>11313127
slow acting poisons are a bad idea
once they realize they're poisoned, they are going to pretend the same treatment as the king's son

>>11313127

I just had a horrible vision of a cracked-out high noble, decked out in a bright fucking open front leotard, painted up to look like a clown while going around, shouting "I DO COCAINEEE!"

rolled 4, 6, 5 = 15

On your orders, Command and Guardian prepare to receive 'visitors', releasing the locks on much of the installation and resuming the self-repair processes. Golems open up the areas you previously sealed, except for those that are too dangerous to be walked about in, such as Geothermal, or what's left of it. In the most pristine-looking vehicle hangar, you speak to the newcomers and your own people alike, revealing Korus to the government's agents for the first time. He looks frightfully smug, taking in the new faces like cattle being led to the slaughter. At least until you elbow him in the gut.

Over the next hour or two, you familiarize the 'troops' with K5's systems and introduce them to Command and Guardian. The latter has the projectors completely repaired, allowing him to project a face. It's a little bit disconcerting, but you don't know how much of that comes from the old Hollywood prejudice against such machines. At least he looks reasonably happy.

Fortunately, nothing goes wrong, no one stumbles into a containment room full of horrible beasts from beyond, and everyone seems to take things rather well, actually. Once the AIs learn a bit of English, you won't need translators or your own self present, at least for most things. With the work firmly in hand, you retire to the manor, secure in the promise that the high nobles will wait a little while to get their three days of assistance out of you.

>>11313176
Not only that, but lolmagic.
The Prince wasn't cured by their healers because his problem was also magic in nature.

rolled 3, 2, 4 = 9

>>11313190
The next morning, you feel quite pleased with yourself. The new arrangement, while not entirely to your liking, should prove to be a lucrative one in the long-term. You're positively full of ideas for new projects, such as an immense rail-bound artillery piece and a somewhat more mobile version for Erivrus to use. You're almost done with breakfast, scribbling a few designs on a stray piece of paper, when you receive a message.

It's Hretmar. The same feeling from your brief jaunt through the Forusian portal, when the old god was able to send you images through the tenuous link back home. It's fuzzy, coming through mixed with static, flickering in and out of view. A location, far from here, far from Kharak. A gigantic machine, fused to an interface that feels familiar. An image of a flying city, immense and powerful, firing into the air. Half a calendar, seven months with the days marked off in red.

The vision ends, leaving you with an unpleasant feeling in your gut.

>>11313127
>invent cocaine
>a plant

No. We'll invent amphetamines. And then methamphetamines.
I think the Air Force still gives pilots amphetamines to keep them sharp over very long flights (so we might have an actual use for such SCIENCE!-based synthetic stimulants), but they might have stopped that in the '60s.

rolled 1, 3, 5 = 9

>>11313205
Location marked in green.

>>11313205
Damnit, not good.
Those seven months, is that how long the pantheon has been out of contact?
My guess is that they've been fighting with the Frost Demon and his new Mana Fortress all this time.
That calendar could either be how long they've been fighting, or how much time Hretmar estimates before the former city of Kharok becomes a fully armed and operational battlestation.

>>11313205
Oh Christ.
Ok, NOW we go and see the King.

>>11313176
Heavy metal toxicity is among the more difficult illnesses to diagnose.

Example, cadmium toxicity. It makes the bones more brittle and prone to breaking. Who looks at broken ribs and says "I've been poisoned!" The noble would die from complications of broken bones, such as marrow getting in the blood stream.

Okay let's go to the king first and then we go to investigate the area

rolled 6, 5, 1 = 12

>>11313267
No, they've been out for longer than that.

>>11313205

Line to high command, fucking NOW.

GO TO THE LIBRARY
TRY TO CONTACT HRETMAR

>>11313268
I've been harping heavily on weapons development, citing the ice demon as the reason why we need powerful superweapons; I knew this day would come, but I had hoped later rather than sooner.

>>11312710
>OUR RAILS DON'T EVEN GET ANYWHERE NEAR TO THE FRONT
Mobile defensive artilliary.
If the French could have just quickly relocated the Maginot Line to the Belgian border, or quickly brought the fixed artilliary back to Paris, that war would have gone very differently.
Remember how Forus teleported it's entire army into the heart of Perin? You just don't know where the front's gonna BE in this world.

>>11313205
Okay, so maybe I was wrong about the ice demon making the city fly. Let's go to that location. Mark it as an extreme emergency so the Lords can't call us away.

rolled 5, 5, 5 = 15

>>11313268
>>11313276
>>11313288
Transport prepped. You can be at the capital in hours. Unless you'd rather transmit via the Conclave's distance link.

>>11313293
Nothing. Not a sound.

rolled 1, 1, 1 = 3

>>11313315
What's your reason for the emergency?

>>11313321
nobody but the king must hear about this

Gentlemen we have a new goal: research the FG technology so that it can be disabled.

>>11313335
Don't call it an emergency, just tell them we think we located another Kharok but we're not sure so we're going to investigate

>>11313267
>That calendar could either be how long they've been fighting, or how much time Hretmar estimates before the former city of Kharok becomes a fully armed and operational battlestation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JyoK8RVPE#t=4m45s

>>11313351
simple enought man
it's called anti-magic fields

>>11313342
Agreed. Only the High Lord should be told about this.
We should also try to contact any other people we know of who had close connections with the Pantheon to see if they were contacted as well. If not, it does not bode well, meaning that the gods only had enough power to spare for a single connection.

>>11313335
....Huh. I'm not sure. Divine guidance?

Tell our R&D the timetable for the anti-magic missiles has been upped. They need to get on it, ASAP.

In the mean time, board a Zep to the capital and have a chat with High Command.

rolled 1, 4, 1 = 6

Running with the throttle all the way open can't be good for the engine. Not that you care at the moment. The capital's structures come into view, somehow less than comforting in the afternoon sun. As soon as the Zeppelin's docked, you exit, practically running up the palace steps, entourage in tow.

The Lord is pleased to see you, as is his son. The Prince, confined to a wheeled chair, has regained his color, and, though there are faint scars from his quickly-healing burns, looks the picture of health. Since you saved his life when all his father's power was for nothing, there is the unmistakable sense of admiration and thanks about him. If it were any other time, you'd be happy to respond. Now, however...

“Countess! How nice to see you again.” The guards stiffen as you approach the throne, but the Lord is, as usual, unconcerned. “Now, you have something urgent to discuss?”

What exactly would you like to say?

>>11313451
"Yes, something urgent and preferably private."

rolled 1, 5, 3 = 9

>>11313377
So far, it seems that no one else has heard from the pantheon in a long time.

>>11313440
Acknowledged. It's now a high-priority project.

>>11313440
Also tell K5 Command to concentrate repair of a single VTOL, with a combat loadout. And tell it to do so in an out-of-the-way sector block so that it won't be interfered with.

>>11313451
We've recieved a warning from the pantheon, specifically Hretmar. Tell him about the vision and about the previous messege from months earlier not to look for them.

>>11313460
Good opening. I like it.

Crap. I just had a thought.
The Frost Demon took Kharok Main; there is a good possibility that it learned how Frost Giant computer systems work. If it has access to a Kharok Main AI, it can suborn any Kharok Facility computer network. We'll need to make sure that K5 operates in network autistic mode and make sure that the communication systems are not repaired until this threat has been dealt with.

rolled 1, 3, 4 = 8

>>11313460
The head aide glares at you, then glances at the Lord. He nods, and the guards begin to march out. The aide attempts to wheel the Prince out of the throne room, but the young man is extremely against it.

"If it concerns the kingdom, it concerns me. Leave me be."

May the Prince stay?

>>11313468
Done. One of the blocked-off hangars will be used. The repair golems will need to transfer parts from other hangars and the fabricators.

>>11313385

"I'm on a mission from God to save the world from the Blues."
>blues hopefully being a slur for frost giants

>>11313526

I'm ok with the prince hearing this news. It is fairly dire.

>>11313526
>May the Prince stay?
Damn straight he can, it's going to be his country some day.

>>11313526
Yes.

"Yes, the prince may stay, at pact that he won't reveal anything we discuss about unless allowed by you, mylord"

rolled 3, 4, 5 = 12

>>11313488
You tell him of the vision, and the previous order to not look for the gods. Only the Prince and the Lord occupy the room, and you have their word that no one else is listening. The head of state lets his head slip into his hands.

"It's not... official policy to deal with deities. On this occasion, however-"

The Prince cuts him off. "Screw policy. I trust you, and if you think this is a problem, then it's a problem. What can I do to help?"

The Lord looks at his son, then up at you, and sighs. "I'd really rather not get into another war just yet. But, if it's unavoidable," he sighs again, "Go ahead."

>>11313639
"All right, here's what happened. A frost demon we accidentally freed while fighting in the Earth's Core took hold of the ancient capital of the Frost Giants. He then proceeded to make use of magical flying system and lift off.
He also took a lot of Frost Giants with him.
We have reasons to believe that:
It is assembling a frost giant army armed with pre-fall technologies.
The gods have been trying to stop it, but have failed. It's the reason why they keep disappearing.
Hretmar, the Frost Giant god of Knowledge, contacted me this morning somehow and indicated a date and this place."

>>11313657
"Oh and did I mention that it's got an immense flying city armed to the teeth with extremely powerful magical weaponry?"

rolled 4, 6, 5 = 15

>>11313521
It is not possible to lock a Kharok Main system out of K5. If a transmission from one is received and authenticated, there is nothing you can do. However, without the primary communications hardware, the installation has no distance links. Command and Guardian have hard-wired communications components that allow them to control golems, which gives them a 10-15 mile range. To take these offline, you would either need to destroy or deactivate the AIs.

>>11313579
"As if he cares what I 'allow'."

>>11313639
We should see if the location can be scryed out but that'll be unlikely. We'll need permission to take one of the Frost Giant air vehicles and perhaps a team of elite warriors and mages and determine what's out there. If it's a threat we do what we can to deal with it now or find a weakness of some kind. If it's not there then we can expect the city to show up there at the date indicated.

>>11313678
>>11313657
"I'm here warning you both because I've got a real bad feeling about this. Like, the giant flying city comes here or in the neighbour country and bombards and destroys everything in its wake."

>>11313757
>Frost Giant air vehicles
bad idea
take a zeppellin, for all we know the frost giant air vehicle might get remote-controlled from the capitol with us inside.

"As I am sure you remember, my lord, Forus was using a superweapon situation within the mantle to strike at Perin during the early stages of the last war.
In order to destroy it, a group of adventurers and I ventured there. We met heavy resistance, and were about to fail, when I used a final gambit.
I had with me a sealed frost spirit; I knew it to be malevolent, but at the time I had been told that it's power was minor. I released it, hoping that it would power my spells enough to destroy the fire elemental guarding the Forusian superweapons; I could not have been more frightfully right.
The Ice Demon tore the fire elemental apart with ease, destroyed the superweapon, then made haste to the North. We later learned that it was heading straight for the ancient lost capital of the Frost Giants.
A year and a half ago, when it reached the city, it and the city vanished.
We knew it would be a danger to us in the future, but we had hoped that it would take it much longer to understand and begin repairs of the Frost Giant magitechnology.
Then, this morning, I received a vision from Hretmar, the last reasonable Frost Giant god of knowledge. It appears that he and the Perin Pantheon have been fighting against the Ice Demon for the past year, and unfortunately, they appear to be losing.
He gave us an image of seven months. I believe this to be the amount of time before the Ice Demon is able to repair the Kharok Main weapon and flight systems to operational status.
Yes, flight systems. A flying city."

>>11313769
Then we find out if that's possible from K5 before we do it. Voting we prevent the communications system from being repaired and have Command come up with some kind of lockout program that'll turn off the AI's if the city get's close.

If they're safe from remote hijack we could load up a flyer in an ornithopter Carrier and launch from nearby the location when we get there.

>>11313811
the flight systems were already operational when it took off:
even if the frost demon is very strong, it's not strong enought to teleport an entire capital

>>11313709
Okay, then just keep the long-range communications systems un-repaired for now.

>>11313769
That's possible. We don't know if the Ice Demon has bothered to attempt repair of any of the Kharok Main comm systems.
I think we should have it available, just in case we can use. Better to have it ready and not use, than to have to scramble it at the last moment.

rolled 3, 3, 1 = 7

>>11313657
>>11313678
"Well, what do you want us to do about it? If the Frost Giants' technology was as advanced as you say, I very much doubt anything we can pull together will help. The best we have was provided by you, after all."

The Prince is completely unwilling to accept defeat, or anything close to it. "We beat Forus, with the help of the Countess here. She did die defending us from the demons, remember? Well, temporarily. We should have taken care of that damn thing before, anyway."

"Son, we didn't have the manpower, the resources..."

It goes from there.

>>11313757
Is it Kharok that you want to find with scrying?

>>11313759
"Great. Now we know there's a threat. A way to stop it would be nice."

>>11313848
We don't know that the flight systems were in any operational state when the Frost Demon got there. We can't assume that and underestimate the strength of our enemy.

>>11313863
>Is it Kharok that you want to find with scrying?
No, I think he meant the area indicated to us by Hretmar.

>>11313863
>Is it Kharok that you want to find with scrying?

It's whatever is at the location Hretmar gave us. if there isnt anything there yet there's no point in immediately sending an expedition. If it is, we go and see if we can infiltrate and disable, possibly destroy.

>>11313863
"Well, we have an idea of a weapon powerful enought, but it is unimaginably powerful. Probably strong enought to kill Gods. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to use it.
After it was developed on our world, it started a 'cold war'. Two major superfactions that never fought directly otherwise they'd die both from the weapon, a situation called 'Mutual Assured Destruction' and it's not good at all".

>>11313709

"Because I'm partly to blame for this mess, I, personally, feel the need to put this threat down. I gave my research teams orders this morning to look into refining an anti-magic weapon, deliverable by explosive rocket. I doubt it will be enough.

If it comes down to it, there is but a single weapon I can think of to use, but the very thought of this weapon brings horrors to my mind."

>>11313918
No, I don't think we should tell them about the nuke yet.
Besides, the way that you're phrasing the delivery is terrible.

rolled 6, 5, 1 = 12

>>11313811
In seven months, you can build a lot of Zeppelins. What is it you wish the government to do?

>>11313843
>>11313854
The communications systems are no longer on the repair list. Command and Guardian will make it possible to disable them with a single order, but with the databases corrupted and incomplete, even they don't know what kind of measures the Frost Giants may have taken to keep them open to control. You might want to have some explosives ready, just in case.

>>11313940
We can't do anything more without information.
We need to scry the area that Hretmar gave us: if Kharok is there, then we can try to infiltrate it. If not, then we need to have the conclave begin scrying wider and wider areas for Kharok itself. Maybe look for large areas where they "can't" scry, indicating an anti-scrying field.

>>11313848
Are you forgetting that K5 was working on teleportation technology before it was overwhelmed? If there were prototype teleporters in the city, the ice demon might have been able to use them to move the city instantly. And it's only after a couple of years of work that it and its frost giant thralls have managed to get the flight system working.

rolled 3, 6, 5 = 14

>>11313897
>>11313909
The Conclave will prepare a long-range scrying spell. It will not be able to reach far beneath the surface, but there should be at least something remaining on the ground for them to find.

>>11313918
>>11313928
Consensus requested on unveiling nuclear weapons.

.>>11313940
im for hinting at nuclear weapons.
and of course for production as soon as possible

>>11313928
"You see, this weapon is able to destroy the very structure of matter in a conflagration so terrible that it had a non-written but mutual agreement to never use it in wars. There is but one thing more powerful (anti-matter), but it is ridicolously infeasible.

>>11313999
Oh and it makes extremely large territories pretty much unusable for decades or more".

>>11313991

only say as much as >>11313928 revealed.

>>11313991
No hinting beyond that "we might have an ace or two up our sleeve". No mention of nuclear weapons or their destructive power.

>>11313940
>You might want to have some explosives ready, just in case.
Do that.

>What is it you wish the government to do?
We may need fire mages. If I recall correctly we have some POW's from Forus. I'm sure with the propper coersion some might be convinced to go on a potential suicide mission a-la Mass Effect 2... which wasnt out when we became a Frost Giant, fuck.
We need to get information on what is out there ASAP. If nothing's there we begin preparations for when something DOES show up.

rolled 6, 2, 6 = 14

>>11313979
Understood. The Conclave's scrying range is really not that impressive, considering the size of the planet. Reaching all the way out to the indicated location will take a large amount of power, and most nations routinely make use of anti-scrying fields or something similar.

>>11313928
You reveal that you have knowledge of a terrible and powerful weapon, but nothing more than that. The Prince wants to know what it is, and if you could have it ready/make more/train others in its use in seven months.

>>11314062
"Do we really have to answer ?"

>>11314062
>The Prince wants to know what it is, and if you could have it ready/make more/train others in its use
Goddamnit. This is what I was talking about. Humans will, when told about a weapon, want to know if they can have it, and if they can have more. Never should have mentioned it in the first place.

"There are things from my world that can kill in ways you can't even imagine. Terrible things. There is a chance that I *MIGHT* be able to make such a thing, but to do so may unleash even greater nightmares upon this world.

But even if I can't construct the Destroyer of Worlds, and even if we don't HAVE a way to fight this menace, we must fight it anyway. We must stand against it even if we stand without hope."

fingolfin.jpg

>>11313991
>Consensus requested on unveiling nuclear weapons.
Not directly.
We should tell them that we're going to build an incredibly powerful weapon from our world, a city killer but that we want to make sure more of them can never be built otherwise nations might use it to destroy the world.

Ok I've got to go guys, try to keep a level head.

rolled 6, 4, 3 = 13

>>11313993
You will need more fissile material, which means intense alchemy research, mining, or acquiring a lot more plutonium heaters. Enqueued.

>>11314058
Command and Guardian's cores will be wired for demolition.

>>11314058
The Lord is understandably averse to using prisoners as weapons. If it is the only way, though, it is the only way.

>>11314086
"I'd like you to." The Prince smiles. "We can't help if you don't tell us how. This is not a time to be keeping secrets." He shakes his head, then laughs. "I'd like to say we're all in this together, but, well, you know."

>>11314106
SHUT. YOUR. MOUTH.
Releasing any more knowledge about this weapon is detrimental in the long run. Why are you going around telling people that you have an ULTIMATE WEAPON that you are not likely to use? The only thoughts in their minds will be "How can I take it for myself?".

>>11314127
"Yes, I can, but I'd like not to. This is a weapon that does not only bring death, but also horripilant injuries and it literally mutates populations for centuries."

rolled 5, 5, 4 = 14

>>11314106
Inspiring.

"You know," the Prince observes, "Unleashing great evil to fight another evil is how we got into this."

>>11314127
"I am sorry, my lord, but if there is one thing I have learned here on your world, and that I should have learned from mine, is that sometimes solving one problem only makes another, worse problem, for the future.
My world has seen wars that you cannot imagine; horrors that we visited upon each other beyond your worst nightmares. I have no desire to see them re-enacted here as well."

>>11314172
"Yes, but while this is merely a nationwide emergency, this weapon could create a worldwide one.

>>11314172
as long as they don't blab it to the nobles tell them more about nukes.

>>11314127

Smile.

"My prince, I understand your enthusiasm, but, this weapon... it is more of a curse than a blessing. It creates devastation wherever it is used, spreading a cloud of poison and sorrow in it's aftermath. The only time it was used in anger on Earth, two cities became rubble within a flash of it's horrible light, leaving charred corpses in the streets, and poisoned ground for decades. It's not something I'd suggest lightly, and I'd preferably take the secret of it's construction to my grave. I don't believe anyone, even myself, is really ready to handle this kind of power."

>>11314205
That's what he's saying, though. The prince is observing that unleashing evil to fight another evil is how we got here, implying that we shouldn't release the evil.
Can you not understand implications unless they're greentexted?

>>11314172
"Indeed. Hence my reservations in using it except as the last of resorts."

rolled 6, 6, 5 = 17

>>11314122
>>11314170
>>11314201
>>11314205
"Some things are best left sealed."

The Prince is of the opinion that it's better to have it and not need it than the other way around. The Lord would rather not risk an even worse catastrophe by trying to solve the present one with horrors. In the long run, it would be better to play it safe. Or safer, as the case may be.

Whatever your thoughts, you have seven months. You might as well explore the 'vision' area before committing yourself to a nuclear response.

>>11314205
>>11314237

This >>11314245

rolled 2, 4, 4 = 10

>>11314237
"Perhaps not. Perhaps that sort of power is best left to the gods." The Lord grimaces at his son's words, but nods.

"Whether men or giants, some things are simply beyond our purpose."

>>11314258
tell the king we're going to explore the area, we'll tell them if anything happens

Guys... you're really blowing nuclear weaponry out of proportion... You'll actually find their use is quite common. Almost pedestrian.

http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/nuclear_weapon_detonations_between_1945__1998

>>11314258
Perhaps we should use our Red Wings? They have built-in anti-scrying fields, which might be useful in trying to get to the area undetected. We can then make the final leg of the journey by foot, using personal anti-scrying charms as well as mundane camouflage.

>>11314331
Oh yeah?
how many nuclear bombs have been used against cities or targets instead of test sites ?

rolled 6, 5, 2 = 13

>>11314309
"I certainly hope you'll tell us if you find anything. I'll make sure my associates don't give you much trouble."

>>11314347
This is fully within your power. Do you want the ornithopters running patrols, and do you want to take one of the VTOLs along?

>>11314364
>>11314331
Not to mention being one of the primary fears of the Cold War (almost 40 years) and a creating the possibility of the complete extinction of the human race within hours.

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS.

NOT ONLY DID YOU WELCOME THE NOBLES TO THE RUINS, BUT YOU TOLD THE KING ABOUT NUKES.

I ONLY REGRET THAT I COULDN'T GET HERE SOONER TO *STOP* YOU. FUCK!

The only way this will end now is war. The country has our knowledge now, and the High Lords are opposed to us. Eventually, it will come down to the interests of Dreamwood vs. the Interests of Perin and the Lords.

The most sure way to protect ourselves, I think, would be satellite warfare. If we can figure out how the city is flying, we can rig similar engines onto smaller platforms, arm them with nukes and other missiles, then send them up. Then, when the Lords threaten us for more technology (when you give a mouse a goddamn cookie), we can threaten them back with nuclear annihilation.

That said, I'm a little disappointed that you didn't require a vote, DM. We've always been split on this issue since thread 1 and now that there's less involvement, of course decisions are going to be swayed.

This quest is going to get a lot harder.

>>11314294

"I will construct the non-essential parts of it myself in the meantime. If it looks like, however, that the anti-magic rockets have failed, we have the materials needed to finish the weapon right here within our borders.

I was actually rather surprised by that fact, to tell you the truth. Several different rare elements could power this thing, but the particular element I found we possessed already isn't supposed to be found in nature."

>>11314387
Yes, bring along the VTOL. We need to know if a non-KM vehicle will be recognized or can be controlled by a Kharok Main AI.

>>11314364
A test site IS a target. Either way, our world has survived over 2000 nuclear weapon detonations. That world won't end if we drop two or three in one place.

I don't understand the problem.
It's a flying city.
We're able to construct lasers.
Flying cities are flying. In midair. Not connected to the ground. Amongst the clouds.
Lasers are used to direct natural lightning strikes by artificially creating a low-energy pathway between thunderhead and target. With a sufficiently low-energy pathway, electrical charges that would have never been sufficient to jump from cloud to target.
Are Frost Giant cities immune to lightning attacks or something? Did I miss that part?

>>11314407
you're an idiot so I'll speak in a language you can understand:

herp derp eek uuk durrr hurp

>>11314407
Yeah, waltz right in and insult everyone in the thread. That'll win ya friends. The fact of the matter is that revealing Kharok was done last Sunday to almost unanimous acceptance. One more vote of no would not have changed the vote in your favor.

rolled 5, 4, 5 = 14

>>11314407
They don't know anything except for the fact that you know of a great and terrible weapon capable of destroying cities. They don't even know the name. In fact, I would be surprised if the nobles themselves didn't assume you were developing superweapons anyway.

There is little point to a vote an on anonymous imageboard. I went with the consensus, as always.

>>11314407
I cannot agree with you more. But it seems that we have been left with participants whose naivete is only matched by their ignorance of human nature or history.

>>11314452
I figure that a civilization advanced enought to create a flying city should have created something against thunders, no ?

rolled 1, 2, 4 = 7

>>11314423
I guess I'll wait on this until a little more time has passed.

>>11314428
As you wish.

>>11314464
Revealing I agreed with. We were up against the wall.

What we didn't need to do was walk in there and give them a tour. Last thread we agreed to obstruct them at every corner. We don't seem to be doing that at all.

And I'm sorry for flying off the handle like that, but telling the king that we have a powerful weapon is just ridiculous.

"We have this superweapon."

"What is it?"

"Not saying lol."

Remember how the High Lords overpowered us? They had agents in broad daylight watching the moves of everyone under our employ. There is no way that word of this isn't going to leak out, and once it does they will turn the screws real hard.

>>11314464
The revealing of the Kharok 5 facility and of the other facilities was done because of pressure from the High Nobles. We could not have successfully won that contest with the resources at our disposal.

The revealing of nuclear weapons, or that we know of the existence and of the necessary procedures to create such a weapon of massive destructive power, is unnecessary. Details should not have been mentioned at all; only that we have a few things we could try.

>>11314523
dude we're like best bros with the king
we saved his sons life when nobody could do anything

Side note? Landspar needs to make these:

http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/train_that_makes_its_own_track

>>11314523
>Remember how the High Lords overpowered us? They had agents in broad daylight watching the moves of everyone under our employ. There is no way that word of this isn't going to leak out, and once it does they will turn the screws real hard.
And what will they find out? That we have something up our sleeves so awful that it terrifies US? And that nobody else knows ANYTHING about it?
Oh no, maybe they'll learn that Maya, the giant magical superbattery of death who made her name slaughtering eldritch abominations and constructing engines of the gods, is a little DANGEROUS!

>>11314547
I'm not afraid of the High Lord trying to screw us, though he might if he believed that it was either us or the kingdom (case in point: our previous spat with the High Nobles).
I simply wouldn't put it past any of the High Nobles to have put some kind of spying device here; either magical or mundane.

>>11314547
Yes, they're our good friends, but when it comes to national security, Perin wins out.

There will be a huge external threat, and the king will beg us to use our weapon. He'll levy any support he can to get us to do so.

And the moment we use it, the moment we split the atom on this world and utterly destroy whatever threat great enough to cause us to build such a weapon, the king and the high lords will know that we have to be controlled and contained, lest we destroy everything they know.

We need to build countermeasures to protect ourselves. I suggest that we secretly begin work on curing the Frost Giant curse, so that we can rebuild their civilization and use it as a fallback point in case human society becomes too dangerous for us.

>>11314585
And how do we prevent them from learning the secrets of nuclear weaponry? By only working on it ourselves? How will we get the materials? Or do any of the testing we would need to do?
Where are we going to do any of this?
And don't forget that they have scrying magic far better than ours.

so you would rather the entire government flip shit when or if we need to unleash a nuclear weapon? At least they wont be completely surprised now. and as long as we control the yield the aftermath is not going to be nearly as bad as some of the drama queens are bitching about.
as for controlling who has it it was discussed b4 that we would develop it so that no single (or even handful) persons could create it.

rolled 5, 6, 1 = 12

>>11314578
Possible with development. It would be much easier if you had access to Erivrus's living forge technology.

>>11314618
I would suggest using K9, in that case. We know that it has the medical technology needed to cure Korus, and the other Frost Giants. The High Nobles would only know that it's another Kharok Facility that we are excavating; no need to tell them about the research hospital aspect.

>>11314618
this and we could just say we have more to defend ourselves with if they get frisky with us.

>>11314658
I would suggest that we build the weapon in secret, deploy it in secret, and use it far, far away from anyone who could use that knowledge against us.

The flying city, for example, is way on out there. We could take a nuke to it and nobody would know about it. We could claim that we overpowered the demon with our own skills.

>>11314639
>How will we get the materials? Or do any of the testing we would need to do?

With the plutonium we got from Matmer and we can test in the vast, unexplored, uninhabited Unclaimed Lands to the north.

>>11314658
The drama was intended to impress upon the listeners the dangers inherent with this weapon.
And as for the aftermath, we would need extensive time testing to get the right yield since we don't have the math needed to calculate it; time that we don't really have, especially if we're the only ones who will be working on it.
And even if we are the only ones who know how to build a nuclear device, that just makes us an incredibly tempting target to eventually mindrip.

>>11314744
We aren't going to need to control the explosion too much. Whatever we use the nuke against, we'll have ourselves and our people far away. I'm sure there will be wiggle room on the specifics.

>>11314705
So we will be doing it ourselves in that Northern Land? Will we have our own personal anti-scrying charm to create a field so that none may see what we do? Will we be alone, or with a team?

>>11314790
>talk about testing before we even have the thing built

Hold yer horse man.

>>11314783
Too small, and it doesn't work. Too much, and it will prematurely initiate.

>>11314801
Building even a test device gives insights into construction methods. Any security that we put up would be worthless if other parties already discovered how we built a test device.

>>11314819
Well, with our magic, who says it even needs to be in a bomb? We could just have several small caches of fuel that we collide together on top of the enemy. Same result.

I see only one solution.

Gentlemen, we must liquidate the aristocracy.

>>11314705
The High Nobles are watching us now. They will want to know why we are buying so many heaters from Matmer. And currently, I don't think they are in a mood to accept whatever reason we give without some digging on their part.

>>11314838
This is true. I suggest that when we build our test devices, we use every security measure we can think of, twice. And we do it way far away from civilization. Probably somewhere in the unclaimed lands to the north.

We could also look through Frost Giant databases. Surely they would have split the atom, with their level of technology?

>>11314848
Using magic instead of explosives to crash the two sub-critical cores together doesn't change the amount of material needed.

>>11314898
No, but it does mean that we can carry it in smaller, safer amounts, and collide any amount of them we feel necessary without having to conduct tests to determine critical mass. We can just toss in an absurd amount of it.

>>11314945
And how do propose to enact the spell to direct the two masses toward each other? Or to even be sure that you have the correct velocity?
And a premature initiation, while still powerful to kill us, might not be enough to penetrate whatever defenses the Ice Demon may have.

>>11314866
We already have several heaters.

But this discussion is pointless. It seems like most people are against using nukes except as a last resort (or maybe I'm just reading the mood of posts wrong) so let's go back to discussing things with the Lord and Prince and try to come up with some other methods that could work. I suggest putting a bit more urgency behind the Dora, since that will hopefully be able to do some damage from a somewhat safe distance.

>>11314985
>We already have several heaters.
With enough material, maybe, for 1 weapon, not including a test device.

Does anyone else find it amusing that they are using a highly radioactive substance to build heaters, and are exposing their population to deadly radiation as well as transforming their cities into hot zones?

>>11314985
I believe the argument centered around our release of information regarding our knowledge of, and the ability to manufacture, a superweapon that is also powerful enough to be known as a superweapon in OUR world. They already knew that our knowledge was extensive and highly advanced; 'if a weapon is powerful enough to be considered a superweapon in Maya's eyes', they think, 'imagine how powerful it would be to THIS world.'
This was knowledge that did not have to be shared, and could have been hidden until far later.

>>11315059
Very This.

Also, if we reveal the extent of our knowledge, we'll have no more tricks to pull out of our bag.

rolled 6, 6, 5 = 17

>>11314985
Dreamwood alone can have superheavy rail artillery within seven months. Probably. If the city is likely to be airborne when it appears, having air-intercept Zeppelins, ornithopters, or comparable craft would be good. The living siege engines provide an opportunity to develop heavy mobile anti-aircraft platforms quickly, since there is next to no chance that you will be able to design and build tanks in the time you have. The main problem with that plan is that, without the assistance of deities, it is actually extraordinarily hard to manufacture them and bind souls to them.

Obviously, defense is also an issue. It is not possible to defend an area as large as Perin against air attack without some degree of technological or magical sophistication. The best that can be done (currently) is broad magical shields, which require either a lot of mages or a substantial amount of magelocks to defend something like a city or town.

What angle are you looking to pursue, specifically?

>>11315059
Yes, but we can not go back in time to change things. Pointing fingers and arguing over it won't get anything done.

>>11314985
For further preparations, we should ask the High Lord to have Erivrus prepared for combat operations. We could use him in conjunction with Dora, but this all assumes that KM and the Ice Demon will be coming to Perin, and come within range of our weaponry.
We should prep the Red Wings, and have scout zeppelins searching the area indicated by Hretmar. The Conclave should take a peek with scrying magic to see if anything is there right now.
If the city is not there, then we should send the Red Wings to Forus and help the Perin military complete the subjugation of Forus so that they can be called upon when the Ice Demon does appear.

rolled 5, 1, 5 = 11

>>11315031
They are incredibly well-shielded, such that the radiation that does escape is supposedly within tolerable levels. However, you have no idea how the plutonium is acquired. Since this is not Earth, and magic is actually rather common, not to mention the gods, elements that would not exist in nature on your own planet might very well exist here.

>>11315104
can we hire more construction workers temporarily ?

>>11315104
FIRST LETS INVESTIGATE THE MARKED PLACE FFS

>>11315108
But it does help us let off steam, and hopefully prevent other such indiscretions in the future.
I would like to have maintained a much more civil berating of our fellow posters, however I can fully understand the frustration felt by my colleagues' less eloquent posts.

>>11315104
I think that an air fleet is not the best investment. If the frost giants made their city fly, it probably has aerial defense that could shred out zeppelins. On the other hand, the Dora can't go anywhere tracks aren't, and we'd only have one. I suppose the best thing to do would be to eschew the extra armaments and for the moment just focus on as big a cannon as we can make, which should speed up development and production. The air companies in the capitol should concentrate on building a Zeppelin fleet of primarily bombers; the zeppelins can reach very, VERY high heights, and should be able to bomb even a flying city. Research into more walking forges acting as mobile AA batteries would be great as well, but since we haven't been spending months researching Enrivus and the Conclave has, I suppose that's something best left to them.

Oh, and maybe getting some of the FG tech from Kharok working to use would be a good idea too.

>>11315176
If requesting a specific course of action, it would help to also indicate a path by which it could be pursued, such as >>11315151 or >>11313979
would be far more conducive to the quest.

Could we ask the king to let us requisition Erivrus to help combat the frost demon?

I mean, It would be like watching a super dreadnought fight a greater daemon. Glorious.

But also, that massive cannon he's got could punch a hole through the city's defenses and let us in.

He could also be rigged to fire grappling hooks instead of crossbow bolts, so that he could slowly hoist himself up to aid us.

That would be so freakin' sweet.

We should link up with the Collage, focus on getting ICE going, making planes, weapons and general offensive tech. While also reverse engineering what FG tech we can.

rolled 6, 1, 2 = 9

>>11315151
Erivrus has already been sent on combat trials against the resistance in Forus. He is under operational security, meaning the public knows only rumors, and he is 'ridden' by a crew of mages and mechanics who assist him, since his forge is intentionally being kept from operating at full. He is capable of self-extension, meaning that, left to his own devices, he could grow to immense proportions while adding numerous weapons emplacements. There is no doubt that he could handle Dora or several comparable weapons if 'upgraded'. At this moment, even a scaled-down version might be difficult to handle. His main cannon was actually more akin to a short-range mortar than anything else, but its many failings can be excused when you consider that the gods had no prior experience with black powder weapons.

Scouts will be sent to search the vision area.

>>11315157
Absolutely. If you're looking to scale up war production, you have a lot of wealth being pumped into other areas not relating to defense. You might also want to consider suspending BLS increases to free up more room in the budget.

>>11315153
Once we return to Dreamwood and K5, we should look through the databases to see if there is any mention of the flight systems used in Kharok Main, or an intact map of the city.

Also, I propose that we maintain the deception concerning K9 and Kharok Main. In a month and a half to 2 month's time, we declare that we have found information in a recently recovered part of the database that leads to K9 and Kharok Main. We can then mount expeditions to them, and get Khorus cured. We need to wait that long anyway for K5 to fabricate us an environmental hazard suit for going into K9.

>>11315296
I'm for suspending increases to the BLS for a while. It was meant originally as a social safety net, not for a way a person could bum through life.

>>11315303

Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and Command will have data on an Armored containment suit variant.

rolled 4, 5, 3 = 12

>>11315223
Very well. Right now, your unguided bombs are inaccurate enough to relegate any Bomber to carpet bombing duty. Rockets are better, but still not great. They can certainly saturate an area, but hitting specific targets, even large ones, is difficult at high altitudes. This will change in the future, but it's something to focus on.

All that is really needed to turn the siege engines into AA is to arm them with appropriate weapons, sighting hardware, etc. The government will have to handle building them, of course, but for the moment, you hold the most advanced weapons in the land.

As noted, it might be possible for the frost demon to use Kharok's systems against any Frost Giant technology you find. Confirm?

>>11315239
If it will help, he'll try to get the military to release him. You'll have to work out the details later.

>>11315285
It shall be done.

>>11315354
Preferably a military-grade full-environmental hardsuit would be nice, but I'd be happy with a security-grade hazardous environment suit.

rolled 4, 4, 2 = 10

>>11315303
>>11315354
You'll sift through the databases upon your return. You might indeed get lucky, but time will be needed for the systems to reconstitute themselves after milennia of damage.

>>11315350
Confirmed.

Timeskip?

>>11315417
I think we need to find out if the KM systems can suborn any FG tech we have, but in case it can't or the frost demon doesn't know that it can, it could give us an immense edge.
So have our joint teams research anything that might be useful in our fight.

>>11315421

HEV you say?

>>11315471
I think the only thing we can suggest to the High Lord for now is to keep the High Nobles from interfering in our affairs too much. We'll have to leave it up to him whether he tells the High Nobles or not about the threat from the Frost Demon (that's why he's the High Lord, after all). We will keep him informed of anything we find related to the Frost Demon's threat.

rolled 3, 5, 5 = 13

>>11315476
Acknowledged.

>>11315417
What, an ENTIRE CITY isn't a big enough target? I suppose if that's the case then yes, might as well put research into accuracy, though I'm personally more in favor of increased destruction; the buildings of Kharok will likely be much harder to destroy than a city at the world's current tech level.

Oh, and wile our people are working on this, there is scrying of the area that Hretmar told us about, right? If not, go investigate.

>>11315471
yes

>>11315504
We need to get a crowbar. Fortunately, we've already got glasses (well, they're really more like sunglasses, but close enough).

>>11315534
You would be surprised at how inaccurate bombing and firing rockets can be without proper sighting and targeting systems.

>>11315471
Do >>11315521 then engage the Time Skip Drive!

rolled 4, 3, 3 = 10

>>11315521
They really should be told, since they are his cabinet, but, since the only source of this ominous deadline is your vision, they would probably be more than skeptical. Keeping military buildup a secret from them would be nearly impossible, though, so something will have to be done. He'll consider it.

The Prince, by the way, wants to visit Dreamwood. The Lord insists that he wait until he's well, be accompanied by security, etc. He's got his heart set on it, as you can tell.

>>11315534
At several thousand feet, even a city is a fairly small target. If there is more than a little wind, your bombs will go off-course, and, depending on where Kharok is at the time, they could land on something very important to Perin.

>>11315296
If we can get him, definitely set Erivrus into upgrade mode.

Less of a fortress walker, and more of a Citadel walker.

Titan Mode, Go!

rolled 2, 2, 6 = 10

>>11315534
Scrying will not be done for a while. Even at that distance, your scouts might get there before the Conclave finds out what there is to see.

I vote we construct this.

>>11315685
What about this?

rolled 6, 4, 6 = 16

You have finally reached the end of the month. The Saladin-class Bomber Frederick is complete and has joined the Red Wings. Two more AMTs have also been completed and were released to military service, leaving eight to be constructed. Working with the agents of the high nobles, you have uncovered still more areas of K5, none of which held anything of note. With as much security as you could manage, you searched the databases for everything you could find that could help you, unfortunately discovering that information on Kharok itself is in short supply. What you did find was the location of an armor bay containing sealed suits, which will soon be excavated, and a rather ingenious little bit of instruction that will give you the ability to set up a 'decoy' processor within the system, which will shut down nearly everything if it receives any commands from Kharok.

Development of artillery and anti-air weapons is proceeding, quicker than you thought. So far, few know the reason for the buildup, and you'd like to keep it that way. The standard BLS increases have been temporarily suspended, prompting questions but no public outcry. Yet. With the Lord's assistance, you are gearing up for offense, but there is no indication he has informed the high nobles yet. The Prince will be ready to come back to Dreamwood, conscious this time, before the end of this month, but it will be difficult for him to walk after so long off his feet.

rolled 2, 3, 2 = 7

>>11315958
Initial scrying of the vision area is complete. There is no sign of the city, or of any anti-scrying fields, only ruins. Your scouts confirm this report, saying that all they can see from the surface is the remains of some towers and the broken skeleton of a perimeter wall, much like that which marked K5, only bigger. Much bigger. If your geologists are correct, the facility there, if it still exists, is something like six times the size of K5. Similar discoveries have been made at the other Kharok satellite bases, though all of those are comparable in size to K5.

Orders?

>>11315628

If the High Nobles get up in arms about us producing shitloads more weaponry than needed, remind them that, per our agreement, any new weapons technology we research will be available for sale.

Now let's get crackin on that big ol Paris gun for Erivrus.

>>11315968
I think it's time to pay a personal visit.

>>11315968

Put these new ruins on the express list for exploration at nearest possible time, right after K9.

rolled 1, 2, 6 = 9

>>11316020
To the unnamed facility or another?

>>11315968
Prepare for our journey to K9 and Kharok Main as planned, so let the knowledge about the sealed suits out for know. Are these suits NBC-sealed?
Afterwards, we should also prepare a trip to the area that Hretmar indicated. It may not be the location where the Frost Demon will reappear; it might be where a weapon system that will be effective against KM's defenses can be found.

Also have we had that Military Demonstration of the Red Wings yet? If not, then we should.

>>11315968
Considering the distance, begin the preparations for setting up a research facility there. When we release the locations of K9 and Kharok Main, we can reason that since they are closer, we will go to them first rather than this farther one.

>>11316119

Oh, yeah. This before we do any further exploration.

rolled 2, 2, 3 = 7

>>11316049
Acknowledged.

>>11316067
They are sealed against biological, chemical, and magical agents, but they do not have very much defense against radiation. A built-in detector is used to avoid dangerous doses.

>>11316119
The military is still not accepting new contracts, and won't until either the Lord or the high nobles get around to undoing that bit of policy. Until they do, you can't do the demonstration.

>>11316051
we should off on this until tomorrow, this will DEFINATELY need a whole thread just to deal with this
Im going to bed anyway so goodnight Subprocessor DM

rolled 6, 5, 1 = 12

>>11316128
Preparing. A base will be established as soon as possible.

>>11316141

Well, in that case, tell them we've recovered the location of K9 from the corrupted archive finally and would like to personally accompany a specially-equipped team to investigate ASAP. Get to work designing a human-size variant for the new containment suits.

>>11316141
can we at least get the lord to fix that policy and end the session with he demonstration?

>>11316051
To the place where Hretmar showed us.

rolled 6, 5, 3 = 14

>>11316166
Goodnight. I could have ended this earlier, but I dislike the feeling that nothing gets done. I'll get you to K9 before this session ends.

>>11316201
that is unless we can continue longer after said event.

>>11316141
Alright then. Make sure that the suits have maintained integrity, and set up that decoy processor, several if possible.

Also, does the High Lord want the Prince's visit to be public or more subdued?

rolled 3, 6, 5 = 14

>>11316194
I should have a consensus on this, since the previous plan was to wait a month or two before revealing K9 or Main.

>>11316201
It would take time for him to get the nobles to undo it. You can go to Kharok Nine right now, without waiting.

>>11316194

This and have everyone armed with our best rifles and sidearms (We'll bring our revolver, out of personal preference, since the stunner pistol we'd picked up is now government property.) also, have one guy equipped with a flamer. You never know when you'll need to burn a bitch.

>>11316194
I think we should give it a little more time, say a week after the Prince's visit.
It doesn't seem like a major difference to us, but any extra time between when we struck the deal, and when we release the information, can help with the deception we're weaving.

rolled 1, 5, 3 = 9

>>11316226
Done and done. Only one decoy processor can be supported, at least as far as you understand this complex system.

He would prefer the visit to be secret, but if the Prince is going to be walking around downtown, that probably won't be possible.

>>11316250
As ordered.

>>11316243

It's better to let them know that we 'just found out', and also explain the need for the containment equipment ("It was a medical research facility, so the very air could be full of magical contaminants")

>>11316300
Which means that we needed to give the self-repair systems time to recover the corrupted databases.
But with the yahoos above rushing into everything, it'll be harder to maintain the deception.
A week or half a month in game time is nothing to us here. We can just skip it; rushing in doesn't get us any advantages.

rolled 3, 3, 4 = 10

Alright, in the interest of expediency: Kharok Nine. Voice your support. Inform the high nobles now or after you've explored it a bit?

>>11316368
If we're going now, then we have to let them know. That was never the issue. The only question was whether to let them know now, or a few weeks later. Either way, we would have wanted to stay in Dreamwood for the Prince's visit.

>>11316300
>>11316335

Alright, alright.

We'll wait until the Prince's visit to reveal.

>>11316368

We'll let them know sometime shortly after the Prince leaves Dreamwood. And then get the expedition team ready.

>>11316402
In case I didn't get my point across: Yes, let the High Nobles know about K9 IF WE'RE GOING NOW. If not, then wait until after the Prince leaves, preferably 2 to 3 weeks, then tell them and mount an expedition.

rolled 5, 6, 6 = 17

>>11316405
>>11316431
>>11316432
Okay then. If it is your intention to wait until after the Prince leaves, then wait you shall. We will proceed to his visit. If you do not specify otherwise, a research base will be set up at the vision site, scouting missions will continue, and the two free yards will keep producing transports and couriers.

>>11316498

Alright, good. We should, though, build ourselves a personal transport for when Constanze gets shipped off with the rest of the Red Wings.

>>11316498
Alternate between couriers, scouts and transports. We want the scouts to be mapping more of the Unclaimed Lands as they can, starting at the Vision Site and moving outwards. Have our Scouts crewed with a field survey team so that they can map out any useful deposits of metals, minerals, and petroleum. Once we have a Frost Giant workforce, this could be very profitable for us.

rolled 1, 4, 6 = 11

>>11316532
Feel free to tell me what design you'd like. Armor, armaments, and even color are up to you. Or you could go with a standard armored transport model.

rolled 4, 1, 4 = 9

>>11316558
As you wish.

>>11316566
I'd like to go with a diplomatic model, for now, but make sure that the engines are top-notch. As for colors and insignia, I'd go with the standard Dreamwood heraldry.
As for weaponry and armoring, I'd prefer it to be hidden or camouflaged. Some light field artillery, and some machine guns that can be pulled in and hidden, but can pop out when in use.

>>11316566

Light armor, forward and rear gun emplacements, but mostly for defense. Stylish interior (but not too much so to conflict with our image among the people.) Made to transport several giants or a lot of humans while still having a decent top speed.

>>11316652
Oh, good point about staying with our image.
Keep it stylish, but a little understated. Not too flashy or extravagant.

>>11316566
Are the zeppelin yards in the city constructing bombers now?

rolled 6, 2, 1 = 9

The Prince looks very uncomfortable on crutches. As one accustomed to leading his men into battle at the very front of the formation, it probably hurts him to be crippled so. But he smiles as he sees you, and shakes your hand gladly, for you are the reason he is not still confined to his bed, waiting to die. You are the only reason he has the chance to walk, run, and ride again. It's a sobering thought.

For an heir to the throne, he certainly seems devoid of all the elitist trappings common to the nobles. As does his father, oddly. The young man approves of your rather modest manor (which, when compared to the terminal, is tiny), and of the style in which you've built the County. Art Deco is quite unlike anything seen in the capital or most major cities, a product of a world this one has never seen. He says it suits you.

rolled 1, 5, 3 = 9

>>11316773
Tours of the schools and lesser sections of R&D go over well. He insists on having a drink in the tavern, which puts him even closer to the common folk, who would never in their lives have imagined they'd be face-to-face with their future monarch. He exchanges a few words about armoring with the blacksmith, plays a brief game of dice with two mechanics and an accountant, and proves that he can stomach Old Terra as well as your own 'heavy weapons' militiaman, Stokes. The sight of a thin blond boy clinking glasses with a man who can lift and carry your own personal artillery is something that'll stick with you for a long while.

At the end of it, the Prince suggests that, if worse comes to worst, you should remember that the high nobles are, at best, petty bureaucrats. They are accustomed to getting their way, since no one has had the guts (or power) to stand up to them in so long. As a self-styled champion of the people, and repository of otherworldly knowledge, you are in a position to flog them with your superior technology and superior morals, and push them into their own coliseum to face the masses. He hopes it goes well for you.

haven't read the latter part of thread, but please lets not give much of a BLS (Basic Living Stipend). I'm just finishing of the Harrington series, and look where that got them. Rather, lets have job openings always available that let people contribute to the society while being available to anyone with a basic education. They'll be able to support a mediocre lifestyle, and they always have the option of applying themselves to get a better job.

rolled 4, 6, 6 = 16

>>11316640
>>11316652
>>11316724
Confirmed. Your personal transport is queued in Lilienthal.

>>11316764
You are in the process of constructing additional yards. It will take a little time to get them up and running.

>>11316773

Laugh, tell jokes, show him the parks, schools, and labs. Ask if he wants to know anything about Earth.

>>11316794
I'd rather just push them into THE coliseum.

If you know what I mean.

>>11316794
"I'm beginning to like this Prince..."

rolled 1, 2, 5 = 8

>>11316839
You do so, gradually showing him the full extent of the County. There's no way he can see every building, but it's good enough. He observes that you've built in a regular way, unlike the sprawling, confused mass ringing most cities.

What he would most like to know is what life was like for the commoner in the land you came from. As a Prince and a resident of such a 'medieval' society, the idea of true democracy is a bit hard to grasp, but the political situation on Earth was more like Perin's than you'd like to admit.

rolled 5, 5, 1 = 11

It's fairly late. Do you want to end by talking more with the Prince, going to K9, or doing something else?

>>11316827
Ah, I thought that some of the companies in the capitol that we'd bought out were making/had made zeppelin construction yards already.

>>11316773
>>11316794
He does know that the muscle atrophy will get better as he walks more and gets back into shape, right? He's not going to be confined to crutches for the rest of his life (I assume).

>>11316794
We should tell him about FDR. It should be pretty inspiring to hear about a guy who as leader brought a whole country out of it's ten year funk while having to deal with being totally unable to use his legs.

>>11316921
"People had more than they knew what to do with. They threw away scraps that could feed whole nations. Everyone had a level of luxury and education. Their government watched out for them as it does here. Advancement was a result of skill and performance, not bloodline. All were equal under the law and the common man could expect a fair trial even against those who were wealthier or smarter than he was."

No need to tell him about the corruption and unfairness that a democracy can bring. It'd still be a huge improvement to feudalism.

>>11316921
"Oh, it varied so much. Much, of course, dependent upon which nation you were born in.
"In some, the people scrounged in the dirt, worse than that of the lowest peasant here. In others, a life of luxury that I can only recreate but a hazy glimpse of here in my county.
"While birth went far in determining a man's position in life, in my nation, a man's own personal hard work, effort, and determination could lead him from poverty to riches. While not perfectly executed, that was the ideal that we attempted to realize. At the very least, except for extreme cases, any person who applied themselves could afford a lifestyle that would be the equivalent of some of the more skilled artisans here."

>>11316973
Let's end it by finishing up the Prince's tour, and then skipping ahead the 2-3 weeks for when we tell the Perin government of our "discovery" of K9 and KM, then preparing to leave for them.

>>11316973
quick question. is there peanut butter and/or jelly in this world?
if not, invent it!

rolled 6, 2, 4 = 12

>>11316980
Yes, he does. And he is doubly thankful that you managed to give him that opportunity as well. It's been brought up by others that magical aid could bring him back more quickly, but he prefers to do it 'the hard way', at least as far as he can. After all, the injury was his fault, since he insisted on charging off to battle all the time.

>>11316990
You do this, telling him of the horrible financial situation, the war, and FDR's admirable leadership throughout. Despite being confined to a wheelchair, the man was extremely capable and, when compared with Churchill and Stalin, a very strong-willed person. Whatever else he was, he could throw down with the best and most ruthless rulers in the world.

>>11317038
"Can such a nation exist? One ruled by men but fair, prosperous, and morally sound?"

Democracy's sounding real good right now. Despite his position, the Prince really doesn't desire the lordship, and would just as soon stay with the military if he wasn't bound to take the throne eventually.

>>11317059
"This is the type of society you're trying to build in Dreamwood, isn't it? Changing things from the inside."

That it is. There have been some speedbumps, some bad ideas, but, by and large, you think that you and your advisers have managed to create something good. You don't know where you'd be without Bem, though.

rolled 1, 1, 3 = 5

>>11317096
Alright then. That will take you into the beginning of month six. The vision's deadline is at the end of the eleventh.

>>11317122
Yes and yes. There are more than a few nuts that can be used to make spreads. However, you are the inventor of the peanut butter and jelly sandwich, if that's any consolation.

>>11317183
"Of course, a nation can only be as sound as the men and women who lead it, and in a nation like mine, as good as the people who compose that nation."

>>11317183

"Almost perfect. We have an allegorical tale on Earth about how the first two humans were cast out of paradise because they ate a fruit forbidden to them. People will, invariably, be people, and unfortunately, some people are just rotten. Some just happen to wear the skin of a good person to hide it."

rolled 4, 3, 6 = 13

>>11317314
"Of course. I only wish we had better components. 'A machine is only as good as its parts', eh? Maybe one day we'll learn how to govern ourselves without messing it all up."

>>11317226
Hmm...not a lot of time. Once we start with exploring K9, we should probably have zeppelins brought up to start building research bases there and in the ruins of KM, then take a zeppelin directly from K9 to the Vision Site.

>>11317348
"Ah, there were many theories of governance from my world. I should tell you about them some time. I hope to help this world avoid the harsh mistakes that mine had to make."

rolled 2, 4, 4 = 10

>>11317333
"That sounds... appropriate."

There are similar tales in Perin and other nations, but, since gods tend to be a great deal more visible here, the situation is a bit different.

>>11317403
"Good luck. We tend to keep making the same mistakes, don't we? If the men of Perin are the same as the men of Earth, you'll have your hands full."

rolled 1, 6, 6 = 13

The Prince thanks you for your time and pledges to repay his debt to you someday. He won't accept any protest, stating that he is well aware of how valuable you are to the nation and, indeed, the world. He has no intention of letting you die (and not come back, at least) with your work unfinished. Someday, his father will shuffle off, and he'll be in charge, provided that a democratic revolution doesn't crop up before then. If the high nobles are still around, he plans to do very interesting things to their assumptions.

After the Prince departs, you get back to business. By the end of the fifth month, you have a new personal transport and two more couriers, two more fast transports have been transferred to the military, and a half-dozen new yards have been readied for bomber production elsewhere. A functioning research base has taken shape beside the unknown ruins, and you are ready, at long last, to search Kharok Nine for the technology that will help you save Korus and your entire race.

With the appropriate deceptive elements, you make a show of discovering the location of K9, advising the high nobles that you're going to take an expedition up there as soon as possible. They have no problem with this, as long as you take some of their people along, and don't mind being accompanied by two of those AMTs you've so graciously provided. Hazard suits are available, and, more importantly, crude, human-size copies have also been built. They aren't quite as good, but with their fabricator-made parts, they're serviceable enough.

We are the end of this session. Tomorrow, you'll head to K9. There will be no session Sunday.

>>11317480
>"Good luck. We tend to keep making the same mistakes, don't we? If the men of Perin are the same as the men of Earth, you'll have your hands full."
"Sometimes, unfortunately, the child must burn their hand before understanding the stove is hot, or cut their finger before learning that the knife is sharp. I can only hope to make the burn not so great, or the cut so deep, until my knowledge is spent."

>>11317559
Thanks SubDM. I'll see you tomorrow.

>>11317559

And so, into hell's mouth we march.

rolled 2, 4, 6 = 12

>>11317565
An admirable goal, which contributes to the elitist view of your naivete.

>>11317592
Thanks for being here. See you.

>>11317559
>>11317641
Thanks as always for the fun session SubProc. Have a good night.