BUMP.

So, the first thing we did was call around to see if we could get any help from any other forces. The Russians supplied two MiG-29K aircraft, one on loan to Scotch, the other Judge purchased, selling his older Fulcrum. They decided they would be our primary air defence, while Hugs and myself would be operating more in an interceptor role. We also called the French, and they told us they would support our operation, since it would also allow them to real-world test some of their systems. One benefit we thought we had initially was the weather, since it sucked, a mild storm, just to make things interesting. Until we realized that our spotting range would be reduced drastically, then we weren't quite so happy about it. Or that landing on the carrier would be a lot riskier. So that wasn't going our way, but we did purchase additional support, getting another Blackflag squadron deployed, the Red Griffons, naval specialists. For this mission, we had two of them in the air in EA-6Bs, to provide us with some protection we hoped.

Holy Shit! Planes and Mercs!

>>11177851

I can't belive I'm -bumping this thread again and nobody else responded.

Can someone tell me what the fuck Planes and Mercs is? The wiki is practically no help, just a bunch of gibberish about airplanes.

Here we go!

And good job calling in favors.

>>11179283

Its OP Again/Baron's briefings and recounting of his groups RPG sessions.

They're mercenary pilots for a PMC air-force in near future world. Its rather awesome.


Its basically Area 88 the RPG in a way.

>>11179332

What system does it use? Or is it completely homebrewed?

>>11179347

It uses the wargame "Airwar C21", with some RPG elements added in by their GM.

>>11179347
Air War C21

>>11179332

Oh boy!

>>11179418

You post that every thread. You should at least make more of those! Variety is the spice of life.


(Ok, I just want to see more)

>>11179418
What game is that from?

>>11179436

I was worried nobody liked them :C

Alright, I'll do some operation linebacker later.

Take note, 50+ bandits, no deaths online.

SHIP EXPLODAN
BUILDING DESTROYAN
GUNNING DOWN CIVVIESAN

WARCRIMES GENERAL THREAD

>>11179456

Wings over vietnam.


Missile failuran
escalate to nuclear waran
Migcapan
Verticalan
Ridan dirtyan

>>11179471
>50+ bandits

Not all at once I hope. Thats a lot of fishbeds.

>>11179502
Purchase link?

Our airborne support arrived on station and I launched along with Hugs, while Scotch and Judge were on ready call on the ship. We decided to set up an orbit about 100nm from the carrier, along the projected line of attack. The Red Griffons launched as well, but stayed inactive for the moment, staying near the carrier. We had done our research but we sill weren't sure what sort of crap would be coming our way. The Ecuador thing had us stumped, although we figured some form of soviet tech would be coming from the other places. Copernicus called out that we had our first target, approaching from the north, a few hundred miles out from the carrier, approaching at a high altitude. Hugs and myself turned and pushed hard to intercept. Then Copernicus called telling us the target was broadcasting a transponder code, although IFF was coming back foe.

>>11179516

Actually I think there is a site that you can do a download + copy purchase.

Google is your friend.

>>11179508

Since February

I usually get about 3-4 migs per flight.

I nearly lost myself to a telephone pole, pic is of me basically doing a dive bomb on a fan song radar + sams.


Fucking spikes.

Going near hanouh is like going into Kharak's missile defense system.

>>11179538

Seems like an obvious distraction to me... Still, its not something that can be ignored, either.

>>11179389

With *A LOT* of work done to beef up the existing airwar rules, too.

Certain weapons Baron&Crew have used don't apprea in the airwar weapons lists at all, no rules for fuel. landing rolls, systems damage (other than, 'fine' or 'destroyed') and so forth.

>>11179557

About the game, is it just the Phantom?

>>11179583

No, there are plenty of other craft.

you can do everything from CAS to escorting B-52's

There are also alot of mods made by real vietnam vets with real historic missions.

Intruders, B-52, Crusader, Super Saber, I recently downloaded a SkyRaider, have yet to put it on.


And if you think Aim-7's are worthless, wait til you see the Atoll.

There is a reason why it only scored 3 kills in the entire vietnam war.

>>11179620

Does it have the F-5?

>>11179538

I don't know why, but I'm getting flashbacks to the strike against Nimitz in Red Storm Rising....

>>11179620

And nice to see it has the Last Gunfighter.

>>11179665

I've downloaded one.

>>11179684

A f-8 will probably be my first fighter when I finally get to play.

alas, I gotta find a DM who's comfortable with the game.

>>11179684

Speaking of Gunfighters, I love me some Wings Over Israel.


I suck horribly at cannon, but my father is a great gunfighter.

We do wild weazel runs in nam to strikes in jordan.

The transponder thing confused us, since it made no sense to increase a radar return. Because of that, we didn't fire as we approached, although Hugs wasn't very comfortable with that. We weren't getting pasted by search radar either, although we were still wary. We managed to spot from a good distance, but noticed running lights. We circled and got a good view. We had chased down a Boeing 767. I pulled up beside and called on the radio, the pilot came back saying they were a scheduled flight, on flightplan. We called Copernicus to get a confirmation on that, and while we waited Hugs moved in behind the airliner. We told the aircraft he'd have to divert, but he wasn't very happy and told us he'd continue on flightplan. I started arguing, telling him where he couldn't fly, but Hugs had a simpler solution. He fired a quick burst of cannon fire in front of the airliner and told the pilot to scram or the next round was going through the tail. The airliner began a turn towards land, and we broke off once we realized they weren't going to break the no fly area. Then Copernicus called with two more targets, in different areas, one heading at the carrier, the other on a track that would violate the airspace.

>>11179703

Awesome.

>>11179713

Yeah, the F-8 looks like a good starter. Though depending on the start date it might be a little too old. Still with a bit of avionics upgrade it might be good.

>>11179732
Haha, nice.

Did somebody say "Wings Over Vietnam?"

It uses the same software engine as "Strike Fighters: Project 1," for which there are still some fairly active online communities of planemakers and modders. Want to fly an A1 Skyraider, or an F9F Panther?

SF:P1 has a fascinating world background/game story of its own, positing a parallel universe in which in the 1950s, the Eisenhower administration sent first military aid then US combat troops to a pro-Western nation in the Middle East called the Kingdom of Dhimar (you could think of it as being somewhere between modern Kuwait and Iran under the Shah in its politics and society) which was being invaded by the Soviet puppet government next door, the soi-disant "Empire of Paran." Fly MIGCAP missions in the F100 with no radar and a pair of AIM9B Sidewinders in 1959, aw yeah. Or close support missions in an A4.

>>11179732

Nice save there. That would've been a bad incident. Why was their IFF coming back hostile? Tampered with?

AirScan are some cold fuckers...

>>11179759
Could just be set to whichever L-nation y'all're at war with, on account of being based there or something.

>>11179759

>Implying BlackFlag hasn't done the same in the past...

>>11179797

That is like intentionally hanging a SHOOT ME sign on yourself and walking near a warzone.

>told the pilot to scram or the next round was going through the tail.

Hugs is my type of fighter pilot.

>>11179806

No, they used airliners flying through areas that were NOT currently a warzone to hide behind. They didn't tamper with them on the ground and change their IFF to look like combat aircraft just to cause a distraction.


The closest they've done is impersonate an airliner.

>>11179811
This same pilot told two armed jets that he was gonna fly where he damn well pleased. Until he realized they were playing hardball. Probably not the brightest bulb.

>>11179858

It doesn't matter, an airline company would never intentionally broadcast an IFF that would get them mistake for a military target near an active warzone (even if it is probably several hundred NM away).

>>11179889
We are talking an african nation, and this war did only just break out

IFF is different then Mode 3 on a transponder these days. Modern IFFs are encrypted. My guess is that Copernicus saw the mode 3 data, but wanted to be sure, and vectored them in.

Not broadcasting IFF, which I think most airliners don't have in the first place, would come back as unknown, or foe on older systems, depending on the software.

>>11179901
That might be it. Always good to defer to the people that actually know these kinds of things.

>>11179842

>The airliner continued on it's flight path, now heading towards Georgia, thanks to the GPS exploit my electronic warfare pod had done on it's autopilot/nav system.

>DLH983 flight diverted and force to land in Tblisi after violating Georgian airspace and being intercepted. Pilots detained by Georgian Intelligence service, plane impounded by Georgian Air Force pending investigation.

>>11179897

Doesn't mean the airliner is from Africa, it could be just passing through.

>>11179901

I'll admit I don't know squat about how IFF and transponders work.

hurr ima plaine

>>11179964

Check it out Fry, I'm flying with my ass!

>>11179922
THE BEST

>>11179922

Never in any severe danger, professional airforces just don't shoot down random off-course aircraft without at least checking them out. Much like Baron's flight did.

>>11179979
>professional airforces just don't shoot down random off-course aircraft without at least checking them out.

*cough*KAL 007*cough*

IM A PLAINNNEEEE

>>11180022

Well, ok, something of a point. But hey, Russians. Anyways, it seems my original assumption was incorrect anyways.

And damnit Baron, give us more. I'm out of airliner pics from A88.

>>11180029
>Royal Navy
>Twin props
>Lines like a mid-50s era jet
>Big-ass sensor/eletronics dome on bottom.

This is what the hell is this?

>>11180090

Probably the UK amidst redscare.

Wouldn't be surprised if it had a role in west berlin.

>>11180101

>The Fairey Gannet was a British carrier-borne anti-submarine warfare and airborne early warning aircraft of the post-Second World War era

Totally called it,

Dem russians man..

>>11179858
I've read all the stories, but dang me, I cannot remember this incident perfectly. What mission was it?

IMA FAIRY GURNIT

OSHI-

>>11180184

oh god, are we starting a meme?

We turned to head to the next one, but there was no way to get to the other one in time, so Judge and Scotch launched as well, turning to intercept. As we began closing on our target, Copernicus called again, saying this time they had a large target group approaching from Liberia, multiple bogies. They were the furthest out, but were coming in quicker then our other two targets. This was quickly going south on us, since we didn't have enough aircraft to cover these vectors. Luckily, we managed to pull close to our target, saw it was another airliner, and got them to get the hell out of there with minimal hassle. Judge and Scotch however had a different problem, since they had turned away from their first target, to head toward the more ominous grouping. The track of their target had changed to head away from the carrier, until they were a good 100 miles from it, but then suddenly lost its transponder and began diving for the sea floor, picking up speed. Within two turns it was past Mach 1, and Copernicus called out that the group of aircraft was building up speed, heading directly at the carrier's position, as was the lone supersonic target.

>>11180289
Group of targets and MULTIPLE airliner 'distractions'. Oh boy.

Scotch and Judge were wildly out of position to intercept, so Hugs and myself hit our burners, while the other two continued on their course towards the multiple targets. We had another call from our AWACS, telling us that they were getting sporadic hits in a certain area, but nothing concrete. Hugs and myself rocketed in without radar, in a head to head with the target. Suddenly, the target blasted with powerful radar, before going silent again, but now angling away from the carrier. We had no clue what was going on, it didn't make sense, the aircraft, clearly an enemy, was turning away hard despite being 170 miles from the carrier. Over on the other side, Judge and Scotch were continuing to be vectored in, when six radar sources illuminated them, still 100 miles from them, but they were not going covert, so in response Judge flipped on his own system. He called us, telling us as Steve was putting down more counters, that there were ten enemy aircraft approaching in a tight grouping, with six radiating. We figured enough was enough, and told the Prowlers to start jamming, no reason to make this fight even more lopsided at this point.

>>11180490
Pfft, 10? Get another squadron and it'll almost be a fair fight.

If you were pic exact.

>>11180490
Jesus christ

Its go time.

>>11180490

170 Miles?

/begins searching for Air-launched anti-ship missiles with that kind of range.

What could the Liberians be fielding?

>>11180609
23 floggers

inb4 everything ends like pic.

>>11180634
A delta-wing? What is that? An old Mirage drone?

>>11180609

The Liberians? I figure its Airscan's mission, isn't it? Thats what this whole gambit was about, drawing their force out since they can't hit the airbase they're using because the fucking UN is still parked there.

Guess we'll find out in a bit, are they F-16s or similar? Or old Soviet castoffs?

>>11180193
naw, it's just a magnificently ungainly-looking plane

>>11180642
no idea, but it just got FUBAR'd

>>11179557

>Fucking spikes. Going near hanouh is like going into Kharak's missile defense system.

Okay, that makes it official. I like you. In fact, I need to get this game so you and I can smoke some Guidelines together. I haven't dropped snake-eyes and tangled in the weeds with MiG-17s since USNF'97. It *calls* to me.

And god knows I need to get away from Aces High for a bit. Watching eight idiots in slow rides chase a P-51B around at 15k for thirty minutes makes my soul weep.

>>11179757

>Want to fly an A1 Skyraider?

YES.

>or an F9F Panther?

YES YES YES

>>11180607

Yeah, I think we know what that money transfer was for, now. A really big, fancy firecracker.

Or perhaps that automagical chicom 'ballistic missile' that can 'totally kill carriers' with a range of eleventy billion miles or some shit.

>>11180771
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-N-22

Judge and I were turning to get a shot at the aircraft turning away, so we flipped on our radars, and spotted two objects still headed towards the carrier, rocketing upwards in speed, already doing 1200 knots. It didn't take us long to realize what we were up against, and we both turned hard to get a shot off at the missiles, I dropped two AMRAAMs and Hugs sent two MICAs, but as we watched the plot, the missiles kept accelerating, and managed to outrun both of our tail end shots. On the other front, Judge and Scotch ripple fired all their AA-10s, sending eight towards four hostiles, when they were suddenly hit by significant jamming. Still, through the mess, they scored two hits, and forced two other aircraft into evasion maneuvers. The formation was splitting up, with some of them descending the others climbing, and one turning around heading back to Liberia. Judge and Scotch began a hard turn, to link back up with us, when two of the pack began accelerating after them, becoming a tail chase situation, and despite their best efforts, Judge and Scotch began to be reeled in by the two targets, closing at phenomenal speed.

>>11180714

Hey Planefag,

going by AngryPhantom call sign lately, yes both the phantom and the sexual act, I'm workin it on both levels.


Stalling into a turn to get behind a mig to fire an aim9 at .3 miles is one and the same in my eyes.

>>11180837
Ahhh shit

This is getting bad.

>>11180874
As if it wasn't before.

>>11180837
Ah fuck. What defenses did the carrier have?

Well op, you wanted to draw out the enemy, you certainly did, but it looks like they brought their A-Game. And are using some really nasty tricks, such as decent time on target, unlike the British mission. Not to mention using missiles instead of iron bombs.

I'm quite impressed, they're even running the strike package properly, with air support and some serious fighter in there, since the F-16 would be evenly matched with a Fulcrum on the speed front. Not to mention jamming, and decent pilots, (sorry you only got two kills for eight launches, but welcome to smart piloting + good ecm/countermeasures) Had they launched from closer in they would have been under more fire, but would have hit more I think.

>>11180837

I hate to be a picky bitch OP and I know you're doing your best.


But I'd really like some dots with names indicating positions, heading, angels, contacts and past flight paths.

We could turn this shit into the history channel if we tried.

>>11180931
I would love to fight the 5:1 enemy group at standoff range, if possible.

>>11180968
Pic slightly more related

>>11180837

Aw shit...

>>11181075
They pushed the wrong button.

>>11181103

God this is gonna suck hard. You've already popped 12 missiles and only gotten two kills. This does not bode well for you. Though I gotta admit at tight gun fight would be a pretty awesome way to go if you had to go.

>>11181103

>>11181132

>>11181160

>>11181168

>>11181177

>>11181188

>>11181137
I think that'd be a pretty sucky way to go, actually. I'd rather die having ejected and firing my sidearm at someone on the way down.

>>11181204

>>11181212

>>11181223

>>11181233

>>11181209
Nah. An awesome gun duel is what i'd prefer. If I died floating downward waving a pistol i'd feel like I was a fly trying to face down a semi trucks windshield.

>>11181188
Shitstorm of missiles. But then they're all sparrows so meh.

>>11181243


Ok, I'll stop now.

pushed the wrong button, hrm?

>>11181243
All the missiles.

We called down to our support to tell them they had a big problem, and the Jean Bart went radar hot, and within ten seconds was pushing heavy SAMs into the air, to take out the inbound strike missiles, which were now travelling at Mach 3.5. The firecontrol linked with our carrier, which also began launching missiles at the high speed targets, as Hugs and I went supersonic to close with Judge and Scotch. Scotch began pumping out flares and chaff as the pursuing aircraft began firing. Four missiles, two at each of them, rocked out. They were launched at 40 miles, and they both spotted them, performing hard turns to win out kinematically. The missiles missed, but the enemy radar still had a lock. Hugs and myself were racing as fast as we could, but Judge and Scotch were annoyed, slamming into break turns, and letting airspeed ripple off. The pursuing enemy didn't have a shot the next turn, roaring past them, as Judge and Scotch turned to try and get a tail end shot. The two enemy fighters pushed up into immelmans, and Scotch called out to us, they were entering into a dogfight with a pair of F-15 Eagles.

disreguard warcrimes, acquire misslelock.

>>11181262

Eagles. A fine choice for aerial soldiers of fortune.

>a pair of F-15 Eagles

>>11181262
>The firecontrol linked with our carrier, which also began launching missiles
How far away is your carrier?! You had aerial refueling for this mission. I thought you'd be far away.
>F-15 Eagles.
WHOOOOO! You're in trouble now!

>>11181334
I think you missed a mission or three.

>>11181334

The question is, will Steve initiate a TPK, or not?

.

>>11181312
Hey buddy. Still alive?

>>11181361
Oh, not at all. Those were challenges. This may be doom.

>>11181365

I would think less of him if he didn't. Still, Baron's group has to have some kind of trick up their sleeve. What did they get form the French?

>>11181399

At the least, the Jean Bart, a Cassard-class AA frigate.

>>11181375
Fucking hell I always read that in his voice.

Oh shit, Planes and Mercs!

>>11181407

Shit, I didn't even think about the name. Figured it was a Moroccan escort for their carrier.

>>11181407
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassard_class_frigate

>>11181399
I'm wondering about the french equipment too. As for a TPK...I wonder what would happen afterward. Restart perhaps?

>>11181428
Whose voice? Someone from an Ace Combat game that isn't 6?

(Newfag to the AC series.)

>>11181451

Restart maybe, but All Good Things...

>>11181464
Yeah, wingman from Ace Combat: Zero.

Judge was closing when his target launched again, sending another two heavy missiles toward him, nose on, and as Scotch turned the corner, his target did the same thing. Judge went into another hard turn, releasing countermeasures, and one of the EA-6Bs forced some more last second jamming on the frequency, ghosting the targets apparently according to Steve. However, this meant Scotch was wide open. He released his countermeasures, but hit the burners as he headed toward the inbound missiles. He told us he was sick and tired of being shot down, and aimed himself at the missile smoke trails just before they burnt out. And then he hammered down on his gun cannon in a long sustained burst. One of the missiles missed, going after the chaff, and the other one flew into the wall of lead Scotch was putting out, and detonated well short of his aircraft. Scotch unfortunately flew through the debris, and suffered minor damage anyway, although nothing of value. Judge looked behind him as the Eagle began a turn towards him. Scotch for his part sent two heat seekers out toward his opponent, forcing him to break, and though both of his missiles missed, he did end up in a tailing position. The first cruise missile also got shot down by the missile storm from our escort and carrier, and Hugs and I continued toward the developing fight, since at this point we were being worse than useless.

>>11181476
Be SILENT! Just because they are Eagles does not mean Planes and Mercs is coming to an end! They've handled worse!

Come on, Baron & team! Pull through!

>>11181497
It's nice that your facing off against competent, maybe even ace pilots. I'm loving this so far!

>>11181503


IDK, man, eagles have a pretty scary Air to air record.

>>11181497

Sctoch SHOT DOWN A MISSILE IN MIDFLIGHT?

Jesus FUCK that is awesome.

>>11181497
That sounds like a d20 19-20 shot to me! Geez, shooting a missile with your gun. Flying towards each other at supersonic speeds. Must've approached Mach 3 relatively.

>>11181536

Scotch is my fucking hero for that.

>>11181539
Ignore the last half of my post. I always confuse who is who in OP's group.

Have this.

>>11181464

Ace Combat Zero, Larry "Solo Wing Pixy" Foulke.

Ace 0 is my favorite

Trailer 1 (Long Trailer): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkbUTWpdvoc

Trailer 2 (Short Trailer): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgGuuh_dY9g


Trailer 3 (Really short one): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBudpqZRmT8

Yeah its not a realistic series, but its fun in a "Turn your brain off, FUCK YEAH! Action movie sense".

>>11181536
We need some art done for that one for sure.

>>11181571
While I still love Hugs for his Flanker choices and ridiculous kill scores, Scotch apparently is a gun ace, this is the second head to head run he's won.

>>11181589
I played Over G Fighters before I grabbed Ace Combat 6. I noticed very early on that AC6 was simply a better GAME. Over G was dull, ugly, and the scripted bits just before save points were annoying as heck.

I love the speeches in Ace Combat, though.

>>11181589
I would so pay money for a tabletop fighter pilot RPG set in Strangereal.

Shooting down a missile?

Thats some action movie/Macross shit right there.

>>11181491

Solo Wing 'Pixy', expy of Zivi Nedivi (he once flew an F-15 after losing an entire wing) He gets teamed up with Cipher (player) in the first mission-

"Awaiting your orders, Cipher- you're Galm One now."

He's actually ded killy, which is a first for Ace Combat wingmen going back to Edge/Slash in #2.

Later you get PJ, who's basically Archer from #5 crossed with the hippy-peace talk of Edge of the same game. Plus he keeps talking about his fiancée... yeah, he doesn't last.

>>11181638

My players next game, running the second version of my homebrew, will most likley be set in the ace combat universe.

I just need to figure out where the FUCK a PMC would fly in that world, post ace combat 6

So who else here is going to find some excuse to sneak Hell's Black Aces into as many campaigns as possible?

>>11181626
What really pisses me off about Over G is the goddamn escort mission where enemies SPAWN above you, no matter how high you climb. Any other game would let me actually fly an escort properly.

>>11181638

This might as well be Strangereal. Just with more realism.

>>11181589
Still have the soundtrack. The spanish guitar bits are fantastic.

>>11181668
That was something like the third or fourth mission, right? Fairly early on?

Freakin' annoying!

The mission after that is when I just gave up on the game and traded it back.

>>11181665

Why post? Do it PRE-1995 Belkan war.

Think, 60s/70s/80s cold war between Yuketobania and Osea. Proxy wars. Skirmishes, all kinds of shit.


Hell, why not an Strangereal version of the Six-Day war? With an Osean-backed Israel-style nation going up against several other nations.

billyidolmoar.jpg

>>11181707
Do you think you could put it online? I have only the theme.
>>11181589
Oh darn you, that first trailer made me want to buy the game.
>>11181661
Shamrock is a buddy, but he also feels like a Star Fox 64 buddy when he cries out "got one!"You're off shooting every foe there is and Slippy calls out I Got One! Oh boy, one!

Anyways.

>>11181707
care to share that soundtrack with us?

>>11181756

I was thinking post simply because of aircraft- I can include basically anything I want to, since, odds are, at some point it exists in the AC timeline. that and I figured, hey, after 6, the etsovakians are probably hurting, the yukes are probably still hurt from their war, osea lost all it's carriers, and it's naval air force is effectively gone, so...

It's just, IDK what country would fit as a suitable 'starting third world hellhole'

Scotch launched two more missiles, but the enemy Eagle was already evading, flares popping, and Judge was back down to just guns. The Eagle began heading back to Liberia, building speed, with Scotch in pursuit. He did notice some light smoke, so he figured he at least got one minor hit on the enemy, and throttled back since the Eagle was clearly outpacing him again. He turned back, heading to protect Judge, who was trying to shake the other Eagle off his tail. Judge tried a turning barrel roll, but the Eagle driver stayed on his tail and sent a single sidewinder towards him, but the roll helped break the lock, as did the counter measure. Scotch fired another gun shot, but missed, on a tough abeam shot. The eagle turned to follow Scotch as he shot across his sights, allowing Judge to pull into a high yo yo, coming in the rear sixty, before rippling off two archers, one of them scoring a hit on the Eagle. The Eagle could have survived the hit, however it was travelling too fast at the time, and the airframe broke up under the stress, spreading pieces of itself through the sky.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=b4mqssze

from /rs/, didn't check it, seemed to have OSTs for the other games too.

>>11181822
>>11181817
I'll see what I can do.

>>11181830

Yeah, Strangereal is surprisingly lacking in small, weak nations.

Everyone seems to be a 1st world nation, if not damn near a super power.

>>11181665

When did AC6 happen?

1995- Ace Combat 5, Belkan War
1998- Ace Combat 2, Eurasian coup-de-tat
2004- Ace Combat 4, Eurasia/ISAF war
2010- Ace Combat 5, Circum-Pacific War
2020- Ace Combat X, Auralian war
2040? 2050?- Ace Combat 3, Corporate wars

>>11181844
Ah thank you very much sir. I'll enjoy listening to that greatly.

>>11181841
Hell yeah! Splash one Eagle!

>>11181860
There's actually quite a few, it's just that we only HEAR about the big superpowers most of the time.

>>11181841

Ouch. crippled airframe and being out near max speed will do that to ya though.

>>11181865

2015 IIRC.

And awesome, scratch one Eagle.

>>11181865
Oh gosh, it says on every mission the precise date.

I KNOW it was past 2010. I think it was in 2012.

>>11181865
I believe between AC04 and AC5 somewhere.

Damn. Wife is dragging me to bed. Catch you all tomorrow.

>>11181901
Or perhaps not. I haven't played AC6 in too long ;_;

>>11181914
Tell her to fuck off, we're talking planes dammit!

Taking down an Eagle, nice :D

>>11181914
>>11181926
Woman!
AAAHM READIN' PLANES AN' MERCS!

Compare to watching football.

>>11181915
>>11181901
>>11181899
From Wikipedia
>Ace Combat 6 follows the fictional war between the Republic of Emmeria and the Federal Republic of Estovakia on the Anean continent, north of Yuktobania. It begins with the invasion of the Emmerian capital, Gracemeria, by the Estovakian Air Force on August 30, 2015

>2015

>>11181952
Without the A-6 help they were all dead. The jamming is probably destroying the eagles BVR capability.

>>11181985

And if I recall the war lasts until late spring, early summer of 2016.

Come on OP, don't leave us hanging :)


BTW, did you get a chance to ask Steve about his progress with typing up the rules?

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>>11182014
Sounds right. Wikipedia doesn't say, and instead of looking around on Google like a smart person, I instead have learned that there is an iPhone Ace Combat game and a PSP Ace Combat game coming out at the end of the year. Quite literally.

>Ace Combat: Joint Assault, or Ace Combat X2: Joint Assault in Japan, is a 2010 3D arcade, combat flight video game developed by Namco and published by Namco Bandai for the PlayStation Portable. It is the second in the series to be released on the PlayStation Portable and the fourth for a portable platform. The game will be released December 31, 2010 in North America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_Combat:_Joint_Assault

However, it does take place in the real world, not the Ace Combat world.

>>11181132

>fire your sparrows and then reverse course

>semi-active homing

>reverse course

>>11182103

If you want fluff on Strangereal, look no further than Electrosphere

http://electrosphere.info/index.php?act=idx

I haven't really been there in a while, but they've got a LOT of information sitting around if you dig.

>>11182155
After impact, of course.

>>11182155

The show is generally pretty decent about that. Nice catch though. Maybe he meant after they hit?

They didn't reverse course anyways. After the BVR exchange it degenerated into a close range brawl.

>>11181841

>actual ACM

Separate image macro for this. This is what arouses me.

Hugs and myself were finally in a range where we could do something, and targeted the inbound aircraft, sending all of our BVR complement out, taking out three of the sea-skimming aircraft. The fourth raced past and I performed an immelman to chase it, heading down into the storm as it began evading. Hugs continued towards Judge and Scotch, who were turning to face the remaining three aircraft, slowing down to a similar speed. I got two sidewinders off, but they both missed in the punshing winds and changing seas state, despite the good look down shot. I saw two flashes just before my final two sidewinders pushed out at the enemy strike craft. I couldn't tell what it was, it had stubby wings and a single tail, twin engine, which my sidewinder connected with, ripping off the aft end of the aircraft a split second before it pitched into a wave and disintegrated. I pulled up, heading back towards the other fight. Scotch was turning, when a rain of BVR missiles arrived, four of which were targeted on him. He tried to evade, but two got through, although only one scored a direct hit. His aircraft went haywire, losing an engine instantly, and all his control surfaces ruined, along with his gun and missile system. He was crippled, but not moving that quickly, holding the aircraft together by grim determination. Judge for his part, evaded one of his missiles, but took the other one proximity, as well as pilot damage as shrapnel went into his cockpit. However, he got some satisfaction, as one of the Falcons lost a rear elevator and engine to his archer. He began a turn towards the next Falcon, but the third was lining up on him already.

>>11182227
>[Scotch] told us he was sick and tired of being shot down
>shot down again

Poor Scotch

>>11182202

Hmm, possible. Or perhaps they were just hoping to force the enemy pilots into a beam defense, then turn around and haul ass home.

Gotta wonder who named the AIM-7, you know? "Hey guys, got at totally bitching name for our new missile. It's scary and shit. Let's call it the SPARROW." Bet you a dollar pilots called it the shitbird.

>>11182227
Uh oh. Also, is Steve just describing everything you see as radar signatures and by what they look like, and letting y'all figure out what the hell is shooting at you?

>>11182285
Air War C21 has two ways of "looking" -- radar, and visual. Radar gives you a contact, a cross-section & IFF to identify targets. Visual is just that -- you look at it and see what it is.

>>11182285

He probably tells them flat out what it is when they get a good look and its something their characters, veteran combat pilots, would be able to recognize. This was a long look at a distant target in shitty weather conditions.

Anyone know what it might'be been from that description? Western Plane most likely.

I almost wonder...
>tubby wings and a single tail, twin engine

Tiger?

>>11182285

Maybe some type of knowledge roll. At least a 5 on a d20 to realize it's a plane.

>as one of the Falcons lost a rear elevator and engine to his archer. He began a turn towards the next Falcon, but the third was lining up on him already.

Also, Scotch... just... slapped down an incoming missile? Like... the Highlander?

>>11182279
"Dodo" is more like it. Or Dud-o.

>>11182321

>Tiger?

Mercenary-tested, Yeager approved!

>>11182329

I AM IMMORTAL, I HAVE INSIDE ME BLOOD OF KINGS!

I have no rival, no man can be my equal!

Take me to the future of your world!

Judge sacrificed his good shot on the lead falcon to look behind him as the other one turned in his seven oclock. And then he pulled the trigger twice. The two archers popped off the hardpoints, airfoils and vectored thrust spinning them 180 degrees, and sending them charging at the pursuing falcon, the massive off boresight targeting and helmet reticule coming nicely into play. The Falcon took it straight to the nose, instantly breaking off pursuit after they exploded (the second archer missing). However, the return fire was no less devastating, as Judge lost huge chunks of airplane, and suffered a violent compressor stall. Judge managed to recover in time, but just barely, and his aircraft was reduced to one engine (since he was stuck in the spin for a bit, it further damaged his aircraft) The Falcon in front of Judge turned to shadow its retreating partner, and Hugs abandoned pursuit to cover the two wounded Fulcrums as they turned slowly to return to the carrier. The Copernicus called, telling us the spotty returns were back, and were now 100 miles from the carrier, still no strong track or lock, just a position. I turned, and Hugs formed up, as the EA-6Bs moved into position on the Fulcrums to shadow them. Hugs lit off his burners, and I did too, heading towards the position the AWACS had told us.

>>11182408
You were/are basically out of missiles, though. What do you have left?

>>11182333
>Or Dud-o.

I play Lock-On online sometimes with voice chat. The AIM-7 is the only weapon with it's own brevity code:

"Fox One!" *three second pause* "FUCK!"

>>11182448

The have cannon.


Plus I think they have some close range missiles left.

>>11182472

Yes. Every other weapons its "Misfire! Misfire!"

Sparrow?

"FUCK!"

>>11182448
>You were/are basically out of missiles, though. What do you have left?

GUNS

We both decided that there was no reason to not broadcast our approach, and we flipped on our radars, pushing power into the storm. We found six slow moving low altitude targets (well, my RIO found six, Hugs only found four). They were exceptionally slow moving, and we made our initial pass, I sent out two sidewinders, which connected (luckily) with a Cessna 208 Caravan, blasting it out of the sky. As we flew past I noted they were all carrying a missile underslung, as they continued towards the carrier, 60 miles out. We rolled around, I sent out a single sidewinder, taking out another one, but then one turned, and sent a missile streaking towards me. My sidewinder blew the airplane to pieces, but the one sent to me landed a direct hit (hard to maneuver near stalling speed) and I lost my fucking radar yet again to battle damage. Hugs blotted the another two, and made a final pass to take out the last one. We climbed, heading back to the carrier, when Copernicus called to us that they had a track, swinging on the outer edge of the radar envelope, heading towards Liberia, the profile matched the strike craft that had launched the cruise missiles. I was out of ammo, and starting to run low on fuel, but Hugs was fine, and agreed to perform an intercept, with nose cold. Copernicus shifted, to provide better coverage, as Judge landed on the carrier successfully.

>>11182527
LOTS OF GUNS

>>11182510

The only thing that causes more profanity is when somebody gets gently tagged by guns. Nobody can ever remember the keyboard shortcut to cancel the voice warnings, heh.

Your massive store of Area 88 macros is awe-inspiring to behold.

>>11182408
Smart pilots, booking out of a fight they aren't winning. Cutting the losses, so far so good.

>>11182576
>lost the radar
FEK.

>>11182576
>Lost the Radar

I'm getting the feeling that you should stock up on those in your inventory op.

>>11182576
>Judge landed on the carrier successfully

Honestly this is nice and impressive, landing a damaged aircraft on a converted carrier in poor weather.


And ANOTHER radar? Sheesh, you've no luck my friend. Still, better the radar then the whole aircraft (and you).

>>11182576
>Cessna 208 Caravan

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

>>11182576
Civilian aircraft, used for supplies. Definitely sounds like an African jury-rig attack craft.
Whatever missile they had underneath, it could fire at and hit a plane. I'd've expected an anti-ship missile.

>>11182649
Most of them probably were, with a couple a2a just in case

>>11182649

Most might've been rigged with Anti-ship, with a few packing a pair of sidewinders.

No applicable A88 pic, so have some Thunderchief.

>>11182576
>and I lost my fucking radar yet again to battle damage.

Naturally, one of the most hideously expensive things on the aircraft. Still, better then taking that front-aspect shot to, say, your cockpit.

>Judge landed safely

Shot all to hell, one engine gone, wounded (so, a screaming whistling hole in his canopy,) landing on a pitching carrier deck in the middle of a storm.

Hell yes.

>I lost my fucking radar yet again

Goddamn but you do manage to burn through them. It'd almost be worth it to start buying replacements in bulk before big missions like this. How many times has this happened again, exactly

Also, Cessnas orked out with missiles? I'm not sure if you guys should be swearing or taking notes. Merc on Merc fights are dirty.

>>11182685
I need to make a folder for all the anime screenshots you trippers keep posting.

what happened to the second cruise missile?

Scotch however, was not as lucky, and crashed onto the deck, surviving only by ejecting before the debris of the aircraft rolled off the side of the boat in the pitching sea. Hugs meanwhile, was closing behind the enemy target, approaching. He realized it was a big aircraft, and was selecting guns when his rwr blared as targeting radiation plastered his plane. The tail of the aircraft lit up and 23mm rounds tore at his Rafale, crippling him. His return fire was effective though, utilizing a long burst to hammer the rear of the aircraft, and allowing him to see the wing set ablaze before breaking off and nursing his wounded craft back to the carrier. I meanwhile, brought my Hornet down, causing damage to the frame but nothing further with a very hard landing. Hugs for his part landed successfully, although he boltered on his first attempt. (I didn't have the fuel to do a go around in the bad weather, so I risked damage to the hornet vs ditching).

Not the best mission, but not a failure either.

>>11182576

For those of you wanting more, heres one.

>>11182744

somewhat related..

>>11182709
Judge had bought "I'm On a Boat!" as a skill when he found out about this series of missions. It's basically naval aviator, and give you a big bonus to landing on carriers.
>>11182730
Shot down by the SAM volleys from they carrier/frigate
>>11182715

>>11182744
Aye. You took out a fair amount of enemies, the carrier's safe, you're all still alive, all that good stuff

>>11182744
Oh no, Scotch...
That plane was just a loan, too. He has a debt now. Terrible.

>>11182744

Well, you got your asses shot off, that's for sure, but you saved the majority of your aircraft, and damaged or downed more expensive/modern enemy fighters.

And you nailed that fucking Bear Bomber, and had a carrier left to land on. A success in anybody's book.

>>11182744

Everyone's alive, and the Vengeance survived, so thats good. Scotch needs ANOTHER new plane, though, and he owes Russia a MiG.

>>11182709
>Still, better then taking that front-aspect shot to, say, your cockpit.

Yeah, that wouldn't be pleasant.

>>11182744
Eagerly awaiting the final kill tally and possible ID of those mystery planes.

>>11182777
>Bear

Bear's don't do Supersonic.

scotch has the worst goddamn luck with planes.

picture kind of related?

>>11182770
>"I'm On a Boat!"

Steve is a god. A GOD.

>>11182770
J>udge had bought "I'm On a Boat!" as a skill when he found out about this series of missions. It's basically naval aviator, and give you a big bonus to landing on carriers.
I demand drawfaggotry of Judge giving a thumbs-up as he lands on the counts-as-carrier while Scotch is chat-bubbled as swearing, ejecting a little behind Judge.
Title: I'M ON A BOAT!

>>11182792
I'm guessing Backfire.

>>11182792

>supersonic

Wha- let me go read that again. It's 3:00 AM in my time zone.

>>11182770
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Can we get a full list of those skills OP? I'm just about to try running a game of this for a few friends and it would be TREMENDOUSLY helpful.

>>11182818
That's not all that Steve modded for Air War 21C.

>>11182807

>backfire

It'd have to be. Can't think of any other supersonic bomber with 23mm stinger(s.)

>>11182839
Of course not, but it'd be SOMEthing.
>>11182806
Underneath the title somewhere:
YOU'RE NOT!

Don't one of the swing-wings have a tail gun positon? Like the Binder

>>11182847

Additionally, it'd take a damn long burst to properly hose down a Bear. Though it's not impossible.

>>11182818
>>11182839
A lot of us have been badgering OP for the rules set. A little while ago I think he said Steve was in the process of typing it up.

>>11182839
Well OP hasn't wanted/been able to give us every modification Steve made, but those would be a stellar boon for me.

>>11182839

Not by far. Steve added skill checks for the carrier ops, I know that (landing and taking off aren't even covered in the airwar rules). He added the pilot abilities, Separated damage tracks (or fleshed out the existing additional damage table), and added weapons, at the very least.

>>11182860

The Tu-22 Backfire does, yeah.

I saw "23mm tail gun" and herped a derp.

>>11182899

He also put in specific rules for acceleration; some planes do it right away, and others take some time to spool up their turbines. That requires a frightening depth of knowledge on a very wide variety of airframes.

This is why Steve awes and scares us.

>>11182860
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-22M

>>11182920

No, acceleration exists under the airwar rules- as the Acc 1/2 values. Steve may have modified it though

>>11182920
Sweet christ. One of the many reasons to fear Steve

>>11182973
>Steve may have modified it though

Yeah, acceleration is in there; Steve added the instant acceleration/spool up time difference for the aircraft.

>>11182905
>>11182967
Also explains the Ukrainian purchase btw

>>11182967

I was thinking more this, but yes.

>>11182995

Ah, ok.

I'm going to present a counter opinion and postulate that Steve is fact not connected to intel, but is a gamer with an obsession over planes and some manner of autism/asperger's.

>>11183041

Who cares.

I don't even care if this is all made up, all I know is it is massively entertaining.

>>11183041
As someone who has both aspergers and a super plane boner, I think it's also quite possible. But really isn't the other scenario all the more cooler to imagine?

Air Kills
Hugs: 1x Sepecat Jaguar, 3x C208 Drone, 1x TU-22 Blinder
Baron: 3x Sepecat Jaguar, 3x C208 Drone
Judge: 2x F-16, F-15, 1x F-16 Damaged
Scotch: 1x AIM-120, 1x F-16
Air Incidentals: None
Ground Kills
None
Ground Incidentals:
None
Damage Taken
Scotch: Destroyed, Ejected
Hugs: Minor, Airframe
Baron: Minor, Radar Catastrophic
Judge: Major, Airframe, Control Surfaces

>>11183041
I prefer the theory that he's a time-traveler from the future of the alternate dimension where all these events actually take place.

>>11183096
Wait. WAAAAIT.

NO COLLATERAL? IS THIS A FIRST?

>>11183096
Hey OP, any chance of getting
>>11182818
before you go?

>>11183096
Jaguars! A good fighter-bomber for a mercenary force.

>Sepecat Jaguar

Not an aircraft I'm familiar with.

>Tu-22

>Sunburn missiles

IN SOVIET RUSSIA, KITCHEN GETS INTO *YOU!*

>>11183115
Well I suppose the falling aircraft bits annoyed a few fish and killed some bacteria.
>>11183124
At least tell us YOUR skills, OP.

For those of you wondering, two Drones had sidewinders, the others all had Penguins.

I have some tables from the game I copied down, I'll post them when I can.

I'm heading to bed, thanks for the patience as always! The Blinder caught us by surprise, we didn't realize how shit unlucky it was to be stuck fighting against planes that go fast, and missiles that go faster. Had we not had the French Frigate, we probably all would have taken a dip in the ocean.

>>11183133
I remember them from an early mission in HAWX. Strike craft, pretty well-updated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepecat_Jaguar

>Air Kills
>Scotch: 1x AIM-120

Fuck yeah that better be on the kill list.

>>11183096

It makes me laugh my ass off that Scotch got an A2A kill credit for the AIM-120.

>Judge: 2x F-16, F-15, 1x F-16 Damaged

Court is in fucking SESSION. Damn. All on his own he made for a damn good exchange rate. All told that puts Airscan's losses at:

3 F-16s
1 F-15
1 Tu-22

and

1 F-16 damaged.

That's a hell of a lot of modern hardware to lose in one sortie.

>>11183185
And they didn't even manage to hit the carrier

>>11183141

you should be ashamed of yourself

>>11183185
No kidding. He almost achieved Ace in a Day, too. Not that he isn't one now.

>>11183185

Add in two lost F-16s last mission, and what were their losses in Georgia?

>>11183198

Oh, hell, and 4 Jaguars, too. Which are NOT non-radar equipped mud-movers only, IIRC.

>>11183115
Well, pissed off airliners is some collateral, and while we hurt the mercs, they still have some good planes, although their ground attack force is probably gone now.

>>11183124
>>11182818
I'll write them up, I promise, and post them on the site, but right now I'm really tired.

My skills are:
Backseat Driver (Rio quality bonus)
He'll fly right by us (Decceleration +2)
Flying Brick (Stall Speed -1 for one turn max)
Made in the USA (+1 Bonus for using US Weaponry/Aircraft to certain checks)

>>11183230

Well, balance that with the Phantom and the Viggen the Aces lost last mission. That puts them at 3 losses versus 11 modern enemy aircraft lost. And the Viggen, the Phantom, and even the Fulcrum are older ships. Their exchange rate has been high, though poor Scotch has borne the brunt of it.

>He'll fly right by us

I approve of Steve's naming choices.

>>11183241

You forgot Burner Bastard, remember? You bought that in like, mission 2.

>>11183133

They're Europes version of the A-10, in that nobody really liked them, then the Gulf War happened and it proved to be a reliable ground-pounder.

It also has Sidewinders mounted on top of the wings, which the pilots refused to fly without since it actually improved it's handling.

>>11183241
Much appreciated, OP.

I''ll keep an eye on the forum.


G'night, OP

>>11183198
Kind of an all or nothing strike by both sides. OPs group won, but I'm guessing all the support they bought cost them a pretty penny and they won't be making as much cash off this run as prior ones.

>>11183241
>Made in the USA

SOmeone archive this.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html

>>11183277
>Sidewinders mounted on top of the wings

Hah, funky. Reminds me of the English Electric Lightning's top-mounted fuel tanks.

The jaguar is unphotogenic. I have only ever found one photo of it that is appealing, and naturally, you can't really see the plane.

Speaking f the Lighting, I'm still surprised it showed up in A88.

And embarrassed I mistook them for Fishbeds on the opening pan of them flying in to land.

>>11183361

Yeesh, my typing is going. I think I need sleep.

Oh hey, I just looked things up and I noticed that "Wings over Vietnam" game supports TrackIR.

I really need to build myself a FreeTrack headset.

Thread archived.

>>11183341
>>11183357
At times I wonder why we don't mount missiles backwards on planes. Picture is of a Tau Barracuda, with gun drones that can swivel 360 deg. on the wings. Kinda related.

The reasons I think of why we do not are:
1) That's a missile that's NOT pointing toward the enemy, which should be in front of you.
2) Psychological effect of a pilot perhaps wanting an enemy in his rear arc so he can fire a missile. Baaaad idea.
3) Engineering and tracking systems need to be designed to get a missile lock off the rear of the jet. The engines make that nearly impossible unless you're looking to kill yourself.


I can dream, though.

>>11183585

Well, I imagine the fact that when it is released from the aircraft, its still inheriting a lot of forward movement from the jet, and now suddenly wants to activate a rocket booster and go REALLY FAST in the other direction is not healthy for it on a variety of levels.

>>11183585

Didn't the Su-37 have that ability, what with the short-range radar/IRST set in the tail pointing backwards?

>>11183508
upvoted!

Judge gets the 118th Tactical seal of approval for managing to fire a fucking seeker BACKWARDS at a pursuing plane and fuck its shit up hard.

And maybe Scotch should be going for a plane that's good at not getting hit next time? Any suggestions guys?

>>11183972
If he can afford it, something with TVC and a thrust-to-weight greater than 1. Oh, and lots of CM.

>>11183972
I don't remember what Scotch is good at. Hard to recommend a plane out of the blue.

>>11184405
>wiki TVC
>operational examples
Oh shit. Erm...
>MiG-35
>Su-37
>F-15MTD
>PAK FA
>F-22
>Su-30MKI

None of those are going to be very easy to get.

>>11184479
Well, Hugs already managed to get his hands on a Su-30MKI, and they're on pretty good terms with the russkies so...

>>11184523
Fuck the MKI, see if they can apologize for losing the MiG and ask for a combat-ready Terminator.

The Su-37 got almost all the way to production before cancellation. Shouldn't be too difficult to bash up a combat-worthy one. And definitely worth it, since I highly doubt anyone on the planet could get a fully functional Su-47 or an F-15MTD with actual weaponry on it.

>>11184560
It did? That's awesome.

>>11184560
Having said that, I'm torn between the MKI's *apparent* high quality and the possibility of just grabbing a proper Terminator (not a Su-30 with bits added on) and jamming it full of Israeli avionics.

>>11184672
Israeli avionics and electronics are pretty jummy

>>11184937
But which would be the better option?

1. Convince the Russians to sell you an Su-37 (maybe one of the aerial acrobatics team's spares?) and then stuff in some (no doubt horrible expensive) Israeli hardware
or
2. But an MKI from India

>>11185220

I'd personally go MKI, that way you have parts commonality with Hugs.

>>11185419
I guess. Although I can't imagine the Su-37 has too many parts the earlier Flankers don't, in terms of the basic airframe at least.

The more I look at it, though, the more the Su-37 appears to be just a TVC version of the Su-27, in all honesty. Though that might make obtaining one from the Russian aerial acrobatics team a bit easier than getting a fully functional MKI with all its state-of-the-art avionics and shit from India.

I don't know. I suppose the best option would be to aim for the MKI and consider buying a Terminator from the Russian air ballet as a secondary option? The biggest problem I can see is whether either plane can do carrier landings.

>>11185622
What would REALLY help is if we could talk to one of the Russian air acrobats, or ask someone from Sukhoi (who would probably lie) about the Su-37's real combat performance capabilities. Not its theoretical performance, but the ACTUAL abilities of the test models that were actually built and are in civilian service right now.

Also some info on the real-life capabilities of the MKI beyond just India saying "it's really really good."

>>11185622
Well, the airframes aren't too different from the -33, so I'm guessing the biggest issue will be landing gear and airframe tolerances...

Aside from that, how about an Su-35, or, seeing as this campaign is supposedly near future, an Su-35BM?

>>11185657
If the campaign is Twenty Minutes Into The Future, I'll tell you exactly what you do.

Go to Sukhoi, tell them you KNOW they "borrowed" some of India's avionics, and that if they don't want their Asian friends pissed at them they'll GIVE you a combat-ready Terminator for a discount.

Damnit, now I want to play some ONLINE AIR COMBAT, but I don't feel like booting up my 360.

Any good airfighting games for the PC?

>>11186001
I've got games for the Fulcrum, the Raptor and the MiG-25. Never played any of them.

I tried Wind Warriors but it just spazzed out on me and wouldn't play properly.

>>11186001
Wings over Vietnam? Just bought it, enjoying it so far.

>>11188145
What are the system requirements if you don't mind me asking?

>>11188189

Its a mid 2000s game (2004 IIRC when I looked it up), so it can't be too bad.

>>11188189
It works on my ancient (2004) machine with no problems or hicups.

>>11182806
Judge with a shit eating grin as well!

>>11188697
FUND IT!

Just got up and finished reading the thread. Way to go Baron! You certainly took a chunk out of AirScan that time.

Hmm...a new plane for Scotch? As I recall he was a multirole or an AtA specialist. Certainly not a mud mover. If he insists on sticking with single engined aircraft as his preference, while still keeping with a carrier capable airframe, i'd say why not go old school and pick up a heavily upgraded Crusader or Skyhawk. They're still pretty capable and I know Israel has some A4Ns, the best skyhawk out there, being retired(or recently retired). And I think everyone here would support a Crusader simply due to the coolness factor.

>>11188806
IIRC the Kiwis have/had some Skyhawks with a modern F-16 radar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_KAHU

>>11188850
I'd be all for that version as well. I was primarily going off of the idea that, if possible, they would pick an aircraft already in C21s archive. Steve though doesn't appear to have a problem with adding stuff in so a Kiwi Skyhawk wouldn't be bad either.

Just to be different: how about a Buccaneer? Spend all your time flying 10m off the deck just because you CAN.

>>11189012
A Bucc would be cool but i'm not sure they can afford a dedicated strike aircraft with only four of them now. Multirole and AtA seem the better choices at the moment. Plus it would depend on what he'd focused his skills on. Is he more AtA than ground attack or the other way around?

>>11189012
I came

Panavia Tornado GR4? Relatively modern, comparatively cheap, up-to-date avionics, and a half-decent chance of actually getting one.

>>11189012
Q: How does a Blackburn Buccaneer take off?
A: It raises it's landing gear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0-xnaRSL6g

>>11189279
Not to mention supersonic NOE flight at below 20 meters...

That thing is so fucking awesome.

>>11189333
Notice how they have to pull up before rolling to turn, so their wings don't take a dip in the drink.

>>11189333
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTPlk70eSLY&feature=related

Check out the Tornado at around 5:40 and beyond

>>11189515
Fucking browser, forgot trip, derp

>>11189333

Nice video.


Something like the Crusader or Skyhawk would be cool, but unlikely.

>>11189515

Thats about as Nap of the Earth as it gets.