forcibly destroy our enemies with the power of portals

>>10995841
FUCK YEAH! Megacorp quest!

>>10995861
>>10995889
Welcome, you two. Anyone else interested?

>>10995922
I am as well. I'm thinking we need to very strongly stake out turf, and push toward becoming a nation-style state in our own right.

>Plasma
What happened to the Endel game? hmm? HMMM?

also: sure why not.

>>10995963
Endel game? I know he ran the original Corp Quest and Slug Quest (both excellent), but what's this?

>>10995963
Reality has been extremely demanding lately and I apologize for forgetting about the Endel game.

>>10995970
It was a game that I was interested in running. I gathered several players, but one of them was particularly irritating and off-putting for me and my recent schedule has put me off it completely.

ANYWAY.

I should really start this.

>>10995970
It was an RP rather than a Quest Thread that he wanted to run, but it never got off. don't mind me.

Year 2165:
Deidre Skye informs you that Umbral research is complete. Gates into the Umbra can now be constructed with a synthetic replica of Garou nervous network that your research department has developed. The energy costs are quite high and it's quite inefficient - but the gates are stable and permanent. Using this technology, you are able to deploy sensors into the Umbra that can detect anything nearby in the Umbra. This allows for the detection of Pentex stealth ships.
Your research department also informs you, quite uncertainly, that based on the amount of research they've done and the funds available, they could begin research on two megaprojects that will take decades to finish. Interstellar travel via portal and a technological singularity. Details are in the research list.
A research list is available. If enough people vote, a new option can be added to the research list. Would you like to view research list?
Your research teams have finished the creation of three AI specimens - two of which are electronical and one of which is biological. All three have been developed on Earth. Would you like to issue commands?
Additional funds have been added to security.
Additional funds have been added to research.
Martian secessionist debates continue without any results at this stage. It's difficult to see what the final outcome of the situation will be at this stage.

Balance: $818b
Income: $837b

>>10996010
Well then, let's do this.

In other news, I want to make a spaceship version of a viking longship and raid other corps. Might not be feasible just yet.

Going to quickly catch up on the last thread, then I'll be back.

I wish to participate, but tragically, sleep beckons.

Can someone archive this with Sup/tg/ when you're done?

>>10996023
View research list.
Get those AIs off of earth; at least 2 of them. We could leave one to help our interests there, but I'm wary of UN intervention.
Of the 2 options, I move for interstellar portal travel.

>>10996035
Sadly, no. Such open warfare is not optional (except against Pentex and only in Alpha Centauri)

>>10996023
View the research list.
Also: Am i allowed to come with suggestions for research?

>>10996023
View the research list.

>>10996085
Yes.
>>10996093
>>10996085
>>10996070
Research List:
- Further Development of Energy Transfer Portals - Allows for increased efficiency.
- Further Development of Modular Starship System - Increase maximum module capacity.
- Further Development of Starship Portal Chassis - Allows for increased efficiency.
- Macro Sapience - Develop an understanding of "world minds" similar to those on Chiron and Pandora and an ability to recreate them.
- Macro Portal Carriers - Adapt portal technology so starships possessing it can be utilized as carriers.
- Military Applications of Portal Technology - Discover possible applications of this technology in space warfare.
- Military Applications of Portal Edges - Discover possible applications of this technology in space warfare.
- The Road to Interstellar Conquest - Initiate FTL (Portal) travel research - works in stages. Requires $500b a year.
- The Road to the Singularity - Initiate research into technological singularitity - works in stages. Requires $500b a year.

What about researching Von Neumann machines that could be repurposed into general manufacturing? Drop a few of them into an empty star system, let them grow until a set number, and then you have a self-building manufacturing site.

>>10996010
Shit, sorry if it was me.

>>10996023
Do we need to keep the gates running whilst the sensors are in the umbra? if so, try and get a few people to make it more efficient. we don't want to get in a mess and then allow Pentex to get the better of us.
View research list
and not yet, no.

technological singularity would be awesome.

I'm late, I missed the last few threads, and probably aren't good enough at this kinda thing to participate. But I have a suggestion to deal with Pandora, if it still stands. What is it's current status?

>>10996023
Move one of the electronic AIs off of Earth. If nothing else, having it in one of our extrasolar holdings would improve response time.

As for the biological AI... is there any way that we can announce, as a PR gesture and so on and so forth, that we're going to try to build a new ecosystem on Pandora from the usable scraps we picked up from the one that Pentex murdered? And secretly, of course, we're going to turn our biological AI into said ecosystem.

>>10996138
Bio-bombed.

Can we see:
a current research list (tech that is already researched)
A to-do research list
a restricted (too high of cost, or just a plain no) research list

>>10996160
This could be pretty cool.

>>10996138
Last year, Pandora was rendered a lifeless sphere of rock. UN has granted mining rights to Weyland-Yutani under a strict set of rules, none of your warships can leave Alpha Centauri and half of them in Alpha Centauri must be guarding Pandora and all Pentex ships in Pandora must be shot on sight.

>>10996121
Macro Sapience and Road to the Singularity. With those two in hand, we don't need much else.

>>10996162
Oh, well that's basically what I was gonna suggest, so we're good!

I'll go back to trying to figure out how this works now, carry on gentlemen.

>>10996023
Put the three AI's in a facility designed with manual overrides and other safety features meant to be used in case one of the AI's goes rogue. Hook the three of them up into a double-redundant system, where major actions are voted upon requiring a 2/3 majority. Self-destruct requires a unaminous vote.

Prepare all Earth shipyards for the construction of colony ships and freighters; destination is Tau Ceti.
For long range plans, 2 warships to be contructed in Sol with destination of Epsilon Eridani after they serve their tour in the UN.

Research the megaproject Interstellar Portals.

>>10996121
I think we should go with the 'The Road to Interstellar Conquest' for mega projects. It's most likely more useful, and when it is done, we will be remembered as THE company which invented FTL (in on form or the other).

Also, I wanted to make a possible suggestion to the research list.
The possible uses of a strong electromagnetic field to defend a ship against attacks and space debris.

These are high on our list

- Macro Sapience - Develop an understanding of "world minds" similar to those on Chiron and Pandora and an ability to recreate them.
- Macro Portal Carriers - Adapt portal technology so starships possessing it can be utilized as carriers.
- Military Applications of Portal Technology - Discover possible applications of this technology in space warfare.
- Military Applications of Portal Edges - Discover possible applications of this technology in space warfare.
- The Road to Interstellar Conquest - Initiate FTL (Portal) travel research - works in stages. Requires $500b a year.

and I mean my list.

>>10996131
This is a good plan, but we need some way to keep them from going rouge. What about programming them to destroy any "mutant" VN's that may arise?

>>10996198
Have we already researched how to use portals for those purposes?

In fact, could we please have a list of what's been researched to date? It would help with some idea of where we're ahead of or behind the curve.

Interstellar Travel.

>>10996219
One thing I forgot to add to this post, downside is it will probably take quite a while for them to get a decent manufacturing capability up and running. How long-term are we willing to get here?

>>10996203
I think we should put Macro-Carriers and military applications of portals higher on our list. Space is becoming increasingly militarized, and we saw what happened to our defenseless colony ship in Epsilon Eridani.
Also, with the military application of portal edges, we could put that on our ships and as long as we don't release the information, we could use it as a defense system on a colony ship without the UN labeling it as a warship.

>>10996231
I already know that. I just thought it was a good idea (though a bit redundant maybe, with the portal thing).

>>10996219
The easiest way to deal with them is just to have an EMP generator nearby. One of the problems with nanoscale replicators is that it's nigh-impossible to harden them against that sort of attack.

Initiating THE ROAD TO INTERSTELLAR CONQUEST megaproject research.

Please choose a STANDARD RESEARCH PROJECT.

Also, regarding the AI:
- Moving one biological unit and one electronical unit to Hermes orbital facility.
- Constructing an orbital facility in Martian orbit to place one electronical unit in.
- Initiating the security measures stated in: >>10996195

Anything else you wish to do this year?

Anything that you feel like constructing?

Anything you wish for your colonies to do?

Remember, anything you do not spend goes to STFU.

Wait, just noticed something from last thread.

I'm changing my vote to Interstellar Portals, and recommending that we take out loans if necessary to speed up the research process. The reason is that group of people offering $27.8t to anyone who can get them offworld. We use our interstellar portals, then pay off the loans with the money we make from shipping the rich people off so they can build Rapture.

>>10996275
actually that is a great idea. defensive capabilities is dissimilar to that of warships. It would be an easy way to get around any kind of block.

And if we get the whole macro-portal carriers, and ftl, well. Every ships now becomes a warship unless we figure out a way to define it as otherwise.

1: ftl
2: portal edges
3: macro-carriers
4: macro-sapience
5: Energy Transfer
6: Military Portal
7: Modular
8: Starship chassis
9: Singularity

That is my vote for what tech we research, at what priority. Low is high priority.

>>10996313
Research Von Neumann machines.

Double our manufacturing facilities on Ares.

>>10996282
Yes, but it would be a massive waste of resources to set it off and destroy -all- of them just to get -one- rouge unit.

I say again, what's wrong with adding to their programming so they'll simply consume any VN machine that isn't like the others?

We have to prevent this motherfucker from happening at all costs. Not just for Humanity's sake, but for the sake of profit loss due to eaten ships, worlds, facilities...

500 into ftl. leaving: 318.
suggestion: fill all construction stations with ships. Then use remaining to expand R&D.

>>10996313
I think we might want to look for some information on Weyland-Yutani. Any dirt we can dig up would be nice, but the main point is just to get a better idea of what they're up to.

-The holographic image adjusts it's Odinson's hammer cufflinks before joining the meeting in progress.-

Good to be back board members of SLINT.

We might be best served by gaining a foothold in far off shores as our fearless archetypes once did across the trackless oceans.

>>10996121

I humbly propose the development of FTL travel at 500billion a year earmarked as "The Road to Interstellar Conquest".

>>10996023

The three AI's we developed were meant to be used in concert. One biological brain acting as a mediator between us and the software-expressed remaining two intelligences.

This means they'd be most effective for our plans as a single unit. for some reason we developed them on Earth and more than likely the big players know of them already. I say we take the hit to PR and make it appear that THIS batch wasn't a a success with their remains being brought to our further holdings outside of Sol.

This being an obvious ploy it would at least flush out those interests most ready to steal the entire intact unit.

Also these AI's having umbral representations would out them at risk anywhere near Pentex.

And uh, what about using Von Neumann Machines for corporate warfare? Not a giant swarm of them, but just a small batch of maybe a hundred or so units deposited into enemy shipyards, designed to find only a certain type of metal, like those in their circuits, wiring, and all that?

Please don't ignore me!

Alright, Plasma, I had an idea which I readied for previous session, sadly I am on another computer and don't have the file I readied just to copy-pasta.


Anyway, it went something like this:
Now that we have AI, we must build them. I propose to build 6 of them:
2 for research (one biological, one technical)
2 for espionage (1 bio, 1 tech)
2 for counter-espionage/security (1 bio, 1 tech)
I also had a different name for each but don't want to dwell on it too long. MIMER and GLaDOS for research. Shodan, Skynet, Icarus, HAL9000 for others (or if people feel to sappy they can choose other, less threatening names)
4 AIs for security and espionage related tasks? YES, I am that paranoid ... and YOU should be too!


Also, give immortality for our Lone Gunmen (I thought we already did that when we had "immortality for VIPs" update.

Also set up espionage department.

>>10996313
Float a contract idea to the Mars Seperatists. We can get them to Tau Ceti, which by all accoun ts seems to be a paradise world. The only considerations are that we are allowed to continue mining operations in the system's asteroid belt, and that we still be allowed to touch down on the planet for emergency repairs and to replenish consumables (water, air, etc.).

Put comm satellites in orbit around Ares, and build up our presence there.
Hermes yards will construct the requisite military ships for the interdiction, and some freighters for the AC-Sol run.

Buy 2 Pandorium engines and fit them on Heavy Freighters to be built on Earth.
Here's my plan: We build them as freighters and then send them to a new habitable system as part of a colonization fleet. Once there, and beyond the UN 's control, we refit them as warships. Warships that now have unlimited range and haven't been used by the UN for the next 6 years, and is already out of the Sol system.

>>10996397
Their programming should already pretty much cover it, in that they're going to have to be defining themselves under some sort of "do not consume" order to prevent them from trying to dismantle each other for raw materials. Anything that changes from the designated baseline falls under that order and is consumed.

It also has the advantage of being literally fail-safe; if that bit of programming goes wrong, the VN machines attack each other first.

>>10996434
Also, why bio and tech for each?

well, I think each has their advantages and disadvantages so thats why I decided to do it like that.

Also, set up AI terminals in our board of directors room so that AI can feel equal or something.

>>10996423
Why don't we research using portal technology for long-distance communication, then having portals link the three AIs together without a need for physical proximity?

>>10996506
Because we already use quantum entanglement FTL comm systems.
These things literally have no lag time. Portals would actually be slower.

>>10996414
Weyland-Yutani is primarly into asteroid mining, gas siphoning and other things. They're the only corporation interested in systems that lack terrestrial planets. As such, they boast a presence in over ten different star systems. They do not sell any forms of unobtainium - but they certainly handle almost all of the solar system's raw materials. They also are the corporation with the most colonists in space, with you in second.

Reading the rest now, sorry.

>>10996450
We don't need warships. All we need are Military Uses of Portal Technology, Military Uses of Portal Edges and Interstellar Portals. Once we have those, we can reach out and touch someone from another star system.

Get Deidre working on terra forming our planet in Tau Ceti!

>>10996313
>>10996450
In addition, start construction of another set of AI's. 3 to be constructed and produced as a triple-redundant system, and used in our R&D.
1 to be constructed, and hardened heavily. This one will work closely with the remaining Lone Gunmen and any espionage department we have.

>>10996529
Then why does physical proximity matter for our AIs in the first place?

>>10996536
We should probably start looking into systems without terrestrial planets ourselves, for resource purposes. Gas giants, ice giants, systems where planets never formed, all have useful stuff in them. Also, learning how to inhabit those sorts of hostile locations would let us utilize the star systems we hold more fully.

-the holographic image rubs its chin and nods in agreement-

>>10996450

Perhaps this could be Operation Longboat?

Our modular design model is common knowledge the UN must be worried that it could be used for such an action. Thankfully your plan keeps our actions out of UN jurisdiction.

>>10996313

Perhaps increase our Pan-Genetic hybridization capabilities to include, hypothetical at this point, silicon based life? This would give us a leg up on any transhuman upgrades and might allow a mechanical AI to enjoy biological sensation directly.

Although the old proverb of "inb4 synthetic species revolution" seems applicable.

>>10996589
I think we're going to want at least one of our Magi setups offworld, just in case.

>>10996620
gas giants, ice giants, planets with lots of magma/lava (resource abundant and accessible) low gravity planets, etc.

Based off of suggestions, moving on to Year 2166.

>>10996620
Phyiscal proximity isn't the issue. It's physical security. Granted, have 3 AIs in different locations would secure against a disaster at one, but it also forces us to spread security assets across three facilities instead of one. It's a question of cost versus security versus disaster recovery.

I do agree with you on the second point. Since we have AI's, perhaps we could set up an automated system of 1 AI overseer and a system full of robot miners? Sent as a 1 package deal on a starship to a given star system.
Complete with our FTL comms and our transhuman research allowing for minds to be transferred, and a couple cloning tubes on the ship, a human presence can be created on-site in case something comes up.

>>10996630
There's an easy way to avoid the synthetic species revolution: don't make them sapient. A bit above dog-level would do nicely for most things, and would allow us to build in a pack structure that defaults to humans as the alphas. If you need something sapient in a synthmorph, go transhuman instead.

>>10996688
Intelligence without personality.

>>10996677
We have portal tech. We're not building three separate facilities in different places, we're building one facility across three different locations. Especially once we have interstellar portals available, and can thus minimize travel times.

Oh, and on that note, another idea once we've got interstellar portals: time travel. Synchronize the temporal locations instead of the spatial ones, especially once you've got portals across light years, and you're golden.

>>10996630
We should perhaps consider granting our AI's corporate citizenship, if they are sentient. This would help to head off any AI uprising, and make our company preferable to a world that would regard the AI as just a program.
We should also consider extending the same considerations to the Aresians.

-the holograph flickers for a moment and resolves itself leaning forward and intent-

>>10996620

I agree with Kichigai Mantis about the AI's communication protocols. However it is not a matter of the AIs' proximity to each other that's the problem. These prototype AIs are on Earth which ,despite being our biggest market, is currently where the rival Mega-Corps reside.

>>10996549

Kichigai Mantis' military expertise is well shown! Weaponized Portal Tech offers incredible utility in our overall plans.

>>10996717
I don't know if that's possible. Assuming that the thing that creates sapience is the inherent randomness of the electrochemical systems that our consciousness is held in, you'd need to duplicate that randomness to get a synthetic intelligence that does more than just following a pre-programmed set of instructions. That randomness, however, all but guarantees that a personality would develop over time.

Better to allow for the personality, and just not make artificial intelligences at human level. They're either physically immobile and much smarter than us, or physically mobile and not as smart.

>>10996735
Yes, under normal circumstances, the '1 facility in 3 places' idea works. But what about if the power fails? Not just simply primary power, but the backup secondaries, and the tertiaries. In the case of a hostile intrusion, wouldn't 1 greater facility be better to secure than 3 separate ones?

>>10996749
We declare that freedom is the right of all sentient beings? I like that idea.

>>10996798
only if you made the systems as redundant as having 3. 3 main powers, 3 backups. triple the budget to produce it. Triple the security team that will be there. Maintain same staffing.

>>10996798
If we can transmit information via quantum entanglement, we should also be able to transmit energy. Use that to ensure that said situation never comes up.

And in the event of that sort of catastrophic power failure, better to have either limited the enemy to one portion of the facility or to have forced them to divide their efforts across three distant areas than to have them able to hit the whole facility at once.

>>10996655
Oh, in addition, can we get an update on the situation on Chiron and how Morgan Industries is doing there? We are a junior partner in that enterprise so it is in our interest to keep an eye on that.

>>10996792
Only problem is when the AI's start wondering what the "real world" is really like.


But what the heck, we're the guys naming our supercomputers after evil pop-culture AIs so we shouldn't care, someone else will have to worry about the inevitable revolution.

Year 2166:
New research initiated.
The Martian Seperatists do not accept your deal for Tau Ceti - they wish for independence for the entire world of Mars. However, a small minority of them - still numbering in the millions - is willing to pay $6b per 1000 by the 2180 date for a new world away from the UN and away from corporations. So, if you build colonyships for them, they'll happily come along.
The Martian situation still remains solid.
Weyland-Yutani, MNU and the UN appear to have entered some sort of deal. Weyland-Yutani have offered their orbital drydock for the MNU to build the largest military vessel feasible - called the "Gargantua" - as a gift for the UN for law enforcement purposes.
Three new AI have been constructed.
Three are on their way to Alpha Centauri.

Balance: $338b
Income: $338b

>>10996871
sabatoge their efforts.

Hmmm... With AIs why limit ourselves to either Biological or Technological when we can combine both for maximum efficiency. For example an AI that is one part Genetic Lifeform and one part Disc Operating System. I see absolutely no downsides to this.
Also, I'm supporting interstellar portals instead of tech singularity, because thus far are business practices are for and by humans, and after the singularity, that might no longer be the case, in which case there would be setbacks.

>>10996871
Why do I get a bad feeling about this "Gargantua"?

Nobody gives a gift for free. Especially not when you are a Megacorp, the gift is a battleship and the reciever are the motherfucking UN.

>>10996870
Part of the problem with AI's wanting to destroy Mankind is that they don't have a stake in maintaining the status quo. We need to find a way that the AI's will want to protect Mankind and work with us, not against us or for a perceived "I know what's best for them" line of thinking.

Putting them in physical avatars and interacting with the physical world might work towards that.

We also might want to keep our Interstellar Portal research under a blanket of utmost secrecy until it's ready to deploy. If the UN or the other hypercorps figure out that we're working on that tech, they'll probably realize the implications of it before we can finish researching it, and this quest will turn into the final stages of a Space Victory attempt in a Civ game. Present them with a fait accompli, and it's too late for them to stop us.

>>10996917
I assume that is the idea behind the 3 in conjunction, 2 tech and 1 bio.

>>10996871
How feasible would it be to outdo them in building fuck huge spaceships?

>>10996818
I approve because we don't want to be the dicks whose greed caused the apocalypse, we want t be the guys that the average citizen will say 'sure they're avaricious and amoral, but at least they're not evil like the other guys'

>>10996871
Use a series of "disasters" in our colony ship construction program to camouflage the hole in our budget from the Interstellar Portal research project. Once we can build stargates, we won't need colony ships anyway, and getting the other corps to assume that we're collapsing on our own and focus on dismantling each other can only be a good thing.

>>10996942
Your next research project enables you to increase the size of your vessels substantially - but not to this level. It takes a significant amount of research to be able to construct vessels of this magnitude.

The Gargantua's specs are available for public observation.

Would you like to see?

>>10996989
affirmative

>>10996937
I guess you're right, though I feel it's a waste to have Aperture Science and AI without having GLaDOS as well.
I mean sure it's incredibly risky, but it's potentially lucrative as well.

>>10996942
Hmm, this made me think. Given that we are good in modular ship building, how feasible would it be after constructing a fuckhueg "assembling station" to let our masses of con-yards on Earth produce the modules that we then send up in space via portals and assemble into a mofo colony ship? With that we might be able to construct a large enough carrier for us to get the Martians away.

>>10996989
Yes. Integrate good ideas into our ships. Look for flaws we can exploit in sabotage.

>>10996942
Combine this anon's idea with mine in >>10996988. We build an XBAWKS HUEG spaceship as cheaply as possible for the sole purpose of using it for our maskirovka.

>>10996871
Begin construction of 4 more TC colony ships for the Mars Separatists that took up our deal. 1 more TC colony ship for our own personnel, and 1 TC Heavy Freighter with space station parts, mining equipment, and anything else our TC colony says they need.

For the Ares and Hermes yards, have them begin churning out crawlers to be sent out to all remaining unexplored systems.
Devote 1 Ares CY to the construction of a conventional stealth technology equipped probe, and send it to Epsilon Eridani. We need to know what MNU is doing there.

>>10996989
Yes, and run it by our techies and see what they can get out of it.

>>10996989
Show us the specs, show us how far they are willing to go in a dick-waving contests!

Begin construction of 8 colony modulized colony ships with hard-points to allow connection to other ships. Situate them to form a cube.
I forgot where I was going with this idea...

>>10996989
Yes.

Also, what's the current time estimate for when we'll finish the Interstellar Portals megaproject?

>>10996871
On a separate note, what's going on with Chiron and MI?

>>10997056
Or at least next "stage", useful thingy that we can use for profit.

>>10997056
Does it matter? I'm pretty sure we're immortal by now.

>>10997048
Maybe you were subconsciously aiming for this...

GARGANTUA:

It looks roughly cylindrical - almost like a basking shark, complete with a "mouth". The "mouth" is a large, empty section at the front of the vessel, approximately 400m deep. They say that this is to contain technology yet to be developed.

Length: 6253m
Radius: 1396m
Interstellar Capability: Epsilon Eridani, 0.75c
Cargo Capacity: 5,000,000 tons.
Cryo Capacity: 200,000 humans.
Living Quarters: 25,000 humans

Weaponry and Armour:
80 Missle Silos (spaced primarily around the back section)
80 Railguns (spaced primarily around the front on turrets, around the "mouth)
The "Disco" System (see previous threads for details on this)

Construction Completion Date: 2185.

>>10996871
What the hell??

Give Lone Gunmen immortality!

They should work even better as they would have direct link into their brain and computers.

>>10997096
Yes, because a lot of our current plans are either predicated on us having FTL systems, or still using STL ships, and we don't know which ones to implement without some kind of estimate for the completion of the project.

>>10997121
Sorry for not seeing that.

THE LONE GUNMEN HAVE ALSO BEEN GRANTED FUNCTIONAL TRANSHUMAN IMMORTALITY.

ALL OF THEM HAVE EXCHANGED THEIR BODIES FOR THE BODIES OF GORGEOUS WOMEN.

EVERYONE IS HAPPY.

>>10997116
Hmm, is it possible for us to aquire a "Disco" system for weapons testing, how good Portal Weapons can penetrate this defense system?

>>10997145
...Well all right then.

1285? we got time.

>>10997078
>>10997096

If we've completed the whole thing by, say, 2178 or so, we can use that tech to get all those people who want to leave by 2180 off-world. If not, we'll have to use more conventional methods.

>>10997145
In that case, create multiple bodies with their consciousnesses in them. Double their work force.

>>10997056
It will take a long, long time.

Their rough estimate is that they will be ready to test instanteous travel via portal over a distance of one light year by 2177.

>>10997173
It has several times been stated that it would take trillions and decades. Now that was only an estimate, but I do not think we should rely on getting it within 12 years.

>>10997116
That thing is constructed in the Sol system right?
Besides, the thing is unfeasibly large.
Why? Let me elaborate.
Let's assume we are the only ones working on FTL right now. When we complete our FTL, I presume that it would be in the form of gigantic portal stations, right?
If so, I doubt any of them would be made large enough for that fuck huge spaceship to fit, which means it would be restricted to sub light speeds.

It would still be pretty damn powerful though.

>>10997173
Remember, Portals still require an embarkation Gate and a Disembarkation Gate. So while the travel between Portals might be instantaneous, getting one end of a Portal to a star system is not.

We'll need to create automated seeder ships to go out and build Portals in new star systems.

>>10997209
one light year?
Crap.
What would it take to decrease that amount of time?

>>10997209
That's to me suprisingly good.

>>10997209
In that case, what we need to start setting up is a chain of stations about .9ly apart to put those portals in once they're developed.

rolled 55 = 55

Deploy Umbra sensors in Alpha Centauri.

We do not want them to surprise us.


Also hackan Pentex (reserve money for cover up)

>>10997217
It would be easy to destroy. Yay portal edges!

rolled 11 = 11

Since you guys keep forgetting we can hackan and slashan I'll do one again.

hack WY (reserve money for cover up)
Oh, and work in conjunction with AIs (also give immortality to Lone Gunmen)

>>10997229
Just use our quantum-entangled comms to transmit detailed blueprints, then build each portal terminus in situ. That won't help for places we haven't been to yet, but would vastly speed up portal construction anywhere we already have quantum comms and a construction facility.

>>10997279
And when that happens, we get our troll-faces on.
"Problem UN?"

>>10997260
Also, fit all warships we own with some.

>>10997297
Oh shit I missed that you already gave them immortality

>ALL OF THEM HAVE EXCHANGED THEIR BODIES FOR THE BODIES OF GORGEOUS WOMEN.

In hindsight, I should have expected that.

>>10997233
They might achieve an earliy breakthrough.

This chance will be achieved if you keep on improving the R&D department as you have. Almost all of your research has been completed far, far earlier than predicted.

Also, their prediction is that researching instantaneous travel via portal over n+1 light years will take 75% of the time than portal travel over n light years took.

In short, if EVERYTHING goes to plan, they predict:
1 LY = Maximum 11 Years Research
2 LY = Maximum 8 Years Research
3 LY = Maximum 6 Years Research
4 LY = Maximum 5 Years Research
5 LY = Maximum 4 Years Research
etc.

If everything goes to plan, at least, it will reach the stage where they have developed interstellar portal technology to the point where it can cover any distance.

>>10997308
what about ship based?
Creates a portal at one point, then an exit 1 ly away.

Question to plasma. Would the stations that create the portals be able to move through the portals they create? do the portals have the same limitations as the ones of smaller size? i.e. 10 minutes only when unsupported by energy?

>>10995841
Did we have a thread last week? I can't find it on suptg.

>>10997308
But that presupposes that our colonies have all of the facilities needed to contruct Portal components, which they currently don't. Even then, we only have a presence in Alpha Centuari and Tau Ceti. Maybe we could build one in AC, since that's our oldest and biggest operation, but I doubt that Tau Ceti has the necessary infrastructure.

>>10997361
No.

There must always be something else generating a portal larger than itself for an object to go through the portal.

>>10997360
So they say that we'll have a gate to AC in 2200?

Well, ok then, I suggest the board increases the funding of this project with 20% (ie, 100bil)

>>10997380
There was no thread last week due to janitorial presence.

>>10997391
can research be done to remove that limitation at a later point in time?

>>10997388
AC already got it. We should be able to make Tau Ceti able to do it soon. No more colonies, so when we settle in the future they bring a gate to assemble.

>>10997408
Let me guess, there was nothing left except touhou, traps and furry porn?

What is the deal with Mars right now?

Why don't we contact all those millions of disgrunted people with trillions of $ on their hands nowhere to spend on and propose they form their own Mars independence party.

Tell them we will support free Mars like giving hefty discounts on portal energy and submolecular knives (that way their industry will prosper much better)


BUT
Make it ABSOLUTELY clear that we will not tolerate ANY kind of illegal protests. Like terrorism, propagandizing fascism, etc

Everything must be lawful. UN laws state that people have right for self determination and they should exercise it.


Besides, terrorism will get them absolutely no where.

>>10997360
How much quicker would it go if we build an AI trio and dedicate it entirely for the use of the R&D department?

Also, do we have sufficiently good brain-uploading and virtual environment tech that we can have the researchers work from a simulspace being run at 10x+ from realtime?

>>10997388

Then perhaps we should start improving our infrastructure in Tau Ceti?

Also, if we want to develop VN machines, the only purpose we put them to is constructing new portal gates at a given location. Once we've got portals up, contained nanofabbers can do anything VN machines can, and with less risk of something going horribly wrong.

>>10997116
Man, they are so obviously just doing that to fuck us over.

Mark my words, there's only one thing they could plan to use that for: us.

Anyway, that aside.

Mars: pic related. Texas, Neptune, the list goes on... they were all great opportunities that in the end turned around and fucked us. This is going to be no different. Our enemies were willing to take an entire planet hostage to get at us, they'd be more than willing to fuel another's exodus.

And on a side note, remember last thread when we got access to the avatar program. Well, I'll save you the trouble of finding out how it works, since it's basically magic: you form a link between two beings based of how compatible their DNA is. Anyway, I was thing that we could use this in conjunction with our neural networks, since there basically living computers, to create more enhanced pilot-machine controls, the downside is that they'd only work for one person. So unless you have a bunch of clones hanging around once the pilots out so's you machine. Anyway, just a though.

>>10997429
Yeah probably (that and some fanwank of some shit author or something).

>>10997419
In a fashion, yes, it's possible.

Also, you are not allowed to use the "Disco" system of the MNU. Just for safety purposes, see?

WY hacking has failed.

Pentex hacking has produced results.
Regent has quit, apparently.

>>10997361
>>10997391

Would it be possible to get around that limitation by physically linking two stations through a portal, then having one station reconfigure itself to be small enough to pass through the portal? Think of having two rings linked to each other by a line, with one ring unfolding itself into a line and then being pulled through the other ring, and you'll have a rough visual approximation of what I'm thinking of.

>>10997459
The deal has been considered and refused.

They're going to try and negotiate a better deal with the UN - if nothing can be achieved, they'll come back to you on the topic.

>>10997524
Like turning a sock with two holes inside out?

>>10997497
>Regent has quit, apparently.
Quit as in 'left the company with a healthy pension'.

Or quit as in he's dead.

Here's a possible idea for a weapon of mass scale. A set of portals folds into each other causing a singularity erupting at the nexus of their meeting. Instant black hole or some shit. I DUNNO, LOL

>>10997524
Another possibility involves onboard replicators that create thousands of substations that go outside, encircle the station and generate a portal to move it to another portal large enough to accomodate the station.

>>10997470
Can we research using the avatar technology to make something like the Tines from A Fire Upon the Deep? We could use that as the basis for our synthlife, especially in fields where we'd need multiple units working in unison.

>>10997535

Man, having two superpowers would really ease things up (I think)
No longer can UN dictate shit

>>10997551
Left the company with a healthy pension.

Apparently they tried to "fire" him in the true Pentex fashion (ripping and tearing) but he couldn't be located.

>>10997549
Kind of, yeah.

>>10997567
Which of those two would be a) more likely to work, b) easier to build, and c) cheaper to build? Whichever has the best combination of those traits would be the one to look into.

>>10997572
Certainly.

>>10997556
Or just port everyone into the nearest star. Problem solved.

>>10997579
Let's see if we can locate him instead.

If he's alive and not working for anyone else, we can hire him for our own use. If he IS working for someone else, we quietly and through an impenetrable screen of intermediaries let Pentex know where to find him.

>>10997601
They'll decide if they go with through with it.

NOW.

Does anyone wish to construct anything with the remaining cash?

Or shall we just move on to 2167?

BUILD MORE AIs!!

Couple for R&D
Couple for espionage

>>10997631
Give me your roll.

rolled 38 = 38

HACK MNU

Cover our tracks with cash if we fail.

>>10997634
AIs, ships, I dunno.
Give it at least to megaproject.

>>10997634
New Directive: all cash that remains for the year goes into R&D.

>>10997602
Let's do that, then. The big thing that would give us, aside from constructing networks of more than two individuals and where multiple bodies can operate at the same time, is the ability to replace dead or missing network nodes with new ones. There would obviously be some change in personality, skills, and to an extent memories, but stream of consciousness would be preserved despite the change in the members of the network.

rolled 99 = 99

>>10997648
Finding Regent

>>10997579
Huh. I was pretty sure that he was no longer human by this point... if he ever was. Does the rest of the board think we should attempt to find him? I'm not sure if he's the type to bear a grudge or not.

Does any one else think that we might want to break up this Megaproject into bit sized chunks?

It's just that we need to stay competitive, and we need new research in order to do that. We can't research two things at once, so that means that for the duration of our megaproject (read: a very long time) we won't be able to do anything.

So maybe after we break that 2 or 3 Ly barrier we should take a break and select a highly important research piece to do, and once we finish that carry on with the megaproject.

>>10997634
Seriously, ho is Morgan doing?

For fucks sake, I think I have asked this question for the last decade or so. Call him up and say whats up at least.

Also, I asked a long time a ago to a quire good land on Chiron for our own colony. Like 1/20 of planet size or something

>>10997677
I guess we found him.

>>10997634
WAIT!

Build a 0.75c crawler to go to that star chrysalis is trying to explore, Leland 12118 or what ever it was, build it in AC.

We might as well put some of those yards to use.

>>10997684

We're researching 3 things at once.

In addition to Megaproject.

>>10997685
We can't just ask him if he wants to go grab a beer.

Chiron isn't claimed by anyone, though suddenly taking a bit of the planet won't make Morgan overjoyed. He's a business man after all, he doesn't like losing potential real estate.

We don't need to though, there are other planets in AC we could colonize, the only thing Planet had going for it was the highly nitric soil.

>>10997116
Shit, something I just thought of regarding this:

Can we compare cost estimates for this project with what we know about the finances of MNU and Weyland-Yutani?

>>10997677
Fuck Yeah!
Nice roll, anon.

>>10997724
No we aren't.

That's our research queue, it's what we're going to be researching.

>>10997689
He defected with a group of Pentex's finest scientists and used his connections to get the fuck out of there. With limited funding, they've got a facility barely orbitting the sun in the furthest reaches of the solar system, beyond even the orbit of Pluto. Their systems - rather poor due to the lack of funding - have been hacked by the Lone Gunmen. Apparently they're focusing on more destructive uses of the Umbra.

Destructive on the planetary level.

Their predictions show that this should be complete by 2198 based on their current under-staff, under-funded research team.

They're also predicted to become bankrupt by 2184.

>>10997766
I bet the dice gods thought this was tau quest, where high rolls are bad.

>>10997760
Hell, it must be costing them a bundle that's for sure.

We'd need a small fleet of Warships, equipped with portal armour, to handle that thing. We should really tone down military production, otherwise they'll just use it as an excuse to destroy us.

But yeah, lets timeskip already.

>>10997789

Maybe they just felt sorry for us after astonishingly bad rolls in past threads.

-the holographic image adjusts its PDA/boarding axe holster and regards the situation-

>>10997579

Regent has managed to leave a known 'demonic' death cult alive and in one piece?

We cannot be sure that he is human and merely living out retirement torturing local ecosystems.

He was responsible for the death of one of the Lone Gunmen/ Data Valkyries perhaps they could track him down liken to the mythic vanguard of Valhalla.

The truly disturbing possibility is that Pentex wasn't "serious" enough about universal entropy and annihilation to keep Regent's attention.

What about this Chrysalis Corporation? Have they had any gasmask encrusted new hires?

A pension suggests Pentix is still delivery funds somewhere, last known Umbral address?

>>10997787
That's...disconcerting.
Are they doing this to get back at Pentex, or was Regent a little more into the whole 'Destroyer Cult' than people were comfortable with?

Either way, I don't like the idea of someone having that kind of tech (that's not us), since we have a lot invested in good ol' Earth.

>>10997787
...So did Pentex decide to fire all the LOL!Evil people and Regent and co are what's left? I mean I am not in favor of destroying planets (so wasteful) so I don't see how that could work for us. ...Kill him?

>>10997787
Keep an eye on them and steal the fuck out of their information. Get as much as we can from them. Possibly fund them as they run out of cash, so as to acquire new research from them.

When they've served their usefulness, destroy them.

>>10997787

So, do we sell him out to Pentex?

Or do we hire him?

>>10997787
Choices in this matter: recruit. Kill. Leave alone. Isolate. feed False data.
I am in favor of kill, as I dont want the Umbra to be that bad.

>>10997787
Either report that shit to the UN, or get in there, Portal commando style.
Regent is clearly so butthurt that he wants to destroy the world.
If we kill him, no one will miss him, since he is operating in total secrecy.

And even if they are doomed to go bankrupt, we should really not be taking any chances with this.

>>10997787
The question is:

Do we turn these mad genocidal maniacs into the UN, watching as our 6, former, prized warships roll in and blow that station to space dust and be the heroes...

Or...

Do we give them the funding they need?

>>10997787
So... what do we do with them?

Bust their shit Kool-aid style? Or maybe hold them for ransom?

rolled 81 = 81

Is Zorg still kicking around?

Try hacking into their systems and see what we find.

>>10997866

Bomb the shit out of them, maybe the UN will remove the restrictions on us.

>>10997760
The costs approximately to $6.4t.

Split between the two factions, that's enough to cause both of them at least a year or two of wallowing in debt.

However, their prediction of income and of outgoing and of profit are all optimistic.

It looks more like the costs are being split four ways.

Hey guys, quick question: What happens if something tries to go through a portal that's too small for it?

>>10997856
The best I think we can get from this is selling him to the UN. Not for money or anything, just "Hay, so you're the only guies in system with warships, you might want to sort this out. No need to thank me."

It will heal a bit of the bad blood between us, which, given 'the gargantuan', probably isn't a bad thing.

>>10997875

>>10997888
Sabotage at about midpoint. If necessary, drop nuclear weaponry on it.

Lets bust their shit, steal all money they have and space them

>>10997901
What happens when a fat person tries to crawl thorough a hole to small for them?

>>10997944
How about if the hole gets smaller midway through?

>>10997944
Aaah. I was wondering if, since it is a sci-fi portal, part of the ship'd go through, and the rest wouldn't. And if so, if we could weaponise that as well.

How is the situation on Ares?

>>10997875
>>10997923
The Zorg are apparently in league with MNU, even if they're out of the arms race.

They're getting 20% of MNU's income and their departments have apparently all turned to R&D and producing prototypes that are given to MNU for refining and for mass production.

They are the fourth faction funding the Gargantua project. The UN is the third.

They are currently developing something called the "Particle Beam".

However, the Lone Gunmen can't decrypt it, so the details are unknown to you.

>>10997965
Already done in industrial applications. Currently researching how to weaponize it with Military Applications: Portal Edges.

>>10997986
Even money the particle beam is to be mounted on the front end of the Gargantua.

>>10997968
Many of the initial children born to the colonists have grown into fine men and women - and new colonists are arriving all of the time.

As for the New People, they are currently quite complacent and lazy. They're happy having dominated the continent of Lacedaemon and for the time being, they're not even building ships to explore beyond the continent. Instead, they're focusing on a deeper understanding of their sciences, especially chemistry.

>>10997986

THAT is exactly why I proposed in another thread to form our own coalition, so that this kind of alliance doesn't just steamroll us.

I wonder if they are making that huge fucking piece of shit to subdue martians and enforce their will?

>>10997986
Greta, new space weapons, and they are all aimed at us.

Right, enough dithering, lets do that probe, continue our current research program until we're finished and then start megaproject.

I vote we take over Regent's little chop-shop and continue research for destructive umbra uses. Only instead of blowing up planets, it'll be for blowing up ships approximately the size of the Gargantua.

Or, more accurately, exactly the size of the Gargantua.

Umm, why have we not stolen the particle beam files?

Even if we can't decrypt them, as long as we can keep them out of Zorg/MNU/UN/WY's hands...

Alright, real quick: Let's decide what to do with Regent.
We have 4 votes for killing him outright.
Anyone for turning him over to the UN, or recruiting him?

OK, HERE IS A PLAN.

Use the systems in Regent's Pluto orbiting research lab as a buffer in hacking into Zorg's systems, trying to get more info on the particle beam.

Hopefully if we get caught in the hacking attempt, it leads them to Regent's group as the fallguys.

Since we succeeded so spectacularly in hacking Regent's systems, I assume we have a dedicated backdoor.

>>10998015
Teach then about how biology is just applied chemistry, and then watch them become master biologists. Well, they''d still fail at ecology but who cares about ecosystems when you can have portals and shit.

>>10998038

Just in case .... you know? Nothing harmful or anything...

>>10998049
We don't profit from just turning up and killing him, that'll make us look bad on the news.

If we turn him into the UN then we get the rep for nearly saving the planet, and on that note I'm saying we should leave him alone till he runs out of money, that way we'll look more awesome.

time skip?

also, future priorities: split from UN.
Eliminate UN
Eliminate Zorg
Eliminate MNU
Eliminate Weyland-Yutani

Or steal assets of each. Appear in United nations building and demand ransom of earth?

many choices here.

>>10998044
They've been backed up in a thousand different places. Almost all research files are. You can't just snatch it away.

However, you have the encrypted copy of research so far.

And yes, everyone seems in favour having Regent ended and the UN knowing about these actions.

Everyone agreed, or are some against this?

>>10998110
Before outright revealing his location, see if we can't frame him for actions of our own. As a fall guy for our next failed hacking attempt.

HACK INTO THE UN SYSTEMS!

>>10998110
Let's end Regent. Let this be our final troll from us to him!

>>10998110
NaH, lets do this >>10998038 instead!

>>10998110
+1 vote for throwing him to the UN.

Make sure we get this to him, somehow, once he's in custody.

>>10998145
Give me your roll, then.

rolled 53 = 53

>>10998173

>>10998110
Dont kill him. Wait on that.
Dont tell the UN either.
Protect him from detection.

And lets build some viruses to wipe their data out. Anything not in public Domain is considered to be eligible for destruction by our virus, unless the file in question is ours.

rolled 15 = 15

>>10998173
rollan for hackan.

rolled 37 = 37

>>10998173
Let's do it!

>>10998110
Do it for Haglund.

"Take him away boys."

>>10998049
Let him keep his little thing going until we get something useful out of it. As soon as we do, kill him.

>>10998107
You are overestimating our capabilities by far. We are a research megacorp that has dabbled in weapons and military applications.

This would be the equivalent of Chrysler suddenly deciding to go up against Lockheed, Pratt-Whitney, Boeing, and General Electric, at the same time seceding from the United States.

>>10998225
Bake him away, Toys.

>>10998183
Why should we do that though? What do we gain from not killing him and destroying his research data? I'm seeing no profits in this course of action.

BUILD MORE RESEARCH AIs
RESEARCH MUST FLOW

-The holographic image holds up its arm in salute and nods slowly-

>>10998110

Regent has already killed a world I strongly suggest to my brother and sister board members of SLINT that we prevent the Umbral fall of Migard.

May the Data Valkyries bring the smoldering rage of the UN's bureaucracy upon this foul offspring of Pentex.

>>10998180
Hacking complete.

Apparently the primary goal of the Gargantua is to absolutely obliterate and crush the Martian rebellion either by intimidation or by nuclear destruction of key management areas on the surface of Mars, do as little damage as possible to the countless factories and terraforming plants on its surface.

Even the particle beam is primarily for intimidation purposes - although yet again, no information on it there.

>>10998294
Give this to Martian leaders discretely. Gain exclusive contract rights for shipping them off planet.

>>10998236
It would occur over time. Succeed from UN. Then we eventually take down each megacorperation, one by one, or at least the ones that dont like us. It may be time for us to start funding our own puppet corporations....

The UN is given detailed information regarding whereabouts and the actions of Regent's cell.

MOVING ON TO YEAR 2167.

>>10998294
Oh shit, maybe we should withdraw our support for them.

What the fuck is wrong with these people? Do they just meet up in a board room, get shitfaced, and take the course of action with the most explosions? Are we really THAT SIMILAR?

>>10998294
WHAT THE FUCK.
FUCK UN. MAN FUCK THEIR SHIT. I THOUGHT BETTER OF THEM.

Should we release that info to martians? They are going to be a bit upset, saying it lightly.

>>10998294
Death Star much?

Hmm, an Epsilon Eridani vessel could reach Tau Ceti right? If we accept the refugees there I suggest constructing orbital shipyards there now (we should do that anyway) and start sneak in legal clauses about armed UN ships not having access.

>>10998312
They'd deny it violently, but if we move now, and sow public doubt before the project is fhinished, then we could severly fuck them.

We'd be mortal enemies from here one out though, but since we already hate MNU and Zorg it would just be another day at the office. Personally though, I'm saying we wait and see if we can find harder proof, something they can't go up against.

You have to realize, this could ruin their public image, the UN especially.

>>10998313
Trying to create our own nation isn't as simple as you make it out to seem. Especially as we don't necessarily know the loyalties of all of our employees. And if we do secede, I foresee us (the Board) being assassinated by STFU Black Ops before anyone else getting to us.

>>10998294
Release data to general public after release to martian government. Aks for funding to prevent this, or for their help in shipping their people off planet. Specifically monitary help.

Then keep our word, and take them to somewhere within 1 ly or 2 if we have that capability.

Also, we should build our portal shield for mars. A major STFU to Earth.

Begin sending shitloads of resources to Tau Ceti. Begin immediate construction of orbiting defense satellites and warships.

>>10998357
If we wanted to get a substantial amount of those Martians out soon then I suggest we construct colony vessels in AC as well, and then ship them here. There's really no other way to finish in time.

Plasma, what's the ETA on the gargantuan being fhinished?

Gah, part of me wants to say we get our VIKINGS IN SUITS and make an angry, impassioned speech to the UN about how they are being enormous douchebags and are betraying their roots. I mean, as that guy said earlier, the UN says that everyone has the right to self-determination.

Another part just wants to wreck their shit.

>>10998343
If they're obstinate enough to fight for secession, they're going to be stubborn enough and stupid enough to actually continue to attempt fighting. Terrorist attacks on critical corporate assets, attempts to assassinate key UN officials...It just makes me want to kill them first.

Heck, why not anonymously leak the info to Earth too? UN might be colossal dicks but general population will not be like that.

Of course, whatever we do MAKE SURE THEY CAN'T TRACE IT BACK TO US!

If we leak what we've found out about the Gargantua, how about we conceal the fact that Weyland-Yutani is involved beyond just renting out their shipyard?

Then, we quietly visit Weyland-Yutani and see if we can work out a repayment plan for that favor.

>>10998372
>>10998343
>>10998312
Hold on, hold on...

If we're going to release this data, lets at least do it anonymously.

But I still don't support this.

>>10998400
It's supposed to be finished by 2185...

>>10998404
Well we're here for profits first, wrecking shit second.

If only we could combine the two...

Also, we've got a big incentive to weaponize our portal tech.

>>10998372
You dumb shit, there's nothing in the ranges that you specified. And our portal shielding technology can't be used for a planetary shield; it doesn't work that way! You dumb fuck.

>>10998451
Well, there's the open void of interstellar space.

However, while the thought of taking their money and then spacing them all is tempting, the PR backlash would be nightmarish.

>>10998444
Alright, how about we build up a case first and release the info when they are halfway done. That way they all lose!
If we release the info now then they have barely spend any money.

Year 2167:
Crawler 9 is on its way.
You have increased the funding your R&D department.
You have increased the funding of your security department.
Regent's space station has been dismantled and his cell taken into custody. His fate is unknown. You are thanked for your actions against him by the UN. They had been searching for the terrorist for a while since he quit.
The Martian Seperatists have been informed and political tension is suddenly shooting up. Someone cracked and rumours are everywhere. Millions who were one proud individuals willing to become independent from the corporations and UN are suddenly desperately moving anywhere, everywhere, even back to Earth, just not Mars. Millions more are remaining on Mars defiantly, despite everything. Chaos is everywhere.
Several thousand individuals, however, who do know about the information you gave in detail, wish to accept your offer.
Approximately 8000 are offering a large payment $560b in order to be taken off of Mars. All they desire is freedom from the UN. They're willing to work for you, they just don't want anyone else infleuncing them. You seem decent enough for handing over this information after all.

Balance: $241b
Income: $241b

>>10998501
Forgot image.

>>10998451
Oh it would work, it's only a smart material which forms a portal at the point of impact and then lets the projectile fly off somewhere else.

You know what else would work though, 16 mile of solid diamond armour around Mars. The best part? The diamond armour would be cheaper, since portal armour costs 100 bil PER SHIP. An entire planets worth, all else aside, would be more money that exists.

rolled 39 = 39

>>10998501
Build ships and haul people I guess

Also. Hackan WY again (money for cover up, etc)

What have we been using our AI for again? Have we considered allocating some of them to enhance R&D?

>>10998501
Send the 8000 to our Tau Ceti site.
Our Alpha Centuari holdings are under too much scrutiny right now; better to use our Tau Ceti system as a jump-off point for further expansion.

>>10998501
I hope we deposited that information anonymously at lest.

Anyway, I assume our current colony ships will be enough to get them to AC or TC, so let's just say we're sticking with our current plans regardless. Because we're stubborn, they'll buy that.

rolled 30 = 30

>>10998532
Ah man, these guys have good protection.

Hack MNU for stealing tech

>>10998501
Wait, where did our income go, weren't we making money before?

>>10998543
Take them to Tau Ceti, yeah.

>>10998516
Requesting update and system information from our crawlers.

>>10998549
You didn't deposit it. Someone else did. The individual you told squealed and told someone who told someone who told EVERYONE.
>>10998532
Give me your roll.

Do our Tau Ceti holding have any defences?
I think we have any warships there, right?

Lets build send modular freighters there which will become warships after few LY travel

>>10998543
I agree with the AC part, but I'm worried about TC being attacked by MNU, since they're only 5.5 light years apart.

If we put them there, we'll need to ramp up security pretty quickly.

rolled 13 = 13

>>10998573
rolling for hack

rolled 93 = 93

>>10998573

>>10998600
FUCK MY SHIT! Someone else roll! quickly! Otherwise we might have to spend a lot on cover up!

>>10998501
If we haven't done it yet, start building AI Triads + Portal Construction Facilities in our holdings at Alpha Centauri and Tau Ceti.

Also, start working on the avatar project modifications that I mentioned. Preferably, we want to be able to make it work with already-living humans (probably via an implant of some sort) as well as with synthlife we design.

Is there any way for us to market AI? Not the good ones of course but just semi-sentient programs or what not. Also, I wonder if there's a way for us to sell our Energy Portals to Mars?

>>10998599
Does MNU have FTL tech, or anything that might lead to it in the next few decades? If not, we've got at least five years of warning about any assault they launch.

>>10998591
'Fraid we can't retrofit them mid transit, need a construction yard for that.

We don't have any in TC, so we will need a freighter to bring construction and orbital portal facilities to set those up.

How about if we construct an AI whose sole purpose is to fuck out enemy's computer systems up? Release it into their systems and it causes havok. An advanced computer virus.

>>10998573
Thats why we told you to do it anonymously!

>>10998501
What's our current research look like?

>>10998642
Does the term "blowback" mean anything to you?

Also, we're only about 30 posts from autosage.

>>10998501
>They're willing to work for you

Gentlemen, I bring you the future colonists of our Aresian empire. Basically use these people as the first wave of colonists to Ares. We provide them all the materials they need to create their own cities. Essentially we ship masses of people to Ares and provide for them a way to create a new life and in return all we ask is that they are supportive of us.

Once people see that the Ares colonies are flourishing, more people will be willing to take up the contract of immigrating to our beloved planet.

>>10998635
That assumes that they haven't already sent a warship.

But yes, we need to build construction yards and defense ships in Tau Ceti. Activate all remaining Earth Construction Yards. They are to construct colony ships (for the Mars colonists) and Heavy Freighters to send factory and space station parts to Tau Ceti.

We can't be having the Ariesians becoming complacent, we've already invested in their success with promising results. Perhaps we should initiate a challenge/reward system? Like we give them an advanced piece of technology and reward them when they can figure out how it works and adapt it?

>>10998689
The reward is another piece of technology.

>>10998671
Fucking Hell No!
Ares is in Alpha Centuari, spitting distance of UN warships equipped with Pandorium drives! There's already a sizable megacorporate presence from our competitors, and it's easy enough for the UN to peek in and take a look! Besides, Ares already has a native population, and the last thing we want is friction between the colonists and the natives.
So fuck no, not Alpha Centuari, not Ares.

>>10998635
Not that we know of, Pentex is the only other corp which 'could' develop FTL, thanks to the umbra.

>>10998613
Our Solar Arrays provide energy through out the system.

>>10998611
AIs cost billions to make, what are we supposed to do with all of them? I guess they could help with research, or management, but there's no need to produce them indiscriminately.

>>10998671
Except Ares already has sentient inhabitants, who I personally value a lot more than a bunch of rich humans.

>>10998689
Didn't we create a form of hybrid between our two species so we can communicate? Why can't we hire people to directly teach them instead of giving them stuff and hoping they figure it out.

We can jumpstart their technological progress if we directly teach them how things work and take a much stronger active role in progressing their species.

Is there any way to determine how far along other corporations have gone with regards to AI?

>>10998591
No defenses. No factories. Tau Ceti is a bare bones colony.
>>10998613
You haven't revealed these advanced AI yet. They haven't been developed so if you do show them off, they'll be something completely new.
>>10998600
It's a force hack, where it's quite blatant and obvious and you have to pay a lot of people to make sure that the wrong ears don't hear about it...
>>10998607
... But you get results.
They have approximately 28,000 people living beyond the solar system in mining colonies and space stations.
They've apparently discovered 3 sorts of unobtainium that rather than marketing, they're using in their own equipment and purposes.
They're very, very self-sufficient and they haven't made a deal with anyone else until the Death of Pandora in 2164.

>>10998724
Nigga please, we would try to integrate the Aresians into society to be our equals, not enslave them.

>>10998719
Can we hack Pentex and see if they have made any developments in that regard?

>>10998716
I agree with this, but TC is right within tange of Epsilon Eridani and its MNU fleet.

If we go there, we better expect a battle.

>>10998719
We're putting at least one AI triad on research. The others are pretty much being built for redundancy purposes; if something goes badly wrong with our operations on Earth, we'll have a secondary corporate HQ ready to go.

We're also assigning them to whatever other tasks need doing, of course.

-the holographic image appears concerned about something off screen but returns attention to the meeting-

>>10998671

While the Aresian's are currently lazy and inward focused all it takes is one charismatic leader to propel them into global expansion.

Perhaps hybrid colonists aiding our loyal Aresian's in gaining territory on the planet? Could build loyalty and a sense of identity.

Also possible backlash by colonists unfamiliar with our carbon-based life form hybrid body tech.

We should screen or gradually acclimate the incoming colonists to see if this will be a problem.

>>10998760
Hmmm...

lets take their expertise and adapt self-sufficiency ourself. We were aiming for that but its better just to take what works rather than using trial and error

We should make a dedicated hacking AI.

Plasma, if we put shitloads of money and research into hacking, including having our AIs help, could we get bonuses to our hacking rolls? Like, 1d100 + 20 or something?

>>10998768
Ares is fucked. Instead we will just uplift them from the planet. Once they are advanced enough by our standards then we will directly integrate them into our operations, yet we won't turn Ares into our homeworld, just a base of operations for the system.

We left Earth, they can leave Ares.

>>10998829
And we'll focus on building up Tau Ceti as our new Homeworld.

POINT: Rename our Tau Ceti planet Valhalla; internally at least.

>>10998760
If it weren't for this Mars shit I'd be pretty inclined to trust them, but as it is, they look like they're up to something.

OK then. So do we want to start building freighters for TC or not? Cos the sooner we start the sooner we'll finish, and time is of the essence here.

>>10998778
Part of it is that we want the Mars colonists far enough away that the UN no longer considers them a threat and it's too expensive to beat them up.
If the colonists are sent to Alpha Centuari, then W-Y already has a sizable presence there, along with Morgan Industries, and the UN might be tempted to pay either of those two to mess with the remaining Mars colonists.
Morgan Industries might be our ally now, but it's only because we own a share of their stock, and we saved Morgan. And Morgan, after all, is a supreme businessman.

>>10998819
Actually, you already have espionage AI. I'm stupid for not counting the bonuses. Sorry.

Also:
Creating more hybrids to try and educate the Aresians.

Sadly, their culture is quite Taoist and refuses to advance. They categorize and do everything in their power to understand how the universe functions and how technology works - but they never truly put their knowledge into practice.

They currently possess everything they need to make their society go nuclear, yet they still live in the dark ages - and quite happily, as well.

>>10998857
We've already got most of our Earth Yards working on making TC colony ships. Let's make some more yards, and the remaining Yards will produce the Heavy Freighters and additional colony ships we need.

>>10998613
Here's what we market: Eclipse Phase-style muses. We'll make a killing.

>>10998760
We need to get to work on improving TC, then.

If we can figure out some way to do it with official approval, that would be even better. Get the UN behind our Tau Ceti operation and hamstring MNU's freedom to move against it.

Also, let's get some of our legal department working on an outer space version of the Washington Treaty. Agreeing to vastly restrict our warship tonnage won't hurt us much, given that once we weaponize portals every single one of our ships can potentially kill an opponent, and the benefit of putting a hard limit on how many warships MNU can build and how many they can have away from Sol should be obvious.

...All this hacking we've been doing makes me curious, why haven't we been hacked? I mean the UN seems to be afraid of us due to our thinking with portals and we have a whole bunch of stuff we don't want people finding out (haven't we been keeping the Aresians under our hat as well as AI and immortality/transhumanism?)

For portal weaponry:

Could we develop it so that it "grabs" a section of the target and then 'ports it away? Like an Eldar D-cannon?

>>10998897
Put one of our AIs and/or a sociologist team towards figuring out a way to make them advance that's supported by their existing cultural framework.

>>10998930
You have been hacked, several times.

You've been the subject of hacking attempts far, far more often.

That security does come in handy, you know.

>>10998919
>Here's what we market: Eclipse Phase-style muses. We'll make a killing.

I am not sure what that is but if it makes us lodsamoney then I am all for it.


Also, lets hack Pentex to see if they have any developments on FTL and steal any tech on Umbra.

>>10998930
If we have an AI dedicated to espionage, it's probably also handling counterespionage for us. Anybody without an AI of their own is going to be at an incredible disadvantage if they try to hack us.

>>10998861
We really need to find a way to solidify our "friendship" with Morgan. Hell, there is also the new Chrysalis Corporation from last game. Attempt to open up negotiations with them to help them grow.

Because really... having Nyarlahotep on our side (or at least the closest thing to "our side") will be a damn good thing. If we don't and he becomes an enemy then oh boy we are fucked.

Autosaging.

Advancing to Year 2168 with new suggestions. Will post in new thread.

>>10998955
So lets NEVER release our AIs before they develop their own.

Plasma please give list of our AI and their tasks.

Also are they showing any signs of contempt?

>>10998954
A muse is a semisentient AI that functions as a personal organizer/secretary/aide. As you use it, it learns your preferences, and becomes increasingly capable of bringing things to your attention based on your preferences/needs.

>>10998897
...Are there any groups that don't share that view? There is nothing more distasteful than willful ignorance, and I'm beginning to suspect our faith in them was... misplaced.
Also, have we put any money into detecting extraterrestrial communications? It would be nice to have some genuine allies that we form a mutual relationship with (and I'm 90% sure that they won't have portal technology, so we'll be able to at minimum moderately impress them)

ALSO, PLASMA, NEVER RELEASE ANY OF OUR DISCOVERIES/INVENTIONS PUBLICLY UNLESS WE SAY SO SPECIFICALLY.

>>10998897

As >>10998804 said, a charismatic and focused leader may be able to change them. Perhaps we should change focus from instead of trying to artificially advance their technology to attempting to change their culture to better fit our needs.

Cultural shift, nigga. Show them their potential. Social engineering isn't that difficult.

If not then we could just try to create our own sub-faction and then help them take over.

rolled 33 = 33

>>10998977
WAIT!
lets hack Pentex!
(what are our bonuses anyway?)

>>10998897
Fucking.... science hippies! Think they can just lounge around discovering the secrets of the universe? The bastards.


All right then, you mentioned in the dossier that they have these intelligence tests which people have to take and pass in order to become rulers, and that they have a lot of corruption in these tests for political reasons. Well, why don't we point this out to them, and then propose our new, better self regulating electronic system which can't be hacked or tampered with.

Then when their leadership begins to alter more and more, we'll start to show them about some of the more profound secrets of the universe, really theoretical things that require huge industrial undertakings in order to complete, like the LHC, and begin to encourage and support those scientists who are more interested in answer deeper scientific question, and understand that these projects require massive amounts of work and collaborations.

It won't make them much more productive, but a few huge projects like this, though they;ll consume time, will alter their perceptions of what they'll have to do in order to learn more about there world.

>>10999079
I like this.

>>10998995
Oh right. Lets do it! EVERYONE would want one! Its like how mobile phones are popular today.

If we were to release a muse/ai publicly, we would want it to be extremely, EXTREMELY low scale, making it harder for other corps to try and reverse engineer and advance it.

>>10999079
I mean, you can sit around in your lad all day mixing chemicals, but you're not going to find exotic matter until you get up off your ass an build a giant mile long particle smasher out of superconducting electro magnets.

>>10999117
Oniiiiiiiiii-chan

>>10999142
>I mean, you can sit around in your lad
And what I meant to say was lab, sitting inside your son will lad will yield much, much less favourable results.

>>10999105
Think of a muse as the ultimate combination of every single personal communications and organization device ever, with a semisentient AI giving it the ability to act without direct orders from the user. It's a personal assistant, only better and more affordable.

>>10999168
>More affordable.

Go back to communist Kuba we're in this for the profits. We'll make the i-phones pricing look reasonable.

>>10999079
In other words, give them theories that are impossible for them to experimentally confirm unless they boost their technological level. I like this idea.

>>10999185
By "more affordable" I meant "more affordable than having a living, breathing personal assistant".

>>10999214
Why should it be cheaper if it is so much better?
(Special addons, including "Japanese 18" variants sold separately.)

-the holograph's resolution seems unable to convey the shedding of natural eye lubricant in a machismo manner, but you get the gist of it-

>>10999079
And incredible idea! Stoking the fires of curiosity, beneath the heels of our Aresian allies.

This could work if we give them proper safety supervision.

>>10999187

By Hel, even the canny Mantis finds this to be an idea of worthy merit.

I humbly submit to the SLINT board that we follow this course of action.

Sell the muses, but with addon functionality that can only be bought from our stores. Like iTunes, but with better apps.

And if they try to hack it, the AI auto-destructs.

>>10999239
Because we want to make sure that it sells. If it costs more than hiring a living person to do the job, then you're doing it wrong.

The goal is to spread our name far and wide as the corporation you come to if you want the future, and in particular a future without atrocity. The bigger the install-base we get, the better the results.

For the super-expensive option, we package the muse into a robot body, tailored to the user's tastes. We can call that variant the persocom.

>>10999342
New thread: >>10999342

>>10999273
Well these big projects take more time to organise than they do to build, it won't happen over night, but we might not even have to attempt the previously stated method of political tinkering though those intelligence tests.

You make a good point about safety though, we don't want them producing any black holes by accident after all.

>>10999300
Just make it so that the only way to reprogram the muse is with sensory input. And the only thing that gives you direct access to the source code, as opposed to the memory banks, is a specific sequence of sensory inputs that can only be performed by a Sleipnir tech.