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    123 KB Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)17:34 No.10995841  

    You're Sleipnir Interstellar, a subsidiary of a megacorporation known as Solutions Tactical Finance Unlimited. Assisting you are another subsidiary, Aperture Science. Using their intuitive shower curtain technology, you have revolutionized inter-planetary transport amongst so many other things.

    Rival megacorporations include Alien's Weyland-Yutani, Avatar's RDA, WoD's Pentex, SMAC's Morgan Industries, Bladerunner's Tyrell Corporation, Fifth Element's Zorg Corporation and CthulhuTech's Chrysalis Corporation.

    Last session... Well, read the other threads. Shit got fucked up. More limits placed on you by the UN but at the same time, your income almost doubled. Sadly, we slowed down again last time. Let's get up to speed again, eh? The current year is 2165 - we've passed 2164 by.

    So, gentlemen, do you want to play a game?

    Previous threads:
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:36 No.10995861
    forcibly destroy our enemies with the power of portals
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:37 No.10995889
    FUCK YEAH! Megacorp quest!
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)17:39 No.10995922
    Welcome, you two. Anyone else interested?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:41 No.10995946
    I am as well. I'm thinking we need to very strongly stake out turf, and push toward becoming a nation-style state in our own right.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:42 No.10995963
    What happened to the Endel game? hmm? HMMM?

    also: sure why not.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:43 No.10995970
    Endel game? I know he ran the original Corp Quest and Slug Quest (both excellent), but what's this?
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)17:44 No.10995987
    Reality has been extremely demanding lately and I apologize for forgetting about the Endel game.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)17:45 No.10996010
    It was a game that I was interested in running. I gathered several players, but one of them was particularly irritating and off-putting for me and my recent schedule has put me off it completely.


    I should really start this.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:45 No.10996014
    It was an RP rather than a Quest Thread that he wanted to run, but it never got off. don't mind me.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)17:46 No.10996023
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    Year 2165:
    Deidre Skye informs you that Umbral research is complete. Gates into the Umbra can now be constructed with a synthetic replica of Garou nervous network that your research department has developed. The energy costs are quite high and it's quite inefficient - but the gates are stable and permanent. Using this technology, you are able to deploy sensors into the Umbra that can detect anything nearby in the Umbra. This allows for the detection of Pentex stealth ships.
    Your research department also informs you, quite uncertainly, that based on the amount of research they've done and the funds available, they could begin research on two megaprojects that will take decades to finish. Interstellar travel via portal and a technological singularity. Details are in the research list.
    A research list is available. If enough people vote, a new option can be added to the research list. Would you like to view research list?
    Your research teams have finished the creation of three AI specimens - two of which are electronical and one of which is biological. All three have been developed on Earth. Would you like to issue commands?
    Additional funds have been added to security.
    Additional funds have been added to research.
    Martian secessionist debates continue without any results at this stage. It's difficult to see what the final outcome of the situation will be at this stage.

    Balance: $818b
    Income: $837b
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:47 No.10996035
    Well then, let's do this.

    In other news, I want to make a spaceship version of a viking longship and raid other corps. Might not be feasible just yet.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)17:48 No.10996054
    Going to quickly catch up on the last thread, then I'll be back.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:49 No.10996062
    I wish to participate, but tragically, sleep beckons.

    Can someone archive this with Sup/tg/ when you're done?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:49 No.10996070
    View research list.
    Get those AIs off of earth; at least 2 of them. We could leave one to help our interests there, but I'm wary of UN intervention.
    Of the 2 options, I move for interstellar portal travel.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)17:50 No.10996081
    Sadly, no. Such open warfare is not optional (except against Pentex and only in Alpha Centauri)
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:50 No.10996085
    View the research list.
    Also: Am i allowed to come with suggestions for research?
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)17:51 No.10996093
    View the research list.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)17:53 No.10996121
    Research List:
    - Further Development of Energy Transfer Portals - Allows for increased efficiency.
    - Further Development of Modular Starship System - Increase maximum module capacity.
    - Further Development of Starship Portal Chassis - Allows for increased efficiency.
    - Macro Sapience - Develop an understanding of "world minds" similar to those on Chiron and Pandora and an ability to recreate them.
    - Macro Portal Carriers - Adapt portal technology so starships possessing it can be utilized as carriers.
    - Military Applications of Portal Technology - Discover possible applications of this technology in space warfare.
    - Military Applications of Portal Edges - Discover possible applications of this technology in space warfare.
    - The Road to Interstellar Conquest - Initiate FTL (Portal) travel research - works in stages. Requires $500b a year.
    - The Road to the Singularity - Initiate research into technological singularitity - works in stages. Requires $500b a year.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:54 No.10996131
    What about researching Von Neumann machines that could be repurposed into general manufacturing? Drop a few of them into an empty star system, let them grow until a set number, and then you have a self-building manufacturing site.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:54 No.10996137
    Shit, sorry if it was me.

    Do we need to keep the gates running whilst the sensors are in the umbra? if so, try and get a few people to make it more efficient. we don't want to get in a mess and then allow Pentex to get the better of us.
    View research list
    and not yet, no.

    technological singularity would be awesome.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:54 No.10996138
    I'm late, I missed the last few threads, and probably aren't good enough at this kinda thing to participate. But I have a suggestion to deal with Pandora, if it still stands. What is it's current status?
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)17:55 No.10996160
    Move one of the electronic AIs off of Earth. If nothing else, having it in one of our extrasolar holdings would improve response time.

    As for the biological AI... is there any way that we can announce, as a PR gesture and so on and so forth, that we're going to try to build a new ecosystem on Pandora from the usable scraps we picked up from the one that Pentex murdered? And secretly, of course, we're going to turn our biological AI into said ecosystem.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:56 No.10996162
    >> Raptor Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:56 No.10996174
    Can we see:
    a current research list (tech that is already researched)
    A to-do research list
    a restricted (too high of cost, or just a plain no) research list
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:57 No.10996182
    This could be pretty cool.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)17:57 No.10996185
    Last year, Pandora was rendered a lifeless sphere of rock. UN has granted mining rights to Weyland-Yutani under a strict set of rules, none of your warships can leave Alpha Centauri and half of them in Alpha Centauri must be guarding Pandora and all Pentex ships in Pandora must be shot on sight.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)17:57 No.10996186
    Macro Sapience and Road to the Singularity. With those two in hand, we don't need much else.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:57 No.10996188
    Oh, well that's basically what I was gonna suggest, so we're good!

    I'll go back to trying to figure out how this works now, carry on gentlemen.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:57 No.10996195
    Put the three AI's in a facility designed with manual overrides and other safety features meant to be used in case one of the AI's goes rogue. Hook the three of them up into a double-redundant system, where major actions are voted upon requiring a 2/3 majority. Self-destruct requires a unaminous vote.

    Prepare all Earth shipyards for the construction of colony ships and freighters; destination is Tau Ceti.
    For long range plans, 2 warships to be contructed in Sol with destination of Epsilon Eridani after they serve their tour in the UN.

    Research the megaproject Interstellar Portals.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:57 No.10996198
    I think we should go with the 'The Road to Interstellar Conquest' for mega projects. It's most likely more useful, and when it is done, we will be remembered as THE company which invented FTL (in on form or the other).

    Also, I wanted to make a possible suggestion to the research list.
    The possible uses of a strong electromagnetic field to defend a ship against attacks and space debris.
    >> Raptor Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:58 No.10996203
    These are high on our list

    - Macro Sapience - Develop an understanding of "world minds" similar to those on Chiron and Pandora and an ability to recreate them.
    - Macro Portal Carriers - Adapt portal technology so starships possessing it can be utilized as carriers.
    - Military Applications of Portal Technology - Discover possible applications of this technology in space warfare.
    - Military Applications of Portal Edges - Discover possible applications of this technology in space warfare.
    - The Road to Interstellar Conquest - Initiate FTL (Portal) travel research - works in stages. Requires $500b a year.

    and I mean my list.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)17:59 No.10996219
    This is a good plan, but we need some way to keep them from going rouge. What about programming them to destroy any "mutant" VN's that may arise?
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:00 No.10996231
    Have we already researched how to use portals for those purposes?

    In fact, could we please have a list of what's been researched to date? It would help with some idea of where we're ahead of or behind the curve.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:00 No.10996232
    Interstellar Travel.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:00 No.10996233
    One thing I forgot to add to this post, downside is it will probably take quite a while for them to get a decent manufacturing capability up and running. How long-term are we willing to get here?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:02 No.10996275
    I think we should put Macro-Carriers and military applications of portals higher on our list. Space is becoming increasingly militarized, and we saw what happened to our defenseless colony ship in Epsilon Eridani.
    Also, with the military application of portal edges, we could put that on our ships and as long as we don't release the information, we could use it as a defense system on a colony ship without the UN labeling it as a warship.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:03 No.10996279
    I already know that. I just thought it was a good idea (though a bit redundant maybe, with the portal thing).
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:03 No.10996282
    The easiest way to deal with them is just to have an EMP generator nearby. One of the problems with nanoscale replicators is that it's nigh-impossible to harden them against that sort of attack.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)18:04 No.10996313
    Initiating THE ROAD TO INTERSTELLAR CONQUEST megaproject research.


    Also, regarding the AI:
    - Moving one biological unit and one electronical unit to Hermes orbital facility.
    - Constructing an orbital facility in Martian orbit to place one electronical unit in.
    - Initiating the security measures stated in: >>10996195

    Anything else you wish to do this year?

    Anything that you feel like constructing?

    Anything you wish for your colonies to do?

    Remember, anything you do not spend goes to STFU.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:07 No.10996368
    Wait, just noticed something from last thread.

    I'm changing my vote to Interstellar Portals, and recommending that we take out loans if necessary to speed up the research process. The reason is that group of people offering $27.8t to anyone who can get them offworld. We use our interstellar portals, then pay off the loans with the money we make from shipping the rich people off so they can build Rapture.
    >> Raptor Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:08 No.10996375
    actually that is a great idea. defensive capabilities is dissimilar to that of warships. It would be an easy way to get around any kind of block.

    And if we get the whole macro-portal carriers, and ftl, well. Every ships now becomes a warship unless we figure out a way to define it as otherwise.

    1: ftl
    2: portal edges
    3: macro-carriers
    4: macro-sapience
    5: Energy Transfer
    6: Military Portal
    7: Modular
    8: Starship chassis
    9: Singularity

    That is my vote for what tech we research, at what priority. Low is high priority.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:08 No.10996384
    Research Von Neumann machines.

    Double our manufacturing facilities on Ares.
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    Yes, but it would be a massive waste of resources to set it off and destroy -all- of them just to get -one- rouge unit.

    I say again, what's wrong with adding to their programming so they'll simply consume any VN machine that isn't like the others?

    We have to prevent this motherfucker from happening at all costs. Not just for Humanity's sake, but for the sake of profit loss due to eaten ships, worlds, facilities...
    >> Raptor Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:10 No.10996411
    500 into ftl. leaving: 318.
    suggestion: fill all construction stations with ships. Then use remaining to expand R&D.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:10 No.10996414
    I think we might want to look for some information on Weyland-Yutani. Any dirt we can dig up would be nice, but the main point is just to get a better idea of what they're up to.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:10 No.10996423
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    -The holographic image adjusts it's Odinson's hammer cufflinks before joining the meeting in progress.-

    Good to be back board members of SLINT.

    We might be best served by gaining a foothold in far off shores as our fearless archetypes once did across the trackless oceans.


    I humbly propose the development of FTL travel at 500billion a year earmarked as "The Road to Interstellar Conquest".


    The three AI's we developed were meant to be used in concert. One biological brain acting as a mediator between us and the software-expressed remaining two intelligences.

    This means they'd be most effective for our plans as a single unit. for some reason we developed them on Earth and more than likely the big players know of them already. I say we take the hit to PR and make it appear that THIS batch wasn't a a success with their remains being brought to our further holdings outside of Sol.

    This being an obvious ploy it would at least flush out those interests most ready to steal the entire intact unit.

    Also these AI's having umbral representations would out them at risk anywhere near Pentex.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:11 No.10996430
    And uh, what about using Von Neumann Machines for corporate warfare? Not a giant swarm of them, but just a small batch of maybe a hundred or so units deposited into enemy shipyards, designed to find only a certain type of metal, like those in their circuits, wiring, and all that?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:11 No.10996434
    Please don't ignore me!

    Alright, Plasma, I had an idea which I readied for previous session, sadly I am on another computer and don't have the file I readied just to copy-pasta.

    Anyway, it went something like this:
    Now that we have AI, we must build them. I propose to build 6 of them:
    2 for research (one biological, one technical)
    2 for espionage (1 bio, 1 tech)
    2 for counter-espionage/security (1 bio, 1 tech)
    I also had a different name for each but don't want to dwell on it too long. MIMER and GLaDOS for research. Shodan, Skynet, Icarus, HAL9000 for others (or if people feel to sappy they can choose other, less threatening names)
    4 AIs for security and espionage related tasks? YES, I am that paranoid ... and YOU should be too!

    Also, give immortality for our Lone Gunmen (I thought we already did that when we had "immortality for VIPs" update.

    Also set up espionage department.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:12 No.10996450
    Float a contract idea to the Mars Seperatists. We can get them to Tau Ceti, which by all accoun ts seems to be a paradise world. The only considerations are that we are allowed to continue mining operations in the system's asteroid belt, and that we still be allowed to touch down on the planet for emergency repairs and to replenish consumables (water, air, etc.).

    Put comm satellites in orbit around Ares, and build up our presence there.
    Hermes yards will construct the requisite military ships for the interdiction, and some freighters for the AC-Sol run.

    Buy 2 Pandorium engines and fit them on Heavy Freighters to be built on Earth.
    Here's my plan: We build them as freighters and then send them to a new habitable system as part of a colonization fleet. Once there, and beyond the UN 's control, we refit them as warships. Warships that now have unlimited range and haven't been used by the UN for the next 6 years, and is already out of the Sol system.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:13 No.10996473
    Their programming should already pretty much cover it, in that they're going to have to be defining themselves under some sort of "do not consume" order to prevent them from trying to dismantle each other for raw materials. Anything that changes from the designated baseline falls under that order and is consumed.

    It also has the advantage of being literally fail-safe; if that bit of programming goes wrong, the VN machines attack each other first.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:14 No.10996495
    Also, why bio and tech for each?

    well, I think each has their advantages and disadvantages so thats why I decided to do it like that.

    Also, set up AI terminals in our board of directors room so that AI can feel equal or something.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:14 No.10996506
    Why don't we research using portal technology for long-distance communication, then having portals link the three AIs together without a need for physical proximity?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:16 No.10996529
    Because we already use quantum entanglement FTL comm systems.
    These things literally have no lag time. Portals would actually be slower.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)18:16 No.10996536
    Weyland-Yutani is primarly into asteroid mining, gas siphoning and other things. They're the only corporation interested in systems that lack terrestrial planets. As such, they boast a presence in over ten different star systems. They do not sell any forms of unobtainium - but they certainly handle almost all of the solar system's raw materials. They also are the corporation with the most colonists in space, with you in second.

    Reading the rest now, sorry.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:17 No.10996549
    We don't need warships. All we need are Military Uses of Portal Technology, Military Uses of Portal Edges and Interstellar Portals. Once we have those, we can reach out and touch someone from another star system.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:18 No.10996567
    Get Deidre working on terra forming our planet in Tau Ceti!
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:19 No.10996589
    In addition, start construction of another set of AI's. 3 to be constructed and produced as a triple-redundant system, and used in our R&D.
    1 to be constructed, and hardened heavily. This one will work closely with the remaining Lone Gunmen and any espionage department we have.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:21 No.10996620
    Then why does physical proximity matter for our AIs in the first place?

    We should probably start looking into systems without terrestrial planets ourselves, for resource purposes. Gas giants, ice giants, systems where planets never formed, all have useful stuff in them. Also, learning how to inhabit those sorts of hostile locations would let us utilize the star systems we hold more fully.
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    -the holographic image rubs its chin and nods in agreement-


    Perhaps this could be Operation Longboat?

    Our modular design model is common knowledge the UN must be worried that it could be used for such an action. Thankfully your plan keeps our actions out of UN jurisdiction.


    Perhaps increase our Pan-Genetic hybridization capabilities to include, hypothetical at this point, silicon based life? This would give us a leg up on any transhuman upgrades and might allow a mechanical AI to enjoy biological sensation directly.

    Although the old proverb of "inb4 synthetic species revolution" seems applicable.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:22 No.10996639
    I think we're going to want at least one of our Magi setups offworld, just in case.
    >> Raptor Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:22 No.10996640
    gas giants, ice giants, planets with lots of magma/lava (resource abundant and accessible) low gravity planets, etc.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)18:24 No.10996655
    Based off of suggestions, moving on to Year 2166.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:25 No.10996677
    Phyiscal proximity isn't the issue. It's physical security. Granted, have 3 AIs in different locations would secure against a disaster at one, but it also forces us to spread security assets across three facilities instead of one. It's a question of cost versus security versus disaster recovery.

    I do agree with you on the second point. Since we have AI's, perhaps we could set up an automated system of 1 AI overseer and a system full of robot miners? Sent as a 1 package deal on a starship to a given star system.
    Complete with our FTL comms and our transhuman research allowing for minds to be transferred, and a couple cloning tubes on the ship, a human presence can be created on-site in case something comes up.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:26 No.10996688
    There's an easy way to avoid the synthetic species revolution: don't make them sapient. A bit above dog-level would do nicely for most things, and would allow us to build in a pack structure that defaults to humans as the alphas. If you need something sapient in a synthmorph, go transhuman instead.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:28 No.10996717
    Intelligence without personality.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:30 No.10996735
    We have portal tech. We're not building three separate facilities in different places, we're building one facility across three different locations. Especially once we have interstellar portals available, and can thus minimize travel times.

    Oh, and on that note, another idea once we've got interstellar portals: time travel. Synchronize the temporal locations instead of the spatial ones, especially once you've got portals across light years, and you're golden.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:30 No.10996749
    We should perhaps consider granting our AI's corporate citizenship, if they are sentient. This would help to head off any AI uprising, and make our company preferable to a world that would regard the AI as just a program.
    We should also consider extending the same considerations to the Aresians.
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    -the holograph flickers for a moment and resolves itself leaning forward and intent-


    I agree with Kichigai Mantis about the AI's communication protocols. However it is not a matter of the AIs' proximity to each other that's the problem. These prototype AIs are on Earth which ,despite being our biggest market, is currently where the rival Mega-Corps reside.


    Kichigai Mantis' military expertise is well shown! Weaponized Portal Tech offers incredible utility in our overall plans.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:33 No.10996792
    I don't know if that's possible. Assuming that the thing that creates sapience is the inherent randomness of the electrochemical systems that our consciousness is held in, you'd need to duplicate that randomness to get a synthetic intelligence that does more than just following a pre-programmed set of instructions. That randomness, however, all but guarantees that a personality would develop over time.

    Better to allow for the personality, and just not make artificial intelligences at human level. They're either physically immobile and much smarter than us, or physically mobile and not as smart.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:34 No.10996798
    Yes, under normal circumstances, the '1 facility in 3 places' idea works. But what about if the power fails? Not just simply primary power, but the backup secondaries, and the tertiaries. In the case of a hostile intrusion, wouldn't 1 greater facility be better to secure than 3 separate ones?
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:35 No.10996818
    We declare that freedom is the right of all sentient beings? I like that idea.
    >> Raptor Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:37 No.10996854
    only if you made the systems as redundant as having 3. 3 main powers, 3 backups. triple the budget to produce it. Triple the security team that will be there. Maintain same staffing.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:38 No.10996862
    If we can transmit information via quantum entanglement, we should also be able to transmit energy. Use that to ensure that said situation never comes up.

    And in the event of that sort of catastrophic power failure, better to have either limited the enemy to one portion of the facility or to have forced them to divide their efforts across three distant areas than to have them able to hit the whole facility at once.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:38 No.10996867
    Oh, in addition, can we get an update on the situation on Chiron and how Morgan Industries is doing there? We are a junior partner in that enterprise so it is in our interest to keep an eye on that.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)18:38 No.10996870
    Only problem is when the AI's start wondering what the "real world" is really like.

    But what the heck, we're the guys naming our supercomputers after evil pop-culture AIs so we shouldn't care, someone else will have to worry about the inevitable revolution.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)18:38 No.10996871
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    Year 2166:
    New research initiated.
    The Martian Seperatists do not accept your deal for Tau Ceti - they wish for independence for the entire world of Mars. However, a small minority of them - still numbering in the millions - is willing to pay $6b per 1000 by the 2180 date for a new world away from the UN and away from corporations. So, if you build colonyships for them, they'll happily come along.
    The Martian situation still remains solid.
    Weyland-Yutani, MNU and the UN appear to have entered some sort of deal. Weyland-Yutani have offered their orbital drydock for the MNU to build the largest military vessel feasible - called the "Gargantua" - as a gift for the UN for law enforcement purposes.
    Three new AI have been constructed.
    Three are on their way to Alpha Centauri.

    Balance: $338b
    Income: $338b
    >> Raptor Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:40 No.10996916
    sabatoge their efforts.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:41 No.10996917
    Hmmm... With AIs why limit ourselves to either Biological or Technological when we can combine both for maximum efficiency. For example an AI that is one part Genetic Lifeform and one part Disc Operating System. I see absolutely no downsides to this.
    Also, I'm supporting interstellar portals instead of tech singularity, because thus far are business practices are for and by humans, and after the singularity, that might no longer be the case, in which case there would be setbacks.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)18:41 No.10996922
    Why do I get a bad feeling about this "Gargantua"?

    Nobody gives a gift for free. Especially not when you are a Megacorp, the gift is a battleship and the reciever are the motherfucking UN.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:41 No.10996926
    Part of the problem with AI's wanting to destroy Mankind is that they don't have a stake in maintaining the status quo. We need to find a way that the AI's will want to protect Mankind and work with us, not against us or for a perceived "I know what's best for them" line of thinking.

    Putting them in physical avatars and interacting with the physical world might work towards that.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:41 No.10996934
    We also might want to keep our Interstellar Portal research under a blanket of utmost secrecy until it's ready to deploy. If the UN or the other hypercorps figure out that we're working on that tech, they'll probably realize the implications of it before we can finish researching it, and this quest will turn into the final stages of a Space Victory attempt in a Civ game. Present them with a fait accompli, and it's too late for them to stop us.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)18:42 No.10996937
    I assume that is the idea behind the 3 in conjunction, 2 tech and 1 bio.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:42 No.10996942
    How feasible would it be to outdo them in building fuck huge spaceships?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:43 No.10996961
    I approve because we don't want to be the dicks whose greed caused the apocalypse, we want t be the guys that the average citizen will say 'sure they're avaricious and amoral, but at least they're not evil like the other guys'
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:45 No.10996988
    Use a series of "disasters" in our colony ship construction program to camouflage the hole in our budget from the Interstellar Portal research project. Once we can build stargates, we won't need colony ships anyway, and getting the other corps to assume that we're collapsing on our own and focus on dismantling each other can only be a good thing.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)18:45 No.10996989
    Your next research project enables you to increase the size of your vessels substantially - but not to this level. It takes a significant amount of research to be able to construct vessels of this magnitude.

    The Gargantua's specs are available for public observation.

    Would you like to see?
    >> Raptor Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:45 No.10996992
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:46 No.10996998
    I guess you're right, though I feel it's a waste to have Aperture Science and AI without having GLaDOS as well.
    I mean sure it's incredibly risky, but it's potentially lucrative as well.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)18:46 No.10997008
    Hmm, this made me think. Given that we are good in modular ship building, how feasible would it be after constructing a fuckhueg "assembling station" to let our masses of con-yards on Earth produce the modules that we then send up in space via portals and assemble into a mofo colony ship? With that we might be able to construct a large enough carrier for us to get the Martians away.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:46 No.10997011
    Yes. Integrate good ideas into our ships. Look for flaws we can exploit in sabotage.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:47 No.10997017
    Combine this anon's idea with mine in >>10996988. We build an XBAWKS HUEG spaceship as cheaply as possible for the sole purpose of using it for our maskirovka.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:47 No.10997018
    Begin construction of 4 more TC colony ships for the Mars Separatists that took up our deal. 1 more TC colony ship for our own personnel, and 1 TC Heavy Freighter with space station parts, mining equipment, and anything else our TC colony says they need.

    For the Ares and Hermes yards, have them begin churning out crawlers to be sent out to all remaining unexplored systems.
    Devote 1 Ares CY to the construction of a conventional stealth technology equipped probe, and send it to Epsilon Eridani. We need to know what MNU is doing there.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)18:47 No.10997029
    Yes, and run it by our techies and see what they can get out of it.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:48 No.10997045
    Show us the specs, show us how far they are willing to go in a dick-waving contests!
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:48 No.10997048
    Begin construction of 8 colony modulized colony ships with hard-points to allow connection to other ships. Situate them to form a cube.
    I forgot where I was going with this idea...
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:49 No.10997056

    Also, what's the current time estimate for when we'll finish the Interstellar Portals megaproject?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:49 No.10997067
    On a separate note, what's going on with Chiron and MI?
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)18:50 No.10997078
    Or at least next "stage", useful thingy that we can use for profit.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:51 No.10997096
    Does it matter? I'm pretty sure we're immortal by now.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:52 No.10997112
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    Maybe you were subconsciously aiming for this...
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)18:52 No.10997116

    It looks roughly cylindrical - almost like a basking shark, complete with a "mouth". The "mouth" is a large, empty section at the front of the vessel, approximately 400m deep. They say that this is to contain technology yet to be developed.

    Length: 6253m
    Radius: 1396m
    Interstellar Capability: Epsilon Eridani, 0.75c
    Cargo Capacity: 5,000,000 tons.
    Cryo Capacity: 200,000 humans.
    Living Quarters: 25,000 humans

    Weaponry and Armour:
    80 Missle Silos (spaced primarily around the back section)
    80 Railguns (spaced primarily around the front on turrets, around the "mouth)
    The "Disco" System (see previous threads for details on this)

    Construction Completion Date: 2185.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:52 No.10997121
    What the hell??

    Give Lone Gunmen immortality!

    They should work even better as they would have direct link into their brain and computers.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:53 No.10997143
    Yes, because a lot of our current plans are either predicated on us having FTL systems, or still using STL ships, and we don't know which ones to implement without some kind of estimate for the completion of the project.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)18:53 No.10997145
    Sorry for not seeing that.



    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)18:54 No.10997158
    Hmm, is it possible for us to aquire a "Disco" system for weapons testing, how good Portal Weapons can penetrate this defense system?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:54 No.10997163
    ...Well all right then.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:54 No.10997167
    1285? we got time.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:55 No.10997173

    If we've completed the whole thing by, say, 2178 or so, we can use that tech to get all those people who want to leave by 2180 off-world. If not, we'll have to use more conventional methods.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:56 No.10997196
    In that case, create multiple bodies with their consciousnesses in them. Double their work force.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)18:57 No.10997209
    It will take a long, long time.

    Their rough estimate is that they will be ready to test instanteous travel via portal over a distance of one light year by 2177.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)18:57 No.10997210
    It has several times been stated that it would take trillions and decades. Now that was only an estimate, but I do not think we should rely on getting it within 12 years.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:57 No.10997217
    That thing is constructed in the Sol system right?
    Besides, the thing is unfeasibly large.
    Why? Let me elaborate.
    Let's assume we are the only ones working on FTL right now. When we complete our FTL, I presume that it would be in the form of gigantic portal stations, right?
    If so, I doubt any of them would be made large enough for that fuck huge spaceship to fit, which means it would be restricted to sub light speeds.

    It would still be pretty damn powerful though.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:58 No.10997229
    Remember, Portals still require an embarkation Gate and a Disembarkation Gate. So while the travel between Portals might be instantaneous, getting one end of a Portal to a star system is not.

    We'll need to create automated seeder ships to go out and build Portals in new star systems.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:58 No.10997233
    one light year?
    What would it take to decrease that amount of time?
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)18:58 No.10997238
    That's to me suprisingly good.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)18:59 No.10997254
    In that case, what we need to start setting up is a chain of stations about .9ly apart to put those portals in once they're developed.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)18:59 No.10997260
    rolled 55 = 55

    Deploy Umbra sensors in Alpha Centauri.

    We do not want them to surprise us.

    Also hackan Pentex (reserve money for cover up)
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:00 No.10997279
    It would be easy to destroy. Yay portal edges!
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:00 No.10997297
    rolled 11 = 11

    Since you guys keep forgetting we can hackan and slashan I'll do one again.

    hack WY (reserve money for cover up)
    Oh, and work in conjunction with AIs (also give immortality to Lone Gunmen)
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)19:01 No.10997308
    Just use our quantum-entangled comms to transmit detailed blueprints, then build each portal terminus in situ. That won't help for places we haven't been to yet, but would vastly speed up portal construction anywhere we already have quantum comms and a construction facility.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:02 No.10997320
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    And when that happens, we get our troll-faces on.
    "Problem UN?"
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)19:02 No.10997322
    Also, fit all warships we own with some.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:02 No.10997323
    Oh shit I missed that you already gave them immortality


    In hindsight, I should have expected that.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:03 No.10997360
    They might achieve an earliy breakthrough.

    This chance will be achieved if you keep on improving the R&D department as you have. Almost all of your research has been completed far, far earlier than predicted.

    Also, their prediction is that researching instantaneous travel via portal over n+1 light years will take 75% of the time than portal travel over n light years took.

    In short, if EVERYTHING goes to plan, they predict:
    1 LY = Maximum 11 Years Research
    2 LY = Maximum 8 Years Research
    3 LY = Maximum 6 Years Research
    4 LY = Maximum 5 Years Research
    5 LY = Maximum 4 Years Research

    If everything goes to plan, at least, it will reach the stage where they have developed interstellar portal technology to the point where it can cover any distance.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:04 No.10997361
    what about ship based?
    Creates a portal at one point, then an exit 1 ly away.

    Question to plasma. Would the stations that create the portals be able to move through the portals they create? do the portals have the same limitations as the ones of smaller size? i.e. 10 minutes only when unsupported by energy?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:04 No.10997380
    Did we have a thread last week? I can't find it on suptg.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:05 No.10997388
    But that presupposes that our colonies have all of the facilities needed to contruct Portal components, which they currently don't. Even then, we only have a presence in Alpha Centuari and Tau Ceti. Maybe we could build one in AC, since that's our oldest and biggest operation, but I doubt that Tau Ceti has the necessary infrastructure.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:05 No.10997391

    There must always be something else generating a portal larger than itself for an object to go through the portal.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)19:06 No.10997405
    So they say that we'll have a gate to AC in 2200?

    Well, ok then, I suggest the board increases the funding of this project with 20% (ie, 100bil)
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:06 No.10997408
    There was no thread last week due to janitorial presence.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:07 No.10997419
    can research be done to remove that limitation at a later point in time?
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)19:07 No.10997426
    AC already got it. We should be able to make Tau Ceti able to do it soon. No more colonies, so when we settle in the future they bring a gate to assemble.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:08 No.10997429
    Let me guess, there was nothing left except touhou, traps and furry porn?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:10 No.10997459
    What is the deal with Mars right now?

    Why don't we contact all those millions of disgrunted people with trillions of $ on their hands nowhere to spend on and propose they form their own Mars independence party.

    Tell them we will support free Mars like giving hefty discounts on portal energy and submolecular knives (that way their industry will prosper much better)

    Make it ABSOLUTELY clear that we will not tolerate ANY kind of illegal protests. Like terrorism, propagandizing fascism, etc

    Everything must be lawful. UN laws state that people have right for self determination and they should exercise it.

    Besides, terrorism will get them absolutely no where.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)19:10 No.10997463
    How much quicker would it go if we build an AI trio and dedicate it entirely for the use of the R&D department?

    Also, do we have sufficiently good brain-uploading and virtual environment tech that we can have the researchers work from a simulspace being run at 10x+ from realtime?


    Then perhaps we should start improving our infrastructure in Tau Ceti?

    Also, if we want to develop VN machines, the only purpose we put them to is constructing new portal gates at a given location. Once we've got portals up, contained nanofabbers can do anything VN machines can, and with less risk of something going horribly wrong.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:10 No.10997470
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    Man, they are so obviously just doing that to fuck us over.

    Mark my words, there's only one thing they could plan to use that for: us.

    Anyway, that aside.

    Mars: pic related. Texas, Neptune, the list goes on... they were all great opportunities that in the end turned around and fucked us. This is going to be no different. Our enemies were willing to take an entire planet hostage to get at us, they'd be more than willing to fuel another's exodus.

    And on a side note, remember last thread when we got access to the avatar program. Well, I'll save you the trouble of finding out how it works, since it's basically magic: you form a link between two beings based of how compatible their DNA is. Anyway, I was thing that we could use this in conjunction with our neural networks, since there basically living computers, to create more enhanced pilot-machine controls, the downside is that they'd only work for one person. So unless you have a bunch of clones hanging around once the pilots out so's you machine. Anyway, just a though.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:11 No.10997488
    Yeah probably (that and some fanwank of some shit author or something).
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:12 No.10997497
    In a fashion, yes, it's possible.

    Also, you are not allowed to use the "Disco" system of the MNU. Just for safety purposes, see?

    WY hacking has failed.

    Pentex hacking has produced results.
    Regent has quit, apparently.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)19:13 No.10997524

    Would it be possible to get around that limitation by physically linking two stations through a portal, then having one station reconfigure itself to be small enough to pass through the portal? Think of having two rings linked to each other by a line, with one ring unfolding itself into a line and then being pulled through the other ring, and you'll have a rough visual approximation of what I'm thinking of.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:14 No.10997535
    The deal has been considered and refused.

    They're going to try and negotiate a better deal with the UN - if nothing can be achieved, they'll come back to you on the topic.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:15 No.10997549
    Like turning a sock with two holes inside out?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:15 No.10997551
    >Regent has quit, apparently.
    Quit as in 'left the company with a healthy pension'.

    Or quit as in he's dead.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:15 No.10997556
    Here's a possible idea for a weapon of mass scale. A set of portals folds into each other causing a singularity erupting at the nexus of their meeting. Instant black hole or some shit. I DUNNO, LOL
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:16 No.10997567
    Another possibility involves onboard replicators that create thousands of substations that go outside, encircle the station and generate a portal to move it to another portal large enough to accomodate the station.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)19:16 No.10997572
    Can we research using the avatar technology to make something like the Tines from A Fire Upon the Deep? We could use that as the basis for our synthlife, especially in fields where we'd need multiple units working in unison.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:16 No.10997575

    Man, having two superpowers would really ease things up (I think)
    No longer can UN dictate shit
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:17 No.10997579
    Left the company with a healthy pension.

    Apparently they tried to "fire" him in the true Pentex fashion (ripping and tearing) but he couldn't be located.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)19:18 No.10997601
    Kind of, yeah.

    Which of those two would be a) more likely to work, b) easier to build, and c) cheaper to build? Whichever has the best combination of those traits would be the one to look into.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:18 No.10997602
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:19 No.10997614
    Or just port everyone into the nearest star. Problem solved.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)19:20 No.10997631
    Let's see if we can locate him instead.

    If he's alive and not working for anyone else, we can hire him for our own use. If he IS working for someone else, we quietly and through an impenetrable screen of intermediaries let Pentex know where to find him.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:20 No.10997634
    They'll decide if they go with through with it.


    Does anyone wish to construct anything with the remaining cash?

    Or shall we just move on to 2167?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:20 No.10997644

    Couple for R&D
    Couple for espionage
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:20 No.10997648
    Give me your roll.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:21 No.10997654
    rolled 38 = 38


    Cover our tracks with cash if we fail.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:21 No.10997657
    AIs, ships, I dunno.
    Give it at least to megaproject.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:22 No.10997664
    New Directive: all cash that remains for the year goes into R&D.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)19:22 No.10997669
    Let's do that, then. The big thing that would give us, aside from constructing networks of more than two individuals and where multiple bodies can operate at the same time, is the ability to replace dead or missing network nodes with new ones. There would obviously be some change in personality, skills, and to an extent memories, but stream of consciousness would be preserved despite the change in the members of the network.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:23 No.10997677
    rolled 99 = 99

    Finding Regent
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:23 No.10997679
    Huh. I was pretty sure that he was no longer human by this point... if he ever was. Does the rest of the board think we should attempt to find him? I'm not sure if he's the type to bear a grudge or not.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:23 No.10997684
    Does any one else think that we might want to break up this Megaproject into bit sized chunks?

    It's just that we need to stay competitive, and we need new research in order to do that. We can't research two things at once, so that means that for the duration of our megaproject (read: a very long time) we won't be able to do anything.

    So maybe after we break that 2 or 3 Ly barrier we should take a break and select a highly important research piece to do, and once we finish that carry on with the megaproject.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:23 No.10997685
    Seriously, ho is Morgan doing?

    For fucks sake, I think I have asked this question for the last decade or so. Call him up and say whats up at least.

    Also, I asked a long time a ago to a quire good land on Chiron for our own colony. Like 1/20 of planet size or something
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:24 No.10997689
    I guess we found him.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:25 No.10997705

    Build a 0.75c crawler to go to that star chrysalis is trying to explore, Leland 12118 or what ever it was, build it in AC.

    We might as well put some of those yards to use.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)19:26 No.10997724

    We're researching 3 things at once.

    In addition to Megaproject.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:28 No.10997753
    We can't just ask him if he wants to go grab a beer.

    Chiron isn't claimed by anyone, though suddenly taking a bit of the planet won't make Morgan overjoyed. He's a business man after all, he doesn't like losing potential real estate.

    We don't need to though, there are other planets in AC we could colonize, the only thing Planet had going for it was the highly nitric soil.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)19:28 No.10997760
    Shit, something I just thought of regarding this:

    Can we compare cost estimates for this project with what we know about the finances of MNU and Weyland-Yutani?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:28 No.10997766
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    Fuck Yeah!
    Nice roll, anon.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:29 No.10997785
    No we aren't.

    That's our research queue, it's what we're going to be researching.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:29 No.10997787
    He defected with a group of Pentex's finest scientists and used his connections to get the fuck out of there. With limited funding, they've got a facility barely orbitting the sun in the furthest reaches of the solar system, beyond even the orbit of Pluto. Their systems - rather poor due to the lack of funding - have been hacked by the Lone Gunmen. Apparently they're focusing on more destructive uses of the Umbra.

    Destructive on the planetary level.

    Their predictions show that this should be complete by 2198 based on their current under-staff, under-funded research team.

    They're also predicted to become bankrupt by 2184.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:29 No.10997789
    I bet the dice gods thought this was tau quest, where high rolls are bad.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:31 No.10997826
    Hell, it must be costing them a bundle that's for sure.

    We'd need a small fleet of Warships, equipped with portal armour, to handle that thing. We should really tone down military production, otherwise they'll just use it as an excuse to destroy us.

    But yeah, lets timeskip already.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:31 No.10997831

    Maybe they just felt sorry for us after astonishingly bad rolls in past threads.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:32 No.10997836
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    -the holographic image adjusts its PDA/boarding axe holster and regards the situation-


    Regent has managed to leave a known 'demonic' death cult alive and in one piece?

    We cannot be sure that he is human and merely living out retirement torturing local ecosystems.

    He was responsible for the death of one of the Lone Gunmen/ Data Valkyries perhaps they could track him down liken to the mythic vanguard of Valhalla.

    The truly disturbing possibility is that Pentex wasn't "serious" enough about universal entropy and annihilation to keep Regent's attention.

    What about this Chrysalis Corporation? Have they had any gasmask encrusted new hires?

    A pension suggests Pentix is still delivery funds somewhere, last known Umbral address?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:32 No.10997838
    Are they doing this to get back at Pentex, or was Regent a little more into the whole 'Destroyer Cult' than people were comfortable with?

    Either way, I don't like the idea of someone having that kind of tech (that's not us), since we have a lot invested in good ol' Earth.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:32 No.10997839
    ...So did Pentex decide to fire all the LOL!Evil people and Regent and co are what's left? I mean I am not in favor of destroying planets (so wasteful) so I don't see how that could work for us. ...Kill him?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:32 No.10997846
    Keep an eye on them and steal the fuck out of their information. Get as much as we can from them. Possibly fund them as they run out of cash, so as to acquire new research from them.

    When they've served their usefulness, destroy them.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)19:32 No.10997848

    So, do we sell him out to Pentex?

    Or do we hire him?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:32 No.10997851
    Choices in this matter: recruit. Kill. Leave alone. Isolate. feed False data.
    I am in favor of kill, as I dont want the Umbra to be that bad.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:33 No.10997856
    Either report that shit to the UN, or get in there, Portal commando style.
    Regent is clearly so butthurt that he wants to destroy the world.
    If we kill him, no one will miss him, since he is operating in total secrecy.

    And even if they are doomed to go bankrupt, we should really not be taking any chances with this.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:33 No.10997866
    The question is:

    Do we turn these mad genocidal maniacs into the UN, watching as our 6, former, prized warships roll in and blow that station to space dust and be the heroes...


    Do we give them the funding they need?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:33 No.10997869
    So... what do we do with them?

    Bust their shit Kool-aid style? Or maybe hold them for ransom?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:34 No.10997875
    rolled 81 = 81

    Is Zorg still kicking around?

    Try hacking into their systems and see what we find.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:34 No.10997885

    Bomb the shit out of them, maybe the UN will remove the restrictions on us.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:34 No.10997888
    The costs approximately to $6.4t.

    Split between the two factions, that's enough to cause both of them at least a year or two of wallowing in debt.

    However, their prediction of income and of outgoing and of profit are all optimistic.

    It looks more like the costs are being split four ways.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:35 No.10997901
    Hey guys, quick question: What happens if something tries to go through a portal that's too small for it?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:36 No.10997914
    The best I think we can get from this is selling him to the UN. Not for money or anything, just "Hay, so you're the only guies in system with warships, you might want to sort this out. No need to thank me."

    It will heal a bit of the bad blood between us, which, given 'the gargantuan', probably isn't a bad thing.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:36 No.10997923
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    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:37 No.10997932
    Sabotage at about midpoint. If necessary, drop nuclear weaponry on it.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:37 No.10997943
    Lets bust their shit, steal all money they have and space them
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:37 No.10997944
    What happens when a fat person tries to crawl thorough a hole to small for them?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:39 No.10997962
    How about if the hole gets smaller midway through?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:39 No.10997965
    Aaah. I was wondering if, since it is a sci-fi portal, part of the ship'd go through, and the rest wouldn't. And if so, if we could weaponise that as well.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:39 No.10997968
    How is the situation on Ares?
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:40 No.10997986
    The Zorg are apparently in league with MNU, even if they're out of the arms race.

    They're getting 20% of MNU's income and their departments have apparently all turned to R&D and producing prototypes that are given to MNU for refining and for mass production.

    They are the fourth faction funding the Gargantua project. The UN is the third.

    They are currently developing something called the "Particle Beam".

    However, the Lone Gunmen can't decrypt it, so the details are unknown to you.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:41 No.10997993
    Already done in industrial applications. Currently researching how to weaponize it with Military Applications: Portal Edges.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:41 No.10997996
    Even money the particle beam is to be mounted on the front end of the Gargantua.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:42 No.10998015
    Many of the initial children born to the colonists have grown into fine men and women - and new colonists are arriving all of the time.

    As for the New People, they are currently quite complacent and lazy. They're happy having dominated the continent of Lacedaemon and for the time being, they're not even building ships to explore beyond the continent. Instead, they're focusing on a deeper understanding of their sciences, especially chemistry.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:42 No.10998017

    THAT is exactly why I proposed in another thread to form our own coalition, so that this kind of alliance doesn't just steamroll us.

    I wonder if they are making that huge fucking piece of shit to subdue martians and enforce their will?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:42 No.10998023
    Greta, new space weapons, and they are all aimed at us.

    Right, enough dithering, lets do that probe, continue our current research program until we're finished and then start megaproject.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:43 No.10998038
    I vote we take over Regent's little chop-shop and continue research for destructive umbra uses. Only instead of blowing up planets, it'll be for blowing up ships approximately the size of the Gargantua.

    Or, more accurately, exactly the size of the Gargantua.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:44 No.10998044
    Umm, why have we not stolen the particle beam files?

    Even if we can't decrypt them, as long as we can keep them out of Zorg/MNU/UN/WY's hands...
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:44 No.10998049
    Alright, real quick: Let's decide what to do with Regent.
    We have 4 votes for killing him outright.
    Anyone for turning him over to the UN, or recruiting him?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:44 No.10998051

    Use the systems in Regent's Pluto orbiting research lab as a buffer in hacking into Zorg's systems, trying to get more info on the particle beam.

    Hopefully if we get caught in the hacking attempt, it leads them to Regent's group as the fallguys.

    Since we succeeded so spectacularly in hacking Regent's systems, I assume we have a dedicated backdoor.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:44 No.10998062
    Teach then about how biology is just applied chemistry, and then watch them become master biologists. Well, they''d still fail at ecology but who cares about ecosystems when you can have portals and shit.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:45 No.10998074

    Just in case .... you know? Nothing harmful or anything...
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:46 No.10998106
    We don't profit from just turning up and killing him, that'll make us look bad on the news.

    If we turn him into the UN then we get the rep for nearly saving the planet, and on that note I'm saying we should leave him alone till he runs out of money, that way we'll look more awesome.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:47 No.10998107
    time skip?

    also, future priorities: split from UN.
    Eliminate UN
    Eliminate Zorg
    Eliminate MNU
    Eliminate Weyland-Yutani

    Or steal assets of each. Appear in United nations building and demand ransom of earth?

    many choices here.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:47 No.10998110
    They've been backed up in a thousand different places. Almost all research files are. You can't just snatch it away.

    However, you have the encrypted copy of research so far.

    And yes, everyone seems in favour having Regent ended and the UN knowing about these actions.

    Everyone agreed, or are some against this?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:48 No.10998145
    Before outright revealing his location, see if we can't frame him for actions of our own. As a fall guy for our next failed hacking attempt.

    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:49 No.10998148
    Let's end Regent. Let this be our final troll from us to him!
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:49 No.10998159
    NaH, lets do this >>10998038 instead!
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:49 No.10998162
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    +1 vote for throwing him to the UN.

    Make sure we get this to him, somehow, once he's in custody.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:50 No.10998173
    Give me your roll, then.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:50 No.10998180
    rolled 53 = 53

    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:50 No.10998183
    Dont kill him. Wait on that.
    Dont tell the UN either.
    Protect him from detection.

    And lets build some viruses to wipe their data out. Anything not in public Domain is considered to be eligible for destruction by our virus, unless the file in question is ours.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:52 No.10998222
    rolled 15 = 15

    rollan for hackan.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:52 No.10998223
    rolled 37 = 37

    Let's do it!
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:52 No.10998225
    Do it for Haglund.

    "Take him away boys."
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)19:52 No.10998230
    Let him keep his little thing going until we get something useful out of it. As soon as we do, kill him.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:53 No.10998236
    You are overestimating our capabilities by far. We are a research megacorp that has dabbled in weapons and military applications.

    This would be the equivalent of Chrysler suddenly deciding to go up against Lockheed, Pratt-Whitney, Boeing, and General Electric, at the same time seceding from the United States.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:53 No.10998240
    Bake him away, Toys.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:53 No.10998247
    Why should we do that though? What do we gain from not killing him and destroying his research data? I'm seeing no profits in this course of action.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:54 No.10998275
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    -The holographic image holds up its arm in salute and nods slowly-


    Regent has already killed a world I strongly suggest to my brother and sister board members of SLINT that we prevent the Umbral fall of Migard.

    May the Data Valkyries bring the smoldering rage of the UN's bureaucracy upon this foul offspring of Pentex.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:55 No.10998294
    Hacking complete.

    Apparently the primary goal of the Gargantua is to absolutely obliterate and crush the Martian rebellion either by intimidation or by nuclear destruction of key management areas on the surface of Mars, do as little damage as possible to the countless factories and terraforming plants on its surface.

    Even the particle beam is primarily for intimidation purposes - although yet again, no information on it there.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:56 No.10998312
    Give this to Martian leaders discretely. Gain exclusive contract rights for shipping them off planet.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:56 No.10998313
    It would occur over time. Succeed from UN. Then we eventually take down each megacorperation, one by one, or at least the ones that dont like us. It may be time for us to start funding our own puppet corporations....
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)19:56 No.10998316
    The UN is given detailed information regarding whereabouts and the actions of Regent's cell.

    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:57 No.10998321
    Oh shit, maybe we should withdraw our support for them.

    What the fuck is wrong with these people? Do they just meet up in a board room, get shitfaced, and take the course of action with the most explosions? Are we really THAT SIMILAR?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)19:58 No.10998343

    Should we release that info to martians? They are going to be a bit upset, saying it lightly.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 07/07/10(Wed)19:59 No.10998357
    Death Star much?

    Hmm, an Epsilon Eridani vessel could reach Tau Ceti right? If we accept the refugees there I suggest constructing orbital shipyards there now (we should do that anyway) and start sneak in legal clauses about armed UN ships not having access.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:00 No.10998366
    They'd deny it violently, but if we move now, and sow public doubt before the project is fhinished, then we could severly fuck them.

    We'd be mortal enemies from here one out though, but since we already hate MNU and Zorg it would just be another day at the office. Personally though, I'm saying we wait and see if we can find harder proof, something they can't go up against.

    You have to realize, this could ruin their public image, the UN especially.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:00 No.10998369
    Trying to create our own nation isn't as simple as you make it out to seem. Especially as we don't necessarily know the loyalties of all of our employees. And if we do secede, I foresee us (the Board) being assassinated by STFU Black Ops before anyone else getting to us.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:00 No.10998372
    Release data to general public after release to martian government. Aks for funding to prevent this, or for their help in shipping their people off planet. Specifically monitary help.

    Then keep our word, and take them to somewhere within 1 ly or 2 if we have that capability.

    Also, we should build our portal shield for mars. A major STFU to Earth.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:00 No.10998377
    Begin sending shitloads of resources to Tau Ceti. Begin immediate construction of orbiting defense satellites and warships.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:02 No.10998400
    If we wanted to get a substantial amount of those Martians out soon then I suggest we construct colony vessels in AC as well, and then ship them here. There's really no other way to finish in time.

    Plasma, what's the ETA on the gargantuan being fhinished?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:02 No.10998404
    Gah, part of me wants to say we get our VIKINGS IN SUITS and make an angry, impassioned speech to the UN about how they are being enormous douchebags and are betraying their roots. I mean, as that guy said earlier, the UN says that everyone has the right to self-determination.

    Another part just wants to wreck their shit.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:02 No.10998408
    If they're obstinate enough to fight for secession, they're going to be stubborn enough and stupid enough to actually continue to attempt fighting. Terrorist attacks on critical corporate assets, attempts to assassinate key UN officials...It just makes me want to kill them first.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:02 No.10998415
    Heck, why not anonymously leak the info to Earth too? UN might be colossal dicks but general population will not be like that.

    Of course, whatever we do MAKE SURE THEY CAN'T TRACE IT BACK TO US!
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:03 No.10998423
    If we leak what we've found out about the Gargantua, how about we conceal the fact that Weyland-Yutani is involved beyond just renting out their shipyard?

    Then, we quietly visit Weyland-Yutani and see if we can work out a repayment plan for that favor.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:03 No.10998425
    Hold on, hold on...

    If we're going to release this data, lets at least do it anonymously.

    But I still don't support this.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:04 No.10998444
    It's supposed to be finished by 2185...
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:04 No.10998445
    Well we're here for profits first, wrecking shit second.

    If only we could combine the two...
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:04 No.10998447
    Also, we've got a big incentive to weaponize our portal tech.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:04 No.10998451
    You dumb shit, there's nothing in the ranges that you specified. And our portal shielding technology can't be used for a planetary shield; it doesn't work that way! You dumb fuck.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:06 No.10998467
    Well, there's the open void of interstellar space.

    However, while the thought of taking their money and then spacing them all is tempting, the PR backlash would be nightmarish.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:08 No.10998500
    Alright, how about we build up a case first and release the info when they are halfway done. That way they all lose!
    If we release the info now then they have barely spend any money.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)20:08 No.10998501
    Year 2167:
    Crawler 9 is on its way.
    You have increased the funding your R&D department.
    You have increased the funding of your security department.
    Regent's space station has been dismantled and his cell taken into custody. His fate is unknown. You are thanked for your actions against him by the UN. They had been searching for the terrorist for a while since he quit.
    The Martian Seperatists have been informed and political tension is suddenly shooting up. Someone cracked and rumours are everywhere. Millions who were one proud individuals willing to become independent from the corporations and UN are suddenly desperately moving anywhere, everywhere, even back to Earth, just not Mars. Millions more are remaining on Mars defiantly, despite everything. Chaos is everywhere.
    Several thousand individuals, however, who do know about the information you gave in detail, wish to accept your offer.
    Approximately 8000 are offering a large payment $560b in order to be taken off of Mars. All they desire is freedom from the UN. They're willing to work for you, they just don't want anyone else infleuncing them. You seem decent enough for handing over this information after all.

    Balance: $241b
    Income: $241b
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)20:09 No.10998516
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    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:09 No.10998517
    Oh it would work, it's only a smart material which forms a portal at the point of impact and then lets the projectile fly off somewhere else.

    You know what else would work though, 16 mile of solid diamond armour around Mars. The best part? The diamond armour would be cheaper, since portal armour costs 100 bil PER SHIP. An entire planets worth, all else aside, would be more money that exists.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:10 No.10998532
    rolled 39 = 39

    Build ships and haul people I guess

    Also. Hackan WY again (money for cover up, etc)
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:10 No.10998535
    What have we been using our AI for again? Have we considered allocating some of them to enhance R&D?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:11 No.10998543
    Send the 8000 to our Tau Ceti site.
    Our Alpha Centuari holdings are under too much scrutiny right now; better to use our Tau Ceti system as a jump-off point for further expansion.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:11 No.10998549
    I hope we deposited that information anonymously at lest.

    Anyway, I assume our current colony ships will be enough to get them to AC or TC, so let's just say we're sticking with our current plans regardless. Because we're stubborn, they'll buy that.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:12 No.10998560
    rolled 30 = 30

    Ah man, these guys have good protection.

    Hack MNU for stealing tech
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:12 No.10998564
    Wait, where did our income go, weren't we making money before?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:12 No.10998565
    Take them to Tau Ceti, yeah.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:12 No.10998569
    Requesting update and system information from our crawlers.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)20:13 No.10998573
    You didn't deposit it. Someone else did. The individual you told squealed and told someone who told someone who told EVERYONE.
    Give me your roll.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:14 No.10998591
    Do our Tau Ceti holding have any defences?
    I think we have any warships there, right?

    Lets build send modular freighters there which will become warships after few LY travel
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:14 No.10998599
    I agree with the AC part, but I'm worried about TC being attacked by MNU, since they're only 5.5 light years apart.

    If we put them there, we'll need to ramp up security pretty quickly.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:14 No.10998600
    rolled 13 = 13

    rolling for hack
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:15 No.10998607
    rolled 93 = 93

    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:15 No.10998610
    FUCK MY SHIT! Someone else roll! quickly! Otherwise we might have to spend a lot on cover up!
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:15 No.10998611
    If we haven't done it yet, start building AI Triads + Portal Construction Facilities in our holdings at Alpha Centauri and Tau Ceti.

    Also, start working on the avatar project modifications that I mentioned. Preferably, we want to be able to make it work with already-living humans (probably via an implant of some sort) as well as with synthlife we design.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:16 No.10998613
    Is there any way for us to market AI? Not the good ones of course but just semi-sentient programs or what not. Also, I wonder if there's a way for us to sell our Energy Portals to Mars?
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:17 No.10998635
    Does MNU have FTL tech, or anything that might lead to it in the next few decades? If not, we've got at least five years of warning about any assault they launch.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:17 No.10998636
    'Fraid we can't retrofit them mid transit, need a construction yard for that.

    We don't have any in TC, so we will need a freighter to bring construction and orbital portal facilities to set those up.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:17 No.10998642
    How about if we construct an AI whose sole purpose is to fuck out enemy's computer systems up? Release it into their systems and it causes havok. An advanced computer virus.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:17 No.10998643
    Thats why we told you to do it anonymously!
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:18 No.10998657
    What's our current research look like?
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:19 No.10998670
    Does the term "blowback" mean anything to you?

    Also, we're only about 30 posts from autosage.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:19 No.10998671
    >They're willing to work for you

    Gentlemen, I bring you the future colonists of our Aresian empire. Basically use these people as the first wave of colonists to Ares. We provide them all the materials they need to create their own cities. Essentially we ship masses of people to Ares and provide for them a way to create a new life and in return all we ask is that they are supportive of us.

    Once people see that the Ares colonies are flourishing, more people will be willing to take up the contract of immigrating to our beloved planet.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:19 No.10998678
    That assumes that they haven't already sent a warship.

    But yes, we need to build construction yards and defense ships in Tau Ceti. Activate all remaining Earth Construction Yards. They are to construct colony ships (for the Mars colonists) and Heavy Freighters to send factory and space station parts to Tau Ceti.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:20 No.10998689
    We can't be having the Ariesians becoming complacent, we've already invested in their success with promising results. Perhaps we should initiate a challenge/reward system? Like we give them an advanced piece of technology and reward them when they can figure out how it works and adapt it?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:20 No.10998700
    The reward is another piece of technology.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:21 No.10998716
    Fucking Hell No!
    Ares is in Alpha Centuari, spitting distance of UN warships equipped with Pandorium drives! There's already a sizable megacorporate presence from our competitors, and it's easy enough for the UN to peek in and take a look! Besides, Ares already has a native population, and the last thing we want is friction between the colonists and the natives.
    So fuck no, not Alpha Centuari, not Ares.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:22 No.10998719
    Not that we know of, Pentex is the only other corp which 'could' develop FTL, thanks to the umbra.

    Our Solar Arrays provide energy through out the system.

    AIs cost billions to make, what are we supposed to do with all of them? I guess they could help with research, or management, but there's no need to produce them indiscriminately.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:22 No.10998724
    Except Ares already has sentient inhabitants, who I personally value a lot more than a bunch of rich humans.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:22 No.10998739
    Didn't we create a form of hybrid between our two species so we can communicate? Why can't we hire people to directly teach them instead of giving them stuff and hoping they figure it out.

    We can jumpstart their technological progress if we directly teach them how things work and take a much stronger active role in progressing their species.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:23 No.10998750
    Is there any way to determine how far along other corporations have gone with regards to AI?
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)20:23 No.10998760
    No defenses. No factories. Tau Ceti is a bare bones colony.
    You haven't revealed these advanced AI yet. They haven't been developed so if you do show them off, they'll be something completely new.
    It's a force hack, where it's quite blatant and obvious and you have to pay a lot of people to make sure that the wrong ears don't hear about it...
    ... But you get results.
    They have approximately 28,000 people living beyond the solar system in mining colonies and space stations.
    They've apparently discovered 3 sorts of unobtainium that rather than marketing, they're using in their own equipment and purposes.
    They're very, very self-sufficient and they haven't made a deal with anyone else until the Death of Pandora in 2164.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:24 No.10998768
    Nigga please, we would try to integrate the Aresians into society to be our equals, not enslave them.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:24 No.10998775
    Can we hack Pentex and see if they have made any developments in that regard?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:25 No.10998778
    I agree with this, but TC is right within tange of Epsilon Eridani and its MNU fleet.

    If we go there, we better expect a battle.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:26 No.10998797
    We're putting at least one AI triad on research. The others are pretty much being built for redundancy purposes; if something goes badly wrong with our operations on Earth, we'll have a secondary corporate HQ ready to go.

    We're also assigning them to whatever other tasks need doing, of course.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:26 No.10998804
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    While the Aresian's are currently lazy and inward focused all it takes is one charismatic leader to propel them into global expansion.

    Perhaps hybrid colonists aiding our loyal Aresian's in gaining territory on the planet? Could build loyalty and a sense of identity.

    Also possible backlash by colonists unfamiliar with our carbon-based life form hybrid body tech.

    We should screen or gradually acclimate the incoming colonists to see if this will be a problem.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:26 No.10998810

    lets take their expertise and adapt self-sufficiency ourself. We were aiming for that but its better just to take what works rather than using trial and error
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:27 No.10998819
    We should make a dedicated hacking AI.

    Plasma, if we put shitloads of money and research into hacking, including having our AIs help, could we get bonuses to our hacking rolls? Like, 1d100 + 20 or something?
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:28 No.10998829
    Ares is fucked. Instead we will just uplift them from the planet. Once they are advanced enough by our standards then we will directly integrate them into our operations, yet we won't turn Ares into our homeworld, just a base of operations for the system.

    We left Earth, they can leave Ares.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:29 No.10998856
    And we'll focus on building up Tau Ceti as our new Homeworld.

    POINT: Rename our Tau Ceti planet Valhalla; internally at least.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:29 No.10998857
    If it weren't for this Mars shit I'd be pretty inclined to trust them, but as it is, they look like they're up to something.

    OK then. So do we want to start building freighters for TC or not? Cos the sooner we start the sooner we'll finish, and time is of the essence here.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:29 No.10998861
    Part of it is that we want the Mars colonists far enough away that the UN no longer considers them a threat and it's too expensive to beat them up.
    If the colonists are sent to Alpha Centuari, then W-Y already has a sizable presence there, along with Morgan Industries, and the UN might be tempted to pay either of those two to mess with the remaining Mars colonists.
    Morgan Industries might be our ally now, but it's only because we own a share of their stock, and we saved Morgan. And Morgan, after all, is a supreme businessman.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)20:31 No.10998897
    Actually, you already have espionage AI. I'm stupid for not counting the bonuses. Sorry.

    Creating more hybrids to try and educate the Aresians.

    Sadly, their culture is quite Taoist and refuses to advance. They categorize and do everything in their power to understand how the universe functions and how technology works - but they never truly put their knowledge into practice.

    They currently possess everything they need to make their society go nuclear, yet they still live in the dark ages - and quite happily, as well.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:32 No.10998908
    We've already got most of our Earth Yards working on making TC colony ships. Let's make some more yards, and the remaining Yards will produce the Heavy Freighters and additional colony ships we need.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:33 No.10998919
    Here's what we market: Eclipse Phase-style muses. We'll make a killing.

    We need to get to work on improving TC, then.

    If we can figure out some way to do it with official approval, that would be even better. Get the UN behind our Tau Ceti operation and hamstring MNU's freedom to move against it.

    Also, let's get some of our legal department working on an outer space version of the Washington Treaty. Agreeing to vastly restrict our warship tonnage won't hurt us much, given that once we weaponize portals every single one of our ships can potentially kill an opponent, and the benefit of putting a hard limit on how many warships MNU can build and how many they can have away from Sol should be obvious.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:33 No.10998930
    ...All this hacking we've been doing makes me curious, why haven't we been hacked? I mean the UN seems to be afraid of us due to our thinking with portals and we have a whole bunch of stuff we don't want people finding out (haven't we been keeping the Aresians under our hat as well as AI and immortality/transhumanism?)
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:34 No.10998934
    For portal weaponry:

    Could we develop it so that it "grabs" a section of the target and then 'ports it away? Like an Eldar D-cannon?
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:34 No.10998939
    Put one of our AIs and/or a sociologist team towards figuring out a way to make them advance that's supported by their existing cultural framework.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)20:34 No.10998946
    You have been hacked, several times.

    You've been the subject of hacking attempts far, far more often.

    That security does come in handy, you know.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:35 No.10998954
    >Here's what we market: Eclipse Phase-style muses. We'll make a killing.

    I am not sure what that is but if it makes us lodsamoney then I am all for it.

    Also, lets hack Pentex to see if they have any developments on FTL and steal any tech on Umbra.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:35 No.10998955
    If we have an AI dedicated to espionage, it's probably also handling counterespionage for us. Anybody without an AI of their own is going to be at an incredible disadvantage if they try to hack us.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:35 No.10998960
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    We really need to find a way to solidify our "friendship" with Morgan. Hell, there is also the new Chrysalis Corporation from last game. Attempt to open up negotiations with them to help them grow.

    Because really... having Nyarlahotep on our side (or at least the closest thing to "our side") will be a damn good thing. If we don't and he becomes an enemy then oh boy we are fucked.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)20:37 No.10998977

    Advancing to Year 2168 with new suggestions. Will post in new thread.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:37 No.10998978
    So lets NEVER release our AIs before they develop their own.

    Plasma please give list of our AI and their tasks.

    Also are they showing any signs of contempt?
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:38 No.10998995
    A muse is a semisentient AI that functions as a personal organizer/secretary/aide. As you use it, it learns your preferences, and becomes increasingly capable of bringing things to your attention based on your preferences/needs.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:38 No.10998999
    ...Are there any groups that don't share that view? There is nothing more distasteful than willful ignorance, and I'm beginning to suspect our faith in them was... misplaced.
    Also, have we put any money into detecting extraterrestrial communications? It would be nice to have some genuine allies that we form a mutual relationship with (and I'm 90% sure that they won't have portal technology, so we'll be able to at minimum moderately impress them)
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:38 No.10999001
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:41 No.10999044

    As >>10998804 said, a charismatic and focused leader may be able to change them. Perhaps we should change focus from instead of trying to artificially advance their technology to attempting to change their culture to better fit our needs.

    Cultural shift, nigga. Show them their potential. Social engineering isn't that difficult.

    If not then we could just try to create our own sub-faction and then help them take over.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:41 No.10999047
    rolled 33 = 33

    lets hack Pentex!
    (what are our bonuses anyway?)
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:43 No.10999079
    Fucking.... science hippies! Think they can just lounge around discovering the secrets of the universe? The bastards.

    All right then, you mentioned in the dossier that they have these intelligence tests which people have to take and pass in order to become rulers, and that they have a lot of corruption in these tests for political reasons. Well, why don't we point this out to them, and then propose our new, better self regulating electronic system which can't be hacked or tampered with.

    Then when their leadership begins to alter more and more, we'll start to show them about some of the more profound secrets of the universe, really theoretical things that require huge industrial undertakings in order to complete, like the LHC, and begin to encourage and support those scientists who are more interested in answer deeper scientific question, and understand that these projects require massive amounts of work and collaborations.

    It won't make them much more productive, but a few huge projects like this, though they;ll consume time, will alter their perceptions of what they'll have to do in order to learn more about there world.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:44 No.10999098
    I like this.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:44 No.10999105
    Oh right. Lets do it! EVERYONE would want one! Its like how mobile phones are popular today.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:45 No.10999117
    If we were to release a muse/ai publicly, we would want it to be extremely, EXTREMELY low scale, making it harder for other corps to try and reverse engineer and advance it.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:46 No.10999142
    I mean, you can sit around in your lad all day mixing chemicals, but you're not going to find exotic matter until you get up off your ass an build a giant mile long particle smasher out of superconducting electro magnets.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:47 No.10999149
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    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:48 No.10999160
    >I mean, you can sit around in your lad
    And what I meant to say was lab, sitting inside your son will lad will yield much, much less favourable results.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:49 No.10999168
    Think of a muse as the ultimate combination of every single personal communications and organization device ever, with a semisentient AI giving it the ability to act without direct orders from the user. It's a personal assistant, only better and more affordable.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:50 No.10999185
    >More affordable.

    Go back to communist Kuba we're in this for the profits. We'll make the i-phones pricing look reasonable.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:50 No.10999187
    In other words, give them theories that are impossible for them to experimentally confirm unless they boost their technological level. I like this idea.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:52 No.10999214
    By "more affordable" I meant "more affordable than having a living, breathing personal assistant".
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:54 No.10999239
    Why should it be cheaper if it is so much better?
    (Special addons, including "Japanese 18" variants sold separately.)
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:56 No.10999273
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    -the holograph's resolution seems unable to convey the shedding of natural eye lubricant in a machismo manner, but you get the gist of it-

    And incredible idea! Stoking the fires of curiosity, beneath the heels of our Aresian allies.

    This could work if we give them proper safety supervision.


    By Hel, even the canny Mantis finds this to be an idea of worthy merit.

    I humbly submit to the SLINT board that we follow this course of action.
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)20:58 No.10999300
    Sell the muses, but with addon functionality that can only be bought from our stores. Like iTunes, but with better apps.

    And if they try to hack it, the AI auto-destructs.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)20:58 No.10999301
    Because we want to make sure that it sells. If it costs more than hiring a living person to do the job, then you're doing it wrong.

    The goal is to spread our name far and wide as the corporation you come to if you want the future, and in particular a future without atrocity. The bigger the install-base we get, the better the results.

    For the super-expensive option, we package the muse into a robot body, tailored to the user's tastes. We can call that variant the persocom.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 07/07/10(Wed)21:01 No.10999346
    New thread: >>10999342
    >> Anonymous 07/07/10(Wed)21:03 No.10999368
    Well these big projects take more time to organise than they do to build, it won't happen over night, but we might not even have to attempt the previously stated method of political tinkering though those intelligence tests.

    You make a good point about safety though, we don't want them producing any black holes by accident after all.
    >> Kichigai Mantis 07/07/10(Wed)21:03 No.10999372
    Just make it so that the only way to reprogram the muse is with sensory input. And the only thing that gives you direct access to the source code, as opposed to the memory banks, is a specific sequence of sensory inputs that can only be performed by a Sleipnir tech.

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